Nanning is located in the southern part of Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region, 160 km from the border with Vietnam. It has an area of 22,293 square kilometers.
The city is located on the north bank of the Yong River, the chief southern tributary of the Xi River, and lies some 30 km below the confluence of the Yu and the Zuo rivers. The Yong River (which later becomes the Yu River) affords a good route to Guangzhou and is navigable by shallow-draft junks and motor launches, even though it is obstructed by rapids and sandbanks.
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and you'll get amazed to know it has LESS THAN 1 million people:D

A chinese city with a population of less than one million!!!!!! :eek2:





















:D

Chinese cities' destiny is to become like Brazilian cities are nowadays: concrete jungles. You are in such a BIG construction development that there's no way you cities not to become real concrete jungles like Sao Paulo!

And I'm very very very surprised to know this city has less than 1 million :eek:

i like the way they've reserved some space for open parks and grass, like Singapore... China will definitely become the USA of the future...

It is booming.:)

The city is very beautiful !!

are you sure the city has less than 1m people?
i just can't believe it. photos are amazing.

man im sorry but i think thats one ugly place there are alot of buildings but theyre all ugly... i am no into that double spire thing but when it's ugly to boot it is even worse.. the buildings have no character... .. horrible << just my opinion though.....

Very nice skyline thanks for posting it neon

wow.:guns1:
Very impressive.
Sure, Chinese cities are becoming more modernize than any other cities in the world.
Go China! be the super power of the world.:okay:

Ive never even heard of them places. It dont look like a very preety city to me. And are you sure its less than 1 Million? China is one of the most densely populated countries in the world.

Landong looks like very clean city...China is going to be a super rich country and will surpass America...go go go China!!!

The skyline in the 1st pic is impressive! I am sure it is very colourful at night :angel1:

@Raff.

you are rite

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@Caddie

accoring to 2000 census,it has 0.9 million people

i think it at least has 1.3m now

unbelievable :applause:

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Nice city! Fine quality photos! Thanks!

Originally posted by neon

@Raff.

you are rite

http://202.103.252.161/attachment.php?postid=253626Neong...mind updating the link? Im dying to see what it looks like! :D

nanning has the population of 1.3 million

Wow, this is beautiful!
On the contrary to nygirl, I am getting sick of glass towers :)
I think Russia is mimicking China, we just started developing the same style, but it looks like it has been adapted by China a long time ago! That's one of the many reasons why I love China :D

The night shots are amazing!! :eek:!

Is it Nanchang or Nanning?

muchbetter, that night pic looks like somewhere in Japan. Chinese cities don't have that kind of lighting, and the driving direction on the roads are reversed.

Superchan7, really? someone posted it in xinhua forum said Nanning, by the way, Nanning is located in Guangxi. OK, Huaiwei pls gives me a hand to delete the night picture of Nanning.

Is it Nanchang or Nanning?
Whoops...corrected! :D

muchbetter, feel free to just edit your post or delete it. You are able to do it too! :D

Huaiwei, Sorry, I just realized that I can delete it by myself .OK, It is done!

Huaiwei, Sorry, I just realized that I can delete it by myself .OK, It is done!
You are most welcome! Feel free to help keep these city threads alive, as you might have noticed those with the chinese names in the titles like this one. :D

Thank you for the great pictures!

It's always refreshing to see how well-developed the lesser-known Chinese cities really are. :)

Great pics. :)

Nanning, the capital of Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region, is the political, economic, cultural, financial, and information center of the Region. It is a city full of cultural distinctiveness, economic vitality, and an expanding openness to and involvement with the global community. As evidence of Nanning’s development, we are proud to say that we have received many awards, including membership in “Top 50 Comprehensive Power Cities in China” and “Top Tourist Cities in China”, in addition to being designated as a “China Hygiene Model City” and the “Dubai International Award for the Best Practices to Improve Living Conditions”.

In particular, Nanning is famous the world over for its traditional and contemporary folks songs. The Annual Nanning International Folk Songs Festival in fall attracts wide-spread attention by combining the talents of musical headliners from the across the globe with a special blend of centuries-old folk song traditions, many “undiscovered” tourist attractions, and an ever-expanding economic trade.

