Not beautiful for most of us, but indeed impressive, huge, weird looking and hard not to
look when you pass one.

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Nice video here (http://www.stiriazi.ro/ziare/articol/sumar-articol/1019973/).

Very kitschy, but at least they look better than the unrenovated buildings in Bucharest :lol:

Hmm, not sure we needed such thread, but interesting nonetheless.

^^I wasn't sure either whether or not to open such a thread, but I found it interesting how gypsies, who most would say are very rich, give all their money to build these kitschy, bling-bling buildings.Though, if it's innapropriate, I have nothing against closing this thread.

My eyes, my fucking eyes!

Asta e la Buzesti :) . se spune ca rromi isi construiesc palatele dupa avere . un turn pe casa = 1 mil. de euro

BASH!chiar nu ma interesa un astfel de thread.:wallbash:Asta e la Buzesti :) . se spune ca rromi isi construiesc palatele dupa avere . un turn pe casa = 1 mil. de euro
Te rog,zi-le tigani,nu rromi,ala e un nume dat de consiliul europei in urma cu cateva decenii pentru ca denumirea lor istorica li se parea vulgara.:deadthrea:skull:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1M3lDQ2hgY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2TBMeHyEMY


:bash:

Oricat de nasoale ar parea acele cartiere, ele beneficiaza de o coerenta si armonie rar intalnita in noile cartiere din tara. Ma refer la inaltimi, retrageri, stil ... si asta in conditiile in care se stie ca tiganii nu sunt mari fani ai regulilor / legilor.

Cam asta e diferenta dintre manelisti si romani ;)

http://cashidelucs.wordpress.com/2009/02/17/palladio-inca-traiestepe-bune-il-poti-auzi-invartindu-se-prin-sicriu/

Cam asta e diferenta dintre manelisti si romani ;)

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^^ Coerenta a la tigani :cheers:

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^^ Coerenta a la romani :runaway:

existe un album chiar „Kastello. Palate ale rromilor din România” , lansat la anuala de arh din 2008

Cat timp nu apar prin centrul oraselor, nu vad unde e problema. Ba chiar daca s-ar pune bariera si taxator la intrare, am scoate ceva bani de pe urma unor eventuali turisti :D

Some of them look nice

Some of them look nice

??
a mix of cultures, styles , in a haotic way

:ohno:

Actually most are pretty homogeneous. We'll get over this „oh no, gypsy palaces” thing and start exploiting those areas for unconventional tourism soon enough I think.

Some of them look nice

Which ones? :D

Yeah, that's what I wanna know.:lol:

Yeah, that's what I wanna know.:lol:

Are you looking to buying casa pe pamant? :D

I just noticed the new thread name. C'mon, put it back to Gypsy Mansions or smth like that

^^Uhm... no.
Are you looking to buying casa pe pamant? :D
Is it pricey?:D

You should rename the thread. Not into gypsie mansions, but into something like "Specific rroma architecture".

I've renamed the thread so you can post other examples of kitscky architecture, not just these palaces. There are plenty of examples in Romania beside Gypsy palaces.

"Specific rroma architecture".

nu exista asa ceva. poate Specific gypsy 'palaces'/mansions si atunci am intelege cu toti despre ce vorbim. asta nu este arhitectura, nici nu stiu cum s o numesc, pseudo-case, palate(intre ghilimele - cum am folosit la posibilul titlu), spatii construite, etc.

I have a feeling that foreigners won't get why they're collectively branded as kitsch architecture.

Cosmin, you may want to edit the first post though, it lacks a subject now that you changed the name.

nu inteleg cum de se dea dreptul de a construii asa ceva (ci cred ca nu se dea dreptul), dar ar trebuii date amenzi (daca chiar au milioane), nu stiu cum e legea romana, dar in Franta trebuie sa construiesti dupa reguli de arhitectura din zona (de exemplu in Bretania, trebuie sa fie casele acoperite cu "ardoise" ... forma "traditionala"...etc), ar evita genul asta de porcarii....

^^ Apropo ... Plimbandu-ma printr-un sat din Romania, ii spuneam lui fate'miu deunazi: ma, ia imagineaza-ti daca toate casele astea (si bisericile) in loc de acoperis de tabla ar avea acoperis traditional lemn, tigla sau maximum lindab*-rosu/maro :shocked: :|
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PS de ce draku nu se da o lege care, printre multe altele, sa interzica tabla pe casa?! Alooooooo BOC !!!

da, bine, detaliile astea sunt cea mai mica parte dintr o constructie, dar poate cea mai importanta pentru ca se vede cu ochiul liber.
casele tiganesti nu numai ca nu respecta niste reguli elementare de bun simt ca finisajele, ci sar peste toate normele de reglementare urbanistica, arhitecturala, etc, adica baza de plecare a unui proiect.
deci ori proiectele astea au fost facute fara autorizatie, ori au dat spaga la greu, ori au avut un proiect avizat cat de cat ok si l au schimbat de n ori pana a iesit ce se vede, ori proiectu a fost facut de un injinier specialist in toate.
deci, ce nu intelegi?!:nuts::lol: (bineinteles ca nu i de ras, e de plans)

