Rizal Park (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rizal_Park) is situated in the heart of the city of Manila, Philippines. It is at the northern end of Roxas Boulevard, overlooking Manila Bay.

Rizal Park's history began in the early 1800s during the Spanish rule. While Manila's social and business activities were confined within Intramuros, a small area just south of the walls was cleared to prevent sneak attacks from the patriotic natives. The name "Luneta" is synonymous to the word lunette; the park was said to have the shape of a half moon in Spanish times and situated next to a Spanish fort serving as a buffer during rebellions by the locals. The Park was also called Bagumbayan in Spanish colonial era.

Luneta has been the site of some of the most significant moments in Philippine history . Among them are the execution of Dr. José Rizal on December 30, 1896, whose martyred death made him a hero of the Philippine Revolution. (It was officially renamed Rizal Park in tribute to him.); the Declaration of Philippine Independence from American rule on June 4, 1946; and the political rallies of Ferdinand Marcos and Corazon Aquino in 1986.

The monument also serves as the point of origin or Kilometre Zero to all other cities in the Philippines.

The park in modern times has become a local spot for families to have picnics on Sundays and holidays and a major tourist attraction of Manila. It has a small man-made lake with a replica of the Philippine archipelago in the middle. The park has recreational value as well, as bands, orchestras and other sorts of entertainment are provided for free in its open-air auditorium, aptly called "Concert at the Park".

Quirino GrandstandOther attractions of Rizal Park include the Chinese and Japanese Gardens, the Department of Tourism main office, the National Museum of the Filipino People, The National Library of the Philippines, the Orchidarium and Butterfly Pavilion, the Planetarium, the monument of the Philippines's first hero, Lapu-Lapu, a fountain area, a children's lagoon, a chess plaza, a light and sound presentation on the last days of Jose Rizal,a large open stone model of the Philippine islands, and the Quirino Grandstand.

On an area on the right side of the park stands a set of statues depicting Rizal's execution, situated on the spot where he was martyred. Contrary to popular belief, the monument is not the spot where he was executed, but the monument is situated there to serve two purposes: to serve a kilometer zero or starting point od measure for the distances from manila, and to guide incoming boats and ships to Manila Bay, prior to the erection of a lighthouse.

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sa wakas nag karoon ng thread na ganito pano hinahanap ko to dati sana keep up natin this thread

Philippines' Kilometer Zero... (net find)

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across the Kilometer Zero mark is the Rizal Monument...

the structure behind it is a clock (i think it's Bulgari) donated by Filipino Freemasons...

farther behind is the Quirino Grandstand...

Whats the point of the "Kilometer 0 " again? Just wondering :)

^^ It's the starting point for all measurements of distances in the Philippines.

Thanks :D

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Our version of Central Park!

That warrior statue (of Lapu-lapu?) is pretty decent but out of place in the National Hero's Park because of its size.

Nababaduyan talaga ako sa mga banga at kawa na iyan. Parang naging Bulacan Garden ang Rizal Park.

That warrior statue (of Lapu-lapu?) is pretty decent but out of place in the National Hero's Park because of its size.
I agree. I think it's better off at/near MoA. ANother good location is at EDSA cor Roxas Blvd. It will look magnificent at the entrance to the avenue.

the structure behind it is a clock (i think it's Bulgari) donated by Filipino Freemasons...



It's actually a Bulova. :okay:

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Aerial view of Rizal Park

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Luneta is the last remaining large open space ng Metro Manila..Haayy, Sana meron pa tayong open spaces like this dito sa Metro Manila.

Luneta is the last remaining large open space ng Metro Manila..Haayy, Sana meron pa tayong open spaces like this dito sa Metro Manila.

Malaki pa yung sa FBGC di ba? Sa Quezon City- we still have UP, QCMC, La Mesa Ecopark and Ninoy Aquino Parks and Wildlife.

I mean, un pwede talagang libutin at libre parang luneta park.

Un FBGC's open spaces are only emtpy lots, sooner or later, all of the open spaces sa FBGC will be gone. Even in it's masterplan, it has no public park planned in FBGC.

UP, It has no park with the size of luneta at hinde pwede gumala sa loob nito ang mga publiko at 90% ng lupain ng UP ay masukal at puro damuhan lang.

QCMC is just a huge circular rotonda at cramp sya di tulad ng luneta na malaki ang space.

La Mesa Ecopark at Ninoy Aquino Parks and Wildlife is not free at hinde sya masyadong open where you can freely fly your kite.

In short, wala na tayong park na may malaking open space tulad ng luneta mismo.

The last time I was in UP (that was yesterday) pwede pa namang gumala ang publiko sa loob ng libre. Masukal? Central Park which is to New York what Rizal Park is to Manila is full of trees. Being the lungs of Manila, it ought to have more trees. Field siguro ang hanap mo...

Sana tanggalin at ilipat sa ibang lokasyon yong estatua ni Lapu- Lapu sa harap ng agripina circle kasi napakapangit tingnan para bang eye sore. Sana irestore na lang nila yong fountain dati sa gitna mas classic ang dating.

Sana tanggalin at ilipat sa ibang lokasyon yong estatua ni Lapu- Lapu sa harap ng agripina circle kasi napakapangit tingnan para bang eye sore. Sana irestore na lang nila yong fountain dati sa gitna mas classic ang dating.

I agree completely with the statement above. Mas ok sya nung may globe na may fountain. Buhay na buhay ang dating ng place. At sana ibalik yung skating rink around the globe and may music pa. Eversince itanayo yung out of place na statue na yun nawala bigla ang mga taong gumagala dun. The place just died. And at night dyan tumatambay ang mga pokpok that caters to taxi and jeepney drivers.

at sana alisin lahat ng mga basura , figuratively at literally

^ LOL@pokpok that caters to taxi and jeepney drivers :lol: Talagang may target market :D

Anyway, One night, I passed by Rizal Park at and I saw a lot of people sleeping around the area. I never thought that you can spend a night on the park.

baka kung magpepetition ang ssc phil community magagawan natin ng paraan

;35680900']It's actually a Bulova. :okay:

oh... hehe... thanks for the correction... :):)

teka, nandyan pa rin ba sa Luneta Park yung Planetarium? i've been there once during the Centennial Independence... i don't know kung meron pa rin yun ngayon...

^ LOL@pokpok that caters to taxi and jeepney drivers :lol: Talagang may target market :D

Anyway, One night, I passed by Rizal Park at and I saw a lot of people sleeping around the area. I never thought that you can spend a night on the park.

I think it was several years ago when me and my friends passed by Luneta going from Intramuros to Baywalk, and this old lady offered us sacks to sleep in... ^^ Meron pa rin pala hanggang ngayon.

Not to disrespect the cebuano's. But IMO, Dapat un Lapu-Lapu statue inside RIZAL Park should be thrown to Cebu. I don't care kahit ba "gift" ito sa atin ng mga koreano. He is just really out of place and in the first place, historically, rajah sulayman owned the land where manila stands and not him.

I say, bring back the globe and remove the ugly trees surrounding the original skating rink:
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wow! Luneta Park back then sure looks great! dapat hindi na nila tinanggal yang globe na yan... it makes the place look really great...

It look like a European City minus the Philippine Flag ..!!

:banana::banana::banana:

The building were the Palaces dba!!

wow! Luneta Park back then sure looks great! dapat hindi na nila tinanggal yang globe na yan... it makes the place look really great...

I agree when we went there last 2007 prior to the crusade of JMCIM @ the Quirino Grandstand..we take a shots there, Lapu - lapu statue was pretty big parang na out of place tuloy un kay Rizal..

It look like a European City minus the Philippine Flag ..!!

:banana::banana::banana:

The building were the Palaces dba!!

Those buildings are government offices (and they still are). Never were they royal palaces.

kunwari nga lang po nasa European City tau eh hehehhe:lol::lol::lol:

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yellow na kulay ngayon

its better than nothing or a tire... Hindi naman ganun pangit or ka baduy... the way you look lang cguro.... maganda at maayos pag lagay...

Nababaduyan talaga ako sa mga banga at kawa na iyan. Parang naging Bulacan Garden ang Rizal Park.

hayaan nalang natin si Lapu-Lapu na nanjan sa tabi ni Rizal.. kse nag liligawan sila... hehehehe

wow! Luneta Park back then sure looks great! dapat hindi na nila tinanggal yang globe na yan... it makes the place look really great...

yup..gifted to us for us to showcase and in true pinoy style...we destroyed it ...unfortunately i must add the word AGAIN and AGAIN

its better than nothing or a tire... Hindi naman ganun pangit or ka baduy... the way you look lang cguro.... maganda at maayos pag lagay...

Matatanggap ko na siguro yung kawa at banga, pero bakit naman may naglagay ng mga estatwa ng gansa sa fountain area. :bash:

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Repost from the Then and Now thread :)

I was once a volunteer tour guide inside the Manila Orchidarium until management issue was transferred from Clean and Green foundation to Bantay Kalikasan

wow... nice pics there...

hindi pa gaanong matataas ang mga buildings sa Binondo noon ah... at ang ganda ng Agripina Circle..

somehow, the trees ruined the view... tsk tsk... :ohno:

di talaga magaling sa aesthetics mga Pinoy. :yes: tingnan nyo naman ginawa dyan sa Rizal Park. tsk tsk

;35862080']Repost from the Then and Now thread :)

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I love it! :D Three very different transformational eras for Rizal Park. Right now, the 1960's could pass for some developing capital, say in Africa, the 1970's-1980's could pass for Washington D.C., and the 2000's is ALL Filipino with the vibrancy in color, tropical greenery, huge Lapu Lapu(?) statue, and rising modern skyline in the backdrop.

I would just go with the 70's - 80's modern and american looking agrifina circle rather than the super baduy with lapu-lapu agrifina circle we have today. Since It shows na sobrang baduy at tanga ang pinoy pag dating sa pagayos ng isang lugar.

Pink paint on a American Neoclassical buildings that are par with Washington D.C.'s neoclassical buildings = SOBRANG BADUY AT SOBRANG PANIRA

di talaga magaling sa aesthetics mga Pinoy. :yes: tingnan nyo naman ginawa dyan sa Rizal Park. tsk tsk

Gaudy and garish are the words that comes to mind when you mentioned that, Jeff.

The 1970s-1980s looks so much better. Now, the trees do ruin the view but more trees, the better right? Especially with this climate.

I agree that our aesthetics now are on the tacky and gaudy side.

Now, the trees do ruin the view but more trees, the better right? Especially with this climate.


yeah, they're really helpful in these times when we're experiencing climate change...

pero sana naman yung paglalagay nila ng mga puno eh hindi naman dun sa lugar na talagang nakaka-distract ng view...

and again, it's because we Filipinos still lack much in aesthetics...

May mga eksperto naman at magagaling. Kaya lang pinakikialaman ng mga nagmamarunong na ilan sa gobyerno natin na in-charge sa Rizal Park, hindi ipaubaya sa isang ekspertong landscape architect ang disenyo. Kay Ildefonso Santos yata pinahawak ang disenyo ng 1970's Luneta. Buhay pa ba yung Rado flower clock doon?

Saka tingnan nyo naman, Rizal Park, tapos may higanteng rebulto ni Lapu-lapu sa teritoryo ni Rizal, sa'n ka pa.

Isa pa, parang ginawang private garden ang parke, may mga banga at estatwa ng gansa pang nilagay. Buti walang nilagay na mga duwende at grotto para kumpleto na. :ohno:

Pwede naman silang magpagawa ng disenyo sa mga estudyante ng Landscape Architecture sa UP, magaganda pa makukuha nilang ideya. :)

Here's a commentary on that gigantic statue of Lapu-lapu...

Wow! What a monument! (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=239962&publicationSubCategoryId=85)
CITY SENSE By Paulo Alcazaren Updated February 22, 2004 12:00 AM

Manila is a funny city. Every morning, one wakes up not knowing what will change, pop up in, or disappear from the cityscape. One day, it will be a long-established street name; the next, it may be a cherished heritage building, shade-rich grove of trees or colorful plaza. Recently, we all woke up to find a 50-foot bronze behemoth appear, as if dropping from the sky, right smack in the center of Rizal Park. (Reports vary as to the actual dimension; some say 30 feet while others state 40 feet – only in the Philippines is reality negotiable!)

Despite the fact that the place is named Rizal Park, authorities saw it fit to plunk a statue of the brave Lapu-Lapu larger than the older one of National Hero Pepe Rizal. Actually, it seems from reports that it was just one authority – the Department of Tourism under Dick "Wow" Gordon.

Everyone is up in arms about this new folly rising to take the place of a previous uncompleted folly by a well-known Filipino sculptor (for which the Filipino people reportedly paid P135 unaccounted million in the hubris of the 1998 centennial celebrations). Apparently, the National Historical Institute had vetoed the plan because of the question of appropriateness of the statue on that particular site.

The question, however, was not that of Lapu-Lapu’s valor compared to Rizal’s, or of his ranking in the national hierarchy of heroes, although this seems to be what non-Manilans believe Manileños are harping about. Visayans are jamming the Internet chat rooms with countering arguments like "(The) Cebuano’s revenue is good enough for Manila but the Cebuano, as an individual, is not good enough for Luneta." Or: "It’s about time we brought to the forefront pre-Spanish colonialist butt busters like Sultan Kudarat, Rajah Sulayman, Princess Tarhata, Lakandula ... why settle for opportunist mestizo-wannabe opportunists like Rizal or Aguinaldo?"

The monument was installed in a blink of an eye at the Teodoro F. Valencia Circle (Agrifina Circle to those of you who have not been informed of this change in name). The bronze statue, according to official releases, is a donation from the Korean Freedom League and presented as a gift to Filipinos. (A Google search yields no websites for the league here and the only references are to a rightist organization in the United States. Who are these people? Are they in the same club as that purportedly Japanese organization that conducted a political survey recently?)
Flawed History, Flawed Monument
The idea for the statue was supposedly hatched by former Tourism Secretary Gordon to "give recognition to the first Asian who fought against foreign invasion." Mr. Wow is quoted as saying, "Lapu-Lapu is one of the greatest Filipino heroes. His bravery and role in repulsing Spanish invaders long ago dramatized the capability of the Filipino to rise above adversity and believe in their selves ... Lapu-Lapu was the first Asian to lead a successful uprising against foreign invasion."

Well, Mr. Dubya Owe Dubya, in the first place, there was no Filipino nation then (some even contest that it exists today). Ka Lapu-Lapu was a local head of a group that felt insulted that strange funny-smelling foreigners were trying to extend their hegemony this far from their home turf. There was no adversity, invasion or uprising either. Lapu-Lapu was not under any Spanish rule that he had to rise up against. The trip-weary Spaniards were outnumbered and easy pickings despite some advantage in weaponry. Neither was the defeat so outstanding that it caused the Spaniards to shake in fear and, because of this, not return till 35 years later. They took all that time because jumbo jets were not yet in service and it took a few decades to organize another trip (which at that time was akin to traveling to the moon). Yup, all the stories on both sides were hyped up by historians who in this day and age we would call spin doctors.

Talking about spin, the DOT blurb says that Lapu-Lapu was chosen, "not because of his victory over Ferdinand Magellan, but because of what he stands for in history." Lapu-Lapu stands for something symbolic, I agree. But I believe that he or she (since we have little documentation of that almost-mythical hero’s gender) is symbolic more of an inexcusable ignorance of our longer and real history.

And talking about doctors, Dr. Jose Rizal is not without controversy either, his elevation to the title of national hero being part of a strategy of pacification by the Americans. Nevertheless, it is his statue that has stood as a landmark of the Luneta for 92 years. It was there (or sufficiently close to there, not in Mactan Island hundreds of kilometers south) were he did sacrifice his life for his ideals. Whatever those ideals actually were, his death did help stoke the fire that lifted us (whatever our forefathers conceived that "us" to be at the time) to revolution and eventual independence.
Monumental Blight
Okay, let’s not get into that argument about how we celebrate death and defeat over more success-filled events and personalities in our mis-written history. That is left to bodies like the National Historical Institute and a new generation of more-politically correct historians like its head, Ambeth Ocampo. What we should do is to consider the controversy instead in terms of what this trend of instant monuments-to-everyone-and-his-brother is doing to our urban landscape.

What it is clearly doing is further blighting a cityscape already profusely messed up with wires and cables, billboards and ugly architecture. Most civilized cities leave the decisions of new landmarks and monuments to bodies like the NHI and a planning board or, in the case of Washington DC and New York, to fine arts committees (because city embellishment is really a fine art, one too dangerous to be left to culturally-crass politicians and senatorial candidates).

Critics have likened the new Lapu-Lapu statue to an oversized Oscar. Is this a portent of things to come? An ominous sign that we may soon suffer the nightmare of yet another actor leading our country further down the drain? The statue itself is sculpted by the respected Imao. Not bad, the way statues go, but less striking than others because of the awkwardly-designed platform on which it stands (symbolic maybe of the platform certain candidates are constructing). The base seems to be an outsized wedding cake in concrete. It is so thoroughly out of proportion to the statue itself that Lapu-Lapu loses his feet and ankles as you approach. This problem would be eliminated if a classical plinth design were used, one that elevates the figure properly and gives it presence.

The base looks also like it was meant to be an amphitheater but works the wrong way – scattering the audience’s sightlines instead of focusing them on a central spot. Intermediary steps are also lacking, making access difficult between terrace levels. Clearly, the urban designer, landscape architect or architect (if there was one) was confused or given a confusing design brief. I doubt if anyone with proper training was given the job. Like a professor at the UP said, "My second-year design students could have done a better job!" Most probably, the thing was designed by a committee.

The statue’s size competes with the Rizal monument in the larger context of the park, our national mall. This space is already chock-full of busts, leftover monuments and all manner of plaques and memorials. Another one, especially of this large size, detracts rather than lends clarity to the space’s already damaged fabric.

Some argue that this park, like Washington DC’s national mall, is meant for all national heroes. The American capital, indeed, has monuments to Washington, Lincoln and Jefferson on, or connected to, its mall. The great difference is that the central Washington mall is approximately four times the length and three times the width of Rizal Park. It has the space for grand monuments with enough foreground and background. This lends the proper settings for the monuments to make visual as well as symbolic sense. The Rizal monument was, in fact, meant as a smaller version of the Washington monument to match a smaller version of the US Congress that Daniel Burnham had planned for the eastern end of the Luneta – where the Lapu-Lapu statue now stands. (That’s why our version looks so incomplete – because it is!)
Symbols And Success
There are better sites and stronger symbolic opportunities for civic embellishment than that which guides our production of monuments today. Fifty years ago, historian Sol Gwekoh proposed a pantheon of heroes, which was to rise at the new capitol site in Quezon City. National Planning Commission head Anselmo Alquinto (yes, we did have physical planners in positions of authority then), incorporated the planned pantheon in a classic layout that fit the original Frost/Arellano master plan for Quezon City. The pantheon was never built.

This is the larger story, it seems, of the Rizal Park, Manila and the whole country. We are a work in progress, where nothing is ever finished and where we replace accomplishment with empty symbols instead. We lose sight of long-term goals (like finishing a park, city plan or poverty-alleviation program) because "long-term" is not in our vocabulary. We erect monuments that only to glorify our lack of understanding of our own roots, culture and identity. We identify with instant statues, quick results, seeking immediate gratification from media events, media personalities, ratings and surveys. It’s the photo-op we look out for, instead of opportunities to produce lasting change – both for our urban environment as well as for our political and social one.

What will we find missing, changed or added when we get up tomorrow? The Edsa celebration moved to a sidestreet? Another park turned into a mall? Yet another tree-lined street turned into a U-turned turnpike? More of our city vistas and views of clear skies blotted out by ever-proliferating billboards and thickening air pollution?

The uncertainty of modern Filipino urban life can and should be mitigated by building monuments only when we are sure of the symbols of our success – as a city, as a people and as a nation. Those who profess to be our monument builders have better be dammed sure they build these monuments not for themselves and personal glory but as tributes to real societal, political and economic progress.

Wow naman! Let’s stop being funny and stop building any more monuments until we know how to design and build them well and until we know these monuments reflect a better world we have created for ourselves – and not just a movie-set version of it.

wow... nice pics there...

hindi pa gaanong matataas ang mga buildings sa Binondo noon ah... at ang ganda ng Agripina Circle..

somehow, the trees ruined the view... tsk tsk... :ohno:

kasi walang sense of aesthetics ang mga nagtanim ng mga yan...basta makapagtanim lang....kala siguro maganda na...:bash:...pinapalibutan ang ma structures ng tanim hanggang ang structures hindi na makita ang ganda....take the case of the mla cathedral....pag nag pic ka nakaharang mga puno buti na lang lukaret ang head ng intramuros administration...pinagtatagpas...:lol: ngayon kita na ulit sya ngayon...

Luneta used to be beautiful but the problem now is that the government agency in charge of the park doesn't know how to maintain and keep the park clean. An expert Landscape designer is needed to make the park beautiful again. Sometimes trees that has grown too big needed some trimming to make the park look beautiful and more inviting or if not trees needed to be uprooted and replanted with a smaller grown tree like what the American and European has always done on the trees on thier parks, plaza,and boulevard.

Luneta used to be beautiful but the problem now is that the government agency in charge of the park doesn't know how to maintain and keep the park clean. An expert Landscape designer is needed to make the park beautiful again. Sometimes trees that has grown too big needed some trimming to make the park look beautiful and more inviting or if not trees needed to be uprooted and replanted with a smaller grown tree like what the American and European has always done on the trees on thier parks, plaza,and boulevard.

and also strictly enforce anti-littering law in the park... ang dami kasing mga kalat... kahit may mga tagalinis, ang dami pa ring mga pasaway na nagtatapon ng plastic at mga pinagkainan sa park... tsk tsk.. :ohno::ohno:

and also strictly enforce anti-littering law in the park... ang dami kasing mga kalat... kahit may mga tagalinis, ang dami pa ring mga pasaway na nagtatapon ng plastic at mga pinagkainan sa park... tsk tsk.. :ohno::ohno:
littering in the streets/parks/everywhere. that's very uncivilized. ;)

Maganda talaga ang view ng luneta. Lalo na 'yung mga estatuwa.Sana makapunta ako doon.

there is a large shaded grassy area on C5 near heritage park.
on weekends its full of people probably from across C5 bicutan etc.
its a goldmine for these people since its the only free greenery and gives them a chance to be outdoors.

at 5pm Sunday, the place is full of wrappers, newspapers and boxes and plastic bottles.... and thats what these people do with a gold mine.

the only hope for Luneta is 24 hours street sweepers...anything less will make Rizal cry since he really believed that the Filipino was capable of being on the world stage.

Noong panahon ni Doroy Valencia bilang administrador ng Rizal Park (Marcos regime), mga dating preso ang mga kinuhang tagalinis ng parke, kaya walang makapormang mandurukot nung panahong iyon. Saka malinis talaga at berdeng-berde ang damuhan noon. May MATORCO pa.

Sa panahon ngayon, i think homeless and very poor people should be hired as park/street cleaner. kesa maghapon lng sila nakatambay/nakahiga/natutulog kung saan saan. Atleast kumita rin sila kahit papano. and it would be a good start for them to look forward for a better life. imagine yong magiging epekto, mas malinis na metro manila, mababawasan yong eyesore (kahit na nakaawa sila tignan), less poverty (hopefully).... at dahil medyo magiging busy na sila, mababawasan ang growth rate ng pilipinas..:lol::lol::lol:

^^ a very good idea...

actually, dapat naman talaga ay bigyan ng trabaho yung mga mahihirap na tao.. kahit streetsweeper lang, ok na yun... at least nalilinis yung paligid...

at para may pakinabang sila... it will also deter them from committing crimes dahil may maayos na silang trabaho...

at, yun nga, babagal ang growth rate, dahil busy na sila sa trabaho...

Magandang suggestion, actually, mas masisipag pa ang mga iyan lalo na kapag may nagbibigay ng importansya at kumikilala sa kakayahan nila. Pwede ring i-train siguro iyong ibang matalino pero mahirap na tour guides, parang yung bata dun sa isang cave sa Cagayan.

Magandang suggestion, actually, mas masisipag pa ang mga iyan lalo na kapag may nagbibigay ng importansya at kumikilala sa kakayahan nila. Pwede ring i-train siguro iyong ibang matalino pero mahirap na tour guides, parang yung bata dun sa isang cave sa Cagayan.

yup...i was able to meet that boy...english speaking sya at marunong sa camera nakakatuwa.....naging tour guide namin sya sa callao cave....sa tuguegarao....

there is a large shaded grassy area on C5 near heritage park.
on weekends its full of people probably from across C5 bicutan etc.
its a goldmine for these people since its the only free greenery and gives them a chance to be outdoors.

at 5pm Sunday, the place is full of wrappers, newspapers and boxes and plastic bottles.... and thats what these people do with a gold mine.

the only hope for Luneta is 24 hours street sweepers...anything less will make Rizal cry since he really believed that the Filipino was capable of being on the world stage.

I know that place, diba yan un sa may waterfun? Tama ka, it's a gold mine dahil yan lang ang available PUBLIC Park ng taguig na walang entrance fee..

Meron din naman nag lilinis dyan at meron mailan ilan na tao na hinde marunong mag kalat o kaya nililinis din nila un kalat nila. kaso 90% of them ay balasubas talaga :nuts:

I know that place, diba yan un sa may waterfun? Tama ka, it's a gold mine dahil yan lang ang available PUBLIC Park ng taguig na walang entrance fee..

Meron din naman nag lilinis dyan at meron mailan ilan na tao na hinde marunong mag kalat o kaya nililinis din nila un kalat nila. kaso 90% of them ay balasubas talaga :nuts:
the place is cleaned sometime monday i guess...but its ridiculous....class B serves A. Class C serves A+B. ........the ones using this greenery are probably class D but they leave their rubbish because class D + E who are garbage collectors clean after them....

dont know where waterfun is but this one is near heritage park..and its not really a park..its a spot of greenery with shady trees maybe 300sqm in size.

bat ganun.. di pa ko nakakapasok ng rizal park.. nadadaanan ko lng.. mukang maganda naman a..

Ang hindi ko makalimutan nung bata pa ako pag pupunta kami ng Luneta, may malaking TV sa likod ng grandstand.

the place is cleaned sometime monday i guess...but its ridiculous....class B serves A. Class C serves A+B. ........the ones using this greenery are probably class D but they leave their rubbish because class D + E who are garbage collectors clean after them....

dont know where waterfun is but this one is near heritage park..and its not really a park..its a spot of greenery with shady trees maybe 300sqm in size.

Pag papunta ka ng signal tapos may nakita kang billboard na may nakakabit na slide sa ibabaw. Ayun un sinasabi kong waterfun :D! Billboard lang sya ng waterfun resort na nasa Muntinglupa. Kaso sa tagal na din, ginawa ng marker ng mga taga signal un at tinawag na nila un place na "Waterfun".

Back on topic:
Ang hinde ko malilimutan ng pumunta kami ng Luneta ay un nakita ko un floating casino and restaurant na nakatagilid at kalahati nya ay nakalubog!

Tapos nag renta kami ng bike at nabalabag ako, ouch :lol: ! at nandun pa un globe fountain sa Agrifina circle, nakakamiss un fountain. :ohno:

Last ay un nag-ala titanic pose ako sa ibabaw ng isang ferry ride papunta ng manila bay and back. Sarap ng amoy ng basura! :crazy:

Ang hindi ko makalimutan nung bata pa ako pag pupunta kami ng Luneta, may malaking TV sa likod ng grandstand.

pinakamalaking national panasonic na tv :banana:

pinakamalaking national panasonic na tv :banana:

talaga meron ganun.....tagal na siguro nun....:lol:

Nandun pa ba un mga bikes na nirerentahan? :D

talaga meron ganun.....tagal na siguro nun....:lol:

mid-80's grade one ako meron pa... yun din yata ang last time na nag picnic kami dun... LOL!

Nandun pa ba un mga bikes na nirerentahan? :D

wala akong matandaan na bike dati... baka sa ccp yun or mas matanda ka pa sa akin :lol:

^^ oo, sa CCP lang ang alam kong pinakalamalapit sa Luneta na may rentahan ng bikes...

kaso ayoko nang mag-bike ulet doon... naaksidente na ako dati dyan eh... bisperas pa naman ng pasko... :nuts::nuts:

^^ :lol:

I remember now, tama kayo, sa may CCP complex un bike rentals :D ! Sana naman, ibalik un agrifina globe fountain dahil nakakahiya si lapu lapu sa RIZAL park. :(

^^ :lol:

I remember now, tama kayo, sa may CCP complex un bike rentals :D ! Sana naman, ibalik un agrifina globe fountain dahil nakakahiya si lapu lapu sa RIZAL park. :(

ang suggestion ko nga ilipat si lapu-lapu sa area na malapit sa dagat to signify yung importance ng pagbabantay nya....standing guard ang pose nya diba...either sa dulo ng folk art theatre...sa may gloria maris rest..ewan ko kung nandun pa yun....meron dun parang rotunda kung saan umiikot ang kotse sa dulo....o di kaya sa space sa may film center...yung malapit sa gsis bldg gawin park yun for lapu-lapu lang he deserves a park all his own...yung agrifina circle....it was envisioned as a garden covered in glass...na parang bubble...that connects the national museum of the filipino people with dot bldg...na supposedly dapat ibinigay na rin sa national museum...para lahat ng bldg dyan ay national museum na ang may ari

ang suggestion ko nga ilipat si lapu-lapu sa area na malapit sa dagat to signify yung importance ng pagbabantay nya....standing guard ang pose nya diba...either sa dulo ng folk art theatre...sa may gloria maris rest..ewan ko kung nandun pa yun....meron dun parang rotunda kung saan umiikot ang kotse sa dulo....o di kaya sa space sa may film center...yung malapit sa gsis bldg gawin park yun for lapu-lapu lang he deserves a park all his own...yung agrifina circle....it was envisioned as a garden covered in glass...na parang bubble...that connects the national museum of the filipino people with dot bldg...na supposedly dapat ibinigay na rin sa national museum...para lahat ng bldg dyan ay national museum na ang may ari

I really hope na ilagay si Lapu Lapu sa Cebu or create an entire park for him, para lalong makita kahalagahan ni Lapu Lapu. First Malay to revolt against Western Invader.

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From the Then and Now thread :)

Rizal Park 1988

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Manila in the '60s (with view of Luneta)

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Luneta in 1938

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Rizal Park in 1989

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sa wakas na kita ko na rin ang otani hotel, mga predecessors ng GET at POTO

^^ oo, sa CCP lang ang alam kong pinakalamalapit sa Luneta na may rentahan ng bikes...

kaso ayoko nang mag-bike ulet doon... naaksidente na ako dati dyan eh... bisperas pa naman ng pasko... :nuts::nuts:

Parang sa CCP complex din yata ang soap box derby noon, sana ibalik kaya lang baka hindi na pansinin ng nga bata ngayon.:lol:

nakakatuwa naman pagmasdan ang mga post mong pictures, Dex:okay:

Maganda talaga yung Luneta noong 70's to 80's na disenyo ni I.P. Santos. I hope gumawa na sila ng bagong disenyo na babagay sa panahon ngayon.

Kadiri ang luneta ngayon pagdating sa astethics :ohno:

if Rizals monument were not located here this would be the residence of Squatter Incorporated protected by the incumbent mayor. SAD that this is the best we can do for our highly visible park.I used to write to Gemma Araneta when she was head of tourism to fix it. DEAF AND DUMB response.

i think we should clamor for that...

Kadiri ang luneta ngayon pagdating sa astethics :ohno:

nakakatakot dumaan especially sa madaling araw. minsan may ma kikitang kang nagse-sex sa tabi tabi. bakit ba hinahayaan silang gawing tulugan ang luneta? sana laging malakas ang ulan para hindi sila makatulog ng maayos:cheers:

if Rizals monument were not located here this would be the residence of Squatter Incorporated protected by the incumbent mayor. SAD that this is the best we can do for our highly visible park.I used to write to Gemma Araneta when she was head of tourism to fix it. DEAF AND DUMB response.Really? What did she say?

Ang ganda talaga ng nakaraan. Bakit ba kulang tau sa creativity to do better. Where are our world class creative talents and engineers... :ohno:

^^ Here's a quote I read once in a magazine...."Filipinos are dreamers. Not doers." :(

Agreed dyan. Talagang dreamer lang tayo at puro salita lang, wala naman ginagawa.

nakakatakot dumaan especially sa madaling araw. minsan may ma kikitang kang nagse-sex sa tabi tabi. bakit ba hinahayaan silang gawing tulugan ang luneta? sana laging malakas ang ulan para hindi sila makatulog ng maayos:cheers:

For real? :lol: Baka naka-drugs lang kaya gan'on. :rofl:

^^ yes, partida may nagpapatrol pa. basta dun sa mga halamanan maraming nangyayaring ganyan. well, im just complaining about their swarming not the sex part :rofl:

^ Oh, naeenjoy mo ang mga SEKSena? :lol:

oo naman and if im in the mood i might even join. KIDDING!!! :rofl:

Really? What did she say?

we're already attending to the indigents and litter.
good job.

oo naman and if im in the mood i might even join. KIDDING!!! :rofl:
haha cool :D :lol:

so bakit k naman ppunta sa luneta ng ganon ka aga.... maganda ba yung babae? hehehehe

^^ i used to jog from intramuros to ccp complex.

And Smell the airpollution? :naughty: :lol:

sana yung mga taga park admin...ay makapag isip ng project na mag upgrade ang park....yung premier park natin....nakakahiya....wag ng tawagin na premier hindi sya premier.......kung sa arina...3rd class...:lol:

Maganda talaga yung Luneta noong 70's to 80's na disenyo ni I.P. Santos. I hope gumawa na sila ng bagong disenyo na babagay sa panahon ngayon.

Sayang I did not see Rizal Park o Luneta in the 70's-80's.
Is it a National Park?
If it is then it is the responsibity of the National Government and
not the City of Manila.





:horse:

napadaan ako kanina sa Luneta and I saw some Korean tourists na nagpipicture sa mga estatwa doon. actually, natatakot ako for them, kasi parang anytime may hahablot ng camera nila. sana dagdagan ng security ang paligid ng park.

Sayang I did not see Rizal Park o Luneta in the 70's-80's.
Is it a National Park?
If it is then it is the responsibity of the National Government and
not the City of Manila.





:horse:


Eto lang ang masasabi ko sa Luneta noon: Safe na safe ka mag-iikot mula umaga hanggang gabi. Hindi ginagawang tulugan ang park at walang mga'palakpak gang' na pakalat-kalat. Bereng-berde ang mga damuhan at malinis pa ang Manila bay. Yung mga serbidora sa mga kainan doon, mga pipi kaya sesenyas ka pag oorder. Ang mga pinoy noon kapag pupunta sa Luneta, mga nakabihis at hindi gusgusin, palibhasa, galing na sila sa pagsisimba kaya maayos ang pananamit. Btw, gumagana pa ba ang Planetarium?

Sayang I did not see Rizal Park o Luneta in the 70's-80's.
Is it a National Park?
If it is then it is the responsibity of the National Government and
not the City of Manila.





:horse:

Both the Intramuros and the Rizal Park aren't under the jurisdiction of the City of Manila.

I personally think they should upgrade the monument of Rizal to something that will really standout. Make it an icon of the Philippines. We don't have a place in our country that gives it a distinct identity. For instance, the Merlion or the Suntec Area in SG, Grand Palace of BKK, Petronas of Malaysia... etc.

It's something worth investing for. Its a tourist area too.

^^they should recreate the original design of the Rizal monument.

Although I think, rebuilding the INTRAMUROS would be the best move.
The Intramuros can be the iconic symbol/ landmark of Manila IMO







:horse:

Ako, gusto kong magkaroon ng monumento ni Andres Bonifacio na kasinlaki nung sa Russia. May hawak naman siyang bolo at bandera. pwedeng ilagay sa Parola compound. Yung buong isla, ay isang malawak na park.

Parang Colossus of Rhodes ang dating.

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^^ Tondo na yun di ba?
Doon na lang ilipat yung WOW Whatta Monument from Rizal Park.

Eto lang ang masasabi ko sa Luneta noon: Safe na safe ka mag-iikot mula umaga hanggang gabi. Hindi ginagawang tulugan ang park at walang mga'palakpak gang' na pakalat-kalat. Bereng-berde ang mga damuhan at malinis pa ang Manila bay. Yung mga serbidora sa mga kainan doon, mga pipi kaya sesenyas ka pag oorder. Ang mga pinoy noon kapag pupunta sa Luneta, mga nakabihis at hindi gusgusin, palibhasa, galing na sila sa pagsisimba kaya maayos ang pananamit. Btw, gumagana pa ba ang Planetarium?Disappointed ako kasi lagi na lang sarado yung Planetarium kapag pumupunta ako. Nakalagay eh under renovation, parang ganun. Basta closed siya for a while. :ohno:

if you were a tourist staying in Makati would you take a taxi to Luneta as part of your excursion?
on your second trip would you include Luneta?

For me, hinde na. Sobrang PANGIT na ng Luneta...

And Smell the airpollution? :naughty: :lol:

Uhm, do we have a choice?:lol:

Eto lang ang masasabi ko sa Luneta noon: Safe na safe ka mag-iikot mula umaga hanggang gabi. Hindi ginagawang tulugan ang park at walang mga'palakpak gang' na pakalat-kalat. Bereng-berde ang mga damuhan at malinis pa ang Manila bay. Yung mga serbidora sa mga kainan doon, mga pipi kaya sesenyas ka pag oorder. Ang mga pinoy noon kapag pupunta sa Luneta, mga nakabihis at hindi gusgusin, palibhasa, galing na sila sa pagsisimba kaya maayos ang pananamit. Btw, gumagana pa ba ang Planetarium?

What Planetarium? Seriously, buhay pa naman sya about 3 years ago nung huli kong punta. Pero creepy na sya.

Ako, gusto kong magkaroon ng monumento ni Andres Bonifacio na kasinlaki nung sa Russia. May hawak naman siyang bolo at bandera. pwedeng ilagay sa Parola compound. Yung buong isla, ay isang malawak na park.

Parang Colossus of Rhodes ang dating.

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That monument is so gay. I can't imagine Andres Bonifacio doing that posing :lol:

Eto lang ang masasabi ko sa Luneta noon: Safe na safe ka mag-iikot mula umaga hanggang gabi. Hindi ginagawang tulugan ang park at walang mga'palakpak gang' na pakalat-kalat. Bereng-berde ang mga damuhan at malinis pa ang Manila bay. Yung mga serbidora sa mga kainan doon, mga pipi kaya sesenyas ka pag oorder. Ang mga pinoy noon kapag pupunta sa Luneta, mga nakabihis at hindi gusgusin, palibhasa, galing na sila sa pagsisimba kaya maayos ang pananamit. Btw, gumagana pa ba ang Planetarium?

Well i think pinaglumaan na rin kasi ang luneta park. I mean new trend is that people normally go to the Malls instead of these type of parks. Isa pa, sa panahon na meron ang manila, sobrang maiinit, mapolusyon, etc..mas mabuti pa mag Mall kesa mag luneta...Unless Educational trip ng History subject ang pakay nmow!!!uuuu
:)

I personally think they should upgrade the monument of Rizal to something that will really standout. Make it an icon of the Philippines. We don't have a place in our country that gives it a distinct identity. For instance, the Merlion or the Suntec Area in SG, Grand Palace of BKK, Petronas of Malaysia... etc.

It's something worth investing for. Its a tourist area too.

I agree. Something that we can be really be proud of. Something iconic and structurally powerful. Look at malacanang..walang ka impact tingan, parang normal na bahay lang, compare it to the White house of US - WOW di ba.
Well i hope..soon magkaroon rin tayo.
Or why not build a new malacanang instead diba, make it big and modern.. or irenovate ang Rizal monu. :)

Uhm, do we have a choice?:lol:



What Planetarium? Seriously, buhay pa naman sya about 3 years ago nung huli kong punta. Pero creepy na sya.



That monument is so gay. I can't imagine Andres Bonifacio doing that posing :lol:


Sabi ko kasinlaki. :)

Inaugural Parade

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FEBC (http://febinfo.org/history/chronological_history.php)

^^ looks like somewhere in Europe. hehe :D

Inaugural Parade

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Wow! That triggered "I Dreamed a Dream" to play in my head...

^^ parang Prague yung setting dati. Beautiful it was.

if you were a tourist staying in Makati would you take a taxi to Luneta as part of your excursion?
on your second trip would you include Luneta?

you don't have to take a cab...take the mrt and lrt instead...there are lots to see in the luneta area..its near intramuros, museums, baywalk and the newly opened manila ocean park....

^^ looks like somewhere in Europe. hehe :D

Wow! That triggered "I Dreamed a Dream" to play in my head...

^^ parang Prague yung setting dati. Beautiful it was.

if could only turn back time:D

parang Vday yung inaugural parade hehehe:colgate:

you don't have to take a cab...take the mrt and lrt instead...there are lots to see in the luneta area..its near intramuros, museums, baywalk and the newly opened manila ocean park....
yes but my point was the Luneta specifically...it is our showpiece "park".
what makes anice park..trees..fountains..green grass...benches..serenity...no litter...not expensive...even the floral clock is gone

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^^magnifico! @Animo:okay:

i love the u/c photo of the monument:)

thanks Animo..the pictures highlight my point....the capital cost of a GOOD LUNETA is minimal.........look at the designs...so why do we have a non-descript Luneta....apathy because the users are massa.........sad story

yes but my point was the Luneta specifically...it is our showpiece "park".
what makes anice park..trees..fountains..green grass...benches..serenity...no litter...not expensive...even the floral clock is gone

well kung luneta park mismo...walang problema ang trees marami dun ang kulang utak....these people who run these parks are clueless...no idea of what a good park should look like ni hindi man lang ata nakatapak sa ibang bansa para magkaroon man lang ng basis for comparison.....yan ang napala natin pinatalsik kasi natin si imeldific...yung lang ang magaling sa mga ganyan....thegood and the byutipul...:lol:

^^ That is so true. No matter how we ridicule Imelda to a point that we make her into a delusional royalty, we need to give credit to her because she did make Manila beautiful back when she was in power.

thanks Animo..the pictures highlight my point....the capital cost of a GOOD LUNETA is minimal.........look at the designs...so why do we have a non-descript Luneta....apathy because the users are massa.........sad story

Yes, it could be minimal. But I can understand that before Luneta park was used by the rich from those who lived in Intramuros. Now, its park goers are those from the lower spectrum of society. It's a contrast on who's in power and how the environment is shaped by those who rule.

Correct me if I am wrong.

The Presidential Inauguration in the Philippines is traditionally held in the Luneta Grandstand?



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^^ It is. It has only been broken by four Presidents: Marcos, Aquino, Estrada and Arroyo.

^^ It is. It has only been broken by four Presidents: Marcos, Aquino, Estrada and Arroyo.

I think Marcos also inagurated at the Grandstand, twice. And yeah, I hope they will do that again next year.

^^ In 1978, Marcos' inauguration was held at the Batasang Pambansa.

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^^ I think the understated beauty of the Rizal monument works. There's no need for a grand and stately monolith to overpower and overwhelm the park's green spaces.

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^^ I think the understated beauty of the Rizal monument works. There's no need for a grand and stately monolith to overpower and overwhelm the park's green spaces.

am not praying for a grand edifice...maging malinis lang at ma-maintain na lang ang existing facilities ok na.....case in point...yung RADO clock...why do you think hindi kinunan sa harap ang clock...dahil sira at hollow blocks na basag ang nag hohold ng kamay ng clock....yung chinese garden at japanese garden....yung mga pond....mga bato at basurang plastik balde at kung ano-ano pa ang laman.... yung mga kiosk parang mga iskwater na barung barong...kaya walang kulang dyan sa luneta kundi UTAK.....

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hindi ka gigil mag post ng super cute na mga pics ha.....:lol::lol::lol: hindi mo napapansin bagal mag load....anyway....forgiven dahil ikaw ay talagang nag sikhay at nagsunog ng kilay para lamang maihatid sa amin mga pics na yan...

Ang galing, Animo! san mo nakukuha yang mga yan?

Rizal Park looks good in the recent pictures posted above.
mas maraming trees and greeneries.




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meron namang improvement na...pero yung rado clock hindi pa rin gawa...yung mga pond ng gardens...madumi pa rin.....at yun mga tindahan na barong barong.....palitan naman sana...ng desenyo...

LUNETA??? i guess kahit anong park yata sa Manila eh ala na pag-asa... most of the design criteria in developing park is it should be income generating... yeah it should but its should be not a priority for a park development. and just like kalbongdad says, the park operators/managers is totally clueless... if mahusay man.. im sure the other reason is kulang sa Budget!!! :bash:

a very common excuse sa Manila development.. mas ok pa nga minsan mga public parks from the provinces eh... as long as walang "governor" (like madam ironbutterfly before) to consolidate the priority of Manila improvements... yang Luneta.. magkaka Mall dyan..... im sure.....:bash:

^^ I beg to differ. Luneta already has established itself in the collective consciousness of the country as a heritage/historical locale. I highly doubt that a mall would take up any space within its confines.

Meron ng SM Sta.mesa dyan. Kaya, meron ng mall within luneta's premises.

^^ Within the vicinity, but not on park property.

Meron ng SM Sta.mesa dyan. Kaya, meron ng mall within luneta's premises.

Err... SM Sta. Mesa, bro is a light year away... :nocrook: You must be referring to SM City Manila which is behind Manila City Hall.

Luneta was really conceptualized by Burnham to be the national mall... But not the type most of us know nowadays. Here's Meriam-Webster for some enlightenment:

Pronunciation: \ˈmȯl, especially British & for 1 ˈmal\
Function: noun
Etymology: short for obsolete pall-mall mallet used in pall-mall
Date: 1644
1: an alley used for pall-mall

2 [The Mall, promenade in London, originally a pall-mall alley] a: a usually public area often set with shade trees and designed as a promenade or as a pedestrian walk b: a usually paved or grassy strip between two roadways

3 a: an urban shopping area featuring a variety of shops surrounding a usually open-air concourse reserved for pedestrian traffic b: a usually large suburban building or group of buildings containing various shops with associated passageways

1. Ilipat kaya nila ang 'condemned' na National Library at ilipat sa lumang building ng GSIS sa city hall, tapos patayuan nila ng isang art deco-style hotel at apartment ang lugar na iyan para may pagkakitaan at pagtustos sa maintenance ng parke.

2. Buksan nila uli ang planetarium at magdagdag sila ng science center sa tabi nito para kumita rin.

3. Tanggalin na nila ang Chinese at Japanese gardens, pagsamahin at gawing Asian Garden, maglagay ng fine dining resto sa loob. May bayad para makapasok sa loob ng Asian Garden na ito para hindi masalaula. Kung kakain, wala nang bayad ang entrance. Pwede ring gawing wedding/party venues.

4. Damihan nila ang mga pulis sa paligid, para matakot yung mga gagawa ng kalokohan.

5. Bawal dapat yung mga natutulog sa parke at yung mga taong-grasa para maging presentable ang National Park natin.

6. Dapat laging may mga activities para puntahan ng mga tao ang lugar. Pagandahin nila ang Concert at the Park.

7. Ayusin nila ang fountain sa gitna at gawin nilang dancing fountain. Pati yung mapa, pagandahin nila.

8. Ibalik ang globe sa Agrifina Circle. pagandahin nila ang Children's Playground.

9. Ibalik ang MATORCO Bus, pero habaan nila ang ruta, mula Intramuros, hanggang Mall of Asia.

10. Ang mga fastfoods gaya ng Jolibee at Mcdo, sa gilid lang ng T.M. Kalaw, hindi dapat sa loob ng park. Ang dapat na pinapayagan lang sa loob ay yung mga kainan na managed ng parke, para mapakinabangan nila ang kikitain nito.

