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Rhino April 10th, 2009, 08:00 AM BC provincial election
who are you voting for?
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B.C. conservative's
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B.C. Liberal Party
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the NDP party
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The Green party
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Communist Party of British Columbia
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Now I have never really done a poll before so I hope this is okay.. :)
Yellow Fever April 10th, 2009, 08:08 AM GO GORD GO!
Carol James is cute, but she is not the leader material.
deasine April 10th, 2009, 08:28 AM Carol James is cute, but she is not the leader material.
*Vomits*
I didn't know we have a BC Conservatives... BC Liberals themselves aren't technically "Liberals" because they are right from centre in the political spectrum.
Yellow Fever April 10th, 2009, 08:37 AM I didn't know we have a BC Conservatives...
Are you serious?
deasine April 10th, 2009, 08:38 AM Are you serious?
Great now I feel naive =P
Yellow Fever April 10th, 2009, 08:40 AM Oh, my god! :lol:
ssiguy2 April 10th, 2009, 08:40 AM I'm not particularily enthrawled with James. She seems OK but she just sorta non-descript.
Gordo?........despite having enjoyed a strong economy BC has the highest rate of child poverty in Canada. Infact BC was the ONLY province in Canada between 2002-2008 where the rate of child poverty increased. We have the highest level of disparity in incomes in the country. Our minimum wage which was the highest is now 2nd lowest and by far the least purchasing power of all rates in their respective provinces. The sleazy manuever aroung BC Rail is in a league of it's own. They also GAVE our crown land over to the forestry companies and then they turned around and closed the mills but kept the land.
I've never liked Gordo and funny thing is that eventhough the Liberals won the last election BCers have never warmed to the guy. His arrogance and complete disregard for the poor of this province is quite offensive. My M&D have never voted NDP federally or provincially in any of the two provinces they have lived in {BC & Ont} but both say they will hold their respective noses and vote NDP this time around.
BC has prospered, although much of that was due to the booming Chinese/Indian economies and high commodity prices, but the number of BCers who are relativley better off is shockingly low. The average BCer is not better off and that's , when it comes right down to it, is what really matters.
Huhu April 10th, 2009, 09:31 AM Great now I feel naive =P
Lol don't feel bad, the "BC Conservatives" haven't held power in living memory I think. Federal Liberals and Conservatives are basically both part of the mainstream "BC Liberals" while the "BC Conservatives" are a fringe party, like the former "BC Reform Party" that nearly won some seats around Glen Clark's time but then the party collapsed for internal reasons. There isn't a middle ground in BC at the moment, just right and left.
Rhino April 10th, 2009, 09:53 AM Can you imagine how bad off we'd be if the NDP won an election in todays buisness world?
dleung April 10th, 2009, 10:19 PM We have the highest level of disparity in incomes in the country.
Build waterfront social housing and they will come, from all over the country and beyond. Our winters aren't harsh enough to kill off the ones who miss the gravy train. Mind you this is also a port city and we sort of have a drug culture... that involves those who really don't have the money to spend on it.
The fact that there's in incredibly huge amount of well off people here to amplify this wealth disparity isn't exactly a bad thing.
I see Ravman hasn't voted yet =) Wonder if the NDP tally will surpass 2?
Yellow Fever April 10th, 2009, 11:08 PM I see Ravman hasn't voted yet =) Wonder if the NDP tally will surpass 2?
He hasn't posted anything here for a long time, so I don't think he'd ever be back and we can just simply write him off the vote. :D
LONG LIVE THE LIBERALS!
Yellow Fever September 4th, 2009, 08:24 AM BC residents believe Liberals intentionally misled voters, poll finds
Opposition leader Carole James says people betrayed by a government not ‘up front’ with them.
VICTORIA — A new Ipsos Reid poll that shows that more than 70 per cent of British Columbians believe they were “intentionally misled” during the election could signal Premier Gordon Campbell and his B.C. Liberals will suffer long-lasting effects on their credibility, Ipsos Reid vice-president Kyle Braid said Thursday.
