Bangalore 22.8K Cr
Chennai 17.4K Cr

^^ How much fund Bangalore got from central govt compared to that of Chennai ? Even it gets 30% of Chennai then it easily survives.

Look at Chennai , they got good National Highways, Suburb Railway Network, MRTS, NH Bypass Road, Power from central grid........whereas Bangalore got tirupathi naama. Our politician good at only in fight with each other.
How come Bangalore - Mysore road still state highway? :bash:

Sometimes I fell NHAI, Indian Railway, and whole central govt belongs to Tamilnadu.

Pune, hyd and chen and even kochin have advantage in IT due to proximity to bangalore

:lol:

:lol:

Infectious :|

Bangalore 22.8K Cr
Chennai 17.4K Cr

^^ How much fund Bangalore got from central govt compared to that of Chennai ? Even it gets 30% of Chennai then it easily survives.

Look at Chennai , they got good National Highways, Suburb Railway Network, MRTS, NH Bypass Road, Power from central grid........whereas Bangalore got tirupathi naama. Our politician good at only in fight with each other.
How come Bangalore - Mysore road still state highway? :bash:

Sometimes I fell NHAI, Indian Railway, and whole central govt belongs to Tamilnadu.

+1 Even Hyd gets things done better than Blr . Metro Planned at the last stage but was approved immediately, check the Airport too

Mumbai is always been a sweetheart to all Union Governments but thats ok as it gets enough to make the govt run , but Delhi why do we need to fund everything into Delhi?

They should put a different funding mechanism into cities with 5-25L Population. Jawahar tagedu Indira hakolli :-P

+1 Even Hyd gets things done better than Blr . Metro Planned at the last stage but was approved immediately, check the Airport too

Mumbai is always been a sweetheart to all Union Governments but thats ok as it gets enough to make the govt run , but Delhi why do we need to fund everything into Delhi?

They should put a different funding mechanism into cities with 5-25L Population. Jawahar tagedu Indira hakolli :-P

get ready for the MOD attack! :lol:

:lol:

What about Gurgaon and Shenzhen ? Surely they are a part of this privileged group too ?

c'mon akash will now start telling "personally" mangalore is the best city in the world :lol:

K, your dislike towards Mangalore is well known :| Not just you,there are many here..

Guys please enough of this regional feelings. We should be proud we are Indians and share within ourselves to improve our country.

Police in the southern Indian city of Bangalore have busted a child begging ring and rescued 292 children.

More than 100 of the rescued children are infants, below the age of three, senior police officer Pranab Mohanty told the BBC.

He said many children were drugged with cough syrup. The rescue operation was carried out over three days.

Nine people have been arrested and police say they are looking for the "kingpin" of the racket.

Abducted
"We started identifying child beggars about three months ago, as we felt there was a spurt in their numbers. We counted more than 1,000 child beggars in the city," Mr Mohanty said.

The rescue operation was conducted throughout Bangalore's streets. Most of the children are believed to be children of migrant labourers coming into the city for work, Habib Beary reports from Bangalore.

The police say they believe the children were abducted and were being forced to beg by suspected traffickers.

The rescued children have been sent to government remand homes and centres run by non-government organisations for rehabilitation, our correspondent reports.

Campaigners say more than 60,000 children go missing every year in India and many of them end up as child labour, beggars or in brothels

link (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-16192826)

^^ :ohno:

+1,

Mumbai is just rotting these days,Not many prefer to work there.Finance jobs will soon go to Delhi/Gurgaon.Mumbai has good future in real estate related jobs..

While tech jobs will remain with Bangaluru.:cheers:

Mumbai rotting - Somewhat agree but in couple of Yrs lot of infra projects will be done, so there will definately be the difference.

But it will still continue to attract many people and remain maximum city dude.
Regarding GDP -It BSE, NSE, almost all bank HQ, RBI, Biggest port in India JNPT, most no of company HQ. And currently its the only city in India with skyline to boost of, no city will come close atleast in our lifetime. Not to mention seashores, Navi mumbai.

Tech Jobs MMR has plenty of engg jobs. And once Mumbai-Pune joins, in IT jobs also it will be no 1. MMR alone still has sufficient IT jobs though not as much as Bangalore, Pune. But some surveys say Mumbai is #1 in Call center jobs.

In addition it is top on Fashion, Glamour, Ad, Television industry and offcourse Bollywood. Need I say more. NCR is growing fine and I am happy but You just can't write off Mumbai.

Mumbai rotting - Somewhat agree but in couple of Yrs lot of infra projects will be done, so there will definately be the difference.

But it will still continue to attract many people and remain maximum city dude.


I am not denying any of ur points.Mumbai is sitting pretty ahead thanks to the early solid foundation,Mumbai is run by hopeless politicians which is one of the reasons for it rot Dadar station was so nice in 2000 now :gaah: chembur etc were so serene,same is happening with Pune.Pune metro is in a big mess.

K, your dislike towards Mangalore is well known :| Not just you,there are many here..

I love Namma mangaluru :cheers:. Hope sadananda gowda improve basic infrastructure of the city. It has a potential of becoming another mumbai.

It has potential of becoming another mumbai.

:lol:

I would prefer Bangluru or Chennai for jobs...Mumbai would be my last option ..Zero Civic sense...:nuts:
Its mostly because of high no of slums, as far as my exp goes, compared to the cities I have seen Mumbai is better in following traffic rules.

I love karwar and it want it become a million + city.

I love Namma mangaluru :cheers:. Hope sadananda gowda improve basic infrastructure of the city. It has potential of becoming another mumbai.

Yes that is the spirit Gowdre...Namma Mangalore is beautiful and modern.The only T2 city in KA to boast of a neat emerging skyline.Infact,Bangalore residential Buildings are dabbas in front of Mangalore.

:banana:

Mumbai beda guruvae:ohno:,Mumbai underworld gang Mangalore na adda madkondhbitidhare..Black money bejaan idhae....

:lol:

^^ Don't LOL

Mumbai Underworld headed for a south Indian takeover?

Mid-Day.com, Updated: March 21, 2011 11:40 IST

Mumbai: The Mangalorean mafia seems headed towards a partial takeover of the Mumbai underworld.

After Ravi Pujari killed two engineers at an Andheri construction site to send a chilling message to a builder on March 14, it was his bete noire Hemant Pujari's turn to strike with the murder of a businessman in Goregaon on Saturday.

Hemant Pujari hired shooter Mukesh Sharma alias Shabbir alias Nurul Islam Suleiman from Uttar Pradesh to gun down Angara Pujari, a Monginis frachisee.

Angara was shot through the neck at noon near Goregaon railway station, confirmed Additional Commissioner of Police (north region) Ramarao Pawar.

"We are trying to confirm the role of two women accomplices and whether this faction was involved in earlier crimes," he said.

A local accomplice was picked up by the police last evening but investigators refused to divulge his name saying it would hamper further investigations.

Initial investigations have indicated that Angara had been receiving threats from members of the Hemant Pujari gang, or HP gang as they are known in the underworld, for a long time. A complaint had also been lodged in this connection in 2008.

Police say Hemant and Ravi Pujari, both Mangalorean gangsters, are trying to gain a firm foothold in the western suburbs. They are outsourcing the shootouts to avoid suspicion.

"Hemant Pujari had almost been hibernating for the past few months. The timing of the businessman's murder points to him feeling threatened by his former associates and fellow Mangaloreans Ravi Pujari and Santosh Shetty stepping up their activities in Mumbai," said an underworld source.

The trio had broken away from mentor Chhota Rajan around 2001. Shetty made a name for himself in the underworld with the killing of gangster Bharat Nepali in Bangkok.

Underworld insiders say that, with the latest murder, the Pujaris and Shetty seem set to corner the income from the builder community in the western suburbs.

Ravi Pujari lived near the Sahar airport and was educated there before getting involved in underworld operations. His mentor, Sri Mama, inducted him into the Chhota Rajan gang in 1995 and he formed a deadly combination with Rajan's key lieutenant Guru Satam before breaking away from the gang. Ravi Pujari was not taken seriously until the recent killing at Andheri.

Hemant Pujari was working as a waiter in Ghatkopar before joining hands with Chhota Rajan after a killing at Kherwadi, where he lived and grew up. He was part of Rajan's core team and broke away from him around 2002 to work on his own. He holds sway over Bandra (East) and between Goregaon and Vasai.

Santosh Shetty alias Madan Sharma was part of the Chhota Rajan gang between 1993 and 2002. He operates from countries such as Thailand, Cambodia and Indonesia and was masterminding drug deals before switching over to running extortion syndicates in Mumbai.

http://www.ndtv.com/article/cities/mumbai-underworld-headed-for-a-south-indian-takeover-92998

^^ Don't LOL if you are not aware of this>>>

There are probably more Pav Bhaji vendors in Mumbai than there are mangaloreans in mangalore...Mumbai is an absolute behemoth

btw Akash I see you relying on personal experience rather than any sort of scientific methodology to judge the future of cities

Gowdru enthu alli Mangalore bagae haelidhare athara...Neevu volae :poke: maadthidira...U too have anything against Mangalore like gentem? :)

What about Gurgaon and Shenzhen ? Surely they are a part of this privileged group too ?

Pune, hyd and chen and even kochin have advantage in IT due to proximity to bangalore

+1

Please add Dalian, Metro Manila in above list. :cheers:

btw Akash I see you relying on personal experience rather than any sort of scientific methodology to judge the future of cities

:banana2:

+1 Even Hyd gets things done better than Blr . Metro Planned at the last stage but was approved immediately, check the Airport too

Mumbai is always been a sweetheart to all Union Governments but thats ok as it gets enough to make the govt run , but Delhi why do we need to fund everything into Delhi?

They should put a different funding mechanism into cities with 5-25L Population. Jawahar tagedu Indira hakolli :-P
Not really, we are the first to get metro after delhi, much before chennai/hyd :banana:

get ready for the MOD attack! :lol:

yea it is question of national integration of india :ohno: indian military and politicians are there to protect india. Mods should instead think what is good for ssc

Gowdru enthu alli Mangalore bagae haelidhare athara...Neevu volae :poke: maadthidira...U too have anything against Mangalore like gentem? :)

You do realize that Mumbai is 50 times the size of Mangalore right?

You do realize that Mumbai is 50 times the size of Mangalore right?

Ofcourse it might be even 100 times,I am not denying that.You know people sometimes go overboard while posting Gowdru just did that...You should have realised that instead....

You should have realised that instead....

Fair enough :)

btw I love the Konkan coast...wish I can one day afford a house on the beach there

+1,

Mumbai is just rotting these days,Not many prefer to work there.Finance jobs will soon go to Delhi/Gurgaon.Mumbai has good future in real estate related jobs..

While tech jobs will remain with Bangaluru.:cheers:

Mumbai is rotting - Agree somewhat, but atleast in 2 yrs, major roads (eastern freeway, SCLr), metro, Monorail, new airports and new locals will be there. And with the projects that are there you can never predict.

Tax/GDP - Most corporate HQ, it has almost all Banks HQ, BSE, NSE, RBI. Not to forget Biggest ports JNPT and max no of billionaires. SO finance jobs are not going anywhere

Jobs- Well some survey says its top in call centers, It has good no of IT jobs (MMR). Once Pune- mumbai join or come closer in 2 decades it will easily overtake any city in IT jobs as well. Apart from being the only/top most city for Advertizing, Television, Glamour, fashion jobs.

Skyline - only city in India to boast of, and with the projects in pipeline no city will overtake it in our lifetime.

It as nicely planned Navi Mumbai, seashores, National park in the middle of the city and ofcourse bollywood. Best Night life, as well as fastest city. need I say more...

NCR is growing happy, but you just cant write off Mumbai

but Delhi why do we need to fund everything into Delhi?


Delhi got best roads ,infrastructure during CWG game. CG spent 60000cr for that. They conducted realy well. CWG scam is just media hype.

Next time they should conduct such games in Blr. So our city will also improve.

Also they should shift capital city to any UP City (or) Chandigarh (or) any south indian tier2 city. Because, population of Delhi NCR reached 2.5 crore. Many earthquake tremors reported in last 6 months due to high constructions.:ohno:

Same thing with Karnataka, Govt should shift capital city from Bangalore to one well created city somewhere near to Shimoga. Shift all govt dept to that City.

Same thing with Karnataka, Govt should shift capital city from Bangalore to one well created city somewhere near to Shimoga. Shift all govt dept to that City.

Belgaum alli Suvarna Soudha Barthidae sahibrae :banana:

I am not being biased here,these are based on my experience.

Well,Surat is the fastest growing city in India there are many surveys done to back that.Pune is just growing coz of good educational institutes with a huge floating population.Politicians have ruined Pune city.

Surat is clean,modern,ranks high in civic sense and a very safe city,

Note this,Coastal cities develop fast :cheers: Surat's port activities are just enough to pack off Pune when it comes to money figures.

Oh wait don't forget Diamonds!! lol

Surat needs good air connectivity that is all!!!
Agreed here, Surat is fastest growing city and concensus proved it.
And I am a Gujju staying in Pune, but haven't visited Surat in last 10 yrs. SO cant tell much about Surat.

Clear some misconceptions - Pune is not just for education, it has huge no of manufacturing/ automobile industries as well as IT companies and call centers. Just see its expansion on MPE, you will know. Surat has only textile/dimonds industries and Business, but is much behind in other jobs. And innumerable no of Suraties and Puneties do daily up-down to Mumbai, so Mumbai has some factor in Growth of these 2 cities :lol:

Agreed here, Surat is fastest growing city and concensus proved it.

u mean con-census? :lol:

Sharad Pawar eyes Delhi, through Karnataka

Two seemingly unrelated developments on Wednesday give credence to rumours floating in Karnataka’s political circles for some time that Nationalist Congress Party (NCP) supremo Sharad Pawar is eyeing the prime minister’s chair in the 2014 Lok Sabha elections. One, Afazalpaur Congress MLA Malikaiah Guttedar’s invite to Pawar to visit Karnataka. Two, former Karnataka chief minister BS Yeddyurappa’s denial of any deal with Pawar.

Guttedar was in the news not long ago for his desire to join the BJP. The radical shift in Guttedar’s decision and its timing - what with Yeddyurappa sulking over being marginalised by the BJP - has set tongues wagging. On Wednesday, he invited Pawar to visit Karnataka after the ongoing state legislature session to lay the foundation for the NCP in Karnataka. Guttedar is said to have the backing of about 10 Congress MLAs - most of them from northern Karnataka - who see the NCP as an ideal vehicle to chart their political future by projecting it as the best bet for the welfare of farmers in that part of the state.

There have been whispers of a deal between Pawar and Yeddyurappa. Pawar is reportedly on the lookout for a leader who can deliver eight to 10 Lok Sabha seats for him from Karnataka, and Yeddyurappa fits the bill perfectly. But for that to happen, Yeddyurappa has to break away from the party and go his own way. Perhaps sensing trouble, BJP president Nitin Gadkari summoned Yeddyurappa to Delhi and advised him to be “patient”.
Another big fish being eyed by both Pawar and JD(U) national president Sharad Yadav is Sriramulu, who has rebelled against BJP and won the Bellary assembly seat as an independent by a huge margin. A loyalist of the Reddy brothers of Bellary, he holds immense clout in the region. So far, Yadav has taken the lead in wooing Sriramulu.

