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CULWULLA

January 20th, 2008, 11:22 PM

thought id post this here too!!!
MARINERS WIN MINOR PREMIERSHIP thanks to sydney and roar losing.:cheers::banana:

Mariners celebrate premiership

January 21, 2008

CENTRAL Coast Mariners have claimed their first A-League minor premiership - and a spot in the Asian Champions League - after a dramatic finale to the regular season.

Frontrunners for all but three rounds of the competition, the Mariners emerged victors in the four-way league title race after Queensland Roar imploded in Adelaide and Sydney FC let slip a winning advantage against the Melbourne Victory.

Four clubs began the final round tied on 31 points, but only Central Coast and Newcastle claimed wins, the Mariners pipping the Jets for the league title by just a single goal on goal difference.

Queensland were in the box seat heading in to the final round with the best for and against of the quartet, but they crashed 2-0 against Adelaide United at Hindmarsh Stadium – with Danny Tiatto sent off – to plummet to fourth place.

Earlier, Sydney FC twice led against Melbourne in front of a league best 33,458-strong crowd at Sydney Football Stadium, but ended up drawing 2-2 to slip from second to third.

The Mariners beat Wellington Phoenix 2-0 at a drenched Bluetongue Stadium on Saturday night to overtake the Jets and put pressure on the Roar and Sydney to win.

Coach Lawrie McKinna and his players were celebrating the title they nearly let slip at a pub in Terrigal on the Central Coast after watching both Roar and Sydney fall at the final hurdle.

"The Sydney game was terrible, it was the longest game I've ever watched, but after that I was okay," McKinna, whose side nearly let slip a seven point lead the summit after winning just one of their final five games, said.

"The Adelaide game was good, I was able to get down and join the boys in Terrigal and we'll celebrate the minor premiership tonight before getting back to work for the finals tomorrow.

"We set ourselves the goal before the season, we started really well, led for almost all the season and I thought we really deserved the minor premiership. We've got a great squad, a great bunch of boys. It's just fantastic."

The result also means the Mariners will make their Asian debut in the 2009 Champions League with top spot given an automatic berth into the competition.

With their 2-1 win over Perth on Friday, the Jets secured second place and a two-legged major semi-final against NSW rivals the Mariners.

Under A-League rules, the winner of the major semi earns the right to host the grand final, but the decider is unlikely to be played in either Gosford or Newcastle with the FFA understood to favour a Sydney final, likely at the Olympic Stadium or the SFS.

There was also further controversy over the staging of the two legs of the minor semi-final between Sydney and Queensland.

Sydney, who after finishing third had the choice of when to play at home, wanted the advantage of hosting the second leg at the SFS.

But they were denied that option by Football Federation Australia because Sting's group The Police were playing a concert at Suncorp Stadium next Tuesday.

With the first leg of the elimination play-off on Friday, the FFA was concerned about the state of the pitch, so have used their discretion to give Sydney the first leg at home, and the Roar home advantage for the second game on Friday, February 8.

Newcastle will host the first leg of the major semi in Newcastle on Sunday, with the return match at Bluetongue Stadium on February 10.

look at that table. 10 wins! 30 goals! perfect!:banana:

final table
A League Table
Pos Team Played Won Drawn Lost GF GA GD Points
1 Central Coast Mariners 21 10 4 7 30 25 5 34
2 Newcastle Jets 21 9 7 5 25 21 4 34
3 Sydney FC 21 8 8 5 28 24 4 32
4 Queensland Roar 21 8 7 6 25 21 4 31
5 Melbourne Victory 21 6 9 6 29 29 0 27
6 Adelaide United 21 6 8 7 31 29 2 26
7 Perth Glory 21 4 8 9 27 34 -7 20
8 Wellington Phoenix 21 5 5 11 25 37 -12 20

Fabian

January 21st, 2008, 12:09 AM

Terrigal pub was done up about 2 years ago.

The beer garden at Crowne Plaza Terrigal is a firm favouite for tourists and many locals.
Lord Ashley Bar upstairs is a more exclusive offering.

There are places to go almost everywhere.

Isn't it true that it is the centre for nightlife on the Central Coast and is the only place with nightclubs up there, apart from Brothers at The Entrance.

LanceDriver

January 21st, 2008, 05:30 AM

^ what about the nightclub at the woodport, isn't that still there? they were a little more progressive with their trance nights in the late 90's early 00's.

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January 22nd, 2008, 12:16 PM

LOL Fabian that is terrible, the coast has nightlife all over the place. Over time nightclubs have come and gone and terrigal certainly has had its fair share and still does. Thursday nights were traditionally good for terrigal and Gosford, the Florida Beach bar at Crown Plaza is normally rocking hard, with many going to the nightclubs after. Sadly its not what it was but the curfews are once again being lifted and life is going back to how it should be.

Gosford was traditionally and still is highly regarded for Coast nightlife, with s few pubs, seedy clubs and the popular Iguana Joes. It was only last year I think that Club Troppo located in the ever popular CCLC was shut down permanently. Club Troppo was a central coast and sydney instiution attracting people from Sydney and Newcastle every weekend. Everyone knows of Troppo. Iguana Joes is still rocking I believe and is well known for getting shut down due to over-crowding.

Woodport in Erina is very popular too, with a nightclub and rowdy pub, the beer garden also gets popular out the back in summer. There are numerous Clubs and larger venues around the Coast too, the one at Erina is popular, as is the Country Club in Terrigal and the list goes on and on. Woy Woy legaues Club, the Etalong beach War memorial Club, Wyong Leagues, Central Coast Leagues Club, Mingers, etc etc, the list just goes on and on.

There are a few techno and DJ nights too held in Gosford with international DJs from time to time. The CC nightlife is not fantastic but its better than some places. I think alot of the culture is happy having parties at home 'doing a corey', while others would rather just take a hop out to Sydney or Newy for the night.

There have been a few raves and music festivals too at places like Glenworth Valley.

Fabian

January 22nd, 2008, 10:11 PM

I remember reading in the local press in December 2006 about the closure of Club Troppo. That was a bad decision. :bash:

Those who love 'doing a corey' are losers, but that and the fact that people are forced to trek to Sydney or Newcastle in search of nightlife, suggests the Central Coast could do more to attract nightlife, but the NIMBY's and police will end up winning.

I've heard that Brothers was good when it had gay discos (popular with hetrosexuals as well). A few of my friends went there on one trip to The Entrance, and the girls that went in said that they had the best time because there were no guys bothering them.

bobbain

January 23rd, 2008, 12:44 AM

Is there anywhere to have a drink a Patonga

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January 23rd, 2008, 08:20 AM

um everglades country club, ettalong beach war memorial club, restaurants at pearl beach? I guess that's about it. I don't think patonga has a pub ... it's very small. If you have a boat you can go to hawkesbury river and drink there.

CULWULLA

January 23rd, 2008, 08:23 AM

^Patonga now has a fabulous pub. really impressive. its becoming a popular spot.only been opened a few weeks
the hawkesbury do have a great pub/restaurant.

Cactus

January 24th, 2008, 05:18 AM

The Anglers Rest. as seen from the train.

LanceDriver

January 24th, 2008, 06:19 AM

^ isn't that in brooklyn?

Cactus

January 25th, 2008, 03:51 AM

^ isn't that in brooklyn?

The town is Brooklyn, the station opposite the pub is Hawkesbury River.

CULWULLA

January 25th, 2008, 09:43 AM

i stop @ hAwkesbury River station everyday.
very pictuesque station.
-water both sides and only 2.5m above sea.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1327/742765477_2c266c2401_o.jpg

Fabian

January 25th, 2008, 10:37 PM

It has to be one of the most tranquil railway stations in Australia. Same with Wondabyne.

lowey

January 27th, 2008, 05:28 AM

i have been through there nice but i think it should be a bridge so the water can join or does it allready join nearby

Fabian

January 29th, 2008, 09:43 PM

New Seven Storey residential tower to be built at Ocean Pde, The Entrance. 22 Apartments with NEVER to be built out views :)

Prices for units start at $795 000

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/5833/104535833ml1200706308.jpg

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/5833/104535833al1200706308.jpg

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/5833/104535833bl1200706308.jpg

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/5833/104535833dl1200706308.jpg

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/5833/104535833el1200706308.jpg

CULWULLA

January 29th, 2008, 10:37 PM

^i mentioned this project last MAY.post 242
was walking down shelley st today and saw this model in window. Its a new project called HARRIOT AT THE ENTRANCE
renders looked good.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/227/511720234_14cee95bd8_b.jpg

CULWULLA

January 29th, 2008, 10:47 PM

i have been through there nice but i think it should be a bridge so the water can join or does it allready join nearby
just past this station you can see how the track enters a tunnel. the tunnel is a 100m long then opens up to the hawkesbury river rail bridge.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2257/2145802448_03fae7507f_b.jpg

LanceDriver

January 29th, 2008, 11:48 PM

the ocean parade resi looks very nice!

Joelby

January 30th, 2008, 03:21 AM

Sorry to completely digress, but what's with the secondary unused Bridge pylons? I would guess they were for an older bridge, but where would the rail line have gone once it made the other side (there's no tunnel)?

CULWULLA

January 30th, 2008, 03:54 AM

the railway line just went to the side of the mountain.
see aerial pic attach>
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/114/bridgexy8.jpg

CULWULLA

January 31st, 2008, 09:27 PM

Is there anywhere to have a drink a Patonga

the new pub i mentioned last week was in local paper this week. the new owner has put in the original curved bar from Sydney Hilton hotel and other memoribilia. looks great.

bobbain

February 1st, 2008, 11:03 PM

No surprise but I noticed on the agenda for next weeks council meeting that Fast Ships are seeking release of their contract to provide the Fast Ferry Service to Sydney.

Wouldn't it be great if Fantasea could do this service. They have a huge fleet of boats up on the Whitsundays, probably insufficient in size, but still they seem to know how to run a ferry business. They own the palm beach ferry service so it could be a logical fit.

CULWULLA

February 2nd, 2008, 06:56 AM

fast ships are useless. beter off without them. fantasea sound more positive

LanceDriver

February 3rd, 2008, 11:43 PM

what i don't get about gosford is that it seems to be in a natural spot that would force up density and height due to limited supply of cbd space but it still desperately tries to hold onto a lowrise footing. i just don't get it, something must have to give eventually but when? if it was a dense and populated little cbd i hink it could support the fast ferry to sydney but i'm just not sure if it can yet. but i'd like it to be able to run!

CULWULLA

February 4th, 2008, 12:02 AM

Gosford will eventually take off. many highrise are being approved as we speak. ive spoke to many people that do what i do and travel everyday to sydney. they would much rather travel north to Gosford CBD ! the central coast is growing fast and its infrastructure isnt keeping up with demands. we need a CBD up here
If a few big state departments would transfer up here, the bldgs would quickly fill and office demand would take off. it would breathe life into the city and gosford would get its jump start it needs.

LanceDriver

February 4th, 2008, 12:20 AM

^ i agree that it's needed but it's being held back severely by nimbys. it's got good rail transport and could have good ferry transport aswell.

also, was it included in the state plans for regional centres as penrith, newy and the gong were? if so there's hope because the plans should take precedence over council nimbys but if not my hope drains...

cammo2004

February 4th, 2008, 02:05 AM

LanceDriver

February 4th, 2008, 03:48 AM

^ does anyone know what the assigned height limit was then?

CULWULLA

February 4th, 2008, 04:22 AM

posted this back in nov06
new city draft
new things for Gosford-
15$mil waterfront precinct
new town square
6000 new jobs
10,000 new residents
http://www.planning.nsw.gov.au/gosford/
bldg heights allowed up to 72m/25storeys>

http://www.planning.nsw.gov.au/gosford/system/files/f5/o50/GOS_LEP_SEC2.pdf

height map
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/1512/gosfordtownplanml2.jpghttp://img455.imageshack.us/img455/9092/gosfordaerialyk2.jpg

"capital of the central Coast"

http://www.planning.nsw.gov.au/gosford/system/files/f1/f2/o6/Gos_Aerial_edited.jpg

waterfront
http://www.planning.nsw.gov.au/gosford/system/files/f1/f2/o14/Gos_WaterEducCultural.jpg

hospital
http://www.planning.nsw.gov.au/gosford/system/files/f1/f2/o11/Gos_LinkHealthPrecinct.jpg

commercial centre
http://www.planning.nsw.gov.au/gosford/system/files/f1/f2/o8/Gos_CommInvestment.jpg

new square
http://www.planning.nsw.gov.au/gosford/system/files/f1/f2/o9/Gos_KibblePark.jpg

city plan
http://www.planning.nsw.gov.au/gosford/system/files/f1/o65/city_centre_map_520.gif

http://www.planning.nsw.gov.au/gosford/system/files/f1/f2/o5/Gos_LiveableCity.jpg

LanceDriver

February 4th, 2008, 04:28 AM

^ thanks cul ! that would all be very nice. how much of this is actually progressing?

CULWULLA

February 4th, 2008, 04:40 AM

theres a coupl e of 12st bldgs about to start and the waterfront will begin this year

lowey

February 4th, 2008, 05:08 AM

nice to see newcastles little sister taking off i love gosford and newy

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February 4th, 2008, 12:28 PM

nice to see newcastles little sister taking off i love gosford and newy

Haha I don't really think its much like newcatle's little sister. More like upstart junky-chic suburban cousin.

Excuse me? Its more like Chatswood's little sister. The Central Coast has nothing in common with Newcastle, except maybe proximity to water. Certainly Gosford and the people are vastly different to those in the Hunter, especially those in the southern areas of the CC. Newcastle feels more like a satellite CBD while newcastle feels like a large country town, expecially with its long wide streets and spread out layout. Gosford is hemmed in and quite dense, much more like chatswood.

LanceDriver

February 4th, 2008, 11:00 PM

^ I think I worked out what you were saying. ;)

I've never been comfortable with the Central Coasts population being included in Sydneys population. I see that the Haweksbury river is a natural divide and there will never be a sprawling connection between Sydney and the Central Coast (hopefully the national parks will stop this just as it stops the connection to the gong).

I hope that one day Gosford will become a real city centre for the Central Coast and will have enough self support for it to be counted separately to Sydney. It would be Australias 8th or 9th largest city! At the moment it's just one spread out conglomerate of towns.

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February 5th, 2008, 03:06 AM

The Central Coast must be included in sydney sprawl until it can support itself, which is not yet. It's certainly not based on working classes like the hunter and the industry is very different. Much of the CC population commutes to Sydney and its logical for it to be part of Sydney. Much of it also parties in Sydney. I believe it needs it's own identity but I also believe it's just too close and too linked in with sydney to distance itself. The distance between it and Sydney's northern suburbs is miniscule. Palm Beach is a stone's throw from the Central Coast's southern suburbs. The flattish north continues to spawl into Lake Macquarie and the Hunter. West there is nowhere to go with steep ranges and much like the Gold Coast the hinterland is home to a more rural feeling. Density is a good option and concentrating on creating a web of more built up centres.

Gosford, Woy Woy, Tuggerah, Erina, Terrigal, The Entrance, Lake Haven, Wyong, Warnervale are but a few that need to concentrate on density and better transport linkages.

The central coast has developed with the problem of multiple centres, much like the Gold Coast. These are always competing and slowly joining up into one large urban mass. Gosford has stagnated for various reasons including Erina Fair and erina dominance in retail while coucil have squandered opportunities continuously. Workcover moved there a few years ago and this is what Gosford needs more of, larger state government offices and headquarters.

Roads have also held it back and now with Central Coast Highway is under redvelopment things should move. Widening from 2 lanes to 4 plus 2 bus/parking lanes from Carlton road through Erina Heights to Wamberal is the next step in joining everything together with a major arterial road system, rather than the current mismatched goat track.

lowey

February 6th, 2008, 09:30 AM

can ya buy the newcastle herald in gosford just wondering cause it has the weather for gosford with the hunter

CULWULLA

February 6th, 2008, 10:56 AM

^sure can. i always check it out at local newsagent.
story this week in advertiser about a new developemnt in terrigal. looks good and everyone seems to like it. must get a pic. looks about 4 storeys.

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February 7th, 2008, 03:23 AM

can ya buy the newcastle herald in gosford just wondering cause it has the weather for gosford with the hunter

Gosford had its own Herald for a while. The Telegrpah has a central coast supplement.

The weather is also lumped in with Sydney in Sydney papers and TV if you haven't yet noticed. Its more often linked in with Sydney media than newcastle by the sheer volume. The CC often features in both and the CC does have its own TV station based on NBN. The offices and studios are housed in Erina. Unlike Newcastle the central coast gets a full contingent of popular Sydney radio and TV channels, whereas in Newy local and regional TV is far more popular.

CULWULLA

February 7th, 2008, 04:00 AM

best of both worlds

Fabian

February 8th, 2008, 11:24 AM

I like the TV on the Central Coast as you can pick between Sydney and Newcastle. I don't mind watching NBN news for something different. :) Some parts of Sydney can receive NBN.

But all programming for NBN comes out of Newcastle. They tried a Central Coast Bulletin some years back but reverted back to an edition from Newcastle. I havent seen much Central Coast news and same with The Newcastle Herald. Local radio is best bet e.g 2GO, SEA FM and STAR FM and fortunately I can receive them on my radio here in the shire.

CULWULLA

February 8th, 2008, 11:53 AM

i like NBN, they show local news. always stuff about surf carnivals ect.
i mostly listen to 2GO, also starFM is good.
finally an approved devlopment in terrigal? looks good
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/230/terrqg2.jpg

lowey

February 8th, 2008, 12:08 PM

nice love it looks good

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February 10th, 2008, 06:08 AM

So they are wacking this thing up right in the middle of the Esplanade ... hmmm goodbye to the bottleshop and newsagent. I have to say the parcel of land available doesn't look big enough to hold what I see in the pic above. It's just a small sliver of land wedged between the esplanade and the small lane and car park behind it, and buildings to either side.

It's a mismatch of styles and looks like a dog's breakfast to me. I'd rather see a more simple terrace style development with hanging gardens. 4 Levels right on the beach front is a good sign though as most of the developments in this strip are only 2 floors.

Fabian

February 10th, 2008, 10:15 AM

It does look cramped in but a nice project.

Joelby

February 11th, 2008, 02:15 AM

I think it looks like a bag of shit. I think it will age terribly... :(

CULWULLA

February 12th, 2008, 02:08 AM

Westfield TUGGERAH is set to grow again with a $75mil upgrade which will feature a KMART.
It will total 99,000sqm after expansion.The proposal before Wyong council will also add a futher 678 car spaces.

CULWULLA

February 13th, 2008, 10:46 AM

what a great idea from latest central coast news
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/713/breweryhz8.jpg

CULWULLA

February 13th, 2008, 10:49 AM

also from the DA Application page-
is that a total of 110 units? because thats sounds quite large.

suburb-Gosford
DA number-34204/07
applicant-Dantraq PTY LTD
retail,Commercial,medical & residential (55 serviced apts,53 units)
lots 0-5 sp;4827, lot 11 dp; 1046189, no 1-5/150,Henry parry drv & no 7 Watt st

lions2006

February 14th, 2008, 10:11 AM

Things are finally starying to happen on the central coast. Also announced is the warnervale town centre, that suburb is going to take off with a lot of new housing development starting to come along.

Cell.Phone

February 14th, 2008, 09:40 PM

is that brewery the bluetounge moving from newy. Makes sense considering you have bluetounge stadium lol

CULWULLA

February 21st, 2008, 04:25 AM

interesting. i read an article yesterday about how Central coast tourism moved there promotional office from terrigal to Mount Penang and since there vistors into the centre has quadrupled.
Mt Penang is a great spot, sort of gateway to the Peninsula.

Fabian

February 21st, 2008, 06:26 AM

It's also on the Pacific Highway leading into Gosford and the F3 runs along the back. Much more central.

CULWULLA

February 25th, 2008, 02:48 AM

something interesting in SMH
woy woy and gosford have greatest numbers of regional commuters but only handful of parking. state gov have got to get priorities right soon.
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2008/02/24/1203788147694.html

CULWULLA

February 25th, 2008, 04:13 AM

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/2794/5302794ml1185769556.jpg

APPROVED DEVELOPMENT SITE - HEART OF GOSFORD CBDAPPROVED DEVELOPMENT SITE FOR SALE IN THE HEART OF GOSFORD CBD
201 MANN STREET GOSFORD
MIXED USE APPROVAL
* 32 LARGE HOME UNITS: 24 X 2 BEDS, 8 X 3 BEDS
* GROUND FLOOR - 230SQM RETAIL
* 1ST FLOOR 778SQM COMMERCIAL
* 62 CAR SPACES
* PRIME CBD POSITION, OPPOSITE GOSFORD RAILWAY STATION AND BUS TERMINALS
* TOP FLOORS WILL HAVE GOOD VIEWS OF BRISBANE WATER
NOTE: GOSFORD COUNCIL WILL SOON GAZETTE A NEW 2007 LEP WHICH WILL INCREASE THE EXISTING
HEIGHT LIMIT FROM 30 METRES TO 36 METRES. THIS WILL BE A FURTHER BENEFIT TO THIS SITE.

MOTIVATED VENDOR HAS JUST REDUCED THE ASKING PRICE TO $2.2 MILLION + GST (PREVIOUSLY $3.2 MILLION + GST

LanceDriver

February 25th, 2008, 04:39 AM

^ wow! about time in gosford. how many storeys?

Fabian

February 25th, 2008, 05:39 AM

10 storeys, so it doesnt quite qualify as a scraper but at least this is a start :)

CULWULLA

February 25th, 2008, 10:58 AM

^its 36m, so its scrapes in as a skyscraper.

