For Posterity's sake, here's Architect James Law (http://www.jameslawcybertecture.com/)'s design submission for the MMRDA's Iconic Tower project: a 1 km tall tower.

It's my favorite design, but I'm a sucker for organic architecture

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/7884/wadala.jpg

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/6324/temp2l.jpg

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/4669/temp1o.jpg

This reminds me of the outlandish proposal 'Dubai city tower' at the peak of Dubai's boom.
God know how many boom-and-bust property cycles that would have to go through during construction to ultimately come to fruition. (Same goes for Law's MMRDA proposal)

http://i36.tinypic.com/34t4sw1.jpg
http://i35.tinypic.com/16ktm35.jpg
http://i33.tinypic.com/2w6ay41.jpg
http://i33.tinypic.com/bga5a0.jpg
http://i35.tinypic.com/2yv8i0w.jpg
http://i38.tinypic.com/ruacnn.jpg

^^WOW it's 3 times the size of burj khalifa, i wish if not this or something like this gets built in our lifetime something as big and outlandish as that.

^^ Amen _/\_

hey remember you told me the hindi the word for umami or soffrito,
y'konow the essential 'good tastyness' of the food.
What was it again?
and hows your island?

:lol:
here too??

^^WOW it's 3 times the size of burj khalifa, i wish if not this or something like this gets built in our lifetime something as big and outlandish as that.
I like the idea of Shimizu Mega-City Pyramid better :)

Looks like it will be a while before anything happens at the site -

MMRDA: Metro our first priority (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/MMRDA-Metro-our-first-priority/articleshow/7840885.cms)

MUMBAI: The Metro line is our first in priority; the Iconic Towers planned for Wadala come next. This was stated by Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority (MMRDA) officials while discussing details of a casting yard being used for building the Metro's first line.

A part of the land for the casting yard also has to be used for building the iconic tower at Wadala, which is set to be India's tallest building. Since the work for the Metro is still in progress, MMRDA officials have said the construction of the tower will have to wait. Denying any political pressure ahead of municipal polls, the officials said completing the Metro was their main concern as it will provide relief to commuters. "The builders of the tower can begin work after Mumbai Metro One (MMO), which is building the Metro line, is done with the yard," said an official. MMO executives said they may have to use the casting yard for another six months to complete work.

The plot for the iconic towers has been sold to Lodha Builders who have been examining proposals from global architectural firms interested in designing the structure.

Meanwhile, the MMRDA along with principal secretary, urban development, T C Benjamin reviewed the work of the Metro at a Board of Directors meeting on Thursday. MMRDA commissioner, Rahul Asthana, said as per the information provided by MMO, about 70% of the overall work and 90% of the foundation is complete.

If they think that this will be the tallest in India, I guess they probably haven't heard of India tower. But I guess it should still be around 500m.

damn the buggers

http://www.ccmsny.org/?p=535

Height change (decreased)

Bad News....Why can't India embrace tall buildings....

lol, from 260m to 300m. This tower was destined to be a failure from the start. But I don't really care about this project, it's too close to the airport and has a bad location.

Simplex and J Kumar have moved out completely now.

http://img2.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/10045/10045382017777d1fb6f8681c7fef1fed1b32837.jpg

There is no point in discussinf abt this project! It will never happen....

this one is dead project

I heard that Lodha Group is about to begin pre-launch for the said project....can anyone verify please...

yes Lodha is or has already prelaunched this project... 10 towers of 60 floors max... good luck! but you do not have any office on-site... you need to go to the head office...

So no iconic tower then?

If not, please close this thread.

let it confirmed by lodha before closing it

why close this thread? why not change the title? :)

nope no iconic tower. But an absolutely beautiful project undertaken by MMRDA. Very green and well thought out. Atleast that is what is being said...

What? Lodha owns the land not MMDRA.

is that sold or on lease???? Govt never really sell land, but they lease it say for 99 years or so..... yup its upto the lodha how to build and what to build unless defined in lease did etc.. may be i m wrong ?

I mean Lodha now is building this project not MMRDA.

I heard Indian Government is working on a Land reform bill.....Its gonna help out India to modernize and grow in double digit rates.....I wanna see more supertalls....

Lodha is surely upto something here.....

http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/3073/20110529122301.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/803/20110529122301.jpg/)

Hmm interesting

That does look like they are onto something......Hope that is the response of competing with DB realty's India Tower.....(Supertalls)

Supertalls are not allowed after Wadala/Dadar due to the airport. But even if it was that would pretty random spot for a supertall.

Wadala: Ministry cap dwarfs iconic tower plan.

http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/wadala-ministry-cap-dwarfs-iconic-tower-plan/798754

The Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority (MMRDA) had earmarked a plot in Wadala for an iconic 101-storey building dwarfing every other high-rise in Mumbai. Now, a year after Lodha Developers clinched the plot at an eye-popping Rs 4,053 crore, the project height is set to shrink to just 30 storeys. (Iconic tower - indeed !!!!)

According to MMRDA sources, the Civil Aviation Ministry has capped the height of structures in Wadala area to a maximum of 80 m (30 floors). The developer is looking at the possibility of constructing three to four smaller buildings instead of a skyscraper, MMRDA sources stated. “There would be no iconic tower coming up on the Wadala plot any more,” confirmed MMRDA deputy commissioner AR Wankhede. He explained that even though the plot is nowhere near the funnel area (the airplane take-off and landing zone), any construction over 80 m in Wadala would interfere with the transmission of radar signals to aircraft.

The MMRDA owns a total of 62 hectares of land in Wadala. The agency was to construct an iconic 101-storey tower (531 m high) on its own but later decided to carve out a 25,000-sq-m plot and sell it to a developer who could construct one instead. Eventually, a further leeway was made by allowing the developer to construct a tower higher than 80 storeys (300 m).

The Wadala deal is a first-of-its-kind both in terms of its aggressive pricing and the 19.8 floor space index (FSI) offered on the plot as against the usual FSI of 1.33. This works out to 80 lakh sq ft of saleable area. While realty analysts have raised doubts over the viability of carrying out such massive construction on the plot without being allowed to go higher vertically, a representative from Lodha group said Singapore-based architectural firm Woha is designing its Wadala project based on the stipulated norms. “The project is still at a very nascent stage, so we cannot comment any further but we will be working on the design in keeping with the height restrictions,” he said.

While the developer has already paid Rs 400 crore to the MMRDA as upfront payment for the land, they will soon have to cough up another Rs 200 crore as part of the staggered payment model. Lodha Developers recently had a soft launch for the Wadala project where investors willing to purchase a sizable area in the project were offered rates lower than the prevailing market prices.

^^ this is the second time DGCA has interefered with such massive projects - they tried it with World One - we dont know what happened with that!!
After the India Tower fiasco - i'm really worried that the sheer number of interferences from every quarter is going to deter any more super talls!!
Waqf board, DGCA, NGOs, Medha Patkar (golibar)....its getting really frustrating to see how narrow minded and frogs-in-the-well these people are becoming!!!

From now on, we Indians must keep our mouth SHUT in international forum... we are becoming are laughing stock worldwide for our "chickening out" factor... no where else in the developed / developing countries are people so callous and corrupt..

does MMRDA even know Lodha has already soft launched the project?? and people have already started putting their money in these projects... current plan drawn by developer was to have 10 towers of 60 floors each... and i-Land is already 52 floors... plus there are a couple more 36 storey towers coming up in this area... where do these fit in...

There is no iconic tower sure... but 30 from 101 is ridiculous... someone was not working while they were drawing big plans for the area... now I am doubting the MMRDA sources in this article...

You have a serious problem in india - the Authorities are very Conservative about building high - so they sabotage the efforts of the market forces,this positive efforts to develop this city and india generally.

ha, James Law wasted a lot of time with 1000m proposal when Lodha can't even build over 80m.

zoxtannin, nobody opened a thread about this project so we spared ourselves the embarrassment. I knew it was destined to fail from the start.

Most of the Indian "Officials", "authorities" are just assholes........I don't see anything else....

c'mon guys sent e-mails or complaints to the dgca that the general public is frustrated about the capping of iconic supertalls in their city despite it is not falling under the aviation funnel area.........what the heck... in city like mumbai where land is already scarce they are not allowing commercial supertalls what that suppose to mean...........mumbai is not only city that is struggling with the aviations rules..........look at hong kong, singapore, shanghai, KL, new york etc they too have airports....c'mon guys raise your voices or show your concerns otherwise dream of supertall in our city will fade away......i know i m little bit aggressive here but i m really devastated that one by one supertall projects are being capped.....sorry again for my rookie comment in SSC.......chao!!

i have serious doubts over this news... on its authenticity...

close this thread now.

you know how much ever this sucks, it makes logical sense.

Those who are aware of the mumbai airport will know that there are two active runways. One for take off and one for landing.

The runway which is used for landing the approach is over vashi, then ghatkopar and then onto the runway

The runway which is generally used for takeoff is the one where the planes fly over chembur.

Now the problem arises if a plane has just taken off and needs to do an emergency landing and has to use the same runway, it has go across wadala and make its approach from the arabian sea. Thats where the problem arises with a building of 101 floors.

you know how much ever this sucks, it makes logical sense.

Those who are aware of the mumbai airport will know that there are two active runways. One for take off and one for landing.

The runway which is used for landing the approach is over vashi, then ghatkopar and then onto the runway

The runway which is generally used for takeoff is the one where the planes fly over chembur.

Now the problem arises if a plane has just taken off and needs to do an emergency landing and has to use the same runway, it has go across wadala and make its approach from the arabian sea. Thats where the problem arises with a building of 101 floors.



If they can have an airport like La Guardia in New York CITY!!
Then you can pretty much have a tower like this dozens of miles from the Mumbai Airport.
I smell a rat - as in "pay us bribe and we'll clear your proposal" rat!!
I Hope Lokpal comes in quickly and hunts these cretins down who put personal interests of the city/state/country over all others!!!

New airport to cut iconic tower to size.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/New-airport-to-cut-iconic-tower-to-size/articleshow/9205630.cms

The much talked-about iconic tower coming up in Wadala may not stretch to 101 floors, or 526 metres, as planned earlier but instead may have to be finally built to rather modest proportions.

Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority (MMRDA) officials connected with the project said that officials from the Central civil aviation ministry have made it clear that the earlier height will not be permissible because the tower comes within a four-km radius of the new airport coming up near Panvel.

While this warning had been sounded earlier by the Central authorities, the MMRDA had been hoping that some relaxation would be possible. "We might have to develop new plans for the project or opt for several smaller towers now," MMRDA officials said.

The MMRDA had called for bids for the construction of the tower in Wadala, which the Lodha Group won with its bid of Rs 4,053 crore. The group has been reviewing several designs by international firms for the building but has not finalized any yet. The building was slated to have both commercial establishments and residential premises. The MMRDA wanted the tower to be the tallest building in India and the third tallest in the world.

When contacted, the Lodha Group did not comment on the issue.

The Central aviation ministry has pointed out that the upcoming tower will be within 4-km radius of the new airport.

Time to close the thread?

The thread will probably stay empty for another 2 years because of the obvious delays that exist in building these things in India because of the incompetent authorities and pity there won't be another supertall.

Now this project is also in the way of the new airport at Panvel.

First of all, this needs to be removed from supertalls section, and possibly to other infrastructure section because these are probably gonna be smaller towers, and secondly the thread

lol, what? It's in the Mumbai section of the India forum. There is no "supertalls section" here.

i got a special invite from Lodha for the project (attached below)and also they have put up banners at the site will post picture tomorrow

http://img1.imagehousing.com/37/83ceba38dc342587046f3db625417efb.jpg

Expecting pics from you tomo :banana:

it may be a well kept secret, but it certainly isn't a pretty one. Ugh

So no iconic tower then?

Looks like a residential tower will be built & that of modest proportions.

Can we close this thread? Each time someone opens a question - it becomes another oft-repeated series of "its never going to happen"!!!

Yeah...Should close the thread or rename it to whatever comes up on the site.
I am very disappointed, cuz India's got a lot of catching up to do in terms of skyscrapers.. I thought Instead of building hundreds of smaller buildings, constructing dozens of supertalls is a lot better...Now its not really working out.

I think we all need to calm down :). Agree this will not be 100 floors but still the multiple towers being built will be between 40-50 floors. Anyways here are the site pics

http://i55.tinypic.com/2u47bjl.jpg
http://i51.tinypic.com/2m3pspd.jpg

80m height restriction but 40 to 50 floor towers? What is the floor to ceiling height of each floor :lol:

its meant for hobbits

I think we all need to calm down :). Agree this will not be 100 floors but still the multiple towers being built will be between 40-50 floors. Anyways here are the site pics

http://i55.tinypic.com/2u47bjl.jpg
http://i51.tinypic.com/2m3pspd.jpg

Expected more from you.

Re-name the thread since no iconic tower is being built.

this one is going to be named as Lodha Garden City....
10 towers*63floors residential + 1*47 floor commercial....

http://www.hindustantimes.com/Green-nod-for-high-rise-realty-project-at-Wadala/Article1-734119.aspx

this one is going to be named as Lodha Garden City....
10 towers*63floors residential + 1*47 floor commercial....


:eek2:
Will become a taller version of hiranandani, powai.

Holy crap, thats 630 floors of residential space all up. Is that much even needed?

I do hope the towers vary in architecture. Powai is nice, but it is a bit monolithic...

Holy crap, thats 630 floors of residential space all up. Is that much even needed?

the rates around bhakti park, wadala is not more than 15000 per sq ft...so i think demand wont be a problem unlike lower parel...

Nice....I was worried if it would be below 30 floors per building....Even if they not supertalls. I think 63 floored 10 towers is probably the next best thing after building a supertall.

I hope for a striking design without exterior concrete design.

and in the source, it says, 101 story plan was scrapped because of poor response...what happened to the disagreement with the airport.

the rates around bhakti park, wadala is not more than 15000 per sq ft...so i think demand wont be a problem unlike lower parel...

it will be in the 20-25k region.lodha commands its own premium.


630 floors and if you assume the normal 4 flats per floor you have about 2500 apartments.


The real issue at hand is, where the hell does lodha get the FSI for this?


Hiranandani powai has some 5000-6000 apartments spread over about 250 acres.



This thing is how big? from what i know (and i could be wrong) some 50 acres?

The real issue at hand is, where the hell does lodha get the FSI for this?


Hiranandani powai has some 5000-6000 apartments spread over about 250 acres.



This thing is how big? from what i know (and i could be wrong) some 50 acres?

http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/wadala-ministry-cap-dwarfs-iconic-tower-plan/798754/

FSI for dat plot is 19.8

What would I give to see this thread closed!!

What would I give to see this thread closed!!

Why does it bother you? Just don't click on it.

hmm ok that answers that

boy is this going to be cramped

Why does it bother you? Just don't click on it.
Sheer pointlessness is generally bothersome!!

Sheer pointlessness is generally bothersome!!

Well they have adjusted the title (before your post) to reflect the change in the project so it's not pointless anymore.

i mean still

63 floors and 10 buildings


that counts as a megaproject in my book

Well they have adjusted the title (before your post) to reflect the change in the project so it's not pointless anymore.

I still see this:
WADALA | Lodha Project | erst. MMRDA's Iconic tower | ??? fl | ???m | APP

I still see this:
WADALA | Lodha Project | erst. MMRDA's Iconic tower | ??? fl | ???m | APP

Guess you missed the "erst." as in erstwhile? Good to keep it so it lets people know it's the same property.

Can't wait to see the clean design....How long will it take before it leaks?!!....6 months?...

Since nothing iconic is being built, I'm closing this thread. Please carry on all discussions (if necessary) in the Mumbai Update thread. Once we have renders for the project, a new thread will be opened.

Holy crap, thats 630 floors of residential space all up. Is that much even needed?

It'll most probably be built in phases.

EDIT: This project is now called New Cuffe Parade -> Link to thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1446265)

EDIT 2:
This was the design that Gensler submitted to Lodha -

http://i41.tinypic.com/og4gl.png
-Source (http://www.ricsamericas.org/files/editor/file/News/Executive_Summary_FINAL2.pdf)