Beginning in 2004, Nanning will host the annual China-ASEAN Expo sponsored by China and the ten ASEAN member states, at which China and ten of its Southeast Asian neighbors will offer a rich mixture of business opportunities, cultural experiences, and tourism attractions.

Nanning’s favorable location makes it well-suited to be an important center for travel. To the north is Guilin, where a unique combination of clear water and green hills makes the area a world-famous scenic spot. To the south are the Silver and Golden Beaches of the Beibu Gulf. On the west, one can visit the mysterious Haushan Cliff paintings and the Detian Cross-border Waterfall, the second largest transnational waterfall in the world. On the east, the Guiping West Mountains harbor some of the oldest Buddhist institutions and artifacts in all of South China. Within the city there are ten scenic spots such as Yangmei Ancient Town, Green Mountain Tower, and colorful ethnic customs.

Here you will find a favorable environment and a sincere welcome as a visitor or as an investor. As a forever-honored guest, you are invited to share with us the opportunities and joy of this unique city’s continuing development.

In short, your visit to Nanning will give you ample an opportunity to explore colorful customs, interesting sights, and a range of business opportunities.

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Thank you for reply these pics.
I have some NanNing-road pics.I wish some road pics by you.... :wink2:

wow. very beautiful and modern city!

beautiful looking city with impressive skyline!

what is the population?

Nanning is near to Vietnam
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I've been to Pingxiang last year...it was the first time i entered another country by foot :) ....do people speak Cantonese there,in Nanning?

Nanning is near to Vietnam
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I've been to Pingxiang last year...it was the first time i entered another country by foot :) ....do people speak Cantonese there,in Nanning?

AFAIK people in nanning speak Guangdonghua (Cantonese) with a slightly different accent. A few months ago, I met a girl in shanghai who comes from nanning and we chatted in Guangdonghua without any problems.

Do you speak Guangdonghua? :)

No,only XicongYue :D but i want to learn some in the future.

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Nanning City Life:
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我朋友说南宁是一个十分有礼貌的城市，那里的公交车上做文明
一听这个我就想去看看
因为我还不知道那个城市的公交文明好些

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As I known,Nanning has nearlly 1 200 000 populations and the metropolitan area has more than 6 300 000 pops!

I will be moving to Nanning to teach English on February 1st or 2nd!!! I'm pretty excited, it looks like a pleasant city with clean air. I like the modern look that it has, I heard they are trying to make the riverfront area a bit nicer as well, it would be excellent to see long bike paths along the river that go on for kilometers, I hope that something like that has been implemented. Is anyone on this forum from Nanning?

wow, welcome to Nanning. Hope you enjoy your stay and post some Nanning pictures :)

Nanning old city on Chinese New Year

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They must of got that Cardanro name from Giordano. LOL! Anyways the development around China is simply amazing.

I will be moving to Nanning to teach English on February 1st or 2nd!!! I'm pretty excited, it looks like a pleasant city with clean air. I like the modern look that it has, I heard they are trying to make the riverfront area a bit nicer as well, it would be excellent to see long bike paths along the river that go on for kilometers, I hope that something like that has been implemented. Is anyone on this forum from Nanning?

as far as i know,the Nanning population have already reached 150 million.

Chinese cities' destiny is to become like Brazilian cities are nowadays: concrete jungles. You are in such a BIG construction development that there's no way you cities not to become real concrete jungles like Sao Paulo!

And I'm very very very surprised to know this city has less than 1 million :eek:

Chinese cities are far different from Brazilian cities! Every Chinese city has broad way and broad garden and square for greens of all which makes city show a broad viewing.

Interesting hotel on the top of the mountain, Nanning Mt Daming

Look at the "rocks" on the top

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Chinese cities are far different from Brazilian cities! Every Chinese city has broad way and broad garden and square for greens of all which makes city show a broad viewing.

Apart from that, chinese cities has define CBD where the skyscrapers are much taller, and the building will get shorter and shorter towards the outskirts, but Brazilian cities are different, they have a zone shape like square that has tons of flats with the same height and than the area next to it are occupied by houses thats are tiny and short, and than another square of flats, so you cant tell where is the surburb and where is the city center, and its CBD is not defined as well.

The chinese city structure are the same with others such as the european or USA, but more apartments block replace more surburban housing, but in the outskirt of the cities, the area are also occupied by houses.

Interesting hotel on the top of the mountain, Nanning Mt Daming

Look at the "rocks" on the top

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Holly sh$t, I dont think u can find this kind of hotel any where else,amazing

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I do actually quite like the regenerated city centre of Nanning. I never thought I'd say any good things about big shopping centres let alone American monsters like Wal-Mart, but what Nanning's got is not bad at all. It sits in a nice pedestrianised area and there are shop fronts opening onto the street/square. Come and take a lesson Westfield!!

I do actually quite like the regenerated city centre of Nanning. I never thought I'd say any good things about big shopping centres let alone American monsters like Wal-Mart, but what Nanning's got is not bad at all. It sits in a nice pedestrianised area and there are shop fronts opening onto the street/square. Come and take a lesson Westfield!!

Great!! lets waste even MORE space!!!

^^ wtf ?? this is like saying apartments are wasting more spaces than a house....would you rather have each one of those shop owners open a individual shop stores?

^^ wtf ?? this is like saying apartments are wasting more spaces than a house....would you rather have each one of those shop owners open a individual shop stores?

No i'm saying building giant shopping centers are a waste of space, trust me i went to nanning, and the malls were very deserted. In fact the more dirty and poorer looking shopping districts were way more popular with the youth. And what are you talking about??? i've said in the past that i was for apartments in cities.

^^ well if what you said is true then they should've gone out of business and closed down by now or in the future. :P

^^ well if what you said is true then they should've gone out of business and closed down by now or in the future. :P

http://tradermike.net/2009/08/china_builds_the_worlds_largest_shopping_mall_which_is_deserted

^^ that's what happen when the mall is constructed far away from city core lol

The problem is that the geniuses who developed the mall built it in the middle of nowhere. There are no freeways nearby, nor is there an airport.

^^ that's what happen when the mall is constructed far away from city core lol

Yeah and???

I mean most of those huge shopping centers were built recently, But building even more of them is a waste of space. I don't know when's the last time you went to china, But shopping streets were more lively then huge shopping centers. And more space efficient too. I really don't understand the obession with "The bigger the better"

Great!! lets waste even MORE space!!!

I wouldn't be totally against shopping centres. Shopping centres and traditional high streets complement each other, and in big cities you can't do without either. As China gets richer the shopping centres definitely will not be deserted.

I was merely saying, that for shoppinc centres, those in Nanning were well designed - being part of a pedestrianised district and having external shop fronts.

I wouldn't be totally against shopping centres. Shopping centres and traditional high streets complement each other, and in big cities you can't do without either. As China gets richer the shopping centres definitely will not be deserted.

I was merely saying, that for shoppinc centres, those in Nanning were well designed - being part of a pedestrianised district and having external shop fronts.

What i'm worried about is the waste of space from building these huge shopping malls, china being very very populated shouldn't let so much space wasted that could've been used more properly. In every chinese city they have these huge shopping malls, i went to some of them and most of them are deserted. Now I'd rather have more nanjing streets then giant malls, In a huge shopping center you'll help out a brand while in shopping districts you'll be more likely to find some income for a mom and pop. Also.... http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7885/s23231213123123123123da.jpg

^^ But you have to realize that Chinese cities have the luxury to have these large public spaces (tons of squares and uber-wide avenues) because much of the residential developments are in, relatively dense neighborhoods of high-rise or mid-rise complexes or dense-versions of suburban gated-communities.

Chinese cities are overbuilt, yes. But they, generally, occupy a fairly small footprint as compared to Western cities that have barely half their population.

What I'm saying is that, although Chinese cities aren't necessarily as well-planned as say Hong Kong, Singapore, or Tokyo; they certainly are far more efficiently master-planned than those cities found in America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and even Western Europe.

Here is a same-scale comparison between two of the "sprawliest" urban areas in either country:

This is Kansas City, Missouri [population of urban area: roughly 2,000,000]
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Kansas+City&sll=37.09024,-112.5&sspn=48.909425,112.5&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Kansas+City,+Jackson,+Missouri&t=k&ll=39.102091,-94.601898&spn=0.090452,0.219727&z=13

This is Beijing, China (the foremost example of a car-dependent Chinese city) [population of urban area: roughly 13,000,000]
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Beijing&sll=35.835628,-90.241699&sspn=12.599522,28.125&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Beijing,+China&ll=39.913423,116.385899&spn=0.09322,0.219727&t=k&z=13

Clearly, Chinese cities are far more compact, with important nodal infrastructures anchored by large rail termini. Moreover, many Chinese cities are building tons of public mass-transit systems, which would lead to a far more permeable sense of mobility for its residents.

^^ But you have to realize that Chinese cities have the luxury to have these large public spaces (tons of squares and uber-wide avenues) because much of the residential developments are in, relatively dense neighborhoods of high-rise or mid-rise complexes or dense-versions of suburban gated-communities.

Chinese cities are overbuilt, yes. But they, generally, occupy a fairly small footprint as compared to Western cities that have barely half their population.

What I'm saying is that, although Chinese cities aren't necessarily as well-planned as say Hong Kong, Singapore, or Tokyo; they certainly are far more efficiently master-planned than those cities found in America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and even Western Europe.

Here is a same-scale comparison between America's and China's sprawliest urban areas:

This is Kansas City, Missouri [population of urban area: roughly 2,000,000]
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Kansas+City&sll=37.09024,-112.5&sspn=48.909425,112.5&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Kansas+City,+Jackson,+Missouri&t=k&ll=39.102091,-94.601898&spn=0.090452,0.219727&z=13

This is Beijing, China (the foremost example of a car-dependent Chinese city) [population of urban area: roughly 13,000,000]
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Beijing&sll=35.835628,-90.241699&sspn=12.599522,28.125&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Beijing,+China&ll=39.913423,116.385899&spn=0.09322,0.219727&t=k&z=13

I mean, how the fuck could a city of 2,000,000 people occupy roughly equal urban space as a city of 13,000,000.

Clearly, Chinese cities are far more compact. Moreover, many Chinese cities are building tons of public mass-transit systems, which would lead to a far more permeable sense of mobility for its residents.



Beijing metro:16,801.25 km2 (6,487 sq mi)
Metro kansas city: 313.5 sq mi (812.1 km2)

"But you have to realize that Chinese cities have the luxury to have these large public spaces (tons of squares and uber-wide avenues) because much of the residential developments are in, relatively dense neighborhoods of high-rise or mid-rise complexes or dense-versions of suburban gated-communities."

I'm not talking about the wealth, but china has a huge population and it should manage land usage more efficently, allowing huge avenues and squares is going to waste land that's really needed to prevent mass urban sprawl. China is blind in adopting the american styled car transportation system for it's cities. The more cars on the road is going to increase emissions, plus wide avenues will make areas harder to get around, In nanning i had to walk thirty minutes from a bus station to the nearest restaurant. So what if people get richer, i'd rather have things be more efficent then having bad ideas justified.

"high-rise or mid-rise complexes"
I lived in my uncle's apartment during my stay which was around the suburbs, most of those high rises in the CBD are ownly afforadble by wealthier residents even the middle class couldn't afford it, so they have to travel to the CBD's for work. Which causes high car usage, Higher car usage is going to give more emissions.

Beijing metro:16,801.25 km2 (6,487 sq mi)
Metro kansas city: 313.5 sq mi (812.1 km2)

I'm not talking about the wealth, but china has a huge population and it should manage land usage more efficently, allowing huge avenues and squares is going to waste land that's really needed to prevent mass urban sprawl. China is blind in adopting the american styled car transportation system for it's cities. The more cars on the road is going to increase emissions, plus wide avenues will make areas harder to get around, In nanning i had to walk thirty minutes from a bus station to the nearest restaurant. So what if people get richer, i'd rather have things be more efficent then having bad ideas justified.

Chinese cities ARE dense, therefore there needs to be plenty of SPACE where people congregate or to simply function as 'breathing space'. Well designed public spaces in an urban framework, surrounded by leisure and retail functions (bars with outside seating, shop fronts opening up on the square, as is the case with Nanning) are definitely NOT a waste of space.

As for shopping centres, I hardly think having all the shops at street level is going to take less space.

"high-rise or mid-rise complexes"
I lived in my uncle's apartment during my stay which was around the suburbs, most of those high rises in the CBD are ownly afforadble by wealthier residents even the middle class couldn't afford it, so they have to travel to the CBD's for work. Which causes high car usage, Higher car usage is going to give more emissions.[/QUOTE]

I don't think narrowing a few roads and getting rid of a few squares are going to do anything towards decreasing commuting distance. And last time I checked there are ambitious transit schemes in most major cities. So what's your problem?