State JD(U) leaders have already convinced Sriramulu to head to Delhi to meet Sharad Yadav and Bihar chief minister Nitish Kumar within the next few days. The JD(U) is making a strong pitch for Sriramulu to join the party to revive its fortunes in Karnataka. On his part, Sriramulu, who has announced his desire to launch a regional party, has dropped clear hints of striking an electoral alliance with the JD(U).

The quiet discontent brewing within the Congress, after the grand old party failed to show any sign of revival in the recent by-polls, has only made the likes of Pawar and Yadav drool over prospects of netting a good catch before the next general elections.

Namma Bangaluru is Garden City/IT City/Education City/Green City /Lake City/Best City in World (We cant live in dirty and filthy conditions , thats why Namma Bangaluru is cleanest one .With parks and gardens,Namma Bangaluru is healthy and beautiful city in world)

Just for old times sake :lol:...Take that @akash

^^...:lol:

We cant live in dirty and filthy conditions , thats why Namma Bangaluru is cleanest one

This is the most funniest one!! I miss KP Muthu's posts!! :lol:

That is why I quoted 27% non-corporate tax (I had posted the stats many times before). Now, someone in UP/Kerala will not pay tax in Mumbai.
Moreover, the discussion here is Mumbai losing its sheen and companies starting in new locations; so how does it retain such a high share of corporate tax for long time now.

The bolded statement is very generic and based on perceptions. There is no doubt NCR is growing; The growth patterns of Mumbai and NCR are different. While Mumbai subsumes the surrounding rural population into urban (and may subsume Pune to become twin cities in around 2-3 decades) NCR is more of a greenfield development.

27% of direct tax is what is mentioned in the article. that includes corporate taxes. mumbai i doubt would be in top 10 indian cities in terms of per capita income and would be surprised if measured based on per capita personal income tax paid.

Bangalore 22.8K Cr
Chennai 17.4K Cr

^^ How much fund Bangalore got from central govt compared to that of Chennai ? Even it gets 30% of Chennai then it easily survives.

Look at Chennai , they got good National Highways, Suburb Railway Network, MRTS, NH Bypass Road, Power from central grid........whereas Bangalore got tirupathi naama. Our politician good at only in fight with each other.
How come Bangalore - Mysore road still state highway? :bash:

Sometimes I fell NHAI, Indian Railway, and whole central govt belongs to Tamilnadu.

bangalore definitely has a much superior nh's compared to chennai. likewise, for mrts too tn govt put in 50% in it's phase1 and 67% for subsequent phases. i don't know what you meant by power from central grid - tn has more power projects compared to ka and would naturally get more power allocated to themselves. but how that power gets distributed to different consumers/cities is determined by state electricity boards and not any central utility.

chennai bypass, yes it is a good highway. but bangalore has nice corridor and these both are toll roads and so how does it matter who built the road or who it was contracted for building it.

chennai metro is large in scale atleast thus far and their larger phase 1 would very likely complete before bangalore.

bangalore has planned phase 2 and need to kick start it soon. not sure why they have delayed for so many years. and ka govt is only to be blamed for confusion around hsrl and similar such unviable metro projects to new airport. for that money they can add many more lines within city.

27% of direct tax is what is mentioned in the article. that includes corporate taxes. mumbai i doubt would be in top 10 indian cities in terms of per capita income and would be surprised if measured based on per capita personal income tax paid.

Again perception based opinion. Just calculate yourself. It is 32% in case of direct tax, which includes corporate and non-corporate tax.

And for non-corporate tax, this is the data for 2007-08.

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/todays-paper/tp-money-banking/article998337.ece

Total India non-corporate tax collection - 100200 Cr
Mumbai -27673 Cr
Thane -1208 Cr
Delhi - 12011 Cr
Bangalore - 8794 Cr
Chennai - 5282 Cr

If you beleive that in two years, this would have changed much, I can not help. Will try to get recent figure. Whatever population you assume for these cities, Mumbai will be undisputed No 1 in per capita non-corporate income tax collection.

I dont beleive in per capita income, GDP statistics, as thay are all guess works.

Auto drivers demanded 25 k monthly income in Mumbai during strikes against meter hampering drive. It was not without reason, because that was their regular income before meter hampering drive.The rentals in slums range anywhere between 3 k to 12k (again because of the earning capcity). The income of the un-organised industry in Mumbai never gets recorded correctly in these guessworks.

Again perception based opinion. Just calculate yourself. It is 32% in case of direct tax, which includes corporate and non-corporate tax.

And for non-corporate tax, this is the data for 2007-08.

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/todays-paper/tp-money-banking/article998337.ece

Total India non-corporate tax collection - 100200 Cr
Mumbai -27673 Cr
Thane -1208 Cr
Delhi - 12011 Cr
Bangalore - 8794 Cr
Chennai - 5282 Cr

If you beleive that in two years, this would have changed much, I can not help. Will try to get recent figure. Whatever population you assume for these cities, Mumbai will be undisputed No 1 in per capita non-corporate income tax collection.

I dont beleive in per capita income, GDP statistics, as thay are all guess works.

Auto drivers demanded 25 k monthly income in Mumbai during strikes against meter hampering drive. It was not without reason, because that was their regular income before meter hampering drive.The rentals in slums range anywhere between 3 k to 12k (again because of the earning capcity). The income of the un-organised industry in Mumbai never gets recorded correctly in these guessworks.


Can't use non corporate tax
Wouldnt Rupee billionaires pay higher percentage? naturally with most billionaires residing in Mumbai will pay higher taxes, thats because they earned thier big money from all over India and sitting in Mumbai, Ianything, you can say Some posh location in Mumbai say Nariman point earns 20% of India's taxes doesnt say much about cities GDP per capita.

Bangalore 22.8K Cr
Chennai 17.4K Cr

^^ How much fund Bangalore got from central govt compared to that of Chennai ? Even it gets 30% of Chennai then it easily survives.

Look at Chennai , they got good National Highways, Suburb Railway Network, MRTS, NH Bypass Road, Power from central grid........whereas Bangalore got tirupathi naama. Our politician good at only in fight with each other.
How come Bangalore - Mysore road still state highway? :bash:

Sometimes I fell NHAI, Indian Railway, and whole central govt belongs to Tamilnadu.

I can agree for NHAI for converting lot of state highways in TN but not for Chennai city or suburban roads, it was handled by state govt
Tell me about Indian railways, My blood boils...
The suburban was built by British in 1935 and for MRTS TN spent 60% of money excluding land. TN got 205km of new lines in the whole of after 1947, if you want details go to Indian railways. It may be the same with Karnataka

I would say Madras was helped by British more than Bangalore and Bangalore got good Central govt institutions/r&d centers etc to diversify from concentrating on the erst while 4 metros which is the prime reason for today's growth in high end engineering/IT/Biotech/Aerospace etc.

And well derserved Bangalore got s.India's first metro

Namma Bangaluru is Garden City/IT City/Education City/Green City /Lake City/Best City in World (We cant live in dirty and filthy conditions , thats why Namma Bangaluru is cleanest one .With parks and gardens,Namma Bangaluru is healthy and beautiful city in world)

Just for old times sake :lol:...Take that @akash

:banana:

^^ :weird:

bangalore definitely has a much superior nh's compared to chennai. likewise, for mrts too tn govt put in 50% in it's phase1 and 67% for subsequent phases. i don't know what you meant by power from central grid - tn has more power projects compared to ka and would naturally get more power allocated to themselves. but how that power gets distributed to different consumers/cities is determined by state electricity boards and not any central utility.


bangalore has planned phase 2 and need to kick start it soon. not sure why they have delayed for so many years. and ka govt is only to be blamed for confusion around hsrl and similar such unviable metro projects to new airport. for that money they can add many more lines within city.
+1

delhi gets funds mostly because it is a state. imagine bangalore alone made a state, which pays 50% tax of karnataka state. or imagine mumbai alone made a state. Delhi budget is around half of karnataka budget but all their expenditure is on infra. giving delhi state status was the worst decision that affects overall india badly :ohno: Let them make delhi city come under UP state :lol: or even union territory means less share of taxes to delhi local govt

Can't use non corporate tax
Wouldnt Rupee billionaires pay higher percentage? naturally with most billionaires residing in Mumbai will pay higher taxes, thats because they earned thier big money from all over India and sitting in Mumbai, Ianything, you can say Some posh location in Mumbai say Nariman point earns 20% of India's taxes doesnt say much about cities GDP per capita.

This logic doesn't work. Only their company earned from all over India. It is their entrepreunership that earned them money and they owe it to the city, they choose to belong. And it is just a fact I am basing to counter-argue the perception that Mumbai is no more attracting businesses. Even if you go by those baseless GDP estimates publised, per capital of Mumbai GDP would be higher (6.3% of Mumbai aganst 4.9% of Delhi)

Even if you assume some 500 HNIs paid an average tax of Rs.10 Crores (very high assumptions on number of HNIs considering the tax amount), you can take away only Rs.5000 Crores. And I am not considering any HNIs for other cities.

^^ yes, for the business they do all over india they pay sales tax or vat to the respective state govts. Which city they make home matters, generally they make any of 3 tier-1 cities their home :cheers: And those who want a beach have no choice but mumbai

Journalism Standards :bash:

Robbers caught in 30 mins in Bangalore (http://www.dnaindia.com/bangalore/report_robbers-caught-in-30-mins-in-bangalore_1626498)

Published: Friday, Dec 16, 2011, 10:36 IST
By DNA Correspondent | Place: Managalore | Agency: DNA

Mangalore police on Thursday caught four miscreants within 30 minutes after they stole a cash box from an ATM-servicing vehicle. The cash box had Rs32 lakh.

Outside an ATM, the robbers diverted the driver’s attention by dropping a Rs10 note in front of him. When the driver stepped out of the vehicle, two of them snatched the cash bag and fled.

“On receiving information, an alert was sounded and our PCR van near Padil spotted the culprits boarding a bus. We intercepted the busbut the robbers escaped. The police gave chase and apprehended them. The operation took just 30 minutes,” said police commissioner Seemanth Kumar Singh.

Just a single letter difference will land u on the coast

Actual story is here (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mangalore/ATM-loot-Cops-in-touch-with-Tamil-Nadu-counterparts/articleshow/11134392.cms)

Some pics from team-bhp

(1) How the other 0.1% lives

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/attachments/super-cars-imports-india/849760d1322593502-supercars-imports-bangalore-img_2357.jpg

(2)

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/attachments/super-cars-imports-india/848117d1322383045-supercars-imports-bangalore-img_3435.jpg

:lol:

Now TCS investing 600Cr in Nagpur///why not Mysore?Mangalore/Belgaum?

The city has grown manifold and so has its demand for energy . But there has neither been any growth in infrastructure nor any paradigm shift in energy resources.

The city has grown manifold and so has its demand for energy . But there has neither been any growth in infrastructure nor any paradigm shift in energy resources.

We know this problem. Thanks again for highlighting it. Now may we know the solution you propose.......

Now TCS investing 600Cr in Nagpur///why not Mysore?Mangalore/Belgaum?

Likely because of geography :) Nagpur is close to north indians.. Good for vidharbha region. belgaum/mangalore/hubli dharwad have no usp, mysore's usp is close proximity to bangalore which is not as useful in many cases.

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:cheers:

Now TCS investing 600Cr in Nagpur///why not Mysore?Mangalore/Belgaum?

Likely because of geography :) Nagpur is close to north indians.. Good for vidharbha region. belgaum/mangalore/hubli dharwad have no usp, mysore's usp is close proximity to bangalore which is not as useful in many cases.

For your information, TCS (or any Indian IT company for that matter) are national (even international) entities, not the property of any one state... I can just as well ask "Why not Surat, Kochi, Chandigarh or Cherapoonji?"

So don't go about saying things like "it's close to North Indians.." that's a racist accusation and I expect better standards from citizens of a city aspiring to be a global hub.

Nagpur is a great city, with many engineering institutes and skilled labour force. On many parameters, it's cheaper than the cities you have mentioned. And having worked in TCS, I can say that it's possibly a conscious social responsibility effort to bring development to a relatively impoverished part of India. Now before you go about blaming Tata for regionalism, may I not ask why they started a premium research institute (IISC) in Bangalore and discriminated against Kolkata, Delhi or Chennai?

So stop this regional paranoia and be happy for a fellow Indian city, whose citizens deserve jobs and development just as anybody else.

(PS: I am not a North Indian, nor a Maharashtrian)

^^Who ever you are,we are not interested :) . ....anyway all we know is You are new to south Indian Discussion threads, welcome

Cannot help,South Indian blood runs high in South Indian forums.:cheers:

I personally feel India should do some balancing act by that way spreading the development to many parts.
Currently Kerala has good train connectivity when compared to other states whereas Karnataka lags so for next few years KN should be given more priority.
That way Bihar lacks many parameters so govt should do more for Bihar as priority.
To some extent private players also should do that keeping in lieu with Govt of India.
This will prevent social unrest and India can develop as a whole rather than some packets like Delhi,Mumbai,Bgl or Chennai etc.

^^Who ever you are,we are not interested :) . ....anyway all we know is You are new to south Indian Discussion threads, welcome

Cannot help,South Indian blood runs high in South Indian forums.:cheers:

Well, that's a sad situation. I feel sorry for such people.

I am just glad that such people aren't at the helm of these companies, and the real south Indian decision makers and policy setters (Chandrasekaran, Narayan Murthy, Premji) don't think in such narrow regionalist terms.

Gentem is a troll. Best to ignore his posts.

the real south Indian decision makers and policy setters (Chandrasekaran, Narayan Murthy, Premji) don't think in such narrow regionalist terms.

yes our politicians are broad minded people.:cheers: from mayawati,to didi to bala saheb,lalu etc etc

Well, that's a sad situation. I feel sorry for such people.

I am just glad that such people aren't at the helm of these companies, and the real south Indian decision makers and policy setters (Chandrasekaran, Narayan Murthy, Premji) don't think in such narrow regionalist terms.

People here are passionate,there was nothing wrong in naveen's post,neither was gentem wrong,North Indians come to South Indian cities and crib about culture,food etc etc have my frnds cribbing even in bangalore,Gentem was right in saying that Nagpur can cater to north indian people's need better with similar food/language/culture.That is the reality.I am a south Indian and I would naturally prefer Bangalore or chennai for jobs.Likewise, northies would prefer north if better jobs are available at their place.

You are a newbie here you will learn to live with us soon :) or you are free to quit.:cheers:

^^ ok.. that sounds like a more balanced statement. I can accept that logic. I am sorry if I misread gentem's quote. But in my defence, it wasn't as clear as the one you just made. Anyway, I'd never quit :), but I wont change my views against regionalism either :cheers: ... but hey, that's just me. Everyone's entitled to an opinion.

^^ ok.. that sounds like a more balanced statement. I can accept that logic. I am sorry if I misread gentem's quote. But in my defence, it wasn't as clear as the one you just made. Anyway, I'd never quit :), but I wont change my views against regionalism either :P ... but hey, that's just me. Everyone's entitled to an opinion.

^^ I just wanted you to realise that you went little overboard in your nationalism lessons:lol:....,,it is not right to call people regionalists on SSC I unless he has walked out straight from &*&&*) Camps..SSC I is a bunch of passionate guys wanting to see their city/region grow it is just that Including you who want to see the nation grow as a whole welcome bro...:cheers:

Yeah... I get what you mean.... I'll keep the rhetorical compulsions in mind henceforth. cheers :cheers: ..!!!

Gentem is a troll. Best to ignore his posts.

This is harsh,gentem definitely posts with some logic which many might feel silly,but atleast logic is working.And that does not make him a troll..

Do you really want to know what trolling means?? here it is.. :P

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=86770966&postcount=4306

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=86770937&postcount=4305

Back to back posts

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=86770633&postcount=6175

Currently Kerala has good train connectivity when compared to other states whereas Karnataka lags so for next few years KN should be given more priority.


Enticing the private sector to help drive development

The aim is to boost growth by providing affordable infrastructure.

Karnataka, which offered a red carpet welcome to the private sector by starting the country’s first private bank and first private education institute, is now luring the private sector for “state building”. The state, which houses the leaders of the global market, is utilising the public-private partnership (PPP) model to create infrastructure — the much-needed component for the growth it envisions by 2020.

The state has a department headed by an Indian Administrative Service officer to formulate plans for this purpose. It is planning a special infrastructure policy to drive development.

The department was established in 1996 to play a significant role in developing air, rail and maritime connectivity for the state and also encourage increased private investment in public infrastructure through public-private partnerships.

Raj Kumar Khatri, secretary to the Infrastructure Development Department, Karnataka, believes the state is on a vibrant growth path and the vision of the government for 2020 specifies high growth through the provision of infrastructure that is affordable, safe and secure. Karnataka, the leader in software exports from India, is planning to increase its rail density, because the railways provide a major part of the state’s logistics.

Presently, the state’s rail density is around 16 km per 1,000 sq km; with an investment of Rs 25,000 crore the state intends to increase this to 41 km per 1,000 sq km. It also has rail projects involving an investment of Rs 24,000 crore under implementation, which will add 2,137 km of new railway lines. Apart from laying new rail tracks, the government has projects for gauge conversion and doubling of tracks.

The state is also investing heavily in increasing connectivity to various locations by road and air. The expansion of the terminal and runway is in progress at the Bangalore International Airport (BIAL) as part of Vision 2020.

“We have a vision for 2020 to make Karnataka a favourable destination for investors, industry and best state for common people to live. Keeping this in mind we are developing various projects in sectors like the railways, road infrastructure, energy, airports, seaports and water supply, among others. We need to invest more than Rs 30,000 crore annually for the next nine years to do this,” said Khatri.

The state is a pioneer in adopting the new PPP model. Currently, the state has a portfolio of around 105 projects in the PPP model. Government sources said that of the PPP projects, 23 are in various stages of implementation, bids have been closed for around 30 projects and 52 others are in the development stages.

Karnataka is also in the process of enhancing state highways 23, 20 and 25 through private partnerships as toll-based build operate transfer (BOT). The tenders for the projects are already in progress. In addition to this, there are 10 projects where feasibility studies have been undertaken.

“The state government understands the need for and importance of private players in creating infrastructure for the state. Other than roads, in the aviation sector we are sorting out ways to include the private sector in the development of airports in the state,” Khatri said.

One of the key reasons for inviting the private sector to partner the state government for infrastructure was the constraint of availability of financial aid from the Centre for projects of utmost importance to the state. Various sectors in Karnataka are witnessing exponential growth and traditional ways of fund allocation from the Union government through various projects and plans were inappropriate.

According to the government, the PPP mode helps in facilitating investment and speeds up project execution. There are a few success stories in the infrastructure sector through PPP, but the model also poses challenges. The challenges dogging project delivery are at the pre-tendering stage, the execution stage and the financing stage.

“Poor planning and engineering at the pre-bid stage, low risk assessment capabilities, land acquisition issues and weak institutional capability of nodal agencies are some examples,” says Khatri. To overcome these issues in the rail sector, which the state government considers vital for growth, it is planning to approach the Railways as a private partner in rail development projects in the state. This is the first of its kind in the country, where a state bids as a private partner.

http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/enticingprivate-sector-to-help-drive-development-/459009/

^^ ok.. that sounds like a more balanced statement. I can accept that logic. I am sorry if I misread gentem's quote. But in my defence, it wasn't as clear as the one you just made. Anyway, I'd never quit :), but I wont change my views against regionalism either :cheers: ... but hey, that's just me. Everyone's entitled to an opinion.

in fact nationalism is very immature, but this is not the place to discuss that :ohno: i had seen a delhiite who was praying for pune placement because it is some 800km closer, and maybe northy culture there. but this nagpur announcement was strange, there was no talk regarding that, it is something like infy in bhuvaneshwar. we are missing tcs in mysore where infy and wipro are already have land. tcs planning 8k-16k staff strength there, but let us see how it goes.

in fact nationalism is very immature, but this is not the place to discuss that :ohno: i had seen a delhiite who was praying for pune placement because it is some 800km closer, and maybe northy culture there. but this nagpur announcement was strange, there was no talk regarding that, it is something like infy in bhuvaneshwar. we are missing tcs in mysore where infy and wipro are already have land. tcs planning 8k-16k staff strength there, but let us see how it goes.

I am never against investment in 2 tier cities it always takes pressure out of Tier 1 Cities - i just want investment come to my region to - North Karnataka which is very very backward region like the Vidarbha and have absolutely no visibility unlike Telangana & Vidarbha and also doesnt get any benefits out of Centre

Damn its so cold today

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Biscuit to dairy products manufacturer, Britannia, run by the Wadia family one of India’s oldest business houses, is drawing up plans to unlock a mega real estate play in the heart of Bangalore.
Britannia, which is India’s largest biscuit manufacturer, has its headquarters spread across a 6-acre plus land parcel that’s situated on old Airport Road, one of the city’s arterial roads connecting the central business district to the IT hub of Whitefield.

in fact nationalism is very immature, but this is not the place to discuss that :ohno: i had seen a delhiite who was praying for pune placement because it is some 800km closer, and maybe northy culture there. but this nagpur announcement was strange, there was no talk regarding that, it is something like infy in bhuvaneshwar. we are missing tcs in mysore where infy and wipro are already have land. tcs planning 8k-16k staff strength there, but let us see how it goes.

its easier for north indians in maharashtra. Same script, which is devnagri.Ram's shop is the same written in marathi or hindi. On the issue of Nagpur, its the fastest growing city in Maharashtra. With the launch of the MIHAN project Nagpur has really taken off.


Given a choice between nagpur and bangalore i will prefer bangalore. Will be bored to death in Nagpur (or any tier 2 city) and want to expand my horizons in a new (compared to mind culture. :cheers:). Need a buzz which is only generated in the top 6. Same for Mysore. I will get bored.

Same for Mysore. I will get bored.

F u...:)

Britannia, which is India’s largest biscuit manufacturer, has its headquarters spread across a 6-acre plus land parcel that’s situated on old Airport Road, one of the city’s arterial roads connecting the central business district to the IT hub of Whitefield.

Its the executive office. HQ is located in Kolkata.

Same for Mysore. I will get bored.

I know, for some people palaces and national parks won't cut it- they need bimbo clubs :banana:

How to sell a new or existing property to get right value?

its easier for north indians in maharashtra. Same script, which is devnagri.Ram's shop is the same written in marathi or hindi. On the issue of Nagpur, its the fastest growing city in Maharashtra. With the launch of the MIHAN project Nagpur has really taken off.


Given a choice between nagpur and bangalore i will prefer bangalore. Will be bored to death in Nagpur (or any tier 2 city) and want to expand my horizons in a new (compared to mind culture. :cheers:). Need a buzz which is only generated in the top 6. Same for Mysore. I will get bored.

Pune doesnt feature in top 6, isnt it good enough? But now tier 2 cities catching up, esp in malls and multiplexes and fine dining too, but im not sure about watering holes :cheers:

Hey all !
I did some research on my own query as no one has replied.
If it is useful for you, please appreciate my endeavour.

In general, two types of newly constructed homes are available for purchase: custom-built homes and spec homes. Whereas the buyer of a custom-built home works closely with architects and builders to determine the features, appearance and structure of the home prior to construction, the buyer of a spec home purchases a finished product. Real estate developers build spec homes from stock plans and, although the developers occasionally offer options, the homes are often constructed prior to sale. Both types of newly constructed homes suit different budgets and design requirements. Start by choosing the type of home to purchase and proceed to finding homes for sale.

Instructions:

1. Contact a local real estate agent to receive personalized search assistance. If you'd like help finding and purchasing a home, a licensed real estate professional can help not only with home selection, but also with financial arrangements. If you plan to build a custom home, real estate .

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Now TCS investing 600Cr in Nagpur///why not Mysore?Mangalore/Belgaum?

Because is not supportive enough..

Because is not supportive enough..

Elaborate

Elaborate

None of them basically look like cities :P

Dont'know if this was posted here before..

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Over the last one decade, Whitefield has developed as a self-sustaining suburban area with the development of residential projects, malls, hospitals, hotels and social infrastructure.
With it developing as an IT hub, over 3.5 lakh techies commute from the city, making the suburb has grown by leaps and bounds. It has 6 international schools and 30,000 apartments.

http://www.bedouk.com/mediatheque/annonceur/3/0/8/0000378803_2.jpg
http://www.bedouk.com/hyderabad-internationa,L64252

Hicc
India's first full-fledged convention centre, Hyderabad International Convention Center, is the most preferred destination in the country to host prestigious summits, conclaves and even weddings. Built in a record time of 14 months, it boasts of a massive internal hall, measuring 6,480 square meters, that can host 5,000 people. The hall in itself in an architectural wonder as it is pillar-free!

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/travel/7-Wonders-of-Hyderabad-Verdict-out/articleshow/11255041.cms

When are we having a decent convention center in bangalore? :ohno:

^^ Isnt it under construction now ??!!!

Over the last one decade, Whitefield has developed as a self-sustaining suburban area with the development of residential projects, malls, hospitals, hotels and social infrastructure.
With it developing as an IT hub, over 3.5 lakh techies commute from the city, making the suburb has grown by leaps and bounds. It has 6 international schools and 30,000 apartments.

It has no water supply.. All water comes from borewells, a number of them have dried up already.

^^ Isnt it under construction now ??!!!

just tender called for it in beggar's colony, tender not awarded, still not u/c. about another convention center near airport nobody knows nothing :ohno: Hyderabad convention center was built in 14 months flat and opened in 2006 itself..

It has no water supply.. All water comes from borewells, a number of them have dried up already.

That's one of many problems in whitefield...

It had all the basic amenities when I was a kid.. it had water, very very little traffic, everyone were locals and knew each other...

No there are only outsiders here..

I may sound like a 70 yr old senior citizen, but that's the kind of change that has happened in whitefield.. some for the good, most for the worse unfortunately...

That's one of many problems in whitefield...

It had all the basic amenities when I was a kid.. it had water, very very little traffic, everyone were locals and knew each other...

No there are only outsiders here..

I may sound like a 70 yr old senior citizen, but that's the kind of change that has happened in whitefield.. some for the good, most for the worse unfortunately...

Thats the case with most of the outskirts of BLR Koramangala/Silkboard u cant survive without hindi :-P

Thats the case with most of the outskirts of BLR Koramangala/Silkboard u cant survive without hindi :-P
yayyyyyy

‘Ugly Indians’
Armed with brooms, mops, small buckets of paint, and truckloads of city pride, a group of masked citizens in Bangalore, India, has spent the better part of the last year cleaning up their trash-ridden city—one block at a time.

Having tasted success—to date, four kilometers of Bangalorean streets have undergone a facelift—the self-titled ‘Ugly Indians’ are pushing for their anti-trash movement to sweep the nation.

“Show us one Indian city that can boast of one kilometre of clean street—with no open garbage dumps, no missing footpath slabs, no urine stench, no paan (betel leaf) stains on walls?” an anonymous member of Ugly Indians told the BBC. “Bangalore, we challenge you, is the only Indian city that now has 4km of streets clean from these four civic ills.”

The group’s founders cherish their anonymity and only respond to interview requests via email.

They also don’t pull any punches in challenging locals to face the facts about the country’s filthy streets.
“It’s time we admitted that many of India’s problems are because many of us are Ugly Indians,” reads a statement on their website. “We tolerate an incredible amount of filth.”

The group says that the trash collecting takes place silently, and most of the volunteers don’t even know each other’s names.
“Anonymity is a hugely successful strategy,” a volunteer told the BBC. “Labels take away all the good work. Then it becomes so-and-so’s movement.”

The Ugly Indians say their operation works like this:

* Members self-select themselves by writing to theuglyindian@gmail.com
* Volunteers are not called for - those that write in are filtered
* Equal number of men and women
*Not an NGO - rather it is made up of self-driven and motivated people who come to work and not to socialise

In fact, the group says most people do not even know each others' names - the work takes place silently.

Inspection test
The Treasure Hunt was a challenge for anyone to find an ugly spot on the cleaned streets.The Facebook page declared that "Bangalore successfully passed the Inspection Test".

Paan was still being spat, but was largely directed at the bins, and vigilant Ugly Indians immediately painted over stains that hit a wall.

The work has won the affection of the local constabulary. Basavaraj, a constable at the nearby Cubbon Park police station, said: "These people do first-class work every week. See how clean the road has become. Good people, they don't even give their name."

One young, Ugly Indian at work told me: "Anonymity is a hugely successful strategy. Labels take away all the good work. Then it becomes so-and-so's movement. Like Kiran Bedi's or Anna Hazare's. We don't want that.

"We don't want to make a big deal about it. We even refused funding because we don't want people to tell us they want their name or logo on it. We want people to take ownership. Which is why they can help by sharing labour, lending skilled masons, painters. Or by sponsoring bins."

A local handicrafts shopkeeper, Vishnu Das, also approached me.
He said: "This entire road that you are seeing had become a urine point, especially for auto-rickshaw drivers. Unbearable smell. But these people cleaned up this place with their hands. I was so surprised why anyone would do that."
Today the stench has been replaced by a pleasant patch of flowers and a mini-garden, adopted by the famous Bishop Cotton Girls School.

Nitya and Kirtana, both 22, were among those who had turned up for the Treasure Hunt.
The law student and her friend, a kindergarten teacher, had been following the Ugly Indians on Facebook.

Walking along MG Road with Ugly Indians picking up rubbish, the two were all praise for the group.
"We used to feel terrible on seeing all the muck around. We have even yelled at people who threw stuff out of their car, it just didn't help. As much as it shames us to say this, we wouldn't have done all this cleaning up and on such a scale on our own," says Nitya.

So how did their parents react to their support for the street-cleaning campaign?
"They were pretty okay with it, but they asked us to clean our rooms first."

http://www.grist.org/i/assets/uglyindians_before
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http://www.grist.org/i/assets/uglyindians_after
After

Source : Link (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-15769402)

Some interesting vids on how these guys are cleaning up the city!!

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It’s an address privy to not even the creamy one per cent of Bangalore society. It envelopes itself in a Garboesque mystique and privacy such that nobody other than the handful who live there and their guests know of the life behind the discreet compound walls of Epsilon.
Named after the fifth letter of the Greek alphabet, ‘Epsilon’ aptly means a ‘small quantity.’ The small number of residents who call this home includes cricketer Rahul Dravid and heir to the Wipro empire, Rishad Premji. Add tech moguls, expat CEOs, top industrialists, venture capitalists, wealthy NRIs to this ‘by-invitation-only’ enclave, and you get the picture.

Thats the case with most of the outskirts of BLR Koramangala/Silkboard u cant survive without hindi :-P
That is not correct...i have worked in kormangala for 7 years now and also stay there for 3 days in a week for the last year, many (more than 50%) people know kannada...

you can easily not know Hindi and survive and but the vice versa is also true :-)

^^ that is true, naveen being little pessimistic here :ohno: if you talk to any shopkeeper in kannada he will reply back, but kannda people themselves dont talk thinking others may not know. better start talking in kannada and if the other guy doesnt know then talk english/hindi, people want to maintain level by not talking mother tongue :bash:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1228

I love to see this once in a while, login to SSC & see lot of updates :-) :banana::banana::banana::banana:

^^ you can subscribe threads in other subforums and new posts threads will appear in "usercp" link on top


* Members self-select themselves by writing to theuglyindian@gmail.com
* Volunteers are not called for - those that write in are filtered
* Equal number of men and women
*Not an NGO - rather it is made up of self-driven and motivated people who come to work and not to socialise

Source : Link (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-15769402)

yella ok, equal number of men and women yaake? :cheers:

^^ you can subscribe threads in other subforums and new posts threads will appear in "usercp" link on top



yella ok, equal number of men and women yaake? :cheers:

I hate it when i go to some threads and find some alien language chants and no updates.

^^ you can leave if you hate.. alien/local languages are used only in discussion threads

^^ you can leave if you hate.. alien/local languages are used only in discussion threads


Gentem guruve naan matadta irode illi alla... bere threads where i have seen no updates since years just blah blah blah not discussion threads


http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=87059429#post87059429

see the number of updates and number of timepass talk

Gentem guruve naan matadta irode illi alla... bere threads where i have seen no updates since years just blah blah blah not discussion threads


http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=87059429#post87059429

see the number of updates and number of timepass talk

be a roman when in rome ;)

Thats the case with most of the outskirts of BLR Koramangala/Silkboard u cant survive without hindi :-P

I recently did a trip to Hubli,Karwar and udupi ..Hindi is enough to survive in these places :) I love Hubli Hindi.

Hubli autowallahs have good taste(unlike their counterparts in Bangaluru who play some useless songs),traveled in autos there and..Guess what???

E haad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfW1GguEKLA) baari dhumshaan hawa maad bitaethee poora hubli amayal Namma Belgaum nyaag :) kaelak yasht araam anasthaethi

:banana:

be a roman when in rome ;)

They never act kannadiga when they are here

They never act kannadiga when they are here

Silly

:doh: let them be how they wish to be....:nuts:

Silly

:doh: let them be how they wish to be....:nuts:

hogli bidu/

hogli bidu/

:)

hogli bidu/

:) maathadi use illa..

lokpal gone for god's sake :bash: central govt not taking even small decisions before UP elections...

:) maathadi use illa..

lokpal gone for god's sake :bash: central govt not taking even small decisions before UP elections...

Its not gone - its in limbo. But I do believe UPA-II is gone beyond paralysis.
Their alliance with TMC clearly isn't working - as TMC behaves more like opposition than ruling party - in vetoing everything the government does.

Perhaps UPA-II should bite the bullet - and pass a controversial reform like FDI in retail. Best case - It passes, with TMC sulking and the govt can get invigorated both domestically and internationally as a government with soem balls. Worst case TMC pulls out and the country goes into general elections - with everyone blaming TMC which will hopefully make that backwards-thinking, confused party more responsible - and this farce of a paralyzed governance coming to an end!!

Its not gone - its in limbo. But I do believe UPA-II is gone beyond paralysis.
Their alliance with TMC clearly isn't working - as TMC behaves more like opposition than ruling party - in vetoing everything the government does.

Perhaps UPA-II should bite the bullet - and pass a controversial reform like FDI in retail. Best case - It passes, with TMC sulking and the govt can get invigorated both domestically and internationally as a government with soem balls. Worst case TMC pulls out and the country goes into general elections - with everyone blaming TMC which will hopefully make that backwards-thinking, confused party more responsible - and this farce of a paralyzed governance coming to an end!!

Even Lalu and DMK are against it. Corrupt morons

Its not gone - its in limbo. But I do believe UPA-II is gone beyond paralysis.
Their alliance with TMC clearly isn't working - as TMC behaves more like opposition than ruling party - in vetoing everything the government does.

Perhaps UPA-II should bite the bullet - and pass a controversial reform like FDI in retail. Best case - It passes, with TMC sulking and the govt can get invigorated both domestically and internationally as a government with soem balls. Worst case TMC pulls out and the country goes into general elections - with everyone blaming TMC which will hopefully make that backwards-thinking, confused party more responsible - and this farce of a paralyzed governance coming to an end!!

congress did all things so that it should not pass. they could introduce bill in rajya sabha first, also they could have introduced much early. also second day was wasted.

they added minority provision so that bjp will oppose and compulsory lokayukta provision so that regional parties like tmc dmk will oppose.

now anna will campaign in up, punjab etc, let them suffer.

congress did all things so that it should not pass. they could introduce bill in rajya sabha first, also they could have introduced much early. also second day was wasted.

they added minority provision so that bjp will oppose and compulsory lokayukta provision so that regional parties like tmc dmk will oppose.

now anna will campaign in up, punjab etc, let them suffer.
Firstly let me say that i am a supporter of the congress only because of the lack of any other viable alternative..

TMC is clearly the problem in UPA..mamata is a spoke in all major decisions bcos she is highly populist..its best for the UPA to dump her after state elections..she is also ruining the railways..

With regards to Anna, i personally think he will have no impact on the state polls. Let him campaign vigorously in all the states. We will come to a conclusion on March 4th.

yes we have to choose less evil party. but in past congress lost all allies because it imposed things on states, like this lokayukta clause.

anna must be credited solely for bringing lokpal bill to limelight, even me was unaware of such an agency scuttled for 40 years. now scuttled for 3 more months. but it will surely come after up polls thanks to anna.
other reforms also required.

http://i.imgur.com/0anqB.jpg
TV viewership stats.

Firstly let me say that i am a supporter of the congress only because of the lack of any other viable alternative..


Yes nobody is more corrupt than these congress men

How is Karwar Akash? I hope you enjoyed your trip.

How is Karwar Akash? I hope you enjoyed your trip.

Karwar is awesome CD,Just loved the atmosphere there so pristine and serene.

I have added more pics in this thread http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1473729

I will upload few more pics of uttara kannada stay tuned....:)

I found Surathkal beach the most beautiful of all in my entire trip,I will be posting pics of Udupi soon.Udupi is clean and it is getting modern every passing day. :banana:

Wanted to cover Mangalore in my trip but missed it this time again :nuts: due to time constraint,but got a chance to just pass through it during the night.Mangalore looks awesome modern.

Karwar is seeing some sea bird expansion,Navy guys have barricaded the entire boundary :nuts:

Wishing you a very and prosperous New Year! :cheers:

posting from the population stats thread..as we keep hearing a lot about "migration" from some forumers.

B]Migration Analysis done by Indian Institute of Urban Settlements[/B]

Maps for Estimated Migration (2001-11)

IIHS Analysis is based on the inter-state migration rates presented in Table 24of the NSS 64th round for the year 2007-08. Population was extrapolated for this year using Census of India’s population data from 2001 and 2011. Data from Reserve Bank of India, 2007-08 has been used for mapping the state GDP.

Map 1

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7037/indiamigration1.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/267/indiamigration1.jpg/)


Map 2

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/9927/indiamigration2.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/141/indiamigration2.jpg/)

Map 3

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3670/indiamigration3.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/141/indiamigration3.jpg/)

Map 4

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Not sure why "maps" are not showing new states. Probably for statistical reasons.

Thanks Suncity.

TV viewership stats.
seems telugu hasnt overtaken tamil in bangalore after all..

Thanks Suncity.
not much to take from these maps, all some weird arrows :bash:

Hindi is a foreign language for Gujaratis, says Gujarat high court (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/ahmedabad/Hindi-is-a-foreign-language-for-Gujaratis-says-Gujarat-high-court/articleshow/11321862.cms)
TNN | Jan 1, 2012, 05.34AM IST
The high court made the observations in a case filed by farmers from Junagadh objecting to the NHAI publishing a notification in Hindi.
AHMEDABAD: The Gujarat high court has said that Hindi is a foreign language for Gujaratis. Even the state government-run primary schools teach in Gujarati, the court said.

The high court made the observations in a case filed by farmers from Junagadh objecting to the National Highways Authority of India (NHAI) publishing a notification in Hindi. In 2006, the NHAI planned to widen the existing two-lane national highway 8D to four lanes. The alignment of the bypass was changed last year on various grounds.

This hurt farmers in Junagadh and Rajkot. Farmers from Junagadh's Saraghvada village moved the HC as their land would be acquired. They alleged the plan was changed to benefit influential people. As per Section 3(A) 3 of the National Highways Act, notification about a change in plan should have been published in Gujarati. NHAI though published it only in Hindi and English.

Justice V M Sahai, who heard the case on December 29, concluded that by not publishing the notification in Gujarati, NHAI committed an error. He quashed last year's notification and declared the process as null and void. The court, however, refused to cancel the project.

The judge upheld the petitioners' argument that Hindi is not understood by the residents of Junagadh. "The language used by the petitioners in this area is Gujarati and Hindi language used in the notification is a foreign language for them. The normal spoken language in the region is Gujarati and not Hindi. Similarly, government imparts education in primary school level in Gujarati," the court observed.
awareness spreads from tamil nadu till gujarat :banana: gujarat's raj thakrey will come out soon..

Happy new year 2012 :cheers:

Hindi is a foreign language for Gujaratis, says Gujarat high court (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/ahmedabad/Hindi-is-a-foreign-language-for-Gujaratis-says-Gujarat-high-court/articleshow/11321862.cms)
TNN | Jan 1, 2012, 05.34AM IST
The high court made the observations in a case filed by farmers from Junagadh objecting to the NHAI publishing a notification in Hindi.

awareness spreads from tamil nadu till gujarat :banana: gujarat's raj thakrey will come out soon..

But gujarati seems to be a derivative of hindi...second order derivative may be and same goes for marathi too which is a complex form of Hindi.For that very reason south indians tend to call anything north of karnataka and AP as north India :cheers:

For south Indians (dravidian languages) hindi is definitely an alien language but not FOR Marathi and Gujarati which are derived more or less from hindi :cheers:

GJ HC's verdict will be challenged in SC and SC will definitely squash GJ HC's verdict.Victory to Hindi :banana2:

Hindi is a foreign language for Gujaratis, says Gujarat high court (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/ahmedabad/Hindi-is-a-foreign-language-for-Gujaratis-says-Gujarat-high-court/articleshow/11321862.cms)
TNN | Jan 1, 2012, 05.34AM IST
The high court made the observations in a case filed by farmers from Junagadh objecting to the NHAI publishing a notification in Hindi.

awareness spreads from tamil nadu till gujarat :banana: gujarat's raj thakrey will come out soon..
When there is awareness there is no need for Thakreys or similar one...

That's one of many problems in whitefield...

It had all the basic amenities when I was a kid.. it had water, very very little traffic, everyone were locals and knew each other...

No there are only outsiders here..

I may sound like a 70 yr old senior citizen, but that's the kind of change that has happened in whitefield.. some for the good, most for the worse unfortunately...

I'm not sure what exactly outsiders are responsible for. There are lakhs of south indians in delhi for example. Are they outsiders? I don't think so. I agree that some outsiders do make fun of the local language, culture, way of life etc and they should not do so but lets not link infrastructure with outsiders. If the karnataka government wants Bangalore/Karnataka to be a global investment destination, outsiders are bound to come. It is the job of outsiders not to ridicule locals but rather to live in harmony with them. Having said that, its also true the BBMP and GoK need to provide the amenities that the city needs. If there are poor amenities, the Government needs to bear much of the blame.

^^I remember this incident - one northie guy got trashed badly by the locals for making vulgar statements in hindi,he was spared from further blows as he was accompanied by his gf, so the guys let him go.I remember it created a huge traffic jam on sheshadri road.

Just respect the local lang and culture.Simple if you act smart then &**((&* :cheers:

I'm not sure what exactly outsiders are responsible for. There are lakhs of south indians in delhi for example. Are they outsiders? I don't think so. I agree that some outsiders do make fun of the local language, culture, way of life etc

South Indians inherently are disciplined :cheers: That is the fact accept it or not...

delhi is also pretty accepting of people from outside, as is bangalore (i have lived in both), That is the fact accept it or not.

South Indians inherently are disciplined :cheers: That is the fact accept it or not...

On the other hand, I have to say south indians are on the whole more easy going. There is an aggressivness in Delhi which is largely absent in Bangalore or Chennai or Pune. Women are also safer.

I'm not sure what exactly outsiders are responsible for. There are lakhs of south indians in delhi for example. Are they outsiders? I don't think so. I agree that some outsiders do make fun of the local language, culture, way of life etc and they should not do so but lets not link infrastructure with outsiders. If the karnataka government wants Bangalore/Karnataka to be a global investment destination, outsiders are bound to come. It is the job of outsiders not to ridicule locals but rather to live in harmony with them. Having said that, its also true the BBMP and GoK need to provide the amenities that the city needs. If there are poor amenities, the Government needs to bear much of the blame.

You have completely mistaken my statement...

Whitefield was a small hamlet (as late as 2000), By outsiders I don't mean `alien'. Back then, everyone knew each other, it was a small social unit.
With The IT investments came an influx of people who didn't grow up in Whitefield (Even other Bangaloreans and people from other parts of K'taka) were outsiders for us.

I was talking about a purely social perspective.

Now that Whitefield has become a globally renowned and people from other states and even other countries call it home, BBMP and GoK are largely neglecting it!

I only said I liked the quieter Whitefield better. That's all. That's a personal opinion

South Indians inherently are disciplined :cheers: That is the fact accept it or not...

+1

You have completely mistaken my statement...

Whitefield was a small hamlet (as late as 2000), By outsiders I don't mean `alien'. Back then, everyone knew each other, it was a small social unit.
With The IT investments came an influx of people who didn't grow up in Whitefield (Even other Bangaloreans and people from other parts of K'taka) were outsiders for us.

I was talking about a purely social perspective.

Now that Whitefield has become a globally renowned and people from other states and even other countries call it home, BBMP and GoK are largely neglecting it!

I only said I liked the quieter Whitefield better. That's all. That's a personal opinion

Oh you meant it in that sense. Fine, my bad. I thought you were speaking against other state people or something xenophobic. Happy to know it wasn't. :):lol:

^^I probably shouldn't have used the word outsiders..

