Can mods please answer me since when Caucasus are in Asia?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwest_Asia#Countries_in_West_Asia

ARe u joking or what? And the link u gave. :lol:

Armenia partially in Europe but not Azerbaijan and Georgia may be partially in Europe? :lol:

Damn, someones need to get some geography lessons.

Its Azerbaijan and Georgia whos partially in Europe as both countries has territority north to Big Caucasus range, Armenia are totally in Asia since Armenia has no Big Caucasus range in its territority, not even close. Armenia are only politically Europe, Azerbaijan and Georgia are territorially too.

Just shows how funny is the link u gave. I corrected it.

Azerbaijan should be included in Europe section.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r480/Zakali_2008/800px-Map_of_Europe_political.png

That's nice :)

There is a big mistake to putting azeri thread to Asian section since the country could be either in Eurosrapers or Middle East sections. We had many discussions and arguments about this topic before and i still hope that the thread will be removed in one of those sections.
Georgaphically the country is considered between Europe and Asia, geopolitically it is a part of Europe. Those who have doubts about my words can check the websites of Council of Europe, European Union etc.

I from Russia and I think that Azerbaijan is a European country. May be problems with documents:lol:May be your country doesnt have much money to be European? It was only a joke.

^^:lol: Azerbaijan has enough money. Azerbaijan's Economy is fastest growing economy in the world :bash:

I don't see how would Azerbaijan be a Middle East country. It could have been put here or in Euroscrapers but some mods were reluctant to get yet another small forum within Euroscrapers so we put it here. Better have something than nothing. Plus this is now the Caucasus forum which opens the possibility of having the other Caucasus countries forums if they get the same level of development and projects in the future. :cheers:

^^ I agree with you, but Asian forum is too different for the country like Azerbaijan. Those countries in this forum are Far-East and Central Asia, while most of the sources consider Azerbaijan a part of Europe or on the border of Europe and Middle East. It is definitely a mistake to put Caucasus here :( I hope they will relocate it in the future.
As i said before, if some people moderators or common users still have doubts about the european ties of Azerbaijan, i can prove it to them easily.

Hey guys, seriously.

Will this remain like this?

I mean Caucasus and Asia just dosen't go together.

Just look at the countries in same section.

Pakistan, Taiwan, Sri Lanka and all that others?

LOL.

I suggest Azerbaijan to be together with Turkey in European forum. For example like Germany & Austria and they speak same language. We speak same language with Turkey. And our continent 95% belongs to Europe.

I suggest Azerbaijan to be together with Turkey in European forum. For example like Germany & Austria and they speak same language. We speak same language with Turkey. And our continent 95% belongs to Europe.

It is pity to see it in Asian forum with no countries in common :(

It is pity to see it in Asian forum with no countries in common :(

A little bit except Kazakhstan, they are just soooo in distant.

Why dosen't mods answer about this?

A little bit except Kazakhstan, they are just soooo in distant.

Why dosen't mods answer about this?

I don't know :( I tried my best about it. I will do it again very soon. We have to be removed to Euroscrapers

Azerbaijan is middle eastern. i dont under why people want to be european so badly, be proud of who you are.

Azerbaijan is middle eastern. i dont under why people want to be european so badly, be proud of who you are.

It is not typical Middle Eastern, that is the point!

from what i studied, it is said that Azerbaijan is a European country.

^ how come? it is so similar to iran and iran is middle eastern

^ how come? it is so similar to iran and iran is middle eastern

It has something from Iran, not that much similarity and it is secular, don't forget that!

Oh shut up you European wannabe's.Your country probably will not exist any way.It is an Iranian province.Azerbaijan Land of Fire.

Also keep in mind every one Iran controlled all the way into what is know Derbent Russia.You can still find Iranian fortresses in Southern Russia.We controlled that and all of the Caucus Region only a century ago before these fake countries started emerging after the Russians and British came along.What is ours will return.

LOL you gave up all your Caucasian khanates to Russia without a fight 2 centuries ago.

You clearly do not know a thing.What do I expect from such a retarted thread any way.

^ how come? it is so similar to iran and iran is middle eastern

First of all, we are talking geographically.

Secondly, care to elobrate how it is so similiar to Iran?

:lol:

You are mentally ill. And you have no right to post in this section if you don't respect our nation.

Your country has never been apart of Europe face it and never will be.Quit with the Turanian Euro-wannabe dreams.It's really pathetic.