Since nawala na ang sigla sa Baywalk, pwede nila ilipat ito sa Rizal Park. Ang ganda kasi ng lugar, may Ocean Park, may Intramuros, may National Museum at may Museo Pambata. Tapos, buhayin nila uli ang Ermita at ibalik sa dati nitong imahe na 'Tourist Belt' kung saan safe ka maglalakad at mamili ng mga souvenir items at antiques.
:)

^^ Those are actually great ideas on how to rejuvenate and revitalize Rizal Park. :okay:

Condemned na ba ang National Library?? kelan pa? anu naman kaya gagawin dyan? another income generating establishment? just like CCP complex... i just hope Luneta will have control on what kind of architecture will be built there.. just imagine.. and national park with a big logo of MCdonalds or somthing.. nyay!! :bash:

@dvbaicrviser -- nice ideas... i hope these authority figures of Luneta can read the thread here..

1. Ilipat kaya nila ang 'condemned' na National Library at ilipat sa lumang building ng GSIS sa city hall, tapos patayuan nila ng isang art deco-style hotel at apartment ang lugar na iyan para may pagkakitaan at pagtustos sa maintenance ng parke.

I'll come to the defense of the National Library building. There are three reasons why that building should/must never be demolished:

* First, at the time it was built, it was hailed as an architectural masterpiece, and one of the better buildings designed by Filipino architects. It is also one of the few buildings in the City of Manila built in the international style (the others, if I'm right, being the WHO Asia-Pacific office and the PhilamLife building on U.N. Avenue).
* Second, it was built there out of historical considerations relating to Rizal. Rizal wanted to free the Filipino through education, so the library was built there for that purpose by the Jose Rizal National Centennial Commission.
* Third, it is a testament to the bayanihan spirit. The National Library building is the only library in the world built solely out of private donations, and the only one built in veneration of a country's national hero.

There's more history to the National Library than people think. That building deserves to stay in Luneta. :okay:

I'll come to the defense of the National Library building. There are three reasons why that building should/must never be demolished:

* First, at the time it was built, it was hailed as an architectural masterpiece, and one of the better buildings designed by Filipino architects. It is also one of the few buildings in the City of Manila built in the international style (the others, if I'm right, being the WHO Asia-Pacific office and the PhilamLife building on U.N. Avenue).
* Second, it was built there out of historical considerations relating to Rizal. Rizal wanted to free the Filipino through education, so the library was built there for that purpose by the Jose Rizal National Centennial Commission.
* Third, it is a testament to the bayanihan spirit. The National Library building is the only library in the world built solely out of private donations, and the only one built in veneration of a country's national hero.

There's more history to the National Library than people think. That building deserves to stay in Luneta. :okay:

Salamat sa impormasyon. :) Pero andami kasing cracks niyan dahil sa 1990 earthquake. Baka sa susunod na malakas na lindol, gumuho na talaga iyan. Sana pagandahin na lang nila ang library lalo na ang sistema nito dahil napaglumaan na talaga. Baka pwedeng maglagay ng cafe sa loob para maengganyo ang mga taong pumunta dito.

^^ There's a cafeteria on the fifth floor.

I would agree though that the building needs a major overhaul. For one, they should replace the 40-year-old elevator which still uses a ceiling fan for ventilation!

sana may magagaling tau na architects who specialized in building preservation, sayang kasi...

does any one knows cno nag design? ive been there twice sa thesis research.. its really a master piece... i like the stair detail

^^ Hexagon Associated Architects. The names are somewhere in my records.

Hindi ko mapatawad yung mga gansa. Equal pa talaga ang mga distansya. :bash:

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Hindi ko mapatawad yung mga gansa. Equal pa talaga ang mga distansya. :bash:

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Baka sa susunod ganito na ang ilagay nila... :ohno:

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Hmmm...Kaya pala ganyan din kulay ng mga classical buildings...Binagay lang pala!:bash: Ang layo talaga sa conception nito...:ohno: I'm not against having theme parks for the kids pero gawin ba naman ang buong Luneta? Sheeez!!!

^^ ano ba yan sobrang tacky. i wouldn't be surprised pag may nakita akong mga giant butterflies dyan.

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Absolutely beautiful!! :banana: Postcard tranquility! :cheers: Love those trees!! :okay:

Hindi ko mapatawad yung mga gansa. Equal pa talaga ang mga distansya. :bash:

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almost everything in this city/country is jologly-designed. :lol: i think they should hire SSCers are designers. hehe

o ayan, naka imbento pa ako ng word hehe

^^ OMG! Those swans certainly take the cake! :nuts: Di na nga nag-iisip... basta na lang! :bash:

^^ Oh, c'mon....y'all know we love kitschy things. ;)




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:lol: certainly take and eat the cake

^^ Oh, c'mon....y'all know we love kitschy things. ;)

:lol:

Kitchie Nadal, pwede pa! Hehe. But those swans.... :doh:

And I still remember somebody posted here a picture of those carabaos and maiden figures around the Metropolitan Theater. Tacky! :down:

Not to mention those tarpaulin banners we see plastered everywhere! And it's not even election season yet officially!

jusko po patawarin na mga gansa... parang naka formation in salute to jose rizal......

ganyan talaga pag basta pinabid ang landscaping Project.. kung sino pinaka mura.. at pinaka makulay panalo!!! buti na lang walang ibon na mahahaba ang paa.. na naka tayo sa isang paa lang!! "stork manong!!!"

Does anyone know what's the itinerary/schedule for Independence Day activities (like parade) at the Quirino Grandstand?

^^ The parade was cancelled in favor of a job fair. :lol:

Oh? Lame. :p

^^ It was announced months ago, actually. :colgate:

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^ parang kuha nung WWII yung last pic ah? :D

Oo nga no :lol:

^^ hindi.... kuha yan noon spanish-american war..nilagyan ko lang ng kulay:nuts:

sa totoo lang..5 years ago yan.

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Maligayang Ika-148 Na Kaarawan José Protasio Rizal Mercado y Alonso Realonda

Aerial View of Rizal Park and Ermita in the 1970s
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^^ Looks kinda sparse back then.

Wow...pansinin nyo, Lahat ng buildings ay white! Back then talagang may batas na dapat isa lang ang kulay ng building, ngayon wala na. :ohno:

Sana they never allowed really tall skyscrapers near Luneta. Nasira, IMO, ang place when those tall skyscrapers sprouting like mad sa tabi nito..

EDIT: From the looks of it, that photo was taken in 1950's since wala pa un agrifina globe fountain at mukhang bago pa un neoclassical buildings sa tabi ng globe fountain.

pero mukhag syang dun sa washington dc, openn green space

Sana they never allowed really tall skyscrapers near Luneta. Nasira, IMO, ang place when those tall skyscrapers sprouting like mad sa tabi nito.

It isn't so bad if Rizal Park was hedged-in by skyscrapers, it'll look like NYC's Central Park (see below).

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It isn't so bad it Rizal Park was hedged-in by skyscrapers, it'll look like NYC's Central Park (see below).

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...Err, iba kasi ang NYC Central Park...Parang oasis in the middle of Manhattan's urban jungle at siyam na beses o higit pa ang laki nito sa Luneta kung hindi ako nagkakamali...Imagine nyo na lang ang "The mall" ng D.C. kung ito'y napapaligiran din ng matatayog na mga gusali. Mejo di kaayaayang tingnan. Kaya meron silang batas o building code doon na dapat di hihigit sa U.S. Capitol at at Washington Monument ang taas ng mga gusali doon at dapat classical or European ang desenyo. Ang "The mall" kasi ang pinagkunan sa desenyo ng Luneta ni Burham.

Ito po ang "The Mall":
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may mga taong grasa kaya sa mall nila

may mga taong grasa kaya sa mall nila

Siguro ang dapat na tanong jan ay kung meron din ba silang mga gansa sa mall nila..:lol::lol::lol:

Wow...pansinin nyo, Lahat ng buildings ay white! Back then talagang may batas na dapat isa lang ang kulay ng building, ngayon wala na. :ohno:

Sana they never allowed really tall skyscrapers near Luneta. Nasira, IMO, ang place when those tall skyscrapers sprouting like mad sa tabi nito..

EDIT: From the looks of it, that photo was taken in 1950's since wala pa un agrifina globe fountain at mukhang bago pa un neoclassical buildings sa tabi ng globe fountain.

Agree ako na hindi dapat my mga tall structures near Luneta like the mall in D.C. Ang pic ay kinunan noong 60's na nang denevelop nila ang Luneta as is it today and as part of it's redevelopment envisioned earlier by Burnham. Yung globe fountain ay anjan na di nga lang nasali sa pic pero wala pa ang skating rink. Looking at the pic, katatapos lang ng auditorium at by this time sinisimulan na rin ang paggawa ng Philippine relief map na nasa bandang kaliwa ng pic na di nasali. Wala pa rin dito ang Japanese garden na late addition at maliliit pa ang mga puno dito. Oh, ah...di pala kasama ang mga gansa sa redevelopment.:nuts:

^^ The picture was definitely taken after 1961 as the National Library was already built.

^^ The picture was definitely taken after 1961 as the National Library was already built.

Tama po kayo at hindi 70's.:)

My father William Schaare built ALL the fountains in Luneta beginning around 1969 up to early 70s. It was managed by the late Ka Doroy Valencia. Super linis and very safe. In those days, you're not baduy or low class when you go to Luneta Park.

The fountains were musically dancing fountains. I will post some pics when I find them. It was a popular tourist spot in the Philippines and very well known around the world. When the Hong Kong government saw the Luneta Park Fountains, nagpagawa din sila sa amin ng fountain. The original Hong Kong City Hall fountains were built by Filipinos in the early 70s! We also submitted fountain designs for the Hong Kong government to implement.

When the next administration took over Luneta Park management, Industron (the company that built and maintained the fountains) were told to stop maintenance. That was the beginning of the end of those fountains.
Up to now it is now maintained under the national government and not the City of Manila. During the Ramos administration, they hired some Indian company to rehabilitate the Filipino-built fountain. I heard it was operational for only a few months.

