http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Juni011-1.jpg

Facts about Drammen

- County capital of Buskerud County
- Located 40 km southwest of Oslo, where Drammenselva meets the fjord
- Population: 60.000 in municipality, approx 90.000 in metro
- Important road, railway and seaport juncture
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Oversikt1.jpg

Short history of Drammen:

Drammen was founded in 1811, when Bragernes, on the north shore of Drammenselva, was joined with Strømsø and Tangen on the south shore into one municipality. Over the years the city have incorporated more of the surrounding areas (Skoger (to the south) and Åssiden (to the west) and covers today an area of 137 square km.

The main industry was for many years paper production along the river as well as other mechanical, textile and manufacturing industries. (This the historical reason why Drammen still is below the national average education level). Especially the textile industry imported during the 1960s very many unskilled laborers from Turkey to work in their mills. Today, people of turkish decent is the biggest minority group in Drammen.

In this tread I will try to cover both current projects, give an overview over projects dating back to around 2000 (in the city center) and a broader overview of the ongoing city redevelopment (including Veipakke Drammen).

Project map:
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Drammen.jpg
Legend:
Blue: Current (June 2009) projects
- Hotel Tollboden expansion
- NAV Drammen
- Comfort Union Hotel
- Øvre Sund bridge

Yellow: Recently completed
- Hotel Globus (refurbishment)
- Bragernes Strand
- Union Brygge kvartal 10

Light green: Older projects
- Engene Park
- Høytorget terrasse
- Gamle Kirkeplass
- Ypsilon bridge
- Papirbredden
- Union Pollen-kvartalet
- NRK-bygget
- Marienlyst Park
- Bueslaget
- Husbanken HQ
- Zitty

Dark green: New parks/boardwalks
- Holmenokken
- Bragernes Elvepark
- Strømsø elvepromenade

Red: Planned projects
- Parking Garage Skistadbygget
- Offices Bragernes

Everyone is of course welcome to contribute with facts, projects I've missed and photos:)

Nice with a Drammen thread :) Whats happen to the plans for Sundland? I know that the stadium plans have been putten on ice, and the proposal for the area looked like , just another apartment surburb...

I took a quick look at the project website (http://romeiendom.no/article.php?articleID=21962&rootCategoryID=2245), and nothing have happened regarding Sundland and Gulskogen hageby in long time. The stadium was supposed to be the "locomotive" in the development...

This update is long overdue as the pictures are several weeks old by now...

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/DrammenUC.jpg

1. Hotell Tollboden expansion
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Tollboden02.jpg

I have no idea what the new part of the hotel will look like, but at least they have a towercrane...

2. NAV Drammen
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Nav.jpg

The building is toppet out by now. When completed, 300 people will work in this 11.000 sqm. building.

3. Comfort Union Hotel
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/ComfortUnion02.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/ComfortUnion03.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/ComfortUnion01.jpg

This 8 floor, 12.000 sqm hotel will have 144 rooms when completed later this year or early next year.

4. Øvre Sund Bru
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Sund01.jpg

Øvre Sund Bru is the city ring's missing link and will complete (some expansion from 2 to 4 lanes remains) the road system in the inner city.

Thanks for the update:okay:
Looks like Drammens city-development take a pretty urban direction, thats nice to see.

Thanks for the update:okay:
Looks like Drammens city-development take a pretty urban direction, thats nice to see.

There are lots of underutilized plots in the city center, so very much of the last year's development have been on plots earlier used as parking or abandoned industry.

Hope its ok that I contribute to the thread?


http://i1005.photobucket.com/albums/af172/mjoks007/nsb-skole.jpg
ROM Eiendom har inngått kontrakt med OKK Entreprenør AS om bygging av NSB- skolen på Sundland i Drammen.

Prosjektet er en totalentreprise. Byggets areal skal bli på 7.100 m2, fordelt på fem etasjer. NSB-skolen blir et lavenergibygg med planlagt tilført energi under 100 kwh/m2/år. Videre er det stor fokus på et godt innemiljø og universell utforming ved valg av løsninger.

- Dette er et meget utfordrende prosjekt å jobbe med. De strenge energikravene medfører spesielt strenge krav til valg av løsninger i prosjektering og utførelsen på byggeplass. Vi er svært glade for dette oppdraget, og ser frem til et godt og nært samarbeide med ROM Eiendom, sier Erling Langeland, Prosjektdirektør i OKK Entreprenør AS.

NSB-skolen, som er tegnet av Alt Arkitektur AS, har ansvaret for opplæring av alle konduktører og lokomotivførere i NSB. Mye av opplæringen vil foregår ved hjelp av praktisk trening med blant annet togsimulator som plasseres i bygget.


Arbeidene skal være ferdigstilt i juni 2010.

Strømsø bydel is to become a showcase for environmentally friendly city development.

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/strms.jpg
From today's Drammens Tidene (http://dt.no/article/20090817/NYHET/152495110/1063/NYHET): Drammen skal være med på den store by- og boligutstillingen. Utstillingen skal vise miljøvennlig og nyskapende arkitektur i full størrelse, og utstillingsområdet blir Strømsø hvor det skal bygges miljøvennlige bygg(...)

And the project for transforming Strømsø Torg (just south of Bybrua in that picture) was ofically launched today by the mayor. The project have a price tag of 100 million NOK.
Video http://dt.no/section/VIDEO/1216&id=7094

Some more info about Strømsø torg (mentioned in previous post)
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/StrmsTorg.jpg

Phase 1 is to be completed in time for Drammen's 200 year anniversary in 2011, and phase 2 in 2012

A few recent pictures
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/August466.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/August474-1.jpg

Nedre Torggate upgrade
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/nedrestorgate.jpg
Rendering from Steen & Lund
Nedre Torggate is the main pedestrian street in Drammen, and will be upgraded during 2009-2010
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/NedreStorgate02.jpg

Pictures:
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/August470.jpg

Current situation (after the trees were cut down)
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/August472-1.jpg

And...

The Airport Express train (Flytoget) have finally arrived in Drammen. From Sunday 30. August, their western terminus will be Drammen. The train will use around 60 minutes from Drammen to Gardermoen, and will have 2 departures every hour (3 later this year).
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/August497.jpg

You're doing a nice job on this thread. Just wan't you to know it's highly appriciated, though none of us have really contributed much here.
You're giving a nice and neutral presentation of the projects. If I were to make a thread like this of my hometown, I would probably use half of the space ranting and wining about the decisions i didn't agree too.:lol:

Just a question. With the arrival of the airport express train, is Gardermoen now the closest airport to Drammen, or is it still faster to travel from Torp?

Its pretty much the same. By train, Torp is also around 1 hour away (not included the bus from the station to the airport terminal). The completion of Bærumstunnelen and the Barkåker-Tønsberg parcel won't change the difference much either.

Papirbredden, the building that houses the University College of Buskerud and the city library, needs to expand. Developer Entra Eiendom wants to build between 15.000 and 18.000 on the adjancent parking lot. (current building is 21.000 sqm). They hope to attract research institutions, Colleges (HiBU, HiT and BI) and other public services.
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Union.jpg

The regulation plans allows for a 31 metres tall/9 floor building.

More in local newspaper Drammens Tidene here (http://dt.no/article/20090908/NYHET/144987853)

Awsome, Drammen really shows the way for smaller cities around Norway to follow!

Grønland 55

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Grnland55.jpg
Lpo (http://www.lpo.no), the architect behind NAV-bygget is hired by Union Eiendom to draw another project on Union. On the adjacent plot Union Eiendom wants to develop 25.000 sqm of office.

If someone wants to post some pictures from the LPO site (http://www.lpo.no/prosjekter/groenland-55-article261-110.html), you're more than welcome.

Project description here (http://www.lpo.no/getfile.php/Prosjekter/083200%20Gr%C3%B8nland%20-%20utvikling/Gr%C3%B8nland%2057.pdf).

I think it looks very good, and the location is also nice. It will also improve the area with another planed river-crossing!

If someone wants to post some pictures from the LPO site, you're more than welcome.

What, you're getting lazy now? Not good! You have commited yourself to keeping this thread, and you should know we all have great expectations of you!


Ok, you're off this time. Here it is (the project is the long building at the lower part of the render):
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Drammen1.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Drammen2.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Drammen3.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Drammen4.jpg

Just a little lazy earlier today (yesterday by now). But I had a hunch you would take the bite;)

The river crossing, Øvre Sund Bru, is currently under construction and will be completed by 2011. They're doing the foundation and on-land concrete work around now.

Well, that's when you know why I have more than twice as many posts as you:nuts:

A new residential project in the city center is up for sale these days. So far 11 out of the 29 apartments have been sold, and construction is expected to start in early 2010.

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Rmersvei02.jpg

The five storey building will be buildt in a style similar to an adjacent building, have a small playground in the backyard as well as a 320 sqm rooftop terrace.

3 smaller wooden houses will be torn down to the protests from protectionist (one of them was on the City's yellow list IIRC).
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Rmersvei.jpg

More info here (http://www.romersvei.no/)

News story from DT here (http://dt.no/article/20091002/NYHET/932289265)

^^Looks pretty good.

Just have to ask. Ive seen renders for Sundland before which seems to be stopped some years ago.
Do you know if this: http://alt.as/prosjekt.php?id=21 are a new plans (looks really good IMO) or just a proposal from earlier?

I agree. Those renders looks pretty good, but I don't know if they are older or newer. Latest news (http://dt.no/article/20091003/NYHET/267422269) was yet another delay, but I'm really looking forward to see the regulation plan proposal when its made public...

Quite a few nice projects! Drammen has had an incredible improvment the last years, and good to see they'll keep it up! Hadn't seen the Sundland renderings before - looks good. Let's hope they'll work it out..

Short update from the Nedre Storgate (http://www.drammen.kommune.no/no/Tjenester/Byutvikling/Kommunale-byggeprosjekter/Moderne-gagate-i-Nedre-Storgate/Ukens-arbeider-i-Nedre-Storgate/) upgrade
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/November002.jpg
Installation of the snow smelting system

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/November003.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/November004.jpg
Finished part.

and Strømsø Torg (http://www.drammen.kommune.no/no/Ressurs/Aktuelt-venstre-meny/20091/Nytt-Stromso-torg/).
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/November007.jpg

Developer of Union Brygge has launched a new website (http://www.unionbrygge.no/). Not much information about the planned development in the southwest part, but otherwise quite nice.

^^ nice webpage, makes it fun to explore!

A new office/retail building will go under construction on Bragernes in february 2010. The building will be 5 stories tall and contain 11.000 sqm. Several older buildings will be torn down, including a somewhat preservable building that used to be the "Trikkestall" in Drammen (for the Trolley-buses).

Sparebanken Øst is the developer and will move to the building when completed. So far, around 75% of the leaseable area is rented.
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/engene01.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/engene.jpg
Architect: Arkitektgruppen Drammen

Old article in Drammens Tidene (http://dt.no/article/20090518/NYHET/946975267)
New article (des 2, 2009) from Drammens Tidene (http://dt.no/article/20091202/NYHET/712029989/1063/NYHET)
Prospect from the developer here (http://www.oesteiendom.no/bankeiendom/doc/engenekvartalet.pdf)

The owners of Rica Park Hotels wish to build a new hotel and conference facilities with a capasity of 1000 peoples. Estimated price 500 mNOK. If realised, the hotel can be completed by 2012.

Location:
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Parkhotell03.jpg

Renderings:
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Parkhotell02.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Parkhotell01.jpg
Ill: Halvorsen og Reine arc.

The plot they wish to develop is located between the city park and the river, along Øvre Strandgate. A few buildings (including a somewhat preservable one) will be demolished, while others (some "Drammenshus") will be integrated into the new complex.

The current hotel will be renovated or torn down to make room for 10.000 sqm of office, perferably a hq of some kind.

Link to article here. (http://dt.no/article/20091210/NYHET/712109910/1063/NYHET)

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Parkhotell01.jpg
Ill: Halvorsen og Reine arc.

Oh christ, here it comes: :puke:

When even the render looks that bad, it's hard to have high hopes for the building also. I'm sorry.

Some shameless Drammen promotion(?) from yours truly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo5dUyKI9zw

First, a map (poorly Photoshopped)
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Oppdatering.jpg

NAV-bygget. The building will open this tuesday (February 9th.)
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Nav01.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Nav02.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Nav03.jpg

Comfort Hotel Union Brygge. Opened February 1th.

Backyard
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Comfort06.jpg

Foyer
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Comfort08.jpg

Main entrance
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Comfort05.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Comfort04.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Comfort03.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Comfort02-1.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Comfort01.jpg

Skatt Sør Drammen Opens soon...
A project I've completely overlooked before. Before reconstruction the building served as the city and county library (moved to Papirbredden)
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Skatt01.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Skatt02.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Skatt03.jpg

Drammen got some nice new buildings, but the backyard of Comfort hotel really is tasteless.

Good job, Drammen!

Drammen got some nice new buildings, but the backyard of Comfort hotel really is tasteless.

Agreed. Let's hope it gets better when the summer comes. I think there's some kind of fountain under the snow. And since the backyard/plaza is the main entrance to Union Scene they ought to make it more representative.

I've previously mentioned (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=41399870&postcount=8) that Strømsø is to become a showcase for environmentally friendly city development. Well, now the results from the architectural competition is in. There are 40 proposals that are on display in the old railway station building. During spring a winner will be chosen by a jury, and the proposal will be further refined.

I'll first give a summary, and then, a little later go into some of the proposals in more detail (and hopefully provide some pictures of the areas in question).

Overview map:
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Overview.jpg

Commonalites for most of the proposals:
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Summarycopy.jpg
Color code:
Green: New construction/redevelopment
Yellow: Protected buildings/area
Blue: New pedestrian street (Tollbugata) and squares

Other (included in some of the proposals)
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Othershighrises.jpg
Color code:
Green: Additional areas and lid over the railway tracks
Red: possible location for highrises (from ~10 fl to ~30 fl).

I hope this wasn't to messy.

There are quite a few proposals, so I will dustribute them over several posts.

Some of the proposals are misrepresented both by quality of images and quantity. That is mine and the lack of space in the old station waiting rooms fault. I've only got images from 20 out of the 40 proposals

1.
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Future01.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Future02a.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Future02b.jpg
Main features: Highrise/cultural buildning on the new square, general desification and infills. Highrises over the railroad station, and a building bridging the tracks

2.
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Future03a.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Future03b.jpg
Main features: Green roofs, general infills, new base floor for the current highrise. Many pedestrian zones

3.
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Future04a.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Future04b.jpg
Main features: High exploitation, general infills, many buildings bridging the tracks

4.
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Future05a.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Future05b.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Future05c.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Future05d.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Future05e.jpg
Main features: Many highrises, big park areas (with peculiar shape)

5.
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Future06a.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Future06b.jpg
Main features: General infills, rowhouses along the railway, relocation of the fire station. More parks pedestrian paths.

6.
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Future07a.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Future07b.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Future07c.jpg
Main features: Canal on the southside of the tracks, buildings by the river. Adding floors to existing buildings. General densification and infills

7.
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Future08.jpg
Main features: Many pedestrian streets, general infill and densification

8.
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Future09.jpg
Main features: 3 new "highrises", reconstruction of existing commie, "Sjøboder"-style buildings along the tracks (Doktor Hansteins Gate)

9.
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Future10a.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Future10b.jpg
Main features: Building a twin for Skistadbygget, 6 new highrises (tallest ~30 fl) on the railway station parking lot. New park from Strømsø church to the river, general densification

10.
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Future11.jpg
Main features: (this is probably just a smaller part of a bigger proposal.) "highrises" along the railway. (And a train which is falling off the world.

I really like this, waiting in patience for more proposals - i know Norwegians generally think it's a bad idea to build tall next to rivers or lakes, but one can make a really cool skyline with only a few slightly taller buildings this way if the design is good:

Ref, one of my favourites in europe, 3 nice buildings makes the difference, even if there are shitty buildings there aswell - if Drammen could get something simular it would enhance the image of a reinventing cutting edge river-city in growth :drool:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3460/3856794385_b9b795a65e_b.jpg
It's not that hard to make a cute little skyline look great :)

An advantage with Strømsø is that any shadows from highrises along the river will only fall on the river itself. And since there really isn't any view over the river from street level today (due to the railway embankment) there's not much to be lost from such a development.

11.
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Future12.jpg
Main feature: just a drawing showing buildings along Telthusgata (the southeast corner)

12.
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Future13.jpg
Main features: Wave-shaped highrises along the river (on a lid covering the tracks)

13.
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Future14a.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Future14b.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Future14c.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Future14d.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Future14e.jpg
Main feature: Residential skyscraper with 2250 units on an artificial island in the river. Lid over the tracks and dense utilization of the areas along Doktor Hansteins Gate

14.
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Future15.jpg
Main features: Additional floors with green roofs on exiting buildings. Market square in the centre. Green buildings along the tracks.

15.
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Future16.jpg
Main features: Highrise lid on the station. High density along Doktor Hansteins Gate, Highrise in southeast corner. Some infills

16.
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Future17a.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Future17b.jpg
Main features: 9 Highrises over the tracks. Riverpark

17.
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Future18.jpg
Main features: Twisted highrise. Lid with park over the tracks.

18.
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Future19a.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Future19b.jpg
Main features: Dense utilization along Doktor Hansteins Gate. Densification and infills.

That was all of the proposals I had.

Some interesting and above all, spectacular proposals here! The most spectacular ones are, sadly, very unrealistic science-fiction-movie like proposals though...

Intersting! My favorites are 1, 2 and 6, though I think they could allow for some towers close to the station. The rest however are either not urban enough, or like Christian said, just unrealistic science fiction dreams.

Today the winning proposals of the Futurebuilt were announced.

Naturally, only one of the winners (there were 4) have been presented in this tread.

I will post pictures/renderings as well as some short exerpts from the jury. My camera battery went dead, so not many pictures from the ceremony itself (shame on me). Will post what I got shortly.

Winner:

Look to Strømsø, by Norconsult and Alliance Arkitekter
- a proposal with very high exploitation (increase of sqm by 150%)
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/LooktoStrms01.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Futurebuilt001.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Futurebuilt002.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Futurebuilt004.jpg
(the head to the right belongs to Bård Folke Fredriksen)

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Exerpt from the jury's leaders presentation.

2. place(two proposals)
Fremtidens Norge, by DRMA and Rambøll
- presented in this tread as #8
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/FremtidensNorge01.jpg

På Linje, by Serum Architects(Finland)
- quite low exploitation
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/PLinje01.jpg

4. "Innkjøp"
Sol over Strømsø, by Andersen, Zepernick and Guldager
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/SoloverStrms01.jpg

Link to Drammens Tidene's coverage here (http://dt.no/nyheter/slik-blir-stromso-1.5184583)

Looks like a great winner. It's good that Drammen is going with one that has high exploitation.

I can't seem to find it among the ones you posted on the previous page, which one is it?

I can't seem to find it among the ones you posted on the previous page, which one is it?

When I posted the proposals I only had pictures from around half (20) of the proposals. So the winning proposal wasn't presented. One of the second place winners was. As #8, Fremtidens Norge.

the scary thing was that I actually recognized Folke Fredriksen before you said that it was him:lol:. What was he doing in Drammen?

Hopefully he was learning something, the winner is awesome! Thumbs up for Norconsult and Alliance Arkitekter :applause:

Gratulation Drammen!

Ingerioren: Bingo! (http://dt.no/nyheter/slik-blir-stromso-1.5184583)

The project looks fine, but I am having a problem with the no car policy. This is a weakness (IMO) that many inner city projects suffer from. With a maximum number of parking lots equal to 0.6 per apartment, many inhabitants are unable to own a car.

Not having the possibility to own a car is not modern, just low standard. I don't have a problem with trying to reduce car usage, but eliminating it altogether is an ill-advised step to take. How will you accommodate your friends and relatives coming over, in their cars, for Christmas or other occasions?

Roads and parking are a vital part of the infrastructure and once the roads and buildings are built, it is virtually impossible to change the capacity. Traffic can easily, and dynamically, be regulated by setting an appropriate parking fee (not on private residential parking of course.)

In the near future, urban cars will be nearly non-polluting, noiseless and small.

The project looks fine, but I am having a problem with the no car policy. This is a weakness (IMO) that many inner city projects suffer from. With a maximum number of parking lots equal to 0.6 per apartment, many inhabitants are unable to own a car.

Not having the possibility to own a car is not modern, just low standard. I don't have a problem with trying to reduce car usage, but eliminating it altogether is an ill-advised step to take. How will you accommodate your friends and relatives coming over, in their cars, for Christmas or other occasions?

Roads and parking are a vital part of the infrastructure and once the roads and buildings are built, it is virtually impossible to change the capacity. Traffic can easily, and dynamically, be regulated by setting an appropriate parking fee (not on private residential parking of course.)

In the near future, urban cars will be nearly non-polluting, noiseless and small.

Well, luckily there are also people who see things different than you out there. I guess you see areas like "Grünerløkka" as a failure when coming to urban planing. But you see, this is what new urbanism is all about, and I'm sorry too say, it has come to stay!

For visitors to the area, surely there will be all the short-term parking they need (and probably some parking houses as well). For the rest, well. You just got to realize that we will see more and more people realizing how extremely expensive it is to hold a car in Norway today, and that it is possible to live a great and complete life without a car, especially with increased options in Public Transport.

Well, luckily there are also people who see things different than you out there. I guess you see areas like "Grünerløkka" as a failure when coming to urban planing. But you see, this is what new urbanism is all about, and I'm sorry too say, it has come to stay!

For visitors to the area, surely there will be all the short-term parking they need (and probably some parking houses as well). For the rest, well. You just got to realize that we will see more and more people realizing how extremely expensive it is to hold a car in Norway today, and that it is possible to live a great and complete life without a car, especially with increased options in Public Transport.

Grünerløkka was built before cars were common. The reason Grünerløkka is popular today is not the lack of parking possibilities for the inhabitants, but rather the mix of people, the service offerings, and the proximity to Oslo’s central areas. I don’t see this as conflicting with a parking norm of one space per apartment in an underground parking garage.

If your whole life is concentrated within the city core, a car would probably be unnecessary. But having the possibility to own and park a car, even if rarely used, is still preferable the way I see it.

Car-share can fullfill your needs when you only need a car on rear occasions. I would certainly not call the 0.6 norm a no-car policy, those who need a car for work or just love their car can still have one, they just have to pay marked price for their garagespace :)

Some pictures from the Strømsø torg renovation
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Strmstorg01.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Strmstorg02.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Strmstorg03.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Strmstorg04.jpg

wow, looks like a lot of work is going on there..

definitely need some before/after pics when the work is done!

Drammen is definitaly going in the right direction.
Get most of the cars out of central parts with focus on pedestrians.

Bragernes is the central part of town located on the north shore of the river.
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Bragernesnedre2.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Mai018.jpg
This project has been mentioned earlier. This area will be developed into a 5-stories office building with shops on street level.

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Mai016.jpg
Development of this plot have I have yet to confirm, but as the rumor goes there will be built offices here, thus completing Nedre Storgate.

Currently the plot is occupied by Sydney Kebab, one of Norway's most famous of its kind. They will relocate across the street.

Updated map:
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Drammen270610.jpg

Green (completed):
Tollboden hotel expansion
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Tollboden.jpg

Nedre Storgate (Gågata) upgrade
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Ggata02.jpg
View to the east

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Ggate01.jpg
View to the west

Underlia 2-4 (actually completed last year)
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Underlia1.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Underlia2.jpg

Blue (under construction):
Strømsø Ungdomsskole (secondary school). The biggest passivehus (low energy building) project so far in Norway. To be completed during the summer
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Stromsou01.jpg

Drammen Videregående (high school) expansion.
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Drammenvgs01.jpg

Strømsø torg renovation
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Stromso01.jpg

Øvre Sund bridge
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/OvreSund01.jpg

Rømers vei
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Romersvei01.jpg

Engenekvartalet
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Engene01-1.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Engene02.jpg

Papirbredden

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/papir2.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/papir3.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/papir1.jpg

By Lpo.

^^ looks really cool!

Jernbaneverket and ROM Eiendom has finally reached an agreement on Drammen station(-hall), and it seems a new station will be ready for Drammen's 200 year anniversary next year. According to Jernbaneverket, works will start right away.

Some info from Jernbaneverkets article (http://www.jernbaneverket.no/no/Nyheter/Nyhetsarkiv/2010/Enighet-om-Drammen-stasjon/):

- Det skal bli mye lysere og både avgangshall, kontor- og næringsarealer skal bygges om, forteller direktør Pål Berger i NSBs eiendomsselskap, ROM Eiendom.

Stasjonen vil få en bredt tjenestetilbud i tillegg til venterom og billettsalg. Det blir flere spisesteder og butikker og det blir tre innganger til bygningen.


Renders from ROM

Facade will remain almost unchanged
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Drammen20st20inng20parti20520.jpg

Waiting hall will be lighter and more open
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/DRAMME2.jpg


The whole thing will cost about 50 mio NOK:)

Thanks Icecheese. I'll take some pictures of the current situation. It's a little dissapointing that the upgrade doesn't include the underpass to the platforms.

To bad. The underpass is so depressing..

Indeed, but better lightning would be a cheap way to make it less gloomy.

Norgesmester i byutvikling (http://www.estatenyheter.no/ArticleDetails/tabid/83/Skin/2/SecID/4/ArtID/13377/Default.aspx)

They were telling the truth when they said work would start immediately on the station.

The old ticket sale have been sealed off and moved to a pavillion outside the station, and a disbanded café inside the hall have suffered the same fate. I've also seen some work inside the old station building through the windows.

Current situation
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/September176.jpg

New ticket office
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/September174.jpg

Inside the waiting room. Old ticket office behind the plywood
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/September175.jpg

So they are going to renovate Drammen station? I`d rather see them building a new station at Brakerøya and let the trains continuing to Vestfoldbanen go straight over to Fjell from there. Then they wouldn`t need to do a circle all the way around Drammen city. This section needs to be upgraded anyways, so why not build it for the future?!

Such a project would be far into the future. There have been loose talk about the bottleneck on Vestfoldbanen between Drammen station and Kobbervikdalen, but nothing concrete thus far. (But who knows what Jernbaneverket may have in their drawers). I think the most realistic solution will be a 5km long tunnel from around Nybyen to Kobbervikdalen.

Regardsless, the station renovation is very welcome.

Another step forward for Papirbredden phase II (http://www.bygg.no/2010/09/ny-og-viktig-avtale-paa-papirbredden)

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Losjeplassen.jpg

A new residential project on Bragernes with 44 apartments and townhouses (narrow 2 stories appartments) ranging from 54 - 146 sqm. is out for sale.

The plot used to be a gas station back in the days and AFAIK is now a garage.
Located in Nedre Storgate 32 (although the real estate agent tries to posh up the name by renameing the street Nedre Slottsgate), is't just behind the soon- to-be finished Bragernes Strand and a 10-15 minute walk from Bragernes Torg. The building will have 4 floors and access to the apartments is from the inner courtyard.

More information avaliable on the project website (http://www.losjeplassenpark.no/)

Norways first energy-class A "commercial building" opens at Sundland:

http://www.bygg.no/cache/image/27292/53/nsb-skolen-bredde.jpg
It's actually a school for train-staff, but :)

http://www.bygg.no/2010/10/foerst-med-naeringsbygg-i-a-klassen

Skal utvile Lierstranda (http://www.tu.no/bygg/article266885.ece)
I'm happy to see that Entasis is one of the choosen Architects.

Papirbredden

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/papir2.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/papir3.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/papir1.jpg

By Lpo.


looks fantastic :okay: we want more photos :)

drammen is a beautiful city,like :cheers:

Well... Ground work just started so there won't be much too see for a while, but I'll try my best to update this tread with new photos as soon as anything interesting happens.

^^

ok,Thnx .... information :cheers: :okay:

http://dt.no/nyheter/mobiliserer-til-bybanekamp-1.5882805

Mobiliserer til bybanekamp

Fagbyråkratene vil helst ikke ha det. Men Aps nye ordførerkandidat i Drammen mener bybane må til for å få folk ut av bilen.

DRAMMEN: Bergen har fått sin. Om åtte år står trolig bybanen i Stavanger ferdig, og flere andre byer leker med tanken.

I Drammen har leken pågått siden begynnelsen av 2000-tallet.

Den gang ble ideen klekket ut i Drammens Tidendes spalter, som et innspill til infrastrukturproblemene i forbindelse med sykehusbygging på Gullaug.

Forslagene har gjennom årene vært mange. Men aldri har bybane blitt mer enn et interessant kulepunkt i rådmannens budsjetthefte.

Gjennom byen
Nå er det Aps ferske ordførerkandidat Masud Gharahkhani som prøver seg.

– Det er naturlig at en bane går gjennom sentrum og gjør byen tilgjengelig for folk, sier han og peker ut et aktuelt stoppested langs elvebredden.

Gullaug ble fjernet fra trasékartet tidligere denne uken, men Gharahkhani ser nå for seg en bybane som raskt kan frakte folk mellom den planlagte fjordbyen i Lier og kjøpesenteranlegget i Nedre Eiker, inkludert flere stoppepunkter i Drammen sentrum.

Gratis i rushtiden
På kortere sikt foreslår han en ordinær ringbuss rundt bykjernen, med gratis avganger i rushtiden.

Bakgrunnen for utspillet er beregningene som viser at drammensregionen vil øke med 50 000 innbyggere de neste 20 årene, noe som vil føre til en eksplosiv vekst i biltrafikken.

– Vi har klart å få bukt med biltrafikken før. Det må vi klare igjen, sier ordførerkandidaten.
Viktig miljøsak

Gharahkhani mener samarbeidet i Buskerudbyen, der fylkeskommunen og de fem kommunene fra Lier til Kongsberg er med, er et perfekt forum å starte utredning av bybane og ringbuss. Der er nemlig målet å redusere biltrafikken og øke kollektivbruken.

– Nå har vi muligheten til å vise innbyggerne at vi har store ambisjoner. Vi kan vise næringslivet og sentrale myndigheter at vi vil satse på infrastruktur. Slik kan drammensregionen bli en viktig miljøregion, noe det bør være politisk enighet om, mener Gharahkhani.

Motstand
Politikernes begeistring for bybaner og ringbusser har som regel stoppet i byråkratiet.
Fagfolk tviler nemlig på om befolkningsgrunnlaget i drammensområdet blir stort nok for en bybane.

I anbefalingene som går ut fra Buskerudbyen, uttales det at man skal «søke å utvikle kollektivtilbudet på eksisterende infrastruktur (veier og jernbane)». En bybane med egen trasé vil trolig ikke vurderes før mot slutten av planperioden, i 2023. En mer realistisk mulighet kan være en bussbane, lagt til eksisterende veinett.

– Må være visjonære

Gharahkhani vil ikke låse seg til konsept, men er utålmodig og vil ha debatten nå.

– Det viktigste er å få et alternativ som øker kollektivandelen og at vi nå tør å være visjonære, oppfordrer Ap-politikeren.

Ringbussen mener han kan finansieres som prøveprosjekt gjennom belønningsordningen, der potten er på 75 millioner kroner i planperioden.

– Når det gjelder et mer langsiktig bybaneprosjekt, tenker vi et samarbeid mellom kommunene i Buskerudbyen og sentrale myndigheter. Men dette er jo et langsiktig perspektiv, påpeker Gharahkhani.

:D lets do like the rest of the continent, and build light rail systems in all our "major" cities!

It would be totally awesome with a light rail system in Drammen and the satelite towns. It would make the bigger shopping malls in the suburbs more viable as well.

Yes please, also Fredrikstad - Sarpsborg should start thinking about light-rail eventually!

This is a great idea.

And I mean, for the "experts" saying that the proposed line won't have enough passengers. If Drammen is going to grow by 50,000 people in the next 20 years, and the city has a shiny new light rail line, where are those people going to choose to live? We only have to look at the many new projects along Bergens new bybane to see that light rail projects are like a magnet for new development.

Hegg Barneskole

Det er lagt vekt på å skape et oversiktlig og kompakt skolebygg med enkel inndeling av offentlige funksjoner, fellesfunksjoner og elevenes hjemmeområder. Hovedfunksjonene i
anlegget er organisert rundt et felles sentralrom/ vrimleareal hvor det eksisterende bygg O, som skal bevares, er gitt en viktig plassering. Sentralrommet danner en slags
innvendig ”oase” eller veksthus, hvor alle fellesfunksjoner og hjemmeområder kan nås eller sees.

De ”offentlige” funksjonene som stor samlingssal, gymsal, spesialrom og bibliotek er plassert i i direkte tilknytning til vrimleareal/kantine i 1 etasje. Gymsal kan åpnes mot
sentralrommet med skyvevegger.

De ”private” undervisningsrommene for trinn 1-3, samt SFO ligger på 1. etasje, mens trinn 4 -7 er plassert på 2. etasje. Undervisningsarealene kan nås direkte fra egne og
desentraliserte innganger.

Hovedinngangen er lagt på vestsiden med direkte tilknytning til skolens atkomstområde med forplass og ”bypark”. Fra hovedinngangen og sentralrommet leder en hovedtrapp
og et amfi direkte opp til administrasjonen mot øst i 2 etasje.

Med ”grønne Lier” som inspirasjon er taket en fortolkning av de omkringliggende svakt buktende åser og kulturlandskap. Det kan også knyttes til veksthusenes karakteristiske
sammensatte og sagtakkede takform. Sentralrommet ”oasen” har derfor overlys og et tak med lett utrykk som et slags veksthus, mens omkringliggende bygningsmasse er
foreslått med et grønt sedumtak.

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/9466/heggbarneskole3x1200.jpg
Illustration by L2 Arkitekter (http://www.l2.no/)

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/2681/heggbarneskole1x1200.jpg
Illustration by L2 Arkitekter (http://www.l2.no/)

http://img573.imageshack.us/img573/4219/heggbarneskole2x1200.jpg
Illustration by L2 Arkitekter (http://www.l2.no/)

L2 er skoleflinkest
Osloarkitektene L2 Arkitekter AS er kåret til vinner av den begrensede Plan- og designkonkurransen om Hegg barneskole i Lier. En enstemmig jury uttaler at L2s utkast ”Kinderhegg” skiller seg klart ut fra de øvrige.

http://www.arkitektur.no/?nid=214754
http://lierposten.no/nyheter/holdt-for-narr-1.5911453

This new project certainly looks way better that the current school. The next quiestion is of course if the municipality can afford yet another school just a few years after the latest "flagship" school opened on Høvik (2010 to be precise). I have my doubts...

A new color coded map from yours truly

(Map is several years old, from around 2006 I guess)
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Strms01-1.jpg

Green:
The city have decided (http://dt.no/nyheter/vil-flytte-bussparkeringen-1.5923150) to move the bus parking out of the city center. The current parking is located directly adjacent to the bus terminal (in the middle left in the picture). A new location is not yet determined but will hopefully be choosen by mid 2011. By spring 2013, the plot will be ready for new development.

Yellow:
A petrol station occupies this part of the plot and should be either incorporated into a new development or removed.

Blue:
Nybyen Godsterminal. The city wants to move the goods terminal to either Lierstranda or Holmen island. No decision have yet been made in this regard.

Red:
Currently a warehouse, this plot will (in time) be part of the Union Brygge development.

When was elveparken in Drammen completed?

Elveparken on the north side of Drammenselva was completed in 2003. The reconstructed Strandveien was awarded Vakre Vegers Pris by Statens Vegvesen.

Strømsø torg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/februar019.jpg

Papirbredden 2 (not really much too see as they're still just digging dirt)
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/februar027.jpg

Øvre Sund Bru
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/februar035.jpg

Rømers vei (pretty much finished by now)
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/februar042.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/februar045.jpg

Cappelens gate (similar project on the same block)
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/februar049.jpg

Engenekvartalet
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/februar065.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/februar066.jpg

Renders of the proposed Lierstranda-development (http://dt.no/bildeserier/nyheter-bildeserier/arkitektforslag-til-fjordby-pa-lierstranda-1.6018957?=&bilde=1). Some really good proposals with great urbanity.

I think the project deserve a bit more than a small link :) All three of them have urban qualities, and that in the middle of "nowhere"!
Hopefully the future way to build suburbs.

http://dt.no/nyheter/slik-kan-det-bli-pa-lierstranda-1.6018244

Renders:

Asplan Viak:

http://i1005.photobucket.com/albums/af172/mjoks007/Asplan1.jpg
http://i1005.photobucket.com/albums/af172/mjoks007/Asplan2.jpg
http://i1005.photobucket.com/albums/af172/mjoks007/Asplan3.jpg
http://i1005.photobucket.com/albums/af172/mjoks007/Asplan4.jpg
http://i1005.photobucket.com/albums/af172/mjoks007/Asplan5.jpg

Entasis:

http://i1005.photobucket.com/albums/af172/mjoks007/Entasis1.jpg
http://i1005.photobucket.com/albums/af172/mjoks007/Entasis2.jpg
http://i1005.photobucket.com/albums/af172/mjoks007/Entasis3.jpg
http://i1005.photobucket.com/albums/af172/mjoks007/Entasis4.jpg
http://i1005.photobucket.com/albums/af172/mjoks007/Entasis5.jpg

LPO:

http://i1005.photobucket.com/albums/af172/mjoks007/LPO1.jpg
http://i1005.photobucket.com/albums/af172/mjoks007/LPO2.jpg
http://i1005.photobucket.com/albums/af172/mjoks007/LPO3.jpg
http://i1005.photobucket.com/albums/af172/mjoks007/LPO4.jpg

Renders of the proposed Lierstranda-development (http://dt.no/bildeserier/nyheter-bildeserier/arkitektforslag-til-fjordby-pa-lierstranda-1.6018957?=&bilde=1). Some really good proposals with great urbanity.

Looks almost surprsingly urban! Maybe we can move towards a more populated future in a more urban way afterall!:) Good connections (rail based, maybe tram) to both Drammen and Oslo is essential. Not sure train is enough for the local market.

It's a shame that Brakerøya - Spikkestad railway was closed. They should open it up again....

I know they talked about that a new rail tunne should be built at the same time as the motorway tunnel from Spikkestad to Lier (this was a couple of years ago..). I'm not sure anything got from it, though... Too bad, as the potential for further integration of the Drammen region is great.

I also read on Statens vegvesen's page that the new Rv23 won't be done until 2018 at earliest (!!!). What is it with these bureaucrats, that manage to drag things out so much? They must have a special ability. The regulation plan was approved in '03!!!

This sort of belongs just as much in the Oslo thread as in this one, but anyway...

Skaaret Holding want to develop the fields south of E18 just across the border from Asker into a new development zone of 160 mål (40 acres if I'm not mistaken) consisting of housing, offices, a big indoor football hall and a highrise hotel with 200-300 rooms.

I could not find the article from Drammens Tidende online, so here's a picture taken from the paper edition:
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/februar084.jpg

The area today:
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/lierskogen.jpg

All of this is LNF-område, and I can't really imagine the county Governor (fylkesmann) ever giving dispensation for this project.

All of this is LNF-område, and I can't really imagine the county Governor (fylkesmann) ever giving dispensation for this project.

Yeah, hopefully. What an awful project, and in the middle of nowhere! This is the type of project I think of when hearing the arguements of "grådige utbyggere"...

How dare they propose to build a highrise this close to a heritage listed monument... (E18.)

How dare they propose to build a highrise this close to a heritage listed monument... (E18.)

:lol:

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/Update100411.jpg

Drammen stasjon:
Still quite a lot of work to do before it's completed it seems
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/april134.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/april135.jpg

Strømsø torg:
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/april138.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/april139.jpg

Papirbredden 2:
The hole is getting pretty deep
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/april141.jpg

Øvre Sund bru:
Road deck is completed, but the pedestrian/bicycle-deck is yet to be assembled
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/april143.jpg

continues in next post

Cappelens gate:
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/april147.jpg

A new infill/renovation project I stumbled upon further down Cappelens gate:
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/april150.jpg

Engenekvartalet:
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/april153.jpg

Losjeplassen park:
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/april155.jpg

Nice update! When is the railway station to be finished?

It's scheduled for completion in time for Drammen's 200th anniversary this summer.

According to this link (http://www.romeiendom.no/vaare-eiendommer/drammen-st-bygn-bygg-b/drammen-stasjon-forretningslokale).

The new east entrance:
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/april135-1.jpg

New glass wall along the south facade. New retail areas on the inside.
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/april136.jpg

New main entrance facing Strømsø Torg:
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/april137.jpg

Main entrance from inside
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/april138-1.jpg

Waiting hall
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/april140-1.jpg

The new Narvesen (this has been open for a while)
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/april141-1.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/april142.jpg

Stairs down to the platforms
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/april143-1.jpg

Difference between old and new:
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/april144.jpg

Trackside the station will look pretty much the same
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/april145.jpg

Nice update! :applause:

Vil ha kun én togstasjon (http://dt.no/nyheter/vil-ha-kun-en-togstasjon-1.6246822)

Due to my laziness, these images are a few weeks old...

Papirbredden 2
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/juni020.jpg

Cappelens Gate
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/juni028.jpg

Losjeplassen Park
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/juni034.jpg

Engenekvartalet
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/juni032.jpg
All images are my own

Planprogram for widening of Fv282 to 4-lane road:
http://www.vegvesen.no/Om+Statens+vegvesen/Media/Siste+nyheter/Vis?key=226928

http://www.vegvesen.no/Om+Statens+vegvesen/Media/Siste+nyheter/Vis/_image/226947.png?_encoded=2f66666666666678302f35382f&_ts=1306f01cd18
Illustrasjon: Vegvesenet

Only one week until opening of the new station, so most things are pretty much done, but still something left..

Exterior
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/juni144.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/juni149.jpg

Not visible in the picture, but the old station building is being repainted in yellow
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/juni151.jpg

Interior
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/juni153.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/juni154.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/juni155.jpg

All pictures are off course my own

Just a week left before phase 1 is to be officially opened, so about time to take a look at the lightning

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/juni161.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/juni164.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/juni165.jpg

The statue used to be located in the roundabout and wasn't really visible. It's called "Tre Søstre"(Three sisters) and represents the joining of Bragernes, Strømsø and Tangen into Drammen city.
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/juni167.jpg

continued
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/juni168.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/juni173.jpg

The taxi-rank
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/juni175-1.jpg

Looks very nice. I love all the "black lines" in the roof of the new station.

The square looks very good! Are there any plans for continuing the same paving on the bridge?

Bybrua will close for renovation when Øvre Sund bru opens in the fall, but what more exactly they will do I don't know... yet.

Looks great! After working on this square for I don't know how many years, nothing less than great would be a scandal.

Dropper Lierstranda (http://lierposten.no/nyheter/dropper-lierstranda-1.6307662)
"Jernbaneverket har 18 alternativer for plassering av ny godsterminal vest for Oslo. Den havner neppe på Lierstranda."

http://lierposten.no/polopoly_fs/lkierstranda-1.6307682!/image/1988258020.jpg_gen/derivatives/derivative_article_904/1988258020.jpg
BLIR DET SLIK? Slik ser Asplan Viak for seg at Lierstranda Fjordby kan bli. Uten godsterminal er planene om fjordby et steg nærmere realisering. (Illustrasjon: Placebo Effects)

Some more pictures of just completed Strømsø Torg. This time in daylight from Drammens Tidene: http://dt.no/nyheter/byjubileet-2011/apnet-stromso-torg-1.6312925

http://dt.no/polopoly_fs/str-ms-torg-1.6313056!/image/1830614546.jpg_gen/derivatives/derivative_article_904x508/1830614546.jpg

http://dt.no/polopoly_fs/str-ms-torg-1.6312989!/image/2053628497.jpg_gen/derivatives/derivative_article_904x508/2053628497.jpg

http://dt.no/polopoly_fs/str-ms-torg-1.6312993!/image/3791036487.jpg_gen/derivatives/derivative_article_904x508/3791036487.jpg

http://dt.no/polopoly_fs/str-ms-torg-1.6313055!/image/2789221815.jpg_gen/derivatives/derivative_article_904x508/2789221815.jpg

^^ I think it turned out great, although I have feeling that where the water from the fountain hits the ground won't look good in a few years unless they are really good at maintaining it.

I wasn't going to do this again so soon but.

Drammen renovation for 200 years city anniversary!

Before:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Drammen199.jpg

After:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Drammen200.jpg

I think the joke wet over my head. What are I looking at?

The police cheaf of Drammen set the house on fire while firing an emergency torch during the 200-year festivities. Quite fun!:lol:

That's in fact our preferred way of renovation.. Some "accidentally" sets an old house on fire, and then we can rebuild it into something more economically efficient. You know, white concrete, some steel and glass balconies.

I will post more pictures from Strømsø Torg and Drammen stasjon when I return from my vacation.

Sundland i stampe (http://dt.no/nyheter/sundland-i-stampe-1.6317323)
"På Sundland skal det komme 1.000 boliger til nye drammensere. Etter to års forhandlinger står Gulskogen hageby fortsatt på vent"

http://dt.no/polopoly_fs/sundland-1.6317450!/image/3167388801.jpg_gen/derivatives/derivative_article_904/3167388801.jpg

New developments at Elvebredden. Link: http://dt.no/nyheter/fyller-opp-langs-elvebredden-1.6327254

http://dt.no/polopoly_fs/mellom-hotel-union-brygge-og-vre-sund-bru-kommer-kvartal-7-bak-til-venstre-kan-man-skimte-union-sc-1.6327256!/image/2527021288.jpg_gen/derivatives/derivative_article_904x508/2527021288.jpg

Looks decent enough.

^^Just a tip. Many newspapers block sites from embedding their photos. If you want to show images from newspaper ariticles, you'll have to save them on your harddrive and upload them to a uploadsite, such as photobucket etc.

Elseway, nice job:)

Really? It works here.

Venstres drøm om fjordby (http://dt.no/nyheter/venstres-drom-om-fjordby-1.6330918)
http://dt.no/polopoly_fs/fjordbyen-stale-s-rensen-1.6330920!/image/459523152.jpg_gen/derivatives/derivative_article_904/459523152.jpg

"Drammen Venstre har laget en modell som skal vise at det er mulig å gjøre elvebyen til en fjordby."

Funker bildet?

^^

I've also thought about that a couple of times. It's probably the nicest plot in Drammen.

Kjetil, I remember you saying something about the ground being too unstable to build anything there?

^^Only shame about the highway bridge though.

Why? I think it looks nice:) There's also a (couple of) railroad bridge(s) passing the island, but the good part is all major infrastructure is gathered at the very westmost tip.

And yes, the dt.no links seems to work now, but they didn't the day I posted. Saving the pictures for your own is still a greater guarantee for them working in the future, though. There's a reason when you go 2-3 years back, some users end up with only red-xes and others still have pictures showing.

I always think about how wonderful that plot is for development when I pass it. Would been awesome!

Why? I think it looks nice:) There's also a (couple of) railroad bridge(s) passing the island, but the good part is all major infrastructure is gathered at the very westmost tip.


Because it limits how good any new developments there can connect with the rest of the city. The highway bridge is the difference between what can be an extension of Drammen centrum and what can be just another housing district imho.

^^I disagree. The biggest obstacle for connecting Drammen's different shores will always be the river, and it's not much narrower here than any other places. But Strømsøbrua and Holmenbrua have been upgraded with wide pesestrian routes, and I think that is the most important part in making "Holmen" an attractive cityborough. I don't get how E18 affects this at all, as a matter of fact.

You don't see a freeway bridge as an obstacle? Really? Do you know of any urban places that have successfully integrated a freeway bridge? I agree with that the river is also a further obstacle, however the bridges are human made while the river is not.

^^No, I just don't get what you're suggesting as an alternative, and whether it will increase attractivity in the area to the level that it will be profitable for the society as a whole. You're suggesting digging down a four lane highway bridge + Drammensbanen, where the alternative is an under-sea tunnel that would require long ramps on both sides to be deep enough under Drammenselva.

No, I'm only saying that it is a shame that the island have all these bridges and that these will limit the success of the new developments. I don't think the state should pay to have it removed though as it have a very limited benefit to the society as whole
:)

^^Yeah, but stating that is the wrong place to start when we're talking about a possible redevelopment of this area.

Here's a little plan I sketched out that shows how Holmen could be incorporated into Drammen sentrum.

http://i.imgur.com/0oQJz.jpg

A new cental station would be sure to bring some life, and Holmen lies right inbetween the two boom-areas Lierstranda and Strømsø, making it a natural place for development.

Putting the old railway underground will connect Strømsø to the river, and will make it easier for people to move between Drammen sentrum and Holmen. It also has the added bonus of creating a better pedestrian connection to Union Brygge.

Holmen could be Drammens fjordcity if the politicians play it right. All the industry would have to be moved though. Maybe to Sande? I heard that JBV were planning a new cargo port there.

http://i2.sinaimg.cn/dy/c/p/2007-11-21/U1565P1T1D14356894F21DT20071121114821.jpg
If the bridge would be clad like this the pollution could be guided up in a chimney.

Is the newly renovated square in Drammen better with or without taxis? (http://dt.no/nyheter/bare-tre-drosjer-pa-torget-1.6342218)

Can as well add the picture of the new smooth pavement:
http://dt.no/polopoly_fs/str-ms-torg-drosjer-1.6343091!/image/3418111225.jpg_gen/derivatives/derivative_article_904/3418111225.jpg
(FOTO: MATTIS DAHL ÅMOTSBAKKEN)

Looks really nice, but the building to the right is fugly.

The Statens Vegvesen building is a true eysore on central Strømsø. Arguably the ugliest building in town...

The square at least have turned out great. Is the road surface flush with the pavement or is it only the angle of picture that makes it appear so?

Finally an update of the completed Strømsø Torg from yours truly:

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/juli004.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/juli006.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/juli011.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/juli021.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/juli022.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/juli027.jpg

Very nice!!

Beautiful :) now someone please demolish the Statens Vegvesen building. It does not do the rest of the area justice.

Cool lightning, give us more of that in Trondheim too!

Couple of construction pics..
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/Papirbredden21.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/Papirbredden22.jpg

The square looks nice!

Pairbredden 2 again

Starting on the 5th floor
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/Papirbredden2.jpg

Update time!

Papirbredden II
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/drammen003.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/drammen006.jpg

Øvre Sund bru has now opened
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/drammen011.jpg

Cappelens gate
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/drammen016.jpg

The infill further east in Cappelens gate
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/drammen019.jpg

Engenekvartalet
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/drammen024.jpg

This overgrown fire lot in Engene is to be developed into 17 or 18 townhouse apartments
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/drammen025.jpg

Losjeplassen park
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/drammen027.jpg

New parking-house at Drammen station begins construction this year:

http://dt.no/polopoly_fs/parkeringshus-str-ms-1.6482937!/image/1085491516.jpg_gen/derivatives/derivative_article_904/1085491516.jpg
http://dt.no/nyheter/forste-spadetak-tas-i-host-1.6482935

Horizontal Aqua (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aqua_(skyscraper))!

It's not located on the station peremiter though, but next to our fantastic landmark Skistadbygget, adjacent to the ring road. A nice spot for a parking house. And compared to the other parking houses in town this is an architectural masterpiece

It might be a little off topic, but Haugesund is now being compared to Drammen before it's revival:

http://h-debatt.no/innlegg/haugesund-i-tunnel/

http://h-debatt.no/innlegg/sentrum-har-tapt/
What do you guys think?

It might be a little off topic, but Haugesund is now being compared to Drammen before it's revival:

http://h-debatt.no/innlegg/haugesund-i-tunnel/

http://h-debatt.no/innlegg/sentrum-har-tapt/
What do you guys think?

It is a very sad trend, and it's simply a result of a politic that neglects urban planning and development. The trend with more car based shopping centres outside the historical city centres has been a major force over the last couple of decades all over the country. And it followed the suburban housing trend that came in the '60s. Now, if you have a car and you don't work in the city centre, there's no real reason to go there anymore on a daily basis. In fact no reason to go there particularly often at all if it doesn't offer anything else than what the shopping malls offer. And what you get is similar to American car based cities.

Of course, traditionally the city centre has always been the heart of the cities and it the most interesting, bustling and vibrant place. The problem is that once you move shopping out of this equation, the other functions it offers like historical sites, architecture, cafés and restaurants are not enough anymore. Because remember, moving the shopping out comes on top of the above mentioned suburbia developments which has already moved most of the inhabitants to be living in a very spread out structure. Housing and shops are basic elements. So what you get from there is a negative spiral, the smaller independent shops for instance, will not be able to make it, and there will be even fewer reasons to go there and so on.

But the real key here is that for the smaller cities (like Haugesund) the impacts of this development is much more harmful and visible. There is a critical mass that a city needs to have a force strong enough to work in the opposite way. One car based mega mall in a smaller city will draw a relatively larger part of the population out of the city centre. So, we're back to the politics. If there's a concious and urban development focus, smaller cities could very well have attractive and vibrant city centres, but if not - only the larger cities will still have a chance.

Hmmm... I'm uncertain if a certain Drammen-forumer has noticed that in a certain document about Buskerudbyen, the intercity-project of lower Buskerud, on a certain page 19, a certain picture of a certain forumer can be found..:lol:

http://www.buskerudbyen.no/getfile.php/1615450.466.rarauatbvd/2011+13.mai+Revidert+planprogram+til+2.+gangs+behandling.pdf

The plan and a deal for closer cooperation between Kongsberg, Hokksund, Drammen++ was signed earlier this summer, and may prove effective in directing development to a more urban standard.

As far as I know, that certain forumer from Drammen (whomever that might be) had no idea. But I guess he would find that somewhat amusing.

Today a new exibition opened on Strømsø torg featuring the winning concept for Futurebuilt as well as other related plans.

Bigger pictures than usual so reading the text will be easier (all in Norwegian)

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Futurebuilt01.jpg

Opening by Mayor Tore Opdal Hansen
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Futurebuilt02.jpg

Strømsø Vest - the area between Strømsø Torg and Union/the railway tracks
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Futurebuilt03.jpg

Lille Torg - the square in the middle of Tollbugata (just outside where I live)
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Futurebuilt04.jpg

Doktor Hansteins gate - Main focus for new construction
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Futurebuilt05.jpg

Bjørnstjerne Bjørnsonsgate
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Futurebuilt06.jpg

The new parking garage
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Futurebuilt07.jpg

Tollbugata
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Futurebuilt08.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Futurebuilt/Futurebuilt09.jpg

New renderings of the last residential development on Union Brygge came with the sales prospect.
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/Pir703.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/Pir701.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/Pir701.jpg

A new square just outside my flat :cheers:

--WHITE--

But, yes, it's nice and urban!:)

Inspired by another tread on SSC, I made this map, coloring the built up area of Drammen metro
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/Drammenmetro.jpg

Edit: And I can already now see areas I left out...

Drammen wake up! We want news and photos.:cheers:

Point taken. When the christmas decoration is up I'll head out for some ambience & updates.

Thanx kjetilab.:cheers1: I like your photos, Drammen looks nice.:)

We'll start off with a map for all of you not intimately familiar with Drammen
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/Drammensentrum.jpg

1. Preliminary work on the site for the new parking house on Strømsø has started.. Ground breaking should be in the nearest future.
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/desember003.jpg

2. Pairbredden 2 (stage 1) is now topped out, and cladding is well under way.
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/desember005.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/desember007.jpg

3. The new city block in Cappelens gate is progressing...
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/desember009.jpg

4. Engenekvartalet is basically completed by now.
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/desember013.jpg

5. Losjeplassen park is rising steadily
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/desember014.jpg

Bonus!
And just a nice building (all though in need of some maintainance). The old Drammen Elektrisitetsverk
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/desember016.jpg

All pictures are my own.

Strøm Gundersen bygger Pir 7 (http://www.bygg.no/2011/12/stroem-gundersen-bygger-pir-7-i-drammen-)

Construction started on monday, December 5th

Snøhetta lyser opp Mjøndalsbrua (http://dt.no/nyheter/snohetta-lyser-opp-brua-1.6666506)

Engenekvartalet and Pairbredden 2 look great.:cheers:

Construction update:

Papirbredden 2
Full height view
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/Papirbredden01-1.jpg

How it will fit into the surroundings
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/Papirbredden02-1.jpg

To the left construction have started on Stage 2
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/Papirbredden03-1.jpg

Pir 7
Ground works have started on the plot
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/Pir7.jpg

Engenekvartalet
Just another shot of the completed building
EDIT: Building presentation on Bygg.no (http://www.bygg.no/prosjekter/engene-kvartalet)
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/Drammen/Engenekvartalet01-1.jpg

All pictures are mye own.

Enighet om utvikling i Drammen (http://www.jernbaneverket.no/no/Nyheter/Nyhetsarkiv/2012/Enighet-om-utvikling-i-Drammen/)

^^

Meglerne hilser boligplaner velkommen (http://dt.no/forbruker/bolig-og-interi%C3%B8r/meglerne-hilser-boligplaner-velkommen-1.6750330)

So, how will this area be transformed? Is Alt arkitekturs proposal (http://www.alt.as/prosjekt.php?id=21) the current one?

ALTs proposal looks nice and urban.