thats cheap. we bugeted 5mil for a sydney city model.

Why is it so expensive?

just the data itself. i dont think we will get 5mil. may have to opt for a cheaper option,

That's awesome. Hope I get to see it. It will be interesting to see the Gosford one and see the impact 20+ storey buildings would make on the skyline.

On another note, I feel as though we were ripped off on East Point Gardens in Gosford...

render: http://www.justlisted.com.au/images/660/x9903scsunrise_website_image.jpg

now the real deal:
http://www.justlisted.com.au/images/1511/x9967sc72-82_mann_2.jpg

is it just me or does the sleek silver render look so much better than the coffee stain colour of the real thing? its so ugly up near our disgusting pebble-crete council building =(

renders always look better.

went to a nipper carnival on sunday at North Entrance.
35deg on sand, 16deg in water. ocean is so cold lately
big day. organized chaos.lol
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Westfeild :)

I love the CC Shoping they 2 huge shopping cinemas one with an ice rink cinema and one with a megaplex cinema??

I wish Newcastle had such good shopping.

yes, alot of people i understand travel down to Tuggarah westfields.they need one near newcastle CBD.

^^Isn't Westfield Kotara (Newcastle suburbs) being expanded at the moment?

Kotara Info (http://westfield.com/corporate/retailer/sub_leasing/kotara/index.html)

It will be over 65,000sqm in size when the re-development is completed in November '07, not too far behind Westfield Tuggerah, which is around 80,000sqm in size.

Nice photo Cul. Stark contrast to the empty beach of the month before that I posted.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/Fabian/P1010427.jpg

I actually stayed at The Entrance North when I was recently up there and one of the two homes we rented is in the photo. You can a small section of the house, which is the third house (after the white shack and the little set of units)

yes, alot of people i understand travel down to Tuggarah westfields.they need one near newcastle CBD.

If I'm at The Entrance, I go there instead of Erina. Only 20 minutes drive from the town :)

As for shopping in Newcastle, I've heard there's good shopping there. I've plenty of ads on Central Coast/Hunter television promoting shops in the Newcastle area.

yes of course Kotara.thanks finn. thats alot closer then Tuggerah.
sounds cool fabs.
another>
skyline in background

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Newcastle has no good shopping and to be honest neither does the Central Coast. Erina Fair, Tuggerah Westie, Newy, Kotara Westie and Charlestown have ordinary stock and lack many brands and labels. Erina might be one of the biggest centres in Aust but it had by no means decent stuff. Tuggerah has some OK shops and some of the alright stuff at DJS but Warringah Mall, Hornsby, Chatswood and Castle Hill are the best shopping bewteen the city and the Gold Coast. If you want fairly old or ordinary stock ... try anything in between. There are a few boutiques at Terrigal and whatnot, if you like paying crazy prices. If CC or Newy people want to 'go sick' on up-to-date stock and brand shopping I'd suggest they drive all the way to Chatswood.

Umina zoomed in from my place
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Newcastle has no good shopping and to be honest neither does the Central Coast. Erina Fair, Tuggerah Westie, Newy, Kotara Westie and Charlestown have ordinary stock and lack many brands and labels. Erina might be one of the biggest centres in Aust but it had by no means decent stuff. Tuggerah has some OK shops and some of the alright stuff at DJS but Warringah Mall, Hornsby, Chatswood and Castle Hill are the best shopping bewteen the city and the Gold Coast. If you want fairly old or ordinary stock ... try anything in between. There are a few boutiques at Terrigal and whatnot, if you like paying crazy prices. If CC or Newy people want to 'go sick' on up-to-date stock and brand shopping I'd suggest they drive all the way to Chatswood.

The Central Coast and Newcastle have plenty of good shopping. I find the old and ordinary clothing stock, as you call it, to be just fine for myself.
I was very excited when I learned that The recent Tuggerah Westfield extention was to include a huge Borders book shop and a JB Hi Fi, as well as a Lush. Three shops that I did travel for.

renders always look better.

went to a nipper carnival on sunday at North Entrance.
35deg on sand, 16deg in water. ocean is so cold lately
big day. organized chaos.lol
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/185/365716537_866da0d136_b.jpg

Cull, How was the water temp on Sunday. The water at fridays swim club at the Entrance was a little bit fresh to say the least, Some freak on shore tide i'm told.

The Central Coast and Newcastle have plenty of good shopping. I find the old and ordinary clothing stock, as you call it, to be just fine for myself.
I was very excited when I learned that The recent Tuggerah Westfield extention was to include a huge Borders book shop and a JB Hi Fi, as well as a Lush. Three shops that I did travel for.

LOL, it's not my personal opinion, it is a fact. Shopping is far from great. Just look at all the cheap shit girls clothing shops at erina fair, most are only a mild step up from supre. Myer has nothing, it's pure shite. but of course there are quite a few 2 dollar shops and budget shops (the type of shops you expect to find on the basement levels). Hell there is not even a footlocker on the CC anymore. Talk about crappo.

Buying books, hi-fi equipment and household stuff is fine, there are a plethora of shops for that sort of stuff and many with a very good range. Clothing wise however and it's a desert. BTW you didn't have to travel far for JB, Erina had one years before the Tuggerah extensions.

The only thing I didn't like about the shopping on the Central Coast was Myer at Erina. Had nothing compared to its city counterparts. I'd go for DJ's at Tuggerah.

I'd be nice if myer had a second level or expanded into the carpark.

DJ's at Tuggerah is typical of suburban Sydney stores.

Books and electronics selection was good at shops along the coast. I bought DVD's at JB hifi at Tuggerah and I bought some books at Borders Tuggerah in December. The second hand shops are interesting too. The Entrance had a good number of these. The second hand bookstores were a hit and I snapped up second hand street directories at a fraction that they would go for on E-Bay.

Cull, How was the water temp on Sunday. The water at fridays swim club at the Entrance was a little bit fresh to say the least, Some freak on shore tide i'm told.
yes for past 3 weeks the whole coast from newcastle to sydney has been winter temps of 15deg. this is due to a north/easter pushing warm water away from coast thus allowing cold water from deep in the ocean to come up. It was just incredible. hopefully it will warm up soon. water supposed to be 22deg atm.

I was walking past the old Spurbest site on Mann Street yesterday and there was a billboard there announcing a new DA approved mixed-use tower as well as a fairly large retail podium. Since I was in a rush and didn't have my camera, I didn't get much information, but I did notice that it will feature 210 apartments. It is a sleek tower, very nice, with a lot of glass and a nice little spire.

It's being sorted out by L.J Hooker, but I scoured the website and no rendering seemed to be available, I might e-mail them... but last time I did that I was hounded for months to buy a property -_-"

The next chance I'll have to get down there is Monday, I'll see if I'll have time to get a photo and collect information off the board. However, if anyone is going down there, be sure to have a look, the billboard is just off the old County Council building.

Cheers!

Ok, the photo I promised is about a month overdue, but here it is:

http://forsite.com.au/uploads/properties/content/1536.jpg

Dig in kiddies!

EDIT: replaced crap picture with a better one.

thanks. i tried to find that billboard but couldnt? where the hell was it?
looks good render.

Haha its a pretty big board, pretty remarkable that you missed it :P

Its just in some garden thingy outside the site of the building. It's right next to a historical information board about the county council building... it's there! haha.

I hope it kicks off soon. Any news on the CCLC motel front?

havent heard about CCLC motel.
just on 3D models. a recent article in local paper mentions how GCC not only wants a 3D model of Terrigal but also Ettalong,woywoy & Umina! locals think a 3D model will show new developments better.
they should be started in next couple of years.

YEARS?!

Why should it take so long for them to get started?

maybe it might be fast tracked. i reckon as soon as everyone see the terrigal model, the councillors will want 3dmodels of every town centre on CC. i just wish t hey want ed a physical model. id love to make them one.

the ocean beach and umina surf clubs are currently being re built.
heres a pic of ocean beachs club. the good old tilt-ups are great. this went up in one day.

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view from my balc
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Thanks Cul, the surfclubs are starting to look great. The Kariong Community Sports Centre extention is looking good too... I probably won't be going by there for a while but if you're in the area check it out.

maybe it might be fast tracked. i reckon as soon as everyone see the terrigal model, the councillors will want 3dmodels of every town centre on CC. i just wish t hey want ed a physical model. id love to make them one.

Jesus I wish they wanted one too... say, Cul, um, have you ever done any pro bono work... =p

Can't wait to see them regardless.

