Pre-feasibility: To study whether I should study.

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I LIKE ....:lol::lol::lol:

What is the difference between a pre-feasibility study and a feasibility study?

An excuse for the government to give out more contracts to its cronies...

Png transportation masterplan also got pre pre studies..pre studies,studies,post studies

Malaysian suka studies.after 5 yr also not finished studies..then new gov or mb/pm come in go commission new study: lol:

Once and for all The malaysian gov should stay clear away from this project!Let it be a 100@private venture.If the interested parties think it financially profitable,the number add up let them spend their own money NOT a Penny of the taxpayers money should be used for this project!:ohno:Hello YTL and Genting Group u guys interested?:)

Png transportation masterplan also got pre pre studies..pre studies,studies,post studies

Malaysian suka studies.after 5 yr also not finished studies..then new gov or mb/pm come in go commission new study: lol:

counting money 'where' to go...

nah even if u call up YTL n genting or my favorite *BERJAYA*:lol:

they would want zero interest bond, gov guarantee, land along the line and so much more..
then the ticket is expensive,then got no customer, then service become shitty..
then the gov become a hero go buy it at an inflated price..yeahhh

ini wayang sudah main banyak kali lah..

Wayang Tinggi production Chapter/Episod 101!:lol:I always miss out on Berjaya Damm i wonder why ahh:nuts:

Im still not agreed with KL-singapore name, more prefered KL-JB HSR or KL-IM HSR (Iskandar Malaysia)!!!

Im still not agreed with KL-singapore name, more prefered KL-JB HSR or KL-IM HSR (Iskandar Malaysia)!!!

The name reflects the route.

Just have this ETS only..

we do not want any bullet train service because not everybody can afford to pay for the ticket price...

Just have this ETS only..

we do not want any bullet train service because not everybody can afford to pay for the ticket price...

High speed rail competes against airlines, not buses etc.

Hence, since there are many flights between KL and Singapore, safe to say if the fare is cheaper than the air ticket fare, people will take it.

Taiwan High Speed Rail construction cost is one of the most expensive in the world, yet their fare between Taipei and Kaohsiung is NT$1,490 ( RM 156 ).

If the service can take between 90 minutes and 2 hours from KL to Singapore, people will take it, if the fare is similar or slightly lower than those of THSR, because high speed rail is faster than taking plane.

High speed rail competes against airlines, not buses etc.

Hence, since there are many flights between KL and Singapore, safe to say if the fare is cheaper than the air ticket fare, people will take it.

Taiwan High Speed Rail construction cost is one of the most expensive in the world, yet their fare between Taipei and Kaohsiung is NT$1,490 ( RM 156 ).

If the service can take between 90 minutes and 2 hours from KL to Singapore, people will take it, if the fare is similar or slightly lower than those of THSR, because high speed rail is faster than taking plane.

can the normal ETS make this?
140 km/hour for normal ETS is enough...
We do not want 300 km/hour for safety reason...

And we are not like East Asia countries whereby they are more developed than us here....:)

can the normal ETS make this?
140 km/hour for normal ETS is enough...
We do not want 300 km/hour for safety reason...

And we are not like East Asia countries whereby they are more developed than us here....:)

I don't see how is it a safety issue...

ERL generally has little or no accident since the line started operation in 2002.

The line is totally fenced and I see no see reason why you question the safety as no sane person will consider to cross a line which is occupied by 300 km/h train. Even Thailand is embarking on high speed rail project, so I can't see your point.

can the normal ETS make this?
140 km/hour for normal ETS is enough...
We do not want 300 km/hour for safety reason...

And we are not like East Asia countries whereby they are more developed than us here....:)

Nope.

140 is not enough for a Singapore-KL rail to compete with air travel. Its simply not. It is perfectly fine for a regional rail but not for this service where time matters.

Beside, don't you think that aviation is way more complex and potentially risky than an HRS and Malaysia already manages to operates in it very well? If the HSR is build and operated by an experienced contractor I see no problems about it...

This HSR will need a different rail tracks..

just consider the KL - Gemas Double railway track already in progress..
Are we going to waste building another railway track for HSR service?

^^ Again. Do not think of HSR as a replacement for existing or upcoming ETS. It's NOT. It's a replacement for the air links between Sg and KL.

Hence it is NOT a waste to build new tracks.

^^ Again. Do not think of HSR as a replacement for existing or upcoming ETS. It's NOT. It's a replacement for the air links between Sg and KL.

Hence it is NOT a waste to build new tracks.

ETS is only an express intercity service..KTM narrow gauge track was the limitation and the maximum speed might be 200km/h if we have a tilting/Pendolino train..

For the speed higher than that in order to compete air links, we need to build all new track with either standard gauge or broad gauge track...Extension ERL line up to the south of peninsular creating HSR is a good option.:cheers:

^^^
Regauging alone won't work - thicker ballast + reinforced bridges and culverts are in need to ensure true high speed ...

For the case of KTMB, I'm not so sure the cost of regauging, but the preliminary estimation for SRT, regauging process alone would be soothing around 300 billion Ringgits ... I have not talked about the massive electrification on the main lines and the new power stations to support massive electrification along with EMUs + AC Electric Locos yet ... which is something about 1 Trillion Ringgit ore more

I think if the high speed rail really go ahead they won't regauge the ETS tracks for HSR, they will build another track for it. Just like the KLIA express which use the standard gauge built beside the KTM track.

^^^
Agree, those STUPID SOBs who are running Thailand right now want to do such regauge - probably the way to allow their cronies to reap Trillions Ringgit deals from regauging as well as the massive changes on rolling stocks - or radical change of the bogies ... not to mention about the massive electrification and the new per plants to support electrification

Posco plans KL ops centre for railway jobs
Sharen KaurPublished: 2011/12/23
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/POSCO21/Article/#ixzz1hN21WeHX

POSCO Engineering & Construction Co Ltd of Korea is setting up an operations centre here to jointly bid for railway projects with local parties, a key official said.

Posco and its unit Posco Engineering Co Ltd (formerly Daewo Engineering Co) have bid for system works for the Ampang light rail transit (LRT) line extension project in a consortium with Japan's Sojitz Group.

The tender closed on June 16, attracting eight bidders.

Business Times reported on Wednesday that the consortium has emerged as the odds-on favourite to win the contract, worth about RM1.1 billion.

If it wins, the LRT contract will be Posco's maiden project in Malaysia.

Posco Engineering infrastructure marketing group railway and mass transit executive vice-president Moon-Ki Kim said Posco will set up the operations centre in Ampang upon winning the LRT contract.

"We are considering the LRT contract as a base project for future railway jobs here," Moon-Ki said yesterday at a media briefing on its plans in Malaysia.

Moon-Ki said Posco is also eyeing contracts for the mass rapid transit (MRT) and the Kuala Lumpur-Singapore high-speed rail project.

Just this week, Posco submitted a pre-qualification document to MRT Co for track laying and power conductor rails for the MRT system.

Moon-Ki said the company plans to offer its expertise in electrical, mechanical and signalling system and the building of stations.

Posco has been the key contractor for several large projects in Korea, like the US$1.04 billion (RM3.31 billion) Busan-Gimhae LRT and the US$3.1 billion (RM9.86 billion) Incheon International Airport-Seoul MRT.

It is currently involved in the US$903 million (RM2.87 billion) Ui-Sinseol light rail subway, US$1.29 billion (RM4.1 billion) Daegu 3rd Metro line and the US$2 billion (RM6.36 billion) Incheon 2nd Metro line.

Besides railway projects, Posco is also targeting power plant projects and contracts for architectural design building works in Malaysia.

"We understand that Malaysian companies don't have enough technology to install power supply system. We want to come in and help them to develop the technology," Moon-Ki said.

"We see a lot of potential in Malaysia. Apart from securing projects, we will be contributing to the country's economy by providing employment and transfer of technology," he added.

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POSCO (formerly Pohang Iron and Steel Company) is a multinational steel-making company headquartered in Pohang, South Korea. It is the world's third-largest steelmaker by market value and the most profitable Asia-based steelmaker. POSCO currently operates two steel mills in South Korea, in Pohang and Gwangyang. In addition, POSCO operates a joint venture with U.S. Steel, USS-POSCO, which is located in Pittsburg, California.
With the strong Korean shipbuilding and automotive industry dependent on POSCO for steel, it has been seen as the bedrock of Korea's industrial development over the past 40 years.

SOME LATEST HSR TECHNOLOGIES
FRANCE - Alstom AGV
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Alstom AGV (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mvm84/3250721303/) by MvM84 (http://www.flickr.com/people/mvm84/), on Flickr

GERMAN - DB ICE
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Die Bahn (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kd85/4949218664/) by Krzysztof Dobrzański (http://www.flickr.com/people/kd85/), on Flickr

JAPAN - Shinkansen JR500 Series
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Construction started? You guys topic just like the project is on going....

Greater Kuala Lumpur - EPP 3: Connecting to Singapore via a high speed rail system
http://etp.pemandu.gov.my/Overview_of_NKEAs_-@-Greater_Kuala_Lumpur_-_EPP_3-;_Connecting_to_Singapore_via_a_high_speed_rail_system.aspx
Description: A High Speed Rail System to provide both non-stop services from KL to Singapore as well as intercity services

Activities Owner Remarks
Pre-Feasibility Study SPAD - Political, social,
economic impact assessment

- Transportation demand assessment

- Management model, project
economics, funding model development

- Technology characterization &
operating model
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Initiation of RfP SPAD/PEMANDU - RfP sent2 March 2011
Exercise
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LoA for Consultant SPAD - One consultant out of the 7
bids has been chosen. Award
expected by early June
_______________________________________________________________________________

Completion of Pre SPAD - Delayed till end July
Feasibility


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Greater KL/ KV and Singapore are both truly global cities. The proposed deployment of an HSR system connecting Greater KL/ KV and Singapore will connect Southeast Asia's two largest economic agglomerations and unlock economic growth in intermediate Malaysia cities. Today, over 9.2 million trips every year are taken between these two cities, with road-based travel representing the largest share at 68 percent of the market. The HSR service will essentially transform travel on the Greater KL/ KV–Singapore route by making daily travel a viable alternative. Door-to-door travel time will take just 1.5 to 2 hours, putting this route into the category of daily travel. This represents a savings of over two hours over air travel, the fastest available mode today.

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http://etp.pemandu.gov.my/Overview_of_NKEAs_-@-Greater_Kuala_Lumpur_-_EPP_3-;_Connecting_to_Singapore_via_a_high_speed_rail_system.aspx

I guess this rail would really be beneficial for towns like Muar, Batu Pahat and even Melaka. The old British rail alignment goes nowhere near these big towns, instead deep into interior.

Consultant to be appointed soon for high speed KL-Singapore rail link
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2012/3/5/business/10815138&sec=business

Expect to hit a millions jackpot if this project has to go thru ur lands from the Penang down to JB... LoL

Consultant to be appointed soon for high speed KL-Singapore rail link
By SHARIDAN M. ALI Monday March 5, 2012
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2012/3/5/business/10815138&sec=business

Contrary to recent news report, the idea for a HSR did not come from a proposal from the private sector but from the Performance Management and Delivery Unit laboratory.

...

http://biz.thestar.com.my/archives/2012/3/5/business/p1-train.JPG

“As the TaipeiKaohsiung HSR has six intermediate stops, it might be feasible for the KLSingapore HSR to have several stops before reaching Singapore,” said the source.

...

Posco has set up an operation centre in Malaysia with the intention to jointly bid for railway projects in the country with a local party, while General Electric plans to sell its locomotives.

Siemens had also voiced its interest to play a part in the high speed rail service.

...

“It is hoped that SPAD would conduct a thorough analysis and make its findings available to the public,” said the source.

nampaknya HSR di Taiwan akan jadi role model system bagi Malaysia?!!!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/TaiwanHighSpeedRail_Route_en.gif/250px-TaiwanHighSpeedRail_Route_en.gif
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_High_Speed_Rail
http://etp.pemandu.gov.my/images/articles/diagram_KGL_EPP3_1.gif
http://etp.pemandu.gov.my/Overview_of_NKEAs_-@-Greater_Kuala_Lumpur_-_EPP_3-;_Connecting_to_Singapore_via_a_high_speed_rail_system.aspx

Making Kuala Lumpur a great place to live in
Tuesday April 3, 2012
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2012/4/3/business/11034498&sec=business

The Greater Kuala Lumpur/Klang Valley NKEA 2020 targets are to be in the top 20 most livable cities list and the top 20 in economic growth.

The goals under this NKEA are to be realised through the implementation of nine Entry Point Projects (EPPs) and the two business opportunities. These include improving the city’s attractiveness to foreign multinational companies (MNCs) and foreign talent, putting in place an efficient public transport system and enhancing the ambience of the city by improving its physical environment through various initiatives.

Intensive efforts are ongoing to upgrade the water quality of Kuala Lumpur’s main rivers and beautifying and developing its surroundings via the River of Life EPP, going green through the planting of more trees in the city, developing iconic places within the city and providing comfortable walkways for the pedestrians.

There are also plans to enhance solid waste management and sewerage services for the metropolis, as well as efforts to improve housing opportunities and to vitalise Putrajaya.

It is envisaged that initiatives under the Greater Kuala Lumpur/Klang Valley NKEA would contribute RM190bil in GNI over the next 10 years and create over 300,000 jobs.

Achievements for 2011 have been good, with 16 KPIs meeting targets. Out of these, at least eight KPIs have surpassed targets.

Falling short of expectation were the KPIs for a biogas plant for food waste, improvement of pedestrian walkways, talent attraction programme and the website and portal improvement.

The Government is upping the ante with new critical targets for 2012.

This year’s KPIs include concluding Letters of Intent for 10 MNCs’ operational headquarters relocation in Greater KL/KV; 600 employment generation and 10 branding InvestKL activities.

“For the Returning Expat Programme, the KPI is to have 1,200 expatriates return to Malaysia. The Residence Pass Programme is targeting for 800 approved passes, while the Employment Pass (Category II) intends to approve 300 passes. This year will also see the development of a diaspora database,” the report said.

On infrastructure, the feasibility study for the high-speed rail was due for completion. The Government also aims to have 100% completion of land required for the Sungai Buloh-Kajang My Rapid Transit line, and all elevated civil underground and depot packages are to be awarded, among others.

This year would see completion of the Heritage Trail Route 1 (National Museum to Medan Pasar), Reviving Medan Pasar and Heritage Trail Routes two to four, as well as the upgrading of Masjid Jamek, and land matters, planning approvals and detail design for Malaysia Truly Asia Centre (MTAC).

Also, there would be a 12km upgrade of non-covered pedestrian network system.

In terms of environment protection, the Government expects 15% completion of River Beautification Construction for Phase 1 under the River of Life project, and 30,000 trees to be planted.

The Government also expects a 100% roll-out of Separation at Source Scheme (Household Wastes) in Kuala Lumpur through distribution of bins to landed property; and Issuance of Letter of Approval to successful contractor via Private Public Partnership for the setting up of Food Waste Treatment Plant (Composting or Anaerobic Digestion) for food waste.

In addition, the Government was targeting a 45% construction progress for rationalisation projects of Old Klang Road; 20% sewer rehabilitation projects in Kuala Lumpur, Shah Alam, Subang Jaya and Petaling Jaya; and 18% regionalisation of sewerage treatment Lot 130, Klang.

how about those failed projects, such as Plaza Rakyat

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Court empowered to issue injunction pending dispute resolution
October 27 2011
http://www.internationallawoffice.com/newsletters/detail.aspx?g=50564c9b-9874-4d14-952f-07534865d1dc

Section 11 of the Arbitration Act 2005 empowers the court to issue an injunction pending the resolution of disputes between parties. The High Court recently had occasion to consider the exercise of this power in Plaza Rakyat Sdn Bhd v Datuk Bandar Kuala Lumpur.

Kuala Lumpur City Hall, the defendant, is the holder of a 99-year lease on a piece of land along Jalan Pudu in the city of Kuala Lumpur. Plaza Rakyat Sdn Bhd entered into a joint venture agreement with the defendant in 1992 whereby it was to embark on an urban renewal project to transform the area into a transportation hub which would include, among other things, an integrated terminal for buses, taxis and light rail, and hotels, offices and business premises.

In turn, the defendant granted the plaintiff a registered lease of 88 years for the project. Construction work commenced in 1994 and the project was scheduled to be completed in six years. However, from 1998 until late 2009, the plaintiff was unable to proceed with further construction due to the Asian economic crisis, which resulted in the plaintiff lacking the funds to proceed. Numerous negotiations were held between the parties to restart the project. The parties attempted to enter into a supplementary agreement to grant an extension of time to the plaintiff to complete the project, and to enter into a fresh development agreement, a novation agreement and a privatisation agreement. All attempts were subsequently abandoned by the parties.

In 2010 the defendant sought to terminate the joint venture agreement and the lease and gave notice to take possession of the land. The plaintiff invoked the arbitration clause in the joint venture agreement and the lease agreement and sought an interim injunction to prevent the defendant from repossessing the land, pending the resolution of the dispute by arbitration.

The defendant raised a challenge that the injunction ought not to be granted on the basis that the right to repossess the land constituted a self-help remedy and should not be restrained by injunction. The court did not accept the defendant's challenge and granted the injunction, thereby preserving the subject matter of the arbitration. In granting the injunction, the court took into consideration the definition of 'public interest' in this context; it was concerned why the defendant was now in a hurry to complete the project after it had previously failed to take action against the plaintiff following the expiry of the six-year contractual period and a further lapse of 13 years.

The court took the view that if the arbitral tribunal made a decision against the defendant, the damages that the defendant would be required to pay would be large and would ultimately come out of public funds. On this basis, the court felt that the grant of interim relief by way of an injunction was in order pending the reference to arbitration.

Malaysia still keen on high-speed rail link
By Sharen Kaur Published: 2012/04/09
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/20120409004713/Article/index_html

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The government is still keen on the high-speed rail project linking Kuala Lumpur and Singapore, the Land Public Transport Commission (SPAD) said.

SPAD chief executive officer Mohd Nur Ismal Mohamed Kamal, however, stressed that it will depend on the outcome of a feasibility study.

Mohd Nur Ismal confirmed that the feasibility study, which started last month, will take six to 12 months to complete.

The aspects under consideration include the alignment, cost, benefits, risks, economic impact and ridership.

“We need to examine the numbers in more detail. Our mandate is to find the best way to implement the project, if it is given the go ahead.

“It will be done in a transparent way where there will be a tender process and bidding,” Mohd Nur Ismal told Business Times.

The government reiterated in November 2011 that it may go ahead with the project but recently said the rail network is not a priority for now.

The focus currently is to link Johor Baru and Singapore first with a rapid transit system by 2018 as part of efforts to increase connectivity between the two cities.

The high-speed rail network has been highlighted as a high-impact project in the government’s Economic Transformation
Programme.

Three groups have made presentations on the project to the National Key Economic Area laboratory.

They are UEM Group-Hartasuma Sdn Bhd, China Infraglobe Consortium-Global Rail Sdn Bhd and YTL Corp Bhd.

Some of them said they would not be making further commitments on the project unless there is certainty it will kick off in the
next two to three years and there is some form of government involvement.

“It is not viable for private parties to take control of the project. At around RM12 billion, you cannot get your returns fast as the service is more for the public,” said one company.

Mohd Nur Ismal said the high-speed rail project will not be driven by any private sector proposals.

“There will be many more proposals coming in but no one will drive the project except the government. The outcome of the project will depend on the government,” he added.

^^

Want to do so many things in one go? Ade duit tak?
Just concentrate on the KL LRT extension and SBK MRT first lah.

Harap jangan sekali after GE, semua projek henti.

^^ Blow-hard got thick skin and won't mind making empty big promises, in other words lying! Project will happen but wait long long. Juz hope 2018 we really see a new connectivity btw JB n S'pore.