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February 25th, 2008, 11:47 AM

LOL that looks exactly like the council chambers reskinned for 2008.

Fabian

February 25th, 2008, 12:23 PM

^its 36m, so its scrapes in as a skyscraper.

Even better except if you are Frank Sartor or from Planning NSW where it has to be 14 storeys tall.

LanceDriver

February 26th, 2008, 02:55 AM

^ from what i'm reading, that design is for a 30m height limit and may benefit from the increase to 36m so i'm guessing an extra 2 or 3 floors. it still doesn't mention the number of floors though. 35m is what emporis use to define a skyscraper minimum height. i notice a lot of sydney skyscapers are exactly 35m on emporis. ;)

CULWULLA

February 26th, 2008, 04:35 AM

^thats because they are. A 35m height limit exists in the city. alot of buildings i put on emporis are 32m give or take a meter topped with LMR or plant which equates to 35m.

lions2006

March 7th, 2008, 11:07 PM

Sale of cop shop a real cell-out Express Advocate 6th march 08

Ruth Ross and other members of the Residents of Kincumber Association are appalled at the decision to sell the police station.

COP shop for sale. Five rooms plus study, two cells removed, three toilets including a disabled one, one bathroom, off-street parking and zoned residential.

Only 12 years old, set on a 734sq m block and hardly used or occupied.

The controversial Kincumber police station is up for auction with bidding expected to start about $330,000.

If it exceeds that, it will be a bargain because it cost taxpayers $1.13 million to build and equip it. An open house has been scheduled for tomorrow.

Quietly and without fanfare, police signs on the station were removed some time last week and a Raine and Horne Kincumber auction sign erected in their place.

State Treasury has possession of the police station and engaged United Group Services to offload the public asset.

"This is a slap in the face for the community," Ruth Ross, of the Residents of Kincumber Association, said.

"There's been no announcement just a total disregard for the community."

Ms Ross and her group have been campaigning to have the police station staffed since it was built in 1996.

The NSW government is an absolute disgrace, what a waste of taxpayers money.. This staion should have been open from day one, particularly with crime around Kincumber starting to increase.

bobbain

March 8th, 2008, 07:14 AM

Finally some movement

Bulldozers move in on beach

Bulldozers have moved in on Ettalong beach for the first stage of works on the Ettalong Beach plan of management.

Gosford Council project officer Mr Dave Medcalf said that since getting the plan approved by the Minister for Lands, council had provided some funding to begin clearing work on the foreshore.

Mr Medcalf said council had cleared vegetation from two proposed viewing deck areas, and had blocked off the toilet at the eastern end of the foreshore three weeks ago.

He said the toilet blocks would be demolished in the near future to allow for a third viewing area.

"The removal of the vegetation has provided some very good viewing areas for the public," Mr Medcalf said.

"Part of the process will include keeping vegetation for the dune area.

"We have fenced off the beach area, between where the beach and the dune area starts.

"In the next few weeks we will construct more fencing to keep the public out."

Mr Medcalf said the viewing decks would be developed over time.

He also stated that in the near future, council would mulch the sand, which would then be levelled off to control the sand from moving.

He also stated that a silt fence had been provided at the back of the beach.

Mr Medcalf also noted that council had recently submitted a regional partnership grant application, in the hope of securing some more money for the redevelopment.

CULWULLA

March 8th, 2008, 07:22 AM

lions-yeah thats really stupid. not only kincumber needs a police station but also in Umina. ferals just think they can do anything and they do.
bbain-thats great. saw it this week. cant wait til its really takes shape. I also read about a $3.5mil pearl to umina beach walk to be constructed soon. that would be a great walk. many clamper around the rokcks now but having a boardwalk that runs around bottom of cliffs will be superb.

CULWULLA

March 17th, 2008, 01:44 AM

some sort of good news about the F3.
in todays CC times
$28m cross-over plan to ease accident delays
some of points-

Roads minister has unveiled plans for 19 cross-over points that will connect northbound and southband sections of the sydneys busy northern artieral to the central coast and newcastle.!
In response, the plans also reveiled stockpiling of bottle water at number of locations.he said crossover points will have new sighnage. these zones will be where drivers will simply drive around accident instead of being halted up for hours.
the minister said it would take 18months to rollout all the changes but 6 cross overs would be fully functioning by Easter.

CULWULLA

March 24th, 2008, 12:45 PM

took this the other night from my balcony
ive called it-Moon over umina
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2285/2357732912_b2496732de_b.jpg

CULWULLA

March 31st, 2008, 12:10 AM

went past ettalong foreshore on sat. looks amazing. about 50% of scrub removal has taken place, really opening up the streetscape to the water.
this pic shows the site of former toilet block . now you can see water!!
also the rest of the hideous scrub can be seen in centre of pic. this will be removed in next few weeks.. then boardwalks will be built with lookouts.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3028/2375454296_140619b2e3_b.jpg

update on highrise

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2284/2374619643_407ebf7a03_b.jpg

just a pretty pic looking towards lion island from ettalong

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2233/2375455312_0c562c5086_b.jpg

LanceDriver

March 31st, 2008, 12:53 AM

cool ! by hideous scrub do you mean native landscape?

CULWULLA

March 31st, 2008, 01:03 AM

^its actually a weed. the greenies have been up and arms about its removal but public and council won in the end. Druggies ect use the scrub at night so this will rid them. also vermon. The area will be replaced with low growing natives plants.

CULWULLA

March 31st, 2008, 01:13 AM

heres an old clip of views from mantra.
you can see the scrub directly infront. thats whats going and replaced with low plants and baordwalks.

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/3048/scan0001viewdv4.jpg

bobbain

April 1st, 2008, 11:40 AM

I was up at Ettlong a couple of weeks ago and it was good to see some progress. Cul, On the foreshore there is a unit block that has been partially knocked down. There has been no work done for at least a year. Do you know what the story is with that site????

CULWULLA

April 1st, 2008, 12:46 PM

i dont know of that. where abouts is it?

CULWULLA

April 1st, 2008, 02:50 PM

great news in todays express advocate
UMINA TO GET A 'FAIR' GO.
Umina Beach is a step closer to being the next Erina fair, the peninsula chamber of commerce has said.
The chamber has revealved GCC are going to adopt a zonign change which wille xpand the cBD.
this will attract anchor tenants such as retail giants woolies or coles.
The Coles group is upgrading its bi-lo site in west st into a medium sized coles.
it goes on more about LEP and GCC new 2007 strategy.
We see this as being vitally important of the Umina beach town centre to ensure oportunity exists for high quality commercial and retail space to be added.
mr wales said small business in Umina struggled because many people went to Erina ,gosford,hornsby ect
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This is great news for me. This will give my kids a future in our little township and give the peninsula future with employment and job oportunites ect.

Fabian

April 2nd, 2008, 03:06 AM

Good news, but I thought they were considering building a massive mega mall. A bit of exaggeration in that press release.

CULWULLA

April 4th, 2008, 06:53 AM

great news in todays express advocate
CITY GATEWAY TOWERS GET THE NOD:banana:
The spark which could reignite development in Gosford glimmered on Tuesday.
GCC approved the DA for 2 towers on either side of Mann st in north gosford.both standing 8storeys/35m tall.
The 117 unit development compelte with office and retail space could be the long awaited cab of the rank under councils new city wide local enviroment plan.
After 3 years of trying developer Kevin shmidt was finally given green light for the gateway towers.
Developments of this nature will have a postitive contribution to the success of gosford town centre.
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yes 8storeys doesnt sound much but there mixed use and qualify for emporis at 35m. which equates to 11storey unit blocks.

cammo2004

April 4th, 2008, 07:15 AM

Good news, but I thought they were considering building a massive mega mall. A bit of exaggeration in that press release.

There simply isn't the room. Not just the peninsula, but the whole of Gosford Council is pretty much built out, which is why the rampant NIMBYism that plagues the area has been such a hindrance for the area.

CULWULLA

April 9th, 2008, 06:53 AM

CULWULLA

April 11th, 2008, 03:18 AM

well this is great news!!!
masterplan for Spurbest site? thats excellent, then interested parties like Mirvac ,LL and Stockland will submit there proposals!

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/8859/gosfordrevampht0.jpg

Fabian

April 11th, 2008, 08:38 AM

I cannot believe that this is still going. I still have the scanned front page of the Newcastle Herald from feb 2004. Lets hope we see some action at last.

CULWULLA

April 16th, 2008, 11:11 AM

great stuff
the next 12 months will be interesting:banana:
from todays express avocate

http://www.expressadvocate.com.au/images/2008/04/15/kerrpic.jpg

Gosford CBD gets Mr Fix-it

16Apr08
Planning guru Bill Kerr and mayor Jim Macfadyen look over the CBD area which is to be revilatised.

MEET Bill Kerr the billion-dollar man with a plan.

The planning consultant has been given responsibility for rejuvenating the long-suffering Gosford city centre.

Mr Kerr was chosen because of his successful revamps of city centres at Coburg and Greensborough in Victoria massive projects worth more than $1 billion.

They were so successful they gained both centres recognition as major regional cities.

Mr Kerr and a team of "city builders" have been brought in by Gosford Council to implement a series of plans for Gosford Central Business District.

These include a "catalyst project" which would get the city moving.

Mr Kerr's job will be to work with all levels of government and business and he will specifically find a private partner to draw up a masterplan for the city by the end of 2008.

"I think you've got more than enough reports, you've got enough strategies, you're at the point where you have to implement something you have to do something," he said.

Mr Kerr said the old Spurbest site next to Gosford Primary School could be the site for a catalyst project.

"We are excited about a cityscape or plaza there."

PLANNING expert Bill Kerr admitted he had trouble finding the CBD when he first came to Gosford.

"I went looking for the city centre and as I drove through it I missed it," he said. " You can drive through it and not stop in it.

"It's not very attractive, it is not very pretty, there's things about it that make you shake your head.

"This community deserves a better city centre."

He said the region's sense of community was a "fantastic sign in as far as driving change".

"Our business is about getting between local authorities and the development market," he said.

"We've got to remember it will take some years to drive change because people, by nature, do not like change.

"But I can't believe it will be too difficult to get people to believe in something that's positive."

The council's city centre development director Colleen Worthy-Jennings scoured the internet and travelled to Queensland, the ACT and Victoria before finding Mr Kerr.

"After talking to him for 10 minutes I found he had more experience than any other consultant," she said.

"How many people can say they've built a $1 billion city?"

Mayor Jim Macfadyen said there were a lot of exciting things happening in the city centre now and in the coming 12 months.

"This will be an exciting time when many year's preparation and planning move beyond the strategy stage."

Gosford Chamber of Commerce president Bob Bourne said it was exciting to see Mr Kerr bringing people together to achieve a common goal.

"That is, a vibrant city centre of 15,000 people, services and infrastructure to match and the commencement of confidence to move forward," he said.

LanceDriver

April 17th, 2008, 06:02 AM

^ is that an apartment block over 3 storeys in the background? how did that ever get approved? that's a sign of the horrible overdevelopment that is going to happen in "my gosford" when i live at woy woy (e.g.).

Fabian

April 17th, 2008, 07:39 AM

That picture just illustrates the potential for Gosford and how run down the place is.
I do agree about Gosford needing a focal point for residents, workers and visitors. There is just no reason to go to Gosford at all.

CULWULLA

April 19th, 2008, 05:52 AM

went in the 1km and 2km terrigal ocean swim today. very squally conditions but was great. took me 20mins for first race and 40mins 2nd.
im in there somwhere
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2411/2423885253_32175f0b9f_b.jpg

managed to take a pic while leaving
the massive crown plaza (rear view)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2357/2423885257_f017589c3d_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2126/2423885259_0a0a39f573_b.jpg

Joelby

April 20th, 2008, 02:10 AM

I remember when that monstrosity got built... I lived up the back on the hill as a kid as they tore down the old hotel (Florida Hotel I think?) and put up that thing... :ohno:

Avatar

April 20th, 2008, 05:36 PM

The Florida was a shitty old crap heap, building the then Peppers on the Sea was the best thing to ever happen to terrigal. Crowne Plaza has been terrigal's only saving grace for the last decade at least ... the place has been so run down it's the only thing that looks remotely inviting.

Fabian

April 21st, 2008, 12:44 AM

Crowne Plaza is very popular with Sydneysiders looking for a short escape. The Entrance also has some good hotels.

CULWULLA

April 26th, 2008, 01:32 AM

2x 20storey towers for Tuggerah??? APPROVED!! wow
who would have the thought, the tallest building between sydney and newcastle would be in Tuggerah. obviously, devlopers see potential in the area.

from express advocate
Tuggerah proposal a gateway to prosperity

Friday 25 April, 2008 12:01am

MULTI-storey high-rise will dominate the skyline if a proposed $743 million development earmarked for paddocks at Tuggerah gets the green light.

Last July, Westfield lodged a rezoning application and masterplan with Wyong Council for 42ha of land it owns next to Westfield Shopping Centre.

The proposal includes two 20-storey towers, with one a hotel and conference centre and the other office space.

It will be opposite the twin-tower residential blocks at Mardi and has already attracted fierce opposition from Mardi residents.

To Page 2It is understood the owners of that proposal, Terrace Towers Group, has yet to lodge an amended development application that would see 11 and 13-storey towers.

The tallest building in Wyong shire is a 15-storey residential block at The Entrance, now a landmark which completely dominates the skyline and is visible from almost all corners of Wyong shire.

The project could generate $1.3 billion in economic activity and create more than 2000 jobs a year during construction.

Known as The Gateway, it could eventually house 1100 residents and 7636 workers.

It is proposed for land next to Westfield Shopping Centre on 42ha bound by the F3 and Wyong Rd.

The area is grazing land but this would make way for dwellings, the business park, high-rise office tower, commerical area and a 320-room hotel and conference centre.

Wyong Council is considering the rezoning application lodged by Westfield.

Westfield has submitted a master plan and the application has been with the council since July.

Part of the plan will include central public space with parkland, creeks, recreation and community amenities including walking and cycle paths.

Depending on relevant approvals, Westfield's development executive Matt Healy said the project could be a reality within 10 to 15 years.

Mr Healy said the site was ideally located for the proposed developments, almost on the F3 and the railway with retail and residential areas nearby.

WYONG Mayor Warren Welham has asked council staff to co-operate with Westfield to ensure speedy approvals.

"The council has had it for eight months," Cr Welham said.

"My concern is that it is a significant site which will create a lot of jobs and we need to act on it as a priority application. "I wanted to ensure we had the best outcome for the site as quickly as possible."

The Gateway project is a key component in the council's strategy to ensure Tuggerah and Wyong are the shire's main CBD precincts.

Cell.Phone

April 26th, 2008, 01:55 AM

:o sweet but does tuggerah have enough demand for a 320 room hotel??

go the CC that developement came out of nowhere i guess lol

lowey

April 26th, 2008, 01:59 AM

wow sounds good

Fabian

April 26th, 2008, 05:36 AM

Tuggerah has emerged as the commercial centre for the Wyong region, so it's worthy of the honor. Lots of potential out there.

This should be a wake up call to Gosford.

And remember this photo from Dec 2006 that I took at Westfield Tuggerah??? Amazing this will change from farmland to a highrise precient.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/Fabian/PC050504.jpg

BSD

April 27th, 2008, 05:47 AM

That sounded way overdeveloped, similar to Gold Coast. No need to ruin local environments!

Hows The Entrance looking now? Last time i went there few years ago, seeing those highrises scorching upwards!

Fabian

April 27th, 2008, 11:00 AM

I havent been there in a year but the tallest that tend to go up are only 8 storeys. Alot of the fibro shacks closest to town have been bought up for these highrises.

Here's the tallest building at The Entrance, indeed Wyong and the Central Coast - the 15storey Mariner apartments (56m tall), and yes i nearly got to stay in an apartment there last time but when you have a group of friends who want to stay up late and party, it's not the right place to be.

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/3554/themarinersmall6pz.jpg

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/1792/themarineriismall8et.jpg

Skyline

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/Fabian/P1010450.jpg

LanceDriver

April 28th, 2008, 03:19 AM

all this goes to show that the central coast is a sprawled area without a true heart/centre. i'm not sure if it's a good thing but it sure is different within australia. you've got these major centres without any dominant one, ie, gosford, terrigal, woy woy (and surrounds), tuggerah, wyong, the entrance and then all those smaller centres on the northern side of the lake.

Cactus

April 28th, 2008, 04:20 AM

Tuggerah is starting to look like a strong contender as the areas future regional centre.
It is the only point on the Central Coast with a large retail centre (Westfield/Supacentre) close to rail and freeway access, and plenty of greenfield sites around it.

LanceDriver

April 28th, 2008, 04:58 AM

^ the sad thing is gosford should be playing that part but it's being left behind to become a backwater. it's most tallest possible is about the height of these ones proposed in tuggerah but chances of gosford ever getting the same are almost nil regardless of the "state imposed" new height limits.

Cactus

April 28th, 2008, 07:09 AM

Gosfords development of Erina was - in some ways - a mistake, that has had a long lasting effect on the CBD of Gosford.
Tuggerah holds the nearest rail access to the largest shopping facilities, between Hornsby and Newcastle (perhaps Kotara or Glendale).
The Tuggerah straight is an underdeveloped commercial strip, ripe for a line of talls linking the admin centre of Wyong to the growing commercial centre of Tuggerah.
I you look at a map of the coast, Tuggerah is at that mid point between Woy Woy in the south to Mannering park on Lake Maquarie in the north.

CULWULLA

April 28th, 2008, 07:13 AM

I can tell you now, Gosford will get the first building over 15storeys in next few years.
the imfamous Spurbest site overlooking brisbane water in Gosford has been given its own planning athourity and is set to be given a masterplan asap and multiplex, stocklands and mirvac are all trying for tender.
Gosford can build up to 25 storeys!
yes i too think Tuggerah/wyong is the growth centre of CC.
but Gosford has been given life support by the melbourne town planner and amzing things will start to hapen to the dump.

Cactus

April 28th, 2008, 07:33 AM

Please dont get me wrong. I hope that Gosford gets the development it needs, it has such a beautiful setting. I just remember a city that was full of life with department stores and shoppers. Then they decided to build Erina.
It is easier for a Gosford city resident in Woy Woy or Narara to get a train to Tuggerah than to have to changing buses for Erina.

CULWULLA

April 28th, 2008, 12:16 PM

yes getting to erina is a real pain. gosford or tuggerah is so much easier for teens and oldies.Gosford needs a nice big modern westfield type complex right opposite station with pedestrian bridge connect and tall tower above shops.

BroadGauge

April 28th, 2008, 02:03 PM

I see it's being said that Tuggerah is in a good location being on the rail line. How many people actually go there by train though? I would not say many. Most rail patronage on that line is to either Sydney & Hornsby or to Newcastle.

The only places that have more than a hourly rail service to Tuggerah are Wyong, Gosford, Woy Woy, Hornsby, Strathfield and Sydney Central. Do many people from places like Koolewong, Tascott, Lisarow, Ourimbah and Narara which are serviced by the hourly Wyong trains as well as places like Warnervale, Wyee, Morisset and the numerous Lake Macquarie stations shop at Tuggerah?

Fabian

April 28th, 2008, 02:21 PM

i know someone at uni who lives at Narara but prefers taking trains from Gosford when making the daily trek to Strathfield.

If it can be done I'd be good if there were local Central Coast services which could serve the suburbs of the Central Coast with Gosford, Woy Woy, Tuggerah and Wyong.

BroadGauge

April 28th, 2008, 02:56 PM

You mean like those 2car K sets which do Newcastle-Morisset(-sometimes-extending-to-Gosford) shuttles for Woy Woy to Wyong or something?

Alternatively you could just run more of the Sydney-Strath-East-Hornsby-Berowra-all to Hawkesbury River-Wondabyne on request-Woy Woy-all to Wyong trains which are hourly at the moment and about 30min in peak.

LanceDriver

April 28th, 2008, 11:42 PM

Westfields isn't all that close to the station though.

Cactus

April 29th, 2008, 04:49 AM

I see it's being said that Tuggerah is in a good location being on the rail line. How many people actually go there by train though? I would not say many. Most rail patronage on that line is to either Sydney & Hornsby or to Newcastle.

Plenty of people use Tuggerah station for commuting and shopping.

The only places that have more than a hourly rail service to Tuggerah are Wyong, Gosford, Woy Woy, Hornsby, Strathfield and Sydney Central. Do many people from places like Koolewong, Tascott, Lisarow, Ourimbah and Narara which are serviced by the hourly Wyong trains as well as places like Warnervale, Wyee, Morisset and the numerous Lake Macquarie stations shop at Tuggerah?
I have used the train from Newcastle to get to the shops at Tuggerah, Its not a huge crowd but its growing.The freeway is also a bonus. People from places like Kariong would have a better trip to Tuggerah than Erina.

BroadGauge

April 29th, 2008, 10:48 AM

What a useful post that was.

Let me clarify a few points:
- I was asking how many shoppers use the station. Not many I think. Not counting people who use it as it is their closest station.
- Because you have used the train it does not make it busy.
- Yes, it is growing not declining, like most rail services in NSW.
- Freeway is evil and not on topic.
- Wyong Shire sucks.

Cactus

April 30th, 2008, 01:03 AM

What a useful post that was.

I posted my own personal view. If you consider that useless then that is your problem.
Let me clarify a few points:

- I was asking how many shoppers use the station. Not many I think. Not counting people who use it as it is their closest station..
What do you think I am? The Bureau of statistics?
You think not many. When was the last time you stood in Anzac rd or Bryant dr to count the number of people making the trek to the shopping centres?
Never I would suggest.
Many commuters who do use it as their nearest station, also use the shops after work. Another advantage of having the station and shops close, unlike Erina and Gosford.

- Because you have used the train it does not make it busy..
I never said it was busy. Yes I have used the service to Tuggerah on occasion, and yes I have had a handfull of people making the same walk to the shops. Again a personal observation.

- Yes, it is growing not declining, like most rail services in NSW.Ya dont say. Is that why I had to stand in the train to Gosford.

- Freeway is evil and not on topic..
The freeway runs through the Central Coast and I mentioned it as another reason for Tuggerahs advantage. Right on topic.

- Wyong Shire sucks.
Sure what ever you say. What a useless part of a post that was.

BroadGauge

April 30th, 2008, 08:28 AM

Useless, but true :)

BroadGauge

May 12th, 2008, 06:14 PM

LanceDriver

May 12th, 2008, 11:14 PM

Suburban shopping malls are designed almost 100% around the car. Having a train station nearby is almost coincidental. Even parra and bondi junction westfields which sit right next to stations are designed foe the car. Fat suburbanites will not bother getting rail to a mall when their car will take them right to the nearest escalator for the food court. I hate these relics of the 80s we keep building especially the try hard "town centre" types like rouse hill, that incidently has been designed around the car but like to spruik that maybe one day the will have a train station.

BroadGauge

May 13th, 2008, 09:23 AM

Parra is at least well integrated with the station and you see a lot of shoppers taking the train/bus. Still has a lot of multi-level carparking.

Tuggerah is one of those co-incidental ones that it has a station nearby. As I have said before, most shoppers would not find the train frequencies provided to be of much use.

A fair few CityRail stations are near major shopping centres, being:
- Parramatta (Westfield Parramatta)
- Burwood (Westfield Burwood)
- Miranda (Westfield Miranda)
- Penrith (Westfield Penrith)
- Blacktown (Westpoint)
- Hornsby (Westfield Hornsby)
- Tuggerah (Westfield Tuggerah)
- Wollongong (Wollongong Central & CBD)
- City Circle Stations (Sydney CBD Shops)
- Macarthur (Macarthur Square)
- Bondi Junction (Westfield Bondi Junction)

Stations that are too far away to be use to shoppers:
- Kotara (Westfield Kotara)
- Liverpool (Westfield Liverpool)

Blah blah blah...

BSD

May 13th, 2008, 10:57 AM

Parra is at least well integrated with the station and you see a lot of shoppers taking the train/bus. Still has a lot of multi-level carparking.

Tuggerah is one of those co-incidental ones that it has a station nearby. As I have said before, most shoppers would not find the train frequencies provided to be of much use.

A fair few CityRail stations are near major shopping centres, being:
- Parramatta (Westfield Parramatta)
- Burwood (Westfield Burwood)
- Miranda (Westfield Miranda)
- Penrith (Westfield Penrith)
- Blacktown (Westpoint)
- Hornsby (Westfield Hornsby)
- Tuggerah (Westfield Hornsby)
- Wollongong (Wollongong Central & CBD)
- City Circle Stations (Sydney CBD Shops)
- Macarthur (Macarthur Square)
- Bondi Junction (Westfield Bondi Junction)

Stations that are too far away to be use to shoppers:
- Kotara (Westfield Kotara)
- Liverpool (Westfield Liverpool)

Blah blah blah...

Yea blah blah blah......

Westfield Hornsby at Tuggerah? Lets see....you didn't edited your posts than i do.

LanceDriver

May 13th, 2008, 01:25 PM

^ Ha ha ha! Looks BG has quietly fixed it.

After seeing that list it just makes me more convinced that shopping malls are designed around the car. Or is it just that we are so car dependant? How many people catch the train to those places over the option of driving?

Cactus

May 14th, 2008, 08:49 AM

Didn't see any masses getting off the 9:15am Central-Newcastle train at Tuggerah on Saturday - surely if so many people use the train to go to Westfield there might be a few people wanting to get there at around 10:30am.

At least it has a better service than Westfield Kotara does (also on the same line) - rail line goes past it, nearest station is 1km away and only serviced by one train every two hours on weekends :nuts:

Saturday morning? I caught the weekend morning trains home after many years of night shift, very quiet at times.
Again, I never said it was busy. I drove through Tuggerah on Saturday at around 0800, I noticed half a dozen people waiting to cross from the station. Did you have the time to watch to see if the people that did get off at Tuggerah crossed to the commuter carpark side of the station and continued on to the Supacenta.

Stockland Glendale seem keen to have a new station built closer to the shops. They should just leave the nearest station as Sulphide Jn, That should attract the shoppers.

BroadGauge

May 14th, 2008, 09:40 AM

Saturday morning? I caught the weekend morning trains home after many years of night shift, very quiet at times.
What, the 03:48 Newcastle train? Well of course that won't be busy :lol:

My 8-car V set was well loaded with passengers.

Again, I never said it was busy. I drove through Tuggerah on Saturday at around 0800, I noticed half a dozen people waiting to cross from the station.
w00t, 6 people got off a train at Tuggerah to go to Westfield. Soo many.

Did you have the time to watch to see if the people that did get off at Tuggerah crossed to the commuter carpark side of the station and continued on to the Supacenta.
No, I was going to Hamilton, not getting off at Tuggerah.

Stockland Glendale seem keen to have a new station built closer to the shops.
It's an official NSW government proposal. So is UWS Nepean. Eventually it will happen.

When it does, Cardiff will cease to be serviced by Newcastle-Sydney trains, as Glendale will become the long distance interchange station :)

They should just leave the nearest station as Sulphide Jn, That should attract the shoppers.
Huh?

CULWULLA

May 14th, 2008, 11:22 AM

ok guys, dont fuc up my central coast thread/. enough

BroadGauge

May 14th, 2008, 11:47 AM

ok guys, dont fuc up my central coast thread/. enough
^^ Huh?? :nuts:

Just a bit of friendly debate to do with rail services on your precious Central Coazt.

CULWULLA

May 15th, 2008, 04:07 AM

^thats cool
from yesterday sun
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3142/2493912628_22b299666f_b.jpg

LanceDriver

May 15th, 2008, 04:25 AM

LOL - i like how they still have to try and strike fear into the public by saying "multi-story". the thing is bloody low-rise! it should have a tower or 2 incorporated into it to help boost the city but no - it's multi-story! i'd like to know if the state plan for gosford cbd would allow this to go taller than it is.

CULWULLA

May 15th, 2008, 06:57 AM

yes 2-3 storey isnt exactly highrise is it? they should have taken advantage of the views across the racecourse. and brissy waters

LanceDriver

May 15th, 2008, 07:39 AM

not knowing the location exactly compared to the height limits in the plan, does anyone know what the limits are in this area?

CULWULLA

May 15th, 2008, 10:20 AM

its probably 3 storeys. its a km i think from CBD

bobbain

May 16th, 2008, 05:01 AM

Not much space for new dwellings on the Peninsula unless they build upwards. I hope Tesrol development at Ettalong gets the nod

New housing planned for Peninsula

Over 30 per cent of new housing in the Gosford local government area is expected to be located in and around the three Peninsula centres of Woy Woy, Ettalong and Umina, according to a report about Gosford's new planning scheme.

The report written by Gosford Council's planning staff described the new draft local environment plan (LEP), which was previously known as the Comprehensive LEP or Citywide LEP.

Both the Gosford Regional City Centre and the three Peninsula Centres were expected to bare the brunt of new housing, at over 82 per cent in total.

The aim was reiterated throughout council's report.

The report stated: "All future urban development will occur through increased density within the defined urban footprint with over 82 per cent of new housing expected to be located in and around the Regional City Centre and the three Peninsula centres."

It stated that the 82 per cent would be housed in medium to high density housing located within 800 metres of the existing major railway stations of Gosford and Woy Woy, or within 400 metres of existing bus routes that connect with those railway stations.

Council officers stated that the directions and provisions adopted by council in the Peninsula Urban Directions Strategy (PUDS) were implemented in the draft LEP.

They stated that: "This means increased density of development surrounding centres with an emphasis on in-town housing in the centres.

"An altered mix of medium density housing forms will result, including subdivisible dual occupancy in the outlying and more isolated medium density areas of Umina, as outlined in PUDS.

"A new form of medium density housing (based upon PUDS garden apartments) has been developed which addresses the issues raised over time by the community and development industry regarding urban design and amenity.

"The LEP will provide the option for a new form of development which will result in improved urban and living outcomes, with the incentive of increased dwelling yields where larger lots are developed.

"The new forms of medium density require a minimum area of 750 square metres, hence in many cases amalgamation of two lots is required.

"Land so zoned may be developed in the same manner as currently occurs with villa or townhouse-type multi-dwelling development, or where higher unit yields are sought it may be developed with the new form of garden apartments with basement car parking.

"In this regard, developers can respond to the market with their chosen product."

Council officers also noted that there was expected to be a growing development of seniors housing in the form of self-contained houses, and more hostel and nursing homes were needed.

Officers also stated that a proportion of adaptable housing was also required to meet the housing needs of an ageing population, and hence would be required in a proportion of medium density housing.

Officers claimed that medium density housing also addressed affordable housing needs by providing more housing on serviced land, thus reducing land costs.

A range of sizes would provide housing variety.

It would be located conveniently to services, facilities, employment centres and public transport.

"The city's future residential growth will be focussed around the major urban centres of Gosford, the Regional City Centre, and Woy Woy Peninsula's three major centres," the officers stated.

Council officers suggested that the plan would help the environment.

Mixed development at the major proposed population centres would provide new employment as well as retail and commercial services within walking and cycling distance of residential development.

Increased employment near major transport nodes such as Woy Woy would reduce the dependence on cars for the increasing population, they claimed.

Council agenda ENV.41, 6 May 2008

Fabian

May 17th, 2008, 11:21 AM

The action needs to all be in the Gosford CBD itself!!! Lots of space for highrise dwellings. Get them in order first.

BroadGauge

May 17th, 2008, 11:56 AM

What about in Downtown Wyong City too?

crazyknightsfan

May 17th, 2008, 12:00 PM

imho Wyong will naturally die and be replaced by Tuggerah and Warnervale. There's simply not enough room for expansion at Wyong due to the flooding issues and the difficulty of providing a bypass for Pacific Highway traffic.

That reminds me of something quirky - LGAs where the Council's base has been replaced by another location within the LGA as the major commercial area. Take Lake Macquarie as an example - Boolaroo was well and truly usurped by Charlestown (and even Toronto, Belmont and Swansea), yet that's where the Council's offices and chambers are. How odd. Some of the tiny old LGAs in Sydney and Newcastle were a bit like that too.

BroadGauge

May 17th, 2008, 01:04 PM

Wyong will naturally die
Yay :banana:

Is there many developments at Warnervale now? I recall there was the proposed North Warnervale station which still hasn't been built. Still not much near the railway station.

Lol @ Boolaroo - thought that was just another one of those little stops you stop at on the 2car Newcastle-Morisset train. It has council offices!?

crazyknightsfan

May 17th, 2008, 02:17 PM

Is there many developments at Warnervale now? I recall there was the proposed North Warnervale station which still hasn't been built. Still not much near the railway station.

I meant the new Warnervale. I've seen the plans and they are crapola, given Wyong CBD could be relocated there. But still better than the low density sprawl that exists.

Lol @ Boolaroo - thought that was just another one of those little stops you stop at on the 2car Newcastle-Morisset train. It has council offices!?

You're thinking of Booragul. Boolaroo is about 2km north east of Teralba - the old steam tramway from Wallsend to Speers Point once ran down the main street in front of the Council chambers.

Speers Point (nothing more than a park really & a roundabout) is more important than Boolaroo too if RTA directional signage is to be believed!

BroadGauge

May 17th, 2008, 02:21 PM

New Warnervale = that area around the proposed North Warnervale? I know the current 'township' is of little relevance.

Oh shit - stupid similiar names. What else is at Boolaroo?

Teralba - another dumpy looking place on the railway, and a rather unloved looking station.

crazyknightsfan

May 17th, 2008, 02:30 PM

New Warnervale = that area around the proposed North Warnervale? I know the current 'township' is of little relevance.

Yep.

Oh shit - stupid similiar names. What else is at Boolaroo?

It has a fairly lengthy commercial trip along Main Road but at least half of it is low-value uses/closed shops. See here (http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=boolaroo,+nsw&ie=UTF8&ll=-32.953548,151.623269&spn=0.004519,0.01075&t=k&z=17). There used to be a theatre and whatnot from the glory days, probably somewhat related to the Sulphide place just up the road.

The main road from Warners Bay to Wallsend via Glendale used to run through the main street but it was bypassed in the late 70s. Not sure if it was dead by then, but probably.

Warners Bay seems to have grown into a little trendy village. It has a better spot, being right on the lake.

BroadGauge

May 17th, 2008, 02:46 PM

Pity there's not much along the rail line between Morisset and Broadmeadow.

crazyknightsfan

May 17th, 2008, 02:52 PM

Me agree. Retrofitting the Newcastle urban area to fit heavy rail is going to be an expensive and long-term proposition.

BroadGauge

May 17th, 2008, 03:02 PM

I made a decent post in the interurban thread in Transportation but didn't get any responses - but I reckon stations at Glendale and Westfield Kotara would heavily boost patronage on Newcastle-Morisset trains, although a boost in services would be needed, esp on weekends.

Otherwise the Newcastle-Morisset runs are fairly pointless - just to collect passengers from little used places and take them to either Newcastle or to Morisset for Sydney trains so that the Newcastle-Sydney ones can run express. Last time I caught one it only had a single digit number of pax heading to Newcastle at 2pm.

Also the Telarah runs need to be made more frequent on weekends, and not have silly gaps like 50mins between railcars followed by 3 trains within 20min on weekdays.

crazyknightsfan

May 17th, 2008, 03:09 PM

I was probably busy when I read it and so didn't have time to reply.

Glendale would be a godsend, but too bad there's no plans for high density living around the railway station. It would be excellent to transform the existing open-plan shopping centre into a town centre type development. In the interim, Cockle Creek is a good spot for interchanges, except no bloody trains stop there. But buses to Glendale Boolaroo/Warners Bay go past and buses to Wallsend could also be introduced.

Westfield Kotara is an interesting one. It would make for a good interchange between Northcott Drive buses but still perhaps not close enough to the shopping centre.

A radial line to Charlestown is needed in the future (whether that is via Merewether or Hamilton/Adamstown I'm not sure) with extension one day to Belmont and maybe Swansea.

I don't think the westerly corridor to Wallsend could ever support heavy rail - there just isn't enough critical mass, and densification adjacent to the main trunk route into Newcastle is a bad idea imho. Reinstatement of the old tram via Lambton could work, as could a tram from Warabrook running through the uni to Wallsend and then Glendale.

Baby steps though - Newcastle doesn't even have a half-decent bus network (unless you are travelling between the CBD and Hamilton where I got turn-up-and-go service :D) so that needs to be sorted first.

Those stupid non-clockface timetables and utter shite frequencies should be fixed straight away - it goes without saying.

I can't believe I had to wait for AN HOUR AND A HALF at 630pm for a fucking train to Sydney from Civic Station. I could have fucking driven there in that time. Ugh.

BroadGauge

May 17th, 2008, 03:19 PM

Glendale would be a godsend, but too bad there's no plans for high density living around the railway station. It would be excellent to transform the existing open-plan shopping centre into a town centre type development. In the interim, Cockle Creek is a good spot for interchanges, except no bloody trains stop there. But buses to Glendale Boolaroo/Warners Bay go past and buses to Wallsend could also be introduced.
Yeah Cockle Creek has interchange potential - albeit only a stop for the 2car K sets on weekdays, and the 2-hour frequency of Vs on weekends. Not all that much near it - almost went there once with some other RPers, but we decided to go to Cardiff due to the fact that it was pissing down with rain.

How often would you run Morisset trains? With some more patronage generators I reckon a 30min off-peak/weekend service could be justified, maybe terminating every 2nd at Fassifern if need be.

How much residential is there anywhere near Glendale station?

Westfield Kotara is an interesting one. It would make for a good interchange between Northcott Drive buses but still perhaps not close enough to the shopping centre.
It's close enough for people to use it to the shops - an undercover walkway or something would make it more enticing, so would a nearby entry into Westfield.

What do you think of the current Kotara Station? I got off there once, all it was near was a park and suburban back streets. Rather isolated from anywhere - much too far from Westfield.

A radial line to Charlestown is needed in the future (whether that is via Merewether or Hamilton/Adamstown I'm not sure) with extension one day to Belmont and maybe Swansea.
I've thought about that one too before. Heavy rail? How would you construct it?

Baby steps though - Newcastle doesn't even have a half-decent bus network (unless you are travelling between the CBD and Hamilton where I got turn-up-and-go service :D) so that needs to be sorted first.

Those stupid non-clockface timetables and utter shite frequencies should be fixed straight away - it goes without saying.
Yeah Newcastle's buses are fairly shit - last time I looked at a timetable it was something like a bus 20mins after the one before, then 40min, 20min, etc. Mostly a pensioner carrying service :lol:

I can't believe I had to wait for AN HOUR AND A HALF at 630pm for a fucking train to Sydney from Civic Station. I could have fucking driven there in that time. Ugh.
Lol - you missed the 6:28pm express - not a bad trip on that one. I remember I caught the 5:20pm one that day ;). How could you drive from Newy to Sydney in 1.5hrs? Takes 2.5 on the fastest train.

crazyknightsfan

May 17th, 2008, 03:30 PM

How often would you run Morisset trains? With some more patronage generators I reckon a 30min off-peak/weekend service could be justified, maybe terminating every 2nd at Fassifern if need be.

My rule of thumb is usually 15min or don't bother. I see 30min as a token service that won't attract choice customers unless there are significant barriers to car travel e.g. no parking - but those aren't really choice customers and those conditions certainly don't exist in Newcastle (except for CBD).

How much residential is there anywhere near Glendale station?

Fuck all. Argenton is a medium walk (made longer by the huuuuuuge car park at Stockland(?) Glendale) and Glendale low density residential is further away. This station will be reliant on:
a) park-and-riders who combine travel with shopping
b) people going to the shopping centre from somewhere else on the railway line
c) walk-up patronage to/from the Munibung Road side (not much)
d) feeder bus patronage (needs a major shake up, as you can't actually get a bus to Edgeworth after 7pm)

It's close enough for people to use it to the shops - an undercover walkway or something would make it more enticing, so would a nearby entry into Westfield.

What exact location would you place it at? Closer to Northcott Drive the better imho. Walking into Garden City (that shows my age ;)) is not enticing at all but can/should be improved.

What do you think of the current Kotara Station? I got off there once, all it was near was a park and suburban back streets. Rather isolated from anywhere - much too far from Westfield.

Wasteland. I'd keep it, give it frequent local services and then if the locals don't make use of it, close it.

I've thought about that one too before. Heavy rail? How would you construct it?

Tunnel with isolated open cutting sections where suitable. Probably funded mostly by gradual value-capture from property value increases. Long, long term proposal though - 24hr bus lanes on Pacific Highway would have to come first.

Lol - you missed the 6:28pm express - not a bad trip on that one. I remember I caught the 5:20pm one that day ;). How could you drive from Newy to Sydney in 1.5hrs? Takes 2.5 on the fastest train.

Didn't just miss it, I watched it go across the Merewether Street level crossing while I was stranded on the other side of Hunter Street waiting to cross. At least the CSA at Civic riding his motorbike on the platform was somewhat amusing (yes, I'm serious he did that - he must have had it stashed somewhere on the platform).

I've driven from my place to Newcastle and back for years and 1.5 hours is not CBD to CBD but still around about what you can expect for that trip in offpeak. 630pm in Newcastle is offpeak too ;)

BroadGauge

May 17th, 2008, 03:38 PM

15minute Newcastle-Morisset service? That would be interesting - they'd need to bring up 4 more 2-car sets to run it, or maybe finish some runs at Fassifern. Do you think it would be justified?

I'd put a Westfield Kotara stop somewhere near that main road on the same side as Garden City. Don't remember the name.

Would you do Charlestown/Belmont as heavy rail, electrified?

Lol @ motorbike CSA. Last time I used Civic on a weekday the CSAs there didn't even sell tickets!

(CBF quoting, sorry mate!)

crazyknightsfan

May 17th, 2008, 03:45 PM

15minute Newcastle-Morisset service? That would be interesting - they'd need to bring up 4 more 2-car sets to run it, or maybe finish some runs at Fassifern. Do you think it would be justified?

Depends on what your criteria for justification are. Like I said before, I don't believe providing a PT service less than 4 service per hour will bring you any choice customers (excepting access monopolies and severe restrictions on car transport). So it's all or nothing in that sense ;)

I'm not keen on short-workings either. I would actually probably run the services all the way to Warnervale, having them terminate there and connect to the limited stops services and Coastie locals that run between Berowra (or Woy Woy, if capacity issues south of there preclude the former) and Warnervale.

Would you do Charlestown/Belmont as heavy rail, electrified?

If you are going to the trouble of tunneling, yes I would. Whether it's metro or not would be a tricky question. Belmont is 20km from the CBD, Swansea about 30km - really stretching the friendship for metro style services.

Of course, by the time that happens, the land use policies will have ensured that a continuous corridor of dense mixed use development exists to make sure the travel on the line is not just line-haul. Without significant densification then it's obvious not worth investing in rail. The growth will come - not everyone can live in Sydney.

There is a corridor for an eastern bypass of Charlestown in the Pacific Highway absolutely must be relocated around Charlestown.

(CBF quoting, sorry mate!)

No worries. Bed time for me I think.

Oh and I think we should let the Coasties have their thread back... :lol:

CULWULLA

June 5th, 2008, 11:35 PM

from express advocate
RAPEDO FINALLY SET TO BEGIN
Developers of controversial dev in Terrigal will begin building within months.They have scrapped recent elaborate plans for the application that was approved in 2003.
Rapedo team has spent months in talks with Sartor and phillip cox architects but recieved luke warm response from council/public, which has cost the group millions.The 6storey development will include 2700sqm of retail, more then 90 units and a piazza.
Rapedo have said construction will start asap.

CULWULLA

June 9th, 2008, 11:34 AM

one of the most popular night spots on central coast
Iguanas Waterfront Bar at Gosford
bosca sounds like a dickhead.

Iemma grounds Della Bosca but won't sack him
Article from: The Daily Telegraph
June 09, 2008 03:40pm

PREMIER Morris Iemma has refused to sack Education Minister John Della Bosca over claims he and his federal MP wife were abusive and threatening to restaurant staff during a night out.
Mr Iemma, who demanded a written explanation from Mr Della Bosca today, has issued a statement indicating the Minister will keep his job.

Mr Della Bosca and his wife Belinda Neal denied the serious allegations made by six staff of Iguanas Waterfront Bar at Gosford on the Central Coast.

The Minister drove Ms Neal away from Iguanas afterwards despite having told Parliament on May 13 that he would stop driving because he was about to lose his licence for repeated speeding offences.

Premier Iemma said today: “Mr Della Bosca has insisted he is not at fault in this (Iguanas) incident.

“He has also provided a written official apology from the restaurant concerned, which appears to support his account.

“There is currently no allegation of criminal behaviour – and given the club’s apology and withdrawal of claims – no allegation of improper conduct. “

Mr Iemma said Mr Della Bosca would explain the incident to Parliament at its next sitting, including the reasons behind his decision to drive away from the location.

“Notwithstanding the legal status of his licence, I have instructed him not to drive again in the period before his formal cancellation takes effect,” the Premier said.

“The Police Commissioner (Andrew Scipione) has today been contacted and supplied with all written materials.

“If further allegations are made by any involved party in relation to this matter, Commissioner Scipione will be asked for his consideration and advice.”

But Opposition Leader Barry O’Farrell said only an independent inquiry could determine what occurred during, and after, the Iguana nightclub affair and satisfy the public whether or not undue influence was applied.

“It’s unacceptable for John Della Bosca to try and pronounce his own ‘not guilty’ verdict. It lacks any impartiality and fails the public interest test,” Mr O’Farrell said.

“After John Della Bosca’s false claim on May 13 that he would no longer drive, the public can’t believe him.

“Morris Iemma should appoint a former judge or a barrister to inquire into this affair, including Friday night’s incident and Mr Della Bosca’s subsequent actions.

“The public has a right to know what has gone on in this matter, what if any threats were made and what if any pressure has been applied to the club owners.

“Having sacked Carl Scully for lying to Parliament in 2006, Morris Iemma should apply the same test to John Della Bosca.”

Mr O’Farrell said that in addition to being Leader of the Government in the Legislative Council and Education Minister, John Della Bosca was also the Minister for Industrial Relations.

“At the centre of this scandal is the treatment of hotel workers – their treatment on Friday night and since,” he said.

“Only an independent inquiry can get to the bottom of this sorry saga.”

LanceDriver

June 9th, 2008, 12:33 PM

I hate people in positions of power that use it to bully people and use that line "don't you know who I am?".

CULWULLA

June 15th, 2008, 03:25 PM

etalongs comign along with its foreshore rebuilding
the timber boardwalks and decks are to start soon

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views towards lion island
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new 4storey in main street
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BroadGauge

June 22nd, 2008, 10:11 AM

Saturday morning? I caught the weekend morning trains home after many years of night shift, very quiet at times.
Again, I never said it was busy. I drove through Tuggerah on Saturday at around 0800, I noticed half a dozen people waiting to cross from the station. Did you have the time to watch to see if the people that did get off at Tuggerah crossed to the commuter carpark side of the station and continued on to the Supacenta.

I went to Westfield Tuggerah last month. The 9:45am Central-Wyong (all stoppers north of Berowra) weekday train only had 10pax getting off at Tuggerah. About 5 kids off the train walked to Westfield - nobody else, apart from me.

It's an awful walk - across the road, down past some industrial places, up a winding ramp over a footbridge, down another ramp, and through the car park finally to get into Westfield. No wonder that almost nobody goes there by train.

Tuggerah:
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crazyknightsfan

June 22nd, 2008, 10:16 AM

Nice shot, BG, I'd be proud of that one.

CULWULLA

June 22nd, 2008, 02:20 PM

view of woy woy from staples lookout/
bottom left-train station,
bottom centre-carpark and kmart
bottom right-st johns church
background-st huberts island
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CULWULLA

July 1st, 2008, 11:39 PM

great news for us central coasters.
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CULWULLA

July 5th, 2008, 10:39 AM

managed to pay a visit to Norah head lighthouse today while i was up at budgeiwoi
such an impressive structure to come across out there. nice waves too. saw some whales in distance
the tower was built 1903 and reaches 90ft. (27m) it had a museumin room at base. and tours were every 30mins

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Fabian

July 6th, 2008, 12:01 AM

It's a beautiful lighthouse. It can be seen from many parts of the Central Coast like The Entrance.

As you know I despise Sartor, but he's the only person who has bothered to do anything with developing the Central Coast. It's long overdue.

BSD

July 6th, 2008, 05:56 AM

Mini Byron Bay lighthouse hehe!

CULWULLA

July 6th, 2008, 06:07 AM

Norah head lighthouse is 27m tall.

Byron bays tower is only 18m.
http://www.lighthouse.net.au/lights/NSW/Cape%20Byron/Cape%20Byron%20erik.jpg

lowey

July 6th, 2008, 06:10 AM

lol bsd eat shit

BSD

July 6th, 2008, 06:14 AM

LOL? Norah Head lighthouse looked smaller than Byron Bay one......... I have been to both lighthouses. Byron seems bigger lol.

Lowey watch your manners.

CULWULLA

July 6th, 2008, 09:21 AM

another "central coast" lighthouse is the one at palm beach.
its classified as a sydney light but its only 7km south of Umina.
http://www.lighthouse.net.au/lights/NSW/Barrenjoey/Barranjoey%20Head%20af%201.jpg

CULWULLA

July 7th, 2008, 10:52 AM

i knew st johns at woy woy would win somehting at this years awards. its too good not too.

NSW awards kick off first national accolades

The initial State winners in the lead up to Australia’s first national steel awards were announced for NSW and ACT at official presentations held at Star City, Pyrmont on 27 June.

The ASI accolades were awarded to entrants in four categories of Architectural Steel Design, Structural Engineering Design, Metal Building Product Design and Multi-Level Building Design, with winners in the first three categories to vie for the national honours to be announced in September in Perth. Kingston Building’s entry on St. John the Baptist Catholic Church building in Woy Woy was named the winning project for that project team in the Architectural Steel Design category. The NSW Structural Engineering Design category was won by Arup’s entry on behalf of the project team behind the Allianz Centre redevelopment at 2 Market Street in Sydney’s CBD. Brookfield Multiplex’s submission on the Latitude East building development at World Square in Goulburn Street, Sydney topped the Multi-Level Steel Building category for that project team. The RAAF Liquid Oxygen Extraction (LOX) facility in Richmond won in the Metal Building Product Design category based on the entry from project team architects, Campbell Luscombe Folk Lichtman. ASI State Manager – NSW & ACT, Phil Casey said the nature of entries well portrayed the diversity of innovative applications possible using predominantly Australian-made steel. “The awards highlight the high standard of design and execution achievable with the versatility of steel, aesthetics and the industry’s capacities and efficiencies,” he said. Winners of the other state awards will be announced in coming months – Victoria (25 July), South Australia (15 August), Queensland (22 August), and Western Australia (15 September).

the all steel St Johns church @ woy woy

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CULWULLA

July 10th, 2008, 01:32 AM

holy crap. 7m white pointer?
BIG WHITE FRIGHT IN FISH NET
Central Coast Monster
A fisherman accidentally netted a 7m great white in a central coast lake before letting it go.
Police have issued a public warning after the full grown shark was caught in commercial nets at Tuggarah lakes about 5;30am yesterday.
"He got his nest out and felt something extremely large get into his net,he heard it thrashing around and hit his boat from underneath."
Chief Inspector Tim Winmill said the fisherman was terrified he caught the shark under his 5.5m boat near Canton beach.
After cutting it loose, he realised how big it was with its head and tail protruding either end of his boat-thats how he come up with its length!
The fisherman was shaken after the ordeal but not injured.The veteran fisherman is known to Primary Industries and is extremely credible,, no reason to doubt story, chief insp said.
scary shit

Cee_em_bee

July 12th, 2008, 10:21 AM

BSD

July 12th, 2008, 10:39 AM

Wow thats rare shark in lakes!

CULWULLA

July 15th, 2008, 09:34 AM

went to mt ettalong lookout today for walk.
gorgeous day
towards Ettalong
my playground! Umina and Ocean beach along with the BOX.

very flat surf today
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got into Gosford yesterday
lots of DA approved sites

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this tower will be great addition to streetscape.
builders>
www.nazero.com.au
10storey on mann st
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its started
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another 10storey
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lowey

July 15th, 2008, 10:13 AM

gee i love the central coast whats the latest on the big subdivision at gwandalan i use to live in gwandalan in the 90s

lions2006

July 19th, 2008, 05:45 AM

There seems to be a lot of development talk around West Street in Umina, Culwulla you may know more about this.

There is a DA for a new Woolworths/ Caltex service station at the end of West Street where the old Mobil station is currently closed up. Also the Mitre 10 is closing down, apparently Woolworths own the site and they are building a Big W or something similar on the site. Talking to the staff there, the hardware store has to be closed in about two months time. Ha anything been approved for the site??

Also in Alfred Street behing the BI LO a couple of houses have been demolished... Not forgetting the new surveilance cameras to be installed along West Street, these may be exciting times for the much under developed shopping strip.

CULWULLA

July 19th, 2008, 12:10 PM

^yes, the bi-lo is expanding and engulfing a few houses in alfred st and caltex. should be huge. also woolies has acquired mitre10 and other lots to expand to make big store.
a few months ago chamber of commerce have indicated Umina be the place for commercial/retail growth in next few years. a mini erina fair if you will.
its all good.
i a;lways think of my kids when i hear about this news.
a future for umina youth.employment and jobs ect

Fabian

July 20th, 2008, 11:17 AM

I thought BiLo was on the way out with all of their stores to be rebranded as coles.
We need some major developments in Gosford to really get the region going and provide some good jobs for locals.

Choko

July 21st, 2008, 05:50 AM

I thought BiLo was on the way out with all of their stores to be rebranded as coles.

I thought that Flemings was meant to be rebranded as Woolworths too years ago. It was a real step back in time to see the Flemings on West Street - in fact the Umina shopping precinct seems to have an early 1990s feel to it. Maybe someone could provide a photo...

We need some major developments in Gosford to really get the region going and provide some good jobs for locals.

Definitely.

LanceDriver

July 21st, 2008, 05:55 AM

CULWULLA

July 21st, 2008, 06:30 AM

I thought that Flemings was meant to be rebranded as Woolworths too years ago. It was a real step back in time to see the Flemings on West Street - in fact the Umina shopping precinct seems to have an early 1990s feel to it. Maybe someone could provide a photo...

Definitely.
ok, this is what i know.
bi-lo (Coles) is eating up all properties around bi-lo atm and will expand.
Woolworths is devlope Flemings and most of block across which is mitre10 ect.
Hoepfully a nice big complex. will lift locals and give empoyment to area.
West st looks cool still. all the telegraph poles have gone and lots of outside eating. ect. A few highrise are being mooted. the catholic church site on west st is now empty and waiting approval for 5storey -75unit units.
Also another 4storey on trafalgar wil have grd floor retail with 3storey units above.

aerials from googoo earth
West Street (left to right)
bi-lo large bldg top left), flemings rusty roof in centre), mitre10 blue roof)
trafalgar site-lower grass area at right.

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thought id show its great location.
so close to beach/ but no real connection.
needs boardwalk along umina to ocean beach around the ettalong.

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zoomed out to show Umina town centre compared to ettalong far right

Chamber of Commerce have chosen umina as expanding retail/commerical hub and Ettalomg to have highrise hotels ect
You can see massive mantra hotel far right)

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Choko

July 21st, 2008, 08:59 AM

ok, this is what i know.
bi-lo (Coles) is eating up all properties around bi-lo atm and will expand.
Woolworths is devlope Flemings and most of block across which is mitre10 ect.
Hoepfully a nice big complex. will lift locals and give empoyment to area.
West st looks cool still. all the telegraph poles have gone and lots of outside eating. ect. A few highrise are being mooted. the catholic church site on west st is now empty and waiting approval for 5storey -75unit units.
Also another 4storey on trafalgar wil have grd floor retail with 3storey units above.

Thanks for that Culwulla, looks as though Gosford City Council have undertaken some streetscape improvements through Umina town centre. My impression of the place is that it feels like a coastal country town even though the Woy Woy/Umina area has a population in excess of 30,000.

BTW, the Mantra hotel at Ettalong Beach really dominates the skyline, can't miss it. I'm somewhat surprised it was approved when you account for the surrounding single/two-storey developments.

lions2006

July 21st, 2008, 10:38 AM

Umina and Ettalong has so much potential, has been neglected for so long by the Gosford council.
They are finally starting to spend some money at Ettalong beach. I believe all this development will eventually push up house prices and get rid of the losers that give this region a bad name.

CULWULLA

July 21st, 2008, 11:22 AM

^Yeah, story in todays paper about forshore. platforms have started! see story below

CHOKO-
The Mantra took 10 years from start to finish. the zone in ettalong allows up to 9storeys. there are 2-3 devlopments trying to achieve this .been in courts for 2 years. one has approval for 6storeys and the other 7storeys. so this will add to skyline and mantra wont stand out as much.

from todays peninsula news
LOTS OF GOOD NEWS

Woolworths plans petrol station

Woolworths has lodged a development application for a new fuel outlet on the old Caltex site on the corner of Ocean Beach Rd and West St, Umina.

"After several year's inactivity, the Chamber welcomes the move by Woolworths Limited to redevelop the old Caltex site at Umina Beach," said Peninsula Chamber of Commerce president Mr Matthew Wales.

"The corner is a prime gateway site to the Umina Beach town centre which was badly in need of redevelopment.

"With the old service station fenced off and left unmaintained, it presented a poor face to the shopping centre at a time when pedestrian and shopper activity is vital.

"The decision by Woolworths to build a new fuel outlet will enliven the corner, clean up the entry to West St and more importantly provide much-needed competition in fuel sales for residents and business people."

Mr Wales said the trend in recent years had been to close service stations and limit the supply outlets.

"Clearly Woolworths recognises that the Umina Beach town centre is a thriving and growing retail precinct with a great future," Mr Wales said.

"This decision by the company clearly demonstrates that major business has a lot of confidence in the shopping precinct and comes on the back of the decision by the Coles group to revamp the existing BiLo Supermarket and extend their car park in Oscar St.

"The Peninsula Chamber of Commerce has strongly advocated the need for anchor buisinesses to stimulate retail activity in the Peninsula town centres.

"The increased presence of the major retailers in our town centres will obviously place pressure on business across the board.

"However, as a business community, we need to recognise that they are here to stay and, therefore, we must take the opportunity to piggy back on the inevitable increase in customer trade coming through our town centres."

The development application was lodged to council on June 4.
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Chamber welcomes viewing platforms

The construction of the first of the viewing platforms on the Ettalong Beach foreshore, expected to start this week, has been welcomed by Peninsula Chamber of Commerce Mainstreet coordinator Ms Debra Wales.

"This is great news," said Ms Wales.

"The timber viewing platform is part of the approved Ettalong Beach Foreshore Management Plan adopted by Gosford Council with construction being funded through the Ettalong Beach CBD Financial Strategy funds.

"The Peninsula Chamber has been working closely with council in recent years to ensure that the foreshore works progress in accordance with the adopted plan.

"It has taken a number of years to negotiate this outcome with community and conservation groups but, in the end, we were all generally happy with the outcome.

"The recent removal of the old toilet block at the end of Picnic Parade and the clearing of the weeds, lantana and bitou bush has really opened up the views over Broken Bay.

"The construction of the first of three viewing platforms will further enhance the foreshore and is the beginning of much needed physical infrastructure that will support the local tourism industry."

Ms Wales said that the Chamber is continuing to work with council on Federal funding opportunities so as to access dollar-for-dollar funding for future works along the foreshore.

"We are also very pleased to see the new pedestrian path constructed as a result of State funding secured by Member for Gosford Marie Andrews," Ms Wales said.

"Ms Andrews has been very supportive of the project and we look forward to further support from the NSW State Government."

The building company who will be undertaking the project is Cameo Homes, Tumbi Umbi.
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Foreshore work 'accords with' plan

Work on the Ettalong Beach foreshore was "in accordance with" the plan of management for the area, Gosford Council's director of city services Mr Stephen Glen has told council.

He has provided answers to councillors' "questions without notice" from previous council meetings.

Cr Terri Latella had asked if there had been a substantial amount of vegetation removal at Ettalong Beach and if this removal was is in accordance with the Ettalong Dune Management Plan.

Council's acting director of city services advised Cr Latella that the area of foreshore concerned was "unfortunately affected by fire, causing an apparent excessive amount of material to be removed".

The acting director said the area would be "reinstated with new plantings in accordance with the Plan of Management".

The acting director also noted that the further removal of weeds and vegetation undertaken has been consistent with the intent of the Plan of Management and the supporting document the Ettalong Beach Dune Management Plan.

In reply to another question from Cr Latella, Council's director of environment and planning Ms Colleen Worthy- Jennings advised Cr Latella that any subdivision in the Wagstaffe and Killcare Peninsula needed to comply with Development Control Plan112 Residential Subdivisions and Development Control Plan 130 Subdivision for Rural and Non Urban Land, which came into effect on November 16, 1999.
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July 22nd, 2008, 05:13 AM

CULWULLA

July 26th, 2008, 04:49 PM

driving past massive ALDI store uc at Point clare today
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3174/2703190095_e246a533d9.jpg?v=0

CULWULLA

July 28th, 2008, 12:34 AM

went to Gosfords Bluetongue stadium yesterday arvo where ccmariners beat sydney fc 3-0
bit of rain kept crowd small.
but soon sun was out and magnificent afternoon

for some friggen reason flickr wont let me upload my high res pix, so ive dulled them down to post

as you can see, bluetongue stadium is very picturesque

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3275/2708276178_cf3e87a9bb_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3058/2708171538_fa84651cba_b.jpg

looking towards small group of marinaters

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3230/2708290150_63bf185f70_b.jpg

the vista south is amazing
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3295/2707523353_5c27b7ffce_b.jpg

LanceDriver

July 28th, 2008, 12:15 PM

did you catch your goalie sniffing coke?

CULWULLA

July 28th, 2008, 02:01 PM

na, hes clean now. he such a talent.

CULWULLA

July 29th, 2008, 01:15 AM

BIG NEWS!
Jon singleton has been named as patron to secure the Aussie surf life saving titles for Noraville for the 3 years -2010,2011,2012.
The lakes beach near toukley would attract 7000 competitors, 1000 officials and 8000 supporters who will stay for a week in region.
the local community would benefit greatly.
im involved with surf life saving and this will be awesome for central coast.:banana: bring it on.
the current titles are in scarborough in WA until 2009. so this will be a bit easier to get to.

Cee_em_bee

July 31st, 2008, 02:06 AM

Cee_em_bee

July 31st, 2008, 02:11 AM

CULWULLA

August 8th, 2008, 02:12 PM

some piccies from today
new 5storey/75unit block planned for West st umins. cant wait for this one.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3189/2744120586_5d6b299e40.jpg?v=0

boardwalk lookout at ettalong
first of 3
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3037/2744120580_b50e6b0d39_b.jpg

new highrise in east ettalong
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3067/2744120560_41de2d8856.jpg?v=0

MATTYB

August 9th, 2008, 09:35 AM

Hi everyone,

This is my first post, so hopefully it will work! I live on Central Coast so I'll be able to provide some additional information.

Okay to start, on 5 Aug. GCC approved a 16-STOREY MIXED USE BUILDING in Gosford CBD, on Watt Street and Henry Parry Drive. It will have a supermarket, medical centre, offices and 101 units.
The pic on at top of this website is what it should look like- http://www.architex.com.au/

Aldi at Point Clare is coming along well, traffic lights will be relocated soon to cover the intersection near the station. The frames for the building are all up and now they are starting to put roofing on.

The Riverside Park at West Gosford (incl. KFC), with a 4-storey office block is said to be starting construction very soon. And the site on the cnr of CC Hwy and Racecourse Road opposite the Racecourse, will become part of Central Coast Holden and they are going to start construction soon. At the moment they are excavating the site for old underground fuel barrels.

From word of mouth, the Woy Woy Commuter Carpark will be extended again putting 2 extra levels (7-stories after the extension) on top of Northern half of it (owned by DOT) approx. 292 extra spots. That's what I have heard so don't quote me on it.

I hope some of this information is relevant to this thread.