I and some other SSC-member(s) have noticed that the Forum is so boring the last few days/weeks. Therefore we want to create this thread (I will not tell you who this person is >> but it's not casaMor:lol:) I hope this will spice it up for a while:lol:

Please give us your opinion???

Of course, it must ! Legalizing homosexuality is a tremendous leap in Democracy. Jordan, Irak and West Bank have homosexuality legal, and India legalized it last week. So why not us ?

:lol: YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! :lol:

^ :lol:

A resounding yes! But I think it will not happen in this century.

A resounding yes! But I think it will not happen in this century.

Why not DepressedAli??

A resounding yes! But I think it will not happen in this century.

Yeah, I agree, there's still too much work, as I have been saying : illiteracy is the main problem.

Why not DepressedAli??

because of enlightened intellectuals like jebli1989

^^ :lol: Absolutly! :lol:

sure why not but I do not care
morocco will last nation to legalize it ? or are there other nations that where it is illegal ?

All muslims nations...! ;)

All muslims nations...! ;)
I did not know that

so why is it marrakech so many gays go there and love it ?? but yet it is illegal

because of enlightened intellectuals like jebli1989

:lol: Indeed!

Why not DepressedAli??

Because of the evolution theory. Meaning, we will first experience dimocracy (hopefully soon) and because of the low literacy rates we have, Moroccans will choose a conservative government. Like what is happening in Iran, people will turn to liberals and then and only then Homosexuality will be legalized. Its evolution! This will take three to four generations :)

so why is it marrakech so many gays go there and love it ?? but yet it is illegal

Because moroccans are more and more tolerants! When you go to a nightclub or a pub, you find a lot of gays and none cares about that, like they were straights! ;)

All muslims nations...! ;)

Turkey and Indonesia I think they don't prohibit homosexuality. I am not sure about Iraq and Jordan and West Bank!

I always wonder why people who oppose things with a "holy" tone (such as Jebli & Co) why are they respected & overvalued, & their voice echoed strong and penetrate the flux of common sense as if it is something credible to worship? it's just religious pathos! aka insanity trying to make some sense by crying and shouting.

I vote yes! should be legal! it's no ones business! if you're scared for your kids, then don't be a lazy pinhead and educate them right. If you're scared for yourself than you're already gay :D

Homosexuality in Morocco, & generally 3rd world and Muslim countries.. it is more linked to "feminism" or behaving like the 1/2-minded shameful women :D that's the one our culture frowns upon. To be a homosexual masculine talking and behaving man's man is fine! To be a faggety little miss sunshine diva well now there's a problem lol

Btw Bruno is coming out this Friday! I read Borat was not exhibited in Morocco?? is it true? which means Bruno will have same fate! :ohno:

All muslims nations...! ;)

Not all ! Jordan, West Bank, Indonesia and Irak have homosexuality legal. And some big secular countries where the majority is muslim too, e.g. : Turkey, etc.

Homosexuals should be able to do their things inside their homes but not on our steats.

Btw Bruno is coming out this Friday! I read Borat was not exhibited in Morocco?? is it true? which means Bruno will have same fate! :ohno:

Really ? Why is he coming to Morocco ?

Not all ! Jordan, West Bank, Indonesia and Irak have homosexuality legal. And some big secular countries where the majority is muslim too, e.g. : Turkey, etc.

They are not 100% muslims!
I was talking about big muslim nations like Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Tunisia, Kuwait, UAE and MOROCCOOOOO! :lol: :lol: ;)

They are not 100% muslims!
I was talking about big muslim nations like Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Tunisia, Kuwait, UAE and MOROCCOOOOO! :lol: :lol: ;)

Turkey is 99,8% muslim, more then Morocco

Turkey is 99,8% muslim, more then Morocco

You took words out of my mouth ! :p

You took words out of my mouth ! :p

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I've noticed on SSC lots of people think Turkish people are not religious...I'm from Rotterdam and this is little Turkey really!! I grew up with them and in my hole life I neverrr seen a non-religous Turk. Some weeks ago I returnd from Istanbul its verry modern but there are suburbs in Istanbul that look like Iran/KSA :)

Morocco is a muslim country and homosexuality is against the islamic values,If you are really a muslim,a christian or a jewish you wouldn't agree with homosexuality,we should love what God love and hate what God hates and homosexuality is one of the things that He hate

^^ He hates you too, that's why you are so stupid! :lol: :lol:

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I've noticed on SSC lots of people think Turkish people are not religious...I'm from Rotterdam and this is little Turkey really!! I grew up with them and in my hole life I neverrr seen a non-religous Turk. Some weeks ago I returnd from Istanbul its verry modern but there are suburbs in Istanbul that look like Iran/KSA :)

yeah I've heard the same thing too, it doesnt help that most of the Turkish forums on SSC are very secular and Western so it seems like the represent the majority of Turks but I think not :)

If Morocco doesn't legalize homosexuality, maybe casamor and others should apply for asylum in San Francisco, my city, which is the gayest city in the world!!!!:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Or maybe stay in Morocco and I will support his nomination for Moroccan official Ambassador of Gayness:lol:

But to answer the original question, sure why not?

They are not 100% muslims!
I was talking about big muslim nations like Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Tunisia, Kuwait, UAE and MOROCCOOOOO! :lol: :lol: ;)

Egypt is ten percent coptic christian idiota!!!!:lol: I love Jesus christ my lord!!!!!:lol:

:lol::lol:If Morocco doesn't legalize homosexuality, maybe casamor and others should apply for asylum in San Francisco, my city, which is the gayest city in the world!!!!:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Or maybe stay in Morocco and I will support his nomination for Moroccan official Ambassador of Gayness:lol:

But to answer the original question, sure why not?

:lol::lol: >> Are you from San Fransisco?? This explains why you are very gay

Really ? Why is he coming to Morocco ?

His movie is coming out which is a candid comedy using a gay character in funny homophobic gay situations.

fAGpmNb2xfQ

Borat was one of the funniest movies ever. This is the follow up to Borat.

^^ He hates you too, that's why you are so stupid! :lol: :lol:

I don't think so,I think God hate you because you are homosexual and an alcoholic and I'm sure If you do not change you'll burn in hell

Morocco is a muslim country and homosexuality is against the islamic values,If you are really a muslim,a christian or a jewish you wouldn't agree with homosexuality,we should love what God love and hate what God hates and homosexuality is one of the things that He hate

Bla, bla, bla :ohno:
Perfect stupid guy, who uses the religion for a problem with his own sexuality.
If you are straight why homosexuality is a problem for you ?
Furthermore islam forbids to interfere in the private life of somebody else !

Bla, bla, bla :ohno:
Perfect stupid guy, who uses the religion for a problem with his own sexuality.
If you are straight why homosexuality is a problem for you ?
Furthermore islam forbids to interfere in the private life of somebody else !

You made a point about not interfering into somebodies own life!!

I don't think so,I think God hate you because you are homosexual and an alcoholic and I'm sure If you do not change you'll burn in hell

Oh really? I'm affraid! :lol: :lol: Look you little hmar, stop disturbing the forum with your stupid comments or the mods will bannish you! ;)

His movie is coming out which is a candid comedy using a gay character in funny homophobic gay situations.

fAGpmNb2xfQ

Borat was one of the funniest movies ever. This is the follow up to Borat.

OMG ! The Australian accent ! :lol:

making homosexuality legal will not make morocco more/less democratic...more/less islamic....better/worse place to live in
just look at brazil where hokmosexuality is legal and yet it is not a great place to live in esp for gays.

sooo if your reasons of legalising it is to make morocco 'appear' more democratic, western then it is a definite NOOOOOOOOOO

but i think in morocco it should be tolerated BUT not as a way of life

i just don't like fads coming over from the west to impose ideas on our moroccan society

this is my opinion and is not meant to insulting anyone esp as i my best friend is gay and he knows where i stand on this....

Ofcourse it should be legal!!! What the heck. I just don't understand people who's against it!
People should live their life like they want dosent matter what ever they are, and we should not be the one's to judge them. Who are we GOD!!!? :ohno:
If it's "harram" then it's god's job to judge them.

guys (and gays!!)

lets not be nasty to each other and lets keep religion out of this.

Ofcourse it should be NOT BE legal!!! What the heck. I just don't understand people who's FOR it!

Chamal Nr1

I played with your words...
i was asked my opinion and i told it as it is...what do you expect me to say? do i have to agree with you? Nooo

i am not here to make you or anyone else happy....it is just an opinion and if you can not understand and accept that then that is a shame!!

They are not 100% muslims!
I was talking about big muslim nations like Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Tunisia, Kuwait, UAE and MOROCCOOOOO! :lol: :lol: ;)

Big muslim countries according to Casamor: Tunisia, UAE and Kuwait!!:lol::lol::lol:

Big muslim countries according to Casamor: Tunisia, UAE and Kuwait!!:lol::lol::lol:

Je t'expliquerai! :lol:
Arrête de te foutre de ma gueule! ;)

Look i dnt have anything against "gays" however recognition of homosexuality will never be exepted in anymuslim nation. If Morocco was to leagalize homosexuality the nation would be Completetly Santioned by its Muslim neighbors, and imagine the reaction of the society!! Civil war will ravage the nation and could easily lead to the overthrough of the monarchy!! Not that the king would even contemplate leagalising anything like that.

Homosexuality is considered "tabo" in the muslim world and rightly so...

what's next to legalize? pedophilia?

what's next to legalize? pedophilia?

:lol::lol: No I think next will be the first Gay on the moon :lol:

of course not
should the moderator delete this stupid thread? yes

Ofcourse it should be NOT BE legal!!! What the heck. I just don't understand people who's FOR it!

Chamal Nr1

I played with your words...
i was asked my opinion and i told it as it is...what do you expect me to say? do i have to agree with you? Nooo

i am not here to make you or anyone else happy....it is just an opinion and if you can not understand and accept that then that is a shame!!

Doukali, I respect everbody's opinons and I respect everybody dosen't matter if they are black, white, gay or not!

That's why it should be legal, because there is space for all of us!

Doukali, I respect everbody's opinons and I respect everybody dosen't matter if they are black, white, gay or not!

That's why it should be legal, because there is space for all of us!

+1

Homosexuality is not legal only in underdevelopped countries in general! ;)
Human rights are important for a country's developpement! ;)

god loves us all
no matter what

Legal in which way ?
Do you mean like authorising them to marry and adopt children or just leave them alone and let them do whatever they want with their lives ?

Legal in which way ?
Do you mean like authorising them to marry and adopt children or just leave them alone and let them do whatever they want with their lives ?

Its punishiable of 6 months to 3 years of jail.

So allowing homos to live in peace would be a huge improvement for morocco

Its punishiable of 6 months to 3 years of jail.

So allowing homos to live in peace would be a huge improvement for morocco

Oh yes! Morocco will be richer with the money the homosexual tourists will spend doing sexual turism.Do you really want Morocco become another Thailandia?

^^ it shouldn't bother you unless you wanna participate in the sexual tourism! if you don't then why make some drama about it?
:fiddle: :D

^^well I agree that I don't want Morocco to turn into another Thailand, but really its up to the government to enforce child protection laws, etc. but that shouldn't be reason to ban homosexual behavoir. It already exists in Morocco, but people can have fun but also be safe and respectful I think. Again, it all comes down to making the right decisions!:)

^^ That's thinking through fear. & who says fear says phobia. sex-phobia that is.
& also that's basically flat out linking homosexuality to pedophilia and prostitution as well as generalizing & catastrophizing the actions of a minority. It is just retarded.

To prevent Morocco from being a Thailand, maybe one should work up to make Morocco into a Japan direction rather than into a repressive sexually-obsessed Afghanistan direction.

People are free to have sex with adults. any adult they want, tourist or local. it's all about consent.

& also Thailand is better than Morocco :P lol so... sexthinking doesn't serve much for retarded pride.

je savais pas qu'il yavait tant de pédé a ssc !!!

Okay guys this is really going nasty and I urge you to stay polite posts such as the last one of Timo is an offense and should not be tolerated^^^^^^

As far as the poll Morocco is an Islamic country ....

Only a secular state separating religion and the state would guarantee their rights ...

I believe that we should give to all the citizens the right to choose and practice their religion, their sexuality without fearing the medieval laws that still govern our countries... in 2009 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

And that will only come with Democracy ( this also applies to Algeria, Tunisia & Lybia)

Now I think that we should close this thread because it will potentially become a slaughter...

NB: GAYS straights white blacks Jews Muslims Christians we are all the sons of God who are you to judge ???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ^^

je savais pas qu'il yavait tant de pédé a ssc !!!

^^ Y'a autant de pédés que de hmirs apparement! ;)

^^ That's thinking through fear. & who says fear says phobia. sex-phobia that is.
& also that's basically flat out linking homosexuality to pedophilia and prostitution as well as generalizing & catastrophizing the actions of a minority. It is just retarded.

People are free to have sex with adults. any adult they want, tourist or local. it's all about consent.

& also Thailand is better than Morocco :P lol so... sexthinking doesn't serve much for retarded pride.

I totally agree, and of course I was not trying to link homosexuality with pedophiles (everyone here knows I am open minded:D). A perv is a perv whether gay or straight right?

Oh yes! Morocco will be richer with the money the homosexual tourists will spend doing sexual turism.Do you really want Morocco become another Thailandia?

What are you trying to imply ? Once Morocco would have legalized homosexuality, it would consistently become another Thailandia ? Remember, there are a lot of muslim countries that legalized gayness, and people live more in peace now. Democracy starts by human rights, people are not asking for allowing marriage or whatever, they're just seeking a life in which they'll live like everybody else without being discriminated, look, there's no Western country that has homosexuality illegal and no western country that has prostitution legal (except Nevada). And don't forget that prostitution is an antique job, you know that prostitution is very very omnipresent in Morocco, authorities will never ever manage to get rid of it unfortunately, but the fact that you don't notice is is another thing. I was also shocked last time when I learnt that a girl cannot stay even alone at a hotel in her city. :eek:

Why legalizing drinking alcohol and cigarette ? Why not condamning women who don't wear hijab ? And why discriminating gays ? Democracy is not partial, so either we follow Islam as is, or we allow many things, and ignoring LGBT is not Haram, it is respect to other's private life, we cannot follow two paths simultaneously.

IMO, sending LGBT to jail for months and charging them heavy fines is inappropriate, however I am absolutely against gay marriage, because we're a Muslim country.

All I ask is that all Moroccans, man or women, black or white, young or old, Jew Christian Muslim or whatever etc. live together hand in hand, equally in peace and serenity. No one is Allah to judge and no one has the right to rule or discriminates whoever he wants, and finally we do all share the same land.

Many rights should be allowed in Morocco, but then again, it's another topic with a huge list...

Doukali, I respect everbody's opinons and I respect everybody dosen't matter if they are black, white, gay or not!

That's why it should be legal, because there is space for all of us!


Making it legal will not change the mentality of people!!

Homosexuality is legal in Brazil but you still have a lot of attacks from the general public as it has not been accepted and i don't think it will ever be.

i don't have anything against gays as i have friends (very good friends) who are gays but we cannot change moroccan society by changing the laws...it should FIRST change the society and then change the laws to reflect society...


the bottom line is that we need EDUCATION and then worry about the law

I don't agree. Laws should be about what's right and not about what's popular. Otherwise we must also defend racist laws in a racist society.

You first change the basis that supports the mentality and then you let the dynamics of the society find a balance. Maybe the Moroccan society would change and maybe it wouldn't. But if you don't give homosexuals their legitimate right to practice their lifestyle they might never speak out.

but can you trust politicians to decide what is right and what is worng on behalf of society?

the bottom line is that moroccan society is not ready for these kind of changes...first raise the level of education which would create an environment that is receptive for these kind of changes...

We are all aware that illiteracy is the main issue in Morocco, however in the meantime, the government should be more tolerate and ready for a change in every domain. ;)

i have got the perfect solution:

referendum!!! just like the one we have SSC but nationwide
and let the moroccan people decide if they want to legalise homosexuality. This is democracy working.

Should we put this into a referendum to the moroccan people?
what do people think about?

^^ It's not a good idea! There is other things that we are supposed to vote for but we don't, homosexuality is a human right, why people have to decide if a person can be gay or not! It's unfair! ;)

It sounds fair. But the population is still ignorant a lot to be part of such decision, half of the country is illiterate and I don't think they even know what homosexuality is :nuts:

i have got the perfect solution:

referendum!!! just like the one we have SSC but nationwide
and let the moroccan people decide if they want to legalise homosexuality. This is democracy working.

Should we put this into a referendum to the moroccan people?
what do people think about?
That's not democracy! maybe primary school definition of democracy.

Democracy = Human Rights + Protecting minorities + Elections (Majority choice rules without crushing minorities)

Not that the majority crushes everyone it pleases to, just because majority rules! that's repression. NOT democracy.

It's all about diversity in a sense really! Moroccans are hypocrite though. They are only active in denouncing stupid things like homosexuality when it comes to denouncing blatant corruption & solid problems touching everyone, well that's when the pussy comes out of the closet :P lol :D

Definitely! :yes: Why should the majority have a say in something that doesn't concern them to start with? Revoking segregation between blacks and whites in the US would have probably been rejected in a referendum in quite a few states does that mean it was wrong? The law should always intervene to protect minorities.

Homosexuality is a sin and the majority of moroccans are muslims and the other minorities are christians or jews and they also consider homosexualy a sin so Morocco will just legalize homosexuality in your wet dreams

je savais pas qu'il y avait tant de pédé a ssc !!!

La question du thread n'est pas "est-ce que t'es PD?", mais "est ce que t'es pour les libertés civiles ou pas?" :ohno:

Homosexuality is a sin and the majority of moroccans are muslims and the other minorities are christians or jews and they also consider homosexualy a sin so Morocco will just legalize homosexuality in your wet dreams

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Morocco will be a progressive country also in your not so wet virgin nightmares :cheers2: :D

La question du thread n'est pas "est-ce que t'es PD?", mais "est ce que t'es pour les libertés civiles ou pas?" :ohno:

The ones who said yes are not necessarily gay
but the ones who said no are definitely either closeted homophobes or religious pinheads :D

I don't support just taking laws against gays off. I support gay marriage. Gay public kissing and tongue action. Gay Adoption. Gay village. Gay TV. Even Gay-cloning, gay sperm donation, Gay breast research :D & Authentic Fessi yalla w yallalla Moroccan Gay porn :D... Ouuuuuh that will tickle some! & don't forget, Life is a Bitch, so the porn should be international standards LOOOL ;) Thailand & Morocco forever :D :lol: :baeh3:

^ Wrong ! You can be very religious, and tolerant and understanding at the same time :)

^^ that's why I said "pinheads" alluding to the colse-minded extreme.