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seems telugu hasnt overtaken tamil in bangalore after all..


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The TV stats somewhat resonates the population stats of BLR before the IT era as I know it. However it doesn't reflect the 'cosmo' nature of BLR because the % of non-Kannada viewership is mostly shared by Tamil and Telugu which are neighboring state languages. So, they shouldn't take this as a barometer for measuring BLR's cosmo status.

The TV stats somewhat resonates the population stats of BLR before the IT era as I know it. However it doesn't reflect the 'cosmo' nature of BLR because the % of non-Kannada viewership is mostly shared by Tamil and Telugu which are neighboring state languages. So, they shouldn't take this as a barometer for measuring BLR's cosmo status.

Compare it with other cities' stats u will get to know the cosmo status

Bangalore: Green space at Whitefield
Luna Dewan, The New Indian Express


BANGALORE: Whitefield residents need not face the gruelling traffic on Bangalore roads or travel over twenty kilometers to catch the fresh air of Lalbagh. The State Horticulture Department is all set to establish a botanical garden similar to Lalbagh at Kannamangala. This will give that part of the city a much-needed lung space.

A unit of the State Horticulture Department, the elite seed coconut farm, is spread across an area of about 68 acres at Kannamangala, near Whitefield. This area is to be converted into a botanical garden very soon and it is to be christened as East Lalbagh, said Dr S Ashwath, Joint Director of Horticulture (Parks and Gardens).

“In the last three decades, we had been growing nearly 80 different varieties of hybrid palm species on this particular piece of land. But due to water scarcity, the growth of these seeds were affected. Hence, we decided to convert it into a botanical garden,” he elaborated.
Bangalore: Green space at Whitefield

The project is estimated to cost Rs 1.90 crores. “We have begun with the preliminary works,” he said and added, “Since water is a major issue, we have started with the installing the irrigation network. Besides rejuvenating the existing borewells, drilling of four new borewells have been completed. We are now in the process of installing pumpsets. We plan to install a sprinkler irrigation system here. Come monsoon and we will begin with the planting of different species of plants, shrubs, trees, and indoor plants as we now have at Lalbagh.”

Once the lawns are developed over the next one year, the department will open the garden for public view. The primary attraction at East Lalbagh will be the rare varieties of orchids the department is planning to grow here. Ashwath said, “We have started procuring different species of orchids from other states like West Bengal, Sikkim and other places from within Karnataka as well. Steps have been taken to retain the different species of palm trees that grow in the area too.”

There are plans to develop similar botanical gardens at five different places in the State. “Chikkaballapur, Tumkur, Mysore, Sirsi and Belgaum will soon see botanical gardens similar to the Lalbagh. Construction work has begun in all the five cities,” said Dr Aswath.
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/green-space-at-whitefield/216937-62-132.html

Bangalore: Green space at Whitefield

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/green-space-at-whitefield/216937-62-132.html

That's fantastic news!

68 acres is not big enough. Present lalbagh is around 240 acres.

68 acres is not big enough. Present lalbagh is around 240 acres.

Actually there were plans of a large lalbagh-like botanical garden at gunjur (6 km south of whitefield)

Kannamangala is 6 km north of whitefield. And I agree, 68 acres is small

Actually there were plans of a large lalbagh-like botanical garden at gunjur (6 km south of whitefield)

Kannamangala is 6 km north of whitefield. And I agree, 68 acres is small

Bangalore needs more lalbaghs like almost every corner,better we plan now itself :)

BTW saw this written at nyandahalli ORR - BDA - architects of modern bangalore :lol:

68 acres is not big enough. Present lalbagh is around 240 acres.

Add to it 1.6 crores :ohno:....how do they expect to setup a botanical garden in 1.6 crores??....even the MG road boulevard is upwards of 5 cr

Bangalore needs more lalbaghs like almost every corner,better we plan now itself :)



But to be fair most of the new areas have a good number of parks and playgrounds
And yes we need more lalbagh/cubbon parks in all corners....something like central park :cheers:

But to be fair most of the new areas have a good number of parks and playgrounds
And yes we need more lalbagh/cubbon parks in all corners....something like central park :cheers:

+1

Bangalore has lots of well maintained parks and lakes,no doubt.Something which other metros lack,that is what I have experienced.

Lalbagh concept is different,where you create a huge green space enough to cater to the needs of say 4-5 layouts.

I would vote for Mr Ashok Kheny as the architect of modern Bangalore :)

Bangalore needs more lalbaghs like almost every corner,better we plan now itself :)

BTW saw this written at nyandahalli ORR - BDA - architects of modern bangalore :lol:

Saw what written??

But gujarati seems to be a derivative of hindi...second order derivative may be and same goes for marathi too which is a complex form of Hindi.For that very reason south indians tend to call anything north of karnataka and AP as north India :cheers:

For south Indians (dravidian languages) hindi is definitely an alien language but not FOR Marathi and Gujarati which are derived more or less from hindi :cheers:

GJ HC's verdict will be challenged in SC and SC will definitely squash GJ HC's verdict.Victory to Hindi :banana2:

Wrong!! Hindi, Marathi and other 'north indian' languages are all derived from Sanskrit.
Marathi uses the Devanagari script unlike Gujarati or Bengali. That makes it identifiable with Hindi.

Compare it with other cities' stats u will get to know the cosmo status
In my opinion, large numbers of neighboring state language speaking people doesn't contribute to the cosmo status of a city in a country like India where there tons of languages and cultures. It should go beyond the neighboring states. What I am trying to say is when someone talks about the cosmo status of BLR, they have to quote examples of a diversified workforce, people talking a variety of languages on the streets etc. and not the TV viewership.

Saw what written??

BDA - the architect of modern bangaluru :cheers:

Wrong!! Hindi, Marathi and other 'north indian' languages are all derived from Sanskrit.
Marathi uses the Devanagari script unlike Gujarati or Bengali. That makes it identifiable with Hindi.

k

Hindi is pervading pretty nicely in the south

One nation One language theory :)

In my opinion, large numbers of neighboring state language speaking people doesn't contribute to the cosmo status of a city in a country like India where there tons of languages and cultures. It should go beyond the neighboring states. What I am trying to say is when someone talks about the cosmo status of BLR, they have to quote examples of a diversified workforce, people talking a variety of languages on the streets etc. and not the TV viewership.

For that the stats collected should be for all the languages which i don't see.
Well its better than any Metro in India (ofcourse after Mumbai )

For that the stats collected should be for all the languages which i don't see.
...

This is exactly what I am saying too.

k

Hindi is pervading pretty nicely in the south

One nation One language theory :)

I realized that after I moved to the US. Most Kannadigas from Karnataka are fluent in Hindi. Its impossible to make differentiate them from a Mumbaikar.

Wrong!! Hindi, Marathi and other 'north indian' languages are all derived from Sanskrit.
Marathi uses the Devanagari script unlike Gujarati or Bengali. That makes it identifiable with Hindi.

Script apart, Sanskrit has not much to do with indian languages. Hindi and all other north indian languages have persian/europian influence as most words end without a vowel. Like they say Raam for Raama, which is pronounced properly only in 4 dravidian languages like sanskrit. This eating up last letter is there in english persian also as even english names/words end not with a vowel :cheers:

Kannda people of this generation are fluent mostly because of old hindi DD programmes like raamayan etc. Now regional language tv channels are easily available, next gen kannadigas will have difficulty in speaking hindi :banana:

http://i.imgur.com/0anqB.jpg

This is exactly what I am saying too.

I think that tv stats had included all languages

next gen kannadigas will have difficulty in speaking hindi :banana:



silly

^^ huchcha :weird:

k

Hindi is pervading pretty nicely in the south

One nation One language theory :)

One good hindi word for you, gaddhaar :bash:

^^ huchcha :weird:



One good hindi word for you, gaddhaar :bash:

take it Bus conductor in chennai spoke to me Hindi,if that is the case forget Karnataka next gen....:) Even most of the Tamil MPs have learnt hindi :cheers::banana:

take it Bus conductor in chennai spoke to me Hindi,if that is the case forget Karnataka next gen....:) Even most of the Tamil MPs have learnt hindi :cheers::banana:
Even all is 55. btw hope you are not referring to Narayanasamy. A CISF constable in Delhi airport spoke in Tamil so what? Everyone sings Kolaveri so what? MTC employs atleast 10k bus conductors. He tried to help you and you are making stories out of it...

Even all is 55. btw hope you are not referring to Narayanasamy. A CISF constable in Delhi airport spoke in Tamil so what? Everyone sings Kolaveri so what? MTC employs atleast 10k bus conductors. He tried to help you and you are making stories out of it...


:doh: whats your problem??? Dont you get the context ???:nuts:

This is exactly what I am saying too.

For that the stats collected should be for all the languages which i don't see.
Well its better than any Metro in India (ofcourse after Mumbai )

You should not read between the lines.

:doh: whats your problem??? Dont you get the context ???:nuts:
All I see is Hindi is everywhere propaganda :bash:. He should have not bought MTC into this.

All I see is Hindi is everywhere propaganda :bash:. He should have not bought MTC into this.

Best to ignore baseless comments.. Propaganda is fine as long as they can justify with some facts. If you observe few comments here they are simply saying we are winning we are winning :nuts:, best not to reply

@Akash
Being such a senior member in the forum , you should know what is right/wrong. What to update what not. The way you jump into the topic is like No difference between you and new joinee like me. Most of your comments here is pro-Hindi. I respect your contribution to KA/Blr threads, being such a person you should support Kannada more than Hindi otherwise whole KA against you.
Don’t think that entire Karnataka is like Belgaum/Bidar.
Hope you keep away from this kinda discussion next time & support Kannada always.
Jai Karnataka.:cheers:

I like Hindi. I speak Hindi.
I like Kannada. I speak Kannada.
You're reading English. I like English.

Liking Hindi != Anti Kannada.

I did not perceive any 'anti' sentiment in engineer.akash's posts.

For a state that has the most number of spoken languages, both indigenous and borrowed, we have the highest Jnanpeeth winners. Kannada literature has thrived and is thriving. The language is making its mark.

For a country that has the most number of languages, its people cannot afford to harbor anti-language sentiments.


~Manku Thimma.

^^ you guys have nothing better to discuss. Language and religion always creates distance between people...anyways...

Sophisticated skywalk to come up at Domlur

The design and plan for the skywalk, set to come up opposite Dell India office on the Inner Ring Road, was presented by Embassy Property Developers before a few officials of the Bruhat Bangalore Mahanagara Palike at Hotel Leela Palace on December 28.

The Rs 5.5-crore project, to be entirely funded by the private builder, also includes beautification of the area beneath the Domlur flyover into a garden-cum-recreation space at a cost of Rs 3 crore. The skywalk will have an escalator and an elevator on both sides of the structure that will provide access to the top, apart from a spiralling emergency staircase.

Amit Ahuja, Manager (Corporate Affairs), Embassy Developers, told Deccan Herald that a Singapore-based firm had been chosen to implement the design of the project.
“The entire cost of the project will be borne by us and the BBMP has no role to play in it. This will make it easy for the Palike to allow the project,” said Amit.

Part of the project involves planting 12 different varieties of trees. The landscape design concept submitted by the Embassy group shows a parking space for 30 vehicles, entry-exit gates, sculptures, bridge-over-nala, water features, lawn and recreation spaces.

However, the bone of contention between the BBMP and Embassy is the advertisement rights and a few other trivial issues.

B T Ramesh, engineer-in-chief, BBMP, said: “While Embassy wants a minimum 10-year advertisement rights on the hoardings on the skywalk, the BBMP is yet to accept the proposal. The Palike is figuring out if it can do so on a revenue-sharing basis.”

Officials in the BBMP claim one faction is strongly opposed to the idea of escalators for skywalks. They feel such structures will pose risks to users — senior citizens slipping and falling while climbing; and saris, skirts and lungis getting stuck in the escalator.
Domlur corporator Geeta Srinivas Reddy says projects, which beautify the area and help pedestrians and residents, should be encouraged.

“I was very keen on implementing this project in Domlur. Now, all that remains to be solved is the ad rights, which the BBMP will have to decide in one of the council meetings,” said Geeta.

The corporator feels the Palike should relax rules for private firms which come forward to build such projects for the benefit of the people.

According to Embassy, the project will be completed in about seven months once the BBMP gives it the green signal.


source (http://www.deccanherald.com/content/216357/sophisticated-skywalk-come-up-domlur.html)

I like Hindi. I speak Hindi.
I like Kannada. I speak Kannada.
You're reading English. I like English.

Liking Hindi != Anti Kannada.

I did not perceive any 'anti' sentiment in engineer.akash's posts.

For a state that has the most number of spoken languages, both indigenous and borrowed, we have the highest Jnanpeeth winners. Kannada literature has thrived and is thriving. The language is making its mark.

For a country that has the most number of languages, its people cannot afford to harbor anti-language sentiments.


~Manku Thimma.

Maga, have look at his comments.

GJ HC's verdict will be challenged in SC and SC will definitely squash GJ HC's verdict. Victory to Hindi :banana:
Imagine situation happened to Karnataka, will he still oppose the HC verdict?

Hindi is pervading pretty nicely in the south.

Again, don’t you think we will loose kannada as our identity by next generation.

take it Bus conductor in Chennai spoke to me Hindi, if that is the case forget Karnataka next gen....
what the hell does this mean ? :bash:


We have the highest Jnanpeeth winners. Kannada literature has thrived and is thriving.
This will only become history after Hindi invasion. We will enjoy only our past. That’s my concern.

I know I won’t get much support in the forum as am less contributor. But still happy for being fight for my language :). Bye.

Sophisticated skywalk to come up at Domlur


source (http://www.deccanherald.com/content/216357/sophisticated-skywalk-come-up-domlur.html)

two more skywalk coming up near old airport road (HAL gate) and In Marathahalli.

^^ thanks gowdre.. thewanderer cant notice blatant words of treason. Some money minded people dont bother about culture etc. Hindi is good for their economy, so go for it?? Today they will sell their state/language for small self business benefit, tomorrow if possible they will sell their country and next they will sell off their friends/family

BANGALORE: A mall will come up in the place of Ejipura slum in Koramangala, and thanks to the BBMP, the 1,512 families living here will get new houses within a year and a half. With this, the proposal to construct a group housing complex for the weaker section of society and a mall by a private builder, has finally seen the light of day.

On Monday, a memorandum of understanding was signed between BBMP and Maverick Holdings & Investments Private Limited on the development of a housing complex for economically weaker sections at Koramangala.

"As per the agreement, the land will be developed on private partnership. Maverick will construct 1,512 houses at the cost of Rs 300 crore, and a commercial complex or mall will also be constructed. There is no financial outgo for BBMP in this project. There are 1,512 houses at Ejipura slum now, and they are in a dilapidated condition. All the slum-dwellers will be rehabilitated in the group housing complex. As per the agreement, the builder must also provide temporary rehabilitation for the slum dwellers while construction is going on," said BBMP engineer in chief B T Ramesh.

