Bangalore Discussions [Archive] - Page 8

gentem

January 9th, 2011, 06:16 AM

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Virat Kohli
India
Retained
-
All-rounder

2
Dilshan Tillakaratne
Sri Lanka
$400,000
$650,000
Batsman

3
Zaheer Khan
India
$400,000
$900,000
Bowler

4
AB de Villiers
RCB
$400,000
$1.1 million
Batsman

5
Daniel Vettori
New Zealand
$400,000
$550,000
Bowler

6
Saurab Tiwari
India
$100,000
$1.6 million
Batsman

7
Dirk Nannes
Australia
$200,000
$650,000
Bowler

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C Pujara
India
$100,000
$700,000
Batsman

Read more: Royal Challengers Bangalore - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/Royal-Challengers-Bangalore/articleshow/7236264.cms#ixzz1AVnidipI

Gautam Gambhir
India
KKR
$200,000
$2.4 million
Batsman

Yusuf Pathan
India
KKR
$400,000
$2.1 million
All-rounder

Robin Uthappa
India
Pune
$200,000
$2.1 million
Batsman

Rohit Sharma
India
MI
$200,000
$2 million
All-rounder

Irfan Pathan
India
DD
$200,000
$1.9 million
All-rounder

Yuvraj Singh
India
Pune
$400,000
$1.8 million
All-rounder

Saurab Tiwari
India
RCB
$100,000
$1.6 million
Batsman

Mahela Jayawardene
Sri Lanka
Kochi
$400,000
$1.5 million
Batsman

David Hussey
Australia
Kings XI
$300,000
$1.4 million
All-rounder

Dale Steyn
South Africa
DC
$200,000
$1.2 million
Bowler

AB de Villiers
South Africa
RCB
$400,000
$1.1 million
Batsman

Muralitharan
Sri Lanka
Kochi
$300,000
$1.1 million
Bowler

Cameron White
Australia
DC
$300,000
$1.1 million
Batsman

Jacques Kallis
South Africa
KKR
$300,000
$1.1 million
Batsman

Ross Taylor
New Zealand
RR
$400,000
$1million
Batsman

Read more: IPL auction: Who got whom - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/news/IPL-auction-Who-got-whom/articleshow/7238072.cms#ixzz1AVqNZReL

ipl millionaires

engineer.akash

January 9th, 2011, 01:45 PM

Like charity, cleaning up begins at home & party

E.R. RAMACHANDRAN writes: Ajji was watching the news and shouted suddenly, “Lo Ramu, avanu Quarter Ki alva?”

“Ajji! He is not Quarter Ki. He is Quattrocchi. Ottavio Quattrocchi.”

“Yeno sudugadu! I had seen his picture long back in the papers. There were rumours that he had taken money for Baafars gannu or something during Rajiv Gandhi‘s time.”

“Ajji! Although you mispronounce names, your memory is as sharp as a kitchen chaaku. You’re right. He was accused of taking a bribe when India bought Bofors guns.”

“Didn’t Quarter Ki get some kicks?”

“Kicks alla Ajji, kickbacks. In a way, you are right. He needs kicks. Lots of them!”

“Alvo! Just last week madam Sonia Gandhi sat cross-legged under huge photographs of Gandhiji, Nehru, Patel etc, on loads and loads of pillows and thundered to all, ‘We will not tolerate corruption’.”

“This is normal in all Congress meetings, Ajji. It seems, an angry Jawaharlal Nehru used to throw the cushions on some sleeping Congressman or the other. Now, most of them sleep on them anyway.”

Ajji ignored my interruption.

“She wanted the world to hear about her war on corruption. If she is serious about it, why doesn’t she start eradicating corruption from her house itself. Like they say, ‘Charity begins at home’.”

“Ajji, volle Kumble googly haakkde. If that happens, her son, grandson or anybody from her family cannot become India’s Prime Minister. Ever.”

“Howdu, Nija. This came out only because of an IT report by Narayana Murthy.”

“Ajji, this IT is income tax, not information technology IT. Narayana Murthy has nothing to do with it.”

“Sudugaadu, whatever it is, some government body thinks Quatrappa made money with kicks.”

“Quatrappa? Soon you will make him Yediyurappa.”

“Don’t interrupt me. Shouldn’t Sonia Gandhi start the war against corruption by sending our police or CID to arrest him?”

“Not CID, it is the CBI’s job. Our CBI still don’t want to get him even if other countries are willing to hand him over.”

“Manehaalaru. One more thing…”

“Enajji?”

“North nalli, ‘Ji‘ is used as a suffix for all their names. Manmohanji, Soniaji, Pawarji…”

“Ajji, you are also a ‘Ji‘! What are you trying to say?”

“I understand in the GG case the fact that there was corruption was brought out by a government body. I don’t know the name. Income tax inspector hendthi Iravathamma told me it was some CAG or GAG.”

“Ha, ha. So Iravathamma is your latest source?”

“Software Seethamma interdus maadidru temple nalli. Iravathamma says country is running because of some honest officers. Otherwise this GG galaate would have never come out.”

“Galaate alla, ghotala. but your friend Iravathamma is right. Only because of the good work by CAG, IT tribunal and to some extent the media, all the scams are tumbling out one after the other.”

“Yenoppa. Poltishans are only busy making illegal money. That is their first love, it seems.”

“Correct, Ajji.”

“First and last love, koodano?”

“Absolutely, Ajji.”

http://churumuri.wordpress.com/

:cheers:

engineer.akash

January 9th, 2011, 01:49 PM

Chair cracks!!!

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Yep headphones for Devegowda ji,time to retire you know

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http://churumuri.wordpress.com

engineer.akash

January 9th, 2011, 02:36 PM

Walking through Mission Impossible 4 Shoot at Vancouver Convention Centre Dressed as Bangalore, India
:)

Kamraj rasthae?:nuts:

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/susangittins/5336950370/

summne kithapati evaradu..bengaloorigae bandh bit shooting mad bahadu aagithu

Indian Sun

January 9th, 2011, 04:28 PM

^^ hehe, nice.

rakshit gowda

January 9th, 2011, 04:30 PM

Chair cracks!!!

http://churumuri.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/09april09kpn88.jpg?w=450&h=317

Even here he is sleeping. :lol:

rakshit gowda

January 9th, 2011, 04:32 PM

Very disappointed they didn't shoot in Bangalore.

engineer.akash

January 9th, 2011, 04:33 PM

Even here he is sleeping. :lol:

btw look at BS Yeddyurappa's face---lol That guard's action is hilarious....:lol:

gentem

January 9th, 2011, 04:57 PM

Walking through Mission Impossible 4 Shoot at Vancouver Convention Centre Dressed as Bangalore, India
:)

Kamraj rasthae?:nuts:

summne kithapati evaradu..bengaloorigae bandh bit shooting mad bahadu aagithu

they put some autos and it becomes bangalore :lol: good catch akash..

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brigade and mg road too :) and thums up ad

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mission impossible 4 http://www.flickr.com/photos/susangittins/5336265933/in/photostream/

engineer.akash

January 9th, 2011, 04:58 PM

http://www.hafeezcontractor.com/adminpannel/images/HaffezAdmin/web1(8).jpg

even aliens will abandon his designs,what a crap one from hafeez.Is he planning to grow potatoes below?

sixsigma1978

January 9th, 2011, 10:57 PM

^^^ Mission Impossible 4 shooting Vid Log!! Bangalore In Vancouver!! Guess it was easy to CREATE Bangalore and shoot it rather than shoot in Bangalore - kinda insulting!! But they captured the Noisy Bangalore traffic Din perfectly!! :D

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Tom cruise Jumping over cars!!!

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greatshankar

January 10th, 2011, 02:59 AM

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wlbkng

January 10th, 2011, 05:17 PM

Namma Bengaluru, which has already earned the tag of being the Silicon Valley of India, is fast emerging as a major hub of medical tourism, perhaps second only to Chennai. This past year, the number of patients from foreign countries who got treated in city hospitals almost touched the impressive 10,000 mark. This is a 66 per cent jump from 2009 when only around 6,000 foreigners underwent surgeries in the Garden City.
“The rate at which the city hospitals are growing (infrastructure wise along with world class equipment), in the next five years the world is definitely going to look up at Bangalore as a centre of medical expertise,” feels Dr Sharan Shivraj Patil, chairman, Sparsh Hospital.
Dr Nagendra Swamy, president, Manipal Health Enterprise, rightly puts it that “the term medical tourism when it comes to Bangalore is now replaced by medical value traveller.” Information sourced from leading hospitals revealed that patients from 30 countries and other major Indian cities and towns, have been flocking to hospitals here since the past few years. Interestingly, ‘medical tourists’ account for about 20 per cent of the patients in the city’s hospitals, with majority of them coming from the Middle East and third world countries.
The low cost of treatment has been the biggest attraction. For major cardiac surgeries, cancer treatment or an orthopaedic surgery patients here need to pay around one-third of the cost charged in the US or UK.
Air connectivity has been another major facilitator for foreign patients.
The waiting list in hospitals here is also less. “We get a lot of patients from the Gulf. They pay us just 25 per cent of the cost of treatment in their country. There are also many NRIs who seek treatment here as for them it doubles up as a pleasure trip home,” says Dr Devi Shetty, chairman, Narayana Hrudayalaya.
Interestingly, even the government- administered Jayadeva Institute of Cardiovascular Sciences, with its world class facilities is witnessing an influx of foreign patients registering a 10-15 per cent increase in visting patients during the past two years.
“In 2010 we treated around 20 overseas patients and 1,000 patients from other States,” Dr Manjunath, director of the institute told Express.
“Patients from other States, particularly West Bengal have told us that trust is another factor drawing them to Bangalore. Even for follow-up tests, these patients are coming to our hospital,” he says.
Even doctors from abroad are coming to the city for training.
“Soon 25 heart specialists from USA, UK, Vietnam, China and Middle East countries will visit Jayadeva Institute,” he adds.
“Almost everyday we receive lots of mails and queries from patients and their relatives at our hospital’s international division,” says Dr Shivraj Patil of Sparsh Hospital, where the number of foreign patients had doubled to 200 from 2008-09.
The Manipal Hospital has tied up with resorts, star hotels and service apartments for accommodating patients from the US, Gulf and SAARC countries, besides hosting them at its guest house.
Other leading medical institutions such as HCG, Apollo and Columbia Asia too have also been receiving a steady stream of medical tourists.

Source: http://expressbuzz.com/cities/bangalore/medical-tourism-touches-10000-mark/238444.html

Twism

January 10th, 2011, 11:10 PM

I'll have to swing by the convention center in Vancouver today and check it out. I've been dying to go back to blore for sometime, this should satisfy that need a little =)

Shame they couldnt have actually have shot it in Bangalore, especially as they just wrapped up shooting in Dubai which is 3 hours away from blore. Maybe if all the construction for metro and station was due to be completed much earlier they would have considered.

And it wouldnt be Bangalore with out Kathakali dancers lol. Wonder if cows were brought in for the shoot =)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5250/5344000291_6baf862ce6_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26045897@N05/5344000291/)
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ChennaiIndian

January 11th, 2011, 01:12 AM

...
And it wouldnt be Bangalore with out Kathakali dancers lol....
^^ Kathakali is the traditional dance of KL. What has this got to do with Blore?

By the way, those autos have been decorated for Ayudha Pooja!! :lol:

gentem

January 11th, 2011, 03:24 AM

gentem

January 11th, 2011, 05:16 AM

City, haven for illegal Bangla immigrants
Rajiv Kalkod, TNN, Jan 11, 2011, 03.44am IST
BANGALORE: For Naimuddin (name changed), life became rosy once he entered Bangalore. This Bangladeshi sneaked into the country via West Bengal. Though the agent had asked for Rs 25,000, he paid only Rs 5,000 after tough bargaining.

Bangalore had given him more than he had dreamt of. He has been earning Rs 250 to Rs 300 per day by taking up painting and carpentry works in the city.

He is not alone. Thousands of Bangladeshis who enter the city take up small jobs. While most of them are daily wage earners, others indulge in illegal activities like circulating counterfeit currencies, drug peddling, robbery and dacoity.

It is quest for better economic opportunities that drives these Bangladeshis to illegally enter India. But what is causing concern to the authorities is that some indulge in criminal and terrorist activities.

The arrest of a man, a woman and a child on Sunday for not possessing valid papers brings the focus back on illegal Bangla immigrants.

Joint commissioner of police Alok Kumar said police do not have the exact figures on the illegal immigrants in the city. "We have received messages that a few Bangla citizens are involving in terrorist activities. We are keeping tabs on them. Till now we have found no evidence,'' he said.

He said most of them provide fake address proof. "This makes it difficult to track them when needed. But their language gives the clue," he added.

It may be recalled that around 50 Bangla citizens vanished from BIAL premises in 2010 when police began a random check. These included those who used to clean the runway and other sensitive areas inside BIAL.

Read more: City, haven for illegal Bangla immigrants - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bangalore/City-haven-for-illegal-Bangla-immigrants/articleshow/7256284.cms#ixzz1AhFEYrjF

shold kolkata improve with infy/wipro opening offices there.. then these bangla people will go to kolkata instead of bangalore..

avinash2060

January 11th, 2011, 06:43 AM

TIMES NEWS NETWORK

Bangalore: Bangalore boy Phaneesh Murthy scripted a mega deal in IT on Monday when his much smaller company,iGate Corporation,acquired the much larger Patni Computers for $1.22 billion (Rs 5,500 crore).
The acquisition gives Murthy the heft to barge into the Big Boys club and play with the likes of TCS,Infosys and Wipro as the combined entity will boast a billion-dollar topline.
The acquisition was finalised after several weeks of backroom negotiations and media speculation.The deal is expected to be closed,along with regulatory approvals,in the first half of this year.Speculation is rife that the new entity will be called iGate Global.The deal has been done at Rs 503.5 per share,valuing Patni at around $1.45 billion.TOI first reported that iGate and Apaxs winning bid was priced between Rs 500-505 per share almost ten days ago.The three Patni brothers,who together held a 45.6% stake,are selling their stake along with private equity investor General Atlantic,which held a 17.4% stake in Patni.
iGate will make an open offer for a further 20.6% stake in Patni as a result of which it will get anywhere between 63% and 83% stake in the company depending on the outcome of the open offer.The deal size is perhaps bested only by Oracle Corps acquisition of a majority stake in i-flex solutions for more than $1.5 billion in 2005.
iGate will have to raise around $700 million through debt from Royal Bank of Canada and Jeffries & Company.A further sum of $100 million will be raised from iGates cash reserves.Private equity partner Apax Partners will invest anywhere between $270-$ 480 million (depending on the response to the open offer) for a 20%-34 % stake in iGate.
The deal values mid-size Patni at around eight times EBITDA (earnings before interest tax depreciation and amortisation) and at around 1.8 times revenue.Compare the valuation with that of the biggies: Infosys,Cognizant and TCS quote over 20 times EBITDA and between 5-8 times revenue.
Two bankers who worked on the deal said Patnis valuation was good,factoring in its growth profile in recent years.While Patni registered revenues of $518.7 million in the 9 months ended September 2010,the corresponding figure for iGate is less than half,at $199.5 million.

BILLION-DOLLAR BABY

FIGURING THE DEAL

The transaction

is valued at $1.22 billion,including the mandatory 20% open offer to the public shareholders of Patni

iGate

to buy 45.6% shares of the three Patni founders Narendra Patni,Gajendra Patni and Ashok Patni along with 17.4% stake of PE firm,General Atlantic

iGate

will pay $921 million for buying 63% stake at Rs 503.50 apiece.It will also make an open offer for a further 20.6% stake in Patni,taking its stake to between 63% and 83%

WHEN WILL IT BE SEALED

By first half of 2011,after acquiring all regulatory approvals

THE HEADCOUNT

By Sept 30,2010,the combined headcount will be 24,834

avinash2060

January 11th, 2011, 06:44 AM

Asha Rai | TNN

Phaneesh Murthy,iGate CEO,on Monday inked the deal that catapults him to where he belongs;with the big boys of Indian tech services industry.Hes had to wait eight years to get back there.With his much smaller company acquiring Indias seventh largest IT services firm,Patni Computers,to create a billion dollar entity,he now has the launch pad to prove that his success as global sales head of Infosys Technologies where he took revenues from $2-million to $700-million in a decade was as much his effort as that of the storied founders of Indias second largest IT services firm.
The 46-year old IIT-Madras and IIM-Ahemdabad grads striking stint at Infosys from 1992-2002 earned him the title of the other Murthy. And the buzz in Bangalore is that he met with his former mentor,N R Narayana Murthy,sometime in October last,after he decided to bid for Patni.What transpired between the two remains private but as one looks at the iGate-Patni deal,it is difficult to get away from the underlying Infosys thread in the story.
Patni,though one of the earliest companies in the IT space in India,never really made it to the big league.It will forever go down in IT folklore as the firm at which the seven co-founders of Infosys Technologies worked under the stewardship of Narayana Murthy before leaving three decades ago to set up shop in Bangalore with as little as Rs 10,000 in capital but a big,burning desire to launch a company for professionals by professionals. The rest,to use a cliche,is history.
In a sense,it looks fitting that the three Patni brothers have turned to a man who cut his teeth at Infosys and if things had gone to form,without doubt would have become the first non-promoter to head the company to steer the destiny of the firm that bears their name.They must hope that some of the star dust around Infosys would rub off on Patni under Phaneesh.
Phaneeshs meteoric rise at Infosys abruptly ended when he was slapped with a sexual harassment charge by his former executive assistant,Reka Maximovitch.Infosys,facing its first major scandal and fearing that if Phaneesh was allowed to continue,Maximovitch who had also sued Infosys would go after its considerable cash pile,not to speak of the PR disaster of keeping him aboard,dropped him like a hot potato.The suit was eventually settled for $3-million.Phaneesh later faced a similar suit from a former Infosys executive which was also settled out of court though in both cases he pleaded innocence.
As the first act in his career ended unceremoniously,he embarked on a mainly entrepreneurial journey in Act Two.With his IIM-A classmate wife,Jaya,who stood by him staunchly through the scandal,he started a consulting outfit,Primentor in 2003.But within a year he was back in tech services,starting Quintant with backing from the GMR group.However,in a span of months,Quintant merged with iGate with Phaneesh taking over the top job.
Having built scale at iGate,Phaneesh a wannabe doctor who became an engineer because of his Dads insistence and whose first job was with Sonata Software began looking for that one break that would get him back with the big boys.He bid for Satyam unsuccessfully two years ago.When Patni came back into the market,he mounted whats turned out to be the winning bid with Apax Partners.
This deal typifies what close associates describe as his risk taking ability.Traits used to describe him bold,decisive and very smart also show up in his personal pursuits.Hes known to go on at least one adventure holiday a year with his sons Mukul and Nirav and has a yen for extreme sports.Swallowing a company two and half times your size and targeting to treble the combined size in a short time is as extreme as it gets in business and Phaneesh seems more than ready for this third act of his career.

avinash2060

January 11th, 2011, 06:54 AM

gentem

January 11th, 2011, 07:17 AM

chidambaram_mech04

January 11th, 2011, 01:37 PM

In google maps for Bangalore, I could able to get the directions for places including BMTC bus routes, number of stoppings, Time taken by the bus, how much distance you need to walk, interchanging routes etc., It is really excellent. For a person who is entirely new to Bangalore can use this ver efectively. Was this public transpotation in google maps added recently? I could able to see this only for Bangalore and Delhi.

gentem

January 11th, 2011, 03:28 PM

^^ only big 10 and volvos are there in google map, other buses not there yet.. your "could able" becomes double, use am able to or could alone :)

engineer.akash

January 11th, 2011, 04:14 PM

BJP lures JD(S) members; wrests Gulbarga ZP
Bangalore, Jan 10, DHNS:

The ruling BJP on Monday grabbed control of the Gulbarga Zilla Panchayat (ZP), where there was a hung verdict, by luring away all three JD(S) members.

The three JD(S) members Harshanand, Mangalabai and Jayashree joined the BJP in the presence of state Party President K S Eshwarappa in Bangalore. The BJP party’s strength in the 43-member ZP rose to 23 from 20. The Congress had won 19 seats and JD(S) three.

Later speaking to reporters, Eshwarappa expressed confidence that the BJP would take control of at least 18 to 19 ZPs. The BJP had won 12 of the 30 ZPs. As many as 10 ZPs threw up hung verdicts. It recently gained majority in Bellary ZP by luring away a Congress member.

He said the party would await the final verdict of the Supreme Court on the illegal mining issue on the basis of the Central Empowered Committee report and act, if the need arises, against Reddy brothers.

He slammed the Congress and the JD(S) for disrupting the legislature session and appealed to them to participate in discussions.

:drunk:

BJP needs to replicate the same in the capital as well :)

sunilkumar

January 11th, 2011, 04:40 PM

LONDON: Britain's Prince Charles is building an eco-friendly model village for around 15,000 poor people in India, inspired by the slums depicted in Oscar-winning movie Slumdog Millionaire ".

The multi-million-pound venture - on a 25-acre wasteland on the outskirts of either Kolkata or Bangalore - will include schools, shops and 3,000 homes, the Daily Mail reported.

The Prince of Wales' village is modelled on Poundbury in Dorset county that has been Charles' 30-year-old pet project.

Construction for the Indian village - the first of a series of eco-developments in India by the Prince's Foundation for the Built *Environment charity - is set to begin in the autumn.

The new town, for mainly low-caste people, will have features that Charles has championed for decades.

Large roofs overhung with palm trees will collect rainwater, which will be used for showering, washing and in toilets before being recycled to water plants.

Shade and natural ventilation will combat temperatures that regularly top 38 degrees Celsius.

Instead of open sewage, rubbish heaps and shared sanitation blocks common in Indian slums, the residents will have individual toilets and waste facilities.

The project comes after Charles praised Mumbai's Dharavi slum, featured in Oscar-winning film "Slumdog Millionaire", despite it housing up to a million people in a place less than half the size of the prince's Highgrove Estate in Gloucestershire.

"When you enter what looks from the outside like an immense mound of plastic and rubbish, you immediately come upon an intricate network of streets with miniature shops, houses and workshops, each one made out of any material that comes to hand," he said.

Unlike the "fragmented, deconstructed housing estates" built in the West, the slum has "order and harmony", Charles claimed, adding, "We have a great deal to learn about how complex *systems can self-organise to *create a harmonious whole".

Charles has been to India many times, most recently with his wife Camilla during the Commonwealth Games in Delhi.

His charity will also open its first overseas office in Mumbai this year.

source @ http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/et-cetera/prince-charles-to-build-model-village-in-india/articleshow/7260860.cms

rakshit gowda

January 11th, 2011, 05:01 PM

^^ Instead he can return all the money and treasures his thieving family looted over the past 300 years from our country. I would say around 2-3 trillion dollars. Can he do that?

avinash2060

January 11th, 2011, 05:03 PM

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think-tank

January 11th, 2011, 05:17 PM

Bangalore will probably give them concessions if they decide move all the IT industries from late cyberbad :D - good way to fill up the gaps I suppose.

engineer.akash

January 11th, 2011, 05:19 PM

Guys I am fed of congress and JD(S) Why do people vote for them?How illetrate people can be :bash::bash::bash:

think-tank

January 11th, 2011, 05:23 PM

Guys I am fed of congress and JD(S) Why do people vote for them?How illetrate people can be :bash::bash::bash:
Yes, it seems that Mysorians didn't vote for bjp....

:lol: How do we know you are not a secret jds lover? do you stash deve gowda's photo under your pillow? :ohno:

engineer.akash

January 11th, 2011, 05:31 PM

Yes, it seems that Mysorians didn't vote for bjp....

:lol: How do we know you are not a secret jds lover? do you stash deve gowda's photo under your pillow? :ohno:

Oh my god.Me and JD(S) :gaah: I am really angry with Mysore rural junta who voted for congress and JD(S) in the recent ZP elections.

rakshit gowda

January 11th, 2011, 07:00 PM

Guys I am fed of congress and JD(S) Why do people vote for them?How illetrate people can be :bash::bash::bash:

Akash Avare... Its a democracy. It is bound to happen in multicultural, multi religious country like India. Although BJP is doing a good job, don't forget the efforts of congressman Mr. Krishna who single handedly saved the city after the deadly Gowda, J.H Patel reign.

avinash2060

January 11th, 2011, 07:02 PM

Hyderabad: Real estate prices and investments in Hyderabad have dropped following the Telangana protests, raising questions over Hyderabad's future.

Brand Hyderabad is about pearls, biryani, Charminar and Information and Technology. But for a year now, the city's also been a hotbed of pro-Telangana support. The Osmania University campus - a centre of politics - remains tense after the Srikrishna panel's report became public. Students continue to agitate for Telangana despite police warnings.

