Proposed redevelopment of the old cinemas in Albert Street. Design is by Ashton Raggat McDougall with Arkhefield. Will also include upgrade of shoppng strip to the queen st mall.

http://fountainhead.50megs.com/ARM/ARM%20CV_commercial06%20copy.jpg

Looks good:D

Wow. That's certainly different!
Funk it up.

I wonder who will be signing up for floor space?

What a modern design, nearly shagadelic baby!

How many levels is this?

Not bad! I liked the older design better, but it was taller so there you go.

Looks good anyway.

jt

Where are all the homeless people going to sleep now?
The Elizabeth st side was a haven for a lot of them........

Originally posted by Orodreth


How many levels is this?

11 stories.

I like the design, but because of the lack height I have to go for the old design.

But it is definitely better than what is there currently.

Originally posted by NCC1701D
Where are all the homeless people going to sleep now?
The Elizabeth st side was a haven for a lot of them........ I was thinking the same thing. Not to mention the food van that dishes out meals there on the side of the road.
I guess they might find a new location during construction and may not migrate back after completion?
I take it there is no covered shelter anywhere in the CBD like Vinnies have across town?

Originally posted by Mr MacPhisto
I was thinking the same thing. Not to mention the food van that dishes out meals there on the side of the road.
I guess they might find a new location during construction and may not migrate back after completion?
I take it there is no covered shelter anywhere in the CBD like Vinnies have across town?

Poor bastards, alot of them got kicked out when 'Borders Books' when up diagnally across - now this !!!. Oh well they still got the bus shelter at North Quay.......

Wow, I like it! Now all they need to do is stick big neon billboards over it now. :)

IMO Its nothing special. From that image I perceive it to be just a very ordinary building, wrapped in a very crude facade. Its quite a 'cold' building really. Hope this comment isn't seen as unduly harsh. Its just my opinion!

Its like the James Street markets. The kind of building where a brisbanite can take their friends who are up from Melbourne, and say (or casually insinuate) "look we can be funky too!"

Despite this, I think its a lot more interesting than all the other mid-rise commercial blocks of recent years. So Im cautiously optimistic about this one.

It looks to me like the development also involves a reworking of the podium facade for the T&G building. And obviously the plaza space in Albert street. Just like the Brisbane Square project im more interested in how this space will work.

Thanks Fountainhead for the pic!

Originally posted by Brizbane2
IMO Its nothing special. From that image I perceive it to be just a very ordinary building, wrapped in a very crude facade. Its quite a 'cold' building really. Hope this comment isn't seen as unduly harsh. Its just my opinion!

Its like the James Street markets. The kind of building where a brisbanite can take their friends who are up from Melbourne, and say (or casually insinuate) "look we can be funky too!"

Despite this, I think its a lot more interesting than all the other mid-rise commercial blocks of recent years. So Im cautiously optimistic about this one.

It looks to me like the development also involves a reworking of the podium facade for the T&G building. And obviously the plaza space in Albert street. Just like the Brisbane Square project im more interested in how this space will work.

Thanks Fountainhead for the pic!

I agree with some of what you're saying B2. It doesn't seem like anything that special - but for the site I think it's quite good - they could do worse. (Although it would be nice to go up and over the T&G building). I kind of like what looks to be a balcony up the top.

And I was also of the opinion that the parts of the podium facade of T&G look to be earmarked for reworking.

I'm not sure the space in between this building and myer centre will actually change very much - vehicles still have to be able to get to the myer centre delivery tunnel. Just looks like they'll put the new tiles down, and maybe a couple of trees.

With regard to the Brisbane Square project - I'm interested in the building just as much if not more then the public space below! ;-)

looks like tokyo or hong kong

looks like tokyo or hong kong

Agreed, One thing about Brisbane and it may be just personal but its whats happening on the ground and some of the lower rise buildings that have me excited.

Its all about interactions with the street.

jt

not bad, pity about the peice of shit behind it in the pic, bulldozer time i say

Anything On This One?

Prime Site in the Courier Mail today reports that demolition of the old cinema building will start on Monday.

yay. More shops :D

It kinda looks like the Mitchell Centre in Darwin (The Back Tower) or is that T&G.

it is T&G lol

Okay, My mistake. It looks Impressive though (175 Albert). So is it like a Shopping Centre and Commercial Building.

I wonder what tenants there will be in the Shopping part as theres the Myer centre right across the road and then theres Queen Central and then Wintergarden, Broadway and a whole heap of Arcades down Queen Street. And let me guess, the food court is going to have a McDonalds. The last time I was down there, I was kind of amazed by the amount of McDonalds down the whole Strip (2 in Myer, 1 in Wintergarden, 1 in Broadway, then one next down the road to King George Square and the Transit Centre and I think there was one a near Macarthur or Inside. That pratically is the Amount of McDonalds we have in Townsville (6).

yep. Even more shops for the CBD.
Its like a shopping mecca in there lol.

Open Sundays which will be good too I suppose.

What they need is 24/7 shopping.

or at least like 8-10 7 days a week.

Or maybe a Supermarket Size 7-11 store somewhere with a couple of Extra Shops and a Department store and they will also be open 7-11 7 days a week.

What was the older design? Any render? How many floors was it? etc etc.

I would ask Blend. Infact what was the original design. Sorry for Mimicking.

http://www.mldesign.com.au/what/images/twa_com04_b01.jpg

http://www.mldesign.com.au/what/images/twa_com04_b02.jpg

http://www.mldesign.com.au/what/images/twa_com04_b04.jpg

That looks way better than the other one, except it looks like it has no shops incorporated into the design. Maybe a couple more.

McDonalds in the Brisbane CBD:
-Central Station
-Myer Centre (2)
-Broadway
-Wintergarden
-Eagle Street
-Transit Centre
(Note: The store in the old Queen Street central site closed and moved to the transit centre. Store on Albert Street closed - possibly moving into Queens Plaza?)

Also work has started on the Myer redevelopment in the Myer Centre. This is expected to take 6 months. It will be mirrored off the Bondi Junction store.

i hate them for closing the one going from Queen st to Elizabeth.

That was by far the best mcdonalds.

And its now a empty space, boarded up on the Elizabeth st side next to suchi station and daily planet.. and some crap small beauty shop looks to be nearly finished on the mall side. (It is so tiny, what a waste of space)

So they shut it down (Albert street). I reckon that was the best of them all as well. But it was a bit weird putting it Underground though as you had to walk one story down as you're at it. I sat down there and had lunch while my Brother went and had a look at a Clothing shop called Skunkwear I think it was which sold like Gangsta gear and crap which even as an Indigenious youth, i'm not into.

it is T&G lol

I was under the impression that this was NOT the T&G building, but rather the site next to T&G, where the old cinemas are? On the corner of albert and elizabeth? Where as T&G is albert and queen...

i was reffering to the fact that the building behind this one in the render was t&g

i was reffering to the fact that the building behind this one in the render was t&g

So you were - stoopid me! Sorry...

I just drove by and noticed that demolition has started on this site. The building on Elizabeth St next to Hoyts is now a pile of rubble!

Demolition on this site has continued, with the hoyts cinema's coming down - but I think the NAB branch is still there - does anyone know if it's still open? Has anything actually been approved for the site yet??

So its has started, cool.

What's happening here now?

I found this:

http://www.a-r-m.com.au/media/ARM%20CV_commercial.pdf

Is the national australia bank building going down? The image in the pdf shows the corner without this building. I can't find much info on what's going to be in this building.

Walked past the site today and they had something that looked like a pile driving machine maybe working.

ARM does some pretty crazy stuff, most of which I like. What material do you reckon the stuff down the side is - looks like metal grating.
At first I found myself thinking that "LOGO" was part of the design :) - anyone know who will have signage rights?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v376/Oriolus/175Albert.jpg

The link ot the 'old' design is broken...

Anyone save it?

ARM does some pretty crazy stuff, most of which I like. What material do you reckon the stuff down the side is - looks like metal grating.
At first I found myself thinking that "LOGO" was part of the design :) - anyone know who will have signage rights?



yeah, it does look like lego :jk:

No, It looks great. I wonder if that redesign of the mall will be going with it.
How many stories is this supposed to be? It'll be a great filler, none the less.

How many stories is this supposed to be? It'll be a great filler, none the less.
11 stories.I had a search on Emporis/ss.com and nothing came up under "175 Albert St" (unless it's going by a different name there). It would certainly qualify as it is clearly over 35m in height.

**BTW Is this project opposite The Myer Centre and situated where the older Greater Union cinemas used to be?

...

^ Yes, right beside the T&G Building.

The NAB next door - when will this be demolished, any news?

Of course it will. Look at the render :p

None of the original building remains

The NAB next door seems to still be in full swing - i haven't seen any signs outside say 'this branch will be closing/moving' > although I haven't been up really close, and it's probably not the kind of thing a bank would want to advertise...

The below pdf link that SteV posted on the previous page won't seem to load for me and just gets stuck on my hourglass waiting, and I've tried numerous times. Anyone else having the same problem?

I found this:

http://www.a-r-m.com.au/media/ARM%20CV_commercial.pdf

It loaded for me. Its a 2.98 MB file.

Let it load. Also the first page is blank.. so if ur PDF screen opens and u see white, just scroll down.

wow. I didnt realise they were going to be actually doing up the whole base level of T&G as well...


Its actually funny. A big brown building with a pastil pink base facade.

the best thing they could do for the T&G building is pull the bastard down!

no. The best thing would be a 'Gotham City' job.

If they rip it down, we wont get a replacement that tall.

Here's the article for people having trouble with the pdf. The name they've given it is interesting - Queen & Albert is of course the T&G corner, not the corner the building is acutally on.

The Queen and Albert, Brisbane
The Queensland Investment Corporation has chosen ARM in conjunction with Arkhefield as architects to redevelop 175 Albert Street in Brisbane. The Queen and Albert Street corner of the site is arguably the highest value retail space in Queensland.
The Albert Street frontage offers significant potential to capitalise on the emerging after-hours/youth market, which is developing in this precinct. In addition, Albert Street plays a pivotal role in city planning which includes the provision of a key spine from King George Square to the Botanical Gardens. The numerous residential high-rise developments planned or underway further down Albert Street serve to strengthen the importance of this spine. The scheme realises that shopping has become a basic aspect of our existence, shaping our buildings, cities, spaces, activities and lives.
Our strategy is to focus on different types of stores and retailers to match the new urban fabric, incorporating a network of new city lanes and arcades. Q&A is proposed as the retail centre for youthful urbane Brisbanites, different to any shopping centre in Queensland. A potential for: small edgy fashion and design orientated retailers; a wellbeing centre, sports and lifestyle stores; slick new nightspots, club lounges and bars; cafes, contemporary Asian diners and street eats.

Does anyone know if this has actually been approved yet?

Im going to say it has... since theyve been demolishing and so on for quite a while.
And they dont usually do that unless theyve been approved.

I better not make any suburban mall comments in regard to the Queen & Albert retail reference/s in the article Oriolus posted!! Yikes http://web.gay.hr/smilies/scared.gif

*runs for cover* ;)

BTW Thanks for posting that Oriolus :okay:

lol Muse.
What the hell is a "wellbeing centre" - some hip, funky name for a doctors surgery perhaps :D

Im going to say it has... since theyve been demolishing and so on for quite a while.
And they dont usually do that unless theyve been approved.
Yeh, that's what I thought. In which case did anyone go and look at the development application to see what height this is - over 35m no doubt.

Judging by the T&G Building id put it betwen 40-50

unless the render is Inaccurate.

T&G Is 88m.
The render makes 175 Albert look like 50-60.. But that seems far fetched so 40-50 is good for me.

I better not make any suburban mall comments in regard to the Queen & Albert retail reference/s in the article Oriolus posted!! Yikes http://web.gay.hr/smilies/scared.gif

*runs for cover* ;)

BTW Thanks for posting that Oriolus :okay:

Very Smart.

^ Indeed. Have to keep a sense of humour newby.

Small but gives an indication of T&G's pink lattice work base (best i could do and the original image on the arm pdf site posted above isn't the clearest).

_________________http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/Muse11/qaretailbris1.jpg

i dont have the slightest idea how you managed to make that look so crap lol. (not an insult btw, just confused as to how you drained do much quality from it)

This is taken from the PDF:
http://img276.echo.cx/img276/822/175alberttg9xl.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

Oh it looks sensational daaaaarling.

Xennox Diamond World is holding a relocation sale.

that looks a lil spacey to me. dont know if i like it.

Noticed the other day that National has closed, that building looks like its now empty so hopefully this one will be starting soon.

Noticed the other day that National has closed, that building looks like its now empty so hopefully this one will be starting soon.

Yeah, they moved over the road to where ANZ used to be - after ANZ moved to where Suncorp used to be in the mall - after Suncorp moved to new premesis in QAB. What's with the banks following each other lol.

Some more info and pics on this very exciting project.
source: http://www.a-r-m.com.au/project.php?projectID=17&categoryID=2
Brisbane Central
Year Designed: 2002
Client: Queensland Investment Corporation
Location: Brisbane, QLD

The Queensland Investment Corporation has chosen ARM in conjunction with Arkhefield as architects to redevelop 175 Albert Street in Brisbane.
The Queen and Albert Street corner of the site is arguably the highest value retail space in Queensland.

The Albert Street frontage offers significant potential to capitalise on the emerging after-hours/youth market, which is developing in this precinct. In addition, Albert Street plays a pivotal role in city planning which includes the provision of a key spine from King George Square to the Botanical Gardens. The numerous residential high-rise developments planned or underway further down Albert Street serve to strengthen the importance of this spine.

The scheme realises that shopping has become a basic aspect of our existence, shaping our buildings, cities, spaces, activities and lives. Our strategy is to focus on different types of stores and retailers to match the new urban fabric, incorporating a network of new city lanes and arcades.

Brisbane Central is proposed as the retail centre for youthful urbane Brisbanites, different to any shopping centre in Queensland. A potential for: small edgy fashion and design orientated retailers; a wellbeing centre, sports and lifestyle stores; slick new nightspots, club lounges and bars; cafes, contemporary Asian diner

http://www.a-r-m.com.au/images/projects/17/photos/briscentral_corner.jpg
http://www.a-r-m.com.au/images/projects/17/photos/briscentral_entrance.jpg
http://www.a-r-m.com.au/images/projects/17/photos/briscentral_night.jpg
http://www.a-r-m.com.au/images/projects/17/photos/briscentral_front.jpg
http://www.a-r-m.com.au/images/projects/17/photos/briscentral_walkway.jpg

^^
Wow great find!!

sensational. QSM will ultimately be unrivaled from anywhere else in the country with the completion of this. and more nightclubs is always a bonus :cheers:

this added with the emergence of Albert St on the western side (bus tunnel removed) will make the QSM 100% completed.

So when's completion due for this?

Is this the Jo Jo's building?

No this is the old cinemas and National Bank Building site on the corner of Albert and Elizabeth, diagonally opposite Borders Books.

So it's called Brisbane Central - not very imaginative. It's a little shorter than the last proposal to bear this name :)

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid112/p0daba9d50ff730f7c9295d258c70728d/f8fb7ee5.jpg

....

As a side note to that particular area there is a DA application in council at the moment for a giant TV LCD screen at the corner of Queen and Albert. It will if approved be mounted on the corner of Jo Jo's restaurant looking into the centre of things.

Should be good!!

Anyway back to Brisbane Central - will be nice when that is developed.

Think its got lotsa potential... lookin forward to it. Bring on the funk!

They've being doing quite a bit on site. Haven't got a close look, but it seems they're doing earthmoving and preparing the site to lay foundations. I'm glad T & G is going to get an upgrade out of this.

Is it just me or does anyone else have trouble fitting the third render into this develoment? I can't see where this would be...

nm wrong image..

Maybe its a different render who knows

Oriolus how long ago was that prosposal from the newspaper from?

Oriolus how long ago was that prosposal from the newspaper from?Not sure of the date of that clipping but it was around 1989 when that Brisbane Central was proposed (and actually began construction) - at 445m it would have been the tallest building in the world. For heaps more info check out this thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=146639)

ok cheers, i cant believe they actually started construction on it:O Now a 7 storey building stands in its place lol

Ok, I need to know if this is going ahead? if so then when this is starting? when this is finishing? people have seemed to have gone a bit quite on this one...

Its already started, have you not been by the site?

Yeah, i go all the time but there are no cranes, bulldozers, workers anything! its just a wall around the site...

Ok, I need to know if this is going ahead? if so then when this is starting? when this is finishing? people have seemed to have gone a bit quite on this one...

The actual building has likely got approval, however either they have changed the basement plans or approval was never gotten for excavations and the rest (similar to Evolution). There submission were made a few weeks ago on these issues, but until they get approval for them they probably can't do much.

so which is the actual design?
is it image 1 (http://www.a-r-m.com.au/images/projects/17/photos/briscentral_overview.jpg)
or is it..image 2 (http://www.a-r-m.com.au/images/projects/17/photos/briscentral_night.jpg)

^
I'd say number 1 as the current modifications almost complete on the mall along Albert street are relatively consistent with that render, which can be seen more clearly below, and there seem to be more renders showing that design.

http://www.a-r-m.com.au/images/projects/17/photos/briscentral_corner.jpg

^
I'd say number 1 as the current modifications almost complete on the mall along Albert street are relatively consistent with that render, which can be seen more clearly below, and there seem to be more renders showing that design.

http://www.a-r-m.com.au/images/projects/17/photos/briscentral_corner.jpg


that's a pity, i like the other design better. However, as long as this buildings layout and design complements the retail area, it will be a successfull building.
And is it just me, or am I right that albert street in that render is much more flat (not as sloped) as it actually is?

pics of the site
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/8513/p30701339in.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7048/p30701352xn.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

just found this recent article (dated Feb 17, 2006) shows a different design!
http://www.apr.com.au/uploads/140elizabeth.gif

QIC begins leasing for Brisbane projects

By Stephen Naylor
Feb 17, 2006

QIC Real Estate has commenced the leasing phase for two proposed Brisbane CBD commercial office towers, capitalising on the current low supply of A grade commercial office developments in Brisbane.

The two projects are at 140 Elizabeth Street and Central Plaza 3 at 70-80 Eagle Street.

The 140 Elizabeth Street development proposes an 11 storey office tower comprising 10,000 sqm of commercial space. Jones Lang LaSalle and PRDNationwide have been appointed as joint leasing agents for the project.

The leasing campaign for Central Plaza 3 will be co-ordinated by Jones Lang LaSalle and Ray White Asset Leasing. The plan is for a 14 storey office tower comprising 11,000 sqm of space.

QIC Real Estate is also planning to construct 9500 sqm of premium retail as part of the Elizabeth Street tower. The retail component will have frontages to the Queen and Albert Street Malls.

The retail component will comprise the ground floor and levels 1 and 2 of the building. The development will also provide intersecting pedestrian links between Queen, Albert and Elizabeth Streets.

QIC Real Estate General Manager, Mr Laurie Brindle, said tenancy interest in both developments was expected to be high, following confirmation that Brisbane has one of the lowest commercial vacancy rates of any capital city in Australia.

The Property Council of Australia's Office Market Report released earlier this month found Brisbane CBD vacancy rates fell further from 3.9% to 3.5% in the six months to January 2006. In addition, A grade property vacancies are at an all time low 1.1% vacancy level.

"Given the predicted low supply of quality office space in 2008 QIC Real Estate is confident of securing commitment from suitable tenants over the next few months," Mr Brindle said.

"Both developments are in prime CBD locations and we believe are poised to capitalise on the lack of A grade properties available."

http://www.apr.com.au/publish/article_2738.shtml

That looks farken awesome!

Certainly looks different. I wondering if they're still planning on upgrading the base of T&G: I don't think the pink they were originally goinging for would go well with this building.

On first look, seems to have been dumbed-down but it may turn out smarter than the other. The newer facade is playing more subtle tricks on our eyes, teasing and taunting us lol

Yeah, drop the 80s flouro colours guys. Needs more high-tech signage etc so maybe the way to go for this one.

Looks great! and on the bottom 3 floors it looks similar to Queens Plaza! I think this will be a significant project for the CBD... it may even rival Vision Plaza???

^
The area of specialty retail in Brisbane Central should be of similar size to that of Queens Plaza (9,000sqm v 8,700sqm).

Looks great! and on the bottom 3 floors it looks similar to Queens Plaza! i hope it has 3 floors or retail...

according to this article, it should have the three flours of retail you desire.. :)

The retail component will comprise the ground floor and levels 1 and 2 of the building. The development will also provide intersecting pedestrian links between Queen, Albert and Elizabeth Streets.

That pedistrian link between Queen, Albert and Elizabeth Streets sounds interesting....obviously trying to emulate Melbourne's suave, pedestrian only, little side streets lined with funky shops and cafes.

btw, is that retail area you gave Orfeo of 9000sqm for QP include david jones? because if it does BC will be a fairly large centre with many shops without the large area occupying tenant of DJ's.

^
The 8,700sqm of specialty retail in state 1 QP doesn't include David Jones.

That pedistrian link between Queen, Albert and Elizabeth Streets sounds interesting....obviously trying to emulate Melbourne's suave, pedestrian only, little side streets lined with funky shops and cafes.

I don't think they're talking about adding any lanes, just the ability to access the building from all 3 streets, with direct entrances off Albert & Elizabeth and a connection through the T&G building for Queen Street.

The pedestrian link is just the re-doing of the Albert St part of the Mall isnt it? I was under the impression that Brisbane Central, the T & G refurb and the removal of the old Info Centre and Toilets part of the same project.

They've already been working on improving Albert. St

there's some new street art as it seems going up in fenced-off section.

just found this recent article (dated Feb 17, 2006) shows a different design!
http://www.apr.com.au/uploads/140elizabeth.gif

QIC begins leasing for Brisbane projects


That's the design they have got on the barricades fencing off the site. I hope it is this design and not the one's posted previously!!

That's the design they have got on the barricades fencing off the site. I hope it is this design and not the one's posted previously!!

Ahhh really!! that's a good sign! a very good sign because they wouldn't display the design to the public unless it is THE design...

Perhaps they are turning the walls of the design to be one big tv screen?

Perhaps they are turning the walls of the design to be one big tv screen?

that would be good! but highly unlikely... :)

bump.....
anyone got any new news of this development?
Has construction begun yet? any photos anyone?

No construction yet, just signs and photos on the site fencing.

The address of the building is now given as 140 Elizabeth Street. Given the state of Albert Street, with its one way section and blocked off section, they probably figured that an Elizabeth Street address would make it a lot easier for people to find.

Plans have now been uploaded, but we warned they are 40MB. link (http://www.ourbrisbane.com/public/DAServlet/943908?pagenumber=2)

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1405/albert17nw.jpg

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/5436/albert33qw.jpg

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/9016/albert58vj.jpg

The height to structural peak is 54.4m (=60.5-6.1m).

The podium of T&G will have undergoing an upgrade, but it will no longer be so....pink

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/3480/albert28dg.jpg

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/161/albert40qg.jpg

140 Elizabeth Street

According to the DA the development is still known as 175 Albert Street, however the upgrade of T&G is 141 Albert Street.

Ok the new renders are good but that black and white plan still shows the old one lol

The bottom of T&G looks so much better then the 'Pink' one!!!

Looks good!
Do some of those retail tenants have internal stair cases - so same retail tenant over 2 levels?
And i still don't get that "LoGo" signage at the top of the new building...is that the sign actually going on...or is it a place where a company will "insert logo here" sort of thing?

lol its clearly where whoever has naming rights will put a neon sign

a neon sign

YES!!! :pepper:

THere are some more images on the arkhefield site... link--> http://www.arkhefield.com.au/ Just navigate into the commercial section. Sorry the images are not linkable to here.

bit of news....noticed in passing the other day all the retail tenants at base of T&G building are packing up and leaving with "closing down/relocation sales"....should we be expecting major works starting soon? has it all been approved in council yet?

Is is just me or do other people think that the new toilet / public artwork in the centre of the mall looks shocking - it's pretty much a block of concrete when you're looking at it from the middle of the mall.

^^ yeah it is pretty unimaginative

yeah... i dont like it...

I think it looks great

Errrrrr, could have been better...

I agree. For the amount of time they took on it - it's shocking. It's not even in-line with the other modern architecture in the mall - very poor effort in my opinion.

Is it finished? Cos it doesnt look finished to me.

I agree. For the amount of time they took on it - it's shocking. It's not even in-line with the other modern architecture in the mall - very poor effort in my opinion.

I agree it's poor but the "other architecture" of the mall is pretty bad too. In my opinion ARM are a pack of charlatans. They do pretty standard buildings dressed up in "chaos" bunting and then pass it off as cutting edge architecture. The National Museum in Canberra is the best example - looks suspiciously similar to their failed proposal for Fed Square in Melbourne.

The rest of the Mall is well designed...

This is actually literally a block of concrete.

Looks like construction has started...well they're digging quite a deep hole anyway

Really!! Cool! I'm so excited!! :banana:

Top level of Borders bookshop is a good vantage point.

Looks like construction has started...well they're digging quite a deep hole anyway

If i read the plan correctly there is an underground carpark, so you can expect quite a large hole.

^
yes, 6 basement levels so it will take awhile to dig.

The original design has been approved (and hence U/C) but there is a DA around for a slight change. Not very different at all. This is such a cool building. Here's the Pic's:
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/BrisbaneCentral3.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/BrisbaneCentral1.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/BrisbaneCentral2.jpg

^^ I agree! Fantastic building!

Whats the constuction time frame of a building this type/size. Shouldn't be too long? although, queens plaza is only slightly larger, and that took forever!

ive edited thread title . it just misses out at 54.4m for monthly diagrams. also it wasnt even on emporis, so its now added.
cheers

I've heard it referred to as Q&A (Queen & Albert)

^^ Welcome Accurate..cool name!

got some snaps of the construction from boarders...

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i16/soulvisionQ1/Image14.jpg
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i16/soulvisionQ1/Image15-1.jpg

^^ Welcome Accurate..cool name!

got some snaps of the construction from boarders...

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i16/soulvisionQ1/Image14.jpg
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i16/soulvisionQ1/Image15-1.jpg


yes, welcome Accurate....i just joined last week but i dont recall a welcome message.... :cry:

^^ Lol!! Some forumers just can't be bothered because so many join up... I on the other hand welcome all SEQ members... :) but just kinda forgot about you... :runaway:

But just for you brissieroy!! :applause: :hug: :hug: :applause: Welcome!! BTW did you make your avatar?

^^ Lol!! Some forumers just can't be bothered because so many join up... I on the other hand welcome all SEQ members... :) but just kinda forgot about you... :runaway:

But just for you brissieroy!! :applause: :hug: :hug: :applause: Welcome!! BTW did you make your avatar?


lol...SoulvisionQ1...just kidding!!!! but thanks anyway.....all good

nah, my avatar was just one of the standard ones i selected when i joined...... :) :)

lol...SoulvisionQ1...just kidding!!!! but thanks anyway.....all good

nah, my avatar was just one of the standard ones i selected when i joined...... :) :)


Hehe... that is the avatar that I made for myself about 2 or 3 years ago. See Brizbane 2 = B2. Thought I was pretty nifty to make a gif like that. That was in the days when everyone (who was anyone) had an animated gif as their avatar.

Cant believe its still kicking around here..

Hehe... that is the avatar that I made for myself about 2 or 3 years ago. See Brizbane 2 = B2. Thought I was pretty nifty to make a gif like that. That was in the days when everyone (who was anyone) had an animated gif as their avatar.

Cant believe its still kicking around here..

well there you go :applause: you are nifty and yeah, its still there so it must be good.
BTW, i really like your current avatar. Did you do that one yourself as well?? :cool: :applause:

well there you go :applause: you are nifty and yeah, its still there so it must be good.
BTW, i really like your current avatar. Did you do that one yourself as well?? :cool: :applause:

Yep, made this current one too

Nice to be onboard....thx for the welcome(s).

Hey I'm having a little trouble posting pic's...I've reviewed FAQ's...no help. Any tips?

^^Use

www.photobucket.com

sign up for free then upload your image, then put [IMG] at the start and the end... happy posting!

thx

this image appears to be a newy?

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i201/Accurate_2006/70d56d9e.jpg

Not too bad a design ay.

I quite like it.

Love the wet paper look of the light grey!!

Ads in the Courier Mail tenders section today indicate that Leighton, Watpac and Barclay Mowlem are all tendering for Brisbane Central.

Love the wet paper look of the light grey!!

Yeh, I like the grey on black...looks really modern .....it appears to be an innovative way to sunshade the facade........steel fins by the look.

Wondering if they cld do same with Brisbane's ugliest building - the old T&G.

Just clearing rubble when i took my snap on the 29th of June 2006.

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/6629/10018467cw.jpg
It even includes a working pedestrian.

Enjoy.

They currently appear to be drilling ground anchors beneath Albert Street

Yeah, they had pilling machines there last night.

Couple of pics
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/1067/p7200102ls3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4950/p7200104xb9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I think it's interesting that on the site of the old Brisbane Central there is a lowrise, and now the building that has its name is 12 storey's!!!

Taken today. Piling work still underway.

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l228/johnthay/IMG_1279.jpg

I think it's interesting that on the site of the old Brisbane Central there is a lowrise, and now the building that has its name is 12 storey's!!!

LoL!!! :cheers:

Brisbane Central is the working name.

The development has several names: 141 Queen St for existing tower; 140 Elizabeth St for new tower; and Q&A for the three level retail component. So basically Q&A has two towers above it: one old & one new and a six level below the new tower site - that is what the are excavating at the moment.

IMG]http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i201/Accurate_2006/AlbertStreetImage.jpg[/IMG]

Any word on tenants upon completion?

Repost of Auccurate's pic

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i201/Accurate_2006/AlbertStreetImage.jpg

Construction pics:

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/IMGP0289.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/IMGP0290.jpg

taking their sweet time just to dig the hole!

^^That's what I thought!!

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o2/jackb05/21-01-07/BC-2.jpghttp://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o2/jackb05/21-01-07/BC-1.jpg

Can't believe how deep this hole is getting. :)

SOURCE (http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,21311665-5011140,00.html)

From the Courier Mail, 1/3/07

THE Australian Taxation Office has managed to snare an entire building in the Brisbane CBD, as the city faces one of the tightest office markets ever.

It will lease 10,000sq m in QIC Real Estate's tower which is currently under construction at
140 Elizabeth St.

The ATO will lease the space for 15 years. While leasing rates have not been revealed, industry sources say a building of that nature would attract in the early $500/sq m.

It is hoped construction of the A-grade building, which is being built on the former site of a National Australia Bank, will be finished mid-way through next year.

QIC Real Estate head of global real estate Laurie Brindle said in a statement that the development was well positioned to offer the ATO staff and clients easy access to public transport and facilities.

The lease is a continuation of the relationship between the two groups. The ATO currently leases space in QIC Real Estate's Central Plaza One building in Queen Street.

The ATO has also precommitted to space in two buildings QIC Real Estate is developing in Canberra.

Mr Brindle said the Canberra deal had given QIC an insight into the needs of the ATO and this would be put to use in the Elizabeth Street property.

"We will be working closely with the ATO to accommodate the tenant's specific requirements," he said.

Mr Brindle said QIC Real Estate had recognised there was a shortage of A-grade space in the CBD and made a strategic decision to develop the Elizabeth Street property.

The building will be linked to an existing tower at 141 Queen St, through an 8000sq m retail precinct which will front the Queen and Albert Street malls and Elizabeth Street.

The three-level retail area will be known as Q&A

The hole is much deeper now than given in the above photo.

Hole will be around 21-22m deep..

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o2/jackb05/04-03-07/DSC00850.jpg
And here's the proof.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o2/jackb05/04-03-07/DSC00851.jpg

The hole is so deep that the bottom can't be seen from Borders Book Shop anymore!!

The hole is so deep that the bottom can't be seen from Borders Book Shop anymore!!

Maybe they intend building the whole 12 stories underground with greenspace on top!:)

Construction Update:

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/Construction%20update%2030%20Mar%202007/Imgp0165.jpg

KJ, we must have been following each other around today. Yours is much better, wow this goes down a long way

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/2967/p3210040fs2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

hey ive always wondered why theres that interesting arch and staircase mark on the building next door? can anyone explain?

KJ, we must have been following each other around today. Yours is much better, wow this goes down a long way

Did you happen to be near Aurora between 2 and 2:30pm yesterday (Friday)?

I was around the Queen St mall at 2.22 (from the SGIO clock on one of my pics), so would have been around Aurora about 1.45pm. I was the guy in a bright red billabong shirt looking like an overly keen tourist with my camera.

I think the marks on the wall are part of the Regent Theatre balconys. This picture is from 1976, text is from the State Library website.

http://enc.slq.qld.gov.au/slq/neg/preview/055000/55316p.jpg

The Regent Theatre, situated in the Regent Building, was erected in 1929 and opened on 8 November. The building was used as a theatre and cinema. The shape of the block with its narrow frontage to Queen Street, determined the theatre's plan. The Queen Street block comprised the entrance foyer, while the auditorium was constructed on the broad part of the site in Elizabeth Street. The theatre was designed by Charles N. Hollinshed (the Regent's Melbourne-based architect), Richard Gailey junior, of Brisbane, and Aaron Bolot (employed by Gailey). This theatre was one of four Regent Theatres built in Australia during the 1920s. Formerly known as picture palaces, these theatres reflected the opulence and grandeur of the Hollywood era. (Information taken from: Environmental Protection Agency/Queensland Parks and Wildlife Service heritage register, retrieved 16 May 2005, from http://www.epa.qld.gov.au/projects/heritage/index)

^^That photo would be the Albert street side I'm guessing.

I'm pretty sure it was you that I saw, don't remember the exact time I was there though.

I think Vision will finish before this ******** at the rate its going.

What is it with all of these words suddenly being turned into *******s

^^ A pril F ools by the M oderators

^^ A pril F ools by the M oderators
:sleepy: gee...

Looks like it's hit the bottom (5 floors basement)should see concrete slabs very soon:banana:

Taken yesterday

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/8876/p4010074mq9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2232/p4010075zt3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

The design is for a 6 level basement with a deep lift overrun and ramp running under the 141 Queen St building at level B2.

The excavation is essentially at level B5 at this time. They hit Lvl B6 this week, and moved the stair scaffold over to this area (Albert/ Elizabeth cnr) this morning.

The Queen street side is still at level B5, probably due to the hard rock. They haven't sprayed any of the B5 shotcrete yet. The access corner is still up at Level B3! They have a fair while to go yet!

A very slow dig indeed!

***Big News***

The owner of that building (The Mayne Estate) and the owner of the Hilton (ISPT) are planning a joint 50,000sqm tower (with 2000sqm floors) that will result in the demolition of the historic Regent and construction of a tower that covers that site and the neighbouring site (up to the Hilton). Heard that Multiplex have been appointed to build it by end 2010.

Thought it was impossible to demolish the Regent - bit sad actually.

***Big News***

The owner of that building (The Mayne Estate) and the owner of the Hilton (ISPT) are planning a joint 50,000sqm tower (with 2000sqm floors) that will result in the demolition of the historic Regent and construction of a tower that covers that site and the neighbouring site (up to the Hilton). Heard that Multiplex have been appointed to build it by end 2010.

Thought it was impossible to demolish the Regent - bit sad actually.

They would definately keep the facade and most probably definately keep the sign at the fron of the Regent. I would have also thought the internals would have been Heritage listed. If this is the case I would not be happy at all!!!

Otherwise it sounds intreging!

Apparently it is only the entry arcade off Queen Street (up to the internal marble staircase) that is protected.

That big box with the old arches on the side and the ornate work on the back (with Regent sign) fronting Elizabeth Street ie where Sushi Station sits below is not listed and is getting pulverised!

That's fine then....The entrance way and the Queen Street side I think is the only original, and if there are some other original pieces, they are not very obvious and is totally outweighed by the crap that surrounds it!!


Accurate...you might want to start a new thread about this rather than filling this thread up with another buildings matters.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/18%2005%202007/Imgp0272.jpg

Is it just me? But it looks like they have piled a whole load of dirt back into the hole again.

That is one deep looking hole - a little bit more and it would be almost as deep as Queens Plaza...

They've begun re-facading the podium areas of the T&G building. I'm eagerly anticipating Brisbane Central to shoot up, it will add so much to Brisbane's retail precinct here. Can I ask anyone in the know, that great facade effect they're planning, is that just metal blades bent in different angles to achieve that rippled look, or is the facade covered by LED signage?

anyone got pics of this and the next door development at the moment?

There were a shite load of truckes bringing in dirt last night around 1am. Yes I had after work drinks, love Friday.

doesnt it defeat the purpose of working outside of normal hours, when you do it on a friday night in the city?

haha. There is just as much traffic at night!

^^
What? I didn't understand any of that.

it makes perfect sense. read it again brizzychris.

Tell me a story danubis.

^^
What? I didn't understand any of that.

He means why would they bring in all the trucks very late on a Friday night, (outside of normal 9-5 working hours), when the city is packed with all of the Friday night party crowd, and possibly just as busy.

Not to mention that the crowd you would get would be intoxicated. More risky.

I'd imagine residents across the street might not like the idea of after hours work.

He means why would they bring in all the trucks very late on a Friday night, (outside of normal 9-5 working hours), when the city is packed with all of the Friday night party crowd, and possibly just as busy.

Ahhhhh. Ok, now I get it.

They had excavated down to the lowest basement, Lvl B6 by around May this year. Since then that have filled in the hole again! That's an awful lot of dirt they'd brought back in.

The have filled all the way up to Lvl B2 on Albert St and up to B1 along the side laneway. They have had 2 or 3 anchor rigs working away on the Regent side for a good month now. Thing is, the anchors were already put in on the way down. Are they re-doing the anchors ?

Why did they fill the hole in? Doesn't make sense - you don't excavate a basement twice normally! Something is wrong!

This thing will definitely not be finished by late 2008 as stated in all the press.

Couple anchors failed during testing or something, few other issues which probably shouldn't go into. But the dirt that went back in came from the tunnels they're boring around the place.

Like Central Plaza 3, this one has been nothing more than a massive hole for what feels like a year. I'd love this one to hurry up as it is much needed, and a very nice design.

Fri 31 Aug

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/7108/p8220104yp8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

So what's the go here? They don't seem to be starting to build the basement.

It's actually half filled in!

Yeah saw it the other day, almost dirt back to street level at some parts. Major fuck up methinks.

redrilling the anchors under the regent, ground shifted a bit so i guess no chances being taken.

Looking good. Love the refurb to the bottom of the T&G. Looked like they were putting in new anchors today. Not too sure though.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/11092007.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/KJBrissy/11092007001.jpg

Anyone know if the upper levels of T & G will cop a facelift?

Right now it looks a bit weird with the fancy new podium and a poo-brown 70's tower section above it.

No it isn't, although you don't really notice the tower unless you are a skyscraper freak like us or you are standing a distance away. Then they look like separate buildings.

Just a way to save money.

Freak? Moi?

It's still pretty obvious as you walk down the mall though. Considering it's such a high foot-traffic area as well as a tourist spot, it'd be nice to get it re-clad so it either stands out as something architecturally interesting or fades into the background of the heritage facades further down the mall.

^
Unfortunately not how those people think...

Nice as the the base reclad is, it doesn't compare to the old T&G

http://www.slv.vic.gov.au/pictoria/b/1/2/im/b12650.jpg

*Sigh*

Once the awning goes on it'll get hidden a bit more - there's worse buildings around so just be satisfied with a minor podium level refit.

The silver around the base of the T&G is digusting.

The silver around the base of the T&G is digusting.As opposed to the rest of it?

I love the base. A great change.

The silver around the base of the T&G is digusting.

Yeah I'm not a big fan either... but it's not quite finished yet, so maybe it will look better when everything is done.

^^ I was thinking the same, but I'm not holding my breath. Whatever horrendous aluminium cladding they've used is probably going to remain garishly bright (and tacky) for quite some time. Fingers crossed the other cladding can take the focus off what currently looks like aluminium foil :ohno:

Yup, I agree, unfortunately. And walking up Albert St from KGS it looks ridiculous - like an old turd in a base of alfoil.

Look at the renders.... That alunimium is the undercasing where either a red or yellow hue will be placed. Either way, I think the new facade looks quite good, even though it isn't finished yet. Hopefully they can get their acts together with Brisbane Central itself now, as I really can't wait to see that stressed metal fin look in the flesh.

Look at the renders.... That alunimium is the undercasing where either a red or yellow hue will be placed. Either way, I think the new facade looks quite good, even though it isn't finished yet. Hopefully they can get their acts together with Brisbane Central itself now, as I really can't wait to see that stressed metal fin look in the flesh.

^^ Depends on which renders you look at. I had a feeling the renders on the A-R-M website are the earlier renders, with the ones on the Arkhefield website (and the ones that I'm fairly certain are up on site) the design that's actually being built...if this is the case, the Arkhefield renders show yellow, black and silver. Hopefully you're still right and the currently visible ultra-shiny silver is only the substrate, but I can't see why the aluminium would be pressed with patterns without the colours being applied in the same process.

The Aluminium has patterns on it? It appeared to be when I walked passed it last week that it was just an indented surface, no specific pattern, thus suggesting that it was the underbearing of an external cladding. Either way, this is a massive improvement, and should be seen as a positive step for what was a horrid building in one of the most prominant positions in Brisbane.

I hope you're right, but the renders look to have silver elements to me, and one render on the Arkhefield site even seems to show patterns...but maybe I've just been staring at this screen for too long ;)

i think the silver is staying - plus i see that the NAB is also moving in with signage already visable.

Goldish parts visible now, doesn't look as bad anymore IMHO.

Thought so. Silver was indeed undercladding. Will look great.

^^ The renders up on site show black, yellow (gold?) and silver - I can only hope -all- of the silver is going to be clad over with something less garish.

Looks like the hole is now a hole again..

Thought so. Silver was indeed undercladding. Will look great.

Actually the silver parts are still there, gold is additional. There is also now red on the albert st side too (un-coincidentally around the new NAB Branch). Looks like that element (the silver, gold and red bits) are pretty much finished (along with the NAB Branch). I don't think the silver is undercladding...

And to add to that, when I was walking past it today with some work mates, one of them said "That silver looks really good" - So evidently there are some people out there that do like it...

^^ I walked past it with friends last night, and 3 of them agreed (without any prompting from me!) that it looks like aluminium foil. I couldn't agree more. And I agree, the silver has to be staying, the jointwork is perfect, and I have yet to hear about a cladding system that requires a polished aluminium substrate.

^^^ it wasn't polished aluminium, well it didn't look like it to me. They use aluminium sheets often as an undercoat or undercladding at shopping centres (Toombul for instance). Anyway, this sounds interesting now. Does anyone have a picture? Silver or no silver, it sounds a great improvement. People will whinge about anything these days if it didn't have their stamp of approval on it.

The cladding looks like polished, embossed aluminium to me, which would be in keeping with the latest Arkhefield renders. Most aluminium cladding products (e.g. Alpolic) come with the final finish already applied to the aluminium substrate, and usually a protective layer that simply gets peeled off to reveal this finish. I imagine this has been the case with the newly revealed black and red elements, but I just can't imagine that they would put up a whole 2 or so stories of embossed aluminium panelling up, only to have to go over the whole building again to glue or bolt on another cladding. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense either in terms of the efficiency of construction or the mighty bottom dollar.

These kinds of aluminium claddings are incredibly resilient, which is fairly unfortunate if the bright silver is to stay - it won't age gracefully because it probably won't age much at all.

Anyways, I know it sounds like I just like to complain, but I'm actually a firm believer in credit where credit is due...and maybe it's because I'm fairly familiar with most of Arkhefields other work that I'm so disappointed by Brisbane Central, where it's quite obvious that ARM has flexed a few muscles and implemented some of their trademark tackiness (look up their Marion Centre if you want to see tackiness defined in built form).

What is so bad with the silver? Am I the only one here that loves the contrast?

I like the silver to. Better than garish colours.

Fri 19 Oct 2007

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6571/pa050068ey5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Walked past there last night - it's back to being one hell of a hole in the ground. At a guess I'd say it's around 40-50m deep.

You'd guess wrong, 6 basements at around 2.5-2.6m each.

They have now reached Lvl B6 in one corner, and at B5 for the rest. You can see the small number of shotcrete panels and anchors at B6 they first did back in late Apr-07 (just before the hole was filled in). It has taken them 7 months to get back to where they were before the anchors failed.

The lowest level of the basement, B6 is RL -14.03. Ground foyer is RL 5.66 so they basement is about 19.7m deep. Basement Floor to floor is 2850mm, (very high).

The top of the facade is RL 53.37. The top of the LMR is RL 58.90. The height of the building is 53.24m.

Rumour is that they are now targeting Mar-09 for completion. They should have the hole completely excavated prior to Christmas - unless it keeps on raining.

Has anyone noticed that they excavate through the night almost every night of the week. That's gotta cost someone some serious money!

It will cost them even more if they don't have the building ready for tenants on time/before the market becomes saturated.

didn't the ato already agree to take most or all of the building? is this lease still happening or do the delays stuff it up?

I don't mind it, looks smart, can't wait for the neighbour to rise up.

11.12.2007

http://users.tpg.com.au/cmr05e//141.jpg

That looks great. All they have to do now is fill a big hole......:nuts:

That shop on the corner would have to be THE most prominent spot in the QSM. Anyone know what is going there?

Well i know 3 mobile are moving in a few doors down - this mall is becoming very boring with the same shops all the way down it, 3 mobile already have 2 shops in the mall and now all three are on the same side. Don't get me started on Portmans.

And CUE :ohno:

I could find out, the red is obviously NAB.