HORRAY! FINALLY!
should be great.the Peninsula will really take off with this baby.
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Wow thats great news. This will definatly improve transport newtorking between Sydney and Gosford

Good Find Cul

this is great news for the peninsula. I hope that the Gosford City Waterfront plans make way for a fast ferry terminal in the near future... =]

just a umina surf club update.
plumbing down and rio. not far from slab construction
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Thats excellent news with the City-Ettalong service. Love the ferry :)
I wonder how they will be able to fit it in at Circular Quay.

This is the ferry they keep picturing...

http://www.nwbs.com.au/55/55.12.jpg
http://www.nwbs.com.au/55/55.7.jpg

There is one for sale too, they might want to buy it while its available. Australian Built North West Bay Ships 55m trimaran 40+ knot high speed. If I was considering a personal vessel, i would certainly take a look at these. Nice size and extremely fast, be fun playing games with pirates in the singapore straits and waters off africa. This thing wold blow them out of the water with its speed.

Features

The 55 metre trimaran fast passenger ferry Dolphin Ulsan has operated a daily return crossing of the Korea Strait for over two years.

The vessel carries 450 passengers at 40 knots with 6,960 BKW of installed power. An equivalent catamaran will have less sea keeping ability and require 25% more power to achieve the same speed.

The trimaran provides a superior ride for passengers whilst saving the operator US$550,000 annually in fuel and engine maintenance.

• 450 passengers
• 40.6 knots @ 50 t deadweight with 3 x MTU 16V 4000 M70
passsenger ferry.

i suppose its better then nothing. the extension means the company must be fair dinkum about running the service.
in local paper today-
FAST SHIPS ASK FOR MORE TIME
fast Ships LTD have asked GCC for another year extension for deadline to provide infrastucture and service.
They want earliest date or commencent at june27,2009.
Council have said the company has submitted a construction draft and program.
Early works have started on the wharf structure.

Also in the paper today, is an article about politicians getting angry // defensive of a plan to develop Warnervale Aerodrome into a regional airport!

Could you imagine the $$$ that this development would pump into the economy??? Ah, I can just picture it, the sweet sound of Jetstar flying over Hamlyn Terrace... what a symphony.

This also raises questions of an airport precinct... oh I do hope this gets the go ahead, although it will definitely be a few years until we get any answers.

We'll wait and see.

umm having an airport on the cc is kinda pointless becasue newcastle arport is less than 1 hour and a half away and sydney airport is about 1 hour away

They could have flights into places like tamworth reaghional towns ect but i dont know if any big airlines like virgin or jetstar will fly out of "gosford regional airport", it does sound like a good name though. Also residnets would probably be in up-roar

but if this plan goes ahead with flying sucess with the big ailines you could imagine the view from the top of westfeild of the jetstar 717's and A320m coming into land.

great news
news from local rag
The article is long but key points-

GREEN LIGHT FOR PROJECTS
Gosfords CBD is set to undergo a major facelift with approval for two major projects in the area.
A new 30 berth marina for Gosford sailing Club and a 10storey commercial/residential tower for the city centre.
The 10storey will be built on cnr Mann and Faunce Streets. there is a small render. looks good. basically a 3 storey podium with 7storey tower atop. nice design. yellow elements give it a colourful look. developers are Revolution Properties. I might contact them for a larger render and official height. it easily makes 35m for Emporis.
lets hope this is the start of the new highrise for CBD!!!

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umm having an airport on the cc is kinda pointless becasue newcastle arport is less than 1 hour and a half away and sydney airport is about 1 hour away

They could have flights into places like tamworth reaghional towns ect but i dont know if any big airlines like virgin or jetstar will fly out of "gosford regional airport", it does sound like a good name though. Also residnets would probably be in up-roar

but if this plan goes ahead with flying sucess with the big ailines you could imagine the view from the top of westfeild of the jetstar 717's and A320m coming into land.

Why is it pointless??? Newy Airport is fucking in the sticks and Sydney's is other the other side of the city. The smart thing to do would be build a massive new airport somewhere between CC and Sydney, to take the burden off the North West, North and North Shore. Warnervale isn't my choice but it is a great location, which could take in the entire coast and the catch the big populations in Lake Macquarie. Newcastle should never have had their commerical airport in the north, fucking stupidity.

what about putting it somewhere up on the sandstone escarpment near the reptile park/industrial area. there's quite a plateau up there and it would be close to sydney's northern suburbs. that would put the flight path over cull's place yeah? :)

There was once a proposal for an international airport there, pity it never happened. It's the best location IMO.

great news
news from local rag
The article is long but key points-

GREEN LIGHT FOR PROJECTS
Gosfords CBD is set to undergo a major facelift with approval for two major projects in the area.
A new 30 berth marina for Gosford sailing Club and a 10storey commercial/residential tower for the city centre.
The 10storey will be built on cnr Mann and Faunce Streets. there is a small render. looks good. basically a 3 storey podium with 7storey tower atop. nice design. yellow elements give it a colourful look. developers are Revolution Properties. I might contact them for a larger render and official height. it easily makes 35m for Emporis.
lets hope this is the start of the new highrise for CBD!!!

small render enlarged
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Wow! This is such excellent news for the CBD! The tower... is that on the site of that cruddy carpark next to Gateway Centre? Can't wait for this to start... render looks great! Any idea on expected start time?

Newy does 2 need an airport more than the central coast

Newcastle airport is mostly used by people travelling to port stephens and central coast anyways so it does some good and with CC right in the middle of two airports it would be easier and probably cheaper to build a train line going from Sydney Airport, Sydney City, Gosford City, Newcastle City and Newcastle Airport.

or another thing is to shut down the civil area of newcastle airport and leave it to the army and build a new airport somewhere for port stephens, Newcastle and CC tourists can access easily

and make it a high speed train like the TGV or whateva it is

[no double post haha]

...but check this out. http://www.gosford.nsw.gov.au/appleaday/projects.html

Very interesting reading.

Newy does 2 need an airport more than the central coast

Newcastle airport is mostly used by people travelling to port stephens and central coast anyways so it does some good and with CC right in the middle of two airports it would be easier and probably cheaper to build a train line going from Sydney Airport, Sydney City, Gosford City, Newcastle City and Newcastle Airport.
or another thing is to shut down the civil area of newcastle airport and leave it to the army and build a new airport somewhere for port stephens, Newcastle and CC tourists can access easily

and make it a high speed train like the TGV or whateva it is

That's fucking crazy, Port Stephens has such a big population! NOT!

It would have been far smarter to build an international airport between Newcastle and the CC, after all Lake Macquarie is home to quite a large population. Out where the current one is, there is nothing. Even those in Newcastle have long travel times. The Airport at Belmont was a better location in some ways. As if CC people would wish to access an airport in Port Stephens! Might as well drive to wherever you are going, you'd be halfway there. I am looking where the population is, and any airports should be located to serve the most people. The further north you take an airport the less effective it becomes. They should be concentrating on moving the airport closer to the city so it can service Newcastle, CC and Northern Sydney.


If the Gold Coast, Brisbane and the Sunshine Coast can support 3 major Airports, then Sydney, Wollongong, CC and Newy can support 4, one for each aeea with overlaps on catchment. There is too much space and too many people between Kingsford Smith and Newcastle Airport. A high Speed train should have been built regardless of airports, its needed now, just to service ordinary travel.

[no double post haha]

...but check this out. http://www.gosford.nsw.gov.au/appleaday/projects.html

Very interesting reading.Thanks for the link powlie, however...

...on the Civic infrastructure program page, a few of the proposed projects sound fantastic for Gosford yet are soooooooooo very far away!!


Gosford Bypass Road Planning

Indicative timeline: Complete by 2010 (have they @ least started to construct this yet???)


Performing Arts and Convention Centre – Gosford

Indicative timeline:

* 2 year feasibility & planning
* 3 year design development & implementation
* Construction to commence 2013 - WTF?


Gosford CBD Streetscape and Park Enhancement

Indicative timeline: Complete by 2010 (Once again, have they begun doing this yet???)


Regional Library

Indicative timeline:

* 2 year feasibility & planning
* 3 year design development & implementation
* Construction to commence 2013 - Again, WTF?

Newcastle airport is quite far out of town and doesn't really service the Hunter's population centre that well. Apparently developers are interested in re-opening Belmont airport again, although I'm not sure what for. The airport is far too small, has no room to expand and is stuck in suburbia.

Road connections need to be improved from Newcastle airport in order to cut down travelling times. A link road should be constructed from the airport to Pacific highway, Raymond Terrace. This would cut down travelling times to the CC and West Lake Macquarie.

I wonder if many people up further north use Newcastle airport. Place like Forster, Taree, or even Port Macquarie???

