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briker August 20th, 2009, 11:08 AM Fast Facts
Full name: Caster Semenya
Born: January 7, 1991
Birthplace: Polokwane/Pietersburg, South Africa
Honors: Gold Medal for 800 meters, IAAF World Championships in Berlin, August 17, 2009
Career Highlight: Gold Medal for 800 meters, IAAF World Championships in Berlin, August 17, 2009
Caster Semenya is a middle-distance runner from South Africa. Semenya vastly improved her running times in the 800 and 1,500 meter races at the African Junior Championships in July, 2009.
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Semenya nails 800m
2009-08-19
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Golden girl (AP)
Berlin - South African teenager Caster Semenya won the women's world 800 metres title with a crushing performance on Wednesday.
Powerfully-built but beautifully relaxed in motion, the 18-year-old clocked 1 minute, 55.45 seconds for the year's fastest time and a personal best by more than a second.
Kenyan world champion and Olympic silver medallist Janeth Jepkosgei was more than 15 metres adrift for second in 1:57.90.
Fast-closing Jenny Meadows of Britain snatched third, three-hundredths of a second behind Jepkosgei in another personal best.
The International Association of Athetics Federations (IAAF) allowed Semenya to run with the gender test still ongoing, spokesperson Nick Davies said earlier on Wednesday.
"It would be wrong today to take a decision to withdraw an athlete," he said.
Officials also decided to keep Semenya away from the traditional post-race news conference.
briker August 20th, 2009, 11:11 AM Caster: Mission accomplished
2009-08-20
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Berlin - Everything went according to plan in Caster Semenya's gold medal winning performance at the World Athletics championships in Berlin on Wednesday, the South African athletic star said.
"That's the way we planned it," the country's first medallist for six years, said as the country celebrated her 800m gold medal on Wednesday night.
The 18-year-old a tore away from a quality field to post a time of one minute 55.45 seconds, the fastest in the world this year and only 1.44 seconds off the World Junior record set by Pamela Jelimo when she similarly dominated the world scene in 2008.
Following the same tactics that had brought success in the previous two rounds the Polokwane-based youngster tucked in behind defending world champion Janeth Jepkosgei as they covered the first 200m in 26.81 seconds.
In anticipation of the bell Semenya moved to the Kenyan's shoulder and took the lead as the bell in 56.83 seconds.
By the back straight there seemed little doubt as to the winner with only Jepkosgei and the Ukraine's Yuliya Krevsun in close contact as the South African wound up the pace to open a 10m gap with 80m to go.
A typical late charge by Britain's Jennifer Meadows outran the tiring Krevsun to take the bronze and just failing to catch the Kenyan.
"That was the way coach (Michael Seme) and I planned it, everything was as he told me," said Semenya after she left the stadium.
Referring to the worldwide controversy questioning her gender, she said "I didn't open my mind to negative things; these things just made me stronger for the race".
The race may have been decisive, but the aftermath was filled with controversy. After Caster's on track celebrations where there were reports of booing from some of the German crowd, the South African was whisked away from any media contact and into doping control.
Semenya did not appear for the post race conference, but IAAF Secretary General did confirm that investigations would be made into the gender allegations.
The IAAF have a 12 man medical commission, that by coincidence includes a South African doctor, and they are in contact with doctors in South Africa. They will be investigating the situation and will have results in two to four weeks. There will be a medal ceremony on Thursday.
Semenya's result is even more remarkable given the gender controversy the teenager has been submitted to in recent days.
This complex set of questioning and testing must surely impact more than any other question put to a woman.
The fact that it has been necessary to undertake this so close to a major championship beggars the question as to why this was not investigated by officialdom after the 1:56.72 World leading time in the African Junior Championships. This event, as with the 2008 World Junior Championships, and Commonwealth Youth Games are all held under the same set of IAAF rules.
Pre-race suggestions that she should be prevent her from competing was determined as unreasonable as no judgement or outcome had been received.
Ironically this is the same stadium where similar questions were raised on Polish sprinter Stella Walsh who win Silver at the 1936 Olympics. Walsh who also won gold in the 1932 Los Angeles Olympics was found after her death in 1988 to have "ambiguous genitalia" and to be more male than female.
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rulani August 21st, 2009, 05:53 PM i dont see something popping there.
SA BOY August 21st, 2009, 06:01 PM Go girl you make us proud and fuck them all, if you sit to pee you are a girl
rulani August 21st, 2009, 06:10 PM and if its not hanging down there, then u r a chick.
Reggae Boyz Ja August 21st, 2009, 06:42 PM and if its not hanging down there, then u r a chick.
Their is something called a strap-on..She takes it off during the race, and pops it back in after..
briker August 22nd, 2009, 09:18 AM Semenya saga heads for UN
2009-08-21
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Johannesburg - A complaint would be lodged with the UN High Commissioner of Human Rights over the "undermining of rights and privacy" of South African athlete Caster Semenya.
It would be lodged by the Portfolio Committee on Sport and Recreation soon.
Chairperson Butana Komphela said the commissioner needed to investigate the "gross and severe undermining of rights and privacy" by the International Athletics Association Federation (IAAF).
