But in a letter to the City of Perth, the PTA said that there was little support for the clock proposal, and that the $1 million set aside for it would be better spent on public artworks within the new City Square development.

City of Perth planning and development director Peter Monks said that proposal had more merit.

I 100% agree with this.

Back in 2003 there were fewer projects in the vicinity, so there was a better case for building a clock tower. Less so now. We have sculptures being constructed in the Forrest Place and at cathedral... it makes sense to spread the public artworks across the city centre.

Would love to know who they were polling to discover there was "little support" for the project. The guys in accounting, maybe?

lol I didn't realise it was 2003. If they didn't manage to put it up in 7 years I say it's not a huge travesty. very pathetic though.
I still don't get how they can scrap something that has been supposedly being built for years. or was that all bshit?

It obviously was all Bull.... Ant this totally doesnt suprise me at all!
Its always the things that would standout and be a memorable thing that visitors could talk about or associate with Perth- instead we will end up with expensive crap "Public Art' that almost every1 will think is ... wel... shit!

Would love to know who they were polling to discover there was "little support" for the project. The guys in accounting, maybe?

hey i'm sure you know when someone says there's little support for something, 9 times out of ten his pulling it out of his arse.
Along the lines of 'a study has found...', 'research suggests...', 'experts claim....'

just spoke to the voice re. atomic clock. Apparently smith sculptures are devastated.

Need to find a render of the clock for them. Can anyone help?

just spoke to the voice re. atomic clock. Apparently smith sculptures are devastated.

Need to find a render of the clock for them. Can anyone help?

here http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=24068288&postcount=10

how can they be devastated? If they've already made it then I'm sure they'll have to be paid if it's not even made and they've been fuckin around for all these years then bad luck to them

[QUOTE=Dilaz89;59833531]just spoke to the voice re. atomic clock. Apparently smith sculptures are devastated.

EDIT: deleted my above reply.
as beaten by Samboy when typing my post back.

There was a render on this site, but the link doesn't work anymore...
http://www.smithsculptors.com/SapphireClockTowerDayAAA.gif

i just wrote an email to the Kalamunda Shire president, asking him to get in contact with the creators of the atomic clock, to see if they can get it installed in the kalamunda town centre. hopefully something comes from it.

a million dollar art intallation in kala, that's outrageous!

just spoke to the voice re. atomic clock. Apparently smith sculptures are devastated.

EDIT: deleted my above reply.
as beaten by Samboy when typing my post back.

There was a render on this site, but the link doesn't work anymore...
http://www.smithsculptors.com/SapphireClockTowerDayAAA.gif

You mean here http://www.smithsculptors.com/The%20Sapphire%20Atomic%20Clock%20Tower%20_%20Smith%20Sculptors_Web_Image.jpg ?

http://www.smithsculptors.com/The%20Sapphire%20Atomic%20Clock%20Tower%20_%20Smith%20Sculptors_Web_Image.jpg

me and lisa are gonna save the day here :)

thanks ipggi.

hey dilaz, serious question. Do you know how much work has already been completed on this? if any?

Trying to find that out right now.

Serious question is serious.

hurry up the interwebz is serious business

Hey, just found this Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/group.php?gid=136153236408516&ref=mf

Lisa Scaffidi has voiced her support of the group on the wall!!! Hopefully something will come of this.

^^ good find ekul, that group just needs way more than 114 members.. :p



You mean here http://www.smithsculptors.com/The%20Sapphire%20Atomic%20Clock%20Tower%20_%20Smith%20Sculptors_Web_Image.jpg ?

http://www.smithsculptors.com/The%20Sapphire%20Atomic%20Clock%20Tower%20_%20Smith%20Sculptors_Web_Image.jpg

yes that is the one, alas someone mentioned in the other thread that that company removed the render already and had trouble finding it again... :lol: all good now I guess, now that you've found it...

^^ good find ekul, that group just needs way more than 114 members.. :p

It's gone up, I joined it yesterday and there were only 34 :)

yes that is the one, alas someone mentioned in the other thread that that company removed the render already and had trouble finding it again... :lol: all good now I guess, now that you've found it...

It was on their front page :) http://www.smithsculptors.com

Meh I don't see what the big deal is. That spiral shell looking sculpture in front of the Esplanade train station cost $250,000 from memory and it looks great. A sapphire phallus for $1,000,000? Could buy 4 art installations elsewhere in the city, which according to that article: thats exactly what they intend to do with the money.

Why all the fuss?

Because this one is a bit different. Why keep going for the same static things? This is 14m high. It serves a purpose and it interacts with the area around it through lights and sounds in the pavement surrounding it.

Meh I don't see what the big deal is. That spiral shell looking sculpture in front of the Esplanade train station cost $250,000 from memory and it looks great. A sapphire phallus for $1,000,000? Could buy 4 art installations elsewhere in the city, which according to that article: thats exactly what they intend to do with the money.

Why all the fuss?

N I M B Y

Because this one is a bit different. Why keep going for the same static things? This is 14m high. It serves a purpose and it interacts with the area around it through lights and sounds in the pavement surrounding it.

Thats pretty cool I spose.

N I M B Y

Hahaha, bah humbug ;)

after reading tha concept... i want it even more!

while they're at it, they can in case tha train portal in a massive angular/box structure that looks like it's half buried...

We still don't know whether or not it's been made do we? If it has, it will be such a waste not to use it. It will go great in the new cultural centre or even replace the Forrest chase green blob. I'm still in two minds over that one.

Meh I don't see what the big deal is. That spiral shell looking sculpture in front of the Esplanade train station cost $250,000 from memory and it looks great. A sapphire phallus for $1,000,000? Could buy 4 art installations elsewhere in the city, which according to that article: thats exactly what they intend to do with the money.

Why all the fuss?

Consider it's size, presence and location.

Like Crave, read the concept on the Smith's website. It's a fantastic piece of art.

hey dilaz,

can i suggest an online petition so it doesn't die off? http://www.gopetition.com.au/

also, are there any online petitions where you click your support and an email goes pta/epra etc... ???

i suspect tha facebook group won't get much attention, whereas emails direct to their offices would send tha message loud and clear...

Meh I don't see what the big deal is. That spiral shell looking sculpture in front of the Esplanade train station cost $250,000 from memory and it looks great. A sapphire phallus for $1,000,000? Could buy 4 art installations elsewhere in the city, which according to that article: thats exactly what they intend to do with the money.

Why all the fuss?

I agree with you, whats the big deal... I think it looks ugly and outdated!!

The 'hole' (corrugated crap) that's been left behind is uglier though.

Before we go on a petition to 'save' it I think it's better to find out first whether there's anything to save. If it's just pie in the sky stuff that the sculptors couldn't complete (or even start) all these years I doubt it's worth saving. On the other hand if it's already finished then the money's already spent so it won't be going in the bin anyway.

Or if the sculptors have been able to complete it but the money hasn't been flowing..

The 'hole' (corrugated crap) that's been left behind is uglier though.

Before we go on a petition to 'save' it I think it's better to find out first whether there's anything to save. If it's just pie in the sky stuff that the sculptors couldn't complete (or even start) all these years I doubt it's worth saving. On the other hand if it's already finished then the money's already spent so it won't be going in the bin anyway.

by tha sounds of things tha sculptors haven't made it... i'd like to know why smith's sculptors haven't pushed on tha agenda, until now that it's been canned... too many unexplained factors...

