So Austin officially has it's first 100K+ suburb. The census bureau released it latest estimates for cities today, and Round Rock was estimated at 104,446 as of July 2008 (the estimates are always a year behind). Austin was estimated to be at 757,688.
http://www.census.gov/popest/cities/SUB-EST2008.html

CENSUS 2008 ESTIMATES
Texas growth by the numbers
Wednesday, July 01, 2009

The U.S. Census Bureau is reporting today that Round Rock is the second fastest-growing big city in the nation. New Orleans is the leader, growing 8.2 percent to 311,853 residents.

Four of the country's 10 fastest-growing large cities were in Texas. Central Texas leads the state in percentage growth, probably because the Austin-Round Rock area continues to add jobs.

Estimate Change '07-'08 Percentage '07-'08

Round Rock 104,446 +7,877 +8.2%

Austin 757,688 +18,461 +2.5%

Source: U.S. Census Bureau
http://www.statesman.com/news/conten...701census.html

Thanks for the link. Its always good to get the "official" estimates. I see Louisville is in at number 30 in the rankings. For some reason - after the merger a few years ago - I kept seeking statements about the new merged city of Louisville being the "16th largest city in the country". Not sure where that number came from. Now we know its official ranking is number 30.

Here is Alabama's:

http://www.census.gov/popest/cities/tables/SUB-EST2008-04-01.xls (Excel file)

Birmingham and Mobile's populations are still declining, Montgomery is stagnant, and Huntsville is growing quite a bit.

Where are all these people in Auburn and Tuscaloosa coming from?? :O +13K for Auburn, +12K for Tuscaloosa. (Do these figures count undergraduate students, even those that are permanent residents of other places?)

Here are the ten cities in AL that had the most raw growth from 2000 to 2008.

Columns are: city | 2008 est. | 2000 base est. | # change | % change


Huntsville city 176,645 159,912 16,733 10.46%
Tuscaloosa city 90,221 77,925 12,296 15.78%
Auburn city 56,088 45,768 10,320 22.55%
Madison city 38,714 29,320 9,394 32.04%
Dothan city 66,505 58,086 8,419 14.49%
Hoover city 71,020 63,250 7,770 12.28%
Calera city 10,742 3,451 7,291 211.27%
Pelham city 21,266 14,394 6,872 47.74%
Prattville city 32,480 25,976 6,504 25.04%
Millbrook city 16,640 11,120 5,520 49.64%


Here are the ten cities in AL that had the greatest % growth from 2000 to 2008, same column format.


Calera city 10,742 3,451 7,291 211.27%
Vance town 945 500 445 89.00%
Gulf Shores 10,248 5,707 4,541 79.57%
Pine Apple town 305 172 133 77.33%
Lake View town 2,323 1,357 966 71.19%
Priceville town 2,814 1,651 1,163 70.44%
Moody city 13,400 8,053 5,347 66.40%
Pike Road town 513 310 203 65.48%
Foley city 13,807 8,440 5,367 63.59%
Orange Beach 6,231 3,858 2,373 61.51%

Looks like its going to be quite a while before any cities in Florida reach a population of 1 million. :ohno:

^ Jacksonville maybe the only city in Florida to reach 1 million but they are short by 192,000 people. They only added 4300 people last year so at that rate Jax should hit 1 million at mid century.

GarfieldPark these rankings are for 1 year growth only from 2007 to 2008. It has nothing to do with where Louisville ranks population wise.

Strange thing about Jax's population is that the city and county are one in the same. :weird:

Those estimates are already out dated for some cities. The census estimates show Greensboro with 250,000 people. Now the city has 260,000 because of an annexation that brought 10,000 people into the city. There is a similar situation with Winston-Salem. The census estimate there is 217,000 but after annexations its actually more like 228,000. The city of Winston-Salem is contesting the estimates which is understandable. The census estimates makes Winston-Salem the 5th largest city in the state while the actual estimates make it the 4th. The reason is Durham. Durham has 223,000 people and the two cities have been fighting back and forth for fourth largest city in NC. In elementary school in NC, students are taught about NC's "five major" cities (Charlotte, Raleigh, Greensboro, Winston-Salem, Durham) So if you are in 5th place its like being in last place.

Yeah, I mentioned in the original post that the data is from July 2008. That is the latest information from the US Census Bureau. It was just released yesterday.

BobDreamz: "GarfieldPark these rankings are for 1 year growth only from 2007 to 2008. It has nothing to do with where Louisville ranks population wise."

No --- the list that I opened in the attached census data in Nic's first post had a table that listed cities with their estimated 2008 population, and they were ranked by population. (Another one of the linked tables listed cities by percentage change in population.) Louisville was 30th in the list of cities for total population, right between Portland, OR and Oklahoma City, OK.

Lexington passed St. Paul, MN. That sort of surprises me

BobDreamz: "GarfieldPark these rankings are for 1 year growth only from 2007 to 2008. It has nothing to do with where Louisville ranks population wise."

No --- the list that I opened in the attached census data in Nic's first post had a table that listed cities with their estimated 2008 population, and they were ranked by population. (Another one of the linked tables listed cities by percentage change in population.) Louisville was 30th in the list of cities for total population, right between Portland, OR and Oklahoma City, OK.

I stand corrected, my bad.

Strange thing about Jax's population is that the city and county are one in the same. :weird:

Close, but not really. There are five municipalities in Duval County. They are Jacksonville, Jacksonville Beach, Atlantic Beach, Neptune Beach and Baldwin. The beach communities and Baldwin refused to consolidate with Jacksonville in the 1968 merger with Duval County.

New Orleans is disputing the number, as well. It's about $$$, as in all places that dispute. Who really knows about New Orleans? We're about 350,000 today, based on alot of different statistics, but, to me, know one really knows. We'll find out more truth next year with the census. Katrina really whacked things out, and all I've really heard since then is nothing but a bunch of guestimates. For someone who lives here, I know traffic is bad and the city never sleeps. It feels like a big city. And I just live my life, just like I did before the storm in 2005.

Close, but not really. There are five municipalities in Duval County. They are Jacksonville, Jacksonville Beach, Atlantic Beach, Neptune Beach and Baldwin. The beach communities and Baldwin refused to consolidate with Jacksonville in the 1968 merger with Duval County.

Thanks Lakelander, I forgot about the other 4 municipalities in Duval County. With a little over 800k residents living in an area of around 885 sq. miles, for its size, Jacksonville must have one of the lowest population densities in the country. :ohno:

Thanks Lakelander, I forgot about the other 4 municipalities in Duval County. With a little over 800k residents living in an area of around 885 sq. miles, for its size, Jacksonville must have one of the lowest population densities in the country. :ohno:

This is true, but, it's still a decent sized city that DOES host an NFL team. However, density does relay alot of information....all of the southshore of Lake Pontchartrain in metro New Orleans is populated by around 1 million people, but, it is totally encompassed in an area of around 110 square miles of inhabited land...the rest of the land area is swampland that is there for the alligators. The City of New Orleans (181 sq. miles) is only inhabited by humans in 1/3 of the total land area. The other 2/3's is protected swampland for the wildlife. Many do not realize this fact.

If one includes the entire MSA, New Orleans should be approaching 1.15-1.2M.

DOES host an NFL team.

So does Green Bay, WI and Buffalo, NY. New Orleans too, but Los Angeles does not.:lol:

Thanks Lakelander, I forgot about the other 4 municipalities in Duval County. With a little over 800k residents living in an area of around 885 sq. miles, for its size, Jacksonville must have one of the lowest population densities in the country. :ohno:

When you merge a compact 35 square mile, medium sized city with a +757 sq mile sprawling county, you overall density numbers will take a hit. Nevertheless, most of Duval County is still undeveloped or can't be developed (marsh, wetlands, watersheds, etc.). Of course its no New Orleans or Miami, but even today, Jax's urban population density is higher than several sunbelt counterparts, including Atlanta, Charlotte, Raleigh and Nashville.

^^Lexington is in the same boat. Two thirds of Fayette County are outside the Urban Service Area (equivalent of a city limit) but those farms are counted into the density numbers.

We officially have 900 or so persons per square mile. But if you only count the Urban service area and its population the number is in the mid-2,000's. Still not terribly impressive but its no 900.

hampton roads census estimate also known as virginia beach-norfolk- newport news MSA:1,795,015 in about 1200 sq. miles. urban population 1.2 million. our density is a lot higher than it actually is because the whole southern part of the city of virginia beach is protected wetlands, we have a semi rural city included in the metro, ect.. norfolk has 4400/ persons per sq. mile. population 240,000. virginia beach has 440,000. 1712/ persons per sq. mile.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk12/baseballgrayson/2869086483_449398fae2-1.jpg

What?! Why not put the limit at 90,000... My city's population is about 92,000 (with the entire metro area being about 250,000) and so naturally it's not on the list...

memphis, tn ---729,772 (shelby county) ---921,902
nashville-davidson county, tn ---549,621
knoxville, tn -176,300
chattanooga, tn ---156,243
clarksville, tn ---129,387

memphis, tn ---729,772 (shelby county) ---921,902
nashville-davidson county, tn ---549,621
knoxville, tn -176,300
chattanooga, tn ---156,243
clarksville, tn ---129,387

What is your source? The US Census Bureau gives these estimates for 2008.

Shelby - 906,825; est. growth since 2000: 9K... Memphis - 669,651; est. growth since 1990: 49K
Davidson - 626,144; est. growth since 2000: 57K... Nashville city - 596,462; est. growth since 1990: 108K
Hamilton - 332,848; est. growth since 2000: 25K.... Chattanooga city - 170,880; est. growth since 1990: 18K
Knox - 430,019; est. growth since 2000: 48K... Knoxville city - 184,802; est. growth since 1990: 20K
Montgomery - 154,756; est. growth since 2000: 20K... Clarksville city - 119,735; est. growth since 1990: 45K
Rutherford - 249,270; est. growth since 2000: 67K... Murfreesboro city - 101,753; est. growth since 1990: 56K
Williamson - 171,452; est. growth since 2000: 45K... Franklin city - 58,481; est. growth since 1990: 38K

Adding a couple more...

Sumner - 155,500; est. growth since 2000: 25K
Wilson - 110,000; est. growth since 2000: 21K
Blount - 121,000; est. growth since 2000: 16K
Washington - 119,000; est. growth since 2000: 12K
Sullivan - 154,000; est. growth since 2000: 1K
Bradley - 96,500; est. growth since 2000: 9K
Madison - 96,400; est. growth since 2000: 5K
Cumberland - 53,600; est. growth since 2000: 7K
Robertson - 65,000; est. growth since 2000: 10K
Dickson - 48,000; est. growth since 2000: 5K
Cheatham - 39,400; est. growth since 2000: 4K

Most of these numbers will most assuredly come in at higher actual levels than project in 2010, as TN historically does not track population estimates well. The trends bear out the same thing happening with special censuses being significantly greater than the estimates. Our growth projections at my employer (a bank) show Davidson with more than 650K in 2010.