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archzine
November 13th, 2011, 06:07 AM
It is also the hub of Software Architecture ;)

skysher
November 15th, 2011, 07:04 PM
Quick curious question from an outsider (Mumbaikar). How do you rate the current BJP government in terms of contribution to infra? (Considering not just B'lore but KA as a whole). Any chances of it coming back to power? Granted everyone hates the incumbent. But given the choice of the better of two evils, would KA choose BJP over JD or Cong, if say snap polls were held today?

engineer.akash
November 15th, 2011, 07:11 PM
^^Development in KA is always Bangalore centric.BJP has done fantastic job in Bangalore compared to jd(s) or Congress.KA tier two cities continue to rot. :bash

naveen_blr
November 15th, 2011, 08:52 PM
^^Development in KA is always Bangalore centric.BJP has done fantastic job in Bangalore compared to jd(s) or Congress.KA tier two cities continue to rot. :bash

yes they are better than other govts and they have initiated good projects for Tier 2 & 3 cities which we need to see helps to counter migration and develop them

Roads
%share for trains
Airports
GIM-Industries
Power

archzine
November 16th, 2011, 04:47 AM
Quick curious question from an outsider (Mumbaikar). How do you rate the current BJP government in terms of contribution to infra? (Considering not just B'lore but KA as a whole). Any chances of it coming back to power? Granted everyone hates the incumbent. But given the choice of the better of two evils, would KA choose BJP over JD or Cong, if say snap polls were held today?

Disgraced ex-CM Yeddy wouldn't have cried in jail (according to bogus news TV9) when metro had launched unless his government had spent a lot on infra :ohno:

gentem
November 16th, 2011, 11:16 AM
Yeddyurappa gets anticipatory bail (http://www.deccanherald.com/)
Bangalore, Nov 16, (IANS):

In a breather for former Karnataka chief minister B.S. Yeddyurappa, the high court Wednesday granted him anticipatory bail in two corruption cases.

Justice H. Billappa of the high court granted bail to the 68-year-old Bharatiya Janata Party leader on condition that he furnish a bond for Rs.200,000, two sureties for the same amount each and not tamper with evidence.

Yeddyurappa is already out of jail on bail in two other corruption cases and has sought anticipatory bail in a fifth case.

The five cases of corruption and illegal land deals were filed by two Bangalore advocates Sirajin Basha and K.N. Balaraj in January this year.

Yeddyurappa, BJP's first chief minister in Karnataka, was in Bangalore's central jail for 21 days from Oct 19, though he was arrested Oct 15 in two cases. He spent only a few hours in jail Oct 15 and spent three days in two hospitals complaining of chest pain.

He resigned as chief minister July 31 after the then Lokayukta (ombudsman) N. Santosh Hegde recommended his trial for corruption in an illegal mining scandal.

Yeddy is free till final verdict on the cases :banana: bjp should make him cm again as soon as lokpal is passed in parliament. Since lokpal excludes PM they should amend karnataka lokayukta act to exclude CM..

^^Development in KA is always Bangalore centric.BJP has done fantastic job in Bangalore compared to jd(s) or Congress.KA tier two cities continue to rot. :bash

yeddy started 100 crore grant every year to all tier 2 cities. earlier even that was not there :(

avinash2060
November 18th, 2011, 07:56 AM
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6060/6357125971_9bb60c369f_b.jpg

doc.aneesh
November 18th, 2011, 07:59 AM
Anyone here interested in mapping??

archzine
November 18th, 2011, 10:56 AM
Anyone here interested in mapping??

What mapping exactly?

doc.aneesh
November 18th, 2011, 12:07 PM
What mapping exactly?

Openstreetmap.

We know our locality in Bangalore best. So we can correct mistakes and add details to our neighbourhood...
I have to say it's quite fun too...
@www.openstreetmap.org/edit

sunilkumar
November 18th, 2011, 01:01 PM
^^ Have a look @ wikimapia (http://wikimapia.org/#lat=12.9867859&lon=77.7352881&z=17&l=0&m=b&v=8) by Google/wiki. It has many features & even places are already well edited.

doc.aneesh
November 18th, 2011, 01:10 PM
^^Openstreetmap has fine details and can be used in navigation apps and for tracking... so is google maps...
Wikimapia is not used for anything else... either way, editing openstreetmaps is easy and enjoyable:) update the road names, area names, stores, banks, atms, restaurants around your home/work/visiting places in Bangalore and we'll all have a rich and informative map that we can use for anything

Indian Sun
November 18th, 2011, 05:42 PM
Anyone here interested in mapping??

Planemad.

engineer.akash
November 21st, 2011, 05:34 PM
Groundnut Jatre is turning out to be a mega hit :)

Bangaluru rocks!! Bangalurina hawa hathh bitarae bere metro oorgalu ishtanae agolla....It's a fact.. :banana:

engineer.akash
November 21st, 2011, 06:59 PM
Lighting is fantastic,Someone get vidhan soudha in between :P

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/984/dscn9876.jpg

Copyright Chandan Chaurasia

gentem
November 23rd, 2011, 06:14 PM
YR12Z8f1Dh8

tamil-english :)

engineer.akash
November 23rd, 2011, 06:15 PM
WSH will be a success despite HI-IHF stand-off: Suniel Shetty (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/hockey/WSH-will-be-a-success-despite-HI-IHF-stand-off-Suniel-Shetty/articleshow/10844351.cms)


NEW DELHI: Bollywood on Wednesday became part of the World Series Hockey (WSH) as the Bangalore franchise, moments after being acquired by Zentrum Group, appointed cine star Suniel Shetty as the team's mentor.

The franchise has been named as 'Karnataka Lions'. The action hero straightway exuded confidence that the multi city-based league would see the light of the day despite the long-standing dispute between Hockey India and Indian Hockey Federation.

"Everything is being taken care of as the WSH management is looking into the issue and the organisers are in constant touch with the authorities concerned. I hope that this issue will be a minor one and we overcome all the glitches. I hope for the success of the tournament," Shetty said.

"All are looking forward to playing in this tournament. The management is doing its bit and we are hoping for positive results. Everyone is tirelessly working on resolving the issue. We hope that this stand-off comes to an end soon," added Shetty.

WSH is a lucrative league jointly organised by the IHF and Nimbus Sports. IHF is not affiliated to the International Hockey Federation (FIH) and the world body recognises HI as the national federation for the sport in India.

FIH had also threatened to bar players from national selection if they take part in WSH.

Tye team has been acquired by Sporting Ace, a part of the Zentrum Group, which is a global player in the field of energy, chemicals, education, sports, information technology, consulting, media and outsourcing.

Shetty, who has been actively associated with organising several sporting and celebrity events in India, said the sport needs better infrastructure and its due share of promotion.

"Hockey needs infrastructure in the country, players need better salary and exposure, and this is what I believe WSH will do, promising an alternate career to kids who do not make it to the national team necessarily," the 50-year-old said.

The actor said his role as a mentor will be to spread the awareness of the game and promote the cash-rich event.

"This association is a dream come true for me. Being part of hockey which is your national game, it's a real honour. According to me if you are supporting hockey you are also supporting other sports and hoping that they also reach the same platform, at least close to what cricket is today.

"As a mentor, I will be building the team, building the infrastructure in Karnataka itself to develop the sport. It's a great opportunity for the youngsters to show their talent and skill," he added.

Asked about the future of the series as the Premier Hockey League (PHL), launched a couple of years ago, died a premature death, Shetty said, "From PHL, there's a lot that we have learnt. We have to make sure that we don't repeat the mistakes committed by the PHL organiers."

Shetty said it's the right time to organise the league despite the fast-approaching Olympic qualifiers.

"The more they play the better they will be. I believe the tournament is happening and because it's happening we are supporting it. I think it will help the Indian players in their preparation for the Olympic qualifiers."

Asked about what prompted him to join the WSH, Shetty said, "Because everybody is part of the IPL, all actors are promoting cricket so I decided to promote hockey."

The WSH will be held from December 17, 2011 to January 22, 2012 and will involve 200 leading players - Indian and international - who will showcase their talent in 61 matches.

Players are being allocated to the teams based on the internationally accepted and practiced 'draft' system.

The inaugural edition of the league will comprise eight teams out of Mumbai, Delhi, Chennai, Hyderabad, Bangalore, Chandigarh, Pune, Bhopal, Punjab, Ranchi and Rourkela.


Suniel Shetty chief mentor of WSH's Bangalore franchise (http://sports.ndtv.com/othersports/hockey/item/181368-suniel-shetty-chief-mentor-of-wshs-bangalore-franchise)


http://sports.ndtv.com/images/stories/suniel-shetty300.jpg
New Delhi: Bollywood actor Suniel Shetty is going to be the chief mentor of Bangalore franchise of World Series Hockey, Karnataka Lions, that has been acquired by Sporting Ace Pvt Ltd.

"Sporting Ace Pvt Ltd is part of the rapidly growing Zentrum Group and has acclaimed Bollywood action hero Suniel Shetty as the chief mentor," WSH said in a statement.

"Zentrum Group is a global player in the field of energy, chemicals, education, sports, information technology, consulting, media, and outsourcing and works extensively with the world's leading corporate houses, governments, and institutions."

Shetty, an avid sports enthusiast, has also been the brand ambassador for Indian hockey.

"I am extremely proud to spearhead the Karnataka Lions in World Series Hockey. I have been the brand ambassador for Indian hockey and felt it was about time I took a more active role in creating a global platform for our hockey players to excel," Shetty said.

Sagar Pol Chowdhury, managing director, Sporting Ace Pvt Ltd said the Bangalore franchise will be much more than just a profitable venture.

"We are committed to invest in sports and the newly formed entity Sporting Ace will look at promoting multiple sports and help build necessary infrastructure. WSH is the first and most important step in that direction."

This is the second of the eight city based franchise to be announced by WSH.

Chennai Cheetahs, the first franchise to be named, are owned by Chennai Sports Organisers, backed by LT Nanwani, the director and promoter of Jubilee Granites mining company.

The WSH will be held from December 17 to January 22 and will involve 200 leading players - Indian and international - who will showcase their talent in 61 matches. It will be a multi-city franchise-based League with players being allocated to the teams based on the internationally accepted and practiced 'draft' system.

kadri_007
November 25th, 2011, 11:42 AM
EXCON 2011 is happening in BIEC , Off Tumkur road, Bangalore Near NICE road starting. Sunday its open for public. Dont miss it.

rsrikanth05
November 25th, 2011, 12:01 PM
Err.. if anyone is interested in mapping, contact PlaneMad, he's the messaiah of mapping.
He's got the new NH map which even the govt doesn't have.

gentem
November 26th, 2011, 04:18 AM
'Psychopath' rowdy shot at, injured (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bangalore/Psychopath-rowdy-shot-at-injured/articleshow/10875205.cms)
TNN | Nov 26, 2011, 02.01AM IST

BANGALORE: Notorious rowdy Sayed Rahil, who spread terror in Hennur, KG Halli, DJ Halli and Banaswadi with his violent ways and faced 22 criminal cases, was shot at and injured by police early Friday morning on Nehru Road.

Banaswadi inspector Rangappa shot Rahil, 26, twice in the leg after the criminal attacked Constable Balaji, with a machete and injured him.

On a tip-off, Rangappa, Balaji and three other policemen closed in on Rahil, who was walking on Nehru Road at 5.30am. Seeing the police, Rahil whipped out the machete and attacked Balaji.

Four cases of assault and robbery had been booked against Rahil in the area in the past 10 days and police set up a special team to nab him.

Rahil's manic streak struck fear in residents of the area. Senior police officers described Rahil as a psychopath. He rode recklessly on a two-wheeler and picked up fights with people. Rahil used to attack and grievously injure his victims mercilessly, even though they'd give him their valuables.

On November 8, Rahil assaulted a man after extorting money from him. On his way back, Rahil's scooter collided with the motorbike of an engineering student. Rahil attacked the student with a machete, injured him and torched his motorbike after dousing it with petrol.

"A criminal usually fears police and wouldn't repeat his criminal acts in the same locality in a short period of time. But Rahil would come back to same area again and again. He was a drug addict too," said M Chandrashekar, deputy commissioner of police (east).

Rahil and Balaji have been admitted to Dr B R Ambedkar Hospital where their condition is said to be out of danger.

Who is Sayed Rahil?

A school dropout, Sayed Rahil alias Rahil Ali alias Sultan entered police files in 2007, when a case of criminal trespass and intimidation was registered with KG Halli police. Brandishing a machete, he allegedly vandalized three shops in Vinobhanagar and extorted money from the owners.

Most of his victims were grievously injured. His area of operation extended to Hennur, KG Halli, DJ Halli and Banasawadi. By this November, Rahil was named in 22 cases and over 18 charges, including attempt to murder, extortion, chain-snatching and robbery. Ten cases were registered this year alone.

Police have no details of his family. His father Syed Hussein died long ago, while his mother and sister are in Muscat.

Good show by bangalore police, now they do half encounters :) They generally shoot criminals in the leg (likely after capturing the surrendered criminal) and then admit them to hospital. Like corporal punishment - the criminal wont forget the pain and hospital life. I saw many such report in last two years. Innovative approach :? Hope they dont shoot the knee, instead they can shoot the thigh or calf.. This case 2 shots were not required one was enough :bash:

Euromast
November 26th, 2011, 08:41 AM
Gentem after drinking light beer

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YR12Z8f1Dh8

tamil-english :)

flyinfishjoe
November 26th, 2011, 05:24 PM
That's disgusting. I can't believe they would degrade and humiliate another person like that.

naveen_blr
November 26th, 2011, 06:35 PM
That's disgusting. I can't believe they would degrade and humiliate another person like that.

Some here are worth an IGNORE

flyinfishjoe
November 26th, 2011, 11:36 PM
^^
??? :|

Anyways, here's a Kenyan song about chapati.
rrs8uG5K9so

Euromast
November 27th, 2011, 12:47 AM
Never mind.some will be always loosers

gentem
November 27th, 2011, 04:47 PM
That's disgusting. I can't believe they would degrade and humiliate another person like that.

I took it in a lighter vein, moreover im sympathetic to alcohol intoxicated people who pick up fight :cheers: I dont break my head into bhaiyas and sirjis who who cant even spell losers..

Euromast
November 27th, 2011, 05:26 PM
On lighter vein, never take panga with sirjis

engineer.akash
November 27th, 2011, 07:13 PM
Myanmar army surrenders to hot jalebis, sarees (http://ibnlive.in.com/news/myanmar-army-surrenders-to-hot-jalebis-sarees/206166-60-119.html)

Express News Service , The New Indian Express


BANGALORE: They came, they saw and� they got conquered, literally.
There were 33 in all - five officers and 28 soldiers - strong and handsome. While boarding a special flight back home on Saturday evening, ending their five-day sojourn to Bangalore and Mysore, the Myanmar Army delegation had a definite yeh-dil-maange-more-looks written all over. After all, it was not just the warmth of Madras Engineer Group and Centre (MEG&C) that alone floored them. The beautiful lakes, tempting jelabis, Mysore silk sarees and many more!

“Very nice city. This our first visit to Bangalore. We have come to India (Siliguri) in 2008. We heard a lot about Bangalore. It’s the IT city, you know? Nice lakes all around, beautiful people,” Maj Gen Hla Shwe, Vice Adjutant General of the Myanmar Army, told Express in broken English and bold Burmese accent. Stepping in with help and smile was Capt (Dr) Yan Nanny Tun, the interpreter-cum-liaison officer.
Maj Shwe said that Bangalore is very much like Maymyo City in Myanmar. “The weather is same like here. We are at home. Even the Indian Army is like Myanmar Army. Our cultures are similar. Your city is vary famous in Myanmar,” he said. “We liked the chapatis, hot-hot jalebis and poori bhaji (laughs). Very tasty it is,” the Major said.

The Major found time to buy silk sarees from Mysore for his wife, while his team bought bagful of handicrafts. “We enjoyed Mysore. We bought horses, elephants and tiger (just toys!). We visited the famous St Philomena’s Church too,” said Major Shwe, to whom even the Myanmar Air Force and Navy also reports to.

While his boys had friendly bout of boxing and a game of hockey with the Indian Army team, the Major and co were given a brief on the training aspects.

According to Brig Gurdip Singh, MEG&C� Commandant, the delegation was a given a presentation on philosophy of training in Indian Army. “Some of the technological advancements in the training by the Indian Army, including NBC (nuclear, biological, chemical) warfare, were discussed. These exchanges help increase the bonding between countries. We need more such exchanges,” Brig Gurdip said.

When Express team was about to leave, Maj Shwe called back and said, “You know. I am a front-line soldier since I was 21 years. I will comeback to Bangalore again.”

gentem
November 28th, 2011, 05:36 AM
On lighter vein, never take panga with sirjis

Sirjees and bhaiyas meekly surrender even before somebody takes panga, history says :ohno:

Euromast
November 28th, 2011, 05:40 AM
Read Sikh history

gentem
November 28th, 2011, 06:28 AM
^^ We were talking about sirjees.. not pajees :) Even marwadis were good but sirjees were big let down :bash:

Euromast
November 28th, 2011, 07:42 AM
lot of pajees forefathers were sirjees and marwadis. but anyway thatz different topic. i think for you one bhaiyya is enough

engineer.akash
November 28th, 2011, 04:43 PM
Have you guys ever read about Moscow-St Petersburg??

Some excerpts from various sources:

St. Petersburg was a capital from birth, something that Muscovites resent; they suddenly became provincials when Peter the Great moved the capital there in 1712. However St. Petersburg managed to prove its superiority in some things.

In Petersburg one doesn’t need to hurry. The city is much smaller than Moscow. There a person wants to walk, not run, although Muscovites don’t walk, they take cabs or the Metro during the long winter. Muscovites accuse St. Petersburg of being depressing, because the pace of life is too slow. This is partly because of the climate. St. Petersburg lies much further north and the city is very wet and windy. Muscovites often catch cold after visiting St. Petersburg. The sun rarely warms the citizens of Petersburg, because of high humidity.

Moscow is sunnier, and that’s why it seems smarter, than Petersburg. But there is an eclecticism that is peculiar to Moscow. An antique building and a glass skyscraper can be neighbours in Moscow, but not in St. Petersburg.

That’s why citizens of St. Petersburg say that the Muscovites don’t have a sense of style, whilst Muscovites accuse St. Petersburg as being boring.
St. Petersburg was built according to a well thought-out plan.

City regulations even today forbid he erection of buildings over 4 - 5 stories in the city centre. New buildings have to work, architecturally, with old buildings.

"As a city, Moscow lacks shape and symmetry when compared with St.Petersburg. It does have the rapid tempo that comes from being at the center of action. To a provincial, every Muscovite carries a bit of the aura of nobility. Muscovites, aware of this, tend to flaunt their intimacy with power. Since there are more job and career opportunities in Moscow than anywhere else, it attracts very talented and ambitious people."

Nowadays there is an opinion that the difference between Moscow and St. Petersburg has become a myth or a legend, as new high-speed trains services draw the cities closer and closer together. But there are major differences in the people themselves. Moscow is a very cosmopolitan city today. Who is a Muscovite? Nobody really knows. The majority of St. Petersburg citizens are drawn from Russian stock, but from northern Russian stock, and consequently they look and behave more like people from Finland or Scandinavia. St. Petersburg i.s nearer to Western Europe in more senses than one.

http://www.cnbcmagazine.com/story/a-sale-of-two-cities/42/1/

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1991-10-17/news/9102110649_1_boris-yeltsin-republics-moscow

http://www.passportmagazine.ru/article/1902/


^^

High speed train between Moscow-St Petersburg is nothing but Double tracking Bangalore-Mysore railway line.

