there's still plenty of ferals there, especially in the bit between Umina and Woy Woy proper
where do you llive ? newcastle? they have 10x more "ferals" then central coast.ive seen them.lol
most of newcastle is made of westies. am i wrong?

where do you llive ? newcastle? they have 10x more "ferals" then central coast.ive seen them.lol
most of newcastle is made of westies. am i wrong?

Actually the worst areas on the Central Coast are around Lakehaven but Umina and Ettalong were once home to the most feral of the Central Coast's inhabitants ... it is marginally better these days.

Areas of Newcastle around Lake Macquarie esp Mt Hutton and Gateshead are quite rank and some of the areas out near Maitland and Raymond terrace have and ingrained feral culture.

In a coastal area your always going to have people moving away for employment, higher education etc. Central Coast isn't an acception. A lot of you people under rate how great the place is. Its beautiful, relaxed and what 40 mins to Sydney? For a lot of people the Central Coast is near perfection. If you want to live in a city move to Sydney or at least Newcastle.

There is no reason the Central Coast can't have a proper city and still maintain it's appeal. It can offer more to everyone. Why would people want to place impediements in the way for developing some small sections of the area, when they can generate income, create jobs and provide sustainable options for residents?

Tell me what is relaxing about peak hour gridlock along central coast highway every morning and afternoon peak? This is not going away. It's far too late to expect things to stay the way they are it simply must develop in certain areas to assist with building suitable infrastructure to better help the entire area cope with it's current growing pains. More residents concentrated around high density centralised development will give rise to greater spending, and greater investment. Bring on the International Airport for Somesby ... that is really what is needed to sort out the place IMO.

Your right about the gridlock. The roads need a massive improvement, they're shocking. When i was there it was one lane each way on the main highway? To each their own, you make good points Avatar I just don't think the Central coast needs skyscrapers. Buildings up to 60-70m would definately sort out alot of the problems they have. How large is the Central Coast in area? The Central Coast is always going to have problems with young people moving there is no way around it. It happens on the South Coast, Wollongong, Newcastle, Canberra, I even have friends from Perth who want to leave because they think its too quiet. Everyone wants to go to Sydney and Melbourne by the sounds lf things. Also Brisbane these days.

where do you llive ? newcastle? they have 10x more "ferals" then central coast.ive seen them.lol
most of newcastle is made of westies. am i wrong?

thats a bit unfair cul, parts of the central coast are just as feral populated than newy, every city has them you can't avoid it.this is what invincible was trying to avoid some months ago
:ohno:

I live in feral central. Like Cell.Phone said they're all over the place.

where do you llive ? newcastle? they have 10x more "ferals" then central coast.ive seen them.lol
most of newcastle is made of westies. am i wrong?

good post, extremely constructive

i'll translate it into plain english for y'all

"yes the central coast is feral, but newcastle is feraler coz u live there, nar nar nar nar nar"

btw I have cousins that live at Matcham and I never thought the place was that desirable to live in

^^ thats exactly what i thought he meant aswell, cul be careful how you word things or post as you should be setting an example as a mod, their was a giant discussion for using a persons location in response to a post especially when you are bad mouthing it in deffense of youself. :ohno:

im only writing about newcastle being feral because mr crazyknightsfan keeps fucking saying the central coast is full of ferals and its not.so i think im allowed to retaliate and say what i ffriggen want?
most of central coast live on the coast or near beaches. so yes some parts are low income estates. newcastlkes population are mostly away from coast. thus the wording of 'westie" . hey i have rels that live at edgeworth. they even hate the place. lots of ugly fat useless people walking around.
btw, i can put shit on novcastrians because im one ;-)
anyway lets move on..

not a very proude novocastrian (you even spelt it wrong haha)

CC is full of ferals, so is every other effing city and town weather it be newy or sydney or canberra.

whatevs im done now

I’m just pointing out some truths, not slagging you off personally.

I used to think Edgeworth was paradise when I was a youngin, not realising how rough it could be. That said, there’s only one isolated section of real feraldom and that’s the houso estate around the southern end of Ridley Street.

There’s a lot worse places in Newy than Edgey, e.g. Cardiff South, Windale et al. They all have things in common, too – lower to mid socio-economic status, extreme car dependency and a lack of local facilities and youth entertainment.

I don’t believe I have ever said Newcastle has no ferals – and I point out home truths about Sydney, where I live, all the time.

This has been a sharp increase in the amount of rubbish and sledging here in the past 24 hours.

With Avatar's comments, I agree with him on the roads. These roads are what you find well outside urban areas. Safetywise, this is not good. It disgusts me the reliance on roundabouts to slow traffic down at major intersections. Accidents are just waiting to happen.

Accidents may happen but they will be at a lower impact speed = less severe

Mind you, the roundabouts are a big improvement in what some of the intersections used to be like - e.g. Central Coast Hwy/Tumbi Rd was on top of a crest with extremely poor sight distance, Pacific Hwy/Wyong Rd was a stop sign :nuts:

speaking of the stupid F3. theres was a bad accident this afternoon near mt colah. big semi overturned, killed driver. now traffic mayhem.:bash:

Something that may be on-topic:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/bored-and-isolated-teenagers-run-wild/2007/06/04/1180809430235.html

Culwulla - you should be a role model for the younger posters, being moderator and biggest poster. Your rebuttal to KFC was shit - attack the issue, not just the poster.

sydney CBD is only 1hr10min by train. i do it everyday and love coming back over the hawesbury bridge knowing that im back on the coast.
I like trains (heck, I ride them for fun), but doing a long commute and not getting home until late sounds horrible even to me.

At this time of year, it would be dark for most of the trip home.
The Central Coast isn't even part of the Sydney metro it's a gathering of towns.
No, it's an urban area, one that's heavily reliant on another.

In a coastal area your always going to have people moving away for employment, higher education etc.
What happens when you try to build a city with employment near a cost - boom, up it goes in smoke? What does it's coastal location have to do with this aspect? :ohno:

I don't like the argument "but the CC is a place to relax" - if it's full of people, they don't want to spend their lives sitting on the beach.

I don't like the argument "but the CC is a place to relax" - if it's full of people, they don't want to spend their lives sitting on the beach.

LOL I agree but there are so many on the coast that line up for their centrelink payment every fortnight, just so they can sit on the beach and do nothing. If it's raining they can be found at the local, stoned and smashed up on alcohol, or at the card machines gambling away our generous taxes. Their last dollar going on a pack of winnie blues. What do they eat for dinner ... most often noodles in a cup or macaroni and cheese. What's in their fridges? ... nothing. It's a vicious circle of shit, their children are brought up like shit and so the cycle continues. It's horrific, centrelink should not be available to them.

Roundabouts were placed on the coast in the hope to improve traffic, initially they were a gimmick that in many ways worked but as traffic volume has increased and education has not continued problems have multiplied. The Entrance Road/CC Hwy is littered with them and in reality it should have none and half the roads joining it should be closed down and diverted to another join location. The problems with some of most was education and people not using roundabouts correctly. Multi-laned 2 and 3 lane roundabouts have caused problems with lane changing and accidents and a couple have been replaced with lights (ie terrigal drive and the entrance road at erina). Ironically some of the bigger ones have seemed to function better in lighter traffic.

driving Wyong Road is like being stabbed in the eye with a rusty spoon. roundabout hell. there's 15 roundabouts in 10km :nuts:

Yeah true ... tuggerah straight is not straight.

CC is plagued with roundabouts, they are mostly found around or outside housing estates

L2-you do realise i was mostly kidding with crazyknightsfan. we always have tifs. because he goes for jets and im mariners. ect.
dont read into things to much. i dont.

^^ umm yes you do lol

so it was a friendly scoccer thingo then gottcha :okay:

I once played soccer in a friendly against the Mariners at Blue Tongue Stadium. Wasn't really a proper match though more of a meet and greet with the players on the pitch and some fun with the ball.

That sounds pretty cool. One of my old coaches was a former Socceroo's player from the 70's or something haha he's old as and he got us a game against the Australian under 20's. Pretty much for them it was like playing against a bunch of witches hats. I think we lost 9-0.

av-you serious? how cool.
speaking of mariners, that played there ACL match last night in kawasaki and played great in pissing rain. last time they lost 5 zip, this time much better team and was 1-1 most of match but lost 2-1. that was great.
btw, great local news. probably the best posi in Umina. cnr ocean beach rd and west st, the derilict ampol service station for 2 years is to be bulldozed and you guessed it a brand new maccas!
no more going to woy woy. it will be so poplular. great for young employment for kiddies.

nice new mag for central coast= Coasting
http://sunweekly.realviewtechnologies.com/

btw, great local news. probably the best posi in Umina. cnr ocean beach rd and west st, the derilict ampol service station for 2 years is to be bulldozed and you guessed it a brand new maccas!
no more going to woy woy. it will be so poplular. great for young employment for kiddies.

wasnt that going to be a woolworths servo?

Yeah whatever happened to the new Woolworths servo there??

City of Gosford has recieved 2 DAs for a total of 65 residential units between 26-36 Hely Street, West Gosford. This is good news!! :) Can anyone find any other info on this proposed development ie Height. The applicant is United Pacific Properties. Anyone heard of them before?

the news of maccas isnt public yet. ;-)
not sure but woolies may have just adjusted its budget and concentrated on new centre further up west st.
matty-wheres hely st?

the news of maccas isnt public yet. ;-)
not sure but woolies may have just adjusted its budget and concentrated on new centre further up west st.

couldnt we have a hungry jacks or a burger king instead???

we wish

couldnt we have a hungry jacks or a burger king instead???

Over rated to buggery, but cheap.

Hely Street is off Central Coast Highway where the Hungry Jacks is... Settlers Arms is up there too. The street leads up to the lookout on President's Hill

ok, 65 units between 2 blocks?? well most unit blocks have about 6 per floor, so maybe 5-6 floors high?

Hely Street is off Central Coast Highway where the Hungry Jacks is... Settlers Arms is up there too. The street leads up to the lookout on President's Hill

I went for a walk around along that street last night then down fielder st (first on the right just past the motorcycle shop) theres a few abandoned houses and factorys along there that should be demolished

this is great news! :banana:i use this park nearly everyday
its right next to our surf club
Payday for world class sport, recreation project

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Vicki Scott, Mark Arbib, Chris Holstein and Belinda Neal, with Kyle Kaulkner and Charlotte
news Local News 07 May 09 @ 11:40am by DENICE BARNES

Vicki Scott, Mark Arbib, Chris Holstein and Belinda Neal, with Kyle Kaulkner and Charlotte, 18 months, at the announcement of fu
PENINSULA residents have good reason to celebrate after funding for a world-class sporting and recreation facility at Umina Beach was delivered on Wednesday.