Your country has never been apart of Europe face it and never will be.Quit with the Turanian Euro-wannabe dreams.It's really pathetic.

You are the one pathetic, with your obession. :)

How come so? We participate in everything related Europe, a good part of our territorities are within Europe geographically, according to the widely accepted Big Caucasus watershed dividing Europe & Asia. :)

And Azerbaijan is a member of European council.

What more....

You are the one pathetic, with your obession. :)

How come so? We participate in everything related Europe, a good part of our territorities are within Europe geographically, according to the widely accepted Big Caucasus watershed dividing Europe & Asia. :)

And Azerbaijan is a member of European council.

What more....

I don't have an obsession,Clearly you guys do making hillarious threads like this.

Any way your not in Europe geographically or politically or any thing.You have nothing in common with Europeans.I could careless if your in some European council.

I don't have an obsession,Clearly you guys do making hillarious threads like this.

Any way your not in Europe geographically or politically or any thing.You have nothing in common with Europeans.I could careless if your in some European council.

Why don't you elobrate?

Do you know that Big Caucasus range defines the border between Europe and Asia?

So why Elbrus are considered as the highest peak of Europe? :)

Politically, we are 100% Europe. Eastern Europe membership, Council of Europe, Playing in UEFA, participating in everything Europe related, so what do you define as politically Europe? :lol:

Geographically, like explained, we have a good part too.

Now, stick to your own and leave us alone. :)

Oh shut up you European wannabe's.Your country probably will not exist any way.It is an Iranian province.Azerbaijan Land of Fire.

Also keep in mind every one Iran controlled all the way into what is know Derbent Russia.You can still find Iranian fortresses in Southern Russia.We controlled that and all of the Caucus Region only a century ago before these fake countries started emerging after the Russians and British came along.What is ours will return.
Stop political discussions here which gonna bring us to nowhere

LOL you gave up all your Caucasian khanates to Russia without a fight 2 centuries ago.

Don't say stupid things here. Read the story how Gandja Khanate was fitghing with Russians. It was not a short fight but lasted for months.

I don't have an obsession,Clearly you guys do making hillarious threads like this.

Any way your not in Europe geographically or politically or any thing.You have nothing in common with Europeans.I could careless if your in some European council.

Leave this thread please. More provocative and unrespectful talks about Azerbaijan here and i will apply to moderators to ban the users violating it here.

Please,Your country didin't even exist then. I'm not affraid of you Turks you will not censor me.This is free to the public.

I'am the original Wolf Hunter.Slayer of the Turanian pipe dream.

http://deadball.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/300_wolf1.jpg

It was not Iran, you Iran belonged to Azeries. Remember the Sefevi Empire ruled by Shakh Ismayil Khatai with the capital in the city populated by Azeris - Tebriz

And he don't even know that Derbent is an ethnic Azeri city. ^^

Leave it, hes just some kid.

Azeri's are nothing more then Turkified Persians.But because you are Turkic that means your not Indo-Europeans.You share nothing in common with Europe.

Algeria or Libya is going to claim to be European?

Ah, thats it. Our boy talks here. "Because your not Indo-European, your Turkic, you share nothing in common with Europe". Yeah, don't worry, we know Iranians speak Indo-European language but you are stupid enough to say that it has anything to do with Europe. :lol:. Many nations east of Iran from Afghanistan to India and Bangladesh do that aswell, so whats your point. :)

Again, you didn't answer me. Don't Big Caucasus range divide Europe and Asia? So how can you say that Azerbaijan has no territority in Europe. Care to elobrate? Do it please. :)

Azeri's are nothing more then Turkified Persians.But because you are Turkic that means your not Indo-Europeans.You share nothing in common with Europe.

Algeria or Libya is going to claim to be European?

I already reported to admins about the user Mavey.

Yeah they speak Indo-European tongue because they are Iranic.But good luck to your country but stop trying to be some thing you are not.It is pathetic and you just look like idiots.Just like the Turks trying to get into the EU and having a door slammed on it's face.Get a better self of esteem.

I already reported to admins about the user Mavey.

I didin't break any rules.I put my opinion on the thread.I will keep putting away your Turanian dreams.I'am the Wolf Hunter.Just because you do not like opinion.Deal with it and go educate your selves.

I already reported to admins about the user Mavey.

Galandar, we need an Azerbaijani mod for this section. Its stupid to not have one anyway.

And one that can always take care of likes of Mavey instantly.

You can be one, for exampele. We need to discuss it, I already made a thread.

Yeah they speak Indo-European tongue because they are Iranic.But good luck to your country but stop trying to be some thing you are not.It is pathetic and you just look like idiots.Just like the Turks trying to get into the EU and having a door slammed on it's face.Get a better self of esteem.

^^ again I saw nothing related to my post. Indo-European language group has nothing to do with Europe.

Again you didn't answer my post. Azerbaijan has territority in Europe according to the Big Caucasus watershed. If you disagree, then why Elbrus, a Mountain Peak in Caucasus range are considered as Europes highest peak? :). Just elobrate this, please.

Get out of here and take your obession with you.

Galandar, we need an Azerbaijani mod for this section. Its stupid to not have one anyway.

And one that can always take care of likes of Mavey instantly.

You can be one, for exampele. We need to discuss it, I already made a thread.

Thats exactly why you do not have mods.Because you would censor people.You fool.

Mavey, you came to this topic. You talks negatively about our history, nation, heritage and you openly says i am a wolf hunter while knowing the legends of antic Turcic people about wolves. You say we never existed... And all this in the section where we discuss the gepgraphical location of Azerbaijan. This is what you breached and i really hope you will be punished for that. I promise you i will do my best in order to do it!

You are breaking the rules of course, you have no right to come here and disrespect our nation. Look at your attitude.

Mavey, you came to this topic. You talks negatively about our history, nation, heritage and you openly says i am a wolf hunter while knowing the legends of antic Turcic people about wolves. You say we never existed... And all this in the section where we discuss the gepgraphical location of Azerbaijan. This is what you breached and i really hope you will be punished for that. I promise you i will do my best in order to do it!

Kiss my pale Persian ass.

Kick my Persian ass.

Corrected. :)

^^No comments :ohno:
Is it the education you get in Iran? Poor people, I understand how hard it is for you to live in a theocratic state :ohno:

This the traditional partition of Eurasia:

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/951/worldalap.jpg

blue: europe
magenta: asia
white line: Country and Regional borders
black line: Europe in the western and Central European political narratives
red line: Europe in the western cultural discourses

Accurate place of Azerbaijan: Near East in Asia. This area the former Ottoman Empire's and Russian Transcaucasus area. The Near-East definitely not Europe, but somewhat westernised or russificated.

The Near Eastern countries and disputed areas:
Turkey, Abkhazia, Georgia, South-Ossetia, Armenia, Nagorno-Karabakh, Azerbaijan, Syria, Lebanon, Israel, Palestine, Jordan, Cyprus and Northern Cyprus.

http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/eunewneb.gif

http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/europe/eucaps.gif

No one is claiming Azerbaijan to be 100% European state. It is obvious that it is located on the croassroads of Europe and Asia. I can prove it in different ways. Georgaphically it is laid in both Europe and Asia divided by Big Caucasian mountains into two parts. European part is some 40% of the whole territory.

Politics: Azerbaijan is in OSCE, Council of Europe, it signed the Paris Charty, it is in Eastern Partnership with EU, European Court on Human Rights

Economy: European Bank on Development and Reconstruction and some organisations on specific issues

Sport: UEFA and all the rest European sport associations. Also in the Olympics Azerbaijan is represented in the list of European states.


P.S. The only European organisation Azerbaijan is not a member in is EU. But here is the proof that EU considers Azerbaijan - European state: http://europa.eu/abc/european_countries/others/index_en.htm

Yes, not 100%. The near-east a typical borderland, here more worlds meets. Since the Roman Empire this a transitional space between the east and the West. Is that orients himself towards the West, than now. And is, that towards the Oriens. Because of this this name: Near East. The east what there is near to us. To Europe. :cheers:

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Dear Friends!

Sometimes it's better just not to answer to some stupid posts. You see he is mentally ill and his country cannot give him proper education as it's now more concerned about nuclear weapon than welfare of their people.

This is typically nationalistic guy, he cannot take the things as they're today dreaming about bright history of the country which is classified as a country with no future today.

I think religion plays a really big role

I think religion plays a really big role

I didn't want to say that, but I do agree with you. It's something wrong with education in that country.

Thank you Evetraveller. :)

Surely he made a fool out of himself and his nation.

hiristenmeyin, bele gicler coxdu burda.
zehlem gedirde bu ikidene gonshularimizdan.

We are raising up this issue once more. So I do really hope this time our forum is going to be moved to European section, namely Euroscrapers :)

dude i support you, pls do what is needed as a moderator, and we are ready for our duties as users! :) best of luck!

support! come on Galandar...

We are raising up this issue once more. So I do really hope this time our forum is going to be moved to European section, namely Euroscrapers :)

Hello Galandar,

I did write a message to Jan about this. Since you are the moderator of the azeri forum, i can only advice you to do the same to give some weight to this problem. Be courteous and clear in your explanations with him, it's the "big boss" and is often busy.

Cheers and good luck !

Hello Galandar,

I did write a message to Jan about this. Since you are the moderator of the azeri forum, i can only advice you to do the same to give some weight to this problem. Be courteous and clear in your explanations with him, it's the "big boss" and is often busy.

Cheers and good luck !

Thanks a lot for your support! :) I will do so

Azerbaijan must be in European section :)

and Georgia also...Galandar, Gurcustan admini varsa onunlada daniwin,ikinizde ayri ayri muraciet edin...belke daha effektli olar? P.s: bizimde muracietimize ehtiyac varsa,bizde yazaq.

Azerbaijan is member of Europarliment, we got European life style, we got Eurovision and European standards included so what do we have to do to join this bloody Eurosection?

Sure it's armenians? The hatred is ridiculous sometimes.

Anyways, I support the idea of moving the Azerbaijan-section to the European section.

Erm, first of all, how are the last three posts related to the topic?
Secondly, I support the motion and think that the forums/threads of the 3 South Caucasian countries should be moved to the European section.

Obviously Georgia and Azerbaijan need to be moved to Euroscrapers. Perhaps Azerbaijan isn't 100% European, but it has almost nothing to do with Asian countries. Politically, it is as much European as any other country. It's even won EUROvision now ;)

The reason I couldnt find the Azerbaijani forum at first was because I was looking in Euroscrapers. Its odd to have it in the same forum as Japan, Vietnam, Indonesia, etc.

If Turkey is in there, then the Azerbaijani forum should definatly be moved to Euroscrapers.

Plus, it would get more traffic :okay:

The question is simple, how European do Azeri's feel themselves?

In what do they envy Europe or it's citizens, or what aspects of Europe do they dislike?

we are "eurocaucasian" =) (its new term) europeans of Caucasus... Nobody envy europeans , or tries to be there,bcs we r already in Europe!

I see your tension guys. As moderator of SSC responsible for Azerbaijan, I really try to do my best in order to solve this issue out. From my side, I already applied to the administration of SSC to assist us and I am also appreciating the support I get from other moderators of SSC. Many thanks!

Obviously Georgia and Azerbaijan need to be moved to Euroscrapers. Perhaps Azerbaijan isn't 100% European, but it has almost nothing to do with Asian countries. Politically, it is as much European as any other country. It's even won EUROvision now ;)

The Eurovision Song Contest is not only open to European countries. As long as a broadcasting company of a country becomes a member of the European Broadcasting Union, that country could send a contestant.

As far as I know, Qatar will send its contestant next year. :)

The Eurovision Song Contest is not only open to European countries. As long as a broadcasting company of a country becomes a member of the European Broadcasting Union, that country could send a contestant.

As far as I know, Qatar will send its contestant next year. :)

EBU has once more declined Kazakhstani bid for a membership which opens doors for participation in Eurovision Song Contest. In this case I do not see Qatar in the contest either.

Qatar?? are you serious? you must be kidding me...

Well, it is absolutely shouldnt be recognized as we- Azerbaijan is tryin to be part of Europe, coz this idea is absurd in the case of already being part of Europe both geographically and politically.

It is a true fact that Azerbaijan is member of European Council, OSCE and various European organisations in terms of political aspect.
And when it comes to geography it might be quite debatable issue coz in some sources it used to be shown as part of Middle East, Central Asia or Eastern Europe. In fact, recent sources widely accept Azerbaijan, Georgia and armenia as part of Caucasus and therefore in Eastern Europe due to integration in political terms. Therefore, I suggest the moderators of SSC to move our section to Euroscrapers.

But on the other hand, I would like to mention the fact that culturally Azerbaijan is in the junction of Europe and Asia. This is due to historical influences in these territories. However, this is the main asset of Azerbaijan which makes it unique and special rather than other countries in the region. I would like to conclude it like this- Azerbaijan is gateway where Europe ends, Asia starts.

And I would like to thank to Galandar, who really does his best in order to solve this issue and hope that we will see Azerbaijan in other section of SSC forum.

I also support the movement of Azerbaijan section to European section. Location of Azerbaijan is both in Europe and Asia, but politically it is more European. Also, it is member of Council of Europe, UEFA and other European organizations.

Dear forumers, I have opened a poll in this thread so that from now on we all can vote for the solution we would like to be implemented for Azerbaijani subforum at SSC. The poll will be opened during the next one month and I would like to let you know that the poll is open and it shows not only the number of votings but also for whom users vote. So feel free to make your choice!

I would like it together with Georgia to be moved to Caucasus subsection within European section

Yes!

I like the idea of a Caucasas subforum. The European mods and admins won't like the idea of two new small subforums entering Euroscrapers but one combined medium sized subforum is feasable. Galandar and Kokoity (if he wants) can be the mods of the subforum.


If the Turkish forum is in Euroscrapers then why can't Euroscrapers host the Caucasus forum?

i voted for to be moved to european ssc but i want/support 3th answear:( Caucasus subsection within eurossc.

I would like it together with Georgia to be moved to Caucasus subsection within European section

Dear forumers,

In case any of you would like us to stay here please let us know so we can count the number of users thinking we should stay in Asian forum.

Thanks for you attention!

mence gelen ile kimi sebr edek! Eurovisiondan sonra Azerbaycanin harda oldugunu ozleri bilecek! Dovur tpoylarin,at a4kisi taxanlarin,predubijdeniyali insanlarin dovrudu. Ordaki komentleri oxuyandan sonra wok oldum,ve bele qerara geldim ki harda olmagimizdan asili olmayaraq "varligimiz" daha vacibdir!

I already voted to be moved to Caucasus subsection within European section.

Azerbaijan is also a founding member of GUAM Organization for Democracy and Economic Development ;)

http://guam-organization.org/sites/default/files/minnelli_logo.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9d/Europe_location_GUAM.png/631px-Europe_location_GUAM.png

I voted I would like it together with Georgia to be moved to Caucasus subsection within European section

Guys for your awereness, there is a big possibility that in next 24 hours our forums (both Azerbaijan and Georgia) could be moved to European section namely to Euroscrapers under one roof called Caucasus. So in case it happens please be prepared for this. Thanks!

You did a good job Galandar with your poll here and arguments in Euroscrapers, welcome (back) to Europe ! :cheers:

You did a good job Galandar with your poll here and arguments in Euroscrapers, welcome (back) to Europe ! :cheers:

Thank you very much for your support and input. I appreciate this! :cheers1:

Galandar, will the layout be similar to the Germany & Austria forum?

блин я не туда проголосовал=( я за 3 вариант!

And the azeri brothers in Iran? =/
but if it to happiness of the nation,say to people that I support
Turkey & Caucasus together:yes:

Galandar, will the layout be similar to the Germany & Austria forum?

I would like us to keep the structure we have here. Both Azerbaijani and Georgian forums should be under the roof called 'Caucasus' the way Germany and Austria are under the roof 'Germany & Austria'

And the azeri brothers in Iran? =/
but if it to happiness of the nation,say to people that I support
Turkey & Caucasus together:yes:
I can not help it in this way. In any case even now we are still in two separate sections with Iran located in Middle East subsection of Continental section and Azerbaijan in Central Asia & Caucasus subsection of Asian section.

Welcome to Euroscrapers :cheers1:

Welcome to Euroscrapers :cheers1:

Thanks for a warm welcoming! :D

:drunk:

Azarbaijan is in middle east not in central asia or europe as well as Armenia and Turkey and Iran!!!

Azarbaijan is in middle east not in central asia or europe as well as Armenia and Turkey and Iran!!!

Wise words to end this debacle.

What a fiasco this has been, this has got to be a prank. Next will be Iraq in the EU. :ohno:

Next will be Iraq in the EU. :ohno:
It will not :)

It will not :)

Because you think Azerbaijan is in Europe?

If we are to include all the former colonies from outside europe like Azerbaijan, Argentina or Algeria, might as well call the world europe.

Because you think Azerbaijan is in Europe?

If we are to include all the former colonies from outside europe like Azerbaijan, Argentina or Algeria, might as well call the world europe.

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Welcome aboard!

Welcome aboard!

Thank you! :)