it is quite disgusting but i have to share this with my fellow bloggers and forumers in 2 hours ago i have been racially attacked by indian gangs who are taxi drivers on my way home from school tonight in kuala lumpur. my only mistake was to refuse to pay the inflated taxi fare

the unfortunate part is when you know the people who attacked but they is nothing you can do about it because your foreigner i can say this is barbaric and primitive behaviour which you rarely face in part of africa regardless of your skin colour. if your unlucky you may face one or two theft cases which is normal worldwide due to our african culture we normally accord utmost respect to any visitor in our countries even if we have our thousand and one problems but nobody gave credit for that what is your take on this everybody can give his opinion

^^ nikurudi tu nitajinja muhindi yeyote nikikutana na yeye:lol::lol: just kidding

Seriously, I think that people here ( and rest of Asia ) must do lots of reading & learn more about different culture , most of them are really dumb about world happening & world cultures , since they just work, work and work and spend time with family ! Their life is so boring.

When your mind broadens globally, for sure you would treat foreigners very nicely.

Seriously, I think that people here ( and rest of Asia ) must do lots of reading & learn more about different culture , most of them are really dumb about world happening & world cultures , since they just work, work and work and spend time with family ! Their life is so boring.

When your mind broadens globally, for sure you would treat foreigners very nicely.

Well I would have to add to that. I was on company placement in Singapore for 6 months 2 years ago, I found Asians to be very welcoming and nice people. What I also noticed is that I was treated better than the average singaporean simply because I am white even though I am african :-D. On the other hand, they really believe that blacks are inferior beings and a friend even went as far as telling me that parents even scare kids by telling them that if they don't behave correctly, an african man will come get them. Funny enough, I have seen quite a few african faces in Asia, which I really did not expect at all.

I have noticed a peculiar behaviour coming from some Singaporeans and Malaysians. The ones in Oz think they are all better than us - Indian ones mostly. Than again, most people down here are insecure of themselves and always try to hate on others to make themselves feel better. Its sad because at the end of the day, they always come back trying to kiss ass once they realise that am indifferent to them.

rudi kwenu what are you doing in Kuala lumpur anyway? its sad but i think some of this places are better to avoid and let them be. thats one battle you will never win. come back home.

@ Yazoo and KQV,

East and Southeast Asians are generally soft, peaceful and welcoming but most of them are rather "blind" about world issues and have very little knowledge about Africa ; and that explains why its so hard for foreign students, especially from Middle East and Africa, to make good friendship or to have fun chatting with them. In the end, there is "ghettoing" of foreigners only among their own groups.

But really, most of my African friends in Kuala Lumpur did complain about "Indian" gangs and many actually had bad experience with them.

Africans always experience hate from other races because they fiil that we inferior and that's because of the way we run our affairs in Africa. It's sad but true that we are the most hated human species in the world. It's unfortunate that we are led by people who do not care about proving to the world that Africans are capable.

It's sad but true that we are the most hated human species in the world.

Although they're not a race nor a species I think disabled people are the ones facing the strongest discrimination accross the world.

the indian community will usually be the first to cry discrimination, especially in countries where they are the minority. it's hard to believe considering they are the ones owning most of the businesses and taking most of the local jobs.

they migrate to foreign countries then build their own community, families, businesses, language, etc. very rarely will they contribute to the state rather build their own state within a state. they don't mix with local population and contribute little to the local community. the community doesn't want to be indianized, we want our own foods, customs, language, culture and etc. these people need to appreciate their hosts more, respect our people, and stop thinking they are better than us.

Although they're not a race nor a species I think disabled people are the ones facing the strongest discrimination accross the world.

Now put black and disabled together; crazy, I tell you!

Black, disabled, seropositive, gay, muslim and communist

Sad!

these people need to appreciate their hosts more, respect our people, and stop thinking they are better than us.

:applause:

I have noticed a peculiar behaviour coming from some Singaporeans and Malaysians. The ones in Oz think they are all better than us - Indian ones mostly. Than again, most people down here are insecure of themselves and always try to hate on others to make themselves feel better. Its sad because at the end of the day, they always come back trying to kiss ass once they realise that am indifferent to them.

A lot of the Indian attitude towards blacks come from their own inferiority complex vis-a-vis whites. It's well known that Indian society has a color complex and some of them try to impose this on blacks. It's sad that so many people want to find someone to spit on.

Some Indian-Kenyans have even written about exactly this.

I have noticed a peculiar behaviour coming from some Singaporeans and Malaysians. The ones in Oz think they are all better than us - Indian ones mostly.

A lot of the Indian attitude towards blacks come from their own inferiority complex vis-a-vis whites. It's well known that Indian society has a color complex and some of them try to impose this on blacks. It's sad that so many people want to find someone to spit on.

Some Indian-Kenyans have even written about exactly this.

I couldn't agree more, I recently viewed several viral AD videos from youtube about the indian subcontinent's public obsession with 'whiteness' and it was just astounding the levels that people can go to tip the scales.

it is quite disgusting but i have to share this with my fellow bloggers and forumers in 2 hours ago i have been racially attacked by indian gangs who are taxi drivers on my way home from school tonight in kuala lumpur. my only mistake was to refuse to pay the inflated taxi fare


So isn't that the problem? What has race got to do with it?

the indian! I think their attitude is influenced by their religious beliefs, which I feel are inferior to african ones.

A lot of the Indian attitude towards blacks come from their own inferiority complex vis-a-vis whites. It's well known that Indian society has a color complex and some of them try to impose this on blacks. It's sad that so many people want to find someone to spit on.

Some Indian-Kenyans have even written about exactly this.

Spot on. I grew up with Pakistanis and Indians in the UK and your assessment is correct. The mother of a friend of mine told her she would commit suicide if we ever got together. Chinese people arent any way near as bad. They would "get over it" if their relative married a black person. South Asians would NEVER accept it.

^^true, generally in Malaysia they have different attitudes towards black people if you consider the Tamil ladies they are the most outgoing ladies in whole Malaysia, damn their men are the most hateful towards black people:bash: the Chinese are the most liberal people in that country, your safe both racial attack and wrongful arrests if your dating Chinese women:cheers:

the Malays are very closed minded people very rare to interact with outsiders regardless of their country of origin even in schools they sit separate rows from the rest of students:lol: but if your Muslim and your intentions are marriage no problem:lol: but for any other business your in trouble ask the Nigerians refused to accept it while the rest of international community moved on, boy a lot of them find themselves in trouble:bash:

Interesting that Indians gangs are discriminating against other groups when if I'm not mistaken the Indian population are complaining that they are being discriminated by the Malays.could it be that the Indian group feel that attacking others make them feel better. If I'm not mistaken the Indian government had logged an official complain at the Malaysian government about discrimination of the Indian ethnic group in Malaysia.aren't the Indians considered 2nd class Citizens In Malaysia. I could be wrong.@ Yazoo and KQV,

East and Southeast Asians are generally soft, peaceful and welcoming but most of them are rather "blind" about world issues and have very little knowledge about Africa ; and that explains why its so hard for foreign students, especially from Middle East and Africa, to make good friendship or to have fun chatting with them. In the end, there is "ghettoing" of foreigners only among their own groups.

But really, most of my African friends in Kuala Lumpur did complain about "Indian" gangs and many actually had bad experience with them.

Spot on. I grew up with Pakistanis and Indians in the UK and your assessment is correct. The mother of a friend of mine told her she would commit suicide if we ever got together. Chinese people arent any way near as bad. They would "get over it" if their relative married a black person. South Asians would NEVER accept it.

In Vancouver, Canada, there are many black men dating east asian women(Chinese, Korean etc.) but I haven't seen any east indian women going out with black men.

A lot of the Indian attitude towards blacks come from their own inferiority complex vis-a-vis whites. It's well known that Indian society has a color complex and some of them try to impose this on blacks. It's sad that so many people want to find someone to spit on.

Some Indian-Kenyans have even written about exactly this.
You are %100 right but you are missing the most dangerous reason why they will never mix with blacks, its called religion. I don't know of you have ever heard of hanuman he was either the second most powerfully God or something to that affect. In anycase as the story goes he rose up against another God and was defeated and burnt hence the black color and hair type. He then fled to Africa so now Indians consider blacks descendents of hanuman. Indians will vehemently deny this story is part of their Hindu religion. Now add this to the Indian his own inferiorty complex and you have an ingrained discrimination set in stone. No Indian will ever admit this.
With the Chinese discrimation has mainly to do with ignorance that can be addressed.

my 2 cents on this. first of all my complete support with the person who experienced racism in kl.
I am new to skyscrapercity africa and I am Indian.
I do agree and disagree to some of the points raised here.

Yes many of us are a bunch of hypocritic people, they cry racism when we are the offenders ourselves. no denying it. and that is wrong.

but some one said that we dont contribute to the economy of the place we live in. I dont know about other countries but here in UK where I live, if at all we begin to count the number of people in full fledged jobs here and not those living on benifits, Indians are rightup there.

If at all any of you happen to visit UK, make a trip to those council offices any time and see how many indians are there living on state benifits( i mean indians, dont include pakistanis, bangladeshis etc).

we pay taxes, NI everything.

I can say my own story. Even at a time when I was financially insecure with a temp job, and a family to support, we paid our full taxes, NI which almost took 30% of what I used to get.

But all this said, there is no denying the other points what is being said here, Indians are racists. I wish I could change that(I have many friends from Nigeria) but thats something people need to realise themselves here.

This just my experience and point of view.

when can the world ever get rid of racism??? God help us...

Fascinating. I live in the USA (and am black) and have visited both India and Malaysia. Both places were quite friendly and welcoming. Is it because I'm American do you think?

^^^^
i think in every allied nation, citizens have high regards to americans, europeans, tan, black or white altogether, except if you happen to get across with a militant, a purist/conservative, heaven knows how they're called, but i mean those people who don't really like having foreigners around!

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we had three american guests at home last feb who stayed with us for a couple of weeks. they found most people friendly and hospitable, strangely, even in places within the city where we wouldn't normally go to because of their "unfriendly" reputation...

Fascinating. I live in the USA (and am black) and have visited both India and Malaysia. Both places were quite friendly and welcoming. Is it because I'm American do you think?

Even though I believe racial discimination is a little exaggerated at it partains to the US, my thinking is that europe(excluding southern and eastern eurozones) is fairing much better than Obama's USA while Asia because of steriotyping, religo-social conservatism, cultural stigmatization and presence of very few 'blacks' is most probably the worst performer.

I'm Kenyan and have visited India. I found people very friendly, especially in the villages. If anything I'd say the middle class people I met were less welcoming but not rude.The only thing that made me feel like an outsider were two boys who asked if they could take their picture with me but even so, I didn't feel offended at all.

Racism in india is a huge problem, i mean they are racist towards other indians let alone outsiders, they worship white people though, ofcourse i am not talking about all indians but the problem is too huge to ignore. I was watching a documentary that talked about how indians treat their own low caste people, shocking really. India is not a 21th century until it changes it's society.

everyone is racist nowadays,except Africans. . in america i heard the koreans are the worst
they are said to hate everybody,including other asians like chinese and japanese. .

Indians and most other Asians are racist of course. . .

Hispanics in America cant stand white people for the most part

and those in latin America,are racist towards blacks. .

some blacks in america hate whites,and some whites hate blacks

Arabs are also very racist to dark skinned people. .

Italians in europe are known to be hardcore racist. . although their men seem to have a thing for black women

we all know how racist russia and eastern europe is. .

In the UK the racism is btw all groups,blacks hate whites,white hate pakis,pakis hate blacks and so on. . and most blacks that live there tell me ppl will smile in your face while making racial slurs once u turn your back

In france Arabs cant be assimilated into french society. . .

Germany because of its horrible history tries hard to accept everybody,but there are still pockets of neo-nazis and skin-heads in the country

The Japanese hate both black and white,they rarely accept immigrants

Africans it seems are the only ones that accept everybody regardless of skin tone
Maybe it is time we start being a little less trusting as Africans
and deal with these other ppl with as much suspicion as they deserve

Ha ha, we might be headed into a race V race V race V Race V Japanese V Koreans war :lol:

A lot of the Indian attitude towards blacks come from their own inferiority complex vis-a-vis whites. It's well known that Indian society has a color complex and some of them try to impose this on blacks. It's sad that so many people want to find someone to spit on.

Some Indian-Kenyans have even written about exactly this.

The racism might've been inspired by Gandhi himself who was racist against Blacks.

http://www.trinicenter.com/WorldNews/ghandi4.htm

The racism might've been inspired by Gandhi himself who was racist against Blacks.

http://www.trinicenter.com/WorldNews/ghandi4.htm

^^wow, man welcome, finally you come beyond the skybar :) i totally agree your comments, only the Indians and uneducated lot think Gandhi was a saint :) ask the south Africans they will tell you :lol:

everyone is racist nowadays,except Africans. . in america i heard the koreans are the worst
they are said to hate everybody,including other asians like chinese and japanese. .

Indians and most other Asians are racist of course. . .

Hispanics in America cant stand white people for the most part

and those in latin America,are racist towards blacks. .

some blacks in america hate whites,and some whites hate blacks

Arabs are also very racist to dark skinned people. .

Italians in europe are known to be hardcore racist. . although their men seem to have a thing for black women

we all know how racist russia and eastern europe is. .

In the UK the racism is btw all groups,blacks hate whites,white hate pakis,pakis hate blacks and so on. . and most blacks that live there tell me ppl will smile in your face while making racial slurs once u turn your back

In france Arabs cant be assimilated into french society. . .

Germany because of its horrible history tries hard to accept everybody,but there are still pockets of neo-nazis and skin-heads in the country

The Japanese hate both black and white,they rarely accept immigrants

Africans it seems are the only ones that accept everybody regardless of skin tone
Maybe it is time we start being a little less trusting as Africans
and deal with these other ppl with as much suspicion as they deserve

Hehe so true. But I have to say, Africa's problem is that whilst the majority may not be racist, we have problems with tribalism. I find it crazy that one can kill their neighbour, a fellow citizen, because they are from a different tribe. We treat foreigners better than our own people :ohno:

There is racism in the world but also in Africa.

I have read many times here, black Africans saying to white South African to leave South Africa because they are not Africans, they are invaders.
And you also have the case of Zimbabwe.

Now, for the most part I believe that East Asia more than racist is very culturally protective. You may be denied entrance because of being white/black to a place, but that is mostly because the owner had a bad experience. However if you go with a local or speak the language, this is much more unlikely to happen. And also after seeing how some foreigners behave I have to admit that I understand that, and I am foreigner myself....

On the other hand, I never heard of people beating up other because of race in Asia.

Finally, I worked at night in Tokyo and many Nigerians described themselves as being the coolest people in town, and superior to white, Japanese etc etc.

africans not racist:lol::lol:

An American view of life in Kenya:

http://www.utexas.edu/know/2010/05/17/willy_kiptemboi_rotich/

In Kenya, more than half of the 33 million residents bring home barely $1 a day in wages, and many live in cardboard box hovels with no running water, electricity, health care or access to education. Subject to devastating droughts and political instability, the area seems to offer an inauspicious beginning, even for a precocious boy.

This was the same description of countries like China not so long ago. Kenyans, we need to change this, seriously:(

An American view of life in Kenya:

http://www.utexas.edu/know/2010/05/17/willy_kiptemboi_rotich/

In Kenya, more than half of the 33 million residents bring home barely $1 a day in wages, and many live in cardboard box hovels with no running water, electricity, health care or access to education. Subject to devastating droughts and political instability, the area seems to offer an inauspicious beginning, even for a precocious boy.

This was the same description of countries like China not so long ago. Kenyans, we need to change this, seriously:(

Remember there are guys that prosper from this view...how else will some NGO's get cash? You have to paint a really dreadful picture for cash to flow in.

Since Africans are hated in all other continents, we should create an African free trade zone that encourages Africans to trade and invest in the continent while locking out non-Africans. Instead of African parents spending a fortune sending their kids abroad for higher education, they should utilize local universities and use the savings to help their kids buy their first home.

Since Africans are hated in all other continents, we should create an African free trade zone that encourages Africans to trade and invest in the continent while locking out non-Africans. Instead of African parents spending a fortune sending their kids abroad for higher education, they should utilize local universities and use the savings to help their kids buy their first home.

Good point but again Africans are their own worst enemy(I am one), by encouraging corruption, nepotism, greed and impunity; who needs enemies.

Since Africans are hated in all other continents, we should create an African free trade zone that encourages Africans to trade and invest in the continent while locking out non-Africans. Instead of African parents spending a fortune sending their kids abroad for higher education, they should utilize local universities and use the savings to help their kids buy their first home.

EAC is ahead of ya on that one!
I don't think you should lock out non-africans. The least you could do is act how some Asians do and kindly take their money while cursing them behind their backs. This is how you develop a country. :lol:

Good point but again Africans are their own worst enemy(I am one), by encouraging corruption, nepotism, greed and impunity; who needs enemies.Don't worry, nations evolve!Even some countries that are much ahead experienced some of the issues in Africa.

You know what, I've become very interested in KL and Malaysia a lot more lately...I wonder if Desert Burner is still living there...

DesertBurner came back home, he's in Nairobi AFAIK.

Yes, some may prosper from this view but it's nonetheless an accurate observation. The only issue would be on the exact number of people affected. One need not paint a dreadful picture, the real pictures are there for all to see: Mathare, Kibera, Kayole etc.

Remember there are guys that prosper from this view...how else will some NGO's get cash? You have to paint a really dreadful picture for cash to flow in.