Port Macquarie has it's own airport and so does Coffs Harbour. People around Foster might use it but any further north and I think they'd go to Port's Airport. I have friends that use it regularly to travel to Sydney. I guess the answer tp you question is a big fat NO.

Newcastle airport is in the worst position ever. There is so much flat land to the south west of Newcastle, they should move it. It's crazy having a major airport in the area most distant from major population clusters.

Thanks for the link powlie, however...

...on the Civic infrastructure program page, a few of the proposed projects sound fantastic for Gosford yet are soooooooooo very far away!!


Gosford Bypass Road Planning

Indicative timeline: Complete by 2010 (have they @ least started to construct this yet???)


Performing Arts and Convention Centre – Gosford

Indicative timeline:

* 2 year feasibility & planning
* 3 year design development & implementation
* Construction to commence 2013 - WTF?


Gosford CBD Streetscape and Park Enhancement

Indicative timeline: Complete by 2010 (Once again, have they begun doing this yet???)


Regional Library

Indicative timeline:

* 2 year feasibility & planning
* 3 year design development & implementation
* Construction to commence 2013 - Again, WTF?
well at least there on drawing board. the devlopment of Gosford will be a long process. starting this year. will probably take a decade to get into gear.

well at least there on drawing board. the devlopment of Gosford will be a long process. starting this year. will probably take a decade to get into gear.

i'm beginning to get a "i'll believe it when i see it" attitude towards this. I mean, the regional library was promised to us 10 years ago, and NOW council is making us wait another 6? pfft. :bash:

Why is it pointless??? Newy Airport is fucking in the sticks and Sydney's is other the other side of the city. The smart thing to do would be build a massive new airport somewhere between CC and Sydney, to take the burden off the North West, North and North Shore. Warnervale isn't my choice but it is a great location, which could take in the entire coast and the catch the big populations in Lake Macquarie. Newcastle should never have had their commerical airport in the north, fucking stupidity.

The location is also well placed - right in between the freeway and the rail line. An exit already exists in a convenient location on the freeway, so that saves some money.

If it weren't for the stupid 100km exclusion zone (:bash:) this would be an almost ideal site for a new International Airport. Transport links are already existing so no (or little) work there (although perhaps an electric version of the XPT would be a good idea).

its a great day for our surf club at Umina. first walls go up.
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new st johns church uc in woy woy. gonna be big.

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Is St Johns Catholic or Anglican?

Catholic! right across the road is the old aging 1930's church so they bought up this prime spot to erect a larger more modern church.But sad thing is my local church at umina was sold to fund some the church. so now Umina doesnt have a catholic shurch, we now have to go to woy woy, its only 1omins drive. the prime site of sacred heart in umina will be sold and developed into a unit block.

Did you have to make a model of this under construction church?

i havent but id love to. i might ask council about it.

wow, found a render of church and i chatted to site foreman yesterday about deisgn and height. It will be an impressive scale and height!
Its current height is 13m and the main tower will rise to 23m. a 2m cross will adorn top totalling= 26m! thats very high for Woy Woy. thats 3m higher then the new towers of walk bridge!

The $4.5mil church will hold 400 people! and will be clad in zinc!

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recent pic for comparison
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impressive interior.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/183/436070236_d558dfd0c8_o.jpg

Quite an impressive steel structure going up. Will look good when it's finished. any iden on when completion is?

i think its supposed to be ready for christmas mass.ill definately go to that . ill take piccies.

Oh wow! ...but ready for Xmas?

Looks alot like a parliamentary chamber but nice and modern. :)

I saw a report on Today Tonight about a Kincumber farmer who cannot farm vegetables because it's 'intensive' and Gosford council says it isn't allowed on his property due to zoning regulations that permit farms with less intensive methods.

What did I get out of it? How Gosford Council won't let anyone do anything, even with farms. I guess they love green paddocks. :bash:

I know this is irrelevant but it shows you what they are thinking

^yes i saw that. alot of people hate the GCC. they have backward thinking. really should remove all councillors and start fresh.
the reason why the kincumber guys farm was knocked back was beacuse there were "structures" as part of his hydoponic lettuce. they were just wooden boxes sitting above grd.
just ridiculous.

does anyone know if there is, or will be, any service from circular quay to gosford by october this year? i know there was talk about a catamaran that was going to do a tourist trip for $75 but what's the go now? i've got overseas visitors coming in october and would love to do that trip with them for the day.

^yes i update regulary in transport thread>
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=319795
latest is that the developer has started work on wharf and foreshore.
the fast ferry service has been delayed another year but on track for 2009 start.
cant wait.
as for now, im sure theres a weekend service that goes from quay to ettalong or gosford.?

new 11storey mixed use tower for st vincents de paul site in mann streets.the 2storey podium will house the societys offices with 29 units above.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/217/444872228_bdf2d15c01.jpg?v=0

saw this one in the paper today. looks pretty awesome.

any idea on construction starting time?

i reckon this year.

just an update on my surf club.
2nd floor slab is done. steel frame for 2nd floor should go up soon.looking good for an August completion

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the 85ft tower and cross was put up today on st johns. bloody brilliant. Its so striking now along with its shiny facade. Such a landmark for the Peninsula.even has a square void near top like SWFC.

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looking great - sure to be very striking when done.

haha looks like someone's getting pizza at the construction site.

Renovation works have begun on 1-5 Baker Street. It will be vastly renovated to include interior air-con (anyone who goes to gosford will instantly recognize 1-5 Baker's air-con boxes hanging out the windows), retail tenancies, a new striking corner facade with retail tenant, professional office suites, and a nice little spire to top. Here's a pic from developer's site CommercialHQ (http://www.commercialhq.com.au/)

http://www.commercialhq.com.au/images/baker_hero_A3.jpg

As it still looks now:

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/7648/15bakerbz0.jpg

Perhaps by XMAS?

ah yes, i remmeber this little scraper. so thin, really unusual location.ight across from ATO.
the new 17st Leagues club will rise on same block as 1-5baker. hope that starts 07.
thanks

will the construction of the CCLC motel result in the demolition of that horrid little soup kitchen that draws all the hobo's around that area?

hope so.

has anyone been watching the fashion week snippets on TV? one model was showing a very mini skirt. you basically see everything.
they called it the "Terrigal" skirt. the reporter asked why the "Terrigal" skirt. they said because its just below "The Entrance". lol

haha that will be a CC joke for years to come

Vinnies on Mann Street are moving in June to a temporary new premises opposite the comm bank. work should start this year.

progress on st johns. looks fab
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love the little square windows they have punched out.
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upper steel frame goes on surf club
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looks awesome, thanks cul :)

Wow that church looks awesome. Nice and modern

im sure the christians in CC will be pleased

catholics actually haha. =]

opps :D no matter which religion its a fine looking church thats being built non the less.

a trip down memory lane:

http://www.photosau.com.au/Gosfordlib/jpeg/001%5C001015.jpg
[1980] Myer on Mann Street

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[1948] The old Regal Cinema - demolished in 1978 to make way for the Comm Bank

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[1970] Intersection of Mann and Donnison Streets

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[1978] Kibble Park and Gosford Library under construction.

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[Date Unknown] Looking to Market Town over Kibble Park.

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[1920] Gosford looking south over the rail yard.

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[1920's] Gosford aerial.

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[1976] Gosford Council Chambers on Mann Street under construction.

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[1976] Newly finished council chambers and Broadwater Hotel - possible site for the Regional Gallery expected in 2013.

All images from Gosford & District in Pictures (http://www.photosau.com.au/Gosford/scripts/home.asp)

Wow i love that cinema!!!

1980 didnt myer use to be called grace bothers or were they just a totally different company. That myer looks great. What is the myer now??

stupid people they got rid of a part of gosfords history for a bank!! theirs one right next to myer just up the road!

I'm not sure about the company names.

However, I can tell you that the Myer building was gutted, a few holes were punched through for windows and how it's a hideous white bland office block.

The Regal had structure issues to my knowledge.

Nice historic shots there! They would go good out on the City Images, Architecture and Historic Themes forum under Urban.

yes great collection of old pixowlie
some more photos of old bldgs of woy woy from todays time.
love the blue

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railway st
like the bldg with balc

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clock tower compelx

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Wow i love that cinema!!!

1980 didnt myer use to be called grace bothers or were they just a totally different company. That myer looks great. What is the myer now??

stupid people they got rid of a part of gosfords history for a bank!! theirs one right next to myer just up the road!

The Myer stores in NSW at the time were stores formerly trading as Farmers competing directly with Grace Bros. Myer took over Grace Bros just a few years later.

sort of good news. but they have to get this under 10storeys mentality out of there heads. lets hope the 25st gets up for mitre10 site soon.

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Thats wrong wasnt it 88% in favour by us!! :D

That looks great but still needs some more buildings the the CBD

^that was the Express advocate readers poll.;-). but thats fucked that the elections show 88%. what backward people. people dont understand, developers havent touched Gosford for years because of the backward regulations. they would rather build a 15storey signature tower which will set up there HQ for the future instead of a 7storey low box that has no merit.
hopefully common sense will prevail.

Ha i think developeers would rather build and develope in Gosford and the CC than in most areas of Sydney necasue of the CC's location. Prime land up their so make it go to good use stupid Brooks. I wonder if he cares about the fact that hes eating up all the prime land with low rise crap.:ohno: :bash:

was walking down shelley st today and saw this model in window. Its a new project called HARRIOT AT THE ENTRANCE
renders looked good.

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Wow thast nice!

Wyong Shire Council suck, they should be promoting much taller highrise intead of capping limits and encouraging sprawl.

yeah i agree avatar, the entrance has such a manly / cronulla potential but it is being wasted.

work to start on the st vinnies site in gosford next month.

You can build 15 storeys at The Entrance and it still won't look tall. The Mariner doesn't appear that tall when you look at it from the bridge heading into town.

yeah i agree avatar, the entrance has such a manly / cronulla potential but it is being wasted.

work to start on the st vinnies site in gosford next month.
st vinnies site? whats going there powlie?

Remember this ~10 storey number?

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The Vinnies store is moving down to a vacant shop on Mann Street near the comm bank next month... they have taken out a two year lease there, so I'd be expecting this one to be done by or close to mid 09.

Meanwhile, on the 1-3 Baker front, I went down there to take a photo but got yelled at by the construction team. I can tell you that it has been painted a strange blue/mauve gradient which is really disappointing - it looks like a squashed grape.

I expect that quite a few projects in the Gosford CBD will begin this winter/spring.

^of course. yes alot of construction about to happen. and its gonna keep going for a while.good news. i want the bloody leagues hotel tower to start!

^of course. yes alot of construction about to happen. and its gonna keep going for a while.good news. i want the bloody leagues hotel tower to start!

I think we all want to see that one start.

Why do I get the feeling it's got caught up in red tape? :ohno:

managed to checkout some of our new landmarks today in sunlight.
st johns update
cladding of tower has started

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umina surf club
roof now on.
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Some of the highrise developments at The Entrance. Took this last summer

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wow thanks, i havent been out to the entrance in a while and that was nice to see it's getting built up. hopefully wyong shire will relax strict height limits soon and we can get some real tallies there. thanks again. :)

yeah The Entrance is i think the place for highrise aka GC. its vast,lovely waterways. really picturesque but old nimbys want it capped at 8storeys

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real holiday/tourist place all year round

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and must not forget the famous daily feeding of Pelicans
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I've seen a really impressive design for the "Key" site at The Entrance (the site that wraps around the KFC near the water). It looks somewhat like "The Wave" on the GC, but not as tall (it's around 9 storeys). Hopefully it will come to fruition soon and set a new (much higher) standard for architecture at the Entrance.

What people are just realising now is that all over Sydney, the decision-making old fucktard baby boomers are all going soft in their old age and are wrecking NIMBY havoc everywhere they decide to live and worse still ... congregate. The Central Coast just happens to have more of the old arsewipes. It's the same in Blue Mountains, and all the seachange suburbs up the NSW coast.

All of Sydney,NSW and Australia is experiencing this phenomonon and it is going to get worse as all the idiots get older. I think they are rationalising their previous ideas with a much more environmentally sympathetic view - unfortunately they wont just STFU, they are far more vocal and annoying than any previous groups too.

^ and they've got the population numbers to back themselves up. it's all over.

These developments at The Entrance are being built in or around the CBD, It's not going to impinge on the low rise areas of town.

^^ tell that to wyong council. they recently reduced a magnificent landmark wharf development which was firstly intended to be ~10 storeys down to 2. it's pathetic. the entrance has some real potential but there seems to be a lack of innovation in the council chambers which is seeing all the good sites succumb to modest 5-7 floor developments when they could easily sustain developments higher than 20. :ohno:

That site is a gateway site into the town. It's right next to the bridge which is the northern gateway into town.

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that's the one. they may as well keep it as it is... wyong shire council can be so pathetic. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

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this sexy mofo has been advertised for years.. i wonder if/when it will start. any thoughts?

not bad. like the cornice.looks like the top of a tall bldg.but its only 4 floors.

Big news!

Today there was a meeting at the CCLC between council and the people for the performing arts district organization where plans would be discussed!:banana: Perhaps some imagery tomorrow.

^sounds good
st johns update

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I bought a house most recently in Ettalong. I was up there in April and noticed still no work done on the foreshore and wharf. I can understand why no work on the wharf but what is holding up the foreshore???? Anyone got any ideas???

^welcome neighbour. As far as i know, the foreshore area and wharf have approval and have started or about to start with a years construction schedule.
The fast ferry is to follow .was going to be jan 07 then 08 and now looks like 09.
The silly developer has council by the balls and keeps things a snail pace.
Smart move buying in Ettalong. realestate should boom after fast ferry is up and running.

If everyone has a problem with nimbys like i do become the prime minister and kick them all out :P that would leave us with everyone who is apart of this forum left in australia. Central Coast is being hit hard by nimbys and it really does annoy me alot.

And yes every major city has alot of nimbys, accept the gold coast casue eutrepenures and tycoonists live their

Im in Empire Bay, and i believe that Ettalong Beach is a good, sound investment for the future. With the Mantra Hotel being a sucess bringing in tourists, the ferry to Circular Quay and ferry terminal will make the prices around there go through the roof. Just being so close to the water, new apartment blocks being approved, the markets and cinemas and the boutique shops staring to appear shows thing are going in the right direction. I can't believe how cheap old houses are in Ettalong.

The Sydney Morning Herald has decided to do a special investigation into the woes affecting the Central Coast

This one is from todays paper

Welcome to the Central Coast mosh pit
Gerard Noonan
June 4, 2007

WHEN Stephen Aitken, a headmaster, turned the first sod for his new Catholic school five years ago, he was standing in a Central Coast paddock of tall gums. There was just the hint of a new suburb in the surrounding hectares of open space and scrub.

The other day the former Patrician Brother strode proudly around the almost-completed MacKillop Catholic College at Warnervale. More than 1100 children milled about the sparkling new classrooms, and next year the numbers will climb to 1400 as the school absorbs its first intake of year 12 students.

It will then be as full as the proverbial Catholic school, yet the nearby brand new suburb of Warnervale is only a quarter built. Warnervale and MacKillop College - 10 kilometres inland from the charming seaside village of Toukley, across a narrow spit separating Tuggerah Lake and Lake Budgewoi - are something of a symbol of the triumphs and the planning nightmare that characterise the Central Coast.

While the extensive waterways and pleasant climate promise a laid-back and uncluttered lifestyle, the Central Coast's roads are clogged during lengthy daily peak periods, its hospital waiting rooms are bursting, and its lawns are parched as level five water restrictions bite thanks to the inadequate supply from the rapidly dwindling catchment at Mangrove Creek.

State and local government agencies are struggling to keep up. Schools and medical services are overstretched. All services are groaning under the weight of phenomenal population growth.

The single-track train line between Sydney and Newcastle, which is shared with freight trains, and the frequently blocked F3 freeway have difficulty carrying the commuters and business entrepreneurs to Sydney and Newcastle. By night, children teem into the deserted Erina Fair shopping mall east of Gosford, a mosh pit for a generation stuck in a vast dormitory suburb, a series of townships spattered through the national parks and lakes that make up 100 kilometres of

country heading north to Newcastle, the original lands of the Guringai tribe. Chris Hartcher, the local MP and Opposition spokesman on Central Coast affairs, says the NSW Government's commitment to provide adequate funding for housing and transport infrastructure, water supply and health and medical services is woeful.

"With one-twentieth of the state's population, there's nothing like one-twentieth of the state budget being directed to the region," he said.

During the recent state election, a tent embassy was mounted outside Wyong Hospital to highlight the dilapidated state of medical services in the region.

The Minister for the Central Coast, John Della Bosca, who lives in the area, says the hospital has received a $200 million injection under Labor. But that was in the late 1990s, and the coast has not stood still.

Mr Della Bosca admits planning is a big issue and that the strains on infrastructure in such a fast-growing region are considerable. "How to make that infrastructure work better is a problem."

