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SRG
August 10th, 2009, 03:52 AM
Went to Dallas earlier this week to do some shopping. Took some pics of shopping in Dallas, including Mockingbird Station, Highland Park Village, and NorthPark area. Mockingbird is a prime example of transit-oriented development, which I've talked about a lot. I wrote a lot more on my blog (http://downtownontherange.blogspot.com/2009/08/north-dallasshopping-and-riding-rails.html), but this is just the short version. Here are some of the pics I took, all of them are posted at my forums (http://oktalk.net/bb/index.php?topic=3531).

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ColorCrimson
August 10th, 2009, 08:42 AM
Went to Dallas earlier this week to do some shopping. Took some pics of shopping in Dallas, including Mockingbird Station, Highland Park Village, and NorthPark area. Mockingbird is a prime example of transit-oriented development, which I've talked about a lot. I wrote a lot more on my blog (http://downtownontherange.blogspot.com/2009/08/north-dallasshopping-and-riding-rails.html), but this is just the short version. Here are some of the pics I took, all of them are posted at my forums (http://oktalk.net/bb/index.php?topic=3531).

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g100/TheOkie/IMG00807.jpg



Isn't that where Patrizio's is?

SRG
August 10th, 2009, 09:50 AM
Yeah.

papa_spaz
August 10th, 2009, 07:02 PM
Who is the gal in the bluish dress sitting down by StarBucks? I need to meet her. :lol:

portyhead
August 10th, 2009, 07:16 PM
Awesome pics SRG! Thank you for givin people a taste of more than just downtown which usually disappoints as opposed to other parts of the city. :)

SRG
August 10th, 2009, 07:49 PM
Glad I could help show off some parts of Dallas we don't normally see..

TXLove
August 11th, 2009, 12:46 AM
Nice! thanks for sharing!

ein okc!
August 11th, 2009, 04:39 AM
cool pics. i'd heard so much about the dart but hadn't realized it was a subway, and not just typical light rail.

StevenW
August 13th, 2009, 03:23 AM
How was the public transit in Dallas? Did you ride?

SRG
August 13th, 2009, 06:45 AM
Yeah I rode from Mockingbird to NorthPark. I thought it was pretty decent.. the longest I had to wait was 5 minutes for a train coming back down to Mockingbird at 5 or so. I don't know if I liked the idea of getting on public transit with a shopping bag from Nordstrom's and Armani Exchange, but it beat hunting for a parking space in the garage. The crossing over the Central Expressway at NorthPark was pretty pedestrian-friendly.

I would have gone deeper into Dallas but I had to be back in OKC for a late dinner.

StevenW
August 14th, 2009, 12:12 AM
Yeah I rode from Mockingbird to NorthPark. I thought it was pretty decent.. the longest I had to wait was 5 minutes for a train coming back down to Mockingbird at 5 or so. I don't know if I liked the idea of getting on public transit with a shopping bag from Nordstrom's and Armani Exchange, but it beat hunting for a parking space in the garage. The crossing over the Central Expressway at NorthPark was pretty pedestrian-friendly.

I would have gone deeper into Dallas but I had to be back in OKC for a late dinner.

Cool. Yeah, 5 minutes ain't that bad of a wait.

SRG
August 14th, 2009, 12:37 AM
Yeah Dallas public transit is GREAT. Best in the south probably.

portyhead
August 14th, 2009, 01:21 AM
Yeah Dallas public transit is GREAT. Best in the south probably.

I'm sure some Atlanta folk will disagree with you about that but yeah, Dallas public transit is actually really good and getting better all the time. I'm glad to be from here because for me on the whole the city is pretty progressive and forward-thinking.

StevenW
August 14th, 2009, 02:30 AM
i've always been impressed with Dallas.

SRG
August 14th, 2009, 02:32 AM
I'm sure some Atlanta folk will disagree with you about that but yeah, Dallas public transit is actually really good and getting better all the time. I'm glad to be from here because for me on the whole the city is pretty progressive and forward-thinking.

I haven't ever ridden the MARTA. Been to Atlanta before, but I haven't had any reason to go in the last 5 years. I could be wrong but I don't think that MARTA is expanding as much as the DART and they haven't embraced the concept of transit-oriented development nearly as much as Dallas obviously has. Seems like the key difference here is that a majority of urban growth in Dallas is happening along the rails, whereas the majority of urban growth in Atlanta is happening along various streets named "Peachtree." Peachtree Rd, Peachtree Avenue, Peachtree Blvd, North Peachtree..whatever.

And then there's Houston, whole different ball game.. a lot more urban growth than both Atlanta and Dallas and much, much less organized. It's a kind of chaos you grow to love.

LSyd
August 14th, 2009, 02:41 PM
thanks for the pics. good to see the less often seen side of Dallas. i'll have to check this area out sometime. i plan on riding the rails one day (and only the rails).

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SRG
August 14th, 2009, 10:06 PM
LSyd, you could ride the TRE from DTD into Fort Worth, which I don't think you've gotten very many pics of. I could be wrong though. And of course, from Fort Worth you can ride the Heartland Flyer straight into DT OKC.. I've never done it but I really want to.

Geborgenheit
August 15th, 2009, 10:57 PM
Very good.

dmoor82
September 9th, 2009, 02:37 AM
Great pic's SRG!! I will be going to Dallas in about 3 weeks to visit a friend,He live south of Dallas,in Desoto but while I am there, I will take some pics! any suggestions on where to go in Dallas- to eat, shop? I havent been there in about 10 yrs!

AFONEGA1
September 10th, 2009, 01:49 AM
I haven't ever ridden the MARTA. Been to Atlanta before, but I haven't had any reason to go in the last 5 years. I could be wrong but I don't think that MARTA is expanding as much as the DART and they haven't embraced the concept of transit-oriented development nearly as much as Dallas obviously has. Seems like the key difference here is that a majority of urban growth in Dallas is happening along the rails, whereas the majority of urban growth in Atlanta is happening along various streets named "Peachtree." Peachtree Rd, Peachtree Avenue, Peachtree Blvd, North Peachtree..whatever.

And then there's Houston, whole different ball game.. a lot more urban growth than both Atlanta and Dallas and much, much less organized. It's a kind of chaos you grow to love.

If I may,I must correct you.Your statements are not quite accurate about what is going on in Atlanta.Much of the development has been centerd around transit development(MARTA).
Lindbergh Center Station was the first whiich started originally about 9 years ago,but in the last 5 years,it has really opened wide up.http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j305/pimpsquad27/lindbergh.jpg

Buckhead which has 2 stations continues to explode all around.Major retail,hotels,condo and most recently the "Streets of Buckhead" is billed as the next "Rodeo Drive of the South"http://www.streetsofbuckhead.com/

The Decatur Sation has transformed into a major destination as well.Soon as you come out of the station you surrounded by a a new renovated stylish plaza adjacent to new cafes, restaurants,retail shops,and condominiums smack dab in the middle of a town square.http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/08/ff/68/4.jpg


The Edgewood Station recieved a new "town square type development with over the "shop" residential offerings as well as lofts.Best Buy,Target,Kroger,Barnes&Nobles,and so many other retail shops are everywhere.http://www.sembler.com/gallery.php?id=7

So MOST of the growth is NOT going on on along Peachtree or any other Peachtree.

That said nice post.

SRG
September 10th, 2009, 09:23 PM
I'm underwhelmed.

AFONEGA1
September 10th, 2009, 09:59 PM
cool pics. i'd heard so much about the dart but hadn't realized it was a subway, and not just typical light rail.
I like the picture and the architecture of the one that has the Village Theater in it.That kinda Southwest Mission/Mediterranean Style is unique to the Southwest in America.You don't really see those style that much once you get past Louisiana going east.

Its not a "subway" its light rail.Subways are what "heavy rail" is.Light rail is slower with less capacity.Light rail is not "underground" like a subway.However Light rail is easier to implement due cost, completion time,and flexibility.Cities like Philly have both heavy rail and light rail.Usually the most effective combination.

portyhead
September 11th, 2009, 12:17 AM
Its not a "subway" its light rail.Subways are what "heavy rail" is.Light rail is slower with less capacity.Light rail is not "underground" like a subway.However Light rail is easier to implement due cost, completion time,and flexibility.Cities like Philly have both heavy rail and light rail.Usually the most effective combination.

Actually part of it is a subway. Any mass transit rail line be it heavy or light rail that goes underground is referred to as a subway. Most people only relate it to heavy rail because that is traditionally what subways have been.

AFONEGA1
September 11th, 2009, 12:44 AM
Actually part of it is a subway. Any mass transit rail line be it heavy or light rail that goes underground is referred to as a subway. Most people only relate it to heavy rail because that is traditionally what subways have been.
Well if im incorrect then fine.I was just responding because usually when people think Subway,they hardly ever think of a "light rail system".Light rail cannot operate in large parts of underground like heavy rail.I believe(maybe)that CityPlace is the only station that is actually underground.The system itself is above ground on street level.Subway basically is a term for "underground".However it is not the most accurate in terms of describing what types of transportaion options the city has.Coming from and having ridden light rail and heavy rail around the world,subway just does not come to mind as you stated and I concur.

SRG
September 11th, 2009, 05:52 AM
I like the picture and the architecture of the one that has the Village Theater in it.That kinda Southwest Mission/Mediterranean Style is unique to the Southwest in America.You don't really see those style that much once you get past Louisiana going east.

Its not a "subway" its light rail.Subways are what "heavy rail" is.Light rail is slower with less capacity.Light rail is not "underground" like a subway.However Light rail is easier to implement due cost, completion time,and flexibility.Cities like Philly have both heavy rail and light rail.Usually the most effective combination.

The part I took pictures of, at Mockingbird Station, is subway.

AFONEGA1
September 11th, 2009, 06:18 AM
The part I took pictures of, at Mockingbird Station, is subway.
Well I like the pics you posted.I've really only been in Downtown Dallas and a few of the most popular places.I have not seen some of those areas.

SRG
September 11th, 2009, 05:06 PM
Thanks I appreciate it. Yeah, Downtown Dallas sucks, but so do most downtowns. Although the Big D isn't as near and dear to me as OKC and Houston, Dallas as a city is still an awesome place that I really enjoy. You have to get to know it better to like it.

AFONEGA1
September 11th, 2009, 06:16 PM
Thanks I appreciate it. Yeah, Downtown Dallas sucks, but so do most downtowns. Although the Big D isn't as near and dear to me as OKC and Houston, Dallas as a city is still an awesome place that I really enjoy. You have to get to know it better to like it.
OKC is a hidden jewel.Its a nice city.I have some family there.My cousins and her husband bought a house Downtown just a few blocks from the Capitol.The house was built in the 1920's.It was owned by some rich family.When they bought it,it was a mess.I think its off 11th street?I cannot remember.It was an old historic area that was going through a rebirth in 1990s.I have not been since 1998 so I'm sure its much nicer now.(It was nice then).

SRG
September 11th, 2009, 07:46 PM
The last 10 years has been a remarkable revitalization for OKC's center city. 15 years ago the areas close to downtown were just crime-ridden cesspools of blight, today it's just amazing how far it's come, especially hot areas like Bricktown and Deep Deuce.

gwiATLeman
September 11th, 2009, 08:17 PM
I haven't ever ridden the MARTA. Been to Atlanta before, but I haven't had any reason to go in the last 5 years. I could be wrong but I don't think that MARTA is expanding as much as the DART and they haven't embraced the concept of transit-oriented development nearly as much as Dallas obviously has. Seems like the key difference here is that a majority of urban growth in Dallas is happening along the rails, whereas the majority of urban growth in Atlanta is happening along various streets named "Peachtree." Peachtree Rd, Peachtree Avenue, Peachtree Blvd, North Peachtree..whatever.

And then there's Houston, whole different ball game.. a lot more urban growth than both Atlanta and Dallas and much, much less organized. It's a kind of chaos you grow to love.


Then how would you possibly know where the growth is in Atlanta?

As far as a TOD's go, the Lindbergh example is a much more ambitious TOD development, already containing 700 housing units, 1 million sf of office space, and retail. In addition adjacent development (across the main street) has added over 1000 housing units in the last five years.

At any rate, I really like that Mockingbird development.