The metropolis is the bone of contention, as the Srikrishna committee report acknowledges. And with no party willing to part with the Nizam's city, bandh calls & violence, though restricted, have become more routine - making investors edgy.
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Hyderabad: Real estate prices and investments in Hyderabad have dropped following the Telangana protests, raising questions over Hyderabad's future.
Brand Hyderabad is about pearls, biryani, Charminar and Information and Technology. But for a year now, the city's also been a hotbed of pro-Telangana support. The Osmania University campus - a centre of politics - remains tense after the Srikrishna panel's report became public. Students continue to agitate for Telangana despite police warnings.
The metropolis is the bone of contention, as the Srikrishna committee report acknowledges. And with no party willing to part with the Nizam's city, bandh calls & violence, though restricted, have become more routine - making investors edgy.

IVRCL CEO Sudhir Reddy says that if these conditions prevail, then they will be left with no option but to move out.

Real estate has been the big loser. The Telanagana issue, market players say, has made valuations worse - with land sales dropping by 35 to 40 percent. They say, bulk real estate investment has gone to the likes of Bangalore and Chennai. But investors remain hopeful, especially now that the Srikrishna Committee report has been made public.

Muppa Homes CMD M Venkaiah Choudhary, CMD told, "The commitee has said Hyderabad will be taken care of, so people are now understanding that prices will not go down any further. We are hopeful old stocks will be cleared soon."

With the festival of Makara Sankranti approaching, even the ferment at Osmania University campus has come down.

While politics over the Telangana issue continues to be played out, the state of Brand Hyderabad hangs in uncertainty. The big challenges before the government now are to reinstate faith in investors and curb the increasing fnancial loss. City investors are meanwhile hanging onto the hope that the Srikrishna Committee report may prove to be the magic solution in the coming days.

source:http://ibnlive.in.com/news/telangana-protests-hamper-brand-hyderabad/140152-3.html?from=tn

Marathaman

January 11th, 2011, 09:28 PM

Mission Impossible 4 shooting in Bangalore..oops...Vancouver:D

0g-Zt5IvECw

vlakshmi_n

January 11th, 2011, 10:18 PM

Even here he is sleeping. :lol:

He has never been awake, by sleeping itself he & his family have gobbled so much, can't think of what would have happened if he wasn't sleeping (Active) :lol:

engineer.akash

January 11th, 2011, 10:44 PM

Mission Impossible 4 shooting in Bangalore..oops...Vancouver:D

0g-Zt5IvECw

MM you are late..It was already covered in the previous page :)

Suncity

January 11th, 2011, 11:15 PM

City, haven for illegal Bangla immigrants
Rajiv Kalkod, TNN, Jan 11, 2011, 03.44am IST

shold kolkata improve with infy/wipro opening offices there.. then these bangla people will go to kolkata instead of bangalore..

Bangalore and Bengaluru are just super sets of Bangal (the language/people of east Bengal) and Bengal. Why complain?

engineer.akash

January 11th, 2011, 11:57 PM

Akash Avare... Its a democracy. It is bound to happen in multicultural, multi religious country like India. Although BJP is doing a good job, don't forget the efforts of congressman Mr. Krishna who single handedly saved the city after the deadly Gowda, J.H Patel reign.

True SM Krishna definitely saved Bangalore and Karnataka from getting doomed,worst tenure was that of Dharam Singh's.State literally rotted under his rule,kumarswamy with BJP was doing extremely good,but he chained himself by betraying.

engineer.akash

January 12th, 2011, 12:03 AM

The coffee king of modern India

By Amy Kazmin

Published: January 11 2011 22:26 | Last updated: January 11 2011 22:26
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Brand builder: V.G. Siddhartha, outside his Bangalore office. He has established Café Coffee Day as India’s most prominent retail brand, with more than 1,000 coffee shops

V.G. Siddhartha is a reluctant interviewee. Initially rebuffing a request from the Financial Times, he politely e-mailed: “I don’t think I have got any great

Nothing could be further from the truth. Over the past decade, the 50-year-old entrepreneur from south India’s lush coffee-growing mountains, has built the country’s most ubiquitous retail brand, Café Coffee Day. It has more than 1,030 coffee shops in 175 cities and towns across the country, and it is still expanding.

With its slightly suggestive slogan, “a lot can happen over coffee”, the chain has captured the zeitgeist of young, modern India, where conservative social rules are gradually eroding and rapid economic growth is creating new opportunities for social mobility. The cafés are a place where backpack-carrying students, laptop-toting young professionals, amorous couples and af*fluent sari-clad women all come to conduct meetings, keep romantic assignations or hang out with friends. “It’s a comfort zone,” says Latika Arora, a 21-year-old MBA student and a regular Café Coffee Day patron.

As well as the coffee shops, the company has 1,000 kiosks, branded Coffee Day Express. It has 15,000 vending machines in some 4,000 companies; and sells roasted filter coffee powder. Annual revenues are about $222m (£142m), growing around 33 per cent a year.

Last year, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts, the private equity firm, led a consortium investing $200m in Coffee Day Holdings, the parent company which owns all of the cafés, and over the next three years Mr Siddhartha plans to double the number of shops.

“I am a bit publicity shy,” he says when we finally meet in his modern art filled office in downtown Bangalore. “All this is thanks to India. It is the country which is giving the opportunity. We are lucky to be born at the right time in the right place.”

Sites and staff: key ingredients

Running a retail business in India is tough, thanks to the challenges of finding affordable premises and hiring large numbers of good staff. V.G. Siddhartha has this advice:

●Find suitable sites. Every Café Coffee Day site is approved by Mr Siddhartha after making a visit in person or watching videos of the locations and local area. He also consults with the regional teams.

●Stay firm on rents. Mr Siddhartha drives a hard bargain on rents, which
he says should not exceed 20 per cent of a store’s projected revenues. “We do our homework. We negotiate hard, but once we negotiate, we stick with them.”

●Keep in touch with staff. An average of 40 to 45 Café Coffee Day stores a month are visited by Mr Siddhartha, often at the busy weekend. He aims to have contact with as many of the 11,500 employees as possible – to “thank them for quality service for our customers” – to share his vision, and to convey some of the opportunities in the fast-growing operation.

Raised on his family’s 400-acre coffee plantation, Mr Siddhartha was educated by tutors at home, then at a small boarding school in his remote agrarian district of Chikmagalur. Studying economics at the Jesuit-run St Aloysius College in Mangalore, he flirted with leftist politics. “I thought I should be a Robin Hood – rob the rich and give to the poor,” he laughs. “But then I realised in this country, there is no money. There is nothing to rob. The economy is so small. So I said, ‘OK, go into business’.”

In 1983, his sceptical father provided Rs750,000 to help fund his business ambitions. In Mumbai, Mr Siddhartha walked into the office of Mahendra Kampani, then India’s best-known stock market investor, and talked himself into a job. After two years as a research analyst – and learning the ins and outs of equity trading – he returned to Bangalore to start his own, successful brokerage. In 1993, he bought shares in the initial public offering of Infosys, the IT company, reaping about $500,000 in profit when he sold months later. He says his early exit was “the biggest mistake of my life”, and he began strategic, long-term investing in Ind*ian technology businesses through Global Technology Ventures, his holding company.

Mr Siddhartha, however, did not forget his roots. He also invested in coffee plantations, acquiring his first estate in 1985. His current personal holdings of 10,500 acres make him India’s second biggest coffee grower, after the Tata Group.

At that time, coffee trading was monopolised by the state-run Coffee Board. Growers had to give all their beans to the Coffee Board, for an average of 35 cents per pound, compared to the then long-term average global prices of $1.20 per pound.

But the economy was being reformed and in 1990, Mr Siddhartha sponsored a group of coffee-growers to travel to New Delhi to urge Manmohan Singh, now prime minister but then finance minister, to end the monopoly. “It was a big white elephant, not protecting the growers’ interests,” he says.

Within months, coffee marketing and exports were open to the private sector. Mr Siddartha set up Amalgamated Bean Coffee Trading Company, or ABC, to export beans from his estates and other growers, but it was still a sideline.

ABC’s international reputation as a trustworthy supplier was secured in 1994, when prices surged to $2 per pound after a frost in Brazil, but Mr Siddhart*ha honoured a contract to supply at a much lower price. “Everybody started contracting with me because they knew I would honour my commitment,” he says.

By 1995, ABC was India’s biggest unroasted coffee exporter. Then, inspired by a conversation with a member of the Herz family, owner of Tchibo, the German coffee chain, and the autobiography of Howard Schultz, founder of Starbucks, Mr Siddhartha decided to create his own coffee brand to add value to his beans. “I thought, ‘Branding will give me four times the money than selling in the bulk market’,” he says. ABC opened 10 tiny Coffee Day Fresh and Ground stores selling coffee for home use.

Mr Siddhartha’s idea of opening a café on Bangalore’s busiest shopping street, however, was rebuffed by his management team. “The MBA research guys told me ‘It doesn’t work’,” he says. “I wanted to sell coffee at Rs25, but exactly 100ft from there, there was a place selling coffee at Rs5. They told me ‘Boss, don’t waste your money’.”

Mr Siddhartha persisted, deciding to use the internet as a draw – although it took a week of intense lobbying to persuade bureaucrats in New Delhi to provide an internet connection to the coffee house. “There was no internet connectivity for the public in India,” he says. “We were one of the first.” Coffee Day Cyber Café launched in 1996, and had opened 20 stores in south India by 2001.

It remained a sideline but that changed in 2001, when the tech bubble burst and another Indian coffee house chain, Barista, emerged. “Everybody started talking about them and not us. It really hurt us very badly, how we goofed up this business,” he says.

Mr Siddhartha now focused his attention on coffee. He rebranded the shops as Café Coffee Day, raised capital – $12m in 2001 from AIG, which has since sold out, and $20m from Sequoia Capital, the private equity firm, in 2004 – and embarked on aggressive expansion. With the new investment from KKR, Café Coffee Day is now working to accelerate its expansion, upgrade the stores and the food and beverage offerings to gear up for what Mr Siddhartha believes is Starbucks’ imminent entry into India.

But he is confident of retaining the loyalty of his young Indian consumers – and of Café Coffee Day emerging as one of the world’s big coffee companies “I tell my team, ‘If you have more than 1,000 stores, and they have not even one, and you are scared about survival, you are not even fit to be in the business’,” he says. “This is just the beginning.”

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/cc5f9a7c-1dbd-11e0-aa88-00144feab49a.html?ftcamp=rss#axzz1Alpxf6nA

Chikmangaluru brand coffee cafe day :cheers:

India101

January 12th, 2011, 03:46 AM

Chair cracks!!!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2156/1883236350_b311551415.jpg

How did his foot get it the middle of it? :hilarious

Sriram27

January 12th, 2011, 04:59 AM

How did his foot get it the middle of it? :hilarious

He's such a twat that's why his foot got in the middle :nuts:

gentem

January 12th, 2011, 05:20 AM

Gowda's homeland is land of farmers' suicide too
TNN, Jan 12, 2011, 03.31am IST
BANGALORE: It's an irony of sorts. Mannina Maga (son of the soil) and former Prime Minister H D Deve Gowda's home district Hassan has emerged as the capital of farmers' suicides in Karnataka.

Government statistics show that nearly 2,597 killed themselves between 2003 and 2010, making it the worst period for farmer suicides in the state. Among 30 districts from where suicides were reported, nearly 268 suicides were reported in Hassan alone followed by 196 in Bidar and 191 in Belgaum.

The trend has, however, declined over the past few years, with 140 suicides reported in 2010-11 compared to 708 in 2003-04. While the lowest number of suicides were in Bangalore Urban (2), Udupi (5), Ramanagaram (6) and Chikkaballapur (3) districts, there have been no such cases in the newly-carved-out Yadgir district.

GRIM NUMBERS

YEAR ------- NO OF FARMER SUICIDES

2003-04------708
2004-05------271
2005-06------163
2006-07------346
2007-08------342
2008-09------337
2009-10------290
2010-11------140

Read more: Gowda's homeland is land of farmers' suicide too - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bangalore/Gowdas-homeland-is-land-of-farmers-suicide-too/articleshow/7262739.cms#ixzz1An7MdYju

Highest farmer suicide during SM Krishna's tenure :bash: im not sure what that sucker did to bangalore, but im sure he sunk the dagger into karanataka's heart, rightly shown door

Indian Sun

January 12th, 2011, 05:25 AM

^^ He must have tried to be cute and jump over it.

nandan_ks

January 12th, 2011, 05:30 AM

Gowda's homeland is land of farmers' suicide too
TNN, Jan 12, 2011, 03.31am IST

Highest farmer suicide during SM Krishna's tenure :bash: im not sure what that sucker did to bangalore, but im sure he sunk the dagger into karanataka's heart, rightly shown door

It was during his tenure that Monsoon failed for 3 continuous years. That spelled doom on SM Krishna and Chandrababu Naidu

gentem

January 12th, 2011, 05:33 AM

^^ monsoon fails and CM does nothing? unpardonable. data missing in 2002 and 2003, that would be high too. u should have seen power cuts in rural areas, never again.. :ohno: krishna can never again enter into karnataka assembly :bash: toothless sucker.

TOI report spared krishna and attacks Deve Gowda's district instead :bash: I think krishna been generous to media funding

chidambaram_mech04

January 12th, 2011, 06:22 AM

^^ only big 10 and volvos are there in google map, other buses not there yet.. your "could able" becomes double, use am able to or could alone :)
:)
Yes right. I am able to...

gentem

January 12th, 2011, 06:31 AM

Bangalore will probably give them concessions if they decide move all the IT industries from late cyberbad :D - good way to fill up the gaps I suppose.

Concern for Hyderabad (http://www.telegraphindia.com/1110107/jsp/nation/story_13403950.jsp)

Hyderabad, Jan. 6 (PTI): The future of Hyderabad, which is the bone of contention ever since the demand for bifurcation of Andhra Pradesh cropped up, now depends on the ability of decision-makers to work out arrangements for its all round growth and development, the Srikrishna panel said in its report.

“Migrants from the three regions, especially from coastal Andhra, have contributed substantially to the economic growth of the city (Hyderabad) and continue to hold a stake in important businesses,” the committee said.

“The immigration from within and outside the state indicates that the present character of Hyderabad is quite different from that inherited from the Nizam period or what it was even three decades ago,” it said.

The committee also observed that Hyderabad has grown into the fifth largest centre after Bangalore, Mumbai, Delhi NCR and Chennai, and much ahead of cities such as Pune and Calcutta.

“Hyderabad has been able to attract investors from across the country and indeed across the globe. In fact, a sixth of Telangana’s GDP comes from Hyderabad. The pattern of Hyderabad’s migration and investment reflects a growing increase in its cosmopolitan identity and social diversity.

“It is imperative to ensure that there is no de-stabilisation of the economy of Hyderabad, flight of capital or erosion of business confidence and all stakeholders continue to have safe access to the city,” the committee suggested.

rakshit gowda

January 12th, 2011, 04:16 PM

Gowda's homeland is land of farmers' suicide too
TNN, Jan 12, 2011, 03.31am IST

im not sure what that sucker did to bangalore, but im sure he sunk the dagger into karanataka's heart, rightly shown door

Why?. Were you not reading the papers during that time?

gentem

January 12th, 2011, 04:49 PM

Why?. Were you not reading the papers during that time?

u support sm krishna, r ashok and kumaraswamy blindly and beyond party just because they belong to your community. gowdas are second largest community in karnataka after lingayats. until people like u come out of such mentality, caste politics will thrive in india. but nitish won last election over caste politics of lalu, a silver lining for india's future :cheers:

and your above comment is best example of pointless talking. i read newspaper that he was shown door in next election.

sudheeshnairs

January 12th, 2011, 05:56 PM

Chikmangaluru brand coffee cafe day :cheers:

It is Chikkamagaluru (Chika Magal Ooru- Younger daughter's place) and not Chikmangaluru, right?

BTW CCD is known as a Bangalore brand only.

engineer.akash

January 12th, 2011, 05:59 PM

It is Chikkamagaluru (Chika Magal Ooru- Younger daughter's place) and not Chikmangaluru, right?

BTW CCD is known as a Bangalore brand only.

Oops! sorry for that yes your are right it is chikamagaluru In a hurry typed it as mangaluru.
Looks like you have learnt thumba nae jaasti Kannada kalathbitidira :)

engineer.akash

January 12th, 2011, 08:26 PM

Guys any idea how many trees would be axed for HSRL?Looks like Bengaluru is losing its green cover at a very fast rate.

Despite the exploding growth and spread of the city, to get even a basic need like water is a struggle. The city is facing a shortage of 225 million litres of water per day (MLD). While the demand is 1,125 MLD, the supply stands at 900 MLD. Around 20% to 25% of the population in the newly added areas depend solely on groundwater.

The groundwater levels are falling sharply and natural aquifers are drying. The large expanses of Sarjapur, Electronic city and Bannerghatta Road that offer plush residential facilities to a major population of techies depend almost completely on groundwater.

The compulsory rainwater harvesting law also lost steam. The last date for the implementation of all eligible houses was May 2010. However, since people needed more time, it was extended. There is no fresh deadline.

The Cauvery 4th Stage, 2nd phase project that is supposed to bring extra 500 MLD of water will kick-start only in 2012. But experts feel that it is only a temporary solution. Reservoirs like Hessaraghatta and TG Halli are already dry and will not be able to contribute to the city's demands. According to water expert A R Shivkumar: "There have to be multiple strategies. First is water conservation. Water needs to be diverted from non-potable users like big industries to residences and for domestic purposes. Users also need to bring down water consumption. Almost 80% of the water flows down the drains.

We need to use water recycling, groundwater recharging and water conservation in strategic ways to deal with the crisis.''

Read more: Scene very grim, groundwater levels falling - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bangalore/Scene-very-grim-groundwater-levels-falling/articleshow/7264402.cms#ixzz1AqonqpWX

ChennaiIndian

January 12th, 2011, 10:56 PM

The coffee king of modern India

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/cc5f9a7c-1dbd-11e0-aa88-00144feab49a.html?ftcamp=rss#axzz1Alpxf6nA

Chikmangaluru brand coffee cafe day :cheers:

:cheers:

However, this points out the difference between the Western way of brand building and the Indian way - Starbucks, for example, doesn't own coffee estates; they source them from suppliers and only concentrate on brand building, offering different flavors and customer experience. :)

In India, we need to own coffee estates in addition to coffee chains. Then, where is the time for brand building and showcasing it to the world? :ohno:

rakshit gowda

January 13th, 2011, 02:22 AM

u support sm krishna, r ashok and kumaraswamy blindly and beyond party just because they belong to your community. gowdas are second largest community in karnataka after lingayats. until people like u come out of such mentality, caste politics will thrive in india. but nitish won last election over caste politics of lalu, a silver lining for india's future :cheers:

and your above comment is best example of pointless talking. i read newspaper that he was shown door in next election.

You stupid jackass. You just baffle me with your stupidity and ignorance.

Are you effing blind or what???

Go to my profile and just read some of my previous posts. I thought you were just some ultra regionalist, but now I see you are just some dumbass retard who cannot even do proper research before posting comments. Just because I am gowda does not mean I support JDS. Let this be a reminder to you. Dont vomit something here without proper background info and research..

gentem

January 13th, 2011, 03:06 AM

^^ first of all give up ur contempt for regionalists, who r equally good ppl. later give up contempt for any human being, most are good. 3 comments back u were supporting jds with akash.

:cheers:

However, this points out the difference between the Western way of brand building and the Indian way - Starbucks, for example, doesn't own coffee estates; they source them from suppliers and only concentrate on brand building, offering different flavors and customer experience. :)

In India, we need to own coffee estates in addition to coffee chains. Then, where is the time for brand building and showcasing it to the world? :ohno:

that guy had owned estates already. ccd started later as side business :) when sm krishna became cm, son in law's business obviously thrived :lol:

rakshit gowda

January 13th, 2011, 03:40 AM

Im assuming you are talking about this. I am actually calling Deve Gowda and JH Patel inefficient here. How can anyone with a functioning brain and a sane mind say I am supporting JD(S):lol: Are you out of your mind???
Akash Avare... Its a democracy. It is bound to happen in multicultural, multi religious country like India. Although BJP is doing a good job, don't forget the efforts of congressman Mr. Krishna who single handedly saved the city after the deadly Gowda, J.H Patel reign.

I dont have any contempt towards regionalists. Helllllooooo, Have you seen my avatar and what I have above that? Dont assume and imagine things dude. I know it is difficult, given the state of your mind and your lack of sanity, but atleast try to control what you say. Do you do this in real life too? Health warning: It may be injurious to do this in real life. Not many people can tolerate your ridiculous logic, the Stupidity and the rubbish that comes out of your mouth.
^^ first of all give up ur contempt for regionalists, who r equally good ppl. later give up contempt for any human being, most are good. 3 comments back u were supporting jds with akash.

Bangalore_Geek

January 13th, 2011, 04:43 AM

Personally, I always vote for the individual and not for the party. I look at the candidate profiles in my constituency and vote for the one who I feel is the best among them, irrespective of party affiliation.

gentem

January 13th, 2011, 04:56 AM

think-tank

January 13th, 2011, 05:08 AM

@rakshit, In fact JH patel was a good cm.

Only when he was not drunk :lol:

gentem

January 13th, 2011, 05:24 AM

Less networking equals high frustration
Sruthy Susan Ullas, TNN, Jan 13, 2011, 05.14am IST
BANGALORE: The much-in-vogue online fetish __ social networking __ caught the fancy of youth way back in 2005. The year saw zillions flocking to new virtual destinations. Six years later, they continue to log in, create elaborate profiles, post new photos, update comments every hour and publicly articulate their relationship status. In fact, a survey conducted by a group of Mount Carmel College students reveal that frustration levels among youth soar if access to these sites are denied.

The survey, required as part of the curriculum, was undertaken by a group of eight students pursuing a combination of Economics, Maths and Statistics.

The study was conducted among 300 people in the age bracket of 10-29 years in schools, colleges, organizations and randomly on the road.

As per the results, 89% of people get frustrated if social networking sites are unavailable. What's interesting is that women get more affected by this inaccessibility. Of these, 34% are school students in the age group of 10-14 years. The next big group is between 20 and 24 years, who form a formidable 33%.

As expected, teenagers constitute the most-frequent visitors to these sites. Of these, those aged between 15 and 19 and 20 and 24 even change their priorities to stay connected. Result: daily chores and school work take a back seat for many.

Observations also show that these sites are an integral part of their social life. In fact, it's seen as the first resort to kill boredom across age groups.

FACEBOOK CLEAR LEADER

Though most avid netizens aren't too sure about the privacy factor, nothing stops them from exploring these sites. However, a few are still not ready to reveal their mobile numbers.

The king of all social networking sites, Facebook, is the most sought after. Survey results show 57% in the age group of 10-19 and 50% in the 20-29 bracket prefer Facebook over Orkut, Hi5, MySpace and others.

DOMINANT TRENDS

The frustrated lot

Age group -- Percentage

10-14----------34%
15-19---------- 11%
20-24----------33%
25-29---------- 11%

NETWORKING THEIR TOP PRIORITY

10-14--23%
15-19-- 28%
20-24--30%
25-29--19%

BEATING BOREDOM

10-14-- 38%
15-19--28%
20-24--24%
25-29--10%

Read more: Less networking equals high frustration - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bangalore/Less-networking-equals-high-frustration/articleshow/7272034.cms#ixzz1AsylGQ5g

mount carmel is where deepika padukone, anuskha sharma (rab ne bana di jodi), nicole faria (miss earth) studied :)

rakshit gowda

January 13th, 2011, 06:31 AM

Dude, In which universe was J.H Patel a good CM? Nobody cares about miss world, its development that matters. It was during his rule that IT went out of Bangalore and settled in Hyderabad. Krishna did his part to improve IT. Anyway, let me stop here. Im glad you are getting dates.

@rakshit, you trashed JH Patel as you did not like JD (not JDS) being led by a lingayat. In fact JH patel was a good cm, like PV Narasimha rao who talked less and worked more. We hosted World beauty contest amid all opposition, and bangalore actually took off at that time. Instead SM Krishna was younger did nothing claiming to make blore into singapore, and shown door, now enters by back door of rajya sabha - coward.

You stop bolding your comments. Your comments are not quoteworthy so i stopped quoting any. stop worrying about my real life, im getting enough dates ;)

Only when he was not drunk :lol:
And when he was not hungover... that was probably 2 or 3 days in a year I guess. :lol:

ullasavadan

January 13th, 2011, 07:05 AM

@rakshit, you trashed JH Patel as you did not like JD (not JDS) being led by a lingayat. In fact JH patel was a good cm, like PV Narasimha rao who talked less and worked more. We hosted World beauty contest amid all opposition, and bangalore actually took off at that time. Instead SM Krishna was younger did nothing claiming to make blore into singapore, and shown door, now enters by back door of rajya sabha - coward.

You stop bolding your comments. Your comments are not quoteworthy so i stopped quoting any. stop worrying about my real life, im getting enough dates ;)

Man you are really short of knowledge on history. J H Patel regime was famous for his booze and the guy who gave him company for that was none other than the Bangalore Development Minister Mr. Anant Nag (yes we did have a separate ministry for Bangalore at that time). The only work they did was drink, drink and drink. And ofcourse one more work they did which was hosting Miss World Competition. BTW, one Kannada song for which a dance was choreographed was not shown to the world TV but only in DD. Thats for J H Patel's achievements. He barely completed the Mysore Road flyover and did not do any work for improvement to infrastructure or business inflow.

On the contrary, Krishna's works were good. He improved the brand name of Bangalore and he started BATF which co-ordinated with various agencies for Bangalore works and its latest avatar Abide is still active, which goes on to show the success of BATF. He was instrumental in pushing and finally achieving financial closure for BIAL project. Overall he was a good CM. And also remember that he did not lose so badly as J H Patel did. J H Patel lost outright whereas Krishna got into a hung assembly.

BTW Rakshith has thrashed both Sleepy (Deve) Gowda and J H Patel (read his post properly). And you single out Patel and ignore Gowda. This is called yellow eyes.

gentem

January 13th, 2011, 07:27 AM

^^ ITPL opened in 1999, thanks to j h patel, second cluster after el city which fueled on the middle of these 2 clusters that is ORR IT. krishna came to power in october 99. elevated expressway on mysore road. second is richmond flyover. ORR work started in 1994, progressed well for next 5 years. Miss world is indeed important for brand bangalore in conservative India of 1990s, if held in delhi there would have been riots. but playing kannada song is, well, a non issue.

no thanks to BATF or ABIDe, bunch of whiners and no more.

engineer.akash

January 13th, 2011, 10:14 AM

Ok guys calm down there is no point digging out the history and discussing it now.

@Gentem

Rakshith was not supporting JD(s)/devegowda in any of his posts.I do agree with him on SM Krishna's contribution.Now let us not carry forward this discussion.

gentem

January 13th, 2011, 12:22 PM

Cyber event to boost ITPL (http://www.cscsarchive.org:8081/MediaArchive/news.nsf/%28docid%29/D4EF7A22F5952F856525694000678102)
Deccan Herald, 01-11-1998. By Michael Patrao
INTERNATIONAL Tech Park Limited (ITPL), located in Whitefleld near Bangalore, will be the beehive of Cyberactivity for the next five days during the Bangalore IT Com ‘98. The Park which was set up with great expectations, did not really attract many Information technology (IT) companies.

However, an interview with Mr Goh Kok Huat, chief executive officer, ITPL, on the eve of the inauguration of Bangalore IT.Com ‘98 reveal that things will not be the same alter the show.

Are you happy with the occupancy rate at lTPL?

Fifty per cent of the space in the first phase is occupied by 14 companies in addition to 11 other companies which will set up soon, adding in all to 25 companies. Many of these companies represent new investment, while others are multinational companies. This is a pretty good record.

The last company to occupy space in ITPL was in early October. Another two company have just signed on the dotted line. We hope to achieve 80 per cent occupancy by June 1999, after which we will going in for second-phase.

How are you promoting ITPL during the Banglore IT. Com 98?

As the show is being held at International Tech Park itself the exhibitors and visitors can see for themselves the facilities we have to offer.

Don’t IT companies lose their identity by setting up business in the IT Park?

It Is true that some large companies prefer to have their own building to retain their name and Identity. But to many others we provide the economies of scale. On their own, their cost of operating would go up. We even have large companies like Wipro Limited occupying an entire floor with 80,000 sq. feet.

Further we have VSNL Earth Station, which would not be possible for individual software companies to set up. We have remote telephone switching exchange connected by fibre optic cable to Whitefield exchange expandable up to 12,000 lines and connections are provided within 24 hours. Is this possible anywhere else?

We also provide assistance to process all permits, licences and approvals from various sanctioning authorities and government departments.

Do you intend to allot space to companies other than IT firms?

Apart from software, telecommunication and electronic companies this facility will make more sense to hi-tech companies. It would be odd, for instance, for a textile trading company to set up business here.
We are now talking to a broadcasting company. Now is this a IT company? At least It is a hi-tech company.
Singapore has 40 per cent stake in ITPL. Why is it that there are not many companies from Singapore which have occupied space at ITPL?
Singapore is a small country. We have three companies from Singapore at ITPL. That is quite a lot.

Would you be happy to have Microsoft at ITPL?

We were talking to Microsoft. They have decided to go to Hyderabad. But that is not the end of the world. They have taken 50,000 square feet in Hyderabad and Microsoft is a large company. It does not preclude them from going to places other than Hyderabad, For instance, Microsoft was thinking of setting up their service headquarters in Malaysia and finally decided on Singapore.
Besides Microsoft there are many other big players in software industry. We have been talking to some large US IT companies.

Like Sun Microsystem?

(Smiles). You have been listening to out marketers.
1998 was ITPL opened.. futuristic.. ahead of time.. all hail J H Patel

ullasavadan

January 13th, 2011, 01:32 PM

Cyber event to boost ITPL (http://www.cscsarchive.org:8081/MediaArchive/news.nsf/%28docid%29/D4EF7A22F5952F856525694000678102)
Deccan Herald, 01-11-1998. By Michael Patrao

1998 was ITPL opened.. futuristic.. ahead of time.. all hail J H Patel

All hail J H Patel :master: :master:. He is the best CM Karnataka ever had...... errrrr any state in India ever had. He was a visionary and uncomparable. He developed Karnataka to be the best state in India and because of the work he did in only 4+ years Karnataka is and will always be the best state in India forever. We were fortunate to have him as the CM of Karnataka and we will never have anybody like him. We miss him and his leadership. Let him take one more avatar and born again in Karnataka to take us to more glorious days.

Gentem r u happy now??? Thank you for enlightening us with his achievements.

engineer.akash

January 13th, 2011, 02:15 PM

15 MLAs may be suspended from K'taka Assembly

India Blooms News Service

Bangalore, Jan 13 (IBNS) Fifteen MLAs from Congress and Janata Dal (Secular) may be suspended for raking up the Karnataka Assembly and stalling the proceedings of the House, reports said on Thursday.

An Assembly committee, headed by Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) MLA Appachu Ranjan, on Thursday recommended to Speaker KG Bopaiah the suspension of eight MLAs for one year and seven MLAs for six months.

The MLAs under one year suspension recommendation are Rehman Khan, Kakaso Pandvraj Patel, Haris, UT Qadir (all Congress), Zameer Khan, CS Putraju, Krishnapa and HC Balakrishna (all JDS).

The MLAs under six-month suspension recommendation are BK Sangmesh, Suresh Gowda, HP Manjunath, PM Ashah (all Congress), Bandema Kashem, K Raju, KB Bachegowda (all JDS).

Proceedings in the Karnataka state Assembly had to be adjourned for the fourth day in a row as the Opposition continued their noisy protests on Thursday.

Congress and JD-S members marched into the well of the House yet again, objecting the election of the deputy Speaker of the Legislative Assembly and shouting slogans against the ruling government for corruption.

They said the protests were not directed towards the appointment of Yogish Bhat as the deputy Speaker, but were against the election procedure which was carried out in the absence of a number of MLAs.

Starting Monday, the Assembly Session had to be called off after the Opposition started clamouring for not being allowed to discuss corruption charges against Chief Minister B S Yeddyurappa.

:banana:

gentem

January 13th, 2011, 04:07 PM

^^ that will be the murder of democracy. that wont happen. max they should suspend for 3 months.. crucial bye elections and another trust vote coming in 6 months time

think-tank

January 13th, 2011, 04:37 PM

^^ Murder of Democracy? JDS dosen't even know what that means, you can go and ask them if you like. Democracy is all about consensus, how do you expect these dullards to behave in the house?

gentem

January 13th, 2011, 04:42 PM

^^ equations are tight. bjp has 106-100 majority, but likely that disqualification of independents will be quashed. so bjp will have 106-105 majority. and bye elections for 11 seats will come in six months and results can go either side. cong-jds can come to power for 2 years immediately after bye elections.

but suspending 10+ mlas for an year is very bad for indian democracy. i think central govt will act in that case.

we should play games. but a fair game :)

engineer.akash

January 13th, 2011, 09:18 PM

we should play games. but a fair game :)

Kathae jothe fair game adakae pursath yaarig edhae?Aavagala mado reethi nodadrae aataa dhali ira bara kantri moves hodi baek aagathae adh ashtae saalala aa MLA'galana disqualify madbaeku :cheers:

If you are playing a game against JD(S) and Congress make sure you know all dirty tricks before you start

gentem

January 14th, 2011, 03:39 AM

^^ but there is a limit. suspending 1 year out of 5 year term is outright unfair. and that wont happen.

Opposition members stage dharna: Govt rushes through business
Cold vibes mark end of winter session
(http://www.deccanherald.com/content/128877/cold-vibes-mark-end-winter.html)Bangalore, Jan 13 DHNS

The winter session of the Legislative Assembly ended on a chilly note on Thursday with the Opposition staging a day-long dharna in front of Kengal Hanumanthaiah’s statue, demanding the resignation of Chief Minister B S Yeddyurappa over the issue of corruption, and the ruling party pushing through the official businesses in the absence of Opposition members.

http://www.deccanherald.com/images/editor_images1/2011/01/13/mla.jpg

Speaker K G Bopaiah adjourned the House sine die cutting short the scheduled 11-day session to only six days. The House was scheduled to meet till January 20. Except for an obituary reference to former members, the Opposition did not participate in proceedings of the House.

Members of the Opposition parties that have been on a warpath over the land scam issue, created ruckus even during the Governor’s address to the joint session of the Legislature. Later, they insisted that an adjournment motion on land scam and corruption issues be taken up before other official business, which was opposed by the Treasury benches.

However, the ruling party went ahead with the official business in the last two days and ensured that about 10 important Bills, including the Appropriation Bill, Karnataka University (Amendment) Bill, BWSSB (Amendment) Bill and the Karnataka Civil Services (Transfer of Medical Doctors and Paramedical staff) amendment bill, were passed.

The ruling party used the session to table two House committee reports -- Appachu Ranjan committee report and Hemachandra Sagar committee report -- that enable the Speaker to disqualify Opposition members for their alleged unruly behaviour in the House.
perfectly ok to pass the bills.. even the session 6 months ago was also washed out for bellary padayatra

engineer.akash

January 14th, 2011, 03:37 PM

A new spell
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A turn for the better: Kumble at the KSCA office in Chinnaswamy Stadium / Photo: Russell Shahul
DAWN TO DUSK

Kumble brings a corporate style of functioning to cricket administration

By Neeru Bhatia/Bangalore

The Karnataka State Cricket Association headquarters in Chinnaswamy Stadium, Bangalore, is a beehive of activity these days. Work starts at 10 a.m.—meetings, matches, scrutinising files, followed by more meetings. Transparency, professionalism, delegation and modernisation are the new buzzwords. At the KSCA secretary’s office, former Indian pace spearhead Javagal Srinath is talking to the representatives of a lighting company about sprucing up the floodlighting for the forthcoming ICC World Cup in February.

In walks Anil Kumble, dressed in a striped formal shirt and dark brown trousers—still looking fit enough to play for India. He reels off instructions to the staff in his soft yet firm voice. He has an air of purpose and authority. As the president of the KSCA, Kumble has taken charge—much like the way he did with the Indian team when he was anointed skipper.

His decision to pull out of the Indian Premier League auction brought down the curtains on his cricketing career, but Kumble is ?starting a new spell as a cricket administrator. “We thought this was the right time to get in. Otherwise Karnataka cricket would suffer,” says Kumble, who became president of the KSCA after defeating the incumbent president Srikanta Datta Narasimharaja Wadiyar, the titular Maharaja of Mysore, in November last year.

Srinath sums up what made them step into the world of administration. “We learnt our cricket here, spent 20 years of our lives here, we feel a natural responsibility towards it. We could have sat back and criticised, but we wanted to make a difference,” ?he says.
Kumble and his group, which includes Srinath and former Indian pacer Venkatesh Prasad, swept the KSCA elections, winning 22 of 24 ?seats. “We wanted elimination of syndicates and a clear mandate,” says Srinath. “We stated our vision. We divided the voting areas based on geography instead of community. We then decided who was with us and who wasn’t by marking them under red, green and yellow heads.” Things really swung into their favour when Brijesh Patel, KSCA secretary for 12 years, threw his weight behind Kumble after much dilly-dallying.

Kumble has the moral and vocal support of Rahul Dravid, India’s Test cricketer who plays for Karnataka. “He is aware of what is happening in Karnataka cricket,” says Kumble. “He knows what’s required. We are on the same page. His support is important.” Since Team Kumble took charge, winds of change have been blowing in Karnataka cricket. “A massive change in mindset is needed,” says Kumble.

Kumble’s approach to his new innings is reminiscent of his captaincy—cool, well-planned and effectively man-managed. He spells out his plans over a hurried lunch—lemon rice and curd from home—laid out by an attendant in his sprawling yet sparsely decorated office. “Ghar ka khana,” he remarks, relishing one of the pluses of retirement.

“We have a very good team in place,” Kumble says. “Once you put certain processes in place, delegate, give responsibility to people and make them leaders, it should be fine.” The language and manner of functioning of Kumble and his team are corporate. With both Kumble and Srinath being software engineers, there is an emphasis on systems and technology.

The KSCA is now in a race against time to give the Chinnaswamy stadium a much-needed facelift before the World Cup—better facilities for the players, the media and the public, and HDTV for the audience, besides a paint job. Creating a talent pool, nurturing talent, developing facilties in districts and building a state-of-the-art KSCA academy are also on top of their agenda. Says Srinath, “We have to give life to district academies. We aim to have academies in Mysore, Hubli and Dharward districts, where cricketers miss out due to lack of opportunities. Whatever we do, we have to keep in mind that it will be for the next 20 years.”

The BCCI has welcomed Kumble warmly, although it has always been wary of players getting too vocal. “Mr [Sharad] Pawar sent me a letter, and I got congratulatory calls from the Board president and secretary. There were so many messages from friends and fellow cricketers,” he says. Kumble, who now represents KSCA in the BCCI, debuted at the special general body meeting called last month. The meeting was called to reconstitute the disciplinary committee hearing allegations against former IPL commissioner Lalit Modi.

Kumble has also replaced former Indian skipper Ravi Shastri as the chairman of the BCCI’s National Cricket Academy (NCA) in Banga-lore. Started a decade ago by the late Raj Singh Dungarpur, the NCA has been lacking in direction. “What I have in mind,” says Kumble, “is not investing in physical infrastructure but in the cricket set-up. That can be kick-started as soon as the land for new NCA becomes available. Within two years, back-end technology should be with us to monitor each player. Today, if a 16-year-old comes for an under-19 camp and then leaves the NCA, there is no tracking. There is not much interaction between state academies and the NCA. Plus there is the mental side of cricket—teaching young cricketers to cope with the media and their agents’ demands.”

But the NCA challenge might be stiffer than others as he deals with a committee which has little idea and no cricketers. A barrier exists when Kumble talks about systems and technology. He would prefer a free hand, but that is asking for the moon.

“I am planning to build a database so that a cricketer’s improvement can be monitored. The purpose of the NCA is not only to develop talent but sustain and improve performance over time,” says Kumble. A biomechanics lab and a lab for soil tests for pitches are also being planned, he says.

Since retirement, Kumble has turned to his passion—photography. He is equally, if not more, enthusiastic about his role in the Karnataka State Wildlife Board. As its vice-chairman, he is making efforts to vitalise the board, refusing to be just another name on a ‘sarkari’ organisation. Kumble's designation is equivalent to a state minister's, and he is entitled to security, a driver and an escort car with beacon. But he does not use ?those and, instead, prefers to pay from his own pocket for the driver of his brand new Mercedes Marron.

Kumble has also started a conse-rvation initiative, the Jumbo Foundation, named after his nickname. It recently hosted the Jumbo Wildlife Awards to honour forest officers in Karnataka. Kumble also runs a sports management agency, Tenwic, and has opted to remain with his IPL team, Royal Challengers Bangalore, as its chief mentor.

Kumble is one of the most popular figures in Karnataka, so is politics the next step for him? “No,” he shakes his head firmly. What about other options—of being the national coach or a selector? “If I had to travel with Team India, I could well have continued playing,” Kumble says.

So, can he be a good administrator? Kumble is not the first player to get into cricket administration. There have been others who took a successful shot at it—Dilip Vengsarkar, Shivlal Yadav, Venkatapathy Raju and Rajesh Chauhan, to name a few. Kumble’s pullout from the IPL is only the end of his long spell as a player. He is aware of the expectations from his new innings. “The blueprint is in place,” he says. “These are achievable targets and three years is enough to deliver most of it.”

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Ravi shastri is actually a mangalorean who settled in mumbai.Kumble is a Mechnaical engg not software engg and Srinath is an Instrumentation engg :cheers:

gentem

January 15th, 2011, 06:45 PM

Petrol dearer by up to Rs 2.54 per litre
PTI, Jan 15, 2011, 07.05pm IST

NEW DELHI: State-owned oil companies on Saturday raised petrol prices by Rs 2.50-Rs 2.54 per litre, the second hike in a month, on back of rising crude oil prices.

Indian Oil Corp, the nation's largest fuel retailer, will raise petrol prices by Rs 2.50 per litre with effect from midnight on Saturday night, while Hindustan Petroleum Corp Ltd (HPCL) would hike rates by Rs 2.54 a litre, an industry official said.

Bharat Petroleum Corp, the third state fuel retailer, would raise price by Rs 2.53 per litre with effect from midnight on Saturday. they want tax money for populist programs to win elections..

The three firms from on December 15-16 raised petrol prices by Rs 2.94-2.96 per litre, the biggest hike in six months.

Petrol at IOC outlets in Delhi now costs 55.87 per litre and from Sunday it will be priced at Rs 58.37 a litre.

The fuel at HPCL and BPCL pumps would be sold at Rs 58.39 per litre from Sunday.

Petrol at HPCL pumps at present costs Rs 55.85 per litre while it is priced at Rs 55.86 a litre at BPCL fuel bunks.

The official said the increase follows international crude oil prices climbing to USD 92 per barrel.

The state-run retailers are deliberately adopting marginally different rates to avoid being accused of acting as a cartel in the free market.

The government had freed petrol prices in June this year, but the state firms, which control 98 per cent of the retail market, continue to informally consult the oil ministry before revising prices.

Read more: Petrol dearer by up to Rs 2.54 per litre - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/Petrol-dearer-by-up-to-Rs-254-per-litre-/articleshow/7292592.cms#ixzz1B7wDkC00
60% tax plus deregulation of price :bash: central govt should reduce tax first, later state govts :bash: vote this congress out of power :ohno:

Cut taxes on petrol, diesel: FM to states
TNN, Jul 25, 2010, 02.16am IST
NEW DELHI: In a move to check the price spiral, finance minister Pranab Mukherjee is believed to have urged states to cut taxes on petroleum products, like petrol and diesel.

Sources said that the FM's suggestion to the chief ministers came at Saturday's National Development Council meeting, in response to their contention that the Centre was collecting a lot of revenue from the petroleum sector. Mukherjee, however, told them that the states were the bigger beneficiaries.

The Centre collects Rs 1.08 lakh crore as taxes from petroleum products, while the states collectively mop up around Rs 72,000 crore annually, the FM said, emphasizing that one also needed to look at the amount which the Centre shares with the states.

After transferring Rs 24,000 crore as per the recommendations of the 13th Finance Commission, the Centre's portion will come down to Rs 87,000 crore, while that of states will go up to Rs 96,000 crore.

Read more: Cut taxes on petrol, diesel: FM to states - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Cut-taxes-on-petrol-diesel-FM-to-states/articleshow/6211806.cms#ixzz1BI0EEvnP

gentem

January 17th, 2011, 06:48 AM

Corporator chased, hacked, shot dead
Rajiv Kalkod, TNN, Jan 17, 2011, 02.26am IST
BANGALORE: JD(S) corporator Diwan Ali, a rowdy facing murder and dacoity charges, was chased down a narrow lane in a Banashankari locality, hacked and shot dead by a group of seven assailants in a gang war on Sunday.

Ali alias Mohammed Ali, 37, was shot pointblank around 12.30pm at Yarabnagar, just a few yards from his office, in Banashankari. The murder sent a stab of fear in the sleepy locality.

The police said Ali, a first-time corporator, had gone to a barber shop for a shave when he was attacked with a machete by the assailants. A bleeding Ali with 13 wounds fell to the ground, gathered himself up and tried to run away. Then, the assailants pinned him down to the ground, pumped bullets and drove a crowbar into his chest, scripting another gory chapter in Bangalore's gang wars.

Ali's associates Khaleem Ulla alias Khaleeluddeen, Zaheer, Umar and Kaleem — who provided a ring of security — suffered injuries in the attack and are being treated at a hospital. Ali had recently asked the police to withdraw the security for reasons best known to him.

Ali, a rowdy in police records since 1994, was facing 36 cases, including murder, robbery and dacoity, and had been acquitted in 11.

Read more: Corporator chased, hacked, shot dead - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bangalore/Corporator-chased-hacked-shot-dead/articleshow/7300835.cms#ixzz1BGiSF8MH

hacking to death is fine, but bullets are not, this is bangalore not bihar. Shankar Bidari should go :bash:

ullasavadan

January 17th, 2011, 07:01 AM

Corporator chased, hacked, shot dead
Rajiv Kalkod, TNN, Jan 17, 2011, 02.26am IST

hacking to death is fine, but bullets are not, this is bangalore not bihar. Shankar Bidari should go :bash:

hacking to death or bullets, any form of killing is bad and is unacceptable in a civilised society. There is no way you can accept one and leave other. Both or bad and gruesome and should be condemned and avoided.

gentem

January 17th, 2011, 07:57 AM

^^ yes we should condemn :doh: but can we stop? bullet crimes are easier to stop than hacking crimes

AP stands 2nd in suicides
TNN, Jan 17, 2011, 06.57am IST

NEW DELHI: India reported 348 suicides and 418 accidental deaths per day in 2009, data released by the National Crime Records Bureau (NCRB) showed.

Suicides rose 1.7% compared to 2008 while accidental deaths, including those in road mishaps, increased by 7.3% over the last year. A total of 1,27,151 suicides and 3,57,021 accidental deaths were reported in 2009.
"A total of 223 males commit suicides per day in the country while the number for women is 125 out of which 69 are housewives. Seventy-three people commit suicide on a single day due to illness while 10 are driven to suicide due to love affairs," the NCRB report said.

West Bengal topped the list with 14,648 suicides followed by Andhra Pradesh (14,500), Tamil Nadu (14,424), Maharashtra (14,300) and Karnataka (12,195). These five states accounted for 55.1% of the total suicides. Delhi recorded 1,477 suicides in 2009. UP rehas a comparatively lower number of suicides –- 3.3% of total cases. The data showed that suicides among farmers had increased during the period with five states — Maharashtra (2,872), AP (2,414), Karnataka (2,282), Chhattisgarh (1,802) and Madhya Pradesh (1,395) — accounting for nearly two-thirds of all farm suicides in the country. A total of 17,368 farmer suicides were reported in 2009, an increase of over 7% over 2008.

Maharashtra remained the worst state for farm suicides for the tenth year running. Tamil Nadu reported the biggest increase, from 512 in 2008 to 1,060 in 2009.

Poor states like Bihar (112), Orissa (154) and Jharkhand (164) reported far fewer suicides.
On the reasons for people committing suicides, family problems and illness topped the list with 23.7 and 21% cases respectively.

"It is observed that social and economic causes have led most of the males to commit suicide whereas emotional and personal causes have mainly driven women to end their lives," the report said, adding the number of suicides due to unemployment and professional/career problems showed an increase of 18.8% and 15.1% respectively in 2009.
Among cities, Bangalore (2,167), Chennai (1,412), Delhi (1,215) and Mumbai (1,051) together reported almost 43.3% of the total suicides reported from 35 big cities in the country.

However, in terms of rate of rise in accidental deaths, the highest increase was reported from Pune.
As far as accidental deaths are concerned, road accidents accounted for 37.9% followed by poisoning (8%), railway accidents (7.8%), drowning (7.7%) and fire accidents (7%).

Read more: AP stands 2nd in suicides - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/hyderabad/AP-stands-2nd-in-suicides/articleshow/7301614.cms#ixzz1BGyhAY4L

that is 1,27,000 suicides and 1,53,000 accidental deaths per year in india:bash: bangalore knowledge capital and suicide capital of india :) so much gap with second place city

sudheeshnairs

January 17th, 2011, 08:26 AM

hacking to death is fine, but bullets are not, this is bangalore not bihar. :

I cannot resist responding to this;

From the point of view of the victim, dying with gunshot is better, and perfect if shot in head, than being hacked to death with your limbs and other body parts severed and having a bleeding, slow death.

gentem

January 17th, 2011, 09:07 AM

I cannot resist responding to this;

From the point of view of the victim, dying with gunshot is better, and perfect if shot in head, than being hacked to death with your limbs and other body parts severed and having a bleeding, slow death.

i was talking from law and order point of view. it is difficult to control hacking weapons that are simple long blades(machchu), but much easier to control pistols and bullet supply/stocking for police. bangalore always had this blade culture as seen in many kannada movies, but moving to bullet culture is clear deterioration of the security situation of the city :ohno: so shankar bidari should go

sixsigma1978

January 17th, 2011, 11:15 AM

i was talking from law and order point of view. it is difficult to control hacking weapons that are simple long blades(machchu), but much easier to control pistols and bullet supply/stocking for police. bangalore always had this blade culture as seen in many kannada movies, but moving to bullet culture is clear deterioration of the security situation of the city :ohno: so shankar bidari should go

A goon is gone. Bangalore has one less criminal corporator. All graphs point upwards!! any means is good enough - guns, knives, machetes or by forcing them to watch this :D:
cMvxinBkOZU

engineer.akash

January 17th, 2011, 12:07 PM

Reddy Bros Foresee Dissolution of Assembly

Bangalore, Jan. 17 (DC): There is growing speculation about the BJP government heading for yet another crisis with the powerful Reddy brothers reportedly dropping broad hints about the possibility of the legislative assembly being dissolved ahead of its term.

It is claimed the mining barons turned ministers are afraid of the fallout of the report of the Supreme Court appointed committee which looked into allegations of illegal mining by their Obalapuram Mining Company in Andhra Pradesh.

“The brothers are talking about the assembly being dissolved in the near future as they are convinced Chief Minister B S Yeddyurappa is here to stay and continuing in his Cabinet for his remaining term in office will not serve their purpose,” sources said, pointing out that it was unlikely the ministers would get to occupy greater positions of power in the government when the Supreme Court was showing so much interest in charges of illegal mining against them.

“Things were different when they had cherished dreams about occupying the posts of Chief Minister and deputy chief minister, but now when there is no such possibility and they could instead be sacked as a result of the investigation by the Supreme Court panel, they see no reason to go on as before. The ministers are aware that Mr Yeddyurappa will ask for their resignations if the apex court upholds the CEC report in the next fortnight,” they claimed.

The brothers’ reportedly first gave an indication about which way the wind was blowing when a party worker approached tourism minister G Janardhan Reddy recently for a ticket to contest the assembly byelections to constituencies vacated by the Congress and Janata Dal (S) legislators who joined the BJP in October last year to ensure the Yeddyurappa government's survival after the disqualification of 16 ruling party MLAs by the Speaker.

The minister allegedly told the partyman that there would be no by-elections to the assembly as it was heading for dissolution. While this reported comment has sparked off rumours about their intentions, sources close to the Reddy brothers denied they had any such plan in mind.

If the apex court rules in favour of the rebel legislators keeping their seats in the assembly, the BSY government will have no alternative but to dissolve the assembly as it gives the opposition ranks the upper hand; equally problematic, say sources within the BJP, is the fact that even if the court disqualifies the rebels, the BJP would be the loser in the by-elections as Congress and JD(S) votes would consolidate in favour of the rebels.

Daijiworld (http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=93558)

Best dissolve the assembly and go for fresh elections.:cheers:

MeMumbaikar

January 17th, 2011, 12:37 PM

damn

lot of suicides in bangalore.

SBC-YPR

January 17th, 2011, 03:09 PM

nandan_ks

January 17th, 2011, 03:20 PM

gentem

January 17th, 2011, 04:09 PM

Good. :cheers::cheers: Hopefully this will encourage more people to give up their cars and use public transport, thereby reducing traffic and pollution as well. Subsidy on diesel for non-HTV should go as well.

diesel is NOT subsidised :doh: first it is taxed 50% then it is subsidised 10% :bash: @nandan too

Cut taxes on petrol, diesel: FM to states

TNN, Jul 25, 2010, 02.16am IST

NEW DELHI: In a move to check the price spiral, finance minister Pranab Mukherjee is believed to have urged states to cut taxes on petroleum products, like petrol and diesel.

Sources said that the FM's suggestion to the chief ministers came at Saturday's National Development Council meeting, in response to their contention that the Centre was collecting a lot of revenue from the petroleum sector. Mukherjee, however, told them that the states were the bigger beneficiaries.

The Centre collects Rs 1.08 lakh crore as taxes from petroleum products, while the states collectively mop up around Rs 72,000 crore annually, the FM said, emphasizing that one also needed to look at the amount which the Centre shares with the states.

After transferring Rs 24,000 crore as per the recommendations of the 13th Finance Commission, the Centre's portion will come down to Rs 87,000 crore, while that of states will go up to Rs 96,000 crore.

To counter the opposition parties on the issue of price rise, a senior Cabinet minister said that he was willing to join the agitation if this could bring down prices. He was responding to the NDA-ruled CMs' points about the nation-wide bandh held to register protest against rising prices.

"Rising prices have made life very difficult for people across the country... The overwhelming response to the recent Bharat Bandh is a timely warning which cannot be ignored," Gujarat CM Narendra Modi said at the NDC meet.

The FM also assured the states that the Centre will fully compensate them on possible losses arising from implementation of the goods and services tax (GST) regime. The chief ministers of BJP-ruled states had raised concerns about autonomy saying the new tax regime should not curtail their power to levy taxes.

Read more: Cut taxes on petrol, diesel: FM to states - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Cut-taxes-on-petrol-diesel-FM-to-states/articleshow/6211806.cms#ixzz1BJ0q21AI

engineer.akash

January 17th, 2011, 04:46 PM

State may head for mid term polls

http://news.oneindia.in/2011/01/17/inbjp-or-not-hearing-on-disqualified-mlas-gathersmomentum-aid0126.html
^^ equations are tight. bjp has 106-100 majority, but likely that disqualification of independents will be quashed. so bjp will have 106-105 majority. and bye elections for 11 seats will come in six months and results can go either side. cong-jds can come to power for 2 years immediately after bye elections.

Assume BJP wins 7 out of 11 seats then that adds upto 113 perfect boundary mark.Did anyone watch Super CM program on tv9?Upendra has asked CM to dissolve assembly and come up with full majority when yeddurappa confessed that he is not able to gain control over his partymen with wafer thin majority

Hope they dissolve the assembly and go afresh :cheers:
BJP is sure to get 110+ seats if elections are held now.

think-tank

January 17th, 2011, 04:52 PM

State may head for mid term polls

http://news.oneindia.in/2011/01/17/inbjp-or-not-hearing-on-disqualified-mlas-gathersmomentum-aid0126.html

Hope they dissolve the assembly and go fresh :cheers:
BJP is sure to get 110+ seats if elections are held now.

Yes, make sure Mysorians vote for the right party this time :lol:

engineer.akash

January 17th, 2011, 05:04 PM

Yes, make sure Mysorians vote for the right party this time :lol:

Mysore city for sure will vote for BJP,but rural Mysore junta vote for congress and jd(S).
Don't worry BJP is strong in north karnataka(Belgaum,Hubli-Dharwad,Bellary regions),coastal Karnataka(Mangalore,udupi regions) and central karnataka-maldnad region (shimoga,davangere regions) BJP can easily net 80+ seats in their kitty.:happy:

BJP has gained in -Bijapur,Madikeri,Bangalore urban,kolar taking in account recent ZP elections

BJP has lost- Uttar kannada (Karwar) and that being deshpande's stronghold :ohno:

nandan_ks

January 17th, 2011, 05:10 PM

diesel is NOT subsidised :doh: first it is taxed 50% then it is subsidised 10% :bash: @nandan too

Cut taxes on petrol, diesel: FM to states

TNN, Jul 25, 2010, 02.16am IST

May be I'm not aware of the taxation structure of Diesel. :dunno:

Extraction of Diesel costs more than that of Petrol, hence I was under the impression its highly subsidised.

gentem

January 17th, 2011, 05:20 PM

May be I'm not aware of the taxation structure of Diesel. :dunno:

Extraction of Diesel costs more than that of Petrol, hence I was under the impression its highly subsidised.

not just u, many well educated ppl too dont know this tax. center taxes 20%+ on diesel, and state govts tax 20%+ on top of that. while central govt companies run at loss(so called subsidy) for diesel, not central govt. those companies are at lil loss in petrol too [recent] (http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/energy/oil--gas/ioc-losing-rs-122-per-litre-on-petrol-sale/articleshow/7302969.cms)

both petrol and diesel actual cost is almost same. in case of petrol both central and state govt tax 25%+ each. u read the TOI report state and center together make 1.8 lakh crore per annum by this method by petrol and diesel together..

MeMumbaikar

January 17th, 2011, 06:54 PM

ChennaiIndian

January 17th, 2011, 10:42 PM

... this is bangalore not bihar...

The same words are applicable to the below post. :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

State may head for mid term polls
...

tamil2000

January 18th, 2011, 02:10 AM

May be I'm not aware of the taxation structure of Diesel. :dunno:

Extraction of Diesel costs more than that of Petrol, hence I was under the impression its highly subsidised.

You are correct, the subsidiary on diesel makes its price lower than petrol in India. In the USA, both petrol and diesel cost almost the same, when none of them is subsidized. Both of them are sold at the market price.

gentem

January 18th, 2011, 04:34 AM

Govt boost for Kannada in CBSE
Mathang Seshagiri, TNN, Jan 18, 2011, 02.24am IST
BANGALORE: If you plan to send your children to a CBSE or ICSE school, be prepared to make sure they can read and write Kannada.

Bombarded by applications from schools seeking affiliation to the Central Board of Secondary Education (CBSE) and Council for the Indian School Certificate Examinations (CISCE), the Karnataka government is putting in place stringent rules to control the language policy, admission process and fee structure while granting no-objection certificates (NOC).

Despite a visible increase in demand for English-medium education, the government has drafted rules which make it mandatory for schools to implement the state language policy. In schools wanting affiliation to CBSE/CISEC, the medium of instruction should be Kannada or mother tongue of the child between Classes 1 to 5. Even after getting affiliation to central boards, the school should compulsorily teach Kannada as a subject.

While seeking NOC from the primary and secondary education department, schools must give an undertaking that the admission to pre-primary classes will be done only in April. During fee revision, they must consult parents, and there's no room for mid-session hikes. The draft rules are in the public domain and schools and parents can air their views. It's the first time the government has framed rules for granting NOCs to schools seeking affiliation to other boards.

While starting pre-primary schools, the management has to obtain prior permission according to the Karnataka Educational Institutions (Classification and Registration) Rules, 1997. To ensure ample play space for kids, schools should have at least 1 acre of land in metropolitan areas and 2 acres elsewhere. A certificate from fire authorities and audit reports for three years are also a must. The NOC will cost schools Rs 1 lakh and will be valid for two years.

Read more: Govt boost for Kannada in CBSE - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bangalore/Govt-boost-for-Kannada-in-CBSE/articleshow/7308299.cms#ixzz1BLx0mbiF

ChennaiIndian

January 18th, 2011, 04:41 AM

gentem

January 18th, 2011, 04:57 AM

^^ Not sure if states can control CBSE schools. Kannada can be offered as another language/subject - here it can be compulsory (like the TN model). However, having it as a medium of instruction may not fly through. I wudn't want KA to be a WB in this regard. :ohno:

court stayed that kannada medium constraint. only that one subject must be kannada thats all. i think that should be enough, some people object even that :)

ChennaiIndian

January 18th, 2011, 06:23 AM

gentem

January 18th, 2011, 06:33 AM

^^ In TN which is always contends with language issues, that one subject thing exists only in State Board or Matriculation schools. Apart from that, full medium is offered in State Board schools. However, in CBSE schools I don't think Tamil is compulsory - medium or just one subject. I think this is where KA is making it contentious by extending it to CBSE schools.

no, it is not contentious issue. contentious issue was medium of instruction, where state govt stopped issuing permits for english medium asking for kannada medium from 1st standard to 5th. this was stayed by court saying it is parents' choice to choose the medium. but kannada as one language a must in all schools including cbse/icse. problem was there in kendriya vidyalaya's where sanskrit was also compulsary making it 4 languages :nuts:

ChennaiIndian

January 18th, 2011, 06:46 AM

^^ If KA doesn't have problems with accepting Hindi without stressing the local language as what you are proclaiming frequently, then why problems with imposing Kannada?

gentem

January 18th, 2011, 06:59 AM

^^ If KA doesn't have problems with accepting Hindi without stressing the local language as what you are proclaiming frequently, then why problems with imposing Kannada?

I never proclaimed so :cheers: We make unanimous decisions on kannada, like recent order to put kannada boards. no fuss there only courts can stay such orders and no politician can. I said we dont impose kannada on adult migrants like done in chennai(by illegal harassing), but their children should learn kannada.

ChennaiIndian

January 18th, 2011, 07:03 AM

gentem

January 18th, 2011, 07:14 AM

^^ So, KA is imposing its local language on the 1st generation migrants; TN has done it even before that. The end result that in a few years, KA will become like TN when it comes to local language issue. Its just that its delayed but not anything different. :lol:

children pick up a new language easily. and kannada wont be extra as they will be studying 3 languages already, got this point? all this is done by rule of law, not by local people harassing outside adult migrants. So it is not same as TN, period.

But say for me an adult, i take it as atrocity on me to impose a new language where i should be learning more about my work related things to improve my productivity.

ChennaiIndian

January 18th, 2011, 07:16 AM

^^ I totally disagree with this. However, I will stop here. :)

naveen_blr

January 18th, 2011, 07:26 AM

Why cant people opt for Kannada instead of a 2nd Language Hindi in CBSE Schools?
Isnt it important for a migrant to learn the local language? I guess so.

gentem

January 18th, 2011, 07:36 AM

Why cant people opt for Kannada instead of a 2nd Language Hindi in CBSE Schools?
Isnt it important for a migrant to learn the local language? I guess so.

even for cbse people kannda is must as one language either 2nd or third language doesnt matter.

If it is important to learn local language is sole decision of the individual adult migrant himself. being an adult he will decide if it is good for him. generally adult business people learn local language while technical people dont.

naveen_blr

January 18th, 2011, 10:39 AM

I will show u 1001 businessmen in Bengaluru who do not know Kannada ...take any builder the Reddys talk to them in Kannada ...Its only the labour class which sometimes learns

naveen_blr

January 18th, 2011, 10:40 AM

How Delhi fixed its traffic. Or did it?

Though traffic management has eased some pressure, Delhi continues to be the most unsafe city in India for pedestrians and motorists

Team DNA

It was a terrible time to be in Delhi in the early nineties. The roads were chock-a-block, traffic was multiplying faster that rabbits, the road infrastructure was creaking, signals were out of whack, road rage was becoming the new buzzword in town, getting into public transport was worse than contact sport, auto drivers were a law unto themselves and crossing roads meant survival of the fittest.
The total vehicle population (including jeeps, buses, two-wheelers, cars etc.) in Delhi in 1990-91 was around 18 lakh. These days, around 1,000 vehicles are registered in Delhi every day.
The Delhi government, along with a clutch of some capable officers in traffic police, undertook a series of reforms that resulted in streamlining of traffic. Miles-long algorithms were written to synchronise traffic signals; flyovers sprang up everywhere; surveillance cameras were installed at strategic locations to fine errant motorists; areas with high traffic density were declared zero-tolerance zones (motorists were fined for the slightest of mistakes); traffic came to be controlled with sensors under the roads (signal remained green for the side with the higher traffic density); in the late 90s work started on the Metro; and public transport got a major push, especially in view of the Commonwealth Games.
The immediate result of these measures was this: it put the fear of the police (if not God) in most violators; removed most bottlenecks (if not ditches) on the road; took private buses (if not accidents) off the roads; and ensured signal-free (if not problem-free) corridors. In other words, it is now possible to do a 25-km stretch on Delhi's roads in less than 40 minutes during non-peak hours. Now compare that to Bangalore's crawl. You will be spared the bout of envy.
Though traffic management and infrastructure may have eased some pressure, Delhi continues to be the most unsafe city in India for pedestrians and motorists. In 2008, more people fell to accidents on the roads (589) than murders (528). Road rage in Delhi is legendary and you are perceived to be a good driver only if you can predict what the driver in front of you is going to do. Moreover, nearly every motorist in Delhi keeps a weapon of sorts handy in the car, just in case.
Isn't it good to be in Bangalore?

Master of Disguise

January 18th, 2011, 11:30 AM

^^ Really is it???

We keep weapon....yeah yeah sure sure....I've seen few bangaloreans here and can understand if the article writer is from the city of mahan bangalore...

wow, It a news for us delhites as well...

gentem

January 18th, 2011, 12:19 PM

http://bengaluruhabba.co.in/2011/events.html

airtel bengaluru habba events

Nrupatunga

January 18th, 2011, 12:33 PM

Akash,

It will be uphill task for BJP to gain majority if assembly is dissolved and elections are conducted.Reason:If recent panchayath elections are any indication then JDS+Congress combine will be getting around 130 odd seats.

There was a sympathy wave last time for BJP and also people had hopes on
BJP that it will do wonders.But Bjp has not met expectations and added to it the scams of yedyurappa,its ministers scams,rape history of its ministers has dented its image quite a bit.

Last time BJP had literally swept Mumbai and central karnataka,but Congress has made a comeback in central karnataka and started looking good in hyderabad karnataka.Congress has equalled to BJP in both Davangere and Bellary where BJP had literally swept the seats completly. JDS has tightened its grip in 4 districts of mandya,Hassan,Tumkur and Ramanagara.More over JDS has started threatning both Congress and BJP in kolar and mysore.In mysore it almost equalled Congress and in kolar JDS came top.Moreover In mysore district bjp has lost veteran like Shankarlingegowda and chances of getting more than 1 seat in Mysore looks dull.Anyways mysore was never strong for BJP.

Totally BJP will not be able to win more than 5 seats in 8 districts like Mysore,hassan,Tumkur,Mandya,Ramanagara,chamarajnagara,kolar,chikkaballapura.

And it has started loosing its grip in shimogga,uttara kannada also.in shimogga only soraba,shikaripura and shimmogga city came to BJP rescue.All the other seats went to Congress,So do not expect BJP to show same performance it showed in last elections.Anyways soraba can never be bjp stronghold.Any understanding of bangarappa and his sons,this seat will go out of bjp any moment.Vokkaligas in bangalore who are majority there(about 40%,they have 70 corporators in bbmp from their community) seems to be distancing slowly from BJP.So looks like 17 seats for BJP cpuld be tough dream.Already Anitha kumaraswamy has announced that she will be contesting in yeshwanthpur against shobha karandlaje.Yeshwantpur has gone completly to JDS even in panchayath elections and in bbmp elections jds has polled more vote than BJP.So looks like BJP will struggle to perform the splendid performance it showed in last elections.

Also its rumoured that many Legislators of BJP have plans to shift to congress and JDS if assembly dissolved will make matters more worse.

So from where will BJP get majority? Even in panchayath elections Congress JDS combined have chances of comming in 18 distrcits if they form an alliance and no operation kamala happens.

So imagine elections held in next 6 months.I think BJP will struggle to get more than 90 seats this time if elections are held.

engineer.akash

January 18th, 2011, 12:52 PM

Nrupatunga,thanks for your points.BJP was mostly touted as being an urban party with no rural vote bank but if you see the recent ZP elections, where rural votes decided the numbers, BJP can only feel more delighted.The reason for BJP not doing so well in Shimoga and Bellary as pointed by you is the recent scams which have surfaced involving legislators of that region.
Another prime reason for BJP remaining stronger is the Lingayat vote bank.Most of the north Karnataka and central karnataka regions along with North east Karnataka have huge Lingayat vote banks,with Mutts backing BJP openly.Congress by installing Dr Parmeshwar is trying to play the dalit card which will not work,Congress + JD(S) getting 130 seats will only remain a dream,BJP now is a force to reckon with and it is not the same BJP it was in 1980's.Things have changed political polarisation will happen with assembly dissolution as you said.But I would like to disgree on the rumour doing rounds that many BJP legislators would join congress and JD(S).If you see the recent ZP elections BJP successfully split JDS() in Gulbarga ZP,lured legislators from the enemy camp in Bellary and capture Madikeri ZP as well,all these only go to show that BJP is still the favourite among the people.

Congress will see lot of infighting in the coming days,don't forget that with siddrahmiah being at the helm of affairs congress will never march forward which sonia gandhi also knows very well,Congress at present lacks tall leader to lead the party.JD(s) less said the better with Revanna being tipped as the CM candidate imagine how many votes JD(s) can garner in urban areas?Siddrahmiah is in two minds to stay in conrgress or join JD(S),with such uncertainty in the opposition camps don't expect them to get 130 seats.

BJP has done commendable job inthe urban areas and for assembly elections urban votes matter a lot than the rural votes which has been proved earlier as well.

I am reiterating BJP has only emerged stronger and it is this very fact that is itching the opposition camp.:cheers:

Nrupatunga

January 18th, 2011, 01:47 PM

Akash,

you got it completly wrong.BJP actually shed its urban party image when it won 110 seats in last assembly elections.Do you think BJP won those seats in 2008 just because of urban votes? Not its wrong.BJP is not considered a urban party nor rural party no more.

And regarding Lingayth Votebase, BJP , i reiterate BJP has swept Mumbai Karnataka and Central Karnataka completly in 2008.Just imagine BJP winning 10 out of 11 seats in Bellary and 5 out of 7 seats in Davangere.It had won all the seats in bagalkot and many districts of Mumbai karnataka.

It had won major number of seats in gulbarga,raichur and bijapur,koppal in hyderabad karnataka.

Inspite of all this BJP was able to win only 110 seats,I repeat 110 seats.

Look what has happened after it. BJP now was in equal strength in both davangere and bellary districts where it swept. In gulbarga and Bijapur Congress came top.

So whats happening!!!!

BJP is getting more stronger in Mumbai karnataka but getting weakened considerably in central and hyderabad karnataka.

offcourse old karnataka except bangalore was never loyal to BJP.

So as per Current political analysis there has been a rise in anti BJP and anti lingaayat lobby in parts of central and hyderabad karnataka.

And JDS has consistently shown its emerging stronger day by day in old mysore region.Proof: it was considered strong only in 3 districtsnamely hassan,mandya and ramanagara.Now it has won tumkur district which is a big district.Remember BJP had won tumkur loksabha constituentcy.

Apart from this, JDS is growing in Mysore district and kolar district. Looks like JDS is going to bag atleast 8-10 seats from Mysore and kolar(undivided) districts.

Also do not forget what happened to Sommanna of vijaynagar in bangalore. He became victim of Caste politics.Previously everyone in that area considered him as good harworking politisian and he use to win convincingly from a vokkaliga dominated district.

Excessive caste politics of Yedyurappa has now made him a lingayat leader and he lost for first time there.Caste polarisation is happening in bangalore albeit small scale.Bangalore is dominated by vokkaligas with more than 12 mlas and 70 bbmp corporators belonging to that community.if bjp looses them,they will not even win more than 8 seats in bangalore next time for sure.

So from where will BJP get majority?Analysis indicates that JDs has weakened in nort karnataka which will help congress.

So even if BJP sweeps Mumbai karnataka and coastal(which is unlikly) how will bjp get 110 seats?

Just wait and see this government will not last for 6 more months and see how many leaders from bjp are going to jump to other parties especially in hyderabad karnataka and central karnataka region.

engineer.akash

January 18th, 2011, 02:10 PM

Well I agree that BJP's image has taken a beating with scams surfacing.Your claim that JD(S) will gain in Mysore region is not right,rural votes obviously go to JD(S) because farmers are falling prey to the brainwashing tactics of JD(S) even today.They did it in past and they will continue to do so in future,I am not counting those rural votes anyways.

Mysore-Hassan-Bangalore-Kolar has always been JD(S)'s mine field no arguments on that.BJP has not lost Central karnataka hold fully, yes there might be slips here and there.North Karnataka and coastal Karnataka(barring a few places in Karwar/Uttar Kannada) BJP has gained complete control you may include Madikeri as well which was a JD(S)-congress strong hold.

Belgaum-Hubli-Dharwad-Bagalkot-Haveri-Gadag belt is BJP's strongest belt,Bellary might have slipped for a while out of BJP's hands but will soon get gripped.

Let us see the ZP election results:

2005 2010(30 seats)

Congress 22 4
JD(s) 3-5 4
BJP 1 12

Hung verdict 10

After Operation Kamala Bellary,Gulbarga,few more districts

Just see the numbers---BJP has emerged a clear winner

gentem

January 18th, 2011, 02:57 PM

Nrupatunga

January 18th, 2011, 04:53 PM

vokkaliga r ashok is virtually made dy cm with home and transport ministry. gulbarga mla seat was lost due to arrogance and nothing else. but i agree bjp getting majority is very difficult if polls held now.

but bjp will likely win bye election as it is already in power and money power and because disqualified mlas are bjp seats.

R Ashok Could not prevent a minister from loosing in by elections.Also even in 16 by elections held in karnataka after 2008 Bjp has won 8,JDS has won 6 and ocngress 2 seats.

And check where the constituentcies where bjp lost,apart from gulbarga south none of them had lingayaths as majority.

And check the 16 seats where By-elections will happen.

1) Nelamangala - BJP had won here in 2008.MLA nagraj won for first time.See the panchayath election results - all seats totally swept by JDS. I will Predict a easy JDS win here due to influx of strong local leaders to JDS.

2) Devdurga - Shivanagaouda nayak - PAnchayath elections - JDS clean sweeped all six seats.

3) Sagara - Beluru gopalakrishna - Kaghodu thimappa and Gopalkrishna has came together and bangarappa will definatly support Gopalkrishna here.Panchayath election results all seats seeeped by Congress

4) Chennapattana - JDS stronghold. Panchayath elections - all seats sweeped by JDS.

5) Chamaraja - Shankarlingegowdas bastion.This Vokkaliga dominated Constituentcy always supported him. I expect the same except the change in party.

6) Kollegala - Last time Vote split happened between BSP and congress which led to victory of BJP.but this time JDS will support Congress which will take Congress to Victory here.

7) KGF - Sampangi last time had won surprisingly which was a bastion of tamils like rajendran and bhaktha vatsalam.He had won by a very thin margin.Now he is not with BJP and this time BJP surely will not win this seat.But BJP needs to pray that Rajendran of RPI will win and support BJP.I think BJP will also support Rajendran here. JDS will take this seat inturn supporting Congress in bangarpete.Bhakthavatsalam of JDS has been ex-mla here.So need to watch out here.Panchayath results though not favouravle to BJP,but majority of votes here come from KGF city.

8) Bangarpete - Inspite of narsimswamy jumping to BJP BJP could share equal no of seats along with Congress.And BJP contestant ( a dead opponent of Narayanswamy is still in BJP) He is almost sure to stand on congress seat along with support of JDS.JDS support especially Srinivas gowdas support is crucial here.But this is a seat which BJP has brighter chance.

9) Karwar - Congress has proved how strong it is in Karwar. The only way BJP can win here is to give seat o Anand asnotikar. I think BJP will do that.if not there is no way BJP is going to win this seat.

Seats where BJP has good chances of winning(will come up with analysis of these seats later)

Indi

Arabhavi

Kagwada

engineer.akash

January 18th, 2011, 05:23 PM

R Ashok Could not prevent a minister from loosing in by elections.Also even in 16 by elections held in karnataka after 2008 Bjp has won 8,JDS has won 6 and ocngress 2 seats.

And check where the constituentcies where bjp lost,apart from gulbarga south none of them had lingayaths as majority.

And check the 16 seats where By-elections will happen.

1) Nelamangala - BJP had won here in 2008.MLA nagraj won for first time.See the panchayath election results - all seats totally swept by JDS. I will Predict a easy JDS win here due to influx of strong local leaders to JDS.

2) Devdurga - Shivanagaouda nayak - PAnchayath elections - JDS clean sweeped all six seats.

3) Sagara - Beluru gopalakrishna - Kaghodu thimappa and Gopalkrishna has came together and bangarappa will definatly support Gopalkrishna here.Panchayath election results all seats seeeped by Congress

4) Chennapattana - JDS stronghold. Panchayath elections - all seats sweeped by JDS.

5) Chamaraja - Shankarlingegowdas bastion.This Vokkaliga dominated Constituentcy always supported him. I expect the same except the change in party.

6) Kollegala - Last time Vote split happened between BSP and congress which led to victory of BJP.but this time JDS will support Congress which will take Congress to Victory here.

7) KGF - Sampangi last time had won surprisingly which was a bastion of tamils like rajendran and bhaktha vatsalam.He had won by a very thin margin.Now he is not with BJP and this time BJP surely will not win this seat.But BJP needs to pray that Rajendran of RPI will win and support BJP.I think BJP will also support Rajendran here. JDS will take this seat inturn supporting Congress in bangarpete.Bhakthavatsalam of JDS has been ex-mla here.So need to watch out here.Panchayath results though not favouravle to BJP,but majority of votes here come from KGF city.

8) Bangarpete - Inspite of narsimswamy jumping to BJP BJP could share equal no of seats along with Congress.And BJP contestant ( a dead opponent of Narayanswamy is still in BJP) He is almost sure to stand on congress seat along with support of JDS.JDS support especially Srinivas gowdas support is crucial here.But this is a seat which BJP has brighter chance.

9) Karwar - Congress has proved how strong it is in Karwar. The only way BJP can win here is to give seat o Anand asnotikar. I think BJP will do that.if not there is no way BJP is going to win this seat.

Seats where BJP has good chances of winning(will come up with analysis of these seats later)

Indi

Arabhavi

Kagwada

Dude we cannot pick each and every constituency and analyse things this way.Many people did bet high on BJP surely faring bad in ZP elections and they were proved wrong, BJP silenced everybody in the opposition camp with their performance.ZP elections are to be seen as an indicator of people's mood and it shows that things for BJP are moving well.

Why aren't you accepting the results ZP as an indicator of people's mood?

You see BJP always performs well in Urban areas and I can tell that with full confidence, it was the rural areas where the party needed touch up.

Politics is always in liquid state the above analysis what you have done may be just one among the various combinations.There is nothing like BJP stands only for lingayats,you will find many BJP senior leaders like Sadanand Gowda,R Ashoka who are gowdas,all that matters is charisma of the leaders and that works in elections also caste,money play as major ingredients for success.

Guv studying prosecution plea against Yeddyurappa (http://www.deccanherald.com/content/129610/guv-studying-prosecution-plea-against.html)
Bangalore, Jan 15, DHNS

Politicos in the State are eagerly waiting to see how Governor H R Bhardwaj will treat the request by two Karnataka High Court advocates to launch prosecution proceedings against Chief Minister B S Yeddyurappa and Home Minister R Ashok over the alleged illegal land denotification and allotment scam.

According to sources, Bharadwaj is studying the matter in great detail and will come out with a decision on it soon. The governor has also recently got about 20 important files pertaining to the scam from the State Urban Development Department.He had, in a recent letter, asked the government to provide all documents related to the scam before January 20.

The chief minister has been facing allegations of illegal denotification of large extent of Bangalore Development Authority (BDA) land. Similarly, he has been charged with illegal allotment of G category BDA sites to his kin. Besides the chief minister, his cabinet colleague Ashok is also facing land denotification charges.

Yeddyurappa was on the verge of losing his seat a few weeks ago because of the scam, but he managed to survive after the BJP high command stood by him.The governor would have to cite reasons for both rejecting the permission or granting it, sources said. If the permission is granted, the advocates can file criminal cases in a trial court.

“As per section 197 of the Criminal Procedure Code (CrPC), permission of the competent authority is necessary to prosecute a public servant. In this case, the governor is the competent authority,” former advocate general B V Acharya pointed out.

Embarrassment
Though Chief Minister B S Yeddyurappa and Ashok will have all chances to defend the case in the court, the governor’s grant of permission will be a severe embarrassment to his government. Moreover, there are chances of his detractors within the party again raising a banner of revolt and demanding his ouster.

Sources said the governor’s move in this regard provoked the BJP to launch a renewed attack on Bhardwaj.The BJP members of Parliament have decided to soon meet President Paratibha Patil and demand the recall of the governor.

Governor resorting to dirty tactics again.He is a congress agent no doubt.

@Nrupatunga

Dude this being a infra -skyscraper forum let us keep politics to the minimal :) I appreciate your indepth knowledge about the political happenings in our state.

gentem

January 19th, 2011, 05:11 AM

Clubs, hotels, bars will have fresh tap beer
TNN, Jan 19, 2011, 06.07am IST
BANGALORE: Suit your taste buds __ flat, frothy or bitter. Pubs, clubs, bars and hotels in urban Karnataka will soon churn out fresh beer flavoured to your choice.

The concept of microbreweries prevalent in several foreign nations and in some Indian states like Maharashtra, Kerala and Haryana, is slowly making inroads into Karnataka. Here, customers can enjoy fresh tap beer that's brewed in front of them across the counter.

The state government is granting permission to set up microbreweries at bars, clubs and hotels and has amended the Excise Act to facilitate it. Bars and clubs that have minimum space of 10,000 sqft, and hotels with a minimum of 100 rooms will be eligible to set up microbreweries.

Excise minister Renukacharya on Tuesday said this will also boost tourism and attract foreign tourists to the state.

Annually, around 1.5 lakh cases of beer are sold in Karnataka. Now, microbreweries are expected to boost sale in Bangalore, the pub city, which has more than 150 pub licences. The minister said 50 people have already shown interest in setting up these breweries.

The state is imposing licence fee of Rs 2.5 lakh and duty of Rs 5 per litre, besides additional excise duty of Rs 12.50 per litre of beer manufactured at microbreweries.

Also, the licencee should get the brewed beer tested by a chemist before starting the service for customers. Licencees will not be allowed to brew more than 1,000 litres a day and should sell the beer at the place of brewing.

Read more: Clubs, hotels, bars will have fresh tap beer - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bangalore/Clubs-hotels-bars-will-have-fresh-tap-beer/articleshow/7315198.cms#ixzz1BS0rj8Uo

Saw on tv yesterday, minister was telling this fresh beer thing is common in western countries and karnataka also equally modern state :lol: navu yenu kammi illa. they prepare fresh beer in a glass chamber which the customer can see through..

One minister doing good job :applause:

Nrupatunga

January 19th, 2011, 06:59 AM

Nrupatunga

January 19th, 2011, 07:02 AM

Governor resorting to dirty tactics again.He is a congress agent no doubt.

Tic for Tat: This dirty government deserves such dirty governors.
Thank god BJP cant do any operation kamala with Governor.

gentem

January 19th, 2011, 07:33 AM

Akash,

I am a political Analyst and I know Zp results quite well. Infact i have analysed my complete analysis on Zp results and other factors.

In ZP Results Congress + JDS combine has scored 18 Zp seats compared to 12 by BJP.Yes operation Kamala will change equations here.But anyways Cong + JDs alliance is always detrimental for BJP.

Anyways I can only put forward my analysis.Accepting or rejecting it is left to you.

that is wrong to say jds+cong equal to 18 as it was not pre-poll alliance. things would have gone completely differently if pre poll alliance was in place. so cong+jds is 8 and bjp 12 in zp elections.

i dont think jds and cong can go for pre-poll alliance in bye-elections too, it wont suit politically. akash is right no point doing seat by seat analysis, any candidate of 3 parties can score a surprise win. my guess bjp will hang on to power even after bye-elections.

naveen_blr

January 19th, 2011, 07:46 AM

Yeddy should empower KRS as a political party similar to the lines of MNS (baby of Congi brains) to divide the votes in the Mysore Area

Nrupatunga

January 19th, 2011, 09:38 AM

that is wrong to say jds+cong equal to 18 as it was not pre-poll alliance. things would have gone completely differently if pre poll alliance was in place. so cong+jds is 8 and bjp 12 in zp elections.

i dont think jds and cong can go for pre-poll alliance in bye-elections too, it wont suit politically. akash is right no point doing seat by seat analysis, any candidate of 3 parties can score a surprise win. my guess bjp will hang on to power even after bye-elections.

Truth is Last time Siddaramiah was a thorn for post poll alliance.Next time this wont be a problem as Siddhu has improved his relations with JDS.

Already Congress and JDS have agreed for Post poll alliance in Zp polls.So same adjustment in Next assembly election will not that difficult.

BTW, Pre-poll alliance is already on the cards.But i doubt that will happen because there are enough hints in political circle that Assembly will be dissolved before that.

Kumaraswamy has already roped 10 more ministers to resign this time,but BJP has given hints that it can suspend 15 MLA's in name of misconduct.So he is in process of gathering more number of mlas this time.

And do not be surprised to Kumaraswamy and Janaradhan reddy side by side this time.They are now in good terms which not many common people know.

The political drama will enact once again shortly.lets wait and watch if they will suceed in giving final blow for yeddy or not?

engineer.akash

January 19th, 2011, 10:02 AM

^^FYI now Reddys are bleeding with CBI cutting deep into their flesh,every BJP legislator now is staying away from these mining barons.Yeddurappa cannot be ousted so easily, man common he has 35 years+ political experience who is kumarswamy in front of him.Yeddi has survived so many threats only because of his political experience,he even convinced central BJP leadership on the scam issue.He is smart don't undermine his political clout,he made sure that mutts support him as the CM candidate for the next assembly elections.

Kumarswamy will not become the CM,he is eyeing something big at the center, if at all congress-JD(s) enter into pre poll alliance during assembly elections.Say If they come to power then Siddarhmiah would be the CM and Revanna as Dy CM,which I am sure of that siddrahmiah will leave no stone unturned to jump on CM's gaddi with JD(s) bargainiing hard to get Dy CM's post.The above thing happening is far from reality.Congressmen are not happy with siddrahmiah as the part head as they still consider him as an outsider.So there the infighting in congress will start and most of the lingayat leaders in congress are waiting to join BJP after the congress high command appointed Parmeshwar as KPCC head,while not heeeding to the congress lingayat leaders demands.

As of now there is no threat to the govt given that speaker will suspend 15 opposition mlas that should work in favour of the governemtn.BJP central leadership has taken legal advice in this matter and many legal experts do acknowledge that such a move is legal in all aspects.

Reddys now they have no other option but to mend their ways with Yeddi and go ahead else if congress+jd(S) combine comes to power then that would be a check mate for the reddys with CBI hammer falling on them more intensely.So they are smart enough not to topple this government.

gentem

January 19th, 2011, 10:32 AM

Truth is Last time Siddaramiah was a thorn for post poll alliance.Next time this wont be a problem as Siddhu has improved his relations with JDS.

Already Congress and JDS have agreed for Post poll alliance in Zp polls.So same adjustment in Next assembly election will not that difficult.

BTW, Pre-poll alliance is already on the cards.But i doubt that will happen because there are enough hints in political circle that Assembly will be dissolved before that.

Kumaraswamy has already roped 10 more ministers to resign this time,but BJP has given hints that it can suspend 15 MLA's in name of misconduct.So he is in process of gathering more number of mlas this time.

And do not be surprised to Kumaraswamy and Janaradhan reddy side by side this time.They are now in good terms which not many common people know.

The political drama will enact once again shortly.lets wait and watch if they will suceed in giving final blow for yeddy or not?
u missed arithmetics. post poll alliance after bye-elections jds cong alliance cant get majority if bjp takes at least 6 of that 11 seats. this bye-election is similar to new full election as bjp now has 106-105 majority. this is considering 5 independents' disqualification will be quashed by courts, otherwise it is much easier for bjp to retain power.

whoever wins majority in these 11 seats bye-election will come to power. it is either bjp or jds+cong postpoll or prepoll alliance. anything can happen :)

that suspension of mlas for more than 3 months is undemocratic, and karnataka people dont allow that.

avinash2060

January 19th, 2011, 10:44 AM

Truth is Last time Siddaramiah was a thorn for post poll alliance.Next time this wont be a problem as Siddhu has improved his relations with JDS.

Already Congress and JDS have agreed for Post poll alliance in Zp polls.So same adjustment in Next assembly election will not that difficult.

BTW, Pre-poll alliance is already on the cards.But i doubt that will happen because there are enough hints in political circle that Assembly will be dissolved before that.

Kumaraswamy has already roped 10 more ministers to resign this time,but BJP has given hints that it can suspend 15 MLA's in name of misconduct.So he is in process of gathering more number of mlas this time.

And do not be surprised to Kumaraswamy and Janaradhan reddy side by side this time.They are now in good terms which not many common people know.

The political drama will enact once again shortly.lets wait and watch if they will suceed in giving final blow for yeddy or not?

You are not a Political Analyst but a JD-S Worker ,Siddaramiah has no hold apart from mysore and chamrajnagar ,Reddy will be in BJP until Sushma Swaraj is in BJP, Many of Congress Legislators who had left JD-S during 2008 polls Would always oppose tie with JD-S if that happens they would join BJP ,Gowda and his sons have always made sure that those who had deserted them never succeed,one more stuff do u know gowda will let siddaramiah to be CM ,then he will enact one more drama to make sure HDK or Revanna would be CM,Congress + JD-S ==More bad news for Congress,BJP which was zero in hasan and ramnagar now is the principal opposition in this places ,so if congress ties with JD-S it will loose more ground ,and gowda u never trust him he is a Chameleon ,after 2013 polls he might tie up with BJP also all he is after is power and money

Nrupatunga

January 19th, 2011, 11:54 AM

gentem

January 19th, 2011, 12:22 PM

^^ moral strength matters? :bash: ur comments are becoming more and more desperate

aadisi nodu beelisi nodu uruli hogadu :banana2: bjp govt 5 varsha heege iruvudu

avinash2060

January 19th, 2011, 12:25 PM

Akash,

Yeddy with 35 years experience is literally struggling as CM.A Cm who cries much fatster than a baby cant be termed as a great CM.firstly he had to bow before reddy's with compromise formula of dropping Shobha karnadlaje and take jagadish shettar into cabinet.Recently he had to take support of Mutt heads to support him.

BJP had a strength of 110 after elections.Look now even after doing operation Kamala its strength has reduced to 106 including speaker.Actually its not numerical strength but moral strength which matters for any party.Has BJP retained it?8 ministers of it have resigned for various reasons like scams and rapes etc etc..

Comming to Lingayat leaders going to BJP,tell me how many lingayat leaders are actually there in Congress? Out of the total 27-28 seats won by congress in north karnataka,tell me how many are lingayats? You mean to say Shamanoor shivashankrappa who is dead rival of siddesh will go to BJP? Or HS mahadev prasad a arch follower of Siddaramaiah or Ishwar Khandre whos arch rival Prakash Khandre is in Congress?See There are many places where Cong Lingayat leaders are figting against BJP lingayat leders.So even if one comes in other will go out becase seat will be denied for him in Assembly elections.

Like i said BJP can only loose further in Mumbai and central karnataka because it swept almost all of the seats in last assembly election. Old Mysore has not allowed BJP to be a major player at all expect in Bangalore and some parts of tumkur.

I only speculated that reddies might join HDK.But anyways being in political circles i can tell you with confirmation that new set of politcal drama will unfold in comming days.It will just begin with Governor allowing for Judicial enquiry against chiefminister.

Later you will see different action.Just wait and see.
After Jagan Quitting Congress ,Reddy will @ least in next 2 yrs will not walk out of BJP,if they do it's suicidal ,what is HDK btw he is Poweless in the state and also at the center why would somebody go to him ,He and his father can never win more than 35 seats in their life ,BJP if need be can shock congress with more operation lotus ,with regard to jd-s there might be 2-3 who might switch sides ,as rest are from hassan mysore or mandya belt ,more than religion it;s money which wins elections ,BJP has enough money to win as many by-polls as they want

engineer.akash

January 19th, 2011, 12:54 PM

Akash,

Yeddy with 35 years experience is literally struggling as CM.A Cm who cries much fatster than a baby cant be termed as a great CM.firstly he had to bow before reddy's with compromise formula of dropping Shobha karnadlaje and take jagadish shettar into cabinet.Recently he had to take support of Mutt heads to support him.

BJP had a strength of 110 after elections.Look now even after doing operation Kamala its strength has reduced to 106 including speaker.Actually its not numerical strength but moral strength which matters for any party.Has BJP retained it?8 ministers of it have resigned for various reasons like scams and rapes etc etc..

Comming to Lingayat leaders going to BJP,tell me how many lingayat leaders are actually there in Congress? Out of the total 27-28 seats won by congress in north karnataka,tell me how many are lingayats? You mean to say Shamanoor shivashankrappa who is dead rival of siddesh will go to BJP? Or HS mahadev prasad a arch follower of Siddaramaiah or Ishwar Khandre whos arch rival Prakash Khandre is in Congress?See There are many places where Cong Lingayat leaders are figting against BJP lingayat leders.So even if one comes in other will go out becase seat will be denied for him in Assembly elections.

Like i said BJP can only loose further in Mumbai and central karnataka because it swept almost all of the seats in last assembly election. Old Mysore has not allowed BJP to be a major player at all expect in Bangalore and some parts of tumkur.

I only speculated that reddies might join HDK.But anyways being in political circles i can tell you with confirmation that new set of politcal drama will unfold in comming days.It will just begin with Governor allowing for Judicial enquiry against chiefminister.

Later you will see different action.Just wait and see.

Let that congress chela Gov bhardwaj do whatever he wants ,BJP is a party which people prefer and that has shown in the recent ZP elections.It would be suicidal for governor to act against Karnataka CM which would set a bad precedent in Karnataka politics.Governor must be reminded of his duties and not indulge in dislodging an elected government.Governor has literally turned raj bhavan into Congress den,BJP central leadership is backing Yeddurappa to the fullest so no Reddy can even think of raising a banner of revolt again.As Avinash said it would be of no interest to reddys to walk out of the govt or topple the present government,If the power baton goes to Congress+jd(S), within minutes reddys will be issued non bailable warrant and CBI will knock at their doors.Also as long os sushma swaraj is in BJP reddys will remain in BJP.No arguments on that.

JD(S) is just powerful in Mysore,Mandya,Bangalore,Hassan regions elsewhere it has almost no ffotprints,wiped off completely in coastal karnataka(barring UK).North west Karnataka politics I have been a keen observer of, and I can tell you no way BJP has lost control there just see the ZP elections.

Congress has absolutely no leaders to lead the party tell me Siddrahmiah can ever match Yeddi or suresh Kumar of BJP?tell me if Revanna can ever match any of BJP senior leaders?Answer is No.They know their political career is finished JD(s) will not get more 20 seats.Congress is doomed in Karnataka so is JD(s).

Nrupatunga

January 19th, 2011, 03:06 PM

^^ moral strength matters? :bash: ur comments are becoming more and more desperate

aadisi nodu beelisi nodu uruli hogadu :banana2: bjp govt 5 varsha heege iruvudu

Yes i stick to my point,its moral strength which will have long lasting effect.BJP is spoling all its goodwill which it had accumulated over years due to effort put by thousands of RSS followers and others who dreamt of BJP being a party with difference.I personally knew several people who would put thousands of ruppes on the party without even expecting any results.

Vajpayee did not resort to Operation kamala when he lost by one vote.People did select him back.Even when it lost in 2004 BJP.

Its the votes gained on discipline and Ideologies which will remain for long term than votes gained on Caste.

Thats why i say BJP is heading towards disaster in state. History shows that Lingayaths have backed away from Congress when its leaders were hurt.Be it veerendra patil or Nijalingappa. BJP will meet the same fate if yeddy is removed and any other caste leader is restored in his place.

And comming to the point of members starting personal comments,less said about them is better.Its no point in arguing with people who stoop to level of personal abuses as soon as they have no points to speak.

Rather than speaking on personal behaviorism please speak to the point.I have not fabricated any of the points here.

I am a political analyst with my own inclination to a particular party,yet i have the statistics on back of my hand.

Nrupatunga

January 19th, 2011, 03:15 PM

JD(S) is just powerful in Mysore,Mandya,Bangalore,Hassan regions elsewhere it has almost no ffotprints,wiped off completely in coastal karnataka(barring UK).North west Karnataka politics I have been a keen observer of, and I can tell you no way BJP has lost control there just see the ZP elections.

Congress has absolutely no leaders to lead the party tell me Siddrahmiah can ever match Yeddi or suresh Kumar of BJP?tell me if Revanna can ever match any of BJP senior leaders?Answer is No.They know their political career is finished JD(s) will not get more 20 seats.Congress is doomed in Karnataka so is JD(s).

Firstly you are completly wrong.JDS does have a presence in Uttara Kanada district.It has two mlas in uttara kannada district.And congress is Quite strong in Uttara Kannada district.Even in coastal district both BJP and Congress shares 4 mlas each.Infact Urban votes in coastal region actually favour Congress due to huge population of Minorities.

Just check Karnataka election results of 2008 and you will come to know this.
Also just check Karsec.gov.i n website to see the results of ZP. And comment to me after seeing that.

And if you want to see karnataka election results ,just check karnatakaelections.co.i n website. perhaps after seeing that you will be able to analyse political situation better.

gentem

January 19th, 2011, 03:22 PM

^^ do you have any idea when bye elections will come? that is after supreme court and high court verdict. bjp has passed 15 bills in that so called washed out last assembly session, which governor will have to sign within 14 days whatever he barks.

and yea, this year's state budget by yeddy will pass easily, which gov cant even send back.

engineer.akash

January 19th, 2011, 05:15 PM

Firstly you are completly wrong.JDS does have a presence in Uttara Kanada district.It has two mlas in uttara kannada district.And congress is Quite strong in Uttara Kannada district.Even in coastal district both BJP and Congress shares 4 mlas each.Infact Urban votes in coastal region actually favour Congress due to huge population of Minorities.

Just check Karnataka election results of 2008 and you will come to know this.
Also just check Karsec.gov.i n website to see the results of ZP. And comment to me after seeing that.

And if you want to see karnataka election results ,just check karnatakaelections.co.i n website. perhaps after seeing that you will be able to analyse political situation better.

Agreed that I have no much idea about the actual numbers,before predicting what likely would be the political scenario I want to know why aren't you buying the reasoning that recently held elections for zilla panchayats as an indicator of people's mood?Don't you agree that with 12 clear majority abd 10 hung verdicts(Anything is possible here) BJP has indeed fared well.

gentem

January 19th, 2011, 05:43 PM

^^ obviously zp seats by bjp are at all time high, that is by margin. that makes good foundation for mla elections.

engineer.akash

January 19th, 2011, 06:26 PM

^^ obviously zp seats by bjp are at all time high, that is by margin. that makes good foundation for mla elections.

Exactly that is what I am trying to say.Just see the development activities going on in Bellary and Shimoga regions I am specifically mentioning these two regions because nrupatunga claims BJP has lost control in these two regions.Yes I agree there were few slips but those were due to rural votes.Just come and see Shimoga and Bellary cities the kind of development happening in the urban areas are splendid.I can say that bellary has better roads than Mysore thanks to reddys.Same with Shimoga lots of road works being undertaken-most of them getting concreted.Urban junta will surely vote for BJP no doubt.Bellary muncipal elections : BJP clean sweep.
Mangalore's MP Naveen kateel is a first timer who beat even Janardhan Poojary of congress a well known MP from that region so did Marget Alva lose ground to BJP.Udupi take it clean sweep by BJP.

naveen_blr

January 20th, 2011, 04:19 AM

Development is very true....if ther are elections now State would lag by 5 years.
Many projects would get stalled example - DLF -Bidadi Township
North Karnataka i am thrilled to hear about development although most are still in progress and on paper -
Gulburga -Airport /Roads/Cement Industry
Yadgir - Textile /
Bijapur - Power/Textile/Airport
Bagalkot - Airport
Raichur - Air Strip

Add a few more .

avinash2060

January 20th, 2011, 05:14 AM

Nrupatunga

January 20th, 2011, 06:52 AM

Till May 2012 BSY Government is safe ,they will go in for operation lotus if need be ,BJP will never give up it's only and first government in south india

Guys so much so for devlopment,Name one state highway intiated and developed under BJP's yedyurappa government which is quite impressive in quality?

We all know best state highways of state are

1) Belur to Mysore
2) Hiriyur to bellary and upto bidar
3) bangalore mysore road
4) Mysore kushalnagara

All these State highways were developed under either Sm krishna or during HDK/Dharamsing government.

Name one such state highway intiated and devloped under Yedyurappa?We all know what happened to 10,000 Kms toll road devlopment plan.

Leave that Power comes next in priority.Has state Government added 1 Mega watt to Power generation.All we hear is that Government has signed MOU with Chattisgarh etc etc? From past 3 years this project has not fruitified at all.

Less said about Ports.

Infrastructure means Roads,Power,Ports - None of these have seen considerable progress.

Lets take discussion point by point.

Nrupatunga

January 20th, 2011, 07:06 AM

Agreed that I have no much idea about the actual numbers,before predicting what likely would be the political scenario I want to know why aren't you buying the reasoning that recently held elections for zilla panchayats as an indicator of people's mood?Don't you agree that with 12 clear majority abd 10 hung verdicts(Anything is possible here) BJP has indeed fared well.

Hung here means that if CONG + JDS ally it will go them.This is what i am trying to say.since BJp cannot ally with either of parties now,its left alone.

In all hung panchayaths Cong+ JDS alliance is enough to form ruling expect for Bellary and Bangalore rural where it will be lottery to decide.

Being educated i am surprised to see the support for Operation kamala by you guys.

Anyways they have such a co-operative governor.

gentem

January 20th, 2011, 07:06 AM

^^ for power varahi came. kaiga 2nd plant came. raichur extra came. and bought extra power from central grid from state exchequer, which others used to divert funds to random things. power cut visibly reduced despite ever increasing demand, and free supply to farmers :ohno:

national highways are in pathetic condition. state highways maintained well by bjp. no need to initiate new state highway, save greenery :bash:

perticularly bangalore infrastructure and public transport improved by leaps and bounds in yeddy time. period. 2500 crore already released to metro project.

operation kamala is very genuine that is resignation, but voting against party symbol by which mlas elected is immoral and illegal. had those disqualified bjp mlas resigned instead of trying to vote against symbol in assembly, i would have REALLY appreciated hdk.

Nrupatunga

January 20th, 2011, 08:55 AM

operation kamala is very genuine that is resignation, but voting against party symbol by which mlas elected is immoral and illegal. had those disqualified bjp mlas resigned instead of trying to vote against symbol in assembly, i would have REALLY appreciated hdk.

Operation kamala in panchayat elections was genuine?What was the necessity to do operation kamala in panchayat elections?

Lokadalli ellaru kallare antha heLi darode maDokke agutta...Prior to 2008 BJP had a name of different party.Now nobody even its ardent followers agree that it has become no different than Congress except that it does not involve in minority appeasment.In corruption both BJP and Congress now stand in same position.

I will comment on rest of things later.

nandan_ks

January 20th, 2011, 10:45 AM

gentem

January 20th, 2011, 10:50 AM

Operation kamala in panchayat elections was genuine?What was the necessity to do operation kamala in panchayat elections?

Lokadalli ellaru kallare antha heLi darode maDokke agutta...Prior to 2008 BJP had a name of different party.Now nobody even its ardent followers agree that it has become no different than Congress except that it does not involve in minority appeasment.In corruption both BJP and Congress now stand in same position.

I will comment on rest of things later.

resigning from seat and re-election and dividing a party by a faction more than 1/3 is allowed under anti-defection law, be it panchayat or parliament. so it is very much legal, and if it is immoral then change law but dont blame people for doing legal things.

Better we take this discussion to "karnataka discussion" thread http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1195903&page=10 as this is related more to karnataka than bangalore. You can crossquote this comment in that thread. If the mod locks this thread it will be long time before it is unlocked :ohno:

aka1055

January 20th, 2011, 01:45 PM

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aka1055

January 20th, 2011, 01:46 PM

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SO sad 2 see so many tress loss

engineer.akash

January 20th, 2011, 02:12 PM

Yeldaru Nodlae Baeku idhu

Most Interesting of all

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Note:Interview in Kannada :)

nandan_ks

January 20th, 2011, 02:14 PM

they have planted many saplings on that stretch and they are well taken care of. In another 4-5 years, it'll be back to the Green Glory.

I have some pics of this road, will post them some time later.

SBC-YPR

January 20th, 2011, 05:40 PM

you do realise that the price of food and other goods also rise?

people will shift to cng

How will food prices rise? AFAIK petrol isn't used in HTV or other vehicles which transport food and other goods.

Shifting to CNG is better for the environment - it's less polluting (remember Delhi?) Also, CNG isn't subsidised, so no burden on fuel companies either.

gentem

January 21st, 2011, 06:59 AM

Irrigation pumpsets guzzle 40% power
Manu Aiyappa, TNN, Jan 21, 2011, 03.41am IST
BANGALORE: Irrigation pumpsets (IP sets) in the state suck over 50% of fresh water resources and consume around 40% of the electricity generated.

This trend is shaking up the power sector like never before. Bescom, the power distribution utility catering to Bangalore, has been the worst hit as around 45,478 pumps are under its jurisdiction.

Of the 18.3 lakh IP sets in the state, there are about 1.3 lakh illegal pump sets that consume about 5 million units which, if curbed, are sufficient to ensure round-the-clock power in Bangalore city this summer.

Added to this, the government's spending of over Rs 3,000 crore a year as power subsidy encourages farmers to pump out water untrammelled resulting in plummeting of groundwater levels by 3 to 20 feet.

Considering the annual burden on the state exchequer and the environmental impact, the state government is gearing up to conduct power auditing in the state to check how much electricity is being used by all sections of people in the state.

Explaining the need for such an audit, energy minister Shobha Karandlaje said: "Without the power audit, it is impossible to know how much power is being used for the IP sets, houses, industries, streetlights and in other sectors.'' The government is now pondering over Gujarat and Tamil Nadu models to check guzzling of power by IP sets. Earlier in Gujarat most villages were connected by a single electricity feeder for households as well as agricultural pumps. Illegal connections and unfettered water pumping in rural Gujarat often led to grid disturbances, large-scale transformer failures and poor voltage stability. Consequently, entire village clusters suffered long power failures.

But things changed after Gujarat launched Jyoti Gram Yojana (JGV) bifurcating rural loads into two separate feeders; one provides 24 hours continuous three-phase supply to households; the other, the agriculture feeder, provides a minimum eight-hour supply for irrigation pumps. All transformers on JGY feeders are now metered and load-shedding is down by about 80% in the state.

In Tamil Nadu, the government decided to foot the bill of the small and marginal farmers to replace their power-guzzling pumpsets with energy-efficient ones. The results were all there to see: power consumption reduced by 3 million units.

IP SETS AND CONSUMPTION

JURISDICTION............LEGAL IP SETS.......ILLEGAL IP SETS

Bescom........................6,13,203..................45,478
Mescom.......................2,02,095..................11,221
Chescom......................2,28,968..................38,005
Hescom.......................5,00,620..................30,599
Gescom........................2,70,670.................. ---

Read more: Irrigation pumpsets guzzle 40% power - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bangalore/Irrigation-pumpsets-guzzle-40-power/articleshow/7330138.cms#ixzz1Be90c8Et

only bsy policy i repent is free power to irrigation pump sets :ohno: they should charge at least 50 paisa per unit. it was promised in elections so it will stay for 5 years :(

raghumr72@gmail.com

January 21st, 2011, 07:46 AM

Dear Akash,

Can you share this on FB or send it to me by e-mail :banana:

raghu

nandan_ks

January 21st, 2011, 05:40 PM

Protests have started against 'permission given by the Governor to prosecute the CM'

engineer.akash

January 21st, 2011, 05:48 PM

Protests have started against 'permission given by the Governor to prosecute the CM'

Please call for Karnataka bandh

I will support it.It will only help BJP in gaining more support useless governor

think-tank

January 21st, 2011, 05:53 PM

Please call for Karnataka bandh

I will support it.It will only help BJP in gaining more support useless governor

You can see the double game here. Congress refuses to release the names of secret account holders because it is rumored that a former prime minister stashed billions of dollars in his son's account. On the other hand they gave a go-ahead for yedyurappa's prosecution....really sick bunch of backstabbing pricks.

engineer.akash

January 21st, 2011, 05:58 PM

You can see the double game here. Congress refuses to release the names of secret account holders because it is rumored that a former prime minister stashed billions of dollars in his son's account. On the other hand they gave a go-ahead for yedyurappa's prosecution....really sick bunch of backstabbing pricks.

Just wait and watch they have prosecuted even R Ashoka a strong vokalliga leader,that will irk the vokkaligas as well devegowda will get it on his back tightly.This is a nitro boost for BJP, hope it is a state wide movement soon to throw these congressmen and jd(S) men out of our state along with that chela governor.

I am fully supporting Karnataka Bandh if they are calling one --Make it a state wide movement as soon as possible and expose the congress and jd(S)s men.

engineer.akash

January 21st, 2011, 06:09 PM

Press statement by Karnataka Chief Minister BS Yeddyurappa on prosecution sanction

NDTV Correspondent, Updated: January 21, 2011 21:49 IST

Bangalore: After Karnataka Governor HR Bhardwaj sanctioned prosecution of Chief Minister BS Yeddyurappa on Friday, Mr. Yeddyurappa issued a press statement.

It says:

* It is unfortunate that the Governor has taken the decision to accord sanction for prosecution, even before any preliminary enquiry or any opportunity to me in this case on a private individuals complaint.

* This is highly politically motivated and unconstitutional.

* The Governor is carrying his political agenda with his Office.

* I have neither seen a copy of sanction order nor the complaint petition filed by some advocates seeking permission to prosecute.

* I have only seen the news in media like any of you.

* The Governor, being a constitutional head of the State, has acted in an arbitrary and partisan manner giving a go by to principles of natural justice.

* He has not sought any opinion from the Council of Ministers or the Government on the complaint petition.

* From the beginning the Governor has been behaving in a biased manner as agent of Congress and JDS.

* This is nothing but Broad Day light murder of democracy and justice.

* What the opposition parties could not achieve directly through the mandate of the people has been achieved by them through the office of the Governor and Raj Bhavan.

* I leave it to the people to decide what is right and what is wrong.

* The people of Karnataka will see through the evil designs of those who are upset with the progress and development achieved by me in the last two and half years.

* There is no instance in judicial history of any arbitrary decision like this without recourse to an enquiry.

* I have full faith in the judicial system of this country and I will come out clean.

engineer.akash

January 21st, 2011, 06:36 PM

Karnataka Band? Speak for yourself.
No a single citizen with common sense would want that.

BJP calls state bandh tomorrow, rules out CM's resignation
Bangalore, Jan 21, PTI:

Karnataka's ruling BJP called a state-wide bandh tomorrow protesting Governor H R Bhardwaj's sanction for prosecution of Chief Minister B S Yeddyurappa.

The party also ruled out Yeddyurappa's resignation in the wake of the Governor's action.
Taking stock of the crisis triggered by Bhardwaj's action, an emergent meeting of the party declared it would fight "legally and politically" against the Governor's sanction which it described as "unconstitutional and politically- motivated".

BJP decided to call a statewide bandh tomorrow to protest the Governor's action, BJP State unit president K S Eswarappa told reporters here.

"There is no question of the Chief Minister resigning. We will fight out legally and politically", BJP General Secretary Dharmendra Pradhan, also incharge of BJP affairs in Karnataka, said.
Pradhan was earlier rushed to the city by the BJP central leaders to guide the state unit in deciding the future course of action against the Governor.

Eshwrappa described Bhardwaj's decision as a "murder of democracy, a black order in the history of the state and done under the promptings by Congress and JD(S)".
"The Governor is carrying on his political agenda through his office and trying to breath life to Congress", he said.

He said Bhardwaj should tender an unconditional apology to the people of the state for his offensive remarks made against the government.

DHNS

engineer.akash

January 21st, 2011, 07:07 PM

Talk about digging ones own grave. :lol::lol:
How pathetic can BJP get?
What are they gonna achieve by calling a bandh, putting a common man at a lot inconvenience. For pete's sake they are in ruling. :nuts::nuts:

It will make people aware of governor's biased behaviour,who is working day and night to topple an elected governement.He is doing all these at the behest of Sonia gandhi.
Congress is again back to its dirty politics,but I am sure they will not succeed.
They must first prosecute all congressmen involved in Bofors case,CWG scam,2G scam,Adarsh scam,make public the swiss bank details list is endless....

gentem

January 21st, 2011, 07:19 PM

It will make people aware of governor's biased behaviour,who is working day and night to topple an elected governement.He is doing all these at the behest of Sonia gandhi.
Congress is again back to its dirty politics,but I am sure they will not succeed.
They must first prosecute all congressmen involved in Bofors case,CWG scam,2G scam,Adarsh scam,make public the swiss bank details list is endless....

ya central govt's high handedness. they could not do it due to allies a month back when this sucker guv had recommended for president's rule. again, this time they will fail. they think with the help of TOI like media they can topple a govt.

engineer.akash

January 21st, 2011, 07:25 PM

ya central govt's high handedness. they could not do it due to allies a month back when this sucker guv had recommended for president's rule. again, this time they will fail. they think with the help of TOI like media they can topple a govt.

First of all ban that useless Lokayukta from karnataka which is acting like jd(S) agent.Why doesnt lokayukta probe against Kumarswamy and congressmen like sm krishna,why only BJP govt??

Bangalore_Geek

January 22nd, 2011, 05:13 AM

And this is the problem with India. Even our "educated elite" have become hopelessly political. I voted for the BJP in the state elections, but the current crop of people have ruined Karnataka. The Reddy brothers have almost converted Bellary into another Rayalseema. The next version of "Rakta Charitra" will be shot in Bellary, mark my words. All thanks to these goons.

Sure, Congress has a lot to answer for on corruption, but at the very least I was happy to see A.Raja go. On the other hand, this Yeddy has shown the finger to Gadkari and come back to Bangalore. What's with the BJP screaming for "JPC, JPC, JPC" all over Delhi and then whining about "politically motivated actions" in Bangalore?

naan maadodhu stylu, berevaru maadodhu hailu! That has become the motto of both, the UPA-II in Delhi and the BJP in Bangalore. But it is unfortunate that instead of demanding action on all corrupt individuals across party affiliations, people are not willing to let go of their political biases.

Bangalore_Geek

January 22nd, 2011, 05:18 AM

And this whole business of declaring "bandhs" for political or personal reasons has got to stop. Bandhs are unconstitutional, as already decreed by the Kerala high court. Causing huge financial loss and inconvenience.

Barring a few fanatical BJP supporters, most people are getting thoroughly fed up with this lot in Karnataka. If elections are held in a month's time, neither will UPA-II win at the center, nor will BJP win in Karnataka. Both are equally fucked up.

gentem

January 22nd, 2011, 06:37 AM

reswaran

January 22nd, 2011, 06:49 AM

Bangalore_Geek

January 22nd, 2011, 06:51 AM

^^ voluntary bandh's are our birthright. we are ready to go to jail term for rioting as prescribed by law. there is no other way we can protest. instead we should plan some way to shut down delhi instead of hurthing our own state with bundh.

we should bandh all central govt offices in bangalore. for full next week. income tax, excise, customs, and other offices :bash:

You mean "strike", not 'bandh". There is a huge difference.

Voluntary strikes are your birthright, agreed. If a group of people decides NOT to go to work, that is called a strike and no one can deny that right to people.

But this "Bandh culture" is something different. For personal or political reasons, people call a "Bharat Bandh", enforced by hooligans and goons.

I say that Yeddy and the Reddys, both should be prosecuted under the law and as such, I have no interest in joining your protest and you have no right to force me to join your political protest.

I will support you in your endeavor to bring corrupt central ministers to book, though again it cannot and should not be achieved by "enforced Bandh" policies.

Bangalore_Geek

January 22nd, 2011, 06:55 AM

Gentem:

Here's a good take on this whole "Bandh vs. Strike" thing:

http://sujaiblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/bandhs-strikes-protests-and-holidays-i.html

The modern definition of bandh is quite different. A bandh no longer means ‘we will stop functioning.’ It means, ‘we will also stop you from functioning!’ Gone are the days when we are not supposed to pull others to cooperate with us in our non-cooperation. These days we impose it on all and sundry causing lot of inconvenience to others assuming it is our democratic right to bandh.

Bandh is the most commonly used weapon in India to show one’s dissatisfaction with the way things are. A bandh calls for a stop on all work. The people who call for bandh feel it is their right to impose it onto others. Shops are forcefully shutdown, companies are shut, and government offices are closed, and so on. We have all kinds of bandhs- Bharat bandh, State bandh, Rail Roko, Rasta Roko, etc. Nowadays, any group can call a bandh for any reason whatsoever. Even the government in power can call bandh on itself! That’s the funniest thing I have witnessed lately. We have made a mockery of this instrument.

gentem

January 22nd, 2011, 06:56 AM

Bangalore_Geek

January 22nd, 2011, 07:03 AM

^^ dude all this is called voluntary only. but force happens on disguise, and few people are ready to go to jail if at all they are caught. court has banned forced bundh. but who can prove if a shop shuts voluntarily or by coercion?

We have enough experience of "Bandhs" to know how these are enforced. They are enforced through muscle power of thugs and hooligans with stones and rods.

No businessman (even most of the fanatical BJP supporters) will want to shut shop on a Saturday. While strikes to get benefits may be voluntary, Bandhs for a political motive are almost never voluntary.

gentem

January 22nd, 2011, 07:09 AM

Raid unearths national sex racket
TNN, Jan 22, 2011, 01.10am IST

BANGALORE: The CCB raid on a five-star hotel, where a South Indian actor was arrested with two men on Thursday night, is part of a prostitution network spread across the country, involving many people from the film and modelling industry.

However, even the top police brass are tight-lipped about Thursday night's raid and said they had to collect more evidence about the racket, before making it public.

Early on Friday, police produced the three before the magistrate at his residence. While the actor, whose Kannada movie was released on Friday, and Venugopal, CEO of a software firm, were remanded to judicial custody and sent to Parappana Agrahara, police have taken the middleman, Surakshit Suman, into custody.

Joint commissioner of police (crime) Alok Kumar said they had taken Suman into custody for further investigation.

BIDARI KNEW OF NATIONAL RACKET

However, police commissioner Shankar Bidari, neither confirming the raid, nor denying it, said: "Three months ago, I received information about a hi-tech prostitution racket in the city. I had directed Alok Kumar to look into the issue. The CCB might have conducted the raid, but haven't given complete details,'' he said.

"When we say it is a national network, we need to get all the people involved in it and produce evidence against the accused. Besides, most of the transactions are made using internet and we need to gather evidence from the net also. This takes time and once we get to the bottom of the racket, we can come out with proper details. We need some time for the investigation,'' he added.

Read more: Raid unearths national sex racket - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bangalore/Raid-unearths-national-sex-racket/articleshow/7337523.cms#ixzz1Bk2ejIVY
movie actress there, but at least no drugs like a recent hyd case..

engineer.akash

January 22nd, 2011, 10:41 AM

Raid unearths national sex racket
TNN, Jan 22, 2011, 01.10am IST

movie actress there, but at least no drugs like a recent hyd case..

I guess it is Yamuna some gulti actress,there was a similar case where one more telegu actress was caught -saira banu??No idea what is up with these actresses :nuts:

engineer.akash

January 22nd, 2011, 10:47 AM

Bangalore_Geek

January 22nd, 2011, 11:02 AM

First of all check out the developments happening in bellary before you post something concerning Bellary.

BJP has proved it in the the recent ZP elections that it is stronger now in rural belt as well.

Check out the bandh response it goes to show that BJP is now a major party of karnataka no more a minnow .

Thank you, I know enough about Bellary. And what are you talking about "bandh response"? Most people who have had to shut shop are cursing and abusing these people. You talk about the bandh being a "success" as if everyone has voluntarily shut their shop out of solidarity for the BJP. Nonsense. Save these explanations for the goras - no Indian is going to get fooled by this "response to bandhs", we know how these bandhs work.

So, this is the level of identity and party politics being played by some people in the "educated" Indian middle class now. If we really want a better system and better future, we should become impartial and be equally vigilant about corruption from all quarters.

But no, for some people it is ok if their own party is corrupt, all their outrage and tirade is reserved only for the "other" party. "My shit doesn't stink" type of attitude. This is why I say that we must stop blaming politicians for our problems. The problem is with large sections of the hypocrite Indian middle class, who deserve such politicians.

These people have looted the mineral wealth of the state and entire mountains of ore have been packed off to China and elsewhere, and still they get no condemnation. Howls for JPC are reserved only for "others", isn't it?

Bangalore_Geek

January 22nd, 2011, 11:04 AM

dis.agree

January 22nd, 2011, 11:08 AM

Please call for Karnataka bandh

I will support it.It will only help BJP in gaining more support useless governor

since when did a person even if he was a cm become so powerful that he can't even be prosecuted? or, do you not understand the meaning of prosecution?

it's shocking that a minority people like you who voted for bjp think they can hold the entire state for ransom. what are the numbers - some 20% of total eligible voting population chose this party? this is the reason why indian democracy is a failed system.

engineer.akash

January 22nd, 2011, 11:08 AM

And as far as being a "major party and no more a minnow" is concerned, these antics are not endearing them to anyone. If they don't reform their ways in the limited time they have, they will fall flat on their face.

Cool so you are expecting jd(S)+congress to get 160+ seats?With siddrahmiah as the CM candidate and Revanna as DY CM.Go ahead buddy vote for such fools.

Many predicted that BJP will fare badly in ZP elections and they were proved wrong.

Bangalore_Geek

January 22nd, 2011, 11:11 AM

Cool so you are expecting jd(S)+congress to get 160+ seats?With siddrahmiah as the CM candidate and Revanna as DY CM.Go ahead buddy vote for such fools.

Many predicted that BJP will fare badly in ZP elections and they were proved wrong.

I will never vote for the JD(S) because their entire party policy stinks, and they don't have any good candidates besides. Cong maybe, but not with the current setup they have. So basically I don't know what I will do in the next election. :ohno:

That is the reason I want the BJP to get its act together, sack this Yeddy - he is screwing the image of the BJP more than helping it. Why support him and prop him up? :dunno:

engineer.akash

January 22nd, 2011, 11:14 AM

since when did a person even if he was a cm become so powerful that he can't even be prosecuted? or, do you not understand the meaning of prosecution?

You need to first understand that investigative agency has to do through study of the allegations and then submit a report to the governor and governor has to discuss this with the CM giving him an opportunity to explain his stand.Nothing of this sort was carried out.

Bhardwaj scores a first, experts differ
January 22nd, 2011
DC Correspondent

New Delhi, Jan. 21: The action of Karnataka Governor H.R. Bhardwaj granting sanction to private complainants to initiate the prosecution of Chief Minister B.S. Yeddyurappa and state home minister R. Ashok is the first case of its kind when the Governor had granted sanction for prosecution of a Chief Minister on the private complaints.
So far the issue of sanction in all the cases of corruption against the chief ministers, including Parkash Singh Badal, Amarinder Singh and Rajinder Kaur Bhattal in Punjab, Om Prakash Chautala in Haryana, late Karunakaran in Kerala, Lalu Prasad in Bihar and Mayawati in UP as in their cases the issue of sanction was considered only after the probe agencies had filed the chargesheets. Since the private complaints against Mr Yeddyurappa and Mr Ashok would have to be placed before the competent court with appropriate material by the complainants, and if the court forms a ‘prima facie’ opinion that a case is made out then the court would have to refer it for further probe to the investigating agencies.
The investigating agency concerned would than collect the evidence and evaluate them to form an opinion whether a chargesheet could be filed. If it decides to file the chargesheet, then in this case of course the sanction issue would not arise as the Governor has already granted it in advance.
But then the experts also feel that the Governor's action would be seen as putting the "horse before the cart" in anticipation that the material produced by the complainants would definitely result in filing of the chargesheet. "Though the Governor has a right to grant sanction to prosecution on a private complaint, it is, however, an extreme and extraordinary step, which was unheard of," former Delhi High Court Judge and senior advocate R S Sodhi said. He said ultimately the issue has to be decided by the trial court "whether prima-facie there is actually a case made out against him (CM) or not." The other important question to be considered was that it was always prudent for the Governor to "go by the advice of the cabinet, though there are exceptions where he can act independently and should act independently".
According to Former Lok Sabha Seretary General and constitution expert Subhash Kashyap, the scope of the prosecution of a public servant on private complaint was limited as compared to a case registered and investigated by the probe agency.
He felt that there was always "lurking danger" in this kind of sanction by the Governor if the court on primary examination comes to the conclusion that "no prima facie" case is made out. In such a situation, the Governor would expose himself to a severe criticism and even could be accused of "precipitating constitutional crisis" in the state. "Under the constitution, the Governor has some discretionary power, which can't be questioned, but the areas of discretion has been specifically mentioned in the Constitution. There is a established code of procedure under the law. I think, the Governor has not followed the due procedure of law in granting sanction to prosecute of Karnataka CM B S Yeddyurappa."
"The Governor has granted sanction of prosecution by going one step ahead and that too on an ex-parte basis (without giving the CM a chance to explain) which is not right," Kashyap said.

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/bengaluru/bhardwaj-scores-first-experts-differ-400

engineer.akash

January 22nd, 2011, 11:22 AM

I will never vote for the JD(S) because their entire party policy stinks, and they don't have any good candidates besides. Cong maybe, but not with the current setup they have. So basically I don't know what I will do in the next election. :ohno:

That is the reason I want the BJP to get its act together, sack this Yeddy - he is screwing the image of the BJP more than helping it. Why support him and prop him up?

Buddy I understand your concerns,believe me Yeddurappa will soon be replaced,Some one like Suresh Kumar or jagadish shettar will be given the baton.

I just don't want those clowns like revanna/siddrahmiah to rule the state.

If you go by the recent ZP election results

BJP won 12 clear winner that means say there are 7 assembly seats on an average in every district --

12*7 = 84 seats inbjp's kitty

10 hung verdict= take atleast 5 in BJP's name that comes out to 5*7 = 35

84+35=119 seats

BJP can easily manage to win them.

We have not counted the opposition weakness yet---

* Too many aspirants for CM's gaadi in congress-Siddrahmiah,Mallikarjuna kHarge,DK shivkumar-Nobody wants siddrahmiah to be projected as the CM candidate as he is still considered as an outsider and ofcourse this fellow is not know to peoplein most of karnataka aprt from southern belts.

* JD(s) woes are no less-Kumarswany v/s Revanna show will happen.HDD's dream is to see his elder son i.e revanna as CM or DyCM.Kumarswamy will not sit quite he will divide Devegowdas family

* Lingayats major vote bank has already deserted congress and jd(S)

* If elections happen- BJP high command will not allow reddys and yeddurappa(he is willing to go as RS MP) to contest they will project jagadish shettar or Suresh kumar or ananth kumar as the CM.

* Operation Kamala--the biggest thing opposition camps fear

gentem

January 22nd, 2011, 12:05 PM

You need to first understand that investigative agency has to do through study of the allegations and then submit a report to the governor and governor has to discuss this with the CM giving him an opportunity to explain his stand.Nothing of this sort was carried out.

Bhardwaj scores a first, experts differ
January 22nd, 2011
DC Correspondent

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/bengaluru/bhardwaj-scores-first-experts-differ-400

those private parties are friends of sonia. had lokayuktha or cbi asked permission like in cases of lalu or jayalalitha that would have been fine. yeddy told he will go to high court against prosecution. likely high court will stay the order..

murder of democracy is what is going on here. zp tp elections people have given verdict.

engineer.akash

January 22nd, 2011, 12:13 PM

it's shocking that a minority people like you who voted for bjp think they can hold the entire state for ransom. what are the numbers - some 20% of total eligible voting population chose this party? this is the reason why indian democracy is a failed system.

Stop whining like a starved dog,your statements show you are nothing short of a moron,pardon me for using that.

gentem

January 22nd, 2011, 12:34 PM

Stop whining like a starved dog,your statements show you are nothing short of a moron,pardon me for using that.

indian biggest democracy inspired uk coalition which he calls failed. that geek also pessimist.

now that yeddy did not resign is already half victory of democracy in ktaka.

engineer.akash

January 22nd, 2011, 12:54 PM

indian biggest democracy inspired uk coalition which he calls failed. that geek also pessimist.

now that yeddy did not resign is already half victory of democracy in ktaka.

I think geek's concerns are genuine,BSY's corruption acts have tarnished BJPs image to certain extent.But what that other guy says is utter nonsense,let him explain how Indian democracy is a failed one.We must pack him off to rural china where commies and their dogs rule over humans.

Rakeshmblore

January 22nd, 2011, 02:17 PM

since when did a person even if he was a cm become so powerful that he can't even be prosecuted? or, do you not understand the meaning of prosecution?

it's shocking that a minority people like you who voted for bjp think they can hold the entire state for ransom. what are the numbers - some 20% of total eligible voting population chose this party? this is the reason why indian democracy is a failed system.

No Indian can call our democracy a failed system..

I just wonder are you really Indian?

pardon me :ohno: :ohno:

Bangalore_Geek

January 22nd, 2011, 02:54 PM

No Indian can call our democracy a failed system..

I just wonder are you really Indian?

pardon me :ohno: :ohno:

He's just being pessimistic.

But to ensure that it does not unquestionably become a failed system, shouldn't we ensure and demand certain things? For instance, shouldn't BJP supporters support the resignation of Yeddy instead of exhorting for a Bandh and condoning the associated hooliganism? The visuals are out, and vandalism of this kind just cannot be condoned, especially in a place like Bangalore.

In and around RMV 2nd stage, shops were open in the first half of the day, but some of them closed after news of vandalism came through. Many of them operated with 'half shutters'. The overwhelming sentiment on the streets, among the vegetable vendors, bakery shop owners, drivers etc. is that this government wants to loot openly, and wants to riot when someone tries to take action. How many people will understand all the fine points of "procedural sanction", "governor overstepping his powers" and all that? Even some of my friends who are hardcore BJP supporters, do not agree with this Bandh business.

BJP is digging its own grave with these things. I urge the BJP supporters to come out against this Bandh and condemn the corruption and rot that seems to have set in. Same as I would urge any congress supporters to condemn the elements of the central leadership who need to, instead of providing blind support to their respective parties.

avinash2060

January 22nd, 2011, 02:59 PM

BSY Strikes back.BJP files Case Against HDK and Dharam Singh to Justice Padmaraj Commission and Lokayuktha .Page Mentions about HDK Misdeeds as a CM which Includes illegal De notification of 500 acres in Bangalore ,Irregularities in Road Works ,Illegal Wealth Accumulation case and Allotting 50 sites to family member's in Mysore.Case will also be filed in High Court Against Former CM's .Aab Aaygea Asli Maza

avinash2060

January 22nd, 2011, 03:06 PM

He's just being pessimistic.

But to ensure that it does not unquestionably become a failed system, shouldn't we ensure and demand certain things? For instance, shouldn't BJP supporters support the resignation of Yeddy instead of exhorting for a Bandh and condoning the associated hooliganism? The visuals are out, and vandalism of this kind just cannot be condoned, especially in a place like Bangalore.

In and around RMV 2nd stage, shops were open in the first half of the day, but some of them closed after news of vandalism came through. Many of them operated with 'half shutters'. The overwhelming sentiment on the streets, among the vegetable vendors, bakery shop owners, drivers etc. is that this government wants to loot openly, and wants to riot when someone tries to take action. How many people will understand all the fine points of "procedural sanction", "governor overstepping his powers" and all that? Even some of my friends who are hardcore BJP supporters, do not agree with this Bandh business.

BJP is digging its own grave with these things. I urge the BJP supporters to come out against this Bandh and condemn the corruption and rot that seems to have set in. Same as I would urge any congress supporters to condemn the elements of the central leadership who need to, instead of providing blind support to their respective parties.

If BSY has to go Manmhoan also has to go and seek fresh Mandate ,People of India have Lost faith in Manmohan Led UPA-2(Ugly Political Agenda 2),A Raja 1.77 lakh cr ,Kalmadi 60000 cr ,Swiss Account (Billions of Dollars) ,NREGA

It's time for Operation Lotus @ Centre ,Hope Reddys (janrdhana and Jagnamohan) together pull down UPA

Bangalore_Geek

January 22nd, 2011, 03:18 PM

If BSY has to go Manmhoan also has to go and seek fresh Mandate ,People of India have Lost faith in Manmohan Led UPA-2(Ugly Political Agenda 2),A Raja 1.77 lakh cr ,Kalmadi 60000 cr ,Swiss Account (Billions of Dollars) ,NREGA

It's time for Operation Lotus @ Centre ,Hope Reddys (janrdhana and Jagnamohan) together pull down UPA

It will be nice to see the UPA-2 get a good smack on the behind. I concur that if elections were to be held in the near future, the UPA is not going to win, and rightly so. But I will draw the line at wishing for the Reddy brothers to grow that much in stature.

Entire hills have been flattened and shipped to China under the tutelage of the Reddy brothers. Per some estimates, their illegal mining has cost the exchequer more than what Kalmadi's actions have. Such people don't have any ideology, any beliefs. Elevating them to that stature after having seen them in action is akin to suicide. When they have "achieved" so much from Bellary, only god can imagine what they will achieve from Delhi! :ohno:

Rakeshmblore

January 22nd, 2011, 03:20 PM

@Bangalore_Geek

I didn't mean to offend him,

In democracy everybody has the right to say, right to protest

but the way he did is wrong. :nuts:

Rakeshmblore

January 22nd, 2011, 03:22 PM

dis.agree

January 22nd, 2011, 06:16 PM

You need to first understand that investigative agency has to do through study of the allegations and then submit a report to the governor and governor has to discuss this with the CM giving him an opportunity to explain his stand.Nothing of this sort was carried out.

Bhardwaj scores a first, experts differ
January 22nd, 2011
DC Correspondent

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/bengaluru/bhardwaj-scores-first-experts-differ-400

you are being silly by quoting complex legal opinions that different experts differ. and that is good enough to call a bandh?

dis.agree

January 22nd, 2011, 06:44 PM

Stop whining like a starved dog,your statements show you are nothing short of a moron,pardon me for using that.

present bjp government polled some 33% (less than congress) of those who voted. and in case you don't understand simple maths, you only need to multiply that with % people who actually voted, to determine how much your beloved leader you suck up to actually won.

i care less for all these jokers and all these non-sense. if you are not happy with governor's decision why bother me: try self-immolation, that works in this country.

there are many simple folks like me who are being denied a saturday dinner with family & other chores such as having to get passport photos because of goondas like you who call a bandh. which moron told you that you can call bandhs like that and think you can take away my personal rights.

gentem

January 22nd, 2011, 07:07 PM

dis.agree

January 22nd, 2011, 07:15 PM

Bangalore_Geek

January 22nd, 2011, 07:36 PM

^^ so what if 33%. had they changed our voting system to direct election %, then bjp would have campaigned different way and people would have voted different way. u lack basics.

u r denied dinner or whatever u cant help it. shopkeepers closed shop voluntarily. shut up and put up.

Your views on the BJP and election statistics are your own and you are entitled to them, but please don't peddle this nonsense about 'closing shops voluntarily'. You are lying. Did you shut your eyes when the images of hooligans with sticks were beamed on news today? Those guys who smashed the windows of shops which were open? Taking merchandise from an open shop and throwing it all over the road? Did you shut your eyes to those images or were you among those louts?

think-tank

January 22nd, 2011, 07:45 PM

Did you shut your eyes to those images?

And so did you because at the end of the day I don't see you make any difference other than spouting anger. All those who are against corruption in India are the ones who are, fighting talk about whose right and wrong and no activity, just rabble rousing hypocrites who talk as if they are saints because even those saints are not so saintly anymore.

Bangalore_Geek

January 22nd, 2011, 07:59 PM

And so did you because at the end of the day I don't see you make any difference other than spouting anger. All those who are against corruption in India are the ones who are, fighting talk about whose right and wrong and no activity, just rabble rousing hypocrites who talk as if they are saints because even those saints are not so saintly anymore.

All I understood was your first sentence. The rest of the stuff about 'rabble rousing hypocrites' makes no sense.

Of course I make a difference. Because I don't bribe, don't cheat. I compromise on the size of my house which I am constructing, so that I am within all the building by-laws, in spite of the architect insisting that it is "ok to have around 10% deviation" since "everyone does it in Bangalore". I didn't pay a bribe to BBMP for Khata transfer of my land, when "everyone does it".

This is the fucking problem with India - anyone who speaks against corruption is a great person as long as it fits within your political beliefs. As soon as the same criticism is directed against the party which you are an acolyte of, you start jumping and calling it "politically motivated". This is the fucking hypocrisy of the Indian middle class.

What the fuck is "fighting against corruption"? All you need to do as an individual is to ensure that you do not contribute to corruption in your deeds, and raise dissenting voices when you see corruption. If everyone does this, there is no bloody need to "fight" against corruption, isn't it? What do you expect now, should a software engineer or an architect or a shopkeeper do the work of the CBI in his day to day life to "fight corruption"?

Bangalore_Geek

January 22nd, 2011, 08:04 PM

You can see the double game here. Congress refuses to release the names of secret account holders because it is rumored that a former prime minister stashed billions of dollars in his son's account. On the other hand they gave a go-ahead for yedyurappa's prosecution....really sick bunch of backstabbing pricks.

Sure, so instead of demanding for action against both, you want no action against either. That is your logic. And what about the double game where parliament has been held up for weeks with howls of "JPC, JPC, JPC", and on the other hand, no action is taken against the rot within the BJP itself? What about that double game?

Demanding action in Delhi is fine, but not acting in Bangalore is not fine. It makes one lose the moral right to talk about double games.

think-tank

January 22nd, 2011, 08:08 PM

think-tank

January 22nd, 2011, 08:15 PM

Sure, so instead of demanding for action against both, you want no action against either. That is your logic.

What happens if they do take action? Because you can't get past behind that idea. I'll tell you what happens- the share index will plunge, there will be no law and order and there will be no authority, country's economy will go down the drain overnight...that's your logic which is drowning the country overnight. I on the other hand look at things subjectively.

Bangalore_Geek

January 22nd, 2011, 08:22 PM

^^ The only difference you make is not get caught while some unlucky ones do. White collar swindler is the phrase. Corruption is deeply rooted in the history of India and the history of this world, you are doing many illegal things which you are not aware of or sometimes it is unavoidable. You can't get rid of it overnight nor you can teach others to behave morally when you yourself are not. You say you make a difference but in reality it looks as if you are trying to make a difference but what you are doing is you are trying to look as if you are trying to make a difference.

You need to explain what you mean here, because you are making no sense at all. I gave you two instances where I have gone out of my way not to flout the rules when it was very easy for me to. And you come back with "you don't get caught, some people do". Do you have comprehension problems?

What "illegal things may I be doing which I am not aware of or is unavoidable"?

What happens if they do take action? Because you can't get past behind that idea. I'll tell you what happens- the share index will plunge, there will be no law and order and there will be no authority, country's economy will go down the drain overnight...that's your logic which drowning the country overnight. I on the other hand look at things subjectively.

What? There will be no law and order if action is taken against those accused of corruption. This is something new which I am hearing for the first time. In short, you say, by some weird logic, that the country will "drown overnight and go down the drain" if we have systems in place to tackle corruption. And this, two posts after you cribbed that someone like me "is not making any difference to corruption". Then why do you keep hooting about Kalmadi, Raja, Bofors, Rajiv Gandhi and all that?

You make absolutely no sense.

think-tank

January 22nd, 2011, 08:34 PM

What? There will be no law and order if action is taken against those accused of corruption. This is something new.
You make absolutely no sense.

Frankly speaking, you are not of the intellectual caliber to understand what I am trying to say. Still, here goes...

Taking action after an act of corruption won't get rid of corruption so these anti-corruption laws are of no use. People like you spout anger only when corruption is exposed by the media. BJP and Congress were involved in the acts of corruption for many years, nobody had the balls to find out what their democratically elected leaders were doing, the only thing that upsets them is corruption being exposed.:lol:

Bangalore_Geek

January 22nd, 2011, 08:43 PM

Frankly speaking, you are not of the intellectual caliber to understand what I am trying to say. Still, here goes...

Taking action after an act of corruption won't get rid of corruption so these anti-corruption laws are of no use. People like you spout anger only when corruption is exposed by the media. BJP and Congress were involved in the acts of corruption for many years, nobody had the balls to find out what their democratically elected leaders were doing, the only thing that upsets them is corruption being exposed.:lol:

Speaking of intellectual caliber, you probably don't know the concept of deterrence but still, here goes: Taking action after an act of corruption certainly acts as a deterrent, so anti-corruption laws are useful, even after the act. Coming back to intellectual caliber, people like you don't have the intellectual caliber to understand that people involved in their day to day lives cannot do the work of the CBI or the Lok Ayukta, so what do you expect them to do, keep cribbing and get upset without due cause?

Frankly speaking, you are not even of the intellectual caliber to clarify the nonsense you spouted in the first two posts, and went off on a tangent instead of answering the questions: what was all the crap about "not getting caught while some do", "doing many unavoidable illegal things unknowingly", "no law and order and no authority if action is taken", "country will drown overnight", and all that?

You won't explain your retarded posts because you have nothing to say, and were just spewing nonsense.

think-tank

January 22nd, 2011, 09:01 PM

Speaking of intellectual caliber, you probably don't know the concept of deterrence but still, here goes: Taking action after an act of corruption certainly acts as a deterrent, so anti-corruption laws are useful, even after the act. Coming back to intellectual caliber, people like you don't have the intellectual caliber to understand that people involved in their day to day lives cannot do the work of the CBI or the Lok Ayukta, so what do you expect them to do, keep cribbing and get upset without due cause?

Frankly speaking, you are not even of the intellectual caliber to clarify the nonsense you spouted in the first two posts, and went off on a tangent instead of answering the questions: what was all the crap about "not getting caught while some do", "doing many unavoidable illegal things unknowingly", "no law and order and no authority if action is taken", "country will drown overnight", and all that?

You won't explain your retarded posts because you have nothing to say, and were just spewing nonsense.

:lol:

Anti-corruption laws aren't deterrent, it'll give rise to anarchy. People will come up with all sorts of arguments and counter arguments to save their necks in a democratic system (like you saw today) so in the end people are the sufferers, there will be no rule of law. Because exposing corruption is incompetence because they are letting an act of corruption pass by freely. Exposing is commercial because it'll only boost trp ratings of the news channel. In a democratic system, corruption is the way of life, I'll give you an example- your tax money is being illegally used to bribe contractors and land owners and all sorts of scams, so you are ultimately responsible- you are the most corrupt to claim you are not corrupt...or that US government killed 200,000 civilians using their tax payers money. Aren't people sponsoring terror or are they just plain stupid? Indians are not so different when they elect same leaders whom they know are corrupt.

Bangalore_Geek

January 22nd, 2011, 09:06 PM

:lol:

Anti-corruption laws aren't deterrent, it'll give rise to anarchy. People will come with all sorts of arguments and counter arguments to save their necks in a democratic system (like you saw today) so in the end people are the sufferers, there will be no rule of law. Because exposing corruption is incompetence because they are letting an act of corruption pass by freely. Exposing is commercial because it'll only boost trp ratings of the news channel. In a democratic system, corruption is the way of life, I'll give you an example- your tax money is being illegally used to bribe contractors and land owners and all sorts of scams, so you are ultimately responsible- you are the most corrupt to claim you are not corrupt...or that US government killed 200,000 civilians using their tax payers money. Aren't people sponsoring terror or are they just plain stupid? Indians are not so different when they elect same leaders whom they know are corrupt.

Well, finally you presented your line of thinking coherently. Thanks a lot for that, though I might not agree with all the points you make.

I don't agree because your point hinges on the fact that anti-corruption laws cannot be implemented effectively. If this were to happen, your argument would not hold good. And we have precedents both in India and the rest of the world for effective implementation of the law.

And if you make a case that I am 'ultimately responsible' for the evil that happens because someone up the chain is going to use my money for something they shouldn't, you can paint every human being in the world with that brush. This line of thinking is fatalistic and non-constructive IMHO. If one were to think on those lines, one might as well stop complaining about Yeddy, congress, 2G, Raja, Kalmadi.... I don't think that attitude is going to take us anywhere.

engineer.akash

January 23rd, 2011, 03:54 AM

Governor’s action improper: Nariman
Fali S. Nariman

The Governor has no power to order prosecution of a Chief Minister if the Council of Ministers has advised him not to do so. The earlier view taken in A.R. Antulay's case where Maharashtra Governor Latif had advised the then Chief Minister's prosecution was upheld by the Supreme Court on a submission made in the High Court that the Governor had the power to do so. And that was not interfered with by the Supreme Court.

The Chief Minister is responsible to the Legislative Assembly and it is for the Legislative Assembly to show a lack of confidence in him if it so chooses on the ground of his corrupt act.

The Governor is a constitutional head and must act on the aid and advice of his Council of Ministers. In a Constitution Bench decision of the Supreme Court in 2004, the court had unequivocally said that unless the Council of Ministers disabled or disentitled itself to take a decision about whether the Chief Minister should or should not be prosecuted, the Governor "may not have any role to play".

Even if the Governor invokes some residual power in himself, he must then offer to resign and then things will take care of themselves and the courts will then decide whether he has the power to order such a prosecution on his own. This is the only way in which Governors can keep out of politics.

The Governor must leave the political parties to go to court for a direction that he is empowered to sanction prosecution of the Chief Minister even though he is a constitutional head and the Chief Minister and the Council of Ministers are responsible to the Legislative Assembly.

Besides, the matter was to be determined by Karnataka Lokayukta Justice Santosh Hegde and it does not appear that he has recommended to the Assembly that the Chief Minister should be prosecuted: if he had done so, then technically speaking, as the appointing authority, he could, perhaps, relying on the recommendation of the Lokayukta, have ordered the sanction to prosecute the Chief Minister.

However, there may be some scope for the Governor on some notions of his own residual power to grant sanction. But in the absence of such a recommendation from the Lokayukta, it would be improper and not constitutional for the Governor to act on his own.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2011/20110123/main2.htm

gentem

January 23rd, 2011, 04:22 AM

Bangalore_Geek

January 23rd, 2011, 05:06 AM

we cant have hanging for corruption. that is communism. thanks to 2 g scam our mobile bills are cheaper. tax collection fos spectrum is demanded by left party of wb. upa will sweep to power again, common man doesnt care 2g kalmadi etc

corruption is not that big an offense. now rejected commies geek and dis.agree can stop shouting.

this toi and times now think they can topple elected govt. do u kno vijaya karnataka editor resigned after acquired by times?

Wait a moment, are you referring to me as a "rejected commie"? You are showing that you have the IQ of a caterpillar. You are one of those who plays identity politics at the expense of the nation, and anyone who disagrees with anything your party does is called a "commie" or a "fascist" or whatever. You remind me of that Pakistani Zaid Hamid: if anyone disagrees with his rabid views, he calls him a "Zionist" or a "Jew" or an "Indian agent".

I am the most fervent supporter of capitalism and liberalization and I have had intense arguments with commies on other internet forums. But some morons cannot get beyond calling people names if they don't follow the same ideology.

Edit: And apart from the obvious idiocy here, gentem is showing his lack of knowledge too. The only major communist country today, China, has hanging as a punishment for corruption. And gentem starts off with a gem: "we cant have hanging for corruption. that is communism." :nuts:

Bangalore_Geek

January 23rd, 2011, 05:10 AM

^^ so what if 33%. had they changed our voting system to direct election %, then bjp would have campaigned different way and people would have voted different way. u lack basics.

u r denied dinner or whatever u cant help it. shopkeepers closed shop voluntarily. shut up and put up.

http://www.bangaloremirror.com/article/1/20110123201101230158466099248b7b0/When-govt-stalled-state-this-driver-tried-to-run-a-bus.html

BMTC driver Lakshmikantha ends up with a fractured nose and a battered body; conductor gets a thrashing from BJP supporters for coming to the driver’s rescue.

BMTC had not declared that it’s buses wouldn’t be plying. So, he responded to the call of duty and went to work. And for that, he was rewarded with a fractured nose and a bruised and battered body — gifts from BJP workers who stopped him from taking his passengers to their destinations.

Lakshmikantha was not the only victim. N Somashekhar, conductor of the bus he was driving, too was beaten up by the
bandh supporters for coming to the driver’s rescue.

engineer.akash

January 23rd, 2011, 05:12 AM

Calm down guys...Now the show has started.Governor Halad sikkapate trass kodathabandi dane BJP gae.Anyways now BJP is all geared up for a legal battle and BJP will triumph again :drunk:

Bangalore_Geek

January 23rd, 2011, 05:15 AM

Calm down guys...Now the show has started.Governor Halad sikkapate trass kodathabandi dane BJP gae.Anyways now BJP is all geared up for a legal battle and BJP will triumph again :drunk:

I believe Yeddy is going to file cases against Kumaraswamy and "Drum Singh". If Yeddy goes down, it will be worth it if he takes these two along too.

engineer.akash

January 23rd, 2011, 05:23 AM

I believe Yeddy is going to file cases against Kumaraswamy and "Drum Singh". If Yeddy goes down, it will be worth it if he takes these two along too.

Ofcourse every goon will get exposed I feel something good has happened for the state. :happy:

I admired Kumarswamy for his administration skills,those 20 months rule of BJP+JD(s) was the best for karnataka.Kumarswamy led the coalition well but thanks to his greed, he was shown the exit door.

Drum sing --Did nothing but sat like a Drum for all 5 years--Karnataka rotted during that period.

gentem

January 23rd, 2011, 05:27 AM

http://www.bangaloremirror.com/article/1/20110123201101230158466099248b7b0/When-govt-stalled-state-this-driver-tried-to-run-a-bus.html

do u kno bangalore mirror owned by toi? times is moving pieces nicely only to fool few geeks.

communism = high tax and wealthy govt. that did not happen in 2g case and our mobile bill is cheap.

only losers want all leaders to go down, they envy somebody grow tall, evident in geek's lasr commenr.

Bangalore_Geek

January 23rd, 2011, 05:39 AM

do u kno bangalore mirror owned by toi? times is moving pieces nicely only to fool few geeks.

So you say the report is false, eh? Goons and coward hooligans like you go around in big groups and beat up people, and then blame the media for reporting it. Every paper is Bangalore has reported these incidents, and many more besides. And you say that all papers are "moving pieces". First you lie and fib that shops were 'closed voluntarily' and then talk about 'moving pieces'.

I don't appreciate Times coverage and I know about their bias, but the news is true, which you don't have the honesty to admit. You should be the one who gets beaten next time.

only losers want all leaders to go down, they envy somebody grow tall, evident in geek's lasr commenr.

Only morons will talk such nonsense - "envy somebody grow tall". Typical closeted retarded thinking - anyone criticizes something, it's because they are "envious or jealous". Thinking like this is what keeps us behind.

gentem

January 23rd, 2011, 05:58 AM

So you say the report is false, eh? Goons and coward hooligans like you go around in big groups and beat up people, and then blame the media for reporting it. Every paper is Bangalore has reported these incidents, and many more besides. And you say that all papers are "moving pieces". First you lie and fib that shops were 'closed voluntarily' and then talk about 'moving pieces'.

I don't appreciate Times coverage and I know about their bias, but the news is true, which you don't have the honesty to admit. You should be the one who gets beaten next time.

Only morons will talk such nonsense - "envy somebody grow tall". Typical closeted retarded thinking - anyone criticizes something, it's because they are "envious or jealous". Thinking like this is what keeps us behind.

u wanted all cms to go down. that is outright bad. there are good and bad ppl in all fields including politics. i want ktaka cms to grow to national level. and yes we are not behind only u r retarded.

Bangalore_Geek

January 23rd, 2011, 06:05 AM

u wanted all cms to go down. that is outright bad. i want ktaka cms to grow to national level. and yes we are not behind.

I would want people to grow to national level only if they are competent enough. Do these Mannina Mommaga and Drum Singh really have it in them?

In an interview once, when drum singh was asked about potholed roads, he got furious with the reporters and started shouting that the reporters and the public was "heartless". "If all roads are good, what work will the poor labourers do, how will they eat?" That was that moron drum singh's logic. God forbid, if such people grow to national level, the country is doomed. The worst phase for Karnataka was under that fellow. Kumaraswamy is better, but his father and his family is notoriously nepotistic, and will do anything and stoop to any level to remain on their seats.

We are behind as a nation still, and we all know it. We're working our way up, but condoning immoral acts in the name of party and identity politics is not helping.

Ah, I see that you have added "only u r retarded" after a few hours. You know, everyone's sick of your demented trolling all over the place. People like you are India's worst enemies. Support your party no matter what shit they do, support politicians from the state no matter how crappy they are - everything is about identity politics for people like you. Only an utter asshole will keep patting his back about "already becoming equal to Singapore" and simultaneously supporting policies which ensure that the statement never becomes reality. And when you are confronted, your advise is to insulate yourself from all the shit around in a Toyota Corolla. What a prick! Don't clean up the shit, don't improve, just keep crowing about "being equal to Singapore, Shanghai, NY, blah blah blah." and make yourself a laughing stock in front of the whole world.

gentem

January 25th, 2011, 06:04 AM

Pollution plays havoc with women's hormones
Jayashree Nandi, TNN, Jan 25, 2011, 12.07am IST
BANGALORE: It is a hidden epidemic that has crept into women's lives and become part of their daily conversations. Just like diabetes is the biggest lifestyle disease affecting the masses, polycystic ovarian disease (PCOD) and hypothyroidism are the most common lifestyle issues women are facing. Environmental pollution, pesticide residues and high-fat, irregular diets have led to this massive outbreak, according to doctors.

Every other girl or young woman you talk to is either suffering from some kind of ovarian cyst or has PCOD. This was not as common a decade ago. While some doctors blame it on the drastic lifestyle change women have undergone, some others are clueless about the reason. US always had a high number of women with PCOD but now it has reached India as well.

According to gynaecologist Dr Kamini Rao, there is a 30% rise in PCOD cases in the past five years. Hypothyroidism, too, is seeing a 20% jump in the past five years, mainly due to some deficiencies in the diet, she says.

"The fast food and packaged food culture has grown exponentially in the past few years. Most women these days are working and cannot afford to eat at home all the time. They also don't exercise. Obesity is directly linked to irregular menstrual cycles and diseases like PCOD," explains Dr Rao.

Strangely, environmental pollution doesn't affect only the lungs; it hits women's health too. "Pollution and toxic exhaust fumes and chemicals definitely play havoc on hormones," added Dr Rao.

Naturopathy expert and head of Soukya, Dr Isaac Mathai says that even the natural medicine fraternity is clueless about the boom in such cases. "We are treating many more cases. It happens due to hormonal imbalance, but we not sure why so many women are affected. Hormonal imbalance is likely for women who are on birth control pills, but now, even younger girls are affected. Naturopathy suggests a three-month to one-year course of medication, diet and yoga."

According to HoD, department of diabetes and endocrinology, Manipal Hospital, Dr Mohan Badgandi, hormonal imbalance is common in women with a family history of diabetes Type 2. Such vulnerable teenagers gain weight during puberty, which leads to irregular menstrual cycles. They also consume refined oil, calorie-rich foods and other saturated fats. "These habits interfere with the hormonal system. We are not just seeing too many cases of women with hormonal imbalance, PCOD, diabetes and hypothyroidism but also insulin resistance. There is some consensus in the medical fraternity that pesticides, food preservatives, colouring agents, bio-tech products fortified with calories could lead to such issues," he told TOI.

ENVIRONMENT AND POLLUTION

Celebrity nutritionist and sports science expert Rujuta Diwekar says: "There is a direct correlation between plastic and hormones. I ask my clients to avoid heating food in plastic, even storing food in plastic or eating anything out of plastic containers. We also have too many chemicals in the products we use -- shampoo, conditioner and make-up have chemicals which interfere with our bodies and ovarian fluids in the long run. The disharmony in hormones caused due to these chemicals needs to be addressed," she told The Times of India.

Read more: Pollution plays havoc with women's hormones - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bangalore/Pollution-plays-havoc-with-womens-hormones/articleshow/7356672.cms#ixzz1C1JMuNND
Now bangalore shifted to EURO IV petrol and diesel, pollution must have reduced since last april..

avinash2060

January 25th, 2011, 06:22 AM

Bangalore: First,the debate was all about the project.Now,post-approval,it has shifted to the proposed alignment for high speed rail link (HSRL) from BIA to Police Parade Grounds opposite Minsk Square.
Nearly Rs 6,689 crore will be spent to travel 34km in 25 minutes.So a bigger question arises: Has HSRL been planned for the people or for the airport If its for the common man,why has it been terminated in the middle of nowhere (Police Parade Grounds)

THE TAKE-OFF

Three years ago,the finalized HSRL programme was from Mehkri Circle to BIA.The present alignment was fixed after checking feasibility to several other destinations from the airport.BIA to Majestic was one of the most-preferred alternatives as it was shorter and set to become a complete transit hub with the Metro.Majestic metro station also marks the crisscross point between the East-West and North-South corridors of Bangalore Metro.However,the HSRL addition was not feasible at Majestic considering the congestion and acquisition hurdles enroute.With the government sanctioning the project with the present alignment last week,groundwork for HSRL is set to take off by December 2011.

TRACK AHEAD

One month for formal project clearance

This will be followed by commercial bidding for 90 days

Private partner for PPP mode to be selected by May 2011

Planning process that begins thereafter to last for six months

Construction on ground to take off in Nov-Dec 2011

38 months for completion of 34-km-long HSRL track in Phase 1

anab01

January 25th, 2011, 07:55 AM

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gentem

January 25th, 2011, 02:53 PM

I've never heard anyone say Bengaluru in the US. The few people who do know of the city always call it Bangalore.

Most educated people in the US only know Mumbai and New Delhi as the big cities in India

enough is enough. bangalore is more searched in US than both mumbai and delhi, by a margin :bash: educated people search more :cheers: they are all bangalored and left with a shabby t-shirt :lol:

change filter to "united states only" in google trends.. blue = bangalore

http://www.google.com/trends/viz?q=bangalore,+chennai,+delhi,+mumbai&date=ytd&geo=us&graph=weekly_img&sort=0&sa=N

http://www.google.com/trends?q=bangalore%2C+chennai%2C+delhi%2C+mumbai&ctab=0&geo=us&geor=all&date=2010&sort=0

mumbai and delhi are only 74% and 77% of bangalore :tiasd: bangalore saw a dip when obama visited mumbai

i remember this thread too ppl were saying usa ppl donnoany other city than del and mum..

Master of Disguise

January 25th, 2011, 04:54 PM

^^ Blah Blah Blah Blah.......more Blah Blah Blah Blah....enjoy

gentem

January 25th, 2011, 05:31 PM

but US searches for word bombay are 40 % of bangalore. so mumbai+bombay 114 % push bangalore to second place. but still we beat artificial city delhi easily :banana:

smertin

January 25th, 2011, 06:40 PM

enough is enough. bangalore is more searched in US than both mumbai and delhi, by a margin :bash: educated people search more :cheers: they are all bangalored and left with a shabby t-shirt :lol:

change filter to "united states only" in google trends.. blue = bangalore

http://www.google.com/trends/viz?q=bangalore,+chennai,+delhi,+mumbai&date=ytd&geo=us&graph=weekly_img&sort=0&sa=N

http://www.google.com/trends?q=bangalore%2C+chennai%2C+delhi%2C+mumbai&ctab=0&geo=us&geor=all&date=2010&sort=0

mumbai and delhi are only 74% and 77% of bangalore :tiasd: bangalore saw a dip when obama visited mumbai

i remember this thread too ppl were saying usa ppl donnoany other city than del and mum..

so what,u think kannadigas should get credit 4 that?

engineer.akash

January 25th, 2011, 07:13 PM

Complaint filed against HD Kumaraswamy, brother
Published: Tuesday, Jan 25, 2011, 22:46 IST
Place: Bangalore | Agency: PTI

A complaint was today filed with the Karnataka Lokayukta against JD(S) state president HD Kumaraswamy, his brother HD Balakrishna and family members for alleged possession of wealth disproportionate to their known sources of income to the tune of Rs167 crore when Kumaraswamy was the chief minister.

Karnataka Lok Ayukta Santosh Hegde said that a Dharwad-based advocate had filed the complaint.

"Yes we have received the complaint. But we have taken the complaint against the two (Kumaraswamy and Balakrishna) and not the other members as they are not public servants."

He said he was also examining whether Kumaraswamy and Balakrishna would come under the purview of public servants under Karnataka Lok Ayukta Act because the former is an MP and Balakrishna, an IAS officer had taken voluntary retirement from government service a few years back.

"We will examine this and also the complaint. If they come under the purview of the Lok Ayukta Act, we will hold the necessary enquiry," Hegde said.

On January 22, a Bangalore-based advocate had filed a complaint before the B Padmaraj Commission of Enquiry, seeking a probe into denotification of lands during the regimes of former chief ministers SM Krishna, HD Deve Gowda, his son Kumarswamy and N Dharam Singh.

DNA (http://www.dnaindia.com/bangalore/report_complaint-filed-against-hd-kumaraswamy-brother_1499122)

:banana: Thanks to Dharwad advocate,as expected North Karnataka backs BJP forever.

Bangalore geek where are you?Our wish comes true :cheers:

nandan_ks

January 25th, 2011, 07:17 PM

:dance2:

engineer.akash

January 25th, 2011, 07:22 PM

Cash reward for info on benami land in Bangalore: Yeddyurappa

Tuesday, January 25, 2011, 17:00 [IST]

Bangalore, Jan 25 (PTI) In a bid to unearthinformation on ''benami'' lands, the ruling BJP, which is facing the heat over alleged land scams, today said it would reward people who come forward with details on such properties.

Addressing a legislative party meeting here, Chief Minister B S Yeddyurappa said he is setting up a fund of Rs five crore in the budget for giving these cash rewards. The budget session is to be presented next month.

"According to me, benami lands in Bangalore are value dat Rs one lakh crore", Yeddyurappa said, adding, the government will confiscate such properties.

Advertisements would be put out in newspapers asking people to share information on ''benami'' lands. The value of the reward would be proportionate to the value of the property that they helped in identifying and confiscate.

Names of these whistle-blowers will not be disclosed and they will be rewarded in cash, he said.

Yeddyurappa said thousands of acres of ''benami'' land in Bangalore are held by politicians and others who are now waiting to sell them once the real estate prices go up.

"My desire is to present my last budget (fifth year of the Government) of the size of Rs one lakh crore. If we are able to get another Rs one lakh crore (by way of confiscating benami land), we would actually be able to make Bangalore andKarnataka a ''nandananvana'' (prosperous land)".

Yeddyurappa said his government would come out with abooklet detailing the alleged scams during the tenure of S M Krishna (Cong) and H D Kumaraswamy (JDS) as Chief Ministers and send it to all Parliament members.

He also challenged the Congress and the Opposition for an open three-day debate on various charges in the presence of 2000-3000 statesmen, experts and people keen on state''s development.

A ''benami'' land is transferred or registered in the name of a person but the consideration is paid by another.

PTIRS (http://news.oneindia.in/2011/01/25/cashreward-for-info-on-benami-land-in-bangaloreyeddyurapp-aid0126.html)

Awesome....Dhudh madake mast chance...hakro takath nimmadu ithar hindae banda food dho :banana:

Bangalore_Geek

January 25th, 2011, 07:29 PM

Complaint filed against HD Kumaraswamy, brother

DNA (http://www.dnaindia.com/bangalore/report_complaint-filed-against-hd-kumaraswamy-brother_1499122)

:banana: Thanks to Dharwad advocate,as expected North Karnataka backs BJP forever.

Bangalore geek where are you?Our wish comes true :cheers:

:)

Olle Kelsa maadhtaiddare bidi...

Now let us see how far this goes, or whether short public memory will allow things to cool down.... and hopefully people will think 10 times before fraudulent de-notification in future...

Bangalore_Geek

January 25th, 2011, 07:34 PM

Cash reward for info on benami land in Bangalore: Yeddyurappa

Tuesday, January 25, 2011, 17:00 [IST]

PTIRS (http://news.oneindia.in/2011/01/25/cashreward-for-info-on-benami-land-in-bangaloreyeddyurapp-aid0126.html)

Awesome....Dhudh madake mast chance...hakro takath nimmadu ithar hindae banda food dho :banana:

Guruve, nan hattira swalpa information ide, benaami land bagge. Nanage cash beDa, aadre idhu guaranteed irbeku, ashte:

Names of these whistle-blowers will not be disclosed

:)

engineer.akash

January 25th, 2011, 07:59 PM

:)

Olle Kelsa maadhtaiddare bidi...

Now let us see how far this goes, or whether short public memory will allow things to cool down.... and hopefully people will think 10 times before fraudulent de-notification in future...

Something good is happening in the state and at the center because the next government which comes to power will think twice before doing anything illegal.
Good that all goons will get exposed now:cheers:

Master of Disguise

January 26th, 2011, 04:59 AM

but US searches for word bombay are 40 % of bangalore. so mumbai+bombay 114 % push bangalore to second place. but still we beat artificial city delhi easily :banana:

yaaayy......so where's the party tonight...In shanghai, Beijing or New York or London or Singapore ...oh wait ..in Bangaluru as its better than all the cities I posted before..Self made idiots....haha...waise Gentem uncle what does artificial means in your dictionary??? :lol:

rakshit gowda

January 26th, 2011, 05:29 AM

yaaayy......so where's the party tonight...In shanghai, Beijing or New York or London or Singapore ...oh wait ..in Bangaluru as its better than all the cities I posted before..Self made idiots....haha...waise Gentem uncle what does artificial means in your dictionary??? :lol:

Dude, You know Gentem trolls here. Why do you want to feed him? Just ignore his comments.

engineer.akash

January 26th, 2011, 10:09 AM

Mast mast Enjoy maadi

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Lokayukta registers cases against HDK, kin
Bangalore, January 25, DHNS:

The Lokayukta on Tuesday registered cases against former chief minister H D Kumaraswamy and his brother H D Balakrishne Gowda under Prevention of Corruption Act, based on a complaint filed by an advocate from Kalaghatagi in Dharwad district.

“The complainant S T Teggihalli lodged a 90-page complaint with us on Tuesday evening. We registered the cases against Kumaraswamy and Balakrishne Gowda based on the complaint.

The complainant has named 13 persons, all family members of former prime minister H D Deve Gowda, as accused in the complaint. We rejected 11 names as they were not government officers or holding any government offices,” Lokayukta Justice N Santosh Hegde said.

He told Deccan Herald: “The case has been transferred to the Lokayukta police and investigation has begun. The police may register cases under various sections only if the contents demand. It will take some time for the officers to scrutinise the complaint. It is basically about assets disproportionate to known sources of income.”

Teggihalli has accused Kumaraswamy and his family members of attempting to bring down the BJP government.

“I decided to file the complaint, as I was fed up with the Gowda clan’s efforts to topple the government, though it has the people’s mandate,” he said.

Kumaraswamy should disclose the various sources of his income and those of his family members, he added.

Deve Gowda’s family assets

http://www.deccanherald.com/images/editor_images1/2011/01/26/CHART-550.jpg

DHNS (http://www.deccanherald.com/content/132129/lokayukta-registers-cases-against-hdk.html)

think-tank

January 26th, 2011, 10:53 AM

^^ It's even greater than 167 crores.

gentem

January 26th, 2011, 11:12 AM

Mast mast Enjoy maadi

Lokayukta registers cases against HDK, kin
Bangalore, January 25, DHNS:

DHNS (http://www.deccanherald.com/content/132129/lokayukta-registers-cases-against-hdk.html)

lokayuktha will present a weak case and destroy evidence against hdk.. instead CID should probe this

ullasavadan

January 26th, 2011, 11:36 AM

lokayuktha will present a weak case and destroy evidence against hdk.. instead CID should probe this

Lokayukta has already said that he needs to check whether this case jurisdiction comes under Lokayukta or not. He indicated that HDK is a MP and his brother has taken voluntary retirement and hence probably they do not come under lokayukta. So case is already dead.

gentem

January 26th, 2011, 12:44 PM

Yeddyurappa govt is set to clip guv's hold on varsities
TNN, Jan 26, 2011, 07.17am IST
BANGALORE: In a move clearly aimed at clipping the wings of the governor, who is also the chancellor of universities, the Karnataka government has quietly readied a legislation that will take away his powers in appointing vice-chancellors and overseeing the affairs of Mysore University and Dharwad University. These will now become innovative universities.

The cabinet headed by chief minister B S Yeddyurappa cleared the legislation to usher in the new governance structure for these universities earlier this month. The legislation will be tabled in the upcoming budget session.

The structure seems to be one way to get back at the governor who had rejected government's nominee for the post of Dharwad varsity VC. If passed, it'll be the first legislation where the governor has no powers to appoint VCs.

Read more: Yeddyurappa govt is set to clip guv's hold on varsities - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bangalore/Yeddyurappa-govt-is-set-to-clip-guvs-hold-on-varsities/articleshow/7364854.cms#ixzz1C8nEUijK

Governor hints at mediation, conciliation
TNN, Jan 26, 2011, 07.01am IST
BANGALORE: Governor H R Bhardwaj signed off on a conciliatory note at a function here on Tuesday: "Human beings are fallible. But that doesn't mean there is no room for conciliation. I'll go by consensus, mediation and conciliation."

While the governor refused to talk to mediapersons, he did make some rather pointed remarks during his inaugural speech on electoral reforms. Comparing politics to a railway compartment, Bhardwaj said: "People who enter will not allow anybody else to enter. It's very important to introduce amendments to laws from time to time. Every game must be played as per the rules. Democracy is under trial everywhere."

Read more: Governor hints at mediation, conciliation - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bangalore/Governor-hints-at-mediation-conciliation/articleshow/7363667.cms#ixzz1C8nOqNjI

elephant learns to dance :banana: