Tamil Nadu Buses - Photos & Discussion [Archive] - Page 29

nambi83

November 17th, 2011, 04:48 PM

CHENNAI, NOV 17:

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/multimedia/dynamic/00839/bus2_839187f.jpg

The Tamil Nadu Government has decided to hike the minimum bus fare in metros other than Chennai to Rs 3 from Rs 2, and the maximum to Rs 12 from Rs 7.

The minimum fare for long-distance mofussil buses has been increased to 42 paise/km from 28; for semi-deluxe it will be 56 paise from 32 paise. For super-deluxe and luxury Volvo buses, the fare has been increased to 60 paise from 52 and for ultra-deluxe, the Government has decided to increase it to 70 paise from the present 52.

Justifying the increase, the Tamil Nadu Minister, Ms J. Jayalalithaa, said that diesel price, which was Rs 18.26 a litre in 2001, today costs Rs 43.95. Further, the cost of tyre and tube, and wages to employees has increased significantly. Due to these factors, Government Transport Corporations incurred a loss of Rs 6,150 crore for the fiscal ended March 31, 2011.

The situation has worsened to the extent that the Government Transport Corporations could end up in bankruptcy. Every month the Government, in fact, has been paying Rs 60 crore as financial assistance for providing wages to employees. If action is not taken now, the Government may not be in a position to run the buses, she said in a statement.

The Policy Note on the State Transport Department for the year 2011-2012 said that the eight State Transport Undertakings with a fleet strength of 21,169 carried nearly 2.10 crore passengers every day. In Chennai metropolitan alone, nearly 55 lakh passengers travel in the Metropolitan Transport Corporation buses.

FARE STRUCTURE

When compared to other southern states, the fare per km in Tamil Nadu was the lowest. The existing fare structure for mofussil services in Tamil Nadu with comparative figures of neighbouring States is given in the table.

The fare in Tamil Nadu has not been revised since December 2001 in the interest of the travelling public, though diesel cost and establishment costs have increased several times.

The oil companies periodically revise the price of petroleum products depending upon global market prices. High-speed diesel price has been increased 138 per cent since last the revision of bus fare in 2001. The State Transport Undertakings are incurring about 44 per cent of the total revenue towards diesel cost. The expenditure on consumption of diesel for the State Transport Undertakings was Rs 2,468 crore in 2010-11.

In addition to bus fares, the Tamil Nadu Government has also announced a steep increase in the price of milk supplied by Aavin. The price of toned milk will be revised to Rs 24 a litre from the current Rs 17.75. Correspondingly, the procurement price of milk paid to dairy farmers too has been raised from Rs 18 to Rs 20 a litre for cow's milk and Rs 26 to Rs 28 a litre for buffalo milk.

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/industry-and-economy/government-and-policy/article2635924.ece

binaiks

November 17th, 2011, 05:15 PM

A Comparision table published by The Hindu:

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/multimedia/archive/00839/tariff_839307a.jpg

There is some interesting facts here:

The Hindu claims that the fare for Ordinary services in Karnataka is only 43 paise, while the Government Order issued by the Government of Karnataka on 03.11.2010 states that the fares charged by Ordinary services (other than City buses) is 65 paise per km!

Similarly, The Hindu says the fares for Semi-Deluxe is only 65.70ps, while the GO says its 75 ps/km. Hindu says the fares for Super Deluxe is only 80 paise while the GO says its 100ps/km!

So, I am confused - whom to believe? The Hindu or the GO?

krishnaswamy

November 17th, 2011, 05:40 PM

Minimum fare in city bus Rs.2 --> Rs.3---->50% increase
UD Fare: 52 paise --> 70 paise------------>approx 35% increase
Normal Fare: 28 paise --> 42 paise-------->50% increase
Mofussil Fare: 32 paise --> 56 paise-------->75% increase.

Looks to be very huge hike!!
this should be condemned, i thought it would be moderate. :nuts:

She did after local body elections and lok sabha election is still 2 yrs from now..
so she did that steep rise to bring back transport dept glory.
she might reduce the fare on Jan 01, 2014 as New year gift...also for LS election..

oil prices can not be increased beyond this point...so this might be her tactical move...
hope the profits are shared with Transport Dept only...

rsubbu.mdu

November 17th, 2011, 06:50 PM

CHENNAI, NOV 17:
Justifying the increase, the Tamil Nadu Minister, Ms J. Jayalalithaa, said that diesel price, which was Rs 18.26 a litre in 2001, today costs Rs 43.95. Further, the cost of tyre and tube, and wages to employees has increased significantly. Due to these factors, Government Transport Corporations incurred a loss of Rs 6,150 crore for the fiscal ended March 31, 2011.

The last fiscal loss of TN-Transport corps put together is 1,005 crore and not the huge figure quoted by the Hindubusinessline.

Validation source: News link to "The Hindu" (http://www.hindu.com/2011/06/26/stories/2011062651680400.htm)

Vicvin86

November 17th, 2011, 06:57 PM

rsubbu.mdu

November 17th, 2011, 07:33 PM

Congratulations Dhandapani - you have reached 1000 posts in TN Bus thread. Your contributions in the TN bus thread in the form of never ending set of photos, bus timings and other useful info on the state transport corporation has helped us all!!:)

Arul Murugan

November 18th, 2011, 12:43 AM

GO ofcourse. If this is published today then Hindu might have done mistake in a hurry.

The below data is cumulative and not for specific last year alone. Most of the times Hindu will be on DOT with such stats and mostly use the gvt or politicians spelled figures.

I guess the below figures is from yesterday CM/Ministrical meeting. So it should be correct.

Due to these factors, Government Transport Corporations incurred a loss of Rs 6,150 crore for the fiscal ended March 31, 2011

Arul Murugan

November 18th, 2011, 01:35 AM

crossposting as it is regarding mofusil routes

Just because you are used to paying unrealistically low fares, its unfair to say this fare hike is not digestable.

Here, people are paying Rs. 500 for a 720km journey (Kottarakkara to Kollur) in a 3x2 Express bus. Similarly people are paying Rs. 350 for a 500 kms journey in Karnataka (Bangalore to Belgaum) and so on.

but what is the journey time?

TNSTC is known for its long running time when other STC has considerably reduced their running time after 4-laning and adjusting their KMPL target.

If TNSTC express mofusil can do the four simple facts, the fare hike can be accepted.

1. Decreasing the running time of mofusil express bus
2. Not dumping the standees from via towns (this is happening in most of the express mofusil 3*2 buses). This is one of the reason why passenger transported per bus stands high in case of TN compared to other states.
3. Stopping in decent motels
4. Crew response.

It is well known all TNSTC lags much behind compared to other STC in these 4points. The fare hike should have come with these 4 points. But the greedy oppicers will not implement this and also the top management/minster will also know about these facts.

Arul Murugan

November 18th, 2011, 01:38 AM

She did after local body elections and lok sabha election is still 2 yrs from now..
so she did that steep rise to bring back transport dept glory.
she might reduce the fare on Jan 01, 2014 as New year gift...also for LS election..

oil prices can not be increased beyond this point...so this might be her tactical move...
hope the profits are shared with Transport Dept only...

I don't think so looking at the tenders for new SETC especially. Hope you might have seen the comments of long distance travelers about new 12M chasis buses in this very forum. And 500 such buses are going to be procured.

And also look up the 4 points that I have mentioned above.

Vicvin86

November 18th, 2011, 01:46 AM

2. Not dumping the standees from via towns (this is happening in most of the express mofusil 3*2 buses). This is one of the reason why passenger transported per bus stands high in case of TN compared to other states.

No standees allowed in 3*2 buses?

Arul Murugan

November 18th, 2011, 01:49 AM

^^

Having said this, we can expect some below comments/critics in the same thread in coming days.

"fare of SETC is on par or quiet less with other STC like KeSRTC, KASRTC rajamhsa, airwada, APSRTC garuda, etc., but the SETC bus is pathetic, running time is very high, poor crew response, no specials etc.,"

"xyz STC is introducing Volvo, Benz, ibus but SETC is not introducing inspite of huge fare hike..." even if gets introduced Volvo looking after SETC maintenance will ban TN STC procuring volvo buses.:lol:

I do agree we cannot judge now and have to wait-see the improvements and it cannot happen over night. But I have no optimistic view on this transport dept undertaking management as it is on par with Indian railways management i.e erumai mattu mela mazhai pencha mathiri.

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from tnstc.in I guess they are restructuring the fare. The fare hike is enforced from yesterday mid night or from today?

Arul Murugan

November 18th, 2011, 01:53 AM

No standees allowed in 3*2 buses?

standees are allowed even in U.D buses. Only in mofusil AC buses I have not seen standees. But that is common on Volvo running to Hosur, Vellore, Pondy and Trichy.

When we pay huge fare, this standees should be banned. It is for ordinary routes like city buses or short distance mofusil buses. Many express bus runs with standees especially on sat, sun and fri.

rsubbu.mdu

November 18th, 2011, 02:00 AM

The last fiscal loss of TN-Transport corps put together is 1,005 crore and not the huge figure quoted by the Hindubusinessline.

Validation source: News link to "The Hindu" (http://www.hindu.com/2011/06/26/stories/2011062651680400.htm)

Few questions raised on why it cannot be Rs 6,150 cr. I doubt based on the following CAG findings of losses :

Heavy losses were incurred by Tamil Nadu State Transport Corporation (Madurai) Limited (Rs 166.47 crore), Tamil Nadu State Transport Corporation (Coimbatore) Limited (Rs 141.42 crore) and State Express Transport Corporation Limited (Rs 100.82 crore).

Source: (http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/cag-finds-one-in-three-psus-in-losses-in-tamil-nadu/449129/)

CAG has quoted the heavy hitters in terms of losses, if this case is taken the highest is 166cr... so going be these numbers, it can be only 1,005cr and not Rs6,150cr. I will see if i can fish out the entire CAG report (latest one) on TN transport corporations.

Arul Murugan

November 18th, 2011, 02:28 AM

dhandapanik

November 18th, 2011, 02:41 AM

Mdu - salem 139
mdu - cbe 126
mdu - dgl 37
mdu - palani 64 mdu - trp 94
mdu - ukadam 124 effective from 12 pm..

Details which I got from our member dolphinstuty. He might be the last person to enjoy the lowest fare from our group. In the same bus they collected new fare from mdu-slm. He can give more details on this..

uppili

November 18th, 2011, 02:57 AM

Bold step by CM biting the bullet.
I hope the buses and Bus stands will also be improved to significant standards.
Photos of bus stands can be posted here for suggestions

rsubbu.mdu

November 18th, 2011, 03:30 AM

^^

subbu,

Not only Hindu every media has carried this 6150crores cummulative loss data.

Dinathanthi

http://www.dailythanthi.com/thanthiepaper/showxml.aspx?id=15125813&code=2368

Dinamalar

இதனால், போக்குவரத்துக் கழகங்களின் ஒட்டுமொத்த கடன், 6,150 கோடி ரூபாயாக உயர்ந்துவிட்டது

http://www.dinamalar.com/News_detail.asp?Id=351022

Apart from this Puthiyathalaimurai, Jaya TV, Raj new everyone mentioned this cumulative loss data.

2006-07 - 310crores loss
2007-08 - 410crores loss
2008-09 - 720crores loss
2009-10 - 700crores loss
2010-11 - 1000crores loss

this forms approx 3200crores loss. From 2001 to 2006 also transport dept was under loss making only.

CAG report might be for particular financial year.

CHENNAI, NOV 17:
Justifying the increase, the Tamil Nadu Minister, Ms J. Jayalalithaa, said that diesel price, which was Rs 18.26 a litre in 2001, today costs Rs 43.95. Further, the cost of tyre and tube, and wages to employees has increased significantly. Due to these factors, Government Transport Corporations incurred a loss of Rs 6,150 crore for the fiscal ended March 31, 2011.

The last fiscal loss of TN-Transport corps put together is 1,005 crore and not the huge figure quoted by the Hindubusinessline.

Validation source: News link to "The Hindu" (http://www.hindu.com/2011/06/26/stories/2011062651680400.htm)

The news item released by the "The Hindu" is wrong is my contention. Clearly its says Rs6,150 loss for the fiscal ending in Mar2011.

whereas Dinamlar says "இதனால், போக்குவரத்துக் கழகங்களின் ஒட்டுமொத்த கடன், 6,150 கோடி ரூபாயாக உயர்ந்துவிட்டது."

There is a difference between talking about fiscal and cummulative. Thats my point. One more thing is that The Hindu calls it "Loss" and Dinamalar calls it "loan". That is another problem, shows the poor PR of SG.

Defenitely CAG report what i quoted is for 2010-2011 fiscal only and here we are talking of one fiscal only i.e 2011 - 2011.

thillai_selvan

November 18th, 2011, 03:40 AM

Arul Murugan

November 18th, 2011, 03:45 AM

^^thanks, looks they have corrected in Hindu news and Hindu businessline is still having the same line and they have missed the word accumulated.

Steep increase in bus fares, power tariff, milk prices

State expects to raise additional revenue of Rs. 10,000 crore annually

Aimed at mopping up additional annual revenue of over Rs. 10,000 crore, Chief Minister Jayalalithaa on Thursday announced her government's nod for the hike in bus fares, power tariff and milk prices. She made the announcement after chairing an hour-long meeting of the Cabinet at Fort St. George.

In her address televised on a private channel, a transcript of which was later released to other media, she dwelt at length on the present financial health of the organisations concerned - Tamil Nadu Generation and Distribution Corporation (TANGEDCO), a successor entity of the Tamil Nadu Electricity Board (TNEB); State Transport Corporations and the Tamil Nadu Co-operative Milk Producers' Federation (‘Aavin'). “If these public sector undertakings, lying on death bed, are not given ‘oxygen' now, they will become totally dysfunctional,” she said.

Sources say that the increase in the power tariff is, on an average, expected to be Rs.1.50 per unit for different sections of consumers. It will fetch Rs.8,000 crore in a year to the cash-starved power utility. The previous power tariff hike was in August last year.

Referring to the State government's legal position on tariff determination, the Chief Minister said the government had no authority. The power utility would file a petition before the Tamil Nadu Electricity Regulatory Commission (TNERC), which would hold public hearings before fixing the new tariff.

Ms. Jayalalithaa made it clear that agriculturists, weavers and those covered under the one-bulb scheme – hut dwellers – would continue to enjoy free power supply, for which the State government would provide subsidy to the TANGEDCO. Except for high-end consumers, other categories of domestic consumers would get government subsidy.

In respect of bus fares, the revision has been made after a gap of 10 years, the previous instance being in December 2001. The per km ticket price of ordinary mofussil buses would go up from 28 paise to 42 paise; express and semi-deluxe buses - 32 paise to 56 paise; super deluxe - 38 paise to 60 paise and ultra deluxe - 52 paise to 70 paise.

The minimum bus ticket price in urban areas other than Chennai would go up from Rs. 2 to Rs. 3 and the maximum would be Rs. 12 instead of Rs. 7. In Chennai too, the minimum fare would go up to Rs. 3 and the maximum would be Rs. 14 against Rs. 12.

State Transport Corporations, whose total losses for the current financial year are estimated to touch around Rs. 2,200 crore by the end of the current financial year, would get an additional revenue of around Rs. 2,100 crore in a year. Taking into account the prevailing factors, the Corporations are likely to achieve break-even. As on March 31 this year, their accumulated losses stood at Rs. 6,150 crore.

As regards the dairy sector, the price of toned milk per litre would be revised from Rs. 17.75 to Rs. 24. The last increase was made in September 2009. The procurement price of milk paid to dairy farmers would go up from Rs.18 to Rs. 20 per litre for cow milk and from Rs. 26 to Rs. 28 for buffalo milk.

Even after the revision, the bus fares and the milk price would be lower than those in other southern States, Ms. Jayalalithaa pointed out.

The manner in which the announcement was made was itself a novelty as Ms Jayalalithaa used Jaya TV to announce her government's decisions around 3:30 p.m. Minutes later, the government released the text of her address to the media

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/article2637791.ece

thillai_selvan

November 18th, 2011, 03:48 AM

New Bus rates from Chennai to Various cities in TN

http://epaper.dinakaran.com/pdf/2011/11/18/20111118a_001101004.jpg

Arul Murugan

November 18th, 2011, 03:49 AM

rsubbu.mdu

November 18th, 2011, 04:01 AM

Guys..check out the Kanchipuram-Bangalore Vaibhav pics here :

Link - SSC-KaSRTC Thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=85795794&postcount=1080)

thillai_selvan

November 18th, 2011, 04:03 AM

^^ Intha ranagalathulayum ungaluku oru kilukiluppu :lol:

Arul Murugan

November 18th, 2011, 04:08 AM

Another comparison b/w railway and bus fare

http://dinamani.com/edition/story.aspx?&SectionName=Tamilnadu&artid=508718&SectionID=129&MainSectionID=129&SEO=&Title=

Dinamani

http://dinamani.com/images/july11/fare.jpg

gvijayan

November 18th, 2011, 04:11 AM

standees are allowed even in U.D buses. Only in mofusil AC buses I have not seen standees. But that is common on Volvo running to Hosur, Vellore, Pondy and Trichy.

When we pay huge fare, this standees should be banned. It is for ordinary routes like city buses or short distance mofusil buses. Many express bus runs with standees especially on sat, sun and fri.

Most of the standees in long distance buses are short distance travelers. The number of end to end standees on long distance buses will be very little or null. For example, Namakkal bound pax from Salem are tend to board buses bound for Trichy/Madurai as they will not stop in smaller towns between Salem and Namakkal. But, Salem - Namakkal buses will stop in several intermediate stops.

But these should not be encouraged, and the crew should make sure there are no such short distance travellers.

Also, lack of direct services from intermediate stops is another reason for standees in long distance buses. For example, there are no direct buses from Namakkal to Madurai. So pax from Namakkal bound for Madurai have to board the bus standing, hoping to get a seat in Karur or Dindigul.

The department should identify the demand from such small towns, and introduce buses like Namakkal - Madurai, Pedundurai - Coimbatore, Attur - Chennai etc.

Without such services, we cannot completely avoid standees in long distance buses.

rsubbu.mdu

November 18th, 2011, 04:14 AM

ரயில் கட்டணத்தை விட பஸ் கட்டணம் அதிகம்
Nov17, Dinamani (http://www.dinamani.com/edition/story.aspx?&SectionName=Tamilnadu&artid=508718&SectionID=129&MainSectionID=129&SEO=&Title=)

சென்னை, நவ. 17: பஸ் கட்டண உயர்வின்படி, சென்னையிலிருந்து கோவை, திருச்சி, மதுரை உள்ளிட்ட முக்கிய நகரங்களுக்கு இயக்கப்படும் பஸ்களின் கட்டணம் ரூ. 100 முதல் ரூ. 170 வரை அதிகரிக்கவுள்ளது.

எக்ஸ்பிரஸ் பஸ் கட்டணம், எக்ஸ்பிரஸ் ரயில்களில் 2-ம் வகுப்பு தூங்கும் வசதியுடன் கூடிய ரயில் கட்டணத்துடன் ஒப்பிடுகையில் ரூ.19 முதல் ரூ.87 வரை கூடுதலாக உள்ளது.

http://www.dinamani.com/images/july11/fare.jpg

எக்ஸ்பிரஸ் ரயில்களில் இரண்டாம் வகுப்பு படுக்கை வசதியுடன் கூடிய கட்டணத்துடன் எக்ஸ்பிரஸ் பஸ் கட்டணத்தை ஒப்பிடுகையில் சற்று அதிகமாக இருந்தது. ஆனால் இப்போது, பஸ் கட்டண உயர்வைத் தொடர்ந்து ரயில் கட்டணம் மிகக் குறைவாக உள்ளது.

ரயில்களில் முன்பதிவு இல்லாத 2-ம் வகுப்பு பயணிகள் கட்டணம் அதைவிடவும் குறைவு. ஏற்கெனவே ரயில்களில் முன்பதிவு செய்வதற்கு குறிப்பாக விழா காலங்களில் கவுன்டர்கள் கூட்டம் அதிக அளவில் இருக்கும். இப்போது பஸ் கட்டணம் அதிகரித்துள்ளதால் இனி வரும் காலங்களில் இந்தக் கூட்டம் மேலும் அதிகரிக்கும்.
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Dinamani has compard the latest bus fares with SL fares on IR (they are too low is another story which the paper has forgotten)
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Now passengers like MDU-SCT, TEN-ED, NCG-CBE etc will have some additional patronage.
Good that the paper did not compare IR passenger train fares with buses on that route...should have sounded funny.

rsubbu.mdu

November 18th, 2011, 04:15 AM

^^ Intha ranagalathulayum ungaluku oru kilukiluppu :lol:

Things look atrocious as fares were never hiked in the last 10 years, thats the problem.

Arul Murugan

November 18th, 2011, 04:21 AM

.

Also, lack of direct services from intermediate stops is another reason for standees in long distance buses. For example, there are no direct buses from Namakkal to Madurai. So pax from Namakkal bound for Madurai have to board the bus standing, hoping to get a seat in Karur or Dindigul.

The department should identify the demand from such small towns, and introduce buses like Namakkal - Madurai, Pedundurai - Coimbatore, Attur - Chennai etc.

Without such services, we cannot completely avoid standees in long distance buses.

exactly that is the problem.. see this bye-pass rider... moving like a town bus!

http://i39.************/2vnq35d.jpg

pritm

November 18th, 2011, 04:52 AM

dhandapanik

November 18th, 2011, 05:15 AM

Still old fares are shown in the eticketing site. I'm able to login using m.tnstc.in site and the main site is showing "Server Busy".

dhandapanik

November 18th, 2011, 05:24 AM

Ordinary fares from my place..

Pollachi-Coimbatore - Rs18(Older Rs.12)
Pollachi-Udumalai - Rs.13(Old Fare Rs.9)
Pollachi-Palani - Rs.28(Old fare Rs.18)

Didnt get the express fare details. I hope our guys will remove all the pseudo express tags.. :bash:

rsubbu.mdu

November 18th, 2011, 05:29 AM

Chennai bus fare hiked by AIADMK govt, with no service guarantees

by Straphanger
Link (http://straphanger.wordpress.com/2011/11/17/chennai-bus-fare-hiked-by-aiadmk-govt-with-no-service-guarantees/)

dhandapanik

November 18th, 2011, 06:24 AM

Still old fares are shown in the eticketing site. I'm able to login using m.tnstc.in site and the main site is showing "Server Busy".

Official fare hike started coming up in TNSTC Website..

Madurai-Chennai UD - 315(old 240) , AC 405(Old 385)
Pollachi-Chennai UD-375(Old 275), AC 490(Old 450).

Madurai-Bangalore UD fare is shown as Rs.320.. Not sure about the old fare. Subbu??

Chennai-Trichy UD-230(Old 175), AC-290, Volvo AC - 355(36 seats). Some one tell us the old fares..
Chennai - Nagercoil UD-485(Old 497), AC 625

rsubbu.mdu

November 18th, 2011, 06:55 AM

Madurai-Bangalore UD fare is shown as Rs.320.. Not sure about the old fare. Subbu??

Old Fare on Mdu - Blr SETC UD was Rs 357 (Base fare: Rs.314)

New Fare on SETC now is Rs 363 (Base fare: Rs.320)

KA Rajahamsa fare on this section has increased by small fraction. Till last week, it was Rs.364 on this route. Its now Rs 368.

dhandapanik

November 18th, 2011, 07:07 AM

Old Fare on Mdu - Blr SETC UD was Rs 357 (Base fare: Rs.314)

New Fare on SETC now is Rs 363 (Base fare: Rs.320)

KA Rajahamsa fare on this section has increased by small fraction. Till last week, it was Rs.364 on this route. Its now Rs 368.

Thanks. Again a Rs.5 difference is maintained.

Erode - Chennai.. Ordinary fare is RS.229. UD fare is 285/290. :) Very less difference.

ignis_s

November 18th, 2011, 07:28 AM

dhandapanik

November 18th, 2011, 07:37 AM

A comparision between Parveen travels and SETC (Bangalore to chennai)
Yesterday i booked a ticket in Parveen travels NON AC bus from Bangalore to Chennai
and today i check the rate for SETC non AC.

Parveen Non AC Airbus :
Online ticket fare is Rs 389.50
Good quality bus
Run time 6.30 hours

SETC UD :
Online ticket fare is Rs 363
Old and unmaintained bus
Running time 7:30 to 8 hours

The price difference is less than Rs 30 for a comfortable travel.

I hope the government justifies the ticket hike by improving the quality of buses and Staff behavior.

Lets wait and watch.

Is somebody aware of such less ticket difference between SETC and Omni buses in any other routes?

SRS charges less than SETC during week days..

SETC fare for UD -- Rs.363
Rajahamsa Fare(UD Type) - Rs.368
SRS Fare - Week days(Rs.350), Weekends(Rs.450)..

ignis_s

November 18th, 2011, 07:41 AM

SRS charges less than SETC during week days..

SETC fare for UD -- Rs.363
Rajahamsa Fare(UD Type) - Rs.368
SRS Fare - Week days(Rs.350), Weekends(Rs.450)..

Thank you for the information.

and Congrats for your 1000 posts!

MA Eswaran

November 18th, 2011, 07:44 AM

Sure. Omni buses too will increase the fares soon

ignis_s

November 18th, 2011, 08:20 AM

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சென்னை: கிட்டத்தட்ட ஆம்னி பஸ்களுக்கு இணையான கட்டணத்தை கொண்டு வந்து விட்டது தமிழக அரசு. இனிமேலாவது அரசு பஸ்கள் சிறப்பான முறையில் பயணிகளுக்கு சேவை புரியுமா, குறைந்தபட்சம் மூட்டைப் பூச்சி இல்லாமல் பஸ் இருக்குமா என்ற எதிர்பார்ப்பில் மக்கள் உள்ளனர்.

அரசு பஸ்களுக்கான கட்டண உயர்வு நேற்று அறிவிக்கப்பட்டது. தனியார் பஸ்களுக்கு நிகரான கட்டண உயர்வை முதல்வர் ஜெயலலிதா அறிவித்துள்ளார். இதனால் ரயில் கட்டணத்தை விட பஸ் கட்டணம் கிடுகிடுவென உயர்ந்துள்ளது. இதனால் மக்கள் அதிர்ச்சி அடைந்துள்ளனர்.

இருப்பினும் இந்த விலை உயர்வுக்கு மத்தியிலும், அரசு பஸ்கள் குறித்த மக்களின் எதிர்பார்ப்புகள் முற்றிலும் போய் விடவில்லை. இனி்மேலாவது பயணிகளுக்கு அசவுகரியங்கள் ஏற்படாத வகையில் பஸ்கள் இயக்கப்படுமா என்ற எதிர்பார்ப்பே மக்கள் மத்தியில் நிலவுகிறது.

அல்ட்ராடீலக்ஸ் என்ற பெயரை வைத்துக் கொண்டு படு ஓட்டையான பஸ்களை ஓட்டி வரும் செயலை அரசு நிறுத்த வேண்டும் (சமீபத்தில் சென்னையிலிருந்து இப்படி ஒரு பஸ்ஸை நாகை மாவட்டத்திற்கு அரசு போக்குவரத்துக் கழகம் இயக்கியது (http://tamil.oneindia.in/news/2011/08/08/passengers-agitate-against-setc-bus-inconvenience-aid0091.html). இதையடுத்து மக்கள் பஸ்ஸை நிறுத்தி போராட்டத்தில் ஈடுபட்டது நினைவிருக்கலாம்.)

மூட்டைப் பூச்சித் தொல்லை இல்லாத வகையில் பஸ்களை சுத்தபத்தமாக வைத்துக் கொள்வது.

பஸ்சுக்குள் ஏறியவுடனேயே முடை நாற்றம் வீசும் அளவுக்கு ஆரோக்கியக் குறைவு இருப்பதை மாற்றி சுகந்தமான, ஆரோக்கியமான சூழலுடன் கூடிய பஸ்களை இயக்குவது.

அடிக்கடி விபத்துக்களில் சிக்காமல் பஸ்களை செலுத்துவது, அடிக்கடி பஸ்கள் பழுதடையாமல் பார்த்துக் கொள்வது, பயணிகள் உட்கார்ந்து சவுகரியமாக பயணிப்பதற்கு ஏற்ற சீட் வசதிகள் உள்ளிட்ட பல்வேறு எதிர்பார்ப்புகள் மக்களிடம் எழுந்துள்ளன.

தற்போதைய கட்டண உயர்வுக்குப் பின்னர் அரசு பஸ்களுக்கும், தனியார் ஆம்னி பஸ்களுக்கும் இடையிலான கட்டண வித்தியாயசம் கிட்டத்தட்ட ரூ. 80 என்ற அளவில்தான் உள்ளது. எனவே கட்டண உயர்வுக்குப் பின்னர் பாதி ஆம்னி பஸ்களாக மாறியுள்ளன அரசு பஸ்கள். ஆனால் தனியார் ஆம்னி பஸ்களில் உள்ள வசதிகளில் ஓரளவாவது அரசு பஸ்களில் கட்டாயம் இருக்க வேண்டும் என்று மக்கள் எதிர்பார்ப்பதில் நியாயம் இருக்கத்தான் செய்கிறது.

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@binaiks Sorry about the Tamil version.
Govt buses fares are increased almost equal to Omni buses (around 80 rs difference) but the quality of the buses are very poor. People are hoping that the service would improve to justify the fare hike. Minimum atleast to have BEDBUGS free buses :-)

binaiks

November 18th, 2011, 08:22 AM

@Ignis,

^^

May I remind you, Its mandatory to provide a brief translation in English when you post news articles in regional languages.

Arul Murugan

November 18th, 2011, 08:41 AM

A comparision between Parveen travels and SETC (Bangalore to chennai)
Yesterday i booked a ticket in Parveen travels NON AC bus from Bangalore to Chennai
and today i check the rate for SETC non AC.

Parveen Non AC Airbus :
Online ticket fare is Rs 389.50
Good quality bus
Run time 6.30 hours

SETC UD :
Online ticket fare is Rs 363
Old and unmaintained bus
Running time 7:30 to 8 hours

The price difference is less than Rs 30 for a comfortable travel.

I hope the government justifies the ticket hike by improving the quality of buses and Staff behavior.

Lets wait and watch.

Is somebody aware of such less ticket difference between SETC and Omni buses in any other routes?

Most of the routes is in similar condition.

UD buses are nearing non-AC fare of omni buses.
Ordinary 3*2 express bus have very less fare with U.D

Expecting improved punctuality, reduction in running time and good crew behavior itself a big Q. This can be achieved without much spending. But there would be no change in this for sure!

nambi83

November 18th, 2011, 08:58 AM

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/8084/airbusjb9.jpg

This is the condition of the Madurai -Chennai AC bus when inaugurated at 2008. as the ticket price has gone up now , at least as a first priority AC type buses needs some respect to that standards. if it shows some improvement in future, definitely they can give a good competition to Omni buses to some extent,because omni buses will increase their fare anytime soon.

eventhough its a old picture it looks awesome and great feeling even now to see our State AC Volvo bus standing in a proud manner.

rsubbu.mdu

November 18th, 2011, 09:01 AM

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/8084/airbusjb9.jpg

Nambi ji,

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Collector - Jawahar? Once upon a time photo.

arun82

November 18th, 2011, 09:14 AM

12 cities to get Metro rail soon

NEW DELHI: Commuters in cities that have population of more than 20 lakhs can look forward to more comfortable and safer rides, if state governments are willing to opt for modern Metro network for intra-city travel.

The Union urban development ministry has decided to consider the proposal for Metro in Tier II cities like Lucknow, Kanpur, Patna, Jaipur, Ahmedabad, Pune, Surat, Indore, Nagpur, Kochi, Coimbatore, Kozhikode. The Metro fever is catching up in smaller cities, thanks largely to the success of Delhi Metro. Cities like Chandigarh, Ludhiana and Bhopal are making a case for Metro, even though they don't qualify because of the population cut-off.

Jaipur is likely to be the first Tier-II city to get the swanky mode of transportation as the state government has agreed to bear Rs 1,250 crore for the 9.25-km stretch under Stage I. However, the Rajasthan government has sought Centre's approval for viability gap funding for stage II - a 25.91-km stretch between Ambabari to Sitapura via SMS hospital - that is estimated to cost Rs 7,700 crore.

Kochi has also jumped on the bandwagon. The UD ministry will soon seek the Cabinet's nod for the project: a 25.3-km stretch, extending between Alwaye to Petta, to be built at a cost of Rs 4,722 crore.

Ludhiana, Pune, Lucknow and Ahmedabad have got detailed project report (DPR) for metro projects prepared from Delhi Metro Rail Corporation (DMRC), while DPRs for Indore, Bhopal and Chandigarh is being prepared.

The ministry seems keen to run Metro in Nagpur as UD minister Kamal Nath has written to Maharastra chief minister Ashok Chavan, asking him to get a DPR for the Orange City prepared.

Though Kanpur, Patna, Surat, Coimbatore and Kozhikode make the grade for Tier-II cities, they are lagging behind in availing of the Centre's offer. "If state governments come with the proposal for Metro Rail in cities with 20 lakh plus population, the ministry is ready to consider," Nath said.

The ministry has decided to bear 50% of the cost of the preparation of DPR for cities that come under the population cut-off bracket. Among the 19 cities, which have more than 20 lakh population as per Census 2011, Metro projects are under different stages of implementation in four -Delhi, Mumbai, Kolkata and Chennai. Metro is running in the National Capital since 2006 on different routes, while Delhi Metro Rail Corporation (DMRC) is implementing Phase III of the project.

Mumbai has taken up metro projects-Line 1 (11.07 km), Line 2 (31.87 km) - on PPP model at an estimated cost of Rs 10,016 crore. For Line-3 (20.4 km Colaba-Mahim/Bandra corridor), which will cost about Rs 12,015 crore, it has opted for the DMRC model, to be funded by both the Centre and the state.

Kolkata Metro, which is the first one in the country, has taken up a new 14.67-km east-west corridor that will be implemented by railways. Chennai is implementing a 45.05-km project on the DMRC model.

Bangalore has become first city in south to have Metro after a 7-km stretch was commissioned in October. The city has already got the DPR ready for Phase II - a 72-km stretch that will cost about Rs 25,000 crore. Metro rail project in Hyderabad, covering 71 km, is being implemented on PPP mode.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/i...w/10774944.cms

CAN WE OPEN A THREAD FOR COIMBATORE METRO

ignis_s

November 18th, 2011, 09:18 AM

nambi83

November 18th, 2011, 09:23 AM

This is an normal AC bus and not VOLVO.

thanks corrected

ignis_s

November 18th, 2011, 09:39 AM

dhandapanik

November 18th, 2011, 09:58 AM

binaiks

November 18th, 2011, 10:18 AM

Sadly the fares of Volvo buses in Chennai City has also been revised! The new Minimum fare is Rs. 15! Chennai finally overtakes Bangalore ;)

They should have kept the minimum fare at Rs. 10 - it will encourage short distance passengers to take the bus instead of taking a rick for short rides.

dhandapanik

November 18th, 2011, 10:51 AM

binaiks

November 18th, 2011, 10:58 AM

Here is a comparision of stage-wise fares of Volvo buses in MTC and BMTC: BMTC fares are low for short distance passengers - which is the right way to go as well.

MTC BMTC
1 15.00 10.00
2 25.00 10.00
3 30.00 15.00
4 30.00 25.00
5 35.00 30.00
6 35.00 30.00
7 35.00 35.00
8 40.00 40.00
9 40.00 40.00
10 45.00 45.00
11 45.00 45.00
12 45.00 50.00
13 50.00 50.00
14 50.00 55.00
15 50.00 55.00
16 50.00 60.00
17 50.00 60.00
18 55.00 65.00
19 55.00 65.00
20 55.00 70.00
21 60.00 70.00
22 60.00 75.00
23 60.00 75.00
24 65.00 80.00
25 70.00 80.00

chidambaram_mech04

November 18th, 2011, 11:14 AM

19B Volvo from Madhya Kailash to Sozhlinganallur is now increased to 28 Rs which was 23 Rs before.

pramodp

November 18th, 2011, 11:22 AM

Quality of SETC buses vs KaSRTC and Omni buses

How come 3 to 4 years OLD SETC bused look so horrible when compared to same 3 to 4 years old other buses? SETC dont travel at high speed like OMNI buses.But still SETC bus looks so bad. DO you think its just because of poor maintenance or the poor quality of the bus(body engine etc)?

There's only one reason -poor maintenance, if at all any maintenance exists! Omni buses use the same bus chassis (most of the non-AC and a fair share of AC buses are from Ashok Leyland). The bodies are built by the same Irizar-TVS, Prakash Coach, Veera etc. The SETC AC Bus in picture is built by Irizar-TVS, IIRC.

Private carriers know that people will pay extra (compared to UD fares) if the bus is more comfortable and reasonably fast. So, they maintain their buses well, to attract people as well as to make the most out of the bus.

Sadly the fares of Volvo buses in Chennai City has also been revised! The new Minimum fare is Rs. 15! Chennai finally overtakes Bangalore ;)

They should have kept the minimum fare at Rs. 10 - it will encourage short distance passengers to take the bus instead of taking a rick for short rides.

Damn! All this time I was cribbing about the "high" bus fares in Bangalore, after enjoying years of cheap bus travel in Chennai. And now, it's going to be the opposite :ohno:

But Binai, taking a rick in Chennai is suicidal, by way of the rates as well as road manners. It's just some random number that comes into the rick driver's mouth that he'll blurt out when we try to hire one. And, the bargain process begins. Oops, I missed the share autos though - perhaps they'll be cheaper than buses for short haul. Until this price hike, share auto fares used to be almost same as the Deluxe fares charged by MTC.

Arul Murugan

November 18th, 2011, 11:34 AM

19B Volvo from Madhya Kailash to Sozhlinganallur is now increased to 28 Rs which was 23 Rs before.

thanks

I was paying 30 Rs from Little Mount to Siruseri, so it should be 35 now.

rsubbu.mdu

November 18th, 2011, 11:35 AM

http://img.dinamalar.com/data/uploads/WR_704687.jpeg

Dinamalar Cartoon.

They missed Thatha pic as he was one who ensured bus breaks down as he ran away with the engine.

dhandapanik

November 18th, 2011, 11:42 AM

Where is our Ex-Trans?? No arikkai from him? Expecting some improvements atleast now. I'll check with someone, whether they reduced the KMPL limit or not..

dhandapanik

November 18th, 2011, 01:03 PM

Huge increase in slf fares. Minimum fare is 7 applicable for next stage alone.. From 1 to 5 it is 9. Thirumangalam to arapalayam 21(13(
Tpk to arapalayam 13(9).. :)

No confirmation yet on kmpl target.. Seems that They will tell tonight..

Arul Murugan

November 18th, 2011, 01:37 PM

* Express fare to main mofusil routes from CMBT

* Volvo fare to Trichy, Hosur, Pondy and Vellore

* UD fare to important cities/towns from CMBT

http://epaper.maalaimalar.com/18112011/epaperimages/18112011/18112011-md-hr-2/144946593_1.jpg
http://epaper.maalaimalar.com/18112011/epaperimages/18112011/18112011-md-hr-2/144946593_2.jpg

malaimalar

dhandapanik

November 18th, 2011, 01:43 PM

All our private buses are operated with ordinary bus permit or what?
As per the new fare(42p) palani Madurai fare comes around 47 rs for 108km. But they are collecting rs64 which looks like a sd or exp fare..
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Papers misled.. Actual fare collected in a private bus is rs 50.. No sillarai problem.. ;)

Arul Murugan

November 18th, 2011, 02:08 PM

Fares on important routes from Salem.

SETC
1. Salem-Chennai - 240 (185)
2. Salem-Nellai - 300 (225)
3. Salem-Madurai - 180 (140)
4. Salem-Kovai - 120 (95)
5. Salem-Ernakulam - 300 (270)
6. Salem-Bengaluru - 225 (200) (I guess some error or is this correct?)1.08paise per KM??* 208KM
7. Salem-Virudhunagar - 215 (190)

TNSTC
1. Salem-Chennai - 193 (115)
2. Salem-Kanchipuram - 161 (95)
3. Salem-Vellore - 123 (70)
4. Salem-Thanjai - 111 (68)
5. Salem-Madurai - 140 (80)
6. Salem-Tiruppur - 73 (42)
7. Salem-Kovai - 97 (55)
8. Salem-Pudukottai - 114 (68)
9. Salem-Bengaluru - 131 (68) 0.63paise per KM?
10. Salem-Hosur - 97 (55)
11. Salem-Ooty - 125 (75)
12. Salem-Palani - 103 (60)
13. Salem-Villupuram - 103 (60)
14. Salem-Thirupattur - 70 (40)
15. Salem-Krishnagiri - 67 (37)
16. Salem-Dharmapuri - 39 (22)
17. Salem-Namakkal - 32 (19)
18. Salem-Karur - 59 (38)
19. Salem-Pondy - 130 (73)
20. Salem-Trichy - 83 (50)
21. Salem-Yercaud - 17 (11)
22. Salem-Uthangarai - 54 (31)
23. Salem-Harur - 39 (22)
24. Salem-Kollimalai - 48 (30)
25. Salem-Thiruvanamalai - 91 (52)
26. Salem-Attur - 33 (20)

http://65.175.77.34/maalaimalar/salem/18112011/epaperimages/18112011/18112011-md-sa-2/1547615.jpg

Arul Murugan

November 18th, 2011, 02:24 PM

New fares from Coimbatore

SETC
1. Coimbatore-Nagercoil - 305 (265)
2. Coimbatore-Kumari - 320 (285)
3. Coimbatore-Nellai - 260 (225)
4. Coimbatore-Chennai - 360 (290)
5. Coimbatore-Udangudi - 310 (260)
6. Coimbatore-Thisaiyan Villai - 285 (250)
7. Coimbatore-Pondy - 265 (230)
8. Coimbatore-Sengottai - 235 (215)
9. Coimbatore-Rameshwaram - 300 (230)
10. Coimbatore-Marthandam - 360 (300)

TNSTC from Singanallur BS

1. Coimbatore-Madurai - 112 (70)
2. Coimbatore-Trichy - 116 (66)
3. Coimbatore-Pudukottai - 146 (83)
4. Coimbatore-Devakottai - 175 (130)
5. Coimbatore-Sivakasi - 166 (120)
6. Coimbatore-Sivagangai - 142 (105)
7. Coimbatore-Thoothukudi - 200 (145)
8. Coimbatore-Nellai - 221 (150)

http://65.175.77.34/maalaimalar/coimbatore/18112011/epaperimages/18112011/18112011-md-co-3/151551890_2.jpg

Sree Sree

November 18th, 2011, 02:45 PM

MTC Rs.600 pass changed into Rs.1000,Rs.30 to Rs.50 (OMG)

Madurai - Arupukotai is Rs.34 (Rs.20).14 rupees hike for 50 kms

Whether they increased amount for route permit?

Sree Sree

November 18th, 2011, 02:48 PM

who will travel in that Blue color dappa SETC for 320?its time for SETC to maintain the bus well.

thalapathy_1

November 18th, 2011, 04:43 PM

yes 320 rupees is over for that dabba bus.But no other way way we want to travel with that only.Whatever govt says we should follow.

pritm

November 18th, 2011, 05:44 PM

All our private buses are operated with ordinary bus permit or what?..
TN most Intercity buses are with Omni bus permit only.
Tax 300/seat/Qtr

vgraja

November 18th, 2011, 05:53 PM

TN most Intercity buses are with Omni bus permit only.
Tax 300/seat/Qtr

Rs3000/Seat/Qtrly

Ramthesoldier

November 18th, 2011, 06:02 PM

This is not huge sir. We didnt see hikes for past 10 yrs. Now we are getting it.. thats all.. Whoever has the minumum bus ticket, Rs.2, post it.. We may not see that from tomorrow . :)

No idea about that.. Im searching for the press release from TN Govt.
my think is bus fare hike is essential for our government,so everyone must accepted this .

ceeznic pirate

November 18th, 2011, 06:17 PM

The new mofussil bus rates are closely matching the previous UD bus rates.

TNSTC buses are yet to update the fares in the electronic ticketing machines. They are manually writing fares in tickets.

Bus fare from S.P.Koil - Villupuram (New rate -64 and Old rate-37)
http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/502/busfares.jpg

Ramthesoldier

November 18th, 2011, 06:22 PM

yes 320 rupees is over for that dabba bus.But no other way way we want to travel with that only.Whatever govt says we should follow.
its all our fate to use that duppa bus,
Hereafter everythink will go fine in tnstc ,this is the final chance for them

Ramthesoldier

November 18th, 2011, 06:29 PM

Sree Sree

November 18th, 2011, 08:59 PM

SRM

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/6817/gfgffp.jpg

gvijayan

November 19th, 2011, 12:05 AM

Protests

As per KTV 4.30AM IST news, there were protests in the state against the bus fare hike yesterday!.

dhandapanik

November 19th, 2011, 02:24 AM

The new mofussil bus rates are closely matching the previous UD bus rates.

TNSTC buses are yet to update the fares in the electronic ticketing machines. They are manually writing fares in tickets.

Bus fare from S.P.Koil - Villupuram (New rate -64 and Old rate-37)

No sir cbe already updated them in ticketing machines. I got the updated ticket in pollachi-palani route...

uppili

November 19th, 2011, 03:07 AM

In northern part of India people use railway to commute rather than buses.Of course reserved seats and buying tickets are not followed as sincerely as in TN. Time for people of TN to move towards travelling more by train.Or simply reduce unwanted loitering.

thillai_selvan

November 19th, 2011, 04:07 AM

MTC bus passes allowed in Exp buses without additional fares :)

Kunil143

November 19th, 2011, 05:50 AM

dhandapanik

November 19th, 2011, 06:24 AM

From Place:
CHENNAI CMBT
Date of Journey:
20/11/2011
To Place:
TRICHY
Class of Service
VOLVO AC
Preferred Journey Time:
00:00-12:00
1030CHETRIVV03V
VILLUPURAM
522A
10:30
CHENNAI
CHENNAI CMBT
TRICHY

VOLVO AC has been added to the booking site of TNSTC

It was added long back.. I think we posted the same here.. I mean listing of Volvos.. Pondy and hosur also getting listed..
Chennai-pondy Volvo starts at 8.00pm
Chennai-hosur Volvo starts at 10.00pm..
All these are from kanchi region(vv03) and they are modified mtc Volvos..

KSRaj

November 19th, 2011, 07:05 AM

Dear friends,

Express buses fares need clarity. Before the hike, 3x2 seater Express (just sticker) buses were collecting 5 or 10 Rs more than normal mofussil services. They were not collecting 32 paise per km rate I guess.

TNSTC is going deliberately aggressive on the price increase by jacking up the so-called Express services by nearly 80% which is very bad! There should not be such a steep increase in these 3x2 buses which have no change in fleet type or comfort level than normal mofussil services (now at 42 paise/km).

So, 3x2 seater Express services can be fixed at 10% more than mofussil services. Otherwise, keeping two rates 42 paise/km and 56 paise/km for the same (3x2) fleet will only help TNSTCs to cheat public by simply sticking 'Express' sticker and making 30% more revenue is not right.

Cheers,
Raj

Ramthesoldier

November 19th, 2011, 09:00 AM

SRM

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/6817/gfgffp.jpg
will it operate by government ?

Ramthesoldier

November 19th, 2011, 09:06 AM

SRM

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/6817/gfgffp.jpg
will it operate by government ?
sorry

Arul Murugan

November 19th, 2011, 09:10 AM

Mannargudi mafia behind this bus fare hike? Savukku Article (http://savukku.net/home1/1363-2011-11-18-10-16-37.html)

with this fare hike, those who have dream that transport system will improve or bring back the glory again will finally see this

http://www.hindu.com/2007/03/15/images/2007031502740201.jpg

Arul Murugan

November 19th, 2011, 09:14 AM

Sree Sree

November 19th, 2011, 09:49 AM

will it operate by government ?
sorry

no by SRM Transport

dr_thapalathy

November 19th, 2011, 11:02 AM

Guys, i think i have experienced the effect of the fare increase in Tamilnadu. The changes i have noted are:

1. Most of the TNSTCs have updated it in their ETVMs. Rs 14 was collected from Thiruvanmyiur to CMBT.
2. TNSTC VPMs, which are one of the slowest - going just at 70 kmph in GST Road, are really speeding up. (One TNSTC VPM to Salem, infact overtook the PRTC bus which i came in via GST Road).
3. I saw two SETCs competing with the PRTC bus i came in, from Perungalathur till Tindivanam.

I think the speed restriction has been lifted.

dr_thapalathy

November 19th, 2011, 11:08 AM

Atleast now, TN STUs must implement the following things:

1. TNSTCs must increase the frequency of Normal buses and decrease the frequency of Express buses, so that the tag EXPRESS makes a meaning. The EXPRESS tag was really useful when i saw it for the first time in 2002-03 when i used it between Chennai and Pondy. Now, the special buses will add up to the revenue of TNSTCs, instead of eating them up.

2. MTC must cut down all M Services, LSS and Express Tags. They must have only Ordinary - White Board and Delux - Blue Board. I hope, MTC will start breaking even from the next year and the Volvos will start running in profit.

3. SETCs must remove atleast the Speed Restriction in their buses, if not the Bed Bugs.

dr_thapalathy

November 19th, 2011, 11:12 AM

As i read in the previous posts, that standees must not be allowed in EXPRESS Buses, i beg to differ here:

EXPRESS buses can allow standees, but should crater to only the END - END passengers and not the intermediate passengers. For eg, an TNSTC EXPRESS bus, moving from Chennai to Pondy, can have the seats filled for Pondy and Tindivanam and can even allow standees to these places, apart from having standees to Melmaruvathur, which is a stopping in the GST Road itself. They should not go inside any town, deviating from the main GST Road.

NORMAL buses must crater to the in-between towns. They must enter Chengalpet, Maduranthagam and also the two towns in-between Pondy and Tindivanam.

dhandapanik

November 19th, 2011, 11:56 AM

Looks like its pondy's turn to increase the bus fare.. Saw a news item in dinamalar.. Someone pls confirm.

N.kumar

November 19th, 2011, 12:05 PM

Finally it happens - this has been expected since a very long time. I'd congratulate the government for keeping the ordinary fares low, so that short distance commuters are not pinched.

A comparo between the Southern States:

TN fares are as above - a recap:
Ordinary: 42 ps/km
Mofussil (Express??): 56ps/km
SD: 60ps/km
UD: 70ps/km.

Kerala fares:
Ordinary/City Ordinary: 55ps/km
Fast Passenger/City Fast: 57ps/km
Super Fast/Express: 60ps/km
Super Express: 65ps/km
Super Deluxe: 75ps/km
AC: 90ps/km
Volvo: 110ps/km
City Low Floor Non-AC: 75ps/km
City Low Floor AC: 150ps/km

Karnataka Fares: (Official GO on fares is not available. SO the fares are based on old GO, and the recent fare increase was added to the old rates - so the rates are only approximate)
Ordinary (except City/Town services): 69ps/km
Express: 75ps/km
Semi-Deluxe: 80ps/km
Super Deluxe: 107ps/km
Hitech: 117ps/km
Volvo: Fares are left to the STU to decide, based on revenue/demand
(I think Rajahamsa comes in the Hitech category, and Vaibhav in the Super Deluxe category).

Andhra Pradesh Fares: (According to news reports - last hike on July 15, 2011)

Palle Valugu (Ordinary): 50ps/km
Express: 62 ps/km
Deluxe: 70 ps/km
Super Luxure: 82 ps/km
Garuda (Volvo): 140ps/km

Pondicherry Fares: (Based on GOs issued on 08.11.2008 and 03.05.2010)

Express: 27 ps/km
Deluxe: 75 ps/km
Deluxe AC: 150ps/km

Though Not in the South,

Maharashtra Fares:
Ordinary/Express: 0.80 ps/km
Night Express: 0.93 ps/km
Semi-Luxury: 107 ps/km
AC Sheetal: 142 ps/km
AC Shivneri: 198 ps/km

There is no specific information about fares in Goa!

SO TN continues to have the lowest fares.

I request dhandapani and binai to have this comparision on their respective blogs

Also the city fares for rest of TN, chennai fares, volvo fares and delux, oridnary split up dhandapani posted. This will help.

Getting pissed with over the blown talk that this is too much of an increase. Increase is too much only in volvo fares in chennai and daily passes.

Even daily pass, get on to 4 deluxe buses - min charge is 28. with so many connection, it will still be profitable is my guess.
..............................................

Now to ksraj and other feeling express tag is cheating. Good you have a mix. See kerala rates for ordinary and even fast passenger.
56 p for express tagged 3/2 is similar.

Only kerala express bus is 60p.

Request Binai to enlighten us on average speed or journey times in the three categories.

ordinary, fast passenger and express in kerala and compare it to running time in TN stc and also the seating arrangement of these buses.

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personally it will affect my travelling expense as well. i like to take a bus every weekend and go to various places. its digsa hole now. so far stay only was affecting now even travel will. but that is ineveitable as along as nations economy is mismanged and we never allow rupee to appreciate.

One day mineral water will 30 rs and milk 50 rs. Already water 30 rs inside that good for nothing chennai airport.
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N.kumar

November 19th, 2011, 12:15 PM

deepu051993

November 19th, 2011, 12:43 PM

2. MTC must cut down all M Services, LSS and Express Tags. They must have only Ordinary - White Board and Delux - Blue Board. I hope, MTC will start breaking even from the next year and the Volvos will start running in profit.

In todays dinamalar cbe edition read that only 4 types of service is to be run and all others to be abolished, didnt remember whats all. M service is removed.

Arul Murugan

November 19th, 2011, 12:47 PM

Now to ksraj and other feeling express tag is cheating. Good you have a mix. See kerala rates for ordinary and even fast passenger.
56 p for express tagged 3/2 is similar.

Only kerala express bus is 60p.

Request Binai to enlighten us on average speed or journey times in the three categories.

ordinary, fast passenger and express in kerala and compare it to running time in TN stc and also the seating arrangement of these buses.

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n.kumar,

unlike other rtc, tnstc don't have any proper definition for express or ordinary tag. Thats is the main issue!!

most of the inter city routes b/w dt HQ (more than 100KM) have express tag, but enter into every small towns en-route what a town bus or ordinary bus is supposed to do.

Arul Murugan

November 19th, 2011, 01:02 PM

On service ofn TNSTC, speed and modern fleet, it will take a years time to see changes.

Already we are seeing makeovers for many new but made dabba in 2 years buses. A ppp body buulding is proposed. Spares are being bought. Some 3000 buses being bought, SETC seeing major makeover in terms of maintenance and new fleet addition.

All this is shore up cash flow. Without having a decent cash flow none of it can be achieved. so will take time to achieve. A sick unit cant be overturned in a months time.

And we have the unions of drivers, conductors,other staff coming in this as well. There will be some resistance, some wont work citing unions. Its an uphill task.

For next 1 year here must be a moratorium on further permits for omni buses and I really really hope omni buses jack up the rates to a good high.

Else idea of hiking fares without improving service can backfire. its a dicey situation.

kumar,

everything is hope, hope and hope. ;) I just add one more hope with that... I hope that the cash flow doesn't goes to mafia gang and freebies.

tn transport network was one of the main reason for state's economic growth since economic liberalization. i.e it helped a lot in people's mobility for weekdays as well weekend. I only hope this network and transport dept doen't become history by killing it as much damage is done already.

Vicvin86

November 19th, 2011, 01:58 PM

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By vintn (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/vintn) at 2011-11-19

Ramesh-NTM

November 19th, 2011, 02:08 PM

Its very much atrocious...
Already the price is hike..
All the M services in 119, 119A series in MTC are converted as delux...
I paid extra 7 rupees( with MTC monthly pass) even for Velachery - Taramani route...
119, 119A is used by many poor people...
BTW the conductors in buses got many "good" words from people...
MTC looks less crowd in many buses.. Dunno whether it is rainy day effect or bus hike effect... :)
And the LSS services in 5G route converted as Express service...
I expected this government to raise fares transparently and remove all back door tactics introduced by the previous government. But they proved they are in no way different from previous party. Though the bold decision of bus fare revision came up openly, they had added so many back door tactics too in MTC.

I noticed express and deluxe buses in M7 and M119 routes. To my knowledge M119 had 2 deluxe buses operated by SP depot for sometime which were later made M service again. But M119 has express, deluxe now. M7 was entirely M & deluxe but had ADI029 (a dabba bus) today tagged as express. The highlight comedy is M1 which is one of short routes in MTC in Velachery area had seen express tag today :nuts:. M15 also joined this list with DLX tag. All these buses have their normal white or M service board with express or DLX painted added above their route numbers.

It is really atrocious and I'm scared to walk out towards CMBT for TNSTC's tactics.:fiddle:
thanks
Ramesh

N.kumar

November 19th, 2011, 02:10 PM

Vicvin86

November 19th, 2011, 02:17 PM

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dr_thapalathy

November 19th, 2011, 02:22 PM

Looks like its pondy's turn to increase the bus fare.. Saw a news item in dinamalar.. Someone pls confirm.

PRTC and private players based in Pondy also have increased their fares in Tamilnadu routes from Today morning. I travelled today in PRTC and they charged me Rs 92 from CMBT to Pondy.

N.kumar

November 19th, 2011, 02:41 PM

City bus fare details for Rest of TN, Except Chennai
The fares for the stage carriages plying as “City and Town services” other than in the Chennai Metropolitan area on routes/
areas in the State of Tamil Nadu shall not exceed the fares calculated at rates given in the table below:-
TABLE
Stage - Fares(Rs)
1 - 3.00 4.5
2 - 4.00 6
3 - 4.00 6
4 - 4.00 6
5 - 5.00 7.5
6 - 6.00 9
7 - 6.00 9
8 - 7.00 10.5
9 - 7.00 10.5
10 - 8.00
11 - 8.00
12 - 9.00
13 - 10.00
14 - 10.00
15 - 10.00
16 - 10.00
17 - 10.00
18 - 11.00
19 - 11.00
20 - 12.00
(A Stage approximating as far as practicable to two kilometres).
2. In respect of limited stop services/ point to point services wherever they are operated, a flat charge of 50 paise per ticket
shall be collected in addition to the fares fixed in the Table above.
3. If it is expedient to operate Express types of services for the benefit of travelling public, one and a half times of the ordinary
fare for such operation shall be charged.
TAMIL NADU GOVERNMENT GAZETTE EXTRAORDINARY 5
4. In respect of operation of night services two times of the ordinary fare shall be collected.
5. In respect of operation of deluxe services, two times of the limited stop service fare shall be collected.
6. In respect of Town services operated in Ghat section, the limited stop service fare fixed for town services in the plain shall
be adopted.
7. The fares shall be rounded off to the next higher multiple of fifty paise.
Explanation-I : “Ghat Road” means a road notified in the Tamil Nadu Government Gazette as such by the Government under
the Tamil Nadu Traffic Rules, 1938 and indicated in a notice board erected at each end of such road.
Explanation-II: The fares fixed in the table above shall also apply to Rameshwaram Island.

Though this is for other than chennai, it will be more or less the same.

now lets see what ramesh had to say

To my knowledge M119 had 2 deluxe buses operated by SP depot for sometime which were later made M service again. But M119 has express, deluxe now

So originally it was had two deluxe. deluxe was being operated as M?

now they have partially made it deluxe and M. are non slf buses being operated as deluxe?

So whats wrong in it? they have only made it even better.

M service was flat rate charges right? based on what dhandapani has given express tag is 1.5 times. Green board express buses had long gone,now they are back. qn is in chennai does the lss category exist still? whats difference between lss,express?

Mostly fares of express and M will match. if all fares went up M fare too would have gone up right? now M has been removed. You just have M in front for namesake. M is just a route no now. Instead its called express.

so for first fes stages this is what express will mostly charge

Stage - ordFares exp fares(Rs)
1 - 3.00 4.5
2 - 4.00 6
3 - 4.00 6
4 - 4.00 6
5 - 5.00 7.5
6 - 6.00 9
7 - 6.00 9
8 - 7.00 10.5
9 - 7.00 10.5

now how is this not fair?
M service stand abolished repeat. only ordinary, lss, express, deluxe, volvo ac in chennai i think

In chennai max is 14
.........

dhandapani whats max for express/deluxe?

chnavis

November 19th, 2011, 02:43 PM

Chennai bus fare hiked by AIADMK govt, with no service guarantees

by Straphanger
Link (http://straphanger.wordpress.com/2011/11/17/chennai-bus-fare-hiked-by-aiadmk-govt-with-no-service-guarantees/)

I Agree this Subbu. But i dont know how many people from this community like this statement.

Now days the facility is very worst in SETC. I am seeing the posts in this community from the beginning they were not passengers friendly. Long ago i i posted the new SETC new SD sorry UD buses were very uncomfortable for sitting, but some people in this community were posted it was very comfortable. I dont know either that people never traveled in new SETC bus or they may brokers of private bus groups :nuts:.

I didnt see any useful changes made in transport after the comments posted after here, If it happened means u can publish those at here. It ll be very effective and boost the users. or else the community will like a tamil proverb " KUNDU SADDILA KUTHIRAI ODDURATHU".

I am seeing some users in this community were have god names and they were always welcome and say YES for what ever the ruling party. They should stop posting comments like always say YES for all.

The govt (ruling and ruled parties) did not take care about the transports at any point of time. Especially SETC. Thats why the SETC is going like this. Earlier they told the transport will be handover to private. (I feel if it will be happened means definitely we will suffer. Their motivation should be their own growth not will be a service minded.) thats why the transport were not maintained and did not buy any new bused nor introduced new services. Next govt just bought the buses not maintained anything. Really this was the main reason for loss. At least the workshops should be handover to private companies. No one did that. I feel that scheme might not fill their pocket rather than new buses. I heard it 2 yrs back the extra fittings (lighting, and side mirror) contracts was handover to a transports minister's friend. But I agree the comfortable of 36 seating was very good maintenance was veryyy bad. Now days an young man charged over to the transport ministry. I thought he ll made that like old Thiruvalluvar.

At the beginning of his charge he visited many body built unit and released the press notes as he checked the comfortable of the buses and seating arrangements. He told the new buses will be designed very comfortable. After that a new SETC were running with most comfortable from 36 seats to 44 seats and the slope was also awesome. Finally i found his audit in the body building unit was excellent. If he ll runs this transport ministry like this means definitely the transport " YENGAIYO POIDUM"

So " YENTHA KOMBAN VANTHALUM NAAI VAALA NIMUTHA MUDIYATHU"

N.kumar

November 19th, 2011, 02:44 PM

Arul,

Just noticed you have raised similar point in mtc thread. I knew you will come to that, thats why asked binai. lets wait for his reply

Just because you are used to paying unrealistically low fares, its unfair to say this fare hike is not digestable.

Here, people are paying Rs. 500 for a 720km journey (Kottarakkara to Kollur) in a 3x2 Express bus. Similarly people are paying Rs. 350 for a 500 kms journey in Karnataka (Bangalore to Belgaum) and so on.

but what is the journey time?

TNSTC is known for its long running time when other STC has considerably reduced their running time after 4-laning and adjusting their KMPL target.

If TNSTC express mofusil can do the four simple facts, the fare hike can be accepted.

1. Decreasing the running time of mofusil express bus
2. Not dumping the standees from via towns (this is happening in most of the express mofusil 3*2 buses). This is one of the reason why passenger transported per bus stands high in case of TN compared to other states.
3. Stopping in decent motels
4. Crew response.

It is well known all TNSTC lags much behind compared to other STC in these 4points. The fare hike should have come with these 4 points. But the greedy oppicers will not implement this and also the top management/minster will also know about these facts.

between kerala ordinary is 55p. TN ordinary is 42P. So still TN is cheaper.

Kerala has another category - fast passenger - 57 p. our express category is 56p.

I think all these are 3*2 buses in kerala too

kerala express category is 60 p. our super deluxe is 60 p.

There is another category called super express. 65 p in kerala and their super deluxe is 75p(i think this is their UD version?)

TN ud is 70p.

Binai kindly request you to share the difference between various categories of kerala buses, in terms of seating arrangement, journey time, push back available? so on.

Thanks. That will help to put to rest a lot of things here.

.

krishnaswamy

November 19th, 2011, 02:56 PM

cross posting from Trichy...
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=85828517&postcount=391

trichy-Tanjore express bus fare is 31 Rs.
normally 70 EEP will be there.. so 2170 RS collected.
this route is now 4 laned and normally this route has very good TNSTC buses.they can easily achieve 4.5k KM/Diesel..
For fuel, it will be 500 Rs only.. rest 1600 Rs can be used for crew's salary, maintenance and part of profits can be spent to compensate loss making routes...

hm.. 31 Rs from Thanjavur to Trichy is just too much..
could anyone tell me how much is between Thanjavur-Kumbakonam, Thanjavur-Pattukottai.. these routes are also money Trees for Private buses..

Best time for pushing Trichy-Tanjore Doubling(train) and operate more passenger services..

Ramesh-NTM

November 19th, 2011, 02:59 PM

Though this is for other than chennai, it will be more or less the same.

now lets see what ramesh had to say

So originally it was had two deluxe. deluxe was being operated as M?

now they have partially made it deluxe and M. are non slf buses being operated as deluxe?

So whats wrong in it? they have only made it even better.

M service was flat rate charges right? based on what dhandapani has given express tag is 1.5 times. Green board express buses had long gone,now they are back. qn is in chennai does the lss category exist still? whats difference between lss,express?

Mostly fares of express and M will match. if all fares went up M fare too would have gone up right? now M has been removed. You just have M in front for namesake. M is just a route no now. Instead its called express.

so for first fes stages this is what express will mostly charge

Stage - ordFares exp fares(Rs)
1 - 3.00 4.5
2 - 4.00 6
3 - 4.00 6
4 - 4.00 6
5 - 5.00 7.5
6 - 6.00 9
7 - 6.00 9
8 - 7.00 10.5
9 - 7.00 10.5

now how is this not fair?

.........

dhandapani whats max for express/deluxe?Dear Sir,

Pls note that I'm neither against the fare hike nor against conversion of a normal/ M-serive to express/ dlx, why even an AC volvo. But my only question is why there are these many changes in a day or two? I don't know about you but for me, it appears a third rate back door tactics in addition to the front door fare hike across TN. Earlier govt. couldn't do it front door, so they permitted the regional MDs or even depot managers of TNS(E)TC's to do all back door tactics of converting many normal buses into M/express/deluxe in MTC and pseudo-express or collecting UD fare in regional TNSTC's SD's to keep STC's alive in bed atleast. Moreover, every TNSTC had fixed its own fare hike for any route coming under its territory. Can you tell me any moffussil route today which had the same fare right from May, 2005 till two days back? In addition, they have special rates on weekends and during crowded times.

I want all these to be stopped since they have made the hike in a very transparent manner. If that appears that I want all SLF buses to charge normal fares, sorry that's not my mistake.

Thanks
Ramesh

N.kumar

November 19th, 2011, 03:04 PM

Ramesh,

M service stands abolished. So obvious that M will be converted to express or deluxe if M was operated with an slf bus. Thats it to it.

krishnaswamy

November 19th, 2011, 03:05 PM

In addition, they have special rates on weekends and during crowded times.
I want all these to be stopped since they have made the hike in a very transparent manner. If that appears that I want all SLF buses to charge normal fares, sorry that's not my mistake.
Thanks
Ramesh
+1000

N.kumar

November 19th, 2011, 03:10 PM

Krishnaswamy - tell me why rs 31 is too much? its a cool 60 km. assuming even if car mileage is 18 km, thats close to 3.4 ltrs of petrol.

Thats close to 240 rs. 5 in a bus will be 150. still its more cheap by bus.

This is express bus. you get an ordinary - it will be less at 42 p per km.

Only difference is in car u will reach soon. and if its diesel car even more. See binais post of rates in other states to arul, which i quoted and tell me why its over?

too much is the petrol diesel price, hence that of essential commodities, hence that of salries of govt employee. we were lucky all along to pay less fares.

Unless we do something with that dreaded rupee and some stupid schemes of central govt, this will continue.

chnavis

November 19th, 2011, 03:12 PM

Dear Sir,

Pls note that I'm neither against the fare hike nor against conversion of a normal/ M-serive to express/ dlx, why even an AC volvo. But my only question is why there are these many changes in a day or two? I don't know about you but for me, it appears a third rate back door tactics in addition to the front door fare hike across TN. Earlier govt. couldn't do it front door, so they permitted the regional MDs or even depot managers of TNS(E)TC's to do all back door tactics of converting many normal buses into M/express/deluxe in MTC and pseudo-express or collecting UD fare in regional TNSTC's SD's to keep STC's alive in bed atleast. Moreover, every TNSTC had fixed its own fare hike for any route coming under its territory. Can you tell me any moffussil route today which had the same fare right from May, 2005 till two days back? In addition, they have special rates on weekends and during crowded times.

I want all these to be stopped since they have made the hike in a very transparent manner. If that appears that I want all SLF buses to charge normal fares, sorry that's not my mistake.

Thanks
Ramesh

^^

krishnaswamy

November 19th, 2011, 03:16 PM

Thats close to 240 rs. 5 in a bus will be 150. still its more cheap by bus.

This is express bus. you get an ordinary - it will be less at 42 p per km.

1. Trichy- Tanjore has 1:5 ordinary-express buses... getting ordinary buses is difficult. do you think MDs of these transport corporations are stupids to run more ordinary buses in cash crop routes?
2. There is a cost associated for 5 people to travel to Thanjavur new bus stand. ticket fare from thanjavur old bus stand to Trichy is different.
3. There is a cost associated for people to move to their end locations from Trichy bus stand...
4. I have considered only 70 EEP passengers. but there are lot of intermediate passengers from Thanjavur, to Vallam, SASTRA, REC, BHEL, Tiruvermbur, Kattur, Palpannai... So buses are easily having carrying 100 people.
4. is it justifiable to keep the ticket cost very high, when the fuel cost is just 25% of it?

Arul Murugan

November 19th, 2011, 03:24 PM

Arul,

Tell me havent you not seen any improvements? In this very forums we have pics of better cleaning, buses being redone, ac buses getting better care than before, online reservation being launched at good speed,e-ticketing machines scheme - arent these steps in right direction? ppp body building unti announced?

only e-ticket i would accept. Face lift of buses would have happened in due course, it is not done due to cm or transport minister direction. haven't we seen face lift of dabba buses in previous rule? it happens time to time. I remember our SRDF venkat comment... from 2002, SETC has proved his words. Even the recently face lifted buses will face the same fate in 1yr and in same forum we can see members posting 2011 and 2012 pic.

ppp plan we have to wait and see!! etho announce pannalum ethavathu scam irukumanu bayama irukku.:nuts:

If there is one freebie she announced and hasnt implemented it is with regards to buses. reduced bus charge or free travel for elders and students for city or within town travel.

that has to be appreciated.. but even if implemented i don't think it is going to make huge expense! Anyway happy that she can stopped the dangerous trend that free travel in gvt buses in starting phase itself... because in 2016 election if dmk announce free travel for 60+ in rtc, then admk will announce free travel for all in rtc for rat race.

Please tell me how this move is killing transport department? If its higher than kerala I will accept. The killing will happen only if service dont impove, but signs are to opposite. There are good positive signs so far. Two more needed. Journey time and bed bugs issue.

For you it looks the rtc is moving is improving side, for me except e-ticket it is in same position. I said it will get killed if the bolded ones are not addressed asap especially for setc.

I will give it time before reaching a decsion. If this is not set right in next 4 months along with indications in budget for modern buses induction for intercity, then I too will say the same. Now to conclude is a hurry and can only issue an alert

yes... even I am not judging over night. If you have seen my post 2pages before, I have said the same. Things cannot happen over night, we have to wait and see.

There were many new deluxe buses, jnnnurm which were not operated as SLF but as M and even ordinary. Then no one has a problem.

But now when an slf is operated as deluxe our forummer has a problem. We still have a healthy mix of slf and ordinary buses. The recent additions for like a year mostly have been ordinary buses and even now the 100 ordred are ordinary.

I have lot of confusion on this classification on MTC, so no comments. But hope you might have seen my post on express tags which are really not fit for that.

The real killer was years of neglect and not hiking it even moderately so far.

Transport department revenue cannot go to other sector freebies. only in transport sector. Looting can always happen.

no.. anything can happen sir!

It was already on death bed and looking good to die. Either this fare increase has to happen or you stop other freebies like zero rupee rice, mixie, grinder, laptop,goats so on.

Use that fund for this. Even if thats the case, may be transport sector and milk sector can be met. But not power sector.

see thatha managed the sector because cost of spending on freebies was less in 2006-2011 compared to the proposed one from 2011 to 2016 because of tons of freebies by new gvt.

cost of spending on freebies directly proportional to bus, milk, electricity fare hike. Surely it will bring a feeling that old gvt was better thaan present gvt with this steeeeeeeeeep fare hike.

if the freebies cost was reduced and rise was moderate or step by step, people might have received this shock in different way.

Anyways modern 'world class' bars have been ordered to get more revenue. Already oppicers are in great hurry, scouting for locations.

one is coming up in velacherry... we should ask them to open one at siruseri.. appo thaan chennai is like B city nu silla pugal padigaluku nammalum sollalam...:lol:

China has cleverly manipulated its currency while we r doing opposite just t benfit few individuals.

we opened this topic, didn't discuss much... can you mail some good link about this so that i can understand why our currency is at 50 and their's at 6.3!!

gvijayan

November 19th, 2011, 03:34 PM

only e-ticket i would accept. Face lift of buses would have happened in due course, it is not done due to cm or transport minister direction. haven't we seen face lift of dabba buses in previous rule? it happens time to time. I remember our SRDF venkat comment... from 2002, SETC has proved his words. Even the recently face lifted buses will face the same fate in 1yr and in same forum we can see members posting 2011 and 2012 pic.

ppp plan we have to wait and see!! etho announce pannalum ethavathu scam irukumanu bayama irukku.:nuts:

I beg to differ from you on this. There have been positive signs since the rule change happened.

These things never happened in the previous rule and never would have happened if that rule had continued.

I seriously don't understand what makes you to be this pessimistic after the fare hike.

We are forgetting the fact that, we are still having the lowest fare structure in the country.

Also, I don't see a reason why the additional revenue will be used for freebies, when the Transport corporations themselves have a deep financial crisis. We can see that happening if these fare hikes will result in a huge profit. But this hike is just going to compensate the loss incurred in the previous years, and to meet the Transport Corporations' own financial needs.

We are also seeing indications of the KMPL targets being revised etc.

It is very premature to come to a conclusion that the quality of the services will not improve and that public will get a naamam, within few days after the hike.

Let us wait for a couple of month before making such comments.

Ramesh-NTM

November 19th, 2011, 03:55 PM

Ramesh,

M service stands abolished. So obvious that M will be converted to express or deluxe if M was operated with an slf bus. Thats it to it.It is a new update for me, thanks for it.

But may I know why MTC will move its M-service buses either to express or deluxe only and no normal services? In M119 & M119A, almost all the buses were old SLF's from 21H & 21L, 519 of AD depot. If these are all converted straightaway to DLX or even express, how will a person from IGP reach places in M119 route from SRP tools till Guindy? He has to take a normal bus (pls note, other than white boards & M-services, no bus will stop here) till SRP tools and change over to some other bus. Since there are no white boards in the entire stretch between SRP tools - Perungudi except M-services that have been re-classified now, how will these people reach SRP tools or even Kandanchavadi?

M-service removal is good, but that should have been in a way that there are many normal buses and then add whatever higher category buses you feel that route can fill in. Simply re-classifying every M-service bus to express/ deluxe creates 2 problems to any passenger here.

-> You are being forced to shell out express/ deluxe fare since there are no normal services or they are rare.
-> Consider the plight of bus stops that were being served by normal & M-services only. What do you have for them now? Will you make all the express/ deluxe converted m-services still stop at those bus stops or you will place a board at the bus stop saying that it is removed by MTC?

In case of M119 & M119A, the best way would have been to move few SLF's to other routes for real DLX or express services and make normal fleet to be the maximum. Let few of existing SLF's (which are currently operated as M-service) be converted as dlx and express services. Even here, it should be ensured that passenger chooses a normal/ express/ deluxe and not the MTC pushing them towards express/ dlx by making these buses bunched together one behind the other, particularly during peak hours. Without such a proper planning for normal buses too, the entire categorisation of normal, LSS, express, dlx, volvo becomes a great comedy.

Sorry for the complete deviation towards MTC.

Ramesh

Mr.Nellai

November 19th, 2011, 03:58 PM

cross posting from Trichy...
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=85828517&postcount=391

trichy-Tanjore express bus fare is 31 Rs.
.

Is it?? Earlier it was 13 Rs for vallam and 15.50 Rs for Tanjore. It is almost double

Mr.Nellai

November 19th, 2011, 04:06 PM

^^^^

Fare increase is inevitable. But, they should have done this fare increase in small increments over a specified time interval. Even though it will benefit the STU's, more than the STUs it is going to benefit the private bus owners for sure.

Vicvin86

November 19th, 2011, 04:09 PM

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November 19th, 2011, 04:32 PM

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November 19th, 2011, 04:33 PM

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Arul Murugan

November 19th, 2011, 04:42 PM

I beg to differ from you on this. There have been positive signs since the rule change happened.

These things never happened in the previous rule and never would have happened if that rule had continued.

vijayan, refurbishment happens time to time whenever fund flows into stc. It is not specific to political party or transport minster.

I seriously don't understand what makes you to be this pessimistic after the fare hike.

because new gvt looks no different from old one.

We are forgetting the fact that, we are still having the lowest fare structure in the country.

of-course that is because of many people using bus for transport and If I am correct, still TNSTC+MTC+SETC put together transport more people in the country. This was discussed before..

if 2500 is the target for collection for 25KM per day.

if 100 people use it charge will be 25 rupees

if 25 people use it charge will be 100 rupees.

The above one is just a small example

I still believe this is the reason why TN buses can be low compared to others.. people are dumped in the buses. I have no complaints because both gvt are same on this

Also, I don't see a reason why the additional revenue will be used for freebies, when the Transport corporations themselves have a deep financial crisis. We can see that happening if these fare hikes will result in a huge profit. But this hike is just going to compensate the loss incurred in the previous years, and to meet the Transport Corporations' own financial needs.

of-course yes, but this does not warrants us improved service.

We are also seeing indications of the KMPL targets being revised etc.

It is very premature to come to a conclusion that the quality of the services will not improve and that public will get a naamam, within few days after the hike.

Let us wait for a couple of month before making such comments.

I didn't deny it. You can check my reply to niranjan as well as my old post. But I have pessimistic view on this! I will be the happiest person if this is proved wrong.

Mr.Nellai

November 20th, 2011, 01:05 AM

Public are angry over hike in bus fare

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Mr.Nellai

November 20th, 2011, 01:07 AM

Fare for monthly bus passes were also increased

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Arul Murugan

November 20th, 2011, 03:27 AM

ganie006

November 20th, 2011, 03:31 AM

Revised Moffusil & Town bus fares from Thanjavur

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dhandapanik

November 20th, 2011, 07:26 AM

Official fare hike started coming up in TNSTC Website..

Madurai-Chennai UD - 315(old 240) , AC 405(Old 385)
Pollachi-Chennai UD-375(Old 275), AC 490(Old 450).

Madurai-Bangalore UD fare is shown as Rs.320.. Not sure about the old fare. Subbu??

Chennai-Trichy UD-230(Old 175), AC-290, Volvo AC - 355(36 seats). Some one tell us the old fares..
Chennai - Nagercoil UD-485(Old 497), AC 625

One more fare hike happened in tnstc web... From poy to Chennai.. Now ud is showing 383(up 8rs) and ac is showing 492(up 2rs)..

Madurai- Chennai ud 325(up by 10rs)ac 420(up by 15rs)..

Madurai- Bangalore is showing 390.. More than Rajahamsa? :)
Total fare in mdu-blore is coming as 434( base fare 390,res fee 15, e ticket fare 10, infra fee 10, pg fee 9).. OMG..

What the hell they are doing.. Some more thing happened in terms of city buses in tnstc-Coimbatore pollachi areas.. Few got converted as express.. All steel body buses charging city exp fare..

dr_thapalathy

November 20th, 2011, 07:38 AM

dhandapanik

November 20th, 2011, 08:16 AM

Madurai- Bangalore is showing 390.. More than Rajahamsa? :)
Total fare in mdu-blore is coming as 434( base fare 390,res fee 15, e ticket fare 10, infra fee 10, pg fee 9).. OMG..

Checked Rajahamsa fare.. It is 425.. 9rs less than our so called setc..

chnavis

November 20th, 2011, 08:50 AM

saw this in one of the social network

TNSTC Nagercoil

per day 80lakhs selavu..

old collection per day 35 to 42lakhs

sterday collection 52lakhs...28lakhs loss

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I guess MTC will emerge as the profit making division among all STC in TN.

Hi Arul
At Nagercoil region, roads are not linear and have many like hills road at west side of the district. Hence the achievable mileage is never possible at here. And the town buses were never gets a new one. Either they get very worst buses from some other region or old moufussil buses from the same region.
And the driver and conductors were also a reason for less collection.
At kanyaumari district doesn’t have any private bus operators. Hence the people believe only the govt transport. But the bus timings are not revised as per the collections. To achieve the mileage the drivers were run 2 or 3 buses together at the same time. Because they could not stop many bus stops. If 2 or 3 buses gone together means will not get any more buses for more than 1 or 1.5 hrs. So the people at the same places are a private cab and share the amount.
At Kanyakumari deport a driver told an incident his collection target for a trip was Rs 3200 one particular day the collection was nearly 600 Rs more. On that day the diesel consumption was nearly 4 ltrs more than usual days. For this more utilization of the diesel he got a memo from the BM. At the same depot a driver got an award for economy diesel consumption. And the same service never achieved the collection target. And the same driver has lot complaints about not stop the bus at the bus stop, ran the bus slowly and ran the bus together with some other buses (either come early or later). The motivations of the higher officers are not well about the collection.

dr_thapalathy

November 20th, 2011, 10:55 AM

Guys, lets have a change. Fed up with lots of mixed reactions on the fare hike and expectations from TNSTC, SETC and MTC. Anyway, it is a needed one.

Here is a treat of UDs and Pseudo-UDs of SETC and TNSTC.

Enjoy!

SETC buses and SETC Counter promoting the Online Reservation
Website: www.tnstc.in

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6230/6368108571_576ed3a698.jpg
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6051/6368102873_6e4ff571bd.jpg

TNSTC Kumbakonam Super Delux buses at Pondy.

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http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6224/6368108027_09de697497.jpg
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6031/6368109743_3bc488ba72.jpg

All the above 4 buses are different buses.

SETC buses

1. ECR Rider - Chennai to Velankanni - TN-01-N-9758 - Built by KMS
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http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6042/6368104645_1188ccd5d5.jpg

2. 1 TO 3 - Tiruchirapalli to Chennai - TN-01-N-9796 - Built by Irizar TVS
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6042/6368104061_3ec607c45f.jpg
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6037/6368103435_06da6e7b08.jpg

3. TN-01-N-7078 - Thiruthuraipoondi to Chennai.
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6031/6368109743_3bc488ba72.jpg
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6032/6368109155_07173b3ed8.jpg

ganie006

November 20th, 2011, 11:08 AM

Is it?? Earlier it was 13 Rs for vallam and 15.50 Rs for Tanjore. It is almost double

Thanjavur-kumbakonam also 31 in express buses

arun82

November 20th, 2011, 12:08 PM

Saravanakkumar

November 20th, 2011, 02:16 PM

Booked a ticket in UD for travelling 27th using my mobile through mobile booking site. Got below message as SMS and didn't get any email. But the booking is confirmed. That i can verify by seeing the details in booked history.

**TNSTC mTicket for saravanakkumar Natarajan** PNRNO:L1254410, FROM: SALEM TO BANGALORE, TRIPCODE:,] JOURNEY DATE:20 11 2011, TIME:, SEATNO:CLASS:, BOARDING AT:SALEM. Carry your Photo ID Card. T&C apply.

Journey date is 27th but in sms it shows as 20th (booking date).
No proper msg or mail after booking the ticket. They are also charging 40rs extra in terms reservation fee and all.
But no proper services .

Arul Murugan

November 21st, 2011, 03:23 AM

Another way how this hike is going to favor the private operators

* Most of the government buses in Salem-Attur route is express mofusil and it charges 35 rupees as new charge and old charge was 20 rupees.

* Private bus operators charges 25 rupees now and old charge was 18rupees. So to save 10 rupees people are preferring private buses inspite of huge rush.

(10 rupees will look small, but 10*2*30=600 rupees will be saving if these commuters choose the priavte bus!!)

புதிய கட்டணம் தெரியாமல் கண்டக்டர்கள் திணறல்

First Published : 19 Nov 2011 12:42:07 PM IST

Last Updated :

தனியார் பஸ்களில் கூட்டம்

சேலம்-ஆத்தூர் இடையே பெரும்பாலன அரசு பஸ்கள் எக்ஸ்பிரஸ் பஸ்களாகவே இயக்கப்படுகின்றன. இந்த பஸ்களில் இதுவரை ரூ.20-ஆக இருந்த கட்டணம் இப்போது ரூ.35 ஆக உயர்த்தப்பட்டுள்ளது. ஆனால் தனியார் பஸ்களில் ரூ.18 ஆக இருந்த கட்டணம் இப்போது ரூ.25 ஆக உயர்ந்துள்ளது.

அரசு மற்றும் தனியார் பஸ்களுக்கு இடையே கட்டண வித்தியாசம் ரூ.10 ஆக இருப்பதால் அரசுப் பேருந்துகளில் ஏற பயணிகள் தயக்கம் காட்டுகின்றனர். இதனால் தனியார் பஸ்களில் கூட்டம் அலைமோதியதாக வாழப்பாடியைச் சேர்ந்த சிவநேசன் என்ற பயணி கூறினார்.

Dinamani

dhandapanik

November 21st, 2011, 04:33 AM

So many irregularities in the fare hike.. Still the pseudo expresses exist..

Palani-Madurai(Ordinary fare) - Rs.50(Private buses and few DGL region buses)
Palani-Madurai(Express Fare) - Rs.64. Buses of Nellai and CBE divn(CBE-Tuty) are operated via DGL Bye pass, and others still running via Sempatti road with increased fare.

Pollachi-Madurai -- Rs.100(Old Ultra deluxe fare. :))

Palani-Pollachi - Rs.30(In private buses)
Palani-Pollachi - Rs.32 CBE divn -- Ordinary fare
Palani-Pollachi - Rs.39 Express(CBE divn)
Palani-Pollachi - Rs.36(Madurai divn). Not sure about the fares Nellai and Kum division.

As per one conductor from VNR region bus, still KMPL limit is not revised. He also said, they have asked to run the bus via DGL bye pass in Palani-Madurai route.

Arul Murugan

November 21st, 2011, 04:42 AM

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Arul Murugan

November 21st, 2011, 05:47 AM

As per one conductor from VNR region bus, still KMPL limit is not revised. He also said, they have asked to run the bus via DGL bye pass in Palani-Madurai route.

I guess decision on KMPL will take one more week, but most likely it will stay on the present target and no reduction which means no reduction in running time.

there is news around that there may be slight modification in the bus fare again today or this week. I guess mofusil express fare will be brought down slightly.

when express fares are higher, surely short distance travelers will not prefer using the express bus!! It is right time to gauge the patronage and divert the bus via bye-pass or not entering the bus stand etc., atleast this way we can some reduction in running time if not through KMPL.

I still don't understand why a 100% full bus needs to enter the intermediate bus stand when the bus is full of EEP!! These simple measure will give huge fuel saving for SETC.. don't know when this will get implemented.

Sathyan

November 21st, 2011, 08:10 AM

Jayalalithaa defends milk price, bus fare hike

Defending the increase of milk prices and bus fares as a “painful” decision taken by her government, Tamil Nadu Chief Minister Jayalalithaa on Sunday slammed opposition parties, including her erstwhile allies, for criticising it out of “political reasons”. Ms. Jayalalithaa also came down on her archrival and Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam chief M. Karunanidhi for flaying the State Cabinet decision, saying he was “shedding crocodile tears” and people were aware of it.

Various political parties including the DMK, actor-politician Vijayakant’s Desiya Murpokku Dravida Kazhagam and Left parties have criticised the steep increase in the prices of milk sold by state-owned Aavin and bus fare announced by Ms. Jayalalithaa.

In a statement in Chennai, she said her Cabinet on November 17, 2011 took “the painful decision” to increase the prices to save the PSUs — Aavin and state transport corporations, left in “bad health” by the previous DMK government.

“We were forced to hike prices as we had no other choice. People should realise this and not give into the statements (by Opposition leaders),” she said requesting their cooperation.

Ms. Jayalalithaa dismissed as a “bag of lies” Mr. Karunanidhi’s statement that despite officials’ request, he had not allowed hiking the prices of milk and bus fares. “He is only pretending to speak for the people. They are aware of his crocodile tears,” she added.

Taking a dig at the DMDK and the Left parties, which had contested the April 2011 Assembly polls in alliance with All India Anna Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam but parted ways ahead of last month’s civic polls, Ms. Jayalalithaa accused their leaders of adopting “double standards” saying they had earlier expressed concern over the state of the PSUs.

Prior to the Assembly polls, these parties had conveyed to her their concern over the DMK’s administrative “mismanagement” and other issues affecting people. “They had said only I can fix these issues by virtue of bold, tough measures,” she said.

“Let their conscience decide if it is right for them to issue statements condemning the hike now,” she said

http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article2643829.ece

Yarume yogiyam/olungu illa......
This is the same old stories we here...... we are sick of this...... when ever she come to power her first and foremost work will be to change/destroy what ever setup by previous govt, complain abt previous govt...... If she really feels that previous govt has dont bad things let her do good things people will come to know the real fact.....( For this i will blame our TN state peoples only.... AIADMK was not good so our people gave power to DMK now again they shifted from DMK to AIADMK.....) Any how we people are not going to any thing from government......
One thing we should understand clearly abt this fare hike.... it will not cause any major problem to rich people....... but there are many many peoples live depending on this services regularly( we can write a full page on how people depending on it...)
For us a 10 or 20 rupees difference will not be big issue but think of people earning 100 rupees a day...... 90% of people who use STC are below middle class people they are not rich....... every one knows the value of money....... here in this thread some said our STC is under huge loss so we need a fare hike so it will come up....... we just talk and write but we cant do any thing or not going to give any financial help to STC.......
Just remember one think Every thing was fine with Thiruvalluvar Transport Co... it all happened only after changing to JJTC......

uppili

November 21st, 2011, 08:11 AM

50% bus service can be given to private sector to reduce TNSTC/SETC admin losses. It is not new as all over the world Public Sector for service is becoming White elephant

Ramthesoldier

November 21st, 2011, 08:56 AM

Nice one Reno. Thanks for sharing.
which state to state

venkatm

November 21st, 2011, 09:59 AM

Yarume yogiyam/olungu illa......
This is the same old stories we here...... we are sick of this...... when ever she come to power her first and foremost work will be to change/destroy what ever setup by previous govt, complain abt previous govt...... If she really feels that previous govt has dont bad things let her do good things people will come to know the real fact.....( For this i will blame our TN state peoples only.... AIADMK was not good so our people gave power to DMK now again they shifted from DMK to AIADMK.....) Any how we people are not going to any thing from government......
One thing we should understand clearly abt this fare hike.... it will not cause any major problem to rich people....... but there are many many peoples live depending on this services regularly( we can write a full page on how people depending on it...)
For us a 10 or 20 rupees difference will not be big issue but think of people earning 100 rupees a day...... 90% of people who use STC are below middle class people they are not rich....... every one knows the value of money....... here in this thread some said our STC is under huge loss so we need a fare hike so it will come up....... we just talk and write but we cant do any thing or not going to give any financial help to STC.......
Just remember one think Every thing was fine with Thiruvalluvar Transport Co... it all happened only after changing to JJTC......

People should decide whether they want essentials on subsidy
OR
Non essentials like mixie, TV, grinder, laptop, cycle free

They can't have both!

Saravanakkumar

November 21st, 2011, 10:28 AM

சென்னை: சென்னை மாநகர போக்குவரத்து கழகத்தில் இயக்கப்பட்டு வந்த 1,000 சாதாரண பஸ்கள் விரைவு மற்றும் சொகுசு பஸ்களாக மாற்றப்பட்டுள்ளன. இதனால் பொதுமக்கள் கவலை அடைந்துள்ளனர்.

தமிழகத்தில் நிதி நெருக்கடியை சமாளிக்கும் வகையில் பால் விலை, பஸ் கட்டண உயர்த்தப்பட்டுள்ளது. இதற்கு எதிர்ப்பு தெரிவித்து பொதுமக்களும், பல கட்சியினரும் போராட்டங்கள் நடத்தி வருகின்றனர்.

இந்த நிலையில் சென்னை மாநகர போக்குவரத்து கழகத்தில் இயங்கி வந்த 1,000 சாதரண பஸ்கள், விரைவு மற்றும் சொகுசு பஸ்களாக மாற்றப்பட்டுள்ளது. முன்னதாக சென்னையில் சாதாரண, எல்.எஸ்.எஸ், எம். சர்வீஸ், பி.பி. விரைவு, சொகுசு, வால்வோ ஏசி என 7 பிரிவுகளில் பஸ்கள் இயக்கப்பட்டன.

தற்போது அவை சாதாரண, விரைவு, சொகுசு, வால்வோ என்று 4 வகைகளாகக் குறைக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது. 1,000 சாதாரண கட்டண பஸ்கள் தற்போது குறைக்கப்பட்டுள்ளதால் பொதுமக்கள் கடும் அவதிக்குள்ளாகியுள்ளனர்.

தமிழக அரசு அமலப்படுத்தியுள்ள பஸ் கட்டண உயர்வினால் தினமும் ரூ.25 லட்சம் கூடுதல் வருமானம் கிடைக்கிறது.

தமிழ்நாடு போக்குவரத்து ஊழியர்கள் சம்மேளன துணைத் தலைவர் சந்திரன் கூறியதாவது,

பஸ் கட்டண உயர்வு அமல்படுத்தப்பட்ட பிறகு பேட்டா குறைக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது. ரூ.1000 வசூலித்தால் ரூ.23.50 பேட்டாவாக வழங்கப்பட்டது. ஆனால் தற்போது அதனை ரூ.16.50 குறைக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது. டி.ஏ. மற்றும் பேட்டாவை உயர்த்தி வழங்கக் கோரி வரும் 24ம் தேதி போராட்டம் நடத்த உள்ளோம் என்றார்.

1,000 ordinary buses of Chennai transport corporation has been changed into deluxe buses. As TN government has already increased the bus fare, this sudden reduction of 1,000 ordinary buses makes the people feel really bad.

Source: http://tamil.oneindia.in/news/2011/11/21/1000-ordinary-buses-upgraded-as-deluxe-buses-aid0180.html

Sree Sree

November 21st, 2011, 10:38 AM

what is the fare of madurai - nellai BRP now?

Arul Murugan

November 21st, 2011, 10:41 AM

தமிழக அரசு அமலப்படுத்தியுள்ள பஸ் கட்டண உயர்வினால் தினமும் ரூ.25 லட்சம் கூடுதல் வருமானம் கிடைக்கிறது.

I guess today's collection will give correct value on this extra collection due to hike!

rsubbu.mdu

November 21st, 2011, 07:08 PM

So much of discussions over the weekend, took some time to read as was out of pocket due to a trek..

Every newspaper and forumer are putting up statistics on "before and after charges". Yes there has been a 75% hike in Mofussil/Express category buses, so it will be that high only. We need to see few facts before arriving at a conclusion that this hike is good or bad. When last hike happened in 2001 the Diesel per litre price was Rs 18 and now it is Rs 45 (roughly). So there has been a 150% increase in fuel costs which account for 44% of operational cost of the TN transport corporations. Apart from that other maintainance inputs like spares and labour costs have also increased mutlifold in the last 10 years.

This multifold increase in cash outgo and no increase in cash inflow caused the Transport corps. to go into deep red. They piled up a cummulative loss of 6000cr+ loss. Could not pay staff salaries, SG released Rs 60cr every month to help them pay their staff salaries. Rs 1500cr outstanding the Transport corps have with PF, Gratuity etc. They are not able to pay compensation to accident victims and their buses are seized. In this state what else will a sensible government do.

Increase of fares is a inevitable move. If you take moffusil fares which have been hiked the most, have reached 42paise per km. But still we are 8 paise lower than the nearest one in S India, which is AP charging 50p for this service. (Pondy cannot be a good case for comparison) So very clearly the fares per km that have been set are not atrocious or illogical. The problem now is that these look way too big for the common man as a 10 year pending accumulated burden has been kept on him in a single go. Think of if the diesel price was kept at Rs 18 from 2001 till 2011 and overnight CG announces that they can no longer do anything and now they announce Diesel to be Rs 45. This is how we the people of TN are feeling which is a expected reaction of any human being seeing a 75% (just eg) hike in fares. Had this fare been put on us in small capsules over the last 10 years, no one would have complained.

If people of TN are up in arms against the govt for fixing fares which are atrocious, then MH people should have burned their buses by this time. Now few people might quote factors like our bus occupany is 100% on moffusil routes, ok, sounds fine but other states have say 80-90% and they are charging higer than us, so that point becomes invalid.

Now as the much needed fare hike is in place, we need the following to happen:

- Amalgamation of all transport corporations to form one corp. (MTC to be left alone)
-Transport corps should clearly work out the percentage mix of service offerings they will run namely Town/Mofussil/SD/UD/AC (BPR+1to1 can be new additions). All these services should run the way they are coined as.
- Better maintained Fleet - deluxe services without bed bugs, 3*2 services are not as bad but still require addition of comfort like Air suspension + 12m chassis.
- Reduction in running time, this can be acheived only by not forcing too high Kmpl targets
- Introduction of luxury services in MB/Volvo intercity segment which will rake in the much needed cash and pricing should be on par with Omni operators.

When all these things come in, crew behaviour will change automatically and then we can expect qualities like responsibility and ownership coming into them.

Few cons in the fare hike observed:

- Daily bus passes at 50 are way to high, will kill this scheme itself
- Volvo entry level charges are way to high, occupancy will decrease
- 1000 buses in MTC being upgraded to express is very bad move, when fares have been hiked, this move sounds illogical.
- Cbe SS buses becoming express..
and few others
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If still people feel that fares are high, then TN SG should consider transport as public service and allot 2000 cr every year (this need to increase every year based on inflation) to corps to help them run at low rates. Else such fares are un-avoidable.

---------------------------

gvijayan

November 21st, 2011, 09:50 PM

So much of discussions over the weekend, took some time to read as was out of pocket due to a trek..

Every newspaper and forumer are putting up statistics on "before and after charges". Yes there has been a 75% hike in Mofussil/Express category buses, so it will be that high only. We need to see few facts berfore arriving at a conclusion that this hike is good or bad. When last hike happened in 2001 the Diesel per litre price was Rs18 and now it is Rs45 (roughly). So there has been a 150% increase in fuel costs which account for 44% of operational cost of the TN transport corporations. Apart from that other maintainance inputs like spares and labour costs have also increased mutlifold in the last 10years.

This multifold increase in cash outgo and no increase in cash inflow caused the Transport corps. to go into deep read. They piled up a cummulative loss of 6000cr+ loss. Could not pay staff salaries, SG released Rs 60cr every month to help them pay their staff salaries. Rs 1500cr outstanding the Transport corps have with PF, Gratuity etc. They are not able to pay compensation to accident victims and their buses are seized. In this state what else will a sensible government do.

Increase of fares is a inevitable move. If you take moffusil fares which have been hiked the most, have reached 42paise per km. But still we are 8 paise lower than the nearest one in S India, which is AP charging 50p for this service. (Pondy cannot be a good case for comparison) So very clearly the fares per km that have been set are not atrocious or illogical. The problem now is that these look way too big for the common man as a 10year pending accumulated burden has been kept on him in a single go. Think of if the diesel price was kept at Rs 18 from 2001 till 2011 and overnight CG announces that they can no longer do anything and now they announce Diesel to be Rs45. This is how we the people of TN are feeling which is a expected reaction of any human being seeing a 75% (just eg) hike in fares. Had this fare been put on us in small capsules over the last 10 years, no one would have complained.

If people of TN are up in arms against the govt for fixing fares which are atrocious, then MH people should have burned their buses by this time. Now few people might quote factors like our bus occupany is 100% on moffusil routes, ok sounds fine but others are have say 80-90% and they are charging higer than us, so that point becomes invalid.

Now as the much needed fare hike is in place, we need the following to happen:

- Amalgamation of all transport corporations to form one corp. (MTC to be left alone)
-Transport corps should clearly work out the percentage of service offerings they will run namely Town/Mofussil/SD/UD/AC (BPR+1to1 can be new additions). All these services should run the way they are coined as.
- Better maintained Fleet - deluxe services without bed bugs, 3*2 services are not as bad but still require addition of comfort like Air suspension + 12m chassis.
- Reduction in running time, this can be acheived only by not forcing too high Kmpl targets
- Introduction of luxury services in MB/Volvo intercity segment which will rake in the much needed cash and pricing should be on par with Omni operators.

When all these things come in, crew behaviour will change automatically and then we can expect qualities like responsibility and ownersip coming inot them.

Few cons in the fare hike observed:

- Daily bus passes at 50 are way to high, will kill this scheme itself
- Volvo entry level charges are way to high, occupancy will decrease
- 1000 buses in MTC being upgraded to express is very bad move, when fares have been hiked, this move sounds illogical.
----------------

If still people feel that fares are high, then TN SG should consider transport as public service and allot 2000cr every year (this need to increase every year based on inflation) to corps to help them run at low rates. Else such fares are not un-avoidable.

---------------------------

Very well said, Subbu!

krishnaswamy

November 22nd, 2011, 02:29 AM

Watched Debate on Puthiya Thalaimurai TV on Bus fare hike.
1 representative from employee union, 1 former Corporation head, 1 neutral man..participated.
some of the important points.
1. TN employees are no 1 in India, on KMPL utilisation. All the panel accepted. TN drivers give 5.2 KMPL which is very good.
2. employee/Vehicle ratio is decreased from 7.5 to 6.2. Ideally it should be maintained at 10.
3. Corruption to the core. If 1 driver/conductor is about to be made permanent, that news is leaked to Politician and he demands 10k to 20k for permanent position.
4. Always employees belong to ruling party(minimum 2000 people) are not working and going on "On Duty". They are getting paid without work.
5. Central Govt should give 60% of fund for state transport corporation. (like In u.s, Federal govt is funding state transport)
6. TN did not get any benefits from CG on Road transport. They got only very small chunk of 4k crore for new buses in the last 30 yrs.
7. Buses are increased from 12k to 21k. Employee strength or depot facilities are not expanded to balance that.

Arul Murugan

November 22nd, 2011, 03:48 AM

^^

bus to emp ratio 10? KSRTC maintains 4.5.. I thought even present 6.2 is high for TNSTC.

1 bus - 2 driver and 2 conductor, total 42000 drivers and 42000 conductors (many buses can be made as conductor free, especially end to end passengers! Already ERO100 is very sucessful on this concept for more than 10years)

Remaining 0.5 will give another 10500 emp. Even if they allot every 5 bus one techincian and every 10bus one DME or BE, 4200 technician and 2100 engineers would be needed. Total - 6300, remaining 4200 will be higher oppicials, HR, IR, accounts etc.,

grand total 105000, present strength - 130200

ethuku bus to emp ratio 10??:nuts:

thillai_selvan

November 22nd, 2011, 03:59 AM

Even after hiking the bus fares the fate still continues.... :bash::bash:

http://epaper.dinakaran.com/pdf/2011/11/22/20111122a_002101005.jpg

Arul Murugan

November 22nd, 2011, 04:07 AM

Even after hiking the bus fares the fate still continues.... :bash::bash:

thambi, don't expect that.. how over night is enough for setting everything right for the damaged happened for past 6-7years?

It will take another 3-4years, by then congress gvt at center will hike diesel price 6-8 times and price will be 65 rupees from present 45 rupees. History will repeat and 2021 they will increase the fare again.:lol:

My only point is have least expectation on TNSTC/MTC/SETC on 1.) comfort 2.) punctuality 3.) speed 4.) luxury bus and 5.)service i.e crew response! :)

ignis_s

November 22nd, 2011, 04:21 AM

dhandapanik

November 22nd, 2011, 04:35 AM

I was traveling a couple of days back from Chennai to Bangalore. I came by Private bus and i was not getting sleep so was sitting in drivers cabin(as it was single driver bus). We had a long chat and i want to share a couple of information he shared (am not sure how far its true).

Here are they:
1. Travels like KPN have their own petrol bunks and approximately as its their own bunk the cost of 1 liter diesel is approximately 35 rs or slight more than that.

2. He also mentioned that tnstc and setc gets diesel at much lesser price(maaniam). Even if 10 passengers travel in a setc from madurai to chennai the bus would run in profit.

I dont know how far this is true? guys do you have any idea about this?

Ignis_S,
KPN Owning a petrol bunk and putting the fuel will help them in getting the additional revenue(In terms of commission in selling the fuel). And they cannot get a diesel at Rs.35(from original retail price of Rs.44 approx). Once i read a news item that Oil companies giving some reduction for TNSTCs but that could be Rs.1 or so.

Arul Murugan

November 22nd, 2011, 04:47 AM

Ignis_S,
KPN Owning a petrol bunk and putting the fuel will help them in getting the additional revenue(In terms of commission in selling the fuel). And they cannot get a diesel at Rs.35(from original retail price of Rs.44 approx). Once i read a news item that Oil companies giving some reduction for TNSTCs but that could be Rs.1 or so.

Dhandapani,

May be it could be like this! TNSTC may not pay 23.5% diesel sales tax to state government. This will make diesel 10.34 rupees cheaper form TNSTC. i.e it matches Ignis_S 35 rupees. This will be another loss for revenue department to an amout of 700crores per year. Again anyway it is a loss for TN gvt.

But I don't think revenue department will let TNSTC free of SG diesel sales tax.

dhandapanik

November 22nd, 2011, 04:51 AM

nambi83

November 22nd, 2011, 05:23 AM

Vicvin86

November 22nd, 2011, 05:46 AM

rEvPrcWCTcY

binaiks

November 22nd, 2011, 06:09 AM

1. Travels like KPN have their own petrol bunks and approximately as its their own bunk the cost of 1 liter diesel is approximately 35 rs or slight more than that.

This is impossible! The dealer would get only around 40-odd paise commission on sale of Diesel - so that would be the only discount he can make. For bringing the rate of diesel to Rs. 35, the dealer would have to evade paying sales tax.

Volvos will take in some 400~500 litres (the tank capacity is 600lts) everytime and hence they'll save about Rs. 200 on every filling.

May be it could be like this! TNSTC may not pay 23.5% diesel sales tax to state government. This will make diesel 10.34 rupees cheaper form TNSTC. i.e it matches Ignis_S 35 rupees. This will be another loss for revenue department to an amout of 700crores per year. Again anyway it is a loss for TN gvt.

There could be tax concessions for STUs, but they would not give full waiver - afterall, the state government revenues is mainly on Sales Tax and STUs are usually the biggest fuel consumers.

N. Nagarajan

November 22nd, 2011, 06:43 AM

Now TNSTC online booking they allowed to book for delux and ordinary buses to some places like trichy, thanjavur, Kumbakonam, Salem, Namakkal, Perambalur, Thuraiyur etc.

dhandapanik

November 22nd, 2011, 06:55 AM

18 omni buses fail fitness test, denied permit

CHENNAI: Last week, officials from the K K Nagar RTO rejected the fitness certificates of 18 Volvo buses belonging to KPN, a private omni bus operator, on the grounds that the emergency windows did not comply with the Motor Vehicles Act. They said that a recent Madras high court has asked them to be strict with emergency exits and speed governors.

"We realized that the windows in these buses could not be opened," said a RTO official.

The KPN management has accepted this and says that they have no choice but to comply with the order.

"We are trying to see if we can rework the body and then come back for inspections," said the manager of KPN, Periyanan.

Source : Times of India-Chennai (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/18-omni-buses-fail-fitness-test-denied-permit/articleshow/10823760.cms)

Arul Murugan

November 22nd, 2011, 07:03 AM

Now TNSTC online booking they allowed to book for delux and ordinary buses to some places like trichy, thanjavur, Kumbakonam, Salem, Namakkal, Perambalur, Thuraiyur etc.

Chennai-Salem - 54 ordinary buses
Chennai-Trichy - 16 ordinary buses
Chennai-Kumbakonam - 10 ordinary buses

Look now all 54 ordinary buses for Salem is for online reservation!! This is good move and it will spin good money in weekends and festival days.

I guess more ordinary buses are being added for Trichy.

binaiks

November 22nd, 2011, 07:05 AM

CHENNAI: Last week, officials from the K K Nagar RTO rejected the fitness certificates of 18 Volvo buses belonging to KPN, a private omni bus operator, on the grounds that the emergency windows did not comply with the Motor Vehicles Act. They said that a recent Madras high court has asked them to be strict with emergency exits and speed governors.

So this means KPN has 18 TN registered Volvos? I thought majority of their Volvos were KA registered - IIRC, all their Multi-Axles are KA registered.

"We realized that the windows in these buses could not be opened," said a RTO official.

Wow! This is really a gem! Openable windows in a Volvo? If the governments go with such stupid logics, we will surely go back a few years in terms of advancements in body building. Instead of insisting on openable windows, the government should:
Either,
1. Insist on full size Emergency Doors (like the ones on KaSRTC Volvos), or
2. Insist on having hammers placed near windows, which can be of use in time of emergency.

Arul Murugan

November 22nd, 2011, 07:09 AM

1. Insist on full size Emergency Doors (like the ones on KaSRTC Volvos), or
2. Insist on having hammers placed near windows, which can be of use in time of emergency.

exactly! this can be placed in 4-6 places apart from having emergency windows.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/Sollbruchstelle_ICE1.jpg/800px-Sollbruchstelle_ICE1.jpg

dhandapanik

November 22nd, 2011, 07:27 AM

Some of the region codes present in the ETicket.. This will be helpful for ppl who uses eticket and need to know which TNSTC is operating it..
Sample trip code: 1950CHEMAD.. 1950--> Time, CHE--> Chennai which is the starting place, MAD--> Madurai, Destination place.

SETC-- No specific region code.. Ex: 1950CHEMAD..

TNSTC-Madurai:
MM01->Madurai,
MM02->Nellai,
MM03-> NGL,
MM04->DGL,
MM05->VNR
1945CHETIRMM01U--> It is actually Chennai-Thirumangalam UD from Madurai region..

Note: Still Nellai divn uses Madurai code only.. i.e., MM.

TNSTC-Coimbatore
CC01 - CBE,
CC02 - Erode
1815CHEMTPCC01U --> Chennai-Mettupalayam UD from Coimbatore region.
Note: No Separate code came for tirupur yet.

TNSTC-Kumbakonam
KK01 - Tanjore,
KKO2-Trichy,
KK03 - Karaikudi
2330CHEKUMKK01U -- Chennai-Kumbakonam UD operated by Kumbakonam region..

TNSTC-Salem
DDO1 - Salem,
DD02 - Dharmapuri
1820CHESALDD01O - Chennai-Salem Ordinary service operated by Salem region.

Not sure why they have selected "DD" for salem. They should have selected "SS". :)

TNSTC-Villupuram
VV01 - Villupuram
VV02 - Vellore
VV03 - Kanchipuram
VV04 - Thiruvannamalai
VV05 - Cuddalore
VV06 - Thiruvallur
Ex:2300CHETRIVV03V Chennai-Trichy Volvo operated by Kanchi region.
-- I still have some confusion here. All Volvos are operated by Kanchi region. So VV03 is Kanchi and Villupuram is the main region, so it is assigned with 01, Vellore operates Chennai-Thirupathi, so i mentioned it as 02. I still have doubt in the last 3 regions.. Someone pls confirm this alone.

Hope this will be helpful for people who board with Etickets and searching for the bus whether it belongs to SETC/TNSTC. Will update the same with more details in TNSTC Blog soon..

Arul Murugan

November 22nd, 2011, 11:16 AM

dhandapanik

November 22nd, 2011, 11:26 AM

^^

May be DD for Dharmapuri :P

b/w most of the ordinary buses don't have seat numbers marked inside the bus except few like Sathy-Chennai and few of VPM division buses from Bengaluru SB to Kallakurichi, Thiruvanamalai etc.,.. then what is the point of having these buses in online reservation?:nuts:

I have seen TNSTC-Coimbatore ordinary buses having seat nos. Seat nos are pasted mainly for the buses which will be used as spls or for which they have reservations.

dr_thapalathy

November 22nd, 2011, 01:01 PM

Arul/Dhandapani,
What about ordinary buses for pondy? Are they available for reservation?
Also, the reservation on ordinary buses are available only on weekends or on all days?
They must try to add ordinary for reservation in all routes of TNSTC, which have everyday reservation / token system, apart from Chennai / Bangalore alone.

dhandapanik

November 22nd, 2011, 01:07 PM

Looks like TNSTC-Nellai started charging same fare for its UD and SD buses. They might have learnt this strategy from SETC. :bash:

1815TUTCHEMM02U ULTRA DELUXE
Dept.time : 18:15
StartingPoint : TUTI CORIN
Available Seats : 32
Fare (Approx)
Adult : Rs 425
Child : Rs NA

1700TICCHEMM02S DELUXE
Dept.time : 18:20
StartingPoint : TIRUCHENDUR
Available Seats : 33
Fare (Approx)
Adult : Rs 425
Child : Rs NA

binaiks

November 22nd, 2011, 01:55 PM

What about ordinary buses for pondy? Are they available for reservation?
Also, the reservation on ordinary buses are available only on weekends or on all days?

The Pondy-Salem ordinary buses are available for reservation. I guess there should be more ordy buses from Pondy.

The reservation is through out the week - that helps a lot in maintaining reliability of the services. Since reservation is given, the operating depots would be under pressure to ensure that they are run properly.

dhandapanik

November 22nd, 2011, 05:31 PM

A surprise visitor.. This could be ABT's 5th year anniversary trip to near by areas of Pollachi.. They mentioned that special trip will be operated for its passengers to Azhiyar dam, Monkey falls, Arivuthirukoil. Clicked this near MasaniAmman temple, Anaimalai near Pollachi.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-p3IvxmRXIv0/TsvF7Dckm2I/AAAAAAAAEmw/3Jm9wDTwInE/s576/DSC_0268.jpg

dhandapanik

November 22nd, 2011, 05:39 PM

R.No 12 of Pollachi-Odaiyakulam recently converted as "City Express" after the recent fare hike announced by TN Govt. These were operated as Normal bus before the hike. Minimum fare is Rs.5. For the same distance, Normal buses charged Rs.7 and this guy charged Rs.12. Just one sticker costing us Rs.5 more for each passenger. :bash: Usually TNSTC-Madurai did this "Improvement" in Madurai city. Now TNSTC-Coimbatore is following them.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6k0i2GAO_1Y/TsvGWo6lcAI/AAAAAAAAEmg/gu9VmrYx3M8/s800/DSC_0271.jpg

Old Pic without "Viraivu Perundhu(Express)" sticker.. It was charging the minimum fare as Rs.2 before fare hike.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-anbRLW_gVWs/TZtDZhMWDgI/AAAAAAAAHuk/s0vLnD3TV38/s640/IMG_1528.jpg

krishnaswamy

November 22nd, 2011, 08:56 PM

R.No 12 of Pollachi-Odaiyakulam recently converted as "City Express" after the recent fare hike announced by TN Govt. These were operated as Normal bus before the hike. Minimum fare is Rs.5. For the same distance, Normal buses charged Rs.7 and this guy charged Rs.12. Just one sticker costing us Rs.5 more for each passenger. :bash: Usually TNSTC-Madurai did this "Improvement" in Madurai city. Now TNSTC-Coimbatore is following them.

hm..
its better, we can have only 3 classes of city buses and 3 class of buses for long distances.
1. normal, Express(make all Deluxe buses as Express), AC.
2. Normal, SD(make UD as SD.. anyway fair is same), AC

Arul Murugan

November 23rd, 2011, 12:18 AM

Will RTC in TN come out from loss making with fare hike?

* 21,169 total fleet under RTC of TN,
3140 belongs to MTC,
6595 Town buses,
8007 Mofusil buses
2002 Spare buses
899 SETC buses

* 2500 emp gets salary without working irrespective of which government rules

* Total daily revenue collection before hike - 13.3 crores
MTC - 2.1 crores
TNSTC+SETC - 11.2crores
Monthly collection - 399 crores
Yearly collection - 4788 crores
Total expense - 5634 crores
Cummulative loss for 10years - 6143crores

* Expected total daily revenue collection after hike - 20crores,
Monthly collection - 620 crores,
Yearly collection - 7440 crores

* Out of 1.78lakhs employees, 30% are under the urge of retirement. Their pension will be extra burden for the RTC.
2000 new buses have been ordered by the gvt, so 9000 new emp will be recruited for the same. Their salary expense and new spare expense will be added to RTC financial burden. So 1500crores extra expense is projected for RTC.

பஸ் கட்டண உயர்வால் போக்குவரத்துக் கழகங்கள் மீளுமா?
தமிழக அரசு போக்குவரத்துக் கழகம், திவால் நிலைக்கு வந்து விட்ட நிலையில், உயர்த்தப்பட்டுள்ள பஸ் கட்டணத்தால், போக்குவரத்துக் கழகங்கள், நஷ்டத்தில் இருந்து மீள்வது அரசின் நடவடிக்கைகளை பொறுத்தே அமையும் என, உயர் அதிகாரிகள் தெரிவித்தனர்.

தமிழக அரசு போக்குவரத்துக் கழகத்தின், 11 கோட்டங்கள் மற்றும் விரைவு போக்குவரத்துக் கழகம் என, மொத்தம், 21 ஆயிரத்து, 169 பஸ்கள் இயக்கப்படுகிறது. இதில் சென்னையில் மட்டும், 3,140 பஸ்களும், பிற நகரங்களில், நகர பஸ்கள் என்ற வகையில், 6,595 பஸ்கள், மப்சல் பஸ்கள், 8,007, ஸ்பேர் பஸ்கள், 2,002, விரைவுப் போக்குவரத்துக் கழகத்தை பொறுத்தவரை, தமிழகத்துக்குள் மட்டும், 540 பஸ்களும், வெளிமாநிலங்களுக்கு செல்லும் பஸ்கள், 359, தற்போதைய நிலையில் செயல்பாட்டில் உள்ள, 581 பஸ்கள் இயக்கப்படுகின்றன.இவ்வளவு பஸ்கள் இயக்கப்பட்டாலும், பயணிகளுக்கு திருப்தி, மன நிறைவு என்பது கிடைப்பது இல்லை. ஆண்டுக்காண்டு புதிய பஸ்கள் அரசின் சார்பில் வழங்கப்பட்டாலும், அவற்றின் செயல்பாடு, இயக்கத்தில் மட்டும் திருப்தி இல்லை.

தேர்தலில் ஓட்டுக்காக பஸ் கட்டண உயர்வை, தி.மு.க.,அரசு மேற்கொள்ளவில்லை. இதன் விளைவு, தமிழகத்தில் உள்ள, 11 அரசு போக்குவரத்துக் கழக கோட்டங்களும், டீசல், ஊழியர் சம்பளம் வழங்க கடுமையாக தினறி வருகின்றன. ஊழியர்களுக்கு சம்பளம் வழங்குவதற்காக, மாதக்கடைசியில் அதிகாரிகள், கடன் கேட்டு வங்கி, வங்கியாக ஏறி இறங்குவது பரிதாபமாக உள்ளது. பொதுத்துறை நிறுவனம் என்ற பெயரில் செயல்பட்டு வரும் அரசு போக்குவரத்துக் கழகங்கள், அரசின் கட்டுப்பாட்டில் செயல்பட்டாலும், அவற்றை செம்மைப் படுத்தும் வகையில், மாநில அரசு நிதி உதவி வழங்க வில்லை.

பஸ் கட்டண உயர்வை, அரசு காலதாமதமாக மேற்கொண்ட போதிலும் போக்குவரத்துக் கழகங்கள், தங்களின் நஷ்டத்தை ஈடு கட்டுவதற்கே இன்னும் ஓராண்டு வரை ஆகும் என, அதிகாரிகள் கூறுகின்றனர். மத்திய அரசு இரண்டு ஆண்டுகளில் மட்டும், 11 முறை டீசல் விலையை அதிகரித்து விட்டது. போக்குவரத்துக் கழகங்கள் சார்பில் மேற் கொள்ளப்பட்டு வந்த டயர் ரீட்ரெடிங், பாடி பில்டிங், ஆர்.சி., புதுப்பிக்கும் பணிமனை ஆகியவற்றை, கடந்த அரசுகள் தங்களின் சுய லாபத்துக்காக தனியாருக்கு கான்ட்ராக்ட் கொடுத்து விட்டது. எந்த ஆட்சி வந்தாலும், 2,500 பேர் வரை, பணி செய்யாமல் சம்பளம் பெறுகின்றனர்.

வருவாய் குறைவு:சென்னை நகர பஸ்களின் தினசரி வருவாய் மட்டும், 2.10 கோடி, இதர போக்குவரத்துக் கழகங்கள் மூலம், 11.20 கோடி ரூபாய் என, மொத்தம், 13.30 கோடி ரூபாய் மட்டுமே வருவாயாக ஈட்டப்பட்டு வருகிறது. இந்த வகையில் மாதத்துக்கு, 399 கோடியாகவும், ஆண்டு சராசரி வருவாய் என்பது, 4,788 கோடி ரூபாயாக உள்ளது.ஆனால், டீசல், ஊழியர்கள் சம்பளம், உதிரிபாகங்கள், போனஸ், ஓய்வூதியர்களின் பென்சன், பிற செலவுகள் என்ற வகையில் ஆண்டுக்கு, 5,634 கோடி ரூபாய் என்ற வகையில் செலவுகளை சந்தித்து வருகிறது. இதில், 10 ஆண்டுகளில் ஏற்பட்ட நஷ்டம் என்ற வகையில், 6,143 கோடி ரூபாய் வரை ஏற்பட்டுள்ளது.

தற்போது உயர்த்தப்பட்டுள்ள பஸ் கட்டண உயர்வுக்கு பின், போக்குவரத்துக் கழகங்களின் தினசரி வருவாய், 20 கோடியாகவும், மாதம் சராசரியாக, 620 கோடியாகவும், ஆண்டுக்கு, 7,440 கோடியாகவும் உயரும் என எதிர்பார்க்கப்படுகிறது.இந்த வருவாய் அதிகரிப்பு ஏற்படும் நிலையில், தற்போது இயங்கும், 21 ஆயிரத்து, 162 பஸ்களை இயக்குவதில், 1.78 லட்சம் ஊழியர்களில், 30 சதவீதத்தினருக்கு மேல் ஓய்வு பெறும் நிலையில் உள்ளனர். அவர்கள் ஓய்வு பெறும் நிலையில், அரசு புதிதாக, 2,000 பஸ்களை வழங்க உள்ளதாக தெரிவித்துள்ளது. இந்த பஸ்களை இயக்க கூடுதலாக, 9,000 ஊழியர்கள் தேவைப்படுவர். அவர்களுக்கான சம்பளம், கூடுதல் உதிரிபாகங்கள் என்ற வகையில் எதிர்நோக்கும் செலவுகள் மட்டும், 1,500 கோடி ரூபாய் என திட்டமிடப்பட்டுள்ளது.அரசு போக்குவரத்துக்கழகங்கள், நஷ்டத்தில் இருந்து முழுவதுமாக மீண்டு, லாபத்தில் இயங்க வேண்டும் எனில், அனைத்து கட்டணத்துக்கான மானியங்களை, அரசு உடனடியாக போக்குவரத்து கழகங்களுக்கு வழங்க வேண்டும்

http://www.dinamalar.com/News_detail.asp?Id=354029

bonoslack7

November 23rd, 2011, 03:24 AM

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-tamilnadu/article2651657.ece

Even as commuters are yet to come to terms with the steep hike in bus fares, many of the Tamil Nadu State Transport Corporation (TNSTC) city bus services have been renamed ‘Express' services and fares hiked by 150 per cent.

Most of the buses which till November 17 were operated as ordinary services, now sport ‘Express' stickers on the front windscreen. Already, the public are finding it difficult to cope up with the increase in minimum fare from Rs 2 to Rs 5. Now, the increase in fare for ‘Express' services will be 150 per cent of the normal fare. Such a practice to earn quick revenue for the transport corporations will only be counter-productive, says K. Kathirmathiyon, Secretary of Coimbatore Consumer Cause (CCC).

Enquiries with the Transport Department reveal that the TNSTC had not obtained any amendment to the permit or sought revision of fare table. For changing a service from ‘Ordinary' to ‘Express', Limited Stop Service or Point to Point, be it private or TNSTC, authorities have to obtain permit and get the fare table revised. In this case, the officials have clearly pointed out that no such change in permit or revision in fare table was given to the TNSTC. Hence, it amounts to not only fleecing of the public but also violation of rules by a quasi government agency i.e., TNSTC.

These ‘Express' services continue to be operated as normal services, with the buses not going through any change in the number of stops or in terms of speed. Some buses have been named ‘LSS' and an additional fare of Re 1 collected despite the fact that the Government approved a collection of only 50 paise. The LSS buses stop at all the bus stops as in the case of ordinary buses. The TNSTC claim that LSS buses would halt at stops where public make a request, say Mr.Kathirmathiyon.

The running crew in most of these ‘Express' bus services admit they stop at all bus stops as done earlier and it was only the fare that differs now. In the event of a service being upgraded, the Transport Department should have given approval for the list of bus stops for stoppages.

Due to these legal formalities, not even a single private operator is indulging in such unfair practice of collecting fares. Just because TNSTC is a State-owned PSU, its irregularities are not questioned by the enforcing authorities, according to Mr. Kathirmathiyon.

Even if the fares are approved by Regional Transport Authority (RTA), as per the GO, only 150 per cent of ordinary fare should be collected for ‘Express' service i.e. Rs.4.50 but Rs.5.00 is being collected. Similarly even if approved by the RTA, 50 paise alone should be collected but TNSTC collects Re.1.00 along with the new increased fare. Even in moffusil routes, excess fare is being collected.

On the Coimbatore – Ooty the fare for plains (42 paise) should be collected upto Kallar (where Ghat road begins) but CCC complains that from Mettuplayam itself TNSTC charges ghat road fare at the rate of 47 paise for the 10 km road stretch in the plains.

Arul Murugan

November 23rd, 2011, 04:48 AM

Some cartoons from tamil dailies and weeklies

Dinamani ஏறிய போதும் இறங்கிய போதும்... போதும் ...போதும்..!

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e-Vikatan

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Junior Vikatan

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Arul Murugan

November 23rd, 2011, 04:55 AM

Ju V article on bus transport system

Mostly same points as mentioned in Dinamalar

போக்குவரத்து துறை லாபம் அடையுமா?

''இப்போது கிடைத்திருப்பது ஆக்ஸிஜன் மட்டும்தான்!''

''கடன் சுமையால் மூழ்கிக்கொண்டு இருக்கும் போக்குவரத்துக் கழகங்களைக் காப்பாற்றவே பேருந்துக் கட்டணத்தை உயர்த்தி இருக்கிறேன்'' என்கிறார் முதல்வர். ஆனால், ''கட்டண உயர்வு, ஆபத்தில் இருக்கும் போக்குவரத்துக் கழகங்களுக்கு ஆக்ஸிஜன் கொடுக்கும் முதலுதவி சிகிச்சைதான். போக்குவரத்துக் கழகங்களை இந்த நடவடிக்கையால் எல்லாம் காப்பாற்ற முடியாது'' என்று திகில் கிளப்புகிறார்கள் சி.ஐ.டி.யு. தொழிற்சங்கத்தினர்!

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''பேருந்துக் கட்டணத்தை உயர்த்த வேண்டும், அல்லது போக்குவரத்துக் கழகங்களை அரசே ஏற்று நடத்த வேண்டும். இல்லாவிட்டால், அவை திவாலாகிவிடும்'' - கடந்த 10 மாதங்களுக்கு முன்பே, சி.ஐ.டி.யு. தொழிற்சங்கத்தினர் ஜூ.வி. மூலமாக இப்படி எச்சரிக்கை மணி அடித்தனர். அவர்களே இப்போது நம்மைத் தொடர்புகொண்டு பேசினர்.

''எட்டுக் கோட்டங்கள், 23 மண்டலங்கள், சுமார் 206 டெப்போக்களைக்கொண்ட தமிழ்நாடு அரசுப் போக்குவரத்துக் கழகங்கள் தினமும் சுமார் 20 ஆயிரம் பேருந்துகளை இயக்குகின்றன. இதன் மூலம் தினமும் சுமார் 2 கோடி பேருக்கு சேவை அளித்து நாள் ஒன்றுக்கு சுமார் 22 கோடியை வருவாய் ஈட்டுகிறது. இதற்கு முன் 2001-ம் ஆண்டு அ.தி.மு.க. ஆட்சியில்தான் கடைசியாக பஸ் கட்டணம் உயர்த்தப்பட்டது. கடந்த 10 வருடங்களில் இதுவரை எத்தனையோ முறை டீசல் விலை உயர்த்தப்பட்டபோதும், பேருந்துக் கட்டணம் உயர்த்தப்படவில்லை. லிட்டருக்கு ஒரு ரூபாய் டீசல் விலை உயர்ந்தாலே, போக்குவரத்துக் கழகங்களுக்கு தினமும் 20 லட்சம் நஷ்டம் ஏற்படும். அப்படியானால், 10 வருடங்களில் இழப்பு எவ்வளவு இருக்கும் என்பதை நீங்களே ஊகித்துக்கொள்ளுங்கள்.

போக்குவரத்துக் கழகங்கள் எவ்வளவுதான் நஷ்டத்தைச் சந்தித்தாலும், அரசுக்கு சேர வேண்டிய வரிகளை மட்டும் பைசா பாக்கி இல்லாமல் வசூலித்துவிடுகிறார்கள். ஆனால், அரசிடம் இருந்து போக்குவரத்துக் கழகங்களுக்கு வரவேண்டிய கட்டணங்கள் மட்டும் ஒழுங்காக வரவில்லை. இலவச பஸ் பாஸ் திட்டங்களின் மூலமாக அரசிடம் இருந்து ஆண்டுக்கு சுமார்

http://www.vikatan.com/jv/2011/11/zdfjmz/images/p17.jpg

240 கோடி வரவேண்டும். கடந்த தி.மு.க. ஆட்சியில் ஆண்டுக்கு 150 கோடி மட்டுமே கொடுத்தார்கள். டீசல் சப்ளை செய்ததற்காக இந்தியன் ஆயில் கார்ப்பரேஷனுக்கு சுமார் 15 கோடி வரை கடன். ஊழியர்களுக்கு சம்பளம் கொடுக்க போக்குவரத்துக் கழகங்களுக்குச் சொந்தமான சொத்துக்களில் பெரும் பகுதியை வங்கிகளில் அடமானம் வைத்திருக்கிறார்கள். 206 டெப்போக்களுமே இப்போது அடமானத்தில்தான் இருக்கின்றன. மேற்கொண்டும் சிக்கலைச் சமாளிக்க சில இடங்களில் பஸ் ரூட்களையும் அடமானம்வைத்த அவலங்களும் நடந்திருக்கிறது.

http://www.vikatan.com/jv/2011/11/zdfjmz/images/p17a.jpg

இந்தக் கடன்களுக்கான வட்டியையே கட்ட முடியாமல் திண்டாடுகிறார்கள். சில இடங்களில் இந்த வட்டியைக் கட்டுவதற்கு, புதிதாய் கடன் வாங்குகிறார்கள். இரண்டு ஆண்டுகளாக போக்குவரத்துக் கழக ஊழியர்களின் பி.எஃப். பணத்தை பி.எஃப். அலுவலகத்தில் செலுத்தாமல், அதையும் வேறு எதற்கோ பயன்படுத்தினார்கள். கடந்த ஆறு மாதங்களாக, தொழிலாளர்களின் சம்பளத்தில் பிடிக்கப்பட்ட இன்ஷூரன்ஸ் பிரிமியத்தையும் கட்டாமல் செலவழித்துவிட்டனர். சில மாதங்களாக தொழிலாளர்களின் பென்ஷனுக்காகப் பிடிக்கப்பட்ட பணமும் பென்ஷன் டிரஸ்ட்டுக்கு போய் சேரவில்லையாம். நஷ்டஈடு வழக்குகளில் கோர்ட்டால் ஜப்தி செய்யப்பட்ட பேருந்துகளை மீட்பதற்கே சுமார் 100 கோடி தேவைப்படும்'' என்று அடுக்கியவர்கள் தொடர்ந்து,

''பேருந்துக் கட்டணங்களை உயர்த்தாமல் இருந்திருந்தால், இன்னும் ஆறே மாதங்களில் உதிரிப் பாகங்கள் வாங்கக்கூட பணம் இல்லாமல் ஆங்காங்கே பேருந்துகள் பிரேக்டவுன் ஆகி நின்றிருக்கும். தொழிலாளிக்கு சம்பளம் கொடுக்க முடியாத நிலை வந்து, போராட்டங்கள் வெடித்திருக்கும். ஆனால், இந்தக் கட்டண உயர்வும் போக்குவரத்துக் கழகங்களை ஆபத்தில் இருந்து முழுமையாகக் காப்பாற்றாது. இப்போது 70 சதவிகிதம் வரை கட்டண உயர்வு அமல்படுத்தி இருந்தாலும், வருமானம் என்னவோ 50 சதவிகிதம்தான் கூடி இருக்கிறது. இதைவைத்து அத்தியாவசியத் தேவைகளை ஓரளவுக்கு சமாளிக்கலாமே தவிர, 6,150 கோடி கடன் சுமையைக் குறைக்கவோ, அதற்காக வட்டி கட்டவோ முடியாது. போக்குவரத்துக் கட்டணங்களை இன்னும் ஒரு மடங்கு கூட்டினால், பிரச்னையை ஓரளவுக்கு சமாளிக்கலாம். ஆனால், அது மக்களை வெகுவாகப் பாதிக்கும். எனவே இந்தக் கடனை அரசே வழங்கிவிட்டு, போக்குவரத்துக் கழகங்களை அரசுடமையாக்க வேண்டும். இல்லாவிட்டால், போக்குவரத்துக் கழகங்களை எந்தக் காலத்திலும் காப்பாற்றவே முடியாது'' என்று அழுத்தமாக சொன்னார்கள்.

போக்குவரத்துத் துறை அமைச்சர் செந்தில் பாலாஜியிடம் 21-ம் தேதி காலையில் இந்தப் பிரச்னையை சொல்லி விளக்கம் கேட்டோம். ''நான் கல்வி அமைச்சரை சந்திக்க வந்திருக்கிறேன்... இன்னும் ஒரு மணி நேரத்தில் நானே உங்களைத் தொடர்புகொள்கிறேன்'' என்றவர், அதன் பிறகு நம்மைத் தொடர்புகொள்ளவே இல்லை. நாம் அழைத்ததற்கும் ரெஸ்பான்ஸ் இல்லை.

தி.மு.க. ஆட்சியில் போக்குவரத்துத் துறை அமைச்சராக இருந்த கே.என்.நேரு, ''பேருந்து கட்டணத்தை உயர்த்தாமலேயே போக்குவரத்துக் கழகங்கள் காப்பாற்றப்படும்'' என்றார். ஆனால், ''திவாலாகும் நிலையில் இருந்து போக்குவரத்துக் கழகங்களை காப்பாற்றவே பேருந்து கட்டணங்களை உயர்த்தினேன்'' என்கிறார் முதலமைச்சர் ஜெயலலிதா. விடிவு பிறக்கிறதா என்று பொறுத்திருந்து பார்ப்போம்!

- குள.சண்முகசுந்தரம்

pritm

November 23rd, 2011, 05:35 AM

dhandapanik

November 23rd, 2011, 06:16 AM

They are taking to Mahabalipuram in chennai.
All based on Kulukkal.

Yes. I have posted the banner which was there in their website here. It would be good enjoyment when locals(Mainly CBE/Pollachi ppl) visit the near by areas with these good AC buses... :)

Arul Murugan

November 23rd, 2011, 07:19 AM

Looks they have started to mention the corporation name in the e-ticketing list

This is new one.. snap shot of today

http://i41.************/2a62dxd.jpg

This is snap shot of last week

http://i42.************/20qdzq0.jpg

Arul Murugan

November 23rd, 2011, 07:36 AM

^^

I hope in coming months they provide

1. Perungalattur & Poonamallae boarding for Chennai
2. Silk board boarding for Bengaluru.

This will be much helpful for the south Chennai passengers and also for many who were using only Omni buses. They may switch to SETC/TNSTC buses with this important facility. In few omni buses even 50-60% crowd board only at Perungallathur.

rsubbu.mdu

November 23rd, 2011, 07:43 AM

with so much having being done, TN-STC's should tie with a Telecom service provider and a CUG connection for the entire fleet of intercity buses. Overnight long distance crews should be allowed to call to ascertain the status of pax in case they dont turn up on time....

AP has done it ...Mobile phones for 1.22 lakh RTC employees (http://expressbuzz.com/cities/hyderabad/mobile-phones-for-122-lakh-rtc-employees/333776.html)

ignis_s

November 23rd, 2011, 07:46 AM

Hi Guys, do you have any idea about fastest SETC between bangalore and chennai?

binaiks

November 23rd, 2011, 07:52 AM

2. Silk board boarding for Bengaluru.

Instead of Silk Board, I am of the opinion that Madiwala/Bommanahalli should be allowed. For Silk Board pick up, the bus has to take a left turn under the flyover then go almost upto HSR Layout to take a U-Turn and then come back to Silkboard - that is unwanted fuel consumption. (TNSTC buses already do this - but they should find some way to avoid this).

Arul Murugan

November 23rd, 2011, 07:56 AM

Arul Murugan

November 23rd, 2011, 08:00 AM

Instead of Silk Board, I am of the opinion that Madiwala/Bommanahalli should be allowed. For Silk Board pick up, the bus has to take a left turn under the flyover then go almost upto HSR Layout to take a U-Turn and then come back to Silkboard - that is unwanted fuel consumption. (TNSTC buses already do this - but they should find some way to avoid this).

If I am correct TNSTC 3*2 buses coming from Mysore road SBS joins the NH7 at Silk board, so I thought having a common pick up point for buses from Shanthi Nagar BS and Mysore road SBS would be useful for both the bus stand users.

In coming days few 3*2 express night buses from Mysore road SBS to Neyveli, Kallakurichi, Thiruvanamalai, Villupuram, Cuddalore, Salem may also find place in online reservation.

ignis_s

November 23rd, 2011, 08:01 AM

dhandapanik

November 23rd, 2011, 08:02 AM

KSRaj/Dhandapani/Drthalapathy or anyone,

Please clear this doubt!

I remember Villupuram division got hand full of UD buses in 2007-2008 along with other divisions. They will running their UDs primarily on Chennai-Trichy, Chennai-Salem, Chennai-Pondy routes apart from Neyveli-Nagercoil and many connection from Cuddalore/Villupuram dt to South...

For past 1 year, I didn't spot any Villupuram division UD buses running on Chennai-Trichy or Chennai-Salem sector, I thought may be only I didn;t get chance to spot those VPM UDs... but even in e-ticking Villupuram division ordinary buses are being listed on Chennai-Salem and Chennai-Trichy sector, but UD buses are not there.

I doubt whether UD buses were handed over to SETC by VPM division and inturn they might have received the MTC Volvos!

Arul,
Below is the UD bus which is being operated by VPM in Chennai-Madurai route. I've seen this bus many a times in MIBT and spotted this once in CMBT also.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-PhANlvN8eyk/TjLTe7Q1qAI/AAAAAAAAB4s/OGxfuaEiA6E/s640/DSC06277.jpg

When i was there in trichy couple of weeks back, i have seen a UD running in Trichy-Chennai route. They have also put up their timings in Trichy, Central BS. Also i have spotted few UDs of VPM in CMBT.. Some TN32s were transferred to SETC.

One route which i have seen already.. Hosur-Chennai UD operated by Vellore region..

2200CHEHOSVV02U ULTRA DELUXE IS
Dept.time : 22:00
StartingPoint : CHENNAI
Available Seats : 32
Fare (Approx)
Adult : Rs 226
Child : Rs NA

Arul Murugan

November 23rd, 2011, 08:31 AM

You can see atleast 5 to 6 UDs (VPM division) UD's handed over to SETC now running between bangalore to chennai route.

so few UDs got transferred to SETC? thanks

Arul,
Below is the UD bus which is being operated by VPM in Chennai-Madurai route. I've seen this bus many a times in MIBT and spotted this once in CMBT also.

When i was there in trichy couple of weeks back, i have seen a UD running in Trichy-Chennai route. They have also put up their timings in Trichy, Central BS. Also i have spotted few UDs of VPM in CMBT.. Some TN32s were transferred to SETC.

thanks dhandapani,

yes timing is still there in CMBT and I have seen in Salem too. But earlier they had UD buses equal to TNSTC-SLM/KMU on these two sectors. I guess it has been drastically reduced now. And their UD buses are not in online reservation on these two sectors.

binaiks

November 23rd, 2011, 08:32 AM

If I am correct TNSTC 3*2 buses coming from Mysore road SBS joins the NH7 at Silk board, so I thought having a common pick up point for buses from Shanthi Nagar BS and Mysore road SBS would be useful for both the bus stand users.

Buses coming from Satellite and Shantinagar join together either near Lalbagh or near Brand Factory. Both the buses run via Madivala - so a pick-up point at Madivala is better than running a few extra kms to pickup a handful of reserved Pax from Silk Board.

http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/4029/11859856.th.jpg (http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/4029/11859856.jpg)

Check the map above.. on the left is the route from Silk Board to MSBS, and on the right is the route from Silk Board to Shantinagar.

In coming days few 3*2 express night buses from Mysore road SBS to Neyveli, Kallakurichi, Thiruvanamalai, Villupuram, Cuddalore, Salem may also find place in online reservation.

Even the dumbest KeSRTC is allowing passengers to search all their services to Bangalore by selecting "Bangalore" as origin or destination, but TNSTC wants the passenger to select between "Bangalore" and "Bangalore Satellite". They should merge both and passengers should be able to search between "Bangalore" and "Chennai" instead of "Bangalore" and "Chennai CMBT" or "Bangalore Satellite" and "Chennai CMBT".

Arul Murugan

November 23rd, 2011, 08:44 AM

^^

thanks, that clears my doubt. Last year when I was in Bengaluru near BTM layout I saw many to and fro 3*2 TNSTC buses taking the ORR. If both buses joins take common route at Madiwala, then as you said Madiwala would be best location for boarding.:)

Yes Bangalore, Bangalore SBS, CMBT, Chennai Central, Trichy BHEL, Tirunelveli NBS needs to be clubbed together.

Even in type of service drop down box only three should be there

1. Ordinary
2. Ultra delux (UD, Delux, Semi Delux can be covered in this)
3. AC (AC and Volvo AC)

And in time line

1. Day buses or Before 12:00PM
2. Night buses or After 12:00PM

The rtc oppicers would be dumb there, but atleast the service provider could make it user friendly for searches.

binaiks

November 23rd, 2011, 09:33 AM

thanks, that clears my doubt. Last year when I was in Bengaluru near BTM layout I saw many to and fro 3*2 TNSTC buses taking the ORR. If both buses joins take common route at Madiwala, then as you said Madiwala would be best location for boarding.:)

The reason why you say normal TNSTC buses on the ORR is because they have a pickup point at Silk Board. The buses coming from Madiwala side will turn towards HSR Layout on the ORR, go till there, take a U-turn and come back to Silk Board.

Vehicles are not allowed to proceed "straight" below a flyover. I know it is confusing.

rsubbu.mdu

November 23rd, 2011, 09:37 AM

The reason why you say normal TNSTC buses on the ORR is because they have a pickup point at Silk Board. The buses coming from Madiwala side will turn towards HSR Layout on the ORR, go till there, take a U-turn and come back to Silk Board.

Vehicles are not allowed to proceed "straight" below a flyover. I know it is confusing.

Binai,

He is referring to the BTM side of the ORR, earlier one or two buses used to take that route very rarely. He might have seen them quiet some time back. Now its only the St.Johns, HSR, Silk board, NH7 route...its painful to cross ORR in mad IT stream traffic.

rsubbu.mdu

November 23rd, 2011, 09:57 AM

One route which i have seen already.. Hosur-Chennai UD operated by Vellore region..

2200CHEHOSVV02U ULTRA DELUXE IS
Dept.time : 22:00
StartingPoint : CHENNAI
Available Seats : 32
Fare (Approx)
Adult : Rs 226
Child : Rs NA

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-CXPZ6TrncUc/Tiqocgtly4I/AAAAAAAAJKc/X-iis_VF4zA/s576/DSC01826.JPG

binaiks

November 23rd, 2011, 10:46 AM

He is referring to the BTM side of the ORR, earlier one or two buses used to take that route very rarely. He might have seen them quiet some time back.

You are right. A handful of buses used to take the Dairy Circle-Jayadeva-BTM-Silk board route. That route is no better than the St. John's route though.

Now the buses go below the Silk Board flyover, run towards HSR Layout, take a U-Turn (near BMTC Depot-25), and come to Silk Board Jn.

Sree Sree

November 23rd, 2011, 12:30 PM

WHETHER SPK TRAVELS IS RUNNING NOW? I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY BUS IN KOYAMBED, ALSO THERE IS NO BOOKING IN THE WEBSITE.

ignis_s

November 23rd, 2011, 12:43 PM

I have seen the NON AC bus of SPK in Tirunelveli around 20 days back. but checked unable to book ticket from their website http://www.spktravels.com/

Sathyan

November 23rd, 2011, 01:13 PM

Now the buses go below the Silk Board flyover, run towards HSR Layout, take a U-Turn (near BMTC Depot-25), and come to Silk Board Jn.

Sir no U-Turn....
TNSTC's 3*2 buses from Bangalore follow mainly 2 routes....... 1) St Johns road from there straight to HSR layout and then Madiwala.
2) St Johns road then take right Madiwala market.....(some buses take madiwala flyover and then take service road... some buses take service road from Madiwala itself)
And SETC's Highway Rider & BPR will not take St Johns road.......
after Koramangala Signal straight towards Madiwala via Madiwala Ayyappa temple under bridge road then take Madiwala flyover and Electronic city flyover........

pritm

November 23rd, 2011, 04:51 PM

During Deepavali one of SPK was parked with Chennai Silks poster in CMBT. Was also parked in the interior location, After which I have no clue.

Mr.Nellai

November 24th, 2011, 01:43 AM

It was said that there is a 40% increase in bus fares but in reality it is increased upto 200%

For ex: Bus fare from puzhal-ambattur is 5 Rs before the hike, now it is 15 Rs which is 200% increase in fare

The bus fare for long distance routes is shocking

Conductors and drivers were given 2.65% of the total collection amount (what for they are giving this :ohno: ) as allowance, it is now reduced to 1.65%

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/6116/2471631.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/832/2471631.jpg/)

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rsubbu.mdu

November 24th, 2011, 04:05 AM

Drivers by night, nomads by day
23 Nov 2011 , TheNewIE (http://expressbuzz.com/cities/chennai/drivers-by-night-nomads-by-day/335973.html)

CHENNAI: For Kumaresan, one of the drivers with a well-known omni bus service at the Chennai Contract Carriage Bus Terminus (CCCBT), Koyambedu, the day starts with a frantic search for a retiring space at the terminus after driving for more than 12 hours.

Like Kumaresan, there are more than 500 drivers and cleaners, who are deprived of the comforts offered to government drivers by the State Express Transport Corporation at the Chennai Mofussil Bus Terminus (CMBT).

With no retiring facilities available for them, such drivers and cleaners lead a nomadic life at the terminus by sleeping on pavements till evening.

These drivers have to face innumerable hardships everyday from morning till the time they don their white uniforms and slip into the driver’s seat.

“For us, the run starts in the morning. With no retiring facilities available at the terminus, barring a few drivers, who prefer to sleep inside the buses, most of us sleep on pavements and also at some of the shops lying vacant for years,” Kannan, a 50-year-old driver and president of the drivers’ association inside the terminus, told City Express.

According to drivers, this sleep deprivation coupled with other untold hardships at the terminus, could adversely impact their driving capabilities on the road.

“Without optimal rest, most of the drivers are forced to begin driving and no one knows what will happen,” Kannan said.

After a short ‘pavement nap’, drivers then assemble in the open, near the CCCBT’s poorly maintained two-wheeler parking bay, to bathe.

“With the only available bathing facility inside the terminus in a state of repair for years, drivers are forced to bathe in the open,” Kannan added. “We are not seeking facilities on par with the SETC’s drivers. Provide us with at least the minimum facilities,” he appealed to the CMDA, which maintains the terminus. Even a cursory glance at the table given above tells the grim story of a mounting number of road accidents caused, possibly, by sleep deprivation. Will the authorities wake up?

dr_thapalathy

November 24th, 2011, 04:44 AM

dhandapanik

November 24th, 2011, 05:45 AM

I think situations will get back to normal after a month or two. Though the occupancy has decreased a bit after the fare hike, it will show a increasing trend. Also, the train fare increase will also add to it.

While mentioning the reasons for this much fare hike, i think no one mentioned National Highway Toll Charges. They also started adding the burden to the TNSTCs and SETC from 2009, resulting in increased loss.

Guys, have anyone of you travelled in any TNSTC bus after the fare hike? Are you able to see changes in terms of speed and travel time?

After Toll charges came in, TNSTC buses operating in the route which i regularly use has increased the fare.

When i was talking to my regular bus conductor, he said they didnt reduce the KMPL in their depot. And they were using regular route in Palani-madurai route with Express charge. Conductor and driver asked the use the bus in bye pass route meaning there will be only one stop(@Oddanchatram) in Palani-Madurai route. May be when i use next time, i may see a change. He mentioned that they may relax KMPL target, but it may not be for all buses because of safety concerns and to avoid rash driving. They can reduce it to 5KMPL for all buses and for long distance buses, it can be reduced further more.

Arul Murugan

November 24th, 2011, 07:55 AM

Inspite of fare hike and poor buses, looks still few sectors getting filled 2-3 days before.

From Madurai every bus to Chennai in online reservation is full on 27th! Hope MDU division include all of their ordinary buses too in online reservation.

http://i41.************/2ihuv4w.jpg

AC is also full

http://i41.************/68hiko.jpg

Next is from Trichy and also from Salem... UD are getting full for every weekend. But very less bookers for ordinary buses in online!

* TNSTC should give press release for making ordinary buses reservation available on online

* Advertisement in their own site

* Posters in these ordinaru buses

* Also reservation counters in bus stand should inform people about the availability of ordinary buses for online reservation.

http://i42.************/2a8rnr7.jpg
http://i39.************/qyiko7.jpg

pritm

November 24th, 2011, 10:13 AM

Drivers by night, nomads by day
23 Nov 2011 , TheNewIE (http://expressbuzz.com/cities/chennai/drivers-by-night-nomads-by-day/335973.html)

Here Govt has limited role to play.
The Tamil nadu omni bus owners Association which is functioning inside the terminus is least bothered about the menace if the drivers are not given proper retiring facility. They cant blame Govt for everything. They operate as per their wish. They dont do any basic maintenane, in fact spoiling the complete bus stand. KPN brings a water tanker and parks it back side. All their drivers use that to bath/wash clothes.
Few north indian drivers cook inside the bus. Many sleep inside(read as under slung) the bus.
I can blame only these guys and not Govt. They should be fortunate enough to have such a facility unlike other cities.

Arul Murugan

November 24th, 2011, 10:24 AM

^^

what about setc&tnstc crew? even they do the same for which gvt is 100% responsible.

rsubbu.mdu

November 24th, 2011, 11:23 AM

SETC + TNSTC crew at CMBT...

http://www.hindu.com/2011/04/24/images/2011042451530801.jpg

Bus crew resent inadequate resting facilities at CMBT - Link to news (http://www.hindu.com/2011/04/24/stories/2011042451530800.htm)
- a news item published in the "The Hindu" in Apr2011. Few excerpts from the news item:

" To meet the vacation travel demands, there are more buses plying this month, especially during the weekends. Nearly 300 drivers come to take rest here during early mornings, but due to lack of space and the stuffiness in the rooms, many prefer to sleep inside the buses,” says Raja Venkatesan, a driver from Cuddalore. Many of them say this lack of sleep leads to excessive fatigue during driving."

“We have to buy drinking water every day, and the water supply in the four toilets is also very irregular,” says Rajamani.S., who drives thrice a week to Chennai from Neyveli, adding that sleeping in the buses seems a better option despite the hordes of mosquitoes that plague them continuously."

A sore point among them is the fact that their colleagues in other divisions and those from Andhra Pradesh and Karnataka have been offered much better facilities including table fans, beds and helpers.

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I have seen lot of helpers cleaning Airavath buses in CMBT. APSRTC, the lesser said it is better.

rsubbu.mdu

November 24th, 2011, 11:30 AM

Here Govt has limited role to play.
The Tamil nadu omni bus owners Association which is functioning inside the terminus is least bothered about the menace if the drivers are not given proper retiring facility. They cant blame Govt for everything. They operate as per their wish. They dont do any basic maintenane, in fact spoiling the complete bus stand. KPN brings a water tanker and parks it back side. All their drivers use that to bath/wash clothes.
Few north indian drivers cook inside the bus. Many sleep inside(read as under slung) the bus.
I can blame only these guys and not Govt. They should be fortunate enough to have such a facility unlike other cities.

Hi Pritm,

CMDA maintains the bus terminus for Omni buses and the revenue from shops in the facility should be going to it. Is that not sufficient for them to maintain the facility? I defenitely accept the point that Omni bus owners association can also pitch in ...but first is the lack of action from CMDA and then comes lack of interest shown by the association.

dhandapanik

November 24th, 2011, 12:02 PM

binaiks

November 24th, 2011, 03:16 PM

* TNSTC should give press release for making ordinary buses reservation available on online

* Advertisement in their own site

* Posters in these ordinaru buses

* Also reservation counters in bus stand should inform people about the availability of ordinary buses for online reservation.

A simple step is all that is required. Add an "Any" option in the classes. So a passenger can search for buses between, say for example, Chennai and Salem, of any class. So, when they see Ordinary buses listed in their required time slot, people would experiment with it!

dr_thapalathy

November 24th, 2011, 03:44 PM

Our State Transport Department must start looking for revenues from other modes also, instead of just ticket collection from buses:

1.They have a website. They can have advertisements and they can promote any new routes and additional thing they do. The website needs to be more user-friendly for searching facilities.

2. They do own Highway motels. They must be upgraded and all the drivers must be instructed to stop there, so that it will add up to the revenue. They need to own a Highway motel in all busy sectors.

The above are some measures to generate regular revenue within / after 6 months.
Then, TNSTC, SETC and MTC must stop all the backdoor tactics.

dhandapanik

November 24th, 2011, 03:45 PM

A simple step is all that is required. Add an "Any" option in the classes. So a passenger can search for buses between, say for example, Chennai and Salem, of any class. So, when they see Ordinary buses listed in their required time slot, people would experiment with it!

+1. I too got irritated in selecting "Type" in all these Radiant Info Sites.

I remember seeing "ANY" option in KSRTC site once. But it was stopped and it started listing services types separately. Same "Radiant Info" vendor is used by TNSTC also. Saw this "Any" option in the KSRTC counter of madurai once. Mobile site of TNSTC and KSRTC site displays all type of buses. Better they can remove this "Service class" option for main eticketing site also.

dr_thapalathy

November 24th, 2011, 03:48 PM

+1. I too got irritated in selecting "Type" in all these Radiant Info Sites.

I remember seeing "ANY" option in KSRTC site once. But it was stopped and it started listing services types separately. Same "Radiant Info" vendor is used by TNSTC also. Saw this "Any" option in the KSRTC counter of madurai once. Mobile site of TNSTC and KSRTC site displays all type of buses. Better they can remove this "Service class" option for main eticketing site also.

Instead of giving time-wise split-up of the buses, which is really irritating, they can display all the buses in a single go the choice of filtering by class of service and time, can be made optional.

binaiks

November 24th, 2011, 05:02 PM

I remember seeing "ANY" option in KSRTC site once. But it was stopped and it started listing services types separately. Same "Radiant Info" vendor is used by TNSTC also. Saw this "Any" option in the KSRTC counter of madurai once. Mobile site of TNSTC and KSRTC site displays all type of buses. Better they can remove this "Service class" option for main eticketing site also.

KaSRTC was listing "Any" class even recently. The "Any" option was removed after people started simply searching for services. So they filtered services based on class and timings. Since the TNSTC reservation system is still at its growing stages, they can afford to offer the "Any" class system for now - may be they'll have to remove it later.

Instead of giving time-wise split-up of the buses, which is really irritating, they can display all the buses in a single go the choice of filtering by class of service and time, can be made optional.

One filter - either time or class - is required. Otherwise it will load the server heavily.

rsubbu.mdu

November 24th, 2011, 05:14 PM

On the TNSTC's website, first they need to clearly put a photo and feature of each class of service offered. Any person new to TN would blink at seeing terminologies like UD, SD etc.

gvijayan

November 25th, 2011, 02:44 AM

rsubbu.mdu

November 25th, 2011, 04:04 AM

தூத்துக்குடியில் 25 ஏக்கரில் புதிய பஸ் ஸ்டாண்டு
தூத்துக்குடி, நவ.24-2011, TutiNews (http://tutinews.com/newsbriefs.php?m=1767&tb=vm1&mn=1)

தூத்துக்குடி மாநகரில் நாளுக்குநாள் பெருகிவரும் வாகனங்கள், மக்கள்தொகை பெருக்கத்தால் சாலைகளில் போக்குவரத்து நெருக்கடி, நெரிசல் ஏற்படுவது என்பது வாடிக்கையாகி விட்டது. நகரில் இருக்கும் குறுகலான ரோடுகள், சாலைகளிலுள்ள ஆக்கிரமிப்புகள் போன்ற பல்வேறு காரணங்களால் போக்குவரத்தில் நெருக்கடி ஏற்படுவது வாடிக்கையாகி விட்டது.

மாநகரின் மையப்பகுதியில் இருக்கும் பழைய பஸ் ஸ்டாண்டு, மேலூர் ரயில்வே ஸ்டேஷன் அருகேயுள்ள புதிய பஸ் ஸ்டாண்டு என இரண்டு பஸ் ஸ்டாண்டுகள் இருந்தபோதும் போக்குவரத்தில் நெருக்கடி குறைவில்லை. போக்குவரத்து நெரிசலால் நாள்தோறும் பள்ளி செல்லும் மாணவ-மாணவியர்கள், பணிக்கு செல்பவர்கள் என அனைவரும் பெரும் பாதிப்பிற்கு ஆளாகி அவதிப்பட்டு வருகின்றனர்.

போக்குவரத்து நெரிசல், நெருக்கடி போன்றவற்றிற்கு தீர்வு காணும் வகையில் 9கோடி ரூபாய் செலவில் ஒருங்கிணைந்த புதிய பஸ் ஸ்டாண்டு அமையவுள்ளது. இதற்காக துறைமுக பைபாஸ் ரோட்டில் மீன்வளக் கல்லூரிக்கு எதிரேயுள்ள 25 ஏக்கர் இடம் தேர்வு செய்யப்பட்டுள்ளது.

புதிய பஸ் ஸ்டாண்டு கட்ட 9 கோடி ரூபாய் செலவில் திட்ட மதிப்பீடு தயாரிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது. இதேபோன்று தூத்துக்குடியில் லாரிகள் நிறுத்துவதற்காக துறைமுக பைபாஸ் ரோட்டில் திருச்செந்தூர் ரவுண்டானா அருகே இடம் தேர்வு செய்யப்பட்டுள்ளது. சுமார் 50ஏக்கர் பரப்பளவில் 18 கோடி ரூபாய் செலவில் திட்ட அறிக்கை தயாரிக்கப்பட்டு வருகிறது. இதுபோன்ற பயனுள்ள திட்டங்களால் பொதுமக்கள் மகிழ்ச்சி அடைந்துள்ளனர்.
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-New Bus stand to be built in Tuti at a cost of 9cr in 25acre plot on the port bye pass road near fisheries college.
-a 50acre plot has been identified near Tiruchendur round-tana for idle parking space for trucks at an estimated cost of 18cr

binaiks

November 25th, 2011, 04:44 AM

A small comparo...

Ernakulam-Coimbatore route, KeSRTC v/s SETC:

SETC offers only one bus for reservation in EKM-CBE route (EKM-CHE bus), although they have 6 services on EKM-Salem route!!

Here is the running time for SETC v/s KeSRTC:

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3350/ekmcbesetc.jpg
Rs. 185 base fare for 202kms, traveling 6h and 10m. (Total Fare: Rs. 215)

Here is the same for KeSRTC:
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/1923/ekmcbeksrtc.jpg
This is for EKM-CBE Bypass rider Super Express. This bus takes only 4h 25m. Rs. 139 base fare for 193kms! (They charge for the regular route - via Thrissur town, but the bus goes via bypass). Total Fare Rs. 169.

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/4298/cbeekm.jpg
This is for CBE-TVM Super Express, via Thrissur town. This one takes only 5 hours! Rs. 139 is the fare (Total = Rs. 169)

The EKM-CBE Bypass rider is a guaranteed 2x2 Super Express Air Bus. The seats have pushback - 48 seats in all. CBE-TVM Express can be either 2x2 or 2x3 - all are Airbuses though.

vivasayee

November 25th, 2011, 06:17 AM

I am retired person not able to bear bus charge increase.My only hope is that free bus pass to people above 60 years will be given as announced in election manifesto.This was told by my neighbour.

selvank

November 25th, 2011, 04:17 PM

Inspite of fare hike and poor buses, looks still few sectors getting filled 2-3 days before.

From Madurai every bus to Chennai in online reservation is full on 27th! Hope MDU division include all of their ordinary buses too in online reservation.

During TTC era there were 40 services from Madurai to Chennai and another 40 services from Chennai to Madurai, total 80 services. Between 8 & 8:40 PM there used to be buses for every 5 minutes and all of them used to get full during week ends and holidays. They used to run via Trichy bypass not entering the Tricy town. TTC proudly called them as road train. Services included both semi-deluxe and super deluxe buses. I wonder where all those buses have gone. Have passengers shifted to Train and Omni buses?

arun82

November 25th, 2011, 04:57 PM

During TTC era there were 40 services from Madurai to Chennai and another 40 services from Chennai to Madurai, total 80 services. Between 8 & 8:40 PM there used to be buses for every 5 minutes and all of them used to get full during week ends and holidays. They used to run via Trichy bypass not entering the Tricy town. TTC proudly called them as road train. Services included both semi-deluxe and super deluxe buses. I wonder where all those buses have gone. Have passengers shifted to Train and Omni buses?

During that time TNSTC was not running to chennai. People south of Madurai has to depend this services and change buses to reach their destination. Now there is bus even to southern most tip of TN. So now there are more than 40 services for south TN

rsubbu.mdu

November 26th, 2011, 03:51 AM

During that time TNSTC was not running to chennai. People south of Madurai has to depend this services and change buses to reach their destination. Now there is bus even to southern most tip of TN. So now there are more than 40 services for south TN

I have seen Nagercoil-Chennai service of Nesamony even in the year 1995.

Arul Murugan

November 26th, 2011, 04:02 AM

Sree Sree

November 26th, 2011, 09:43 AM

I have seen Nagercoil-Chennai service of Nesamony even in the year 1995.

Subbu Sir do u remember TN - 29N - 09** Madurai depot bus running between Madurai (Thirumangalam) - Chennai at that time

Reno Ruberts R

November 26th, 2011, 04:44 PM

People south of Madurai has to depend this services and change buses to reach their destination.

TTC had enough service from South Check TTC's route list of 1986.

During that time TNSTC was not running to chennai.

Its unbelievable truth. TN government ordered to operate Chennai buses by each Erstwhile corporations at mid 80s So each of them Operated 1 bus to Chennai. (chennai serive was/is money spinner for each corporations till now)

But TTC ran the whole show.

I have seen Nagercoil-Chennai service of Nesamony even in the year 1995.

Nesamony's Nagercoil - Chennai service was running from 1985-86 itself (by RT-1 Depot). They running Nagercoil - Cumbum[now kumuli] service from 1990

HISTORY OF TAMIL NADU STATE TRANSPORT CORPORATION

Thank you Mr. Subramanian.

selvank

November 26th, 2011, 05:27 PM

1. Omni bus
2. Train
3. Flight

But even now no. gvt of buses running b/w Madurai and Chennai would cross more than 60 considering TNSTC, AC, UD.

Arul you are right. Number of omni buses have increased drastically. Also conversion of Chennai - Madurai MG line to BG has increased train capacity. Number of trains has also increased. In MG only three night trains were operated: Pandiyan, Nellai and Quilon Mail (Pothigai running at present). Now we have additional daily trains like Pear city, Kanyakumari, Ananthapuri and several special trains.

Sathyan

November 26th, 2011, 06:51 PM

During that time TNSTC was not running to chennai. People south of Madurai has to depend this services and change buses to reach their destination. Now there is bus even to southern most tip of TN. So now there are more than 40 services for south TN
Arun82.... I think u were not in TamilNadu during that period.... or might be u was not aware abt TTC/TNSTC......

Sathyan

November 26th, 2011, 07:02 PM

Nesamony's Nagercoil - Chennai service was running from 1985-86 itself (by RT-1 Depot). They running Nagercoil - Cumbum[now kumuli] service from 1990

Reno sir... since long time why no pics/news from u sir.....? u r busy now days....?
Pls give some details abt NGL-CUM(now Kumuli) serivice by NGL depot which u have mentioned......

dr_thapalathy

November 27th, 2011, 04:02 AM

An erstwhile Thanthai Periyar Transport Corporation bus. The no comes in TMN series. Shot at Mamandur Motel yesterday night. The engine sound is still in good condition...

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7156/6408885709_a8f4452566.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7146/6408884907_a94c704454.jpg

Can anyone explain it..

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6060/6408886507_ca639b026b.jpg

dr_thapalathy

November 27th, 2011, 04:06 AM

During TTC era there were 40 services from Madurai to Chennai and another 40 services from Chennai to Madurai, total 80 services. Between 8 & 8:40 PM there used to be buses for every 5 minutes and all of them used to get full during week ends and holidays. They used to run via Trichy bypass not entering the Tricy town. TTC proudly called them as road train. Services included both semi-deluxe and super deluxe buses. I wonder where all those buses have gone. Have passengers shifted to Train and Omni buses?

Apart from TNSTCs, Omni buses and trains, most of the routes operated by TTC, got phased to TNSTCs. For eg - Cuddalore - Madurai and Cuddalore - Coimbatore were operated by TTC, which is now being operated by TNSTC.

Also, TTC had, 7 services a day in Pondy - Coimbatore sector.
In 2000s, it decreased to 5 and now it is just 3 a day.

Anyone of you, having any idea on what is the latest new route added by SETC in the recent times??

dr_thapalathy

November 27th, 2011, 04:12 AM

Guys,

I spotted a Bye-Pass Rider Delux Service of TNSTC Tirunelveli with Super Delux seats yesteday night, operating as a special service to Chennai. The reg is TN-72-N-15XX series.

@Arun, @Subbu, @Dhandapani, @Reno

Request you to post the pics of that bus, if available.

chnavis

November 27th, 2011, 08:20 AM

TTC had enough service from South Check TTC's route list of 1986.

Hi Reno

Welcome back after a long time.... Expecting lot of new snaps from your side. And reno i saw the new town buses running at Nagercoil 39 (NGL-Pillai Thoppu), 38 (NGL- Kesavan puthenturai) hope u ll post all those soon...

dhandapanik

November 27th, 2011, 11:23 AM

Cross posting from Madurai Road Transport thread.
Finally got these giants running to Hyderabad from Madurai. I've missed this for long time. :)

Kesineni's Madurai-Hyderabad service waiting for the departure. The first operator to start Madurai-Hyderabad service. Then KPN Followed it.. Kesineni started one more service from Hyd to TVM via Madurai.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-YO2IjfkvY7Q/TtENzau2FCI/AAAAAAAAEok/P1oGsUAQxR0/s640/DSC_0293.jpg

KPN's Madurai-Hyderabad service waiting for the departure to HYD. Front Windshield has some cracks in this bus.Suprised to see two Hyderabad service at the same time. :)
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-OF0teBxAff0/TtEN1WLwCsI/AAAAAAAAEoo/O0IX3zhPEdE/s640/DSC_0297.jpg

superfast444

November 27th, 2011, 01:06 PM

An erstwhile Thanthai Periyar Transport Corporation bus. The no comes in TMN series. Shot at Mamandur Motel yesterday night. The engine sound is still in good condition...

Can anyone explain it..

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6060/6408886507_ca639b026b.jpg

this picture gives the detail of front & rear body load capacity :ohno:detail in kg ,also given next FC date or permission cutoff date for run as Dec-2011.

good collection

Sree Sree

November 27th, 2011, 02:55 PM

Can anyone explain it..

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6060/6408886507_ca639b026b.jpg[/QUOTE]

mun achu yedai
pin achu yedai

front and back axle weight

chnavis

November 27th, 2011, 04:48 PM

Can anyone explain it..

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6060/6408886507_ca639b026b.jpg

mun achu yedai
pin achu yedai

front and back axle weight[/QUOTE]

Ve Va - Vettu Vaaganam?
Pa va - Payani Vaaganam?

Dont know pls confirm this !!

chnavis

November 27th, 2011, 04:56 PM

Cross posting from Madurai Road Transport thread.

Hi May i know the route details of Hyd-TVM? how its going via chennai?

dineshpkm

November 27th, 2011, 05:15 PM

It is going via salem, madurai, tirunelveli, nagercoil. Now salem got 9 buses to hyderabad.

dineshpkm

November 27th, 2011, 05:17 PM

Hi May i know the route details of Hyd-TVM? how its going via chennai?

via kurnool, anatapur, madanapalle, kuppam, krishnagiri, salem, madurai, tirunelveli, nagercoil.

binaiks

November 27th, 2011, 05:33 PM

Can anyone explain it..

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6060/6408886507_ca639b026b.jpg

The details are: Unladen Weight (U.W), Laden Weight (L.W), Front Axle Weight (FAW), Rear Axle Weight (RAW), FC Expiry date and Carrying Capacity (usually seating capacity). In addition, the details of Insurance Policy Issuer, Expiry date of Insurance Policy, details of Tyres are also required.

Reno Ruberts R

November 27th, 2011, 06:16 PM

An erstwhile Thanthai Periyar Transport Corporation bus.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7146/6408884907_a94c704454.jpg

Anand,
One more for my archive. Thanks for sharing. One request Can you tell the Reg No of it?. i guess it must be TMN 5X05

Anyone of you, having any idea on what is the latest new route added by SETC in the recent times??

From my knowledge Nagercoil - Velankanni / Trivandrum - Vellore / Trivandrum - Puducherry are recent one which was added when UDs introduced in SETC. Correct me if my wrong. I don't think there any new route(s) in SETC. If So it must be a extended service.

Reno sir... since long time why no pics/news from u sir.....? u r busy now days....?

Year ending works. I'll be back soon

Pls give some details abt NGL-CUM(now Kumuli) serivice by NGL depot which u have mentioned......

NGL - CUMBUM route was operated by TTC during oldern days. It was transfered to NTC at 1990. NTC operated as night service. Later they added one more day service too. At 15th Nov06 the service was extended to Kumuli DGL Div (now reg) also joined in it and started 1 service. Now NGL operating 4+ service and DGL operating 2 service.

Hi Reno
reno i saw the new town buses running at Nagercoil 39 (NGL-Pillai Thoppu), 38 (NGL- Kesavan puthenturai) hope u ll post all those soon...

Totally 4 S.S body Town buses
Nagercoil - PillaiThoppu
Nagercoil - Kesavanputhenthurai
Nagercoil - Neduvilai
Nagercoil - Thidal

All are NGL built and registered as TN 72
I'll post soon

vgraja

November 27th, 2011, 07:07 PM

The details are: Unladen Weight (U.W), Laden Weight (L.W), Front Axle Weight (FAW), Rear Axle Weight (RAW), FC Expiry date and Carrying Capacity (usually seating capacity). In addition, the details of Insurance Policy Issuer, Expiry date of Insurance Policy, details of Tyres are also required.

1.Registered Laden Weight (FAW + RAW)
2.UnLaden Weight
3,Front Axle Weight
4.Rear Axle Weight
5.Tire Sizes
5.Seating Capacity
6.Policy No:
Name of the Insurer & address
Date of expiry
7.Owner address

These are all the mandatory things for Public/Passenger Carrier

Arul Murugan

November 28th, 2011, 01:50 AM

* After 10years, private bus conductors and drivers are getting more daily allowance

* More than 300 private buses are in operation in Salem dt.

* Before gvt bus fare hike, 100-150 rupees is their daily salary and 3 to 3.5% of total collection is their daily allowance. These private buses makes an average of 10,000 rupees as their daily collection. So their daily allowance will be between 300 to 350 rupees (10500 to 13250 rupees per month)

* After bus fare hike, daily collection has increased by 30%, so their daily allowance also increased considerably (i.e around 13,000 daily collection, 390 to 455 rupees daily allowance (12750 to 15875 rupees per month).

10 ஆண்டுக்கு பின் "பேட்டா' அதிகரிப்பு தனியார் பஸ் டிரைவர், கண்டக்டர் மகிழ்ச்சி

மேட்டூர்: பஸ் கட்டணம் உயர்வு காரணமாக, பத்தாண்டுக்கு பின், பேட்டா (தினப்படி) அதிகரித்துள்ளது, தனியார் பஸ் டிரைவர், கண்டக்டர்களை மகிழ்ச்சியில் ஆழ்த்தியுள்ளது. சேலம் மாவட்டத்தில், 300க்கும் மேற்பட்ட தனியார் பஸ்கள் இயக்கப்படுகிறது. பெரும்பாலான தனியார் பஸ்களில் பணிபுரியும் டிரைவர், மற்றும் கண்டக்டர்களுக்கு தினம்தோறும், 100 முதல் 150 ரூபாய் சம்பளம் வழங்கப்படுகிறது. இதுதவிர தினமும் பஸ்ஸில் பயணிக்கும் பயணிகள் மூலம் வசூலாகும் கட்டணத்தில், 3 முதல், 3.5 சதவீதம் டிரைவர் மற்றும் கண்டக்டர்களுக்கு பேட்டாவாக (தினப்படி) வழங்கப்பட்டது. ஒரு பஸ்ஸில் தினமும், 10 ஆயிரம் ரூபாய் வசூலாகும் பட்சத்தில் டிரைவர், கண்டக்டர்களுக்கு, 300 முதல் 350 ரூபாய் பேட்டா வழங்கப்படும்.

தனியார் பஸ்ஸில் பணிபுரியும் டிரைவர்கள், கண்டக்டர்களுக்கு சம்பளம் குறைவு என்பதால், அவர்கள் பேட்டாவை நம்பியே வேலை செய்தனர். 10 ஆண்டுகளாக பஸ் கட்டணம் உயராததால் தனியார் பஸ் ஊழியர்களுக்கு பேட்டாவும் குறைவாகவே கிடைத்தது. எனவே, ஊதிய உயர்வை எதிர்பார்த்து தனியார் பஸ் ஊழியர்கள் காத்திருந்தனர். பத்தாண்டுக்கு பின் தற்போது தமிழக அரசு பஸ் கட்டணத்தை உயர்த்தியுள்ளது. அரசு பஸ்கள் கட்டண உயர்வுக்கு ஏற்ப தனியார் பஸ்களிலும் கட்டணம் உயர்த்தப்பட்டதால் வழக்கத்தை விட, 30 சதவீதம் வசூல் அதிகரித்துள்ளது. அதற்கேற்ப பேட்டாவும் அதிகரித்துள்ளது தனியார் பஸ் டிரைவர், கண்டக்டர்களை மகிழ்ச்சியில் ஆழ்த்தியுள்ளது.

தனியார் பஸ் ஊழியர்கள் சிலர் கூறியதாவது: பஸ் கட்டணம் உயர்த்தப்பட்டதால், அதற்கேற்ப எங்களது பேட்டாவும் பத்தாண்டுக்கு பின் அதிகரித்துள்ளது. ஆனால், கட்டணம் உயர்த்தியதை தொடர்ந்து கடந்த இரு நாட்களாக பஸ்களில் பயணிகள் எண்ணிக்கை குறைந்து விட்டது. இதுவரை வசூலான தொகை தான் இப்போதும் வசூலாகிறது. வரும் நாளில் வழக்கம்போல பயணிகள் பஸ்ஸில் பயணிப்பர் என்பதால் வசூல் அதிகரிக்கும். எங்களுக்கான பேட்டாவும் கூடுதலாக கிடைக்கும் என எதிர்பார்க்கிறோம். இவ்வாறு அவர்கள் கூறினர்

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