Let Mysore remain like St Petersburg and Bangalore continue to behave like Moscow.We have no probs....

One state Many worlds :okay:

naveen_blr
November 28th, 2011, 04:52 PM
Have you guys ever read about Moscow-St Petersburg??

Some excerpts from various sources:









http://www.cnbcmagazine.com/story/a-sale-of-two-cities/42/1/

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1991-10-17/news/9102110649_1_boris-yeltsin-republics-moscow

http://www.passportmagazine.ru/article/1902/


^^

High speed train between Moscow-St Petersburg is nothing but Double tracking Bangalore-Mysore railway line.

Let Mysore remain like St Petersburg and Bangalore continue to behave like Moscow.We have no probs....

One state Many worlds :okay:

guys can Mysuru be like a Pune(to Mumbai) to Bangalore? grow like it?

engineer.akash
November 28th, 2011, 05:03 PM
guys can Mysuru be like a Pune(to Mumbai) to Bangalore? grow like it?

No!Pune is no longer the cultural hub of Maharashtra,but Mysore will continue to remain the Cultural Hub of Karnataka forever.

Kolhapur has a much deeper history than Pune and I feel Kolhapur is the real Heart of Maharashtra.Pune is losing its culture/heritage at a very fast rate,

Mysore just works like St Petersburg,while Pune is fully embracing Mumbai when it comes to heritage laws.

NGO to seek Government intervention

‘No structure over 7 m in height can come up within a 100-m radius of a heritage building'

‘But builder is constructing the complex to a height of 10.5 m'

MYSORE: Jagruthi, a city-based NGO, has urged the Ministry of Urban Development to look into the alleged irregularities in the construction of the Makkaji Chowk Complex.

The Hindu (http://www.hindu.com/2010/06/16/stories/2010061659510300.htm)

That is just one instance which makes us believe Mysore is not going the Pune way :cheers:

engineer.akash
November 28th, 2011, 05:06 PM
guys can Mysuru be like a Pune(to Mumbai) to Bangalore? grow like it?

There are very few Such pairs in the World,where you have a Small beautiful city brimming with heritage/culture along with a a mega Metro Capital city.Karnataka needs to be proud of such a pair,we must not go the Mumbai-Pune ugly Urban way

Euromast
November 28th, 2011, 05:22 PM
Yes Akash is right

doc.aneesh
November 28th, 2011, 05:32 PM
There are very few Such pairs in the World,where you have a Small beautiful city brimming with heritage/culture along with a a mega Metro Capital city.Karnataka needs to be proud of such a pair,we must not go the Mumbai-Pune ugly Urban way

Ahmedabad - Vadodara is similar to Bangalore- Mysore

engineer.akash
November 28th, 2011, 05:35 PM
Ahmedabad - Vadodara is similar to Bangalore- Mysore

Exactly!! :cheers:


A bit of Baroda in Mysore: Road in Sayajirao's name main market

Prashant Rupera, TNN Dec 28, 2009, 10.37pm IST

VADODARA: One can understand a road named after Maharaja Sayajirao Gaekwad in Vadodara. For it was due to this visionary ruler of erstwhile Baroda state that the city prospered. But, a road named after Sayajirao in Mysore? Well, if you happen to visit India's silk city, Sayyaji Rao Road' (as it is named) is not only one of the busiest roads but it's also the main marketplace there.

And, it's a testimony of the friendship Sayajirao shared with erstwhile Maharaja of Mysore, Chamaraja Wodeyar who ruled the southern princely state between 1881 and 1894.

Interestingly, it wasn't just Maharaja of Mysore who named a road after Sayajirao in the cultural capital of Karnataka. Such was the friendship between the duo that even Sayajirao had named a road in Gujarat's cultural capital in the name of Chamaraja. If you have started wondering which that road was, it is the one that connects the main gate of Laxmi Vilas Palace to Kirti Sthambh.

"My great grandfather and the Mysore Maharaja were very good friends. Both of them had advanced the princely states that they ruled. They had named prominent roads in their respective states in each others name as a token of friendship," scion of the royal family of erstwhile Baroda state Maharaja Ranjitsinh Gaekwad told TOI, adding that with passage of time the board mentioning the Laxmi Vilas Palace gate to Kirti Sthambh as Chamarajendra Road' vanished.

"Perhaps our education hasn't helped us in appreciating the heritage we have inherited and roads have come up after inconsequential names later on," said Ranjitsinh who is pained by the fact that people no longer know the existence of Chamarajendra Road.

But, the friendship between the two rulers wasn't limited to just roads. History has it that while Sayajirao named Chamarajendra Road' in honour of the Mysore Maharaja's visit to Baroda in 1888, the cordial relations between them also resulted in Baroda getting its own Oriental Institute which is now part of MS University.

"In 1891, Maharaja of Mysore established Oriental Institute in Mysore which is still an active institute operating in Manas Gangotri area of Mysore. Inspired by the institute at Mysore, Sayajirao conceived the idea of establishing a similar Oriental Institute in his own state in 1893.It was later on September 1, 1927, that an Oriental Institute was established in Baroda which was first being operated from Central Library before it was shifted in a separate building near the palace," said retired deputy director of MSU's Oriental Institute Dr S Y Wakankar.

The similarities do not end there. Both rulers were adopted by royal families and ascended the throne at an early age. Like 12-year- old Gopalrao, hailing from small village Kavlane in Dhule district of Maharashtra, whose father Kashirao was distantly related to the Gaekwads of Baroda, was adopted by Gaekwads to ascend the throne as Sayajirao III, Chamaraja who was third son of Rajkumari Sri Puta Ammani Avaru (eldest daughter of Krishnaraja Wodeyar III, the then Maharaja of Mysore) was adopted by Krishnaraja as heir.
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2009-12-28/vadodara/28106383_1_maharaja-ranjitsinh-gaekwad-erstwhile-baroda-state-oriental-institute

Doc aneesh are u interested in History???

doc.aneesh
November 28th, 2011, 06:03 PM
Exactly!! :cheers:


A bit of Baroda in Mysore: Road in Sayajirao's name main market


http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2009-12-28/vadodara/28106383_1_maharaja-ranjitsinh-gaekwad-erstwhile-baroda-state-oriental-institute

Doc aneesh are u interested in History???

Yeah, I do :)

The origins of places and cultures interests me a lot :)

engineer.akash
November 28th, 2011, 06:06 PM
Yeah, I do :)

The origins of places and cultures interests me a lot :)

Yes,I asked that question because I have seen u posting Whitefield documentary all over SSC I :P

doc.aneesh
November 28th, 2011, 06:10 PM
Yes,I asked that question because I have seen u posting Whitefield documentary all over SSC I :P

Yeah :) Have posted it in several places here.. I knew about it before it came in the newspapers.. I had a neighbour, a Late Mr. Broughton who had been in the British administration before moving to Whitefield.. He used to tell me these stories :)

engineer.akash
November 28th, 2011, 06:18 PM
Yeah :) Have posted it in several places here.. I knew about it before it came in the newspapers.. I had a neighbour, a Late Mr. Broughton who had been in the British administration before moving to Whitefield.. He used to tell me these stories :)

Great...I wish to do research on how Mysore-Bangalore urban corridor will shape up with time.Right now I feel a lot is in the hands of Mysoreans,they must decide on what kind of a city they want in future.One side you have Heritage at stake and the other side you have Economic progress.

doc.aneesh
November 28th, 2011, 06:25 PM
Personally, I feel they should keep Mysore as it is.. as the heritage and cultural epicentre of Karnataka..
For economic progress a separate area earmarked with good roads, water/sanitation, transport (maybe called something like Greater Mysore, Hosa Mysore etc) and connect it with Mysore..

Maybe that is just too big a dream... But that would be great!

I just hope it doesn't outgrow infrastructure like Bangalore

gentem
November 28th, 2011, 06:32 PM
st peterberg is isolated city. and limited by international boundary and sea. if you have to go to russia mainland from there you have to travel some 100 km in other countries latvia or something i guess. so that city cant grow..

no.. it is Kaliningrad not st peterberg. whatever

engineer.akash
November 28th, 2011, 06:37 PM
Personally, I feel they should keep Mysore as it is.. as the heritage and cultural epicentre of Karnataka..
For economic progress a separate area earmarked with good roads, water/sanitation, transport (maybe called something like Greater Mysore, Hosa Mysore etc) and connect it with Mysore..

Maybe that is just too big a dream... But that would be great!

I just hope it doesn't outgrow infrastructure like Bangalore

You are right,whenever I travel between Mysore-Bangalore by road, I get such thoughts.Mysore must be protected at any cost.Bangalore is too close to spill its urban venom.Guess what?Every 8km you will find a town on the Mysore-Bangalore Highway.

Mandya is looking modern these days,with lot of modern buildings and good roads.:lol:

doc.aneesh
November 28th, 2011, 06:44 PM
You are right,whenever I travel between Mysore-Bangalore by road, I get such thoughts.Mysore must be protected at any cost.Bangalore is too close to spill its urban venom.Guess what?Every 8km you will find a town on the Mysore-Bangalore Highway.

Mandya is looking modern these days,with lot of modern buildings and good roads.:lol:

In about 30 yrs, Bangalore and Mysore will become twin cities :(

engineer.akash
November 28th, 2011, 06:56 PM
In about 30 yrs, Bangalore and Mysore will become twin cities :(

That timescale over which Mysore-Bangalore corridor will transform from Rural to Peri urban to Urban is an interesting subject.

As I said it is all in the hands of Mysoreans and GOK has a big role to play here.Promoting other T2 cities is the key.

Mangalore a coastal city needs to pick up as the second growth engine of our state and ease Bangalore's woes.

rmvdweller
November 28th, 2011, 07:01 PM
Most Mysoreans I have met till today, completely resent the idea of Mysore becoming like Bangalore. Without exception, ALL the Mysoreans I have spoken to, have said that Mysore should be protected at all costs - they are willing to move to Bangalore and other cities for economic opportunities.

engineer.akash
November 28th, 2011, 07:15 PM
Most Mysoreans I have met till today, completely resent the idea of Mysore becoming like Bangalore. Without exception, ALL the Mysoreans I have spoken to, have said that Mysore should be protected at all costs - they are willing to move to Bangalore and other cities for economic opportunities.

That is true my friend.Bangalore was very beautiful in the 90's,it is beautiful even now compared to other metros no doubt.

KFC,Mcdonalds,Adigas,Kamat Lokaruchi,Indradanush,upchaar,Coffe cafe day many such restaurants have sprung up near Channapatna,mid way between Mysore-Bangalore.Hotel business is thriving on this SH 17.

Farmers in Ramnagara are parting their lands for industries.While Bidadi has turned out to become one industrial hub.

KIADB also has opened a couple of industrial layouts along the highway.

Urban corridor pushes up land prices


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BENEFITS: The highway has pushed up real estate value on its route thanks to improved connectivity. Photo: M.A. Sriram
Just a decade ago, motorists on the Bangalore-Mysore State Highway were hard put to find a decent hotel to stop by for a cup of coffee or a quick bite. Today, they are spoilt for choice with over a dozen restaurants besides innumerable dhabas.

This apart, noted coffee chains have also sprung up, offering fresh brews round the clock. If the mushrooming eateries are a result of the rapid rise in traffic, the demand for land has pushed up prices for property along the highway.

Improved connectivity

Not only has the cost of agriculture land increased manifold in the last decade, the highway has pushed up real estate value in the towns en route thanks to improved connectivity.

“The cost for an acre near Mandya town was around Rs. 10,000 to Rs. 20,000 a decade ago (before the widening of the highway). However, it now ranges between Rs. 15 lakh and Rs. 20 lakh, and even Rs. 40 lakh, in certain areas,” Mallesh, a resident of Mandya, told The Hindu. Land in the nearby villages is dearer now, he added.

Incidentally, this boom along the highway coincided with the real estate boom of 2003-2008, after which prices dropped sharply following the economic slowdown. During the boom, land was still pricier.

Pressure on farmers

According to Karnataka Rajya Raitha Sangha leader K. Narasaraju, many farmers sold their land as prices started appreciating and returns from agriculture were far from satisfactory. “There are also several instances of farmers who have sold their land for development along the highway ending up impoverished,” he said. “When they don't get [proper] price for their produce and labour becomes a problem, they are left with little choice. Farmers are also under pressure to sell their land when the real estate prices appreciate,” he said. Land prices are more than Rs. 40 lakh an acre near Gejjalgere and other places where industrial development is taking place. Though the demand has come down in the last one-and-a-half years due to the slowdown, transactions continue to take place, Mr. Narasaraju said.

Lease or rent

Many hotel and industrial units prefer leasing or renting the premises. “Real estate prices are very high. If a highway hotel is established on land ownership basis, it would cost around Rs. 3 crore, while renting it could cost only a third and we can set up three hotels,” said K.N. Vasudeva Adiga, who owns Adigas Restaurant at Maddur.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Bangalore/article2295317.ece

naveen_blr
November 28th, 2011, 07:17 PM
That timescale over which Mysore-Bangalore corridor will transform from Rural to Peri urban to Urban is an interesting subject.

As I said it is all in the hands of Mysoreans and GOK has a big role to play here.Promoting other T2 cities is the key.

Mangalore a coastal city needs to pick up as the second growth engine of our state and ease Bangalore's woes.

I want to see TCS & Wipro have large offices in Mysore -

Our Tier II cities will loose the race when it comes to Pune/Surat/Coimbatore if we do not provide a push.

TCS website shows office in Mangalore can someone confirm?

engineer.akash
November 28th, 2011, 07:19 PM
What used to be a delight is now a pain

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BURSTING AT THE SEAMS: Traffic between the two cities has witnessed exponential increase in the last decade. Photo: K. Murali Kumar
The commute between Bangalore and Mysore is fraught with tension and overcrowding

Gone are the days when the 139-km commute by road or train between Bangalore and Mysore was a pleasant journey through idyllic countryside. Today, it is a stressful experience if not a downright nightmare.

Take the Sirsi Circle-Jnana Bharathi campus stretch: for the road user, it is a hellish obstacle course through debris and barricades erected by at least three civic agencies.

Similarly, Bangalore-bound rail passengers must stand in serpentine queues to buy their tickets, only to find that they may not get a seat on the packed train.

As for those who board at Mandya, Maddur, Channapatna and Ramanagaram, they can forget about even looking for a seat.

Traffic between the two cities has witnessed exponential increase in the last decade. In fact, State Highway 17 — the stretch between Bangalore and Ramanagaram — is today the busiest in Karnataka. The Road Traffic Census 2010 recorded 68,654 passenger car units (PCUs) a day as against 42,530 in 1998.

The average number of daily train passengers between the two cities, which was barely 5,000 in the early 1990s, has now tripled to 14,670. An almost equal number travel daily from Mandya, Maddur, Channapatna, Ramanagaram and Bidadi to Bangalore and back. Tickets to Bangalore accounted for 65 per cent of those issued in Mysore in 2010-2011, Anup Dayanand Sadhu, Senior Divisional Commercial Manager, Mysore Division, told The Hindu.

Little wonder then that all the 19 trains on this route — 12 daily and seven non-daily long distance services — are packed to capacity.

On the bus

At least 864 buses operate from Bangalore every day to Mysore, including to destinations en route.

“Even with a load factor of 75 per cent, about 27,000 people travel on the route every day,” said K.A. Rajkumar, Director (Operations), Karnataka State Road Transport Corporation.

This pertains only to KSRTC figures. There is also a highly competitive private transport sector to cater to the ever-rising need of commuters.

Clearly, the stretch connecting the two cities is today a busy urban corridor, and its decongestion is an urgent requirement if the commute is to be made less stressful.

The fortunes of towns such as Bidadi, Ramanagaram and Channapatna are being increasingly linked to Bangalore, while Mandya is gravitating towards Mysore, which is emerging as a popular investment destination in the State, next only to Bangalore.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Bangalore/article2295320.ece

engineer.akash
November 28th, 2011, 07:23 PM
I want to see TCS & Wipro have large offices in Mysore -

Our Tier II cities will loose the race when it comes to Pune/Surat/Coimbatore if we do not provide a push.

TCS website shows office in Mangalore can someone confirm?

Those cities are big with huge economy compared to our T2 cities.They boast of great urban infrastructure which has attracted investments.Our T2 cities are literally rotting we need that heavy urban infra investment before we expect IT cos to set up shops.Need all that urban and social infra

engineer.akash
November 28th, 2011, 07:38 PM
Probe ordered Rs 1,539 cr BBMP scam
(http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/Probe-ordered-Rs-1-539-cr-BBMP-scam/881463/)

Bellary/Karnataka Karnataka Government today decided to order Corps of Detectives (COD) probe into the multi-crore financial scam in the Bruhut Banglore Mahanagara Palike (BBMP).
Announcing this to reporters here, Chief Minister D V Sadananda Gowda said "COD will probe into various financial irregularities that have taken place in BBMP. A decision to this effect has been taken to ensure transparency in administration", he said.

Recently BBMP Commissioner Siddaiah lodged a complaint to Bangalore Metropolitan Task Force (BMTF) police asking it to investigate into the Rs 1,539 crore financial irregularities in the BBMP wards coming under the assembly constituencies of Gandhinagar, Malleswaram and Rajarajeshwari Nagar.

The decision had evoked protests from BBMP corporators and even by some ruling party MLAs, but the opposition Congress and JDS demanded a thorough probe into the financial irregularities in all the 198 wards.

BBMP officials faced accusations of misuse of funds and payment of bills to unexecuted works among others.

Soon after the Siddaiah sought police probe, a fire broke out in one of the rooms in BBMP (city corporation) where records of the corporation had been stored.

Siddaiah had already declared that files pertaining to the financial scam in three assembly constituencies and others have not been damaged in the fire mishap.

Continuing his electioneering in Bellary Rural constituency hours before the campaigning ends, Gowda appealed to voters to teach a lesson to the indepdendent candidate B Sreeramulu.

The government will focus on development of Bellary district which was neglected by Janardhana Reddy, Sreeramulu and others earlier, he said.

kalkibhagwan
November 28th, 2011, 09:53 PM
'Psychopath' rowdy shot at, injured (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bangalore/Psychopath-rowdy-shot-at-injured/articleshow/10875205.cms)
TNN | Nov 26, 2011, 02.01AM IST



Good show by bangalore police, now they do half encounters :) They generally shoot criminals in the leg (likely after capturing the surrendered criminal) and then admit them to hospital. Like corporal punishment - the criminal wont forget the pain and hospital life. I saw many such report in last two years. Innovative approach :? Hope they dont shoot the knee, instead they can shoot the thigh or calf.. This case 2 shots were not required one was enough :bash:


I think its better to shoot such idiots, there should be no mercy in dealing with such idiots, if people can't behave themselves, then they must be dealt with.. after all, attacking a police officer is a serious mistake ...

gentem
November 29th, 2011, 04:06 AM
^^ Did you think that rowdy really attacked an armed police officer? :lol: He surrendered, they captured then they shot him in the leg. But two bullets was too much.

I want to see TCS & Wipro have large offices in Mysore -

Our Tier II cities will loose the race when it comes to Pune/Surat/Coimbatore if we do not provide a push.

TCS website shows office in Mangalore can someone confirm?

TCS has sales office in mangalore, not development. Wipro got land notified sez in srirangapatna near infy mysore. But TCS is not showing interest in any of tier 2 cities of karnataka they need to be taught a lesson, perhaps by not giving any more land in bangalore :bash: TCS last quarter was bad let us see how they will fare... If tcs had come to mysore it would have been really good for the city as wipro infy are there already

rmvdweller
November 29th, 2011, 06:42 AM
^^ Most Mysoreans don't want a single IT company to set up shop in Mysore. :)

gentem
November 29th, 2011, 09:55 AM
^^ Most Mysoreans don't want a single IT company to set up shop in Mysore. :)

Who will listen to mysoreans, it is state govt and central govt that take decisions. However i dont think mysoreans dont want IT which is the best industry to come to a city, compared to manufacturing industries which pollute :cheers: It is north mysore where most IT is situated

doc.aneesh
November 29th, 2011, 10:17 AM
If a separate region (similar to but better than electronics city) is planned, then this debate will become moot..
IT companies can set up shop there and leave the city alone..

But we all know that such a thing is highly unlikely

hakindian1984
November 29th, 2011, 11:26 AM
Bangalore: CBSE Syllabus for PUC from Next Academic Year

Daijiworld Media Network – Bangalore (SP)

Bangalore, Nov 29: The state government, which has sought two years time for bringing its student under the ambit of National Eligibility cum Entrance Test (NEET) for Medical (MBBS) seats, has decided to introduce Central Board of Secondary Education (CBSE) syllabus for pre-university classes with effect from next academic year.

The government has taken this decision as the NEET question papers are based on CBSE curriculum. CBSE curriculum will be introduced for first PUC in 2012, and the same will be continued in the second PU classes. The state government has decided to be brought under the NEET net with effect from 2014.

An agreement for a uniform combined entrance test all over the country had been reached last year itself. However, the final decision was suddenly postponed by a year at the last moment. Addressing a press conference, minister for higher education, Dr V S Acharya, said on Monday November 28, that the students of the state need some time to adapt to the new syllabus, as there are changes between the PUC curriculum followed by the state and the centre.

Acharya also said that the state will approach the courts, if union health minister, Ghulam Nabi Azad, who has been requested for time till 2014 to fall in line with NEET, does not agree to the state’s request. He expressed the optimism that NEET will benefit the students of the state, and that the state will not stand to lose as far as quota of the state is concerned. “It is true that we have to set aside 15 percent of seats in deemed, aided, and unaided medical colleges. But the same number of seats will be available to our students at the national level,” he explained.

http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=123373

dino_srk
November 29th, 2011, 12:28 PM
NEW DELHI: Pipping past the four metro cities of New Delhi, Mumbai, Kolkata and Chennai, the southern technology hub Bangalore has emerged as the best city to live in India, a global survey said today.:banana:

Despite its top Indian ranking, Bangalore's worldwide rank is very low at 141st position in a list of 221 cities globally in terms of standard of living, compiled by the 'Quality of Living Survey - Worldwide Rankings, 2011' by the global HR (human resources) consultancy major Mercer.

Vienna has been ranked as the world's best city to live in on the global list, which has five Indian cities -- Bangalore (141st), New Delhi (143rd), Mumbai (144th), Chennai (150th) and Kolkata (151st).

Globally, Vienna is followed by Zurich, Auckland, Munich, Dusseldorf, Vancouver, Frankfurt, Geneva, Copenhagen and Bern among the top-ranked cities in terms of quality of living, Mercer said.

In another list of the world's best cities in terms of personal safety standards, Luxembourg has been placed on the top, followed by Bern, Helsinki, Zurich, Vienna, Geneva and Stockholm.

On this list, Indian cities have been ranked a little better, as Bangalore has got 117th place, New Delhi and Kolkata shared the 127th position, Mumbai is at 142 and Chennai is placed at 108th.

Bangalore has been ranked as the best Indian city both in terms of quality of living and the personal safety standards.:banana:

The personal safety ranking has been on measures of internal stability, crime levels, law enforcement effectiveness and host-country's international relations.

Source: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/markets/real-estate/realty-trends/bangalore-best-indian-city-to-live-in-global-survey/articleshow/10918193.cms

avinash2060
November 29th, 2011, 12:29 PM
Bangalore best Indian city to live: Global Survey
New Delhi, Nov 29, (PTI) :

Pipping past the four metro cities of New Delhi, Mumbai, Kolkata and Chennai, the southern technology hub Bangalore has emerged as the best city to live in India, a global survey said today.

Despite its top Indian ranking, Bangalore's worldwide rank is very low at 141st position in a list of 221 cities globally in terms of standard of living, compiled by the 'Quality of Living Survey - Worldwide Rankings, 2011' by the global HR (human resources) consultancy major Mercer.

Vienna has been ranked as the world's best city to live in on the global list, which has five Indian cities -- Bangalore (141st), New Delhi (143rd), Mumbai (144th), Chennai (150th) and Kolkata (151st).

Globally, Vienna is followed by Zurich, Auckland, Munich, Dusseldorf, Vancouver, Frankfurt, Geneva, Copenhagen and Bern among the top-ranked cities in terms of quality of living, Mercer said.

In another list of the world's best cities in terms of personal safety standards, Luxembourg has been placed on the top, followed by Bern, Helsinki, Zurich, Vienna, Geneva and Stockholm.

On this list, Indian cities have been ranked a little better, as Bangalore has got 117th place, New Delhi and Kolkata shared the 127th position, Mumbai is at 142 and Chennai is placed at 108th.

Bangalore has been ranked as the best Indian city both in terms of quality of living and the personal safety standards.

The personal safety ranking has been on measures of internal stability, crime levels, law enforcement effectiveness and host-country's international relations.

A host of Indian and foreign IT companies, as also many multinational companies from other sectors, have set up shop in Bangalore for their outsourcing and R&D (research and development units).

On the other hand, Mumbai plays host to the companies mostly from the financial services sector, being the financial capital of the country, while New Delhi's attraction has been its status as the national capital. Chennai and Kolkata are have also been catching up fast in the recent past as major industrial hubs within the country.

About the survey, Mercer said that many cities in Asia have fared badly due to issues like political turmoul and lack of suitable infrastructure.

"Many Asian cities rank at the bottom, due to social instability, political turmoil, pollution, disease and sanitation issues, natural disasters such as typhoons and tsunamis, and lack of suitable infrastructure," Mercer's Asia Pacific leader for Global Mobility Phil Stanley said.

Globally, Baghdad (Iraq) has been ranked as lowest in terms of quality of living at 221st position. Other cities with the lowest quality of living are Khartoum, Sudan (217), Port-au-Prince, Haiti (218), N'Djamena, Chad (219), and Bangui, Central African Republic (220).

In terms of safety standards also, Baghdad is ranked the worst as the worst's least safe city at 221st position, preceded by N'Djamena, Chad (220), Abidjan, Côte d'Ivoire (219), Bangui, Central African Republic (218), and Kinshasa, Democratic Republic of the Congo (217).

Within Asia-Pacific region, Auckland (3) is the highest-ranking city for quality of living, followed by Sydney (11), Wellington (13), Melbourne (18) and Perth (21).

The highest-ranking Asian cities are Singapore (25) and Tokyo (46), Hong Kong (70), Kuala Lumpur (76), Seoul (80) and Taipei (85).

At the same time, Phnom Penh, Cambodia (186), Yangon, Myanmar (196) and Dhaka, Bangladesh (204), have been ranked lowest in the region.

Mercer said that the rankings would help the companies in assigning their employees on assignments across the world.

Slagin Parakatil, Senior Researcher at Mercer, commented: "Companies need to keep on top of current developments to ensure that their compensation packages remain competitive and continue to motivate expatriate employees."
http://www.deccanherald.com/content/208094/bangalore-indian-city-live-global.html

gentem
November 29th, 2011, 12:34 PM
^^ Chennai is ahead in safety with 108 or it maybe misprint 180 by PTI since it is written at last. More news awaited. Oringinal list http://www.mercer.com/press-releases/quality-of-living-report-2011 says only top 50. Even last year bangalore had topped this list with around same ranking.

Namma metro should have helped bangalore up the game here.

think-tank
November 29th, 2011, 06:11 PM
Of course, Bangalore is the best in India. Mysore should come after that but then again- Mysore qualifies as greater bangalore so...or maybe it's because of the superficial tier 2 tag, former is more likely.

I'd be more interested to see the next year's results just to see if metro has influenced the ranking or the cleaner lakes perhaps- cleaner and greener always counts in these mad surveys. In any case ranking only goes up unless people believe in devolution- which am afraid some people do.

engineer.akash
November 29th, 2011, 06:21 PM
Of course, Bangalore is the best in India. Mysore should come after that but then again- Mysore qualifies as greater bangalore so...or maybe it's because of the superficial tier 2 tag, former is more likely.

I'd be more interested to see the next year's results just to see if metro has influenced the ranking or the cleaner lakes perhaps- cleaner and greener always counts in these mad surveys. In any case ranking only goes up unless people believe in devolution- which am afraid some people do.

Let's not compare Bangalore and Mysore here,in many National surveys mysore has topped the charts being ahead of Bangalore.

It is not wise to compare Bangy and Mysore here, as Mysore is small.

I would say Bangalore is the best METRO city to reside!!Way too clean compared to other metro cities.But let's be proud of both the cities. :banana2:

think-tank
November 29th, 2011, 06:31 PM
Let's not compare Bangalore and Mysore here,in many National surveys mysore has topped the charts being ahead of Bangalore.

It is not wise to compare Bangy and Mysore here, as Mysore is small.

I would say Bangalore is the best METRO city to reside!!Way too clean compared to other metro cities.But let's be proud of both the cities. :banana2:

I'm proud of Mysore too. Let's make a truce :)

engineer.akash
November 29th, 2011, 06:34 PM
I'm proud of Mysore too. Let's make a truce :)

We never fought in the first place :) As I put it in the previous page.

St Petersburg:Mysore :: Moscow:Bangalore.All are lovely in their own way.:cheers:

think-tank
November 29th, 2011, 06:40 PM
We never fought in the first place :) As I put it in the previous page.

St Petersburg:Mysore :: Moscow:Bangalore.All are lovely in their own way.:cheers:

Well, my point from the start was to point out that Mysore is being grossly overshadowed by Bangalore which is why it is ignored in the survey because it if was included then it had a better chance of raising India's image in the overall score. For instance, tech firms overshadow what Mysore is famous for, as it did in Bangalore- most Bangaloreans were just ignorant people unaware of what was going on in Bombay and Delhi, all they cared was cubbon park, palace, library subscriptions and veg-hotels. :lol:

engineer.akash
November 29th, 2011, 06:43 PM
Well, my point from the start was to point out that Mysore is being grossly overshadowed by Bangalore which is why it is ignored in the survey because it if was included then it had a better chance of raising India's image in the overall score. For instance, tech firms overshadow what Mysore is famous for, as it did in Bangalore- most Bangaloreans were just ignorant people unaware of what was going on in Bombay and Delhi, all they cared was cubbon park, palace, library subscriptions and veg-hotels. :lol:

proximity to Bang has both pros and cons,For mysore those cons have truly turned out to be pros :lol: You can guess that....

Bangalore is still green,I find Basvangudi so charming,that recent groundnut jatre was so nice :happy: There are many beautiful localities in bangalore.Someone here said it-Most of Bangalore looks like a gated community.I agree with his point.

think-tank
November 29th, 2011, 06:47 PM
proximity to Bang has both pros and cons,For mysore those cons have truly turned out to be pros :lol: You can guess that....

Bangalore is still green,I find Basvangudi so charming,that recent groundnut jatre was so nice :happy: There are many beautiful localities in bangalore.Someone here said it-Most of Bangalore looks like a gated community.I agree with his point.

Yes, Bangalore does look like gated community in some areas. But four years down the line you'll have the tallest building in India. Proximity to Bangalore is fine only to a point- it has certainly stopped people from barging into Bangalore for no good reason.

engineer.akash
November 29th, 2011, 06:53 PM
But four years down the line you'll have the tallest building in India.

I won't be surprised if that happens!! :) We need innovative stuff not lame concrete blocks,I am sure Bangy scores in this area.

But swalpa problem idhae....Few high rise projects in Mangalore are also proposed which are pretty innovative.The biggest thing going to happen in Mangalore/Karnataka - Celebration Township!

think-tank
November 29th, 2011, 07:03 PM
I won't be surprised if that happens!! :) We need innovative stuff not lame concrete blocks,I am sure Bangy scores in this area.

But swalpa problem idhae....Few high rise projects in Mangalore are also proposed which are pretty innovative.The biggest thing going to happen in Mangalore/Karnataka - Celebration Township!

You wait and watch. This is the story of every city, at some point - wider buildings are considered no longer viable because of the scarcity of the land (dev gowda dynasty owns some). Slowly they will lift the cap on the number of floors to be built. There is not even space for parking lots, multi-level parking is considered to be viable and rightly so. Imagine if this happens in Mysore, you can kiss your patented dosa goodbye.

engineer.akash
November 29th, 2011, 07:26 PM
^^Yes,but Bangy has enough space to expand.Let's hope Bangy gets nice buildings,ITC corporate tower design has been changed,earlier one rocked :(

think-tank
November 29th, 2011, 07:45 PM
ITC corporate tower design has been changed,earlier one rocked :(

I thought it was already redesigned twice. Is this (http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/index.php?fuseaction=wanappln.projectview&upload_id=15092) how it looks now?

engineer.akash
November 29th, 2011, 07:47 PM
I thought it was already redesigned twice. Is this (http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/index.php?fuseaction=wanappln.projectview&upload_id=15092) how it looks now?

This the first one which came out,they have changed it now.Avinash posted its render in some therad.

think-tank
November 29th, 2011, 07:53 PM
This the first one which came out,they have changed it now.Avinash posted its render in some therad.

:ohno: you better not redesign under pressure when you get a project like this.

gentem
November 30th, 2011, 04:41 AM
Of course, Bangalore is the best in India. Mysore should come after that but then again- Mysore qualifies as greater bangalore so...or maybe it's because of the superficial tier 2 tag, former is more likely.

I'd be more interested to see the next year's results just to see if metro has influenced the ranking or the cleaner lakes perhaps- cleaner and greener always counts in these mad surveys. In any case ranking only goes up unless people believe in devolution- which am afraid some people do.

Mysore doesnt yet qualify as a city. Last census it missed million mark thanks to our politicians. Recently 2 malls/multiplex and kfc opened so little livable, McD yet to go there. But mysore got a futuristic ring road which can handle traffic upto 2030 :cheers:

Better we dont talk much about planning to plan things. At least site prep or some concrete poured then it is for real but all are air castles. Esp mangalorean ssc ppl are good in hollow claims :bash:


Bangalore (141st)
New Delhi (143rd)
Mumbai (144th)
Chennai (150th)
Kolkata (151st)
http://www.mercer.com/press-releases/quality-of-living-report-2011

Coming to mercer's ranking i think included namma metro factor already in this year's results. Those are private companies that dont close eyes deliberately like govt surveys, they will add weightage anticipating opening of metro. Surprisingly Hyderabad is missing :?

doc.aneesh
November 30th, 2011, 05:27 AM
I know Bangalore is the best in the country, but 141. Is still around the 40th percentile. I'm sure our city can easily breach the top 50 if our.civic authorities work a little more efficiently.

think-tank
November 30th, 2011, 05:32 AM
Coming to mercer's ranking i think included namma metro factor already in this year's results. Those are private companies that dont close eyes deliberately like govt surveys, they will add weightage anticipating opening of metro. Surprisingly Hyderabad is missing :?

Metro started only last month, this survey is based on last year's data.

engineer.akash
November 30th, 2011, 07:12 AM
I know Bangalore is the best in the country, but 141. Is still around the 40th percentile. I'm sure our city can easily breach the top 50 if our.civic authorities work a little more efficiently.

Yes man...BBMP needs good urban planners :)

gentem
November 30th, 2011, 07:16 AM
I know Bangalore is the best in the country, but 141. Is still around the 40th percentile. I'm sure our city can easily breach the top 50 if our.civic authorities work a little more efficiently.

No civic authority or planners can fix our traffic, which is beyond road capacity. Wait till metro phase 1 over fully to break into 50 percentile.

doc.aneesh
November 30th, 2011, 07:29 AM
No civic authority or planners can fix our traffic, which is beyond road capacity. Wait till metro phase 1 over fully to break into 50 percentile.

Believe me, I'm waiting alright:)

Well, traffic isn't the only thing that can be improved..
Garbage, poor quality of lakes (Some are cess pools), Poor roads
and most importantly WATER SUPPLY.
The East is suffering from chronic water shortage..

Thing is, in spite of all this, Bangalore is the best metro in the country. Shows how much worse the other cities are :)

gentem
November 30th, 2011, 07:34 AM
^^ Kavery phase 4 is under construction, it will solve much of water problem which i have nowhere seen. Many lakes are upgraded but it will take 3 years rain to fill them :ohno:

Traffic is the only problem, and metro is the only solution. All want to become traffic planner themselves :lol:

doc.aneesh
November 30th, 2011, 09:01 AM
^^ Kavery phase 4 is under construction, it will solve much of water problem which i have nowhere seen. Many lakes are upgraded but it will take 3 years rain to fill them :ohno:

Traffic is the only problem, and metro is the only solution. All want to become traffic planner themselves :lol:

Phase 4 is only till Hoodi.

Whitefield hardly gets water from BWSSB.. People mainly rely on Borewells (go up to 1000 ft!)

Also, New Thippasandra, Ramesh nagar, Basava nagar, Malleshpalya and all have no water at all..

How can you even say there are no water problems in the city?

engineer.akash
November 30th, 2011, 03:02 PM
Recently 2 malls/multiplex and kfc opened so little livable, McD yet to go there. But mysore got a futuristic ring road which can handle traffic upto 2030 :cheers:


Statement is pretty silly :lol: Livable only if we have KFC and Mcdonalds??:nuts: Grow up Kid!!

doc.aneesh
November 30th, 2011, 03:05 PM
Statement is pretty silly :lol: Livable only if we have KFC and Mcdonalds??:nuts: Grow up Kid!!

+1

doc.aneesh
November 30th, 2011, 03:18 PM
What happened to those 4 pillars that BDA planned to build on the major entry points of the city (similar to the Kempe gowda towers)

engineer.akash
November 30th, 2011, 03:23 PM
What happened to those 4 pillars that BDA planned to build on the major entry points of the city (similar to the Kempe gowda towers)

But where? Bidadi,nelmangala,Hosur??? :lol:

gentem
November 30th, 2011, 03:46 PM
Statement is pretty silly :lol: Livable only if we have KFC and Mcdonalds??:nuts: Grow up Kid!!

no point talking to blind people :nuts: mysore is tourist place thanks only to proximity of bangalore and nothing else. But least livable as of now :bash: second multiplex is hanging in fire, no sight of mcd or fine dining pizza hut or something

engineer.akash
November 30th, 2011, 03:52 PM
no point talking to blind people :nuts: mysore is tourist place thanks only to proximity of bangalore and nothing else. But least livable as of now :bash: second multiplex is hanging in fire, no sight of mcd or fine dining pizza hut or something

Third Multiplex in the form of 4 PVR Screens will be up in Garuda mall next Jan,btw Check this out

http://www.pizzahut.co.in/images/StoreLocator/map-top-bottom.gif

http://www.pizzahut.co.in/dinein_locator.php

http://www.pizzahut.co.in/store_locator_home.php?city_id=32

Let junta here decide who is being stupid.No point talking to arrogant fellows

No idiot will classify cities based on trivial things like MCD or KFC or pizza hut.Only superior idiots do.

doc.aneesh
November 30th, 2011, 03:52 PM
Here you go

http://i43.************/1z6hrm.jpg

http://i40.************/2nm685.jpg

engineer.akash
November 30th, 2011, 04:01 PM
Thanks for that doctor..Concept sounds amazing!!

doc.aneesh
November 30th, 2011, 04:07 PM
Thanks for that doctor..Concept sounds amazing!!