"chinese cities ARE dense"
No no no, density is mostly in the older areas that haven't had any construction plans, If you go to chinese cities they are getting less and less dense, and that's new construction so density is going away.

"therefore there needs to be plenty of SPACE where people congregate or to simply function as 'breathing space'."

There's already ton's of space, i don't know when's the last time you went to china, but the idea of wasting space has made cities more deserted and more harder and longer to travel from one area to another. Beijing was just terrible to walk through.

"Well designed public spaces in an urban framework, surrounded by leisure and retail functions (bars with outside seating, shop fronts opening up on the square, as is the case with Nanning) are definitely NOT a waste of space."

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7885/s23231213123123123123da.jpg
"Restrictions on building large-scale retail outlets were blamed for the failure of large American chain stores.

"public spaces"

Did you just see the pictures??? the wide avenues are giving way to mass car consumption, in ten years china surpassed america's level of carbon emissions!


"As for shopping centres, I hardly think having all the shops at street level is going to take less space."
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/4593/shinjukunight.jpg

And reply to my PM.

"chinese cities ARE dense"
No no no, density is mostly in the older areas that haven't had any construction plans, If you go to chinese cities they are getting less and less dense, and that's new construction so density is going away.

"therefore there needs to be plenty of SPACE where people congregate or to simply function as 'breathing space'."

There's already ton's of space, i don't know when's the last time you went to china, but the idea of wasting space has made cities more deserted and more harder and longer to travel from one area to another. Beijing was just terrible to walk through.

"Well designed public spaces in an urban framework, surrounded by leisure and retail functions (bars with outside seating, shop fronts opening up on the square, as is the case with Nanning) are definitely NOT a waste of space."

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7885/s23231213123123123123da.jpg
"Restrictions on building large-scale retail outlets were blamed for the failure of large American chain stores.

"public spaces"

Did you just see the pictures??? the wide avenues are giving way to mass car consumption, in ten years china surpassed america's level of carbon emissions!


"As for shopping centres, I hardly think having all the shops at street level is going to take less space."
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/4593/shinjukunight.jpg

And reply to my PM.

U should know that in that pic u posted of Shinjuku, shops are not only at street level, but also underground and on higher floors.....resembling a mall
Anyway, for simple phisics, it's undeniable that a mall takes less space, with the same number of shops, than street level shops....

U should know that in that pic u posted of Shinjuku, shops are not only at street level, but also underground and on higher floors.....resembling a mall
Anyway, for simple phisics, it's undeniable that a mall takes less space, with the same number of shops, than street level shops....

Don't forget the size of the complex and the amount of parking needed for huge shopping centers. "underground and on higher floors" even better.

"chinese cities ARE dense"
No no no, density is mostly in the older areas that haven't had any construction plans, If you go to chinese cities they are getting less and less dense, and that's new construction so density is going away.

Asthetics aside, population density IS high. That's what you get when you pile people on top of one another. As Alec said - simple physics.

Design of buildings and the perception of density it influences is another matter.

There's already ton's of space, i don't know when's the last time you went to china, but the idea of wasting space has made cities more deserted and more harder and longer to travel from one area to another. Beijing was just terrible to walk through.

I thought we were talking about Nanning and its revamped city centre?



Did you just see the pictures??? the wide avenues are giving way to mass car consumption, in ten years china surpassed america's level of carbon emissions!

Didn't see anything of the sort in the pedestrianised Nanning city centre.


http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/4593/shinjukunight.jpg

Multi-level shops. Department stores, shopping centres, same difference.

And reply to my PM.

For your own health - just shut up.

"Asthetics aside, population density IS high. That's what you get when you pile people on top of one another. As Alec said - simple physics.

Design of buildings and the perception of density it influences is another matter."

No serouisly when's the last time you walked in a chinese city??? unless you live in a poor area, there is no such thing as density.

"I thought we were talking about Nanning and its revamped city centre?"
My comment on most chinese cities in general. same thing that's happening to nanning.

"Didn't see anything of the sort in the pedestrianised Nanning city centre."

Not in the center, but going to those shopping centers most people will perfer to use a automobile, more emissions just because some idiot thinks that conserving space is a BAD idea.

"Multi-level shops. Department stores, shopping centres, same difference"

What are you talking about??? in cities like tokyo pedestrian shopping streets extend throught the city, and those don't look like any huge shopping centers.

"For your own health - just shut up. "

How about you reply to it??? serouisly if you didn't read the last page why did you bother telling me to shut up??

Don't forget the size of the complex and the amount of parking needed for huge shopping centers. "underground and on higher floors" even better.

Those structures are the equivalent of malls, with multilevel commercial activities, the first u acknowledge this simple fact, the better for everyone. They anyway ARE NOT an example of street level shops, and if u knew Shinjuku u'd understand that. Period.
And maybe u should know that there also are underground parkings and a dense net of underground lines to get there...

"Asthetics aside, population density IS high. That's what you get when you pile people on top of one another. As Alec said - simple physics.

Design of buildings and the perception of density it influences is another matter."

No serouisly when's the last time you walked in a chinese city??? unless you live in a poor area, there is no such thing as density.

"I thought we were talking about Nanning and its revamped city centre?"
My comment on most chinese cities in general. same thing that's happening to nanning.

"Didn't see anything of the sort in the pedestrianised Nanning city centre."

Not in the center, but going to those shopping centers most people will perfer to use a automobile, more emissions just because some idiot thinks that conserving space is a BAD idea.

"Multi-level shops. Department stores, shopping centres, same difference"

What are you talking about??? in cities like tokyo pedestrian shopping streets extend throught the city, and those don't look like any huge shopping centers.

"For your own health - just shut up. "

How about you reply to it??? serouisly if you didn't read the last page why did you bother telling me to shut up??

how is spreading hundreds of shops at street level on an inevitably much larger area, instead of using a mall, an example of "conserving space"? Does phisics work different in ur world?

Those structures are the equivalent of malls, with multilevel commercial activities, the first u acknowledge this simple fact, the better for everyone. They anyway ARE NOT an example of street level shops, and if u knew Shinjuku u'd understand that. Period.
And maybe u should know that there also are underground parkings and a dense net of underground lines to get there...

"Those structures are the equivalent of malls"
Shopping streets/districts have the same purpose, but they are built differently, they're built according to the streets then a huge structure.

"They anyway ARE NOT an example of street level shops"
Where have i said that malls are an example of street level shops??? i've been ranting about how there should be more street level shops then malls,

"And maybe u should know that there also are underground parkings and a dense net of underground lines to get there"
No money for that, Plus i don't understand why there should be even MORE AND MORE cars, china's emissions is going to triple by the next decade if car usage just increases.

"Those structures are the equivalent of malls"
Shopping streets/districts have the same purpose, but they are built differently, they're built according to the streets then a huge structure.

"They anyway ARE NOT an example of street level shops"
Where have i said that malls are an example of street level shops??? i've been ranting about how there should be more street level shops then malls,

"And maybe u should know that there also are underground parkings and a dense net of underground lines to get there"
No money for that, Plus i don't understand why there should be even MORE AND MORE cars, china's emissions is going to triple by the next decade if car usage just increases.

Ahahahaha, u must think u are so smart, don't u? U posted that Shinjuku pic talking about of street level shops against malls..and those simply ARE NOT street level shops.
Again, how are shopping streets/districts, in which hundreds or more shops are distributed into a much larger area, saving any space? (which is, at the moment, cause u're easy to contradict urself just to keep a point, what u were talking about in these posts)

"Ahahahaha, u must think u are so smart, don't u? U posted that Shinjuku pic talking about of street level shops against malls..and those simply ARE NOT street level shops. " "

"NOT street level shops"
Who mentioned "street level shops"??? (NCT), and what have i said??? (Shopping districts)
Did you even see the picture??? Do you see malls everywhere???

"Again, how are shopping streets/districts, in which hundreds or more shops are distributed into a much larger area, saving any space? (which is, at the moment, cause u're easy to contradict urself just to keep a point, what u were talking about in these posts"

You make shopping districts and make them dense, being intergated with public transportation, you'll save space and you don't have to build parking lots like you'll have to for malls.

Did you even see the picture??? Do you see malls everywhere???

