http://www.bangaloremirror.com/article/10/2011052320110523000315484d0d9f50c/Jakkur-flying-school-set-to-be-grounded.html
Goofed up again I see.
It's the NHAI project that's going on.
The HSRL is nowhere near start.

Staff Reporter

BANGALORE: Saidas Malladi, a cricket enthusiast from the city, is the envy of cricket fans across the country as he has successfully bid for the autographed T20 Volkswagen Passat auctioned by eBay India.

The charity auction, which was open for 10 days, saw 26 bidders and the winning bid was a staggering Rs. 30,13,000. The proceeds of the auction will go to WWF, India.

Signature car

The Passat, which was on display throughout the IPL, sports the signatures of all captains of the T20 teams. The signature car will also be accompanied by a similarly autographed bat.
http://www.hindu.com/2011/05/25/stories/2011052560410200.htm

Karnataka State politicians are a bunch of petty pricks.

Karnataka is damn lucky that Bangalore did not became part of TN during the reorganization to linguistic states. Had Kamaraj pushed a bit harder, it could have been so, however, he was a real statesman with a vision of a unified India sans pettiness. Today, a bunch of scum bags rule Karnataka and most states for that matter.

Ved Vedamanikam
Austin, TX
Mods doesn't this guy require a Warning he is Attacking a state and it's capital

Bangalore man has solution for world’s water woes (http://www.dnaindia.com/bangalore/report_bangalore-man-has-solution-for-worlds-water-woes_1547593)

Here’s an idea that could come to the rescue of water-starved cities. Collect fresh water from rivers before it flows into the sea and pump it into supply channels. That is interlinking of rivers over the sea, a new technology evolved by city-based inventor-founder Revankar Krishna Prasad.

Interlinking of rivers over land is cost-intensive and cumbersome.

The National Council of Applied Economic Research has estimated it at `4.44 lakh crore in a 2007 report.But linking rivers over sea using this method would be 100 times cheaper, says Prasad who has applied for a patent.

The World Intellectual Property Organisation, under Patent Co-operation Treaty, has certified all his 10 claims. The technology is under examination by the patent office in Chennai.

The entrepreneur, who has been working on various solutions through his company Carbonda Global, has applied for eight patents in all.

Sea water no good
Water that flows into the sea is of no use. If harnessed before it mixes with sea water, it would help ease the pressure on water boards all over the state. At least 2,000tmc of water flows into the sea from west-flowing rivers of Karnataka. The dispute between Karnataka and Tamil Nadu is just for 100 tmc, he says.

The idea is to create a channel using waste plastic. This channel would float on the sea and collect water from the point were the river meets the sea. The water would then flow through the channel to the next point where it could be used.

“It’s like a dynamic river on the sea. There would be a thin barrier separating the fresh water from the salt water,” Prasad explains.

What if there is a leak in the plastic sheet? Prasad has thought of that too. The electrodes would alert maintenance staff the moment salt water enters the channel and even point to the exact spot of the leakage. At the heart of the technology is the isolator connector that would make the channel flexible.

The channel can be towed around on the sea. Its exact position can be communicated to the boat’s antennae from coast-based transmitters.

“Even the GPS system can be used if it is cost-effective. We are using antennae to receive signals from transmitters on the coast as it is cheaper,” he says.

The channel will also be provided with disconnectors to allow huge ships to pass. There are U-shaped connector chambers with swirl joints which will allow parts of the channel to go underwater so huge ships can move over without damaging it. The same method can be used to harvest rain water. In fact, it was with this thought that it all began.

“When I read that Singapore consumes treated water, I wondered why they don’t harvest rain water. The volume falling on sea is several times higher than that falling on land, as per the United National Environment Programme’s World’s Water Cycle,” he says.

Using the same concept, lakes that grow vegetation can be formed on sea. Floating aquatic plants like Azolla that fix carbon dioxide can be cultivated on these, he says.Prasad has also applied for a patent for a similar technology that can be used to manage oil spills.

More room in the sea
“There is plenty of space on the sea which is available at low cost. Storage on sea is cheaper. So sewage can be treated on the sea, cities can be kept clean and the water can be used by industries,” says Prasad, who is looking for investors to fund his first project.

Mods doesn't this guy require a Warning he is Attacking a state and it's capital

why you pull comments from other forums?? In fact hosur should have belonged to karnataka :cheers: Same with ooty and kasargod.. But lets move on. They are saying infy sez in sarjapur was held up because it is close to TN border

why you pull comments from other forums?? In fact hosur should have belonged to karnataka :cheers: Same with ooty and kasargod.. But lets move on. They are saying infy sez in sarjapur was held up because it is close to TN border

:lol:

why you pull comments from other forums?? In fact hosur should have belonged to karnataka :cheers: Same with ooty and kasargod.. But lets move on. They are saying infy sez in sarjapur was held up because it is close to TN border
Hosur is better off in TN.
Udagai too ...

Ahok kheny NICE MD comments on Devegowda

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Kheny belagavi basha nyaag mathadakathar,baal kattin aagthaeti bengaloorina kannada shabdgol haakak.:lol:Yel hodru Namm Belagavi kannada zabardast kelalka...

Isn't Kheny from Bidar?

Isn't Kheny from Bidar?

North Kannada is mostly referred as Dharwad basha or Belagavi kannada in the south.

You can get details of tenders/works here:

https://eproc.karnataka.gov.in/eportal/index.seam#

Click on list of Tenders.You can check out depts like KSRTC/BMTC/BBMP etc

Found this :)


1 BMTC-Central-Office BMTC:CO:TR:COM:ESA: 328 :2011-12

Development of Traffic & Transit Management Centre in Hebbal, Bangalore under Public Private Partnership (PPP) mode

OPEN SERVICES ---- 25/04/2011 14:45:55 14/06/2011 17:00:00

You can get details of tenders/works here:

https://eproc.karnataka.gov.in/eportal/index.seam#

Click on list of Tenders.You can check out depts like KSRTC/BMTC/BBMP etc

Found this :)


1 BMTC-Central-Office BMTC:CO:TR:COM:ESA: 328 :2011-12

Development of Traffic & Transit Management Centre in Hebbal, Bangalore under Public Private Partnership (PPP) mode

OPEN SERVICES ---- 25/04/2011 14:45:55 14/06/2011 17:00:00
Came in the papers in January too..
Also there was a tender issued for a grade separator at Kengeri outside the TTMC.

BANGALORE: Forgot the name of your favourite showroom in Delhi's Connaught Place or Mumbai's Colaba or Bangalore's Brigade Road? There'll soon be an easy way out. With the click of a mouse, you can virtually roam the locality and locate the shop that failed your memory.

That's what Google's Street View does. This popular feature of Google Maps is making its India foray through a Bangalore launch.

The web giant on Thursday took the first step of putting its camera-mounted cars on Bangalore roads to capture images of landmarks. To access narrow and uneven roads, Google employs a trike, a camera-mounted modified bicycle.

The captured photographs are processed and stitched for a 360-degree view before they are attached to Google Maps. To use Street View, log into Google Map, click and place "the pegman" (an image of a person seen on top of the navigation tool) on the street you want to visit. And what you get is a high-resolution, near-life panoramic view of the location.

Street View already has landmark database of more than 100 cities across 27 countries. The feature is available on mobiles too.

Google India product head Vinay Goel said Street View has multiple uses for both individuals and organizations. "It lets users check out restaurants before arriving, make travel plans and arrange meeting points. It helps the tourism department, for example, to showcase a monument by embedding the Google Map directly into their site for free. Prospective buyers of a house can do an online locality recce before the actual visit."

Google is not the first to do this in Bangalore. A start-up called VidTeq has used camera-mounted vehicles to take videos of most Bangalore roads, and provides these as online videos to help people find directions and places. Companies, especially those in real estate and retail, use the service to provide directions to their properties. The videos require more bandwidth than Google's Street View, but provide much greater detail.

Privacy concerns

Dispelling privacy concerns, Goel said only images of public places will be captured. "These images are no different from what a person can readily see or capture walking down the street."

"As an additional privacy protection measure, the faces and number plates of vehicles seen in the photographs will be blurred," he said. "If there are concerns still, the user can click on 'report a problem' button on the bottom-right corner of Street View image. Once the claim is verified, the image is removed."


Source:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/Google-takes-a-Street-View-of-Bangalore/articleshow/8593947.cms

BANGALORE: With the city emerging as a hub for international business travel, global hospitality brands are checking into Bangalore rather rapidly. Starwood Hotels and Resorts opened Sheraton Hotel at Brigade Gateway in Malleswaram last week. Switzerland-based Movenpick Hotels & Resorts is opening its first 5-star property in the country in Bangalore on June 1.

Many more are in line, and over the next two years, the city will witness an addition of 2,500 rooms across categories (3-star budget to 5-star luxury). Bangalore currently has about 5,550 rooms in these categories.

Several of the new launches will be in the five-star deluxe category. Prestige Estates Projects has partnered with JW Marriott to build a 300-room luxury resort hotel —Prestige Golfshire — on Nandi Hills Road. Shangri-La on Palace Road and Ritz Carlton on Residency Road are expected to be ready within the next two years.

"A fair amount of supply has come into Bangalore which has allowed for some rate rationalization. However,there are many micro markets in Bangalore that continue to do well," said Manav Thadani, chairman of hospitality consultancy firm HVS.

Micro markets of Whitefield, Electronics City and Outer Ring Road are seeing new supplies with many IT/ITeS companies expanding on the periphery. MDB Zephyr, part of New Delhi-based MBD Group, is setting up a 200-room luxury hotel in Whitefield. Hospitality brand Alila is doing a 120-room luxury hotel in Whitefield.

Business travellers account for 80% of the demand for rooms in Bangalore. The meetings and conferences segment and the leisure segment account for 5% and 3% , according to real estate consultancy Cushman & Wakefield. "A large chunk of business is driven by corporates. Except for Aero India, there aren't big events coming to Bangalore," said Akshay Kulkarni, executive director for hospitality services South Asia, in Cushman & Wakefield. The average room rate peaked at Rs 8,500 in 2007 as per Cushman & Wakefield hospitality report 2010 . It dropped to Rs 6,600 in 2009, and has since hardened by 10-15% because of rising demand.

The incremental room supply will result in softening of room rates in the short to medium term. "Occupancy rates in Bangalore are improving with average rates more or less flat compared to last year. With the new supply, the growth in business will be absorbed leaving occupancy and average daily rates flat," said Chris Moloney, COO, South West Asia, Intercontinental Hotels Group (IHG), which will soon launch Holiday Inn Hotels and Resorts in Bangalore.

Dilip Puri, MD-India, Starwood Asia Pacific Hotels & Resorts, said the luxury room rates have corrected after the steep rise in 2007. "The average room rate for luxury hotels shot up to $400 some three years back. The recession brought about a reality check. Rentals are exactly where they should be today. Anything between $200-$250 per room night are realistic."

Source:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/Global-hospitality-majors-check-into-Bangalore/articleshow/8597796.cms

Kheny belagavi basha nyaag mathadakathar,baal kattin aagthaeti bengaloorina kannada shabdgol haakak.:lol:Yel hodru Namm Belagavi kannada zabardast kelalka...

Sundara sumadhura. :lol:

Heard this word after 3 long years.

why you pull comments from other forums?? In fact hosur should have belonged to karnataka :cheers: Same with ooty and kasargod.. But lets move on. They are saying infy sez in sarjapur was held up because it is close to TN border

Why? I would love if they move out to Hubli/belgaum/Gulburga

Some great news for bengalurians

Bangalore
Google to launch street view in Bangalore
indianexpress Express News Service , The New Indian Express
Posted on May 27, 2011 at 02:34am IST


BANGALORE: Citing Bangalore's status as the country's tech capital, Google announced on Thursday that it will begin imagery collection in the city for the Street View feature on Google Maps.

Sharing their operational model, company officials said Google's cars and Trikes, a specially designed three-wheel pedicab with a camera system mounted on top, will begin driving and taking street-level photographs of public locations around the city.

The images will be made available in the coming months in Street View on Google Maps. The company did not the reveal the exact day of the feature's launch.

Stating that the maps technology was already available in 27 other countries, they said this allows users to virtually explore and navigate a neighbourhood through panoramic street-level images. They added that the product would be available on Google Maps for mobiles. Company officials said they would start gathering images from select locations in the area over the next few weeks.

Speaking about their new venture, product head of the company, Vinay Goel said they had decided to start driving in Bangalore because it is the IT capital of India and feel that IT-savvy users will be able to leverage the benefits of the product to the fullest. He said Street View was also useful for urban development planners, law enforcement agencies, house hunters and travellers.

Addressing concerns of security and privacy, he said the product will respect privacy and has developed highly sophisticated technology that blurs faces and number plates of vehicles.

Goel said the product was designed to comply with local laws, including those of security and privacy.

Some great news for bengalurians
Discussion over here:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1387386&highlight=

why you pull comments from other forums?? In fact hosur should have belonged to karnataka :cheers: Same with ooty and kasargod.. But lets move on. They are saying infy sez in sarjapur was held up because it is close to TN border
Its true about Hosur given that name with a "Ha" in the front. I don't think it applies to Ooty. It is good that the peaks of the Western Ghats have been divided between TN, KA and KL.

http://www.deccanheraldepaper.com/pdf/2011/05/31/20110531aB002100004.jpg

31 May, 2011, 09.29AM IST,TNN
Cities are India’s future (http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/et-cetera/cities-are-indias-future/articleshow/8659425.cms)
The wave of urbanisation that is sweeping across India represents one of the country's greatest opportunities as well as one of its most serious challenges.

According to the report on 'India's Urban Awakening' by McKinsey Global Institute, in the next 20 years, India will have 68 cities with a population over one million - up from 42 today. That is nearly twice as many cities as all of Europe.

India's urban population will increase from 340 million to 590 million. To put it in global terms, about 10% of humanity will reside in Indian cities.

There is room for this sort of demographic change. Only 30% of Indians live in cities, in comparison with 74% of Germans and 82% of Americans.

And the change holds great promise for India. The McKinsey study predicts that Indian cities could generate 70% of net new employment, produce more than 70% of Indian GDP, and quadruple the national per capita income.

Best of all, these new, modern cities could create an enormous increase in the number of middle-class households.

It is estimated that 91 million urban households will be middle class by 2030, up from 22 million today.
Without question, successful urban development represents India's best opportunity to maintain its current economic momentum and to achieve a prosperous, dynamic future.

But urbanisation in India poses an urgent and difficult challenge, too often characterised by widespread poverty, poor urban infrastructure and environmental degradation.

India's existing megacities are already suffering from a lack of sufficient infrastructure investment . Where China is spending Rs 5,132 per capita on infrastructure annually, India is spending just Rs 752.

A developed country like Germany has the capacity to produce roughly 1.7 kilowatts of electricity per person; India's capacity is about 0.15 kilowatts.

India must address the current problems of urban decay, traffic gridlock and a deteriorating quality of life for many of its citizens.

It must also address the enormous capital investment of roughly five trillion (or five lakh crore rupees) required over the next 20 years to meet the projected infrastructure demands of creating the more viable, more livable cities of tomorrow.

Those demands include creating billions of square metres of roads, over 7,000 km of subways and metros, endless sewage and water systems and so much residential and commercial space that it is equivalent to building two cities the size of Mumbai every year.

It is an enormous challenge - yet it is a challenge that can be met with adequate resolve. Wellconceived cities will not only improve the quality of life for India's citizens, they will attract investment, grow the tax base, unlock new growth markets, create a much larger, stronger middle class, boost India's GDP and generate a huge increase in average national income.

Recently, chairman of the Association of Municipalities and Development Authorities Noor Mohammed said, "The chances of success in developing efficient and sustainable cities in India are much higher when synergistic partnerships are evolved to deal with these challenges."

This is true. Many industrialised nations have trod this path before and could play an active role in helping to meet India's urbanisation challenge - through investments, trade, economic partnerships, new industrial development. Germany hopes to be one of those synergistic partner nations.

That is because Germany and India are natural partners, with shared interests, strong commercial and strategic ties and a long history of cultural and economic relations.

Today that partnership is stronger than ever. Germany is India's largest trading partner in Europe and fifth largest customer and exporter to India. Trade volume between the two countries exceeded Rs 1.9 lakh crore in 2010.

That number is expected to climb by 70% over the next two decades. And together the countries are engaged in fruitful partnerships in many areas of research and development in science and technology.

The most recent example is the Indo-German Max Planck Centre at IIT Delhi , which was inaugurated last February by former German federal president Kohler.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel is now in New Delhi to meet with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh in advance of the 'Year of Germany' that will begin in India in September, marking 60 years of good relations between the two nations. Next year, a 'Year of India' will be held in Germany.

Trade will clearly occupy a good deal of the meetings between the two heads of state. That is good news for everyone involved.

Only by maintaining high rates of economic growth, trade and technology transfer can India ensure that the urbanisation of its vast population will take place smoothly and successfully .

And Germany's more developed, if somewhat smaller, cities will only maintain their vitality by continuing to participate in the global marketplace for goods, ideas and culture.

The strong business relationship and friendship between India and Germany will provide one of the synergistic partnerships that will help India seize the opportunity to create the good, clean, livable cities of tomorrow - cities that will allow its citizens to live happier, more prosperous lives and that will enable India to fully realise its enormous economic potential.

--Axel C Heitmann, CEO of LANXESS AG , a specialty chemicals company headquartered in Germany--

^^We need to concentrate on Quality(lifestyle) and not junk mega cities we have at present."Junk Mega cities" - That is the truth.

^^We need to concentrate on Quality(lifestyle) and not junk mega cities we have at present."Junk Mega cities" - That is the truth.
The problem is that people feel if things are Indian, then quality of life is low, as compared to when they western.

The problem is that people feel if things are Indian, then quality of life is low, as compared to when they western.

I bet life in tier two cities like Mysore and Mangalore is better than Bangalore.No need to bring west here....:|
So called megacities in India are rotting.

I bet life in tier two cities like Mysore and Mangalore is better than Bangalore.No need to bring west here....:|
So called megacities in India are rotting.
I think you are gonna get banged by gentem. :lol:

Bangalore: Bangalore, that boasted its tag of the country's IT capital, may now lose it, according to a survey.
A survey undertaken by Associated Chambers of Commerce and Industry of India (Assocham), warning of this imminent threat, says the status would soon belong to the National Capital Region (NCR) of Noida and Gurgaon as more companies have expressed their interest in setting up shop there.
This would include IT, IT-enabled services (ITes), business process outsourcing (BPO), knowledge process outsourcing (KPO) and other areas of operations

According to the report, the agency cited that "crumbling infrastructure" is one of the main causes for this trend. It has also said that companies are moving towards more "convenient and industrial-friendly centres".
Justifying their findings, Assocham secretary general DS Rawat said, "The growth explosion in Bangalore has pushed the city towards serious civic issues." He further attributed the problems to power shortages, inadequate and unreliable water supply, heavy traffic, roads and also poor sanitation facilities.
Identifying these issues as the main problems, he further states that Gurgaon and Noida have, on the contrary, been growing rapidly against and increasing their odds.
The forum stated that they interacted with around 800 CEOs, CFOs and managing directors of both Indian and multinational companies.
The forum stated that the survey was conducted in five cities where they saw the best advantage to operate from. Assocham claims that nearly 30 per cent evinced interest in moving to Gurgaon, while another 25 per cent were willing to move to Noida. About 20 per cent wished to shift to Chandigarh, 15 per cent to Pune and 10 per cent to Hyderabad, their report stated.
"Gurgaon's cosmopolitan culture, modern infrastructure, availability of skilled workforce and closeness to Delhi, along with industry-friendly government policies are the factors which give it an edge over Bangalore city," Rawat said
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/bangalore-to-lose-the-it-capital-tag-survey/155544-11.html

I think you are gonna get banged by gentem. :lol:
Yep.
Baba gentem the great who says Staircases are unhealthy.
I bet life in tier two cities like Mysore and Mangalore is better than Bangalore.No need to bring west here....:|
So called megacities in India are rotting.
When it comes to the fact that Mysore ahs better air quality, water quality, less congestion and [not too sure about this] more literate people, YES.

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/bangalore-to-lose-the-it-capital-tag-survey/155544-11.html
:wtf::wtf:

I think there is no limit to the nonsense news by the Northie channels. :bash:

:wtf::wtf:

I think there is no limit to the nonsense news by the Northie channels. :bash:

They think ITes (aka call centers and BPO companies) are same as IT or IT development centers :nuts: . Thats the reason for such nonsense news.

^^ been long time Sanarchie since u posted

^^ been long time Sanarchie since u posted

I will try to active now onwards. I keep track of the forum but.... :lurker: :lol:

No way NCR can beat even Chennai or Hyderabad, forget Bangalore.

:wtf::wtf:

I think there is no limit to the nonsense news by the Northie channels. :bash:

Northie channels...humnnn...I believe 800 CEO's were not from North India....isn't it...and yeah ASSOCHAM.....oh


http://news.in.msn.com/business/article.aspx?cp-documentid=5185358

Is MSN a northie site???

They think ITes (aka call centers and BPO companies) are same as IT or IT development centers :nuts: . Thats the reason for such nonsense news.

Just BPO's & Call Centers ...are you sure....doesn't it read IT as well...humnnn

No way NCR can beat even Chennai or Hyderabad, forget Bangalore.

Allright..If you say so...anyways any reason why....have been to NCR???

Allright..If you say so...anyways any reason why....have been to NCR???

Cost of Living and nothing else.. Chennai, Hyderabad have a lower cost of living than even Pune.. And cost of living in Gurgaon is insane.. Not sure about Noida though..

Just BPO's & Call Centers ...are you sure....doesn't it read IT as well...humnnn

I know you take deep exception to anything said that demeans North/Delhi and I desist myself from further defending my comments with structured analysis and further debate/arguments on this topic "PERIOD"

I know you take deep exception to anything said that demeans North/Delhi and I desist myself from further defending my comments with structured analysis and further debate/arguments on this topic "PERIOD"

Don't you guys do the same....???? aren't you the same people whining northies this northies that....wow....you feel that's ok....

I am sure if the very same channel would have stated that Bangalore or chennai rocks or are the financial capital....people would have been dancing without even complaining that's its a BLOODY NORTHIE thing....ehhh

double face??? or standards????

I ain't defending it...don't need to....we can see it happening here itself...800 ceo's have said it....why would I defend it..

Cost of Living and nothing else.. Chennai, Hyderabad have a lower cost of living than even Pune.. And cost of living in Gurgaon is insane.. Not sure about Noida though..

What does cost of living got to do.....Gurgaon is costly yes and delhi even costlier but people do get good wages and opportunities to over look it....

^^We need to concentrate on Quality(lifestyle) and not junk mega cities we have at present."Junk Mega cities" - That is the truth.

I bet life in tier two cities like Mysore and Mangalore is better than Bangalore.No need to bring west here....:|
So called megacities in India are rotting.

I guessed it by your first comment itself. But second tier city will have very less gdp compared to population ratio, mysore may have 1/8th population but gdp will be less than 1/20th of bangalore. So you cant really make a life out of there.

But for old pensioner people, yes, mysore mangalore belgaum are better than bangalore :nuts: Those old people cant digest this pizza and all.. But again they have to come to mega city if they want some good hospital

And yes, no glamor in small cities. Old ppl dont need it.

Bangalore to lose the IT capital tag: survey
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/bangalore-to-lose-the-it-capital-tag-survey/155544-11.html

When they told same about hyd 10 years ago some people took notice. Now i dont think anybody will give a damn to this report. Even papers wont print such future predictions :cheers: Google search on that gives only 1 result :lol:

But im betting on Kolkata to come up, it is closer geographically to bengalis and biharis. Infy recently got 50 acres there.

people from IT city don't know how to use google...that's strange...Lol

http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&biw=1280&bih=623&q=gurgaon+and+noida+IT+capital&oq=gurgaon+and+noida+IT+capital&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=12658l22317l0l35l35l5l14l15l0l294l3396l0.7.9

Don't you guys do the same....???? aren't you the same people whining northies this northies that....wow....you feel that's ok....

I am sure if the very same channel would have stated that Bangalore or chennai rocks or are the financial capital....people would have been dancing without even complaining that's its a BLOODY NORTHIE thing....ehhh

double face??? or standards????

I ain't defending it...don't need to....we can see it happening here itself...800 ceo's have said it....why would I defend it..

+ 1

I don't care if ncr beats it or not but that northie comment was unnecessary and bound to cause trouble. I also felt uncomfortable when I first read it but ignored it as these comments are made by certain people only.

:yes: this is fun.

Bangalore,May 31 (PTI):

In an attempt to arrest the flight of IT and BT industries from Karnataka into other states, Chief Minister B S Yeddyurappa today said a meeting with representatives of these sectors would be convened to discuss their problems.

"I will convene a meeting of IT and BT sector representatives within 15 days to discuss their problems", he told reporters after releasing a booklet on the development programmes initiated by his government in the last three years and highlighting achievements.

He was responding to a question over IT and BT industries shifting to other states particularly to neighbouring Andhra Pradesh and Tamil Nadu citing infrastructure bottlenecks in the city,as it houses majority of these units.

A day after completing three years in office, Yeddyurappa said "had not opposition parties impeded development works, I would have put Karnataka in the number one spot in terms of development".

Yeddyurappa accompanied by his some ministerial colleagues listed his government's achievements including offerring of farm credit at one per cent rate of interest, thrust given to irrigation and Suvarna bhoomi project under which Government extends Rs 10,000 assistance to farmers to procure implements.

A sum of Rs 10,000 will be deposited in the accounts of ten lakh farmers by June 15, Yeddyurappa said.
http://174.133.94.26/content/165422/karnataka-cm-convene-meet-itbt.html
This was a cooked up story by Cry Baby Companies of Bangalore Infosys and Wipro to get more land in Bangalore ,Last time they Threatened to move to Pune and got land allotted ,They are playing same old trick again

^^ Exactly, they are looking for better bargain. I dont think CM can help much to traffic problems, hope ORR flyovers will be finished soon and metro will launch this month.

^^ Exactly, they are looking for better bargain. I dont think CM can help much to traffic problems, hope ORR flyovers will be finished soon and metro will launch this month.

i think they should start work on mono rail,metro phase and hsrl at the earliest ,and should also plan for metro phase 3 and mono phase 2 and 3 ,They can do it in PPP model like hyd they do not need approval from central government

^^ I was talking about immediate gains. Kadirenahalli and ORR flyovers are the big things. And of course Metro reach 1. Recently Nayandahalli signal free road did lot of good to west bangalore traffic. You always think too much into future like metro phase 3 :)

I think best thing CM should is to improve roads where flyover constructions are going on in ORR. Uneven pothole filled deviation roads

^^ I was talking about immediate gains. Kadirenahalli and ORR flyovers are the big things. And of course Metro reach 1. Recently Nayandahalli signal free road did lot of good to west bangalore traffic. You always think too much into future like metro phase 3 :)

I think best thing CM should is to improve roads where flyover constructions are going on in ORR.

well all this underpasses are short term ,now Metro is already in progress in Kanakapura Road and Tumkur Road these should be developed as IT hubs ,and metro from mysore road should be expanded to bidadi where an IT zone can come up

Tell the CM to first widen, Bannerghatta Road, Kanakapura Road and Magadi Road till NICE Road.
THAT, is needed NOW.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k89FsFjVWos

anybody have any recent updates on this issue?

Tell the CM to first widen, Bannerghatta Road, Kanakapura Road and Magadi Road till NICE Road.
THAT, is needed NOW.

^^ And btm- roopen agrahara road and btm-bilekahalli road to reduce burden on main roads. I dont think road widening is that easy if it needs land acquisition.

well all this underpasses are short term ,now Metro is already in progress in Kanakapura Road and Tumkur Road these should be developed as IT hubs ,and metro from mysore road should be expanded to bidadi where an IT zone can come up

Underpasses at ORR cannot be called short term. A signal free ORR is a long term solution, there wont be ring metro coming up in bangalore like delhi metro phase 3..

^^ And btm- roopen agrahara road and btm-bilekahalli road to reduce burden on main roads. I dont think road widening is that easy if it needs land acquisition.



Underpasses at ORR cannot be called short term. A signal free ORR is a long term solution, there wont be ring metro coming up in bangalore like delhi metro phase 3..
BTM Bilekahalli already exixst.
It's a narrow single lane road over the Raja Caluve.

BTM Roopena Agrahara might be a problem, as NHAI is reluctant about opening the median.

As for widening Bannerghatta road, till NICE road, except at Gottigere and Kalena Agrahara, road has been levelled on both sides.
Beyond NICE Road, it is govt land for a while.

Bringing this to the notice of Bajrang Dal would give them the resolution.
Near Uttarahalli, there was a small hillock and they had put up a cross on top of it and started calling it "Aesu betta"[Jesus Hill] . Bajrang dal activists , then built a Hanumaan temple on top of it and painted in huge fonts " Hanuma Giri " :cheers:

BTM Bilekahalli already exixst.
It's a narrow single lane road over the Raja Caluve.

BTM Roopena Agrahara might be a problem, as NHAI is reluctant about opening the median.

As for widening Bannerghatta road, till NICE road, except at Gottigere and Kalena Agrahara, road has been levelled on both sides.
Beyond NICE Road, it is govt land for a while.

BTM roopena agrahara you need a bridge over madiwala lake outflow canal, that is all. Just see google maps. No need of median gap because people can reach roopen agrahara from btm and go to silk board to take U turn, morning time not much traffic this way, evening it will be free left bypassing silk board.

I think btm-bilekahalli is mud road as seen from google maps, i have to personally go there sometime and see if the road really exists. Currently lot of traffic always at bilekahalli signal..

BTM roopena agrahara you need a bridge over madiwala lake outflow canal, that is all. Just see google maps. No need of median gap because people can reach roopen agrahara from btm and go to silk board to take U turn, morning time not much traffic this way, evening it will be free left bypassing silk board.

I think btm-bilekahalli is mud road as seen from google maps, i have to personally go there sometime and see if the road really exists. Currently lot of traffic always at bilekahalli signal..
There is a tar road from 29th main, next to the lake in front of Raj lake view ... village road...
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2256/5785583350_97330cfee1.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/21232862@N00/5785583350/)
New road thru BTM (http://www.flickr.com/photos/21232862@N00/5785583350/) by srikanth.ramakrishnan (http://www.flickr.com/people/21232862@N00/), on Flickr

IF Bangergatta Road is widened Honeywell ,Oracle etc will also lose parking space ,this is an high density populated area it's not easy as you think ,Many apartments and all will go there will be hugue oppostion from people there,easy solution is build monorail ,if you keep on widening roads it's becomes smaller and smaller as years progress,what i am suggesting is Creation of Hitech City or Cyberlore which is self sustaining unlike chaos in Bangalore the New Bangalore is what i want government .

Honeywell, Oracle et all won't be touched. I'm ereferring to four laning from Meenakshi Temple to Gottigere.

Allright..If you say so...anyways any reason why....have been to NCR???
Because Gurgaon Infrastructure is pathetic even worst than Bangalore.Don't try to be over-defensive.
Infact most of projects are being shifted from Gurgoan to south cities.

When they told same about hyd 10 years ago some people took notice. Now i dont think anybody will give a damn to this report. Even papers wont print such future predictions :cheers:


+1
Bangalore will not lose its IT Capital status just because a few firms will add employees outside Bangalore..

This discussion is not new(remember Hyd vs Bangalore) and all of us know where things stand now. And about cost of livng.. The jobs created in newer places wont be the high end jobs.. High end jobs are not moving in a hurry.

But Bangalore should get its infra right. But i'm afraid it's GOVT wont wake up from the slumber without a rude shock

:wtf::wtf:

I think there is no limit to the nonsense news by the Northie channels. :bash:

I am not sure why you are calling IBN a ‘northie’ channel. Personally I don’t find any differentiation, it is all Indian channels. If not Malayalam channels, then for me it is only these English news channels and other Hindi channels like Sony, Star, Zoom, etc.

I don’t think there is any nonsense in what IBN said. Things don’t remain the same forever. The rise of Bangalore in the last decade was phenomenal and surprising due to the influx of IT/ITES. What surety is that it would not be replicated elsewhere, especially when those places score high in several parameters?

For a wealthy migrant, Bangalore or NCR wouldn’t make a difference. (And this survey is done among 800 top guys) NCR is also a nice region, esp Gurgaon. Infrastructure is far better in Delhi/NCR. The roads are the best in India. You can glide through most highways plus now both Gurgaon and Noida has metro connectivity. It has the same or more social infrastructure what you find in Bangalore, and is very cosmopolitan.

The climate factor may also not matter much to the elite, and it is only during the three summer months. A person from deep south say Kerala like me may prefer Bangalore since it is very closer to home For most north keralites, Bangalore would only be a 5-7 hours journey. It will be the same for those in TN and AP. But for rest of India, I don’t think it would matter much.

I am not sure how all migrants think. But what I undertand from my life in Bangalore is that they don’t have much attachment to a particular place. Here those whom I interact across the industry spectrum are all from diversified regions. Most will go to that place which gives him good money, standard of life and comforts, whether it is NCR or Bangalore.

Ok, I will take back the 'Northie' comment but I still stand by my opinion that NDTV and IBN are Northie channels and not fully national channels. ASSOCHAM did the survey and it was published even in local newspapers.

5 yrs ago no one talked about Pune...but in these 5 yrs, its Pune which has seen immense growth in IT as compared to Blr or Hyd or Chn. In the same way, NCR was doing good in ITES (BPO jobs) but I still don't see the 'headcount' for IT.

Of the 'mass employment' IT companies of India like TCS, CTS, Infy, Wipro and HCL, what is the % of headcount in NCR as compared to Blr, Hyd, Chn and Pun?

Because Gurgaon Infrastructure is pathetic even worst than Bangalore.Don't try to be over-defensive.
Infact most of projects are being shifted from Gurgoan to south cities.
Any proofs? I thought NCR had the best infra in India with massive flyovers, expressways, Metro...remember the several crores they spent on CWG? :lol:

Don't you guys do the same....???? aren't you the same people whining northies this northies that....wow....you feel that's ok....

I am sure if the very same channel would have stated that Bangalore or chennai rocks or are the financial capital....people would have been dancing without even complaining that's its a BLOODY NORTHIE thing....ehhh

double face??? or standards????

I ain't defending it...don't need to....we can see it happening here itself...800 ceo's have said it....why would I defend it..
Friend, why are you adding words like 'Bloody' and blowing this out of proportion? :ohno: The term 'Northie' that I meant here is similar to the 'Madrasi' term that you use on us.

At least we don't use 'Bihari' on Bihari pple or 'Chinki' on NE pple (this is a joke...don't take it seriously). :lol: By the way, am not saying this...programs like 'We the people' on your own channels say this. :)

The reason why we will not feel anything different when such news is said about Blr or Hyd or Chn or Pun is because that is a well known truth. About NCR, we are not seeing enough news or 'headcount' in IT to justify the claim on that survey.

Any proofs? I thought NCR had the best infra in India with massive flyovers, expressways, Metro...remember the several crores they spent on CWG? :lol:
Chennai has better infra than Noida.
Hyderabad than Gurgaon.
Face it, the only thing Gurgaon is known for is Malls.

^^ I am not commenting on that. I think MoD will respond to you. :)

Friend, why are you adding words like 'Bloody' and blowing this out of proportion? :ohno: The term 'Northie' that I meant here is similar to the 'Madrasi' term that you use on us.

At least we don't use 'Bihari' on Bihari pple or 'Chinki' on NE pple (this is a joke...don't take it seriously). :lol: By the way, am not saying this...programs like 'We the people' on your own channels say this. :)

The reason why we will not feel anything different when such news is said about Blr or Hyd or Chn or Pun is because that is a well known truth. About NCR, we are not seeing enough news or 'headcount' in IT to justify the claim on that survey.
+1 :cheers:
I would like to be called a Tamilian, or Indian. Not a dark Madrasi like Chetan Bhagat's in laws.
Thank you.

Face it, the only thing Gurgaon is known for is Malls.

What about DGE? The difference you will feel other than other Indian cities when you land in IGI and then hit on the DGE towards the office/corporte houses in Gurgaon. I would say it is more close to the developed world. Second would be the experience in Bangalore. Mumbai and Chennai will only follow.

Gurgaon do have the one of the largest stocks of occupied office complexes, by the largest real estate developer in India.

Apart from Malls, Gurgaon is getting nice hotels also. Same with large upscale residential complexes.

I think you are not aware about the 'Metro' connectivity too.

What about DGE? The difference you will feel other than other Indian cities when you land in IGI and then hit on the DGE towards the office/corporte houses in Gurgaon. I would say it is more close to the developed world. Second would be the experience in Bangalore. Mumbai and Chennai will only follow.

Gurgaon do have the one of the largest stocks of occupied office complexes, by the largest real estate developer in India.

Apart from Malls, Gurgaon is getting nice hotels also. Same with large upscale residential complexes.

I think you are not aware about the 'Metro' connectivity too.



+1 .....I don't think they have come to Gurgaon in recent past...

Sorry 24-yr-olds, you can’t drink anymore (http://www.mumbaimirror.com/article/2/201106022011060202443332032dd99a7/Sorry-24yrolds-you-can%E2%80%99t-drink-anymore.html)
On Wednesday the State increased the legal drinking age to 25, however you can continue to drink beer
Yogesh Naik
Posted On Thursday, June 02, 2011 at 02:44:18 AM

If you just turned 21, and were planning live it up with a bout of drinking, it's time to put the virgin back in your mojito.

Maharashtra, with its many breweries, its vineyards and healthy pub culture, has decided to revise the age limit for alcohol consumption. You have to be 25 before you can even get the first whiff of tipple.

At a cabinet meeting on Wednesday, there was a raging debate on the policy of de-addiction which proposed several curbs. However, the one aspect which saw a smooth passage was upward revision of the legal drinking age from 21 to 25 years.
Mumbai becoming unfriendly to young.. Cant believe progressive party like congress doing this when conservative bjp is out of power there

Why is drinking considered progressive anyway? It's regressive if anything.

^^ It is about freedom. Individual choice of an adult to drink or not to drink.

Why not give other 'freedoms' then? "Freedom" to take other drugs and narcotics, or 'freedom' to drive on the wrong side of the road? Alcohol is a harmful drug that causes dependence. No reason to treat it differently from any other drug, no matter what the "Cool" advertisements on TV try to tell you.

You're better off smoking Cannabis or something. Far less harmful than alcohol :lol:

^^ Alcohol doesnt kill you on overdose nor it maims you like other drugs. Max you will sleep roadside :lol: Give up already.

Yagu has been painfully boring in this thread. Why don't you post some pics of Bengaluria instead, Yagu ?

yagu cant digest the fact that people know what Bimaru is.

for him indian people are so dumb they dont know their head from their ass

^^

Alcohol 'more harmful than heroin' says Prof David Nutt

Alcohol is more harmful than heroin or crack when the overall dangers to the individual and society are considered, according to a study in the Lancet.

BBC Article: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11660210

Original study in the Lancet: http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2810%2961462-6/fulltext

^^ No point arguing a proven thing, let's not reinvent the wheel.
"Who does not love wine wife and song, will be a fool for his lifelong!" — a vigorous 1873 assertion of cultural values of German-American immigrants.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_in_the_United_States


They only banned hard drinks like whiskey vodka, not beer and wine for 21-25 year olds. This is just another vague law for police to make money, nothing more.

Wow. What a strong rebuttal. I'm shocked (not really, considering the usual quality of your posts)

Gentem

Beer is not banned.

As per present norms, the minimum age to consume beer and liquor is 21 years. The age for consuming beer, however, remains unchanged



Spirits and Wine are..


and in any case it will not be enforced. How the hell are they even going to enforce it? goto every bar and table to table and say are you 25 plus?

Most young in mumbai have made the shift from spirits to beer anyways

That Assocham survey is a very poorly designed survey with loaded questions.

It had forcefully asked the respondents to choose one among the 5 cities (absence of Mumbai, Chennai and Kolkata is puzzling). Isnt it surprising all the 100 percent wanted to move.

IMO, it is very difficult to take away the No 1 spot from Bangalore, though the gap (in percentage terms) is narrowing down over the years. It is also imperative because a single city cannot hold a majorpie whn themarket is growing at double digits.
Well said,

What Bangalore Realy losing is typical 'IT Service' Business to other cities which create lot many jobs.

But Bangalore still has its major dominance in R & D, ELectronics, Hardware & Networking, Semiconductors chips, Games/3D, Aerospace, Space research and all other forms of Technology including Advanced Nanotechnology , Robotics etc

Gentem

Beer is not banned.




Spirits and Wine are..


and in any case it will not be enforced. How the hell are they even going to enforce it? goto every bar and table to table and say are you 25 plus?

Most young in mumbai have made the shift from spirits to beer anyways

Ya i edited my last comment to that. I think beer wine and breezer are considered soft-hard-drinks :lol: Whatever we should make sure such restrictions of freedoms dont spread southward from maharastra :ohno:

Marathaman better we dont get personal here.

Well said,

What Bangalore Realy losing is typical 'IT Service' Business to other cities.

But Bangalore has its major dominance in R & D, ELectronics, Hardware & Networking, Semiconductors chips, Games/3D, Aerospace, Space research and all other forms of Technology including Advanced Nanotechnology , Robotics etc

Big IT players still swear by Bangalore


Bangalore still rules, at least that’s what reactions to industry body Assocham’s survey on Bangalore losing its ‘IT capital’ tag to Gurgaon and Noida seem to suggest. While most of these reactions come from Garden City firms, IT industry players that Financial Chronicle spoke to said that for tech companies, Bangalore still remains as preferred destination for various reasons, even though Gurgaon has evolved as a hub for BPO companies.

The Assocham survey results, made public earlier this week, has got attention even from Karnataka chief minister BS Yeddyurappa who said the state government would not allow Bangalore to loose its IT status and will address all the concerns of the industry.

The survey was prepared after interaction with around 800 directors, CEOs, CFOs, chairmen and managing directors of Indian and multinational companies in various verticals with a choice of five cities to relocate their businesses to garner more revenues.

According to Kris Gopalakrishnan, who is due to become executive co-chairman of Infosys, Bangalore is still the leading IT city and it is common for a fast growth city to face some problems.

“Based on data, Bangalore continues to be number one. Number of employees working in the industry, total output and exports from the city, and number of multinational companies present in Bangalore show that this is true. Every city or region has some problem or other due to the fast growth of our urban centres. We must proactively address them so that the quality of life of the citizen improves over time in all our urban centers,” he said.

Assocham report said that Bangalore is losing its sheen due to crumbling infrastructure, compelling many companies to head towards more convenient and industrial-friendly centres.

But Ashok Soota, MindTree co-founder who started his own company Happiest Minds recently, said Bangalore has succeeded despite poor infrastructure and will stay ahead of Gurgaon.

Many agree that in terms of BPO friendliness, Gurgaon scores over Bangalore. Suresh Rao, group CFO, Mindteck, said, “This could be true with the BPO enterprises, as availability of right skills is not a limitation in the NCR region, plus, pressure on their profits due to lesser billing rates; but technology companies would still prefer to operate from Bangalore for reasons of skill availability.”

Many outside Bangalore feel that if Bangalore-based IT and ITES firms were to expand in Gurgaon, that would be a smart move.

“There is no difference in any case here also (in Gurgaon — about traffic chaos, power and water supply) because of the centre of gravity in Gurgaon. But, having said that if companies from Bangalore want to expand their presence here, it is a good call,” Pramod Bhasin, founder, Genpact, a global leader in business process and technology management.

Others believe that in terms of the so-called ‘poor’ infrastructure in Bangalore, the end is near even though Gurgaon is better when it comes to integration.


http://www.mydigitalfc.com/it/big-it-players-still-swear-bangalore-758

Thanks for reminding about KP Muthu. I don't see him at all nowadays. But his sig was epic :lol:

I think it went something like

"Namma Bengaluru is Garden City/IT City/Education City/Best City in the world ! We cannot live in dirty and filthy conditions, that's why Namma Bengaluru is cleanest city"
Just a pointer. I'm a born Chennaiite and brought up Mumbaikar ...
Not Bangalroean in any way.
And I never said Bangalore is good. I merely said it is better than Delhi.. Mannerless city, no doubt but more mannered than Delhi ...

Gentem are you Vijay Mallya's PR Man? Do you love to see his grand edifice to the worship of alcohol every morning? :lol:

Hi Guys, Could someone tell me how much time would it take (in a car) during peak hours from 'Deve Gowda Petrol Bunk' to 'Hebbal Flyover' using the shortest route?

I just need an approximation. I am joining a company out there (Manyata Buiz Park.. off Ring Road)

Thanks!

Is there a petrol bunk named after Deve Gowda?? WTH???

In this entire conversation, not even a single post by a "Bangalorean" :ohno: :bash:

+1.

^Yes sir, Tragic yet true :| Well I am referring to BSK Stage 3 where I stay. This junction on the ring road has a petrol bunk at the corner.

If anyone has any idea how much time it'd take pls let me know.

Hi Guys, Could someone tell me how much time would it take (in a car) during peak hours from 'Deve Gowda Petrol Bunk' to 'Hebbal Flyover' using the shortest route?

I just need an approximation. I am joining a company out there (Manyata Buiz Park.. off Ring Road)

Thanks!
Hi HariBharadwaj,

There are lot many construction(flyovers/metro) happaning in your way. Hopefully completed by the end of 2012.
But at present u would need atleast 1.5-2hr at peak hours.

Is there a petrol bunk named after Deve Gowda?? WTH???


Yes, Devegowda owns number of petrol bunks in Bangalore and in Hassan.

Is there a petrol bunk named after Deve Gowda?? WTH???

His house is near by, and ppl 'say' he has stakes in that petrol bunk. Hence its popular by name DG Petrol bunk.

+1.

+2 :lol:

Sorry 24-yr-olds, you can’t drink anymore (http://www.mumbaimirror.com/article/2/201106022011060202443332032dd99a7/Sorry-24yrolds-you-can%E2%80%99t-drink-anymore.html)
On Wednesday the State increased the legal drinking age to 25, however you can continue to drink beer
Yogesh Naik
Posted On Thursday, June 02, 2011 at 02:44:18 AM


Mumbai becoming unfriendly to young.. Cant believe progressive party like congress doing this when conservative bjp is out of power there

Hmmm. Very retrograde step. This news is there today in Times of India Bangalore edition.

It is all about freedom of an adult.

Alcohol is harmless if used judiciously. Anyway safer than even smoking.

It is also funny to see the ‘permit’ needed for the individuals also in Maharashtra. Also it stipulates the amount to be sold to an individual per week to a permit holder, 750 ml!!

His house is near by, and ppl 'say' he has stakes in that petrol bunk. Hence its popular by name DG Petrol bunk.
BMTC map shows bus stops by that name.
Hi Guys, Could someone tell me how much time would it take (in a car) during peak hours from 'Deve Gowda Petrol Bunk' to 'Hebbal Flyover' using the shortest route?

I just need an approximation. I am joining a company out there (Manyata Buiz Park.. off Ring Road)

Thanks!

Right now:
Chenamma Circle [DG PP] to nayandahalli - 45mins.
Nayandahalli to Kanteerva Studio: 30 mins
kanteerva Studio to Hebbal - 50 mins.
Hebbal flyover to Manyata Tech park - 10 mins.

nandan_ks View Post
In this entire conversation, not even a single post by a "Bangalorean"
I'm a Bangalorean by residence.
But not for long though.

@ Harish-

Incase you want root details between places and approx distance, just sms
to this number-9008890088. Its free of cost. :)

For ex type, Devegowda petrol bunk to Hebbal flyover.

You will get the approx distance, approx auto fare and detailed root.

@ Harish-

Incase you want root details between places and approx distance, just sms
to this number-9008890088. Its free of cost. :)

For ex type, Devegowda petrol bunk to Hebbal flyover.

You will get the approx distance, approx auto fare and detailed root.
Thank you bhai.
It will come handy now.
Where did I put my phone?

Alcohol is harmless if used judiciously. Anyway safer than even smoking.

So is heroin actually. But that doesn't matter since both cause dependence, and the concept of "freedom" goes for a six when your mind is incapable of making a rational decision.

Thank you bhai.
It will come handy now.


Welcome.:)

Just a pointer. I'm a born Chennaiite and brought up Mumbaikar ...
Not Bangalroean in any way.
And I never said Bangalore is good. I merely said it is better than Delhi.. Mannerless city, no doubt but more mannered than Delhi ...

Why you telling me ya ? I don't have any problem wonly.:dunno:

Actually the prevelance of many alcohol shops along OMR near chennai has been causing a menace for IT professionals ...regularly drunkards are harrasing girls and theft have increased a lot too....

So is heroin actually. But that doesn't matter since both cause dependence, and the concept of "freedom" goes for a six when your mind is incapable of making a rational decision.

Need not be dependable on alcohol. Even if consume, it doesn’t mean that your consumption will increase and you will become an addict. What I have seen is that wherever there is a ‘limitation’ or ‘control’, the consumption/addiction is more.

I am not sure about Narcotics, but have heard is that once you consume more, it is difficult to get out of it.

I tasted alcohol in 1991 or so. Since in Kerala, the start was with hard drinks, like Rum. Only during recent years, I have been switching over to more wine and beer. My consumption has really come down these recent years when compared with earlier times. So I do not agree with the theory that ‘mind will be incapable of making a decision’. It has never happened to me during the last 20 years.

These days as I have resumed by daily one hour work out, my wife is not permitting to me to drink beer as I have to get rid of my beer belly. Last week quota was only 500ml beer. I will resume beer once I get in to more shape, till that time it is only wine and spirits during weekends.

@Marathaman, world would have been a much worse place if alcohol were not there, with high crime rates and depressions. Cheers :cheers:


Big IT players still swear by Bangalore

http://www.mydigitalfc.com/it/big-it-players-still-swear-bangalore-758

^^ Article clearly says Gurgaon = BPO and Bangalore = IT. That is because cheap labor and maintainance and nothing else. Maybe IT services are spreading out to chennai, hyd and pun, but not to Gurgaon.

But Gurgaon has many financial services offices which were snatched from mumbai, not from bangalore :cheers:

Cant even compare:

INFRASTRUCTURE, AN ISSUE IN BANGALORE
‘Can’t compare city with Gurgaon in IT’ (http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/Scripting/ArticleWin.asp?From=Archive&Source=Page&Skin=TOINEW&BaseHref=TOIBG/2011/06/02&PageLabel=17&EntityId=Ar01702&ViewMode=HTML)
Mini Joseph Tejaswi TNN

Bangalore: Every now and then the question is asked whether Bangalore is losing its attractiveness for technology investments to other cities in India. This has been so for some years, and once again now the question has popped up, thanks to a poll conducted by Assocham (Associated Chambers of Commerce and Industry of India).

The poll, which was conducted among 800 CXOs of domestic and multinational companies, found that 30% of Bangalorebased CXOs would want to shift their business to Gurgaon, while 25% would opt for Noida or Greater Noida. Over 20% of the respondents said they would want to go to Chandigarh.

Assocham’s conclusion: “Bangalore may lose its crown of India’s Tech Eden to Gurgaon and Noida in the national capital region which are steadily becoming preferred destinations for companies offering IT, ITeS, BPO, BTO and KPO services.

The chamber’s secretary general D S Rawat said, “Bangalore’s roads are choked with vehicles, frequent power outages, erratic water supply and poor sanitation are tough problems on account of which Bangalore is losing its lustre to rapidly-developing Gurgaon and Noida.” He added that Gurgaon's cosmopolitan culture, modern infrastructure, availability of skilled workforce, proximity to Delhi along with industry-friendly government policies gave it an edge over Bangalore.

Few would argue with Rawat’s description of Bangalore, but several industry leaders that TOI spoke to were far from convinced by Assocham’s conclusion that the city could lose its tech crown to the Delhi neighbourhoods.

Kris Gopalakrishnan, CEO of Infosys Technologies, said data did not prove that Bangalore was losing its sheen. “It’s the single largest IT hub, and the city still houses 35% of the country's tech workforce. Ask MNCs, they would say they want to be in Bangalore.” He said each city had its own challenges, including problems of infrastructure. He further pointed out that Bangalore, which has a high concentration of IT/ITeS companies, could not be compared with Gurgaon and Noida that have multiple industries.

Deepak Patel, CEO of Aditya Birla Minacs, said that in the last 12 years, Bangalore had become a mature IT market, and the rate of growth had reduced now because of its huge base. He says what has changed for Bangalore is the mix of work done here. “The city focuses mostly on high-end functions while low end work has been moving to tier 2/3 locations.''

However, Assocham’s view found some support from Russel Smith, chairman of SDD Global Solutions, a legal process outsourcing firm.

Bangalore, he said, attracted very few startup firms or new entrants from other parts of the world. “Bangalore’s infrastructure is still a big issue and traffic snarls are terrible. Young professionals in Bangalore tell me their entire social life is in their carpool to and from work. There's no time left for much else.”

Smith said the attractions of smaller cities such as Mysore were considerable and growing. “The lower cost of living and operating, plus lower levels of pollution and higher levels of beauty, are leading companies to tier-2 cities."

http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Repository/getimage.dll?path=TOIBG/2011/06/02/17/Img/Pc0171600.jpg

I'm a Bangalorean by residence.
But not for long though.

Thats the reason I quoted the word "Bangalorean"

Gurgoan have good number of R&D companies and Sales & marketing devisions of many Global gaints including Google,Microsoft,Oracle,SAP..
It major lacks in infra similar to bangalore.

I think its enough to discussion on these please.

anyways we already have a New Gurgoan in North Bangalore,New Electronic City in Bidadi and new Hi-tech City in Sarjapur .Anyways my frds working in TCS said TCS has started work on 100 acre Campus in Devanahalli near Jain Temple which will accommodate 1 lakh plus Employees making it TCS largest Campus in India:drunk::cheers1:

By S Ronendra Singh, N Vasudevan Jun 01 2011 , Bangalore/New Delhi
Tags: IT
Bangalore still rules, at least that’s what reactions to industry body Assocham’s survey on Bangalore losing its ‘IT capital’ tag to Gurgaon and Noida seem to suggest. While most of these reactions come from Garden City firms, IT industry players that Financial Chronicle spoke to said that for tech companies, Bangalore still remains as preferred destination for various reasons, even though Gurgaon has evolved as a hub for BPO companies.

The Assocham survey results, made public earlier this week, has got attention even from Karnataka chief minister BS Yeddyurappa who said the state government would not allow Bangalore to loose its IT status and will address all the concerns of the industry.

The survey was prepared after interaction with around 800 directors, CEOs, CFOs, chairmen and managing directors of Indian and multinational companies in various verticals with a choice of five cities to relocate their businesses to garner more revenues.

According to Kris Gopalakrishnan, who is due to become executive co-chairman of Infosys, Bangalore is still the leading IT city and it is common for a fast growth city to face some problems.

“Based on data, Bangalore continues to be number one. Number of employees working in the industry, total output and exports from the city, and number of multinational companies present in Bangalore show that this is true. Every city or region has some problem or other due to the fast growth of our urban centres. We must proactively address them so that the quality of life of the citizen improves over time in all our urban centers,” he said.

Assocham report said that Bangalore is losing its sheen due to crumbling infrastructure, compelling many companies to head towards more convenient and industrial-friendly centres.

But Ashok Soota, MindTree co-founder who started his own company Happiest Minds recently, said Bangalore has succeeded despite poor infrastructure and will stay ahead of Gurgaon.

Many agree that in terms of BPO friendliness, Gurgaon scores over Bangalore. Suresh Rao, group CFO, Mindteck, said, “This could be true with the BPO enterprises, as availability of right skills is not a limitation in the NCR region, plus, pressure on their profits due to lesser billing rates; but technology companies would still prefer to operate from Bangalore for reasons of skill availability.”

Many outside Bangalore feel that if Bangalore-based IT and ITES firms were to expand in Gurgaon, that would be a smart move.

“There is no difference in any case here also (in Gurgaon — about traffic chaos, power and water supply) because of the centre of gravity in Gurgaon. But, having said that if companies from Bangalore want to expand their presence here, it is a good call,” Pramod Bhasin, founder, Genpact, a global leader in business process and technology management.

Others believe that in terms of the so-called ‘poor’ infrastructure in Bangalore, the end is near even though Gurgaon is better when it comes to integration.
http://www.mydigitalfc.com/it/big-it-players-still-swear-bangalore-758

anyways we already have a New Gurgoan in North Bangalore,New Electronic City in Bidadi and new Hi-tech City in Sarjapur .Anyways my frds working in TCS said TCS has started work on 100 acre Campus in Devanahalli near Jain Temple which will accommodate 1 lakh plus Employees making it TCS largest Campus in India:drunk::cheers1:
If TCS already started 100 acre campus,Then it could have been a big news.
We can't believe on 'anthe-conthe' news.

and Also No campus can fit 1 lakh employees. Max can reach 25K peoples & atlease another 20 years to fill.

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/bangalore-to-lose-the-it-capital-tag-survey/155544-11.html

The Article mentions "This would include IT, IT-enabled services (ITes), business process outsourcing (BPO), knowledge process outsourcing (KPO) and other areas of operations. "

I think they meant to say in combined fields IT + BPO + KPO Gurgaon can overtake Bangalore . I don't think in IT alone it can overtake. As per my knowledge Gurgaon and Mumbai are already ahead than Bangalore in BPO but not IT. Currently even Chennai, Hydrabad, Pune are ahead in IT than Gurgaon. This is after reading so many surveys in many newspapers etc. And I belong to IT industry...

Yes, I agree with IBN

Monsoon keeps its date with Bangalore


The south-west monsoon set over the state on Thursday as heavy rainfall accompanied by gusty winds, lashed coastal areas of the state and several places in interior Karnataka.

With surface winds expected to touch a speed 45 km to 55 kmph later in the evening, the Met department promptly issued a warning to the fishermen in the coastal districts to keep off the sea for the next 48 hours.

Rain and thundershowers have been forecast in Bangalore over the next 24 hours. Temperatures dipped in the city by five to seven degrees from normal after Wednesday night. With strong winds and black clouds ruling the roost, weatherman predicted a stormy Friday in the state capital.

Kurugodu in Bellary district received 15 cm rainfall till afternoon on Wednesday. Tumkur received 12 cm of rainfall, while Kartagi in Koppal district, Kottur in Bellary district and Raichur received 11, 10 and 9 cm of rainfall, respectively.

The Met department has predicted a rainfall varying from 7 to 12 cm in swathes of interior Karnataka during the next 24 hours. However, the forecast for the seven districts along the coast and in the Western Ghats said that the rainfall could vary between 13 cm and 20 cm.

Strong onshore winds from the westerly side is expected to blow at 45 to 55 kmph, which is why the weather officials have already warned fishermen to go to sea during the next 48 hours.

B Putttana, director, Indian Meteorological Department, Karnataka, said, “Monsoon has officially set over Karnataka on June 2. We have announced warnings for fisherman in the coastal districts of Karnataka as the winds could get stronger. Even for the interior districts, the rainfall would be heavy with thunderstorms at isolated places during the next 24 hours.”

Puttanna said during the morning hours of Wednesday, the south-west monsoon winds were vigorous in interior Karnataka. Vigorous winds mean winds blowing at four times the normal speed.

“Monsoon is going to be 98% across the nation during the four months from July to October. But south-interior Karnataka could see heavy showers in June and then in October, which could include heavy rainfall and gustier winds. For the remaining four months, the rainfall is likely to be normal,” he said.


http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_monsoon-keeps-its-date-with-bangalore_1550600

^^No rain today, but was cool throughout the day. Was sitting in Karnataka Hockey Association Club, sipping whisky with colleagues this evening/night, it started drizzling by 9.30 PM, thats all. Still no real rain.

^^ Now we know why India is not good at hockey! :lol:

^^ Now we know why India is not good at hockey! :lol:

:righton:

^^ Now we know why India is not good at hockey! :lol:

Yaar, who plays Hockey on a weekend night?:cheers:

Anyway all such clubs are venues for socializing, partying and boozing also, in any city apart from being the main promoting body for the respective game. It is also very difficult to get a membership also which would be having long waiting lists.

Poured, Poured and Poured in South bangalore ...

‘Non-Kannadigas will have to learn the language in a year’

Kannada Development Authority submitted its recommendations to the state government on Monday

Bangalore Mirror Bureau

Posted On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 at 12:04:48 AM


MLC ‘Mukhyamantri’ Chandru heads the Kannada Development Authority

If you are new to Bangalore and dreaming of settling down here, you will have to pass the Std VII exam in less than one year and prove that you can read and write Kannada.

The Kannada Development Authority (KDA) has recommended that the state government bring out a legislation to get non-Kannadigas in Karnataka to clear the basic Kannada examinations. The KDA, headed by MLC ‘Mukhyamantri’ Chandru, submitted its recommendations to the state government on Monday.

Chandru explained, “With several IT companies and MNCs coming to Karnataka, lakhs of non-Kannadigas have settled in the state. If they could live with the land, water, air and other resources of the land, they should also understand the culture, history and language of the land.

“Hence, we have recommended that learning Kannada be made mandatory. All non-Kannadigas who have been living in Karnataka have to learn Kannada and clear at least the Std VII Kannada exam in one year’s time.

“Besides, the government should arrange for online Kannada learning centres to reach out to the tech population among non-Kannadigas.”

The KDA has also recommended takeover of all palm scriptures currently possessed by various citizens and declare them as government property.

This apart, the KDA wants the state government to direct all telecom service providers in Karnataka to use Kannada software in mobile phones.

Chief minister B S Yeddyurappa said, “All the recommendations would further develop the language. The government will implement the recommendations on priority basis at the earliest.”

Source: http://www.bangaloremirror.com/index.aspx?page=article&sectid=10&contentid=201106072011060700050557789635d05&title=%E2%80%98NonKannadigas-will-have-to-learn-the-language-in-a-year%E2%80%99


My friends working/to-work in Bangalore are peeved. I personally don't mind. Anyway my plans have changed, I don't have to work in Bangalore.

Good Idea. I like Canada

Isn't this a little overboard?? Come on.. Bangalore is a cosmopolitan city, for cryin out loud...

Relax guys, many such recommendations were made before and they are still recommendations.

Its difficult to implement all these. But I wish, the outsiders learn and respect the local culture and language if they intend to stay for long here.

Relax guys, many such recommendations were made before and they are still recommendations.

Its difficult to implement all these. But I wish, the outsiders learn and respect the local culture and language if they intend to stay for long here.

Yesh.:yes:

Whereever I have lived, I have aleways respected local culture and language.

The local culture in the most of the urban centers is same. Guys do same thing. I have learnt all the bad words possible in local language with full honesty. I even made a Telugu remix song

Relax guys, many such recommendations were made before and they are still recommendations.

Its difficult to implement all these. But I wish, the outsiders learn and respect the local culture and language if they intend to stay for long here.

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Relax guys, many such recommendations were made before and they are still recommendations.

Its difficult to implement all these. But I wish, the outsiders learn and respect the local culture and language if they intend to stay for long here.

But the ground reality is that majority of outsiders dont learn kannada however long they stay in bangalore. But their children are compulsarily taught kannada in school from 5th standard to 10th.

Relax guys, many such recommendations were made before and they are still recommendations.

Its difficult to implement all these. But I wish, the outsiders learn and respect the local culture and language if they intend to stay for long here.
ANYbody will learn and repsect local culture provided they are given their own time to do so.
If you force me to learn the language like I was, I'll start hating it.
Human nature.

ANYbody will learn and repsect local culture provided they are given their own time to do so.
If you force me to learn the language like I was, I'll start hating it.
Human nature.
It’s all depends on individual interest.

It's the nature our people to learn/respect other's languages/culture even in our own land.
Sometime this is misused by few peoples of certain category. As a result these kind of recommendation.

No one wants to decay their language in own land.

ANYbody will learn and repsect local culture provided they are given their own time to do so.
If you force me to learn the language like I was, I'll start hating it.
Human nature.

True...

Bangalore: Bangalore used to be the IT hub in India, but according to a survey by Associated Chambers of Commerce and Industry of India (Assocham), Gurgaon and Noida are now becoming the preferred location for IT companies.
Bangalore is no more the favorite for IT


Many IT companies are more interested on making up their IT offices in Noida and Gurgaon. The offices include IT, IT-enabled services (ITes), business process outsourcing (BPO)and knowledge process outsourcing (KPO).

For the survey, ASSOCHAM interacted with around 800 directors, CEOs, CFOs, Chairmen and MDs of Indian and multinational companies about the choice of five cities to relocate their businesses. 30 percent top-ranked officials of IT companies of Bangalore said they prefer to shift their business to Gurgaon. 25 percent said that they would prefer to shift their businesses to Noida or Greater Noida. About 20 percent said that they would prefer Chandigarh for their business. 15 percent of respondents said they prefer Pune. The remaining 10 percent prefer to relocate their business to Hyderabad.
http://www.siliconindia.com/news/newsimages/it.jpg
The survey shows that Bangalore is losing its charm because of various reasons like crumbling infrastructure, compelling many companies to head towards more convenient and industrial-friendly centres. Moreover, there are many other reasons like narrow roads, pollution, and rising costs of goods and services , poor infrastructure and problems of power shortages.
http://www.siliconindia.com/shownews/Bangalore_is_no_more_the_favorite_for_IT-nid-84353.html?utm_campaign=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=Subscriber

Oh no, not again Avi ... this was posted some days back and created a ruckus and it needed Mods to clean up the thread.

^ Hahahahahahahaha.....I am ready..hehe

Bhai kyun apna waqt barbaad karne mein thula hain :bash:, time hain tho F1 Track mein gaddi chalaake maje karna :cheers:

Who cares if bangalore is no longer the IT capital or not?
It's still our home, and that's that.

Guys watch this video, Meaningfull song.
Tags: Old Bangalore , Kamal Hasan ,Double-decker bus ,Kannada.

-wwNFuv1iqs

I think we have no reason to worry at all. After all Bangalore is definitely going through a BT revolution. Manufacturing seems to be coming in a big way too. So I guess there's always something to keep the people employed and happy.

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I think we have no reason to worry at all. After all Bangalore is definitely going through a BT revolution. Manufacturing seems to be coming in a big way too. So I guess there's always something to keep the people employed and happy.

IT can go to hyd, chen or pun due to geographical proximity to bangalore. But never to NCR delhi as it is too far from bangalore. Only HCL has big presence there. And we dont want big manufacturing like maruti hyundai tata etc.

^^ Ok chacha dafa hoja ab....people need special skills to understand your logic...ehhh

IT can go to hyd, chen or pun due to geographical proximity to bangalore. But never to NCR delhi as it is too far from bangalore. Only HCL has big presence there. And we dont want big manufacturing like maruti hyundai tata etc.

Yeah, we have Volvo ....
They have Infosys, TCS.

^^ Ok chacha dafa hoja ab....people need special skills to understand your logic...ehhh
Don't insult the word logic.

A blog on MG Road, just before the Metro works started (http://memoirsofsheela.blogspot.com/2007/05/what-do-you-call-congenial-captivating.html)

Few good pics in there aswell

A blog on MG Road, just before the Metro works started (http://memoirsofsheela.blogspot.com/2007/05/what-do-you-call-congenial-captivating.html)

Few good pics in there aswell

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bqWcIwfp8p0/Rl3T7gfsEaI/AAAAAAAABVE/pt3Ro8U1nY0/s1600/DSC00557.JPG

But i dont think all these trees on the side are axed. I will verify it again when i go there next time. Only those at curve and station are axed.

Another retro bangalore video .. the sparse traffic on the streets looks like special effects.

Arp41KUk4Z0

Various Self Help Groups and Small Scale Industries have women employees in the city. This has increased the population of women entrepreneurs in Bangalore.
Known as the Electronic City or the Silicon Valley, Bangalore now has the largest number of women entrepreneurs in the country. To encourage women entrepreneurship in the city, the government is working on several women friendly policies enabling a congenial environment not only for the development of the industries but also for the small scale entrepreneurs to help them grow and prosper.

The government has joined hands with various banks to enable several Self Help Groups (SHG’s) mostly run by women to be upgraded to small business ventures. The Twelfth Commonwealth, India Small Business Competitiveness Development Program was an event organized in honour of the women entrepreneurs in the city this Sunday. The theme of the program was ‘Women Agents of Change in Enterprise Development and Export Competitiveness’. The event saw initiatives for the prosperity of women entrepreneurs in Bangalore. The initiatives had the collaboration of various banks in the city like Central Bank of India, Corporation Bank and Import Export Bank of India.

The event also saw reports on women entrepreneurship development. These reports were prepared by the EXIM Bank on the Indian Industry Driven by Women.

http://www.mybangalore.com/article/0511/bangalore-tops-in-women-entrepreneurship.html

Siemens is now in talks with developers Hiranandani Upscale and Nitesh Estates after its proposed sale of an eight-acre factory land in Bangalore to RMZ Corp missed deadline, said sources close to the development. The Indian unit of the German engineering giant was scheduled to offload the asset in a Rs.410 crore deal with RMZ on or before March 31.

According to Sources Siemens has called on Hiranandani and Nitesh Estates for fresh discussions even as RMZ Corp sought for more time. RMZ MD Raj Menda said his firm still had an agreement in place with Siemens and the latter could not talk to new suitors at the moment.

A Siemens spokesperson denied the company has entered into sale contract with any developer on divestment of the factory land located in south Bangalore. “We have received bids from several parties and are evaluating it. Beyond this, we will not comment on market speculation,” the spokesperson added.

It is believed RMZ wanted more time to complete the transaction saying that the land in question had unresolved notification and FSI issues. However, Siemens preferred to offload the asset without further delay. Siemens has been offloading some of its real estates assets in Mumbai, Bangalore and Pune as part of its value optimization strategy.

It is not clear whether Hiranandani and Nitesh would match the price offered by RMZ or whether Siemens would be open to divesting the land at a lower price in the wake of the latest developments. In February, Siemens India shares perked up following media reports that the company had clinched a deal with RMZ as part of the real estate value unlocking move. On Wednesday, the Siemens stock ended 5.60% up at Rs.888. Siemens got the eight-acre land in Koramangla of Bangalore following the merger of Siemens VDO Automotive with itself in 2005.
http://www.track2realty.com/siemens-in-talks-with-nitesh-hiranandani-for-land-sell

How Gurgaon is both a model and dysfunctional city (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/gurgaon/How-Gurgaon-is-both-a-model-and-dysfunctional-city/articleshow/8786572.cms)
New York Times | Jun 9, 2011, 12.48pm IST
GURGAON: In this city that barely existed two decades ago, there are 26 shopping malls, seven golf courses and luxury shops selling Chanel and Louis Vuitton. Mercedes-Benzes and BMWs shimmer in automobile showrooms. Apartment towers are sprouting like concrete weeds, and a futuristic commercial hub called Cyber City houses many of the world's most respected corporations.

Gurgaon, located about 15 miles south of the national capital, New Delhi, would seem to have everything, except consider what it does not have: a functioning citywide sewer or drainage system; reliable electricity or water; and public sidewalks, adequate parking, decent roads or any citywide system of public transportation. Garbage is still regularly tossed in empty lots by the side of the road.

Gurgaon is one of India's fastest-growing districts, having expanded more than 70 percent during the past decade to more than 1.5 million people, larger than most US cities. It accounts for almost half of all revenues for its state, Haryana, and added 50,000 vehicles to the roads last year alone. Real estate values have risen sharply in a city that has become a roaring engine of growth, if also a colossal headache as a place to live and work.
Best description of Gurgaon infra.. Only advantage is delhi airport is closeby

Really....Isn't this rubbish..it's published in a NORTHIE MEDIA /PAPER..hahaha

Anyways, Gurgaon is getting sewers fixed..Metro & POD Taxis and Volvo Buses in the system...Better roads are getting laid and so is the landscaping....

It also, mentions that Gurgaon is growing higher and higher in stature ..sort of..

Highlight them as well dumbo...

GURGAON: In this city that barely existed two decades ago, there are 26 shopping malls, seven golf courses and luxury shops selling Chanel and Louis Vuitton. Mercedes-Benzes and BMWs shimmer in automobile showrooms. Apartment towers are sprouting like concrete weeds, and a futuristic commercial hub called Cyber City houses many of the world's most respected corporations.

^^ This too is a very important remark...probably the best one...Highlight this as well...

Really....Isn't this rubbish..hahaha

Anyways, Gurgaon is getting sewers fixed..Metro & POD Taxis and Volvo Buses in the system...Better roads are getting laid and so is the landscaping....

It also, mentions that Gurgaon is growing higher and higher in stature ..sort of..

Highlight them as well dumbo...
Dude... You're talking to THE gentem ... :lol:
And Bangalore is getting Sewers screwed...

^^ Hehehehe

^^ This too is a very important remark...probably the best one...Highlight this as well...

I highlighted that it contributes half the revenue of the state despite being non-capital city. Haryana is a rich state since long but still hard to beleive gurgaon contributes half the revenue. They should start decent semi-low-floor bus service there. Gurgaon is not really "a city that dint exist 20 years ago", but a satellite town of delhi, like a happening suburb like whitefield in bangalore.

Bataya na..that Gurgaon will be introducing public buses.......metro's & Pod Taxis...

I highlighted that it contributes half the revenue of the state despite being non-capital city. Haryana is a rich state since long but still hard to beleive gurgaon contributes half the revenue. They should start decent semi-low-floor bus service there. Gurgaon is not really "a city that dint exist 20 years ago", but a satellite town of delhi, like a happening suburb like whitefield in bangalore.
Hey Gentem, people are missing you on the facebook community.
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Hmm...
Err.. SLFs exist in a lot of cities..
Bombay got the Starbuses back in 2003-4. Madras, bangalore, Pune, Hyderabad, everyone has it..

Hey Gentem, people are missing you on the facebook community.
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All of you are invited to join this page, and thus attain happiness and and a feeling of fulfillment in life. :)

All of you are invited to join this page, and thus attain happiness and and a feeling of fulfillment in life. :)
:lol: Good one re.

BANGALORE: All the five southern States, which participated in the southern regional consultation held by the Planning Commission here on the approaches to the 12th Five Year Plan, were united in demanding flexibility in implementation of Central schemes.

They got a shot in the arm with Planning Commission Deputy Chairman Montek Singh Ahluwalia immediately endorsing the demand.

“The commission's view is also that the Central schemes should be more flexible in terms of implementation. Too much of micro-management by the Centre in the implementation of schemes is a wrong thing,” he told presspersons after the inaugural session of the two-day consultation, adding that States could give specific instances of such micro management.

‘Too many conditions'

Meanwhile, participating at the regional consultation, Chief Minister B.S. Yeddyurappa stated that Central assistance came compartmentalised and with too many conditions.

Listing the JNNURM, AIBP, RKVY schemes as examples of scheme-specific Central assistance being given with conditions, he said this would come in the way of planning as per the local needs.

Pointing out that some power generation projects were in a limbo for want of coal linkage, he suggested that the first priority in allotment of coal blocks should be given to power projects.

Stating that the growth targets set for the 12th Plan period may not be achieved by the State if the power projects did not come up at the scheduled time, he sought the Planning Commission's intervention to ensure that Karnataka got timely allocation of coal and gas, besides environmental clearance for power projects.

He also suggested that the Centre reclassify all the State highways, which have been upgraded to national highway standards by the States themselves, as national highways.

Commuter Rail Project

With reference to Bangalore, Mr. Yeddyurappa said the Railways should take up Commuter Rail Project in partnership with the State Government on a cost-sharing basis.

The project would provide connectivity on the north-south and east-west access of existing surface rail lanes in Bangalore, he said.

He suggested that cities like Bangalore, which have built “brand India” globally through information technology should be given Central assistance for infrastructure development as they had made their own investments on infrastructure to support IT growth.

His other demands included empowering the States to make all the key decisions on metro rail projects, including fare fixation and claim settlements. :lol::lol::cheers:

Way to go Yeddy - Bash Montek this guy is biased against Karnataka ...hope he doesnt hold up Power/Metro/Railway finances

The global city that Bengaluru is, looks poised to become a mega city in the next decade along the lines of international cities such as New York, Shanghai, Tokyo, Karachi and Dhaka among others, and Delhi, Mumbai and Kolkata in India.

By 2021, this city will join the league of mega cities of the world, with the highest population, not just in India but the globe.

A study by TERI University in New Delhi puts Bengaluru in the running to reach the 10 million population target and more before 2021, taking it to the level of a mega city in the near future.
With an estimated population in excess of 10 million in the next few years, the IT capital and also Hyderabad and Chennai are expected to grow in numbers.

According to the study, one of the authors being Prof P.K. Joshi of TERI University, these three cities (Hyderabad, Chennai and Bengaluru) will take the mega cities in India to a total of six, when India will have the highest concentration of mega cities in the world.

Bengaluru will follow Delhi, Mumbai and Kolkata that have already been tagged as mega cities, stated the study. Prof Joshi also highlights the fact that, “This is a reiteration that the rate of urbanisation has increased over the last four decades in India. Such interactions will create an impact between the global environmental changes and the local environment of urban areas.”

Along with the population increase, the concern is that the fastest growing urban areas in India including Bengaluru, are medium-sized cities.

This means that they face the challenges of significantly fewer resources to pour into the complex infrastructural, social and environmental issues associated with rapid urbanization. This will further add to the pressure of cities that are constantly developing.

The study, felt Prof Joshi, is important to understand the change as measurement and assessment of urban growth is essential for city-planners, economists, environmentalists, ecologists, resource managers and the government at large, emphasises the report.

What’s a mega city?

A mega city is defined by the United Nations as a metropolitan area with a total population of over 10 million people. Some definitions also set a minimum level of population density of at least 2,000 people per sq km.

A mega city can also be a single metropolitan area or two or more metropolitan areas that have grown to form one urban area.
http://www.deccanchronicle.com/channels/cities/bengaluru/mega-jump-bengaluru-set-big-league-651

Bid farewell to cylinders. Now LPG will be supplied to homes, passenger vehicles and industrial estates via pipelines. This will make gas distribution in the city easy and hassle free.

Now Bangaloreans can avail Liquid Petroleum Gas (LPG) through pipes. A joint venture between State-run Gas Authority of India Ltd (GAIL) and Karnataka state Industrial and Infrastructure Development Corporation Ltd (KSIIDC) will supply piped gas to homes, compressed natural gas (CNG) to commercial and passenger vehicles and fuel to industrial estates in the city.

The city will see 700 kilometers of pipelines. A big gas pipeline will be laid at first and later LPG will be released through small pipes. A meter will be fixed for the pipe and customers should pay monthly. Work has already started on Magadi Road, Sumanahalli, Outer Ring Road, National Highway-4, BHEL circle, Big Bazar, Ramamurthy Nagar, Old Madras Road, KR Puram, Marthahalli, Silk Board Junction and National Highway-7. The entire process is slated to be finished by 2013.

This initiative taken by GAIL and KSIIDC is an effort to set up natural gas infrastructure in industrial estates, city gas distribution networks and distributed power generation projects in industrial areas across the city. Authorities at GAIL claim that laying the gas pipeline in the city is going smoothly. Work in some areas is already complete. Once the pipeline work is completed, work on supply of piped gas to homes, compressed natural gas (CNG) to commercial and passenger vehicles, and fuel to industrial estates in the city will start.

The 1,413-km Dabhol-Bangalore pipeline will carry 16 million metric standard cubic meters (mmscm) of gas per day at `5,000 crore and the 1,114-km Kochi-Mangalore-Bangalore pipeline will carry another 16 mmscm of gas per day at `3,300 crore.



Nice to see some progress on what ought be a hygiene factor (a la Mumbai). Any of you guys know about (the existence of?) a plan to extend this to all of Bangalore? South Bangalore is conspicuous by its absence in this report.

Source (http://www.mybangalore.com/article/0611/piped-gas-on-its-way-to-bangalore.html)

Nice to see some progress on what ought be a hygiene factor (a la Mumbai). Any of you guys know about (the existence of?) a plan to extend this to all of Bangalore? South Bangalore is conspicuous by its absence in this report.

Source (http://www.mybangalore.com/article/0611/piped-gas-on-its-way-to-bangalore.html)
Yes, I've seen this over the course of 4 months.
The service lanes of ORR from KR Puram to Iblur have been dug up for the DBPL.

...which finds a mention in the report as well.

But it just cant be only in those areas, can it? What is the intended coverage of the pipes (in terms of no of wards covered or % geo area of BBMP or no of households or whetever else as a coverage metric?)

Also, assuming this is phase 1 of whetever plan they have to cover Bangalore, wondering when roads elsewhere are to be dug up.

[ Always nice to know why roads anywhere are dug up..]

...which finds a mention in the report as well.

But it just cant be only in those areas, can it? What is the intended coverage of the pipes (in terms of no of wards covered or % geo area of BBMP or no of households or whetever else as a coverage metric?)

Also, assuming this is phase 1 of whetever plan they have to cover Bangalore, wondering when roads elsewhere are to be dug up.

[ Always nice to know why roads anywhere are dug up..]
Think they're bypassing city via ORR.

Another retro bangalore video .. the sparse traffic on the streets looks like special effects.

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One of the MALAYALAM hits from the 1980s. In this Mohanlal as a Cop comes to Bangalore for a case investigation.

Another one...from 1989. Again Mohanlal is the son of local neta who studies(apart from studies, he does everything else) in Bangalore (who returns to avenge his father's death).

Vidhan Soudha, MG Road, Ulsoor Lake everything covered.

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Not sure if this video has been posted before, but interesting nevertheless:

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Great video of Bangalore in the early 1960s:

Queen Elizabeth II visits MG Road, Lalbagh etc.
You can also see Sri Jayachamarajendra Wodeyar, Maharaja of Mysore.

Click on the image to see the video:


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^^ Lovely. Saw one today at Ejipura, but couldn't snap it as I was in a moving bus.

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There's a pot of silicon at the end of that rainbow :lol:

/pj

Great video of Bangalore in the early 1960s:

Queen Elizabeth II visits MG Road, Lalbagh etc.
You can also see Sri Jayachamarajendra Wodeyar, Maharaja of Mysore.

Click on the image to see the video:


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Nice video of an era gone by. It is hard to believe how less than two decades of Independence, people were jumping all around on seeing the Queen as if they were still in British India and not Independent India. :)

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Azim Premji was present among others in NRN's son's wedding reception.

18 June 2010

Agencies
Posted online: 2010-06-17 19:20:54+05:30

Bangalore: Mumbai outpaced Bangalore, with a margin of about Rs 200 crore, to become India's top biotech city in terms of revenue while city-based bio pharmaceuticals major Biocon clocked the highest revenue in 2009-10.
Biocon, known for its insulin and cancer drugs, topped the Biospectrum-ABLE list of top 20 Biotech companies after a gap of four years growing at 29.34 per cent to record revenues of Rs 1,180 crore, said the eighth annual survey.
The survey has been jointly conducted by the Association of Biotechnology Led Enterprises (ABLE) and monthly journal BioSpectrum from the CyberMedia group based on inputs from over 150 biotech companies.

According to the survey, the Indian biotech industry has grown three-folds in just five years to report revenues of USD three billion in 2009-10, a growth of 17 per cent over the previous year.

The Biopharma sector contributed nearly three-fifth to industry's revenues at Rs 8,829 crore, a growth of 12 per cent followed by Bioservices at Rs 2,639 crore and Bioagri at Rs 1,936 crore. The remaining revenue came from Bioindustrial segment with a contribution of Rs 564 crore and Bioinformatics at Rs 231 crore.

The sector earns a little more than half of its revenue from exports. Biopharma and Bioservices sector contributed 63 per cent and 33 per cent to the total biotech exports, respectively. The Bioagriculture, Bioindustrial and Bioinformatics sectors remained focused on domestic operations bringing in nearly 90 per cent of their revenues from India.

The BioSpectrum study notes that the biotechnology ecosystem has become strong with technology providers and the biotech education sectors playing a key role.

While Biocon was number one, Pune-based Serum Institute of India slipped to the second spot with revenues of Rs 850 crore.

Panacea Biotec, Nuziveedu Seeds and Reliance Life Sciences were ranked number three, four and five, respectively. The next five positions went to Quintiles, Rasi Seeds, NovoNordisk, Shantha Biotech and Mahyco.

Western India continued to dominate India's biotech industry with 46 per cent share in the overall revenues of Rs 14,199 crore.

The 137 companies in the region clocked Rs 6,631 crore during the year increasing the region's share in the overall revenues by three per cent over 2008-09, thus gaining a lead of six per cent over South.

Gujarat's share in the total revenue grew by about 50 per cent to cross Rs 1,100 crore.

West is home to top Bioagri companies such as Monsanto, Mahyco and Ajeet Seeds and MNCs like GlaxoSmithKline, Roche, Aventis Pharma, Wyeth and Quintiles.

Four of India's top ten services companies (CROs) are also based out of West, including the number one CRO in the Indian industry - Quintiles India (Rs 375 crore).
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If BSY Continues in Power Bangalore will only retain it's tag of being corruption capital of India

woooo

in your face bangalore

woooo

in your face bangalore

I declare the games open

hardly

I am not from chennai......

otherwise truly games open.



The very fact that bangalore is coming second to a city metropolitan region with 3 times its population is something to be proud about.

200 crore is not that big a figure. Its basically a cost of a flyover

^^ Chennai is not in consideration now. How dare you compare Bangalore to Mumbai ? It's Shanghai, Singapore and Tokyo that deserve the mantle of comparison.

And I thus escape from here.

http://www.ukibc.com/news_and_media/articles/mumbai_first.aspx
18 June 2010

If BSY Continues in Power Bangalore will only retain it's tag of being corruption capital of India

:ancient: june 2010 that is good one year back :bash: Now we have metro and mumbai got killer trains that kill 2000 innocents every year :ohno: I dont think biotech can sustain in costly mumbai.

:ancient: june 2010 that is good one year back :bash: Now we have metro and mumbai got killer trains that kill 2000 innocents every year :ohno: I dont think biotech can sustain in costly mumbai.

but you dont have monorail :ohno:

:ancient: june 2010 that is good one year back :bash: Now we have metro and mumbai got killer trains that kill 2000 innocents every year :ohno: I dont think biotech can sustain in costly mumbai.

Not necessarily....Im sure at least a 100 of them are total assholes


ps:I dont mean to be insensitive at all...just filling in for george carlin:lol:

Not necessarily....Im sure at least a 100 of them are total assholes


ps:I dont mean to be insensitive at all...just filling in for george carlin:lol:

hahahaha

:ancient: june 2010 that is good one year back :bash: Now we have metro and mumbai got killer trains that kill 2000 innocents every year :ohno: I dont think biotech can sustain in costly mumbai.

Does entire Bangalore have metro ? btw it's hardly 9 kms so what Hyd is getting a 78 km Network ,they are planning well ahead in terms of Infrastructure ,from past 11 years Governments in Karnataka is unable to start work on peripheral Ring Road this shows how efficient governance has been

Does entire Bangalore have metro ? btw it's hardly 9 kms so what Hyd is getting a 78 km Network ,they are planning well ahead in terms of Infrastructure ,from past 11 years Governments in Karnataka is unable to start work on peripheral Ring Road this shows how efficient governance has been

hahaha you are just talking about peripheral ring road in bengaluru,look at whole karnataka and its T2 cities :nuts:which are going from bad to worse.But I don't blame BSY for that,it is all because of inefficient congress and JD(s) rule for the past 50 years.None of our cities are actually growing and they will never until bangalore land mafia is uprooted :bash:

gentem needs to accept

Mumbaiu is numberu oneu

@Avinash

There is a Difference in Biopharma and Actual BioTechnology business.

Pharma business spread across Mumbai, Bangalore, Hyderabad and Gujarath.
Mumbai is always dominated in this business from decades long & Bangalore, Hyd, Gujarath are giving competation.

When it comes to actual Biotechnology ,Bangalore has a major dominance and Far ahead of other cities.
In this case, companies are usually Foreign Based.

Report mixed up with all above factors.

Also Govt is nothing to do with this. In fact BJP govt recently laid the foundation stone for 100 acre Helix Biotech Park @ Electonic city which is expected to complete in 2 years.

I hope am not wrong .Can someone confirm.

Does entire Bangalore have metro ? btw it's hardly 9 kms so what Hyd is getting a 78 km Network ,they are planning well ahead in terms of Infrastructure ,from past 11 years Governments in Karnataka is unable to start work on peripheral Ring Road this shows how efficient governance has been

to be fair its only phase 1 in bangalore.

I think the master plan is something like 150km or something.

gentem needs to accept

Mumbaiu is numberu oneu

:hilarious::hilarious::hilarious:

http://www.ukibc.com/news_and_media/articles/mumbai_first.aspx
If BSY Continues in Power Bangalore will only retain it's tag of being corruption capital of India
I'd rather BSY lead us than Deve Lowda and co.

However Bangalore still has India's largest BT cmpany. BIOCON.

plus the difference is only 200 crore.

you people need to stop crying if the difference is that small.

gentem needs to accept

Mumbaiu is numberu oneu
I accepted that the day I shifted out of Bombay into Bangalore.

gentem needs to accept

Mumbaiu is numberu oneu

mumbaiu is wrong, if a word ends in vowel already then u is not added in kannada :cheers: numberru onnu, if the vowel just before last letter is short or hruswa then letter is doubled, example bussu, else no doubling is used example good cachu.

and yes, mumbai number one can be taken away by delhi anytime..

@Avinash

There is a Difference in Biopharma and Actual BioTechnology business.

Pharma business spread across Mumbai, Bangalore, Hyderabad and Gujarath.
Mumbai is always dominated in this business from decades long & Bangalore, Hyd, Gujarath are giving competation.

When it comes to actual Biotechnology ,Bangalore has a major dominance and Far ahead of other cities.
In this case, companies are usually Foreign Based.

Report mixed up with all above factors.

Also Govt is nothing to do with this. In fact BJP govt recently laid the foundation stone for 100 acre Helix Biotech Park @ Electonic city which is expected to complete in 2 years.

I hope am not wrong .Can someone confirm.

good point. pharma is more in hyd also. we work higher up the value chain, where we devise forumla for these pharmas manufactured in mumbai :banana:

Govt feigns ignorance about BMIC project
P M Raghunandan Bangalore, June 14, DHNS


A file photo of the BMIC project.Fifteen years after conceiving the Bangalore Mysore Infrastructure Corridor (BMIC) project, the State government now claims it has no clue where exactly the controversial project is being implemented.

The Public Works Department (PWD), the nodal agency for the project implementation, has declared that it does not have vital details such as survey numbers, names of villages and boundaries of 20,193 acres required for the project.

Both the 1997 framework agreement (FWA) and the 2004 outline development plan (ODP) have only the theme alignment of the project, and they do not have the boundaries of the lands required for the project.

Interestingly, the government has already handed over about 6,400 acres to the project promoter Nandi Infrastructure Corridor Enterprise (NICE). Major portions of section A of the project — the peripheral road (41 km), link road (9.8 km), express way (13 km) and township 1 — are complete, and the State Cabinet recently fixed the compensation cost for 1,916 acres near Bidadi, which will be handed over to NICE. That the PWD does not possess these details came to light recently when the Bangalore Mysore Infrastructure Corridor Area Planning Authority (BMICAPA) sought a detailed map from the department. The BMICAPA has to incorporate the exact alignment of the project in its master plan 2015 (also called ODP), which is being revised.

Making right alignment

In order to fix the alignment in the master plan, the BMICAPA has to identify the project with the survey numbers of lands and villages where it will be implemented. The Authority will be able to ensure proper planning and development in its jurisdiction (701 sq km) spread across Bangalore Urban, Ramanagara, Mandya and Mysore, only if the project alignment is identified properly, official sources said.

The existing ODP was prepared in 2004. The ODP revision work has been entrusted to the Centre for Urban and Rural Infrastructure Planning (CURIP).

In response to the BMICAPA’s request seeking these information, the PWD in a letter dated March 21, 2011, (a copy of which is available with this paper) said it has a theme map that was approved in 2002 and that it does not have minute details of land required for the project.

The department has also said it has not yet issued the Essential Certificate (a document certifying the requirement of land) to the KIADB, which is acquiring land for the project. Under pressure to complete the OPD revision work, the BMICAPA had also written to the KIADB seeking details. The Board, in a letter dated May 15, 2011, said it would be able to provide the details only after the completion of the survey of the lands required for the project.
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Use of satellite imageries

The BMICAPA subsequently requested the PWD to approve a project alignment developed by CURIP using satellite imageries. But the PWD has not bothered to reply so far. The PWD, sources said, actually has all the details, but it is not ready to part with information as it may lead to legal complications. Moreover, the department fears that many of its lapses would be exposed if it divulges these information, sources pointed out.

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/168866/govt-feigns-ignorance-bmic-project.html

Cross-posting from Chennai thread. Courtesy: bonoslack7

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/around-town/803737/0

On the eve of ‘World Elder Abuse Awareness Day’, HelpAge India, an NGO working for the welfare of the aged, released a nationwide report on ‘ Elder Abuse & Crime in India’ at the Mumbai Marathi Patrakar Sangh. The report was released by the organisation’s Territory Head (Maharashtra, Goa and Gujarat), Prakash N Borgaonkar along with Advocate Samruddi Pore. The report, compiled on the basis of a survey conducted in Delhi, Mumbai, Bangalore, Kolkata, Bhopal, Chennai, Patna and Hyderabad, showed the maximum elder abuse in Bangalore (44%) and the lowest in Chennai (2%).

Shocking as it may be, the pensioners’ paradise of Namma Bengaluru actually tops the list when it comes to cases of abuse of its elderly citizens.

A report on ‘Elder Abuse and Crime in India’ which was conducted by the HelpAge India and was released by police commissioner B.G. Jyothiprakash Mirji on Tuesday, shows that the city does not really treats its silver citizens well.

While Bengaluru tops elder abuse cases at a shocking 44 per cent, it is closely followed by Hyderabad at 38 per cent, the lowest being Chennai at 2 per cent.

This explains the increasing number of calls for help to the elders’ helpline 1090. There have been around 7,000 calls to the Elders’ Helpline in the city in a year’s time.

On World Elder Abuse Awareness Day, June 15, psychiatrists in the city say that these numbers are only the tip of the iceberg as there are so many who suffer in silence and are really in need of help.

For every single call made there might be thousands of others who do not reach out for any help. There are around 8.5 lakh silver citizens in the city and many of them need help.

“Not all the elderly may ask for help although they may be going through a tough time in our society which is in transition. While the young have become very career oriented, the old have not yet come to terms with the fact that they can no longer depend on them,” says Dr S.G. Muraliraj, HoD( psychiatry), Manipal Hospital.

They are therefore bewildered by the lonely life suddenly thrust on them and have a difficult time fending for themselves.

“The elderly begin to feel lonely and abandoned when their children travel abroad to pursue a career, especially because they are at an age when they need attention.

Even when they have children staying with them, they sometimes feel left out as they are hardly noticed,” Dr Muraliraj explains, regretting that although they need someone to spend just half an hour listening to them to make them feel better, this is becoming too much to ask given the hectic lifestyle of people today.

“The only way to deal with this is for senior citizens to get more independent and involved in various kinds of activity,” says Dr Shekar Shastry, a consultant psychiatrist. But sometimes the problem is much more serious and may involve physical abuse of the elderly by either family members or service providers.

“If the elderly have property this becomes a bone of contention,” says Vishal Singh, a volunteer counsellor with the Elders” Helpline. It is then up to volunteers like him to come to the rescue of the old. Not all of them, however, even know where to turn for help, which makes life all the more difficult for them.

Findings of the HelpAge India study conducted across cities including Bengaluru, New Delhi, Mumbai, Kolkata, Bhopal, Chennai, Patna and Hyderabad:

*Elder abuse is highest among the 70-plus elderly and it’s mostly of women who are dependent on their sons.

*Nationally, more than 1/5th of the elderly (22 per cent) have experienced abuse.

*About 72 per cent of the elderly stay with their sons.

*Nationally, the average monthly household income of the elderly was Rs 6,269.

*66 per cent of the elderly are financially dependent on someone.

*More than half (51 per cent) of the elderly felt that there has been an increase in the incidents of abuse in the last three years, while, in Bengaluru, 74 per cent of the elderly thought the same.

*19 per cent of India’s elderly feel neglected; in Bengaluru, 46 per cent of the elderly feel neglected.

‘40 per cent of elderly abused’

Dr Radha S. Murthy

Senior citizens are having a difficult time with the gradual breaking up of the joint family. The elderly sometimes have to put up with various kinds of torture and abuse, both emotional and financial.

It is estimated that about 40 per cent of the elderly in Bengaluru suffer abuse.

We try to tackle their problem through the Elders’ Helpline, but as we no longer receive government aid we need more volunteers to help us deal with it. There are about 8.5 lakh senior citizens in Bengaluru and their problems seem to be on the rise.

With people living longer, houses getting smaller and congested there is greater stress in the few joint and extended families that are still around. The old often feel marginalised, isolated and insecure due to the generation gap and the change in lifestyle today.

They complain about loneliness, property disputes and even getting beaten up by family members.
We try to immediately rush to their rescue in such cases, but such abuse not only by family members but also service providers is on the rise.We have organised an awareness walk on Wednesday to sensitise people to this issue.

It will be flagged off from Lalbagh gate facing the Double Road and culminate at the Sandhya Kirana Centre, behind the hockey stadium in Richmond Town.

Dr Radha S. Murthy is managing trustee of Nightingales Medical Trust that runs the Elders’ Helpline
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Numbers talk

*8.5 lakh senior citizens in Bengaluru

*2,645 written complaints of a very serious nature received by the Elders’ Helpline.

*1,191 cases solved so far

*40-60% rise in cases of harassment of the aged by family
http://www.deccanchronicle.com/channels/cities/bengaluru/bengaluru-gives-its-silver-citizens-short-shrift-435

Elita Promenade residents allege that builder kept them in the dark about sewage pipe passing through their complex to a nearby lake

Neethu.Reghukumar @timesgroup.com


The residents of Elita Promenade apartments in JP Nagar 7th Phase are facing a problem of a different kind.They say that a huge pipe carrying sewage is running through their apartment complex and emptying it in the Jaraganahalli-Sarakki Lake.
S Nagendran,a resident,said,When we occupied the flats,construction of phase two was on.The pipe has been laid in the phase two area.One day in December 2010,we saw a huge pipe within our complex.It was facing the lake.That is when we found out what was happening.
Residents contacted their builder,Keppel Puravankara Development Pvt LTD.(KPDPL).Elita Promenade is a joint venture between Keppel Land,Singapore and Puravankara Projects with Keppel Land owning the controlling majority.
N R Sudheer,a retired engineer and a resident,said,The builders said they had no other choice,as residents of nearby areas were letting sewage into the lake,either directly or through vacant plots due to a design problem in the drainage system constructed by the BWSSB.When Elita Promenade was being constructed,the flow of sewage was blocked by the compound wall.So the locals started making holes in the compound wall.Following discussions with locals,the company came up with this solution.
But,buyers were kept in the dark.
We bought from reputed companies to avoid problems.Yet,if the pollution control board or the lake development authority initiate any action,we would be at the receiving end for no fault of ours, said Srinivas Varadhan,another resident.
We asked the builders to block the sewage as a first step and take police protection,but the company is not willing to do this.Finally,we wrote to the BWSSB.Their officials inspected the spot,but nothing happened after that, said Girish Kurudi,a resident.
Besides the discomfort to the residents,there is also the question of polluting a lake.How can the company pollute a lake Will they dare to do this in their country They sold the property showing the lake in the vicinity.The phase two flats were sold for Rs 10 lakh more than the other flats.But now they are helping others pollute our natural resources.We dont want to be a party to this.We have a sewage treatment plant in our apartment complex,but are facilitating someone elses sewage into the lake, said Bharath Kedlaya,a resident.
When contacted,Peter Chew,the country head of Keppel,said he was out of the country.When contacted later,he told BM to contact his office and hung up.Even after repeated calls,no one answered the landline.
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Primarily built for the British Soldiers for their entertainment. Dance and later a movie hall.

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July 04, 2005
The Opera House that was

Bangalore-Back and Forth
The Opera House that was
Deccan Herald

The Opera House at the end of Brigade Road has been closed for decades. But its owners, having waged a long legal battle, promise to restore it to its original glory now.



He emerged from the shadows of the huge Opera House building that we have all grown up with but never entered. Ramakrishna, a slight and erudite man welcomed me into the hallowed premises of his Opera House. The possibility of getting the true history of the building was exciting.

Gracious era

For decades the building seemed to be crying out for succour and always evoked images of a bygone gracious era. Stories floated around from old timers of the City about the grand dances and soirees held in its premises by the British soldiers, but for decades all one could see was the building getting more dilapidated with each passing year. Recently all the extraneous garment stalls on the periphery disappeared and the makings of a garden began.


Ramakrishna showed me around the cavernous hall by torch light. The wooden floor boards had been pulled up and sold, the staircase with the burnt remanents of its red matting and gracious sweep stood as silent testimony to the vandalism of the tenants. “My father bought the building in 1959 and we have both grown old fighting to get back what was ours for over 37 years. I want to refurbish it to the grandeur of its hey day,” he says. “ I have fought for this building and will never pull it down,” is his response to my prodding about his living on a gold mine.

Upper floor

Negotiating the stairs, which have become dangerous and rickety with a couple of steps missing, we climb up with the light of a torch to the upper floor. “This balcony overlooking the dance floor was divided all around into elegant cubicles where couples wined and dined and took a turn on the floor whenever the fancy took them.”

Looking down one could almost conjure up a sight of the floor filled with handsome soldiers with their beautiful dates dressed in flowing Victorian gowns waltzing to a live band playing maybe the Blue Danube Waltz. At one end a huge stage still stands where probably the Opera was staged, very like those on Broadway. The background painting of trees is still visible though quite faded now after so many decades.

Stage

“Look at those holes in the floor of the stage,” says Ramakrishna, pointing his torch to large open holes while a bat flies past our heads. “That is where the actors made their entry and exit and the tunnel still runs from below the stage to the front of the building,” he reveals.

Movie hall

“For a while the place was used as a movie hall but there are no projectors left, in fact the 60-odd tenants just built up walls breaking down whatever they felt and destroying the original ornamentation. If there is anyone who can give me pictures of what the building originally looked like I would be very grateful,” he adds.

It is a mammoth task. And we look forward to the day when maybe the walls will resound once more to the music and the dancing of a modern-day Opera.

Brigade road corner.. How about sponsoring a fresh coat of paint would cost?

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/channels/cities/bengaluru/bengaluru-gives-its-silver-citizens-short-shrift-435

very nice initiative.

Can Mumbai catch up?

If at all there's any question of Mumbai catching up with, it is Delhi/NCR and not Bangalore. With phase III of DM completing in 2014 the DM will link every part of Delhi as effectively as Mumbai's local trains do. In addition, Gurgaon and Noida-Greater Noida are both emerging as big business destinations in their own right. Noida-GN area according to a report in Fortune has almost as many flats as Mumbai does. If both Gurgaon and Noida can improve their infrastructure and control corruption the way Delhi has done, Mumbai is in for very stiff competition. The problem is neither Haryana nor UP are as development oriented as Delhi is. Had they been, NCR may well have displaced Mumbai as the nation's commercial capital. Unfortunately, for many years neither of the two states invested money back in their satellite cities. Even a basic thing like city buses in Gurgaon took so long and is still nowhere near the required level. You have to contrast infra in Navi Mumbai and Gurgaon to see how poor civic management in Gurgaon has been.

Notwithstanding that, it's Kolkata which should really be watched. Mumbai's rise as a city was aided by Kolkata's decline. If Kolkata can reemerge as a major economic hub Mumbai's preeminence will be challenged both in the north and the east.

Ultimately, it's India which benefits from intra-city competition!:cheers:

If at all there's any question of Mumbai catching up with, it is Delhi/NCR and not Bangalore. With phase III of DM completing in 2014 the DM will link every part of Delhi as effectively as Mumbai's local trains do. In addition, Gurgaon and Noida-Greater Noida are both emerging as big business destinations in their own right. Noida-GN area according to a report in Fortune has almost as many flats as Mumbai does. If both Gurgaon and Noida can improve their infrastructure and control corruption the way Delhi has done, Mumbai is in for very stiff competition. The problem is neither Haryana nor UP are as development oriented as Delhi is. Had they been, NCR may well have displaced Mumbai as the nation's commercial capital. Unfortunately, for many years neither of the two states invested money back in their satellite cities. Even a basic thing like city buses in Gurgaon took so long and is still nowhere near the required level. You have to contrast infra in Navi Mumbai and Gurgaon to see how poor civic management in Gurgaon has been.

Notwithstanding that, it's Kolkata which should really be watched. Mumbai's rise as a city was aided by Kolkata's decline. If Kolkata can reemerge as a major economic hub Mumbai's preeminence will be challenged both in the north and the east.

Ultimately, it's India which benefits from intra-city competition!:cheers:
+1.
It's India which benefits. I like that statement.
Lovely.
:cheers:

If at all there's any question of Mumbai catching up with, it is Delhi/NCR and not Bangalore. With phase III of DM completing in 2014 the DM will link every part of Delhi as effectively as Mumbai's local trains do. In addition, Gurgaon and Noida-Greater Noida are both emerging as big business destinations in their own right. Noida-GN area according to a report in Fortune has almost as many flats as Mumbai does. If both Gurgaon and Noida can improve their infrastructure and control corruption the way Delhi has done, Mumbai is in for very stiff competition. The problem is neither Haryana nor UP are as development oriented as Delhi is. Had they been, NCR may well have displaced Mumbai as the nation's commercial capital. Unfortunately, for many years neither of the two states invested money back in their satellite cities. Even a basic thing like city buses in Gurgaon took so long and is still nowhere near the required level. You have to contrast infra in Navi Mumbai and Gurgaon to see how poor civic management in Gurgaon has been.

Notwithstanding that, it's Kolkata which should really be watched. Mumbai's rise as a city was aided by Kolkata's decline. If Kolkata can reemerge as a major economic hub Mumbai's preeminence will be challenged both in the north and the east.

Ultimately, it's India which benefits from intra-city competition!:cheers:

Time for mumbai to buckle up. They are modernising railway stations like churchgate which is good move. If they modernise functioning of local trains that is better, like installing escalators to foot overbridge. Metro and monorail both will be in place in 2 years, but city will still miss an underground metro badly. As for NCR they need a delhi bypass road between Gurgaon and Noida. And Kolkata should rebound on change of govt and second metro line.

But as always bangalore is underrated, which tops in india in grade A office space and quality of living. But everyone will take notice of the city once metro starts in a month's time. Bangalore also belongs to only 3 tier 1 cities in india.

mumbaiu numberu oneu

you needu tou acceptu gentemu

^^ mumbai may be number one city overall, but as per mercer's quality of livingu, ahead of mumbai, bengaluru is numberr onnu :banana:

^^ mumbai may be number one city overall, but as per mercer's quality of livingu, ahead of mumbai, bengaluru is numberr onnu :banana:

finallyu you acceptu

thankyou :cheers:

^^
mumbaiu is wrong, if a word ends in vowel already then u is not added in kannada :cheers: numberru onnu, if the vowel just before last letter is short or hruswa then letter is doubled, example bussu, else no doubling is used example good cachu.

and yes, mumbai's number one can be taken away by delhi anytime..



good point. pharma is more in hyd also. we work higher up the value chain, where we devise forumla for these pharmas manufactured in mumbai :banana:

seems u missed my comment here :bash: In fact mumbai is only alpha global city in india. delhi and bangalore are only beta cities, as per some report.

Banglore was the first city to lead Indian into the 21st century.

^^


seems u missed my comment here :bash: In fact mumbai is only alpha global city in india. delhi and bangalore are only beta cities, as per some report.

for heaven sake gentem i am having some fun with you.

dont make my comments seriously.

Pune and bangalore are my favourite cities after mumbai and yes bangalore has a better quality of life.

you dont need to tell me that.



You honesty need to chill a bit. Not every comment is a dig or competition.

Banglore was the first city to lead Indian into the 21st century.

But bangalore now back to 20th century while other cities progressed, with 11.30pm deadline and visitor dancing ban in pubs :bash: You feel afraid to go out late night as you will be harassed by police :ohno:

Yes I agree but it's a minority, and they seem hell bent on doing this to India. It is pretty sad, India is a democratic nation and people need to stand up to this crap, nut the police question is all over India. People are threatened, intimated by the police, sometimes India does not feel too democratic.

Banglore was the first city to lead Indian into the 21st century.
EVery city contributed equally.

Competition among cities is good for infra as it sees improvement, but bad as it causes tension among people. [If you get what I mean].

Hats off to Mumbai when it comes to accomodating people at 1L per month or whatever the stats are....
Bangalore is still a crawling baby needs a lot of support from State & Union Govt to stand up to give competition interms of Infra - Mumbai/Delhi/Chennai/Hyd...
Lets hope for the best...If u guys dont want to change the topics there is some news in Praja - Commuter Rail is on its way to Namma City...hope things turn out for good...
People travel from Sharjah to Dubai a lot as it provides cheap cost of living the same happens in every big city around the world...this would help bengalooru -cities around -Bangarpet/kolar/tumkur/hosur/chikkabellapura would benifit

more than anything

I think more than transport something needs to be done about water issues in Bangalore.That is still the biggest issue.



Mumbai for all its woes i think(and i am not sure) has the best water infra of all metro cities in India.

Its not because the authorities in Mumbai have been great, its just that the british left a lot of good water infra in mumbai. Pipes and routes were laid a long time ago for water to be collected in big lakes miles away. If anything the authorities in Mumbai have messed up heavily and despite the head start given by the British Mumbai has water issues.


A few friends of mine went to Pune to work after being raised in Mumbai and they tell me that the water issues in Mumbai are nothing compared to Pune.

^^ You seem to be talking of future ghost. In future anything can happen including a doomsday :bash: Currently no water problem in bangalore whatsoever. Recycled water is used for trees etc., drinking water is not a problem.

And naveen talking about a retrograde system. Railways is suitable only for long journeys thats all. Once metro comes in a month or two commuter rail will be laid to rest forever.

^^ You seem to be talking of future ghost. In future anything can happen including a doomsday :bash: Currently no water problem in bangalore whatsoever. Recycled water is used for trees etc., drinking water is not a problem.

And naveen talking about a retrograde system. Railways is suitable only for long journeys thats all. Once metro comes in a month or two commuter rail will be laid to rest forever.

yav area thamdu ?. Water woes is the biggest problem in bangalore esp suburb areas like whitefield, surjapur road, other east and south Bangalore.
Anyway cauvery 4th phase project suppose to be complete by mid-2012 that provide water supply for 10 lakhs resedents.

Also commuter rail system is good for bangalore it avoid road traffic to some extent.

yav area thamdu ?. Water woes is the biggest problem in bangalore esp suburb areas like whitefield, surjapur road, other east and south Bangalore.
Anyway cauvery 4th phase project suppose to be complete by mid-2012 that provide water supply for 10 lakhs resedents.

Also commuter rail system is good for bangalore it avoid road traffic to some extent.

South Bangalore !!! which areas ?? South gets Cauvery water, dont think there is any problem there.

Parched Bangalore East up in arms (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bangalore/Parched-Bangalore-East-up-in-arms/articleshow/8881523.cms)
Senthalir S, TNN | Jun 17, 2011, 12.36am IST
BANGALORE: Water shortage is not an issue only in summer. Many areas in Bangalore East haven't received water for the past two months though it has rained quite a bit during April and May.

Residents here feel there's water pilferage in many areas and BWSSB officers are not taking any steps to fix the problem. While the water meter at Millers' Road reads 35 million litres of water per day (mld), it reads 15-18 MLD in Bore Bank Road. "We're entitled to get 35 MLD in our areas."

Residents of Shadabnagar, Kaveri Nagar, SR Block, Chikkanna Layout, Muneshwara Board and parts of DJ Halli have not received proper water supply for the past two months. They are dependent on private water tankers. "Where is the rest of the water going? What are officials doing about it?" Mohammed Ghouse, a resident of Shadabnagar, said.

There are more than 200 houses in Pillanna Garden alone.

However, Rajeshwari R, a resident of Pillanna Garden, said: "We pay nearly Rs 600 for one water tanker. Besides, we pay Rs 45 for drinking water for my children. It has been two months since we got water supply. The newly laid pipeline to increase water pressure to our areas has not helped us in any way."

Earlier, Bangalore Water Supply and Sewerage Board (BWSSB) had informed that due to water leakage, the pressure was very less and hence there were problems in water supply.

The water board laid new feeder lines to supply water to Bangalore East and it said most affected areas like Pillanna Garden would get regular water supply. However, the problem remains unresolved.

Chandru M, a resident of T Dasarahalli, said: "There are nearly 150 illegal connections in T Dasarahalli. But, they are yet to be disconnected." Assistant Executive Engineer (AEE) Gopal Gowda said they would supply water to the affected areas. He added there was no problem in supply and if there was, it would be sorted out.

South Bangalore !!! which areas ?? South gets Cauvery water, dont think there is any problem there.

If BTM layout and Madivala are in South Bangalore, then yes, there is a water problem there, was there atleast in 2010.

I think every major Indian city faces water woes.

It depends on the system you use. Bangalore me thinks is heavily reliant on river water just like Delhi and the Yamuna.Mumbai is more about catchment areas or lakes which get full with water.


but gentem you cant be serious that bangalore has no water issues as of now. Consistantly thats the only major thing i read about.


Transport is being addressed by ring road and even metro.


Maybe something drastic needs to be done about the water situation by digging massive lakes.

Only Mumbai, Delhi and Bangalore are tier 1 cities - JLL:
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/7993/indiacitytier.jpg
http://www.joneslanglasalle.com/ResearchLevel1/research_india_30_real_estate_opportunities_in_tier_III_cities.pdf

Karnataka has 2 tier-3 cities while TN has only 1, seems Madurai is not big yet.

damn

look at nashik.

i always thought Aurangabad was fourth after mumbai mmr pune and nagpur in maharashtra

btw I find it extremely surprising that Kolkata is not a tier 1 city.

^^ haha read note there, kolkata was actually a tier-3 city :lol: This is 2008 report btw.

it shows tier 2 in the diagram

http://lite.epaper.timesofindia.com/RepositoryET/ETBG/2011/06/15/7/Img/Ad0070302.png

I thought Bombay, Madras, Delhi and Calcutta were metro cities. Tier 1/2 doesn't apply to metros.

This tiering is purely based on Real-estate activity, which, tbh, is not everything. As such, Mumbai, Delhi, Kolkata, Chennai remain the 4 original metros, with Bangalore and Hyderabad joining the list later on, in the late 90s I think.

This tiering is purely based on Real-estate activity, which, tbh, is not everything. As such, Mumbai, Delhi, Kolkata, Chennai remain the 4 original metros, with Bangalore and Hyderabad joining the list later on, in the late 90s I think.

na na na na na na tier 2 :baeh3:

If Madras is classified as a metro, Bangalore/Hyderabad and perhaps even Pune are no less worthy of being classified as Metros. All these cities, especially BGLR cannot be considered anything other than a metro.

@Ichi Well, it clearly says we are the next Tier I. So there's a new kid on the block, and she's gonna have your head on the block.

Can we take this elsewhere ? This poor thread's suffered a lot.

Kolkata has lost a lot importance in the past decades so honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if real estate activity in Bangalore/Chennai and Hyderabad or Pune would be higher than Kolkata. Kolkata airport for example had less traffic last year than Bangalore, Chennai and only a little more than Hyderabad.

@Ichi Well, it clearly says we are the next Tier I. So there's a new kid on the block, and she's gonna have your head on the block.

Can we take this elsewhere ? This poor thread's suffered a lot.

tieru twou for you.......:lol:

^^ Amare paas Amma gey :lol:

Guys please understand what the pics says. It is a tiering system based on real estate activities only provided by real estate consultancy firm. The rating is purely based on volume of activity. They say cities can move based on yearly activity in real estate and Calcutta moved from Tier 3 to Tier 2 in 2007 and in Chennai the activity is speeding up so in near term it will move up to Tier 1 city.

^^ Take it easy chennaidesi. We like to have fun. We will not kill each other, promise.

If Madras is classified as a metro, Bangalore/Hyderabad and perhaps even Pune are no less worthy of being classified as Metros. All these cities, especially BGLR cannot be considered anything other than a metro.
Who said BLR and HYD aren't metros?

In the Republic of India, declared metropolitan cities are Mumbai (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mumbai), Delhi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delhi), Chennai (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chennai), Kolkata (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolkata), Guwahati (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guwahati), Surat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surat), Bangalore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangalore) and Hyderabad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyderabad,_India). Residents of these cities are also entitled to a higher house-rent allowance. The Census Commission defines the qualification for metropolitan city as population more than 4 million, so Pune (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pune), and Ahmedabad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmedabad)[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolis#cite_note-3) are qualified to be declared as metropolitan cities.

because u still dont get a 50% tax free HRA :-)

This statistics not just realestate , But also Cosmo culture, Brand name in global Map/media , Adapting international standards , People outlook.....etc

Bangalore Now integral part of indian business sector.
Look at the Number of foreign delegates who visits Bangalore very recently , Warren buffett ,Frecnch President , British Princes ,British PM..........including slovenia president today.
They all first visits Bangalore in their trip to india ..then move to Bombay , Delhi.

Thanks to Kiran Majumdar, NRN, HAL, IISc, IBM-India who are building 'Brand Bangalore'.

^^ yes in India as per political ,cultural diff its only 4 metros.
Delhi ,Bombay,Madras.Kolkata.

Entrepreneurs from Bangalore <Wiki>
Azim Premji, India's richest man (as of 2004[update]). Founder of Wipro Technologies
Vijay Mallya, CEO of UB Group, owner of the Kingfisher brand, Royal Challengers Bangalore Cricket team and Force India F1 team.
Kiran Mazumdar, founder of Biocon, a bio-technology company
N.R. Narayana Murthy, founder of Infosys
Sabeer Bhatia, founder of Hotmail
Ramjee Chandran, founder, Managing Director of Explocity Group of magazines and websites.
Subroto Bagchi, COO of MindTree Consulting
Captain G R Gopinath, Managing Director of Air Deccan

These cities where headquarters of the British Rule i guess which continue to be called the metros

This statistics not just realestate , But also Cosmo culture, Brand name in global Map/media , Adapting international standards , People outlook.....etc

Bangalore Now integral part of indian business sector.
Look at the Number of foreign delegates who visits Bangalore very recently , Warren buffett ,Frecnch President , British Princes ,British PM..........including slovenia president today.
They all first visits Bangalore in their trip to india ..then move to Bombay , Delhi.

Thanks to Kiran Majumdar, NRN, HAL, IISc, IBM-India who are building 'Brand Bangalore'.
They come to Bangalore because the DEFENCE sector and Space sector, DRDO, ISRO, HAL, NAL, DARE, CAIR, GTRI, BEL, BHEL, ECIL, etc all are in Bangalore ...

Bangalore and Hyd are new metros per govt.
Bangalore is tier 1 based on Real estate activities (actually number 1 in terms of volume) Chennai would join soon into tier 1 and Ahmedabad would join tier II as well this year.
the original metros were based on regional hq of British India and population, Todays metros are based on economic activities, Except in Population in all other scenarios Bangalore comes at number 3 .In-terms of economic and globalization impact Bangalore comes after Mumbai and Delhi followed by Chennai , Kolkata and Hyderabad.

for North, East and West it is very clear with 3 mega cities, Where as in South it was Chennai but now it was over taken by Bangalore. But still politically Chennai comes as a important center with most consulates concentrated in Chennai rather than Blore or Hyd.

At national level Chennai remains at number 4 pushing Kolkata to 5 or even 6 now. Kolkata was at number 1 during 1960's.

Ahmedabad and Surat are not in Globalization indexes but they will join the list soon.

They come to Bangalore because the DEFENCE sector and Space sector, DRDO, ISRO, HAL, NAL, DARE, CAIR, GTRI, BEL, BHEL, ECIL, etc all are in Bangalore ...
Ettana maamara ettana kogile ettanidentha sambandavayya . Anyway,

They all came for diff-different purposes and they visits IISc, IIMB, Infosys, Biocon, HAL, Spa therapy @ Whitefield ,To Invest Blr based auto comp......etc

At national level Chennai remains at number 4 pushing Kolkata to 5 or even 6 now. Kolkata was at number 1 during 1960's.


Agreed.Whenever I think of the mega cities - these 4 come to my mind first Mumbai,delhi,chennai and kolkata.Bangy and Hyd are new entrants in the league of mega cities.

http://www.deccanheraldepaper.com/pdf/2011/06/18/20110618aA001100008.jpg

WOW... Whatta man!!

Fellas, stop this fight about Tier-1 or Tier-2. Lets not fight about what some outsider says. We all know the list of 6 major cities in India and they are referred to as Tier-1 by so many means. Pune will join this list in a decade.

BANGALORE: Switzerland has set up a consulate general in Bangalore. It will cater to the southern states Andhra Pradesh, Karnataka, Kerala, Tamil Nadu, Puducherry and Andaman and Nicobar Islands.

"The consulate will promote trade, investment and tourism," Switzerland's ambassador to India Philippe Welti said at a meeting organized by FKCCI here on Friday.

Visas will be issued in the second half of next year when the consulate expects to move to a new building. Till then, services for the region will continue in Mumbai.

Black money

Welti said the issue of black money stashed in Swiss banks hasn't impacted the ties between India and Switzerland. Banking secrecy laws are not meant to protect criminal money or criminals, he said, and the Indian government will be entitled to get required details based on specific requests.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bangalore/Swiss-consulate-in-Bangalore/articleshow/8898264.cms

http://www.deccanheraldepaper.com/pdf/2011/06/18/20110618aA001100008.jpg

More of our taxpayer money going down the drain in frivilous challenges...These people need to be given a massive kick between their legs

http://www.deccanheraldepaper.com/pdf/2011/06/18/20110618aA001100008.jpg
He's got guts for sure.

^^Oh, he has issued this letter from Kottakkal Arya Vaidya Shala. Kerala. Today saw the news and pictures of him in the Malayalam dailies regarding his monsoon ayurveda chikitsa. Would make him rejuvenated more strong for the bout.

Yeddyurappa ji, go ahead.:)

He's got guts for sure.


Kumarswamy has ran out of all ideas and knows that for now,both Cong and the Guv are not with him. He has become so desperate that he thought at least by this way he can definitely "BUY" peace with Yeddi. BTW,Yeddi is no saint ,cud'hv induced him because of constant pinpricks by HDD :bash:and HDK.:bash:

All dirty games played by the politicians... really shameless people.:bash::bash:

^^ Agreed Yeddy isn't a saint, but Kumaraswamy is more EVIL-ish than Yeddy. Bangalore has suffered a lot thanks to them. NICE Road being an example.
Oh, he has issued this letter from Kottakkal Arya Vaidya Shala. Kerala. Today saw the news and pictures of him in the Malayalam dailies regarding his monsoon ayurveda chikitsa. Would make him rejuvenated more strong for the bout.

Yeddyurappa ji, go ahead.

LOL

Bangalore and Hyd are new metros per govt.
Bangalore is tier 1 based on Real estate activities (actually number 1 in terms of volume) Chennai would join soon into tier 1 and Ahmedabad would join tier II as well this year.
the original metros were based on regional hq of British India and population, Todays metros are based on economic activities, Except in Population in all other scenarios Bangalore comes at number 3 .In-terms of economic and globalization impact Bangalore comes after Mumbai and Delhi followed by Chennai , Kolkata and Hyderabad.

for North, East and West it is very clear with 3 mega cities, Where as in South it was Chennai but now it was over taken by Bangalore. But still politically Chennai comes as a important center with most consulates concentrated in Chennai rather than Blore or Hyd.

At national level Chennai remains at number 4 pushing Kolkata to 5 or even 6 now. Kolkata was at number 1 during 1960's.

Ahmedabad and Surat are not in Globalization indexes but they will join the list soon.


Previously I think Chennai was the premier city of south India but now I think Bangalore is in most aspects head and shoulders ahead of both Chennai and Hyderabad. Bangalore today is without doubt India's 3rd city, after Delhi and Mumbai. Kolkata today I think is no more important than Ahmedabad or Pune. Honestly, Pune and Ahmedabad may actually be getting more investment and economic activity than Pune.

Similarly in the case of Delhi, it was far behind Mumbai in the past. But today Delhi is on par with Mumbai in many parameters. Delhi airport is now almost as busy as Mumbai is (last year it was actually busier.) This is a good sign because the more other cities in India start catching up with Mumbai it will show that economic growth is percolating to every part of India.

After Delhi, Mumbai and Bangalore, I would agree Chennai comes fourth but Hyderabad/Pune are close at fifth while Ahmedabad/Kolkata come in at sixth or even seventh. Today's metros cannot be classified according to British criteria. The British may have classified Chennai/Delhi/Mumbai/Kolkata as metros but with so much economic growth in different cities along with increasing migration the old classifications are no longer useful. Pune in particular probably gets more investment than Kolkata does.

^^ As for IT pune, hyd and chen are better positioned as it is geographically closer to bangalore. I think cochin has an opportunity here. IT being human resource intensive geographic proximity matters. North indian IT people would prefer pune and hyd equally with blore.

But kolkata has potential, 2nd metro line being constructed will feed first line each other. And google satellite view i see it larger than bangalore, meaning more population, 1.3 crore is what a forumer said here. While bangalore urban district has 96 lakhs population. Rajarhat new town is being developed near airport, that could be new Gurgaon.

But adding 2 more cities as metros in south may not go well with north dominated central govt. Instead they should remove definition of metro from all laws like 40% hra exemption for non-metros etc.

^^ Try out a new rant....we are getting bored uncle....you are still pathetic...yes, its a NORTH dominated Govt.....can you do something in that????

some new CRY TONE please......Gentema

and also, without doubting your unearthly intelligence ....can please pull off some kind of stat to prove that everything in India is North heavy...and IT cannot move to upper region....and also, to end this can you please shops us the stat of bangalore IT and Delhi NCR database???


Would appreciate it.....Gentam the great...

^^ As for IT pune, hyd and chen are better positioned as it is geographically closer to bangalore. I think cochin has an opportunity here. IT being human resource intensive geographic proximity matters. North indian IT people would prefer pune and hyd equally with blore.

But kolkata has potential, 2nd metro line being constructed will feed first line each other. And google satellite view i see it larger than bangalore, meaning more population, 1.3 crore is what a forumer said here. While bangalore urban district has 96 lakhs population. Rajarhat new town is being developed near airport, that could be new Gurgaon.

But adding 2 more cities as metros in south may not go well with north dominated central govt. Instead they should remove definition of metro from all laws like 40% hra exemption for non-metros etc.

If Kolkata had not slipped, Mumbai may never have risen to the stature it had. It's often not appreciated that Mumbai's rise to being the first city was helped because of how little competition it had from other cities it had. For decades post independence, there was literally no other city which was competing with it. Delhi was still an entirely political city, Kolkata was suffering from trade unionism and Bangalore was still very much a pensioner's paradise. Kolkata can still recover its lost glory but there's a lot of work involved to do so.

As the undisputed mega city of eastern India, Kolkata has huge potential and always had. The question is whether this can be tapped. It can actually be India's gateway to the East but the policy makers have to realize their city's potential and work to make the city the "hub" for the whole of eastern India.

http://www.deccanheraldepaper.com/pdf/2011/06/18/20110618aA001100008.jpg

This is fun. So it's like HDK says something, a charge. Then Yeddy turns to the idol of Manjunatha Swamy and says "Objection, My Lord !" They should telecast it live.