Hopefully some details will come through at the next FP meeting.

We will talk about it at tuesdays meeting.

Not really a fan of petitions personally. We'll see.

We will talk about it at tuesdays meeting.

Not really a fan of petitions personally. We'll see.

Petitions are an utter waste of time. They achieve nothing.

It's so funny when you see them tapped to shop counters or in fuel stations. Sanj would know all about that.

WA Today reckon "it's not dead yet" and might even get bigger!

http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/its-not-over-yet--sapphire-clock-tower-battle-heats-up-20100709-103f1.html

It's not over yet - sapphire clock tower battle heats up
CHALPAT SONTI
July 12, 2010 - 6:40AM

A monument to bling for the Perth CBD that looked to be on its last legs just a week ago may yet get a reprieve - and it could be even bigger.

The 14.5metre-high sapphire clock tower - a $1 million multi-coloured construction linked to the world's most accurate clock - was first mooted in 2003 and was to have been a centrepiece of the New MetroRail project.

But the Public Transport Authority recently informed the City of Perth that there was little support for the proposal - which was to be built on Wellington Street, in front of the Horseshoe Bridge - with the money better set aside for public artworks within the new City Square development.

The city's planners agreed, but its planning committee rejected the idea at its meeting last week.

Instead it proposed the clock be built in a "prominent position" within the Perth City Link project.

That decision looks set to be ratified by the full council at a meeting tomorrow night, with all five councillors at the planning committee voting for it, while Lord Mayor Lisa Scaffidi has also backed retaining the clock.

Committee chairwoman Judy McEvoy said that a presentation by the project's proponents had influenced the committee to reject the planning department's recommendations.

"This is something that was seven years in the making," she said.

"A lot of councillors weren't around seven years ago so weren't aware of it.There's a lot of public support out there for this and why has it taken the PTA this long to decide it's not a good idea.

"It looks like it's a decision made by bureaucrats. Who have they spoken to. It's a little bit sad when we could have something quite different. Imagine the countdown on New Year's Eve.

"Let's hope we see a little bit of sense. The (money) isn't going to buy a lot of public art anyway."

The technology-showcasing project could also help the state's bid for a slice of one of the world's most ambitious telescope projects, the $2.5 billion Square Kilometre Array, Ms McEvoy said.

"There's a bigger picture here. We're only one of a few bodies that this has to go through but we will hopefully make it very definite we are against pulling funding for it."

The tower was to be linked by landline to the atomic clock - the world's most accurate - developed by the UWA physics department.

It is understood the PTA would still consider the clock for the City Square art project.

Husband-and-wife sculptors Charles Smith and Joan Walsh-Smith, who have developed several concept images of the clock, said on their website that relocating the clock to City Square "opens up a whole new perspective on the original concept".

"Given that the new location would have magnificent sightlines, particularly all the way down William Street to the Swan River, the tower would now need to be enlarged to approximately 20 metres in height, in order to fully engage and resonate with the site," they said.

That would also allow "much more ambitious educational features", including "high-tech interactive elements built into the base of the tower".

The glass would be "embedded with an intense full-colour visual graphic of an almost holographic crystalline motif", with three 4m by 1.5m full colour television-quality LED screens.

The project has also found backers in cyberspace, with a Facebook page set up to "save" the proposal garnering more than 140 members.

Among the page's fans is Ms Scaffidi, who said UWA were still behind the project, and she had written to Premier Colin Barnett.

"It should not be scrapped for more static public art," she wrote.

Ms Scaffidi told the Facebook group she had heard the East Perth Redevelopment Authority had decided against the clock.

However, an EPRA spokeswoman told WAtoday.com.au the project was outside the Link area.

The PTA - which has been contacted for comment - will still need to get WA Planning Commission approval to change the agreement for public art provision as part of the New MetroRail project.

Petitions are an utter waste of time. They achieve nothing.

It's so funny when you see them tapped to shop counters or in fuel stations. Sanj would know all about that.

why are petitions a waste of time?

because you heard it on the interwebz

why are petitions a waste of time?

Because they don't provide any detailed information about why and who is supporting the proposition.

Making a proper submission were the submitters reasons, rationale and motives are clearly defined is much more effective; even if they're lesser in number than a petition.

Otherwise it's just a name below a simplified rant.

I will admit, however if the proposition is very simple and the petition attracts MASSIVE support, then I agree they can be effective. 100 signatures under a short jibe about a clock wouldn't change my opinion.

Because they don't provide any detailed information about why and who is supporting the proposition.


umm... that's not tha fault of a "petition", though... that's tha person creating tha petition?? isn't that tha whole notion of a petition that it is clearly defined? i don't know what type of petitions people are signing but i wouldn't put my name on a petition with a statement/proposition with yes or no choices...

i've been on tha other end of tabling petitions, tha majority are very well written and concise...

tha formal submissions made by people are of a very high standard... it's not just a book of names with a line statement in tha beginning or a print out of those online petitions...

umm... that's not tha fault of a "petition", though... that's tha person creating tha petition?? isn't that tha whole notion of a petition that it is clearly defined? i don't know what type of petitions people are signing but i wouldn't put my name on a petition with a statement/proposition with yes or no choices...

i've been on tha other end of tabling petitions, tha majority are very well written and concise...

tha formal submissions made by people are of a very high standard... it's not just a book of names with a line statement in tha beginning or a print out of those online petitions...

Put it this way. If I got a petition of a couple of hundred signatures with a short introduction about why we should save the clock tower I wouldn't even give it a look.

If I then received 10 formal submissions (perhaps even some tabled by more than one person) that set out exactly why they thought the clock was a good idea and their motive for its support, I'd afford it far more weight than any petition. Put simply quality over quantity.

What's stopping me from starting a petition for the clock and getting school kids, people on their death bed, family friends with no idea what the clock is and street bums from signing it?

'petitions' in itself is a waste of time to directly influence anything however it's all about generating noise and getting your face somewhere and if that happens the momentum may carry you through.

Keep atomic clock talk to inner city thread for now. Kthx.

Clearly I am the boss of everyone using this forum :P

From The Guardian Express 13th July:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/Miensie/SCAN0875_001.jpg

anyone been to see tha model?

close up pics? :p

yeah saw it. Nothing precise. just a basic concept which is good as it will prevent people from whinging about specific elements.

hey, sorry to bump this thread but I've come across something that has me intrigued about how far away work on the Link actually is.

I got an email from Transperth because my regular home -> city bus is changing route - it is now terminating in WSBS instead of running along Wellington Street through to East Perth. Their reason for the change: "Services have been shortened to minimise the impact of the Forrest Place and Northbridge Link works."

Now I can understand the Forrest Place bit - that area is a disaster and I guess its only going to get worse.
But Northbridge Link works!?! They are changing bus routes already?? Correct me if im wrong, but the current start date is early next year?? Anyone got any info if some work is starting earlier? Just curious as to why Transperth has already begun modifying bus routes to accomodate the works

It starts next year and will coincide with the completion of Forrest Place so I guess they've factored it in.

If the link starts straight after the Forrest Place works then i'd say they modified the routes in advance to minimise disruption rather than changing them again when the roadworks start for the link.

I've found plans of the channel 7 site here:

www.jcy.net > all projects > office > perth ent centre redevelopment.

Might be preliminary although probably a decent taste of what they will be proposing.

6 towers, 4 commercial, 2 resi. 22st + roof feature office tower, 2x 12lv office buildings, 18st office building on a podium and twin 18st residential buildings at the rear of the site.

I've found plans of the channel 7 site here:

www.jcy.net > all projects > office > perth ent centre redevelopment.

Might be preliminary although probably a decent taste of what they will be proposing.

6 towers, 4 commercial, 2 resi. 22st + roof feature office tower, 2x 12lv office buildings, 18st office building on a podium and twin 18st residential buildings at the rear of the site.

good find dilaz :) looks really really good. i really hope this gets up. i thought there was talk that C7 were gonna move their studios to this site? is this still the case?

I've found plans of the channel 7 site here:

www.jcy.net > all projects > office > perth ent centre redevelopment.

Might be preliminary although probably a decent taste of what they will be proposing.

6 towers, 4 commercial, 2 resi. 22st + roof feature office tower, 2x 12lv office buildings, 18st office building on a podium and twin 18st residential buildings at the rear of the site.

i'd be happy if what they've come up with goes up! hot.

oh la la.

very modern.

It took me about 15minutes to find these! haha
when I did find them it was pretty obvious that they would be there!

but print screens (Y)
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3162/perthcitylink1.jpg
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/8371/perthcitylink2.jpg
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/5127/perthcitylink3.jpg
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/9949/perthcitylink4.jpg
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/8800/perthcitylink5.jpg
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/8445/perthcitylink6.jpg
http://www.jcy.net/

^^ WOW!!

Looks great! I hope its not a 'pre gfc' render and idea ;)

somethings not right, the project was listed yesterday on their site but i just went there and it's been removed. :?

Your right!
lucky I print screened them all then :)

Your right!
lucky I print screened them all then :)

good thing you weren't the only one too

Does that mean they noticed this thread or more likely the traffic looking at the pics and realised they weren't meant to be up and/or old?

My money is on the former.

Jarkti- bless!

Anyone interested in asking them?

ScoobyDooVillain says :
"arrrrrrhh.....if it wasn't for you damn pesky kids snooping around !!"

Would be nice if somewhere along the whole Perth Link preceinct there were going to be one or two sites that would allow proper highrise buildings, i.e. 30 or 40 stories +. So far it seems that the whole area is going to be low to mid rises upto somewhere in the 20 to 25 storey range. Of course if the mega mart site development if ever became reality.....

The two sites above the bus station will be 30st. The other side of wellington st has no height limit.

I thought sky was the limit?

it would make sense for anything over 30 levels to be on tha southern side of wellington street... there's that massive parking lot that could do with a 180-200m plonked on it... :D

my only concern with wellington there are heaps of residentials already you're only really left with 1 or 2 blocks towards tha western end for something really big... but then i suppose you have miligan street for a couple of smaller towers...

I am historically negative- yes i know!

No where has there ever been mention of 30s buildings in the NBrdge Link- beside the Horse Shoe Bridge Tower- which of course, which I knew, is scrapped- (as far as I can recall)

So I rekon we are dreaming if we think we are gonna get 30s towers anywhere here!

This is Perth.... HELLOOOO!

I am historically negative- yes i know!

No where has there ever been mention of 30s buildings in the NBrdge Link- beside the Horse Shoe Bridge Tower- which of course, which I knew, is scrapped- (as far as I can recall)

So I rekon we are dreaming if we think we are gonna get 30s towers anywhere here!

This is Perth.... HELLOOOO!

I'm sure most developers would be interested if the planning allowed for it.

I am historically negative- yes i know!

No where has there ever been mention of 30s buildings in the NBrdge Link- beside the Horse Shoe Bridge Tower- which of course, which I knew, is scrapped- (as far as I can recall)

So I rekon we are dreaming if we think we are gonna get 30s towers anywhere here!

This is Perth.... HELLOOOO!

From what I remember, If correct
Since the Horseshoe Bridge Tower was scapred, the two towers closer got a height increase...

So they both could be 30st towers
to be honest, I dont mind about the height aslong as they are brilliant buildings :)

I wish it would hurry up and start!

Yes developers would be interested aaro- but thats never been the issue why 30s+ arent built.

And yes I would luv 30s= towers built here 2.

I just think it is highly unlikely+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Would be funny isf someone sent these renders to ABC, Ch9, Ch10 and the Sunday Times. Imagine Ch7 or The West not breaking the story about a development on their own site.

Your right!
lucky I print screened them all then :)

Maybe they are going to change the renders again.... and these ones are going to be useless...

btw, i also saved all those photos on my external HD... :)

The model's now at Central Park btw.

The model's now at Central Park btw.

yess, gonna go see it on friday :) (while in the city to go to the apple store;))

Went and had a bit of a look at the model today. I spent quite a while there looking at all the different angles etc. and there was a few people having a look.
Was very interesting to hear the different discussions going on by different people. There was 2 middle aged men (~50) and I head one of them complain it was 'boring, and as usual Perth was boring' (ie. the usual Perth negativity)
But then 2 younger people (~30) came up and they were very enthusiastic - "can you imagine having an apartment there! how awesome would that be!" the guy said.

A couple of things really stood out for me.
1. Perth Arena. That model is by FAR the best way to get your head around the way the arena will look. I was very impressed by it.
2. The Milligan Street connection to NB (the raised section over the railway). I was a bit worried about that, but seeing it in the model I think that's not a bad way of doing it and could be OK.
3. Town Square. Now obviously they have to get the trains underground in a very short area so they have limited options. The slope up to the top of the horseshoe bridge is a great option. However, they talk about having a 'landmark' roof-type cover over the Horseshoe Bridge as a 'future option'. Why is it a 'future option'!! Do it at the same damn time and you could create a really great/functional alternative entrance to the train station.

If you're in the city its well worth stopping off to have a look - even if it is only to see the Perth arena in 3D!!

Where is it on Sunday? and will I be able to see it on a Sunday :)

Where is it on Sunday? and will I be able to see it on a Sunday :)

On sunday it will still be at Central Park. I doubt you could get into the Central Park foyer on a Sunday :P
The rest of the schedule:

Central Park, 152-158 St Georges Terrace Perth: 27 July – 9 August
Council House, 27 St Georges Terrace Perth: 10 August – 23 August
State Library of WA, Perth Cultural Centre: 24 August – 6 September
Public Transport Centre, West Parade East Perth : 7 September – 20 September

On sunday it will still be at Central Park. I doubt you could get into the Central Park foyer on a Sunday :P
The rest of the schedule:

Nevermind, going tomorow instead of Sunday :)

someone should take close up pics.

:)

There are some close up pics of the model on page 62.

Just had a look at the model today at lunch. I am excited for this even more now!! It is really good to get an idea on scale as well as the flow of the streets and how the overall development will integrate into the surrounding areas!!

I was just over there, got some close ups
I'm outside the apple store now stealing their Internet :)

I didnt go over the top! :O

Perth Arena!
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/5831/dsc0286b.jpg
http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/2914/dsc0287l.jpg
http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/161/dsc0289k.jpg
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/8040/dsc0296p.jpg
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/6233/dsc0290h.jpg

Down Wellington Street
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/4961/dsc0288y.jpg

Celebration Square
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/5039/dsc0291t.jpg

Yayyy
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6988/dsc0292sx.jpg

Miligan Street
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/5122/dsc0293f.jpg


I call this, Link street :)
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/7330/dsc0294o.jpg

Celebration Square
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/5567/dsc0295i.jpg

Perth Arena
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/8040/dsc0296p.jpg

Yayy!!
http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/1796/dsc0297c.jpg

Bus Port
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/6896/dsc0298z.jpg

King Street
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/193/dsc0299zk.jpg

Railway Parade
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/818/dsc0300nf.jpg

Wellington Street
http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/7977/dsc0301a.jpg

Train+Bus exit
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/1418/dsc0302d.jpg

Picture display :)
http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/1750/dsc0303.jpg

Thanks for the shots. I am getting excited about this.

fantastic. good work jarkti.

excellent shots. No such thing as over the top.

I'm very unsure about celebration place. I still can't understand how they're going to reconcile the public square with the railway dive structure as well as the horseshoe bridge.

excellent shots. No such thing as over the top.

I'm very unsure about celebration place. I still can't understand how they're going to reconcile the public square with the railway dive structure as well as the horseshoe bridge.

In my mind im picturing it to be somewhat like fed square! Their railway passes under and then the public space ramps up over the top, which explains the incline / slope that it has! I think the final resolution of CP will change as the project gathers momentum, but i must be honest that at its current design phase its the worst aspect of the link -> design wise that is

Imo it needs to engage more with the railway (design wise) ... maybe by redesigning the roof of Perth Central - something like Spencer St station in Melbourne would be cool. Maybe just have to wait and see as more detail is released to get a better understanding of how the plaza will end up! Also the interaction with the horseshoe should be that people can alight at the top by bus (hopefully an LRT stop in the future - running along william st from foreshore through to NB) and make their way down to CP or to central.

Got to see the display today :)

Buses used to stop there but they closed it off after Perth was converted into a closed station; there isn't any practical space to build any fare gates. However, that could always change after revamp the station around the Horseshoe Bridge.

i'm not too crash hot on tha square either but it's just indicative but yeh i don't understand why you wouldn't cover tha whole portal...

i can understand tha entrance over by tha arena not being covered up but this part seems relatively small to have a gaping hole... you already covered tha whole area, why not just cover tha whole thing...

How do you mean Crave? They cant have the whole square at ground level because otherwise the rail lines could not come up to platform/ground level in time to enter the train station, or at least I think thats whats going on.

love the pic showing the street down the middle of the link site.

Oh sozlol crave. I didnt see the picture from the north with the train that is uncovered.

sozlol


ffaaaaarrrrrkkkkk.

at least if celebration plaza is left blank they can work with it at a later date. Seems to be a sticking point with people, rather than stir sh1t just leave it blank that way no one can whinge.

It's happening!!

Perth City Link Project a step closer
3-September-10 by Staff Reporters


A Brookfield Multiplex and Laing O'Rourke joint venture and a joint venture between John Holland and GHD have been short-listed as the final proponents for the $600 million rail component of the Perth City Link Project.

Transport Minister Simon O'Brien said the short-listing brought the sinking of the railway one step closer.

"Sinking the railway literally underpins the vision to redevelop 14ha between Perth and Northbridge - something which has been talked about for more than 100 years,"
Mr O'Brien said.

The Minister said the next assessment stage was crucial to robustly define the project's scope and competitively assess the two proponents.

"In late December, the two proponent groups will provide the Public Transport Authority with their detailed documentation for the major works to sink the Fremantle line between William Street, and Lake and King streets," said Mr O'Brien.

The alliance contract will be awarded in March 2011. The rail project is scheduled for completion in 2014.

The sinking of the Wellington Street Bus Station is due for completion in 2016.


http://www.wabusinessnews.com.au/en-story/1/83295/Perth-City-Link-Project-a-step-closer?utm_source=DBA&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=article_click

My money's on Multiplex

Same.

Interesting to see that the sinking of the rail and the sinking of the bus station are being awarded under different contracts. Does anyone know why? Seems like it would be more efficient to get it all done at once. Though I'd imagine, all going well, the second contract would be awarded as the first.

I noticed quite a few Downer EDI cars around the Entertainment Centre the other day. So as someone mentioned a few days ago, maybe they are getting ready for some demo work.

isn't laing o'rourke a real estate company?

My money is on JH/GHD. Multiplex already have a significant undertaking here with the hospital.

FTW they're called brookfield now.

isn't laing o'rourke a real estate company?

My money is on JH/GHD. Multiplex already have a significant undertaking here with the hospital.

FTW they're called brookfield now.

Nah I think Laing O'Rouke is an engineering/construction/development firm.

There is a real estate company around Perth called O'Rouke, but they are unrelated.

isn't laing o'rourke a real estate company?

My money is on JH/GHD. Multiplex already have a significant undertaking here with the hospital.

FTW they're called brookfield now.

why is it For The Win that they are now called Brookfield?

i think he meant FTR

or BTW.

yeah one of those. Typing on a eeepc sucks.

Back to the link now, there's been no word on the ch7 site despite the renders I found being forwarded to all our media contacts. Useless bunch they are.

yeah one of those. Typing on a eeepc sucks.

Back to the link now, there's been no word on the ch7 site despite the renders I found being forwarded to all our media contacts. Useless bunch they are.

Ch7 are still waiting on Stirling to decide what density they will allow on the Tuart hill site before 7 set any plans in motion.

Tomorrow's Voice:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/Miensie/SSC%20-%20Articles/SCAN0977_001.jpg

From the Transperth website - Forward works starting :)

Forward works (October 2010 – July 2011)
The first major change is closing Platforms 6 and 7 for upgrades from late October until mid-2011. During this time Fremantle Line services will move from Platform 7 to Platform 8. Armadale C# services, which currently depart from Platform 6, will also be relocated towards the Western Concourse, next to Platform 8.

While closed there will be no access to Platform 6 and 7 from the Eastern Concourse. However, an accessible walkway at the western end of Perth Train Station and the wooden footbridge near the Horseshoe Bridge will still be in place, to provide access to the relocated Fremantle and Armadale services.

http://i53.tinypic.com/5d6sxt.jpg

I'm guessing these are the works to extend 6 and 7 eastwards in preparation for the demolition of 8 and old 5. Finally work begins. Would be exciting when they start building platform 10.

Six new pics of the 24/7 cop shop-cum-Magistraes Court-cum 110-plus prisoner lockup ...

http://www.oneperth.com.au/2010/09/30/perth-police-station-plans-revealed/

Drove past yesterday, looks like they're ready to start building.

oneperth isn't tha first to reveal these plans...

:)

I'm pretty sure they are. I'd only seen one or 2 photos previously.

really? i thought tha department had released tha plans...

:p

someone on ssc linked the tender docs last week, wouldnt be surprised if oneperth got the images and info from there

Yeah the link to the tender documents were posted here. As Samboy said last week, CK will likely get more scoops from us than we do from him.

haha... hot.

he should out himself... (his identity that is...)

speaking of out... ended up on tha 60 minutes video page and a gay suicide story came up, was about a teen who moved from one school to another to escape bullying but then tha bullying got worse in tha new school and drove him to suicide... so sad. cvntz.

Crave wins the most off-topic post award.

When are we likely to see people in hi-vis vests digging shit up for this? Or, at least, using those tripod surveying devices (the ones I have no idea as to how they work)?

They've been doing that stuff for months.

Yeah? I go walking through the city a few times a week and I've never seen anything outisde of the Arena & St Georges Tce upgrade... Hmm!

Once a week though. No slow tactics on this one.

http://www.pta.wa.gov.au/perthcitylink/Home/tabid/276/language/en-US/Default.aspx

Not sure if this has been linked to before, saw it on the PTA website and hadnt noticed the link before.

The Master Plan document makes for an interesting read :)

http://www.pta.wa.gov.au/LinkClick.aspx?link=images%2fpcl%2fperth+station+-+looki%23b1c69.jpg&tabid=324&mid=1000&language=en-US

http://www.pta.wa.gov.au/perthcitylink/Home/tabid/276/language/en-US/Default.aspx

Not sure if this has been linked to before, saw it on the PTA website and hadnt noticed the link before.

The Master Plan document makes for an interesting read :)


Nope this hasn't been linked yet! Great find! Lots of interesting information, especially the details of each stage that had been the subject of much discussion.

^^

Cheers :)

Love that pic Dilaz put up too, love seeing the tunnels sink and bend off in the distance. Can't wait for this to actually start happening!!

Nice!

Then they just have to sort out the roof (as the current one is ugly as sin), and extend the Pedestrian underpass (that will go to all platforms including the underground station) under Roe street to next to the Theatre (will surely be included in whatever replaces that car park / urban orchard in the long term).


edit - just noticed there is not access to the platforms from the horseshoe bridge. Does that mean the bus stop on the bridge will be redundant (can you even get to the platforms from there now??)?

^^

The access to the platforms was closed as part of the smart rider rollout but the bridge remains linking the two platforms (for now anyway)

yeah - talking of smartrider I would expect there would be smartrider turnstiles under ther bridge on the top l/h side of that render for access to/from the new square.

Wow the render of the station is looking great!

Nice!

Then they just have to sort out the roof (as the current one is ugly as sin)

edit - just noticed there is not access to the platforms from the horseshoe bridge. Does that mean the bus stop on the bridge will be redundant (can you even get to the platforms from there now??)?

I don't think the current roof is that bad. It does the job - keeps out the weather, lets in the light etc etc. Don't see much reason to replace it imo (I'm sure that's debatable haha)

The bus stop on the bridge is pretty much already redundant because you can't get to the platforms from there now anyway cos there is a closed gate across the entrance. :)

True, it is rather open there in the upper corner.

And with the roof, I wonder if they do make any changes to it if they will retain the original roof like they did in the late 80's.

It sits in the centre at the very top running from the station building out acroos the platform. The preserved it and made it part of the exisiting roof, quite astounding for perth in the 80's really!

Well ther render isn't entirely accurate (as its a render after all) - there is the small matter of the clutter from all the overhead wires that is missing and would make this view quite different in real life.

http://www.pta.wa.gov.au/LinkClick.aspx?link=images%2fpcl%2fperth+station+-+looki%23b1c69.jpg&tabid=324&mid=1000&language=en-US
Plus it looks like the station opens up into CP.

Plus it looks like the station opens up into CP.

It will do but as stated there will be smartrider turnstyles there.

Oh right..I just now read the above posts.

that render is awesome!
we now have a PTA perth city link website and a main perth city link website:
http://www.perthcitylink.wa.gov.au/ woooo! :D

ps. sorry to burst your bubble but that master plan had been linked before :p but its good its much easier to find now and that render is certainly new :D

good grief. 2016... and no "celebration place" landmark building in sight... hmm.

edit

a couple more thoughts/questions.

the roof isnt THAT bad. maybe just modernise it up a bit - clad the big support poles in stainless steel or something like that.

and you know that big glass stairwell thing joined onto the horseshoe bridge - left over from the demolished overpass to albert facey house?? whats happening with that - now THAT is completely redundant and a massive eyesore. are they getting rid of it? cause it will be quite hard to rebuild a section of the HB where the stairwell is...

Am I the only one that hasnt seen this picture either?
Its an entry to the underground bus station

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/7525/undergroundwsbsentrycop.jpg

southern cross station roof ftw

http://www.planetware.com/i/photo/melbourne-aus203.jpg

Liking the underground portals however the centre platform should have access to the horseshoe bridge and future public building.

good grief. 2016... and no "celebration place" landmark building in sight... hmm.

It does seem a little long. Who knows what will happen with celebration place There's so many competing factors from political priorities to economics, not to mention the growing list of similar projects such as the museum, stadium, waterfront, aboriginal centre ect...

It would have been much easier for the government to sell the site to a private developer who could have delivered something that would make them a profit while adding something unique to the city. It's not like there isn't potential elsewhere in the city for a large public square.

That's right, a filthy lefty arguing against a conservative governments state-sponsored, public development :P

^^You've changed dude.

southern cross station roof ftw

http://www.planetware.com/i/photo/melbourne-aus203.jpg
ok i take back my comment about the roof being 'not THAT bad'.
OMG that is hot!!! :drool:

ok i take back my comment about the roof being 'not THAT bad'.
OMG that is hot!!! :drool:

and it looks even better in person!
such an incredible building, will never forget the first time I seen
6:30am on a Melbourne Winters morning, COLD!
Though I got to sit there staring at it for an hour waiting for Mr V-Line to let me on.

those talking 2016 finish...
have they actually ruled out doing the concurrent build option?
-this option is mentioned in the masterplan
- concurrent build will get it all done by mid/late 2014 ... instead of mid 2016 ?

Yep. Puts to much strain on the state budget in the early years of construction.

The PTA masterplans are really interesting reads.

Regarding the underground pedestrian connections connecting Perth Underground and all platforms in Perth Central; am I right in saying that the underpass will continue along the concourse level of Perth Underground through the hallway (where there LED lights on the walls are) up to the point of the steps/escalators to the right that take commuters up to Perth Central level. At that point the connection will continue straight, through what it now a wall and hook up with the underpasses connecting each platform?

^ That was my interpretation too.

Great Minds Dilaz. Great Minds.

The PTA masterplans are really interesting reads.

Regarding the underground pedestrian connections connecting Perth Underground and all platforms in Perth Central; am I right in saying that the underpass will continue along the concourse level of Perth Underground through the hallway (where there LED lights on the walls are) up to the point of the steps/escalators to the right that take commuters up to Perth Central level. At that point the connection will continue straight, through what it now a wall and hook up with the underpasses connecting each platform?


Ahhh sweet ive been sifting my way through the doc and that caught my eye -> thats what the escalators are for on each platform at perth central in the perspective above. cheers :cheers:

All i can say is hurry up already! Another Q ive got is when are they going to start developing the lots that were released through EOI by EPRA. It annoys me how just as perth arena will open there will most probably be a development sites right next door aka hotel :ohno: or will they be finishing simultaneously?

It is a long process from EOI to actually getting a development off the ground. If I remember correctly the EPRA said they would finalise negotiations and sale of the lots from the EOI late this year or early next (?). Following that the successful tenderer would undertake the detailed planning of their proposal and put it to the EPRA and CoP for final design and build approval. THEN they can start building.

I imagine thats how the process will work anyway.

good grief. 2016... and no "celebration place" landmark building in sight... hmm.


But this is a PTA render for the Station.

EPRA are responsible for Celibration Place



and you think that people will be talking and sharing ideas so we can see what the whole thing really may look like!?!? :nuts:

But this is a PTA render for the Station.

EPRA are responsible for Celibration Place



and you think that people will be talking and sharing ideas so we can see what the whole thing really may look like!?!? :nuts:

Government Departments working together?!?!

That would be most Un-West Australian and truly Un-Australian :lol:

Government Departments working ?!?!

That would be most Un-West Australian and truly Un-Australian :lol:

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The PTA masterplans are really interesting reads.

Regarding the underground pedestrian connections connecting Perth Underground and all platforms in Perth Central; am I right in saying that the underpass will continue along the concourse level of Perth Underground through the hallway (where there LED lights on the walls are) up to the point of the steps/escalators to the right that take commuters up to Perth Central level. At that point the connection will continue straight, through what it now a wall and hook up with the underpasses connecting each platform?

Pretty sure that the concourse level connection will be cunstructed to the right of the existing stairs and escalator (where the lift is now) and run round that before joining up to the new underpass connecting all of the platforms (which will be one of the first things constructed)..... not quite straight through, but if you went straight ahead, it gets into the footings of the Horseshoe Bridge, and working round those would be a pain best avoided.....

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Touché :)

Have read both docs with interest, one thing was clear that nothing over 3 stories can be built on the north/south tunnel entry, which is disappointing but understandable.

One thing which I am still not clear is that the north/south tunnel entry will be covered up to milligan street but what happens then between milligan and back down the tunnel crossing under roe?

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/4179/scan0047k.jpg

Remediation works are gearing up and there's now signs surrounding the site. Prepare for 6-7 years of snails pace construction plagued by massive labour shortages, cost blowouts, time delays and the subsequent bad media coverage.

Bring it on!

yayyyyyyyyyy. :D

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_CsDPIVIWcF8/S8MHGpZ-ZnI/AAAAAAAABwc/_Ne2yNsCiYc/s1600/Celebrate.jpg

so explain this to an idiot..
Remediation works would envole them doing...

Forward works, site preparation, service provision and relocation etc etc

^^ Yeah - stuff that has to be done that takes a while to go through yet most of the public are blissfully unaware of.

There is a tender out now for the roadworks between Perth Arena and PEC, i.e. the Milligan street extension and modificatiosn to the pdestrian bridge. Not all documents (no engineering drawings) are available for download, but there is some indication that the PEC might be demolished around April next year. So it's good to sse there are some works starting on the other end of the link as well not, just the railway sinking.

https://www.tenders.wa.gov.au/watenders/tender/display/tender-details.do?id=16732&action=display-tender-details&returnUrl=%2Ftender%2Fsearch%2Ftender-search.do%3Faction%3Dadvanced-tender-search-open-tender

That road (Milligan St extension) has to be done to allow cars access to the Perth Arena carpark and buses to the bus bridge - and eventually the bus port.

yes, I thought that would be related to the Perth Arena carpark. But the works might also get the site ready for the proposed hotel??

^^ Yeah - also related to the two sites in between PA and PEC.

aaand we're off to a GREAT start:
This is from the Transperth website talking about the forward works (platform 6/7 upgrades).
UPDATE: Forward works (November 2010 – July 2011)

Please note that the date for the first major change has shifted from October to November 2010.

Forward works, site preparation, service provision and relocation etc etc

giving plenty of time to change the project completely to make it look bland and dour due to a change of government

so explain this to an idiot..
Remediation works would envole them doing...

Remediation works usually mean the clean-up of a contaminated site. Having been witness to trains of all manner and discriptions over the last 100 or so years, the railway reserve is bound to contain some contamination.

The railway reserve there was a large marshalling/goods transfer yard and servicing centre so I'm sure there was all manner of coal, chemicals, oils etc spilt and sitting in the soil.

The southern part was built over in the early 70s by the WSBS and PEC and the northern part disappeared about the early 1980s, probably replaced by expansion/reconstruction of Claisebrook?

The railway reserve there was a large marshalling/goods transfer yard and servicing centre so I'm sure there was all manner of coal, chemicals, oils etc spilt and sitting in the soil.

The southern part was built over in the early 70s by the WSBS and PEC and the northern part disappeared about the early 1980s, probably replaced by expansion/reconstruction of Claisebrook?

Between 1982 and 1985 due to Claisebrook yes and the electrification upgrades

Between 1982 and 1985 due to Claisebrook yes and the electrification upgrades

During the construction of the Roe Street Tunnel the Fremantle tracks were moved from the Southern side of the dive to the northern side. Now with the Northbridge link they're moving back to where they were. Gotta love the foresight!

During the construction of the Roe Street Tunnel the Fremantle tracks were moved from the Southern side of the dive to the northern side. Now with the Northbridge link they're moving back to where they were. Gotta love the foresight!

Leightons said to the PTA the first time round that they would underground the entire length of the Joondalup line from the new underground station to the north side of Roe Street at the freeway (leaving the Fremantle line above ground, but the PTA were not interested, as they wished to keep the connections between the Joondalup line and the Fremantle line - for rolling stock movements and for footy specials which they wished to run from Mandurah direct to West Leederville..... the extra cost was not that much of the overall budget, and would have been easy to do then at the time, but it was turned down......

Look into the entire projects occurring at the time, and try to understand why things are done in cases like this....... The Roe Street tunnel required the lines to be on the north side of the Joondalup line so that the bus road could be relocated to the southern side close to the tracks, to allow the future bus bridge to be built within the existing alignments held by the PTA...... everything is linked together sometimes......

from the Transperth site:
Platforms 6 and 7 are temporarily closing down at Perth Station
Effective: Sunday 5 December 2010

From 5 December to mid 2011, Platforms 6 and 7 will be closed for upgrades.
During this time, Fremantle Line services will move from Platform 7 to Platform 8. Armadale C# pattern services, leaving from Platform 6, will also relocate west, next to Platform 8.
...
Why the upgrade?
This work is to get ready for the Perth City Link Project’s main rail works, beginning in 2011.


yay!

During the construction of the Roe Street Tunnel the Fremantle tracks were moved from the Southern side of the dive to the northern side. Now with the Northbridge link they're moving back to where they were. Gotta love the foresight!

:bash: Perth summed up nicely ;) Much like the train of thought (pardon the pun) of having stations not in median of the freeway (Currambine)

And once again a perfect opportunity to have a station for easy access to the venue, the west end of northbridge, easy change point for Joondalup and Fremantle lines and West perth and even City West are now potentially lost.

I suppose this belongs here-
From the West
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/newshome/8466846/entertainment-centre-land-swap-deal/

Entertainment centre land swap deal
GARETH PARKER, The West Australian December 7, 2010, 12:27 pm

Demolition work will begin on the Perth Entertainment Centre next month after a land swap deal between the building's owner, Seven Group, and the State Government.

The Entertainment Centre, disused and a growing eyesore since it was closed in August 2002, will be demolished to make way for a new mixed use development likely to include office space and apartments.

Seven Group chief executive Peter Gammell said the company was yet to finalise its plans but at this stage there was no intention to move Channel 7 Perth's operations from their studios in Dianella.

Such a move has been long speculated as part of any redevelopment.

Mr Gammell said Seven would develop the 2ha site in conjunction with a partner. Development plans are yet to be lodged with the East Perth Redevelopment Authority.

The land swap, which will see Seven give the Government a small parcel of land north of the Entertainment Centre and adjacent to the Fremantle railway line in return for a roughly equivalent parcel on the eastern side of the building, will help facilitate the sinking of the railway line.

Planning Minister John Day said work would commence on the sinking of the rail next year with the whole project, including the undergrounding of the Wellington Street bus station, expected to take six years.

The Government has shortlisted two consortiums for the rail works component of the project, headed by Brookfield Multiplex and John Holland.

A contract is expected to be awarded in March.

Demolition on the Entertainment Centre will begin in January and the intention is to have the site cleared and ready for development by the time the adjacent Perth Arena opens in late 2012.

The Seven Holdings land will be the first development site off the rank in the Perth City link project area, which runs from the Mitchell Freeway to the Horseshoe Bridge between Wellington and Roe Streets.
Mr Gammell said Seven expects to develop the site in stages over three to five years.

i guess tha cleared parcel of land adjacent to perth arena won't have anything on it anytime soon either... hiss.

Why do you guess that? I'm quite sure expressions of interest were due in december and it will be awarded sometime soon. Can anyone confirm?

Demolition work will begin on the Perth Entertainment Centre next month after a land swap deal between the building's owner, Seven Group, and the State Government.

YIKES! I gotta get a move on getting inside...

More info here, including CityVision prophecies.

http://www.perthnow.com.au/business/sevens-perth-entertainment-centre-plans/story-e6frg2s3-1225967115258

Dear Mr. Adam... STFU about the goddamn park already!!! :bash:

Lol. Yes because mixed use retail, office and residential is Dullsville compared to a park haha!

Dear Mr. Adam... STFU about the goddamn park already!!! :bash:

Oh, FFS! Is he still harping on about this sh*t? Give it up, Adams! You've lost! No one cares about your tired old spruking of your backwards group's outdated ideas!

Can't wait for this to get underway.

Ugh, I was so incensed by Ken Adams comments that I had to pop my SSC cherry and post.
For him to suggest another park is more interesting than a large scale redevelopment of the land is ridiculous. But for him to say it will truly turn Perth into dullsville... He must be somewhat dull himself, and a little bit dim. >(

Don't worry about him Adorm. I was worried when the libs came to power that Cityvision might have some sway with Barnett but its since been shown that they're a lame duck with no influence at the State Gov level. Adams is just moving his mouth and blowing hot air because he doesn't know how to do anything different. How he keeps getting interviews I honestly don't know. From what I've seen recently though its only with Perth Now which says something in itself.

Welcome to the forum btw.

YIKES! I gotta get a move on getting inside...

Cue Mission Impossible theme.

Did anyone see channel 7 neews tonight- they said the entertainment center will begin being demolished next month I think!

Thanks Click, been lurking for a fair while, thought it was about time to create an account!

But yeah, it seems like city vision are a totally irrelevant organisation, given a voice by the likes of PerthNow to get their rabid NIMBY readership worked up at any prospect of change. :ohno:

Why will demolishing the Entertainment Center take so long?
Its not exactly big and I dont remember seeing anything unusual in its construction back when I used to go to basketball games there as a kid.

EDIT:
I think I remember reading somewhere that the Entertainment Center contains Asbestos. If that's true, it would explain the need to do it carefully (especially after the complaints people made about the demolition of the old MYER building which was full of Asbestos)

Yeah - wouldn't be surprised if asbestos is present.

somebody check the DA's :)

somebody check the DA's :)

Oh, you wouldn't be referring to the $600 million project would ya :banana:


"BUS TERMINAL" 554 Wellington Street PERTH WA 6000
Demolition of the Perth Entertainment Centre and Development of Four Commercial/Retail Buildings, Two Mixed Use Buildings and Associated Public Realm.
600,000,000.00

someone go and dig up those renders i found awhile back and i'll start a new thread.

It took me about 15minutes to find these! haha
when I did find them it was pretty obvious that they would be there!

but print screens (Y)
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3162/perthcitylink1.jpg
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/8371/perthcitylink2.jpg
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/5127/perthcitylink3.jpg
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/9949/perthcitylink4.jpg
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/8800/perthcitylink5.jpg
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/8445/perthcitylink6.jpg
http://www.jcy.net/

:3

*catface* back at you.

New thread time...on sunday.

I noticed the other day heaps of Northbridge Link signs along the Wellington St frontage of the Bus Station

Awsome news. A Development that will totally change Perth.

Great news, I cannot wait. Hopefully designs have not changed and it is approved...

So do these not have to go before PCC committee's because they are under EPRA jurisdiction?

I want to live there.

So do these not have to go before PCC committee's because they are under EPRA jurisdiction?

It does. However EPRA have the final say.

*catface* back at you.

New thread time...on sunday.

cool, and if it's not too much to ask of could you please update or create 2 other new threads:

Discussions & Photos | Photos of WA | 2011

Projects & Discussions | Inner City Development | 2011

(Y) You've already fixed up the Spam and News threads in late November 2010... two more new threads would be nice too :)

it's cool we've fairly much skipped most of 2010 altogether in terms of all of those above threads...

also does City Sq, Raine Square & Equus qualify for Topped Out or do you not worry about them until the floors have caught up to the top of the cores and roof plant etc are all up there too? and the title goes straight to complete? :D

:cheers1:

here's a new map of Perth train station, on completion of all works (2014), that is new to the City Link website:
http://www.pta.wa.gov.au/LinkClick.aspx?link=images%2fpcl%2fpcl_staging_map_-_final.jpg&tabid=341&mid=1029&language=en-US

finally an easily readable diagram so we can clearly see the final product :)

This might be a stupid question - but why two Midland and Armadale line platforms?

Armadale line terminates at Perth, so it needs two platforms so that frequencies can remain high. During peak hour, as one Armadale train comes in, the other leaves on the other platform. This is similar (I'm sure) to the other terminal stations (Armadale, Clarkson, Fremantle, Midland and Mandurah)

The new Platform 9 will probably be used for Football, School and Showground specials, a replacement for the current Platform 8

Thanks for posting, very useful

The new Platform 9 will probably be used for Football, School and Showground specials, a replacement for the current Platform 8

and hopefully for the future airport line....

Looks cool as bro!


JYC have a development that we were looking for a while back on their website. A residential development on cnr of Peir and Aberdeen st that was recently knocked back...

http://www.jcy.net/

search for the Sustainable affordable housing in the inner city project.

^ wrong thread but a new DA for a 14lv development was recently approved for that site.

ha, they've set up a webcam in Perth train station to capture the City link works. nothing much happening now, but hopefully will be of interest *soon*

^ are we able to view it?

^^ oops i forgot to put the link in... my bad
http://www.pta.wa.gov.au/perthcitylink/ProjectCamera/tabid/347/language/en-US/Default.aspx

and hopefully for the future airport line....

Correct......

not sure if anyone knows (or is even interested :P), but you can now subscribe to regular updates about the PTA's work for City Link. I received the first one today:

This report focuses mainly on Platform 6/7, which was closed in early December 2010, and is first of a series of regular updates.

Platform 6/7 Upgrade: Overview
This work is to extend the operating area of Platform 6/7 under the Eastern Concourse. The extension, with new flooring, ceilings, lighting and services, ensures the platforms can accommodate a six-car set when Platform 8 and 6 west are demolished as part of the Perth City Link.

Construction Update
Before Christmas all lighting in Perth Station was upgraded to improve visibility and the seating on Platform 6/7 was removed. This helped manage passengers when the platforms were reinstated on 18-19 December for the U2 and Muse concerts and Christmas-related events.

In 2011, the contractor returned to the site in early January. Among their first pieces of work was to remove the ceiling above Platform 6/7 (underneath the eastern concourse). When this is completed (late February), work will begin to upgrade electrical and communications services before the new ceiling and lighting is installed.

More work has continued on Platform 6/7 with the removal of the banner poles.

In response to customer queries we have installed additional signage in Perth Station, specifically along Platform 8 to direct passengers to the relocated Fremantle and Armadale C# services. Particular attention was given to directing those with mobility and accessibility difficulties towards the platform level walkway at the end of Platform 8, which connects to the old Platform1.

The flooring on this walkway was recently refurbished to ensure it can cope with the potential high levels of foot traffic, and that it will remain safe and durable.

Disruptions or closures
There are currently no planned service disruptions. The PTA and our contractor are working to ensure these works have minimal impact on services to passengers and local businesses by carrying out most of the work at night.

Timelines
The completion date for the Platform 6/7 upgrades remains as mid-2011. We will update you on the timings as the project progresses.

The amount of directional signage is ridiculously amazing. There's no way you can miss one. I hope they do keep up this level of communication once all the work is over.

If there's one thing we excel at in Perth, it's signage.

^^ oops i forgot to put the link in... my bad
http://www.pta.wa.gov.au/perthcitylink/ProjectCamera/tabid/347/language/en-US/Default.aspx

Great, but how often does it update?

^^hourly

If there's one thing we excel at in Perth, it's signage.

no way - our signage is lousy. especially freeways. like heading west on Great eastern Farmer tunnel coming up, sign says "Joondalup".... go figure.

no way - our signage is lousy. especially freeways. like heading west on Great eastern Farmer tunnel coming up, sign says "Joondalup".... go figure.

I'm not sure what else you would put on there. Northbridge?

no way - our signage is lousy. especially freeways. like heading west on Great eastern Farmer tunnel coming up, sign says "Joondalup".... go figure.

Its stating the ultimate destination of the road, and then the distance. Pretty straightforward to me. You get things like 'Lancelin 112km' on major routes like Wanneroo road, and while thats probably pointless for most, some might find that info useful.

I'm not sure what else you would put on there. Northbridge?

Well it is the direction you would go possibly for Joondalup, Fremantle or Mandurah. We just have random signs.

Note I said travelling west (maybe south west) on Graeat Eastern Highway... not on the Graham Farmer yet...

I like in the UK it has a bunch of places you may or may not have heard of, but at the top THE NORTH, or THE SOUTH, so you at least know you are heading the right direction.

And no it is not one with a kms on it. Even when you are in the tunnel there is a sign pointing left for the West Perth/Loftus St exit, when the next exit is Freeway South.

I'm not sure what else you would put on there. Northbridge?

Yes? why not. More people are probably heading in to Northbridge or West Perth than to Joondalup.

there's been something wrong with the PTA's CityLink website this morning, so it appears the webcam has got stuck on the 3am update this morning.

good chance to see whats going on, because thye are doing 'slab cutting' at the moment from 10pm-6am. thats dedication - workers busy at 3am!

http://i55.tinypic.com/2vwen3d.png

If there's one thing we excel at in Perth, it's signage.

:lol: so true lol


what i dont get is that platform 11 (old platform 1) has no rail to it... why even bother having it? :bash:

oh and that "fed square" rip off is rather pathetic to be honest

During one of the construction phases, the Fremantle line has to connect up with the Armadale Line. Old platform 1 will be used for special services. Once that phase is complete, old platform 1 (together with all the other platforms west of horseshoe bridge) will be removed.

Has anyone got any insider knowledge on Ch7 site as far as studios?
http://www.perthnow.com.au/business/sevens-perth-entertainment-centre-plans/story-e6frg2s3-1225967115258 indicates it's (studios -> CBD) is a no-go? that's about 3 months ago

From yesterday - thought I'd take a few pics before it is (possibly) demolished.

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/6677/pec110220a.jpg
Hosted on ImageShack (http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/6677/pec110220a.jpg) (by me)

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*sob*

It would make a great location for a world-ending plague science-fiction b-movie.

^^ The PEC or just Perth in general?

^^ The PEC or just Perth in general?

Oh no he di'nt!

I suspect the Entertainment Center land is too valuable to use for TV studios.
And unlike the move to Martin Place in Sydney or to their Docklands HQ in Melbourne, they get almost no benefit from moving to the CBD.

Well they have to move somewhere. The Dianella studios have been sold AFAIK.

Wasn't the plan to have the studios on the lower floor(s) with apartments, etc. above it?

^Thats what I heard/read, also seen something about a possible cinema at the top aswell...

Putting a nice new multiplex in the CBD would help invigorate the CBD and draw people away from the suburban shopping centers (particularly say people who might do "dinner & a movie" and visit a CBD or north-bridge dining location for their meal)

Although I suspect that "invigoration" and "after hours activation" of the CBD is the last thing developers like Finbar want...

Well they have to move somewhere. The Dianella studios have been sold AFAIK.

Next to the Convention Centre has always been suggested, though again, very expensive, valuable land.

18/02/2011
"ENTERTAINMENT CENTRE"
560 Wellington Street PERTH WA 6000
- Subdivision - Amalgamation of Former Entertainment Centre Site
0.00
SUAM 2011/4001
WAPC-143700

22/02/2011
"ENTERTAINMENT CENTRE"
560 Wellington Street PERTH WA 6000
Demolition of Perth Entertainment Centre - 3 Storeys
1,533,400.00
DA 2011/2046

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Next to the Convention Centre has always been suggested, though again, very expensive, valuable land.

Can't they build some studios on top of the convention centre??

That flat, white, ugly piece of shit is land on top of land (it looks like it anyways).

for fucks sake THAT IS OWNED BY SOMEONE ELSE

I know this sounds idealistic, but would Channel 7 lease the land out (or even better lease for free?) to Transperth for a temp WSBS so that we don't get a stupidly ridiculous situation where 10-15 buses are parked alongside peak hour traffic!

I know this sounds idealistic, but would Channel 7 lease the land out (or even better lease for free?) to Transperth for a temp WSBS so that we don't get a stupidly ridiculous situation where 10-15 buses are parked alongside peak hour traffic!

that is infact the second of the shortlisted options, and their 'fallback' option should Wellington St become unavailable...

18/02/2011
"ENTERTAINMENT CENTRE"
560 Wellington Street PERTH WA 6000
- Subdivision - Amalgamation of Former Entertainment Centre Site
0.00
SUAM 2011/4001
WAPC-143700

22/02/2011
"ENTERTAINMENT CENTRE"
560 Wellington Street PERTH WA 6000
Demolition of Perth Entertainment Centre - 3 Storeys
1,533,400.00
DA 2011/2046

:)

$1.5m to demolish. Expensive work.

$1.5m to demolish. Expensive work.

It costs a lot to demolish something so awesome.

You are itching to take a sledgehammer to it, aren't you?

for fucks sake THAT IS OWNED BY SOMEONE ELSE
Yes I know. (I wasn't actually being serious, just pointing out a random idea).

Christ that's a expensive demo, some people would probably PAY to be able to whack a sledge hammer at that thing.