I must admit u have quite a skill to twist things and try to hide ur own ignorance and contradictions...Anyway, I have seen the pics even if I wouldn't have needed to, having lived in Tokyo-Yokohama area for quite some time. I don't need a pic to know that many levels of those buildings are occupied by restaurants, shops, department store and other commercial activities, making them nothing less than malls...and it happens not only in Shinjuku, but also in Shibuya, in Takadanobaba, in Ikebukuro, in Akihabara and so on..
Try to make peace with ur own brain and be a tad less contradictory. I know that to be proven wrong almost always is not pleasant, but this is not a good way to change the situation.

"Asthetics aside, population density IS high. That's what you get when you pile people on top of one another. As Alec said - simple physics.

Design of buildings and the perception of density it influences is another matter."

No serouisly when's the last time you walked in a chinese city??? unless you live in a poor area, there is no such thing as density.

You've never seen 30+ storey residencial tower blocks? How's that not density?

"I thought we were talking about Nanning and its revamped city centre?"
My comment on most chinese cities in general. same thing that's happening to nanning.

"Didn't see anything of the sort in the pedestrianised Nanning city centre."

Not in the center, but going to those shopping centers most people will perfer to use a automobile, more emissions just because some idiot thinks that conserving space is a BAD idea.

The shopping centres in those pictures ARE in Nanning CITY CENTRE!!!

"Multi-level shops. Department stores, shopping centres, same difference"

What are you talking about??? in cities like tokyo pedestrian shopping streets extend throught the city, and those don't look like any huge shopping centers.

Look and perception.

"For your own health - just shut up. "

How about you reply to it??? serouisly if you didn't read the last page why did you bother telling me to shut up??

Why would I even bother if I was only going to talk to a brick wall?

(Come to think of it why do I even bother replying here)

I must admit u have quite a skill to twist things and try to hide ur own ignorance and contradictions...Anyway, I have seen the pics even if I wouldn't have needed to, having lived in Tokyo-Yokohama area for quite some time. I don't need a pic to know that many levels of those buildings are occupied by restaurants, shops, department store and other commercial activities, making them nothing less than malls...and it happens not only in Shinjuku, but also in Shibuya, in Takadanobaba, in Ikebukuro, in Akihabara and so on..
Try to make peace with ur own brain and be a tad less contradictory. I know that to be proven wrong almost always is not pleasant, but this is not a good way to change the situation.

"I must admit u have quite a skill to twist things and try to hide ur own ignorance and contradictions"

Sure like you've done tons of times.

"I don't need a pic to know that many levels of those buildings are occupied by restaurants, shops, department store and other commercial activities,"

Jesus, let me say this again. Do you see a mall everywhere???

"making them nothing less than malls"
Shopping is something that's common to malls, streets and districts. But do you see in that picture a giant physical structure???

"only in Shinjuku, but also in Shibuya, in Takadanobaba, in Ikebukuro, in Akihabara and so on"
Look at the pictures of nanning and other chinese cities, and compare those with shinjuku, shibuya, Takadanobaba, and Ikebukuro. Which ones have mostly giant malls and which ones have mostly shopping districts??

"Try to make peace with ur own brain and be a tad less contradictory."
My Brain's the one with problems??? Sure like when You credited "shopping level street" to me when it was NCT. It might have been me instead.


"You've never seen 30+ storey residencial tower blocks? How's that not density?"
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/m/hangzhou/e/2009-10/09/content_8774031.htm
"Now, major cities throughout the country are home to empty skyscrapers and shopping malls that are virtually empty, apart from store clerks and security guards."
Here's another question, You've never seen pictures where entire areasa have been used for wide streets, How is that density??

"Look and perception."
Oh nice one there, I like your perceptions as well.

"Why would I even bother if I was only going to talk to a brick wall?"
Because your that brick wall. I'll just restate what i did, Some moron claimed i was talking to myself in a thread that died out four months ago, And you think you had to balls to tell me to shutup when that moron was talking to me?

Jesus, let me say this again. Do you see a mall everywhere???

Somebody save him, or us...please.
U know "there's no worse deaf than someone that doesn't want to listen". U don't like malls and prefer normal shops or shopping districts..but u'r also for "saving space" and is a contradiction...But anyway u'll twist in a way that u think is very clever...Enjoy :D
Anyway reread very carefully what I wrote, and maybe u'll understand what I meant.....

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