The poll released Thursday found that 72 per cent of people believe the Liberals willfully deceived the electorate.
Only 10 per cent of people contacted for the poll said they believe Campbell’s story that he and his government only learned the gravity of B.C.’s fiscal crisis once the election was over.
Braid said that because the poll question speaks to core values like credibility and integrity, the strong message could endure well beyond the usual outrage that arises from single policies or decisions.
“There’s a potential that the perception they [the public] have been misled has a resonance that could last an awful lot longer over time,” said Braid.
“As governments get into a third mandate, and out to that 10-year point, accusations of complacency and arrogance can begin to take hold. Accusations like this just feed into that.”
Braid pointed to the New Democratic Party’s so-called fudge-it budget in the ’90s, when the government of the day was found to have misled voters about budget finances.
“Just before that budget came out [the NDP] were at 42 per cent in the polls,” he said.
“They quickly slid down into the 20s and never came back to 40 for eight years,” he added.
“So the public can remember these things.”
On Thursday, Finance Minister Colin Hansen again insisted that both he and Campbell firmly believed throughout the spring campaign they could hold to their repeated promise of a $495 million deficit for the current year.
That promise officially imploded on Tuesday as Hansen tabled a $2.8 billion deficit -- almost six times higher than what he had promised during the election.
“What we’re seeing is not unique to British Columbia,” Hansen said Thursday, explaining the factors that increased the deficit could not have been foreseen.
“We’ve gone through unprecedented downturns. The recession turned out to be much deeper than anybody was forecasting at the time,” he said.
The majority of people in the poll clearly disagreed, as 58 per cent blamed the ballooning deficit on “mismanagement by the provincial government.”
By contrast, 35 per cent of people attributed the $2.8 billion deficit to external events “beyond the control of the provincial government.”
In what is perhaps a silver lining in the dark cloud currently hanging over the Liberals, only 29 per cent of people feel the situation would have been better if British Columbians had elected NDP leader Carole James on May 12.
Thirty-eight per cent said they think James would have made the situation worse.
On Thursday, James said that result confirms her belief that she and her party have work to do to build their credibility among the electorate.
“I said that election night, that we didn’t do a good enough job of putting our positive vision out,” she said.
“To me that reinforces the work I’ve said we have to do,” she added.
At the same time, James said the poll confirms just how angry and discouraged people feel about the recent election.
“This is an anger at being betrayed by a government that wasn’t up front with them,” said James.
“This government didn’t tell the truth. No one believes them. This poll confirms that,” she added, saying she thinks the government has clearly taken a body blow to its credibility.
“I don’t think this kind of anger and this kind of betrayal goes away.”
The poll also found that 68 per cent of people disapprove of Tuesday’s budget, and that 82 per cent believe it will hurt them and their family.
Conducted online among 800 British Columbians, the poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points, 19 times out of 20.
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DrT September 4th, 2009, 03:39 PM Build waterfront social housing and they will come, from all over the country and beyond. Our winters aren't harsh enough to kill off the ones who miss the gravy train. Mind you this is also a port city and we sort of have a drug culture... that involves those who really don't have the money to spend on it.
The fact that there's in incredibly huge amount of well off people here to amplify this wealth disparity isn't exactly a bad thing.
Yeah, its a few people paying most of the taxes and dragging along all of the "poor". They should be thankful to the "rich".
This is old data, but you get the idea:
From McLeans magazine, 2007
Add it all up, and the wealthy in Canada are carrying a disproportionate chunk of the tax bill. According to StatsCan, in 2002 the top 10 per cent of taxpayers paid 52.6 per cent of all federal taxes, up from 46 per cent in 1990, making them the only group whose share of taxes exceed their share of income. At the same time, the rest of Canadians have seen their collective tax bill shrink.
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