If it materializes it'll be fantastic.. and you're welcome

gentem
November 30th, 2011, 04:15 PM
Third Multiplex in the form of 4 PVR Screens will be up in Garuda mall next Jan,btw Check this out

http://www.pizzahut.co.in/dinein_locator.php

http://www.pizzahut.co.in/store_locator_home.php?city_id=32

Let junta here decide who is being stupid.No point talking to arrogant fellows

No idiot will classify cities based trivial things like MCD or KFC or pizza hut.Only superior idiots do.

Census has decided what is livable. Mercer has decided. If you want to get personal there are better ways :cheers: Im talking about open multiplexes, only drc cinemas is open, second not opened yet how can you even talk about third? No mall has food court yet, actually two half malls are there in the whole city :ohno: Thanks to think-tank for bringing mysore here every time

They made that new kempegowda tower in corporation circle that is enough. Its exclusivity should remain no point building it everywhere it will lose its heritage value

engineer.akash
November 30th, 2011, 04:23 PM
Census has decided what is livable. Mercer has decided. If you want to get personal there are better ways :cheers: Im talking about open multiplexes, only drc cinemas is open, second not opened yet how can you even talk about third? No mall has food court yet, actually two half malls are there in the city :ohno: Thanks to think-tank for bringing mysore here every time

(KFC has opened in Habitat mall) Just shows how ignorant you are.

So according to census Kanpur is a very livable city??Thanks to it great population figures.Speak some sense.

Don't bring in mercer or KFC or Mcd or malls or ur crap to prove Mysore isn't a better place.Mysore's solid Heritage is enough,we don't need malls or multiplexes to make Mysore a livable place.

You made a big fool of yourself by saying Mysore isn't having a Pizza Hut do some survey before you speak here.

MODS plz intervene here.

engineer.akash
November 30th, 2011, 04:34 PM
Census has decided what is livable.

This is how you contradict yourself:

In south, Kerala tops with 6 or 7 million plus cities.

According to census,gentem classifies them as livable

Next moment he brings in KFC,Pizza Hut etc as parameters then strikes down 6- Million plus cities of kerala terming them as non livable coz those 6 cities have no KFC or Pizza hut...

Your logic is too silly man :bash:

gentem
November 30th, 2011, 04:51 PM
^^ im talking about population growth rate in last ten years, not the absolute population. KFC is not called food court.

Rather you can say absolute numbers added to city in ten years. Bangalore grew by 35 lakhs, mysore by 2 lakhs, surat grew by 20 lakhs.

think-tank
November 30th, 2011, 05:56 PM
No mall has food court yet, actually two half malls are there in the whole city :ohno: Thanks to think-tank for bringing mysore here every time


You are welcome.

engineer.akash
November 30th, 2011, 06:30 PM
That is the Kempegowda tower...stands tall :cheers:


http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/3820/69671645.jpg

Courtesy Karnataka News

doc.aneesh
November 30th, 2011, 06:32 PM
^^Central College??

rmvdweller
November 30th, 2011, 06:39 PM
Mysore and Bangalore are in a different league altogether. Putting them in the same category for comparison is silly. Just the presence of KFC and McDonald's is not the criteria to say how good a city is. :nuts:

Personally, my dream is to go to Bandipur, start a farmhouse/resort, quit IT and go and live there in absolute solitude and isolation. Screw KFC and McDonald's :cheers:

engineer.akash
November 30th, 2011, 06:44 PM
Mysore and Bangalore are in a different league altogether. Putting them in the same category for comparison is silly. Just the presence of KFC and McDonald's is not the criteria to say how good a city is. :nuts:

Personally, my dream is to go to Bandipur, start a farmhouse/resort, quit IT and go and live there in absolute solitude and isolation. Screw KFC and McDonald's :cheers:

+1

Try dandeli forests,Braganza Ghats in Belgaum district.Karwar is also a nice place. :cheers:

gentem
November 30th, 2011, 06:56 PM
That is the Kempegowda tower...stands tall :cheers:


http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/3820/69671645.jpg

Courtesy Karnataka News

kfc is not food court and this is not kempegowda tower :doh:

http://www.karnatakanews.com/images_homepage/11nov30kpn65.jpg

engineer.akash
November 30th, 2011, 07:03 PM
kfc is not food court and this is not kempegowda tower :doh:
Yes that is not kempe gowda tower...Just got confused..

Similar to kempegowda tower..What is wrong in that? Such towers are planned at various entry points. I know that kempegowda tower is located in Lal bagh.

flyinfishjoe
November 30th, 2011, 11:32 PM
no point talking to blind people :nuts: mysore is tourist place thanks only to proximity of bangalore and nothing else. But least livable as of now :bash: second multiplex is hanging in fire, no sight of mcd or fine dining pizza hut or something
Pizza Hut?! Fine dining?! :shocked: :lol:

doc.aneesh
December 1st, 2011, 03:38 AM
Let me break this meaningless argument (it's better to ignore troublemakers)...


__________________________________________________________________________
Bangalore's USP: cool city, cool folk
Dec 1, 2011, 04.36AM IST [ HARISH BIJOOR ]


Let's talk the weather. This city has had many dog-tags to it. One of its pretty sobriquets has been 'air-conditioned' city.

The city may not be an air-conditioned one anymore, but it surely is an air-cooled one. For most part of the year, the weather is very livable and wanting-to-live-in.

Add to the weather the even more cool nature of the Kannadiga. I think we are one of the most tolerant species: all-embracing and welcoming to all. We hate fights and controversy. Jingoism is not for us. Everyone is welcome in Bangalore, and the welcome sign makes it an even more livable proposition. Bangalore is a mixed city as well. We are a 'Bisi Bele Baath' city of our own, with a healthy mix of every national and international ingredient in our midst.

Bangalore is today the capital of many a movement: end-to-end IT services industry, BPO industry, biotech, and nearly the capital of luxury retail, with our very own version of luxe street, if I may call Vittal Mallya Road that! Bangalore boasts of every cuisine there is to try -- Vietnamese, Korean, Thai or our very own 'raagi mudde and bas saaru'. There is every variety of food to eat and drink, the people are friendly and there is little to quibble about Bangalore, save the weather.

Bangalore is livable for the rich, the wannabe rich and poor alike. Just as you may buy a meal for all of Rs1,600 a plate, you can pick the best plate of sambar-rice and a 'bajji' or boiled egg for Rs 20 on the street. Believe it or not, the nutrition value is the same, and possibly the street fare tastes better than the 5-star dishes.

You can live in Bangalore the way you want to: you want a lifestyle of living in the cocoon of your home, your car, your golf course, your specialty gym, your club and your office, you can. If you wish to live the public life with the spanking new Namma Metro, the streetside darshini and your PG digs, you can! Bangalore allows you your space.

And how do we make it more livable? I believe Bangalore is a city that needs to strive to be a better place to be in. It is time for Bangalore to adopt an ethos that is more-embracing. It is time for Bangalore to go green and inclusive. "Green" and "inclusive" are global mantras which speak the language of the future. Bangalore has the potential of emerging a top-notch livable destination on both counts. The city has lots to do on the count of water-harvesting, for a start.

Time to invest in green practices that embrace every bit of our commercial activity as well. Time to look at CNG as a fuel for public vehicles. Time to look at curtailing vehicles on the road with a colour-coded day pass which will allow only 25% of the vehicle population of Bangalore to use the roads on selected days. Pollution levels need to be checked for Bangalore to be even more livable.

We have the very rich and the very poor. Time to make this an equal-footed city with investments from the rich and those who have much too much, to improve the mite of those who don't have enough. That will help us remain on top of the chart of the most livable cities in the world: looking forward to that list in 2021 then!

http://m.timesofindia.com/PDATOI/articleshow/10938532.cms

gentem
December 1st, 2011, 05:06 AM
Pizza Hut?! Fine dining?! :shocked: :lol:
we are talking about a livable city, where we need to go fine dining every week so it has to be affordable too :cheers:

Let me break this meaningless argument (it's better to ignore troublemakers)...


yea it is better to shut up and put up with such people

doc.aneesh
December 1st, 2011, 08:53 AM
^^ironic..

dino_srk
December 1st, 2011, 09:42 AM
India's most desirable cities

1. Chandigarh

2. Bengaluru

3. Pune

Chandigarh, Bengaluru and Pune have emerged as the three most desirable Indian cities to live in, reveals a survey conducted by real estate portal 99acres.com and YouGov, an international Internet-based market research firm.

India's most preferred cities for education

1. Chandigarh

2. Pune

3. Bengaluru

An in-depth study of the city ratings revealed some interesting insights on what citizens feel. Among the metros, only Bengaluru features among the top three desirable cities across most metrics.

Indian cities high on the health index

1. Chandigarh

2. Bengaluru

3. Delhi

In this survey on 'Most and Least desirable cities to live in India', Chandigarh with a mean rating of 4.43 (on a scale of 1 to 5) emerged on top of the list across most parameters that were taken into consideration while arriving at the overall desirability index.

India's safest cities

1. Chandigarh

2. Vadodara

3. Shimla

It was the preferred city for education, health, living conditions, safety, human rights, and recreation and to some extent for financial aspects, career opportunities and salary.

Indian cities best for human rights

1. Chandigarh

2. Shimla

3. Ahmedabad

Each of these elements plays a crucial role either directly or indirectly in shaping the overall quality of life.

Indian cities high on recreation

1. Chandigarh

2. Bengaluru

3. Pune

Barring career opportunities and salaries where Bengaluru, Mumbai and Delhi are top rated cities, Chandigarh has scored top ranks in all the other parameters

Indian cities with most attractive people

1. Mumbai

2. Bengaluru

3. Delhi

On the contrary, Varanasi, Agra, Patna, Kanpur and Meerut performed poorly across most of the parameters. Meerut, the lowest rated city scored only 2.8.

Indian cities high on financial opportunities

1. Bengaluru

2. Mumbai

3. Delhi

Delhi along with Patna, Kanpur and Meerut emerged as one of the most unsafe city in the country. Delhi ranked as the most unsafe metro and among the top four unsafe cities in the country.

India's least desirable cities to live in

1. Meeerut

2. Kanpur

3. Patna

Chandigarh, Vadodara and Shimla emerged as the safest cities in the country

Indian cities least preferred for education

1. Meerut

2. Agra

3. Patna

Delhi appears in the top five rankings in education, health and career prospects, and Mumbai features in the top five list for the quality of education, recreation and career prospects.

Indian cities low on the health index

1. Agra

2. Patna

3. Kanpur

Interestingly, Shimla has been rated among the top three cities in human and civil rights and safety parameters

Indian cities with not-too-good living conditions

1. Kanpur

2. Meerut

3. Varanasi

Meerut, Varanasi, Agra and Patna have been consistently rated with a low score across all parameters.

India's most unsafe cities

1. Meerut

2. Kanpur

3. Patna

When respondents were asked about their opinion on which city in India has the most attractive citizens then 24 per cent of them said Mumbai, 15 per cent said Bengaluru and 14 per cent said Delhi. Almost 11 per cent respondents said that Patna has the least attractive citizens.

Indian cities lowest on human rights

1. Meerut

2. Kanpur

3. Varanasi

Methodology: Fieldwork was conducted online between August 23 and September 28, 2011, by YouGov.

Indian cities low on recreation

1. Meerut

2. Kanpur

3. Patna

Respondents were drawn from the real estate portal's database and the total achieved sample was 6,161

Indian cities low on financial opportunities

1. Meerut

2. Agra

3. Varanasi

The sample is broadly representative of the online population of India.

Respondents were only asked to rate a particular city on a particular rating (excluding attractiveness of citizen), if they were residents or recent visitors to that particular city.

Source:http://www.rediff.com/business/slide-show/slide-show-1-indias-most-and-least-desirable-cities-to-live-in/20111129.htm

Euromast
December 1st, 2011, 09:53 AM
Nice to see my village topping the list, even though there are not much people from my village to brag about this on this forum

think-tank
December 1st, 2011, 10:53 AM
Most attractive people are in Bangalore. I am the living proof :lol:

doc.aneesh
December 1st, 2011, 11:32 AM
Chandigarh.... Well..
It's kinda misleading... Chandigarh is different Chandigarh Capital region is different...
They always consider Chandigarh city alone... Which is no doubt an amazingly well designed city..
Everything there is planned and perfect..

But.. If you consider the surrounding suburbs (notably Nayagaon) I'm sure all parameters will suffer.. because the keep Chandigarh clean and put all the garbage and muck in the neighbouring regions (under Haryana and Punjab)

Bangalore (under BBMP) Has a mix of all kinds of areas.. and still manages to come so high...

nandan_ks
December 1st, 2011, 11:38 AM
Most attractive people are in Bangalore. I am the living proof :lol:

:lol:

Euromast
December 1st, 2011, 11:50 AM
You just named surrounding areas which are villages and excluded panchkula and Mohali which are extension of chandigarh atleast in road/open space and market design. So chandigargh capital region is not bad.Chandigarh.... Well..
It's kinda misleading... Chandigarh is different Chandigarh Capital region is different...
They always consider Chandigarh city alone... Which is no doubt an amazingly well designed city..
Everything there is planned and perfect..

But.. If you consider the surrounding suburbs (notably Nayagaon) I'm sure all parameters will suffer.. because the keep Chandigarh clean and put all the garbage and muck in the neighbouring regions (under Haryana and Punjab)

Bangalore (under BBMP) Has a mix of all kinds of areas.. and still manages to come so high...

doc.aneesh
December 1st, 2011, 12:02 PM
You just named surrounding areas which are villages and excluded panchkula and Mohali which are extension of chandigarh atleast in road/open space and market design. So chandigargh capital region is not bad.

Dont take me wrong...
CCR by all standards is good... But excluding the suburbs will significantly enhance all parameters..
Even with the suburbs I'm sure it will score high (not as high though)

Euromast
December 1st, 2011, 12:04 PM
Yes, I agree because adminstration is different.

doc.aneesh
December 1st, 2011, 12:07 PM
Yes, I agree because adminstration is different.

Exactly because the administration is different...
Union territory = Central Govt.

No contradicting party in power, no petty politics between state and union... etc etc..

I'm really proud of Bangalore, In spite of so many many problems it still manages to be relatively good...

Of course, If you consider the top 6 cities in the country, None can beat Bangalore

Euromast
December 1st, 2011, 12:15 PM
yes thatz commendable.

gentem
December 1st, 2011, 12:36 PM
Exactly because the administration is different...
Union territory = Central Govt.

No contradicting party in power, no petty politics between state and union... etc etc..

I'm really proud of Bangalore, In spite of so many many problems it still manages to be relatively good...

Of course, If you consider the top 6 cities in the country, None can beat Bangalore

Your claim will soon be trashed by some forummers who will come from east and a GoD from far north :)

doc.aneesh
December 1st, 2011, 12:38 PM
Your claim will soon be trashed by some forummers who will come from east and a GoD from far north :)

I don't understand you... I'm not sure if I want to understand too:)

Euromast
December 1st, 2011, 12:51 PM
Yes GOd from north who will insert third rail into somebody's ass

rmvdweller
December 1st, 2011, 01:20 PM
Hmm... I have driven through Chandigarh multiple times - once on the way to Manali, once on the way to Ludhiana-Amritsar, and once more on the way to Manali. But I never got a chance to stay there and look around. I think I will do that next time I go to Delhi, in some months.

Euromast
December 1st, 2011, 01:31 PM
apart from central rule, CHD adminstration had very good initiatives in 1990's. Like traffic rules, helmet rules. I remember we used to run from police and they used chase us to our homes. separate cycle tracks and we had license like a smart card (ATM card) not like a book like all over india has or used to.Exactly because the administration is different...
Union territory = Central Govt.

No contradicting party in power, no petty politics between state and union... etc etc..

I'm really proud of Bangalore, In spite of so many many problems it still manages to be relatively good...

Of course, If you consider the top 6 cities in the country, None can beat Bangalore

gentem
December 1st, 2011, 02:35 PM
apart from central rule, CHD adminstration had very good initiatives in 1990's. Like traffic rules, helmet rules. I remember we used to run from police and they used chase us to our homes. separate cycle tracks and we had license like a smart card (ATM card) not like a book like all over india has or used to.

As for helmet rule bangalore has best rule in the world, not just india.. It is compulsory for drivers only :banana: So you dont have to maintain two helmets in your bike. Statistically speaking least injury happens in this rule because compulsory helmet for pillion will make people disobey the whole rule..

But namma mysore is better than chandigarh if you are talking about tier 2 cities ;)

Euromast
December 1st, 2011, 03:31 PM
I donot think so.

engineer.akash
December 1st, 2011, 04:50 PM
But namma mysore is better than chandigarh if you are talking about tier 2 cities ;)

Well I like both the cities...

Chandigarh is a modern Tier two city which is very well planned.Mysore is an old town which was planned centuries back.When it comes to Urban infrastructure Chandigarh rox...Mysore has a lot to learn.But when it comes to tourism, heritage and culture Mysore is miles ahead :cheers:

In cleanliness according to Urban ministry Mysore lagged Chandigarh by few points.:cheers: Both are beautiful cities ashtey.

Euromast
December 1st, 2011, 05:12 PM
I like Mysuru very much

doc.aneesh
December 1st, 2011, 05:14 PM
Well I like both the cities...

Chandigarh is a modern Tier two city which is very well planned.Mysore is an old town which was planned centuries back.When it comes to Urban infrastructure Chandigarh rox...Mysore has a lot to learn.But when it comes to tourism, heritage and culture Mysore is miles ahead :cheers:

In cleanliness according to Urban ministry Mysore lagged Chandigarh by few points.:cheers: Both are beautiful cities ashtey.

Mysore was just behind... Again, it was Mysore vs. Chandigarh city

If it was Mysore vs CCR, Mysore would have won i suppose :)

No offence Euromast

Euromast
December 1st, 2011, 05:18 PM
I never take offence Bhai

doc.aneesh
December 1st, 2011, 05:19 PM
^^ +1

cncity
December 1st, 2011, 06:57 PM
Mysore was just behind... Again, it was Mysore vs. Chandigarh city

If it was Mysore vs CCR, Mysore would have won i suppose :)

No offence Euromast

I dont think you have ever been to Chandigarh. Chandigarh is still better than all the tier 2 cities in India. I visited Chandigarh in 2006 and it was nicer back then even compared to Mysore now (was in Mysore in July this year).

Euromast
December 1st, 2011, 07:09 PM
sssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhh.......

MeMumbaikar
December 1st, 2011, 07:16 PM
they are both gay compared to mumbai

thats right its flame war time.

doc.aneesh
December 1st, 2011, 07:25 PM
I dont think you have ever been to Chandigarh. Chandigarh is still better than all the tier 2 cities in India. I visited Chandigarh in 2006 and it was nicer back then even compared to Mysore now (was in Mysore in July this year).

I have visited chandigarh... I love the place.. I was only talking about that cleanest city poll...I've already explained my opinion.. If you want to misinterpret it then go ahead... I don't give a damn

engineer.akash
December 1st, 2011, 07:43 PM
I have visited chandigarh... I love the place.. I was only talking about that cleanest city poll...I've already explained my opinion.. If you want to misinterpret it then go ahead... I don't give a damn

Cool yaar... :) I too have visited Chandigarh It is the best Tier two city in India.

Chandigarh looks very modern,with broad and clean roads,also it boasts of nice pedestrian infra.We cannot compare Mysore and Chandigarh.Mysore is an old town while Chandigarh is a new one.

Mysore is more like that Malgudi days town,people who like malgudi days kind of lifestyle for sure will be impressed with Mysore.People who love spacious homes with great urban infra will for sure get impressed with Chandigarh that is the difference.

Yes cleanest city poll put chandigarh ahead.Mysore has become a dust bowl,thanks to JNNURM water project.All major roads have been dug up.Mysore may take few more years to get sparkling clean.

engineer.akash
December 1st, 2011, 08:05 PM
Namma Cauvery song!!!

Kannada-Hindi Combo :cheers:

U37Ng_P7CTI

naveen_blr
December 2nd, 2011, 01:35 AM
Bagalkot new town was one to be planned like Chandigarh but Politicians had other plans :-(

But we should appreciate the current plan too its nice.

doc.aneesh
December 2nd, 2011, 04:54 AM
Bagalkot new town was one to be planned like Chandigarh but Politicians had other plans :-(

But we should appreciate the current plan too its nice.

What's wrong with bagalkot?

naveen_blr
December 2nd, 2011, 05:39 AM
What's wrong with bagalkot?

Bagalkot is not in the list above right?

gentem
December 2nd, 2011, 03:05 PM
I don't understand you... I'm not sure if I want to understand too:)

This doc looks geek :cheers: Uploading full metro newsletter and all. munnabhai mbbs??

doc.aneesh
December 2nd, 2011, 03:56 PM
^^ IGNORE

engineer.akash
December 2nd, 2011, 05:35 PM
Bagalkot new town was one to be planned like Chandigarh but Politicians had other plans :-(

But we should appreciate the current plan too its nice.

^^It's nice man :)

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/8075/bgaj.jpg

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/4105/bgad.jpg

What's wrong with bagalkot?

Bagalkot town has been relocated to Navanagar.Coz of submergence of old town by Almatti dam backwater.

gentem
December 2nd, 2011, 06:31 PM
Bangalore, best Indian city to live in (http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tiger-trail/entry/bangalore-best-indian-city-to-live-in)
Sharmila Ravinder
01 December 2011, 10:31 AM IST


http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tiger-trail/resource/sharmilaprofile.jpg

I never needed a global consulting firm like Mercer to validate the fact that Bangalore in undoubtedly the best city to live in India today. Nevertheless, it was pleasing to note that my home city Bangalore beat Delhi, Mumbai, Chennai and Calcutta in terms of quality of living and personal safety standards. Of course, on a worldwide basis, Bangalore ranks at a paltry 141 out of a survey conducted on 221 cities, and this low ranking was naturally expected as well. But, what makes Bangalore so livable and what aspects make it not so livable?

For starters, Bangalore’s weather is salubrious and affable for most part of the year. And the weather rules your mind. Would you step out to work on a hot humid day with a beatific smile, when the sun is blazing on your face with nefarious temperament as alkaline soaks through your clothing generously? The summers in Bangalore are not iniquitous as yet, albeit, there has been a shift in the weather pattern over the last few years with the mercury heading slightly more North than what it did the previous year. But, this is a global phenomenon and not peculiar to Bangalore alone. The traffic in Bangalore during the holiday season is at it’s worst, but, I would rather be stuck in traffic in good weather at least. And with more people making Bangalore their home, more trees being chopped down, more vehicles being birthed on suffocating roads and with more steel and concrete rising from the grounds, the air is dense. But which major Indian city isn’t suffocating?

Between 2001 and 2011, three million were added to Bangalore’s population, taking it to 8.5 million and making it the third most populous Indian city. The large influx is quite indicative of Bangalore’s economic growth in the last decade. No longer a headquarters to several large public sector undertakings alone, Bangalore wears the silicon-valley crown and contributes to around 35% of India’s IT exports. Bangalore also remains a hub for biotechnology. The biggest problem is that infrastructure has not grown at the same pace as it’s burgeoning population and three million new people have been fitted into the same claustrophobic space. The roads are being broadened at a snail’s pace, at a turtle’s pace Bangalore got a Metro (that currently feeds a 6.7km line!) and at a sloth’s pace flyovers / expressways are being built. But, at least something is moving, there appears to be light at the end of a very dark tunnel and even if it takes a few decades to build a tunnel in this city!

And thankfully, Bangalore got a new international airport in May 2008 after a decade long postponement. My memories from the charming old HAL airport are still fresh. At the stroke of the midnight hour, after a majority of the international flights would descend into Bangalore’s airspace, a few hundred passengers would be tripping over each other to get their luggage from one creaky carousel and then be welcomed by a pack of over friendly dogs outside the terminal who were whimsical about when to rip your legs off. The road to get to the new international airport at Devanahalli was quite good, but now I find it being trenched up again to accommodate an elevated expressway and slowing down traffic miserably. Digging being a favorite pastime and why was this not thought of in 2008 or a bit earlier!

But having said all this, Bangalore is charming. It is still a lot greener than other cities and bears a very cosmopolitan outlook.There are still nagging problems in the real estate sector but people are by and large friendly, well spoken and there are enough of malls and pubs to idle your time away in, until 11 pm or thereabouts! I enjoy spending my Christmas in Bangalore and basking in its old world charm that is still sporadically present. The sound of reverberating church bells from St Francis Xavier Cathedral fill the foggy skies, the smell of rich plum cakes tantalizes the senses and Santa Clause singing ‘jingle bells’ in a thick Malayalam accent fills the mall space. I satiate my senses with the sights and sounds of Bangalore and to the smell of rich Udupi filter coffee, that filters out all that needs to, making Bangalore India’s most livable city.

skysher
December 2nd, 2011, 09:00 PM
I am a proud Mumbaikar, so Bangalore is only my second favourite city :). I get the feeling that Bangalore, despite its emergence as a much talked about city internationally, has limited itself to modest ambitions.

Of course, I don't want to take anything away from Bangalore's well deserved current position as India's most liveable city. But most Bangaloreans seem content with being something big in India. I understand the pride that they feel about Bangalore's new-found importance for India, surpassing other metros after decades of tier-two classification. But I feel it is time to ask for more as global citizens. Seriously, the 141st position in the world is not something for an international citizen to be proud of.

I see examples of less-ambitious projects all over Bangalore. The metro implementation timeline is painfully slow for the pace of the people. Most elevated highways are four-lane (an archaic concept internationally), even when my city Mumbai has scrapped them for six/eight-lanes on all new projects. The city relies too much on IT and services. Industries go bust, and no city should rely too much on one for its revenue. Notice what's happening in London due to over-reliance on finance? There is no concerted effort to leverage Bangalore's leadership position in science and innovation in India. While institutes like IISC get some of the best brains, there isn't the infrastructure or research projects to keep the likes of Pranav Mistry here. Bangalore is still a service provider, not a global innovation engine like the Californian Silicon Valley.

I expect a lot from Bangalore, as I do from my own city Mumbai. Like all Indian cities, Bangalore's success is part planned, but largely accidental. It's time to turn that around. In the process, Bangalore can potentially set a new international benchmark that other Indian cities can aspire to. My best wishes.

engineer.akash
December 2nd, 2011, 09:07 PM
^^I agree with only few of your points.

Bangalore is the technology hub of India,it is pretty diversified.Open your eyes you will see a lot IT/Auto/defence/Aerospace/Biotech/Agro/Design......Bangalore is the best simply!!! :cheers:

:goodbye:

engineer.akash
December 2nd, 2011, 09:26 PM
Bangalore Wins an award

http://www.deccanheraldepaper.com/pdf/2011/12/03/20111203a_003100004.jpg

skysher
December 2nd, 2011, 09:28 PM
^^ Maybe for Indian standards. My whole point was about global standing, and you seem to miss that.

gentem
December 3rd, 2011, 04:10 AM
I am a proud Mumbaikar, so Bangalore is only my second favourite city :). I get the feeling that Bangalore, despite its emergence as a much talked about city internationally, has limited itself to modest ambitions.

Of course, I don't want to take anything away from Bangalore's well deserved current position as India's most liveable city. But most Bangaloreans seem content with being something big in India. I understand the pride that they feel about Bangalore's new-found importance for India, surpassing other metros after decades of tier-two classification. But I feel it is time to ask for more as global citizens. Seriously, the 141st position in the world is not something for an international citizen to be proud of.

I see examples of less-ambitious projects all over Bangalore. The metro implementation timeline is painfully slow for the pace of the people. Most elevated highways are four-lane (an archaic concept internationally), even when my city Mumbai has scrapped them for six/eight-lanes on all new projects. The city relies too much on IT and services. Industries go bust, and no city should rely too much on one for its revenue. Notice what's happening in London due to over-reliance on finance? There is no concerted effort to leverage Bangalore's leadership position in science and innovation in India. While institutes like IISC get some of the best brains, there isn't the infrastructure or research projects to keep the likes of Pranav Mistry here. Bangalore is still a service provider, not a global innovation engine like the Californian Silicon Valley.

I expect a lot from Bangalore, as I do from my own city Mumbai. Like all Indian cities, Bangalore's success in part planned, but largely accidental. It's time to turn that around. In the process, Bangalore can potentially set a new international benchmark that other Indian cities can aspire to. My best wishes.

I think mercer manipulated ranking a bit to keep bangalore close to other indian cities, by demoting it by few notches.

we building 6 lane elevated to airport. 4 lane ones will become better when we ban two wheelers on it

if an industry goes bust it will go down slowly not suddenly. doesn't mumbai rely on finance?
mumbai needs to improve local trains, it needs escalators in major railway stations for fast movement of commuters

doc.aneesh
December 3rd, 2011, 04:35 AM
@skysher - Agree...
But Bangalore doesn't entirely depend on IT.. It's just a major contributor

skysher
December 3rd, 2011, 06:30 AM
I think mercer manipulated ranking a bit to keep bangalore close to other indian cities, by demoting it by few notches.

... doesn't mumbai rely on finance?
mumbai needs to improve local trains, it needs escalators in major railway stations for fast movement of commuters

lol...:lol: I admire your unflinching patriotism for your city. But I don't see any motive for an international consultancy to rank a city on anything apart from its merits, especially if it doesn't let emotion cloud its judgement.

Yes, Mumbai has infra problems too. I don't deny that. And I don't wanna make this a Mumbai v/s Bangalore argument. They are two completely different kinds of cities, and as I said Bangalore is my second home. But just to clarify, Mumbai may be sensationally called "the financial capital", but it doesn't rely too much on finance. Less than 6% of Mumbai's workforce directly or indirectly is supported by the financial sector.

But B'lore's over 3 million people (35% of pop?) directly or indirectly rely on the IT and BPO sectors (both PwC figures), and you see the problem. Bangalore has other industries, but none of them dominates or counter balances IT. That is a risk for the city, and hence all my suggestions in the last post. Anyway, I am just encouraging better things for Bangalore, and hoping that it aspires for international goals. It already has some lead over other Indian cities in innovation. Hopefully, it'll pick up on it and reduce dependence on scale-based IT/ITES/BPO.

think-tank
December 3rd, 2011, 07:19 AM
The misconception about Bangalore is that it is the IT capital of India and relies heavily on BPO. The truth is, it isn't just IT but aviation, automobile and space too- where do you find that in other cities?. Bangalore accommodates everyone, unlike other cities in India.

Vicvin86
December 3rd, 2011, 07:25 AM
The misconception about Bangalore is that it is the IT capital of India and relies heavily on BPO. The truth is, it isn't just IT but aviation, automobile and space too- where do you find that in other cities?. Bangalore accommodates everyone, unlike other cities in India.
Its also a misconception....

Indiadreams
December 3rd, 2011, 07:42 AM
But just to clarify, Mumbai may be sensationally called "the financial capital", but it doesn't rely on finance. Less than 6% of Mumbai's workforce directly or indirectly is supported by the financial sector.

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For once, I wouldn't say that media doesn't make it sensational here. Mumbai, undoubtedly, is the financial and entertainment capital of India with more than 70% market share in both these sectors (yes i am including the whole Indian entertainment industry - Chennai, Hyd and Delhi being the other major hubs). It is just that Mumbai has SIGNIFICANT presence in every sector - pharamceuticals, FMCG, telecom, oil & gas, ports, energy, power, diamonds, chemicals, iron & steel, IT, hardware etc- that the proportion of finance get sreduced. Even in IT, Mumbai would have around 10 % market share , which is significant, when Banagalore - the IT capital has just 33% market share.

But I agree that Media generally sensationalises things. When Mercer says that all Indian cities are really shit holes clubbing it under the range of 140-150, the media creates a big story out of it. It doesnt matter for a foreigner whether the city is ranked at 140 or 150, but almost all the Indian cities generally have similar problems and is not worth differentiating.

PS: I dont believe in these perceptional surveys. Inspite of low rankings of Mumbai even within the country-based surveys, the econmic indiactors always say a different story.Probably, the perception stories could not go beyond the regular road infrastructure (not even water and power) to find whether the city is liveable or good to do business. Even in IT, Mumbai has a very good growth rate compared to other cities.

skysher
December 3rd, 2011, 08:17 AM
^^ I agree with everything you've said. I was just making the point that despite attracting a lot of market share of India's finance industry, the Mumbai economy doesn't rely too much on finance alone. Someone earlier drew the incorrect conclusion that because Mumbai is India's financial capital, it relies too much on the financial services industry. My point was that although Mumbai's finance industry is much larger than anywhere else in India, there are other equally large industries (trade, logistics, ship building/recycling, construction, energy, consumer goods, heavy vehicles, diamonds, commodities, autoparts, heavy engineering...) that more than offset its reliance on finance for employing its workforce. On the contrary, I was just expressing concern about Blore's unchecked over-reliance on IT for jobs. Hope this is clear :)

skysher
December 3rd, 2011, 08:38 AM
The misconception about Bangalore is that it is the IT capital of India and relies heavily on BPO. The truth is, it isn't just IT but aviation, automobile and space too- where do you find that in other cities?. Bangalore accommodates everyone, unlike other cities in India.

Again, it's not about "accommodating". It's about balancing. My earlier posts were about the enormous workforce in Bangalore (scarily big) that relies directly or indirectly on one industry- IT. I am not saying that you don't have other industries. Every city has multiple industries. But does the aviation,aerospace or even auto industry in Bangalore employ anywhere close to what IT does? That is where the trouble lies. Bangalore needs to diversify and strengthen other industries while simultaneously leveraging its core competency (technology base) to innovate, instead of merely providing replicable services. Anyway, I hope some people see the point.

gentem
December 3rd, 2011, 10:34 AM
lol...:lol: I admire your unflinching patriotism for your city. But I don't see any motive for an international consultancy to rank a city on anything apart from its merits, especially if it doesn't let emotion cloud its judgement.

Yes, Mumbai has infra problems too. I don't deny that. And I don't wanna make this a Mumbai v/s Bangalore argument. They are two completely different kinds of cities, and as I said Bangalore is my second home. But just to clarify, Mumbai may be sensationally called "the financial capital", but it doesn't rely too much on finance. Less than 6% of Mumbai's workforce directly or indirectly is supported by the financial sector.

But B'lore's over 3 million people (35% of pop?) directly or indirectly rely on the IT and BPO sectors (both PwC figures), and you see the problem. Bangalore has other industries, but none of them dominates or counter balances IT. That is a risk for the city, and hence all my suggestions in the last post. Anyway, I am just encouraging better things for Bangalore, and hoping that it aspires for international goals. It already has some lead over other Indian cities in innovation. Hopefully, it'll pick up on it and reduce dependence on scale-based IT/ITES/BPO.

You are basically wrong in 6% and 35% mainly because they are from different sources. One includes secondary jobs and other dont. Misconception. Bangalore has most other services other than finance.

244 kids rescued from beggary biz across B’lore (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bangalore/244-kids-rescued-from-beggary-biz-across-Blore/articleshow/10965694.cms)
TNN | Dec 3, 2011, 07.12AM IST
BANGALORE: The business of beggary, which uses children as bait, is thriving in the city. In a drive against children being abused and forced into begging, 190 children and 54 infants were rescued from the roads on Friday.

Personnel from seven NGOs and several government departments, and special juvenile police officers swooped down on several places frequented by child beggars.

"We found there was a racket thriving in the city using children for begging. We will continue the efforts till all child beggars are rescued," a special police officer said.

Joint commissioner of police (west) Pranob Mohanty told TOI that the city-wide crackdown was to rescue children from organized gangs running the "business of beggary".

He said the departments of women and child development and social welfare, child welfare committee (CWC), Child helpline and BBMP, among some other government agencies were involved in the drive. NGOs like Bosco, ECHO, APSA, Just and Care, OSS and Rescue were also part of the raid.

Mohanty said a police inspector had been designated to act as a special juvenile officer in each of the seven divisions of city police. Friday's raid was headed by assistant commissioner of police SV Guled of the central crime branch. He said the children rescued by the team are with the Child Welfare Committee (CWC) which will look into each individual case as children rescued cannot be kept at the police stations.

"If we find any gang using them for begging, we will take further action. We are yet to identify the culprits in the racket. This is only a beginning. There will be some more raids in future," he said.

http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Repository/getimage.dll?path=TOIBG/2011/12/03/4/Img/Pc0041600.jpg

WHAT PROMPTED THE CRACKDOWN
Agirl child begging daily at a busy intersection in the city had caught a police officer’s attention. The girl vanished and the officer was left wondering what happened to her.
Two months later, the girl reappeared at the same spot with a bowl in her hand. She had lost an arm.
The police officer, who does not wish to be identified, began looking into the girl’s case and found out that she was the victim of the business of beggary in the city. “Apparently, an organized gang which employed her had severed her arm,” said the officer. Friday’s raid was the result of the officer’s follow-up action.

MeMumbaikar
December 3rd, 2011, 11:58 AM
I dont think bangalore has to worry about being IT centric. (which it is despite what anybody says). Its the driver.

The way i see it IT will be a key part of the city for atleast the next 20 years. In that time i am sure other industries will emerge. IF any sector is more than 10% of a cities economy then the city is dependent on it.)

As far as the mercer index goes, I read through it in great detail. Bangalore fared badly when it came to water. I think if you improve water supply there will be a huge boost for the city. Bangalore does well when it comes to pollution etc. Mumbai's rank was affected badly due to terrorism. The mercer survey is was expats. With safety being at premium. I am sure in the next survey Tehran will be at the bottom due to political/security issues as will cities like Cairo.

MeMumbaikar
December 3rd, 2011, 12:13 PM
and as far as mumbai goes,

Construction will probably be the leading sector. Most black or informal money in India ends up in Mumbai with real estate purchases. Most NRI's want a flat or apartment in mumbai. So as a city Mumbai is heavily dependent on construction. I am sure that if the black economy is tamed it will affect Mumbai's prospects. But it is the current mass employer.


After construction the oil wells of Bombay High and heavy refining by ONGC take second place. Though not adding many jobs, it still does add a lot of value especially with oil prices today.

Followed by finance and supporting services like accountancy and the fact that many corporate headquarters are in mumbai. If they float the rupee etc this sector will in time (2 decades) become the driver for the city. As of now , no.


IT /BPO follows with IT being especially strong in Navi mumbai and outlaying regions of Thane etc.

Following that the next mass employer is the docks. Both commercial and naval. Mazgaon docks still build a lot of the navy's ships. Plus the ports too still get plenty of cargo.

Followed by Tourism. Mumbai does attract plenty of tourists. Many NRI's still have family in Mumbai.

These are the major sectors in terms of employing people and what they add to the economy.



Historically Mumbai's leading sector has been textiles. It was a mass employer. Dont think the city has replaced it to date. But mumbai as a city became rich and important due to textiles. Even the stock market traders first met to trade about textiles. Just before independence i do believe Kolkata stock exchange and mumbai stock exchange were about the same size and importance.

think-tank
December 3rd, 2011, 12:16 PM
Again, it's not about "accommodating". It's about balancing. My earlier posts were about the enormous workforce in Bangalore (scarily big) that relies directly or indirectly on one industry- IT. I am not saying that you don't have other industries. Every city has multiple industries. But does the aviation,aerospace or even auto industry in Bangalore employ anywhere close to what IT does? That is where the trouble lies. Bangalore needs to diversify and strengthen other industries while simultaneously leveraging its core competency (technology base) to innovate, instead of merely providing replicable services. Anyway, I hope some people see the point.

Whatever makes you think other industries will remain stagnant? There are more investments in aerospace in Bangalore than anywhere else in India. We also have aerospace research, bio-tech centers as well. India is a developing economy, trends change overtime- IT has had enough time to mature- opportunities for graduates and engineers. Other industries weren't so mature enough- that's why you saw brain drain in those sectors. But thanks to the liberalization - we are seeing companies like Boeing setting up centers here.

MeMumbaikar
December 3rd, 2011, 12:18 PM
Whatever makes you think other industries will remain stagnant? There are more investments in aerospace in Bangalore than anywhere else in India. We also have aerospace research, bio-tech centers as well. India is a developing economy, trends change overtime- IT has had enough time to mature- opportunities for graduates and engineers. Other industries weren't so mature enough- that's why you saw brain drain in those sectors. But thanks to the liberalization - we are seeing companies like Boeing setting up centers here.


exactly.

Bangalore or any indian city does not have anything to fear for the next 20 years as India as a nation is on the up and will be for another 20 years.


Dont worry about reliance on any one industry for now.

skysher
December 3rd, 2011, 03:03 PM
You are basically wrong in 6% and 35% mainly because they are from different sources. One includes secondary jobs and other dont. Misconception. Bangalore has most other services other than finance.

Sorry, they are both from the same source, and include secondary jobs. It mustn't be surprising for you because Mumbai has a lot of low and mid-skilled workers, completely disassociated from finance...

Hope this discussion moves ahead from just meaningless chest-banging. Frankly, I distrust any person/place/organisation that refuses to introspect and acknowledge fallacies.

I agree with MeMumbaikar, there is no need to panic today. Bangalore can continue to let IT dominate for some 15-20 years. But after that it's a ticking time bomb if most of the population still depends on it. And that is why change needs to start today. Structural changes in the economy take decades to materialise, and I am sure the enterprising people of Bangalore will make it happen. And I am not even calling for a complete shift from IT; just shift from labour-intensive non-differentiable services (which can easily fly off to Manila/Guangzhou/Saigon) to more differentiable, unique and innovative products/services. Now you see why Bangalore has to lead the way in this. Not just because it has the edge over other cities, but it's the way to survive globally.

gentem
December 3rd, 2011, 03:29 PM
Sorry, they are both from the same source, and include secondary jobs. I converted the figures to percentages. So I am out of this discussion if it's all just chest-banging. My best wishes anyway.

your wish. if you say all from same source then why dont you quote it here?

skysher
December 3rd, 2011, 03:44 PM
your wish. if you say all from same source then why dont you quote it here?

They are all sourced from PwC, their last four City of Opportunity and Economic Outlook reports. Remember, 6% of Mumbai is still 1.5 million people in finance/related. Whereas 3 million in IT/related is a third of Bangalore. I hope the percentages are clearer.

skysher
December 3rd, 2011, 04:59 PM
Whatever makes you think other industries will remain stagnant? There are more investments in aerospace in Bangalore than anywhere else in India. We also have aerospace research, bio-tech centers as well. India is a developing economy, trends change overtime- IT has had enough time to mature- opportunities for graduates and engineers. Other industries weren't so mature enough- that's why you saw brain drain in those sectors. But thanks to the liberalization - we are seeing companies like Boeing setting up centers here.


Of course, I never said that other industries will not mature. I was just pointing out to an anomaly (over-reliance on IT) that some people here seemed to blatantly deny. I have great hopes for B'lore. I just want it to be more ambitious and concerted in its efforts to become a global city, instead of comparing itself just with other Indian cities. I wish Bangalore all the best :)

engineer.akash
December 3rd, 2011, 06:52 PM
Of course, I never said that other industries will not mature. I was just pointing out to an anomaly (over-reliance on IT) that some people here seemed to blatantly deny. I have great hopes for B'lore. I just want it to be more ambitious and concerted in its efforts to become a global city, instead of comparing itself just with other Indian cities. I wish Bangalore all the best :)

What ever be your field you will find a decent job in Bangaluru...simple!!That puts Bangaluru on top...I am proud of Bangaluru,beats mumbai hands hands down when it comes to Tech jobs :banana:

think-tank
December 3rd, 2011, 07:57 PM
What ever be your field you will find a decent job in Bangaluru...simple!!That puts Bangaluru on top...I am proud of Bangaluru,beats mumbai hands hands down when it comes to Tech jobs :banana:

Yup :banana:

Still, mumbai has the coastline advantage, so that's one thing to brag. All we have is lakes, that's 72 of them under cleaning process.

nandan_ks
December 3rd, 2011, 08:09 PM
:banana:

MeMumbaikar
December 3rd, 2011, 08:09 PM
What ever be your field you will find a decent job in Bangaluru...simple!!That puts Bangaluru on top...I am proud of Bangaluru,beats mumbai hands hands down when it comes to Tech jobs :banana:

no it does not......:cheers::cheers:

Yagya
December 3rd, 2011, 08:14 PM
:banana: namma bangaluru :banana:

engineer.akash
December 3rd, 2011, 08:23 PM
^^ Yes :cheers:

:banana:

Euromast
December 3rd, 2011, 08:32 PM
:banana2:

gentem
December 4th, 2011, 06:58 PM
presenting you the chartbuster track of 2011:

bwZSgv7q4zw

this song sooper.. naan nodok barthin ninna :rofl:

engineer.akash
December 4th, 2011, 07:06 PM
^^This isn't great...There are better ones....Infact that Hale hubli bus stand song is better

engineer.akash
December 4th, 2011, 07:10 PM
OWZOuimYz-Q&feature=related

^^ Vijay fits well for these rural type songs...It all started with Duniya vijay :lol:

KSRTC rocks!! and Hubli rocks!!

engineer.akash
December 4th, 2011, 07:37 PM
Sad that such music directors are sidelined by stupid kannada movie industry

Listen to his guitar bit :cheers:

vMpo1HKQf7I

gentem
December 5th, 2011, 03:49 AM
^^This isn't great...There are better ones....Infact that Hale hubli bus stand song is better

that hale hubli song only starting verses are good, rest of the stanzas are not upto mark :ohno:

Karnataka high court on wikipedia front page picture of the day:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

Today's featured picture
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/High_Court_of_Karnataka%2C_Bangalore_MMK.jpg/550px-High_Court_of_Karnataka%2C_Bangalore_MMK.jpg
The Karnataka High Court, the High Court of the Indian state of Karnataka, is housed in a building named Attara Kacheri, meaning "eighteen offices". It is a two-storey building, red in colour and is built in the neoclassical style. The name comes from the eighteen departments of the general and revenue secretariat of the Mysore government that were moved here from their crowded premises in Tipu Sultan's summer palace.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:POTD/2011-12-05

Fugu Gion
December 5th, 2011, 03:37 PM
Bangalore, best Indian city to live in (http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tiger-trail/entry/bangalore-best-indian-city-to-live-in)
Sharmila Ravinder
01 December 2011, 10:31 AM IST

But you need see this link too....

http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2011-11-29/news/30454375_1_global-list-living-survey-indian-cities

NEW DELHI: Pipping past the four metro cities of New Delhi, Mumbai, Kolkata and Chennai, the southern technology hub Bangalore has emerged as the best city to live in India, a global survey said today.

Despite its top Indian ranking, Bangalore's worldwide rank is very low at 141st position in a list of 221 cities globally in terms of standard of living, compiled by the 'Quality of Living Survey - Worldwide Rankings, 2011' by the global HR (human resources) consultancy major Mercer.

Vienna has been ranked as the world's best city to live in on the global list, which has five Indian cities -- Bangalore (141st), New Delhi (143rd), Mumbai (144th), Chennai (150th) and Kolkata (151st).

Globally, Vienna is followed by Zurich, Auckland, Munich, Dusseldorf, Vancouver, Frankfurt, Geneva, Copenhagen and Bern among the top-ranked cities in terms of quality of living, Mercer said.

In another list of the world's best cities in terms of personal safety standards, Luxembourg has been placed on the top, followed by Bern, Helsinki, Zurich, Vienna, Geneva and Stockholm.

[B]On this list, Indian cities have been ranked a little better, as Bangalore has got 117th place, New Delhi and Kolkata shared the 127th position, Mumbai is at 142 and Chennai is placed at 108th

Bangalore has been ranked as the best Indian city both in terms of quality of living and the personal safety standards.

The personal safety ranking has been on measures of internal stability, crime levels, law enforcement effectiveness and host-country's international relations

I seriously have a doubt now - which is better ranked?

Vicvin86
December 5th, 2011, 05:55 PM
http://www.mercer.com/press-releases/quality-of-living-report-2011

One ranking is for Quality of living and and the other is for personal safety.

chennaidesi
December 5th, 2011, 06:13 PM
All these rankings means nothing. The best suburbs of best indian cities at this point of time cannot match a medium sized US cities in terms of quality of life. I am not commenting on opportunity etc. From that respect I feel really sorry for the people living there.

gentem
December 5th, 2011, 06:24 PM
All these rankings means nothing. The best suburbs of best indian cities at this point of time cannot match a medium sized US cities in terms of quality of life. I am not commenting on opportunity etc. From that respect I feel really sorry for the people living there.

Now that there is some ambiguity in report, these rankings means nothing :bash: But for an indian, living in an indian city is better. For a us guy a us city is better because it offers better social life. From that respect I feel really sorry for indians living in US cities :ohno: If i were not kannadiga but indian then i would have liked mumbai

naveen_blr
December 5th, 2011, 06:52 PM
Now that there is some ambiguity in report, these rankings means nothing :bash: But for an indian, living in an indian city is better. For a us guy a us city is better because it offers better social life. From that respect I feel really sorry for indians living in US cities :ohno: If i were not kannadiga but indian then i would have liked mumbai

Being a Kannadiga in Blr & Mumbai makes no difference , i stay in the suburbs and i know - its more tamil & telugu than anything even autos/vendors or neighbours - It does make a difference when it comes to commute with everyone whom u want to show u are a local :-P

engineer.akash
December 5th, 2011, 07:23 PM
But for an indian, living in an indian city is better.

+1 Sensible stuff

engineer.akash
December 5th, 2011, 07:26 PM
Why is fever 104 airing with love from russia?Who is shwetha? :) Russia has always inspired me...I am seriously in love with that stuff

chennaidesi
December 5th, 2011, 07:38 PM
^^ Im quoting your own article

if chennai is 108 then how bangalore can be best in both?? there is a contradiction in that report by PTI so we told print mistake

next time be more careful while making personal comments
http://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2011/12/01/indian-cities-make-little-progress-on-quality-of-living-survey/

Indian cities haven’t made much progress on Mercer’s quality of living scale, ranking nearly the same as they did last year. The annual survey — conducted by the consulting firm between September and November — ranked 221 of the world’s cities on the basis of quality of living. The parameters of the survey include public services, medical care, recreation facilities and natural environment.

The survey is aimed at expatriates as its goal is to “help companies assess how they can compensate employees in terms of salary, while sending them to other countries which may have lower quality of living,” said Slagin Parakatil, senior researcher at Mercer.

Among Indian cities, Bangalore dropped by one rank from last year, while Kolkata has gone down six places. Chennai has fared a little better this time, going up three places. Both New Delhi and Mumbai have maintained their spots.

Indian cities still rank low on the list. Even the likes of Gaborone in Botswana and Lusaka of Zamibia are higher than India’s top-ranked city, Bangalore, which occupies a rather lowly 141st place. And despite its infamous sinkholes and vulnerability to natural disasters, 142nd placed Guatemala City beats New Delhi, Mumbai, Chennai and Kolkata, ranked 143, 144, 150 and 151, respectively.

At least in terms of personal safety, Indian cities fared slightly better, with Chennai ranked at 108, almost 50 places above its position in the quality of life list. Personal safety is measured through parameters such as stability in governance, effectiveness of law enforcement and crime rates. Bangalore at 117 and Kolkata and New Delhi, tied in 127th place, also rank better in this list. However, Mumbai was lurking way down at 142. Mr. Parakatil says these low rankings could be attributed to the risk of terrorist attacks and whether expats were specifically targeted in such attacks.

In a couple of years, Mercer may consider more Indian cities for the ranking, based on requests from their clients, who have expanded their operations to cities like Hyderabad, Pune, Ahmedabad and Baroda, said Mr. Parakatil.

According to the survey, Indian cities are safer than most others in South Asia. Sri Lanka’s capital Colombo is down in 189th place, while Dhaka in Bangladesh is ranked 200 and Pakistan’s Islamabad and Lahore are joint 209th and Karachi is 216th. Iraq’s capital Baghdad is the lowest-ranked in terms of personal safety.

But Indian cities are still far behind China’s Shanghai and Beijing, which are tied at 94th on the personal safety rankings. Still, not all cities in China top India in these lists. Shenzhen is ranked 112th in terms of personal safety, below Chennai.

Another reason for Asian cities ranking so low on the personal safety rankings is their vulnerability to natural disasters and the spread of disease, Mr. Parakatil said.

Overall, Baghdad was ranked the lowest in both the rankings, while Austria’s Vienna topped the quality of living rankings and Luxembourg topped the personal safety ranking.

This report has some more information about personal safety.
Anyhow I still feel bad for people living in top neighbourhoods of our country(like Adyar, Jayanagar,Bandra etc) below a medium sized city in developed countries.

gentem
December 5th, 2011, 07:43 PM
THE GUIDE WHO LOVED BANGALORE (http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/Scripting/ArticleWin.asp?From=Archive&Source=Page&Skin=TOINEW&BaseHref=TOIBG/2011/12/05&PageLabel=2&EntityId=Ar00200&ViewMode=HTML)
TIMES NEWS NETWORK

As the song Panna ki tamanna hai from Heera Panna comes on TV, you can see Dev Anand and Zeenat Aman enacting the duet on the outskirts of namma Bengaluru. Parts of the movie were shot here. The legend's connect to Karnataka dates back to the Guide days.
His love for the city and its people in his own words: “I am totally overwhelmed. Maybe I'll come back here to make a film.” The occasion was his felicitation here in January 2008.
“It is marvellous. It is prestigious. Thank you for your love and generosity which has made me fly all the way from Mumbai to be with you,” he had said after receiving the ‘Anmol Ratan, Lifetime Achievement Award’. “I adore Bangalore as much as I admire Bangaloreans. Even in the world, they are much admired. When people in California called it Silicon city of India, I felt proud of my country,” he had said.
He had recalled his trip to Mysore to convince writer R K Narayan on making a film version of his novel Guide: “That trip is still green in my memory.”
“As soon as he arrived, people were on their feet, giving a thunderous applause. In his inspirational speech, he spoke on a lot of things, mainly on Guide,” Karnataka Film Chamber of Commerce secretary V H Suresh recalls.
Says Suresh: “At a function in the mid-90s, asked if he would act in Kannada, the actor had replied, ‘Why not? I am still young. If a good script comes my way, I will surely do’.”
During the glorious days of Rajesh Khanna, the then superstar of Indian cinema, Dev Anand held his own. Veteran Kannada director KSL Swamy recounts an interesting interaction the actor had with journalists while shooting for Heera Panna in Bangalore. He reminisces: “One journalist asked him about what he felt about the Rajesh Khanna wave which had engulfed the nation, he had replied, ‘Ask me this after 10 years’.”
“I have met him a couple of times in Bangalore and once in Mumbai. I was editing and dubbing for my film at his studio in Mumbai. He wanted to know the procedures of shooting in the USA. I gave him some details and told him how the local mayor was important. He noted down the details and told me that he would meet me after returning from the USA,” Swamy reminisces.
About Guide, Swamy says: “Everybody thought his career would end with the film. He had a huge fan following in Bangalore. I remember people praying for the movie’s success.”
And the movie went on to become a classic.

http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Repository/getimage.dll?path=TOIBG/2011/12/05/2/Img/Pc0021000.jpg
I ADORE BANGALORE AS MUCH AS I ADMIRE BANGALOREANS. WHEN PEOPLE IN CALIFORNIA CALLED IT THE SILICON CITY OF INDIA, I FELT PROUD OF MY COUNTRY —DEV ANAND | AT A FELICITATION IN BANGALORE ON JANUARY 19, 2008

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PRINCE CHARMING: Dev Anand at The Times of India office in Bangalore on October 4, 2007

gentem
December 5th, 2011, 07:47 PM
This report has some more information about personal safety.
Anyhow I still feel bad for people living in top neighbourhoods of our country(like Adyar, Jayanagar,Bandra etc) below a medium sized city in developed countries.

Sorry dude that is an indian author, he could have well seen this PTI report than the original list of mercer.. mercer original source gave only top 50 cities. full list is paid download i guess. And we dont see personal safety to be much better in chennai compared to other indian cities
http://www.mercer.com/press-releases/quality-of-living-report-2011

murlee
December 5th, 2011, 07:59 PM
^^
Chennai has fared a little better this time, going up three places.

Well.. This line shows that Chennai was 111 last year.. so it is logical to assume it is 108 and not 180 coz I don't see anything huge happening that could downgrade the ranks..

Plus, if u consider 180, I can't believe Chennai to be so low in personal safety compared to Delhi, Mumbai, bang etc which see terror attacks , whereas Chennai is quite safe in these terms.

satishanu
December 5th, 2011, 08:32 PM
Sorry dude that is an indian author, he could have well seen this PTI report than the original list of mercer.. mercer original source gave only top 50 cities. full list is paid download i guess. And we dont see personal safety to be much better in chennai compared to other indian cities
http://www.mercer.com/press-releases/quality-of-living-report-2011

Here is one from non-indian author:

Ranking better than Manila in terms of personal safety were the likes of Malaysia’s Kuala Lumpur and Johor Baru (both 75th); China’s Beijing, Chengdu, Guangzhou, Jilin, Nanjing, Qingdao, Shanghai and Shenyang (all at 94th spot), and Senzhen (112th); India’s Chennai (108th), Bangalore (117th), Kolkata and New Delhi (both 127th), and Mumbai (142nd); Vietnam’s Hanoi (110th) and Ho Chi Minh City (119th); as well as Vientiane (144th) and Bangkok (160th), among others.

http://www.bworldonline.com/content.php?section=TopStory&title=Manila-maintains-quality-of-living&id=42460

naveen_blr
December 5th, 2011, 10:37 PM
Long Live the Bengalooru and the Citizens of Bengalooru

gentem
December 6th, 2011, 02:28 AM
^^


Well.. This line shows that Chennai was 111 last year.. so it is logical to assume it is 108 and not 180 coz I don't see anything huge happening that could downgrade the ranks..

Plus, if u consider 180, I can't believe Chennai to be so low in personal safety compared to Delhi, Mumbai, bang etc which see terror attacks , whereas Chennai is quite safe in these terms.
that line is about quality of living, not about personal safety. however multiple sources saying 108 so lets wait few days to confirm. I think this personal safety ranking was not there last year.

gentem
December 6th, 2011, 05:32 AM
Possible chennai 108 and bangalore 117, bangalore had a serial blast that killed one, and 2 bbmp corporators were murdered in daylight last year. But mercer did not have this personal safety rankings last year afaik. But we need to wait more to confirm as sources contradict. However there is no ambiguity in quality of living where bangalore tops

engineer.akash
December 6th, 2011, 06:21 AM
Just leave it here guys..Leave this space only for bangaluru and no other city :cheers:

gentem
December 6th, 2011, 07:38 AM
Smokers shell out Rs 7.19 lakh (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bangalore/Smokers-shell-out-Rs-719-lakh/articleshow/11000202.cms)
TNN | Dec 6, 2011, 03.19AM IST
BANGALORE: The home department has collected a sum of Rs 7.19 lakh as penalty from 1,99,994 offenders for smoking cigarettes in public. Replying to Ganesh Karnik ( BJP) in the legislative council on Monday, home minister R Ashoka said his department had registered 7,093 cases till November this year.

"The department had registered 2,381 cases in 2008, 3,829 cases in 2009 and 6,691 cases in 2010," he said.

Karnik appealed to the government to increase police vigil near city colleges, where cases of substance abuse too were reported.

"There are instances where narcotics are used in eatables and sold near colleges. A lot of girls are being victimized due to this," he added.

shoka said it had come to his notice that instances of substance abuse in colleges where foreign students were studying had risen and that his department would increase the number of patrol vehicles near such colleges. tnn

No state flag for Karnataka (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bangalore/No-state-flag-for-Karnataka/articleshow/11000220.cms)
TNN | Dec 6, 2011, 03.20AM IST
BANGALORE: Karnataka has no official state flag and the government has no intention of having one.

The red and yellow flag that flutters in the state, especially on November 1, the Kannada Rajyotsava day, has no official sanctity.

BJP MLA S R Vishwanath raised the issue in the legislative assembly on Monday and sought a uniform flag for the state. Kannada and culture minister Govind M Karjol said: "The Flag Code does not allow flags for states. Our national flag is the symbol of integrity and sovereignty of our nation. If states have their separate flags, it could diminish the importance of the national flag. Besides, there are possibilities of it leading to narrow-minded regional feelings.''

The minister said people are at liberty to hoist the national flag during all functions, including the Rajyotsava day.

Mahadeva Prasad (Congress) raised the issue of the state's official song (Naada geethe) and said people were not following uniformity while singing the song. He suggested to the government to specify the number of stanzas and the tune.

The minister said the government was already considering the issue.

Suresh Kumar is floor leader: Law and parliamentary affairs minister S Suresh Kumar has been appointed the floor leader in the assembly, while Siddu Savadi has been made the chief whip. Kumar's appointment is made as CM D V Sadanada Gowda is not an elected member of the assembly. Savadi is the new chief whip as D N Jeevaraj has resigned the post.

Drought and Lokayukta: Opposition parties are gearing up to put the BJP government on the mat over drought and delay in the appointment of Lokayukta. Though Congress' demand for an adjournment motion on drought was struck down, speaker KG Bopaiah has allowed a discussion on the issue. JD(S) has moved an adjournment motion on the delay in the appointment of Lokayukta. It is yet to come up for discussion in the assembly.

Gowdru
December 6th, 2011, 12:41 PM
Just leave it here guys..Leave this space only for bangaluru and no other city :cheers:
^^ Ibbara madya kicchu attisi nisagi nulchokolorandre ivre nodri.

Gowdru
December 6th, 2011, 01:00 PM
^^ Few Bangaloreans here are really crazy.. Thammanna taave kochkollodu. Where is Delhi/Mumbai , Where is Bangalore man, Ajagajanthara difference. Infact rate at which Chennai Improving = Rate at which Bangalore decaying :bash:.

These guys should take a trip around Bangalore ,they will realise the fact. Patholed road, garbage everywhere, hectic traffic(this is worst in entire universe) ,dusty roads with mud , No greenery except some core areas, No proper water supply.........
Creating hypes No longer helps, These reports are nothing to just improve some real estate developments.

These reports should downgrade Bangalore name. So Less migration, less traffic ,Peaceful, healthy life.

think-tank
December 6th, 2011, 01:59 PM
^^ Few Bangaloreans here are really crazy.. Thammanna taave kochkollodu. .

Are you related to Deve Gowda? thank you for lowering average state IQ.

strike2
December 6th, 2011, 02:00 PM
Yellinda bandri gowdre :nuts:

^^ Few Bangaloreans here are really crazy.. Thammanna taave kochkollodu. Where is Delhi/Mumbai , Where is Bangalore man, Ajagajanthara difference. Infact rate at which Chennai Improving = Rate at which Bangalore decaying :bash:.

These guys should take a trip around Bangalore ,they will realise the fact. Patholed road, garbage everywhere, hectic traffic(this is worst in entire universe) ,dusty roads with mud , No greenery except some core areas, No proper water supply

These reports should downgrade Bangalore name. So Less migration, less traffic ,Peaceful, healthy life.

Do u think these are not there in mumbai/delhi/chennai??
All Indian cities are the same...its just that B'lore is better compared to others for expats to live in [which the report is meant for ]

HedonistAtBlr
December 6th, 2011, 02:01 PM
Infact rate at which Chennai Improving = Rate at which Bangalore decaying :bash:.


No argument there :lol:

avinash2060
December 6th, 2011, 03:19 PM
7G2uyq-qmMk

doc.aneesh
December 6th, 2011, 03:37 PM
7G2uyq-qmMk

Great stuff :applause:

doc.aneesh
December 6th, 2011, 03:42 PM
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think-tank
December 6th, 2011, 04:21 PM
That video shows people are tired with IT.

Yagya
December 6th, 2011, 04:48 PM
:banana: namma Bengaluru :banana:

gentem
December 7th, 2011, 04:11 AM
Bangaloreans wary of cycling, 270 registered but only 3 are part of pilot project (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bangalore/Bangaloreans-wary-of-cycling-270-registered-but-only-3-are-part-of-pilot-project/articleshow/11012194.cms)
TNN | Dec 7, 2011, 12.43AM IST

BANGALORE: Though 270 Bangaloreans signed up to cycle their way around the city, today, only three have hit the pedal.

On October 18, Kerberon Automobiles launched Automated Tracking and Control of Green Assets (ATCAG) pilot project, with support from the department of urban land transport (DULT) and BBMP.

"Registrations began the next day and service was available from November 1. In the first five days, 120 people signed up, so we had to close physical registrations. But online registrations are still open. To date, 270 people have registered," said Syed Haseeb Arfath, co-founder of Kerberon Automobiles.

ATCAG has three dockets, two on MG Road and one at the end of Brigade Road, near the National War Memorial Park, with four cycles in each station.

"This pilot project is mainly for demonstration purpose so that people know, see and understand how to use the service. We've tried to make it as advanced a system as possible; our target at the end of three months of the pilot period is to ensure 300 users at least," added Arfath.

All you can see at these dockets now are the cycles, a security guard and some onlookers. The swanky dockets, cycles imported from Paris, and smartcards to use the service, have not been able to grab eyeballs yet.

Problems, solutions

Prabhakar Rao, founder of Go Green Go Cycling and popularly known as GoGreen Rao, told TOI about the problems in bringing cycling back to the city. "The biggest hurdle to cycling in Bangalore is lack of awareness. Cycling is not only healthy but a socio-environmental contribution you make towards the city and its environment. It is tough to make people understand the benefits of cycling. Traffic police, the city administration and DULT together will have to be the stakeholders," said Rao.

GoGreen Rao also said that safety worries cyclists on busy city roads. "The administration must see to it that every big road or corridor has footpaths and dedicated cycling tracks. This will not only ensure the safety of cyclists but also encourage others to take to cycling. Until then, such initiatives may not work," he said.
Yess, no takers :banana: Electric scooters are anyday better than cycles

engineer.akash
December 7th, 2011, 04:05 PM
Round and about - Soak in its old-world charm


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The Hindu SUNNY SIDE UP: Scenic sunrises, sunsets and spotting of rare brids is characteristic to this neighbourhood. Photo: Murali Kumar. K


The neighbourhood fascinates nature lovers, morning walkers and photographers
Rajarajeshwarinagar, which was once a beautiful valley surrounded by hills, is today a bustling residential area with several schools, colleges, companies and nursing homes.

The area, south-west of the city, got its name from the goddess, Sri Jnaneshwari Rajarajeshwari, whose temple, constructed in the late 1960s, is located a kilometre from the imposing arch on Mysore Road. This arch was built by the temple trust and was inaugurated by the then Prime Minister P.V. Narasimha Rao. Rajarajeshwarinagar is primarily divided into the Ideal Homes Township, BEML Layout, BHEL Layout and Pattanagere. The Ideal Homes Township, which was developed by the Ideal Homes Society in the late 1970s, is the first set of houses you will stumble upon on entering the area. The BEML Layout is dotted with parks, hotels, tree-lined avenues and shopping complexes, while the BHEL Layout mainly houses the employees of the company. Pattanagere, on the other hand, retains its old-world charm and is reminiscent of the Mysore of old. Rajarajeshwarinagar, which was once considered far away from the city, has become a much sought-after address, especially for those who want to escape city life. Sandwiched between the Bangalore University Jnanabharathi forest on the north and the Turahalli forest on the south, experiencing misty mornings and picturesque sunsets are a daily affair here. Since it was planned and approved by the Bangalore Development Authority, there are plenty of parks in the area. A 9-km-long Bangalore Mysore Infrastructure Corridor link road, which starts from PES College junction and stretches to Somapura junction, fences an entire section of Rajarajeshwarinagar.

CLUSTER OF VILLAGES

It's hard to fathom but Rajarajeshwarinagar was earlier a cluster of villages, namely Kenchanahallii, Pattanagere, Halagevaderahalli and Chennasandra. The main occupation of the residents was growing ragi. In the 1970s, groundnuts were grown near the Rajarajeshwari temple, and children often spent their time playing in the fields. Rajarajeshwarinagar became a full-fledged suburb by the early 90s, by which time most of the layouts had come up. The area is well connected by public buses and has also become a nerve centre for students and young professionals, having as many as six engineering colleges (PES, RV, GAT, RNSIT, JSSATE and SJBIT), a Teacher's Training Institute, the Bangalore University Campus, and the software technology park (Global Village).

The consequence has been the mushrooming of hostels, paying guest accommodations with bed and breakfast arrangements and good rental returns for house owners. Manipal Hospital and BGS Health City are the two major hospitals in the vicinity.

However the Vrishabhavathi, which was once a source of clear drinking water, is today contaminated with industrial, agricultural and domestic effluents from central and western parts of Bangalore. And work on ongoing projects at arterial roads like the Mysore Road and Outer Ring Road junction at Nayandahalli has led to traffic congestion and road blocks.

But this green pocket with its hilly terrain, spectacular sunrises and spotting of bush birds is so quaint that once you enter the imposing archway, those traffic snarls become a distant memory.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/karnataka/article2694892.ece


One of the finest and most beautiful modern layouts of Bangaluru :cheers: Love this layout

engineer.akash
December 8th, 2011, 03:33 PM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7150/6392877431_fab93bedbe_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ramnath1971/6392877431/)
Namma Metro-01 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ramnath1971/6392877431/) by ramnath bhat (http://www.flickr.com/people/ramnath1971/), on Flickr

:cheers:

skysher
December 9th, 2011, 02:26 AM
^^ AWESOMMME...!!! :cheers:

avinash2060
December 10th, 2011, 10:17 AM
@skysher - Agree...
But Bangalore doesn't entirely depend on IT.. It's just a major contributor

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/photo.cms?msid=11041001

avinash2060
December 10th, 2011, 10:19 AM
Companies located in the southern cities of Bangalore, Hyderabad and Chennai are finding it difficult to hold on to their young employees as attrition levels in these cities stood at 15%--- the highest in the country during the last twelve months.

A recent survey conducted by TeamLease Services Pvt Ltd showed that the attrition rate in these cities of South India that have a significant concentration of IT and ITES firms have the highest attrition rates. "While on an average, attrition hovers around 8-10% in most organizations, in IT companies and BPOs - where most staffers are in their early 20s - attrition is astonishingly high," says Sangeeta Lala, co-founder and vice-president, TeamLease Services.

"As the markets have opened up post-recession, companies are grappling with the key issue of holding on to their young employees. This is adding to the high attrition rates across sectors.," she says adding that companies are desperate to hire people.

The survey also showed that "better salary" was one of the major reasons for high attrition levels. Majority of the respondents in all of the surveyed cities expressed this view.

Junior level profiles having work experience of 1-3 years stole the limelight from across all other hierarchical levels. This segment showed the highest and the fastest growing intent to hire, while middle-level hiring (with 3-7 years of work experience) showed a marginal drop in the data collected from about 8 major cities. The survey spans eight industry sectors and covers small, medium and large companies.

The survey shows that in the last 12 months, attrition has been the highest in Infrastructure companies, IT& ITES firms. The attrition rates in these sectors hovered around 15%.

Ms Lala points out that the attrition has been the maximum at the junior and middle level positions. Even Delhi have a high attrition rate of 15.26%.

Among the cities surveyed, both Ahmedabad (9.02%) and Mumbai (9.83) had the lowest attrition rates in the last one year. Even during the last three months (April-June 2011), the attrition levels in both Mumbai and Ahmedabad were just over 7%, while both Chennai and Hyderabad had attrition rates over 10%.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/jobs/Attrition-highest-in-Blore-Hyderabad-Chennai/articleshow/9200217.cms

sunilkumar
December 10th, 2011, 05:54 PM
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sunilkumar
December 10th, 2011, 05:55 PM
^^ This is Rs. 350 crore project and is likely to have a heritage tower (like the disney world towers) and a total of nine attractions. The park will also have two temples, a 4-D theatre, expos, puppetry workshops, story-telling for children and costume shows.

The main temple complex building will be about 360 feet tall, with a viewing gallery at 500 ft level. The Krishna Heritage Tower will house the Sri Puri Jagannath Mandir and the Sri Radha Krishna Mandir. At the 500 ft level, the complex will have the Sri Venkateshwara Sky Temple.

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/44292_421743709645_243048554645_5086380_1301803_n.jpg

murlee
December 11th, 2011, 01:05 AM
Theme Park + temple..? WOW.. This is unique!! Great idea to make the kids get to know about the religion and its philosophies..

Has the work on construction started??

Indian Sun
December 11th, 2011, 03:17 AM
Wow, interesting !

engineer.akash
December 11th, 2011, 07:02 AM
^^ This is Rs. 350 crore project and is likely to have a heritage tower (like the disney world towers) and a total of nine attractions. The park will also have two temples, a 4-D theatre, expos, puppetry workshops, story-telling for children and costume shows.

The main temple complex building will be about 360 feet tall, with a viewing gallery at 500 ft level. The Krishna Heritage Tower will house the Sri Puri Jagannath Mandir and the Sri Radha Krishna Mandir. At the 500 ft level, the complex will have the Sri Venkateshwara Sky Temple.

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/44292_421743709645_243048554645_5086380_1301803_n.jpg

Few more ISCKON projects I personally like the Hubli project,bangalore project is still on paper i guess,whereas hubli project is u/c that makes Hubli ISCKON the biggest cultural complex u/c in Karnataka. :cheers: Bangaluru needs to wait :bye:

ISCKON Temple in Jaipur


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ISCKON Temple in Hubli-Dharwad

ISKCON temple to come up at a cost of Rs. 50 crore

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Foundation laid: Mallikarjun Swami of Murugha Math, Vishwa Prasanna Tirtha Swami of Pejawara Adhokshaja Math and president of ISKCON, Bangalore, Madhupandita Dasa performing bhoomi puja for the construction of temple and cultural complex at Rayapur in Dharwad district on Sunday.

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ISKCON will be launching its master plan Project “Sri Sri Radha Krishna Mandir & Bhaktivedanta Heritage and Cultural Complex” in line with ISKCON Temple in Bangalore at Rayapur, Hubli-Dharwad. It will be Glory of India and Pride of Karnataka. The Projects Architectural master piece will be designed by a team of Architects led by Sri Madhupandit Dasa, President, ISKCON Bangalore, who has designed the famous ISKCON Bangalore temple. The phase one of the project “The Akshaya Patra Kitchen” is already ready & is built at the cost of 14 Crore and has a capacity to cook food for 2,50,000 children at a time. At present 1, 80,000 underprivileged children are covered in the scheme. Apart from Akshaya Patra, & a temple of Sri Radha Krishna, the proposed project in Hubli- Dwd will include the following.

ARCHITECTURAL GRANDEUR :
The Grand Cultural complex will showcase India’s glorious tradition of Art, Architecture and Valuable Heritage. The Complex will bear a unique blend of Traditional Hoyasala and Modern Architecture, a beautiful synthesis of traditional South Indian temple architecture and modern facilities.
It will have intricately carved pillars, ornately sculpted figures exhibiting various themes from purana’s, ornamental arches, traditional Gold Kalasha’s crowning the temple. The temple will have one svagata-gopuram (welcome tower, representing the Lord’s feet), one raja-gopuram (grand tower, representing the Lord’s navel), one vimana-gopuram (tower above the deities’ chamber, representing the Lord’s head). The Complex will have a prayer and meditation hall, traditional Kalyani for boat festivals

An Environmental Delight
The complex will be garlanded by lush green, serene garden and landscape. The Musical fountain will have brilliant fusion of light, sound and water amidst beautiful landscape, with colourful gardens and verdant lawns.

Multimedia Theatre : Inculcating Values through technology
The Complex will house a state of art multimedia theatre which will showcase the values of Vedic culture through films, light and sound shows, Video & Audio animatronics. It will have a capacity of 300 people at a time.

Heritage Auditorium & Open air Theatre:
Nurturing talents through Heritage & Cultural Festivals
Enchanting India is a treasury of art, architecture; philosophy, classical dances and music. India is colorful and vibrant, a land as diverse as its people. It has mosaic of faiths, cultures, customs and languages that blend harmoniously to form a composite whole. It is one of the world’s oldest living civilizations. To give a glimpse & to teach these important values embedded in our Vedic heritage, the Complex will house a Heritage Auditorium & Open Air Theatre with a capacity of more than 500 people each.

Cultural & Spiritual Theme Park :
Showcasing the Glorious heritage through EntertainmentThere will be spectacular Walk through experience, Educational boat rides, in themed settings of animated dolls, light, sound and special atmospheric effects.
Annadana Mantap :
Apart from the Akshaya Patra program, all the pilgrims to the temple will also be able to have Sri Krishna Prasadam at the temple in Annadana Mantap. This will have a capacity of thousand people at a time.

Hari Nam Mantap :
Japa Yajna for World Peace & HarmonyThe Complex will have a unique program to make thousands of people chant at least one round of the Hare Krishna maha mantra everyday at the temple for World Peace & Harmony. The Harinama mantap will be designed in South-Indian style, and will have two sets of 108 steps. A recorded voice of Srila Prabhupada chanting the mahamantra with full clarity, will resounds in the mantap, playing off a CD. One full round will take exactly 10 minutes - meaning that 1296 people can pass through the mantap in an hour, each chanting the mahamantra 108 times.

http://iskconhubli.org/project.asp

engineer.akash
December 11th, 2011, 09:16 AM
@skysher - Agree...
But Bangalore doesn't entirely depend on IT.. It's just a major contributor

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/photo.cms?msid=11041001

^^Such guys need to visit the Technology thread in bangaluru forum.Bangalore is truly the engineering and R&D hub of India.It all started with IISC and the Mysore maharaja. No city can come close to it..Forget Mumbai

Bangaluru the Nano city of India next!!

naveen_blr
December 11th, 2011, 07:16 PM
^^Such guys need to visit the Technology thread in bangaluru forum.Bangalore is truly the engineering and R&D hub of India.It all started with IISC and the Mysore maharaja. No city can come close to it..Forget Mumbai

Bangaluru the Nano city of India next!!

I want IIT in Karnataka

hakindian1984
December 12th, 2011, 12:15 AM
I want IIT in Karnataka

There was a proposal to upgrade NITK Surthkal to IIT........I dont knw wht happened to that........

gentem
December 12th, 2011, 03:40 AM
I want IIT in Karnataka

there was proposal to start new iit in muddenahalli near devanahalli, which is hometown of sir m visweswaraiah..

we want iit in north ka, belgaum looks fine

strike2
December 12th, 2011, 08:13 AM
Bangalore traffic goes green
Published: Monday, Dec 12, 2011, 8:51 IST
By DNA Correspondent | Place: Bangalore | Agency: DNA

Even as Bescom is planning to introduce energy-saving prepaid meters, the city traffic police are going in for solar-powered signals to save power.

A study initiated by the traffic police shows that solar-powered traffic lights are an effective way to conserve power.

While there are different types of signal junctions in the city, the study conducted by Bharat Electronics Limited focused only on four-road junctions.

The city has 330 traffic lights at such junctions operating on solar power, said Vasant S Bhagawat, sub-inspector of police, Traffic Management Centre (TMC), Ashok Nagar police station.

“All 330 lights do not work at the same time. Since the city is growing, sometimes, we have to remove and replace the lights after a road work or an underpass work is completed,” Bhagawat said.

The study was conducted keeping in mind electric load and consumption per day, which varies between 10 hours and 14 hours. “Conventional signals consume up to 40.84 KW per hour while solar-powered LED signals consume only about 2.85 KW per hour,” he said.

Solar-powered lights require minimum maintenance.

The only cost involved is for replacing the batteries after long use.

“Energy cost per year at Rs4 per unit on conventional signals would be Rs59,000 while this cost will be nil on solar-powered LED signals as it does not draw power from conventional sources,” he said.

The total savings from 330 solar-powered traffic lights come to Rs1.86 lakh.

Since some of the infrastructure works were completed in 2011, the number of LED signals operating on solar power increased from 330 to 342.

“This year, the savings so far came to Rs173,308,00,” he said.

These smart signals can assess the time frame required for each junction.

“At TMC, we monitor the traffic flow. When we see that the traffic on a particular road is high, we control the signals. The seconds can be reduced or increased. This helps us in managing the traffic flow,” he said.

“When we don’t get connections from traffic signals, we know which ones of them are not working as they are remotely controlled. We send an SMS to the field officer and engineer concerned. They will immediately repair them,” he said.

Besides conserving energy, solar-powered lights can lessen traffic congestion.

This is relevant for Bangalore, which faces frequent disruption of power.
http://www.dnaindia.com/bangalore/report_bangalore-traffic-goes-green_1624589

Way to go BTP:banana:

dino_srk
December 12th, 2011, 02:22 PM
The national capital was named on Monday the country's most competitive city for the second year in a row, as per a survey that analysed different cities on factors like their investment climate and governance matters.

Delhi has pipped the financial hub Mumbai and IT hotspot Bengaluru to grab the top slot in the annual survey conducted by the Institute for Competitiveness (IFC).

Releasing its City Competitiveness Index 2011, the IFC said in a statement that the he report was an indicative of how the corporate world selects the cities for investing and also how governance is important in assessing the level of competitiveness diversity spread across these cities.

In the list of 50 cities, Delhi is followed by Mumbai, Bengaluru, Pune, Chennai, Gurgaon, Kolkata, Hyderabad, Ahmedabad and Jaipur in the top-ten positions.

"The growth and progress under some parameters is remarkable and if Delhi continues to keep the pace then it may become unbeatable in some time. For instance, its physical infrastructure, its demographics, some business dimensions are its strong areas," the report said.

"In addition, its proximity to the cities like Gurgaon and Noida add an advantage to its basket," it added.

The report said that Bengaluru and Pune have moved up from their fourth and eighth ranks, respectively, last year, while Chennai has dropped three positions to fifth place now.

"It is the responsibility of the government, firms and the people to offer an almost perfect (cost effective and business positive) solution to make India a prosperous country," IFC Honorary Chairman Amit Kapoor said.

Incidentally, Delhi today completed 100 years of its emergence as the capital of the modern India.

Delhi was proclaimed as the capital of British Raj on December 12, 1911, shifting from Kolkata, by then Emperor of India George V thereby returning to the historic city its lost glory.

Source: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/et-cetera/delhi-named-indias-most-competitive-city-for-2011/articleshow/11083128.cms

devendra1
December 12th, 2011, 04:07 PM
^^Such guys need to visit the Technology thread in bangaluru forum.Bangalore is truly the engineering and R&D hub of India.It all started with IISC and the Mysore maharaja. No city can come close to it..Forget Mumbai

Bangaluru the Nano city of India next!!
Well here is recent survey (reposting . Originally posted by Kunwaronline)-

Mumbai is the largest employment generator in the Indian organized sector for the period between July and September of 2011, according to the latest findings of Ma Foi Randstad Employment Trends Survey (MEtS) – Wave 3. The city has created 28,500 jobs in Q 3.

The survey was conducted among 676 companies across 13 industry segments panning 8 Indian cities. The feedback was gathered from the top HR personnel and senior management of companies, who shared valuable insights on the job creation during the last (July – September) and the current (October – December) quarters of 2011.

http://rupeehub.com/mumbai-is-number-one-job-generator-in-the-country-mets/

Office Space Absorbtion (even though not as many IT jobs as Bangaluru)-

Mumbai - 2.3 million sq ft
Bangalore - 1.8
NCR - 1.23
Chennai - Over 1 million

http://www.joneslanglasalle.co.in/Re...siapacific.pdf
Lets not start City Vs City just FYI

engineer.akash
December 12th, 2011, 04:12 PM
Not talking about finance jobs or overall jobs..Technology matters to me...And Bangy is top city when it comes to Tech jobs..Mumbai can keep quite...Yes finance jobs it can boast a bit,but Delhi is taking over Mumbai nicely here.:cheers:

sixsigma1978
December 12th, 2011, 08:19 PM
Don't know if this was posted here.
Last days of the Plaza theatre afore it was shut down for good.

Plaza theatre’s last day Images (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jace/sets/72157625016367081/with/5071340861/)
Copyright Jace

skysher
December 13th, 2011, 04:12 AM
Wow... Bengaluru is leading the way in taking religion into the 21st century. Good initiatives.

gentem
December 13th, 2011, 07:06 PM
Infosys cuts employees' breaks to meet revenue target (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/careers/job-trends/Infosys-cuts-employees-breaks-to-meet-revenue-target/articleshow/11090887.cms)
ET Bureau | Dec 13, 2011, 10.09AM IST

BANGALORE: Infosys is making its nearly 1.5 lakh employees work extra hard this quarter by shortening two weekend breaks, a rare step which may mean the company is huffing and puffing to meet its revenue growth target.

Staff at India's second-largest software exporter worked on November 19 and December 10 (both Saturdays), giving the company a revenue boost of 1-1.3% for the October-December quarter, J P Morgan analyst Viju K George wrote in a report.
bad move

Indiadreams
December 14th, 2011, 02:11 AM
Not talking about finance jobs or overall jobs..Technology matters to me...And Bangy is top city when it comes to Tech jobs..Mumbai can keep quite...Yes finance jobs it can boast a bit,but Delhi is taking over Mumbai nicely here.:cheers:

Never wanted to join city vs city discussion. But to clear the misconception many have. Pease tell me one front-end finance job which moved to Delhi. Most of the finance related jobs outside Mumbai are KPOs/ BPOS (which are clubbed under ITES in most cases) or branch offices to cater regional market. All Bhartias and Mallyas have to personally travel to Mumbai if they want a big loan.

In finance (front-end jobs) and entertainment industries, getting a satisafctory job,without compromise, outside Mumbai is very difficult. One of my friends who works in a fund is trying to shift to Bangalore (due to family reasons) for 3 years now in vain. Unlike high end IT jobs, which may be exclusive in Bangalore (though there are few in Hyd/Pune/Chennai etc), front end jobs in finance is common in Mumbai

Indiadreams
December 14th, 2011, 02:20 AM
And please check the personal (non-corporate) and corporate tax collections over the last 10 years in Mumbai.Mumbai still contributes around 27% and 35% of the these taxes respectively There had been no impact in spite of the perceived movement of companies out of Mumbai.In the survey posted above Mumbai was given a far less score compared to Delhi excluding Gurgaon (60 odd vs 90 odd) for diversity of industries. God knows how they come up with these numbers.

Master of Disguise
December 14th, 2011, 08:00 AM
^^ Check the latest stats IndiaDreams/...Mumbai was yesteryears....Come to Delhi and see it yourself....Delhi is being tagged No 1 by almost all now.....there must be some reason......Open your eyes and see the world around you...

gentem
December 14th, 2011, 08:27 AM
^^ Check the latest stats IndiaDreams/...Mumbai was yesteryears....Come to Delhi and see it yourself....Delhi is being tagged No 1 by almost all now.....there must be some reason......Open your eyes and see the world around you...

long rant without making any point or any basis :weird:

delhi no. 1 only in legal services, with congress lawyer abhishek manu singhvi making more earnings than mallya. we want supreme court bench in south india.. in hyd or pune or navi mumbai.

livelyfire
December 14th, 2011, 01:54 PM
Banglore is really a great place because it is the real place for engineers and corporate houses. I alway want to stay in banglore.

Indiadreams
December 14th, 2011, 03:08 PM
^^ Check the latest stats IndiaDreams/...Mumbai was yesteryears....Come to Delhi and see it yourself....Delhi is being tagged No 1 by almost all now.....there must be some reason......Open your eyes and see the world around you...

Okay, I am posting the latest stats for your convenience. Both Mumbai and Delhi have dismal growth rate with Delhi showing negative growth. Growth rates are usually volatile. The growth rate was decent in the last 2-3 years(Not that both the cities are going to grow like other smaller cities due to high base effect).

But check out absolute numbers, Delhi's tax collections are around 40% of Mumbai's, which is hovering around 40-45% for a decade now.

http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/direct-tax-mop-up-mumbai-delhi-falter-small-cities-robust/457693/

s.yogendra
December 14th, 2011, 04:08 PM
Public vehicles banned on Bangalore University campus?

Sooner or later, Bangalore University’s (BU) Jnana Bharathi campus roads may be closed for public vehicles. BU Vice-Chancellor Dr N Prabhu Dev proposed this plan to BBMP Commissioner M K Shankarlinge Gowda on Tuesday.

“I have met the commissioner and requested him to declare Jnana Bharathi roads as University Roads, thereby allowing only vehicles coming to university inside the campus. Public can use the Nayandahalli Junction connecting Outer Ring Road via Nagarbhavi,” VC Prabhu Dev told Express.

According to the VC, this move would reduce vehicular movement in Jnana Bharathi, creating the varsity atmosphere. “There were many instances of Sandalwood tree theft inside the campus. By declaring the roads as University road, there will be an end to this menace,” the vice chancellor said.

At the same meeting, Dr Prabhu Dev stressed on the need to expedite repair work on the campus roads. “Repair works were inaugurated in my presence many months ago. Still, there has been no progress. I have requested the commissioner to take up the repair work of the roads,” he said. He added that BBMP commissioner had assured that he would consider the request on priority.

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/public-vehicles-banned-on-university-campus/211754-62-132.html

engineer.akash
December 14th, 2011, 06:02 PM
^^ Check the latest stats IndiaDreams/...Mumbai was yesteryears....Come to Delhi and see it yourself....Delhi is being tagged No 1 by almost all now.....there must be some reason......Open your eyes and see the world around you...

+1,

Mumbai is just rotting these days,Not many prefer to work there.Finance jobs will soon go to Delhi/Gurgaon.Mumbai has good future in real estate related jobs..

While tech jobs will remain with Bangaluru.:cheers:

murlee
December 14th, 2011, 06:08 PM
^^ Don't forget GIFT for Finance..

engineer.akash
December 14th, 2011, 06:08 PM
I would prefer Bangluru or Chennai for jobs...Mumbai would be my last option ..Zero Civic sense...:nuts:

engineer.akash
December 14th, 2011, 06:10 PM
^^ Don't forget GIFT for Finance..

Exactly,

Coming to T2 cities Surat will soon overtake Pune as well.I have visted both Surat and Pune.Surat is miles ahead of Pune in civic sense and other aspects.But still it is underrated.:ohno:

murlee
December 14th, 2011, 06:16 PM
Surat ahead of Pune?? Don't think so.. The kind of investments and projects Pune is seeing, it is gonna get better in the future.

Surat, no idea actually. Its never in the news.. Gotta take your word for it.

engineer.akash
December 14th, 2011, 06:23 PM
Surat ahead of Pune?? Don't think so.. The kind of investments and projects Pune is seeing, it is gonna get better in the future.

Surat, no idea actually. Its never in the news.. Gotta take your word for it.

I am not being biased here,these are based on my experience.

Well,Surat is the fastest growing city in India there are many surveys done to back that.Pune is just growing coz of good educational institutes with a huge floating population.Politicians have ruined Pune city.

Surat is clean,modern,ranks high in civic sense and a very safe city,

Note this,Coastal cities develop fast :cheers: Surat's port activities are just enough to pack off Pune when it comes to money figures.

Oh wait don't forget Diamonds!! lol

Surat needs good air connectivity that is all!!!

engineer.akash
December 14th, 2011, 06:29 PM
In case you din't know

Surat fourth fastest growing city in world (http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-07-23/surat/29807187_1_smaller-cities-growth-rate-surat)

SURAT: The diamond city's glitter has been noticed by the world. Surat ranks fourth in a global study of fastest developing cities conducted by The City Mayors Foundation, an international think tank on urban affairs.

Recent news

Ranks high in Cleanliness as well

Surat third cleanest city in country (http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/Scripting/ArticleWin.asp?From=Archive&Source=Page&Skin=TOINEW&BaseHref=TOIA/2010/05/12&PageLabel=7&EntityId=Ar00701&ViewMode=HTML&GZ=T)

The diamond city has stumbled and fallen from second place and has been ranked the third cleanest city of the country for 2009-10 with 69 points. Union ministry of urban development, as part of national urban sanitation policy, has been selecting top 25 cleanest cities. Chandigarh has topped with 73.4 points and Mysore is second with 70.6 points.


@murlee

Pune is nowhere to be seen :)

murlee
December 14th, 2011, 06:29 PM
Well.. As I said, no idea abt surat except for diamond industry.. Will take ur word for it :cheers:

Anyways, nice to see new centres of growth coming up and healthy competition is very much needed to keep the officials on their toes!

P.S: Saw those reports! good for Surat.. But, it needs some branding.. Very little news coming out of the city in 'national' media.

HedonistAtBlr
December 14th, 2011, 06:30 PM
How will surat overtake pune? I thought Pune was a Tier 1 city...

any other stats?

engineer.akash
December 14th, 2011, 06:33 PM
How will surat overtake pune? I thought Pune was a Tier 1 city...

stats?

Screw the stats,I have visited both the cities and I personally feel Surat has the best future among all T2 metros.Pune is just a hype.Ahmedabad is also shaping up well.:cheers:

HedonistAtBlr
December 14th, 2011, 06:36 PM
Screw the stats,I have visited both the cities and I personally feel Surat has the best future among all T2 metros.Pune is just a hype.Ahmedabad is also shaping up well.:cheers:

alright then

murlee
December 14th, 2011, 06:36 PM
Ur personal feel?? :lol:

I have visited Pune and I found it very nice.. Many excellent projects coming up everywhere..

Master of Disguise
December 14th, 2011, 06:38 PM
Gentem weren't you supposed to step out of SSC???? Ahhh hume tujhe aur jhelna padega...sheeehhh

engineer.akash
December 14th, 2011, 06:41 PM
Ur personal feel?? :lol:

I have visited Pune and I found it very nice.. Many excellent projects coming up everywhere..

lol..

Murlee bhai visit Surat city sometime,Surtis are the most friendly and bindaas people.

R2IChennai
December 14th, 2011, 08:28 PM
Okay, I am posting the latest stats for your convenience. Both Mumbai and Delhi have dismal growth rate with Delhi showing negative growth. Growth rates are usually volatile. The growth rate was decent in the last 2-3 years(Not that both the cities are going to grow like other smaller cities due to high base effect).

But check out absolute numbers, Delhi's tax collections are around 40% of Mumbai's, which is hovering around 40-45% for a decade now.

http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/direct-tax-mop-up-mumbai-delhi-falter-small-cities-robust/457693/

Dude,
Tax collection is based on Corp hqs, I agree mumbai is still number 1 with corportate hqs and will remain but that is not going to translate into jobs and economy always. NCR is growing in all directions and in number of jobs generated it is equal or greater than mumbai metropolitan

Indiadreams
December 14th, 2011, 08:30 PM
Let us leave the predicion to astrologers.Perceptions and personal preferences have no base. Statistics, which is scientifically caluclated matters (Though GDP is a better measure, the statistics behind GDP is all lies; non-corporate tax collection is the next best proxy, which is prettty easy to calculate)

Indiadreams
December 14th, 2011, 08:33 PM
Dude,
Tax collection is based on Corp hqs, I agree mumbai is still number 1 with corportate hqs and will remain but that is not going to translate into jobs and economy always. NCR is growing in all directions and in number of jobs generated it is equal or greater than mumbai metropolitan

That is why I quoted 27% non-corporate tax (I had posted the stats many times before). Now, someone in UP/Kerala will not pay tax in Mumbai.
Moreover, the discussion here is Mumbai losing its sheen and companies starting in new locations; so how does it retain such a high share of corporate tax for long time now.

The bolded statement is very generic and based on perceptions. There is no doubt NCR is growing; The growth patterns of Mumbai and NCR are different. While Mumbai subsumes the surrounding rural population into urban (and may subsume Pune to become twin cities in around 2-3 decades) NCR is more of a greenfield development.

gentem
December 15th, 2011, 04:36 AM
Okay, I am posting the latest stats for your convenience. Both Mumbai and Delhi have dismal growth rate with Delhi showing negative growth. Growth rates are usually volatile. The growth rate was decent in the last 2-3 years(Not that both the cities are going to grow like other smaller cities due to high base effect).

But check out absolute numbers, Delhi's tax collections are around 40% of Mumbai's, which is hovering around 40-45% for a decade now.

http://www.business-standard.com/newsimgfiles/2011/december/06122011/120611_20.jpg
http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/direct-tax-mop-up-mumbai-delhi-falter-small-cities-robust/457693/

30% of india's direct tax coming from mumbai.. Mumbai needs metro and escalators (state govt can donate) in local train stations badly. Pune no infra hope anytime soon as metro in trouble :ohno: Pune, hyd and chen and even kochin have advantage in IT due to proximity to bangalore

we need to take a bite out of supreme court out of delhi sooner than later :bash:

c'mon akash will now start telling "personally" mangalore is the best city in the world :lol: Surat and ahmedabad liquor sales banned so all gujarati businessmen relocated to mumbai, and IT ruled out there.. Seems in above chart "ahmedabad region" includes surat too which combined lags behind pune :cheers:

above 10k:

chandigarh 11.5
ahmedabad 10.9
pune 11.0
chennai 17.4
hyderabad 12.1
kolkata 10.5
mumbai 72.5
delhi 32.8