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rmcee July 31st, 2009, 02:03 PM Hi,
I'd like to start a topic on the Central / Southern / Eastern Euopean container terminals - small and big ones, new and old, projected and never built.
In order to make intermodal transport running smooth in our region we need good infrastructure and reasonable transport policies.
Numerous countries and companies engage in (in most cases scaterred and lacking coherency) various container / Ro-La / logistics projects. I think there is much to write about and report on.
Slovakia: ŽSR will invest in the construction of TIP Žilina almost EUR 40m (http://www.railwaymarket.eu/7803/Slovakia%2B%2B%25AESR%2Bwill%2Binvest%2Bin%2Bthe%2Bconstruction%2Bof%2BTIP%2B%25AEilina%2Balmost%2BEUR%2B40m.htm)
Slovak Railways intends to invest in the construction of the intermodal terminal (TIP) Žilina, which will serve to combine rail and truck transportation, nearly EUR 40m.
With its implementation should start in 2011, the construction completion is scheduled for two years later. The terminal will be located between the railway track Žilina – Vrútky and the water work Žilina. Its construction would create 25 new jobs.
TedStriker July 31st, 2009, 03:51 PM Is it too late to rename the thread, CEE Intermodal Terminals?
rmcee August 3rd, 2009, 11:02 AM I totally agree, the thread should be generally speaking on all types of intermodal facilities.
And a fresh newspiece on Záhony :
Ukraine's Vorskla Steel to Develop EUR 650m Mill in Hungary (http://www.railwaymarket.eu/7823/Ukraine%252C%2BHungary%2B%2BUkraine%2527s%2BVorskla%2BSteel%2Bto%2BDevelop%2BEUR%2B650m%2BMill%2Bin%2BHungary.htm)
Ukraine-based steel manufacturing company, Vorskla Steel AG, plans to develop a steel mill with an investment of EUR 650m. The mill will be located in an upcoming industrial and logistics park in Záhony, Hungary, near the Ukrainian border.
The project is expected to generate about 1,000 employment opportunities. The industrial and logistics park is being developed as part of developments planned in the Záhony region, which has railway connections to Russia and Ukraine.
TedStriker August 3rd, 2009, 02:06 PM I totally agree, the thread should be generally speaking on all types of intermodal facilities.
And a fresh newspiece on Záhony :
Ukraine's Vorskla Steel to Develop EUR 650m Mill in Hungary (http://www.railwaymarket.eu/7823/Ukraine%252C%2BHungary%2B%2BUkraine%2527s%2BVorskla%2BSteel%2Bto%2BDevelop%2BEUR%2B650m%2BMill%2Bin%2BHungary.htm)
Ukraine-based steel manufacturing company, Vorskla Steel AG, plans to develop a steel mill with an investment of EUR 650m. The mill will be located in an upcoming industrial and logistics park in Záhony, Hungary, near the Ukrainian border.
The project is expected to generate about 1,000 employment opportunities. The industrial and logistics park is being developed as part of developments planned in the Záhony region, which has railway connections to Russia and Ukraine.
That's great news for that area. One would hope this would make the Zahony intermodal terminal more busy.
If I'm right, Intercontainer is the sole user at the moment.
It amazes me at how much of the East Europe/CIS border areas is empty space. If only Britain has the same kind of land available next to it's railways!
Bartje August 4th, 2009, 02:10 PM http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3374/3438366256_507d5f4630.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3019/2292406840_0db6378358.jpg?v=0
http://www.mp-produktie.nl/images-3/27-10-07%20(13).jpg
http://www.mp-produktie.nl/images-3/27-10-07%20(14).jpg
TedStriker August 4th, 2009, 02:21 PM Nice shots Bartje.
I believe that Kombiverkehr runs a service to/from Coevorden and Ludwigshafen on a regular basis.
Bartje, do you live near to the terminal, or have you been there?
If so, you may be able to answer a question for me. On the website http://www.eu-park.com there are photos showing the use of the refrigerated rail wagons formerly owned by Intercontainer-Interfrigo.
Have you seen them there?
Jeroen669 August 4th, 2009, 02:36 PM Euroterminal Coevorden NL/D
That terminal is nothing compared to the big ECT terminals in Rotterdam. ;) It's bigger than I thought, though.
TedStriker August 4th, 2009, 02:52 PM That terminal is nothing compared to the big ECT terminals in Rotterdam. ;) It's bigger than I thought, though.
Jeroen, do you mean the rail terminals in Rotterdam, or the shipping terminals?
If you mean the latter, this thread is not about that type of terminal, it's about road/rail terminals (unless I'm mistaken).
The road/rail terminals at the Maasvlakte are big, but by no means the largest in Europe. Some of the largest in Europe are in Germany, at Hamburg (Billwerder), Cologne (Eifeltor) and Munich (Riem), in Italy, at Busto Arsizio and Verona, and France offers a rather large facility in Paris, at Valenton.
In any case, shouldn't we be focusing on terminals in the CEE countries?
rmcee August 4th, 2009, 02:59 PM I'd rather we talked on the CEE ones, but of course its useful to have some comparision.
Here is a pic from the TKD Dobrá terminal in Slovakia, that is now in the hands of Transcontainer. It has great potential (look at Slovak economy's structure and the statistics of rail transit traffic). It is very intersting where this Russian-Slovak cooperation leads both parties to.
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1064/dobra1.jpg
rmcee August 4th, 2009, 03:00 PM Intermodal must boom here, just look at the interest it generates (new acquirements by CTL, OKD, Kulczyk Investments).
TedStriker August 4th, 2009, 03:11 PM Intermodal must boom here, just look at the interest it generates (new acquirements by CTL, OKD, Kulczyk Investments).
I think we will see a significant expansion over the next ten years in CEE intermodal services.
There are already several operators who link the CEE with the EU parts of Europe, namley Kombiverkehr and Intercontainer. These two will almost certainly offer more services when they feel they're able to.
Also, you have a logistics company like Gartner (www.gatnerkg.com) running it's own intermodal trains between Turkey and Austria. It's not inconcevable that a logistics company may do the same thing across the CEE.
blogen_ August 4th, 2009, 03:15 PM MÁV Kombiterminál (http://www.mavkombi.hu/en.html)
Budapest - BILK Kombiterminál (http://www.bilkkombi.hu/en/introduction.html)
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/3268/bilk.jpg
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/8231/2bilk.jpg
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/5895/ccabilkkombiterminal.jpg
rmcee August 4th, 2009, 03:25 PM New isssue of Horizon magazine (http://www.okd-doprava.cz/dokums_news/okdd_horizon2_1014.pdf) is available (PR mag by OKD Doprava). They write about Paskov Container Terminal.
By the way - do you know if RCA is going to extend BILK is some way?
TedStriker August 4th, 2009, 03:38 PM By the way - do you know if RCA is going to extend BILK is some way?[/QUOTE]
I've not come across anything suggesting this, although I've not been looking.
Plus, RCA itself publishes most of it's publicity material in German - including it's website - so I have little chance of reading any of that!
I haven't seen BILK for a while. Does it need expanding?
I doubt that with the current economic situation that RCA has forwarders and shipping lines queuing up with traffic to any great degree. Perhaps I'm wrong though.
Bartje August 5th, 2009, 10:16 AM Nice shots Bartje.
I believe that Kombiverkehr runs a service to/from Coevorden and Ludwigshafen on a regular basis.
Bartje, do you live near to the terminal, or have you been there?
If so, you may be able to answer a question for me. On the website http://www.eu-park.com there are photos showing the use of the refrigerated rail wagons formerly owned by Intercontainer-Interfrigo.
Have you seen them there?
They were used for transporting agriculturel products. The wagons are not longer a regular visitor of Coevorden, because the company Henk Hentzen (later Broekman) is no longer active in Coevorden.
rheintram August 5th, 2009, 04:36 PM RCA Terminal Wolfurt (Austria)
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_sxbhvJdf7PA/SDR3yrIgv3I/AAAAAAAABJc/b16JnWMm_Gw/s640/14.06.2007%20212.JPG
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_ieeIfGRRQYg/SIM0lXabHqI/AAAAAAAAAU0/sQvd1lej2CY/s640/PICT0009.jpg
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_sxbhvJdf7PA/SKBp-xnz_sI/AAAAAAAACP0/z19bgDlRjxI/s640/29-7-2008%20082.JPG
the terminal will be extended in the near future.
rheintram August 5th, 2009, 04:42 PM RCA Terminal Wien Freudenau Hafen CCT (Vienna, Austria)
total area 115.000 m˛
Loading tracks 6 x 650, 1 x 700m
holding tracks: 3 x 650m
modes of transport: street, rail, ship
http://www.oebb.at/imagemagick/ROOT/bau/de/Servicebox/News_und_Services/Bildergalerien/Umbau_Terminal_Freudenau/010_Hafen_Freudenau_v_Suedosten.jpg.thumb?app=444
http://www.oebb.at/imagemagick/ROOT/bau/de/Servicebox/News_und_Services/Bildergalerien/Umbau_Terminal_Freudenau/020_terminal_freudenau.jpg.thumb?app=444
http://www.oebb.at/imagemagick/ROOT/bau/de/Servicebox/News_und_Services/Bildergalerien/Umbau_Terminal_Freudenau/040_HF_Containerterminal_Freudenau.jpg.thumb?app=444
http://www.oebb.at/imagemagick/ROOT/bau/de/Servicebox/News_und_Services/Bildergalerien/Umbau_Terminal_Freudenau/120_Terminal_Eroeffnungstag_021.jpg.thumb?app=444
Qwert August 5th, 2009, 07:58 PM There are several terminals:
Bratislava Central Freight Station
Bratislava Harbour
Košice
Žilina
Dobrá
Čierna nad Tisou
Dunajská Streda (private)
Sládkovičovo (private)
Bratislava Rusovce (closed)
Ružomberok (closed)
Trstená (closed)
Nové Zámky (cancelled)
Red lines - AGTC lines
Green lines - lines which are supposed to become AGTC lines
Green circles - Public terminals
Yellow squares - Private terminals
White cicrcles and white double circles - closed terminals
Red circles - planned network of new public inter-modal terminals
http://img.intermodal.sk/Obrazky/SK_terminaly_1050_sk.jpg
Planned network of new public inter-modal terminals which should be cofinanced by EU. You can see they will be in Bratislava, Košice, Žilina and Zvolen. The one in Žilina is already U/C.
http://img.intermodal.sk/Obrazky/Siet_terminalov_1050_sk.jpg
Terminal in Dunajská Streda owned by Metrans:
http://img.intermodal.sk/Obrazky/KD/KD_Metrans.jpg
http://www.zscargo.sk/images/gallery/terminal-DS/P2154830.JPG
http://www.zscargo.sk/images/gallery/terminal-DS/Metrans-novy.jpg
http://www.zscargo.sk/images/gallery/terminal-DS/P2154858.JPG
Terminal in Košice:
http://www.nedeliak.com/publikovane_fotografie/slovensko/terminal%20Komb_DPrepravy%20Kosice.jpg
Terminal Bratislava Harbour:
http://www.railnet.sk/storage/200902110059_image004.jpg
http://www.railnet.sk/storage/200902110059_image006.jpg
http://www.railnet.sk/storage/200902110100_image008.jpg
http://www.railnet.sk/storage/200902110102_image022.jpg
http://www.railnet.sk/storage/200902110103_image032.jpg
Terminal Čierna nad Tisou which is going to be extensively recnstructed:
http://fpedas.utc.sk/~kpzzu/akcie/cnt/5.jpg
http://fpedas.utc.sk/~kpzzu/akcie/cnt/10.jpg
http://fpedas.utc.sk/~kpzzu/akcie/cnt/14.jpg
http://fpedas.utc.sk/~kpzzu/akcie/cnt/13.jpg
This look like in horror movie, but it's supposed to defrost frozen iron ore and coal:
http://fpedas.utc.sk/~kpzzu/akcie/cnt/11.jpg
http://fpedas.utc.sk/~kpzzu/akcie/cnt/6.jpg
Terminal Dobrá is just next to Čierna nad Tisou:
http://fpedas.utc.sk/~kpzzu/akcie/cnt/22.jpg
TedStriker August 6th, 2009, 05:38 AM [QUOTE=rheintram;40829916]RCA Terminal Wolfurt (Austria)
That's one of those clever little terminals found across Europe which has been shoe-horned into a spare bit of space.
How will RCA expand it? I would have thought it needs a brand new location to be re-built with longer handling tracks, for example.
TedStriker August 6th, 2009, 05:43 AM [QUOTE=rheintram;40830196]RCA Terminal Wien Freudenau Hafen CCT (Vienna, Austria)
Nice shots. Do you have any photos that show the terminal in more detail, more close-up?
TedStriker August 6th, 2009, 05:50 AM [QUOTE=Qwert;40838322]
You've shown some great photos there of Terminal Čierna nad Tisou. It's not often you see a standard gauge/broad gauge interface in close-up, even though it's arguably one of the most intriguing aspects of the railway system in Europe.
Do you know how the terminal will be re-built?
Will the Dobrá terminal also be re-built, or is that already more than adequate as it is?
jsiren August 6th, 2009, 01:16 PM TedStriker told me to show you these.
http://juhanan.kuvat.fi/kuvat/junia/Junia+lakeudella/kempele-2009-05-22-015.jpg/_medium.jpg
Another:
http://juhanan.kuvat.fi/kuvat/junia/Sit%E4+sun+t%E4t%E4/rekkajuna.jpg/_medium.jpg
These are Finnish lorry/trailer trains of VR Cargo. The broad gauge and large loading gauge allow for a drive-through train to be built on ordinary flat car bases, equipped with wheel blocks, drive-through ramps, and auxiliary equipment such as generators and power outlets for cooling equipment. These trains run each night between northern and southern Finland at 120 km/h (if my memory serves); lorries are restricted to 89 km/h on the road. Vehicles are driven on and off the train. If the train is full, a vehicle can straddle the gap between cars.
GENIUS LOCI August 6th, 2009, 02:14 PM Is it too late to rename the thread, CEE Intermodal Terminals?
You can PM and ask to one of the 5 mods of this section
Qwert August 6th, 2009, 04:15 PM You've shown some great photos there of Terminal Čierna nad Tisou. It's not often you see a standard gauge/broad gauge interface in close-up, even though it's arguably one of the most intriguing aspects of the railway system in Europe.
Do you know how the terminal will be re-built?
Will the Dobrá terminal also be re-built, or is that already more than adequate as it is?
I think Čierna nad Tisou will be just reconstructed. Thus it will be like now only with some new equipment instead the old one:). Dobrá is rent to Russian Railways. They will probably invest some money there, but I don't expect some serious changes as well. On the other hand I can't say that for sure and maybe some more detailed information will appear. But, both Čierna nad Tisou and Dobrá are more than sufficient now so unless flow of cargo will significantly increase it's not necessary to add anything. Unfortunately, we are far from using their full capacity.
rheintram August 6th, 2009, 11:42 PM [QUOTE=rheintram;40829916]RCA Terminal Wolfurt (Austria)
That's one of those clever little terminals found across Europe which has been shoe-horned into a spare bit of space.
How will RCA expand it? I would have thought it needs a brand new location to be re-built with longer handling tracks, for example.
I found a small sketch about the extension plans:
http://static2.orf.at/vietnam2/images/site/oesterreich/200650/gterbahnhof%20wolfurt%20bild%20orf2_big.jpg
Compare it with an aerial picture of the current terminal:
http://maps.google.at/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=de&geocode=&q=Wolfurt&sll=47.635784,13.590088&sspn=7.299349,19.753418&ie=UTF8&ll=47.457838,9.737706&spn=0.014305,0.038581&t=h&z=15&iwloc=A
It looks as if they plan to expand it westwards, on the left side of Road 190. According to the plans, three new 500 meter long loading tracks would replace the current 250 meter tracks. Apparently 17.000 m˛ of ground would be needed westwards of the current terminal.
Unfortunately that's all I could find so far.
TedStriker August 7th, 2009, 05:15 AM it's still a tight squeeze, but a big improvement from an operational viewpoint.
TedStriker August 7th, 2009, 05:39 AM After BILK, Sopron is the most important terminal in Hungary.
It serves as a hub, connecting South, West and North Europe with the Balkans, CIS, Russia and Turkey.
Sadly I could not load the 'horizontal' image of Sopron which Google Earth's rotation feature allows, so here is a link via Google Maps.
You can see both the marshalling yard and the terminal itself.
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&q=sopron&ie=UTF8&ll=47.666688,16.601114&spn=0.020433,0.065875&t=h&z=15
TedStriker August 7th, 2009, 06:27 AM In the Czech Republic, Lovosice links with the piggyback network of Kombiverkehr. The terminal is tiny, although it's next to a sizeable yard, so can handle quite a few trains.
http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af84/TedStriker/Lovosicegateway.jpg
rmcee August 7th, 2009, 11:45 AM Poland's never-ending story of future success is the International Logistic Centre
EUROTERMINAL IN SLAWKOW, POLAND.
Read here (http://www.dars.ru/dars_expo/list_of_actions/2008_Transport_Logistic_China/shelk_way/pdf/EUROTERMINAL_Chiny_angielski.pdf)
And Railway Market - CEE Review once reviewed the Polish recent interesting investments in the terminal infrastructure
Read here (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=6&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.railwaymarket.eu%2Frm2007%2Fpdf%2FPolishrailoperatorsinvestinlogisticterminals.pdf&ei=wfZ7Ss_zJ4_mnAPvjfDbAQ&rct=j&q=slawk%C3%B3w+logistics+center&usg=AFQjCNGSTzpYISpUKnlU0Ou7lMGwh1vAUQ)
RawLee August 7th, 2009, 12:23 PM After BILK, Sopron is the most important terminal in Hungary.
No. Not even the mainline to Vienna goes through it. On other hand,check Szolnok:
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=47.180321,20.172787&spn=0.028119,0.055189&t=h&z=14
http://www.vasutallomasok.hu/kepek/s/szol0807.jpg
(vasutallomások.hu)
TedStriker August 7th, 2009, 02:01 PM By importance, I meant in terms of the type of trains/traffic, so I ought to have been more clear.
Szolnok is important in Hungarian terms, handling maritime containers.
However Sopron is a hub, acting as a 'node' between the West, North and South Europe networks and those of the East, Balkans, CIS, Russia and Turkey.
Sopron handles both shipping container traffic, and also Continental swap bodies and containers.
rmcee August 7th, 2009, 02:05 PM Do you have H1 2009 MAV Cargo statics on intermodal transports?
RawLee August 7th, 2009, 03:12 PM Found a map about the combi and container terminals:
http://www.kti.hu/uploads/images/Trendek/Negyedik/5-150.jpg
(kti.hu)
(OLSZK=national logistical services centre)
No,I dont have any data about the intermodal transport.
blogen_ August 7th, 2009, 06:17 PM ^^
container traffic:
Csepel Szabadkikötő: 130 000 TEU (2004), ~150 000 TEU (2008)
BILK: 86 000 TEU (2004), 146 000 TEU (2008)
Sopron GYSEV kombiterminál: 72 000 TEU (2005), ~80-100 000 TEU (2008)
Záhony: ~50 000 TEU (2008)
TedStriker August 9th, 2009, 01:43 AM I can't for the life of me find a photo of the terminal at Ljubljana, so I've had to resort to posting a link to a Google aerial photo.
This terminal is another that acts as a hub, connecting a few terminals in Germany, including the two hubs at Duisburg (Ruhort) and Hamburg (Billwerder), with a number of terminals spread across the Balkans, along with the Halkali facility in Istanbul also. (See: http://www.kombiverkehr.de).
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&q=ljubljana&ie=UTF8&ll=46.059832,14.555318&spn=0.005263,0.016469&t=h&z=17
TedStriker September 2nd, 2009, 07:46 AM Press release from Hupac on September 1st, 2009:
"As of 21.08.2009 Hupac will extend its network to Rumania through a feeder between the Budapest BILK Terminal and the brand-new terminal of Curtici. Hupac opens a new link between Rumania and Duisburg with reforwarding possibility to/from Rotterdam and, through the port, connections with England, Ireland and overseas destinations."
See: http://www.hupac.com/PDF/Flyer_nuovi...st_Curtici.pdf
http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af84/TedStriker/Budapest_Curtici.jpg
Does anyone have a photo of Terminal Curtici? (Apologies for sll size of map)
Slartibartfas September 2nd, 2009, 11:45 AM That's one of those clever little terminals found across Europe which has been shoe-horned into a spare bit of space.
How will RCA expand it? I would have thought it needs a brand new location to be re-built with longer handling tracks, for example. [/COLOR]
It is just being expanded, further future expansion will be challenging I guess.
sotavento September 4th, 2009, 02:24 AM Let's show some "small" container terminals around here:
Some container terminals aroudn the portuguese shore line (from north to south):
Leixőes terminal (the Porto city harbour):
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1O4vi4lVgCQ/Sdu-ysurCEI/AAAAAAAAAlk/98FUPicBrLY/s1600/DSC06118.JPG
http://www.portugalemgrande.com/files/images/leixoes6nx4_0.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XVu51tMSUdo/SQejnsD-UxI/AAAAAAAAFLI/RgYOZq08WRE/S660/JF016572_500.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_XVu51tMSUdo/SoF5hagMnEI/AAAAAAAALKk/w-mi4nzj7vQ/S220/DSCN2186.JPG
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3121/2420376685_b50a63d33f.jpg
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/8861/leixoessk3.jpg
Sorry but I couldn't find any good pics of the railway tracks.
Aveiro harbour: (being expanded and a new railway route under construction)
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XVu51tMSUdo/SQg4XRAiplI/AAAAAAAAFMY/MqsO-fQC42A/S660/PA.jpg
Figueira harbour:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_XVu51tMSUdo/SQg4OyCvWII/AAAAAAAAFMQ/HWkxTs4iAWs/S660/FigueiraFozRioMondego.jpg
Lisboa Harbour (alcantara/Santos and Matinha docks):
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XVu51tMSUdo/SQg3pVw6OVI/AAAAAAAAFMI/h2FAizVnD7s/S660/800px-Porto_de_Lisboa_%25282%2529.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Porto_de_Lisboa_(3).jpg/799px-Porto_de_Lisboa_(3).jpg
http://www.dgaiec.min-financas.pt/NR/rdonlyres/136581D7-4237-4FC8-A19D-3E9B188977C7/0/visita_porto_lisboa_seaf_abr_2008_018.jpg
http://www.rave.pt/Portals/0/Repository/2449_Xabregas_LT_Studios.7135372c-f1e6-4c2e-884a-8761da9a5777.jpg
(note: the bridge in the background is not built yet ... it's just a project for the HSR lisboa-madrid)
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ES2Y681Okik/SRgDMP9mvtI/AAAAAAAAFqE/5gES9QUuq2g/s400/final.jpg
(note: pruposed upgrade/enlargement of the Matinha terminal... huge) :cheers:
Setubal harbour:
(need to find proper pictures)
Sines harbour:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XVu51tMSUdo/SQg4fp8FsoI/AAAAAAAAFMg/f32vbf4RiIw/S660/sines.jpg
http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/4426717.jpg
http://www.cptp.pt/images/p_sines.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_04kGiH3CWbQ/SFm7RGd8mqI/AAAAAAAADJk/MXS5Id2uCZM/s400/PortoDeSines.jpg
http://os-caes-ladram-e-a-caravana-passa.weblog.com.pt/arquivo/MSC_Tokyo.jpg
(note the sheer size of that ship ... the largest of them all ... at least back in 2005 it was the largest in the world) :cheers:
^^ Need to find better pictures of the railway tracks ... preferably with loaded trains on them. :lol:
Also need to add some land based intermodal terminals.
TedStriker September 4th, 2009, 06:36 AM ^^
Thanks for the photos. Just so you know, CEE stands for Central and East Europe, so that's essentially the former Communist states.
But don't worry, skyscrapercity won't issue a warrant for your arrest. :)
sotavento September 7th, 2009, 02:13 AM ^^
Thanks for the photos. Just so you know, CEE stands for Central and East Europe, so that's essentially the former Communist states.
But don't worry, skyscrapercity won't issue a warrant for your arrest. :)
I know what CEE stands for ... I'm just playing a 2 on 1 game here:
1- My post was just to provoke some "response" on you guys ... to see if someone starts to post a huge load of photos. :cheers:
2- Playing dumb and answering the 1st post:
I'd like to start a topic on the Central / Southern / Eastern Euopean container terminals - small and big ones, new and old, projected and never built. :lol:
Offtopic: That Sines Harbour container facilities are suposed to be the westernmost extremity of a cross european freight rail route ... all the way from SW europe to NE in the baltic. :cheers:
TedStriker September 7th, 2009, 09:39 AM ^^
I see...
By container terminals, I think it was meant road/rail intermodal terminals, as oppose to ship-to-shore maritime container terminals.
But anyway, has anyone got any photos of any CEE intermodal terminals?
rmcee September 9th, 2009, 02:49 PM But anyway, has anyone got any photos of any CEE intermodal terminals?
I do have some, Poland mainly, asap I have some time I'll try to upload them.
sotavento September 12th, 2009, 03:09 PM ^^
I see...
By container terminals, I think it was meant road/rail intermodal terminals, as oppose to ship-to-shore maritime container terminals.
But anyway, has anyone got any photos of any CEE intermodal terminals?
That's a problem then ... to US here it means one and the same.
Most of our road-rail terminals are also shipping terminals ... it's just that our population lives almost entirely near the sea so we end up having tri-modal terminal everywhere. :cheers:
TedStriker September 14th, 2009, 03:06 PM ^^
It's OK, 'container terminals' means the same thing to many I think - a better title for the thread would have been CEE Intermodal Terminals, then it would have been clearer.
Plus, by the way, CEE means Central and Eastern Europe, so we all, strictly speaking, should be posting photos of the CEE region only.
Plancontrol October 20th, 2009, 06:22 PM Hello to everybody !
Really interesting thread. I hope this will be on the topic.
The Timis County (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timi%C5%9F_County) Council is planning to access funding for a fairly big project near Timisoara, in the western part of Romania. We (http://www.plancontrol.ro/) were commissioned to design it and so i share it (http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fplancontrol.wordpress.com%2F2009%2F10%2F17%2Fcentrul-intermodal-timisoara%2F&sl=ro&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8) with you guys!
In its last stage the terminal will have 2x400 and 4x500 rail tracks, truck parking, bus station, gas station, motel with restaurant and financial services, as well a number of adjacent logistics facilities. The County Council did not issued a press release yet, so I do not want to take them the fun ...
But still, here are a series of images from the project :
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/5619/centrulintermodaltimiso.jpg (http://img260.imageshack.us/i/centrulintermodaltimiso.jpg/)
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/5619/centrulintermodaltimiso.jpg (http://img15.imageshack.us/i/centrulintermodaltimiso.jpg/)
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TedStriker October 21st, 2009, 12:41 AM ^^
That's great news. Things seem to be really taking off in Romania these days in terms of intermodal developments.
Do you know if the terminal is being built to cater for any specific kind of traffic?
For example, will it focus mainly on maritime container traffic via the Port of Constanta, or will it also aim to draw in Continental swap bodies/semi trailers from the likes of Intercontainer, or one of the UIRR comapnies, such as Kombiverkehr?
rmcee October 21st, 2009, 02:46 PM It seems PKP Cargo finally decided to get things moving in intermodal business:
TRAKO 2009 highlights: Megatrailer from TS Opole (http://www.railwaymarket.eu/8342/TRAKO%2B2009%2Bhighlights%2B%2BMegatrailer%2Bfrom%2BTS%2BOpole.htm)
TedStriker October 23rd, 2009, 06:05 AM ^^
This is an interesting development.
With a loading height of 600mm, this wagon design is certainly suitable only for that part of Europe that offers the most generous, class 'C' loading gauge.
In other words, this is the first trailer-carrying intermodal wagon that is tailor-made just for those routes in Central and East Europe, and, by implication, Scandinavia also.
Elsewhere in Europe, piggyback wagons generally stick with a platform height of 270mm to enable the carriage of 4m-high semi-trailers.
Even now, there's only one route through Switzerland cleared for 4m-high trailers, and only certain routes in North Italy can convey 4m-high trailer trains.
The rest of Italy, and all of France and some of Belgium, can only allow the carriage of lower-height lorry trailers.
The one exception is the Lorry-Rail system in France, where the Modalohr wagons have an extra-low height of 220mm, and so therefore can allow for the carriage of 4m-high trailers across the class ‘B+’ loading gauge.
It will be interesting to see this wagon in service, and to what extent it will be in use for the carriage of unaccompanied trailers.
As loading and unloading is going to be end-on, using the hinged head stocks and mobile ramps, it will take more time to handle a block train of unaccompanied trailers using this system than by using the conventional lift-on/lift-off pocket wagon system.
TedStriker October 23rd, 2009, 06:14 AM It seems PKP Cargo finally decided to get things moving in intermodal business:
I've just done a Google search on this new wagon, and it seems as though this is, in fact, just another version of the small-wheeled rolling-road design of wagon that various manufacturers have been building for many years.
The only significant design difference to anything that exists now seems to be the fact that these TS Opole wagons can operate as individual units. So I guess, therefore, the designers hope operators will use the wagons within the normal, wagonload system which, in Poland, is run only by PKP Cargo.
rmcee October 23rd, 2009, 09:52 AM I've just done a Google search on this new wagon, and it seems as though this is, in fact, just another version of the small-wheeled rolling-road design of wagon that various manufacturers have been building for many years.
The only significant design difference to anything that exists now seems to be the fact that these TS Opole wagons can operate as individual units. So I guess, therefore, the designers hope operators will use the wagons within the normal, wagonload system which, in Poland, is run only by PKP Cargo.
the very significant difference is that PKP Cargo tended to totally neglect intermodal business. They didn't buy these wagons though, but they are willing to have them in some modified version. In Poland there was only one RoLa business operated on non-permanent basis: "Jaroslaw" train by PKP LHS.
TedStriker October 23rd, 2009, 01:06 PM ^^
It seems weird to me that there’s not more intermodal activity in Poland, not only because of the size of the Polish economy, but also due to Poland being a transit country for trade with the CIS and Russia.
The politics of PKP Cargo can only be half the story. There are now several private companies that provide rail traction in Poland. Therefore, if, say, Kombiverkehr wishes to begin an intermodal service for unaccompanied trailers for a Polish terminal, it simply needs to hire one of these companies.
Already there are well-established services for unaccompanied trailers serving terminal terminals in the Czech Republic, Hungary, Romania and Slovenia, and each of these states has a UIRR member, in the form of Bohemiakombi, Hungarokombi, Rocombi and Adria Kombi, respectively.
So there must be a very good reason why Poland does not have a UIRR member, and why there are no piggyback trains serving Poland. Once upon a time there had been a Polish UIRR member in the form of Polkombi, so the fact that this is now defunct may tell us something.
It’s true that Hupac serves a few Polish terminals. However these services convey only chemical tanks and maritime containers.
RawLee October 24th, 2009, 06:02 PM Here you go,a nice RoLa train at Kelenföld:
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http://www.vlaki.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=2542 (http://www.vlaki.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=2542)
RCA near Ljubljana:
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rmcee October 28th, 2009, 04:36 PM In November CTL Logistics will finally present the terminal in Piotrków Trybunalski. It has storage capacity of 350 TEU and will initially serve one train per day, but it has a very advanageous location (lots of storage and logistic facilities in a 30 km diameter). And speaking of CTL:
Poland: SNCF to take over CTL Logistics? (http://www.railwaymarket.eu/8402/Poland%2B%2BSNCF%2Bto%2Btake%2Bover%2BCTL%2BLogistics%253F.htm)
In the first quarter of 2010 a spectacular takeover might take place on the Polish railway market. SNCF Fret, the fourth biggest rail operator in the EU, may buy CTL Logistics, the largest Polish private freight carrier.
rmcee October 30th, 2009, 11:40 AM Bulgaria: Declaration on the improvement of intermodal transport in Bulgaria (http://www.railwaymarket.eu/8417/Bulgaria%2B%2BDeclaration%2Bon%2Bthe%2Bimprovement%2Bof%2Bintermodal%2Btransport%2Bin%2BBulgaria.htm)
The operating partners of the EU project CREAM (Customer-driven Rail-freight services on a European mega-corridor based on Advanced business and operating models) and further stakeholder from the transport sector have executed a declaration to support the development of intermodal transport in Bulgaria.
They underline the need to strengthen the position of rail in South East Europe. Now the declaration has been handed over to the Bulgarian government.
Due to the enlargement of the European Union, Bulgaria is more than ever an important focal point. The freight corridors to Greece and Turkey have experienced a dynamic economic development in recent years. As soon as the global economic crisis is over, transports in these regions are expected to experience high growth rates again.
Currently there is only one outdated container handling spot in Sofia, which is not capable of processing the required freight volumes. The lack of infrastructure is also a constraint to an optimal capacity usage of the pan-European transport corridors 4, 8 and 10. Today, Budapest and Belgrade represent the last major hubs for container transports in the direction of South East Europe. It is intended to raise the share of intermodal transport considerably by improving decisive framework conditions. In detail the signatories of the declaration propose to implement effective organisational structures for the terminal development and operation and to build a high-capacity container transhipment terminal in the Sofia region.
With the expansion of the terminal transhipment capacity in Sofia the situation of international freight transport is expected to improve dramatically. Not only the location of Sofia will benefit from its integration in the intermodal transport network, also rail itself can score with shorter journey times and better quality.
Hopefully more about this project, as well as Koidula (Estonia) and Recas (Romania) in Railway Market - CEE Review 4/09!
rmcee November 2nd, 2009, 03:23 PM another small terminal project in Poland. PCC Intermodal will build a facility for PLN 80m. It will be 8-10ha big with a 700m siding.
rmcee November 20th, 2009, 03:46 PM Hungary: MAV Kombiterminal buys 10% of Törökbálint container terminal (http://www.railwaymarket.eu/8575/Hungary%2B%2BMAV%2BKombiterminal%2Bbuys%2B10%2525%2Bof%2BT%25F6r%25F6kb%25E1lint%2Bcontainer%2Bterminal.htm)]
According to Hungarian media, MAV Kombiterminal, the subsidiary of MAV Cargo, acquired 10% of shares in Törökbálint container terminal near Budapest.
What’s more, Rail Port Arad, a company which is partially owned by MAV Kombiterminal, decided to double its capacity in Curtici terminal near the city of Arad, the local media reports.
Curtici container terminal, placed close to the Romanian-Hungarian border, might become a very important part of the Rail Cargo Austria’s project of further expansion to the eastern and southern parts of the European Union.
Rail Cargo Austria purchased the biggest Hungarian freight operator MAV Cargo at the end of 2008. In the mid-2009, Karl Zochmeister of OBB Group said, that Rail Cargo Austria plans to run 1 train per day in Romania in 2010.
rmcee November 27th, 2009, 11:27 AM Austria: Two new direct container connections (http://www.railwaymarket.eu/8624/Austria%2B%2BTwo%2Bnew%2Bdirect%2Bcontainer%2Bconnections.htm)
Since the beginning of November, Salzburg has new direct links with the port of Rotterdam. Intercontainer Austria, the subsidiary of Rail Cargo Austria, offers now two new direct container connections between Salzburg and Rotterdam per week.
About 25% of all container shipments to and from Austria go through the port of Rotterdam. 80% of it is transported by railways. According to Rail Cargo Austria, this proportion has risen sharply in recent years, because of the improved quality of railway infrastructure around the Rotterdam’s port.
rmcee January 12th, 2010, 03:58 PM Poland: DCT Gdansk prepares for growth with an order for two Kalmar E-One2 RTGs (http://www.railwaymarket.eu/8898/Poland%2B%2BDCT%2BGdansk%2Bprepares%2Bfor%2Bgrowth%2Bwith%2Ban%2Border%2Bfor%2Btwo%2BKalmar%2BE%2BOne2%2BRTGs.htm)
DCT Gdansk – now serving some of the industry’s largest vessels – recently awarded Cargotec a contract to supply two Kalmar E-One2 rubber-tyred gantry (RTG) cranes.
The new order will help the customer satisfy demands to increase its handling capability. The machines will be delivered during the first quarter 2010. This order was booked in the fourth quarter 2009 order intake.
The 7+1 wide and 1-over-5 high RTGs with a maximum lifting capacity of 40 tonnes will come equipped with Kalmar Smartrail, an autosteering and container position verification system. Additional performance-enhancing technology such as an electrical anti-sway system, have also been requested by DCT Gdansk. Furthermore, the Kalmar E-One2 is the latest RTG model and meets the latest safety and environmental demands whilst remaining productive and cost-effective.
Viewed as a monumental step in the development of DCT Gdansk as a world-class port, the facility has been added to a major shipping line service starting already early this month. The weekly service will see 8000 TEU vessels calling at DCT Gdansk, which will become Poland’s largest container terminal as a result.
Boris Wenzel, the CEO of DCT Gdansk, is confident that by welcoming the first-ever post-Panamax ships to Poland, DCT will offer a viable alternative to traditional Northern European hubs and become the preferred gateway to Central & Eastern Europe and Russia.
- The need to expedite the development of our handling capabilities has increased as more shipping lines are considering calling on DCT Gdansk. To help us with our plans, we turned to Cargotec not only because they offer market-leading equipment but as they could accommodate a quick delivery time.
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