The Klang Valley population is already most or less 7 mil. The Population of Singapore (5 mil) and JB (1.5 mil) is also about 7 mil. Sooner or later each metropolitan will reach 10mil. This fast speed train track is necessary.

so many feasibility studies were done since paklah era. But none materialized. Go fish lah. Same news all over again. This is just gimmick.

Wayang Tinggi Production !Since when is the government in the HSR business?If YTL gatal got so much money let them go ahead with itlah.I guarantee u 1000%they wont build it if its (YTL) their money!

Already lost hope for this to ever come true..

Sometime in the near future i see it happening:)The magic will happen when congestion at changi and sepang get out of control:lol:

^^ Changi is already reaching its capacity. Terminals are huge indeed so you don't feel that inside, but the limited apron space and runways are already bursting in seams. I know that cos my father flies with Silkair and he keeps complaining how clogged the taxiways are getting. Reducing the KL flights would definitely help as they're pretty damn frequent.

I know there has been a lot of delays lately!But it will take forever for KLIA to ever get to that stage!:lol:Politically i dont think they have the guts to go ahead with it on this side of the causeway,Those clowns at MAHB knows well enough it will be doom and gloom for KLIA if it happens:lol:

The ticket price for this train will definitely be equal if not more than the lowcost airfare. Unlikely for MAHB to suffer much.

More likely this will be a loss making enterprise for many years

I think airport's cannibalization argument does not hold water. We should look at bigger picture, that is providing the public alternative mean to travel between two cities. London and Paris are just 3 hours away by train, I don't see CDG and LHR competing neck to neck for traffic, each has their own strength and the economy between 2 countries are almost equally strong. AMS and CDG are about the same distance, yet they can live on their own. No doubt European economy are more mature and balanced compared to SEA, but since high speed rail is long term investment, by all means, i like to see them (gomen or private) build them and reap the benefit some other time, later.

I think i don't have any problem paying a little bit extra to travel on train that would take 3 hours journey from KL to Singapore. One prove is the ETS service. Tickets for KL bound buses from Ipoh is still RM 17 (or 21) and ETS costs you RM 39 for the same 2 hour journey but still on weekends ticket always sold out, we are not talking about school holidays but on normal weekends. People are willing to fork extra for comfort, safety ease of travel. Judging that you have to check in at least one hour before flight, that would take 2 hours plus from SIN to KL city, and if it's 3 hours on train, the time is negligible. You don't have to worry about where to put your aerosol deodorant, your perfume, and your swiss knife would not been confiscated by the bloody paranoid airport security. In much more simple words, i prefer trains for ease of use, albeit paying extra, than using an airline. The hassles to check in, boarding, delay, disembark, customs..urghh..i've had too much of it.

I totally agree!China money@Trans Asia Rail-link will be the trump-card for this to happen sooner.I just love the idea of going down to Singapore for a business meeting /lunch under half a day instead of spending my time on the highways and airports!Limit the stops to not more than 2 and the trip should not take more than 2 hours to complete should do it for me:)

if u guys wanna 3 hours long train journey from KL to Sg, u do not need high speed rail, u just need KTM EDT jer

if u guys wanna 3 hours long train journey from KL to Sg, u do not need high speed rail, u just need KTM EDT jer

Impossible, ktm narrow gauge limits the train speed up to 160km/h and below..you may need either standard or broad gauge if you want higher speed..to meet 2hrs journey kl-Sg, the train must be running at the speed of 250km/h roughly..it was also not feasible if there was no stop or station in between :cheers:

if u guys wanna 3 hours long train journey from KL to Sg, u do not need high speed rail, u just need KTM EDT jer

Unlikely.

KTM track will only end at JB Sentral and.....140 km/h will make the journey within 3 hours, not 3 hours.

Another issue is that KTM track between KL Sentral and Seremban is quite congested.

Proposal with minimal Govt funding favoured for high-speed KL-S'pore rail bids
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2012/4/19/business/11130275&sec=business

High speed line to Singapore back on agenda, IRG, 14 May 2012
MALAYSIA: Addressing delegates at the second Modern Railways conference in Kuala Lumpur on May 14, Malaysian Transport Minister Kong Cho Ha confirmed that the government was evaluating the potential for a high speed line between the capital and Singapore.

