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pokistic

July 8th, 2009, 05:18 PM

fabbio_123

July 8th, 2009, 07:32 PM

Some facts about São Paulo:

The metropolitan area of São Paulo concentrates around 20MM ppl. However, both the city center (geographically and also the older downtown area) and the outskirts are mainly degraded areas.

This means that if you imagine the metropolitan area of São Paulo as a circle (which is almost correct), you will find a degraded inner circle (diameter about 4km = 2.5 miles), surrounded by a middle and high-class ring varying from 4 to 10km (2.5 to 6.5 miles) large, which is then surrounded by low-class outskirts. This is evidently generalization, so it may not reflect the exact situation of each neighborhood inside the areas I mentioned.

However, the situation described above has some bad results. As ppl concentration is very spread out, including commercial and residential areas that have been disorderly developed in the imaginary “intermediate ring”, it is difficult to identify one single spot in the city that concentrates all necessary factors that have allowed the development of large luxury avenues, such as the 5th Ave. and Champs-Elysées (e.g. luxury hotels, shops, “AAA” commercial buildings and high-wealth residential buildings).

In São Paulo, the largest concentration of luxury hotels is both in the “Jardins” district, and also in the new downtown area, generally called “Brooklyn”, near Berrini Ave.

Luxury apartments are also found in the “Jardins” district, but due to the availability of undeveloped land, most modern high-wealth residential buildings are located elsewhere.

The new “AAA” commercial buildings are mostly located in the “Itaim” and “Brooklyn” districts, which are nearby. Main aves. are “Faria Lima” and “Berrini”, as well as “Marginal Pinheiros” (which was originally a ring-road – like Parisian Boulevard Periphérique –, but has now been almost entirelly “converted” into a regular avenue, due to city growth).

Luxury shops are mainly located inside large Shopping Centers. São Paulo is known for its large number of malls, among which there are some of the largest ones in the world. This is due to (i) security reasons; but mainly to (ii) the need of large spaces with easy access through main avenues allied to large parking availability.

Street luxury shops are rare, and the only spot they may be found in São Paulo is in the “Jardins” district, mainly Rua Oscar Freire, which is a very small street. It has the largest concentration of international and Brazilian luxury brands, but it is not comparable to 5th avenue or Champs-Elysées, which are touristic spots. Rua Oscar Freire is more comparable to Parisian Rue du Faubourg Saint-Honoré.

iloveasia

July 8th, 2009, 08:32 PM

Here is a list of some of them http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_leading_shopping_streets_and_districts_by_city#South_America

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_leading_shopping_streets_and_districts_by_city#North_America

pokistic

July 8th, 2009, 09:14 PM

^^ Are those 'luxury' shopping streets? They looks just like regular shopping streets for the local people. But maybe that is all they have in Latin/South America. It is a shame they have to make luxury malls instead. Hopefully one day a city can attract the rich and tourists to a more urban street setting.

Thanks for the comments fabbio_123.

Occit

July 8th, 2009, 10:09 PM

In Caracas for example, luxury streets have died in the 2000's because delinquency, now every luxury shop is confined to Malls. We've now a lot of malls, but the streets look very simple. Only the zone of Las Mercedes could be kind of luxury shopping street.

In Venezuela only Margarita Island still have this kind of streets, the rest...similar to Caracas.

MexiQuebecois

July 8th, 2009, 10:14 PM

^^

Masaryk Avenue in Mexico City is probably the most luxurious shopping street in Mexico, it is located in one of the most prestigious residential districts of Mexico called Polanco. From Wikipedia:

"The most-valued street in Latin America. It is the street with the most upscale boutiques in Mexico City. It is compared by some to LA's Rodeo Drive or New York City's 5th Avenue. The Avenue is called after the first President of Czechoslovakia Tomáš Masaryk."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polanco_(Mexico))

If you allow me, I could probably post some photos.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avenida_Presidente_Masaryk
"Avenida Presidente Masaryk (English: President Masaryk Avenue) refers to a street in Polanco, Mexico City, Mexico. It's the most-valued street in Latin America and the one with most boutiques in Mexico City. In addition to its boutiques, some of the most expensive restaurants in Mexico City are found along this beautiful avenue. It runs from Calzada Gral. Mariano Escobedo to F. C. de Cuernavaca Avenue. Masaryk, as it is commonly called, is one of the most expensive shopping districts in the world. The Avenue is named after the first President of Czechoslovakia Tomáš Masaryk.

The street was named by President Lázaro Cárdenas in 1936 as a recognition to the Czech democrat and statesman. In 1999 the city of Prague donated a statue of Masaryk to Mexico city, a copy of the one in the Castle of Prague. The statue was placed in the roundabout at the intersection of Av. Presidente Masaryk and Arquímedes."

martien

July 8th, 2009, 10:15 PM

President Masaryk Avenue in Mexico City

"Avenida Presidente Masaryk (English: President Masaryk Avenue) refers to a street in Polanco, Mexico City, Mexico. It's the most-valued street in Latin America and the one with most boutiques in Mexico City. In addition to its boutiques, some of the most expensive restaurants in Mexico City are found along this beautiful avenue"

- Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avenida_Presidente_Masaryk

MexiQuebecois

July 8th, 2009, 10:17 PM

^^

haha beat you to it ;)

pokistic

July 8th, 2009, 11:17 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polanco_(Mexico)

If you allow me, I could probably post some photos.

That link does not work. And please post photos!

MexiQuebecois

July 8th, 2009, 11:47 PM

Woops! it's missing a parenthesis, sorry!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polanco_(Mexico))

And ok let me try to find some.

rosn19

July 8th, 2009, 11:50 PM

ok i wanna see some photos of masaryk, i've only been once to the capital and it was just that same day and left, i didn't get to go to many places

MexiQuebecois

July 8th, 2009, 11:54 PM

Found some, All images taken from the LatinScrapers section in this forum, Thread title is the name of the street. Avenida Masaryk

http://bp2.blogger.com/_-k45zxWzAfY/R7xZvIF4ETI/AAAAAAAAA2E/89jr5tIbsng/s400/Imagen1.jpg

Louis Vuitton.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3141/2582535749_c472d5229f_b.jpg

Cartier.
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/5051/masaryk15pm1.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k239/canellemx/Polanco/mazaryk4.jpg

Chanel.
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/9315/masaryk12py6.jpg

Ermenegildo Zegna.
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/8022/masaryk13ge5.jpg

Bvlgari.
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/5336/masaryk10en1.jpg

Etro.
http://bp1.blogger.com/_-k45zxWzAfY/R7xa64F4EZI/AAAAAAAAA20/GRjNxi6svuU/s400/Imagen10.jpg
http://masaryk.tv/wp-content/uploads/tiendaetromasaryk.jpg

Hermes.
http://bp0.blogger.com/_-k45zxWzAfY/R7xa6oF4EYI/AAAAAAAAA2s/3lEBnGLRggs/s400/Imagen8.jpg

Ed Hardy.
http://proyectoblogspace.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/img_777020copy.jpg

Roberto Cavalli.
http://bp1.blogger.com/_-k45zxWzAfY/R7xa94F4EbI/AAAAAAAAA3E/8BhvNhvutco/s400/Imagen13.jpg

Gucci.
http://bp3.blogger.com/_-k45zxWzAfY/R7xZvYF4EUI/AAAAAAAAA2M/1ya1N-rfGqY/s400/Imagen2.jpg

Burberry.
http://bp1.blogger.com/_-k45zxWzAfY/R7xZv4F4EWI/AAAAAAAAA2c/pHGDU3jUPHU/s400/Imagen6.jpg

Tane.
http://masaryk.tv/wp-content/uploads/tane.jpg

Max Mara.
http://masaryk.tv/wp-content/uploads/maxmara.jpg

Tiffany & Co.
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/7356/mas4vp8.png

American Apparel.
http://www.americanapparel.net/storelocations/storephotos/mexico/mexico_04.jpg

Bang & Olufsen
http://europeandesigns.net/bang-olufsen/bang-olufsen-Masaryk.jpg

Roche Bobois.
http://europeandesigns.net/rochebobois/Roche-Bobois-Masaryk.jpg

Salvatore Ferragamo.
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7742/mas1rr4.png

Natuzzi.
http://masaryk.tv/wp-content/uploads/natuzzi.jpg

MexiQuebecois

July 9th, 2009, 12:01 AM

A few more photos:

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/7276/p1000117px1.jpg

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/81/p1000121cb6.jpg

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/6541/p1000116jp9.jpg

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/3618/p1000134zi1.jpg

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/241/p1000138zs5.jpg

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/7227/p1000135fx1.jpg

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/1636/masaryk1pp7.jpg

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/636/masaryk2vm3.jpg

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/8718/masaryk3zt0.jpg

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/3034/masaryk4zc2.jpg

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/1050/masaryk5ko1.jpg[/img]

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/7443/masaryk6fj7.jpg

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/6292/masaryk7pz1.jpg

http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/9075/masaryk8hv9.jpg

http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/5156/masaryk9ey6.jpg

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/5336/masaryk10en1.jpg

http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/8697/masaryk11fz6.jpg

rosn19

July 9th, 2009, 12:02 AM

Thanks for the images, it looks very similar to this boutique avenue in San Pedro Garza Garcia in Nuevo Leon.

MexiQuebecois

July 9th, 2009, 12:03 AM

woops, I believe that in my second batch of photos, the first 3 or 4 are actually residential neighbourhoods from adjacent streets, but it gives you a good idea of how the neighbourhood looks like, it has a lot of contemporary architecture which I love. Pretty damn expensive to live there though, it's just insane.

MexiQuebecois

July 9th, 2009, 12:06 AM

Thanks for the images, it looks very similar to this boutique avenue in San Pedro Garza Garcia in Nuevo Leon.

Yeah definitely San Pedro Garza Garcia has it's own luxury, correct me if I am wrong but I believe San Pedro was planned to be a high end luxury neighbourhood since the beginning, while Polanco and Masaryk avenue gradually involved into what they are today. That's just my perspective.

rosn19

July 9th, 2009, 12:09 AM

rosn19

July 9th, 2009, 12:10 AM

Yeah definitely San Pedro Garza Garcia has it's own luxury, correct me if I am wrong but I believe San Pedro was planned to be a high end luxury neighbourhood since the beginning, while Polanco and Masaryk avenue gradually involved into what they are today. That's just my perspective.

Yes, Mexico City has much older colonial neighbourhoods and they just eventually became very high end, most places like these in northern Mexico are new, and they were planned. Mexico City has very shik looking areas.:cheers:

rosn19

July 9th, 2009, 12:12 AM

You should put pictures of San Pedro too, its really fancy looking.

MexiQuebecois

July 9th, 2009, 12:17 AM

^^

Sure :) There was a thread about San Pedro somewhere in the MXScrapers section, I'll see if I can find it.

rosn19

July 9th, 2009, 12:22 AM

^^

Sure :) There was a thread about San Pedro somewhere in the MXScrapers section, I'll see if I can find it.

Thnx:banana::cheers:

martien

July 9th, 2009, 02:47 AM

The streets in San Pedro with the luxury stores are Calzada del Valle- Calzada San Pedro

Aireos

July 9th, 2009, 03:32 AM

In Bogota the sector of luxury shopping streets is know as Zone T, and also offers a wide range of restaurants and an active nightlife, and has 3 malls focused on luxury and middle class stores.

Currently, the luxury shopping sector is growing and is in the process of consolidation.

There are other very important streets in Bogota with a very active trade, but its stores are focused on middle-class segments of the population and are located mainly in downtown and north of the city. (Carrera 13, Carrera 7ma, Carrera 15, etc).

Some pics:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3266/2715030621_5b6a9db6db.jpg?v=0
Aaron and Carmen (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aaronandcarmen/2715030621/)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1045/988346235_8494794156.jpg?v=0
Jcgd77 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jcgd77/988346235/)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/163/363771154_3947aab11c.jpg?v=0
PabloMedellin (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pablomedellin/363770915/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3029/2921793930_52fbdb110d.jpg?v=1227031127
Rutlo (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rutlo/2921793930/in/set-72157607816256182/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3109/2618974457_7af4cc25fb.jpg?v=0
Arturogoga (http://www.flickr.com/photos/arturogoga/2618974089/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3167/2618977619_4cbb81d4a8.jpg?v=0
Arturogoga (http://www.flickr.com/photos/arturogoga/2618977619/)

A residential building street level:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3250/2619796554_82f9955f4b.jpg?v=0
Arturogoga (http://www.flickr.com/photos/arturogoga/2619796554/)

Andino Mall street level:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3289/2618972743_8ec9218a6d.jpg?v=0
Arturogoga (http://www.flickr.com/photos/arturogoga/2618972743/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3214/2921793066_a7feffea72.jpg?v=0
Rutlo (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rutlo/2921793066/in/set-72157607816256182/)

Building new shops:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3290/2619797290_753eab53b4.jpg?v=0
Arturogoga (http://www.flickr.com/photos/arturogoga/2619797290/)

In the morning:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3494/3456966848_0faffdc1fd.jpg?v=0
Santiago Castillo (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sfcastillo/3456966848/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3272/2618971819_015bb58c6d.jpg?v=0
Arturogoga (http://www.flickr.com/photos/arturogoga/2618971819/in/photostream/)

El Retiro Mall street level:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2462/3615517048_3c2da8cf99.jpg?v=0
Rutlo (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rutlo/2921793254/in/set-72157607816256182/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3118/2618972321_728f040022.jpg?v=0
Edgar Zuniga Jr. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/edgarzuniga/3615517048/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3027/2618973505_b22e85e679.jpg?v=0
Arturogoga (http://www.flickr.com/photos/arturogoga/2618973505/)

93st Park:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/bengochocha/540696941_00d085633c_b.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/bengochocha/2072024436_7d29a36bb0_b.jpg

And an overview:

http://i25.************/24qirl0.jpg
Rutlo (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rutlo/2921794870/sizes/l/in/set-72157607816256182/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3060/2920949415_8e2f05c976_b.jpg
Rutlo (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rutlo/2920949415/sizes/l/in/set-72157607816256182/)

SouthmoreAvenue

July 9th, 2009, 04:23 AM

nice but from the pics, i think the Mexico City one is the better of the 2....

isakres

July 9th, 2009, 04:26 AM

Mmhh...Presidente Mazaryk Ave in Mex City is indeed a luxury shopping street. Calzada del Valle & Calzada San Pedro in San Pedro Garza Garcia are luxury shopping streets as well, just smaller than Mazaryk but more beautiful.

Luxury stores that can be found in Mazaryk St:
Adolfo Dominguez, American Apparel, Berger Joyeros, Bang & Olufsen ,Brioni ,Burberry ,Bvlgari ,Cartier ,Carrera y Carrera ,Chanel ,Chopard ,Corneliani ,Diesel S.p.A. ,DKNY ,Ermenegildo Zegna ,Escada ,Etro ,Eckō ,Fendi ,Frette ,Gucci ,Hermès ,High Life/Canali ,Hugo Boss ,Kipling ,Lacoste ,Lalique ,Loewe ,Louis Vuitton ,Massimo Dutti ,Max Mara ,Montblanc ,Oakley ,Omega ,Pal Zileri ,Peyrelongue ,Puma ,Roberto Cavalli ,Roche Bobois ,Salvatore Ferragamo ,Tane (Mexican jewelry) ,TechnoMarine ,Tiffany & Co. ,Vilebrequin...etc.

Maybe Buenos Aires and Santiago in Chile has luxury shopping streets (not malls).......Mmhh about Bogotá...dont know if thats a luxury shopping district or just one street as Mazaryk.

SouthmoreAvenue

July 9th, 2009, 04:34 AM

gabrielbabb

July 9th, 2009, 04:41 AM

This is San Pedro in Monterrey, Mexico:

Calzada del Valle and Calzada San Pedro avenues have boutiques as Louis Vuitton, Fendi, Cartier, Corneliani, Damiani, Adolfo Dominguez, Tane, Tous, Natuzzi, Roche Bobois, Bang & Olufsen, Hugo Boss, Lacoste, Ermenegildo Zegna, Max Mara, La Perla, Salvatore Ferragamo and interesting restaurants, cafes, and other stablishments of First Level

Louis Vuitton, Fendi, Tane
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg108/dancingwithnacos4/2143368923_0d3eb15345_b.jpg

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg108/dancingwithnacos4/2675328031_47fef0ecc4_b.jpg

Salvatore Ferragamo
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg108/dancingwithnacos4/1601200.jpg

Roche Bobois
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg108/dancingwithnacos4/rochebobois500x500.jpg http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg108/dancingwithnacos4/Roche-Bobois-Masaryk.jpg

Max Mara / La Perla
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg108/dancingwithnacos4/2125847299_dbeec4e31b_b.jpg

Natuzzi
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg108/dancingwithnacos4/DSCF0074copy.jpg

Ermenegildo Zegna
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg108/dancingwithnacos4/2945173351_5ff6c6ba93_b.jpg

Lacoste en Plaza 401 (?)
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg108/dancingwithnacos4/382461095_5c8135aa0d.jpg

Hugo Boss, se localiza en esta plaza, no encontre foto
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg108/dancingwithnacos4/209692160_0af5d6d57e_o.jpg

Bares y Restaurantes
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg108/dancingwithnacos4/2105699936_ee7cace620_b.jpg

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg108/dancingwithnacos4/2383650900_bcd6265122_b.jpg

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg108/dancingwithnacos4/2180877590_ff3d9c5a94_b.jpg

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg108/dancingwithnacos4/4458349.jpg

Sobre Ave Gomez Morin, se ubica Plaza San Pedro con más tiendas exlusivas como Tiffany

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg108/dancingwithnacos4/1814556606_fc3e8c3048_b.jpg

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg108/dancingwithnacos4/1600969.jpg

Las Calzadas arboladas en medio para disfrute del peaton

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg108/dancingwithnacos4/2945168105_e2a3ca2f4c_b.jpg

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg108/dancingwithnacos4/copiadeplaza401wp7ko8.jpg

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg108/dancingwithnacos4/2945178331_a1f5d15780_b.jpg

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg108/dancingwithnacos4/1823957.jpg

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg108/dancingwithnacos4/796599.jpg

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg108/dancingwithnacos4/calzadadelvalleestablechl3.jpg

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg108/dancingwithnacos4/6869524.jpg

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg108/dancingwithnacos4/2616638999_58a4f26905_o.jpg

Damiani
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x146/dancingwithnacos/damianicarranzaycarranzqv5.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x146/dancingwithnacos/skandiamonterreyiiicn0.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x146/dancingwithnacos/copiadeplaza401wp7ko8.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x146/dancingwithnacos/calzdelrosarioxxxiem4-1.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x146/dancingwithnacos/skylinespggvr3.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x146/dancingwithnacos/calzadadelvalleglorietaln4.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x146/dancingwithnacos/calzadadelvallexxxiiqo6.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x146/dancingwithnacos/calzadasanpedrovize3.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x146/dancingwithnacos/calzadadelvalleestablechl3.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x146/dancingwithnacos/copiadelouisvuittonsh8cz7.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x146/dancingwithnacos/louisvuittonfendilemoncrq6-1.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x146/dancingwithnacos/louisvuittonfendiiiqx4.jpg

Don Pacho

July 9th, 2009, 03:57 PM

rosn19

July 9th, 2009, 07:30 PM

In what city are these shops located? Buenos Aires? Mexico City? :dunno:

Mexico City. Monterrey has nicer streets though:cheers:

Occit

July 9th, 2009, 08:40 PM

Caracas, Las Mercedes:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3142/2318001293_52b0149352_o.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/81/372806305_089bc9c5cc.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/155/427782982_37405c67dc.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/27/56595305_2008d0faca.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2366/2373612213_038cae7658.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2165/2099321547_7283ea0fa9.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/138/323125084_e491d4048f.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2389/2052685196_9b4fc6a678.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3235/2761056148_5fecf07655.jpg

Note: this zone was one of most luxury in south america by the 80's. Now the 90% of luxury shops in Caracas are inside the malls.

pokistic

July 9th, 2009, 10:20 PM

Mexico City is awesome! Nice street. Also San Pedro in Monterrey! Now that is luxury. Any more cities?

rosn19

July 10th, 2009, 01:01 AM

they should post some of buenos aires, im pretty sure it has great shopping too

isakres

July 10th, 2009, 02:59 AM

^^Yeaphh..I agree...I bet Bs As must have an old european-like luxury shopping street.....any argentinean buddy to confirm??

brain damage

July 10th, 2009, 09:18 PM

You were asking for BA?

Buenos Aires - Avenida Alvear

EDIT: There are other nice streets, I promise more pics:

1) Arenales Street From Callao Ave. to San Martín Square.
2) Quintana Ave.
3) Florida Street from "Galerías Pacífico Shopping Mall” to the "Plaza Hotel", (the "Harrods of London" building is here).
4) Posadas Street (boutiques Like "Fendi", "Chanel", "House Carolina Herrera", "Patio Bullrich", etc....)
5) Santa Fe Ave. from Callao Ave. to Florida Street .

(Thx to USARG)

In the past, both Florida and Lavalle were luxury shopping streets too, but their days of glory have passed. :ohno::ohno::ohno:

Some pics posted by Cnavar (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/member.php?u=137511) in THIS (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=552404&highlight=alvear) thread:

1. Alvear Palace Hotel.
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee196/Cnavar/hotel_alvear.jpg
2.
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee196/Cnavar/P1060362.jpg
3.
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee196/Cnavar/P1060361.jpg
4.
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30. Tower in Posadas Street, taken from Alvear Av.
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34. Brazil Embassy.
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37. France Embassy Dome.
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I hope you liked it. :cheers:

rosn19

July 10th, 2009, 10:29 PM

srry

JPBrazil

July 11th, 2009, 02:13 AM

Why the fuck people insist on quoting posts with loads of pictures? :gaah:

movic

July 13th, 2009, 04:33 AM

I think Santiago, Chile also has a very nice shopping street. There was a thread in the latin american forums, I'll try to find it.

isakres

July 13th, 2009, 08:26 PM

Alvear Ave in Buenos Aires is totally awesome.......old, clean and classy...thanks for those pics che.....
:cheers:

pokistic

July 13th, 2009, 09:30 PM

Totally loved it! thnx for posting them!!! it reminds me of this neighbourhood in Mexico City called Colonia Roma, very old world atmosphere and pedestrian friendly. The streets in San Pedro maybe be high end, but I prefer these type of walkable beautiful places.

Can you please EDIT and delete that Quote with all those photos!!! Thanks

An yes Buenos Aires has a fantastic Luxurious street. I am sorry to hear that the new Malls are taking away from a few other streets. Hopefully this one stays luxury for the longest time.

jcarloschile

July 14th, 2009, 03:50 AM

In Santiago it's Alonso de Cordova.

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franpunk

July 16th, 2009, 04:05 PM

Alvear Avenue in Buenos Aires was chosen the fifth most elegant and sophisticated avenue in the world

Alvear Avenue, which starts at Intendente Alvear Square and ends at Carlos Pellegrini Avenue, is one of the most elegant in Buenos Aires, and was included in a project to be declared as an Historic Protection Area by the Municipal governement. It is one of the landmarks of the upscale Recoleta neighborhood.

According to a recent survey by NBC network, Alvear Avenue was chosen as the fifth most elegant and sophisticated avenue in the world, after the Fifth Avenue and Madison Avenue in New York, Les Champs Elysées in Paris, and Oxford St, in London for the quality and glamour of its shops and mansions.

At the end of the 19th century, many wealthy families moved to the area and built their homes on this Avenue, mainly in the French Academic Style. Some of this “palaces” are now occupied by public offices, like the Academy of the Arts, the Vatican Embassy and the Brazilian Embassy, world class hotels like the five star hotel Park Hyatt-Palacio Duhau, and many haute-couture mansions, such as Luois Vuitton, Polo Ralph Lauren, Armani, Rochas, Prada, Hermenegildo Zegna, Versace, Cartier, Tyffany & co, Valentino, Gucci, Nina Ricci, among others.

The milestone of Alvear Avenue is the luxurious Alvear Palace Hotel, one of the finest in South America and the world. This hotel, which celebrated its 75th birthday this year, welcomed many presidents and illustrious guests from all over the world. It is also famous for its Sunday Brunches and afternoon teas at its restaurant L´Orangerie, which you can attend even if you are not a guest at the hotel.

http://www.batravelguide.com/2007/09/alvear-avenue-style-and-sophistication.html

You were asking for BA?

Buenos Aires - Avenida Alvear

EDIT: There are other nice streets, I promise more pics:

1) Arenales Street From Callao Ave. to San Martín Square.
2) Quintana Ave.
3) Florida Street from "Galerías Pacífico Shopping Mall” to the "Plaza Hotel", (the "Harrods of London" building is here).
4) Posadas Street (boutiques Like "Fendi", "Chanel", "House Carolina Herrera", "Patio Bullrich", etc....)
5) Santa Fe Ave. from Callao Ave. to Florida Street .

Nice pics!

DELCROID

July 16th, 2009, 04:56 PM

Venezuelan-born Carolina Herrera:

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DELCROID

July 23rd, 2009, 11:35 AM

So which cities in Latin/South America have these luxury streets. Sao Paulo? Mexico City? Panama City? Buenos Aires? Bogota? Caracas? Others?

If not, then why not? Also do you think this can happen in your city one day? What street can come close to this reality in your city? Discuss.

......

Are those 'luxury' shopping streets? They looks just like regular shopping streets for the local people. But maybe that is all they have in Latin/South America. It is a shame they have to make luxury malls instead. Hopefully one day a city can attract the rich and tourists to a more urban street setting.

:ohno::ohno::ohno:

Quite difficult for that to happen, that would be way too much beyond us; We all in Latin America are all poor and still live in indian huts. Perhaps we prefer to spend our time at the beach in our fishing boats...

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/790/24382697946f7ebfcec1o.jpg (http://img24.imageshack.us/i/24382697946f7ebfcec1o.jpg/)

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adrimm

July 28th, 2009, 08:08 AM

To my eye, high end retail Bogota has sadly shifted more and more to malls rather than elegant and vibrant shopping streets. There seems to be much more interest in mega projects (statement-making that look good from a distance), rather than revitalizing streetscapes and building new pedestrian-scaled development.

The malls are boring (very homogeneous crowds) - and mostly auto-oriented (most are only accessible by car, taxi or bus).

Hopefully they'll get past the mall-obsession soon and begin to revitalize the streetscapes. . Alot of the pre-1960s architecture in Bogota is fabulous, but very neglected -sidewalks need work.

There are some huge opportunities for mixed use in some of the post-1970s development.

jpsolarized

July 28th, 2009, 10:25 PM

i hate fashion crap. the only beautiful thing about those pics are avenida alvear and some architecture found in other cities.

fashion people are so PATHETIC.

crawford

July 29th, 2009, 06:35 AM

Mexico City. Monterrey has nicer streets though:cheers:

Mexico City has ten times the wealth of Monterrey and MUCH nicer shopping streets.

SP Garza is not comparable to Masaryk in Polanco. Masaryk is more like traditional downtown shopping.

SP Garza is a suburban mall area. It's more comparable to shopping centers in DF like Perisur, Centro Coyocan and Santa Fe.

crawford

July 29th, 2009, 06:40 AM

To my eye, high end retail Bogota has sadly shifted more and more to malls rather than elegant and vibrant shopping streets. There seems to be much more interest in mega projects (statement-making that look good from a distance), rather than revitalizing streetscapes and building new pedestrian-scaled development.

This is everywhere in Latin America. I have not visited a Latin American city where high-end retail is mostly not in malls.

Even here in DF, Masayrk is one relatively short street. Perisur and Santa Fe are huge malls with 20 times as many customers, and have many (but not all) of the same stores.

crawford

July 29th, 2009, 06:44 AM

^^ Are those 'luxury' shopping streets? They looks just like regular shopping streets for the local people. But maybe that is all they have in Latin/South America.

Latin America has tremendous wealth. Mexico has far more millionaires than Germany.

The problem in Latin America is wealth distribution. It has terrible income gaps.

But there are no shortage of rich. I do not live in the nicest Mexico City neighborhood; not even close, but there are tons of Ferraris, Range Rovers and other nice cars in my neighborhood, and lots of people who ski in Switzerland, own horses, have a large household staff, etc.

USARG

July 30th, 2009, 05:56 AM

^^^^
THIS IS WHY IS SO UNUSUAL A CITY LIKE BUENOS AIRES IN LATIN AMERICA.ITS INFLUENCE IS TOTALLY EUROPEAN IN INSPIRATION AS WELL AS 5th.AVE.AND MADISON AVE.IN NEW YORK CITY.
ENGLISH,ITALIAN,FRENCH,GERMAN AND SPANISH INMIGRANTS CREATED THESE CITIES TO HAVE THE SAME WAY OF LIFE AS IN THEIR OWN IN EUROPE.REMEMBER THAT THEY WENT TO USA AND CANADA IN NORTH AMERICA AND TO ARGENTINA ,CHILE AND URUGUAY IN SOUTH AMERICA.THE REST OF LATIN AMERICA DID NOT RECIEVED THAT ENORMEOUS INFLUENCE IN SUCH A BIG WAY.THAT IS ALSO WHY BESIDES ALVEAR AVE.THERE ARE ALSO ALL THESE OTHER ELEGANT SHOPPING STREETS IN BUENOS AIRES :
-(AS I QUOTED BEFORE)-:

1) Arenales Street From Callao Ave. to San Martín Square.
2) Quintana Ave.
3) Florida Street from "Galerías Pacífico Shopping Mall” to the "Plaza Hotel", (the "Harrods of London" building is here).
4) Posadas Street (boutiques Like "Fendi", "Chanel", "House Carolina Herrera", "Patio Bullrich", etc....)
5) Santa Fe Ave. from Callao Ave. to Florida Street .

Some pics posted by Cnavar (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/member.php?u=137511) in THIS (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=552404&highlight=alvear) thread:

1. Alvear Palace Hotel.
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30. Tower in Posadas Street, taken from Alvear Av.
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34. Brazil Embassy.
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37. France Embassy Dome.
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I hope you liked it. :cheers:[/QUOTE]

Iggui

August 8th, 2009, 04:59 AM

^^ :dunno: why the hell are you posting a shitload of pics of buenos aires THAT WERE ALREADY POSTED IN THIS SAME THREAD?????? (por que cresta vuelves a colocar las mismas fotos que ya fueron postadas????)

Leandro_lenz

July 28th, 2010, 09:29 AM

definitly alvear avenue in buenos aires is the best in southamerica

engenx4

July 28th, 2010, 06:46 PM

Street oscar Freire
the 8th more expensive street in the world

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USARG

August 7th, 2010, 07:45 AM

THIS NEW AREA OF SAN PAULO LOOKS WONDERFUL AND VERY TRENDY.
BUT BUENOS AIRES 'S AVENUES LIKE ALVEAR AVENUE IS UNIQUE AND THE
ONLY ONE COMPARABLE TO CHAMPS ELISESS OR RUE ST.HONORE IN PARIS/
MADISON AVE. OR 5th.AVENUE IN NEW YORK CITY LIKE THE TITLE OF THIS PAGE.

MarcelowSL

August 8th, 2010, 04:17 PM

Buenos Aires (Alvear street and many others in recoleta zone)
Mexico City (Masaryk street)
Sao Paulo ( i dont remember the name)

MarcelowSL

August 8th, 2010, 04:23 PM

George W. Bush

August 8th, 2010, 05:18 PM

@USARG
São Paulo received a large amount of European immigrants, especially from Italy (quite similar to Buenos Aires). But they didn't leave the same imprint on the city's architecture as in Buenos Aires, probably because São Paulo's fierce economic expansion took off decades later, more or less in the 1940s, a time in which the mordernist current already dominated.

Voltico

August 9th, 2010, 12:50 AM

Argentina and Uruguay yes, but chile? OFF COURSE NOT

Brasil and Venezuela received a lot more european inmigrants than chile.

Have a look to the architecture and urbanism of chilean cities and their way of life and compare it to Venezuela...then come back and tell me which country is closer to Europe...

MarcelowSL

August 9th, 2010, 02:41 AM

Have a look to the architecture and urbanism of chilean cities and their way of life and compare it to Venezuela...then come back and tell me which country is closer to Europe...

I was talking about inmigration.. not architecture o urbanism.
Check out the statistics.

Ian

August 9th, 2010, 04:51 AM

This thread is full of well known trolls...

cririquet

August 9th, 2010, 05:10 AM

I was talking about inmigration.. not architecture o urbanism.
Check out the statistics.

:ohno:

SPQR

August 9th, 2010, 05:47 AM

Haha oh man, it didn't take long.

Ian

August 9th, 2010, 05:53 AM

Como un thread sobre calles comerciales de alto nivel se transforma en un thread de inmigracion???, Solo un latinoamericano puede lograrlo :lol:

Rekarte

August 9th, 2010, 11:18 AM

I hate luxury
luxury only in europe and north america
go away of here!

MarcelowSL

August 9th, 2010, 03:47 PM

Como un thread sobre calles comerciales de alto nivel se transforma en un thread de inmigracion???, Solo un latinoamericano puede lograrlo :lol:

Hay que aclarar las cosas. Si viene alguien a decir algo que no es hay que corregirlo. Y no hablo de cosas subjetivas, hay que hablar con los datos, las estadisticas. No decir " a uruguay, chile y argentina" llegaron todos los inmigrantes europeos a sudamerica porque eso no es en lo absoluto cierto. Es obvio que despues saldran los chilenos a decir que odio a chile porque no estoy de acuerdo en que son una nacion europea pero hay que decir la verdad, mas alla de la arquitectura y sus ciudades germanas patagonicas practicamente a chile llegaron menos de 1/4 parte de los inmigrantes que llegaron a venezuela y un grano de arena si lo comparamos con Brasil. Les guste o no, si quieren pensar que odio a chile por decir eso, alla ustedes que son tan basicos para tener ese pensamiento tan tonto.

Adios.

Guille22

August 11th, 2010, 03:39 PM

Hay que aclarar las cosas. Si viene alguien a decir algo que no es hay que corregirlo. Y no hablo de cosas subjetivas, hay que hablar con los datos, las estadisticas. No decir " a uruguay, chile y argentina" llegaron todos los inmigrantes europeos a sudamerica porque eso no es en lo absoluto cierto. Es obvio que despues saldran los chilenos a decir que odio a chile porque no estoy de acuerdo en que son una nacion europea pero hay que decir la verdad, mas alla de la arquitectura y sus ciudades germanas patagonicas practicamente a chile llegaron menos de 1/4 parte de los inmigrantes que llegaron a venezuela y un grano de arena si lo comparamos con Brasil. Les guste o no, si quieren pensar que odio a chile por decir eso, alla ustedes que son tan basicos para tener ese pensamiento tan tonto.

Adios.
^^^^ Corregir algo que no es correcto segun quien? vos? Que comentarios mas ignorantes y pateticos se leen por aqui. Que edad tenis? Ya se que eres un peruano haciendose pasar por argentino con el solo fin de hacer problemas entre chilenos y argentinos. Tu pensamiento si que es bien basico y resentido, pero por suerte no hablas por la mayoria de tus compatriotas que estimo mucho. Si no te gusta que alguien te ponga en tu lugar, alla vos, mejor anda a meterte a un foro infantil.

People,sorry for going off topic but I don't like it when trolls like "MarcelowSL" talk crap.
By the way this guy is NOT Argentinean he's actually a Peruvian, which explains why he's got so much hatred towards Chile. Hey, he's probably living in Chile right now, crapping on the hand that feeds him. LoL

Lets continue with this interesting thread.

Chao

USARG

August 13th, 2010, 01:08 AM

I COMPLETLY AGREED WITH GUILLE22.TO SEE WHAT CONTINENT INFLUENCED LATINAMERICA LETS THE ARQUITECTURE TALK BY ITSELF!

DEJEMOS QUE LA ARQUITECTURA DE CADA PAIS LATINOAMERICANO NOS DIGA DE DONDE VIENE LA INFLUENCIA DE ESE PAIS!

brazilteen

August 13th, 2010, 01:34 AM

Iguatemi Mall são paulo Brazil

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Villa lobos mall São Paulo brazil

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Bourbon Mall São Paulo Brazil

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Shopping Cidade Jardim São Paulo Brazil

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Midway mall Natal Brazil

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Market place mall São Paulo

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USARG

August 13th, 2010, 09:40 AM

^^^^
YEAP..... IT LOOKS LIKE PARIS !!:nuts:

MarcelowSL

August 13th, 2010, 02:08 PM

^^^^ Corregir algo que no es correcto segun quien? vos? Que comentarios mas ignorantes y pateticos se leen por aqui. Que edad tenis? Es una lastima que todavia queden argentinos como vos que se les llena la boca de baba halando estupideces de que nosotros tenemos mas Europeos que ustedes, que este otro pais tiene mas indios, etc. Tu pensamiento no puede ser mas tercermundista. Vos crees que vivis en la Europa? date una vueltecita por el interior y despues me contas,ok. Tu pensamiento si que es bien basico y resentido, pero por suerte no hablas por la mayoria de tus compatriotas que estimo mucho. Si no te gusta que alguien te ponga en tu lugar, alla vos, mejor anda a meterte a un foro infantil.

People,sorry for going off topic but I don't like it when trolls like "MarcelowSL" talk crap.

Lets continue with this interesting thread.

Chao

Segun las estadisticas. ¿ cuantos europeos llegaron a chile? cuantos llegaron a venezuela o a brasil? antes de decir que a sudamerica todos los europeos llegaron a chile, argentina y uruguay como dijo USAARG hay que saber las estadisticas para no pasar por ignorante.

Ciudades como Lima, Santo Domingo y La Habana tienen sendos centros historicos de arquitectura española y eso no significa que los pobladores de esas ciudades sean españoles la mayoria.

isakres

August 16th, 2010, 03:47 AM

^^^^
YEAP..... IT LOOKS LIKE PARIS !!:nuts:

+1

Those are malls, not luxury shopping streets.

brazilteen

August 16th, 2010, 03:59 AM

HA HA HA ^^HAVE YOU EVER ENTERED IN CIDADE JARDIM OR IGUATEMI? THERE ARE EXCLUSIVE STORES OF FASHIONISTS

isakres

August 16th, 2010, 05:37 AM

edited

LtBk

August 16th, 2010, 06:25 AM

EDIT:NVM

Klugermann

August 16th, 2010, 07:26 AM

Av. Alonso de Córdova - Santiago, Chile

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pangeat

January 7th, 2011, 01:46 PM

Segun las estadisticas. ¿ cuantos europeos llegaron a chile? cuantos llegaron a venezuela o a brasil? antes de decir que a sudamerica todos los europeos llegaron a chile, argentina y uruguay como dijo USAARG hay que saber las estadisticas para no pasar por ignorante.

Ciudades como Lima, Santo Domingo y La Habana tienen sendos centros historicos de arquitectura española y eso no significa que los pobladores de esas ciudades sean españoles la mayoria.

Hola amigos, creo que nos hemos ido un poco del hilo que trata de calles del lujo en América latina. para zanjar este debate nada mejor que echar mano de un poco de rigor histórico. El archivo de Salamanca en España contiene datos muy interesantes sobre el flujo migratorio desde Europa hacia las Américas (obviamente Mesoamérica y Sudamérica). Y la verdad histórica es que el porcentaje de inmigración europea en Chile es superior a la de venezuela de forma muy considerable, y similar a la de Argentina y Uruguay. Es cierto que en la etapa republicana tanto Venezuela como Chile reciben a muchos ciudadanos europeos de diferentes Estados en porcentajes similares, pero hay dos hechos diferenciales. El primero es que en el momento de su independencia el porcentaje de la población chilena criolla era muy superior en Chile que la proporción de criollos sobre la población de Venezuela, hasta diez veces más, fundamentalmente española. El segundo hecho es que en la época republicana ambos Estados reciben población europea regularmente, pero ya no solo española, flujo que no se interrumpe, especialmente en el siglo XX. En el caso de Venezuela hay una presencia significativa de portugueses e italianos, en el caso de Chile también hay italianos, pero también un flujo considerable de centroeuropeos, y en menor medida, británicos y franceses. En suma, Chile tiene una proporción muy elevada de población de orígen europeo, con un mestizaje importante, lo que es positivo, comparable al de sus vecinos del cono sur. Eso explica la diferencia de arquitecturas y de urbanismos hasta cierto punto, ya que el crecimiento enorme de las metropolis latinoamericanas se ha producido sobre todo en el siglo XX, y las influencias son muy heterogéneas. Aun así confieso que cuando paseo por Buenos Aires hay zonas que evocan inequivocamente a París, o a Madrid, o a Nápoles, pero son indiscutiblemente argentinas, con su propio encanto. Y en Montevideo y Santiago me ocurre un poco lo mismo. Eso no quita para que La Habana, Lima, Quito, Antigua, Cuzco, Cartagena, Potosí, etc tengan una riqueza arquitectónica indiscutible, pero el esplendor de la Habana comienza casi 150 años antes que el de Buenos Aires, igual que el de Lima, y ese esplendor lo refleja la arquitectura de la época que es el virreinal, primero barroco y luego neoclásico, que es hispánico y no solo español, ya que contiene influencias locales que lo hacen único. Muchas de estas ciudades se vieron enriquecidas aun más en la época republicana

Con esto quiero decir que ano hace falta una tienda de Louis Vuitton para que una avenida sea espléndida, pero esto sé que es muy subjetivo. En América Latina tenemos ciudades magníficas, a las que hay que pulir un poc para que brillen, sin renunciar a la modernidad. ¡Fuera complejos!

Todo esto sea dicho con el máximo respeto a las opiniones que habeis expresado. Un saludo a todos.

20v

January 11th, 2011, 02:30 AM

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eklips

January 11th, 2011, 11:25 AM

^^ So many photos just to show that people in Sao Paulo are (supposedly) so rich and white ...

20v

January 11th, 2011, 03:26 PM

^^ So many photos just to show that people in Sao Paulo are (supposedly) so rich and white ...

Just read the purpose of the thread... look I'm not racist if the majority people you see walking the street are white what can we do? of course the avenue is focus on rich people no matter if they are black or white but Brazilian population is not that you see in the football team... its just like judging ethnic groups in France by the French football team... the difference is that France is a country much more known than Brazil is so many people around the world see Brazil only in the football team and they think most of brazilian population is composed by black people... can you judge the ethnic groups in Usa only seeing the basketball team? this is the point basketball is the most popular sport in Usa as well as football is the most popular in Brazil so it is normal that the poorest part of the population has access to these sports. anyway you must be the kind of people who lives in the "first world" and thinks Brazil is a giant forest with monkeys jumping all around. And I guess if the photos were in Paris you have not seen any problem:ohno:

..Polkator..

January 12th, 2011, 08:15 PM

^^ So many photos just to show that people in Sao Paulo are (supposedly) so rich and white ...

+1 :nuts:

..Polkator..

January 12th, 2011, 08:18 PM

Lamborghini Monterrey, Calzada San Pedro
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Alexpilsen

January 12th, 2011, 09:01 PM

Some Street Life in Oscar Freire Street in Sao Paulo, Latin America's most luxury street! :nuts:

Photos by Tchello Forumer

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pedromarga

January 13th, 2011, 04:44 PM

^^ So many photos just to show that people in Sao Paulo are (supposedly) so rich and white ...
This pictures were taken by tchello forumer who likes to show not only the buildings but also the people from all São Paulo neighborhoods. He has a thread where all of his photos are mapped, you can check here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1103401). If you want to see poverty, mid class, black, asian, slums, etc just ask for it, but this thread is about luxury shopping streets and it's hard to find poverty (and black people, that are mainly poor because of historic reasons) in places like this.

But I agree with you that he could have posted less pictures.

intensivecarebear

January 14th, 2011, 12:49 AM

^^the richest parts of Brazil, or any latin American country, are going to be mostly white. Shouldn't surprise anyone bc of historic reasons like you said

Suburbanist

January 15th, 2011, 02:47 PM

^^ That is why I don't like, personally, picture collections showing people as their most important element. Unless it is a fashion magazine, of course. Other than that, better leave buildings without intruding people, or to have buildings that obliterate people around them ;)

Ricbit

January 21st, 2011, 09:51 PM

Luli Pop

January 27th, 2011, 01:17 PM

Even with luxury brands Freire st doesnt look classy at all.

I was taken there by a paulista friend; he wanted to impress me but my impression was totally negative. It's a nice place to hang out but I wouldnt consider it classy even if the cheapest item were at 1.000.000 euros. At least Id consider it expensive and pretentious, but not classy.

Nazarik and the one in Santiago; they look soooo suburban.

brazilteen

January 28th, 2011, 07:55 AM

Oh thank you to make me figure out that my english is so old fashioned and STREET now is the same of MALL ^^ I'm really glad, just wanna know how to greet you :yes:

Alvear and Alonso de Cordova are the best ;)

I'm sorry I didn't read the name of the thread I just saw some pictures and I thought it was to post pictures of shopping places in Latin America.....hahaha I know that street is not the same thing of mall

minba

January 28th, 2011, 08:17 AM

^^ So many photos just to show that people in Sao Paulo are (supposedly) so rich and white ...

That's a rather racist remark towards people of white/european decent my friend. Im colorblind, maybe you should be that too.

Luli Pop

January 28th, 2011, 09:16 PM

I felt discriminized for being white also.

this is south South America, people is like that.

renie

January 30th, 2011, 12:34 AM

I felt discriminized for being white also.

this is south South America, people is like that.

Yes, there is continual discrimination against the white. We should be color blind and keep to the topic which is the existence of good shopping areas or streets.
Strange to keep to malls which are not the only places you can shop for nice items here in Brazil. Porto alegre has a very nice area which is centered on a street called "Padre Chagas". It not only has very nice stores but cafes and restaurants where people of all ages, families included stroll and visit till the wee hours of the morning. Soon hope to add photos of this area to this thread if there is still a chance. Just couldn´t leave this without being said for Brazil...

Occit

January 30th, 2011, 05:27 AM

Those people in the pics look very arrogant and unfriendly... i hope never being there!!! :ohno:

Suburbanist

January 30th, 2011, 12:21 PM

Those people in the pics look very arrogant and unfriendly... i hope never being there!!!

Geez, how can one judge the "friendliness" of someone else by looking at a casual picture! The above statement is prejudice as best, IMO - they are "white", they wear expensive clothes/accessories, they ought to be arrogant and ready to spit on me if I dare to ask them where is the store xyz or the intersection abc. :nuts:

Occit

January 31st, 2011, 12:47 AM

Geez, how can one judge the "friendliness" of someone else by looking at a casual picture! The above statement is prejudice as best, IMO - they are "white", they wear expensive clothes/accessories, they ought to be arrogant and ready to spit on me if I dare to ask them where is the store xyz or the intersection abc. :nuts:

That probably happen :yes:

OCPagu

January 31st, 2011, 01:08 AM

Those people in the pics look very arrogant and unfriendly... i hope never being there!!! :ohno:

And you are absolutely right. São Paulo has been cursed with the worst kind of elite a place can have.

Suburbanist

January 31st, 2011, 06:45 PM

That probably happen :yes:

This is just prejudice. Unless one is seen as a threat (e.g., a potential robber or beggar), no one will mistreat you. At most, they will answer your question then ignore you. Like in Europe or other more developed place where people are not keen to socialize just because somebody happen to interrupt them to ask for hours or directions - which is, in my very personal opinion, one of the worst aspects in dealing with unwarranted social interactions in most of Latin America: there is less respect for your personal space and your right not to interact with strangers just because occasion (a waiting line, a casual encounter, a commercial interaction) put two or more people together.

ngfede

January 31st, 2011, 07:18 PM

This is just prejudice. Unless one is seen as a threat (e.g., a potential robber or beggar), no one will mistreat you. At most, they will answer your question then ignore you. Like in Europe or other more developed place where people are not keen to socialize just because somebody happen to interrupt them to ask for hours or directions - which is, in my very personal opinion, one of the worst aspects in dealing with unwarranted social interactions in most of Latin America: there is less respect for your personal space and your right not to interact with strangers just because occasion (a waiting line, a casual encounter, a commercial interaction) put two or more people together.

warm people, depend in your personality, but too much "foreign" people like warm people, is good to go to another country and discover it talking and having relations with those people in a natural form, and not only with turistic informers.

about rich people, yes, it's happen in all countries around the world but the best is avoid them

about the thread, I really think that Alvear Avenue will be very difficult to beat, it's not only have luxury commerces, it's have luxury about his buildings, palaces, old and high class architecture, it's like more like a "living museum avenue", even, if you walk it, you surely will keep you sight on the high, in the buildings, more than in the street (sorry my english hope you understand :D)

Lost Cosmonaut

February 1st, 2011, 09:23 PM

Extremely third worldish thread...ahahahahaa

No Change No Future

February 3rd, 2011, 04:14 AM

Just read the purpose of the thread... look I'm not racist if the majority people you see walking the street are white what can we do? of course the avenue is focus on rich people no matter if they are black or white but Brazilian population is not that you see in the football team... its just like judging ethnic groups in France by the French football team... the difference is that France is a country much more known than Brazil is so many people around the world see Brazil only in the football team and they think most of brazilian population is composed by black people... can you judge the ethnic groups in Usa only seeing the basketball team? this is the point basketball is the most popular sport in Usa as well as football is the most popular in Brazil so it is normal that the poorest part of the population has access to these sports. anyway you must be the kind of people who lives in the "first world" and thinks Brazil is a giant forest with monkeys jumping all around. And I guess if the photos were in Paris you have not seen any problem:ohno:

Brother, as a fellow latin american I can't tell you how wrong you are, it's not cool to be white, or to be populated by rich white people in rich areas, that doesn't show our development, be proud of what we truly are, brown, mixed, indigenous people, that is our real value and culture, not a dumb imitation of europe and america to create an illusion of wealth, our real wealth isn't material, please don't think that showing pictures of caucasians in a trendy shopping area is any sign of being a first world country.

Lost Cosmonaut

February 3rd, 2011, 12:53 PM

^^ What a bunch of crap! So if I'm white I'm not Latin-American? What you mean by "real culture"? There is not a typical Latin-American culture, we are different from one another. You should be ashamed for writing such non-sense.

Suburbanist

February 3rd, 2011, 01:06 PM

Brother, as a fellow latin american I can't tell you how wrong you are, it's not cool to be white, or to be populated by rich white people in rich areas, that doesn't show our development, be proud of what we truly are, brown, mixed, indigenous people, that is our real value and culture, not a dumb imitation of europe and america to create an illusion of wealth, our real wealth isn't material, please don't think that showing pictures of caucasians in a trendy shopping area is any sign of being a first world country.

One of the most prejudicial posts I ever read here. Let me rephrase it, FOR THE SAKE OF THE ARGUMENT (it's not my opinion, just a language exercise), changing the poles of your strings:

Brother, as a fellow Latin American I can't tell you how wrong you are, it's not cool to be mestizo, or to be populated by poor mixed-race people in slums, that doesn't show our development, be proud of what we truly are, white descents of European ethnicity, that is our real value and culture, not a dumb imitators of local aboriginals and African slaves [trying to] create an illusion of authenticity and localism, please don't think that showing pictures of brown people in a farmer market area is any sing of being a nice country

How do you like it now?

Seriously, your post is full of prejudice (reverse-prejudice, if you want), bigotry and a double hurtful assumption:

(a) Whites/Caucasians are not truly part of Latin America
(b) Prosperity and 'material wealth' cannot be found in Latin America.

ngfede

February 3rd, 2011, 10:49 PM

it's seem like so many people doesn't know that america (all) was settled by europeans, and even in the last centuries, during the wars and others problems, the inmigration make the ports "explode" of filled ships.... every country has his different history.

In my Argentina, the inmigration penetration was very big, no less than 90% of total population here has european origins, all the original people was killed (do you listen about Desert Campaign here?), and the black people, slaves, they were send to the war with the promess if they win they will be free... all deads... its not good or bad, its the history and each country has his own character
Hopefully we still have a lot of original culture that cannot be destroyed, in places in the north, Tobas, Aimaras, etcs, im proud you see them in my country, in HIS country, they are originals, we not.

each time I read some people I see how deep penetrates the hollywood culture on the world creating fake images of the people around the world, so sad

minba

February 8th, 2011, 02:40 PM

old school

February 11th, 2011, 02:37 AM

One of the most prejudicial posts I ever read here. Let me rephrase it, FOR THE SAKE OF THE ARGUMENT (it's not my opinion, just a language exercise), changing the poles of your strings:

How do you like it now?

Seriously, your post is full of prejudice (reverse-prejudice, if you want), bigotry and a double hurtful assumption:

(a) Whites/Caucasians are not truly part of Latin America
(b) Prosperity and 'material wealth' cannot be found in Latin America.

What's this, political correctness by conservatives?

USARG

February 11th, 2011, 10:02 AM

BUENOS AIRES IS THE ONLY CITY IN LATIN AMERICA WITH SUCH SIMILAR LUXURY AS AVE.MONTAIGNE IN PARIS=ALVEAR AVE.,MADISON AVE.IN NEW YORK=ARENALES & QUINTANA AVE. AND 5ta.AVE. OR 57th.STREET IN NYC= SANTA FE AVE.OR POSADAS STREET.TOTAL ELEGANCE TO THE TOP!

masterchivas

February 12th, 2011, 06:38 PM

Just read the purpose of the thread... look I'm not racist if the majority people you see walking the street are white what can we do? of course the avenue is focus on rich people no matter if they are black or white but Brazilian population is not that you see in the football team... its just like judging ethnic groups in France by the French football team... the difference is that France is a country much more known than Brazil is so many people around the world see Brazil only in the football team and they think most of brazilian population is composed by black people... can you judge the ethnic groups in Usa only seeing the basketball team? this is the point basketball is the most popular sport in Usa as well as football is the most popular in Brazil so it is normal that the poorest part of the population has access to these sports. anyway you must be the kind of people who lives in the "first world" and thinks Brazil is a giant forest with monkeys jumping all around. And I guess if the photos were in Paris you have not seen any problem:ohno:

WOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWW..... American Football is the most popular sport in the US. if not Baseball.. but Basketball surely ranks 3d or 4th after Hockey...

Hia-leah JDM

February 13th, 2011, 08:42 AM

^^ No. The NBA is very clearly number 2. Hockey comes in a distant 4th.

Suburbanist

February 13th, 2011, 11:05 AM

What's this, political correctness by conservatives?

The other guy was plain racist saying that whites have no place in Latin America which would be a "mixed-brown" continent only.

diablo234

February 14th, 2011, 01:54 AM

Occit

February 14th, 2011, 06:25 AM

gabrielbabb

February 15th, 2011, 06:16 AM

Some shops in Presidente Masaryk Avenue in MXCity
BVLGARY, MONTBLANC, Max Mara etc.

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Suburbanist

February 16th, 2011, 02:18 PM

Caracas does not have that kind of luxury streets, because we are more than 70% mixed and our GINI is the best in latinamerica so you can find all together in a same place, luxury shops and poor shops, anything mixed, not segregated like Brazil :D

It doesn't matter to have a low Gini if you have not much income to distribute anyway. Gini's index is just part of the history. Uber-poor countries in Africa sometimes have low Gini's also. What is the good point about having everybody poor, whilst the poverty is more evenly spread out? Nothing!

Just look at Cuba: impoverished, deluded, massacred by a family-run dictatorship, yet as they don't take for granted normal goods like microwaves or high-speed internet, their Gini is low. And they are eating less than average 1.800 kcal/day for 20 years.

Bottom line is: there is not point on having a low Gini if you don't have wealth to be distributed. And the Venezuelan bolivarian dictatorship have perfected the art of dismantling once busting and vibrant private sectors of the economy under a statism-oriented policy that failed everywhere it was tried. It crippled PDVSA ability to explore oil, transformed a once well regarded oil company into a bureaucratic monster to bypass Legislative control of public budget funds. It is destroying the once-thriving commodity-based Agriculture, and promoting "land reforms" that doesn't spare Venezuelans from run-of-the-mill staples and groceries shortages (only to pathetically nationalize supermarkets as it would solve a supply problem). Caracas has arguably one of the top-3 highest violent crime rates among Latin American capital cities. How does a low Gini help, or not, solve such problems? It doesn't.

snydermex

March 6th, 2011, 04:23 AM

A few more photos:

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Those pictures are not from Masaryk, they are from the neighboring street of Horacio, just one block north from Masaryk.

FloripaNation

March 6th, 2011, 05:52 AM

PeterKL

March 6th, 2011, 05:09 PM

Indeed, I read that the Oscar Freire is more profitable. But i wonder if that is because this street has to ''serve'' a country the size of Brazil, while perhaps in Mexico or Argentina there are other streets with shops of this kind, in other large cities. I mean, over here in Florianópolis, the '''''St, Tropez""" of Brazil, the most expensive shop you can find is Authentic, in a shopping, where you can find a Ralph Lauren or Lacoste shirt for 450 reais (for men, that is).

brazilteen

March 6th, 2011, 05:25 PM

^^ In Usa a tshirt of Ralph Lauren is around 30 dollars or 40 dollars if it isn't on sale....So why are the things SO EXPENSIVE IN BRAZIL....where are all those taxes that we pay going ???????????????????

snydermex

March 7th, 2011, 09:47 PM

Thers big a difference that make the Oscar Freire street be most expensive place in LA than the other streets pictured here (Buenos Aires/Mexico City...).

Lot of people buying, buying.... The shops here are more profitable than the other LA streets. Compare it, the streets here are crowded of rich people buying.

Well, Presidente Masaryk is a street of 3 kilometers, even longer than the famous Champs Elyseés or the more luxurious streets of Rue Montaigne or Rue Fauburg Saint Honoré, so it is dificult to walk it all its way long.
Besides, Mexico City has another luxury street in the south part of the city: Altavista, a deep colonial street in the heart of San Angel district.

Also it is not common for rich mexicans to walk in the city, they rather use their luxury cars with chaffeur.

isakres

March 8th, 2011, 04:18 PM

As been posted, Monterrey does also have a luxury shopping street with a decent amount of Luxury shops.

Plus, we (the norteños) always have the option to cross the border and buy on the American side at bargaining prices.......althought I must say, the premium shopping is a bit limited on the American side (Calvin Klein, Lacoste, Ralph Laurent, etc) and most of the shops are actually outlets (Neiman Marcus, Armani, Boss, etc).

old school

March 8th, 2011, 05:27 PM

As been posted, Monterrey does also have a luxury shopping streets with a decent amount of Luxury shops.

Plus, we (the norteños) always have the option to cross the border and buy on the American side at bargaining prices.......althought I must say, the premium shopping is a bit limited on the American side (Calvin Klein, Lacoste, Ralph Laurent, etc) and most of the shops are actually outlets (Neiman Marcus, Armani, Boss, etc).

Are you talking about Houston????
Limited shopping:nuts::nuts:

isakres

March 8th, 2011, 06:10 PM

Are you talking about Houston????
Limited shopping:nuts::nuts:

I was talking about San Antonio / San Marcos and southern towns closer to the border (like Mc Allen, Laredo, Brownsville, Harlingen) which are the usual shopping spots for us in Monterrey. Houston is a bit far and we can get most of the luxury brands here in the city.

Must say, Rodeo Drive is an amazing option for luxury shopping close to TJ, but this thread is about Latinamerica.

Cheers bud.

isakres

March 8th, 2011, 06:26 PM

old school

March 8th, 2011, 10:14 PM

I was talking about San Antonio / San Marcos and southern towns closer to the border (like Mc Allen, Laredo, Brownsville, Harlingen) which are the usual shopping spots for us in Monterrey. Houston is a bit far and we can get most of the luxury brands here in the city.

Must say, Rodeo Drive is an amazing option for luxury shopping close to TJ, but this thread is about Latinamerica.

Cheers bud.

Thanks, I see you were talking about the border towns which are among the poorest in the US of A.

Salud, compadre!!

isakres

March 8th, 2011, 10:40 PM

Edited,

gutooo

March 10th, 2011, 12:34 AM

Oscar Freire is nice, but its not as stylish or beautiful as the other luxury shop streets around the world.

It was never meant to be a luxury shop street, but it has been renovated so its better.

The best places in São Paulo are inside malls, Iguatemi and Cidade Jardim.

snydermex

March 11th, 2011, 02:20 AM

rfamilyguy23

March 17th, 2011, 01:16 AM

^^

The thread is about luxury shopping streets, not about malls, because in that case Mexico City has Antara as the premier luxury shopping mall followed by Paseo Arcos Bosques, Parque Duraznos, Centro Santa Fe and Perisur.

The same case is with Tijuana and South Coast Plaza at the other side of the border.

The guy was not trying to change the subject. He was just saying that in Sao Paulo's case the high scale stores are more present in the malls than in one specific street. Anyway, luxury shopping streets are way over rated. Who cares? A city can be great whether its high-end stores are mostly in the malls or in the wide open air.

Caravaggio

November 24th, 2011, 07:29 AM

Avenue Masaryk is far from being luxurious grant it the concentration of luxury stores is great but the avenue itself isn't very beautiful. Latin America is a long way from having truly luxurious shopping streets.

Eunice824

November 24th, 2011, 07:36 AM

Are those 'luxury' shopping streets? They looks just like regular shopping streets for the local people. But maybe that is all they have in Latin/South America. It is a shame they have to make luxury malls instead. Hopefully one day a city can attract the rich and tourists to a more urban street setting.

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FAAN

January 19th, 2012, 07:36 AM

In Belem, Brazil, the Visconde de Souza Franco Avenue known as "Docas", has the most luxurious shopping of the city (one of the most modern in Brazil), numerous international brands, fast foods recognized around the world, and many buildings with more than 100 meters as the Village Mon and Village Sun, two twin buildings at 130 feet tall and 45 floors. And I would say that this resembles Avenue to 5th Avenue.

isakres

January 19th, 2012, 07:38 AM

^^ Dude Im your fan :okay:

Really.

I(L)WTC

January 19th, 2012, 07:39 AM

Alvear Avenue! The most european avenue in Latinamerica XD