The Federal Government will contribute $3 million towards the $4.3 million cost of the Peninsula Recreation Precinct.

The money will result in renovated tennis courts and clubhouse, an upgraded skatepark and BMX track, upgrades to the sports oval, footpaths, lighting and car parking, construction of a new playground, playground equipment, new pathways and cycleways and fitness equipment for all ages and abilities.

The facilities are expected to be popular with families from all Central Coast suburbs.

Labor Senator Mark Arbib, the Parliamentary Secretary for Government Service Delivery, met with Roberston Federal Labor MP Belinda Neal and Gosford Mayor Chris Holstein to make the funding announcement.

Mr Arbib said the funding was part of the government’s $800 million community infrastructure program, the largest one-off investment in infrastructure in Australia’s history. “This integrated precinct has a total cost of $4.3 million and will be great for local sporting teams, community groups, tourists and especially for the young people of the Central Coast,” Ms Neal said. “I am delighted Gosford city has received further funds under the government’s community infrastructure program with $1.345 million already invested in local parks, sports grounds, playgrounds and community halls.” Gosford Councillor Vicki Scott said the funding announcement was a huge boost for the city. “Families from all suburbs will flock to the area,” she said.

Cr Scott, the council’s playground committee chairwoman, said the Umina precinct would have the largest playground in the city.

SFS architect to tackle Gosford
13/05/2009 11:36:00 AM
THE architect responsible for Sydney Maritime Museum, Acer Arena and the Sydney Football Stadium has been given the task of guiding the make-over for Gosford City.

Minister for Lands Tony Kelly yesterday announced the appointment of architect Philip Cox as design partner for the major redesign of the Gosford city centre the project known as The Gosford Challenge.


The Cox Group employs 300 architects and graduate architects in its Australian and international offices.


The company has won wide regard for its rigour in planning and urban design, mayor Chris Holstein said.


"From Dubai to Shanghai and Singapore, in every Australian capital city and many regional cities, they have prepared master plans for focal urban precincts, especially urban waterfronts," Cr Holstein said.


"To that long list of cities large and small for which they have produced master plans, they will now add Gosford, the regional capital of our splendid Central Coast. We congratulate the Cox Group on their well-merited appointment."


Gosford, and surrounding lands and waters, are vital to the social fabric and economic health of the whole Central Coast region, Cr Holstein said.


" A more vibrant Gosford will galvanise fresh opportunities for all who live here today and, importantly, for the scores of thousands of new residents who will make the Central Coast their home in the next one or two decades."


A revitalised Gosford holds the promise of new employment opportunities across a broad range of fields, including commerce, education, health and government services, he said.


Mr Kelly said there was an exhaustive selection process to choose a winner for the Gosford Challenge, a strategic partnership between the NSW Government and Gosford Council to design a revitalization of Gosford Harbour.


"Beating out 24 well-credentialed applicants, Cox Architects and Planners will spearhead the project as a focus for growth in Gosford and the Central Coast," Mr Kelly said.




Gosford MP Marie Andrews said it was great that one of Australia's best known architects would be working for Gosford.




"The community has been invited to contribute ideas to the Gosford Challenge and will be able to meet the designers and developers face-to-face to exchange views to develop the final plan for the project," Ms Andrews said.

http://www.coastingmagazine.com.au/news/local/news/general/sfs-architect-to-tackle-gosford/1512040.aspx

thats good news. cant wait for some DAs to come in.

^ Me too, sounds promising now! :)

There's a new commercial project gazetted for 13 Mann St (next to the police station).
Looks about 8 or so floors - should be interesting considering the high slope of the site. Hopefully get pics tomorrow :)

There's a new commercial project gazetted for 13 Mann St (next to the police station).
Looks about 8 or so floors - should be interesting considering the high slope of the site. Hopefully get pics tomorrow :)

Great find, 8 storeys is a good height for Gosford at the moment :) Where abouts did you find this info? Also Adwell Holdings have put in a new DA for the redevelopment of West Gosford Shopping Centre, i dont know the details yet so hopefully someone knows more than i do?

Great find, 8 storeys is a good height for Gosford at the moment :) Where abouts did you find this info?

there's a billboard outside the site which has only been erected in the past few days.... i go that way to work :)

Chris Holstein was on Ray Hadley's show on 2GB this morning talking about the planned redevelopment of Gosfords CBD then had a few callers on saying that they should get rid of the undesirable elements first before anything else can/should be done

If you remember back in 2007, Muse posted a proposal for a vacant site next to KFC at Ocean Pde, The Entrance.

This one is still pending approval two years later from Planning NSW

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Wyong is confident that it will weather the tough economic times

From The Central Coast Express Advocate

Large projects ‘are unfolding’
Local News 11 May 09 @ 04:19pm by DENICE BARNES
WYONG Shire is surviving despite the economic downturn.

While things have slowed, Wyong’s large areas of greenfield space for industy has underpinned its economic future.

Wyong Council’s business development manager Gary McLachlan said several large projects were unfolding.

“The Bluetongue brewery is going ahead creating 150 jobs at a cost of $150 million,” Mr McLachlan said.

“It should be finished by March next year.

“These kinds of developments always have a spin-off effect as well.

“And the Wyong Employment Zone is slowly taking off.”

Developer Terrace Towers, which built the Supa Centa and Tuggerah Business Park, has a large development on the boil in the Wyong Employment Zone west of the F3.

Mr McLachlan said the council understood it was a warehouse-distribution complex with large tenants.

Aldi supermarkets has agreed to build new stores - at Toukley and at Wyong - and Franklins will also move into Toukley by September.

The council has also approved a large four-storey commercial building for Tuggerah Business Park but would not say who the tenant would be.

Mr McLachlan said development alone was expected to create 1000 jobs.

“Things have slowed down a bit but it’s not all doom and gloom,” he said. “Unemployment is high on the coast but that can be an advantage for companies who come looking for access to a lot of good employees.”

Would be good to rename this thread aswell into #Projects: Gosford and Central Coast for better detailing.

And let me guess, you want the Far North Coast thread renamed #Projects: Ballina and the Far North Coast?

I found a photo of the site. It's towards the right hand side of the image

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Aldi supermarkets has agreed to build new stores - at Toukley and at Wyong - and Franklins will also move into Toukley by September.


this will be great news for Toukley I was in the main shopping centre the other week and it was very dead - lots of empty shops I remember it used to have Woolworths, Jewels Supermarket and Coles now only coles remains
I wonder where they will put the new supermarkets? I was thinking maybe Toukley plaza for Franklins (its all empty in there except for the chemist and a takeaway)

I thought Franklins gone? We didnt have them back in NR for years! Woolworthes replaced it in Lismore Square, Action (now Target) replaced at Ballina Fair. There was at Byron in 1995 too and it just disappeared.

Several dozen stores around NSW remained. Every second Franklins if I can recall was shut down or taken over by Woolworths. South African chain Pick n Pay owns the supermarkets.

Website - http://www.franklins.com.au/home/

Whatever happened to Jewel?

I can remember those supermarkets being located in North Ryde and Edgeworth - I think both became Franklins, and the latter is now a Coles.

Some became Franklins, others Coles, a few Woolies. The majority became apart of IGA.

One of my first jobs was working for Jewels at Turramurra which is now a IGA I also know that the Jewels stores at Lindfield (I noticed on Monday that the Jewel Food Barn sign is still attached to one of the walls there) and Beecroft are now both Franklins
The Bi Lo at Umina used to be a Jewels as well

Alstonville used to have Bi Lo and now its Coles. Before Lismore Square renos, Franlkins 'no frills' replaced by Food for Less which rebranded to Woolies after renos.

Whatever happened to Jewel?

I can remember those supermarkets being located in North Ryde and Edgeworth - I think both became Franklins, and the latter is now a Coles.

There was one at erina too.

From The Central Coast Express Advocate

Major resort plan gets scaled back
01 Apr 09 @ 06:38am by ERROL SMITH

MORE changes have been made to the proposed $97 million managed resort and residential development at the western end of The Entrance.

Applicants Terrigal Grosvenor Lodge plan to delete one residential flat building on the western side from the overall development.

It is hoped this will allay some of Wyong Council’s concerns, including effects on solar heating and overshadowing.

It would comprise 509 permanent and tourist apartments, a conference centre, retail area, restaurants, cafes, tavern, childcare centre, indoor amusement park, car parking and landscaping.

It is planned to be built on The Entrance Rd, on either side of Oakland Ave, and incorporating the old El Lago Resort.

Terrigal Grosvenor Lodge is keen to proceed with the development and the council supported it in principle at its November 26 meeting last year but deferred a decision pending further talks.

A council planning department spokesman said it was difficult to ascertain the extent of improvement that might flow from the amendments without final plans. A further report would be submitted to the council when these were received and assessed

Wyong to get a new performing arts centre

From The Daily Telegraph (dailytelegraph.com.au)

Wyong moves on arts centre
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Daily Telegraph
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Copyright 2009 News Ltd. All Rights Reserved

WYONG Shire Council will finally get a purpose-built performing arts centre of which residents can be proud.

The council agreed to proceed to the next stage of the long-awaited project and voted at its meeting on Wednesday to engage an architect.

The council voted to build the centre at the Wyong Memorial Hall site and to move the project through to the development application stage.

``This is a significant step in the development of the much needed centre,'' council's acting manager of future planning Paul Bowditch said.

The council had wanted to build the centre overlooking Wyong River but Mr Bowditch said the construction costs would have been ``prohibitive''.

The next stage is anticipated to be completed by March 2011, with the proposed opening in early 2014.

its back, and better:okay:
the senior living complex is now 4 bldgs and set to start soon.:clap:
the 40 unit complex will consist of a 5storey and 3x 3storeys bldgs
on former catholic church site on west st umina
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lots if big news today.
Wyong council have secured half a bil$ for a mixed dev at The Entrance with 8 towers up to 9storeys high.
State gov have created a fund for emoployment priority on the central coast which will creat thousands of jobs!

more news>
Gosford floats interest
12:00AM | Lisa Carapiet | The Australian Financial Review

Gosford City Council has flagged its interest in buying the failed Gosford Town Centre site to build a community civic centre - part of the NSW Central Coast city's long-term revival plan.

Cul, do you know where at The Entrance this multi tower project will be? I can see the locals opposed to it in big numbers.

^its already approved. not sure where. but media should provide more details soon.

forgot to mention. finally the dredging will start. pity we had to pay some.

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Brisbane Water dredging to go ahead after heated debate

news Local News 08 Jul 09 @ 07:49am by TERRY COLLINS

Brisbane Water channel dredging will now go ahead after a close vote at Gosford Council.