The "coastal fringe" is now in the throes of becoming a 30-kilometre-wide corridor, as the scrub is bulldozed, marshes are drained and developers run up project homes for the newcomers or build townhouse complexes in places like Gosford where once the quarter acre block ruled.

Apart from a veneer along the splendid beaches - where Sydney's well-heeled citizens and some better-off farmers have traditionally kept their holiday houses - the region has been hit by several waves of new immigrant settlers over the past 60 years.

The first of the newcomers were the baby boomers, mainly from Sydney, who cashed out in the housing market booms of the 1980s and early 1990s, bought a cheaper place at Woy Woy, Wyong, Gosford or up around the Lake Macquarie area and had money left over as a sort of superannuation nest egg.

The second were those usually less well-off families - often renters - displaced by the price of living in the Sydney fast lane, or who have simply gravitated to the Central Coast from elsewhere in the state or interstate because metropolitan Sydney was way off the housing affordability map.

Many of these are the so-called aspirationals, small business people and white-collar workers prepared to use up a couple of hours each day commuting to their career prospects.

But as the baby boomers have aged, and the younger families have boomed, the strains on the Central Coast's infrastructure have become obvious. Gosford Hospital and the refurbished one in Wyong now have the busiest emergency departments in NSW.

While there is one general practitioner for every 400 citizens in Sydney's eastern suburbs, the figure is one for every 1800 in Gosford and up to one for every 5000 in some new Central Coast development areas.

Schools like MacKillop fill up as soon as they are built, while the State Government acknowledges it has an educational cultural problem to overcome, with Central Coast school retention rates to year 12 lower than other NSW regions.

In 1991 the two local government regions of Gosford and Wyong, which cover most of the Central Coast region, boasted 240,000 residents. A decade later, the population had leapt to just under 300,000. Demographic projections by the local councils suggest there will be 422,000 within 25 years.

I bought in Ettalong but live in Avalon at the moment. I am urging many of my younger friends to consider Ettalong and Umina for the following reasons

- The median house price in Avalon is almost 3 times that of Ettalong albeit with arguably the same view.
- For those travelling to the city, it is quicker to commute by train from Woy Woy than to catch a bus from Avalon.
- If you want to buy anything in Sydney with a similar price tag to Ettalong you are looking at buying in places like Blacktown, Penrith, Wentworthville - Too bad if you love living by the sea.

I see enormous commercial opportunities in the area and eagerly await the next phase of development.

Does anyone know if the Tesrol DA has been approved. I noticed the block of land behind Mantra (The carpark) was looking for expressions of interest. Is this a multiplex owned block

^yeah the Peninsula is awesome.best thin g we ever did moving from sydney 3 years ago. the tesrol dev has been going for 2 years now. not sure about progress but everyone was in uproar due to its 9storey height. i think courts said you can proceed with more setbacks and 7 storeys?
As for carpark behind mantra, well thats stage2 of mantra project. It was to be 7storeys but council and state gov and cut off a floor, so will proceed at 6storeys.

tesrol dev>
was 89 units, now 61.
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click ettalong
original design>
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stage2 of mantra
will be the same except a removal of 1 floor

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foggy across umina on sunday morn from my balcony

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Ettalong is going to boom in the next few years, there's no doubt about that. I look forward to more exciting projects for there in the upcoming months and years - hopefully the place will get a height limit of something decent (50m would be great) and council will start to ignore the NIMBY's. THEN the place will be allowed to thrive as it once did, providing a new focal point for the peninsula away from Woy Woy.

Ettalong is going to boom in the next few years, there's no doubt about that. I look forward to more exciting projects for there in the upcoming months and years - hopefully the place will get a height limit of something decent (50m would be great) and council will start to ignore the NIMBY's. THEN the place will be allowed to thrive as it once did, providing a new focal point for the peninsula away from Woy Woy.

Realistic height limit: 3 stories. :cry:

^actually its 6storeys for the Peninsula. this was approved masterplan by state gov. Buildings planned higher will go to state gov for assessment. I think 9storeys or 30m is a good height limit for Ettalong.
i hate how longtime locals get upset about 3storeys and over.wtf? they need to get off there high horse and face reality.the Peninsula is booming and it needs to expand to provide infrastucture for future genertaions.
I want my kids to work on the central coast not commute like me and thousands of others. Its time now for Gosford to become a major CBD and provide jobs for the many thousands that live in CC.
If the Peninsula stays how it is now, the place will become a haven for deadbeats and oldies.looserville
I think the Peninsula has a bright future. i think people are realizing this.Its amAzing what the "big club" -Mantra hotel has done for not just Ettalong but the whole area.

^actually its 6storeys for the Peninsula. this was approved masterplan by state gov. Buildings planned higher will go to state gov for assessment. I think 9storeys or 30m is a good height limit for Ettalong.
i hate how longtime locals get upset about 3storeys and over.wtf? they need to get off there high horse and face reality.the Peninsula is booming and it needs to expand to provide infrastucture for future genertaions.
I want my kids to work on the central coast not commute like me and thousands of others. Its time now for Gosford to become a major CBD and provide jobs for the many thousands that live in CC.
If the Peninsula stays how it is now, the place will become a haven for deadbeats and oldies.looserville
I think the Peninsula has a bright future. i think people are realizing this.Its amAzing what the "big club" -Mantra hotel has done for not just Ettalong but the whole area.

Yeah, on one hand, you don't want the peninsula to become a cluster****, but on the other hand, a little bit of development wouldn't hurt the place.

My view on the matter: Sacrifice a few select locations to highrise development for keeping the rest of the area relatively lowrise.

The sacrificed locations would be: Gosford, perhaps the part of Woy Woy near the station, The Entrance, and maybe Wyong or Tuggerah.

In any case, the core of Gosford needs to go upwards.

just some pics from fri nite storm.

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Nature's developmental project.

WOW looks like the CC got hit harder than newy.

today
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church is looking great. not long now!

new professional office suites at tuggerah business park:
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looks good.

gee it does look good.love the corporate blade.my wife works at Tuggerah. really has lots of buisnesses there now. maybe it will be the "ryde" of central coast? its a good location, halfway between syd and newc.
cheers

so many people stop and stare at this church. such a wonderful landmark for woy woy

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when for a surf today. twas huge. and cold.

Palm beach lighthouse is 7km from Umina beach, so i used my 16x zoom.
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gee it does look good.love the corporate blade.my wife works at Tuggerah. really has lots of buisnesses there now. maybe it will be the "ryde" of central coast? its a good location, halfway between syd and newc.
cheers

Yep, it is a good spot. I'm not at all surprised to hear it's coming along well. I'm not at all surprised that this is the case -- it has a freeway exit, there's a train station, and it is, as you've said, pretty much smack bang in the middle of Sydney and Newcastle. Not to mention the shopping centre there.

Also fairly central in relation to the Coast as well.

The church is looking fantastic as well. It would be nice if it had a little colour, though.

^the colour is coming.
not sure if you can notice but to the right of main body of church is the 2storey office section which will be sandstone colour. there is a large 2m brick wall also which will surround the complex -sandstone colour. the silver and sandstone colours will balance the whole complex nicely.
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looking awesome today
love the look of the pressed facade

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guys on roof
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such a high quality project... thanks for all your updates cul.

^no probs. i just cant believe this is being built in woy woy.
new 4storey office bldg on cnr ocean View and Whiting Road,Ettalong
getting deep. not sure what its going to look like, but 4storeys will contribute greatly to streetscape.

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They look like sheep from a distance. hundreds of hungry ibis at Woy Woy LAndfill today

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^the colour is coming.
not sure if you can notice but to the right of main body of church is the 2storey office section which will be sandstone colour. there is a large 2m brick wall also which will surround the complex -sandstone colour. the silver and sandstone colours will balance the whole complex nicely.
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LOL you wouldn't know it from the render, would you? :lol:

NIMBY'S STRIKE IN TERRIGAL:

from todays express advocate:


Terrigal will be mini Gold Coast

05Jul07

TERRIGAL residents will farewell views and welcome traffic chaos if Gosford Council approves a controversial high-rise development.

That is the view of Terrigal Area Residents Association members who have been fighting the $100 million Rapedo development for more than 10 years.

Amended plans for the big development on vacant land bordered by Campbell Cres and Painters Lane are before Gosford Council, with a decision expected as early as next week.

The NSW Planning Department has already approved a six-storey building on the site.

But developer Dino Seraglio now wants to put up a building with 111 residential units, recreational facilities and swimming pools, shops, a medical centre, piazza and underground car parking for 366 cars.

Association member Ted Sandeman said although the latest design was not as tall as previous ones, its footprint was more than 30 per cent larger.

He said it could set a precedent and attract more developers.

``The main issue is that it's going to destroy the atmosphere of Terrigal. We'll have a mini Gold Coast here,'' he said.

Association president Sue Edwards said apart from causing overshadowing and reducing views, the construction vehicles would add to Terrigal's existing traffic snarls.

``They're going to have 32 trucks a day going out of here just to take away all the soil they need to remove,'' she said.

``People are not going to come here if the traffic is backed up all the way to Erina. Can you imagine what that's going to do to the businesses here?''

Gosford Council has ordered the developer to erect a skeletal framework on the site to give surrounding residents an idea of the planned height and bulk.

^ive never met a more stuck up group of people in all my life then Terrigal locals. even there surf club are full of wankers.i saw this story and stil cant believe there whinging about the project. it wont dominate landscape and block views. its only 25m high now which is lower then hilltop homes behind it."mini gold coast"-this cracks me up when i read this. they said it about Ettalong. gee those 6 storey bldgs are nearly as tall as Q1? wft.I just think its time the well healed in terribal get off there high horse and let progress happen in there backyard. I really do hope the rapedo win the court case and finally get approval to start. it will be a real kick in the teeth for devlopers on the coast if there lose.

Rapedo is spanish for Rapid. Wonder how it applies to Terrigal?
Tough titties about views. Why should that hinder development.

And they have no idea, that it is one of the main tourist centres of the Central Coast so there will always be people, and how will tourism grow minus the tourists?

Mini Gold Coast is a complete exaggeration. They can start using it when 10-20 storey towers start appearing in their backyard.

Sometimes I think it would just be faster to drop a neutron bomb on some suburbs. Nimby's should be put to sleep.

TERRIGAL TRAITORS GO BACK TO WHEREVA U CAME FROM!

^mostly from manly. thats what ive been told about the Surf Club. most defected 10-15 years ago and all of a sudden Terrigal are best surf club on the coast after poaching talent from other clubs. most dont even live there.
Avoca is better. much nicer place.

awesome photo from palm beach lighthouse. looking north towards Lion Island and umina beach in background. you can see mantra Hotel at ettalong popping above treeline.

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oh could you imagine if there was a florida-style bridge over that waterway how quick we could be at the city? so fast.

also, st vincents has moved to temporary premises. perhaps some demolition on their old site can begin so the constructon on the 10f number can start soon. there are renders further back if anyone's wondering.

I bought in Ettalong but live in Avalon at the moment. I am urging many of my younger friends to consider Ettalong and Umina for the following reasons

- The median house price in Avalon is almost 3 times that of Ettalong albeit with arguably the same view.
- For those travelling to the city, it is quicker to commute by train from Woy Woy than to catch a bus from Avalon.
- If you want to buy anything in Sydney with a similar price tag to Ettalong you are looking at buying in places like Blacktown, Penrith, Wentworthville - Too bad if you love living by the sea.

I see enormous commercial opportunities in the area and eagerly await the next phase of development.

Does anyone know if the Tesrol DA has been approved. I noticed the block of land behind Mantra (The carpark) was looking for expressions of interest. Is this a multiplex owned block
how do you find ot about tendering?
heres pic of carpark next to mantra (to right) doesnt look big but it measures 70mx 70m. (5000sqm)
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heres a pic of terrigal from the Skillion. the town centre is out of pic to the left

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the silly single road coming into terrigal

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main street
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Gosford Council have ruined Terrigal. I basically grew up there and it's a shithole. Nothing has been done with that place in decades. Not only is it rundown and stuck in a timewarp but the rebuilding they have done to the streets is crazy, and makes it an even bigger bottle neck. They should have taken a leaf out of Wyong Councils rejuvenation of the Entrance, which is far superior. It makes me sad to see the place in pictures, because it's only then I notice just how bad it looks now.

They should bulldoze the entire block between the Esplanade and church street. They should be building that big new development too. Once again a community hamstrung by old nimby dickheads. If some major alterations are not made to that place soon it will go down the poochute and it will loose its exclusive tag. The only things going for it atm are the ageing crown plaza, Star of the Sea development and the new surfclub. The rest of the place is a crap fest.

^agree,
apparently the rapedo descion will be made this week. hopefully it will be the right outcome and council let them build it.
cant believe council want them to erect a frame envelope to show nimbys how big it will be?
model

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9100/terigalgv1.jpg

I cant see many people losing their views because of these buildings. They are only midrisers. The Crowne Plaza isnt much taller than that.

Locals have more to gain from it. I like the public square in the centre. Will be a great meeting place for locals and visitors.

What's the word on the street, any new developments planned on the Peninsula other than Tesrol, Hillview St etc.

I would be keen to see some action in ettalong. Mantra cannot stand out alone forever. Bring it on!!!

I read the feedback from the Ettalong Beach Reserve Plan of Management and didn't feel there was much to be concerned about. All feedback received looked to be minor and easily addressable apart from the comments around management of dunes. I am sure there will be an common sense outcome to these problems without much delay

^well the stage2 of mantra will start soon. it will go on existing carpark. it will be 2storey retail podium covering the 5000sqm site with 5 levels of units block above. theres a pic of it in this thread.
The Tesrol project is in courts i think. they want 9storeys but council want them to go to 7storeys with more setback from main street.
there is a 4storey office block under construction just near markets. i went through there the otherday. so many sites. lots of potential.lets hope the beach reserve plan starts soon along with fast ferry wharf.
2nd part of mantra
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/1155/outrigger2bb8.jpg

current Gosford temp
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this is looking awesome. sorry to post so many updates of st Johns but its really breathtaking in person.the metalic shine is unreal. i dont think ive seen a church like it?

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1392/861788999_1d3442a6d5_b.jpg

is it just me or does it look a bit 'tin canny'?

^it already has some nicknames, tin shed.ect. It has some brick bldgs added to it as part of whole complex which dull down the "tin" look, but i think it only enhances its whole appeal. locals have been say things like- "hey what the hell is that bldg on cnr of blackwall and victoria st?? taj mahal!lol
or is that the "opera house of central coast"?
its all good.

This is a new exciting development opp. Gosford Station that was mentioned back a few pages. It's being advertised EVERYWHERE around the CBD... I picked up a leaflet outside of what appears to be a new display centre for the project under construction in the Imperial.

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/9745/gosfordtowerfn0.jpg

bigger render:

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/410/untitledfj4.png

also went for a walk down by the leagues club yesterday - out the front (the waterfront side) some scaffolding has been erected. could this be the start of the hotel?

Opposite the station is zoned for taller buildings I thought, this looks like a stumpy waste of space. When will developers and council realise that other areas are being more agressive and that it is getting left behind.

Opposite the station is zoned for taller buildings I thought, this looks like a stumpy waste of space. When will developers and council realise that other areas are being more agressive and that it is getting left behind.

Not yet, the new zoning restrictions haven't been implemented yet to my knowledge - that's the tallest they can go currently.

thanls powlie. looks good/ yes its only 10storeys but hey, its a start. lets get the town centre going with devlopment and others will follow.

st johns update/
w0w
love the lourves

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1380/911389775_1ef9a423fc_b.jpg

the admin bldg is loking good now thats its part of the main body

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1300/911389711_dfaadce0b7_b.jpg

Umina surf club update
exterior nearly done,

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1220/911390227_813baaf057.jpg?v=0

Wow that looks very nice. Good update Culwulla. :)

I went across to ettalong today and had a look at the Umina Surf club. I was really impressed. Also, in talking to a local real estate agent I was told that the 2nd phase of mantra has been sold to another developer. Hopefully we will start to see something soon.

^yes. its great. im an active member of surf club and went on a vip tour the otherday. cant wait. we went without a club last year. used containers and even held some carnivals but survived without it.just. should be ready for season in Oct. the external colours will be a sandy colour with browns and blues.
Thats great about 2nd stage of Mantra! been looking forward to that.
should create a nice little townscape in ettalong. along with the 4 storey office bldg up the road and wharf precinct starting up soo, ettalong should be a cool little town.

i love livin at Umina. 2pm today

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1216/1006592442_253546669c_b.jpg

apparently theres a DA in for a 4storey block of units in main st of Umina (West st). its will go where current catholic church is which is vacating to new st Johns in Woy Woy.
Also a 3storey DA is in for a 3storey complex in Trafalgar ave in umina.
i wish i could view these projects on line or somehting

Sorry if this has been posted before. The search function is not working...

Anyway, from http://www.tonyowen.com.au - a mixed-use development known as "The Entrance:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/Muse11/TheEntranceA.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/Muse11/TheEntranceB.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/Muse11/TheEntranceD.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/Muse11/TheEntranceC.jpg

wow from the looks of that last photo all apartments get their own private pool facilities haha.

hope this gets approved it remindes me of the wave on the gold coast. It looks awesome

...it remindes me of the Wave on the Gold Coast. It looks awesome.Wave was the 1st thing that came to my mind too.