On the 15 acres of land in front of National Games Village on Koramagala 100 Feet Road, the builder will come up with a commercial complex which will fetch BBMP Rs 1.7 crore for every three months as rent. The land has been given to the builder for a 30-year period and as per the agreement, the maintenance of the premises is on the builder.

In 2003 and 2007, some of the Ejipura housing blocks had collapsed due to poor construction and led to the death of many slum dwellers.

link (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bangalore/Ejipura-slum-dwellers-to-get-homes-next-to-mall/articleshow/11344748.cms)

Hope Bangalore become slum free city soon.

^^ thanks gowdre.. thewanderer cant notice blatant words of treason. Some money minded people dont bother about culture etc. Hindi is good for their economy, so go for it?? Today they will sell their state/language for small self business benefit, tomorrow if possible they will sell their country and next they will sell off their friends/family

Hindi is good for economy itself is a myth. If Hindi can bring economic prosperity, BIMARU states would have not ended up extending begger bowl.

Note: BIMARU-Bihar,MAdhyapradesh,Rajastan,Uttarpradesh

English beats every other language and is widely used all over India, so cool it :lol: and stop this language bashing.

^^ yes, next gen will be only two languages, that is english+regional ;)

^^ I would like to see my state language as kanglish instead of kanhindglish. :)

^^ yes, next gen will be only two languages, that is english+regional ;)

British has made a fool of Indians, we are fighting among ourselves in preserving the regional language and not worrying about English. There is no doubt that English is a fine language, I would preserve it in venigar :cheers:

Gowdru: No. of posts is no indicator of anything :)
Don't know what that language fight you refer to stands for though, or what seems to have triggered it. The history of this land has been more magnanimous and inclusive.
For the record, I still don't find anything 'anti' regional language in those posts you've quoted.

Gentem: Your tangent has been most amusing. Thank you.

Btw, what's that thing you have in your signature about patriotism (and therefore identity) and such?

Signing off now, for more of the real world.

Good day to ye'all.

Gowdru: No. of posts is no indicator of anything :)
Don't know what that language fight you refer to stands for though, or what seems to have triggered it. The history of this land has been more magnanimous and inclusive.
For the record, I still don't find anything 'anti' regional language in those posts you've quoted.

Gentem: Your tangent has been most amusing. Thank you.

Btw, what's that thing you have in your signature about patriotism (and therefore identity) and such?

Signing off now, for more of the real world.

Good day to ye'all.

The wanderer ignore these bunch of petty regionalists,they are useless to the society.Move on

Promoting Hindi is not equal to killing kannada.

Ass &&*)) need to relaise that Kannada has won the highest number of janpeeth award along with Hindi,Our language is getting enriched with time an d that is more important.

Kannada population <<<<< Hindi population but still we managed to get highest number of janpeeth awards.Shows how rich Kannada language is....:cheers:

Idiots here fail to realize that watching regional movies or speaking a regional wont help a language at all.....for idiots here love for one particular language means hating all other language..As&&&&&&

@Akash
Being such a senior member in the forum , you should know what is right/wrong. What to update what not. The way you jump into the topic is like No difference between you and new joinee like me. Most of your comments here is pro-Hindi. I respect your contribution to KA/Blr threads, being such a person you should support Kannada more than Hindi otherwise whole KA against you.
Don’t think that entire Karnataka is like Belgaum/Bidar.
Hope you keep away from this kinda discussion next time & support Kannada always.
Jai Karnataka.:cheers:


Boss,there is no Kannada v/s Hindi war going on here to support a lang,I love both Kannada and hindi.BTW I am listening to a kannada folk song now :)

He tried to help you and you are making stories out of it...

Good thing about the story was I made him speak tamil with me :)

The End---

All I see is Hindi is everywhere propaganda :bash:. He should have not bought MTC into this.

when a mtc conductor(anti hindi region-dravida movement) is learning or has learnt hindi,it is not tough for kannada gen next to speak or pick up hindi..Hope this clears the MTC episode.
Anyway that comment was directed to gentem,you may ignore

I also have a true story to share about Hindi in TN. :troll:

When I was driving to Pondicherry once, I got down at Krishnagiri to buy cigarettes and water etc. I tried to start in monosyllabic Tamil to him, but he automatically started talking to me in Hindi, which was personally surprising for me.

Personally, I think picking up a language should be entirely an individual choice. If one feels comfortable in picking up Hindi and communicating in Hindi, there is hardly anything that one can (or should) "do" about that.

OTOH, the converse, i.e. recognition of the local language, is also very important. If you go to a different state/city, you ought to expect them to speak in their own language. It is intolerable to go and expect (or demand) that they speak to you in a language that you are comfortable with! With some idiots, I see that failure to do so invites ridicule, or aspersions on "patriotism". I see this happening often, and that is something I get really pissed off about. You need to recognize and respect local sentiments and customs, no matter where you go - period. This is applicable to a Dilliwala coming to Bangalore for work, as much as to a Tamilian who goes to Patna for work.

:2cents:

OTOH, the converse, i.e. recognition of the local language, is also very important. If you go to a different state/city, you ought to expect them to speak in their own language.

Wait!! I guess Guys here are pissed off with few uncultured hindi guys who come to south and demand we(locals) speak to them in Hindi??

Let me make it clear,I am against such idiots who do not respect local lang and culture.

When I am in TN i speak tamil(basic) or when I am in Maharashtra I speak broken marathi.

Idhana mari baedi yendhu...Rashtra kavi kuvempu suvarna akshara dhinda bardhirantha kavya

Jaya Bharata Jananiya Tanujate

Karnataka recognises its position in the comity of Indian states, believes in peaceful co-existence with her sisters, but at the same time maintains her self-respect and dignity from a position of confidence and strength rather than insecurity and fear.


Federal system has been throughly endorsed in this poem

Neevgalu bhaya patkondh irowdhana biddi..Soviet Union collapsed cause of insecure feeling :cheers:

Khambar's works are being translated in marathi,remember MES opposed him in belgaum.

Promoting Hindi is not equal to killing kannada.

Wait!! I guess Guys here are pissed off with few uncultured hindi guys who come to south and demand we(locals) speak to them in Hindi??

Let me make it clear,I am against such idiots who do not respect local lang and culture.

When I am in TN i speak tamil(basic) or when I am in Maharashtra I speak broken marathi.

How contradict these two replies . dear akash I need to refer dictionary am running short of words. bye

Boss,there is no Kannada v/s Hindi war going on here to support a lang,.BTW I am listening to a kannada folk song now :)
I like it.

How contradict these two replies . dear akash I need to refer dictionary am running short of words. bye

Please quit we don't need petty regional fanatics like you.

Read carefully,they are not contradicting....

I love hindi literature,I wish to see the language get enriched more.

Janpeeth awards are a testimony to that,Kannada and Hindi have earned the highest number of awards,both langauges are getting enriched.I would love to see both the languages earn more awards in the coming years.

Hucchan thara matahd baedi...Nimmigae facts gothilla andrae summne quit...

If some guy from north comes and demands we speak to him in hindi inspite of him staying in Karnataka for several years,then he deserves to be called uncultured..

You guys are mixing Culture and Language,Culture is independent of language.

^^ Ok Akash , I value your contribution to the forum. anyway i quit.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ಹೊಸ ವರ್ಷದ ಹಾರ್ದಿಕ ಶುಭಾಶಯಗಳು !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :cheers:

The wanderer ignore these bunch of petty regionalists,they are useless to the society.Move on

Promoting Hindi is not equal to killing kannada.

Ass &&*)) need to relaise that Kannada has won the highest number of janpeeth award along with Hindi,Our language is getting enriched with time an d that is more important.

Kannada population <<<<< Hindi population but still we managed to get highest number of janpeeth awards.Shows how rich Kannada language is....:cheers:

Idiots here fail to realize that watching regional movies or speaking a regional wont help a language at all.....for idiots here love for one particular language means hating all other language..As&&&&&&

loose thara adthidaane.. bekittha? when u ll start selling country for ur business convenience??

akash let me remind u that u don't have right to ask others to quit here. know ur limits, u r not ssci mod yet.

^^ @Gentem, Please stop this to here.

The high court on Monday issued notices to the BBMP and state government in connection to a public Interest litigation filed by a five-year-old boy Jishnu and his father R Gururaj. On July 6, 2010, six dogs attacked Jishnu in Yelahanka New Town, and he was grievously injured.

The petitioners contended that the boy may have medical complications in the future and hence sought compensation of `5 lakh, but the BBMP released only Rs26,000.

Jishnu has sought to an order to the BBMP to pay Rs5 lakh compensation and additional compensation in the event of any health-related complications.

The petitioners also sought that the streets should be cleared of garbage, which is one of the main causes for stray dogs gathering near bins. The duo also said a website must be created to provide information to victims of dog bites.

link (http://www.dnaindia.com/bangalore/report_stray-dog-menace-in-bangalore-5-yr-old-seeks-rs5-lakh_1632786)

Bangalore Water Supply and Sewarage Board (BWSSB) minister S Suresh Kumar on Monday allayed fears of disconnection of water supply over not adopting rainwater harvesting (RWH) in households across in the city. Speaking at a function organised by BWSSB Engineers’ Association, Kumar said the government would extend the deadline till March in the legislature session scheduled in January.

“Everybody should adopt RWH on their own accord. One should not wait till the order (is issued),” he added.

Kumar called upon engineers to set a New Year’s resolution to complete pending works of the Cauvery-111 and 1V phase to gift Bangaloreans uninterrupted supply of water during March and April. He also made an appeal to initiate steps to avoid leakage of water. BWSSB chairman PB Ram Murthy presided over the function.

link (http://www.dnaindia.com/bangalore/report_rainwater-harvesting-deadline-in-bangalore-extended-to-march_1632777)

Crime rate has gone down in the city, or has it?

While commissioner of police BG Jyothi Prakash Mirji on Sunday praised his men for successfully reining in crime in 2011, statistics complied by his very own City Crime Record Bureau (CCRB) show otherwise.

“Bangalore city police have worked towards bringing down the crime rate in the city,” he said. “We have done it successfully and have brought down the crime rate compared to last year.”

According to CCRB’s statistics, there has been a decline in the number of murders in the city — 198 in 2011 (till November 30) compared with 266 in 2010 and 256 in 2009. But at the same time 414 robbery cases were reported in Bangalore in 2011 (till November 30), more than in 2010 or 2009. Similarly, till November last year, 1,987 cases of house thefts were documented, again more than in 2010 or 2009. There was also a steep rise in mugging incidents in 2011.

But why let statistics come in the way of some self-congratulation?
On Monday, additional commissioner of police (law and order) T Suneel Kumar said, “Last year, there were more ‘marital disputes murders’. This year, the number has come down. We cannot say this is the main reason for the decrease in the number of murders. The police have worked to bring the numbers down.”

DGP Shankar M Bidri went further while lauding the state police and said Karnataka had the best policing system in the world. “We are best not only in the country, but in the world,” he said. “We are the only police department which recovers stolen properties in maximum cases and returns them to the owners.”


link (http://www.dnaindia.com/bangalore/report_bangalore-much-safer-say-cops-are-they-right_1632545)

A tailor and his mother committed suicide allegedly because of financial problems, in their house in Gayatrinagar after late Sunday night.

Prashanth, 32, was a tailor. He, along with his mother, Sindhu, 60, committed suicide by hanging in their house. A death note was recovered from their house, which read that the two had taken loan from financiers in the city and were not able to clear the debt, thus they were ending their lives and no one should be held responsible for it.

The incident came to light on Monday evening when Prashanth’s sister and brother-in-law, Preethi and Hemanth, went to their house to check on them. Preethi had been trying her mother’s and brother’s phone numbers since morning but her calls went unanswered. Suspecting something was wrong, she and her husband rushed to her brother’s house in evening. When no one answered the knocks on the door, they peeped inside from the window, only to find Prashanth’s and Sindhu’s bodies hanging.

Preethi and Hemanth told police they were in Prashanth’s house on New Year’s Eve and had celebrated the New Year by cutting cake. The couple had left the house on late Sunday night, only to learn about the suicide the next day.

Widow ends life
In another incident, a 28-year-old woman ended her life by hanging in her house in Vijayanagar on Monday. Police said she was in depression since her husband’s death recently.

link (http://www.dnaindia.com/bangalore/report_bangalore-man-mother-end-life_1632760)

loose thara adthidaane.. bekittha? when u ll start selling country for ur business convenience??

akash let me remind u that u don't have right to ask others to quit here. know ur limits, u r not ssci mod yet.

In general, I feel that next gen Kannadigas are more comfortable in Hindi than Tamil. For example, in Bangalore where I live right now, I think its easier to get by with Hindi than Tamil. I remember this incident in Fraser Town where one woman was literally struggling because she didn't know any Hindi/Kannada, only Tamil. I had to find someone who spoke Tamil. Even some Tamilians tell me that if you don't know Kannada, you're better off knowing Hindi than Tamil. Some of the o

As far as Hindi is concerned, I think the more business and industry you have in South, Hindi will spread, in a mongrel, broken way. Whether it is a Maharashtrian eating in a Mallu resteraunt in Shivajinagar, a Bengali buying from a Muslim shop in Fraser or Bihar workers in Kerala/Tamil Nadu, Hindi often comes into the picture. Where the GOI made a big mistake is they tried to institutionalise it and force feed it. Every big hit Bollywood movie in the South spreads Hindi naturally, without any hatred or illfeeling. Every time, you have influx of labourers/workers/engineers etc who work, the shopkeepers and businessmen often speak some Hindi without any issues just because they are earning more money. That's the best way Hindi will spread, not through telling people "Its the national language." I strongly think with more and more non-South Indians getting involved in different sectors of the economy in Kerala, Karnataka, Tamil Nadu (AP i don't know much about), a basic version of Hindi will spread down to even smaller towns in South India.
Just the other day, I heard these two guys speaking Kannada between each other and singing "Pehli nazar mein" loudly in the BMTC bus. :lol::nuts:

^^ :ohno:

Ok ok, sorry. Nothing more from me henceforth.

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BANGALORE: Twelve vehicles, including nine private buses were gutted after a major fire which broke out at Lakshmi Body Builders, a garage located in Veerabhadreshwara Nagar on Hosakerehalli Ring Road on Monday afternoon.
According to Fire Department officials, the fire broke out when the garage workers were welding a seat. Sparks from the welding machine fell on the seats and they caught fire. Workers ran out of the bus and before they could try to douse the fire, it spread to the entire bus and later to vehicles that were parked in the vicinity. Some locals informed the Fire Department about the incident at around 1 pm.
Eight fire tenders� rushed to the spot and firemen, after three hours, doused the fire completely.
Nine buses, two auto rickshaws and a Tempo were gutted in the mishap. “The garage is located in a congested area and it was difficult to drive in fire tenders. Also there was smoke due to tyres that were kept in the garage. It came as a hindrance in our operations. Moreover, there were no fire safety measures in the garage,” the fire officials told Express. The loss is yet to be ascertained. Further investigations are on in this regard.

link (http://ibnlive.in.com/news/12-vehicles-gutted-in-fire/217325-60-119.html)

BANGALORE: A cash-strapped BBMP has ordered a survey to reassess buildings in tech and business parks for property tax.

BBMP commissioner M K Shankarlinge Gowda issued a note regarding this after corporators , during a recent council meeting, expressed concern that building owners in various tech and business parks had not revealed information regarding the actual built-up areas.

As per the note, additional director (town planning) has to identify all tech and business parks in BBMP limits and get a prominent private surveyor to assess the built-up areas in these parks for property tax. Subsequently he will have to submit the information to the deputy commissioner (tax) to check whether the findings match the declarations.

The deputy commissioner (tax) has been asked to recover tax dues, if any, from errant IT firms identified by the survey.

"We are still in the process of choosing the private surveyor. That IT companies are evading tax is still a speculation. It might not be true in case of all IT companies functioning in BBMP limits . Some companies might have given us false assessment. We will look into it," said IA Ramakanth, joint commissioner (revenue).

Tax-violating IT companies could be in all zones, particularly in Mahadevapura and Bommanahalli where tech parks are more in number, he added.

Numbers say it all
Yediyur corporator N R Ramesh alleged that under-assessment of land used by IT companies had caused a loss of Rs 700 crore so far.

"Under the self assessment scheme, IT companies have paid property tax for 69 lakh sq feet of built up area, whereas market research surveys put the actual occupancy at over 3.5 crore sq feet. BBMP revenue records say there are only 13 IT parks in the Palike limits and they pay Rs 60.97 crore as property tax. But in reality, there are 22 of such IT hubs and business parks.

The BBMP has issued 130 building plans and 89 of them have been given occupancy certificates to carry out their activities," he explained.

He suggested that the BBMP use electronic total station (ETS) equipment to figure out land usage by IT companies and business parks through scientific and electronic measurement.

link (http://www.ndtv.com/article/karnataka/karnataka-chief-minister-promises-land-for-sivagiri-mutt-in-bangalore-162866)

(IDEX Online News) – The Gemological Institute of America (GIA) will hold a career fair, in association with the Jewellers’ Association, on January 22 in Bangalore. The event is the latest in a series of GIA career fairs to have been held in India. Fairs in Mumbai and Delhi resulted in more than 700 job placements.


The Bangalore fair will include a panel discussion with industry professionals, a “Recruiters Corner” for preliminary interviews between company representatives and employment candidates and one-on-one mentoring sessions between candidates and experts.

“Our industry is full of different avenues. In addition to openings in grading and jewelry design, there are positions in finance, marketing, communications and sales,” said Nirupa Bhatt, managing director of GIA in India and the Middle East.

link (http://www.idexonline.com/portal_FullNews.asp?id=36273)

loose thara adthidaane.. bekittha? when u ll start selling country for ur business convenience??

akash let me remind u that u don't have right to ask others to quit here. know ur limits, u r not ssci mod yet.

Huchhan thara yaar adthidarae antha yeldargu gothu....:) You guys have not traveled beyond Bangalore-Mandya region

Good luck,stay ignorant forever.

Karnataka is more than just Bangalore,visit karwar,mangalore,coorg,belgaum,gulbarga,bellary,shimoga you will understand how diverse karnataka is.

You fanatics might not be knowing this- even konkani writers are honoured in karnataka with rajyotsava award,go to Majestic and lodge protest against Karnataka government for honouring konkani writer and not a kannada writer.You guys suck

In general, I feel that next gen Kannadigas are more comfortable in Hindi than Tamil. For example, in Bangalore where I live right now, I think its easier to get by with Hindi than Tamil. I remember this incident in Fraser Town where one woman was literally struggling because she didn't know any Hindi/Kannada, only Tamil. I had to find someone who spoke Tamil. Even some Tamilians tell me that if you don't know Kannada, you're better off knowing Hindi than Tamil. Some of the o

As far as Hindi is concerned, I think the more business and industry you have in South, Hindi will spread, in a mongrel, broken way. Whether it is a Maharashtrian eating in a Mallu resteraunt in Shivajinagar, a Bengali buying from a Muslim shop in Fraser or Bihar workers in Kerala/Tamil Nadu, Hindi often comes into the picture. Where the GOI made a big mistake is they tried to institutionalise it and force feed it. Every big hit Bollywood movie in the South spreads Hindi naturally, without any hatred or illfeeling. Every time, you have influx of labourers/workers/engineers etc who work, the shopkeepers and businessmen often speak some Hindi without any issues just because they are earning more money. That's the best way Hindi will spread, not through telling people "Its the national language." I strongly think with more and more non-South Indians getting involved in different sectors of the economy in Kerala, Karnataka, Tamil Nadu (AP i don't know much about), a basic version of Hindi will spread down to even smaller towns in South India.
Just the other day, I heard these two guys speaking Kannada between each other and singing "Pehli nazar mein" loudly in the BMTC bus. :lol::nuts:

recently most big bollywood movies are being released in telugu and tamil also. signifies fall of hindi. few pages back see how 40% in mumbai watch marathi. language is pillar of culture.

@Akash
you should support Kannada more than Hindi otherwise whole KA against you.



loose thara adthidaane.. bekittha? when u ll start selling country for ur business convenience??

akash let me remind u that u don't have right to ask others to quit here. know ur limits.

who is gowdru to dictate me what is right and wrong??

Your stupid comments are there in every thread of this forum no wonder

Yaakrappa sumne charche maadtha idheera !!!!!


avaravara abhipraaya avaru vyaktha padasthaare, adhanna bekidhre oppikoLLi illaandhre bidi. Sumne bereyavarige "muttaala" antha hesarit kariyodhu sariyalla.

You fanatics might not be knowing this- even konkani writers are honoured in karnataka with rajyotsava award,go to Majestic and lodge protest against Karnataka government for honouring konkani writer and not a kannada writer.You guys suck

Try to understand, what we are fighting is Hindi imposition on every language including Gujarathi , Bengali, Kannada , Tulu ,konkani, telugu.,,& all other indian language. You are person who justify this imposition on gujarath HC case, that casues all these discussion.
Realy sad to see your update like this.


who is gowdru to dictate me what is right and wrong??

What i was saying resposibility grows with the no of posts,.as you say that is wrong "nalku barsu nan kennege".

who is gowdru to dictate me what is right and wrong??

Your stupid comments are there in every thread of this forum no wonder

if u see previous pages u can see recently u getting personal too often when u have no counter argument. hope u learn to talk about subject than about persons here. better realise mistake and mend ur ways

Try to understand, what we are fighting is Hindi imposition on every language including Gujarathi , Bengali, Kannada , Tulu ,konkani, telugu.,,& all other indian language. You are person who justify this imposition on gujarath HC case, that casues all these discussion.
Realy sad to see your update like this.


BTW Nobody is imposing hindi,if NHAI fails to publish it in local lang screw it.

Listen man, If i express my love for a particular lang that does not mean I hate the rest.

I just want one common language which can unite all Indians for which I support hindi here.

Ground reality is this--It is happening!! Go stop if you can :)

Centre for Hindi Language Training at Hubli (http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/industry-and-economy/economy/article2293514.ece)

HUBLI, JULY 25:
The employees of various central government departments, banks and public sectors units should be sent liberally for learning Hindi as it is the official language, Mr Kuldeep Chaturvedi, General Manager, South Western Railway (SWR) and Chairman of TOLIC.

He also expressed satisfaction in the implementation of official language by the members of TOLIC in Hubli-Dharwad.

He thanked the officials of Hindi Teaching scheme for opening a Centre for Hindi Language Training at Hubli. He also thanked the Central Translation Bureau, New Delhi for conducting a five-day Translation Training course for the trainees of various Central Government, departments, banks and PSUs held at Carriage Repair Workshop, Hubli recently.

^^ :doh: ayyo akasha :)

^^ :doh: ayyo akasha :)

Gowdru nodi sir i have nothing personal against anybody here.

British imposed english on us,English too has done damage to local langs to a great extent.We are basically selfish we embraced english as it ensures us a good future.In city schools English by default is Lang 1 and the rest follow,why don't you all opt for kannada as first language write CET in kannada??Hypocrites ashtey..

"Imposition of Hindi" term was coined by TN politicians who made a career out of it. (http://forbesindia.com/article/hindsight/tamil-nadu-rediscovers-hindi/10612/1?id=10612&pg=1).

For example in my relation itself,few relatives migrated to US some 30 years ago and now their children speak only english.:nuts:

My cousin a kannadiga married a naidu girl,now they speak Hindi :P such things are happening gowdrae.We cannot stop these.

if u see previous pages u can see recently u getting personal too often when u have no counter argument. hope u learn to talk about subject than about persons here. better realise mistake and mend ur ways
^^
^^ huchcha :weird:



One good hindi word for you, gaddhaar :bash:

The above statement applies to you first....Lo double face itkondh alli beda...You think you are a saint??


that casues all these discussion.



Had gentem muchkondh kuthidrae things would not have gone so far...

Had gentem muchkondh kuthidrae things would not have gone so far...

I know he is the real culprit.

Gowdru nodi sir i have nothing personal against anybody here.

British imposed english on us,English too has done damage to local langs to a great extent.We are basically selfish we embraced english as it ensures us a good future.In city schools English by default is Lang 1 and the rest follow,why don't you all opt for kannada as first language write CET in kannada??Hypocrites ashtey..

"Imposition of Hindi" term was coined by TN politicians who made a career out of it. (http://forbesindia.com/article/hindsight/tamil-nadu-rediscovers-hindi/10612/1?id=10612&pg=1).

For example in my relation itself,few relatives migrated to US some 30 years ago and now their children speak only english.:nuts:

My cousin a kannadiga married a naidu girl,now they speak Hindi :P such things are happening gowdrae.We cannot stop these.

@Akash, first of all, I don’t have problem with English as whole world depends on this.
Coming "Imposition of Hindi" , this word actually coined by Bengalis not Tamilians.

Coming to TN, They never under control of any kingdom. Even during Maurya Empire King Ashoka could not conqueror Tamil world. They have many thing’s to take pride.
They are extremely passionate about their language, culture, business, work..etc. They know how to utilise their resource. There is well saying in our side "kelsa andre kongu(tamils) tara madbeku kanri"
I must say these guys are quite higher IQ people. How they inherently blessed with all this. Because of their stable dynasties, fanatics, culture, language, weather, etc .. So they don’t want to mix with other language.

Coming to KA history, we have been ruled by many dynasties starting from Kadambas, Rastakutas, Gangas, Chalukyas, Hoyslas, Vijayanager, Mysore wodeyer. Infact Telugu script originated from Old kannada script during 1000AD.All they gave immense contribution to art, literature.
We ruled Marathas under Rastrakutas but we never impose Kannada on them , entire south-india under Vijayanagara period.
So Kannada has been protecting from 2000 years. Karnataka actually merged with north India only after independence.
In recent globalisation, English invaded all other language. Don’t you think Hindi invasion cause further deterioration of our Kannada? That was our biggest concern. We need to protect we already left with instead promoting some 3rd language.
So one country, one language slogan cannot be achieved for multiliguistic, multicultural country like India. Otherwise it causes further breakage of our unity.

I know he is the real culprit.

It is not about calling him a culprit,opinions differ between us.

But he starts off with a post like "Huccha" -"ghadhhaar". :lol:

Leave that apart, later he comes with a post as if he is a saint...summne kithapathi maadadharlli artha illa.

Namma deshdalli irovantha ondhu bashe na upyogsadhrae naavu "gadhaar" aagthivi,adhrae adhae british itt hogiruva bashae na upyogsudhrae avanu desh bhaktha...Idhana neevu enn anthira?? :nuts::lol: I am amused

Yeldaragu haakk idhae avara vishya na mundh idakae,idhu ondhu public vedhike....Vishayagalu mele baedha iruthae,adhana sari reethi indha charche maad baeku.

^^


The above statement applies to you first....Lo double face itkondh alli beda...You think you are a saint??




Had gentem muchkondh kuthidrae things would not have gone so far...

did u see ur post very before that post of mine u quoted? I'm not saint to listen to "silly" things and keep quite, what goes around comes around. I have not much hope from u to change.

no need to display ur history knowledge here :lol: u say something doesn't mean its happening, in fact opposite is actually happening..

Coming to KA history, we have been ruled by many dynasties starting from Kadambas, Rastakutas, Gangas, Chalukyas, Hoyslas, Vijayanager, Mysore wodeyer. Infact Telugu script originated from Old kannada script during 1000AD.All they gave immense contribution to art, literature.
We ruled Marathas under Rastrakutas but we never impose Kannada on them , entire south-india under Vijayanagara period.
So Kannada has been protecting from 2000 years. Karnataka actually merged with north India only after independence.
In recent globalisation, English invaded all other language. Don’t you think Hindi invasion cause further deterioration of our Kannada? That was our biggest concern. We need to protect we already left with instead promoting some 3rd language.
So one country, one language slogan cannot be achieved for multiliguistic, multicultural country like India. Otherwise it causes further breakage of our unity.

You definitely have a point,languages evolve and develop with time.Hale kannada is very much different from the present kannada.Hindi is not harming Kannada in any way.Languages don't know to fight,but people know to fight over languages.

It is left to the younger generation to mould the language,but finding the right mould is difficult.:)

I have already said "Karnataka - One state Many worlds"

did u see ur post very before that post of mine u quoted? I'm not saint to listen to "silly" things and keep quite, what goes around comes around. I have not much hope from u to change.

no need to display ur history knowledge here :lol: u say something doesn't mean its happening, in fact opposite is actually happening..

ya ya you call me huccha - gadhaar and expect me to sit quite.:lol:

ya ya you call me huccha - gadhaar and expect me to sit quite.:lol:

but who started first? next time u ll remember before starting to get personal. u can talk anything about subject in hand, but avoid talking about persons involved in argument..

but who started first? next time u ll remember before starting to get personal. u can talk anything about subject in hand, but avoid talking about persons involved in argument..

Guruvae,

Nindha kemp saari na :)

Close it here.

@Akash, first of all, I don’t have problem with English as whole world depends on this.
Coming "Imposition of Hindi" , this word actually coined by Bengalis not Tamilians.

Coming to TN, They never under control of any kingdom. Even during Maurya Empire King Ashoka could not conqueror Tamil world. They have many thing’s to take pride.
They are extremely passionate about their language, culture, business, work..etc. They know how to utilise their resource. There is well saying in our side "kelsa andre kongu(tamils) tara madbeku kanri"
I must say these guys are quite higher IQ people. How they inherently blessed with all this. Because of their stable dynasties, fanatics, culture, language, weather, etc .. So they don’t want to mix with other language.

...

For the first time, I am hearing something positive about my people from the 'locals' of this thread. :cheers:

The highlight was "kelsa andre kongu(tamils) tara madbeku kanri". In fact, there is a saying in Tamil which says that our land has always been a land of opportunities and has given a living to anyone who has come here. This saying was coined several centuries ago before the advent of globalization. :cheers:

Back to the current discussion, people should be given options and shouldn't be forced to learn a language. This is like 'mandatory healthcare' aka Obamacare. :lol:

For the first time, I am hearing something positive about my people from the 'locals' of this thread. :cheers:


well there are many things which KA neds to learn from TN,primary being developing T2 cities.

High time, stupid GOK moves beyond Bangalore :bash:

@Akash - I would like to suggest that you have to come out of India to realize how people from different parts of India 'truly behave'. You will not be supported by South Indians if you keep talking in Hindi all the time even though they know Hindi very well. I have seen enough examples of this in all South Indians. On this particular issue, I don't know about others.

@Akash - I would like to suggest that you have to come out of India to realize how people from different parts of India 'truly behave'. You will not be supported by South Indians if you keep talking in Hindi all the time even though they know Hindi very well. I have seen enough examples of this in all South Indians. On this particular issue, I don't know about others.

I dun have much idea about this..:)

Guys,
My personal observation in bangalore from my child hood visit late 80s to now
I use to speak tamil and can manage in city bus/auto/shops in 80s with some kannada words thrown in .
now besides english I need to pull my broken hindi completely to get through every where
Other day I saw TV vieweship it had less % of hindi viewing audience so that clearly says all the south Indians are speaking Hindi in Bangalore regardless of their mother tonque.
Eventually I feel Bangalore is going Bombay way and Hindi might emerge as lingua franca of Bangalore in next 2 decades replacing Kannada. (Kannadigas has to speak Kannada first and before speaking in Hindi)

GOK has chosen Bangalore to be made a global city instead of a regional city.Expect people from around the world to settle here,that day wont be far.:)

BIAL has become the third busiest domestic airport of India now.Next Bangalore needs to beat Delhi is it possible??? When will Bangalore's economy surpass Delhi's?? before 2020?? :cheers:

Delhi is developing pretty fast it might overtake Mumbai,Equations will change soon

Cmon,
Bangalore is a magnet city for all of south and many in north India that makes it cosmopolitan.Any city in India cannot be called global based on attracting talents across world
But based on political and economical strengths all the 6 metros have some rankings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_city#GaWC_studies) in globalization index where Bangalore is a Beta + city behind Delhi and Mumbai

Indian cities probably have the least number of foreign born citizens per-capita among all the global cities mentioned in the list.

Catching up with Delhi or Mumbai interms is very hard because they have more than double the population Bangalore. But Percapita wise it is very much possible (it might be already)

Guys,
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Other day I saw TV vieweship it had less % of hindi viewing audience so that clearly says all the south Indians are speaking Hindi in Bangalore regardless of their mother tonque.
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They may speak but do they like speaking? Do you really think you can strike a chord with them easily through Hindi than their native tongue? The answer to my 2nd question is "It is very very difficult" based on my experience of seeing Indians in the US.

BTW, I can bet that Tamilians who have migrated to BLR because of IT rarely speak in Hindi with auto or bus conductors because they can get around with Tamil and some English. So you cannot generalize that all South Indians speak Hindi. My friends say "Get down at Cantonment at 4 am when BLR mail arrives from Chennai and you will see that almost all the time talk in Tamil ONLY." Also, getting around with English mixed with Tamil or Kannada words like 'beku', 'banni' etc. is easy.

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BIAL has become the third busiest domestic airport of India now....

There is some controversy with this ranking because of conflicting reports published and so I can't comment on this. :)

Catching up with Delhi or Mumbai interms is very hard because they have more than double the population Bangalore. But Percapita wise it is very much possible (it might be already)

Population is not everything.Anyway,let us all hope that bangalore fares well in the coming years :cheers:

Second phase of metro cleared that is some great news for bangalore :)

GOK has chosen Bangalore to be made a global city instead of a regional city.Expect people from around the world to settle here,that day wont be far.:)


That is why we should talk in english to become global city, not hindi.

Guys,
My personal observation in bangalore from my child hood visit late 80s to now
I use to speak tamil and can manage in city bus/auto/shops in 80s with some kannada words thrown in .
now besides english I need to pull my broken hindi completely to get through every where
Other day I saw TV vieweship it had less % of hindi viewing audience so that clearly says all the south Indians are speaking Hindi in Bangalore regardless of their mother tonque.
Eventually I feel Bangalore is going Bombay way and Hindi might emerge as lingua franca of Bangalore in next 2 decades replacing Kannada. (Kannadigas has to speak Kannada first and before speaking in Hindi)
Yes, tamil had a downfall in bangalore with migration of telugu and northies. IMO that helped kannada to cement its numero uno position, dont you think so?

Cmon,
Bangalore is a magnet city for all of south and many in north India that makes it cosmopolitan.Any city in India cannot be called global based on attracting talents across world
But based on political and economical strengths all the 6 metros have some rankings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_city#GaWC_studies) in globalization index where Bangalore is a Beta + city behind Delhi and Mumbai

Indian cities probably have the least number of foreign born citizens per-capita among all the global cities mentioned in the list.

Catching up with Delhi or Mumbai interms is very hard because they have more than double the population Bangalore. But Percapita wise it is very much possible (it might be already)

Bangalore should improve there because it was beta city even when metro service was not operational. Now it should fare much better.

That is why we should talk in english to become global city, not hindi.

Bangalore should improve there because it was beta city even when metro service was not operational. Now it should fare much better.

^^I think that survey was done when 2011 census were not out,Absolute pop does not matter but rate of pop growth matters.Bangalore exploded with economic growth in the last decade,anything can happen over 5-10 years.I am optmistic about bangalore growth.It is my dream to see bangalore surging ahead and matching what delhi is now in a few years down the lane.

I don't think metro has a big role in such surveys.

BIAL is growing fantastically,wait for T1 expansion to happen that will surely help bangalore upgrade its position on infra parameter...Many people may not like it,but the fact is that BIAL has proved better than Hyd intl airport functionally.

PRR is one mega project stuck up just like BMIC :ohno: Now most of bangalore's arterial roads have been developed,mysore road is in the process.

BTW, I can bet that Tamilians who have migrated to BLR because of IT rarely speak in Hindi with auto or bus conductors because they can get around with Tamil and some English.

But they are embracing hindi

Tamil Nadu: Increasing popularity of Hindi (http://forums.sulekha.com/forums/coffeehouse/tamil-nadu-increasing-popularity-of-hindi-920064.htm)

Chennai says it in Hindi (http://www.indianexpress.com/news/chennai-says-it-in-hindi/830371/1)

Based on my two years stay in chennai I must say things have changed a lot in Chennai,people have moved on forgetting all dravidar and other movements.

That is why we should talk in english to become global city, not hindi.


Yes, tamil had a downfall in bangalore with migration of telugu and northies. IMO that helped kannada to cement its numero uno position, dont you think so?


Tamil labour migrants now speak hindi,thanks to their peers from bihar region.There are cases where both tamil and bihar migrants are working together,I have come across such sites in bangalore.

But they are embracing hindi

Tamil Nadu: Increasing popularity of Hindi (http://forums.sulekha.com/forums/coffeehouse/tamil-nadu-increasing-popularity-of-hindi-920064.htm)

Chennai says it in Hindi (http://www.indianexpress.com/news/chennai-says-it-in-hindi/830371/1)

Based on my two years stay in chennai I must say things have changed a lot in Chennai,people have moved on forgetting all dravidar and other movements.
These are pockets of encouraging news but doesn't hold true in big numbers. Although am out of TN for a while now, I am sure that I am right in saying that Hindi in TN is still a sensitive issue and people don't go by these news items.

BTW, during my recent trip to Chennai, I saw bunches of Bihari or UP migrants even in the remote places. They had come there for construction activities and none of them could get help in knowing where the Tambaram bus stop was because they spoke only in Hindi. :)

Tamil labour migrants now speak hindi,thanks to their peers from bihar region.There are cases where both tamil and bihar migrants are working together,I have come across such sites in bangalore.
Here is a difference...if you are with a bunch of other Indian people speaking a different language than yours and if you are sharing workspace with them, you will learn their language because those guys will be using that in almost all their conversations. After you move out of this workspace, you will slowly forget whatever you have learnt because you won't have the time and energy to remember it.

The above psychology holds true with even Indian roommates living in a foreign country. :)

Maudany's bail plea rejected (http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article2771507.ece?homepage=true)

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Yes, tamil had a downfall in bangalore with migration of telugu and northies. IMO that helped kannada to cement its numero uno position, dont you think so?

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Until the IT boom, there were two phases in Tamil-Kannada people relations in BLR - before the Cauvery crisis and after the crisis - before the crisis Tamil people were dominating and after the crisis that came down although it existed in the form of people conversing in Tamil and not much beyond that. After the IT boom, Kannadigas are feeling more insecure at losing their space to many others especially North Indians. So, instead of the Tamils, they now have a new bunch of people to take on to make sure their place is not questioned.

^^ Since everyone likes to migrate to Bangalore (most welcome), it's best to make this city as a capital of south India. would you agree?

That is why we should talk in english to become global city, not hindi.
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If you start conversing in English, there is a big fear of losing out to migrants primarily because the native Kannadiga population is less. However, English will surely sustain BLR's momentum as a global city.

On the other hand, encouraging Hindi will make it a haven for many uneducated Northies who come to BLR to take part in the economy. Over a period of time, they will unite to take on the natives...this is when people will feel the need for Thackereys or Vatal Nagarajs to assert their position.

If Kannada is encouraged, both of the above things won't happen and so BLR will suffer from the 'Chennai syndrome' of being a protectionist city.

^^ Since everyone likes to migrate to Bangalore (most welcome), it's best to make this city as a capital of south India. would you agree?
South India is not a country on its own to have a capital city. :lol:

South India is not a country on its own to have a capital city. :lol:

Yes, but it's a novel Idea. Bangalore is closer to three states (except goa) in south India, therefore attracts people from all over.

Yes, but it's a novel Idea. Bangalore is closer to three states (except goa) in south India, therefore attracts people from all over.
I don't understand why its a novel idea when the basis (S.India on its own) for that has not been established. It is only crazy and people want to stay put wherever they are.

I don't understand why its a novel idea when the basis (S.India on its own) for that has not been established. It is only crazy and people want to stay put wherever they are.

It's just the same as IT city, Silicon City and so on- it's a brand that attracts investments and different people all over the world.

It's just the same as IT city, Silicon City and so on- it's a brand that attracts investments and different people all over the world.
Not really. Capital city means governance and it touches all the people than being a city that attracts migrants for the jobs that the city provides.

Not really. Capital city means governance and it touches all the people than being a city that attracts migrants for the jobs that the city provides.

So IT Capital means governance? I don't think so. IT Capital is a brand - not really a capital.

So IT Capital means governance? I don't think so. IT Capital is a brand - not really a capital.
No no. Read my post carefully. I answered to you only in the context you asking what if BLR is the capital city of S.India. I understand IT capital is a brand. :)

^^ We need a supreme court bench in south india. For that most people oppose chennai, and tamils oppose bangalore. Best place for that is hyderabad or pune.

Otherwise south india capital has no other use as such. There is another thing that in metros HRA exemption of income tax is some 30% of basic etc etc are there elsewhere it is 40%. That benefit need to be given to bangalore and hyderabad too, or it can be abolished altogether as all cities/towns are same.

Even capital of south india is a brand, that is unofficial.. All people but tamils agree bangalore is capital of south india :)

No no. Read my post carefully. I answered to you only in the context you asking what if BLR is the capital city of S.India. I understand IT capital is a brand. :)

Capital of South India is also a brand- it will benefit people in all the states with respect to tourism and investments. Anyways, it's an interesting topic worth debating I guess.

^^ I agree with the HRA thing. I don't know about the Supreme Court thing.

Capital of South India is also a brand- it will benefit people in all the states with respect to tourism and investments. Anyways, it's an interesting topic worth debating I guess.
I don't think so. Remember, we are talking federalism at all levels including in the recent Lokpal debates. When we do that, we don't want to raise an unnecessary debate about one city being called the capital when all states have their own identity.

^^Second capital is something very much needed for india.I think Hyderabad is well suited for that....

^^ I would vote for pune instead of Hyd, for second capital of india. That has mumbai/sea beach closeby which is financial capital. Most of south india can access Pune easily, well connected through trains/buses. They can hold some parliament sessions in second capital, other than supreme court bench :)

^^ I would vote for pune instead of Hyd, for second capital of india. That has mumbai/sea beach closeby which is financial capital. Most of south india can access Pune easily, well connected through trains/buses. They can hold some parliament sessions in second capital.

Pune is too west,Nagpur is centrally located but nagpur needs more class to qualify for the race.

hyderabad seems to be ok with good infra

^^ Nagpur too north and doesnt qualify. Pune is better because it will be much useful for mumbai honchos :) That is a big audience for which hyderabad will be too far. Even gujarat can be included in jurisdition of supreme court because pune is towards west and close to gujarat. Pune to chennai is 1000km while hyd to chennai is 650km, still tamils will support pune instead of hyd.

If Kannada is encouraged, both of the above things won't happen and so BLR will suffer from the 'Chennai syndrome' of being a protectionist city.
:lol: good one...

Chennai seriously is losing out,if it does not open up hyderabad too might soon overtook chennai.That is "MY personal observation".

hyderabad is pretty cosmo after bangalore in south,it can make a good second capital.

^^ Nagpur too north and doesnt qualify. Pune is better because it will be much useful for mumbai honchos :) That is a big audience for which hyderabad will be too far. Even gujarat can be included in jurisdition of supreme court because pune is towards west and close to gujarat. Pune to chennai is 1000km while hyd to chennai is 650km, still tamils will support pune instead of hyd.

Pune is fine as an emerging giga city,but hyderabad has better infra.Both cities are friendly to outsiders that is the biggest plus point.Mumbai is already a megapolis I don't want commerce to concentrate in just one region.

West India is very developed--Mumbai,Pune,Surat,Ahmedabad are propelling India's economy to a great extent.

South lags west here.So a south Indian city must be promoted as a second capital.So I support Hyderabad.:cheers:


@ CI,think-tank is right we need to project one city from south as a commercial hub

Delhi will overtake mumbai soon,then most of the commerce will shift to north.Leaving a huge vacuum in the east and south.We need one big city in the south and east to strap that gap.Bangalore is very well positioned in south.Kolkatta is also doing great these days.

My wish


Hyderbad- south indian region capital also the second capital of Indian union
Bangalore- commercial capital of south india region

Kolkata- East indin region capital

Time to divide India into 4 clusters managed by a cluster capital.

Tamil labour migrants now speak hindi,thanks to their peers from bihar region.There are cases where both tamil and bihar migrants are working together,I have come across such sites in bangalore.

My own construction site is an example. The worker mix is around 40% Bihari, 50% Tamil and 10% others. I have seen that the language of communication when they are all together, is Hindi.

Additional point of interest: one of the supervisors is from a mid-tier town in TN. He says that it is extremely tough to find local Tamil labour in that town for construction activities. So, the entire workforce in new projects is Bihari. I heard this guy calling up one of the labourers there and giving instructions in Hindi.

South India is not a country on its own to have a capital city. :lol:

Second capital of India.

^^Second capital is something very much needed for india.I think Hyderabad is well suited for that....

No, I support Bangalore. :banana:

Center of South India. Innumerable defence and central government institutes. Usually considered the "third city" after Mumbai and Delhi. And did I mention climate? The mantris and babus would enjoy coming over here for six months in the Delhi summer. :cheers: