Bangladesh Aviation - Part 5 [Archive] - Page 8

planemannyc

December 23rd, 2009, 12:51 PM

Turkish to Open Istanbul-Dhaka-Ho Chi Minh City in early 2010

http://atwonline.com/news/story.html?storyID=18896

[I]THY's path to global influence includes Australia, narrowbody amenities

While Turkish Airlines' network and bottom line continue to grow, CEO Temel Kotil admitted to ATWOnline that more is needed to fulfill his ambition to make the carrier a global player--"I'm not satisfied with our image," he said.

Speaking to this website in Istanbul, Kotil said THY still has work to do in establishing and increasing the public's confidence in its brand. "We have to show the people that TK is already offering a top product. So far, the [lack of] awareness of our brand is a big problem." He said he is considering increasing the advertising budget.

THY was TRY476 million ($312 million) in the black through the first nine months and was the fourth-largest carrier in terms of passengers boarded among Assn. of European Airlines members. It currently operates 131 aircraft on 119 international and 32 domestic routes and is planning a 2010 capacity increase in excess of 20% (ATWOnline, Dec. 14). It flew 36.5 billion RPKs in the first 11 months of 2009, up 15.9% from the year-ago period. Capacity rose 21.5% to 51.3 billion ASKs and load factor fell 3.4 points to 71.1%.

"We will add about 10 new destinations every year," Kotil said. Thrice-weekly Istanbul Ataturk-Dhaka-Ho Chi Minh City service is set to go in early 2010 and Australia is on the agenda. "We already have an office there and there are so many potential passengers, we could fill up two long-haul planes per week." Surprisingly, none of THY's 12 European Star Alliance partners currently offer a direct flight to Australia. He offered no further details on the plans for Down Under. Turkishairlines.com.au currently is "under construction."

Kotil said that while he'd like to have a global footprint "tomorrow," he is confident that THY is "not far away." He envisions a place among the planet's top 10 airlines within five years. "In terms of quality, we should be on top," he said.

A focus on holding down costs will not come at the expense of service. "We went to give more to passengers," he said, and the airline is taking an alternate route from competitors who have found savings in the cabin. "If you reduce your service to save money, you're making a mistake," he said.

THY is installing fixed business class cabins on its single-aisle fleet and removing the adjustable cabin divider. It will offer 16-20 business class seats on its A320 family and 737 aircraft. "We will offer 45 in. of legroom in business class and 31 in. in economy. We want to be better than the others. If the others follow us, then we'll install lie-flat seats, even in the single-aisle fleet," Kotil said. Twenty-five 737-800s are being reconfigured, with full inflight entertainment systems installed in both business class and economy. Four aircraft have been completed.

THY is set to announce an order for 20 narrowbody aircraft from either Airbus or Boeing soon. It it chooses the 737, it will consider the -900 as well.

by Kurt Hofmann

I guess last month's BD-Turkey aviation agreement was meant more for THY and not United Airways (which I still don't know has DAC-IST or DXB-IST or IST-LGW rights, and have read somewhere that they do not use Attaturk airport - which is IST's main airport).

China Southern
Afriqiyah
THY

Not bad, all new flights from destinations not previously connected to DAC before. THY shoud be able to capitalize on BA void and USA traffic if they have good connecting times. Good to see direct SGN connection as well. Too bad Afriqiyah did not start DAC-MNL sector. At least CZ has CAN service - but that must be the least publicized flight of all -- even China Southern's website does not have it listed.

Best,

Wasim / Planemannyc

Manazir

December 23rd, 2009, 01:10 PM

^^
good news indeed, however, can TK do well in DAC-Ho Chi Minh route? what u think?

btw, is KQ (kenyan) still opting to start DAC flights or something?

Galive

December 24th, 2009, 03:36 AM

^^
good news indeed, however, can TK do well in DAC-Ho Chi Minh route? what u think?

btw, is KQ (kenyan) still opting to start DAC flights or something?

Another good news Biman earn more money than previous year. Biman earn 240million tk at 2008-09 financial year.

http://www.vromonbd.com/jsp/news/newsDetails.jsp?ID=44

Moin

December 24th, 2009, 07:18 PM

Private airline United Airways added a new plane to its fleet on Thursday.

Bought from Rumania, the Macdonell Douglas MD-83 has 155 seats and is the third aircraft purchased outright by United Airways, the airline said in a statement.

The airline now runs four international and four internal routes.

A spokesman for the airline said the new plane will be used to introduce flights from Dhaka to Kathmandu and Bangkok.

It will also be operated on existing flights from Dhaka to London, Dubai and Kuala Lumpur.

United Airways began its journey in July 2007 with two Canadian Dash-8-100 planes, which each have 37 seats.

http://biz.bdnews24.com/details.php?id=149520&cid=4&us=tmrts8m1lcadmsjp381qt42ef3

Manazir

December 24th, 2009, 08:46 PM

^^
OMG! Another MAD DOG!!! Grrrrrr!

HereWeGo

December 24th, 2009, 10:08 PM

Another good news Biman earn more money than previous year. Biman earn 240million tk at 2008-09 financial year.

http://www.vromonbd.com/jsp/news/newsDetails.jsp?ID=44

OMG Biman making a PROFITTTTT :banana:

That too 3 years in a row now.....someone must have done something right lately....

looking forward to travelling on biman once we have the new aircrafts....:)

BA7E7

December 25th, 2009, 12:04 AM

^^
OMG! Another MAD DOG!!! Grrrrrr!

OH NO or is it OH YES another mad dog has been purchased outright by United Airways, :bash:

What is worng with thier brain i mean check this quote on the daily star,

Tasbirul Ahmed Choudhury said “We are trying to face challenges of recession,” and “Many airlines have succumbed to the challenge, but we definitely want to survive and increase our fleet as this is the right time to procure desired aircraft.”

Now they are trying to face challenges of recession. so, since when an MD 83 has become desired aircraft in recession.

it reminds me of gmg airlines, and for the sake of everyone involved i love to see them do well, but i hope they'r not pressing self-destruct button.

www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=119211

Manazir

December 25th, 2009, 07:48 AM

^^
LOL let us destroy the Mad Dogs :D

Galive

December 25th, 2009, 05:21 PM

OMG Biman making a PROFITTTTT :banana:

That too 3 years in a row now.....someone must have done something right lately....

looking forward to travelling on biman once we have the new aircrafts....:)

Actually we the people of Bangladesh when find any good news of country then we become so proud. It always happened to me. It doesn't mean I am a patriot(a big word) but that means I want good for Bangladesh.

Biman's new 737 is very useful for me. Especially for the regional route. It's seat size will be good as it has 30inch seat and total 175 pax capacity which means all standard economy.
no more jet airways.
very good.:)

TIslam

December 26th, 2009, 05:23 AM

Galive

December 26th, 2009, 10:44 AM

When did this happen? It seems it fell from everybody's radar while the focus was on the 777s. Who did Biman engage for the aircraft? I mean was it a company-to-company (GOL-BG) direct arrangement or was there a third party (middleman) involved?

A single aircraft may not be sufficient to cover all the regional routes adequately.

No it is not all about 737. It is also for 777. but thing is that the news ^^that makes 777 uncertain.
From my point of view i don't know, why reregistration from 248ton to 278(about) ton.
Actually I don't know it?

Can any body say detail ?

TIslam

December 26th, 2009, 12:47 PM

No it is not all about 737. It is also for 777. but thing is that the news ^^that makes 777 uncertain.
From my point of view i don't know, why reregistration from 248ton to 278(about) ton.
Actually I don't know it?

Can any body say detail ?

I'm afraid I don't follow. :dunno:

BA7E7

December 26th, 2009, 04:22 PM

When did this happen? It seems it fell from everybody's radar while the focus was on the 777s. Who did Biman engage for the aircraft? I mean was it a company-to-company (GOL-BG) direct arrangement or was there a third party (middleman) involved?

A single aircraft may not be sufficient to cover all the regional routes adequately.

As stated by Iasif bhai they are getting 2x B737-800s from GECAS and due to join Biman's fleet in January 2010.

Here is another picture of S2-AFL

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_onCJHil7fG0/SzFaEZjmVuI/AAAAAAAAATE/M3dcMbzc6Gk/s1600/S2-AFL%2B(ex%2BPR-GOZ)%2BFeldmann%2B22.12.09.jpg

AeroGeeK

December 26th, 2009, 07:47 PM

The idiots really left the engines unmarked. Should've put some logo or something. White engines don't look good. Why don't they re-do the livery?

akbar1

December 26th, 2009, 10:47 PM

The idiots really left the engines unmarked. Should've put some logo or something. White engines don't look good. Why don't they re-do the livery?

coun't agree with you more bro.

BA7E7

December 27th, 2009, 01:13 AM

The idiots really left the engines unmarked. Should've put some logo or something. White engines don't look good. Why don't they re-do the livery?

It will take them four decades to change this livery just like the current one bro.:lol: reminds me of green paddy field in bangldesh, nice but bland.

The aircraft look naked and cold, they could have used bit more red color and maybe the management wishing to clean their lifelong sins they have commited, and portray biman as cleaner greener airlines free from Corruption. and if so, only time will tell.?

HereWeGo

December 27th, 2009, 01:36 AM

manbil777

December 27th, 2009, 02:05 AM

I know a lot of people hate the new livery, but i absolutely love it.
Beauty resides in the eyes of the beholder....
however i would have liked to give some colour to the engine...may be the swan symbol that is used on the new one at the wing....

In most cases the engine logos are customized heatproof die-cut stickers. Not a big deal to order some if you ask me.

golden_falcon

December 27th, 2009, 04:53 AM

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Galive

December 27th, 2009, 07:44 AM

Galive, you're not making any sense again! Can you please read the post before you quote it or attempt to answer to it!

What is so uncertain about the 777's? I think iasif made it pretty clear in his previous posts, of which there were several!

However I will attempt to clarify the matter for you, in a simple manner.

The aircraft in question were manufactured as 777-200ER's, however as Singapore Airlines used these aircraft on regional services, the extra performance was not required. Therefore Singapore Airlines de-rated them to 777-200's, by removing fuel tank(s) & downgrading the engine management software, which resulted to reduced weight & performance and certification at a lower weight. Which subsequently led to reduced landing fees.

During the sale process SQ marketed these aircraft as 777-200ER, which is what euroAtlantic purchased. Therefore the aircrafts have got to be re-graded to ER spec's, prior to delivery. And anyone with any wisdom of the aviation industry should be in possession of the knowledge that an aircraft must be re-certified after each & every modification that alters the aircrafts performance & characteristics.

I hope this diminishes any uncertainties you harbor.

Thank you for making sense of my massage. Now I have no confusion about ER recertification.

Thank you again. Sorry for making no sense.

zobbified

December 27th, 2009, 02:27 PM

Therefore Singapore Airlines de-rated them to 777-200's, by removing fuel tank(s) & downgrading the engine management software, which resulted to reduced weight & performance and certification at a lower weight.

Since when were the fuel tanks removed? SQ 772s are just paper de-rated.

iasif

December 27th, 2009, 04:44 PM

Galive

December 28th, 2009, 03:48 AM

Right. The fuel tanks were always there, just not all (probably the center) were being used while it was certified at 257 tons.

Magical triple 7. Actually we are waiting for JFK touch, a good big aircraft and hopefully it will be 777-200ER. Nice the day of delivary is not far from today. Nice really nice.
By this date of 2010 Biman will have
2 777-200ER
2 737-800
3 A310
3 DC-10(one will be out as I know)
2 F-28

Hope we will right about arrival of 777-300ER the gaint engine.

golden_falcon

December 28th, 2009, 05:11 AM

Since when were the fuel tanks removed? SQ 772s are just paper de-rated.

Right. The fuel tanks were always there, just not all (probably the center) were being used while it was certified at 257 tons.

Gentlemen, I stand corrected, an oversight on my part. I sourced the information from asif bhai's letter to BG but misread the part regarding the centre fuel tank. Perhaps I should have followed my advise & read the information properly before posting.

My apologies & thank you for the information.

iamkarib

December 28th, 2009, 04:19 PM

The delivery date of the 737 is 7th Jan(fingers crossed)can anybody confirm that?

Clipper747

December 28th, 2009, 05:37 PM

Sorry off topic.
Can some one help me do a calculation. on a Boeing 757-300WL 100 PAX with extra fuel tanks. can it achieve 4500nm range and if it does how much fuel is it burning ie gallons plus what is the Fuel cost for 4500nm

Also Boeing 737-800/900 with 60 pax and extra fuel tanks can that achieve 4500nm and if not what would be the max range. fuel used and cost for that range

Thanks to any one willing to help

........................

planemannyc

December 28th, 2009, 08:47 PM

BDAV

December 28th, 2009, 09:30 PM

Does anyone know why United's flight from LGW was canceled on Sun Dec 27?

I saw the flight listed as "Canceled" in the online departure list. I am assuming the inbound flight on Sat was also canceled.

Thanks,

Wasim / Planemannyc

I would imagine it wasn't worth burning the money, afterall who would like to fly for 15 hours + on an "unfit" aircraft when they can just take a comfortable 8-10 hour flight for the same price or cheaper?

BA7E7

December 29th, 2009, 12:10 AM

Hi guys

Does anyone know the registration number of united airways new MD-83 purchased from Romania, also can you post any images of the aircraft you may have, i'll greatly appreciate your help.

Thanks :)

TIslam

December 29th, 2009, 09:16 AM

Does anyone know why United's flight from LGW was canceled on Sun Dec 27?

I saw the flight listed as "Canceled" in the online departure list. I am assuming the inbound flight on Sat was also canceled.

Thanks,

Wasim / Planemannyc

When the operation consists of a single aircraft, anything that can go wrong, will. According to Murphy.

Manazir

December 29th, 2009, 10:29 AM

^^
soo agreed, and this is just the beginning, who knws, they might be forced to suspend the route even cuz a Mad Dog doesnt deserve this route!

Clipper747

December 30th, 2009, 07:27 AM

Any one know anything about this aircraf S2-ADT

http://static.planespotters.net/media/photos/original/079000/PlanespottersNet_079257.jpg

HERE IS ONE OF ZOOMhttp://airlinersgallery.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/zoom-airways-rak-aviation-l-1011-385-1-f-s2-aet-thai-sky-csgrd-shj-pdnlr.jpg?w=500&h=341

http://l.yimg.com/g/images/spaceball.gif

http://www.jetphotos.net/news/media/userfiles/2812912818.jpg.400.jpg

Best Air (Bangladesh) (Dhaka) commenced domestic passenger operations in Bangladesh on January 14 flying between Dhaka and Chittagong with an ex-Phuket Air 737-2B7 HS-VKK (msn 23131). The company actually started operations in 1999 with a helicopter and graduated to a cargoairline in 2000. It also added two 748s in 2004. Two more 737s will be added to the fleet shortly. The first phase will see the airline grow to serve Bangkok, Kolkata, Kunming, Madras and Sylhet. In the second phase it will expand to Europe, the Far East, the Middle East and the United States with wide-body aircraft

http://aviation-safety.net/photos/aircraft/19980627-0-P-d-1-500.jpg

http://aviation-safety.net/photos/aircraft/750/19840805-1-P-d-1-750.jpg

http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/viewphoto.main?LC=nav2&picid=4693

http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/viewphoto.main?LC=nav2&picid=6027

http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/photos/icons/01s2-adw-ICON.jpg

Clipper747

December 30th, 2009, 08:03 AM

EUROPEAN AIRLINE SCENE - WEEK ENDING 05-12-09

Bangladesh Biman will soon receive its first leased B772. Former Singapore A/L example 9V-SRA (28513) made an acceptance flight painted all white at Singapore on 30/11.

iamkarib

December 30th, 2009, 05:26 PM

[QUOTE=Clipper747;49242015]Any one know anything about this aircraf S2-ADT

http://static.planespotters.net/media/photos/original/079000/PlanespottersNet_079257.jpg

Air Bangladesh operated a Boeing 747-269B with the registration mark S2-ADT, is on the List of air carriers banned in the EU.

The rationale for the decision by the European Commission was the following(and they had a damn good reason!!!)

* During ramp inspections performed by German authorities under the SAFA programme evidence of serious safety deficiencies on the part of Air Bangladesh with regard to a certain aircraft of its fleet came to light (LBA-D-2005-0003, LBA-D-2005-0004 and LBA-D-2005-0004).
* Air Bangladesh, did not respond adequately and timely to an enquiry by the civil aviation authority of Germany regarding the safety aspects of its operation. This demonstrates in the opinion of the Commission a lack of transparency or communication. Upon the date that the ban was imposed (March 22, 2006) the member state had not had any opportunity to verify whether the safety deficiencies had been corrected.
* The regulatory authorities of Bangladesh, which have the responsibility for regulatory oversight of Air Bangladesh, have not exercised an adequate oversight on one specific aircraft used by this carrier in accordance with the obligations imposed on them under the Chicago Convention.
* Therefore and on the basis of the common criteria[1] the Commission assessed that Air Bangladesh should be submitted to a strict operational restriction.

As of 31 December 2007, ex S2-ADT re-registered as N801KH,has been scrapped at the former RAF Ahlhorn air base in Germany and Kitty Hawk Collateral Liquidating Trust now owns the a/c.:ohno:

rinathq

January 1st, 2010, 11:55 AM

Happy new year everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Galive

January 1st, 2010, 05:10 PM

Happy new year everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My hope was new year = Aviation part 6 = 777 matter + photo + many many reply
Aviation 6 = 737-800 for regional route.

Aviation 6 = resume of hongkong, bangkok, delhi route by Biman

Aviation 6= new livery of Biman

Aviation 6= 767 of 4H

and what ???:)

Happy new year or Shuvo Nobo Borsho ???

Manazir

January 1st, 2010, 05:42 PM

^^
happy new year to all :)

golden_falcon

January 1st, 2010, 05:48 PM

Happy new year everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A happy & prosperous 2010 to all at skyscrappercity :cheers1:

Clipper747

January 2nd, 2010, 12:41 AM

http://i.123g.us/c/eapr_bengalinewyear/th/111038_th.gif

Clipper747

January 2nd, 2010, 01:55 AM

Mr Imran Asif hope you remember the 24hre deal. happy new year

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BA7E7

January 2nd, 2010, 01:48 PM

Mr Imran Asif hope you remember the 24hre deal. happy new year

.....................

http://www.buzzvines.com/files/images/HNY.preview.jpg

He'll remember alright ohhh the excitement i can't wait, a very happy new year to everyone at skyscrapercity and especially you Mr Imran Asif. :applause: hope it brings happiness, prosperity and good health to you all. :)

iasif

January 2nd, 2010, 06:07 PM

http://www.buzzvines.com/files/images/HNY.preview.jpg

He'll remember alright ohhh the excitement i can't wait, a very happy new year to everyone at skyscrapercity and especially you Mr Imran Asif. :applause: hope it brings happiness, prosperity and good health to you all. :)

Honestly, I'm a little confused! What was this "24hr deal" again? Not that I'm disowning anything, but I just can't remember! Anything to do with the 777 delivery?

Manazir

January 2nd, 2010, 06:10 PM

Lets hope we see some more improvements in Biman and the Bangladeshi aviation sector :)

BA7E7

January 2nd, 2010, 06:54 PM

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BA7E7

January 2nd, 2010, 06:56 PM

Honestly, I'm a little confused! What was this "24hr deal" again? Not that I'm disowning anything, but I just can't remember! Anything to do with the 777 delivery?

Yes imran bhai as clipper747 stated give us 24hrs notice before the delivery of biman 777 take place, i'm sure you will be there along with many others for that historic moment, and "capture planty of photos for us" wont you imran bhai. :)

BA7E7

January 2nd, 2010, 08:13 PM

Banks to offer Biman $114m

A syndicate of nine local banks has finalised a proposal to give Biman Bangladesh Airlines Ltd a loan of $114.75 million for procuring two aircraft from Boeing.

This is the first time after the country's independence that local banks are giving such a big loan to a government agency in foreign currency.

Biman is taking the $114.75 million loan from the local banks' syndicate led by Eastern Bank Ltd at a low interest rate of 4.57 percent.

The civil aviation and tourism ministry yesterday sought approval of the cabinet committee on economic affairs for waiving the conditions of Public Procurement Act for the pre-delivery payment to Boeing.

It also sought waiver of the suppliers' credit rules for taking commercial loans in foreign currency.

Biman signed an agreement with Boeing in 2008 during the caretaker government's rule to purchase 10 aircraft for $1.31 billion to strengthen the fleet of the national flag carrier.

As per the agreement, Biman has already paid Boeing $11.96 million for buying the planes.

Boeing is supposed to supply the two aircraft in 2011 for $424 million.

Biman will pay Boeing $114.75 million immediately as pre-delivery payment.

Ministry sources said the US-based Ex-Im Bank would finance for the rest.

The syndicate of the local banks also includes Brac Bank, National Bank, IFIC Bank, The City Bank, AB Bank, Prime Bank, Premier Bank and Citi Bank NA.

Bangladesh Bank will provide these banks with the foreign exchange against local currency, said a high official of Eastern Bank.

The ministry sources said they had written to 31 banks and financial organisations, seeking the loan and eight banks and financial institutes submitted proposals. The interest rate proposed by Eastern Bank was the lowest.

The bank's Managing Director Ali Reza Iftekhar yesterday told The Daily Star that they kept the interest rate as low as possible considering the national interest.

http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=120238

Clipper747

January 3rd, 2010, 06:04 AM

This is the very Aircraft biman is leasing from ILFC AIRBUS A310-325ET MSN 642
as you can see its been around 3-3-3 seating configuration

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/2/0/5/0923502.jpg

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/0/9/0/0390090.jpg

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/3/7/3/0959373.jpg

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/6/6/0/1284066.jpg

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/2/8/0/0478082.jpg

http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/aVD0lq6K06M/default.jpg
.................................

BA7E7

January 3rd, 2010, 01:56 PM

Hi Clipper747, any idea when (date) this airbus due to join biman.

Galive

January 3rd, 2010, 03:17 PM

Hi Clipper747, any idea when (date) this airbus due to join biman.

As I know it is on mid March.
^^

iasif

January 3rd, 2010, 05:10 PM

As I know it is on mid March.
^^

Late January perhaps.

Clipper747

January 3rd, 2010, 06:14 PM

Hi Clipper747, any idea when (date) this airbus due to join biman.

This is the only document i found. looks like some time this month

ILFC Home
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BIMAN BANGLADESH AIRLINES LEASES ONE (1) USED AIRBUS A310-300 AIRCRAFT FROM ILFC
Century City, CA, December 23, 2009 — International Lease Finance Corporation (ILFC), a wholly-owned subsidiary of American International Group, Inc. (NYSE: AIG), announced the lease placement of one (1) used Airbus A310-300 aircraft to BIMAN BANGLADESH AIRLINES.

BIMAN BANGLADESH AIRLINES, based in Dhaka, Bangladesh leased one (1) used Airbus A310-300 aircraft from ILFC. The aircraft, MSN 642, is powered by PW4156A engines and is scheduled to deliver in January 2010. The lease term is for 3 years.

ILFC is the international market leader in the leasing and remarketing of advanced technology commercial jet aircraft to airlines around the world. ILFC owns a portfolio valued at more than $ 50 billion, consisting of more than 1,000 jet aircraft.

American International Group, Inc. (AIG), a world leader in insurance and financial services, is the leading international insurance organization with operations in more than 130 countries and jurisdictions. AIG companies serve commercial, institutional and individual customers through the most extensive worldwide property-casualty and life insurance networks of any insurer. In addition, AIG companies are leading providers of retirement services, financial services and asset management around the world. AIG\'s common stock is listed on the New York Stock Exchange, as well as the stock exchanges in Paris and Tokyo.

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Manazir

January 3rd, 2010, 06:34 PM

^^
lol that Oman Air is old story :P

BA7E7

January 3rd, 2010, 07:50 PM

Late January perhaps.

This is the only document i found. looks like some time this month

ILFC Home
Home Introduction Aircraft Types Worldwide Customers Press Releases Investor Information ILFC's Leadership Team

return to press releases
BIMAN BANGLADESH AIRLINES LEASES ONE (1) USED AIRBUS A310-300 AIRCRAFT FROM ILFC
Century City, CA, December 23, 2009 — International Lease Finance Corporation (ILFC), a wholly-owned subsidiary of American International Group, Inc. (NYSE: AIG), announced the lease placement of one (1) used Airbus A310-300 aircraft to BIMAN BANGLADESH AIRLINES.

BIMAN BANGLADESH AIRLINES, based in Dhaka, Bangladesh leased one (1) used Airbus A310-300 aircraft from ILFC. The aircraft, MSN 642, is powered by PW4156A engines and is scheduled to deliver in January 2010. The lease term is for 3 years.

ILFC is the international market leader in the leasing and remarketing of advanced technology commercial jet aircraft to airlines around the world. ILFC owns a portfolio valued at more than $ 50 billion, consisting of more than 1,000 jet aircraft.

American International Group, Inc. (AIG), a world leader in insurance and financial services, is the leading international insurance organization with operations in more than 130 countries and jurisdictions. AIG companies serve commercial, institutional and individual customers through the most extensive worldwide property-casualty and life insurance networks of any insurer. In addition, AIG companies are leading providers of retirement services, financial services and asset management around the world. AIG\'s common stock is listed on the New York Stock Exchange, as well as the stock exchanges in Paris and Tokyo.

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Copyright © 1999-2009 International Lease Finance Corporation. All rights reserved. | Contact Us

Thank you so much gentlemen's. :)

Clipper747

January 3rd, 2010, 08:52 PM

Thank you so much gentlemen's. :)

no problem brov

planemannyc

January 4th, 2010, 01:56 AM

BA7E7

January 4th, 2010, 05:23 PM

United's Gatwick-Dhaka flight late taking off by almost 12 hours

Does anyone know what's up? I know United is scheduled to start KTM services on Mon Jan 4.

The LGW flight was supposed to take off at 13:35 local time, but as on 00:47 on Monday, it was on "Last Call". Seems like they have been having a lot of delays of late.

Best,

Wasim / Planemannyc

They have become a joke operating this route with MD-83, 12 hour late? :ohno: i don't want to be a passenger of 4H and start my journy with a huge delay, no sane person would!. they should suspend operation until they acquire 2x b767-300er or A330s "if possible? that is". and how long do you guys think they can keep in existence before going under?.

planemannyc

January 4th, 2010, 05:48 PM

Biman to receive first B777-200ER on Jan 15?

From FE-BD

Biman to receive first fuel-efficient Boeing 777-200ER

Mashiur Rahaman

State-owned Biman Bangladesh Airlines is likely to receive its first fuel-efficient Boeing 777-200ER aircraft on January 15 to upgrade its fleet.

The national flag carrier signed an agreement to procure two wide-body Boeing-777-200ER category aircraft from a Portuguese leasing company mainly to resume its operation to Dhaka-New York routes.

"Euro Atlantic Airways, the leasing company, has assured us to supply the first leased aircraft," Biman's Managing Director and Chief Executive Officer Air Commodore (Retd) Muhammed Zakiul Islam told the FE.

Biman intends to operate flights on Dhaka-London-Dhaka and Dhaka-Singapore-Dhaka routes with the newly acquired passenger carrier, instead of starting flights to America.

"Passenger demands in these two routes are very high at the moment," Mr. Islam said adding that some formalities, mandatory to commence NY flights are yet to be completed.

Biman's board signed a letter of intent with a Lisbon-based Euro Atlantic Airways for leasing 323-seater two Boeing 777-200ER aircraft as it faced serious aircraft shortage to operate its scheduled 18 international destinations.

Biman's fleet has been reduced to five from as 13 early this year, due to expiry of lease period of two aircraft and frequent technical groundings of age-old planes.

The board had also decided to hire another two Boeing 777 planes before the end of the year, as the government-owned carrier went on the overdrive to phase out its outdated DC-10 aircraft and ease an acute crisis of air-worthy fleet.

Representative of the Euro Atlantic has confirmed the information and said the second leased aircraft would be supplied on due time as per agreement.

Over 300,000 Bangladeshis live in the USA have been demanding resumption of the air operation for long. The national flag carrier cancelled its flights in this particular route at the end of 2006 amid operating loss to the tune of Tk 7.5 million (Tk 75 lakh) per flight. Biman used to operate two weekly flights to New York by DC 10-30 aircraft.

Restoration of this particular air-operation was a part of the election manifesto of the ruling Awami League government.

Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina during her visit assured non-resident Bangladeshis living in NY early 2009 of meeting their demand of Dhaka-NY operation by the national flag carrier prior to December 2009.

http://thefinancialexpress-bd.com/more.php?page=detail_news&news_id=88663

Moin

January 4th, 2010, 08:42 PM

United Airways (BD) Limited started its Dhaka-Kathmandu operation Monday with a 155-seater MD-83 aircraft, reports UNB.

United Airways currently operates its flights from Dhaka to London, Dubai, Kuala Lumpur, Kolkata, Chittagong, Jessore, Sylhet and Cox's Bazar, and also from Chittagong to Kolkata.

The one-way special fare for Dhaka-Kathmandu is Tk 5,621 and return fare Tk 8,189 (exclusive of all taxes).

Weekly four flights to Kathmandu will be operated Monday and Thursday Dhaka dep. 1530 Hrs and Tuesday and Friday Dhaka dep. 0730 Hrs.

United Airways began its operation on July 10, 2007.

Managing Director of the airlines Capt Tasbirul Ahmed Choudhury said, "United will initially operate four flights a week on Dhaka-Kathmandu route… we are scheduled to start Dhaka-Bangkok (flight) by January 2010. By mid of 2010, we'll start Dhaka-Jeddah route by Boeing 767-300ER."

http://www.thefinancialexpress-bd.com/more.php?news_id=88666

BDAV

January 4th, 2010, 10:18 PM

BA7E7

January 5th, 2010, 04:19 AM

^^This is the much delayed United Airways MD-83 at London Gatwick (03 January 2010) notice the cheap paint jobs on the tail peeling off just like their flight schedule. :lol:

http://static.planespotters.net/photo/119000/950/PlanespottersNet_119434.jpg

Clipper747

January 5th, 2010, 06:02 AM

S2-ADE

January 5th, 2010, 06:39 AM

Hello everybody....:hi:

Clipper747

January 5th, 2010, 06:41 AM

Hello everybody....:hi:

Welcome to La La Land

S2-ADE

January 5th, 2010, 06:43 AM

Go back to La La Land

I say, this is a very unfriendly forum.
I think I shall take my leave now!
Good bye everybody...:cripes:

Clipper747

January 5th, 2010, 06:45 AM

I say, this a very unfriendly forum.
I think I shall leave now!
Good bye everybody...:cripes:

That was also the fate of the last S2-ADE. YOU NO WHATS GOOD FOR YOU :devil:

http://www.aerocontact.com/medias/img/head120307i.jpg

Clipper747

January 5th, 2010, 07:25 AM

Do you want me to fill in the gaps MR 2 face

http://ricodebuco.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/two-face1.jpg
. ^^......................................^^
. ????_????...................................S2-ADE

:bash:

....................................

S2-ADE

January 5th, 2010, 07:32 AM

Do you want me to fill in the gaps MR 2 face

http://ricodebuco.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/two-face1.jpg
^^ ^^
. ????_????...................................S2-ADE

:bash:

....................................

Take it easy Hommer!!!

http://www.999bobfm.com/cms_images/homer%20simpson.jpg

Clipper747

January 5th, 2010, 07:34 AM

Take it easy Hommer!!!

http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/blog/david_frank/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/homer_simpson-41.jpg

THATS Mr Hommer Simpson to you boy

BA7E7

January 5th, 2010, 02:04 PM

Welcome to La La Land

I say, this is a very unfriendly forum.
I think I shall take my leave now!
Good bye everybody...:cripes:

Unfriendly forum? whats your motive? word of advice don't get on the wrong side of Mr Hommer Simpson. :bash:

Manazir

January 5th, 2010, 05:32 PM

^^
ok funny though, but it looks more like a Simpsons-gangster-Biman forum now :D

Clipper747

January 5th, 2010, 08:32 PM

^^
ok funny though, but it looks more like a Simpsons-gangster-Biman forum now :D

Im sorry guy's got a bit carried away there. well im back to biman land now :angel1: :guns1:

verbatim00

January 5th, 2010, 08:49 PM

12 hours is a very long time indeed!

Anyone know what caused the delay?

more like 10+ hours rest for the same crew set to be flying back...

planemannyc

January 6th, 2010, 01:04 AM

United 4H597 delayed by 12 hours (again!)

http://www.gatwickairport.com/portal/page/Gatwick^General^Flight+information^Live+flight+arrivals/

Sched.
Time Flight
number Coming From Status Terminal
Tue 5 January 2010
10:45 BD8121 MANCHESTER EXPECTED 1330 South Terminal
19:20 EZY5414 BERLIN EXPECTED 2205 South Terminal
19:25 BE356 LEEDS/BRADFORD South Terminal
19:50 4R7309 BANJUL EXPECTED 2330 South Terminal
20:10 4H597 DHAKA VIA ISTANBUL DUE WED 1015 South Terminal

I bet the return will fly out 12 hours late as well. What is up with United?

MohammedC

January 6th, 2010, 04:23 AM

This time united may have a good excuse as Gatwick airport has been shut for severe weather condition.

Clipper747

January 6th, 2010, 08:48 AM

Does any one know if the new 737-800 been delivered to biman yet fro ILFC it should be any day now

TIslam

January 6th, 2010, 04:36 PM

This time united may have a good excuse as Gatwick airport has been shut for severe weather condition.

Does anybody know of anybody who has used 4H on this DAC-LGW route? How's their experience, what is their opinion?

planemannyc

January 6th, 2010, 05:51 PM

CAAB begins meeting with BCAD for flight operation in UK

FE Report

The Civil Aviation Authority of Bangladesh (CAAB) Wednesday began a two-day agreement evaluation meeting with the British Civil Aviation Department (BCAD) aiming to negotiate for flight operation permission to different destinations in UK.

The meeting also aimed at convincing the British authority to allow flights on Dhaka-Manchester-New York route in order to resume flights to the USA, CAAB office source said.

Secretary, Ministry of Civil Aviation & Tourism Shafiq Alam Mehdi inaugurated the meeting as chief guest at the CAAB headquarters in presence of representatives from Biman Bangladesh Airlines, British Airways, GMG Airlines and United Airways BD Limited.

http://thefinancialexpress-bd.com/more.php?page=detail_news&news_id=88879

------------------------

So, they don't have clearance for MAN-JFK-MAN yet they are beating their chests stating flight is imminent? Should this meeting not taken place at least one year back? So what happens if the British authorities deny this request?

Best,

Wasim / Planemannyc

stan00

January 6th, 2010, 07:04 PM

planemannyc

January 6th, 2010, 07:24 PM

A new-look Biman in sight

From the Daily Star

Biman Bangladesh Airlines is expected to rebrand itself, bringing changes to its livery and logo.

In sync with promises to improve services both in air and on the ground, Biman plans to come up with a new look in the third week of January.

Four leased aircraft, now being painted with the new logo, will join the Biman fleet this month.

"We want to infuse new life into Biman so it can be a truly commercially viable airline,” Biman's Managing Director and Chief Executive Muhammad Zakiul Islam told The Daily Star. “We want to bring a feeling of change."

He said Biman wants to launch the 38-year-old state-owned carrier with new livery and promises.

Balaka, the logo of Biman, will be there but in a modified shape. “The logo will be more dynamic, lively and forward-looking," the Biman MD said.

But artists differed on the move to modify the logo designed by the late painter Quamrul Hassan.

"No-one should have the right to tamper with other's works. Why is it necessary to change the logo when it has become popular, both at home and abroad?” said Prof Hashem Khan, a noted painter.

But Kazi Wahidul Alam, editor of aviation and tourism fortnightly The Bangladesh Monitor, said any logo has an impact. “There should be an element of motion in the Biman logo."

“It will bring fresh vigour to Biman. Different airlines, like British Airways, have undertaken rebranding to begin anew. The changes in livery and logo may bring benefits, given improvements in services.”

Biman appears to have moved to revive its image dented by various factors, including flight delays.

Insiders said Biman took the initiative during the caretaker government's rule to change passengers' perception about the carrier by infusing dynamism in its services.

Ten new aircraft purchase deals with US plane-maker Boeing also persuaded the Biman management to consider massive rebranding, as a gradual induction of the new planes is expected to help the carrier ensure on-time departures.

“Hospitality will be one of the main pillars of our promise,” said Zakiul Islam of Biman.

The theme line of Biman -- Your home in the sky -- is expected to remain. “We want to ensure travellers comfort, both in air and on the ground."

Insiders said Biman selected its new livery and reviewed the logo out of about 100 designs, while a SWOT (strengths, weakness, opportunities and threats) was also done to select its future outlook.

With the help of on-board customer surveys, Biman is investigating complaints to rectify and fulfil customer needs. Efforts are also on to create a service-oriented mentality and culture among all Biman staff.

"We are sincerely trying to make it happen. You will be able to see results soon," said Civil Aviation and Tourism Secretary Shafique Alam Mehedi.

Biman posted a gross profit of Tk 34.45 crore in the July-September period of fiscal 2009-10. The rebranding initiative comes as the airline expects to strengthen its beleaguered fleet by leased aircraft -- one Boeing 777-200 ER, two Boeing 737-800 NG and one A-310 this month. These aircraft will be used to resume flights to three destinations, including New York, and open as many new routes this year.

http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/print_news.php?nid=120833

MohammedC

January 7th, 2010, 04:26 AM

Does anybody know of anybody who has used 4H on this DAC-LGW route? How's their experience, what is their opinion?

I know someone who was on first flight from LGW to DAC. But I wont ask him about his experience as his answer may be bit biased towards 4H as he is quite involved with 4H.

Ticket price is quite high also. I know the first week they were charging around £700 for LON-DXB-DAC-ZYL return whereas Biman was charging around £550 just before Eid.

I am flying next week I got return LON-DXB-DAC-ZYL for just under £500 with Biman.

Strange thing is in my ticket it says Aircraft - DC10 (which I doubt, more likely Airbus A310)

Galive

January 7th, 2010, 09:01 AM

[QUOTE=
Strange thing is in my ticket it says Aircraft - DC10 (which I doubt, more likely Airbus A310)[/QUOTE]

May be the ticket is printed in 2004 and they wanna finish it.

You can share some experience with A310 of Biman.
How's their performance.
Is there any delay or not.

OR you can share photo !!!!

akbar1

January 7th, 2010, 01:30 PM

I know someone who was on first flight from LGW to DAC. But I wont ask him about his experience as his answer may be bit biased towards 4H as he is quite involved with 4H.

Ticket price is quite high also. I know the first week they were charging around £700 for LON-DXB-DAC-ZYL return whereas Biman was charging around £550 just before Eid.

I am flying next week I got return LON-DXB-DAC-ZYL for just under £500 with Biman.

Strange thing is in my ticket it says Aircraft - DC10 (which I doubt, more likely Airbus A310)

Maybe it is a DC-10 and they will put you on a fucker-20!!! for the DAC - ZYL leg. after 7 hours waiting at DAC. Good Luck.

TIslam

January 7th, 2010, 03:11 PM

samaruf

January 7th, 2010, 04:52 PM

[SIZE="4"]
So, they don't have clearance for MAN-JFK-MAN yet they are beating their chests stating flight is imminent? Should this meeting not taken place at least one year back? So what happens if the British authorities deny this request?

We Bangladeshis are good at this. How many infrastructure projects have been promised so far and how many have actually started? If MAN fails, I guess they might try the Brussels route and that will guarantee this flight to be a even more loss making one. I bristle at thinking all the forward seats on the B777 being occupied with "amlas, chamchas and BUAS".

planemannyc

January 7th, 2010, 06:30 PM

New UK-Bangladesh Air Service Agreement - DAC-MAN-JFK gets green light

http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=120954

Bangladesh and the UK have decided to permit airlines of both countries to operate 31 flights a week, up from 10 flights previously.

Bangladeshi carriers such as Biman, United Airways and GMG will be able to operate 17 flights to London and 14 flights to other destinations in the UK.

Airlines in the UK will also enjoy the same facility, with 17 flights weekly to Dhaka and 14 to other international airports in Bangladesh, said officials at a press conference at Zia International Airport yesterday.

"It is an achievement for us,” said Civil Aviation and Tourism Secretary Shafique Alam Mehdi.

Mehdi made the disclosure after a meeting on air services agreement between Bangladesh-UK among representatives of the civil aviation authorities of both countries ended here yesterday. An agreement was signed following the meeting.

Chairman of Civil Aviation Authority of Bangladesh (CAAB) Air Commodore Sakeb Iqbal Khan Majlis and CAAB Director (Flight Safety and Regulation) Wing Commander M Kamrul Islam were present.

Mehdi said a direct air-link between Sylhet and London could be established, as Osmani International Airport in Sylhet has been included in the route schedule of air services agreement between Bangladesh and the UK.

Currently, no UK airlines run flights to Bangladesh. British Airways pulled out of Bangladesh in March 2009.

Mehdi expects the airline will resume operations in future.

He said this move gives Biman a chance to resume its Dhaka-New York flights via Manchester. "Biman will be able to operate three flights a week from Dhaka to New York through Manchester."

The revision in the air services agreement also widened scope for Bangladeshi airlines to operate more flights via different destinations in the Gulf by exercising the fifth freedom rights.

The fifth freedom right allows an airline to carry passengers from one's own country to a second country, and from that country to a third country.

UK airlines will have scope to operate flights between Bangladesh and the UK, via India.

TIslam

January 7th, 2010, 07:10 PM

BDAV

January 7th, 2010, 08:10 PM

...Mehdi said a direct air-link between Sylhet and London could be established, as Osmani International Airport in Sylhet has been included in the route schedule of air services agreement between Bangladesh and the UK.

Wow, that is great news indeed for people flying from the UK to Sylhet and vice versa.

Does anyone know which company will be first to start this direct service?

aktarahmed

January 7th, 2010, 08:20 PM

Indeed! This has been a long time in the making. Imran bhai, when does your airline take off? :)

Just need that refuelling facility at ZYL though :(

b0gtrotter

January 7th, 2010, 09:14 PM

Wow, that is great news indeed for people flying from the UK to Sylhet and vice versa.

Does anyone know which company will be first to start this direct service?

Although United say they will start direct flight to Sylhet, our friends at Dhaka, CAAB and Biman will object to this as always. They don't want Sylhet in the limelight.

Manazir

January 7th, 2010, 09:28 PM

^^
I do hope BA resumes DAC-LHR route

TIslam

January 7th, 2010, 10:13 PM

Although United say they will start direct flight to Sylhet, our friends at Dhaka, CAAB and Biman will object to this as always. They don't want Sylhet in the limelight.

I don't think such is the case. Until BA left the Bangladesh market, BG did not want to open up ZYL because BA would have come out the winner, given BG's poor service and state of disarray. I think today BG stands to gain a lot from direct ZYL-LHR service.

rinathq

January 8th, 2010, 02:48 AM

great news!
wish that would happen with Canada as well...

Clipper747

January 8th, 2010, 04:27 AM

Clipper747

January 8th, 2010, 05:16 AM

Looks like a delivery flight. all you guys in Dhaka look out it might arrive in dhaka later today or tomorrow.

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/3/5/0/1637053.jpg

Galive

January 8th, 2010, 05:41 AM

Manazir

January 8th, 2010, 02:10 PM

^^
amazing lookin :)

sulz132

January 8th, 2010, 03:42 PM

I think I can speak on behalf of all Sylheti's, when I say "about f**k**g time!!"

On a lighter note the biman livery looks refreshing :)

TIslam

January 8th, 2010, 03:42 PM

Biman can really cash inn on these deal if they are clever. they should take the opportunity and start at least one flight a week LONDON LHR-ZYL/LONDON LUTON-ZYL
BIRMINGHAM-ZYL. LHR-JFK and instead of 3 new york flights have 1 LHR-TORONTO......

I don't think Luton can handle any large jet like A310, let alone a D10 or 777. Can it?

There's no chance of BG or any Bangladeshi carrier flying to any place in Canada, anytime soon as there is no ASA between the two countries. From all I have read/heard it appears that the Canadians aren't interested in signing an ASA with Bangladesh.

akbar1

January 8th, 2010, 04:46 PM

Although United say they will start direct flight to Sylhet, our friends at Dhaka, CAAB and Biman will object to this as always. They don't want Sylhet in the limelight.

well in a way United is already doing it, I mean pax do not have to be off loaded at Dhaka whem they fly LGw-ZYL vis dhaka.

planemannyc

January 8th, 2010, 05:46 PM

When does BG's second B777-200ER come in?

I know the first one (ex SQ/9V-SRA) comes in next week, but what of the second (I believe ex SQ/9V-SRB)? Anyone know? Asif?

Best,

Wasim / Planemannyc

Manazir

January 8th, 2010, 06:09 PM

^^
lets hope by June?

golden_falcon

January 8th, 2010, 06:25 PM

I don't think Luton can handle any large jet like A310, let alone a D10 or 777. Can it?

There's no chance of BG or any Bangladeshi carrier flying to any place in Canada, anytime soon as there is no ASA between the two countries. From all I have read/heard it appears that the Canadians aren't interested in signing an ASA with Bangladesh.

Silver Jet used to operate the 767 out of Luton. Monarch & DHL still operate A300s from Luton.

golden_falcon

January 8th, 2010, 06:29 PM

I think I can speak on behalf of all Sylheti's, when I say "about f**k**g time!!"

On a lighter note the biman livery looks refreshing :)

Bravo...

Clipper747

January 8th, 2010, 06:44 PM

I don't think Luton can handle any large jet like A310, let alone a D10 or 777. Can it?.

i think London Luton can handle big jets. only last week a FedEx MD11 landed there. here is a few pictures from airliners.net

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/2/4/1/0709142.jpg

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/5/6/6/0703665.jpg

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/2/8/2/0689282.jpg

golden_falcon

January 8th, 2010, 07:13 PM

OO-DWL A300-203(F) LUTON 02.05.2009
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/0/9/9/1528990.jpg

G-OBYE B767-304ER LUTON 18.09.2009
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/1/6/5/1585561.jpg

LUTON can handle wide-bodies. Although I believe noise abatement restrictions apply.

rinathq

January 8th, 2010, 07:52 PM

Biman looks nice!!!!

TIslam

January 9th, 2010, 12:58 AM

i think London Luton can handle big jets. only last week a FedEx MD11 landed there. here is a few pictures from airliners.net

Okay, I stand correct but why the fascination with LTN? Is it because it is in the vicinity? With the exception of El Al, no other medium/large international airline serves LTN. I believe STN would make more sense.

As for BG, I don't see it serving any other airport other than LHR, in (near) London. Unless of course, it gets kicked out for chronic delays. Then too, I think BG would serve LGW and not LTN or STN.

golden_falcon

January 9th, 2010, 01:33 AM

Okay, I stand correct but why the fascination with LTN? Is it because it is in the vicinity? With the exception of El Al, no other medium/large international airline serves LTN. I believe STN would make more sense.

1) For many, it is easier to access, in comparison to LHR, LGW & STN.
2) From a passengers point of view it is a rather pleasant airport to use, mainly due to the lack of international flights & the problems associated with them.

TIslam

January 9th, 2010, 04:48 AM

1) For many, it is easier to access, in comparison to LHR, LGW & STN.
2) From a passengers point of view it is a rather pleasant airport to use, mainly due to the lack of international flights & the problems associated with them.

Very well could be the case but, an airline and its passengers' expectation hardly intersect. EWR is a much user friendly airport compared to JFK, yet most international carriers prefer to operate to (from) JFK.

golden_falcon

January 9th, 2010, 04:52 AM

Very well could be the case but, an airline and its passengers' expectation hardly intersect.

I second that..

b0gtrotter

January 9th, 2010, 12:37 PM

It is simply mind blowing.

Excellent. couple of more things they need to improve on;

1. timekeeping (this will automatically be improved upon due to the reliability of the modern aircrafts, and less 'technical faults' associated with them.

2. attitude and manners of the Biman's air hostess (this is where customer services come in)

3. keeping the aircrafts clean inside as well as outside (can't forget the old DC-10 remember how they looked) also aircrew should keep their uniform clean and tidy. I've seen biman aircrew with stain marks on their already shabby uniform on a few occasions, this isn't just a 'one off' incident.

4. more smile and less make up for air hostess (now i'm not a make up artist but i think they should take beauty tips from BA or Virgin)

5. inflight entertainment (passengers pick up little details like the above when they're flying as there's no inflight entertainment to keep em busy!)

If biman won't do anything about the aforementioned then 'excrement' as my friend would say!!!:lol:

Manazir

January 9th, 2010, 06:00 PM

^^
second that :)

nacief_aviator

January 9th, 2010, 07:37 PM

Looks like a delivery flight. all you guys in Dhaka look out it might arrive in dhaka later today or tomorrow.

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/3/5/0/1637053.jpg

Hello .....I have been following this thread for quite some time....but registered just now.....so totally new.....

I recently got my Commercial Pilot's License and Instrument Rating from CAAB......and am one of the hopeful applicants for Biman's Cadet Pilot program.....

anyway....wasnt this aircraft supposed to come into Dhaka on 7th....any new updates....???anyone....??

fallstuf

January 9th, 2010, 07:53 PM

A rather long article with Comments:

From
http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=120833

A new-look Biman in sight
Balaka will remain in modified shape; artist opposes logo tampering

http://www.thedailystar.net/photo/2010/01/07/2010-01-07__b04.jpg
A leased aircraft, now being painted with a new logo, is expected to join the Biman fleet. The carrier has taken steps to rebrand itself. Photo: Palegreaovivo

Biman Bangladesh Airlines is expected to rebrand itself, bringing changes to its livery and logo.

In sync with promises to improve services both in air and on the ground, Biman plans to come up with a new look in the third week of January.

Four leased aircraft, now being painted with the new logo, will join the Biman fleet this month.

"We want to infuse new life into Biman so it can be a truly commercially viable airline,” Biman's Managing Director and Chief Executive Muhammad Zakiul Islam told The Daily Star. “We want to bring a feeling of change."

He said Biman wants to launch the 38-year-old state-owned carrier with new livery and promises.

Balaka, the logo of Biman, will be there but in a modified shape. “The logo will be more dynamic, lively and forward-looking," the Biman MD said.

But artists differed on the move to modify the logo designed by the late painter Quamrul Hassan.

"No-one should have the right to tamper with other's works. Why is it necessary to change the logo when it has become popular, both at home and abroad?” said Prof Hashem Khan, a noted painter.

But Kazi Wahidul Alam, editor of aviation and tourism fortnightly The Bangladesh Monitor, said any logo has an impact. “There should be an element of motion in the Biman logo."

“It will bring fresh vigour to Biman. Different airlines, like British Airways, have undertaken rebranding to begin anew. The changes in livery and logo may bring benefits, given improvements in services.”

Biman appears to have moved to revive its image dented by various factors, including flight delays.

Insiders said Biman took the initiative during the caretaker government's rule to change passengers' perception about the carrier by infusing dynamism in its services.

Ten new aircraft purchase deals with US plane-maker Boeing also persuaded the Biman management to consider massive rebranding, as a gradual induction of the new planes is expected to help the carrier ensure on-time departures.

“Hospitality will be one of the main pillars of our promise,” said Zakiul Islam of Biman.

The theme line of Biman -- Your home in the sky -- is expected to remain. “We want to ensure travellers comfort, both in air and on the ground."

Insiders said Biman selected its new livery and reviewed the logo out of about 100 designs, while a SWOT (strengths, weakness, opportunities and threats) was also done to select its future outlook.

With the help of on-board customer surveys, Biman is investigating complaints to rectify and fulfil customer needs. Efforts are also on to create a service-oriented mentality and culture among all Biman staff.

"We are sincerely trying to make it happen. You will be able to see results soon," said Civil Aviation and Tourism Secretary Shafique Alam Mehedi.

Biman posted a gross profit of Tk 34.45 crore in the July-September period of fiscal 2009-10. The rebranding initiative comes as the airline expects to strengthen its beleaguered fleet by leased aircraft -- one Boeing 777-200 ER, two Boeing 737-800 NG and one A-310 this month. These aircraft will be used to resume flights to three destinations, including New York, and open as many new routes this year.

Comments

* Haroon
Thursday, January 7, 2010 03:03 AM GMT+06:00 (3 days ago)

This is a good effort undoubtedly. We must change our attitude in order to have Biman a profitable airline by removing its old styled logo that was adopted in 1972. I believe along with its logo, all primitive attitude of Biman staff should also be changed.

Keep up good work ethics, Biaman!

Haroon / Canada

* Sayeed Haque
Thursday, January 7, 2010 05:03 AM GMT+06:00 (3 days ago)

Re-branding is exactly what Biman needs. The new colours and the logo looks very attractive. I intend to fly Biman (again) in near future. Best of luck to Biman.
* dewan
Thursday, January 7, 2010 07:06 AM GMT+06:00 (3 days ago)

Wonderful Logo, need good logo for good image
* Ferdous Jalil
Thursday, January 7, 2010 11:25 AM GMT+06:00 (3 days ago)

Not bad! But there should be touch of green to reflect the colours of our flag.
* Ferdous Jalil
Thursday, January 7, 2010 11:28 AM GMT+06:00 (3 days ago)

The font is ok...it's a little too compact...the ellipse-like shape in the tail should be the same red (the one in our flag).

* Sanjan Haque
Thursday, January 7, 2010 11:33 AM GMT+06:00 (3 days ago)

New logo, new planes, new management....profitable future! If Biman can ensure flight schedule and a decent level of customer service then many Bangladeshi's and ex-pat Bengali's will fly. There are Middle Eastern, E Asian and Indian companies serving routes which should be traditionally served by Biman e.g. Delhi, Kolkata, Mumbai, London, NYC, Bangkok, Singaore, Dubai, and Abu Dhabi. Good luck to the management.
* Arko
Thursday, January 7, 2010 01:13 PM GMT+06:00 (3 days ago)

Just loving it :) awesome !
* saad
Thursday, January 7, 2010 01:22 PM GMT+06:00 (2 days ago)

some times changing the logo may bring spirit to the people working in that organization

fallstuf

January 9th, 2010, 08:05 PM

From

http://www.thefinancialexpress-bd.com/more.php?news_id=88663

Biman to receive first fuel-efficient Boeing 777-200ER

Mashiur Rahaman

State-owned Biman Bangladesh Airlines is likely to receive its first fuel-efficient Boeing 777-200ER aircraft on January 15 to upgrade its fleet.

The national flag carrier signed an agreement to procure two wide-body Boeing-777-200ER category aircraft from a Portuguese leasing company mainly to resume its operation to Dhaka-New York routes.

"Euro Atlantic Airways, the leasing company, has assured us to supply the first leased aircraft," Biman's Managing Director and Chief Executive Officer Air Commodore (Retd) Muhammed Zakiul Islam told the FE.

Biman intends to operate flights on Dhaka-London-Dhaka and Dhaka-Singapore-Dhaka routes with the newly acquired passenger carrier, instead of starting flights to America.

"Passenger demands in these two routes are very high at the moment," Mr. Islam said adding that some formalities, mandatory to commence NY flights are yet to be completed.

Biman's board signed a letter of intent with a Lisbon-based Euro Atlantic Airways for leasing 323-seater two Boeing 777-200ER aircraft as it faced serious aircraft shortage to operate its scheduled 18 international destinations.

Biman's fleet has been reduced to five from as 13 early this year, due to expiry of lease period of two aircraft and frequent technical groundings of age-old planes.

The board had also decided to hire another two Boeing 777 planes before the end of the year, as the government-owned carrier went on the overdrive to phase out its outdated DC-10 aircraft and ease an acute crisis of air-worthy fleet.

Representative of the Euro Atlantic has confirmed the information and said the second leased aircraft would be supplied on due time as per agreement.

Over 300,000 Bangladeshis live in the USA have been demanding resumption of the air operation for long. The national flag carrier cancelled its flights in this particular route at the end of 2006 amid operating loss to the tune of Tk 7.5 million (Tk 75 lakh) per flight. Biman used to operate two weekly flights to New York by DC 10-30 aircraft.

Restoration of this particular air-operation was a part of the election manifesto of the ruling Awami League government.

Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina during her visit assured non-resident Bangladeshis living in NY early 2009 of meeting their demand of Dhaka-NY operation by the national flag carrier prior to December 2009.

tamim75

January 9th, 2010, 08:32 PM

here's a more complete picture of biman's new look...the 2 new aircraft types that will have the new livery...

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk154/tamim75/BimanNew777737.jpg

:cheers:

AeroGeeK

January 9th, 2010, 10:14 PM

Doesn't the B738 nose landing gear look a bit short on nitrogen in the delivery flight pic?

Manazir

January 10th, 2010, 06:01 AM

^^
LOL the B737s nosegear is like that always (ive seen)

BA7E7

January 10th, 2010, 02:18 PM

Doesn't the B738 nose landing gear look a bit short on nitrogen in the delivery flight pic?

Delivery flight? guy's what happened to the flight! usually bangladeshi tv media reports on new aircraft being delivered at zia, but there is nothing on the media (tv, papers) does anyone have any information. :)

Galive

January 10th, 2010, 03:41 PM

Delivery flight? guy's what happened to the flight! usually bangladeshi tv media reports on new aircraft being delivered at zia, but there is nothing on the media (tv, papers) does anyone have any information. :)

I also don't see any green white brid on Zia. No one can tell any thing. Actually when it will deliver to Biman ?

b747 cAN U SAY ANYTHING ?

Clipper747

January 10th, 2010, 04:04 PM

Were is Asif. any one know?

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BA7E7

January 10th, 2010, 04:22 PM

Were is Asif. any one know?

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He is in winter hibernation brov. :storm:

Manazir

January 10th, 2010, 06:04 PM

^^
ur so damn right :D

Clipper747

January 10th, 2010, 09:46 PM

The first 777-200ER will be delivered by 10th January, 2010, as stipulated in the agreement thereof.

Ding Dong its 10th of January. i dont see no 777 in DAC. any input asif bhai

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BA7E7

January 10th, 2010, 10:43 PM

Ding Dong its 10th of January. i dont see no 777 in DAC. any input asif bhai

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Oh dear! If nothing else, it's biman, and running five days late. :lol:

Clipper747

January 10th, 2010, 11:51 PM

Oh dear! If nothing else, it's biman, and running five days late. :lol:

HaHa:lol:

TIslam

January 11th, 2010, 04:41 AM

^^
Lost its way in dense fog ....:colgate:

Galive

January 11th, 2010, 09:50 AM

^^
Lost its way in dense fog ....:colgate:

777 will come at 15 December(it is mistake it will be 15 January)- one of Captain of Biman tells me.

But news about 737 that it will come in 10January I was not sure. But some one tell that it will reach Dhaka at 10th January.

But In Zia there was no 737-800 of Biman. Regularly F-28 used at regoinal route.

Another thing is clear that no TV channel will give report on this as because in Bangladesh few people interested about a good things of Biman. In my office no one believe me as BIman done very bad commitment in past.

Manazir

January 11th, 2010, 05:28 PM

^^
ahhh? 15 DECEMBER or u meant to write January? :P

planemannyc

January 11th, 2010, 05:34 PM

Biman's second B737-800 will also be an ex-GOL a/c.

2nd Biman Bangladesh B737-800 - S2-AFM (PR-GIA)

A 737-83N S/N 2865 S2-AFM (Ex-Gol PR-GIA)

Yesterday late afternoon, the 737-83N S / N 2865 S2-AFM (Ex-Gol PR-GIA) was towed to Hangar 02 to the front of Hangar 01 TAP-ME. Probably in the next few days, this aircraft will hold the first test flight in the colors of the new operator.

http://palegreaovivo.blogspot.com/2010/01/2-biman-bangladesh-s2-afm-pr-gia.html

Photos of this aircraft can be found at: http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?regsearch=PR-GIA

tamim75

January 11th, 2010, 08:42 PM

777 will come at 15 December- one of Captain of Biman tells me.

your information is correct (15th jan). and here's the beauty for everyone to behold. painting completed at singapore...

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk154/tamim75/euroatlantic777.jpg

BA7E7

January 11th, 2010, 09:06 PM

^^
Is this real? or fake.. :)

banuthev

January 11th, 2010, 09:42 PM

your information is correct (15th jan). and here's the beauty for everyone to behold. painting completed at singapore...

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk154/tamim75/euroatlantic777.jpg

Very nice design. Biman-Logo couldnt fit in the Aircraft tail.

MohammedC

January 11th, 2010, 11:30 PM

So it arrives 15th of January. Does anyone have any idea when will start to fly for Biman?

Silv3r

January 12th, 2010, 12:35 AM

^^
Is this real? or fake.. :)

for real this time

golden_falcon

January 12th, 2010, 12:51 AM

TIslam

January 12th, 2010, 01:10 AM

Wow... Now it seems real to me, BG's first ever T7.
Thank you for sharing this pic tamim75.

I don't mean to be pessimistic but I was wondering. Traditionally BG only acquire AC that are either obsolete or about to become obsolete, so is it safe assume that the 737 & 777 production lines are coming to end? :nuts:

That's an unfair characterization of Biman. Back in the day when BG acquired the Diesels, interestingly also from SQ (some not all), they were practically new and state of the art equipment.

The production lines of 737 and 777 are far from being over.

sulz132

January 12th, 2010, 02:16 AM

Cheers for the T7 pic, Tamim.

As much as I like to hate biman, I can't help feeling proud.........

rinathq

January 12th, 2010, 03:24 AM

Wonderful! one step closer !!!

tanzirian

January 12th, 2010, 03:28 AM

The new livery has grown on me...though I was ambivalent at first.

And though I remain nostalgic for the old logo...I think the new look is a good and appropriate freshening.

tislam84

January 12th, 2010, 03:48 AM

It looks good! I can finally see the balaka on the tail!

golden_falcon

January 12th, 2010, 06:22 AM

That's an unfair characterization of Biman. Back in the day when BG acquired the Diesels, interestingly also from SQ (some not all), they were practically new and state of the art equipment.

The production lines of 737 and 777 are far from being over.

AC models operated by BG:

Douglas DC3 (produced 1935 - 1949)
Acquired: Jan 1972
Operated: Jan - Feb 1972

Douglas Dakota (produced 1941 - 1945)
Acquired: Jan 1972
Operated: Unknown period of time during 1972

Douglas DC6 (produced 1946 - 1958)
Acquired: Feb/Mar 1972
Operated: Unknown period of time during 1972

Fokker F27 (produced 1955 - 1987)
Acquired: 1972 - 1973
Operated; 1972 - 1988

Boeing 707 (produced 1958 - 1979)
Acquired: 1972 - 1981
Operated: 1972 - 1989

Fokker F28 (produced 1967 - 1987)
Acquired: 1981 - 2004
Operated: 1981 to date

Douglas DC8 (produced 1958 -1972)
Acquired: 1980
Operated 1980 - 1981

McDonnell Douglas DC10 (produced 1968 - 1988)
Acquired: 1983 - 2000
Operated: 1983 to date

BAe ATP (produced 1988 - 1996)
Acquired: 1990
Operated: 1990 - 2004

Airbus A310 (produced 1983 -2007)
Acquired: 1996 - ongoing
Operated: 1996 to date

Boeing 737 classic (produced 1981 -1999)
Acquired: 2003
Operated: 2003 - 2004

Boeing 747 classic (produced 1969 - 1990)
Acquired: 2008 - 2009
Operated: 2008 - 2009

Bro take a look at this list and tell me if you still think I'm being unfair!
The only exception was the F27, which BG disposed off a year after production ceased. As for the DC10's, in 1983 they had been in production for 14 years & production ceased 5 years later.

Clipper747

January 12th, 2010, 09:08 AM

It doesn't Look all that for some reason. looked better on the 737-800. it looks too blunt the engines are too bare its too white.

I still love this livery. some might say it looks to Thai but the fact is this livery was designed 5 years before Thai changed its livery. back then bimans head man had said it is too costly im sure if the new MD had seen this livery he would have liked it. it kept the biman image and looked good

Well i think we should have a vote. will all members please give your thoughts
Many Thanks

http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairlinerphotos/photos/big/00000158.jpg

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iamkarib

January 12th, 2010, 10:14 AM

thanx Tamim75 for sharing this pic :)

BA7E7

January 12th, 2010, 01:44 PM

for real this time

Thank you. :) i thought it was photoshop job, because, the swan on the tail don't look same as biman's b738, there is a big gap between bird's body and wing. i think the brazilians have done a better job with the logo on boeing 737-800 which has smaller tail.. :)

AeroGeeK

January 12th, 2010, 02:37 PM

As I said earlier, too much green. It would've been a good livery for that hoax called air sylhet. Anyways, I'm happy because the black nose is gone. I detest black noses and none other than BG keeps those nowadays.

MohammedC

January 12th, 2010, 03:23 PM

I am flying from LHR on 16th of January. Just wondering what are the chances on that day I will be on first T7 flight from LHR to DAC under Biman's colour.

TIslam

January 12th, 2010, 03:38 PM

I am flying from LHR on 16th of January. Just wondering what are the chances on that day I have to be on first T7 flight from LHR to DAC under Biman's colour.

That would be wishful thinking. :)

MohammedC

January 12th, 2010, 03:45 PM

That would be wishful thinking. :)

Most definitely. Though I have flown with British Airways 777 it would be a proud moment if I am on the first flight to DAC with Biman's 777.

Manazir

January 12th, 2010, 06:42 PM

^^
daiimm, loving the new B777 of BG

b0gtrotter

January 12th, 2010, 10:59 PM

TIslam

January 13th, 2010, 03:28 AM

I am flying from LHR on 16th of January. Just wondering what are the chances on that day I will be on first T7 flight from LHR to DAC under Biman's colour.

Well, well, whaddya know! You may be in luck. Check this out:
http://www.kinetic-avionics.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?p=89701&sid=ca22be1f492a2a88500f694c584ea958

tislam84

January 13th, 2010, 05:39 AM

^^ If so, could you please post some pictures of Biman with the new livery, MohammedC? Please!

golden_falcon

January 13th, 2010, 05:44 AM

euroAtlantic/Biman 777-200ER CS-TFM landing in Lisbon on 12.01.2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NjXr8M4CYE

planemannyc

January 13th, 2010, 07:37 AM

Looks like BG's new 777 made it to Lisbon (EA's home base, I take it)

http://jetphotos.net/img/2/3/3/7/21855_1263339733.jpg

http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6751931&nseq=0

manbil777

January 13th, 2010, 07:45 AM

Looks like BG's new 777 made it to Lisbon (EA's home base, I take it)....

Looking nice guys....mighty nice :)

mash_bfa

January 13th, 2010, 08:11 AM

Looks like BG's new 777 made it to Lisbon (EA's home base, I take it)

Initially didnt like this livery, but the more i see it, the more i happen to fall for it! looking great.. will try n post some pics of this plane when it first lands in Zia. thats if someone can give me an exact date and time of arrival.

cheers

Clipper747

January 13th, 2010, 09:25 AM

Initially didnt like this livery, but the more i see it, the more i happen to fall for it! looking great.. will try n post some pics of this plane when it first lands in Zia. thats if someone can give me an exact date and time of arrival.

cheers

It should be some time on the 15th. hope to see some good pics from you bro

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Clipper747

January 13th, 2010, 11:43 AM

This looks good

http://images3.jetphotos.net/img/2/3/0/5/56320_1262904503.jpg

nacief_aviator

January 13th, 2010, 12:35 PM

in that case......see u on the 15th at the club mahruf.....

MohammedC

January 13th, 2010, 01:44 PM

Well, well, whaddya know! You may be in luck. Check this out:
http://www.kinetic-avionics.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?p=89701&sid=ca22be1f492a2a88500f694c584ea958

Noted on Airliners.net

CS-TFM (ex 9V-SVA) is due to be ferried SIN-LIS today (12th) and is now wearing full new livery. It is then planned to operate flights to LHR on the following dates:

16th Jan BG017
19th Jan BG001
21st Jan BG007

My flight number BG018.....

I will take some pictures.

Was it fluke or what. 3 days to go cant wait.

AeroGeeK

January 13th, 2010, 05:43 PM

TIslam

January 13th, 2010, 06:32 PM

One thing I don't understand is that why is it being ferried all the way to LIS & why will it operate its first flight for BG from LHR to DAC? It would've been more easier and time-efficient to ferry it from SIN to DAC and then operate first flight from DAC to LHR.

I have the same question. Perhaps some legal issue? May be Imran has the answer.

BA7E7

January 13th, 2010, 06:44 PM

I have the same question. Perhaps some legal issue? May be Imran has the answer.

But where is Mr Imran Asif...:horse:

TIslam

January 13th, 2010, 06:57 PM

But where is Mr Imran Asif...:horse:

On board CS-TFM. ;)

BA7E7

January 13th, 2010, 07:26 PM

On board CS-TFM. ;)

1st honorary guest of biman, right. :)

TIslam

January 13th, 2010, 07:41 PM

A successful dac/zyl-lhr-dac/zyl run by BG will be the death knell for 4H. Unless they slash their fare into half.

Moin

January 13th, 2010, 07:58 PM

One thing I don't understand is that why is it being ferried all the way to LIS & why will it operate its first flight for BG from LHR to DAC? It would've been more easier and time-efficient to ferry it from SIN to DAC and then operate first flight from DAC to LHR.

The aircraft belong to EuroAtlantic, based on Lisbon, Portugal; leased to BG.
As far as I guess from my little knowledge, some paper work are needed by Civil aviation authority of Portugal before delivering to BG.

Manazir

January 13th, 2010, 09:23 PM

But where is Mr Imran Asif...:horse:

maybe he is inside the plane :D

planemannyc

January 14th, 2010, 08:13 AM

Second Boeing 737-800 for Biman being readied.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_onCJHil7fG0/S05-rr9NjuI/AAAAAAAAAgc/fmBMz4FSWmQ/s1600/_DSC6882_PR-GIAb%2BPA.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_onCJHil7fG0/S05-rie8U5I/AAAAAAAAAgU/7bu0UFAlnwo/s1600/_DSC6891_PR-GIAb%2BPA.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_onCJHil7fG0/S05-rKxwNnI/AAAAAAAAAgM/xO5cmFLeRls/s1600-h/_DSC6899_PR-GIAb+PA.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_onCJHil7fG0/S05-q2DtvoI/AAAAAAAAAgE/T6PPcJ5jnaU/s1600-h/PR-GIA+(S2-AFM)+13.01.2010+Krug.jpg

PR-GIA (S2-AFM) in air
Took off at 16:05 to experience the flight of Boeing 737-800WL, registration PR-GIA, the Biman Bangladesh, with call sign GOL9288. With an anticipated two-hour flight, the flight plan provided for the removal of the VOR radial 270 palegre (airway UA432) to 230nm GAMOTO position at the border of Brazil and Uruguay. T his plane will be the second ex-GOL aircraft to be delivered to the Asian company in the future flying as S2-AFM. Landed near 18.30

Photos and report courtesy Palegre a o vivo blog from Porto Alegre, Brazil
http://palegreaovivo.blogspot.com/

planemannyc

January 14th, 2010, 08:16 AM

Second Boeing 737-800 for Biman being readied.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_onCJHil7fG0/S05-rr9NjuI/AAAAAAAAAgc/fmBMz4FSWmQ/s1600/_DSC6882_PR-GIAb%2BPA.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_onCJHil7fG0/S05-rie8U5I/AAAAAAAAAgU/7bu0UFAlnwo/s1600/_DSC6891_PR-GIAb%2BPA.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_onCJHil7fG0/S05-rKxwNnI/AAAAAAAAAgM/xO5cmFLeRls/s1600/_DSC6899_PR-GIAb%2BPA.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_onCJHil7fG0/S05-q2DtvoI/AAAAAAAAAgE/T6PPcJ5jnaU/s1600/PR-GIA%2B(S2-AFM)%2B13.01.2010%2BKrug.jpg

PR-GIA (S2-AFM) in air
Took off at 16:05 to experience the flight of Boeing 737-800WL, registration PR-GIA, the Biman Bangladesh, with call sign GOL9288. With an anticipated two-hour flight, the flight plan provided for the removal of the VOR radial 270 palegre (airway UA432) to 230nm GAMOTO position at the border of Brazil and Uruguay. T his plane will be the second ex-GOL aircraft to be delivered to the Asian company in the future flying as S2-AFM. Landed near 18.30

Photos and report courtesy Palegre a o vivo blog from Porto Alegre, Brazil
http://palegreaovivo.blogspot.com/

BA7E7

January 14th, 2010, 10:09 AM

Second Boeing 737-800 for Biman being readied.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_onCJHil7fG0/S05-rr9NjuI/AAAAAAAAAgc/fmBMz4FSWmQ/s1600/_DSC6882_PR-GIAb%2BPA.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_onCJHil7fG0/S05-rie8U5I/AAAAAAAAAgU/7bu0UFAlnwo/s1600/_DSC6891_PR-GIAb%2BPA.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_onCJHil7fG0/S05-rKxwNnI/AAAAAAAAAgM/xO5cmFLeRls/s1600/_DSC6899_PR-GIAb%2BPA.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_onCJHil7fG0/S05-q2DtvoI/AAAAAAAAAgE/T6PPcJ5jnaU/s1600/PR-GIA%2B(S2-AFM)%2B13.01.2010%2BKrug.jpg

PR-GIA (S2-AFM) in air
Took off at 16:05 to experience the flight of Boeing 737-800WL, registration PR-GIA, the Biman Bangladesh, with call sign GOL9288. With an anticipated two-hour flight, the flight plan provided for the removal of the VOR radial 270 palegre (airway UA432) to 230nm GAMOTO position at the border of Brazil and Uruguay. T his plane will be the second ex-GOL aircraft to be delivered to the Asian company in the future flying as S2-AFM. Landed near 18.30

Photos and report courtesy Palegre a o vivo blog from Porto Alegre, Brazil
http://palegreaovivo.blogspot.com/

These baby boeings looking great in new biman livery, thank you for posting them Sir. :)

Manazir

January 14th, 2010, 10:29 AM

^^
nice shots at brazil, one might think BG flies to Brazil now :D

shatilislam

January 14th, 2010, 10:52 AM

over last few days, I have been emotionally shaken watching the new planes of Biman. This is indeed a new era coming. Based on the new entries, I am trying to predict the fleet of Biman in 2012, 2016 and 2020:

2012:

2* B777-300ER (the first two deliveries from Boeing)
2* B777-200ER ( the EA birds in long term lease)
2*B777-200 (not sure these two would come or not)
3*A310 (including 1 in lease from ILFC)
2* b737-800 NG (the leased Brizilian birds)

By that time possibly the DC-10s and F-28s would be phased out. May be there would be couple of B747s for short term lease for Hajj. Still Biman may need couple of 30-50 seaters for domestic operations.

2016:

4* B777-300ER (from boeing)
3*A310 (not sure they would stay that long)
2* b737-800 NG (from being)

plus may be some of the leased birds.

2020:

4* B777-300ER (from boeing)
4*B787(from boeing)
2* b737-800 NG (from being)

and by that time biman may excercise some more purchase rights and may be some more new new orders may be placed.

Clipper747

January 14th, 2010, 12:41 PM

Does any one know if any of these Aircraft have been delivered to DAC yet. guys in bangladesh keep a lookout.

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Galive

January 14th, 2010, 01:52 PM

Manazir

January 14th, 2010, 02:29 PM

^^
If DC-10 remains at any way, it may be cargo plane otherwise they are bound to be scrapped by then!

Galive

January 14th, 2010, 04:06 PM

^^
If DC-10 remains at any way, it may be cargo plane otherwise they are bound to be scrapped by then!

Converting DC-10 into cargo is very expensive I thing it would be better in a museum.

AVIATION Museum.
:nuts:
DC-10 completely will leave Biman's home after 2013.

shatilislam

January 14th, 2010, 05:40 PM

You are right but DC-10 will remain. One of DC-10 is in very good condition.

I would love to see the DC-10s remain in operation beyond 2013, no matter as cargo or passenger jet. But reality is that they may become costlier to operate day by day.

Are you referring to S2-ACR as in very good condition? This is the newest bird, only 20 years old....

TIslam

January 14th, 2010, 06:25 PM

Converting DC-10 into cargo is very expensive I thing it would be better in a museum.

AVIATION Museum.
:nuts:
DC-10 completely will leave Biman's home after 2013.

You never know, somebody may want it, if the aircraft is mint condition and has been well maintained. Worst case scenario is that it would be sold for scrap.

Moin

January 14th, 2010, 07:12 PM

Two new Boeing aircraft will join Biman fleet next year, as most of the planes of the national carrier are more than 15 years old and reaching the end of their economic life.

A meeting of the cabinet committee on economic affairs yesterday approved a proposal for giving Biman Bangladesh Airlines the sovereign guarantee to take loans from local banks for purchasing the airliners.

Finance Minister AMA Muhith chaired the meeting.

In line with an agreement with US-based Boeing Company, an aircraft will join Biman fleet in November 2011, while another plane will be added in December the same year, Civil Aviation and Tourism Secretary Shafique Alam Mehedi told The Daily Star yesterday.

A syndicate of nine local banks will give Biman a loan of $114.75 million for purchasing the two aircraft from Boeing.

This is for the first time after the country's independence that local banks are giving such a big amount of loan to a government entity in foreign currency.

The national flag carrier is taking the loan from the local banks' syndicate led by Eastern Bank Ltd at a low interest rate of 4.57 percent.

The civil aviation and tourism ministry had earlier sought approval of the cabinet committee on economic affairs for waiving the conditions of Public Procurement Act for the pre-delivery payment to Boeing.

The ministry also sought waiver of the suppliers' credit rules for taking commercial loans in foreign currency. Biman signed the agreement with Boeing in 2008 to purchase 10 aircraft for $1.31 billion to strengthen its fleet.

In line with the agreement, Biman has already paid Boeing $11.96 million for buying the planes. Boeing is supposed to supply the two aircraft in 2011 for $424 million.

The syndicate of the local banks also includes BRAC Bank, National Bank, IFIC Bank, The City Bank, AB Bank, Prime Bank, Premier Bank and Citibank NA.

Biman has eight aircraft in its fleet -- four DC-10s, two Airbus and two F-28s. Of those, two have been taken on lease.

http://www.thedailystar.net/story.php?nid=121921

BA7E7

January 14th, 2010, 07:58 PM

Biman earns Tk 3.7m as extra baggage charge

Mashiur Rahaman

State-run Biman Bangladesh Airlines earned 0.2 million (2.0 lakh) Saudi riyals equivalent to Tk 3.7 million as extra baggage charge during the post-Hajj operation ended on January 01, 2010.

The generated revenue from this extra baggage charge this Hajj season was more than double against the amount earned from the earlier year's Hajj operation, a well-placed Biman official told the FE. At the end of Hajj operation last season, the national flag carrier earned revenue worth 87,000 riyals equivalent to Tk 1,609,500 only.

Biman carried 32,184 pilgrims this season, operating 86 Hajj flights including 54dedicated and 32 scheduled flights to Jeddah. A total of 58,638 Bangladeshi nationals performed the greatest rituals. BesidesBiman, Saudi Arabian Airlines ferried 20,000 pilgrims in their dedicated Hajj flights.

Each year, extra baggage charge from homebound Bangladeshi pilgrims make complaints of massive mismanagement and allege corruption against deployed Hajj officials.

"Responding to a series of complaints from various platforms, Biman conducted an investigation against Hajj officials and unveiled presence of corrupt elements in the process," :bash: an official related to Biman's finance department told the FE.

"We discovered that officials were involved in charging passengers for extra baggage weights, without issuing money receipts," :bash: the official said requesting anonymity.

He said such irregularity was also exposed by flight operating pilots who complained of losing extra fuel for more overweight than mentioned in the flight manual on their way to Dhaka from Jeddah. :bash:

This season, a top Biman official was deployed at Jeddah Hajj station for looking after the post-Hajj operation, aiming to curb the extra baggage related irregularities. Within only 15 days of operation, Biman's team under his command managed to generate over 0.1 million Saudi riyals, more than the total earned revenue of the earlier year's month-longoperation, the Biman official said.

However, he was later ordered to return to the base after only 15 days, the official added.

As per the rules set by Biman, each pilgrim passenger is allowed to carry 30 kilograms of baggage without any extra charge. Beyond the allowed 30kg, the official charge for each additional kilogram is 45 riyals.

http://www.thefinancialexpress-bd.com/more.php?page=detail_news&news_id=89605

nacief_aviator

January 14th, 2010, 08:20 PM

banuthev

January 15th, 2010, 10:48 AM

Here is the additional picture of Bangladesh Biman B777-212ER (CS-TFM) in new colours. In Lisboa (Portugal). Picture from Luis Vieira @ Planepictures.net.

http://i49.tinypic.com/2din3w9.jpg

banuthev

January 15th, 2010, 10:58 AM

BG website should be redesigned according to the new aircraft design.

AeroGeeK

January 15th, 2010, 12:16 PM

BG website should be redesigned according to the new aircraft design.

Design is the least of worries. The whole website needs to be rebuilt from scratch. It needs e-ticketing system, online schedule, flight tracker system and many more options which are now standard and common in other airlines' websites.

MohammedC

January 15th, 2010, 02:07 PM

any news on whether the the 777 has arrived in Dhaka

aktarahmed

January 15th, 2010, 02:45 PM

Guarantee' for bank loan: Cabinet body rejects Biman’s plea (http://nation.ittefaq.com/issues/2010/01/15/news0183.htm)

The Cabinet Committee on Economic Affairs Thursday rejected a plea of Biman Bangladesh Airlines to have 'state-sovereign guarantee' for taking loans from local and international banks to procure aircraft from US-based Boeing. Biman, the national flag carrier, signed a contract with Boeing in 2008 during the caretaker government's rule to procure 10 aircraft at $1.31 billion to strengthen its fleet. The deal was finalised through negotiations on the basis of an unsolicited offer.

Under the first phase of the agreement, according to official sources, Biman needs a total of $424 million to pay Boeing to get the supply of two aircraft by 2011.Biman also finalised a deal for taking a loan of $114.75 million from a syndicate of nine banks, led by Eastern Bank Ltd, at a rate of 4.57 percent for procuring the two aircraft while the US-based Ex-Im Bank was supposed to finance the rest of the amount. But the local and international banks put a condition on Biman to manage a 'state-sovereign guarantee' to back its borrowing, which means the state will pay the lenders if Biman becomes defaulter. Civil Aviation and Tourism Ministry placed the proposal to the Cabinet Economic Affairs body and sought an approval for waiving the conditions of Public Procurement Law, (PPA) 2008 in its purchase based on unsolicited offer.

But the Cabinet body found the Biman's proposal non-compliant with the PPA 2008, as Biman has already been turned into a public limited company (PLC) with an independent decision making board. The PPA does not allow any sovereign guarantee to a PLC and any unsolicited deal. "So, the Cabinet refrained from approving the Biman's offer," said a senior official of the Cabinet Division following its meeting presided over by Finance Minister AMA Muhith. He said the Cabinet body, however, agreed in principle that the Finance Ministry would take necessary measures in consultation with the central bank to back Biman so that it does not face any problem in going ahead with its deal to procure the aircraft from Boeing. Sources said Biman, as per the agreement, has already paid Boeing $11.96 million for procuring the planes. Boeing is supposed to supply the two aircraft in 2011.

Biman will pay Boeing $114.75 million immediately as a pre-delivery payment. This is the first time after the country's independence that local banks' syndicate is giving such a big loan to a government agency in foreign currency.

The syndicate of the local banks also includes Brac Bank, National Bank, IFIC Bank, The City Bank, AB Bank, Prime Bank, Premier Bank and Citi Bank NA.

BA7E7

January 15th, 2010, 02:46 PM

any news on whether the the 777 has arrived in Dhaka

I'v been watching all bangla tv channels so far nothing brov, i wonder where Mr Imran Asif is, i thought he'll give us information before the delivery! anyhow we'll wait, and wait, and? ... :lol:

Manazir

January 15th, 2010, 03:45 PM

^^
he is prolly inside the plane :D

BA7E7

January 15th, 2010, 04:18 PM

^^
he is prolly inside the plane :D

If my memory serves me correctly, Imran Asif use his mobile phone to reply lot of the post, maybe the battery run out? :lol: On a serious note he could be really too busy to post any update on biman 772ER delivery... :)

samaruf

January 15th, 2010, 04:32 PM

You never know, somebody may want it, if the aircraft is mint condition and has been well maintained. Worst case scenario is that it would be sold for scrap.

How about some kind of a huge restaurant/hotel/community center type deal in the middle of one of the wetlands around Dhaka that are being filled up?

shatilislam

January 15th, 2010, 04:50 PM

Another pic of Biman's new T7 from planepictures.net

http://www.planepictures.net/a/90/86/1263501673.jpg

Please paste the link in a separate browser window.

Silv3r

January 15th, 2010, 05:41 PM

This is on dailystar yesterday. So maybe Imran might be busy with this.

http://www.edailystar.com/contents/2010/2010_01_15/content_zoom/2010_01_15_13_6_b.jpg

iasif

January 15th, 2010, 06:48 PM

If my memory serves me correctly, Imran Asif use his mobile phone to reply lot of the post, maybe the battery run out? :lol: On a serious note he could be really too busy to post any update on biman 772ER delivery... :)

I'm here...I'm here! Just been a little too tied up trying to get things together prior to the delivery of the 1st 777, and making final preparations to confirm the 2nd 777, which is of essence!

The 1st 777 (CS-TFM) is in Lisbon now, as you all already know, awaiting completion of legislative processes by the Portuguese CAA. The delivery to Biman will be later than the originally anticipated date of 15th Jan, but not too late though! And of course, you folks will know the arrival details in time! :)

Here's another pic while it was in Singapore getting its tail painted...

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd236/TheCoolOnes/EAABG777-5.jpg

More pics from Lisbon will soon follow!

BA7E7

January 15th, 2010, 06:48 PM

This is on dailystar yesterday. So maybe Imran might be busy with this.

http://www.edailystar.com/contents/2010/2010_01_15/content_zoom/2010_01_15_13_6_b.jpg

Hmm... Regent Airways? Dash 8-300? Here we go again guys. :)

iasif

January 15th, 2010, 06:52 PM

This is on dailystar yesterday. So maybe Imran might be busy with this.

Well...what do you know! Give it all another 2-3 months..and you should be in for some pleasant surprises! ;)

Silv3r

January 15th, 2010, 06:59 PM

:ohno: once again.. leaving the good news for the last minute

BA7E7

January 15th, 2010, 07:08 PM

I'm here...I'm here! Just been a little too tied up trying to get things together prior to the delivery of the 1st 777, and making final preparations to confirm the 2nd 777, which is of essence!

The 1st 777 (CS-TFM) is in Lisbon now, as you all already know, awaiting completion of legislative processes by the Portuguese CAA. The delivery to Biman will be later than the originally anticipated date of 15th Jan, but not too late though! And of course, you folks will know the arrival details in time! :)

Here's another pic while it was in Singapore getting its tail painted...

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd236/TheCoolOnes/EAABG777-5.jpg

More pics from Lisbon will soon follow!

You are back imran bhai.. god bless, so, delivery will be later than the originally anticipated date ha. what the new delivery date? no wonder nothing on the news, anyway thank you so much for the update. :colgate:

MohammedC

January 15th, 2010, 07:12 PM

So it was not delivered today.

That means no chance of me boarding on it from LHR on 16th of January.:cry:

BA7E7

January 15th, 2010, 07:16 PM

Well...what do you know! Give it all another 2-3 months..and you should be in for some pleasant surprises! ;)

I can't wait for the surprise, and to see regent airways livery... :)

BA7E7

January 15th, 2010, 07:27 PM

So it was not delivered today.

That means no chance of me boarding on it from LHR on 16th of January.:cry:

Oh i'm sorry for you brov, but hopefully it will be delivered before you return to london.. :)

rinathq

January 16th, 2010, 01:01 AM

Here is the additional picture of Bangladesh Biman B777-212ER (CS-TFM) in new colours. In Lisboa (Portugal). Picture from Luis Vieira @ Planepictures.net.

http://i49.tinypic.com/2din3w9.jpg

Dream Come true:cheers:

MohammedC

January 16th, 2010, 03:04 AM

Oh i'm sorry for you brov, but hopefully it will be delivered before you return to london.. :)

I hope so.

Damn I was looking forward to it.:ohno:

nacief_aviator

January 16th, 2010, 05:34 AM

I don't know, but it seems that Regent Airways just might be the new name for Royal Bengal Airlines.....I maybe just nuts....but is there any possibility of that.......??:)

iasif

January 16th, 2010, 05:36 AM

I hope so.

Damn I was looking forward to it.:ohno:

Even if the aircraft was delivered on 15/01, you still probably wouldn't have had it for your flight on 16/01 since, after its arrival in DAC, acceptance by Biman and local legislation could take up to 2 working days before the first commercial flight is operated.

But of course, you might have it on your return flight! What's your planned date for that? :)

MohammedC

January 16th, 2010, 09:18 AM

Even if the aircraft was delivered on 15/01, you still probably wouldn't have had it for your flight on 16/01 since, after its arrival in DAC, acceptance by Biman and local legislation could take up to 2 working days before the first commercial flight is operated.

But of course, you might have it on your return flight! What's your planned date for that? :)

in 4 weeks time. Date not fixed yet.

TIslam

January 16th, 2010, 04:15 PM

I don't know whether I'm going back to becoming a kid again, but last night I dreamt about that CS-TFM 772, for most of the night. Not that I care but their new livery. Too much excitement I suppose, for BG finally coming up in the world, as far as equipment is concerned. :cheers2:

Manazir

January 16th, 2010, 06:52 PM

^^
indeed haha

iasif

January 16th, 2010, 07:04 PM

New photos from Lisbon...

Photo 1/14:
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd236/TheCoolOnes/777-01.jpg

Photo 2/14:
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd236/TheCoolOnes/777-02.jpg

Photo 3/14:
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd236/TheCoolOnes/777-03.jpg

Photo 4/14:
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd236/TheCoolOnes/777-06.jpg

Photo 5/14:
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd236/TheCoolOnes/777-05.jpg

Photo 6/14:
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd236/TheCoolOnes/777-08.jpg

Photo 7/14:
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd236/TheCoolOnes/777-09.jpg

Photo 8/14:
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd236/TheCoolOnes/777-10.jpg

Photo 9/14:
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd236/TheCoolOnes/777-11.jpg

Photo 10/14:
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd236/TheCoolOnes/777-12.jpg

Photo 11/14:
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd236/TheCoolOnes/777-13.jpg

Photo 12/14:
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd236/TheCoolOnes/777-14.jpg

Photo 13/14:
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd236/TheCoolOnes/777-15.jpg

Photo 14/14:
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd236/TheCoolOnes/777-16.jpg

These pics are first seen here at Skyscrapercity...so we can afford to feel 'privileged'! ;)

:cheers2:

Moin

January 16th, 2010, 07:05 PM

One of the country's oldest conglomerates Habib Group plans to venture into aviation business, a growing market in Bangladesh.

The nearly Tk 1,600 crore group has 21 manufacturing and service sector concerns, ranging from apparels, power, steel and paper to fertilisers.

It has already formed an entity -- HG Aviation Ltd -- as part of its plan to form an airline, Regent Airways, insiders said.

The new airline eyes launching domestic flights by March, the first quarter of 2010.

“It is the captive market of nearly 1 crore Bangladeshis that has inspired us to consider airline business,” Yasin Ali, managing director of Habib Group's Chittagong based entities, told The Daily Star over phone yesterday.

“We want to capture a portion of these of travellers and operate a commercially viable carrier,” he said. “Our goal is to be a premier airline, earning high regards from travellers within the country as well as from across continents.”

Habib Group, which records over Tk 2,000 crore in annual turnover, gets into the new area of business at a time when three local carriers -- state-owned Biman and private carriers GMG and United Airways -- are competing with over 15 foreign carriers. The carriers strive to secure a share of the increasing travel market, dominated by migrant workers.

However, various limitations, such as a lack of strong financial backup and insufficient fleet, bar local carriers from taking full advantage of the air travel market of more than 35 lakh people heading to different international destinations a year.

Two other domestic carriers -- Best Air and Royal Bengal of Aviana Airways -- are now grounded.

Presently, foreign airlines carry about 60 percent of travellers to and from Bangladesh, stakeholders said.

Yasin, who is also chairman of the planned Regent Airways, said the carrier wants to compete with foreign carriers by providing better services and competitive fares to attract both Bangladeshi and foreign travellers.

“Our vision is to operate in some selected markets and have enough aircraft to serve travellers,” he said.

Officials concerned said HG Aviation will seek permission from the Civil Aviation Authority of Bangladesh (CAAB) by the end of January.

“We expect to begin our domestic flights as soon as we receive approval from the authorities,” said Imran Asif, who works as consultant for HG Aviation Ltd.

He said preparations to apply to the CAAB are underway.

“It takes time to collect aircraft. Before we apply for permission, we are taking preparations to ready ourselves first," he said, adding that the company has confirmed from where they will source aircraft.

According to Imran, two Dash-8 aircraft will be leased to operate flights on domestic routes.

“We hope to begin domestic flights within two weeks of receiving permission,” he said. “We aspire to begin flights on international routes by mid-year.”

Imran said Regent Airways does not aim to compete head on with local carriers, such as Biman.

“We are not interested in engaging in any price war. We rather want to launch competition by providing quality services to travellers,” he said.

http://www.thedailystar.net/story.php?nid=122162

Moin

January 16th, 2010, 07:10 PM

New photos from Lisbon...

These pics are first seen here at Skyscrapercity...so we can afford to feel 'privileged'! ;)

:cheers2:

The interior seems unchanged?

iasif

January 16th, 2010, 07:23 PM

The interior seems unchanged?

Yep...and at 2-3-2 in J and 3-3-3 in Y, you'd love it!

Clipper747

January 16th, 2010, 07:59 PM

Clipper747

January 16th, 2010, 07:59 PM

sulz132

January 16th, 2010, 08:05 PM

Oh snap! We got PTV's........:nuts:
Emirates - thank you for your service, but I'm going patriotic.

nacief_aviator

January 16th, 2010, 09:07 PM

WOW......thanks for the flight deck view mr. asif......

thank you so very much.........:)

iamkarib

January 16th, 2010, 09:08 PM

New photos from Lisbon...

These pics are first seen here at Skyscrapercity...so we can afford to feel 'privileged'! ;)

:cheers2:

thanx a lot man,'privileged' is right!!!:) and do check your inbox tomorrow :)

TIslam

January 16th, 2010, 09:32 PM

I saw somewhere Biman is looking for cadet pilots. Are they anticipating a shortage? Or is this a natural life cycle process (retirement -> promotion -> vacancy)?

Manazir

January 16th, 2010, 09:33 PM

Imran bhai, thank you very much for such awesome pics. Loved the interior and cockpit :) ......and hope to see Regent doing well

Manazir

January 16th, 2010, 09:34 PM

And with that, we almost reach 100 pages, time to start part 6 :)

TIslam

January 16th, 2010, 09:40 PM

iasif

January 16th, 2010, 09:58 PM

Hi asif welcome back. is this aircraft going to get a Bangladeshi S2-??? reg if so do you know what that is. any how do let us know when it starts London flights so i can go Film it come inn.....................

This aircraft, throughout the wet-lease part of the lease term will retain its Portuguese registration. It's only during the stipulated dry-lease part of the lease term that the aircraft may be registered in Bangladesh.

TIslam

January 17th, 2010, 01:42 AM

This aircraft, throughout the wet-lease part of the lease term will retain its Portuguese registration. It's only during the stipulated dry-lease part of the lease term that the aircraft may be registered in Bangladesh.

Isn't that the norm? BTW, is the cockpit crew going to be from Portugal?

aktarahmed

January 17th, 2010, 01:59 AM

Many thanks Imran bhai for the pics!! She does look marvellous! And good luck with Regent Airways - hope to see that in London someday too http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/1.gif

iasif

January 17th, 2010, 03:03 AM

Isn't that the norm? BTW, is the cockpit crew going to be from Portugal?

That is the usual norm. However, it is also possible to register the aircraft is Lessee's state of registry while the aircraft is still on wet-lease, subject to mutual agreement between the Lessor and the Lessee and their respective CAA's.

The cockpit crew with be predominantly composed of Brazilian and Portuguese crews.

Manazir

January 17th, 2010, 09:13 AM

since the moderators seem to be absent for sometime, I am going to start part 6 and please post there (i dont have authority to close this thread) so yeah, i request y'all to post in part 6 :)

Biman

January 18th, 2010, 08:25 AM

Hi guys,

Just got back to the US after a 8 day trip to Dhaka. Wanted to share these pictures with you all:

http://www.myaviation.net/search/search.php?uid=9688
http://www.airlinefan.com/airline-photos/photographer/206/Shabbir-A.-Bashar%2C-PhD/

Imran, thanks for the pictures of the Biman 777 with the new livery. It'll take a while before I get used to it. How old is this aircraft? The cabin outfit looks a bit dated ...

Anyone flown on GMG's S2-ADO lately? The rear toilet looks like a scene out of 70s Vietnam. Lucky me ... I got food poisoning DAC-BKK-KUL. Apparently, Biman also has this dubious reputation in both Dhaka expat circles and foreign visitors to Bangladesh ... What is it with Bangladeshi airlines and just basic hygiene?

iamkarib

January 18th, 2010, 07:15 PM

iasif

January 18th, 2010, 08:46 PM

Imran, thanks for the pictures of the Biman 777 with the new livery. It'll take a while before I get used to it. How old is this aircraft? The cabin outfit looks a bit dated ...

Anyone flown on GMG's S2-ADO lately? The rear toilet looks like a scene out of 70s Vietnam. Lucky me ... I got food poisoning DAC-BKK-KUL. Apparently, Biman also has this dubious reputation in both Dhaka expat circles and foreign visitors to Bangladesh ... What is it with Bangladeshi airlines and just basic hygiene?

Nice pics!!!And I bet the biman people cant even spell 'hygiene' :P

The aircraft (MSN 28513; CS-TFM) is 1998 vintage, and by Biman's prevailing standards, the cabin on this bird would be 'cutting-edge'! ;)

As for hygiene, I can tell this much, hands on heart, that Biman's catering facility (BFCC) is the finest food processing setup in the whole of Bangladesh...and you really have to see it to believe it! Of course, this is not to say that Biman serves top-class meals on its own flights, but they used to and still do cater for major carriers such as Etihad.

As for the maintaining hygiene on lavatories on board their aircraft, its often not easy for many airlines around the world who serves the markets predominantly composed of unskilled labour traffic. What do you do with the lavatories when certain pax choose to (i) sit up on top of the bowl since they're not used to high potties; or (ii) washes their feet by putting their feet into the bowl as a part of 'wadu' and then leaves blue marks on the floor as they walk out?

And there's worse! I have it from experienced crew members of European charter operators who have operated Hajj charters from/to some African countries...like pax leaving their poo on top of the closed lid of the bowl...or even such as peeing on the floor while seated on their seats! Unbelievable? Believe it! There are thousands out there who thinks it is the duty of the cabin crew members to clean up whatever mess they'd create inside the aircraft.

The bottom-line really is that while airlines and their crewmembers can do all they can to keep their aircraft clean, they won't accomplish any of it unless their passengers learn to maintain minimum hygiene themselves.

iamkarib

January 18th, 2010, 11:18 PM

As for hygiene, I can tell this much, hands on heart, that Biman's catering facility (BFCC) is the finest food processing setup in the whole of Bangladesh...and you really have to see it to believe it! Of course, this is not to say that Biman serves top-class meals on its own flights, but they used to and still do cater for major carriers such as Etihad.

As for the maintaining hygiene on lavatories on board their aircraft, its often not easy for many airlines around the world who serves the markets predominantly composed of unskilled labour traffic. What do you do with the lavatories when certain pax choose to (i) sit up on top of the bowl since they're not used to high potties; or (ii) washes their feet by putting their feet into the bowl as a part of 'wadu' and then leaves blue marks on the floor as they walk out?

And there's worse! I have it from experienced crew members of European charter operators who have operated Hajj charters from/to some African countries...like pax leaving their poo on top of the closed lid of the bowl...or even such as peeing on the floor while seated on their seats! Unbelievable? Believe it! There are thousands out there who thinks it is the duty of the cabin crew members to clean up whatever mess they'd create inside the aircraft.

The bottom-line really is that while airlines and their crewmembers can do all they can to keep their aircraft clean, they won't accomplish any of it unless their passengers learn to maintain minimum hygiene themselves.

Thanx iasif for the view:) But let me tell you this,I know a former BA senior cabin crew(who was also the catering head in CCU)and she was requested by BFCC management to train some of their staff, who are up for promotions.I personally sat through one of their classes(!!!),asked them a few questions and was surprised to find that they didn't know the four basic zones in an airport or how many types of food trolleys there are. And keep in mind, these men are being trained so that they could be promoted. I agree with you completely that BFCC serves tasty meals(I still can't forget the taste of their curries and sandwiches)but so does Fakhruddin, and how many people have seen their kitchen?What I am saying is that BFCC has damn good cooks,but what worries me is that BFCC upgraded their setup after an inspection team from BA filed a serious complaint for not following proper food preparation procedures and not to mention the serious lack of hygiene in the facility itself, now the question comes to mind is that are those standards still being maintained, because BA is no longer there to watch over them...