Recently, we were told that they are totally helpless because they have no budget to rehabilitate the fountain. How sad it is to see them go to waste.:ohno:

^^ Isn't your father also the inventor of Industron thermal waste converter? Your uncle Robert Schaare and your dad was active in putting up fountains in Cebu a couple of years ago. :D

Your photos would be appreciated. Daghang salamat! Danke! :)

^^ Isn't your father also the inventor of Industron thermal waste converter? Your uncle Robert Schaare and your dad was active in putting up fountains in Cebu a couple of years ago. :D

Your photos would be appreciated. Daghang salamat! Danke! :)

You got that right! Wow! You know my dad and uncle? They are both still very active. I just got bitten by the family fountain bug and that's why I am now even more active into fountains. Our fountains are funding my dad's inventions. So I try to let him enjoy his research and development work.

I don't know if I'm allowed to post here a link to our latest dancing fountain which would have been perfect if we had something like it at the Luneta Park.

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You got that right! Wow! You know my dad and uncle? They are both still very active. I just got bitten by the family fountain bug and that's why I am now even more active into fountains. Our fountains are funding my dad's inventions. So I try to let him enjoy his research and development work.

I don't know if I'm allowed to post here a link to our latest dancing fountain which would have been perfect if we had something like it at the Luneta Park.


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wow...cool dad......hats off from kalbongdad

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@ 3:00 makikita yung Rizal Park fountain minus the cloned gansa. Ang ganda pa ng fountain noon. :)

Wow, Ganda ng Luneta nuon at may kalapati pa! Ang pinaka noticable sa buong video ay... MAY BEACHFRONT pa ang shore ng Manila bay! Seing that makes me seriously cry :cry: !

Naalala ko pa dati, kapag may hika o mahina ang baga ng bata, dinadala sa Luneta, malapit sa dagat para sumagap ng hangin. Ngayon, baka TB ang makuha mo sa sobrang polusyon.

Teka, nakatayo parin ba yung City Gallery, nasa tabi ng Manila Hotel. Marami ring artists ang natuto dyan ng pagpipinta noon.

bakit ganun mas maganda pa yung lunet dati ata well maintained d ba dapat habang tumatagal lalo dapat gumaganda at lumilinis kasi nagbago naman financial and economic status ng country natin d b?

sana yung mga taga park admin...ay makapag isip ng project na mag upgrade ang park....yung premier park natin....nakakahiya....wag ng tawagin na premier hindi sya premier.......kung sa arina...3rd class...:lol:

^^Magandang ilagay dyan ay motel. Para doon na lang sila mag tsuktsakan. :lol::lol: O kaya Gwapotel.. :lol::lol:

hindi ka gigil mag post ng super cute na mga pics ha.....:lol::lol::lol: hindi mo napapansin bagal mag load....anyway....forgiven dahil ikaw ay talagang nag sikhay at nagsunog ng kilay para lamang maihatid sa amin mga pics na yan...

^^Nagrereklamo ka at mabibigat yung mga picture. Nilagay mo naman sa quote mo.. :nuts::lol:

You got that right! Wow! You know my dad and uncle? They are both still very active. I just got bitten by the family fountain bug and that's why I am now even more active into fountains. Our fountains are funding my dad's inventions. So I try to let him enjoy his research and development work.



I don't know them personally but just some family acquaintances. That's nice to hear so that you can keep it as a family legacy. Your uncle still manages the company in Cebu? Tough job being VP and all. :D

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Can the City of Manila and the IA (if they have jurisdiction) put this kind of park that we HAD before??

^^ naabutan ko pa yang clock na yan. :D

ano na ba itsura ngayon nyan? ssayang d na preserve

^^ hindi b sa neverland ranch ni MJ yan? hekhekhek :colgate:

ano na ba itsura ngayon nyan? ssayang d na preserve

pangit na.. ive seen a pic of that botanical clock but it doesnt look like it was before.. sayang nga..:ohno:

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Can the City of Manila and the IA (if they have jurisdiction) put this kind of park that we HAD before??

OMFG! Had Manila really have this before?! Sayang. Tsk. Hindi man lang na-preserve. :cry:

of course its gone.
You are asking a population who still "run" a car to warm up the engine for about 15 minutes everyday, who still sleep and sit in a car with the aircon on for at least 2 hours inside a semi enclosed car park, who think something 50 years old is an antique, who use asphalt and tar to fill in holes in our concrete roads, spend on pedestrian lights (like at the Fort) where there is no value to the pedestrian etc etc..of course its gone..... we are the most educated but uneducated people in the world.

OMFG! Had Manila really have this before?! Sayang. Tsk. Hindi man lang na-preserve. :cry:

Oh man, I remember that clock!! Brings back a lot of memories...I think there used to be a playground nearby, too!

why ang bantay ni jose rizal ay mga securtiy guards ng lang,

really? san na yung mga marines? baka kinulang sa mindanao

Luneta and Quirino Grandstand

1938
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2000s (pre Manila Ocean Park)
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OMFG! Had Manila really have this before?! Sayang. Tsk. Hindi man lang na-preserve. :cry:
naabutan ko pa yan ah...most of my aunts had also pics of this section of luneta

http://www.everyculture.com/images/ctc_03_img0876.jpg

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the pic is really abosolutely beautiful...baki ngayon hindi na ganyan ang view?

;40464550']Luneta and Quirino Grandstand
2000s (pre Manila Ocean Park)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/221/523424731_facc735b72_o.jpg
by Storm Crypt (http://www.flickr.com/photos/storm-crypt/)



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Dapat siguro tanggalin na nila ang pier diyan at ilipat nila sa bandang norte o North Harbor. Gawin nilang isang world-class marina iyan. Isa pa, dapat bawiin na rin ang Manila Hotel kay Emilio Yap pag pinagpilitan niya ang kabaduyan na ginagawa niya sa hotel. Pwede rin nilang gawing hotel yung lumang building ng Custom. Tapos may promenade at mga restaurants, mas magandang version ng Baywalk. At dapat yung Rizal Park, ibalik sa dati nitong disenyo na elegante at hindi chopsuey na gaya ngayon. :)

Anybody heard about the new Rizal park in Australia?

Anybody heard about the new Rizal park in Australia?

yup it was in the news recently....i think they're in the process of building it...although sa sydney meron akong nadaanan na street na meron bust ni jose rizal....nde ko lang matandaan ang street an yun....

Ewan ko lang kung may maga-agree sa akin but I am thinking of demolishing the Quirino Grandstand and relocating the MOP to another place (perhaps on the south harbor to stimulate the place). The original plan was to have a good view of the bay from Luneta, and somehow I want to revive it. Oh well... libre lang mangarap :D

Ewan ko lang kung may maga-agree sa akin but I am thinking of demolishing the Quirino Grandstand and relocating the MOP to another place (perhaps on the south harbor to stimulate the place). The original plan was to have a good view of the bay from Luneta, and somehow I want to revive it. Oh well... libre lang mangarap :D

BTW I am wondering why the Manila Ocean Park is built on that site beside the Quirino Grandstand / Rizal Park. Dapat sa bandang Mall of Asia siya tinayo noon.

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Yep, too sad about what has happened to this former historic heart of mid-20th century Manila: thanks to whomever allowed the Ocean Park monstrosity to block the rest of Luneta from the seafront, there's little of the environmental ambience originally intended in Daniel Burnham's layout. As for the historic Manila Hotel, it has sunken to the level of tacky tenement, cheapened more by the docking of that hideous floating hotel just by its seawall. :ohno:

That goes to show how Manila is very unorganized. :yes: But let's be content at least businesses are still sprouting in that area. In the future, when our country is already first world, it would be easier to organize everything.

That goes to show how Manila is very unorganized. :yes: But let's be content at least businesses are still sprouting in that area. In the future, when our country is already first world, it would be easier to organize everything.

For sure--it is promising to see signs of economic viability amid what may easily degenerate into an inner-city slum. I am hopeful that one day we can coordinate efforts in both private and government sectors at making large-scale improvements that fit well to the unique identity of the location.

^^ oo nga napansin ko...
dapat nga po sa may MOA para maraming tao..
then one more....

in the BNP thread.. one posts that BNP is near MOA... then dapat tlaga dun itinayo....

^^ oo nga napansin ko...
dapat nga po sa may MOA para maraming tao..
then one more....

in the BNP thread.. one posts that BNP is near MOA... then dapat tlaga dun itinayo....

Huwag ka mag-alala, may version ang E-city ng Ocean park at Asia's Largest Oceanarium pa ito.

Anyway, Dapat ibalik na sa jurisdiction ng maynila yung Luneta Park. :bash:

^^No way. OK na yung itsura ng Rizal Park ngayon despite some flaws. Kung ita-transfer sa Manila na walang funds eh for sure, mas bubulok pa yan.

^^Tapos incompetent pa yung Mayor sa Manila haikz! talagang kawawa ang Luneta pag ganun.

Nuong nasa jurisdiction pa ng Maynila ang Luneta Park under Lim Administration, Buhay pa ang skating circle rink, Yung Clock na may flowers at sumasayaw na fountains tuwing gabi. :)

^^Where did you get your info?

Rizal Park has been in the jurisdiction of National Parks Development Committee (NPDC) since the 1960's by virtue of EO no. 69. Alfredo Lim is not the mayor of Manila at that time, isn't he?

^^Where did you get your info?

Rizal Park has been in the jurisdiction of National Parks Development Committee (NPDC) since the 1960's by virtue of EO no. 69. Alfredo Lim is not the mayor of Manila at that time, isn't he?

Talaga? kasi during his administration bago ngayon. May hilera ng flag ang Maynila sa Luneta Park. Anyway, NPDC pa din ba ang namamahala sa Rizal Park? kung ganoon hindi sila consistent sa pangagalaga ng napakagandang Rizal Park.

Thanks din sa correction.

OMFG! Had Manila really have this before?! Sayang. Tsk. Hindi man lang na-preserve. :cry:

Talaga? Wala na yuong Giant ground clock sa Luneta?? Aiii Naku!!! sayang yuon.....

To tell you guys, this is the state of our beloved Flower clock today:

Before:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3475/3710887159_9bcda3f2f4.jpg

After:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/28907540@N02/3788199696/in/photostream/
Taken August 1, 2009
http://www.flickr.com/photos/28907540@N02/3787384833/in/photostream/

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http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2672/3787384833_d4e6a14b70.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3566/3788199696_1930282177.jpg

Tinanong ko yung guard malapit sa flower clock sabi nya last year pa raw tinaggal yung kamay ng relo kasi daw mahal pa-maintain nun. Galing pa raw sa Germany. Pero sana man lang hinayaan lng muna nila yung kamay. Ngayon wala ng kwenta ang nakalagay sa kanya. :ohno:

^^kaawa-awa naman ang naging kapalaran ng flower clock natin:ohno:

kinukulang na ba sa pondo ang NPDC? baka isa-isa na lamang mawala ang mga elementong nagpapaganda sa Luneta

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh107/emsinson/canadajuly2008/IMG_4977.jpg

lahat naman talgang nasisira at nabubulok kung hindi ito ime-maintain ng mahusay!
hindi pera ang problema yung maling priority ng Parks Dept. ang mali.

I think the private sector should play a more active role to teach the state how it can be properly done. IMO





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Masyado nang masukal ang Rizal Park. Malapit nang matulad sa Arroceros Park sa kapal ng mga puno.

kinukulang na ba sa pondo ang NPDC? baka isa-isa na lamang mawala ang mga elementong nagpapaganda sa Luneta

The National Parks Development Committee received 164.1 million pesos in the 2009 budget.

That budget is small considering that NPDC is not only maintaining Rizal Park, it also maintains Paco Park, Mabini Shrine, Pook ni Maria Makiling and Plaza Olivia De Salamanca, which is about 60.5 hectares. Most of the funds go to the salary of NPDC personnel.

Look at this project http://www.nationalparks.ph/bidding.htm, maintenance of pavement and drainage lateral line already costs Php10M, and that's of Rizal Park alone.

sayang talaga yung flower clock natin...sana talaga ibalik nila yun kasi yun naman original nakalagay ehh..big lost to the park talaga

^^Ang masasabi ko lang, hindi naman siguro mahirap i-maintain yung andiyan na since Imelda Marcos' time. And I don't think it would cost that much. Although the budget is small, I think they could do something about it. Heck, they even added "improvements" that aren't really necessary and worse, even tacky. Case in point, those ridiculously looking concrete swan around the man-made lake. And why are those busts added in the park. That is supposed to be Rizal Park, not a park for all heroes. And worst of all, Lapu-Lapu's statue competes with that of Rizal's monument on its own park.

http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af217/cris46/100_8445.jpg


http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af217/cris46/100_8446.jpg


http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af217/cris46/100_8447.jpg

Lapu Lapu monument on the east side of Rizal Park in between the old Dept of Finance bldg and Dept of Agriculture bldg.

thanks for the photos. Lapu Lapu looks like he is waiting for the ferry to Mactan!





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Former President Cory Aquino's Funeral procession
05 August 2009
12:30pm

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^^ lapu lapu should'nt be there.. the statue should be transfered to CEBU! that park is for Rizal.does that statue attracts tourist? i mean if that statue would be cebu that has a potential being a known landmark.

^^I agree! Let Lapu Lapu go home to Mactan where is belongs!





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Hey guys, I recently visited the Philippines from the US for 3 weeks in July and on the last day my cousins took me to visit Rizal Park before going home. Here are a few of the shots i took:

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r192/beanhead4529/DSC09694.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r192/beanhead4529/DSC09695.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r192/beanhead4529/DSC09696.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r192/beanhead4529/DSC09697.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r192/beanhead4529/DSC09700.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r192/beanhead4529/DSC09702.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r192/beanhead4529/DSC09704.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r192/beanhead4529/DSC09716.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r192/beanhead4529/DSC09724.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r192/beanhead4529/DSC09726.jpg

For my first visit to the park, I was very impressed. And of course, the Manila Bay sunset was amazing too!

thanks for sharing the photos!






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^^I agree! Let Lapu Lapu go home to Mactan where is belongs!

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Since Lapu Lapu is the first Filipino hero, it is just fitting that a Monument of him is located in Manila. I reckoned Rizal Park should be renamed as Heroes Park or revert back to it's old name of Bagumbayan or Luneta, so that a monument of Andres Bonifacio can be built there also. I also believe that Andres Bonifacio should be the National Hero and not Rizal which is an American colonial government idea.

Or relocate the Lapu Lapu monument to Jolo, Sulu since I guess there is already a Lapu Lapu monument in Lapu Lapu City / Mactan island.

The Department of Tourism or the National Historical Commission should put a Lapu Lapu monument in
Sulu.


Lapu-Lapu and the battle of Mactan

WE have honored the vanquished but not the victor. We have enshrined in our annals our defeats but not our victories. One example is the historic battle of Mactan and Raha Lapu-Lapu, 483 years ago.

Four hundred eighty-three years ago, the battle of Mactan was fought between the Spanish forces led by Magellan and the native forces led by Lapu-Lapu. The battle was historic in many ways. It was the first battle in recorded Philippine history where the Filipinos won in defense of their freedom and sovereignty. Magellan, the famous conquistador and explorer, was killed and his forces were defeated, thus belying the Spanish claim of invincibility. Lapu-Lapus victory showed that a battle can be won even with inferior arms through use of superior tactics and strategy.

Our problem in this historic events is Lapu-Lapus true identity. He remains unknown to the Filipino people. Pigafettas account describing Lapu-Lapu as the chief of Mactan is inadequate.

One Sulu oral history provides many interesting details about Lapu-Lapu. He was called Iliji Rajiki (rajiki a minor raja), a Muslim Tausug, an expert in Silatan (Tausug martial art of swordsmanship), and a warrior of the sultan of Sulu. Mactan was the seat of the kingdom and he was the Sultans representative ruler in the Visayas area.

The battle of Mactan should be commemorated every year and our Muslim brothers should be proud that the first hero of the Filipino people is a Muslim a Tausug the famous fierce defender of freedom and sovereignty.

http://www.articlearchives.com/humanities-social-science/history/693329-1.html

The budget is not enough to maintain our parks. If we would transform Rizal Park to Heroes' Park, that would mean additional statues of other heroes. For those statues which are already standing elsewhere, we still have to finance their transfer and reinstallation. What monument would the uniformed guards guard? Would it be all or Rizal's only, or wala na. It is a known tradition.

I'm still for the resurrection of the globe fountain. Lapu-Lapu's monument is dull. Lapu-Lapu deserves a more fitting environment. Not in Rizal Park.

para mas mamaintain yung Rizal Park kelngan mag-generate ng funds. kung magtayo kaya sila ng mga restaurants sa paligid ng park ala-BHS or serendra. yung makukuhang pera sa mga renta ay gagamitin sa pgpapagana ng Luneta. gawing mas sosi at high-class yung lugar. this will give a new meaning to "date sa Luneta".

^^ lapu lapu should'nt be there.. the statue should be transfered to CEBU! that park is for Rizal.does that statue attracts tourist? i mean if that statue would be cebu that has a potential being a known landmark.

mas malaki pa ang statue ni lapu lapu dun sa rizal park...
baka mamaya maging lapu lapu park na yung area na yun ah. :lol:

Rizal Park should remain dedicated only to José Protasio Rizal Mercado y Alonso Realonda!





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^^ i agree! thats why its called rizal park.. not rizal/lapu lapu park

Hey guys, I recently visited the Philippines from the US for 3 weeks in July and on the last day my cousins took me to visit Rizal Park before going home. Here are a few of the shots i took:

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r192/beanhead4529/DSC09694.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r192/beanhead4529/DSC09695.jpg

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For my first visit to the park, I was very impressed. And of course, the Manila Bay sunset was amazing too!

thanks for sharing...

To tell you guys, this is the state of our beloved Flower clock today:

Before:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3475/3710887159_9bcda3f2f4.jpg

After:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/28907540@N02/3788199696/in/photostream/
Taken August 1, 2009
http://www.flickr.com/photos/28907540@N02/3787384833/in/photostream/

If not displayed please follow this:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2672/3787384833_d4e6a14b70.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3566/3788199696_1930282177.jpg

Tinanong ko yung guard malapit sa flower clock sabi nya last year pa raw tinaggal yung kamay ng relo kasi daw mahal pa-maintain nun. Galing pa raw sa Germany. Pero sana man lang hinayaan lng muna nila yung kamay. Ngayon wala ng kwenta ang nakalagay sa kanya. :ohno:

buti nga ngayon ganyan an ang hitsura nyan....dati ang kamay ng relo ay nakapatong da biyak na hollow blocks and to think na premier park ito....i e-mailed the npdc and other related agencies kaya siguro nabago na....also napalitan na rin ang mga tindahan na mga mukhang iskawter na barung barong...na nagtitinda ng kung ano-ano...meron na rin improvement ang park....

I loved the clock. I had a picture with this in the background when I was a freshman in college. We could afford the maintenance before, why can't we now? Maybe the reason why they put Lapu-Lapu at the center of Agripina Circle was to avoid maintenance costs that the fountain globe incurred once lit with water splashing from its holes.

I like the idea of having small café and other informal restaurants scattered all over the park offering a range of hot meals and made-to-order sandwiches.

Drinking ice tea and reading a book alfresco.




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