Swahili Speaking Forum | Swahili Spika Pahili

[Kwame]

I want to learn Swahili as soon as I finish with learning Portuguese, so I made this thread for all of you Swahili speakers out there. I think that this thread will attract more forumers considering Swahili is used heavily by East African internet users. Please limit the use of English in here, the only reason I'm using it is because I'm completely illiterate when it comes to this beautiful language. Also, sorry about the title, I tried my best.

Penye nia pana njia. :)

[ernestombayo7]

I want to learn Swahili as soon as I finish with learning Portuguese, so I made this thread for all of you Swahili speakers out there. I think that this thread will attract more forumers considering Swahili is used heavily by East African internet users. Please limit the use of English in here, the only reason I'm using it is because I'm completely illiterate when it comes to this beautiful language. Also, sorry about the title, I tried my best.

Penye nia pana njia. :)

Sawa.Asante kwa kufikiria jambo la busara kama hii.Lakini wakenya wengi wana shida kuandika kiswahili.

[desert burner]

^^ ninafuraha chungu nzima kuona ndugu yetu amejitahidi kujua lugha ya kiswahili. karibu sana bwana kwame:banana:

[BUTEMBO21]

Lakini wakenya wengi wana shida kuandika kiswahili.

Ile ni bupumbafu, bana shindwa ku andika luga yabo.:ohno:

[ernestombayo7]

Ile ni bupumbafu, bana shindwa ku andika luga yabo.:ohno:

Wakenya kutoka Nairobi na miji kubwa kenya wanaongea Sheng.Yenye ni Kiswahili imechanganyishwa na Kiingereza.(spelling!?). Kwa hivyo hawajui Swahili sanifu.Hata mimi na ng'ang'ana sana.

[Kenguy]

I want to learn Swahili as soon as I finish with learning Portuguese, so I made this thread for all of you Swahili speakers out there. I think that this thread will attract more forumers considering Swahili is used heavily by East African internet users. Please limit the use of English in here, the only reason I'm using it is because I'm completely illiterate when it comes to this beautiful language. Also, sorry about the title, I tried my best.

Penye nia pana njia. :)

^^
Congrats. You got the Swahili proverb (Methali) right.:)

[Kenguy]

Wakenya kutoka Nairobi na miji kubwa kenya wanaongea Sheng.Yenye ni Kiswahili imechanganyishwa na Kiingereza.(spelling!?). Kwa hivyo hawajui Swahili sanifu.Hata mimi na ng'ang'ana sana.

Tunaweza kutumia 'sheng' hapa?:lol:

...ama wacha tuandike swahili sanifu tuone kama tunakumbuka kile tulichofanya shuleni. Hatukufunzwa lugha hii miaka karibu 12 bure. Kazi ngumu kuandika kwa Kiswahili.

[ernestombayo7]

Tunaweza kutumia 'sheng' hapa?:lol:

...ama wacha tuandike swahili sanifu tuone kama tunakumbuka kile tulichofanya shuleni. Hatukufunzwa lugha hii miaka karibu 12 bure. Kazi ngumu kuandika kwa Kiswahili.

Kweli kabisa.Wacha tujikakamue.Umewahi kujaribu kuzungumza na wa Tanzania?nakuambia maneno zinaweza kukupita kama gari ya safari rally.
Sijaandika na kiswahili kwa muda mrefu mpaka naskia ni kama naandika French.

[BUTEMBO21]

Wakenya kutoka Nairobi na miji kubwa kenya wanaongea Sheng.Yenye ni Kiswahili imechanganyishwa na Kiingereza.(spelling!?). Kwa hivyo hawajui Swahili sanifu.Hata mimi na ng'ang'ana sana.

Ata BaKongomani bana semaka Kifransa, alakini banajuwa Kuandika Swahili ya Kongo.

[BUTEMBO21]

Tunaweza kutumia 'sheng' hapa?:lol:

...ama wacha tuandike swahili sanifu tuone kama tunakumbuka kile tulichofanya shuleni. Hatukufunzwa lugha hii miaka karibu 12 bure. Kazi ngumu kuandika kwa Kiswahili.

Swahili sanifu? njo ya wapi ?

[ewangai]

Kiswahili kilizaliwa zanzibar, kikaendeleshwa Tanganyika, kikapatwa na ugonjwa kenya, kikafa uganda na mwishowe kikazikwa Congo.

Ni vizuri kujua kwamba ndugu yetu Mghana angependa kuongea Kiswahili. Ndio nasi tumsaidie na tujisaidie pia kwa kumfunza na kujikumbusha kiswahili.

Basi kwam nitaanza (I start)

Basic

Q. Hujambo (Hello, how are you)
R. Sijambo (I am well)

Q. Habari (Literal "News?" in an inquisitive manner used as salutation in a "how are things" manner)
R. Njuri / Njema / (Good, Fine)

Habari za Asubuhi (Morning) Mchana (Daytime) Jioni (evening)

Q. Vargrants, like most of us from nairobi, will probably just say
"Sema" which is fairly rude in say tanzania (Literal Say something)
R. Poa (Literal & Meaning "Cool" as you would use it in english)

come on lads, expand this

[ewangai]

Butembo your swahili reads like an indian accent. almost made me fall off my chair

[kenyan24]

Ya, that congo swahili is funny.

[kenyan24]

Nilipokuwa kidato cha kwanza nilikuwa sikipendi kiswahili hata tone. Lakini baada ya mda hayo yalibadilika, na nilipita kiswahili vizuri. Ladba sababu moja ni kwa sababu nina mizizi kutoka mkoa wa pwani. Ingekuwa vyema kama wakenya wangejikakamua kuongea kiswahili sanifu kama wafanyavyo watanzania.

[Kenguy]

Ya, that congo swahili is funny.

Ningependa kila mtu andike kile anachokijua kwa kiswahili. Watu wanaoishi nchi tofauti wanaandika na wanatamka Kiswahili kwa njia tofauti. Kwa mfano mtu anayetoka Kenya akisema "unaenda wapi" mwenzake kutoka Uganda atasema "onaenda wapi". Bora sisi sote tunaelewana. Pia ningetaka kujua namna Kiswahili cha Kongo kinachoandikwa. Labda Butembo anaweza kutusaidia.

[desert burner]

Butembo your swahili reads like an indian accent. almost made me fall off my chair

^^damn ewangai, i saw it i was laughing until my ribs were out but i could not say anything since he is a good friend of mine:lol:

kiswahili nilikuwa nikichukia sana wakati nilikuwa kidato cha kwanza kwa vile huko mkoa wa kaskazini mashariki tunatumia kisomali sana na pia huyo mwalimu alikuwa akinionea sana kwa hivyo nilikuwa nikitoroka kipindi cha kiswahili kabla mwalimu hakuhudhuria darasani na kujificha msalani:lol::lol:

[BUTEMBO21]

Butembo your swahili reads like an indian accent. almost made me fall off my chair

Indian accent? damn, .... Apana mwanaume, Njo Swahili ya kweli.:lol: Nyiye muko na "Swahili ya pembeni ya mayi". ( Coast Swahili.)
Yetu ni "Swahili ya Ndani " (Inland Swahili)

Alakini mi' napendaka basichana ya Kenya na Tanzania vile banasemaka Swahili.:cheers:

[ewangai]

Lol

Zaitwa Lahaja. Nyie mwaongea lahaza ya Kingwana, Sisi wanairobi twaongea sheng ama Kimvita (Mombasa) au Kiamu (Lamu)

Kuna orodha ya lahaja mbali mbali kwenye kamusi elezi ya wikipedia

* Kiunguja: kisiwani Unguja (Tanzania) - kimekuwa msingi wa Kiswahili cha Kisasa.
* Kimrima: eneo la Pangani, Vanga, Dar es Salaam, Rufiji na Mafia kisiwani (Tanzania)
* Kimgao: eneo la Kilwa (Tanzania)
* Kipemba: kisiwani Pemba (Tanzania)
* Kimvita: eneo la "Mvita" au Mombasa (Kenya). Zamani ilikuwa lahaja kubwa ya pili pamoja na Kiunguja.
* Kiamu: eneo la Lamu (Kenya)
* Kingwana: Kiswahili cha Kongo
* Shikomor: Kiswahili cha Komoro
* Shimaore: Shikomor cha Mayotte (Mahore)
* Shindzuani: Shikomor cha Anjouan (Komoro)
* Shingadzija: Shikomor cha Komoro Kuu
* Kimwani: Kaskazini ya Msumbiji na visiwa vya Kerimba
* Chimwiini: eneo la Barawa, kusini ya Somalia
* Sheng: Kiswahili cha mtaani Nairobi (Kenya) chenye maneno mengi ya asili ya Kiingereza, Gikuyu na lugha zingine za Kenya

[ernestombayo7]

Lol

Zaitwa Lahaja. Nyie mwaongea lahaza ya Kingwana, Sisi wanairobi twaongea sheng ama Kimvita (Mombasa) au Kiamu (Lamu)

Kuna orodha ya lahaja mbali mbali kwenye kamusi elezi ya wikipedia

* Kiunguja: kisiwani Unguja (Tanzania) - kimekuwa msingi wa Kiswahili cha Kisasa.
* Kimrima: eneo la Pangani, Vanga, Dar es Salaam, Rufiji na Mafia kisiwani (Tanzania)
* Kimgao: eneo la Kilwa (Tanzania)
* Kipemba: kisiwani Pemba (Tanzania)
* Kimvita: eneo la "Mvita" au Mombasa (Kenya). Zamani ilikuwa lahaja kubwa ya pili pamoja na Kiunguja.
* Kiamu: eneo la Lamu (Kenya)
* Kingwana: Kiswahili cha Kongo
* Shikomor: Kiswahili cha Komoro
* Shimaore: Shikomor cha Mayotte (Mahore)
* Shindzuani: Shikomor cha Anjouan (Komoro)
* Shingadzija: Shikomor cha Komoro Kuu
* Kimwani: Kaskazini ya Msumbiji na visiwa vya Kerimba
* Chimwiini: eneo la Barawa, kusini ya Somalia
* Sheng: Kiswahili cha mtaani Nairobi (Kenya) chenye maneno mengi ya asili ya Kiingereza, Gikuyu na lugha zingine za Kenya

Safi!

[Kenguy]

Sikujua sheng ni lahaja ya Kiswahili.

[Papaf Mwenyewe]

Know Your AFRICAN Founding Fathers (In a Swahili Tongue Twister)

NYERERE KAUNDA BANDA AZIKIWE KENYATTA

[Kenguy]

Know Your AFRICAN Founding Fathers (In a Swahili Tongue Twister)

NYERERE KAUNDA BANDA AZIKIWE KENYATTA

^^
Sasa wewe, uliipata wapi? Ama ulikaa chini na kufikiria kuunganisha majina kutunga sentensi? :lol: Heko ndugu!

[Papaf Mwenyewe]

Kwa Lahaja, msisahau

KIJOMVU

KICHANGAMWE

[Kenguy]

Nimerudi kutoka safari nchini Tanzania na kuna kitu kimoja nimegundua. Sisi Wakenya hatujui Swahili. Kweli Wabongo wanaipenda lugha.

Kama jana niliingia duka ili niweze kutuma barua pepe katika mtandao nilikuta wanatumia Google katika lugha ya Kiswahili. Kuhesabu pesa kwa Kiswahili kwangu ilikuwa ngumu kwa sababu walikuwa wananiambia bei ya bidhaa kwa Kiswahili halafu nilijikuta nikifikiria bei kwa kiingereza kabla ya kununua kitu chochote. Habari za saa tatu Tanzania wanasoma kutumia Kiswahili wakati mimi nimezoea kusikia Habari za Kiingereza saa hizo nikiwa nyumbani Kenya. Kile kilichonifurahisha sana ni vile Watanzania wanachukua kila mtu kuwa kama ndugu wao. Mtu akiniita na hanijui Uganda anasema gwe, Kenya ni wewe lakini Tanzania ni Ndugu... Nilifurahi sana!

Dar es salaam imeendelea sana. Si kama vile nilikuwa nimefikiria hapo mbeleni. Nitaziweka picha zile nilichukua katika uzi {if thats what you call a thread in Swahili} ya Dar es salaam nikipata wakati.

TZ, Hongera.

[kenyan24]

Ati uzi?? Hehehe. Mimi nimetembelea site za watanzania katika mtandao na kwa kweli nimeshuhudia chuki kubwa sana dhidi ya wakenya. Hata sasa sina hamu ya kwenda kule. Je ulishuhudia chuki hii? Marafiki zangu waniambia kule hawarudi, kila waendako wanaitwa mungiki.

[Kenguy]

Ati uzi?? Hehehe. Mimi nimetembelea site za watanzania katika mtandao na kwa kweli nimeshuhudia chuki kubwa sana dhidi ya wakenya. Hata sasa sina hamu ya kwenda kule. Je ulishuhudia chuki hii? Marafiki zangu waniambia kule hawarudi, kila waendako wanaitwa mungiki.

Nilikuwa huko kama siku nne tu. Na wakati huo wote sikumpata mtu hata mmoja aliyenionesha madharau au chuki. Labda wako lakini sikuwakuta. Huwezi sema watu ni wabaya kwa sababu ya kile wanachoandika katika mtandao. Ukisema hivo, basi Wakenya ndio wabaya zaidi (angalia mashada kwa mfano). Na wale wanaotumia mtandao wengi wako nchi za ulaya sio Tanzania. Kila nchi iko na watu wenye roho mbaya na wale wazuri.

[KQV208]

Habari nyote? Kiswahili changu si kizuri vile. Nimesahau kidogo kwani sikukifuatilia baada ya kuondoka kidato cha mwisho. Lakini sasa tutakirekebisha hapa hapa. Siku njema.

[BUTEMBO21]

Nilikuwa huko kama siku nne tu. Na wakati huo wote sikumpata mtu hata mmoja aliyenionesha madharau au chuki. Labda wako lakini sikuwakuta. Huwezi sema watu ni wabaya kwa sababu ya kile wanachoandika katika mtandao. Ukisema hivo, basi Wakenya ndio wabaya zaidi (angalia mashada kwa mfano). Na wale wanaotumia mtandao wengi wako nchi za ulaya sio Tanzania. Kila nchi iko na watu wenye roho mbaya na wale wazuri.

Chali, Ni patiye ile site ya baTanzania, ni ba chambule ko kidogo. Tafazali.

[kenyan24]

Yaitwa jamiiforums.com

[BUTEMBO21]

Yaitwa jamiiforums.com

Aksante ,

But damn, aba baTZ nini iko mukichwa yabo?:ohno:

[kenyan24]

Haha, kwanini wauliza hivyo?

[BUTEMBO21]

Haha, kwanini wauliza hivyo?

Ba TZ mingi abapendi Kenya, ama EAC, bana ogopa Kenya sana.

[kenyan24]

Kweli kabisa, there was a study a while back iliyosema over 70% of watanzania hawataki EAC.

[BUTEMBO21]

Kidogo ya Swahili ya Kongo.

Month = Mwezi.

January = Mwezi ya Kwanza
Feb = Mwezi ya Pili
Mar = Mwzi Ya Tatu
Apr =........ ya Ine
May =......... ya Tano
June =..........ya Sita
Jul =.........ya Saba
Aug =..........Ya Mnane
Sept =.........ya Kenda
Oct =,.........ya Kumi
Nov =.........ya Kumi na Moya
Dec =.........ya kumi na Mbili


Week = Juma.
dAY =Siku.

Monday = Siku ya Kwanza
Tues = ......ya Pili
Wedn =.......ya Tatu
Thusd =........ya Ine
Fri =........ya tano
Sut =.......ya Sita
Sun = Siku Ya Mungu.



Zero = Sero
One = Moya
Two = Mbili
Three = Tatu
Four = Ine
Five = Tano
Six = Sita
Seven =Saba
Eight =Munane or Mnane
Nine =Kenda
Ten = Kumi
Eleven = Kumi Namoya
Nineteen = Kumi na Kenda


20= Makumi mbili
21= Makumi mbili na moya

29=Makumi mbili na kenda
30=Makumi tatu


50=Makumi tano
60=Makumi sita
70=Makumi saba
80=Makumi munane or Mnane
90= Makumu Kenda


100 Mia Moya/Mia Moja ( depends)
1000 Elfu Moya/Moja. ( depends)

Father= Baba
Mother=Mama
Sister= Dada
Brother= kaka
Grandma= Tate Mwanamuke or (Nkambo for Katangan Swahili)
Grandpa= Tate Mwana ume or (Nkambo for Katangan Swahili)
Uncle= Muyomba
Aunt= Shangazi

[Mwafrika]

^^ wa congo mna piga hesabu kwa namna ya ku shangaza:)
(I mean to say the way you count is interesting)

Ishirini (20) mna sema makumi mbili
thelathini (30) makumi tatu... na kadhalika
arubaini - 40
hamsini - 50
sitini - 60
sabini - 70
themanini - 80
tisini - 90
mia - 100

[BUTEMBO21]

^^ wa congo mna piga hesabu kwa namna ya ku shangaza:)
(I mean to say the way you count is interesting)

Ishirini (20) mna sema makumi mbili
thelathini (30) makumi tatu... na kadhalika
arubaini - 40
hamsini - 50
sitini - 60
sabini - 70
themanini - 80
tisini - 90
mia - 100


Woooooow , Si wezi ku esabia vile mweye muna esabia.:rofl:

[Kwame]

Sawa.Asante kwa kufikiria jambo la busara kama hii.Lakini wakenya wengi wana shida kuandika kiswahili.

^^ ninafuraha chungu nzima kuona ndugu yetu amejitahidi kujua lugha ya kiswahili. karibu sana bwana kwame:banana:

Translation? :D

^^
Congrats. You got the Swahili proverb (Methali) right.:)

Thanks bro, what would have been the Kiswahili equivalent of writing Kiswahili speaking forum?

[BUTEMBO21]

Translation? :D



Thanks bro, what would have been the Kiswahili equivalent of writing Kiswahili speaking forum?

Congolese Swahili is easy, Kenya/ Tanzania Swahili is damn too hard.

[Kisumu Ndogo]

Translation? :D



Thanks bro, what would have been the Kiswahili equivalent of writing Kiswahili speaking forum?

I will try to help I think there are several ways you can put it, Example

Translation
Zimo njia nyingi ambazo waweza kusema msemo huo. Mfano

Ukumbi wa gumzo ya Kiswahili
Mdahalo wa lugha ya Kiswahili^^

[Kenguy]

Congolese Swahili is easy, Kenya/ Tanzania Swahili is damn too hard.

Usife moyo.:) Kiswahili yetu si ngumu.

[BUTEMBO21]

Usife moyo.:) Kiswahili yetu si ngumu.

Apana mwanaume, ile Swahili yenu iko nguvu sana.

[Kwame]

I will try to help I think there are several ways you can put it, Example

Translation
Zimo njia nyingi ambazo waweza kusema msemo huo. Mfano

Ukumbi wa gumzo ya Kiswahili
Mdahalo wa lugha ya Kiswahili^^

Ahsante. :)

[Kenguy]

Dar es Salaam miaka 10 ijayo

Mwananchi,
10/2/09.
Sadick Mtulya.

PAMOJA na majiji mbalimbali duniani kuwa ya kuvutia kutokana na kujengwa kwa kuzingatia viwango vya kimataifa, yanahitaji kufanyiwa marekebisho ya mara kwa mara ili kuyafanya yaende na wakati na kuzidi kuwa ya kisasa wakati wote.

Kama ilivyo kwa mengine, Dar es Salaam ni miongoni mwa majiji yaliyo na jiografia nzuri na ya kipekee. Hiyo inatokana na kuwa na sehemu kubwa ya ardhi yenye uoto wa asili ambao kama utaboreshwa kwa kufuata kanuni, sheria na taratibu za makazi bora, litakuwa moja ya majiji bora kati ya machache Afrika.


Kumekuwa na jitihada za kuliboresha jiji la Dar es Salaam na moja ya mradi mkubwa uliopendekezwa katika miezi ya karibuni ni ule utakaogharimu zaidi ya Sh1.4 trilioni. Rasimu ya mradi huo ilishazinduliwa na Mkurugenzi wa Shirika la Makazi la Umoja wa Mataifa (UN-HABITAT), Afrika na Uarabuni Dk Aliounce Badiane.

Dk Aliounce Badiane anasema mradi huo unaanza kwa kiwango cha Sh800 bilioni na tayari mkakati wa kudhibiti maeneo ambayo hayajajengwa umekwishaanza.

Mradi huo umezingatia maeneo makuu matatu ambayo ni ugawaji na upangaji bora wa ardhi, huduma za jamii pamoja na ujenzi wa makazi bora yatakayoendana na uwezo na uhalisia wa maeneo husika.

Mradi wa kulikarabati jiji hilo utakuwa wa miaka 10 kuanzia 2010 mpaka 2020 ikiwa ni sehemu ya mpango wa UN-HABITAT kuboresha makazi duni ya majiji mbalimbali barani Afrika.

Jiji la Dar es Salaam limepata nafasi hiyo kutokana na kuwa na idadi kubwa ya watu ya zaidi ya milioni tatu ambalo ni ongezeko la watu 100,000 sawa na asilimia 4.3 kila mwaka. Inakadiriwa kwamba hadi mwaka 2015 litakuwa na watu zaidi ya milioni 3.8

Uboreshaji huo utalifanya kuwa moja kati ya majiji makubwa yaliyopangika kwa kufuata utaratibu wa sera na sheria za makazi duniani.

Ofisa Mwandamizi wa jiji la Dar es Salaam anasema mradi huo umekuja katika muda muafaka hasa ikizingatiwa kwamba asilimia 70 ya maeneo ya Dar es Salaam yamejengwa kiholela.

Anasema: “Huu mradi ni mkubwa na unahitaji ushirikiano katika nyanja zote hivyo wananchi waupokee na watoe ushirikiano kwa wadau watakaofika katika maeneo yao kwa ajili ya shughuli mbalimbali.”

Katika mradi huo, uboreshaji utakuwa katika awamu tatu zinazokwenda sambamba. Katika kila eneo kuna mipango mitatu ambayo ni ya muda mfupi (Julai 2009 - Juni 2010), muda wa kati (2010 - 2015) na muda mrefu (2016- 2020).

Suala la Ardhi
Mikakati ya muda mfupi iliyoanza Julai 2009 hadi Juni 2010 itakuwa ni ya uboreshaji wa uoto wa asili.

Muda wa kati, utakaoanzia 2010 hadi 2015 utakuwa ni kuainisha kwa uwekaji wa maeneo ya wazi, upitaji wa barabara, pamoja na kuonyesha maeneo yanayofaa kuwepo huduma mbalimbali za kijamii.

Muda mrefu, utakayoanza 2016/20 utahusisha ugawaji wa viwanja 150,000 vilivyopimwa katika Manispaa za Ilala, Temeke na Kinondoni, kutoa hatimiliki pamoja kuongeza ongezeko la ulipaji kodi kutoka asilimia 20 hadi 40.

Huduma za jamii

Mikakati ya muda mfupi iliyoanza Julai 2009 hadi Juni 2010 inahusisha ujenzi wa vyoo vikubwa vitatu vya jamii, ujenzi wa mtandao mkubwa wa upatikanaji wa maji safi pamoja na utoaji majitaka.

Muda wa kati, utakaoanza 2010 hadi 2015, utahusisha ujenzi wa miondombinu ya barabara yenye mifereji zinazotoka nje ya mji zenye urefu wa kilomita 54 na za ndani ya jiji kwa kilomita 20, ujenzi wa vituo 90 vya kutoa huduma ya majisafi na salama, ujenzi wa vyoo 159 pamoja na kujenga mfumo imara wa mifereji ya majitaka.

Muda mrefu, kuanzia 2016 - 2020 utahusisha ujenzi wa shule 10, zahanati 20, masoko 20, kuiwezesha Dawasa kutoa huduma ya utoaji majitaka kutoka asilimia 10 hadi 30, pamoja na ujenzi wa maeneo ya kuhifadhi majitaka.

Ujenzi wa nyumba

Mikakati ya muda mfupi, iliyoanzia Julai 2009 hadi Juni 2010 ikihusisha kuwajengea uwezo na kuwapa utaalamu zaidi mafundi ujenzi pamoja na kuwawezesha wananchi hususan katika ujenzi wa nyumba bora.

Muda wa kati, kuanzia 2010 - 2015 utahusisha uboreshaji na upatikanaji wa vifaa vya ujenzi vilivyo bora na kwa bei nafuu, uboreshaji wa ulipaji fidia, mkopo wa nyumba kwa bei nafuu pamoja na kuwajengea uwezo wenyeviti wa mitaa kwa kuanzisha sheria ndogondogo.

Muda mrefu, itakayoanzia 2016 mpaka 2020 itahusisha ujenzi wa nyumba binafsi za kupangisha, uimarishaji wa namba za nyumba pamoja na kuwajengea uwezo wakazi wenye maisha duni kuendelea kuishi katika nyumba za mijini na si kukimbilia nje ya mji na kujenga nyumba kiholela.

Pamoja na mikakati hiyo baadhi ya wadau wanataka mradi huo kuangalia kwa umakini uwepo wa kambi za jeshi, vituo vya mafuta pamoja na vitu vinavyoweza kusababisha milipuko katika makazi ya watu.

Fedha za kufanikisha mradi zitachangiwa na wadau mbalimbali ikiwemo serikali kuu, Halmashauri ya jiji la Dar es Salaam, nchi wahisani, Un-Habitat, taasisi za kiserikali na zisizo za kiserikali, pamoja na watu binafsi.

Mradi kama huo umekwishafanyika katika nchi nyingi duniani ikiwemo Istanbul, Uturuki uliofanywa mwaka 1960 na mwaka 1995 katika baadhi ya majiji ya Afrika Kusini.

Miji mingine ya Afrika iliyo katika mpango huo ni ya mataifa ya Chad na Burkina Faso.

Tuma maoni kwa Mhariri.

[BUTEMBO21]

^^ damn Kenguy, this thing is too hard, it took me 3 minutes to read and only understood 30% of it.:ohno:

[Kenguy]

^^ damn Kenguy, this thing is too hard, it took me 3 minutes to read and only understood 30% of it.:ohno:

Butembo, can you do me a favour and post an article in Congolese swahili? Then maybe we can compare notes.

[Kwame]

Since no one has anything to say, does anyone want to go over the basics of Kiswahili (alphabet, pronunciations, different dialects, etc)??

[funkydory]

Since no one has anything to say, does anyone want to go over the basics of Kiswahili (alphabet, pronunciations, different dialects, etc)??

It will help me too. I'm a mzungu who works for an African NGO here in England. Don't be shy of including any rude words whatsoever. i want to impress my work colleagues here and be the life and soul of the next garden party i get invited to (2 so far) at the Kenyan High Commissioner's private residence in London:lol::banana:

[Kenguy]

Since no one has anything to say, does anyone want to go over the basics of Kiswahili (alphabet, pronunciations, different dialects, etc)??

The alphabet is the same as the normal one only that there is no letter Q in Swahili. Also all words are built around the vowels A, E, I, O, U (all words also end with a vowel as well.) The vowels are the most dominant sounds when pronouncing swahili words.

Example:

Mama (mother)- mAmA
Habari yako (how are you)-hAbArI yAkO

Damn... I guess I'd make a lousy teacher.

[Kenguy]

It will help me too. I'm a mzungu who works for an African NGO here in England. Don't be shy of including any rude words whatsoever. i want to impress my work colleagues here and be the life and soul of the next garden party i get invited to (2 so far) at the Kenyan High Commissioner's private residence in London:lol::banana:

Maybe you can post words, sentences or phrases you want to know which we can then translate and help with the pronounciation.:)

[BUTEMBO21]

Korth , South Kivu Kiswahili.

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[desert burner]

^^aha, sema hivyo na mbona nime fahamu yote maneneo ya hawa waimbaji:) lakini wewe ukiandika basi sijui hakuna tofauti na mhindi:lol::lol:

[BUTEMBO21]

^^aha, sema hivyo na mbona nime fahamu yote maneneo ya hawa waimbaji:) lakini wewe ukiandika basi sijui hakuna tofauti na mhindi:lol::lol:

Muhindi?lol. ngoya mita kuonesha vile bahindi banasemaka.

Kuandika yetu iko tafaouti kidogo naya Kenya na TZ.

[BUTEMBO21]

Kiswahili ya mu Katanga.

foward at 1:34

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[Kwame]

The alphabet is the same as the normal one only that there is no letter Q in Swahili. Also all words are built around the vowels A, E, I, O, U (all words also end with a vowel as well.) The vowels are the most dominant sounds when pronouncing swahili words.

Example:

Mama (mother)- mAmA
Habari yako (how are you)-hAbArI yAkO

Damn... I guess I'd make a lousy teacher.

Thanks man. Don't be so hard on yourself, this stuff is really going to help me once I enroll in a Kiswahili language course. :)

[Kwame]

A few days ago I found this conscious rap song in Kiswahili that I really like.

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The subtitles say he's talking about the struggles the poor go through on a daily basis in Tanzania.

[Kenguy]

A few days ago I found this conscious rap song in Kiswahili that I really like.

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The subtitles say he's talking about the struggles the poor go through on a daily basis in Tanzania.

I have problems viewing videos at the moment. Guess I will wait until I get to a location with a better connection.

[Kenguy]

Greetings:

The most common; Habari yako (how are you) reply (mzuri) Im fine.

Shikamoo (Hello) Reply: Marahaba. Shikamoo is used when greeting an older individual, especially in Tanzania and the Kenyan coast.

Sabalkheri (Good Morning)

Masalkheri (Good Evening)

Habari za asubuhi (Good morning)

Habari za jioni (Good evening)

Habari za mchana (Good afternoon)

Salaam aleikum (peace be upon you) Reply: Aleikum salaam (peace be upon you too).

Sema. (Hello) Reply: Poa (fine, no problem) Commonly used in most urban areas in Kenya and Tanzania, sort of like slang.

[BUTEMBO21]

Katanga's Swahili.



Nyota TV's Swahili Bora. Kenguy, i'm late , we now have Swahili Bora.
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The same TV has the version of the Swahili Facila( Easy Swahili that is spoken around the city and Katanga).

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[ombithu]

Mimi ni mkenya hapa malaysia anayekienzi sana kiswahili. Nilipokuja kuja hapa nilishangazwa sana na jinsi kiswahili kilivyoenea. Nina marafiki warabu kutoka dubai na saudi arabia ambao hawajahi toka nchi zao kwenda afrika mashariki lakini wanazungumza kiswahili fasaha kabisa (kiunguja) hata ilinibidi niwaitishe paspoti zao kuhakikisha hawajafika afrika mashariki. Waafrika wengine nao kama wazimbabwe na wabotswana hupenda kutuambia tuwatafsirie maneno yote kwa kiswahili, wao hutamani sana kuongea kiswahili. Itakuwa ni vibaya na aibu sana kwetu wakenya kukipuuza kiswahili kwani kuna watu wengine ambao wanatamani hiyo ndiyo ingekuwea lugha yao. Hata hawa wamalaysia wenyewe husema lugha yetu inavutia.

[Kenguy]

Mimi ni mkenya hapa malaysia anayekienzi sana kiswahili. Nilipokuja kuja hapa nilishangazwa sana na jinsi kiswahili kilivyoenea. Nina marafiki warabu kutoka dubai na saudi arabia ambao hawajahi toka nchi zao kwenda afrika mashariki lakini wanazungumza kiswahili fasaha kabisa (kiunguja) hata ilinibidi niwaitishe paspoti zao kuhakikisha hawajafika afrika mashariki. Waafrika wengine nao kama wazimbabwe na wabotswana hupenda kutuambia tuwatafsirie maneno yote kwa kiswahili, wao hutamani sana kuongea kiswahili. Itakuwa ni vibaya na aibu sana kwetu wakenya kukipuuza kiswahili kwani kuna watu wengine ambao wanatamani hiyo ndiyo ingekuwea lugha yao. Hata hawa wamalaysia wenyewe husema lugha yetu inavutia.

Mkenya wa pili kutoka Malaysia hapa SSC. Karibu.:)

[Kenguy]

Katanga's Swahili.



Nyota TV's Swahili Bora. Kenguy, i'm late , we now have Swahili Bora.
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The same TV has the version of the Swahili Facila( Easy Swahili that is spoken around the city and Katanga).


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Is Nyota TV a nationwide station or is it just broadcast in Katanga?

[Kenguy]

Found a short article.

It is an undeniable truth that Arab and Persian cultures had the greatest influence on the Swahili culture and the Swahili language. To demonstrate the contribution of each culture into the Swahili language, take an example of the numbers as they are spoken in Swahili. "moja" = one, "mbili" = two, "tatu" = three, "nne" = four, "tano" = five, "nane" = eight, "kumi" = ten, are all of Bantu origin. On the other hand there is "sita" = six, "saba" = seven and "tisa" = nine, that are borrowed from Arabic. The Arabic word "tisa" actually replaced the Bantu word "kenda" for "nine". In some cases the word "kenda" is still used. The Swahili words, "chai" = tea, "achari" = pickle, "serikali" = government, "diwani" = councillor, "sheha" = village councillor, are some of the words borrowed from Persian bearing testimony to the older connections with Persian merchants.

The Swahili language also absorbed words from the Portuguese who controlled the Swahili coastal towns (c. 1500-1700AD). Some of the words that the Swahili language absorbed from the Portuguese include "leso" (handkerchief), "meza" (table), "gereza" (prison), "pesa" ('peso', money), etc. Swahili bull-fighting, still popular on the Pemba island, is also a Portuguese legacy from that period. The Swahili language also borrowed some words from languages of the later colonial powers on the East African coast - English (British) and German. Swahilized English words include "baiskeli" (bicycle), "basi" (bus), "penseli" (pencil), "mashine" (machine), "koti" (coat), etc. The Swahilized German words include "shule" for school and "hela" for a German coin.

Hassan O. Ali

[BUTEMBO21]

Found a short article.


It is an undeniable truth that Arab and Persian cultures had the greatest influence on the Swahili culture and the Swahili language. To demonstrate the contribution of each culture into the Swahili language, take an example of the numbers as they are spoken in Swahili. "moja" = one, "mbili" = two, "tatu" = three, "nne" = four, "tano" = five, "nane" = eight, "kumi" = ten, are all of Bantu origin. On the other hand there is "sita" = six, "saba" = seven and "tisa" = nine, that are borrowed from Arabic.

MOJA in Coast Swahili and MOYA in Congolese Swahili.

NNE=4; Coest Swahili.

In Congo it's INE=4.



Arabic word "tisa" actually replaced the Bantu word "kenda" for "nine". In some cases the word "kenda" is still used.



Why did you guys change from Bantu ???????:bash:

The Swahili words, "chai" = tea, "achari" = pickle, "serikali" = government, "diwani" = councillor, "sheha" = village councillor, are some of the words borrowed from Persian bearing testimony to the older connections with Persian merchants.

SHAHA= Village councillor Cost Swahili.

MWAMI= Village Councillor in Congo.

The Swahili language also absorbed words from the Portuguese who controlled the Swahili coastal towns (c. 1500-1700AD). Some of the words that the Swahili language absorbed from the Portuguese include "leso" (handkerchief), "meza" (table), "gereza" (prison), "pesa" ('peso', money), etc. Swahili bull-fighting, still popular on the Pemba island, is also a Portuguese legacy from that period.

Lingala also borrowed from portugese MESA = is MESA.[Lingala].

PESA ;Is considered Tanzanian Swahili.[ according to the Kongolese].

But we use MAKUTA. and other Congolese use Franka or Franga [Borrowed from French for " FRANC".]


The Swahili language also borrowed some words from languages of the later colonial powers on the East African coast - English (British) and German. Swahilized English words include "]"baiskeli" (bicycle)[/SIZE], "basi" (bus), "penseli" (pencil), "mashine" (machine), "koti" (coat), etc. The Swahilized German words include "shule" for school and "hela" for a German coin.


SHULE? in Congo it's "MASOMO." and Now Congolese Swahili has borrowed from Lingala " CHIKI"= School.

HELA" ? Iin Congo it's "Kikoroto".

Baisikeli; ? In Congo it's "Kinga."

[Kenguy]

MOJA in Coast Swahili and MOYA in Congolese Swahili.

Do you guys pronounce the Y in Moya or is the spelling just different? Most Congolese I have spoken to pronounce the J part as in MOJA, but maybe its because they are used to speaking the Kenyan version.

PESA ;Is considered Tanzanian Swahili.[ according to the Kongolese].
But we use MAKUTA. and other Congolese use Franka or Franga [Borrowed from French for " FRANC".]

The terms used for money vary from country to country in East Africa. In Kenya and Tanzania its Pesa, in Uganda its Ssente, in Rwanda its Kifaranga or faranga almost like you guys in the DRC.

Baisikeli; ? In Congo it's "Kinga."

Kinga in Kenyan swahili is take care.:lol:

[Kenguy]

Swahili sentences can be combined in one word. Like other Bantu languages, the verb carries the subject or object connected by an affix that denotes the tense.

For example one can say niliongea to mean I had talked.

(Ni)-in this case denotes the subject (I/me) while Ongea means talk. Both the subject and the verb are connected by the affix, (li) which is used in reference to the tense which in this case is the past tense.

If it was in the present continuous tense, the sentence would be (Ninaongea) ie. I am talking.

The future tense would be nitaongea. (I will talk).

[mwanamwiwa]

The terms used for money vary from country to country in East Africa. In Kenya and Tanzania its Pesa, in Uganda its Ssente, in Rwanda its Kifaranga or faranga almost like you guys in the DRC.




Kifaranga?Are they running barter trade or what!(joke).Kenguy,that was a nice article.Kenda must be a bantu name because in Kamba it means nine.

[BUTEMBO21]

Do you guys pronounce the Y in Moya or is the spelling just different? Most Congolese I have spoken to pronounce the J part as in MOJA, but maybe its because they are used to speaking the Kenyan version.

Yes, Moja is usually pronounced when talking to Kenyans or TZns.

In Katanga, Oriental province , Maniema province, Moja doesn't even exist there.
It's mostly used in North and South Kivu provinces because our Swahili is closer to that of Kenya and TZns[ because of lots of Contacts and interactions with you guys.]

The terms used for money vary from country to country in East Africa. In Kenya and Tanzania its Pesa, in Uganda its Ssente, in Rwanda its Kifaranga or faranga almost like you guys in the DRC.

I know about the Ugandan term[ i like their term], In Rwanda Kifaranga/Faranga is borrowed from French [Franc] yeap very close to Congo's [ cause we both Use Francs].



Kinga in Kenyan swahili is take care.:lol:

:lol: interesting.

[desert burner]

^^kinga or kujikinga is protection:) kwa mfano amenunua silaha iliajikinge maadui:lol: how about that:nuts: even though i have been away for sometime i think i am not that bad the fact that kiswahili was my worst subject in high school:)

[BUTEMBO21]

^^kinga or kujikinga is protection:) kwa mfano amenunua silaha iliajikinge maadui:lol: how about that:nuts: even though i have been away for sometime i think i am not that bad the fact that kiswahili was my worst subject in high school:)

you actually good.

Kununua [ Kenya, TZ] = to buy

Kuuza [DRC] = To buy.

[Kenguy]

you actually good.

Kununua [ Kenya, TZ] = to buy

Kuuza [DRC] = To buy.

Kuuza means to sell in Kenya.

[BUTEMBO21]

Kuuza means to sell in Kenya.


We also use Kununua; but Kuuza is more common.




I used to be confused speaking to my Kenyans friends. about Kuuza and Kununua.

I remember my friends mom telling " Sasa?" i had no clue it was a greeting :lol:

I responded, " Sasa nini?":lol:

[Kenguy]

Yes, Moja is usually pronounced when talking to Kenyans or TZns.

In Katanga, Oriental province , Maniema province, Moja doesn't even exist there.
It's mostly used in North and South Kivu provinces because our Swahili is closer to that of Kenya and TZns[ because of lots of Contacts and interactions with you guys.

^^
I met a Congolese guy 3 days ago in Western Uganda and he pronounced Moya with a strong Y emphasis instead of J. Glad you told me about it coz he was talking rather fast and I would have been slightly confused.

[maasai1]

We also use Kununua; but Kuuza is more common.




I used to be confused speaking to my Kenyans friends. about Kuuza and Kununua.

I remember my friends mom telling " Sasa?" i had no clue it was a greeting :lol:

I responded, " Sasa nini?":lol:
Ndugu Butembo, nashangaa vile wajua pia lugha ya kiingereza, kwa vile WaKongomani wengi hawaelewi Kiingereza. Ama umewahi ishi Kenya?:nuts:

[BUTEMBO21]

Ndugu Butembo, nashangaa vile wajua pia lugha ya kiingereza, kwa vile WaKongomani wengi hawaelewi Kiingereza. Ama umewahi ishi Kenya?:nuts:

Mina ishi Amerika njo mana.:lol:

[BUTEMBO21]

^^
I met a Congolese guy 3 days ago in Western Uganda and he pronounced Moya with a strong Y emphasis instead of J. Glad you told me about it coz he was talking rather fast and I would have been slightly confused.

Yea, Y is used in words like. Moya, Mayi, instead of Moja, Maji.

[Kenguy]

Yea, Y is used in words like. Moya, Mayi, instead of Moja, Maji.

^^
For a Kenyan, that can be really confusing. If a Congolese asked for water and said "nataka mayi" I can bet a Kenyan will look at you twice and try asking something like "Mayi? Mayai?...though eventually they will figure it out.

Lakini nilipenda vile huyo Mkongo alivyoongea Swahili. Ungetuona tukicheka tukiongea siasa za nchi zetu, ungefikiria sisi wawili ni marafiki tangu zamani.

[maasai1]

Mina ishi Amerika njo mana.:lol:

ok. I see, that expains something. Kenyans speak British english, which is more gentle, lacking words like 'damn' and others which would be taken to be unpallatable or rude in kenyan/british english.:lol: Americans love curse words like damn, bloody, f**k, s**t, etc.

[maasai1]

More swahili words for Kwame:
Njoo- come, coastals pronounce it 'ndhoo'
enda- go
cheka- laugh
sema- say eg. sema kitu- say something
lala- sleep
kimbia- run
simama- stand up, or stop moving
penda- love, or like
nakupenda- I love you
simu- telephone
gari- motorvehicle
sijui- I don't know

more words to follow soon! kiswahili kidumu!

[BUTEMBO21]

Lakini nilipenda vile huyo Mkongo alivyoongea Swahili. Ungetuona tukicheka tukiongea siasa za nchi zetu, ungefikiria sisi wawili ni marafiki tangu zamani.

Ile ni muzuri, niko na barafiki baKenya California, Rafikiyangu tangu miaka munane.

Mpaka leo siwezi andika kama BaKenya ao BaTanzania.

[BUTEMBO21]

ok. I see, that expains something. Kenyans speak British english, which is more gentle, lacking words like 'damn' and others which would be taken to be unpallatable or rude in kenyan/british english.:lol: Americans love curse words like damn, bloody, f**k, s**t, etc.

Mie Napendaka vile Bangereza bana semaka Kingereza [ alakini Banamuke benyewe].:lol:

[Fazla]

Salam Aleykum :D

I'm really interested in Swahili and have thought about starting to learn it... although unfortunately I don't have any plan to go to a Swahili speaking country in the foreseeable future. I'd like to know how exactly is Swahili spread in Kenya and Tanzania like... does everyone use it?? And in which other countries can you use Swahili? In which countries is it the most useful (this last question could be read as "Which country speaks English or French the least?)

And how good do people speak English or French? Especially educated people, I guess they all have a good command of these languages?


Because studying a language takes a lot of time and willingness and if there's something I'd hate, is having people who getting annoyed by my mistakes immediately switch to English/French...

[Kisumu Ndogo]

Salam Aleykum :D

I'm really interested in Swahili and have thought about starting to learn it... although unfortunately I don't have any plan to go to a Swahili speaking country in the foreseeable future. I'd like to know how exactly is Swahili spread in Kenya and Tanzania like... does everyone use it?? And in which other countries can you use Swahili? In which countries is it the most useful (this last question could be read as "Which country speaks English or French the least?)

And how good do people speak English or French? Especially educated people, I guess they all have a good command of these languages?


Because studying a language takes a lot of time and willingness and if there's something I'd hate, is having people who getting annoyed by my mistakes immediately switch to English/French...

Swahili(Origin corroboration of Arabic & Bantu languages) I believe is one of the easiest languages to learn atleast on the onset of it. In Tanzania-Zanzibar Swahili is very well spread throughout the country and thus spills overs to immediate borders of Mozambique, Zambia, Malawi, DRC, Comoro Is and even Angola(Cabinda). In Kenya Mombasa and Lamu Island speaks the 'sweetest swahili' (Lahaja -Mvita na Amu). In both Kenya and Tanzania its one of the Officially spoken languages alongside english. Although most of the Country communicates in swahili in Kenya, in Nairobi it is 'corrupted' by the entry of Sheng (Largely a mixture of Swahili -English, few French and mainly Bantu languages with few Nilotic words). As you move to the deeper hinterland of Kenya swahili is mixed with other ethnically spoken languages. Uganda also uses Swahili(Military and Politicians mainly) and so is Rwanda and Burundi.

Good thing since swahili is one of the most widely spoken languages in Africa alongside Arabic and Hausa excluding English and French it is taught in most bigger institutions of learning around the world, I would also suggest you try listen to broadcast like BBC Swahili service use Swahili|English dictionary(Kamusi) to look up words you do not understand, wish you best in the endeavor.

[desert burner]

Mie Napendaka vile Bangereza bana semaka Kingereza [ alakini Banamuke benyewe].:lol:

let me try to rewrite what butembo wrote in kenyan version.

mimi napenda vile waengereza wana sema (lugha) kiengereza.(lakini mwanamke mwenyewe)

i hope i get it right:):lol:

[Kenguy]

Salam Aleykum :D

I'd like to know how exactly is Swahili spread in Kenya and Tanzania like... does everyone use it??

And how good do people speak English or French? Especially educated people, I guess they all have a good command of these languages?

In Kenya and Tanzania, almost everyone speaks Swahili. Though in Kenya, English is widely used compared to Tanzania. Rwanda uses all three languages (English, French, Swahili) while Burundi use two (French, Swahili). Uganda uses more English than Swahili.

[BUTEMBO21]

let me try to rewrite what butembo wrote in kenyan version.

mimi napenda vile waengereza wana sema (lugha) kiengereza.(lakini mwanamke mwenyewe)

i hope i get it right:):lol:

Right on target.:lol:

[BUTEMBO21]

Sasa mu ishaka enda wapi?

Na ule mutu ya Ghana?

[maasai1]

Sasa mu ishaka enda wapi?

Na ule mutu ya Ghana?

Ndugu Butembo, naamini unashangaa vile wahusika wa hii sehemu ya SSC hapa wamenyamaza sana. Pia yule ndugu mGhana hatuambii pale amefikia kwa jaribio lake la kujifunza kiswahili. Hata mimi sielewi vile wenzangu wamekuwa kimya hivi. Kiswahili kidumu!:cheers::cheers:

[Kisumu Ndogo]

Ndugu Butembo, naamini unashangaa vile wahusika wa hii sehemu ya SSC hapa wamenyamaza sana. Pia yule ndugu mGhana hatuambii pale amefikia kwa jaribio lake la kujifunza kiswahili. Hata mimi sielewi vile wenzangu wamekuwa kimya hivi. Kiswahili kidumu!:cheers::cheers:

I thought he was from Uganda... Samahani. Nilidhania ni wa kutoka Uganda.

[BUTEMBO21]

Ndugu Butembo, naamini unashangaa vile wahusika wa hii sehemu ya SSC hapa wamenyamaza sana. Pia yule ndugu mGhana hatuambii pale amefikia kwa jaribio lake la kujifunza kiswahili. Hata mimi sielewi vile wenzangu wamekuwa kimya hivi. Kiswahili kidumu!:cheers::cheers:

Si juwe kama baliisha endaka wapi, iko sa ule jamaa ya Ghana hana wakati, ju haku yake ata ku Oasis.