We could call it 'Wave Jnr'. This is where the KFC is. One of the best spots in town.

the entrance units looks awesome.so ultra modern,.12storeys?

Sorry if this has been posted before. The search function is not working...

Anyway, from http://www.tonyowen.com.au - a mixed-use development known as "The Entrance:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/Muse11/TheEntranceA.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/Muse11/TheEntranceB.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/Muse11/TheEntranceD.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/Muse11/TheEntranceC.jpg

What pisses me off is that wyong council are squandering sites with a lack of height. THis development would looks sensational at 15-40 storeys.

They think the Norfolk pines are more important than buildings. How will you be able to properly view this baby from the other side of the channel?

The Central Coast is NIMBY central :bash:

my home town of Umina looks like getting a new tallest! a 4storey block of units. local nimbys are angry. sounds like they dont like progress. get over it guys. this will do wonders for umina. hopefully more bldgs this size will be erected over umina.
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/6052/uminaflatspr1.jpg
its actually a nice looking block.

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/7356/uminafatsxn2.jpg

Yup, Gosford Council will reject it.

Heck, a 2 story townhouse would be 0v3rd3v3l0pm3nt!!!!!!!!!!!11 to this bunch.

:bash:

So bloody backwards.

Far Out go back to manly u friggin NIMBYS!

if they want something to complain about go to Dubia then come back and shutup!

im pretty sure it will be approved. the nimbys have no legs to stand on. you cant object to a devlopemt because its too big ect. the controls for that block is zoned 4-6storey max. its located on main road which council try to encourage not some back street near houses.
I look at this like here in sydney CBD. if a new bldg is mooted the surrounding towers complain but they are hipocrites because there tower didnt exist a few years back so. anyway if it goes to L&E court the devloper always wins because council will find it hard to knock back a devlopment which complies and nimbys wont have enough $$ to run with it.

I saw this article in the express advocate....Great news


Beach plan wins wave of approval

16Aug07

AFTER a decade of waiting, the eroded and overgrown Ettalong Beach foreshore will be upgraded.


A packed, placard-waving gallery at Tuesday's Gosford Council meeting applauded the decision to adopt plans for the restoration of the foreshore.

Plans will be sent to the NSW Lands Department for its consent.

Jubilant Peninsula Mainstreet co-ordinator Debra Wales said she could hardly wait to see the dilapidated beachfront returned to its family-friendly hey day.

``Over the years the town beach has overgrown with weed infested scrub and has become unsafe and inaccessible to the public,'' she said.

``It's been a long battle but we were determined to see our once beautiful beach restored so everyone could enjoy the waterfront, the views and calm waters.

``We're glad the plan has finally been adopted but it's really taken way too long and as a result we've lost many opportunities over the years.''

Gosford Council city services director Stephen Glen said it would take several weeks to amend the plans before they were sent to the Lands Department.

Mr Glen said he was unsure how long it would take Lands Minister Tony Kelly to sign off on them but added that once he did, initial work would involve weed removal and the installation of new fencing.

He said the council would explore funding options for the five-year project.

yes, isnt it great news. should really improve the ettalong town centre.

It's good to read about these proposed plans, i won't get too carried away until they start actually start construction. Gosford Council say they will do all this stuff and it seems to drag on forever eg Ettalong to Cicular Quay Ferry. I too like the look of the proposed unit block in Umina, can't wait to see some low rise developments on the Peninsula. NIBY's if you don't like it then piss off!~

just some update from today
surf club
getting new wet sand colour
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1070/1219907214_d1f2d4cbd2_b.jpg

not a bad refurb job to the thin office block in Gosford
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1373/1219907156_799f75cfc4_b.jpg


st johns
cladding of tower has started. offices complete.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1329/1219907168_a68ae6194b_b.jpg

Bloody hell that's a thin office block.

Thats a unique building. i hope they build something tall next to it in the future :)

i like that thin building at a glance to me it looks like an art deco med rise but if u look closer it looks very new

^it was a horrid 70's bldg but after recent refurb looks new.
umina surf club update

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1015/1306922563_2f1e51a5e0_b.jpg

location, location,location.
tragic little house on 1000sqm block at Ettalong awaiting development
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1047/1339337301_775c4f2f9d_b.jpg

Ocean beach surf club

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1173/1339337309_c20df7850c.jpg?v=0

some more bldgs of Ettalong

hotel

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/7124/0001847smallvd0.jpg

markets-really fab complex. has twin cinemas and popular on weekends.
(photo turned out crap due to sun)
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/2595/0001844lightsmallno6.jpg

Ocean Beach Surf Club look great with the colour scheme. Has anyone read any more on the fast ferry. It has been about 6 months since the extension was requested

^its still happening. the foreshore and FF wharf wil start soon and be ready by jan09.then ferry should be soon after.

view from woywoy carpark roof tonight
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1294/1358717913_7083d448ba_b.jpg

view north towads Tascott. woywoy bridge at left

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1039/1358717919_ba7f8518f3_b.jpg

view towards Gosford

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1310/1358717925_ad040568af_b.jpg

Chances of central coast having its owne airport continue to slip away because i just read in the news that Central Coast Aero Club are relocating their services and premisise to the vacent airport lot in Belmont.

Bad News for the aviation industry on the CC

is that the airport near Budgewoi? how silly.

^ no, it's much further north than that, it's on the other side of lake macquarie over the bridge from swansea. it is technically newcastle i think, ie, further up than lake macquarie council.

its in the suburd of pelican on the east side of lake macquarie just above blacksmiths. Its funny how the CC Aero Club is moving to Belmont which isnt in the CC!

from wikipedia -

Pelican is a suburb of the City of Lake Macquarie in New South Wales, Australia, located 25 kilometres (16 mi) from Newcastle's central business district across the entrance to Lake Macquarie from the town of Swansea. It was known as Pelican Flat until 1991.

so that would make it quite far from the central coast and it's on the other (northern) side of the entrance to the lake aswell.

Ettalong
msimpson/flickr
i like the height of 9storeyMantra. its actually perfect for the area.not very dominating and good scale.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1349/1302939310_4b2d677d43_b.jpg

Just a quick question, when will stage 2 of mantra hotel commence construction? will it be build at the rear where the current carpark is? Also, on the opposite of the road when he markets are, there are plans for an apartment tower. Any news on its progress.

When these projects are competed, it will be a great part of the coast. i have always said that ettalong will boom especially when they run the ferry to circular quay.

stage 2 should start this year. the basements have already been built. they are hidden under th temp sealed carpark.
here is render of approved building.>

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/1155/outrigger2bb8.jpg
the project over the road is the tesrol dev. it has been with council now for 3 years!
It was 9storeys and 89 units, now 7 storeys and 61 units. i just hope they start soon.
original render
go to www.tesrol.com.au
http://www.tesrol.com.au/residential/ettalong.htm

http://img147.echo.cx/img147/9402/ettalongtower1gt.jpg

Also there is a 4storey office block uc just up the road near the markets. Its well under way and basement should start soon. really big hole.

just some of the new st johns @ woy woy yesterday.looking awesome

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1329/untitled2wl2.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1124/1418147590_3fda2036bc_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1247/1418147596_9f485b9253_b.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1254/1418147644_a593ca3b0d_b.jpg

uhm... am I being thick or have you posted the wrong pic in #1? Why does the first pic have 101 floors "tallest in Australia" etc?

^ i was wondering about that too but just let it fly...

just seeing if anyone looks at this thread.

^ 10,400 times they have!

Is it your book Cul?

no av. just a title from aas used in transit site.

I was reading the council agenda for the next meeting and it appears the Tesrol development will be knocked on the head again due to it's size.

Someone should put malcolm brooks out of his misery.

Frank Sartor will probably take over the project to ensure it is built.

I love the Church. Very reflective and modern.

And yeah Culwulla you posted the wrong image. :lol:

i hope Tesrol now go to L&EC. really sort this shit out. how can panel say its ou of character and 200% bigger then there alowed? have they looked at whats across the road? if they have only 3 storey limit they may as well forget about it.

from peninsula times

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/3619/tesrollq3.jpg

How could they say it's out of character if it's right next door to Outrigger? I have to wonder if the locals know that it exists :bash:

The Gosford Council have no idea, have a look across the road. The Outrigger was the best thing to happen to Ettalong. The place may as well stay a shithole with all those losers hanging about.

