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angcammoc June 9th, 2009, 04:36 PM A Guiné-Bissau é um país da costa ocidental de África que se estende desde o cabo Roxo até à ponta Cagete. Faz fronteira a norte com o Senegal, a este e sudeste com a Guiné (ex-francesa, de capital em Conacri) e a sul e oeste com o oceano Atlântico. Além do território continental, integra ainda cerca de oitenta ilhas que constituem o arquipélago dos Bijagós, separado do Continente pelos canais do rio Geba, de Pedro Álvares, de Bolama e de Canhabaque.
Foi uma colónia de Portugal desde o século XV até à sua independência, em 1974. Atualmente faz parte da Comunidade dos Países de Língua Portuguesa (CPLP), das Nações Unidas, dos PALOP e da União Africana.
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Barragon June 10th, 2009, 05:24 AM Nice work :applause:
angcammoc June 10th, 2009, 07:22 PM ^^wow, i didn't know you were the moderator here, i just found out now:lol:
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Barragon June 11th, 2009, 02:32 PM Yes. If you need any help just say so. Se precisares de alguma ajuda diz. Abraço
angcammoc June 12th, 2009, 01:07 PM ok ^^ :cheers:
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CEARENSE July 16th, 2009, 04:25 AM acho que nossos irmãos de Bissau estão um pouco atrasado em relação a outros países lusófonos da ÁFRICA como Cabo Verde e Angola
Barragon July 16th, 2009, 11:36 AM é um país que tem tido muitas complicações.
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Gwo Loo Waan July 24th, 2009, 05:43 AM Não estamos a falar de um país normal mas sim de um narco-estado, aliás, o mais importante de África.
lucasnn August 16th, 2009, 05:00 PM Parece muito atrasado mesmo, cidade muito empoeirada. A vida de país gira em torno de Bissau?
Barragon August 16th, 2009, 08:24 PM A cidade tem por volta de 1 terço da população do paí.
chrisangel August 17th, 2009, 03:05 PM it has some beautiful portuguese architecture which seems ignored,the poverty is very visible it looks like depends more on investment
Nicolau August 18th, 2009, 11:54 AM boas fotos
robertoarcanjo November 10th, 2009, 01:26 PM Muito bonito Bissau, tenho um projeto de morar dois anos na Africa, estou indeciso entre Mozabique Sao Tome e Pricipe ou Bissau..
StormShadow November 12th, 2009, 12:35 AM Thanks for the pictures. Some noticeable Portuguese influence in this city, more so than I thought.
I see a Cuban banner, is this a Cuban embassy ?
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CEARENSE November 12th, 2009, 03:24 AM Meu Deus, eu vi uma mesquita ou estou enganado ?
o povo de GUINE-BISSAU são mulçumanos ?
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alama April 13th, 2010, 03:40 AM Lindo pais, mas precisa de muito, mas muito investimento mesmo.
Bie1 July 24th, 2010, 08:50 PM http://lh6.ggpht.com/_1nGnvUl3HbY/S6TzSQ5UObI/AAAAAAAABIE/RT6wsc8oT5s/s800/DSC00626.JPG
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Lino October 30th, 2010, 02:38 AM Belas fotos, pena que esteja sempre na luta entre militares e políticos. O povo não merece, conheço vários Guineenses em Portugal e são super-simpáticos. Uma vez até vi umas danças lindíssimas numa missa africana... e a comida, bem nem falo :D
Espero que o país se recomponha para se desenvolver, dar mais alegrias àquele povo, até porque iria enriquecer com o turismo!!
O edifício da assembleia contrasta imenso com a cidade...
alex reis December 12th, 2010, 05:43 PM não gostei muito
das cidades
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^^ I love the rustic charms that this place has.. :)
Muchenyi February 8th, 2011, 08:00 AM Uma terra amaldiçoada por pântanos e rios.
evany February 8th, 2011, 11:26 AM a Guiné um dia será muito melhor do que é agora
Muchenyi February 9th, 2011, 03:51 PM Pior do que é agora é tecnicamente impossível. A Guiné Bissau não é um país, mas um narco-país sem rei nem roque...
alama February 9th, 2011, 04:00 PM Desejo toda sorte do mundo, é disso k aqueles nossos irmãos lusofonos precisam e merecem.
Quem diria k Angola um dia se tornaria no que esta se tornando? Onde as pessoas ve desgraça e caos total eu vejo oportunidades d investimento e negocios. :cheers: Viva Bissau!
evany February 9th, 2011, 04:33 PM vivaaa :applause:
Bie1 February 9th, 2011, 07:00 PM Desejo toda sorte do mundo, é disso k aqueles nossos irmãos lusofonos precisam e merecem.
Quem diria k Angola um dia se tornaria no que esta se tornando? Onde as pessoas ve desgraça e caos total eu vejo oportunidades d investimento e negocios. :cheers: Viva Bissau!
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Muchenyi February 10th, 2011, 07:22 AM Onde as pessoas ve desgraça e caos total eu vejo oportunidades d investimento e negocios. :cheers: Viva Bissau!
Olhe, vá para lá e tente fazer negócios. Da última vez que estive na Avenida Amílcar Cabral até dava para arrepiar. Não me leve a mal, que eu não estou a dizer que a inferioridade intelectual de quem comenta é tão grande que chega a ser confrangedora.
alama February 10th, 2011, 01:45 PM Por acaso a minha pessoa disse algo que lhe deixou ofendido? Pra o teu conhecimento o meu comentario ñ estava a se dirigir a ti...Mas bem, se achas que estava... Then you can imagine it as you see fit.
evany February 10th, 2011, 08:42 PM ouch...muita calma nessa hora
AOP1MZ February 12th, 2011, 01:21 AM Muito bonito Bissau, tenho um projeto de morar dois anos na Africa, estou indeciso entre Mozabique Sao Tome e Pricipe ou Bissau..
Mozambique com certeza. Pais lusofone mais desenvolvido em Africa :lol:
Muchenyi February 12th, 2011, 04:39 AM São Tomé e Príncipe é um país calmo e tranquilo. Bissau, meu amigo, é o último sitio onde quererá mudar...
evany February 12th, 2011, 05:37 AM muita calma nessa hora pessoal
emerson_nb July 29th, 2011, 04:02 AM http://lh6.ggpht.com/_1nGnvUl3HbY/S6TzSQ5UObI/AAAAAAAABIE/RT6wsc8oT5s/s800/DSC00626.JPG
Primeira vez que vejo fotos da região. Parece que as expectativas para Bissau é de dias melhores. ...acredito que ainda serão necessários alguns anos para Bissau acompanhar o ritmo de Angola.
NuncaPior September 13th, 2011, 05:33 AM Esse edificio branco foi patrocinado pela RP China, certo?
alama September 28th, 2011, 11:55 AM Porquê? Parece chinês?
Håkønljzberg September 28th, 2011, 05:36 PM http://i.imgur.com/zeiHo.jpg
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alama September 28th, 2011, 08:06 PM Obrigado Hakon! As fotos são adoráveis. Many thanks bro!
alama November 9th, 2011, 10:19 PM tempo de fazer um update!!
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6185/6042123464_6e3d453c28_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mahmbr/6042123464/)
Bissau (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mahmbr/6042123464/) by Marco Heidtmann Monteiro (http://www.flickr.com/people/mahmbr/), on Flickr
alama November 9th, 2011, 10:21 PM http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6081/6041577339_c99dc3a00f_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mahmbr/6041577339/)
Bissau (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mahmbr/6041577339/) by Marco Heidtmann Monteiro (http://www.flickr.com/people/mahmbr/), on Flickr
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Bissau (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mahmbr/6042123652/) by Marco Heidtmann Monteiro (http://www.flickr.com/people/mahmbr/), on Flickr
alama November 9th, 2011, 10:23 PM Aparentemente ha novos edificios sendo erguidos.
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Bissau (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mahmbr/6041576663/) by Marco Heidtmann Monteiro (http://www.flickr.com/people/mahmbr/), on Flickr
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Bissau (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mahmbr/6042124576/) by Marco Heidtmann Monteiro (http://www.flickr.com/people/mahmbr/), on Flickr
alama November 9th, 2011, 10:26 PM Algumas fotos sao meio antigas(2008/9)
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6063/6041578175_07f0e90039_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mahmbr/6041578175/)
Bissau (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mahmbr/6041578175/) by Marco Heidtmann Monteiro (http://www.flickr.com/people/mahmbr/), on Flickr
Barragon November 11th, 2011, 01:54 PM Já me parece emlhor.
alama November 11th, 2011, 10:20 PM Pois e' Barra, pouco a pouco as coisas vao chegar la, espero eu :D
NuncaPior November 29th, 2011, 06:11 AM Pois e' Barra, pouco a pouco as coisas vao chegar la, espero eu :D
Enquanto os chineses por lá habitarem vão aparecendo umas coisas novas. O que lá está e ainda está de pé foi deixado pelo colonizador português há mais de 3 décadas.
yosef January 23rd, 2012, 12:11 AM a nice little city near the coast..any more pics?
alama January 25th, 2012, 07:20 PM ^^I am going to find them.
Lino March 23rd, 2012, 10:55 AM Parece estar a estabilizar, esperemos que a paz seja duradoura para que esse país com essas belas pessoas, tão alegres que são, possa florescer. Merece mostrar-se ao mundo, receber turistas e demais pessoas de bem. Abraço e obrigado pelas fotos!
Paperyostrich April 6th, 2012, 08:31 PM I think its a shame to see the state that these otherwise beautful Portuguese builings are in. It really makes me want to go over there with a paintbrush and a tin of paint
Lino April 12th, 2012, 11:32 PM Outra vez um golpe militar, espero que os Guineenses daqui e quem lá viva esteja bem, e que o país deixe as armas de vez e pense no desenvolvimento...
alama April 12th, 2012, 11:57 PM Que coisa mais triste! Esse pais merece muito mais que golpes de estado, trafico de drogas e conflitos...
Lino April 13th, 2012, 01:17 AM fala-se de que o PM esteja morto, há tiros e a embaixada portuguesa cercada... coitados dos Guineenses :(
Matthias Offodile April 13th, 2012, 01:56 PM I think its a shame to see the state that these otherwise beautiful Portuguese buildings are in. It really makes me want to go over there with a paintbrush and a tin of paint
+1
Into the bargain, they just had another military coup, just another one in a string of coups...and the second in West Africa in less than one month.:ohno:
Paperyostrich April 13th, 2012, 02:26 PM +1
Into the bargain, they just had another military coup, just another one in a string of coups...and the second in West Africa in less than one month.:ohno:
I'll be frank the coup didn't surprise me, especially as in Guinea Bissau not one president has ever completed a full term, but also becuse in many states it seems that, especially during elections one group will never accept the results if the opposition wins, that is the cause for many of these wars and coups. Even if the elections were fair, which they apparently were seems people were sent from Northern Ireland to moniter them, one of the groups will not be happy because they did not win.
Lino April 13th, 2012, 02:52 PM Portuguese tv say that the president and the PM were taken to some unknown place and the house of the president of the supreme court was plundered. :ohno:
SUNS 25 August 1st, 2012, 08:20 AM This country there is definitely entered the paranoia. I recall reading an English newspaper "Telegraph" which said that the Ambassador of Portugal in Guinea Bissau had said that it's a bankrupt state, which failed and no prospect of stability in the future.
Paperyostrich August 1st, 2012, 09:32 AM This country there is definitely entered the paranoia. I recall reading an English newspaper "Telegraph" which said that the Ambassador of Portugal in Guinea Bissau had said that it's a bankrupt state, which failed and no prospect of stability in the future.
I say there is no such thing as a faild state, the country could redeem itself in the future with the right governance, the country may be bankrupt but with some hard work it could become a state with some vision.
IMO Guinea-Bissau has alot of potential, but if it wasn't for these bickering political parties and these coups every 3 years then Guinea-Bissau could make something for itself, Maybe the political parties could work together to try and get something done, although I don't see that happening in the future :ohno:. It's a shame because it's one if my faveroite countries as well ;)
SUNS 25 August 1st, 2012, 11:25 AM I say there is no such thing as a faild state, the country could redeem itself in the future with the right governance, the country may be bankrupt but with some hard work it could become a state with some vision.
IMO Guinea-Bissau has alot of potential, but if it wasn't for these bickering political parties and these coups every 3 years then Guinea-Bissau could make something for itself, Maybe the political parties could work together to try and get something done, although I don't see that happening in the future :ohno:. It's a shame because it's one if my faveroite countries as well ;)
dude, this country there is a narco state where drug lords Latin American have a influence within the military junta and the administration. :)
everything is corrupt, damn! the former president Viera fought against the mafia, he was murdered without state of mind.:ohno:
this country, it's Pandemonium! ;)
Paperyostrich August 1st, 2012, 03:59 PM dude, this country there is a narco state where drug lords Latin American have a influence within the military junta and the administration. :)
everything is corrupt, damn! the former president Viera fought against the mafia, he was murdered without state of mind.:ohno:
this country, it's Pandemonium! ;)
True, the country needs an overhaul, but I'm sure one day the country will sort itself out. Somewhere in Guinea-Bissau there must be someone with a vision.
I agree it is sad that the president was murdered, but the government itself is also part of GB's stability problem. The political parties simply don't get along, if one of them is not in power then elections are not free and fair (according to the other party) Maybe a coalition could work to actually get things done. Maybe I'm talking out of my ass with that one though :lol:
Maybe getting rid of the military could help, or at least re-organizing it?
But I wouldn't call the state failed in all ways, why the country may be poor and corrupt but the country is growing at an average of 3.5% per year, which may not be that much for Africa, but there are a lot of developing countries growing a lot slower, so the goverment must be doing something right. Also they recently finished a massive project rebuilding Bissau's main road, it is truly good. And some of the infrastructure is there. Bissau has paved roads, a seaport, an airport, a bus service, taxis, all it needs is modernization, and with China's growing presence in Africa it could happen, and maybe one day when the mineral resources are finally exploited maybe GB could finance projects themselves.
Maybe I'm being a bit crazy here but where others see Guinea-Bissau as a failure, I see it as a land of opportunity, believe me if I had the money I would defiantly be putting it in this country, well in Bissau at least. :)
alama August 2nd, 2012, 10:18 PM This country there is definitely entered the paranoia. I recall reading an English newspaper "Telegraph" which said that the Ambassador of Portugal in Guinea Bissau had said that it's a bankrupt state, which failed and no prospect of stability in the future.
There's always hope. :)
SUNS 25 August 6th, 2012, 03:39 AM There's always hope. :)
alama,
In this country, there was always hope, but hope has been always defeated by setbacks. Guinea Bissau, leaders are unable to respect the principle of law, constitution and maintain the order in this country. this is a real and very sad. :)
Paperyostrich August 6th, 2012, 12:45 PM alama,
In this country, there was always hope, but hope has been always defeated by setbacks. Guinea Bissau, leaders are unable to respect the principle of law, constitution and maintain the order in this country. this is a real and very sad. :)
Well there was in most of the former Portuguese colonies as well. Angola, Mozambique, East Timor. They thought there was to be hope for these countries but they all fell into economic mismanagment due to Portugal's repressive regime an umanagable colonial economy, civil war etc. People thought these countries were then hopless, but look at them now. Yes Angola is one of the most corrupt countries in the world but look at how its developing.
Mozambique has grown at a stunning rate since 1992, and although it is one of the poorest countries in the world it has a very promising future ahead of it.
East timor is now well governed and is soon to start producing oil with Australia.
Guinea-Bissau has massive potential and resources, a small population and is getting freindly with China, so I'd be watching out for Guinea-Bissau in the furture, it could be a drak horse on the African continent. :)
Matthias Offodile August 6th, 2012, 07:30 PM Well there was in most of the former Portuguese colonies as well. Angola, Mozambique, East Timor. They thought there was to be hope for these countries but they all fell into economic mismanagment due to Portugal's repressive regime an umanagable colonial economy, civil war etc. People thought these countries were then hopless, but look at them now. Yes Angola is one of the most corrupt countries in the world but look at how its developing.
Mozambique has grown at a stunning rate since 1992, and although it is one of the poorest countries in the world it has a very promising future ahead of it.
East timor is now well governed and is soon to start producing oil with Australia.
Guinea-Bissau has massive potential and resources, a small population and is getting freindly with China, so I'd be watching out for Guinea-Bissau in the furture, it could be a drak horse on the African continent. :)
Please, who thought that there was hope for these countries? Get your historic facts right, for Goodness sake!
Your viewpoint on lusophone countries is so typically of "how aloof English people look at/down upon the world that is or was not in their former sphere of influence"...and it shows that you do not read lusophone press articles, blogs or books written by people in Portuguese from those countries or lusophonia as a whole. So your arguments are truly distorted. but you are forgiven due to your inability to understand Portuguese.
Apart from that, it is quite weird that you didn´t mention the biggest of all, BRAZIL...which is among the TOP 10 strongest economies in the world...and has slowly crept up its way to come close to Britain, the former "glorious" Empire nation that once ruled the world....
And you forget Cape Verde which was one of the very few African countries which achieved miiddle income status without having any ressources to speak of.
Guinea-Bissau is the only messed up lusophone country at present...and actually there is very little hope. Hopefully, Portugal, Angola and Brazil will help that country somehow. Guinea Bissau doesn´t deserve this shit! It could be a small gem in West Africa.
Paperyostrich August 6th, 2012, 08:25 PM Please, who thought that there was hope for these countries? Get your historic facts right, for Goodness sake!
Your viewpoint on lusophone countries is so typically of "how aloof English people look at/down upon the world that is or was not in their former sphere of influence"...and it shows that you do not read lusophone press articles, blogs or books written by people in Portuguese from those countries or lusophonia as a whole. So your arguments are truly distorted. but you are forgiven due to your inability to understand Portuguese.
Apart from that, it is quite weird that you didn´t mention the biggest of all, BRAZIL...which is among the TOP 10 strongest economies in the world...and has slowly crept up its way to come close to Britain, the former "glorious" Empire nation that once ruled the world....
And you forget Cape Verde which was one of the very few African countries which achieved miiddle income status without having any ressources to speak of.
Guinea-Bissau is the only messed up lusophone country at present...and actually there is very little hope. Hopefully, Portugal, Angola and Brazil will help that country somehow. Guinea Bissau doesn´t deserve this shit! It could be a small gem in West Africa.
First of all Matt I was refering to the countries that has their 1973-1975 independance, not Brazil who gained its independance in 1822.
These African colonies (Not too sure about East Timor) for Africa had very developed and organised infranstructure for the most part, if they could get organised for independance then these countries could have exceled in Africa, But for Angola and Mozambique the USA wasn't too keen on their communist goverments (neither was I as well) so they simply became cold war battle feilds. 27 years of growth lost for Angola, but war is what happens when people don't agree
Sao Tome and Principe could have massive potential but then it was way too dependant on cocoa, which often went through massive fluctuations in prices, and was also at the hands of a dictatorship. But now with good governance (Ironically with the 1975-1991 dictator back in power) and the oil partnership with Nigeria STP has a bright future ahead of it.
Cape Verde is the major sucsess story, because unlike the other colonies (bar STP) it wasn't ravaged by the colonial war or torn between the capitalist or communist factions.
If Portugal wasn't so dictorial in the running of it's colonies and let them have their desired independance around the 1961-1964 era when the colonial wars started, or when the colonies became autonomus regions of Portugal itself in 1951 then maybe the countries could have been sucsessful and not war torn. But they are rising from the ashes.
People had high expections of these countries, just like Uganda or Nigeria or the DRC, and look now, they are growing, they never lost hope and Guinea Bissau shouldn't either. Maybe if Guinea Bissau was; like the other colonies should have been, actually ready for independence then maybe Guinea Bissau wouldn't be muddled up in dictatorship, lawlessness and civil strife. But there is still hope and some people will never put the country down and will always remain hopeful, Like me.
Matthias Offodile August 6th, 2012, 10:33 PM [QUOTE]First of all Matt I was refering to the countries that has their 1973-1975 independance, not Brazil who gained its independance in 1822.
OK.
These African colonies (Not too sure about East Timor) for Africa had very developed and organised infranstructure for the most part, if they could get organised for independance then these countries could have exceled in Africa, But for Angola and Mozambique the USA wasn't too keen on their communist goverments (neither was I as well) so they simply became cold war battle feilds. 27 years of growth lost for Angola, but war is what happens when people don't agree
There was no time for any form of orderly transition and the whole process was HIGHLY ill-planned: many black, white and mullato Angolans say that in blogs, books, documents, news articles etc....
In the end, 27 years were lost, and 1 million lives and expertise was lost, a traumatised population that suffered hell and vast swathes of young people who couldn´t go to school or dream of a better life ...what for?...for nothing in the end.
it is not just the 27 years lost ...but also the tens of billions of US-dollars (if not much more than $100 billion until the country is fully rebuild) which is being invested now to reconstruct the country could have been invested into the further construction of a country that didn´t start from scratch in 1975.
And it wasn´t about Communism only, they had a more evil interest at heart. I don´t want to enlarge on it that much....
Kissinger’s Lies on Angola
An historian from Johns Hopkins named Piero Gleijeses, working with newly obtained documents, has exposed an official U.S. lie from the 1970s: that South African troops invaded Angola on their own, without our help, and only in response to a prior, Soviet-backed invasion by Cuba. Actually, according to the evidence turned up by Gleijeses, and published in his new book Conflicting Missions: Havana, Washington, and Africa, 1959-1976, the truth was exactly the opposite: the U.S. helped plan and carry out the South African incursion, and the Cuban troops arrived only afterward, and without prior Soviet knowledge or assistance (though the Soviets did help later on). Kissinger, as Gerald Ford’s Secretary of State at the time, was the Administration’s point man on spreading the official version of reality, a lie to which he has never admitted, and probably won’t have to now. Which is pretty much the way these big lies work: you don’t have to keep the truth secret forever, just long enough (25 years, in this case) so that the only people who still care about it are stuffy academics and conspiracy junkies.
http://www.lies.com/wp/2002/04/20/kissingers-lies-on-angola/
Sao Tome and Principe could have massive potential but then it was way too dependant on cocoa, which often went through massive fluctuations in prices, and was also at the hands of a dictatorship. But now with good governance (Ironically with the 1975-1991 dictator back in power) and the oil partnership with Nigeria STP has a bright future ahead of it.
Let´s hope so.:)
Cape Verde is the major sucsess story, because unlike the other colonies (bar STP) it wasn't ravaged by the colonial war or torn between the capitalist or communist factions.
Neither Mozambique nor Angola "were ravaged"/destroyed by colonial wars, it was principally fought in the bush and not in urban centres of the country.
a I said agriculture also blossomed throughout 1961-1972/73 and the economy expanded akin to what you see in Asia.
If Portugal wasn't so dictorial in the running of it's colonies and let them have their desired independance around the 1961-1964 era when the colonial wars started, or when the colonies became autonomus regions of Portugal itself in 1951 then maybe the countries could have been sucsessful and not war torn. But they are rising from the ashes.
Salazar was a bloody fucking idiot of an a******...sorry for such rude language!
Furthermore, you should know that among the most prominent people in the war of independence were not only black Angolans but also white & mulatto Angolans..(different from the majority of African countries where it was just white against black only) ...and many of them hated the colonial government and ended up in prison...but that´s a long story that I don´t want to expand on. Very complex issue and not as simple as you depict.
As for the rest of your arguments, it is only mere specualtion.
What would have happened to South Africa if there was no soothing force like Nelson Mandela around or let´s say an Idi Amin like figure? Mere speculation.
and what would have happened to the South Africa if the apartheid regime had collapsed at the height of the the Cold War? Mere specualtion , too.
People had high expections of these countries, just like Uganda or Nigeria or the DRC, and look now, they are growing, they never lost hope and Guinea Bissau shouldn't either. Maybe if Guinea Bissau was; like the other colonies should have been, actually ready for independence then maybe Guinea Bissau wouldn't be muddled up in dictatorship, lawlessness and civil strife. But there is still hope and some people will never put the country down and will always remain hopeful, Like me.
Without external help from the above-mentioned countries who have the money and tecnical capacity, a brighter Guinea Bissau will not be a reality any time soon.
I am a full-blown realist in order not to be dragged away in wisful thinking..and my predictions are seldom false.
I predicted that Angola will rise quickly six years back for which I just got lauughter & scorn from various people back then...look at it now.
But let´s cut it off here.....you can send me a message in my box if you want to discuss the matter over..it is an endless debate but let´s keep the thread clean here after all, please. It is a picture gallery.
SUNS 25 August 14th, 2012, 12:09 PM the only thing to do for this country is to pray and say God save the Bissau Guinea, :lol:
forgiveness him of his sins and guide him in the right direction so that he does not fall back into chaos and paranoia. ;)
Matthias Offodile August 19th, 2012, 04:11 PM removed
Paperyostrich May 2nd, 2013, 08:59 AM The parliament and a portion of the new main road through Bissau
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/59646000/jpg/_59646048_guinea_bissau_parly_afpg.jpg
Quite scenic from the air
http://cdn4.vtourist.com/6/1618949-aerial_view_of_Bissau_Guinea_Bissau.jpg
http://www.un.org/News/dh/photos/large/2012/May/05-18-2012guineabissau.jpg
http://pt.globalvoicesonline.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/demotix-bissau-paigc.jpg
http://www.bissautourism.com/images/stories/hotel%20ancar.jpg
Looks like a building is being renovated
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-oz6hYKdUh9E/UStlc-HfPwI/AAAAAAAAALc/QR1nhHdVPjQ/s1600/DSC_0635.JPG
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8533/8670715059_2bb8353898_z.jpg
http://www.thewildbeauties.com/EasyEdit/UserFiles/Blog2/guinea-bissau-1/guinea-bissau-1-1_800_600.jpeg
Nice house ;)
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-wxxOabAno4g/URu7PEY-7bI/AAAAAAAAAI4/7gc-O6NFFck/s1600/DSC_0549.JPG
The old presidential palace is currently undergoing a renovation into what I think is a museum (I can't remember) I'm sure the president is staying next door though. Sadly, I couldn't get any pictures of the renovations, but I'll try looking harder :)
http://images.travelpod.com/tw_slides/ta00/9d8/494/ancient-presidential-palace-guinea-bissau.jpg
It'll look nice when it's done
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