^^ :lol: iti dai seama ca jegurile alea nici nu intra in discutie ... ma refer la case normale cu autorizatie de constructie

^^ Apropo ... Plimbandu-ma printr-un sat din Romania, ii spuneam lui fate'miu deunazi: ma, ia imagineaza-ti daca toate casele astea (si bisericile) in loc de acoperis de tabla ar avea acoperis traditional lemn, tigla sau maximum lindab*-rosu :shocked: :|
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PS de ce draku nu se da o lege care sa interzica tabla pe casa?! Alooooooo BOC !!!

pe tema asta aveam o discutie cu un coleg de breasla, care ar fi solutia pentru a interzice anumite invelitori inestetice, cum ar fi cele albastre cu inscriptia firmei pe ele, maaaare ca sa se vada, intr o zona cu locuire, sau mai rau, in locuri pitoresti, cu o numita incarcatura traditionala si de vreme ce eram doi existau si doua puncte de vedere.
1-o lege speciala care sa interzica folosirea anumitor materiale de constructii(vezi cazul invelitorilor din placi de azbociment)
2-in PUG uri mentionarea folosirii anumitor finisaje, culori, invelitori, etc.- dupa specificul fiecarei zone, sat, oras, acum cand s au creat premizele descentralizarii administratiei publice.

^^ si de ce nu se face asta?! Intreb pentru ca esti in breasla; si deci mai aporoape de adevar ... si imi inchipui ca au fost propuneri din partea multor arhitecti. Cat e dom'le sa dai o ordonanta ...pe langa miile deja existente?!!?!?!?!

PS In lege trebuie specificata si situatia in care proprietarul vrea sa schimbe tabla existenta. Impuse deci optiuni

in cazul in care proprietarul vrea sa schimbe tabla atunci se conformeaza noilor reglementari.

lol @ the $$$ signs in that house XD

nu inteleg cum de se dea dreptul de a construii asa ceva, nu stiu cum e legea romana, dar in Franta trebuie sa construiesti dupa reguli de arhitectura din zona.
nu stiu daca ai observat, dar toate casele seamana in kitchenie... :lol:

deci: "se respecta niste reguli de arhitectura din zona" :okay:

o casa "normala" nu ar fi la locul ei acolo. :|

atata timp cat sunt toate asa in sat nu vad care e problema...

in schimb, cand se amesteca cu restul... :gaah:

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PALATUL IMPERIAL SIBIU (centrul pozei)

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Facand abstractie de culoarea infecta, cladirea asta mi se pare ceva mai normala decat celelalte.

Those gypsy houses look like bastard offsprings resulting from sexual intercourse between several architectural styles...

Imagine that... Rococo giving head to Neo-Classicism while Modernism is banging East-Asian with Gothic and Art-Deco patiently awaiting their turn...

Facand abstractie de culoarea infecta, cladirea asta mi se pare ceva mai normala decat celelalte.
Looks like Shrek's crib.

Not beautiful for most of us, but indeed impressive, huge, weird looking and hard not to
look when you pass one.

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They live in a mall :lol:

Lol, tacky rich neighbourhoods is not a problem specific to Romania only.

In North America, we call these McMansions. These horrendous exercises in poor taste are very, very common in the suburbs of all major American and Canadian cities. Here's a handful of examples:


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While it may look as if these houses are made of stone, in reality they consist of a wooden structure and plywood panels, with imitation stone as cladding. At least those gypsy houses look somewhat funky, whereas North American bad taste is outright boring.

Cheers to kitsch :cheers:

Lol, tacky rich neighbourhoods is not a problem specific to Romania only.

In North America, we call these McMansions. These horrendous exercises in poor taste are very, very common in the suburbs of all major American and Canadian cities. Here's a handful of examples:


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/mihaitza/mcmansion1.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/mihaitza/mcMansion.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/mihaitza/800px-Mcmansion2.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/mihaitza/2006-08-mcmansion25.jpg

While it may look as if these houses are made of stone, in reality they consist of a wooden structure and plywood panels, with imitation stone as cladding. At least those gypsy houses look somewhat funky, whereas North American bad taste is outright boring.

Cheers to kitsch :cheers:
:bash: these houses remind me of the prefabricated fake wooden houses of some moovie studios :cheers:... but still look decent and can't compare them with those of the gipsies, they have the kitsch in their blood, sad is the fact they rise on romanian ground, and we won't get rid of them very soon. :ohno:

edit.

Stiam ca au construit Bricostore-ul chiar langa Foisor, dar chestia asta nu o vazusem.
In cadrul Foisorului isi are sediul departamentul Service al magazinului. :bash:

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Ah, si ce sa mai vorbim de abominatia asta? Imi vine sa plang numai cand ma uit. Cum sa lasi peretele exterior asa ???
Noroc ca nu e la bulevard, desi e foarte aproape. Strada Povernei, la 5 pasi de Bd. Lascar Catargiu.