I'm so sick of this council!!

it's only a matter of time, they may stop this one but eventually the pressure to build up in that area will win out. fingers crossed that the NIMBYs lose out here.

Yep, max density for there will be rowhomes.

Oh wait, they're tightly packed. 0H N035, 0V3rd3v3l0pm3n7!!!!!!!!!!11111

Sorry, but these BANANAs piss me off.

nearly done. st johns is a real landmark now and locals are warming to it. looks impressive @ nite.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2289/1535948153_92c0d7a131_b.jpg

I think it is a great church and a wonderful 21st Century interpretation, however one thing I dont like is the cross on top, it looks a little pi$$ poor and maybe should have been a little more prominent i.e chunkier

i spoke with foreman on site about that and they didnt want it to "overpower" woy woy too much. i said. oops too late.
not sure whats happening isndie the square at top.maybe a bell? or light?

It's time Gosford Council/Energy Australia started undergrounding all the old power lines too. God they look terrible. Thank heavens new estates and new areas are using underground power now.

I just read the the Ettalong Reserve plan of management was passed by the department of land. This is great news and hopefully means upgrades can start soon.

yes
council will provide $600,000 straight up, so work can start asap.will improve ettalong greatly
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/1895/ettamb9.jpg

how good is this pic??
checkout the name on side of bus.
1944 pic.
back then would have been a truck and a half.

http://image.sl.nsw.gov.au/hood/309/30967h.jpg

How cool is that photo, I wonder what the old Pacific Hwy was like in those days

view of ocean beach surf club at 5;30am today zoomed in from my driveway. love the cockys

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2082/1696578523_5ae2bf7a01_b.jpg

from this weeks EXPRESS ADVOCATE

HIGHRISE FOR GOSFORD
New Planning controls for the Gosford town centre will be approved by end of the month.
Planning Minister Frank Sartor told a parliamentary inquiry this week he hoped the controls would be gazetted in next few weeks.
The latest plan to rejuvenate Gosford will allow towers up to 20storeys high and see an influx of 10,000 more people living in the business district.

the bells! the bells!
looks great. 3 bells for st johnys.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2152/1734225903_079985b986_b.jpg

surf club update.
internals all done.
just a few electricals small things to go.

slab down and landscaping to go
looks good. we move in late nov

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2254/1799882429_fa22c49756_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2091/1800721818_0e57f0730c_b.jpg

from this weeks EXPRESS ADVOCATE

HIGHRISE FOR GOSFORD
New Planning controls for the Gosford town centre will be approved by end of the month.
Planning Minister Frank Sartor told a parliamentary inquiry this week he hoped the controls would be gazetted in next few weeks.
The latest plan to rejuvenate Gosford will allow towers up to 20storeys high and see an influx of 10,000 more people living in the business district.

*awaits 20,000 rabid NIMBY submissions to the state government* :ohno:

The other thing is, will the council approve anything above 5 stories? I doubt it, and I doubt developers will bother appealing. They'll just move elsewhere. Like Wollongong.

^ i feel confident the new masterplan with tall bldgs over 20storeys will be adopted. has to!

st johns. nealry done. it opens in 2 weeks.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2174/1813748318_526bea5f46_b.jpg

just blowing my trumpet.
former Erina High school boy Micheal Rodd rode Melb cup winner Efficient today

http://sportal.com.au/site/_content/leadimage/00012241-image.jpg

this weekend is big for our peninsula.
the $4.5mil St Johns will have its grand opening! Also my beloved $2mil Surf Club!
they both look spectacular! ill post piccies this weekend

heres a pic of one of the houses on the Hawkesbury river across from Wondabyne station.
so isolated.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2278/2014725574_363c0ee658_b.jpg

That house looks very... dilapidated. Any idea how many houses there actually are there? I think there is also one lone house next to the railway. Btw that's actually Mullet Creek.

Speaking of Wondabyne - I was coming back from the Central Coast on the train on Monday and I actually saw someone waiting there for a train going the other way! By the looks of him he'd probably been kicked off the train before it.

There are many houses around the corner nearer to Hawkesbury station and Brooklyn.
just measured on google earth the house is 350m away from station. its not dilapitaded. aive seen light on at night.
maybe 200 homes only by water access around at Brooklyn.. some 3 storey mansions. must get a pic.
yes the train i get in afteroon picks up people at wondabyne. probably smallest railway station in australia? only 10m. theres a quarry right adjacent to station.
the train guard tells everyone if you have to get off at wondabyne you have to go to last carriage and end door.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/120/364213891_7e568b0b5d.jpg?v=0

Probably not THE smallest, but among them. I'd nominate Mindaribba, which is serviced by CityRail trains to Dungog for the smallest, it's also only one platform:
http://www.nswrail.net/locations/photos/mindaribba01.jpg
http://www.nswrail.net/locations/photo.php?name=NSW:Mindaribba:2&line=NSW:north_coast:0
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/76/Mindaribba.JPG/620px-Mindaribba.JPG
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Mindaribba.JPG

How many people do you normally see getting on at Wondabyne?

classic.
love the seat.

Is that a dunny next to the platform as well?

looks like it. even has air con.

I believe Zig Zag's the shortest if my memory serves me correctly.

Any news on the highrise front?

^nope.
here are some picces of uminas new surf club.
we held the state interbranch on weekend.
That is when the best of Central coast V another 10 zones in NSW.
we won!
excellent day

view from mt ettalong rd
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2281/2044905938_a47887b029_b.jpg

some interior shots of surf club. turned out great
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2366/2044076249_ac10db5e79_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2377/2044869996_24b21d7510_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2395/2044868270_7d2d7437f9_b.jpg

^^

Is that the one you did a model of where the roof could be detached? It turned out quite nice actually, nice and modern.

Yesterdays Sunday Telegraph reports that Wyong Council will consider a proposal to build a big pelican at Peace Park in Gorokan, which is the gateway to popular destinations such as The Entrance and Toukley.

It would be 20m tall and there would be a shop at the base.

It's a fab idea, but I think the Pelican belongs in the Town Square in The Entrance, right next to where the pelicans come to be fed each day :)

Sounds good Fabian. I hope it is made of nice shiny stainless steel and electric blue lights illuminate it during the night. How sexy would that look?

Yesterdays Sunday Telegraph reports that Wyong Council will consider a proposal to build a big pelican at Peace Park in Gorokan, which is the gateway to popular destinations such as The Entrance and Toukley.

It would be 20m tall and there would be a shop at the base.

It's a fab idea, but I think the Pelican belongs in the Town Square in The Entrance, right next to where the pelicans come to be fed each day :)

Yeah, I can kindof understand why you might place one at Gorokan (it is at the point where there's a channel between two of the lakes) but The Entrance is probably more fitting.

LOL sorry i think it's a chat idea. The central Coast doesn't want one of those tragic 'big things' excepting a big tower to market itself. The money would be better spent being put towards some tall building instead, or some classy monument.

None sees gorokan anyway, it's out of the way and away from the dense areas of the south. It's also not on the F3 which helps to inhibit expoure. The traffic they get through there is limited and the connecting roads dubious at best.

i dont mind the big pelican. and yes should belong to the Entrance not gorokan. as long as it brings tourists.and $$$ for the locals.

LOL sorry i think it's a chat idea. The central Coast doesn't want one of those tragic 'big things' excepting a big tower to market itself. The money would be better spent being put towards some tall building instead, or some classy monument.

None sees gorokan anyway, it's out of the way and away from the dense areas of the south. It's also not on the F3 which helps to inhibit expoure. The traffic they get through there is limited and the connecting roads dubious at best.

I agree the location is bad but I think it will be serious. It would be bigger than the other big Pelican at Noosa.

If they want it on a major road, they can put it at the Tuggerah turnoff of the F3, as Wyong Rd takes people directly to The Entrance.

It is a cool idea. Nice to have one of the 'big' objects right on Sydney's doorstep. It's 2 1/2 hrs drive to the Big Merino at Goulburn.

LOL sorry i think it's a chat idea. The central Coast doesn't want one of those tragic 'big things' excepting a big tower to market itself. The money would be better spent being put towards some tall building instead, or some classy monument.

Yeah all the other "big" things in those towns across Australia are pretty cheap. But I think if this is big enough and presented well with the right materials then it could work quite nicely. I would prefer it if it were to be built at least 25m, prefferably 35m so it would be noticeable and iconic but I think 20m is still ok. The design and materials used can still make it an icon.

I think they are icons to the area that they are located in. Everyone has to agree on that point at least.

They are kistch. Imagine owning a $million waterfront property in magenta shores and seeing a huge pelican on the horizon. Sorry that would be disgusting.