‘We feel it is just a matter of time before the link is implemented’, he suggested, before warning that the project would require a huge amount of preparatory work to address issues such as alignment, land appropriation and the location of terminus stations. Kong reported that discussions were underway with ‘all stakeholders’, including the Singapore government.

Insisting that any high speed rail programme must be integrated with the domestic transport agenda, Kong added that it could not be considered an ‘either/or’ investment. ‘As a forward-looking government we don't think that way. We have to look at all these things.’

In the short term, he said, the Ministry of Transport is focused on three priority projects to boost rail capacity across the Klang Valley. KTMB’s suburban operations are being strengthened with the delivery of 38 six-car EMUs from CSR Zhuzhou; the fleet expected to be in traffic by the end of September. This should enable the launch of 10 min headways on KTMB Komuter services at peak periods.

This will complement the Putra Heights extensions of the city’s existing Kelana Jaya and Ampang metro lines, whilst additional rolling stock is also being delivered for the 9 km Titiwangsa – Sentral monorail. Kong also restated the government’s commitment to build a 51 km metro route from Sungai Buloh to Kajang under the MY Rapid Transit programme, of which the first stage is already getting underway.

Meanwhile, local media reports suggest that construction and port operations group MMC Corp is undertaking due diligence to take up an operating contract covering the suburban services currently run by KTMB. Potentially worth up to 1bn ringgit, the concession could be let as part of the government’s efforts to stem annual losses of up to 200m ringgit at the state railway.

I think i don't have any problem paying a little bit extra to travel on train that would take 3 hours journey from KL to Singapore. One prove is the ETS service. Tickets for KL bound buses from Ipoh is still RM 17 (or 21) and ETS costs you RM 39 for the same 2 hour journey but still on weekends ticket always sold out, we are not talking about school holidays but on normal weekends. People are willing to fork extra for comfort, safety ease of travel. Judging that you have to check in at least one hour before flight, that would take 2 hours plus from SIN to KL city, and if it's 3 hours on train, the time is negligible. You don't have to worry about where to put your aerosol deodorant, your perfume, and your swiss knife would not been confiscated by the bloody paranoid airport security. In much more simple words, i prefer trains for ease of use, albeit paying extra, than using an airline. The hassles to check in, boarding, delay, disembark, customs..urghh..i've had too much of it.

I too would prefer the high speed train service as there is so much hassles with the plane, not to mention occasional delay which will take additional hours. Practically, aeroplane is not an efficient or quick as it seem especially over shorter distance (eg. within peninsular and singapore).
that why i cannot comprehend why authority is not focusing on the train mode seeing that most developed country (excerpt USA) have a good train system.

I too would prefer the high speed train service as there is so much hassles with the plane, not to mention occasional delay which will take additional hours. Practically, aeroplane is not an efficient or quick as it seem especially over shorter distance (eg. within peninsular and singapore).
that why i cannot comprehend why authority is not focusing on the train mode seeing that most developed country (excerpt USA) have a good train system.

One obvious reason: protectionism... MAS is owned by whom?? And before this year... Proton was owned by whom?? Well, then make that 2 reasons.

One obvious reason: protectionism... MAS is owned by whom?? And before this year... Proton was owned by whom?? Well, then make that 2 reasons.

one solution... make this high speed rail link own by najib family

one solution... make this high speed rail link own by najib family

Who wanna own a very public but not really profitable bussiness

HSR isn't really a money making bussiness. In fact i guess, none are making $$$..

:)
Japanese government markets Shinkansen for Malaysia – Singapore HSR
http://www.nikkei.com/news/category/article/g=96958A9C93819481E0E1E2E2888DE0E1E2E7E0E2E3E09793E3E2E2E2;av=ALL



This is for the proposed 400 km route that would link Kuala Lumpur and Singapore in about 1.5 hrs. The Japanese government will perform its own independent feasibility analysis of the project this fiscal year to assist Japanese firms looking to participate, and will consider the possibility of providing financing through the Japan Bank for International Cooperation should JR Central or JR East win orders for the project.