Green councillor Peter Freewater is delighted at the dredging decision.
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After almost a year of wrangling over who should fit the bill, Gosford Council voted last night to fork over $250,000 to help dredge the entrance channel to Brisbane Water.

Following lengthy and often heated debate, councillors finally agreed to match the $250,000 already pledged by the State government for the project.

This was despite a recommendation from council officers that the situation continue to be monitored.

Greens councillor Peter Freewater, who moved for an immediate commitment said further delays in dredging the rapidly silting dogleg near the channel entrance could lead to a tragedy.

“We have heard numerous times from organisations and residents concerned about the dangers to navigation in that channel,” Cr Freewater said.

“If this council really cared about its community, it would agree to the dredging as a matter of urgency.”

City services director Stephen Glen urged caution, telling councillors there were many other areas of the channel which were subject to siltation and it was important things were “kept in perspective”.

But Cr Vicki Scott joined the debate to support Cr Freewater, telling councillors they were “still mucking around” after a year of debate.

“This might very well be our last chance to accept the offer of $250,000 from the State government,” Cr Scott said.

In the absence of Cr Jeff Strickson, the motion was carried 5-4 with the Liberal candidates led by Mayor Chris Holstein plus independent Cr Craig Doyle voting against and Greens councillors Freewater and Terri Latella, Labor’s Vicki Scott and Jim Macfadyen and Central Coast First’s Laurie Maher proving victorious.

After the meeting, Cr Freeweater said it was a “great” decision and he was pleased to have been assured by Mayor Chris Holstein that no rescission motion would be lodged.

driving past the Entrance this morning. lovely day to be on the coast
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The water in the channel is nice and calm.

I have a feel that the project as shown by the crane is this one. Recent shot of action

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/0300/105870300ml1247813081.jpg

Here's a midrise project slated for the shopping centre opposite KFC.

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/0268/105870268ml1247813081.jpg

And you will be impressed to know that a new apartment tower is proposed for the waterfront right next to the hotel.

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/9005/105579005ml1247813081.jpg

^ The Entrance is such beautiful place to live! My father's side family lives down there and it always best place to go holidays after Byron Bay/Gold Coast.

Nah BSD, after the South Coast.

Milestone in Tuggerah Straight work
30/07/2009 1:00:00 PM
ANOTHER milestone in the upgrade of the Pacific Highway at Tuggerah has been reached with 600 metres of dual carriageway now open to traffic.
''The road was widened as part of the NSW Government’s $42 million upgrade of a section of the Pacific Highway known as the Tuggerah Straight," member for Wyong David Harris said this week.

“This new 600-metre section has four lanes and a wide central median to improve road safety.

“We are also working around the clock to complete the remaining sections of the project from Mildon Road to Johnson Road.

“These upgrades are not only supporting around 400 jobs in these difficult economic times, they’re also providing the road infrastructure we need for the future,” he said.

Mr Harris said the second stage of the Tuggerah Straight project included the installation of traffic lights at Johnson Road, bus lanes, pedestrian crossings, cycleways, parking spaces for local businesses and upgraded street lighting.

“The government has listened to our concerns and is committed to delivering these important upgrades as soon as possible.

“When complete, the upgrades will improve safety and traffic flow and are a huge win for local motorists, pedestrians, cyclists and businesses."

The full upgrade of the 1.8km stretch of Tuggerah Straight is expected to be complete by the end of this year, weather permitting, he said

http://www.coastingtoday.com.au/news/local/news/general/milestone-in-tuggerah-straight-work/1582640.aspx

Major contracts awarded
29/07/2009 9:24:00 AM
MAJOR contracts for the design and construction of bridges, and for rock stabilisation works were awarded by Gosford City Council last night.
Council accepted a tender from Civibuild Pty Ltd for the design and construction of Scotchman’s Creek, Cohen’s Creek and Unnamed Creek Bridges, on Wisemans Ferry Road.

The three bridges are part funded by the NSW Government Timber Bridge Partnership grant for the replacement of seven timber bridges on Wisemans Ferry Road.

Council funding comes from the Civic Infrastructure Strategy for which this is an approved project.

The project is valued at an estimated $2,043,000 and work is scheduled to start in August.

Council also accepted a tender from Rix Group Pty Ltd for rock face stabilisation at Mt Ettalong Road, South Umina.

Funding of $120,000 is available from the 2008/2009 Natural Disaster Mitigation Program to complete this work.

This project is also scheduled to start in August.

http://www.coastingtoday.com.au/news/local/news/general/major-contracts-awarded/1581112.aspx

great stuff. bout time with alot of those projects

Three-storey carpark not needed say West Gosford residents news
05 Aug 09 @ 06:07am by TERRY COLLINS

PLANS for a three-storey carpark at West Gosford shops could be the thin edge of the traffic wedge say nearby residents.

They are concerned approval of the carpark could pave the way for an unpopular proposal to widen and extend Henry Kendall St through Manooka Rd.

The Manooka Rd link plan is one of the options for the RTA’s controversial West Gosford interchange upgrade, which has had people in an uproar since it was first mooted early this year.

Residents said the carpark upgrade, which was to be considered at last night’s Gosford Council meeting, was unwarranted by the current volume of shopping at the small centre.

“The existing carpark is never more than 60 per cent full, even in peak shopping times,” resident Barry Cox said.

“Why they would need three more storeys I cannot imagine.

“It makes us think there is a hidden agenda.”

Mr Cox said residents were concerned about increased traffic encouraged by a larger carpark affecting safety, amenity and property values for residents.

But of more concern, he said, was the fact that clearing Henry Kendall St of parked cars would pave the way to widen it and extend it through wetlands to join Manooka Rd at Point Clare.

“Although we asked the RTA to take the Manooka Rd link off the table, it is still under consideration, although there are four other workable options under review,” Point Clare resident spokesman Keith Lavers said.

“These include the Grieves Cl option which would link the existing Manns Rd industrial area with West Gosford without the need to damage any residential areas or wetlands.”

RTA spokesman Mark Henderson said discussions had been held with Coles, along with a number of other stake-holders, regarding access issues for the various interchange options.

“We are still a long way short of final evaluation of options for the interchange with focus groups being organised to consider a short list of options.”

http://express-advocate-wyong.whereilive.com.au/news/story/three-storey-carpark-notneeded-say-residents/

YAY! West Gosford Shops Development APPROVED!
3-storey carpark and an additional 1010m2 of floor space. Various access improvements and refurbishment of buildings...

I dont think a three storey car park is needed there. I was there on wednesday and there were lots of empty parking spaces but i agree that more shops are needed

The developer had no choice because the amount of spaces is needed to be in ratio with the retail/office space..

its all happening at umina atm. the new woolies shell petrol station is progressing well. should take a pic. its fascinating watching how they construct the huge petrol tanks underground before they lay slab. i was told opening in october.
#hoarding has gone up for new woolies in west street. that will be great. cant wait.
#new aldi store about to start demolition in trafalgar ave.
#new maccas set to start next to new woolies petrol station in ocean beach rd soon.
#extention of bi low carpark currently underway.
its all good.

The developer had no choice because the amount of spaces is needed to be in ratio with the retail/office space..

facepalm

surely if the developer wanted to get out of providing more spaces they could undertake parking occupancy surveys and submit the results/analysis with their DA

it is ridiculous to think that any Council would force a developer to provide more parking than what is necessary

^maybe there building for the future? never have too much carparking

its all happening at umina atm. the new woolies shell petrol station is progressing well. should take a pic. its fascinating watching how they construct the huge petrol tanks underground before they lay slab. i was told opening in october.
#hoarding has gone up for new woolies in west street. that will be great. cant wait.
#new aldi store about to start demolition in trafalgar ave.
#new maccas set to start next to new woolies petrol station in ocean beach rd soon.
#extention of bi low carpark currently underway.
its all good.

so theres going to both a woolworths petrol and a maccas on the same site? how are they going to fit it all on there it looks like such a small site

In Gunghalin there is a Shell and a Hungary Jacks on the one site. The drvie-thru goes behind both stores. I'm guessing it would be similar in Umina.

Hungary Jacks: is that with extra paprika?

Wow, I am retarded.............. :(

G'day everyone. I now live in Eastern Suburbs but I still take a keen interest in Central Coast developments.

Found this at the Department of Planning:
http://majorprojects.planning.nsw.gov.au/index.pl?action=view_job&job_id=3073
It is the plans for the development of the Gateway site and Triangle site at Westfield Tuggerah.
20 storey buildings have been planned for the Triangle site and also rerouting Wyong Road and Old Pacific Highway.

I have found another development. apologies if this development has already been discussed. It is the Tesrol Ettalong Beach development. It covers the car park east of the Mantra resort. 218-220 Memorial Avenue , 47-50 The Esplanade , Ettalong Beach.
Says it's a 3 storey building but has an 8-storey tower in the middle! :) I'd like to see what happens now that it is at the Dept. Planning.
http://majorprojects.planning.nsw.gov.au/page/coastal-areas/tall-buildings/?action=view_job&job_id=3326

^hi, yes a i posted an article about 20storey bldgs at tuggerah a while back. couldnt believe it. but it makes sense.
The Tesrol project was lodged 5 years ago and hit a snag when eveyone thought ettalong was going to become a gold coast.it was 9storeys, same as mantra, right across the road.gosford fucked around with it for years and wanted limit of just 3 storeys??
then handed it over to state gov.which now any dev within 100m of shore on NSW coast is now state gov!
but planning minister said had to be lowered to 6storeys.back then.
lets hope it gets up soon. 3storey podium with 5storey section in centre should get through !
such a great posi looking south to lion island.
some stats
-cost of project=$40mil
construction jobs=269
full time=40.
area site= 3,158sqm
units=70
retail-627sqm
carspaces=156

cheers

Stupid excuse. Ettalong will never be anything like the Gold Coast. Nine storeys is squat. They will live.

Thanks for the find on Tuggerah as well. It has the advantage of being right on the F3 and in easy reach of most parts of the region. It must be noted that cows currently graze the land held by Westfield near the F3!!! I'd love to see some tallies built over Westfield itself. Lots of space there.

lots happening at Umina (from peninsula news)

Demolition work starts

Demolition has begun on the corner of West and Trafalgar Sts in Umina to make way for the construction of the new $11 million Woolworths supermarket.

The new supermarket featuring 118 onsite car parking spaces is due to be completed by mid next year.

Umina District Chamber of Commerce president Ms Sharon Martin said the new development would bring 150 full-time, part-time and casual employment positions to the area.
"Amended plans currently before Gosford Council show an attractive building which is tastefully and carefully designed to blend into the existing village facade, while at the same time delivering a refreshing clean and modern visual," Ms Martin said.