Semenya's gender has been under scrutiny since her arrival in Berlin for the World Athletics Championship where she won a gold medal in the women's 800m race.
The IAAF has asked for Semenya to undergo a gender verification test as there were doubts about her gender, given her muscular physique.
"The humiliation of Semenya was a sign of sexist action by IAAF as it undermined the achievements of women," Komphela said in a statement.
"It is a very gross action that gives an impression that the IAAF only recognises good things when they are done by men."
He said it was unfortunate that Semenya's case arose at a time when South Africa profiled the achievements of women and promoted women's rights in August.
*He said there were many white female athletes participating in the competition who resembled men but were not subjected to gender tests.
Khompela slammed the IAAF's action as sexist and racist saying: "Just because she is black and she surpassed her European competitors, there is all this uproar".
"When Caster comes back home we will welcome her as a heroine, she is our heroine, despite all the controversy."
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* I do disagree with Komphela on this statement. We can't make evertyhing out to be racist. That's an angry and ignorant statement- which exposes his racist attitude- for many white female athletes have in the past also been humiliated in this way. Semenya got support from all south africans, not just black ones. It's sad that people are now also jumping the racism wagon after all this bitterness. Give the girl her due; she is exceptionally good.
Project Director September 10th, 2009, 03:09 PM this oak`s back in the news today, cant wait for the reaction once the news is confirmed either way:ohno:
SA BOY September 10th, 2009, 06:38 PM Fuuuuuuuck this is big
Semenya: The secret is out - report
September 10 2009 at 06:16PM
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World athletics is in crisis over the gender of Caster Semenya after tests revealed the South African world champion has no womb or ovaries.
The Daily Telegraph reports the International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF) is ready to disqualify Semenya from future events and advise her to have immediate surgery because her condition carries grave health risks. They have also not ruled out stripping Semenya of her 800m world championships gold medal.
Tests conducted during the world athletics championships in Berlin last month, where Semenya's gender became the subject of heated debate following her victory in the 800m, revealed evidence she is a hermaphrodite, someone with both male and female sexual characteristics.
Project Director September 10th, 2009, 08:18 PM JA boet, works.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2631482/Runner-is-a-hermaphrodite.html
if your not prepared for human nature , your not prepared.
Durbsboi September 11th, 2009, 09:54 AM Apparently that article is bullshit or so claim the IAAF, the test results are out but it has to be checked but an indepent pvt doctor.
herb21 September 11th, 2009, 11:25 AM f*cking aussies, they were the original syndicaters (is that the right word) off the story
juzzy September 11th, 2009, 05:03 PM those aussie bastards... i wish they would just stick to their sheep...country of ancestoral criminals... if they are not winning they are moaning...
DennisRodman97 September 11th, 2009, 06:50 PM Semenya's Gender Test Results Are In
Posted Sep 10, 2009 8:09 PM By The Associated Press(AP)Print Text Size A AAMONACO (Sept. 11) - The IAAF said Friday it has received the results of gender tests on South African runner Caster Semenya but is still reviewing them and will not issue any final decision until November.
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FILE - In this Aug. 19, 2009, file photo, South Africa's Caster Semenya celebrates after winning the gold medal in the final of the Women's 800m at the World Athletics Championships in Berlin. (AP Photo/Anja Niedringhaus, File)
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FILE - In this Aug. 19, 2009, file photo, South Africa's Caster Semenya celebrates after winning the gold medal in the final of the Women's 800m at the World Athletics Championships in Berlin. (AP Photo/Anja Niedringhaus, File)
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FILE - In this Thursday, Aug. 20, 2009 file photo, South Africa's gold medal winner Caster Semenya displays her medal after the ceremony for the Women's 800m final at the World Athletics Championships in Berlin. . (AP Photo/Markus Schreiber, File)
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JOHANNESBURG, SOUTH AFRICA - SEPTEMBER 7: (SOUTH AFRICA, UAE, BRAZIL OUT) South African National athletics coach, Wilfred Daniels, poses during an interview with a local newspaper, September 7, 2009 in Johannesburg, South Africa. Daniels has quit Athletics South Africa (ASA) over the "repulsive handling" of the Caster Semenya gender debacle. Daniels resigned from all South African Athletics bodies in a letter sent to the ASA. He has been the head coach of SA teams since 1993. (Photo by Foto24/Gallo Images/Getty Images) *** Local Caption *** Wilfred Daniels
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JOHANNESBURG, SOUTH AFRICA - JULY 30: (SOUTH AFRICA, UAE, BRAZIL OUT) South African National athletics coach, Wilfred Daniels, poses at an athletics stadium, July 30, 2009 in Johannesburg, South Africa. Daniels has quit Athletics South Africa (ASA) over the "repulsive handling" of the Caster Semenya gender debacle. Daniels resigned from all South African Athletics bodies in a letter sent to the ASA. He has been the head coach of SA teams since 1993. (Photo by Foto24/Gallo Images/Getty Images) *** Local Caption *** Wilfred Daniels
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JOHANNESBURG, SOUTH AFRICA - JULY 30: (SOUTH AFRICA, UAE, BRAZIL OUT) South African National athletics coach, Wilfred Daniels, poses at an athletics stadium, July 30, 2009 in Johannesburg, South Africa. Daniels has quit Athletics South Africa (ASA) over the "repulsive handling" of the Caster Semenya gender debacle. Daniels resigned from all South African Athletics bodies in a letter sent to the ASA. He has been the head coach of SA teams since 1993. (Photo by Foto24/Gallo Images/Getty Images) *** Local Caption *** Wilfred Daniels
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JOHANNESBURG, SOUTH AFRICA - JULY 30: (SOUTH AFRICA, UAE, BRAZIL OUT) South African National athletics coach, Wilfred Daniels, poses at an athletics stadium, July 30, 2009 in Johannesburg, South Africa. Daniels has quit Athletics South Africa (ASA) over the "repulsive handling" of the Caster Semenya gender debacle. Daniels resigned from all South African Athletics bodies in a letter sent to the ASA. He has been the head coach of SA teams since 1993. (Photo by Foto24/Gallo Images/Getty Images) *** Local Caption *** Wilfred Daniels
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POLOKWANE, SOUTH AFRICA - AUGUST 30: (SOUTH AFRICA, UAE, BRAZIL OUT) Caster Semenya greets the crowd during the street parade to celebrate her return to her home town of Masehlong village on August 30, 2009 in Polokwane, South Africa. South Africans have rallied behind Semenya in a national show of support sparked by an announcement last week by the governing body of athletics that she would have to undergo a battery of tests to verify her gender. (Photo by City Press/Gallo Images/Getty Images) *** Local Caption *** Caster Semenya
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POLOKWANE, SOUTH AFRICA - AUGUST 30: (SOUTH AFRICA, UAE, BRAZIL OUT) South African athlete Caster Semenya gestures outside a hut at her home town of Masehlong village on August 30, 2009 in Polokwane, South Africa. South Africans have rallied behind Semenya in a national show of support sparked by an announcement last week by the governing body of athletics that she would have to undergo a battery of tests to verify her gender. (Photo by City Press/Gallo Images/Getty Images) *** Local Caption *** Caster Semenya
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JOHANNESBURG, SOUTH AFRICA - AUGUST 24: (SOUTH AFRICA, UAE, BRAZIL OUT) South African athlete Caster Semenya poses outside the ASA offices in Rosebank on August 24, 2009 in Johannesburg, South Africa. South Africans have rallied behind Semenya in a national show of support sparked by an announcement last week by the governing body of athletics that she would have to undergo a battery of tests to verify her gender. (Photo by City Press/Gallo Images/Getty Images) *** Local Caption *** Caster Semenya
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POLOKWANE, SOUTH AFRICA - AUGUST 30: (SOUTH AFRICA, UAE, BRAZIL OUT) Caster Semenya waves to the crowd during the street parade to celebrate her return to her home town of Masehlong village on August 30, 2009 in Polokwane, South Africa. South Africans have rallied behind Semenya in a national show of support sparked by an announcement last week by the governing body of athletics that she would have to undergo a battery of tests to verify her gender. (Photo by City Press/Gallo Images/Getty Images) *** Local Caption *** Caster Semenya
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More: Semenya Drops Out of Race in South Africa
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The International Association of Athletics Federations did not confirm or deny Australian newspaper reports that the recently crowned women's world 800-meter champion has male and female sexual organs.
"We would like to emphasize that these should not be considered as official statements by the IAAF," the federation said in a statement regarding the reports that first appeared in News Limited and Fairfax newspapers.
The Australian newspaper reported in its Friday edition that medical reports on the 18-year-old Semenya indicate she has no ovaries, but rather has internal male testes, which are producing large amounts of testosterone.
"We can officially confirm that gender verification test results will be examined by a group of medical experts," the IAAF said in a written statement. "No decision on the case will be communicated until the IAAF has had the opportunity to complete this examination. We do not expect to make a final decision on this case before the next meeting of the IAAF Council which takes place in Monaco on November 20-21."
After dominating her race at the world championships in Berlin last month, Semenya underwent blood and chromosome tests, as well as a gynecological examination.
Earlier, in an e-mail to The Associated Press, IAAF spokesman Nick Davies said Thursday he couldn't confirm the Australian news reports.
"I simply haven't seen the results," Davies said. "We have received the results from Germany, but they now need to be examined by a group of experts and we will not be in a position to speak to the athlete about them for at least a few weeks.
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"After that, depending on the results, we will meet privately with the athlete to discuss further action."
Semenya's father, Jacob, expressed anger when contacted by the AP on Friday morning, saying people who insinuate his daughter is not a woman "are sick. They are crazy."
He said he had not been told anything by the IAAF, Athletics South Africa or his daughter.
"I know nothing," he said.
Davies said the newspaper's report "should be treated with caution."
The IAAF has said Semenya probably would keep her medal because the case was not related to a doping matter.
"Our legal advice is that, if she proves to have an advantage because of the male hormones, then it will be extremely difficult to strip the medal off her, since she has not cheated," Davies wrote to the AP. "She was naturally made that way, and she was entered in Berlin by her team and accepted by the IAAF. But let's wait and see once we have the final decision."
Leonard Chuene, the president of Athletics South Africa, told the AP that all he has heard from the IAAF is that the test results will be available in November.
"The results are not in the country yet, so we cannot comment on anything," Chuene said.
Associated Press writer Donna Bryson in Johannesburg and AP Sports Writer Howard Fendrich in New York contributed to this report.
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SA BOY September 12th, 2009, 08:28 AM I really feel sorry for this poor girl as this is a stigma that will haunt her for ever. Badly handeld by all concerned (SA Governmnet, ASA, IAAF etc) and to politisise this like woodwork champ Malema did is scandelous.
I hope she carries on competing somehow as she is an inspiration to others
ExSydney September 12th, 2009, 09:47 AM those aussie bastards... i wish they would just stick to their sheep...country of ancestoral criminals... if they are not winning they are moaning...
The only thing the Australians are guilty of is reporting the facts.
Obviously the Daily Telegraph reporter has a high contact in the IAAF(He was correct in saying the IAAF was conducting a gender test on Semenya),and I will guarantee you that this story is 100% correct when the IAAF release its findings.
This story is not wrong.
The guilt lies completley with SA Athletics.To let a person get to this level,and with the level of gender suspicion ALL HER LIFE in South Africa,blame your own...
How the hell can she get to that level of competition without the correct testing is beyond me...
Blame your own......not the messenger..
reca September 12th, 2009, 10:01 AM I never taught semenya is a half man and woman. No wonder she won the game
Diggerdog September 12th, 2009, 12:28 PM F*ck off Sydney - what business is it of yours, and your press, anyway?
Apart from just trying to sling mud, which is what your press do - get out of it, you twat.
ExSydney September 12th, 2009, 01:12 PM F*ck off Sydney - what business is it of yours, and your press, anyway?
Apart from just trying to sling mud, which is what your press do - get out of it, you twat.
Whats the difference?..An Australian journo reports it now or if he didnt ,the IAAF will report it later.
Get your head out of the sand....mate.
juzzy September 12th, 2009, 03:39 PM Whats the difference?..An Australian journo reports it now or if he didnt ,the IAAF will report it later.
Get your head out of the sand....mate.
the aussies instigated it when they arnt even involved... australia dont even have any athletics stars so why stick their finger in something they should have no say over...
Diggerdog September 12th, 2009, 05:01 PM So your argument is what - you should just report any controversial crap because if you dont, someone else will?
Way to go, free press.
It is just malicious, it is not like you guys are even involved, but you like to get your 2 cents in as long as it makes some other country look bad.
And in this case you are helping to destroy the life of a young village girl who has no idea why she is being torn to pieces.
My head isn't in the sand, and I am not your mate.
Like I said, F*ck off already back to your section - you can bitch about SA all you want over there...
DennisRodman97 September 12th, 2009, 05:09 PM whatever they find out ...and what aussies reported is not true....just take them to court and file for defamation of character!
ExSydney September 14th, 2009, 03:31 AM So your argument is what - you should just report any controversial crap because if you dont, someone else will?
Way to go, free press.
It is just malicious, it is not like you guys are even involved, but you like to get your 2 cents in as long as it makes some other country look bad.
And in this case you are helping to destroy the life of a young village girl who has no idea why she is being torn to pieces.
My head isn't in the sand, and I am not your mate.
Like I said, F*ck off already back to your section - you can bitch about SA all you want over there...
Rumours around Caster have been around since her school years.
Its a disgrace that the ASA have let it gone this far.
Im not blaming Caster,in fact,most Australians feel VERY sorry for her.
My point is stop blaming the IAAF,stop blaming a journalist for doing his job,blame you own.Your ASA is a complete joke to let this get to where it is right now.
As I said before ,Semenya rumours existed before any Australian newspaper report...Take this from a South African journalist on a SA website on the 25 July 2009,before the World Champs in Berlin
http://blogs.sport24.co.za/runbird/Middle-Distance-Maiden
"....Caster Semenya is an interesting revelation. Interesting because the 18 year old was born as a hermaphrodite and, through a series of tests, has been classified as female............"
How the hell did he know??....
As I said ...your ASA have got some questions to answer..
Diggerdog September 14th, 2009, 06:00 AM Sure they do...pretty much from local athletics all the way to IAAF should have a look at themselves.
And media are bastard sharks in general anyway, and dont care about the well-being of someone as long as it is news.
We just get annoyed with the aus press because they habitually and continually either invent bad news about SA, or push there way in to a story that has nothing to do with them, and just shout as loud as possible.
If they published even a ratio of 1/50 good/bad news where SA is concerned, that would be ok.
But its more like 0/370.
Contrast that to SA press coverage relating to Aus - and any day of the week you can got to Iafrica.com, and see aus news - invariably good.
We have headlines like 'Aussies gallant in defeat' and the like - the corresponding headline in your neck of the woods is 'Bakkies Botha banned', followed by a scathing report on how dirty we are, and finishing with a brief mention that SA won the game - by cheating and dirty play, of course...
haggiesm September 14th, 2009, 10:49 AM ^^ well summed up. totally agree.
juzzy September 14th, 2009, 05:30 PM Sure they do...pretty much from local athletics all the way to IAAF should have a look at themselves.
And media are bastard sharks in general anyway, and dont care about the well-being of someone as long as it is news.
We just get annoyed with the aus press because they habitually and continually either invent bad news about SA, or push there way in to a story that has nothing to do with them, and just shout as loud as possible.
If they published even a ratio of 1/50 good/bad news where SA is concerned, that would be ok.
But its more like 0/370.
Contrast that to SA press coverage relating to Aus - and any day of the week you can got to Iafrica.com, and see aus news - invariably good.
We have headlines like 'Aussies gallant in defeat' and the like - the corresponding headline in your neck of the woods is 'Bakkies Botha banned', followed by a scathing report on how dirty we are, and finishing with a brief mention that SA won the game - by cheating and dirty play, of course...
so so true... thats probably the one reason that would keep me from living in oz...yes the country is beautiful... but i couldnt live in a country where people are so quick to judge and focussed on others negatives...and not to mention the fact that they think they are gods gift to the rest of the world...no thanks
there i did it...exactly what the aussies do...run your country down
ExSydney September 14th, 2009, 09:56 PM so so true... thats probably the one reason that would keep me from living in oz...yes the country is beautiful... but i couldnt live in a country where people are so quick to judge and focussed on others negatives...and not to mention the fact that they think they are gods gift to the rest of the world...no thanks
there i did it...exactly what the aussies do...run your country down
F..k ..You guys speak some crap...
Pule September 14th, 2009, 10:24 PM ^^ feeling guilty? Remember Aussies claiming that our stadium won't be ready for FIFA world cup and that they ready to host it on our behalf. SA does give the aussies something to talk about.
haggiesm September 15th, 2009, 09:34 AM so so true... thats probably the one reason that would keep me from living in oz...yes the country is beautiful... but i couldnt live in a country where people are so quick to judge and focussed on others negatives...and not to mention the fact that they think they are gods gift to the rest of the world...no thanks
there i did it...exactly what the aussies do...run your country down
dude, i'm as proudly south african as anyone here, but that is just plain bias. every country has dishonest media. you can't complain about a people group or country being judgmental and then judge and entire country based on their media. have you ever been to oz? i found the people to be warm and friendly and it makes no difference to them whether you're south african or not. of course there are exceptions just like in sa and like us their media likes to target certain stories.
Durbsboi September 15th, 2009, 09:37 AM media should be catergorised on their own and not be tagged to a country, they are their own virus, lol.
I heard now on radio that shes comtemplating suicide???
Well if she is, she isnt doing it the right way by going public with it.
Diggerdog September 15th, 2009, 10:09 AM Durbsboi, back off the girl.
As if she is the one spreading rumours about suicide - it is the press again - she is 18 years old - none of this is her fault.
Durbsboi September 15th, 2009, 11:08 AM I was being sarcastic at the media......... chill dude
clive3300 September 15th, 2009, 12:52 PM so so true... thats probably the one reason that would keep me from living in oz...yes the country is beautiful... but i couldnt live in a country where people are so quick to judge and focussed on others negatives...and not to mention the fact that they think they are gods gift to the rest of the world...no thanks
there i did it...exactly what the aussies do...run your country down
Aussies are no quicker to judge than anyone else. However largely they do think Australia is Gods Own Country. However most people in the SA forum think the same about SA.
ExSydney September 15th, 2009, 02:00 PM There is no doubt the ASA will have a lot of explaining to do...
http://www.reuters.com/article/sportsNews/idUSTRE58E23V20090915
"...........Retired American track and field star Carl Lewis has blamed South African athletics authorities for the predicament of the nation's world champion Caster Semenya.............."
ExSydney September 15th, 2009, 02:03 PM ^^ feeling guilty? Remember Aussies claiming that our stadium won't be ready for FIFA world cup and that they ready to host it on our behalf. SA does give the aussies something to talk about.
No I dont remember...but who gives a shit?.....Personally I think the 2010 Stadiums are incredible with Soccer City being a just host for a final.and Cape Town...wow!!!..I wish Australia could build something in the like,but our sport,especially in the South is dominated by the AFL and they require large oval grounds(ie:Cricket shaped grounds)...
juzzy September 15th, 2009, 07:41 PM dude, i'm as proudly south african as anyone here, but that is just plain bias. every country has dishonest media. you can't complain about a people group or country being judgmental and then judge and entire country based on their media. have you ever been to oz? i found the people to be warm and friendly and it makes no difference to them whether you're south african or not. of course there are exceptions just like in sa and like us their media likes to target certain stories.
thats why i said at the end that i did what the aussies do....
and no i havnt been to oz but i plan on going next year as i previously mentioned
that i think the country is beautiful... but my opinion that i wont live on oz coz of the judgemental attitudes was a generalization... and i meant it in a over the top way.
...i simply wont live in oz coz i dont want that type of media around me...and thats my opinion, and if the rugby team are anything like the people then you got no chance of me going there:lol:
juzzy September 15th, 2009, 07:42 PM F..k ..You guys speak some crap...
then fvck off back to your own forum
juzzy September 15th, 2009, 07:44 PM here is a pic of the current womens world record holder in the 800m... did they test her...coz this chic definitely has a penis
http://srocespodogona.blox.pl/resource/kratochvilova.jpg
haggiesm September 16th, 2009, 12:59 PM thats why i said at the end that i did what the aussies do....
and no i havnt been to oz but i plan on going next year as i previously mentioned
that i think the country is beautiful... but my opinion that i wont live on oz coz of the judgemental attitudes was a generalization... and i meant it in a over the top way.
...i simply wont live in oz coz i dont want that type of media around me...and thats my opinion, and if the rugby team are anything like the people then you got no chance of me going there:lol:
you'll be surprised by the people, i think. and the media is no different from ours.
juzzy September 16th, 2009, 09:21 PM you'll be surprised by the people, i think. and the media is no different from ours.
im really excited to go , but our media might be the same but were not as outspoken and shit stirring
ExSydney September 19th, 2009, 11:57 PM Go on....Keep blaming the Aussies..
http://sport.iafrica.com/news/1934221.htm
"I lied - Chuene"
You got to love this comment
....... he was worried what the reaction would be from politicians in South Africa if he "withdrew a black South African woman who had a chance of winning gold"..................
Diggerdog September 20th, 2009, 01:59 AM Dude, honestly, f*ck off already.
We already know the whole thing is a balls up, we never said ASA was blameless.
It has nothing to do with the aussies - that was and is our point - you had to get the bad news out there as fast as possible, and it is irritating in the extreme because you are not involved in the affair at all.
rosn19 September 20th, 2009, 02:03 AM she's ugly
Durbsboi September 21st, 2009, 11:30 AM ^^lol, any woman that looks like a man would be ugly :crazy:
rosn19 September 21st, 2009, 03:58 PM ^^lol, any woman that looks like a man would be ugly :crazy:
Why does she look the way she does?:runaway:
t-bang! September 21st, 2009, 04:09 PM ^^get out and make your own research!
rosn19 September 21st, 2009, 04:23 PM ^^get out and make your own research!
its not like i care that much, i rather just make my own conlcusions
Kwazimoto September 21st, 2009, 07:27 PM Then why did you ask in the first place?
rosn19 September 21st, 2009, 09:18 PM Then why did you ask in the first place?
ughh, i didnt say that i did not care at all, i said not that much, any way, this is getting retarded, lets not go on with it please
Kwazimoto September 21st, 2009, 10:14 PM Oh you notice
haggiesm September 22nd, 2009, 09:19 AM why do you look the way you do? why do i look the way i do. we could discuss this from a philosophical or a genetic angle and would be pointless either way because her looks have nothing to do with any of this.
ZATUGA November 19th, 2009, 09:09 PM The International Association of Athletics Federations has agreed that the South African runner Caster Semenya will keep her 800 metres world title, the country's sports ministry said today.
The 18-year-old Semenya, who stormed to victory in August's world championships in Berlin, underwent gender verification tests this summer in South Africa and Germany and a panel of experts has been studying the results for the IAAF.
South Africa's government, Semenya's lawyers and the IAAF had reached total agreement that she will retain her gold medal, title and prize money because she has been found "innocent of any wrong", the ministry said in a statement.
Agreement was also reached with the IAAF that scientific gender tests conducted on Semenya will be treated as confidential and there will be no public announcement of the results.
The IAAF said it could not confirm the details in the statement but said it had accepted the resignation of the Athletics South Africa president, Leonard Chuene, from the IAAF Council and had opened a formal investigation into the handling of the Semenya affair by Chuene and the ASA.
Chuene and his board have been suspended by South Africa's Olympic governing body pending an investigation after Chuene admitted he lied when he denied Semenya had undergone gender tests before the world championships.
The sports ministry said Semenya would decide her future on her own. "The implications of the scientific findings on Caster's health and life going forward will be analysed by Caster and she will make her own decision on her future. Whatever she decides, ours is to respect her decision."
They had also requested that the IAAF apologise for the way the Semenya saga had been handled. "Their response is: 'It is deeply regrettable that information of a confidential nature entered the public domain.' The IAAF is adamant that the public discourse did not originate with them."
Australia's Daily Telegraph, citing an unnamed source, reported in September that Semenya was a hermaphrodite with both male and female sexual characteristics. The IAAF has not confirmed the report.
Semenya and family members say the runner is female and that publicity surrounding the case has caused hardships. South Africans have reacted angrily to the case and the country's ruling African National Congress has denounced the IAAF and the ASA for their handling of the matter.
source http://www.guardian.co.uk
Ginuwine November 19th, 2009, 10:13 PM so is this person a dude or girl or just a transvestite?
Durbsboi November 20th, 2009, 08:40 AM well if she races in the future then shes a chick, but if he doesnt, then his a dude.
PP Girls November 20th, 2009, 01:28 PM :dunno:But she can also be both. She has to go for an opperation to get it (not sure what) fixed... Shame. I really do feel sorry for her...
myirakazi November 20th, 2009, 02:43 PM the human body is soo complex!!!
they only have male and female in athletics when there are soo many people who fall in between....
are they going to test all athletes?
or are just going to decide that only the so called ugly /muscular ones get tested?
that doesnt sound fair at all!!
Diggerdog November 20th, 2009, 03:08 PM Mmm, this is all rather nasty, with the tasteless and predictable jokes one would expect. No real support for the girl at the centre of this cluster-fuck.
No fault of her own.
She won a gold medal for South Africa - I dont care if she raced as a fucking Zebra!
We need all the gold we can get...
Ginuwine November 20th, 2009, 03:54 PM After Iaaf let caster keep her gold medal, one thing is fo sho she will have two things dangling from her body :D
ZATUGA March 31st, 2010, 10:17 PM Caster Semenya's comeback statement in full
guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 30 March 2010
The following statement was issued today by Caster Semenya, the 800m world champion, to announce her return to competition:
"Since my victory in the female 800 meter event at the Berlin World Championships in August last year, I have been subjected to unwarranted and invasive scrutiny of the most intimate and private details of my being. Some of the occurrences leading up to and immediately following the Berlin World Championships have infringed on not only my rights as an athlete but also my fundamental and human rights including my rights to dignity and privacy.
"However, notwithstanding the infringement of my rights I have attempted (against all natural instincts to move to assert my rights) to understand and sympathise with the institutional shortcomings within the International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF). To this end, upon my return from the Berlin World Championships, I instructed my legal advisers to make immediate contact with the IAAF to implore them to make all my medical information in their possession available to me and to meet with my legal advisers for the purposes of resolving what appears to me to be a very simple matter.
"Needless to say, after three formal attempts by my legal advisers to make contact with the IAAF on my behalf, the IAAF had still not responded to my overtures. I requested my legal advisers to prevail upon the government to open negotiations with the IAAF by sending an emissary to negotiate a fair and equitable settlement of this matter. The outcome of that lengthy process was the pronouncement that I was not guilty of any wrongdoing or cheating and that I was entitled to keep my gold medal, my prize money (which has now been paid to me) and my ranking as the number one female athlete in the world over the female 800 meter event.
"Notwithstanding my reservations about the correctness and moral integrity of the process I underwent prior to, during and after the Berlin World Championships, on the strength of the representation that I had committed no wrongdoing, I begrudgingly committed to assist the IAAF in concluding its processes which I did not agree with. Given that I have rightfully not been disqualified nor suspended from athletics competitions and given also that I expected these processes to be expedited I, on my own volition, resolved not to compete in athletics competitions until these processes had been completed. Unfortunately these processes have dragged on for far too long with no reasonable certainty as to their end.
"The result is that my athletic capabilities and earning potential are being severely compromised. I am an athlete first and foremost and it is vital for my competitiveness, my well being and for my preparations for events during the European summer that I measure my performance against other athletes. I have constantly taken advice from an esteemed panel of medical and legal professionals and other parties who are close to me. I have been privy to and have evaluated all the relevant information they have placed before me including current IAAF rules and policies.
"This information has also been placed in the hands of the IAAF. I am of the firm view that there is no impediment to me competing in athletics competitions. I will however continue to assist the IAAF with whatsoever they may require for their own processes and in this regard I have instructed my legal and medical team to work closely with, and continue negotiation with them for these purposes. I hereby publicly announce my return to athletics competitions. My coach, agent and I will work closely together to identify and prepare for a limited number of athletics meetings over the course of the coming athletics season."
Project Director April 23rd, 2010, 11:47 AM caught a piece on BBC WORLD where this person with a deeper voice than 6 months ago seems to be giving up the cause... end game coming?
DennisRodman817 July 7th, 2010, 12:32 AM World champ Semenya cleared to return to track
By LESEGO MOTSHEGWA and GERALD IMRAY, Associated Press Writers
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JOHANNESBURG (AP)—Caster Semenya was cleared to immediately return to track by the sport’s governing body Tuesday, ending an 11-month layoff while she underwent gender tests after becoming the 800-meter world champion.
Semenya is allowed to keep running as a woman, although it is unclear if she has had any medical procedure or treatment during her time away.
Caster Semenya was cleared to return to competitive racing. (Click photo for more images).
(Michael Steele/Getty Images)
The International Association of Athletics Federations said medical details of the 19-year-old South African’s case would remain confidential and it will have no further comment on the matter.
The IAAF added in its statement from its Monaco headquarters that it accepts the conclusion of a panel of medical experts that Semenya can compete with “immediate effect.”
She could return to competition at the world junior championships in Moncton, New Brunswick, starting July 19.
“I am thrilled to enter the global athletics arena once again and look forward to competing with all the disputes behind me.” Semenya said in a statement.
Athletics South Africa said Semenya would be considered for the country’s team at the junior championships. The ASA says she must pass a fitness test in Pretoria on Wednesday.
“Of course, we are happy,” ASA official Richard Stander said. “When an athlete cannot compete it is frustrating for them and frustrating for us as a federation.”
Stander said the African championships in Kenya in late July and the Commonwealth Games in India in October were more realistic targets for Semenya.
Semenya’s lawyers said negotiations with the IAAF lasted 10 months and had been held in Monaco, Istanbul and Parish.
“But due to the nature of the matter the parties resolved to keep the negotiations confidential,” said Greg Nott, managing partner of Dewey and LeBoeuf’s Johannesburg office.
Semenya underwent gender tests following her dominant run as an 18-year-old at the Berlin world championships last August.
“We are delighted that Caster is finally being permitted to compete with other women, as is her legal and natural right,” lawyer Jeffrey Kessler said. “Hopefully, this resolution will set a precedent so that no female athlete in the future will have to experience the long delays and public scrutiny which Caster has been forced to endure.”
Earlier, Semenya’s father said his daughter had told him before the announcement that she was going to be cleared.
“She told me she doesn’t have any problems and she is happy,” Jacob Semenya said.
The announcement ended a saga in which the teenager burst onto the world scene in Berlin where she captured a gold medal in her first major event. Her dramatic improvement in times and muscular build led the IAAF to order gender verification tests.
Semenya was welcomed as a national hero in South Africa following her stunning victory, but reports of the gender tests and stories in the Australian media saying she had both male and female sex organs caused outrage in her home country and led some public officials to rally behind her.
Last month, South Africa’s sports ministry abruptly canceled a news conference in which it was expected to announce Semenya’s return.
South African Sports Minister Makhenkesi Stofile called the IAAF ruling “great news for Caster and all of us.”
“We thank Caster for her patience and resilience,” Stofile said. “We thank her family and coach for their unfailing support.”
South Africa’s ruling ANC party said the decision was a “vindication of the ANC, her family, our government and all progressive forces who stood behind her during her time of need.”
“It has always been our long-held view that Caster is a woman and she should have been allowed a long time ago to participate in athletics as a woman,” national spokesman Jackson Mthembu said. “We don’t believe that any aspersion should have been cast on her gender as woman.”
DennisRodman817 July 7th, 2010, 12:39 AM this story keeps getting weirder
Durbsboi July 7th, 2010, 10:37 AM so its settled, he is a woman
Project Director July 8th, 2010, 10:02 AM not so fast...will the other competitors run against such a person. hmmm.
Enigma_za July 9th, 2010, 11:16 AM so its settled, he is a woman
:lol::lol::lol:
ZATUGA September 28th, 2010, 10:34 PM Semenya ruled out of Delhi Games
September 28 2010 at 08:15pm
By Kevin McCallum
Caster Semenya, the 800-metre world champion, will definitely not compete in the Commonwealth Games in Delhi after she was ruled out with a back injury on Tuesday.
The South African team management said on Tuesday night they would not risk the health of Semenya, who has apparently been suffering with the ailment for some time now, and had taken the decision in the interests of the athlete. It was reported on Monday that Semenya had been struggling with a lower-back problem, but a scan done on Tuesday showed the injury was more serious than first thought.
The South African team’s chief medical officer, Dr Shuaib Manjra, said on Tuesday an MRI scan showed Semenya had an inflammation on her spine and there were fears that if she had continued to compete that this might have developed into a stress fracture. It is understood that Semenya told officials she had been running with the injury for some time now, which could explain why she had struggled with form in her last few races. She had complained to her coach, Michael Seme, of a “nagging” back problem during training.
“Caster has been experiencing back pain for some period of time and continued to have pain after competing in a cross-country event at the weekend,” said Sascoc CEO Tubby Reddy. “Our doctor has since examined her and referred her for an MRI scan. This scan confirmed that she most certainly has a back problem. We are satisfied that this is a bona fide injury and as such, Sascoc and Athletics South Africa agree that we are not in a position to compromise her health by risking her competing at New Delhi.”
It marks the end of a turbulent time for Semenya, who was crowned 800- metre world champion last year, but then suffered the indignity of having her gender questioned. She was forced to sit on the sidelines for 11 months as the IAAF conducted an investigation into her gender, but was cleared recently after a interminable time by the world governing body of athletics.
After a good start in meets in Finland, Semenya finished third in the Brussels Diamond League and seventh in the Roverto competition in northern Italy. She returned to a semblence of form with victory in the Notturna di Milano meet a few weeks ago. She had spent the greater part of that race in second place, but ran a sub-two minute time.
It is a massive blow not only to the medal hopes of the South African team but to the Games themselves. Semenya was the star attraction after several big names pulled out. With no Usain Bolt, Asafa Powell, Phillips Idowu and David Rudisha, Sememya was the name athlete that would have made the Games, hit by controversy after they a series of crises, led by the failure to finish the athletes’ village on time.
Chuck in health and security scares and the Games needed Semenya badly.
South Africa needed her as badly, and it looks like they could also be without world 800m champion Mbulaeni Mulaudzi, who has long-standing back injury. His situation is being assessed by Manjra, as is that of long jump star Khotso Mokoena, who has complained of a hamstring injury. Sascoc are playing a wait-and-see game with the pair.
“Khotso has recovered from a leg muscle injury but his problem is that he has not trained for eight weeks,” said Reddy. “We have suggested that he goes back to his coach to re-assess and we will take a final decision in a few days time.”
Some of the members of the South African team who landed in Delhi on Monday have moved into the athletes’ village, which has been the subject of massive criticism these past few weeks. While the finishing of some of the apartments has been described as “shoddy”, the South Africans in situ were making the best of it. “At least the place is clean. A week ago we would never have been able to live here, judging by the reports and pictures, but this looks fine, I'm very pleasantly surprised,” said track cyclist Dean Edwards.
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