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Aici chiar imi cer scuze pentru calitatea pozei :D

Alt sat tziganesc, dar din jud. Galati...

SPNw6LZ5dxQ

pagode chinezesti :doh:

:hilarious

Pagode tiganesti.:lol:

Ivesti si Toflea: "raiele"(fiecare citeste cum crede) prostului gust tiganesc in ceea ce priveste judetul din care fac parte...cam cum sunt Ciurea si Grajduri in Iasi. Si evident, mai mult de jumate din "palate" nu "are" bransament legal la reteaua de energie electrica...de fapt, la fiecare cateva luni merg aia de la electrica cu inima stransa si insotiti de mascati si le mai taie din bransamentele ilegale...but not for long:bash:
Probabil in aproape fiecare judet se gasesc asemenea "minunatii" de cartiere.:nuts:

Ivesti si Toflea: "raiele"(fiecare citeste cum crede) prostului gust tiganesc in ceea ce priveste judetul din care fac parte...cam cum sunt Ciurea si Grajduri in Iasi. Si evident, mai mult de jumate din "palate" nu "are" bransament legal la reteaua de energie electrica...de fapt, la fiecare cateva luni merg aia de la electrica cu inima stransa si insotiti de mascati si le mai taie din bransamentele ilegale...but not for long:bash:
Probabil in aproape fiecare judet se gasesc asemenea "minunatii" de cartiere.:nuts:

offtopic:

Vorbind prin absurd ca metoda: ce mi-ar placea daca ar exista un fel de garda nationala si cu ocazia unor scandaluri iscate intre clanurile acestor romi cu palate, sa intri cu tancul peste proprietatile lor si sa-i lasi in strada. Desi nedemocratic, la cat rau au pricinuit romii astia, a le etatiza palatele cu forta mi se pare echitabil.

ce mi-ar placea daca ar exista un fel de garda nationala si cu ocazia unor scandaluri iscate intre clanurile acestor romi cu palate, sa intri cu tancul peste proprietatile lor si sa-i lasi in strada. Desi nedemocratic, la cat rau au pricinuit romii astia, a le etatiza palatele cu forta mi se pare echitabil.
Daca e proprietatea lor (cu acte in regula) n-ai niciun drept sa faci asta, indiferent ce fantasme/boala pe tigani ai tu.

Daca e proprietatea lor (cu acte in regula) n-ai niciun drept sa faci asta, indiferent ce fantasme/boala pe tigani ai tu.

Trebuie sa fac o corectie, in special pentru faptul ca nu-mi place ideea de a fi rasist si apoi cum suna afirmatia de "a avea boala" fata de o minoritate. Daca stii si sunt sigur ca ai cunostinta de cauza, etatizarea d.p.d.v istoric poate surveni doar in cadrul statelor militarizate ( putere preluata de o junta militara) ori in statele comuniste. In prezent nici nu poate fi vorba de o asa masura, dar referindu-ma prin absurd in mesajul anterior ar fi o metoda de a le prelua proprietatile ( complet nereal si nedemocratic). :nuts:

Complet nereal si nedemocratic, dar ti-ar surade, nu? Asta era ideea.:)

Ivesti si Toflea: "raiele"(fiecare citeste cum crede) prostului gust tiganesc in ceea ce priveste judetul din care fac parte...cam cum sunt Ciurea si Grajduri in Iasi. Si evident, mai mult de jumate din "palate" nu "are" bransament legal la reteaua de energie electrica...de fapt, la fiecare cateva luni merg aia de la electrica cu inima stransa si insotiti de mascati si le mai taie din bransamentele ilegale...but not for long:bash:
Probabil in aproape fiecare judet se gasesc asemenea "minunatii" de cartiere.:nuts:

^^ niste impotenti ... care aplica legea selectiv :toilet:

Prima data cand aud o chestie de genul asta ... :)

Construirea vilelor cu turnulete si pagode, interzisa


Administratia orasului aradean Pecica a interzis construirea vilelor in a:) caror arhitectura proprietarii vor sa introduca turnuri, turnulete si pagode, considerandu-se ca acestea ar da un aspect de "manastire", informeaza NewsIn.

Petru Antal, primarul orasului Pecica, a spus ca persoanele care doresc sa construiasca vor avea o libertatea foarte mare de construire, doar ca vor trebui sa respecte arhitectura imobilelor vecine

Noile reguli vor fi aplicate atat in orasul Pecica, cat si in satele apartinatoare acestuia: Turnu si Sederhat.

Primarul din Pecica a mai spus ca, potrivit unei reglementari nationale, cei care vor sa ridice constructii care nu se incadreaza in Planul Urbanistic Zonal vor fi nevoiti sa prezinte Primariei un studiu de oportunitate realizat de un specialist

In orasul Pecica, precum si in satele apartinatoare acestuia, au fost construite dupa 1990 zeci de vile cu turnuri, turnulete si pagode, marea majoritate a proprietarilor fiind etnici romi.
... http://www.ziuaconstanta.ro/stiri-calde/stiri-calde/construirea-vilelor-cu-turnulete-si-pagode-interzisa-60947.html

i find those gypsy palaces pleasant to the eye.
i don't get it why some of you are against them.

@harekrsna: Are you one of them? :D

no,but i like their creativity and taste.
i have the impression that you don't like that style just because belong to gypsy .
if the style was german,im sure many will change their opinion 180 degree.

Alt sat tziganesc, dar din jud. Galati...

SPNw6LZ5dxQ

pagode chinezesti :doh:

:hilarious


WTF?:omg: Are we sure this video is not from Mumbai? These look like Hindu temples. "Numa in Romania!" I've heard this term many times from most Romanians and I always disagreed(everywhere there is people there is going to be shit), but this time... yup, Numa in Romania! :nuts:

Wow! Now I need to visit and check them out in real life. They look surreal, but on a positive note, anything that stands out and is different is an automatic tourist attraction. So in the long run if played wisely this can be turned into something positive, both for the Romanians and the Gypsies. There is an old saying, if life gives you lemons make lemonade. :cheers:

@harekrsna, AnOldBlackMarble: If you like them so much I wish you that all the gypsyes will move to your town (I have no ideea where you live), together with their Hindu temples. :cheers1:

these look more like Nepal temples not Mumbai.mumbai is very different in style then this.
there are gypsy in my town because i live in bucharest.
i was referring strictly at the gypsy architecture not at gypsy behavior.
these are a continuation of neo-romanian style if that is a surprise.
however whit extra roofs and bigger balconies.
i dont remember the name of the architect that first made this style.

Uhm... no!?
You're probably speaking about the so called Brâncovenesc style. But, seriously, no..

@harekrsna, AnOldBlackMarble: If you like them so much I wish you that all the gypsyes will move to your town (I have no ideea where you live), together with their Hindu temples. :cheers1:

A state of being is simply a state of mind. Change your state of mind and your being will change, whether Gypsy Romanian or otherwise.

Face reality. The Holocaust is not coming back. No one is "getting rid of gypsies" thus the only solution is evolution. I'm Romanian, but I grew up in United States so my perspective is different. For as much as Romanians bash Gypsies, sadly and unfortunately as I am a Romanian myself, Romanians are not that much better than Gypsies. Of all the European countries, even in the East, Romania is the dirtiest and the least evolved socially. On a personal level too many Romanians do not take pride in their personal property. They build nice homes but then don't take care of them. If you won't take care of your own living room, then how can you expect your country to be taken care of? Who will do it if you don't? A country is nothing more than the people of which it is made. Sorry for being critical but facts are facts.

Also I've never seen so much pessimism and dismissal anywhere in the world as in Romania. Every Romanian is a critic, yet not one has a viable solution. It is pointless to criticize if you don't have a solution at hand. If you think something is bad, than what is better? And not better idealistically(like making gypsies vanish) but a realistic and reasonable solution that can be put into function today? Today is the only day that matters. Tomorrow is a day that is infinitely unattainable, but destined by what you do today.

My point is that complaining and ridiculing what you dislike it will not make those things better. If Romanians would put in as much energy into creative problem solving as they do into pessimistic criticism the country would look like Austria. I'M NOT JOKING. Are Austrians some kind of aliens? No they are humans no more or less human than Romanians, but the difference is in their state of mind. When they encounter a problem they don't succumb to pessimistic self pity "oh poor us Austrians!" instead they put their heads together and come up with practical solutions.

It's all about attitude, and the beautiful part of it is that of all the things in this universe, attitude is the easiest of things to change. It is just a matter of the will to do so. Human beings have limited emotional energy and pessimism(depression) is exhausting. So we can waste our willpower on feeling sorry for ourselves, which only makes us weaker, more tired, less creative, and ages us faster, or we can change our attitude and start doing instead of wishing. Sorry, no matter what Disney may have said but wishes DO NOT come true. Only action brings results. Words, whether positive or negative are just whispers on a wind, here today, gone tomorrow.

I apologize for adding more criticism to existing criticism, but I wish all Romanians could see themselves through my eyes. I see a humor filled creative people with an amazing desire to do great things, but ravaged by a pessimistic fear so strong that it is preventing them from following through. Austrians, Swiss, Dutch whatever; these people are not some kind of alien races. They simply have a different "cultural personality" defined by a confident state of mind. They believe in themselves as a people, not necessarily as individuals. The fact of human reality is that you can only achieve in life that which you "believe" you are capable of, and unfortunately from what I have seen, as a people, many Romanians don't believe a whole lot in themselves. :ohno: This is what is causing problems in Romania, not the gypsies. The gypsies suffer from the same problem, just on a grander scale.

I'll repeat my apology. My criticism is not meant to be derogatory in anyway. In fact I always see more the positive side of Romanian culture than the negative, yet when I focus on it, the habit of the Romanian is to remind me of their love for negativity, and that can become overbearing after a while and it creates the need in me to blatantly point it out, because what is "seen" can be avoided. :cheers:

^^You lost me at that pathetic attempt of linking what bogdymol said with the Holocaust.

Godwin 1 - 0 AnOldBlackMarble
i have the impression that you don't like that style just because belong to gypsy .
if the style was german,im sure many will change their opinion 180 degree.
Yeah, because we're all morons with no personality, coherent thoughts and tastes or braincells.:nuts:

^^You lost me at that pathetic attempt of linking what bogdymol said with the Holocaust.

Godwin 1 - 0 AnOldBlackMarble




I was implying that there is no way to "get rid" of a people. The gypsies are there to stay and won't be going anywhere any time soon, and I agree that it is a problem, so now what is your solution?

Mine is a change of mindset, for both Romanians and Gypsies, trough education and then the resulting evolution. Neither side is currently winning Nobel's for brilliance. Both cultures are doing the same thing yet expecting different results. :nuts: If you've tried it once and it did not work, then twice, three times, then times... de cate ori o sa dai cu capu in gard pana iti dai seama ca mai repede se sparge capul de cat gardul? ...I think it's time to try something new. Hate and division was the old tried method and it has not worked, so lets try something new.

So with all due respect, what is your solution? I'm not saying mine is the best one, but if something is wrong, what's right?

Every Romanian is a critic, yet not one has a viable solution. It is pointless to criticize if you don't have a solution at hand.

you point the right thing out.
pessimism and extreme individuality(lack of team work spirit)
complaining whiteout finding solutions.
i always try to find solutions;now i have a plan for resolving the big problem of stray dogs.
my plan will go strait to mayors and other political administrative structures.

A state of being is simply a state of mind. Change your state of mind and your being will change, whether Gypsy Romanian or otherwise.

Face reality. The Holocaust is not coming back. No one is "getting rid of gypsies" thus the only solution is evolution.

Last week I visited the Memorial Museum of Auschwitz (http://en.auschwitz.org.pl/m/) and believe me when I say that such things should never happen again, regardless if the people are jews, gypsyes, african etc.

One solution, in my oppinion, to the gypsy problem in Romania would appling law! This means that they should be punished for their action severely and immediatly (this means that if he is caught stealing for example, his sentence will be given the following day so he can associate the crime he made with the sentence). And when I say sentence I don't mean "un an de inchisoare cu suspendare", because that is nothing for them, I mean hard sentences in prison, where they would have 2 choices: either they vork in the prison and found it with the money they produce and they would have decent conditions there, either they stay with the rats if they don't want to work. Another thing that could be done is stop giving "ajutor social" to those that stay in this (http://www.vestul.ro/uploads/modules/news/876/palat_tiganesc.jpg) kind of homes and drive this (http://bogtan.com/ziar/tmp/images/hummer1_w.jpg) type of cars.

Another good ideea, in my oppinion, is to check if their belongings (houses, cars, gold etc.) match with the income they have. An inspector could say to them: "I see you have 2 palaces, 2 Hummers, 4 Mercedes, 5 kg of gold jewerly and 100.000 Euro in your bedroom, but you are unemployed in the last 4 years, and when you were employed you had 300 Euro wage. Have you won the lottery? NO? So, how did you get such a wealth legaly?".

PS: This should be applied to all citizens, not only gypsyes, but what I am trying to say is that they would be the most affected part of our society because they hate working but they want to show everyone how wealthy they are.

Daca e proprietatea lor (cu acte in regula) n-ai niciun drept sa faci asta, indiferent ce fantasme/boala pe tigani ai tu.

Ai sa fii surprins, dar de obicei nu exista nici autorizatie de constructie si prin urmare nici acte de proprietate pe constructiile respective. Legal ar fi sa le demoleze.

un tigan se vaita ca a dat spaga 100000euro ca sa isi poata construi palatul ilegal.
la banii astia cred ca isi lua 10 autorizatii legale.
tiganii astia chiar nu stiu legile si se impusca singuri in picior.

mah mai las o moale cu subiectivismul asta.
sunt reguli esentiale in arhitectura care ar trebui aplicate.
cu asa ceva pici proiectul la scoala, e clar!

cladirea asta e facuta cu stangacie de o tanti nepriceputa, si pentru mai multe exemple consulta blogul cashidelucs.blogspot.com.
am mutat discutia aici ca sa-mi explici si mie daca vrei cum e cu regulile alea si de ce trebuie aplicate. Blogul ala nu exista.

Uite blogul aici: http://cashidelucs.wordpress.com (nu mai e pe Blogger, ci pe WP)

Un preot a pus geamuri termopan la o biserică săpată în piatră, veche de sute de ani


Conducerea Direcţiei de Cultură Buzău va sesiza Poliţia după ce preotul unei biserici săpate în piatră, care datează din anul 1274, din localitatea buzoiană Aluniş, a decis să monteze la lăcaşul de cult geamuri termopan. Sursa (http://www.mediafax.ro/social/un-preot-a-pus-geamuri-termopan-la-o-biserica-sapata-in-piatra-veche-de-sute-de-ani-7712439/)

:cripes:

Sursa (http://www.mediafax.ro/social/un-preot-a-pus-geamuri-termopan-la-o-biserica-sapata-in-piatra-veche-de-sute-de-ani-7712439/)

:cripes:

jumate din cladirile din blog chiar imi plac.
nu vad unde e shame-ul,exceptand balcoanele extra de la blocuri.

jumate din cladirile din blog chiar imi plac.
nu vad unde e shame-ul,exceptand balcoanele extra de la blocuri.

Bineinteles ca fiecare respecta parerea celuilalt, gustul sau exprimat, insa eu as fi curios sa citesc si o argumentare. Din cate ai observat, cei carora aceste cladiri nu le plac, argumenteaza(cateva ex.: culori stridente, "tzurtzuri" si "turnuri" aiurea, cladire 'nesimtita' - prea inalta, mare - langa cateva cladiri mici care pastreaza o anumita arhitectura unitara, etc.)

Castelele alea tiganesti arata bine.Balcoane largi ,coloane,lipsa monotoniei,culori vii,acoperisuri bine lucrate.

Chiar nu mai gasiti cladiri urate sau aiurea construite(netzinand cont de vecinatati) in Romania?

sunt o groaza si nici nu stii pe care sa le postezi mai intai.
uita te pe cashidelucs.wordpress.com (http://cashidelucs.wordpress.com/). dar atentie, iti poate provoca greatza!

Un pic de Bucuresti:

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/8770/wp000094.jpg

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/5153/wp000192a.jpg

Si un pic de Iasi:

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4679/wp000099.jpg

Urate acele termopane. Cladirea e superba, de altfel:
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2994/wp000101.jpg

Si un pic de Iasi:
........
Urate acele termopane. Cladirea e superba, de altfel

Cladirea superba e de fapt Bauhaus...iar eu gasesc geamurile, ramele ok.
In schimb cladirea aceea superba cu prispa(care a fost 'imbracata' in 'termopane')a fost mutilata.

Un pic de Bucuresti:
...............
(pentru a doua poza)
Pacat ca exista oameni cu posibilitati financiare, dar gustul lor :bash:e sub orice critica.

Faceti cunostinta cu matahala din centrul istoric al orasului Campulung Moldovenesc:

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk245/Somebody902/WP_000021.jpg
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk245/Somebody902/WP_000016.jpg
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk245/Somebody902/WP_000030.jpg

Iata si de la mine citeva exemple, benigne:

Rm Sarat, casa cu faianta pe toata fatada si cu poarta monumentala:

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff4/tozlovanuvlad/Divers/DSC04079.jpg

Termopane albe la geamia din Cernavoda:

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff4/tozlovanuvlad/Divers/DSC01255.jpg

Prostul gust e valabil si la alte culte. Iata o biserica din Azuga:

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff4/tozlovanuvlad/Divers/DSC00679.jpg

La geamurile laterale nu au fost in stare nici sa realizeze curbura, au aproximat-o prin segmente.

In Curtea de Arges avem aceasta casa de linga Biserica Domneasca, zugravita intr-o culoare cel putin neinspirata:

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff4/tozlovanuvlad/Divers/DSC08496.jpg

Noile reglementari in domeniul instalatiilor de gaze prevad instalarea contoarului afara. Iata la ce situatii absurde se poate ajunge (in Sinaia):

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff4/tozlovanuvlad/Divers/DSC09155.jpg

Prostul gust si mitocania in constructii sint vizibile la tot pasul in tara noastra. Sint atit de comune incit nici nu mai sint bagate in seama, de aceea avem atit de putine poze pe aici. Iar acum, daca m-ati provocat, o sa va aprovizionez cu darnicie :)

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff4/tozlovanuvlad/Divers/DSC09155.jpg

Spune-mi te rog ca poza asta e aranjata in photoshop!!!!!!

Heheee, nu obisnuiesc sa modific pozele :)
Cred ca as putea sa va spun aproximativ pe unde e minunea; daca aveti drum mergeti sa vedeti cu ochii vostri. E si in Google street view:

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff4/tozlovanuvlad/Divers/Sinaia-gaze.jpg

45°19'50.04"N/ 25°33'35.25"E

http://g.co/maps/6dtsb :bash::madwife::gaah:

La gaze normativul este complet absurd

Let's switch to English. Here is another example of stupid gas installation regulations, in Fagaras (Transylvania):

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff4/tozlovanuvlad/Divers/P3280093-1.jpg
(they require that each flat should be connected individually and the gas counter must be placed at street level in order to be easily read)

Now let's look at another sample of modern architecture, a new "style", commonly found not only in Bucharest but also in Turkey and ex-Soviet republics (especially those ending in *.stan):

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff4/tozlovanuvlad/Divers/Bucuresti/DSC04305.jpg

This building was apparently built with no permits about 8 years ago. It still stands, alive and well...

O pensiune din Busteni, constructie din zburdalnicii ani '90:

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff4/tozlovanuvlad/Divers/DSC00802.jpg

E amplasata vis-a-vis de palatul Cantacuzino.

Cah, tear it down!

A really bad idea of extending liveable space in Tecuci.

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/5929/20120426160821.jpg
Shot at 2012-04-30

Looks as a store extension.

No, not the white building which is the public toilet of the railway station, but the balcony on the third floor which looks to have been closed with... mud? over iron frames and some odd-looking windows which could be reclaimed from another project.

Oh, sorry, now I see. As in many other places the lack of education and poverty are the root causes of these problems.

I agree with you. And a total disregard of building codes and city regulations. The problem is that petty crime is tolerated in this country and I would loved to see a Rudy Giuliani's style "zero tolerance even on small offences" approach. More details on that can be found here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_windows_theory).

This in our "original democracy" :)
Let's look at another masterpiece of naive architecture in Bucharest, near the new Basarab bridge:

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff4/tozlovanuvlad/Divers/Bucuresti/DSC08728.jpg
(Look at the stairs, they have no railing and the rainwater pipes join in a peculiar way)

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff4/tozlovanuvlad/Divers/Bucuresti/DSC08733.jpg

Of course, in the yard we can find an advertising panel:

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff4/tozlovanuvlad/Divers/Bucuresti/DSC08734.jpg

^^ Apropo ... Plimbandu-ma printr-un sat din Romania, ii spuneam lui fate'miu deunazi: ma, ia imagineaza-ti daca toate casele astea (si bisericile) in loc de acoperis de tabla ar avea acoperis traditional lemn, tigla sau maximum lindab*-rosu/maro :shocked: :|
*http://www.lindab.ro/frameset/run_frame.asp?M=1&RoomID=&LangRef=26&Area=23&topID=3&ArticleID=4907&MenuID=225&Template=../templates/a_masterweb_standard.asp&T=39&ExpandID=1434

PS de ce draku nu se da o lege care, printre multe altele, sa interzica tabla pe casa?! Alooooooo BOC !!!
LASA MAI, CA I BUNA TABLA !!! NU STII CA TRAGE TRAZNETUL LA EA?:banana:

Sursa (http://www.mediafax.ro/social/un-preot-a-pus-geamuri-termopan-la-o-biserica-sapata-in-piatra-veche-de-sute-de-ani-7712439/)

:cripes:
DESTEPT DOMNU POPA... E CANDIDAT LA ACADEMIE ?:nuts:

In the old part of Sinaia town we can find Rowa Dany hotel, a very cheap looking building with white plastic windows and horrific green tar-tiles:

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff4/tozlovanuvlad/Divers/Negative/DSC04892.jpg

Look for comparison at the neighboring villa, see the beauty of the natural stone, wood, metal and the skill of yesterday's architects and craftsmen:

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff4/tozlovanuvlad/Divers/Negative/DSC04894.jpg

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff4/tozlovanuvlad/Divers/Negative/DSC00023.jpg

That hotel just does not belong there.

An those new villas from behind the old one :puke::doh:

I hate almost all new buldings. The modernist style sucks + the new materials and interior styles makes a lot of bulding to look inside like a cheap bulding.
If you are trying to reproduce and old bulding is hard job, because you may have the same style, but the materials have and different look, so you have something that looks old, but dosen't gives you the feeling of an old thing.

And allmost all new apartaments (flats) buildings are looking as bad (or even worser) then the commie blocks!

Stadionul Dinamo a ajuns intr-o stare umilitoare. Din cate am putut eu sa vad, intrarile in complex sunt construite candva intre anii '20-40 si nu li s-a acordat deloc respect:

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk245/Somebody902/WP_000103.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk245/Somebody902/WP_000101.jpg

S-au autorizat tot felul de monstruozitati pe terenurile din jur.

Clădirile de la Stad. Dinamo nu au cum să fie din anii '20 pt. că în 1928 pe acolo încă era o groapă de extragere a nisipului (de unde şi porecla de "Groapa" dată stadiounului). În anii '30 a fost înfiinţat un velodrom acolo, însă cele mai vechi construcţii de la Dinamo cred că-s de la sf. anilor '40 - anii '50.

Eu m-am luat dupa ramasita aceea de catarg, precum si dupa tigla mediteraneana, populare in acea perioada. A fost doar o estimare.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1M3lDQ2hgY

:bash:
Romanians strike back. :lol:

buR6ErDZM6M

^^ Oameni simpli care si-au dorit toata viata o vila maaaare cu WC in casa.
Vorba unui verisor pe la inceputul anilor '80: mamaaaaaa, am fost la X si am facut caca in casa :lol:

Da' bani de încălzire au? :lol:

Și în Certeze ca peste tot în România se observă aceeași indiferență totală a cetățenilor față de spațiul public. Oricât de mare și scumpă casa, oricât de îngrijită curtea - totul se oprește la limita gardului scump, din fier forjat sau inox. Vreo doi acoperiseră cu pavele spațiul dintre gard și șosea dar nu ca să creeze un trotuar sau altă amenajare urbanistică ci ca să parcheze optim și neapărat la vedere "ochiosul" (Mercedes-ul cu patru faruri ovale, un "must-have" maramureșean). În rest, nimic. Câteva bănci stinghere amintesc de lavițele de la poartă și de comunitatea care se închega în jurul lor seară de seară, de grupurile separate de vârste dar unite de apartenența la experiențe comune, unde bătrânii priveau critic și bârfeau pe întrecute manevrele tinerilor spre a atrage atenția fetelor, isprăvile gospodarilor și vrednicia nevestelor. Acum sunt sate moarte, locuite de bătrâni și copii mici, unde fațada și aparența de belșug și fericire contează, unde făloșenia rămâne singura valoare.

Dar ceea ce mi se pare esențial în acel sat e că are un aer atât de familiar. De la gardul din stânga și până la cel din dreapta spațiul public arată identic cu cel din orice sat din Moldova, din Muntenia, Oltenia sau Ardeal. România publică este profund uniformă de la Satu Mare la Negru-Vodă, de la Rădăuți la Orșova. Și asta mă face să resping hotărât orice discurs prin care o regiune e declarată a priori drept superioară celorlalte. Păi dacă e superioară cum se face că mergând prin ea am senzația de România și nu de Ungaria și nici de Germania? Cum se face că oameni atât de gospodari și cu un simț al comunității mai dezvoltat nu au reușit să îngrijească suprafețe de 10-30mp deși decorează impecabil hectare de curte? Cum se face că nu-s în stare să aleagă reprezentanți mai breji nici în comunele și orașele lor și nici la centru? Păi nu sunteți mai buni? De ce nu conduceți? Ori poate sunteți la fel dar vă place să vă amăgiți că sunteți superiori? Iar să te minți singur mi se pare dovadă de prostie. De aia îl bănuiesc eu pe Sabin Gherman că e prost de bubuie.

Vorba unui verisor pe la inceputul anilor '80: mamaaaaaa, am fost la X si am facut caca in casa :lol:
asta îmi aminteşte de o cunoştiinţă care atunci când mergea la recensământ înainte de '89 întreba oamenii: ""Ce toaleta ai, cu apă sau cu vânt?":lol:


România publică este profund uniformă de la Satu Mare la Negru-Vodă, de la Rădăuți la Orșova. Și asta mă face să resping hotărât orice discurs prin care o regiune e declarată a priori drept superioară celorlalte. Păi dacă e superioară cum se face că mergând prin ea am senzația de România și nu de Ungaria și nici de Germania?.
Nu cred asta. Chiar nu e nicio diferenţă între satele transilvănene, marea majoritate vechi, şi celelalte? De acord că noile construcţii sunt cam la fel peste tot şi se construieşte haotic în toată ţara, dar nu cred că trebuie generalizat per ansamblu când există spaţii publice mai aranjate decât celelalte,(inclusiv la sate) iar calitatea spaţiului urban e alta în Transilvania.

Hunedoara, Romania, saptamana trecuta:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8430/7740253514_6b3ab7cb69_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bogdymol/7740253514/)
Architecture wall of shame (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bogdymol/7740253514/) by bogdymol (http://www.flickr.com/people/bogdymol/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7120/7740253852_67c2227c87_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bogdymol/7740253852/)
Architecture wall of shame (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bogdymol/7740253852/) by bogdymol (http://www.flickr.com/people/bogdymol/), on Flickr

Nu va lasati inselati de aparente... sunt 2 case castele diferite...

Turnuleţe, turnuleţe. Românii au copiat modar, dar altfel: trag turnuri în mijlocul zonelor cu clădiri maxim P +4

Are cineva idee, ce tramvaiu' 5 vrea să reprezintat stuiaia aia de la P-ţa Presei pusă pe locul statuii lui Lenin? De ce îi ies ăluia din cap lalele? ^^
Eu am altă idee de statuie pe acolo.

Pot sa inteleg de ce rodeo are voie sa vorbeasca asa despre cei Ardeal & Maramures (plus ca habar n-are in ce judet al tarii este Certeze ) ?

^^
Daca ai citi de cateva ori postul sau, poate (un mare "poate") ti-ai da seama ca vorbeste despre niste probleme intalnite in toata tara, nu doar in Ardeal/Maramures.

Apoi, cum anume vorbeste el despre cei din Ardeal si Maramures? Pentru ca as putea sa iti arat din nou cum ai vorbit tu despre restul, si atunci ne intrebam cum ai scapat doar cu postul sters :|

Aici sper sa fie multi responsabili pentru PUD, PUZ si PUG, in special pentru orasul Bucuresti:
cum e posibil ca in orasul Bucuresti sa apara sute de cladiri(unele chiar si cu zece etaje!) care au un acoperis cu panta, precum e tipic pentru localitatile montane pentru cabane si case unifamiliare? Cum e posibil sa vedem in Bucuresti(dupa ce in perioada interbelica s-a construit enorm de mult sub influenta stilului Bauhaus) blocuri P+2,3,4,5, +10! cu acoperisuri pentru cabane de munte?? (cu tot felul de ferestre in acoperis, imitand intr-un fel mansarda!!!)
Sau cum e posibil sa apara o cladire-monstru ca cea din Piata Libertatii(in fata Parcului Carol), colorata ca un papagal, urat proportionata, fara nici o arhitectura?