"Woolworths encourages the use of local trades where possible throughout the construction which is a welcome opportunity for local trades such as plumbing and electrical contractors, concrete and construction specialists as well as numerous other fixture and fit out contractors.

"Andrew Love, development manager with Woolworths Ltd, expressed an interest in having an open, informative and cooperative relationship with the Umina District Chamber of Commerce and the local community."

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Bi-lo supermarket is about to change name to coles.
The carpark is being extanded atm to 73 car spaces with new shade structures!
the 6 shops as part of bilo are being demolsihed to make way for expanding Coles.
Aldi to start soon.

mattyb-here are some pdf dumps from ettalong projects
should look great with the potential 6x 8storey blocks!
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2429/3854381921_c3ef46ac5d_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2590/3855170888_834cf4b868_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3469/3855170780_b39d081606_o.jpg

G'day everyone. I now live in Eastern Suburbs but I still take a keen interest in Central Coast developments.

Found this at the Department of Planning:
http://majorprojects.planning.nsw.gov.au/index.pl?action=view_job&job_id=3073
It is the plans for the development of the Gateway site and Triangle site at Westfield Tuggerah.
20 storey buildings have been planned for the Triangle site and also rerouting Wyong Road and Old Pacific Highway.

i can't see this eventuating at all - at best, wyong road would be built over but certainly not relocated like in those plans

flying back yesterday from coffs
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3480/3872478844_5591c6bbc2_o.jpg

more.
my home-umina
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2553/3872202949_4b42672df0_b.jpg

gosford
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2614/3872236151_e3fca999e3_b.jpg

great pics culwulla

i saw the new woolies petrol site at umina yesterday ( nearly complete) and no where is there any sign of a mcdonalds anywhere near it

lots happening at Umina (from peninsula news)
Man there's a lot happening in Umina:

- Aldi being built
- Woolies Petrol Plus servo being built
- Bilo changing its name to Coles

Sounds like a boom town :lol: :nuts:

^well it is after nothing for years.you forgot a large woolies store in west st, demo has started.
micheal-the 3 houses next to new servo is where maccas is going. demolistion will start soon.
also a large retirement village end of west is starting 2010. it consists of a 5storey bldg, 3x 3storeys bldgs.
so its not bad for luittle old umina

move over Ballina, here comes Umina. When will muffin break be opening? i would like to apply for store manager position

traffic lights?

hey its my home town. i like to post happenings.
crazyknight, why bother posting stupid shit all the time. instead of wasting posts on critisims why dont you contribute. something? im sure im not only one that opens up a thread and yet again another stupid useless fucking post??
this is what is bringing these forums down.

demo has started.
micheal-the 3 houses next to new servo is where maccas is going. demolistion will start soon.

thanks culwulla i did drive past those 3 houses but didnt even notice will have to pay more attention next time i am going past there

hey its my home town. i like to post happenings.
crazyknight, why bother posting stupid shit all the time. instead of wasting posts on critisims why dont you contribute. something? im sure im not only one that opens up a thread and yet again another stupid useless fucking post??
this is what is bringing these forums down.

I have to support Cul here on it. Some of you guys here come to this forum to put people down and contribute little material yourselves. Makes this forum a depressing place.

hey its my home town. i like to post happenings.
crazyknight, why bother posting stupid shit all the time. instead of wasting posts on critisims why dont you contribute. something? im sure im not only one that opens up a thread and yet again another stupid useless fucking post??
this is what is bringing these forums down.

if u want to see a big part of wat brought this forum down, i'd suggest looking in the mirror

hey its my home town. i like to post happenings.
crazyknight, why bother posting stupid shit all the time. instead of wasting posts on critisims why dont you contribute. something? im sure im not only one that opens up a thread and yet again another stupid useless fucking post??
this is what is bringing these forums down.

I don't think KFC is the problem with this forum.

Queue sidekick.

I have to support Cul here on it. Some of you guys here come to this forum to put people down and contribute little material yourselves. Makes this forum a depressing place.

Fabian for mod yall :ohno:

I don't blame Cul for posting updates on small things, its nowhere near as bad as BSD's traffic light and round a bout updates in the Far North Coast thread.

I guess there is nothing major really happening up in the Central Coast so these little developments keep that thread ticking over. I also imagine and new petrol station and ALDI opening is pretty big news for the area. At the end of the day it is still development, so in keeping with the website and forums. BSD traffic lights ... well I think it is funny, but I don't see any harm in it being posted, it is up to you whether you read that particular thread or not. Far North coast for me has no meaning and therefore I only look when bored.
As for Cul ... maybe a little over reaction? I understand that some people's post can be obscure, pointless whatever, but this is a forum open to the public so it comes with the territory and if you really dislike what has been posted as a Mod, remove it.
I think everyone needs a chill pill, GFC is getting to you all.

What was this thread about ....?

Cariad, the issues that I and others have with Culwulla include:

1. Hypocrisy; and
2. Using mod super powerzzz outside the scope of actual moderation - i.e. deleting posts based on a whim or personal opinion

I personally have no issue with the simpleton posting rubbish about petrol stations and Aldis as long as everyone can do it and not just because it is "my home town". If you were following the Newcastle thread you would understand how this all began (and eventually came to a head through the BSD issues, the Matthew Johns NRL incident and the skybar).

lol@Cariad suggesting cul delete what he dont like, thats part of the problem

That newcastle incident has really tarnished cul hasn't it BTW fabs i sure hope your next in line for mod since you just like to have their back all the time

...

Pretty sure I'm next in line for mod. Mostly because I'm cool.

Cariad, the issues that I and others have with Culwulla include:

1. Hypocrisy; and
2. Using mod super powerzzz outside the scope of actual moderation - i.e. deleting posts based on a whim or personal opinion

I personally have no issue with the simpleton posting rubbish about petrol stations and Aldis as long as everyone can do it and not just because it is "my home town". If you were following the Newcastle thread you would understand how this all began (and eventually came to a head through the BSD issues, the Matthew Johns NRL incident and the skybar).
what ever mr crazyman. all of that crap was months ago, im have nothing to do with deleting posts. i keep low profile because of alot of silly young idiots on these forums who seem to post only negative posts, keep argueing about minor matters or dont contribute anything
hmm???

.. nvm edit

hey more local stuff. Peninsula news
the Umina chamber of commerce sure do have faith in future of umina
A 4mil superplayground is abot to start near surf club. it will feature a $400,000 spiderweb

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2497/3895746073_6f1382e368_o.jpg

the 1970s umina mall is finally going to be demolished to make way for new development! wohoh!!
this place is such a dump.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2557/3895747409_021212b929_o.jpg

^ I wonder if the bakery will be a Muffin Break???

omg a playground

^yeah aim to be one of best in state .
remember guys no spamming

omg a playground

Behave! (sorry for the spam)

can't a bloke get a chubby over a new playground without everyone hating on him?

whats happening in your suburb crazyknightfan?

You mean Newcastle?? more than Umina i can say at least, Cul you even said talk about major developements in our Newcastle thread, and here you are talking about a new playground :ohno:

I for one think its a good idea about the redevlopment of umina mall its looking rather sad these days i only hope they extend it to the vacant blocks of land beside and behind it that way they could put a decent sized supermarket in there I also like the name of the new plaze - Lone Pine plaza

whats happening in your suburb crazyknightfan?

nothing relevant to a skyscraper forum

maybe if it was a playground forum then i could make posts as awesome as yours

^umina is a small suburb. no skyscrapers. tallest will be 5storeys come next year.
there are skyscraper threads. this thread is like parra thread or wgong thread. basically everything from new roads/train lines/ shopping centres everything is covered.so its ok to talk about new $4mil recreational park.its a good thing.yes?
theres plenty of shit talk about nothing in skybar.
I for one think its a good idea about the redevlopment of umina mall its looking rather sad these days i only hope they extend it to the vacant blocks of land beside and behind it that way they could put a decent sized supermarket in there I also like the name of the new plaze - Lone Pine plaza
yes the park to the south and carpark west of it IS part of the site which is being developed. so its a descent size development.

^ i thought we weren't allowed to talk transport, even TOD related, in the construction forums...

^umina is a small suburb. no skyscrapers. tallest will be 5storeys come next year.
there are skyscraper threads. this thread is like parra thread or wgong thread. basically everything from new roads/train lines/ shopping centres everything is covered.so its ok to talk about new $4mil recreational park.its a good thing.yes?
theres plenty of shit talk about nothing in skybar.

how to fuck up a thread. post shopping or transport.
hows the highrise devlopement going? fsake

im trying to remember when i saw a post on new highrise or construction updates? come on guys. this is a skyscrapercity forum!
why dont create a transport thread if you want to ramble on about that.

Good to see you've changed your tune...

I believe that it is sometime inevitable that some threads will go slighty off topic and some developments warrant further discussion into transport, parks, playgrounds or bloomin weather. If you then try to discuss the same topic in it's relevnat thread I think the discussion/passion gets lost. I don't like to over sanitise each thread and keep them purely for transport for example, of course there is a limit.

and on the last note I think Cul and CKF both need your heads banging together, really guys bury the hatchet and move on, you are both adults, agree to disagree.

^i m the one posting info and photos/articles which is contributing this damn forum, not nitfriggen picking about what can be and cant be posted .
sorry guys but my posts arent off topic. i post happenings in suburbs on the central coast. what more to you want???????????????????????????
deal with whats put in the local threads or dont open the thread ffs! simple

Good to see you've changed your tune...

Culwulla fail KFC win

what the fuck are you doing cell phone?
this is the spam i was talking about.
no more guys or you will regret it.
warning 1.

^i m the one posting info and photos/articles which is contributing this damn forum, not nitfriggen picking about what can be and cant be posted .
sorry guys but my posts arent off topic. i post happenings in suburbs on the central coast. what more to you want???????????????????????????
deal with whats put in the local threads or dont open the thread ffs! simple

one minute you tell off other posters for posting about projects that aren't skyscrapers and the next minute you're posting stories about supermarkets and playgrounds.

there is not one rule for the mods and one rule for everyone else - i'd like you to obey your own instructions (i.e. deal with whats here or dont open thread).

^what are you taling about? anyone can chat about anything IN RELEVANT THREADS!
I recommend you stop spamming. asap./

^umina is a small suburb. no skyscrapers. tallest will be 5storeys come next year.
there are skyscraper threads. this thread is like parra thread or wgong thread. basically everything from new roads/train lines/ shopping centres everything is covered.so its ok to talk about new $4mil recreational park.its a good thing.yes?
theres plenty of shit talk about nothing in skybar.
Umm, what?

Parramatta and Wollongong both have threads as they are major centres of state significance with developments happening. Is Umina in the same category as those two?

Or have we decided we need to discuss it, but nothing of significance is happening, so let's discuss this stuff.

Now please excuse me Cul while I run off and make a Quakers Hill or maybe a Menai thread - apparently Dominos Pizza is getting a refurb and Woolies Petrol Plus is getting a refurb + rebrand to Caltex? :yes:

^anything planned for quakers hill can go in penrith thread.
you fail to understand concept of threads.
The central coast thread covers a Biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig area.from pearl beach to wyong.
so yes anything happening in Umina will be posted in it. especially now that chamber of commerce have chosen it to be new commercial hub of the peninsula.
so anyway end of story.
lets get back to posting worthy stuff not chatting about shit.it ruins threads.

^^ But Quakers Hill is 20+ km from Penrith? And will say the CC is a big area - so why not maintain this level of coverage for all of it? Why not cover Tuggerah's renovated Bunnings? Umina shouldn't be the only place that supposedly justifies this level of attention.

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Back on topic, what stores are opening up @ Deepwater Plaza?

^i post most happenings in the CC. i get 4 local papers every week.
maybe penrith thread should be renamed? outer western sydney? or somehting.
i like posting things on umina because i live there .der..
what you mean stores opening up at deepwater?

didnt realise it started at umina, then gosford and finally somersby
http://express-advocate-gosford.whereilive.com.au/news/story/australian-reptile-park-plans-its-birthday-bash/

http://images.whereilive.com.au/images/uploads/2009/09/28/8371dff08b4c822bf7a96ca17691e8a0_resized.jpg
The late Eric Worrell and Ploddy at Gosford.


Australian Reptile Park plans its birthday bash

PLODDY will be wearing his party hat for the next six months as the Australian Reptile Park at Somersby celebrates its 60th birthday.

The celebrations start tomorrow and will finish on April 30, 2010.

The park is an icon on the Central Coast and was founded by one of Australia’s first naturalists, Eric Worrell.

The park started it’s life as Umina Beach Aquarium in 1949 before moving to Gosford in 1959.

Four years after that Ploddy was created.

The dinosaur weighs 40 tonnes, and is 30 metres long.

In 1989 Eric the crocodile joined the park and wowed crowds until his death in 2007.

The park moved to Somersby in 1996 and nine years ago its main building was destroyed by a fire.

Rising from the ashes the park launched two themed exhibits, Lost World of Reptiles and Spider World.

The park is known around the world and has a long and rich history on the coast.

As well as keeping the crowds entertained the park has also assisted in saving 15,000 lives with the nation’s antivenene program.

Throughout the October holiday celebrations visitors to the park will have the opportunity to devour delicious Ploddy birthday cake and children can have their faces painted for free.

Visitors can rock around the croc enclosure of Elvis, the biggest crocodile in NSW.

didnt realise it started at umina, then gosford and finally somersby
http://express-advocate-gosford.whereilive.com.au/news/story/australian-reptile-park-plans-its-birthday-bash/

http://images.whereilive.com.au/images/uploads/2009/09/28/8371dff08b4c822bf7a96ca17691e8a0_resized.jpg
The late Eric Worrell and Ploddy at Gosford.


Australian Reptile Park plans its birthday bash

PLODDY will be wearing his party hat for the next six months as the Australian Reptile Park at Somersby celebrates its 60th birthday.

The celebrations start tomorrow and will finish on April 30, 2010.

The park is an icon on the Central Coast and was founded by one of Australia’s first naturalists, Eric Worrell.

The park started it’s life as Umina Beach Aquarium in 1949 before moving to Gosford in 1959.

Four years after that Ploddy was created.

The dinosaur weighs 40 tonnes, and is 30 metres long.

In 1989 Eric the crocodile joined the park and wowed crowds until his death in 2007.

The park moved to Somersby in 1996 and nine years ago its main building was destroyed by a fire.

Rising from the ashes the park launched two themed exhibits, Lost World of Reptiles and Spider World.

The park is known around the world and has a long and rich history on the coast.

As well as keeping the crowds entertained the park has also assisted in saving 15,000 lives with the nation’s antivenene program.

Throughout the October holiday celebrations visitors to the park will have the opportunity to devour delicious Ploddy birthday cake and children can have their faces painted for free.

Visitors can rock around the croc enclosure of Elvis, the biggest crocodile in NSW.

It was at Wyoming not Gosford. Right where the BP service station is now.

well actually techinally its where Aldis and those houses that are behind it are now I remember the BP was always next door to it
one of the streets in the little housing estate is named Worrell Circuit and there is a also a worrell Park

well actually techinally its where Aldis and those houses that are behind it are now I remember the BP was always next door to it
one of the streets in the little housing estate is named Worrell Circuit and there is a also a worrell Park

Yeah it was turned into a housing estate, possibly ploddy sat where aldi is now but regardless it was still in Wyoming and not North Gosford.

i loved that park another park i liked was old sydney town what eva happend to it is it still there

it closed because even the mandatory primary school visits didn't give it enough revenue to stay alive

I never knew Eric the Crocodile died... :( That sucks ass.

i visit the reptile park regulary because its only 20mins away. kids love it.

.
he died june 30 froma organ infection brought on by the storms. staff couldnt treat him.
eric was 5.6m long abnd 700kgs-largest croc in NSW
Hes successor is Elvis who arrived in sept/07 who is also an enormous cranky pants,

heres a pic i took on feb17/07 of big eric.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/180/394555334_92de05e5e5_b.jpg

Eric was cool though. Is this one anywhere near as big?

pics of Gosford town centre in this thread
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=983860

Eric was cool though. Is this one anywhere near as big?
he is largest captive in NSW. 4.8m and 720kgs.
elvis is heavier then eric but little shorter.

new woolworths site well underway in west st, umina.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2491/4069235829_9e0ae77a2d_b.jpg

fantastic new shades at coles carpark.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2553/4069954754_7ac8e108a8_b.jpg

more news

New plans for commuter carpark

Construction of commuter carparking might be started in Woy Woy as soon as February next year by building extra levels on the Deepwater Plaza carpark, adjacent to the existing commuter carpark.

Plans to build on top of the existing commuter carpark approved by Gosford Council in September last year seem to have been shelved due to "time constraints and construction difficulties".

The new plan would see the existing single-deck carpark demolished and replaced with a four-deck structure.

The construction would take 13 months, during which time the bottom three levels of the commuter carpark would be devoted to shopper use, while a temporary commuter carpark would be provided adjacent to Woy Woy oval.

Gosford Council's manager of engineering services Mr John Cragg said that, following a meeting between Gosford councillors and the Transport Infrastructure Development Corporation (TIDC) on October 20, it was revealed that a new proposal was being considered due to "time restraints and construction difficulties".

Council originally endorsed a proposal that involved expanding the carpark by 292 spaces by adding additional decks to the existing structure.

The new plan proposed by TIDC involves the construction of a carpark by exercising airspace rights held by council above the adjacent Deepwater Plaza car park.

Gosford councillors will meet on November 3, and are expected to support the recommendations put forward by Mr Cragg including council endorse the new plans by way of exercising airspace rights over Deepwater Plaza land providing the TIDC deliver a minimum net increase of 292 car parking spaces to Woy Woy.

Mr Cragg has also recommended to councillors that the general manager be delegated to execute a Heads of Agreement document between council and TIDC for construction and operation of the multi-storey commuter carpark, and to ensure TIDC adequately complies with the provisions of the Infrastructure SEPP and Part Five of the Environmental Planning and Assessment Act, 1979.

According to a report prepared by council staff, the TIDC does not propose to lodge a development application for the carpark expansion project "as it has powers under the provisions of the new Infrastructure SEPP to progress developments to construction without development consent from the local council".

Based on investigations that found the original proposal was not feasible, the TIDC subsequently explored alternative locations within the Woy Woy CBD area as a site for a multi-deck commuter carpark, identifying Woy Woy Oval Carpark and Deepwater Plaza Carpark as potential locations.

"In negotiations with the TIDC, council officers strongly opposed the Woy Woy Oval proposal due traffic flow concerns and adverse town planning impacts associated with the Peninsula Urban Development Strategy," a council report stated.

"However, council officers encouraged further investigation of options utilising the council airspace rights above the existing single deck Deepwater Plaza Carpark.

"The TIDC subsequently prepared concept plans and entered into negotiations with council officers and the owners of Deepwater Plaza on a proposal to concurrently develop the Deepwater Plaza Carpark and the council airspace above.

"A key aspect to this proposal was demolishing the entire Deepwater Plaza single-deck carpark and replacing it with a multi-deck carpark structure of sufficient strength and standard to accommodate future commercial shops on the ground level.

"This proposal would have required Deepwater Plaza to contribute towards the additional strengthening works.

"Deepwater Plaza subsequently withdrew from these negotiations in October 2009 advising that they were not currently in a position to be involved in the TIDC carpark expansion proposal."

he is largest captive in NSW. 4.8m and 720kgs.
elvis is heavier then eric but little shorter.

I just found these pics , taken in 2002, had to scan them ( before I went digital) so quality poor.....

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc242/woody43/2009%20pics/ERICtheCroc-1.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc242/woody43/2009%20pics/ErictheCroc-2.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc242/woody43/2009%20pics/ErictheCroc-3.jpg

another article regarding woy woy car park proposal


Woy Woy car park proposal endorsed
04 Nov, 2009 09:45 AM
GOSFORD City Council last night endorsed a proposal to expand the Woy Woy commuter car park.

The proposal from the Transport Infrastructure and Development Corporation (TIDC) was to expand the Woy Woy commuter car park by way of exercising council airspace rights over the existing Deepwater Plaza car park at Woy Woy.

The TIDC will design and oversee the construction of a minimum increase of 292 commuter parking spaces, in compliance with provisions of the Infrastructure State

Environmental Planning Policy (SEPP) and Part 5 of the Environmental Planning and Assessment Act.

The project will be funded by the NSW Government.

http://www.coastingtoday.com.au/news/local/news/general/woy-woy-car-park-proposal-endorsed/1667667.aspx

Premier visits $4.5m Tuggerah interchange
10 Nov, 2009 09:49 AM
NSW Premier and Minister for the Central Coast Nathan Rees has visited the new $4.5 million Tuggerah Bus Interchange and Commuter Car Park.

The facility had its first day of operation yesterday.

“The lion’s share of the work here at Tuggerah is now complete, and buses will start using the new interchange as of Monday,” Mr Rees said.

“As work continues, more commuter car spaces are opening up in the car park, where work will be completed by the end of the year, creating 100 additional spaces.

“The new interchange includes a bus loop, three new bus bays, a covered walkway, a dedicated taxi rank, a new waiting area and bicycle parking – all of which help make the facility safer and more comfortable for commuters.

“The expanded car park is part of the NSW Government’s commitment to create an additional 7000 parking spaces at rail stations across Sydney, the Blue Mountains, the Illawarra, and here on the Central Coast.

“Other commuter car parking projects on the Central Coast include:

• an additional 50 spaces at Morisset, with construction under way;

• about 50 additional spaces at Ourimbah with construction expected to start later this year;

• up to 300 spaces at Woy Woy with construction expected to start early next year; and

• a new 200-space car park at Wyong, which David Harris, the Parliamentary Secretary for the Central Coast, recently announced a community consultation process for.

“The Government is aware that transport is a critical issue for families here on the Central Coast, which is why we announced at the recent State Plan report-back session that we would prepare a Transport Strategy for the Central Coast next year,” Mr Rees said.

Parliamentary Secretary for the Central Coast, David Harris, said that commuter car parks were an important part of making public transport easier to use for local residents.

“Around 2500 people will use the interchange here at Tuggerah every day, and secure car parking or connections with bus services close at hand makes getting to work that much easier.”

While on the Central Coast, the Premier also joined around 200 local employees to celebrate the 25th year of operation in Australia of ADC KRONE, a market leader in the design and manufacture of cabling for communication technology.

http://www.coastingtoday.com.au/news/local/news/general/premier-visits-45m-tuggerah-interchange/1673031.aspx

Mardi Dam works to shore up our supplies
12 Nov, 2009 09:18 AM
A $59 million upgrade at Mardi Dam is on track for completion, Wyong and Gosford councils said today.

The upgrade will secure the Central Coast water supply and enable more water to be transferred between the Gosford and Wyong systems.

The works include the construction of a new intake tower, two pump stations and new pipelines. Extensive earthwork foundations and concreting works are now under way.

Gosford City Council’s director of water and sewer Rod Williams said the Mardi Dam works would further secure the region’s water supply system, which has undergone some major changes in the past four years.

“The Central Coast water supply system underwent some major improvements during the drought which has left us with a greater capacity to supply water to the community,” Mr Williams said.

“In addition to our traditional supplies from our rivers and dams, we can now supply nine million litres of drinking quality water a day through from groundwater bores and 35 million litres a day through the Hunter connection, which is around 62 per cent of our daily water usage.

“Add to that upgrades to our pumping infrastructure which allows us to pump more water during high flows into our storage dams and you can see the system is very different now.

“We also have a much lower demand than previously, with thousands of rainwater tanks and water smart residents keeping our usage levels low and recycled water and stormwater replacing town water where appropriate.

“While current total storage levels are hovering around 30 per cent, this is a much more secure 30 per cent than back in 2004.”

Wyong Shire Council’s director of shire services Paul Wise said the Mardi Dam upgrade had been timed to coincide with the natural drop in dam levels.

“To construct the new intake tower, which is an essential part of these works, we must excavate a large hole beside the existing dam,” Mr Wise said.

“When the tower is complete, we will remove the remaining rock between to connect the tower to the dam.

“Timing is probably the most important consideration for this particular project because in order for these works to occur, the water levels in the dam need to drop to a safe level to allow access for our contractors.

“That’s why we scheduled the project for this summer - so we can follow the natural drop in the water level and have the least negative impact on our overall water storage.”

The Mardi Dam intake tower is due to be completed by next winter, after which the dam can be refilled from Wyong River stream flows.

http://www.coastingtoday.com.au/news/local/news/environment/mardi-dam-works-to-shore-up-our-supplies/1675332.aspx

I don't mind the commuter parking at those locations - next step is closing Koolewong, Tascott, Point Clare, Narara, Niagara Park and Lisarow stations!

Noticed today the basement has been dug out for the new Woolworths store in Wes Street, Umina. Construction on site is happening rapidly.

^see post 1147. i took a few weeks back. yeas its going great. illtry to take another this week.

renders of massive new woywoy carpark extention
looks good
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2692/4133862665_007fcbba13_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2780/4133862449_f204c08398_o.jpg

are they going to do something with that mound of grass that is on the corner of railway and george sts? i think they should put some more shops on there I remember when it used to be a petrol station (cant remember which brand it was though)

thats prime realestate ready for developing. cant beleive still vacant?
ive envisaged a ground floor retail over whole site topped with highrise units maybe 8 floors high. top location. they would sell out . close to everything and views across the bay.
google pic
bottom right cnr . as you can see what a site. same goes for next door.
site meausres 30mx 30m or 900sqm.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2706/4135216866_531e46e60c_o.jpg

Yep, why can't Woy station cop a tall on top? Not like railway land is needed for much these days except passenger trains, most of which stop.

Hmm interesting carpark but what is with that fake green colour for F sake make it blue or something.

hamlet of Hawkesbury River station.passing yesterday on train.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2730/4136475021_8eeb390f0d_o.jpg

woolies site update
seriously large hole
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2522/4137487050_884c5e8eea_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2626/4137488146_4aaf4b3296_o.jpg

whats the latest with aldi? havent seen anything happening on the site at all lately

seriously large hole

Thats what she said.

Thats what she said.

Who, your mum?

SNAP

guys1 dont fuckup with spam on this thread please!
micheal-Aldi is set to start early 2010 and will open later that year!

umina had big open day on sunday with focus on new 4mil$ peninsula park
fantastic new web climb
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2678/4142074373_0dca90a352_o.jpg

new cafe/art gallery building
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2620/4142826472_74d465dbeb_o.jpg

plan of park
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2737/4142068851_4133261dcd_b.jpg

thanks culwulla

wheres this new park going in?

located between umina ovals and surf club
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2544/4145394481_72ab14527a_b.jpg

whats with the roundabout near the carpark

^wot u mean? the buses turn there for the school.and cars ect.

^wot u mean? the buses turn there for the school.and cars ect.

it aint an intersection so its used for u turns

i'm sure where the new park is going that used to be part of the caravan park years ago

im not sure, but caravan park is just southwest of diagram. very popular all year round.

there used to be small building that may have been some sort of gatehouse on the corner where the road goes down to the caravan park from the beach car park (on the photo it wouldve been right where the label 'umina slsc' is)

the building on the right is what i was refering to, as you can see the caravan park mustve come all the way up to the beach car park
this pic was taken in 1970

http://i47.tinypic.com/bitafn.jpg

Prep to start on town hub
17 Dec, 2009 01:00 AM
PREPARATION work for the long-awaited Warnervale town centre is set to begin early in the new year, State Member for Wyong David Harris said on Tuesday.

At a meeting hosted by the State Government on Friday, Landcom, Woolworths and Wyong Shire Council agreed to jointly fund surveying, design and costing of a link road for the town centre, to be located off Sparks Road along the railway line.

"Preparation work on the Warnervale town centre is set to commence early in the new year," Mr Harris said.

"This work will fast-track access onto the site and open it up for development. Surveyors will peg out the proposed access road and allow Woolworths and Landcom to gain access to their sites."

Wyong Shire Council has agreed to have water and sewerage in place to meet the timelines of the developers.

Woolworths plans to submit a supermarket development application next year, while Landcom will apply to build some 60 residential lots.

Councillor Greg Best said the news was a step forward but predicted residents still faced a two-year wait for the centre and supermarket.

http://www.lakesmail.com.au/news/local/news/general/prep-to-start-on-town-hub/1707539.aspx

Why is it a requirement that the supermarket be a Woolworths or Coles. Cmon Franklins, IGA, Foodworks & Aldi. Show the giants what you have got.

Anybody else heard the latest rumour going around that the Caltex in Woy Woy are swapping out their Coke fridges for Pepsi ones? Cul hopefully you can get some coverage and pics of this?

Did anybody from here go to this?

http://www.peninsulanews.info/2009/0907/default.aspx?item=Petrol

I think the big questions about this development are:
- will Coke or Pepsi provide the fridges and drinks? We've all heard about Caltex at Woy Woy switching over so it'd be nice to have certainty about if Fanta or Sunkist is the preferred orange drink of the lower CC.
- will the proposed 1-level height of the servo building be too tall and will it destroy the neighbourhood like Lewisham Towers esp with it's "mega mall" convenience mart
- what kind of ambience and addition to the urban fabric will Woolworths Plus Petrol bring?

It should be open now actually.. why isn't there a photospam thread of it already!?

:? :ohno: :yes:

yourve lost me L2?

umina woolies update
ground fl slab being done over at west st frontage
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2741/4255378595_be5bbb3524_o.jpg

Hmm big changes for umina then. It's been months since i have been there. Probably head out to Patonga a couple of times a year but haven't been recently.

^its actually buzzing this time of year. the OB caravan park is full with holiday makers and there are a few projects starting up this year.
patonga is such a gem.great place. keep it quiet

Why is it a requirement that the supermarket be a Woolworths or Coles. Cmon Franklins, IGA, Foodworks & Aldi. Show the giants what you have got.

Because Woolworths has been lobbying the state government for a long time to ensure this particular site was where the Warnervale Town Centre would be built.

umina woolies update
ground fl slab being done over at west st frontage
Wow, a Woolies. I wonder how many suburbs & towns in Australia actually have one of these, oh Umina must be the only one so we need lots of coverage, so unusual! :nuts:

Looks like a very big sandpit in the photo.

^dont be a fuckwit. this is the central coast thread and umina is a town in this area of central coast.only a few buildings are uc on the peninsula and this is one of them.
and no its not a sandpit. its the basement excavation for the basement level.
post something positive not negative.:ohno:

^^ It would be nice if the CC thread didn't end up like the Ballina/Far North Coast threads - which is the way it's going.

Agree L2. I come to the SSC forum to see tall buildings, not carparks.

Even the transport forums serve to boost discussion on how to get large numbers of people in and out of large cities, characterised by tall buildings.

Umina is not a district centre, has only residual public transport, what's there to talk about?

Let's not end up with the Ballina-on-Brisbane-Water thread.

if you guys dont like it dont come here just go to another thread that has lots of nice shots of tall buildings for you to drool over - lol

meanwhile heres some photos i took this morning up at rumbalara reserve at Gosford using my new camera I got for Xmas

http://i49.tinypic.com/30w1sar.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/jqhqhi.jpg
http://i50.tinypic.com/2wm2afb.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/11jrssl.jpg

Agree L2. I come to the SSC forum to see tall buildings, not carparks.

Even the transport forums serve to boost discussion on how to get large numbers of people in and out of large cities, characterised by tall buildings.

Umina is not a district centre, has only residual public transport, what's there to talk about?

Let's not end up with the Ballina-on-Brisbane-Water thread.

Like michael19701 said. If want tall buildings then why visit this thread and why even post? :nuts::nuts:

You and L2 need to get a life.

^^ Where did me or Eco-rat say anything about tall buildings? I'm sure there's the odd thing to discuss on the Central Coast... sorry but Woolworths and servos are not part of that.

On another note - I noticed the photo from this story
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/bored-and-isolated-teenagers-run-wild/2007/06/04/1180809430235.html

made it into the 'Photos of the decade' slideshow amongst the Iraq War, 9/11 bombings and Sydney Olympics - yay for Central Coast!!!111
http://www.theage.com.au/multimedia/world/the-photos-of-the-decade/20091229-li3s.html

:banana:

L2 who is happy to see the CC get publicity amongst major events in the world

L2 i think you should read eco-rats post lol!!

^^ I did read it - yes he did mention tall buildings but not in that sense. I think we're both happy to see genuine development news of which tall buildings, town centre planning etc would be part of it. Unfortunately a new Woolies in some random residential area is not part of that.

I would much rather pictures of the new pepsi fridges anyday

thanks micheal. finally something to view. gosford is very photogenic.
these threads are for anything uc or planned. places like central coast and north coast dont always get tall bldgs especially when height limit is 6storeys.
Theres plenty of other threads to spam in.
have a better one. ;-)

thanks culwulla glad you liked them I cant believe how well the photos turned out!!!! i am going to try and get around to a few other lookouts and try and get some more shots like that

only a few buildings [/U]are uc on the peninsula and this is one of them.

And that speaks volumes! Obviously the CC is undergoing a disguised recession. Missing out on growth and development. Why is that?

^its actually on verge of a mini boom.
Gosford is about to start some of the projects which are part of the new state gov masterplan. i think the marina is first up this year.
other projects like spurbest site (15st) mixed dev and cultural /arts centre.
West gosford has always bldgs uC. atm a 4storey office complex is UC. nice big glass buiding.
In ettalong, the sydney firm-tesrol are seeking approval for an 8storey project adjacent to mantra.that should kick things along in ettalong.
in umina,maccas are building new store on OB road late 2010,
Aldi are building new store in trafalgar ave late 2010.
the large senior livig complex on morris/west st is also set to start. this consist of a 5storey building, 2x3st and 1x2st buildings.
the new Umina mall on cnr OB road and lone pine ave is before council. this will consist of a new retail complex to replace current rundown building, a new medical centre and an IGA store on posieres st.

The massive commuter car park at woy woy is getting 4storeys/300car spaces added and refurbed.
So there are lots happening on the coast, it has a great future.

micheal-for a great view of gosford from the south, get to cnr of brisbane water drv and penang street. its high up and you can see whole of skyline. spectatular
another of course is from 220m high staples lookout on old woy woy rd.
also checkout the lookout at Blackwall reserve at Umina. Its 113m high and overlooks ettalong and umina and see all the way to palm beach!
got to blackwall rd and turn up oak street. then park at fire trail and follow track to lookout,only 10mins walk. one of the great lookouts!
another at umina is further south at mt ettalong rd.drive off patonga dr at water tank. walk 10mins and you get to lookout some 75m above ocean. spectacular views over umina beach and broken bay!

^ well we might actually start to see some interesting stuff in this thread then if that is the case.

thanks for those suggestions culwulla I didnt know about the penang st one will have to check that one out also I actually live 2 streets away from blackwall mountain so i really dont have any excuse not to get up there!!!! you used to be able to get up there from the memorial avenue side but this is now overgrown with trees

the new Umina mall on cnr OB road and lone pine ave is before council. this will consist of a new retail complex to replace current rundown building, a new medical centre and an IGA store on posieres st.

I have read somewhere (either in the local paper or online via the peninsula news site) that council has rejected this redevelopment not sure why, but something has to be done with this eyesore

here i is the article about the umina mall redevelopment getting knocked back - it was the peninsula news online but unfortunely the website is down at the moment but i will post the link here anyhow for when the site becomes available again -

http://www.peninsulanews.info/2009/1214/default.aspx?item=Refusal

Thanks for the photos Michael, that's a view of Gosford I haven't seen before.

Rumbalara needs a space needle/tower overlooking town.

in umina,maccas are building new store on OB road late 2010,
Wow, a Maccas!? No, really, a Maccas and not a HJ or a KFC? I don't think there's many of these in NSW let alone on Earth!! Get your cameras out people!! :yes:

The massive commuter car park at woy woy is getting 4storeys/300car spaces added and refurbed.
THIS is exactly the kind of development we support & love.

but i will post the link here anyhow for when the site becomes available again -

http://www.peninsulanews.info/2009/1214/default.aspx?item=Refusal
Try http://74.125.153.132/search?q=cache:Uwnji6tqBSkJ:www.peninsulanews.info/2009/1214/default.aspx%3Fitem%3DRefusal+www.peninsulanews.info/2009/1214/default.aspx%3Fitem%3DRefusal&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au&client=firefox-a

thanks for the updated link L2

this was from part of the peninsula times article: "The council's determination stated that the proposal contained a "supermarket-sized general store" and was inappropriately located adjacent to a neighbourhood retail centre."

I'm confused with this - werent they going to tear the whole lot down and totally rebuild not just put in a new building adjacent to the existing one???

^i knew it was knocked back by council. i read in pen news. there are a few issues the planners have with carparking and how large the IGA will be. so they are now with planners working it out for an adjusted DA. things will eventually workout. the council actuually behind this project because they know how important it is for the area and being the gateway to umina. atm its not a good look.
Just on the new lone pine mall. ive seen plans this is whats happening...

stage 1-demolish 4 houses along poziers st and build temp carpark.use current carpark as site office)
stage2-erect new retail mall complex on cnr pozieres and ocean beach road (current vacant overgrown bushes block).-
stage3-after new mall is completed, transfer all businesss into new complex and demolish existing mall and replace with new carkpark.
stage 4-build new medical centre (with newsagent and chemist) on old carpark site on lone pine ave, this will also involved demolition of another house.
stage5-build new IGA on temp carpark site on pozieres street.
So as you can gather its not just building another mall.its a massive site and will consist of 3 major buildings.

L2-are you an idiot? dont bother posting garb . its not warranted.
keep away if your going to start trouble. a new mcdonalds in small town like Umina will be good for the locals and create employment. there is only 1 on the peninsula atm (woy woy) so it is a big fuckin deal.

choko-ive suggested this with council on the latest feedback about new town pla. the 150m high mountain is crying out for a canberra type tower.would really suit location and give gosford a landmark ect.

thanks for clearing that up culwulla it should look good when its completed I drove past there today and it does look very sad indeed especially with all those vacant blocks surrounding it been like that for years!!!! i do remember a plant nursery being on the vacant block on the corner of pozieries and ocean beach road but that was years ago also i am sick of playing 'dodge the pothole' everytime i go there!!! - is there any other shops going in besides the supermarket, chemist, newsagent and medical centre?

re mcdonalds: as much as I like Mcdonalds I have said this before I think we dont need another Mcdonalds one is enough we need a hungry jacks

L2-are you an idiot? dont bother posting garb . its not warranted.
keep away if your going to start trouble. a new mcdonalds in small town like Umina will be good for the locals and create employment. there is only 1 on the peninsula atm (woy woy) so it is a big fuckin deal.


Eco-rat puts on Yorkshire accent and renders it thus:

"It may have only been a McDonalds, but it was a Skyscraper to ooss" :lol:

looks like Aldi is going to open a store in gosfords imperial Centre sometime this year and I noticed gosford town centre/marketplace/marketown whatever its called these days is looking very run down there are empty shops one after the other - another revamp thats failed miserably the coles store in there has more staff than customers
I once heard a suggestion that the council buy it and turn it into a car park seems like the only thing left for it!!!

Maybe if it actually had a decent puller store that might help.

Council were once considering moving their offices there. It could be a good space for offices or and expanded library and community facilities.

Nothing is going to make Gosford city centre work until loads of resi is built so as to cause a snowball effect once the place becomes "cool".

Council were once considering moving their offices there. It could be a good space for offices or and expanded library and community facilities.

I think that might be a good idea

I keep wondering why the imperial centre always does very well but the town centre keeps failing - is it the location maybe?

Imperial center is far older for a start and has a much higher resonance with locals. The location is 1000% better, being on the Mann St, and its close to library, centerlink, the station and has two bus major bus stopping areas close by and has better shops. It's a combination of loads of things but top of the list is location.

I remember when marketown first opened in 1979 it did very well for quite a number of years it had waltons and shoeys (later Bi Lo) and a few shops from sydney that were opening their first central coast stores then once waltons disappeared thats when the decline started to set in

So what is Gosford's real problem? Campbelltown with water views? I never got why this place isn't thriving. I know a lot of other Coast stuff happens elsewhere but it's not like there isn't enough people in Gosford. Have the Council rejected too much stuff?

I gather the opening of Erina Fair and Westfield Tuggerah would be a major contributing factor of Gosford's demise over the years.

But what do the Coasters who want more from life than mall-crawling do?

Is there a night-time scene that doesn't involve RSLs/Leagues Clubs, or specialty shops that you won't find at Westfield? You know, like what the Sydney CBD does?

I gather the opening of Erina Fair and Westfield Tuggerah would be a major contributing factor of Gosford's demise over the years.

yeah it was

Is there a night-time scene that doesn't involve RSLs/Leagues Clubs, or specialty shops that you won't find at Westfield? You know, like what the Sydney CBD does?

basically no

not so good news from peninsula news:bash:
if they restrict heights to 3storeys on the peninsula it will stuff up the future
we need to go to atleast 6floors at umina and woy and 8floors at ettalong.
no devloper will want to build 3floors?? no views.
Peninsula may lose under strategy, says chamber

The Peninsula is likely to lose out under the State Government's Central Coast Economic Development and Employment Strategy, according to the Peninsula Chamber of Commerce.

The strategy "will mean nothing" unless Gosford Council's Draft Local Environment Plan allows adequate provision for the "orderly development" of the Peninsula's main town centres, chamber president Mr Matthew Wales said.

"With a growing population, including another 8000 people on the Peninsula, job creation is vital to stem the daily flow of workers into Sydney which places pressure on our car parks in Woy Woy and strains capacity on the rail link and F3 Freeway," Mr Wales said.

"However, all this will mean nothing unless Gosford Council's Draft Local Environmental Plan makes adequate provision for the orderly development of our town centres in Woy Woy, Ettalong Beach and Umina Beach.

"The new draft plan will determine land zoning, permitted uses and development controls that will ultimately shape and determine what property owners can build on their land.

"In order for the NSW Government to create the necessary jobs to meet the targets in the Central Coast Economic Development and Employment Strategy, it is imperative that the new council planning controls encourage developers to provide new retail, commercial and light industrial floor space for the future so that we can harness the potential employment opportunities."

Mr Wales said more flexible height and floor space ratio controls would make it more viable for developers to renew the Peninsula's aging commercial centres.

"We understand that the Umina Beach retail zones will be extended through to Wellington St which is a logical and sensible thing to do," Mr Wales said.

"This must be accompanied by a modest increase in floor space ratios and flexible heights of say four storeys otherwise there will be no benefit to property owners to redevelop.

"Umina is going through a major transformation with Coles, Woolworths and Aldi all vying for the retail dollar."

Mr Wales said he believed council's greatest challenge was in the revitalisation of the Woy Woy town centre.

"For the NSW Government's employment strategy to be successful, something must be done to kick start the Woy Woy town centre which is increasingly feeling the pressure of overloaded commuter car parks, traffic congestion and the impending exit of retail dollars to a resurgent Umina," Mr Wales said.

"The hidden nasty for Woy Woy is the going to be the cost impact of higher building floor levels to accommodate climate change, the cost of basement car parking and the pressure of an expanding commuter carpark.

"Any potential benefits from Gosford Council's new planning guidelines may mean nothing if the cost to build in Woy Woy through higher floor levels and possible higher developer contributions materialises."

Council is looking to restrict building heights and floor space on main areas in Ettalong Beach which could potentially ruin the "good quality" development needed in these locations, according to Mr Wales.

"Regrettably, in the Ettalong Beach town centre, we understand that council is to restrict building heights and floor space controls on key sites on the beachfront which may strangle the good quality development that we desperately need at these locations," Mr Wales said.

"If you can't convince property owners and developers to build high quality retail/residential buildings on these catalyst sites, then the rest of the town will struggle.

"By far the greatest worry for the building industry is the development controls that will accompany the new planning instrument.

"The Peninsula Chamber is concerned that council will look to limit residential building heights to eight-and-a-half metres and force developers towards sub-basement parking.

"Lower building heights will stifle innovative design and sub-basement parking will be cost prohibitive.:bash:

"These new development controls need to be carefully scrutinised so that they don't strangle good design and the fledgling recovery in the building industry."

Mr Wales said he urged all business operators, commercial property owners and those in the building industry to read the Draft Local Environment Plan carefully and forward submissions to the council from February 10.

He said the chamber welcomed anyone who needed assistance on their submission to contact 4343 1141.

Press release, 5 Feb 2010 Matthew Wales, Peninsula Chamber of Commerce

Comments

So what is Gosford's real problem? Campbelltown with water views? I never got why this place isn't thriving. I know a lot of other Coast stuff happens elsewhere but it's not like there isn't enough people in Gosford. Have the Council rejected too much stuff?

Councillors like Malcolm Brooks contributed to the problems, the same old councillors continually opposed everything with companies like spurbest loosing alot of money trying to reinvent the city. Malcolm Brooks wanted a lowrise parisan vision for gosford. There has been so much inaction in years earlier that many excellent proposals and business visions have collasped over time. Developers can take only so much and most of them disappeared. Gosford has been run into the ground for years while just about every other centre in the region has thrived.

But what do the Coasters who want more from life than mall-crawling do?

Is there a night-time scene that doesn't involve RSLs/Leagues Clubs, or specialty shops that you won't find at Westfield? You know, like what the Sydney CBD does?

Terrigal and Avoca have always had some designer shopping. There are night spots in Terrigal that don't involve RSLs or Sports Clubs but these got fucked up alot when the curfews where brought in. It killed business completely. A favourite has always been Crowne Plaza Bars and Nightclub, esp thursday nights, Iguanas and Woodport used to attract a few people too.

Avoca also has some boutique stores. They also have antique stores, one of which does ads on Ten Northern in the Hunter Valley.

Cul, some councils in Sydney insist that garages be built below ground in unit projects to keep heights down.

3storeys? that really sucks.that would stagnate the peninsula for ever. this better not happen.

http://images.whereilive.com.au/images/uploads/2010/02/16/dd92f811549a84317199f6491ac6fdab_resized.jpg

Waterfront restrictions raise the ire of business groups

newsLocal News17 Feb 10 @ 03:04am by TERRY COLLINS

Matthew Wales is concerned about restrictions on waterfront development at Ettalong Beach.
THE newly released draft local environment plan for the Gosford local government area has met with a rocky reception from business leaders.

Peninsula Chamber of Commerce president Matthew Wales described part of the plan as “diabolical”.

“On the surface it certainly has good elements but we see a lot of structural issues that haven’t been dealt with,” Mr Wales said. “We are concerned about the council’s proposal to cap beachfront land at Ettalong Beach at three storeys. This is no different to what already exists and these are key sites.

“If you can’t encourage signature development on these properties Ettalong will struggle into the future to revitalise and redevelop.

“The rest of Ettalong Beach is capped at five storeys but no property owner will invest in five-storey buildings with no views from the lower levels. This attempt to step development back from the beachfront will not eventuate.”

Mr Wales said on the positive side the council had taken on board comments regarding floor space ratios and building heights in the Umina Beach CBD.

“The proposal is effectively for a four-storey limit and extended commercial zone through to Wellington St, which is a really good outcome with Umina emerging as the prime retail centre on the Peninsula,” Mr Wales said.

“But we are very concerned at the suggestion to cap residential building heights to 8.5m.
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Gosford Chamber of Commerce president Rod Dever said members were concerned at a proposal to ban commercial operations from the Gosford waterfront.

“We will be examining the documents more closely in coming weeks but we certainly have some concerns,” Mr Dever said.


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Work set to start on Woy Woy carpark

newsLocal News16 Feb 10 @ 09:30am by TERRY COLLINS

WORK on the new Woy Woy commuter carpark is expected to start almost immediately after state government project approval this week.

Gosford State Labor MP Marie Andrews said the approval, which followed a public display and feedback period, was a “milestone” in the delivery of new commuter carparking spaces for Woy Woy.

“The project involves construction of three additional storeys above a section of the existing Deepwater Plaza single-storey carpark located off George St,” Ms Andrews said.

“It will provide about 300 additional commuter car parking spaces.

“The community will really benefit from this project and I am delighted that construction work will begin almost immediately.”

Before major construction begins on the Deepwater Plaza site, a temporary commuter carpark will be constructed on a site north of Woy Woy Oval and Austin Butler Oval.

Construction on the Deepwater Plaza commuter carpark can then start and is due to be completed early next year.

Its typical, the mentality behind a lot of government planners in this country is dubious.

umina woolies!!
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cheers for the updates cull

BTW what is with the hideous plans they have for the Gosford CBD submissions closed recently for somethinf called the Gosford challenge.

The plan is foul, and IMO looking a little too lowrise. The canals and water use around the waterfront is reasonable but why did they select Cox as the designer. He is a twat.

I read the Gosford Challenge - notice no mention of getting rid of the waterfront sidings.

Suggestion. Four track easement reserved from Gosford to Point Clare, but any sidings are moved to north of Gosford (like Wyong!)

Rail corridor then available for burying with development on top. Four tracks should cover both the local passenger service and a freight/long distance passenger route to the north.

And what are these wank-words like "Playground"

It doesn't take too much justification to suggest that businesses like restaurants and cafes and marinas and so on might like a waterfront area to be designated and developed and to attract a few people down there. Calling it a "Playground" is just duff.

Get rid of the rail sidings. Install a four-track bridge and put a clear cylinder around it, like the Flemington Rd on Citylink. Reduce the train noise a bit. Get rid of all the rail surplus land down there and stick a few trees in.

a sec96 has come in for the 10storey tower cnr mann/faunce st.
work is set to start soon.

a sec96 has come in for the 10storey tower cnr mann/faunce st.
work is set to start soon.

Excellent, right next to the station. Get those buildings up, people!

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I spent some time back in December with friends in Davistown, I dragged myself out of bed one morning , to catch sunrise over Brisbane Water........

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well while others are posting their sunrise photos heres my contribution taken a couple of weeks ago:

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Word is they're sinking an old ship to form a new reef off the coast of Avoca.

TV showed hoards of protesters outside the Gosford City Council offices. This will surely destroy the Central Coast. End of the world.

:ohno: :cry:

all 55+ with nothing better to do i guess.

Private research shows 75% of people complaining to local Government are the same buch of hicks each time ... and yes the results also show a massive proportion of them are retirees.

Word is they're sinking an old ship to form a new reef off the coast of Avoca.

TV showed hoards of protesters outside the Gosford City Council offices. This will surely destroy the Central Coast. End of the world.

:ohno: :cry:

It's going ahead on Saturday. Peter Garrett & the NSW Government signed off on it yesterday.

It will be a dive site, but the locals fear it will increase beach erosion and PCB's will leak into the water.

If you visit the NIMBY's thread, you will see a Stateline video on their actions.

It's going ahead on Saturday. Peter Garrett & the NSW Government signed off on it yesterday.

It will be a dive site, but the locals fear it will increase beach erosion and PCB's will leak into the water.

If you visit the NIMBY's thread, you will see a Stateline video on their actions.

thanks to these stupid NIMBY'S it now wont be going ahead on saturday as planned

I read about it this morning :bash:
There was even a festival planned for the day :(:(:(

your kidding, what are these people upset about?

They feel that the ship still has PCB's which would leak into the ocean. They also feel that the creation of a reef off the beach will lead to beach erosion with the width of he beach to shrink by 5 metres.

^serious? the ship will be sunk in 32m of water. 1.7km from shore.

Yep, and when the ship eventually does get sunk, all those NIMBYists with their waterfront cafes are going to have to cover their mouths when customers walk in who've been diving at the wreck. Would they say "I wish you weren't here, spending your money, because the reason you came is wrong?"

What locals forget is that it will be good for local tourism - divers will drive from around NSW and beyond to dive there.

Terrigal will be the big winner out of it as boat access is from there and not Avoca. Diving schools are supporting it.

Just in: 2GB reports that the scuttling will be delayed indefinately.

god people are ffuucckkeedd

It won't be good for local organisations that were looking to make money on the day and for local businesses. 50 000 were expected to see it.

word is its now happening on may 1 or 2. its just a drawback from hypocritical greenies.

umina woolies update
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is it going to be 2 stories? or is it just really large windows?

1/3 of the floor area has another floor, probably for wooliesoffices.
really makes a statement in west st !

it certainly does!!!!

word is its now happening on may 1 or 2. its just a drawback from hypocritical greenies.

and local NIMBY's. :bash: