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heirloom
December 5th, 2002, 10:02 PM
these are renderings of the currently under construction terminal.

http://www.jonseagull.com/images/p_changi_night.jpg
http://www.jonseagull.com/images/p_changi_bridge.jpg

Singapore Changi Airport's Terminal 3 will have a flat but intriguing roof consisting of many skylights allowing natural light into the terminal building. The roof will limit the amount of direct sunlight into the building through the use of louvres suspended above and below the skylights, filling Terminal 3 with diffused, ambient light during the day. At night, artificial light bounced off the ceiling creates a soothing and comfortable environment for passengers. This unique feature of Terminal 3 will also be seen by passengers waiting to collect their bags at the baggage claim hall.

http://www.changi.airport.com.sg/media/Changi/images/content/PublicRelations/en/Image_3.jpg
http://www.changi.airport.com.sg/media/Changi/images/content/PublicRelations/en/T3Construction.jpg

Passengers using Terminal 3 can expect to move around with ease and minimum dependence on signages. This is possible as Terminal 3 will adopt a see-through layout concept, making it easier for travellers to orientate themselves. This is part of the four guiding principles adopted by the Civil Aviation Authority of Singapore (CAAS) when designing Terminal 3, namely, clarity, natural lighting, external views and maintainability.

Terminal 3 and its associated works will cost S$1.5 billion. It will add a capacity of 20 million passengers a year, bringing the total capability of Changi Airport to 64 million passengers till the year 2020. When opened in 2006, Terminal 3 will add another 28 aerobridge gates to Changi Airport, with up to eight that will be designed to handle the new generation of large aircraft, the A380.

kiku99
December 6th, 2002, 02:18 AM
looks like it's gonna be a very modern terminal...ccol

BrizzyChris
December 6th, 2002, 04:56 AM
Thank you heaps, I've been waiting for so long to see some renderings of T3. But I am still a little confused as to its location within the airport. Will it be north of T1?

heirloom
December 6th, 2002, 05:44 AM
the three terminals form a horseshoe.

http://www.changi.airport.com.sg/media/Changi/images/content/PublicRelations/en/Image_4.gif

[the pink dotted lines are the new automated baggage system. ]

heirloom
December 6th, 2002, 06:31 AM
i found more pics...
http://www.som.com/resources/projects/3/0/2/changit3_airpor4copy_874.jpg

http://www.som.com/resources/projects/3/0/2/changit3m08_872.jpg

http://www.som.com/resources/projects/3/0/2/changiterm3baggage_cr5copy_876.jpg

http://www.som.com/resources/projects/3/0/2/changit3_ai4c8d1_873.jpg

are the walls in the last pic covered with moss? or some other form of greenery...? or is it juz paint?

the two illuminated structures are the subway stations for changi airport. the one at terminal 2 is already completed.
http://www.som.com/resources/projects/3/0/1/changi_aerial_cr2_855.jpg

http://www.som.com/resources/projects/3/0/1/changi_esc_cr6_859.jpg


this is thelongest clear span pedestrian bridge ever
http://www.som.com/resources/projects/3/0/1/changi_bridge_cr4_857.jpg

http://www.som.com/resources/projects/3/0/1/changihr_m2_861.jpg

http://www.som.com/resources/projects/3/0/1/changi_esc_cr5_858.jpg

RafflesCity
December 6th, 2002, 09:35 PM
Very impressive pictures!
This will definitely help Changi maintain its number 1 position.

I saw the new subway at the airport..looks cool, although unless I was really free and had little luggage, I would take a taxi.

Cliff
December 9th, 2002, 07:54 AM
Wow.....:eek:

renell
December 13th, 2002, 08:53 PM
real cool pictures:cool: changi is really big!! btw how many runways does it have?

RafflesCity
December 13th, 2002, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by renell
real cool pictures:cool: changi is really big!! btw how many runways does it have?

I think there are 2 runways. Am I right?

Cliff
December 16th, 2002, 04:49 AM
One of the glass sections is already complete and it's huge!

BrizzyChris
December 16th, 2002, 11:07 AM
Yes, Changi has 2 runways at the moment.

Does anyone know if the inter-terminal train shuttle will be extended to T3?

RafflesCity
December 17th, 2002, 06:24 AM
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Does anyone know if the inter-terminal train shuttle will be extended to T3?</td></tr>
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They should, although T3 seems to be a bit further off.

heirloom
December 18th, 2002, 06:36 PM
yep there will a new shuttle system built (from scratch i think, as will be for the automated baggage transport thingie) with slicker trains... if i remember correctly, there will be 19 cars in the new system, compared to the current number of 3...

kosm0s
January 1st, 2003, 09:32 PM
Gorgeous pictures posted by heirloom. I look forward to utilising the new T3. :) Thumbs up for great vision for T3! :cheers:

Roscoe
January 2nd, 2003, 06:08 AM
Changi airport is so cool.
I wished LAX could be this awesome.

Cliff
January 2nd, 2003, 11:31 AM
It was by SOM?

heirloom
January 4th, 2003, 01:57 PM
if i remember correctly, lax looks pretty cool too.. its got really huge light pillars? no? i dunno.. vague memory....

and yep i found these at the som website

Blabbyboy
January 9th, 2003, 08:00 AM
That clear span bridge looks like Santiago Clatrava's work. Anyone know the architect? But the ceiling is...disturbing! hehe:D

heirloom
January 9th, 2003, 09:53 AM
the architect that does all those buildings that can open and close? hmm but the bridge can't move a bit...

perthguy78
January 29th, 2003, 05:56 PM
MAY DELAY NEW TERMINAL BUILDING

Singapore may delay plans to expand Changi Airport because of the global downturn in the travel industry, a minister said in remarks published 3rd December in the Straits Times.



Transport Minister Yeo Cheow Tong said a decision on whether to go ahead with the construction of a third terminal for Changi costing 1.5 billion Singapore dollars (US$819 million) would be made in the coming months.



"We want to be sure that we don't complete Terminal 3 and have it half empty" Mr Yeo said.



Officials from the transport Ministry were unable to give further details. The new terminal was originally planned to be ready in early 2006.



According to the blueprint, the new terminal would be among the first in the world capable of handling the new Airbus A-380 superjumbo.



As planned, the four storey terminal could handle 20 million passengers a year, and would increase the annual passenger capacity of Singapore's national airport to 64 million.



Changi has been voted in the travel press as one of the worlds' best airports because of its efficient operations and shopping, business and leisure facilities.

perthguy78
January 29th, 2003, 05:59 PM
raffles city-
will maintain changis number 1 position in what exactly?? it is far from the busiest airport in the world and HK was voted best airport in the world :D

heirloom
January 29th, 2003, 06:29 PM
mmmm actually there are many different airport rankings and since changi airport seems to get a few accolades / best airport awards a month.... it could be considered to be in the group of 'no.1 airports'. its difficult to decide which is the best really.... and anyway its the first and only airport to be inducted into TTG's (magazine) hall of fame...

and being busy does not mean being good... look at airports like bangkok / heathrow... ugh...

perthguy78
January 30th, 2003, 05:22 AM
i meant that he couldnt be referring to the fact that changi is #1 in capacity...
changi is an okay airport.. but it is starting to look old compared with HK and KLIA. also the new GZ airport will be great aswell...

personally is i had to choose an airport in teh world to be stuck in for 24 hours it would be changi.... i think it is one of the top 3 in the world, but i think the newer airports are getting the awards now like HK etc: coz they can learn from changhi and improve upon certain things...
but if you take into account location and distance from the CBD .. SIN wins hands down... although SYD is pretty good aswell..

huaiwei
February 28th, 2003, 03:55 PM
Changi is never number 1 in capacity...its still in the 20-odd position. Unlikely to rise much either.

As for wining awards and the like, while we jus have to count how many awards each airport gets per month to judge i suppose, like wat heirloom said, rather then by the "latest" rankings.

There's no doubt changi is aging struturally, but a regular visit to it will realise its interior is constantly changing. The oldest Terminal 1 got a major upgrade recently, and even relatively new Terminal 2 got refurbished. There is practically 0 chance for Singapore to ever replace Changi, so internal upgrade will have to be the only way to catch up. Land has already been reclaimed next to the airport tt allows it to double in size. We shall see what happens then.

Also, I must point out that newer airports with newer, prettier facilities and the like do not necesarily a best airport make. Just imagine yrself as a regular traveller, and you will soon realise its not physical things tt strike you first, but the personal touch, efficiency, peace of mind, and convenience that makes your day as a tired travellor, and make you appreciative of what the airport has to offer.

PW100
March 3rd, 2003, 10:42 PM
Just FYI

Singapore Changi is the Nr.25 airport in the world in terms of total passengers.
Here's the 2002 ranking:
Airport Top 25 For 2002 (http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?threadid=9796&perpage=20&pagenumber=4)


Regards,
PW100

RafflesCity
March 4th, 2003, 05:56 AM
http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/money/story/0,4386,175021,00.html?

March 4, 2003

JAPANESE construction firm Shimizu has been awarded a $1 billion contract to build Changi Airport's third passenger terminal.

The Civil Aviation Authority of Singapore confirmed media reports yesterday that the contract, awarded solely to Japan's third-largest general contractor, will be signed in May.

Shimizu was one of 11 parties that put in a bid for the contract when the Government called for a tender in September 2001.

Scheduled for completion in 2006, the third terminal will have a handling capacity of 20 million passengers. That will enable Changi Airport to cope with a total of 64 million passengers a year.

The airport handled less than half that number - 29 million passengers - for the whole of last year.

A key architectural feature of the new terminal, which will span four storeys and have 28 boarding gates, is the liberal use of glass panels that will allow natural light to illuminate the terminal.

Shimizu declined to comment on the details of the deal when contacted in Tokyo yesterday.

The Japanese firm has clinched a total of 360 billion yen (S$5.3 billion) worth of contracts from the Republic since 1980, when it first undertook an office building project here.

dOoRbell
March 13th, 2003, 07:23 AM
:angel1: hm..that realli fantastic...i looking forward to it..so cOol!!:baaa: hehe...

Skyblade
March 21st, 2003, 03:36 AM
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I wished LAX could be this awesome.</td></tr>
</table>Indeed.

Anywho Changi T3 looks like a really awesome sight to behold when arriving. :D

vvill
April 6th, 2003, 11:18 AM
it looks sorta weird.. seems like the roof is falling due to earthquake. mmm.

SOM could have done better. :)

TropicalSQ744
May 4th, 2003, 10:23 AM
Great pics hier!! I remember going pass part of the T3 which has completed construction (i think!) and boy was the glass good! :D

Can't wait to see how the rest of the terminal turns out! :) :guns1:

RafflesCity
August 22nd, 2003, 07:24 PM
When Singapore Changi Airport's Terminal 3 opens in 2006, it will have a S$121 million state-of-the-art baggage handling system that will enhance Changi Airport's position as an aviation hub in the region. The fully-automated baggage system will include a high-speed inter-terminal baggage transfer system and an automated early bag storage facility.

A key feature of the new baggage handling system is a high-speed inter-terminal baggage transfer system. Baggage of transfer passengers making connections at different terminals will be transported individually through underground tunnels at a speed of 7m/s. This means it will take only about three minutes for a bag to be transported from one terminal to the other.

The baggage handling system will also have an automated early baggage storage system, where bags that are checked-in early or transfer bags with long connection times are stored. Besides allowing for automatic bag storage and retrieval, the system is also able to automatically update changes in flight itinerary of passengers and thus discharge the bags to the right connecting flights. The new baggage system will also have an integrated multi-level baggage security screening system to automatically screen bags.

The baggage handling system in Terminal 3 will also be able to support the operations of new large aircraft, such as the Airbus A380. Of the eight baggage claim belts in Terminal 3's Arrival Hall, four are designed to support the new large aircraft.

Work on the new baggage handling system will begin in the last quarter of 2003 and is expected to be completed in 2005.

huaiwei
September 1st, 2003, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by RafflesCity

When Singapore Changi Airport's Terminal 3 opens in 2006, it will have a S$121 million state-of-the-art baggage handling system that will enhance Changi Airport's position as an aviation hub in the region. The fully-automated baggage system will include a high-speed inter-terminal baggage transfer system and an automated early bag storage facility.

A key feature of the new baggage handling system is a high-speed inter-terminal baggage transfer system. Baggage of transfer passengers making connections at different terminals will be transported individually through underground tunnels at a speed of 7m/s. This means it will take only about three minutes for a bag to be transported from one terminal to the other.

The baggage handling system will also have an automated early baggage storage system, where bags that are checked-in early or transfer bags with long connection times are stored. Besides allowing for automatic bag storage and retrieval, the system is also able to automatically update changes in flight itinerary of passengers and thus discharge the bags to the right connecting flights. The new baggage system will also have an integrated multi-level baggage security screening system to automatically screen bags.

The baggage handling system in Terminal 3 will also be able to support the operations of new large aircraft, such as the Airbus A380. Of the eight baggage claim belts in Terminal 3's Arrival Hall, four are designed to support the new large aircraft.

Work on the new baggage handling system will begin in the last quarter of 2003 and is expected to be completed in 2005. A map to illustrate your post! :D

http://www.changi.airport.com.sg/media/Changi/images/content/PublicRelations/en/Image_4.gif

huaiwei
September 1st, 2003, 05:07 PM
http://www.changi.airport.com.sg/media/Changi/images/titles/en/about_t3_development.gif

http://www.changi.airport.com.sg/media/Changi/images/header_images/changi.jpg

New Automated People Mover system to link Changi Airport's three Terminals

Passengers making inter-terminal flight connections at Singapore Changi Airport will find it a breeze even after Terminal 3 opens in 2006. The Civil Aviation Authority of Singapore (CAAS) is installing a new S$135 million Automated People Mover System to make transfers between the three terminals convenient and seamless.

The new Automated People Mover System will comprise of ten train services linking the three terminals through 6.5 kilometres of elevated train tracks. The new system will have a total of seven train stations: two stations in Terminal 1 and Terminal 2 respectively and three stations in Terminal 3.

The new trains will come equipped with LCD screens in the cabins, giving flight information and other airport information. The cabins will also have more vertical stanchions and handholds, as well as designated areas for baggage trolleys, enhancing the convenience of users. There will also be plasma TV displays at the train stations to inform passengers of the arrival time of the next train.

Work on the new Automated People Mover System will begin in December 2002 and is expected to be completed in 2006

http://www.changi.airport.com.sg/media/Changi/images/content/PublicRelations/en/Image_5.gif

RafflesCity
September 7th, 2003, 11:20 PM
A rendering and information from SOM's website

This new airline terminal completes a multi-phase masterplan that began in the 1970's. The form of this phase is intended to be compatible with the existing terminal while simultaneously yielding a unique experience.

In evaluating the design requirements for T3, it became evident that there needed to be a clearer hierarchy of spaces within the terminal. In order to achieve this goal, SOM designed a feature roof that spans the Ticketing Hall and Departure Hall. Comparatively, the surrounding landscaped roofs covering the concourses and ancillary spaces linking the existing terminals are lower and less articulated.

A system of louvers both above and below the feature roof baffles the tropical sunlight admitted through the skylights. These louvers limit the amount of direct light on the terminal floor and allow the space to be filled with diffused, ambient light. The careful positioning of louvers gives the ceiling a soft, organic character. The lightweight, perforated aluminum composite panels benefit the acoustics of the space while reflecting both natural and artificial light. The louvers are supported by a system of cables that also helps stabilize the roof trusses.

The total structure consists of 220m long by 4m deep steel truss-supported roof with cable bracing and tension-net point-fixed glass fa�e. The light modulation system contains 1,100 skylights and 215,000 cable-supported perforated aluminum louvers. Due to its size, scale and articulation, the roof's effect is quite atmospheric.

http://www.som.com/resources/projects/3/0/2/changiterm3arrival_cr4copy_875.jpg

RafflesCity
November 27th, 2003, 01:12 PM
More information about accomodating the A380
http://www.airport-technology.com/projects/changi/images/1_113.jpg

When it is opened in 2006, Terminal 3 will expand Singapore Changi Airport's annual capacity by 20 million passengers to 64 million. The S$1.5 billion ($882 million) project features the new terminal building as well as a new baggage handling facility, an automated people mover connecting the three terminals and 28 new aerobridge gates, of which eight will be able to handle the next generation of large aircraft, the Airbus A380. Changi airport currently serves over 60 airlines that fly to 145 destinations.

CHANGI AIRPORT TERMINAL 3
The new Terminal 3 building was designed by CPG Corporation and will have a gross floor area of 430,000m². Spread over seven levels (of which three will be underground) the terminal will house 28 boarding gates and increase car parking by 1,800 spaces.

The roof of the new terminal, designed by SOM, will consist of a series of skylights that allow natural light into the building for it to be diffused by louvres above and below the skylights. At nighttime, artificial light will be directed at the ceiling, again diffused by the louvres.

BAGGAGE HANDLING AND SCREENING SYSTEMS
FKI Logistex, through its Danish subsidiary, Crisplant a/s, was appointed the leader of a consortium to supply the complete baggage handling system for the new terminal. The sorting of bags will primarily be based on a Tilt-Tray solution with Crisbag™ integrated into the system to handle all transfer baggage in the terminal, to function as a high-speed transport system for baggage between the three terminals and also function as the early baggage storage system. Transfer baggage will be discharged directly from Crisbag to the baggage carousels in Terminal 3.

The complete system comprises two S-3000E Tilt-Tray sorters, each approximately 1,000m long, a 10,000m long Crisbag system for the high-speed connection between terminals and the early baggage storage system, check-in conveyors, racetracks and claim carousels. Crisplant will also supply the computer control system.

The baggage screening solution is being provided by L-3 Security and Detection Systems in the first agreement of its kind to look to one provider for all certified systems. The contract specifies delivery of products from L-3's complete line of automated hold baggage screening systems for the inspection of check-in luggage, including VIS 108 and MVT integrated, Level 1 systems as well as certified and computed tomography eXaminer 3DX 6000® systems for Level 3 resolution. The vast majority of deliveries will begin early in 2003 and continue throughout the year.

AIRBUS A380 PREPARATIONS
Following Singapore Airline's decision to be a launch customer for new Airbus A380 aircraft, eight of Terminal 3's 28 gates will have the capability to handle the new super jumbo. Whilst the gates, the baggage handling system and the lounges of the new terminal will all be designed with the A380 in mind, the airport's existing airfield and terminal infrastructure will have to be redeveloped. The Civil Aviation Authority of Singapore (CAAS) has announced that it will:

Widen runway and taxiway intersections to make turning easier (the runways and taxiways themselves are deemed sufficient to cope with the A380's size and weight)
Downsize some gates to allow the A380 to use existing gates without compromising safe distances between aircraft
Add seating to departure lounges that will serve the A380
Expand the baggage handling system in Terminals 1 and 2 to accommodate additional carousels and longer baggage belts
CAAS is also investigating the need for a third arm on existing airbridges to service the top deck of the super jumbo.

MRT EXTENSION AND AUTOMATED PEOPLE MOVER
As part of an expansion of the Singapore Mass Rapid Transit (MRT) system, the East-West line has been extended to a new station at Changi International Airport, situated underground between Terminal 2 and the site for Terminal 3. The station was completed in February 2002 although part of it is unused pending the completion of Terminal 3.

Changi Airport is also building a S$135 million Automated People Mover System (APMS) to aid transfers between the three terminals. The APMS will be a ten-train service running between seven stations along 6.5km of elevated train tracks. The trains themselves will feature dedicated areas for baggage trolleys and LCD screens in the train cabins will display flight times and other airport information.

OTHER CONTRACTORS

NCS Communications Engineering is the project consultant for the Total Airport Management System as well as airport information and telecommunication systems for Terminal 3. PWD Consultants Pte Ltd prepared reinforced concrete and steel structural details for authority submission and tender purposes. Fire Safety Design & Engineering performed CFD simulations and design of the 'depressurised cabin' principle for SHEVS and CRISP (evacuation simulation) in close collaboration with PMD Architects (Singapore). Woodhead International planned the interior of the terminal.
http://www.airport-technology.com/projects/changi/images/8_A2-09-074.jpg

huaiwei
November 27th, 2003, 05:25 PM
I am just dying to discover just how that roof is supposed to function! Hope it is going to be as "effective" as planned. :D

redstone
December 2nd, 2003, 08:18 AM
There are in fact two passenger airports in Singapore.

The other one is the Seletar Airport:

http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~ito-nori/birdseye/images/XSP.jpg
http://picas.nhb.gov.sg/data/tn_pcd/19980006747-8262-3202-2416/img0111.jpg

It is a small airport ,designed to handle light aircraft and helicopters ,with a 5354 ft. runway ,which would be lenghtened to handle the Boeing 737.

It is the first airport in Singapore.

huaiwei
December 2nd, 2003, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by redstone

It is the first airport in Singapore. First airport? U sure it predates the Kallang Aerodrome and the Farrer Park Fields? :D

redstone
December 2nd, 2003, 01:12 PM
The first airport IS at Farrer ,but I don't think there is a building ,only a open field.

I'm sure it is older than the one at Kallang.

huaiwei
December 2nd, 2003, 01:37 PM
Is it? Maybe Seletar opened without a building too, and gradually expanded? :D

BTW, I notice your new signature. Very colourful. ;) If you wan to add our trademark tag line, feel free to ask for it and it shall be sent via PM. ;)

huaiwei
December 16th, 2003, 09:59 PM
Raffi, when you return to Singapore, do remember to check out the state of the terminal's construction if you can! ;)

RafflesCity
December 17th, 2003, 08:14 AM
I will be able to see it as I leave T2.:cool:

The last time I went to the airport in October I could see this huge row of cranes along the length of where T3 will be - quite impressive to see them although no discernible structure then.

heirloom
December 17th, 2003, 07:07 PM
i heard on the radio that there might a be a low cost terminal built just for budget airlines!!! excellent!

huaiwei
December 17th, 2003, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by heirloom

i heard on the radio that there might a be a low cost terminal built just for budget airlines!!! excellent! Yeah...here's a thread about it:

http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=78221 ;)

babystan03
December 27th, 2003, 03:52 AM
DEC 27, 2003
$250m upgrade for Changi Terminal 1
The aim is to remain aviation hub; Terminal 3 opening put off to 2008

By Karamjit Kaur
TRANSPORT CORRESPONDENT

CHANGI Airport's Terminal 1 will receive an extreme makeover, costing about $250 million, to ensure it remains a key aviation hub in the region.

The upgrade is likely to start in 2005 at the latest, and the decision comes 15 months after refurbishing work started on Terminal 2, where the improvements bill is also $250 million.

The announcement of the Terminal 1 plan was made by Transport Minister Yeo Cheow Tong to The Straits Times and Lianhe Zaobao recently, when he said: 'The competition is going to get tougher, that's for sure, which is why we're putting in place all these plans or all these programmes to ensure that Changi is able to continue growing as an air hub.'

Mr Yeo also disclosed that the opening of Terminal 3 will be delayed by about two years, to early 2008.

A spokesman for the Civil Aviation Authority of Singapore (CAAS) said it was premature to discuss details about plans for Terminal 1 but The Straits Times understands that more shops and food outlets will be added.

Terminal 1, which was opened in 1981, serves 51 airlines. Singapore Airlines flies only to Terminal 2, which is also used by several other airlines.

The two terminals have a total of 105 shops and 47 food and beverage outlets.

Terminal 2's upgrading will be done by 2005 and will add 2,000 sq m of retail and food and beverage space to the current 28,000 sq m, which is about half the size of the National Stadium.

The improvements are vital, as takings from the retail and food and beverage outlets - by way of rents and a portion of sales - contributed 60 per cent of CAAS' total revenue in the year ended March 31, 2002, or $527 million out of $879 million.

Terminal 1's upgrade is the first major improvement, although minor works have been done over the year, including enlarging the arrival and departure halls.

While important, Mr Yeo stressed that it was equally necessary to ensure that passengers are kept happy with an unmatched level of service.

While agreeing, several travellers also pointed out that good looks matter as much.

Businessman Roy Tan, 44, said: 'I always prefer going to Terminal 2 because it looks more modern and new. The whole place looks brighter and refreshing, especially when you go into the restricted area for passengers.

'Terminal 1, on the other hand, feels boring, with lighting that is duller as well.'

The delay in opening Terminal 3, with a passenger capacity of 20 million a year, will give rival Bangkok a head start when its new airport, with a capacity of 45 million, opens in September 2005.

Changi's Terminal 1 and Terminal 2 have a total passenger capacity of 44 million, more than enough for the 29 million travellers who passed through last year.

This year, with travel hit by the Iraq war and Sars, the number of visitors for the first 11 months of the year was about 22 million.

Although the aviation industry is on the road to recovery, and more people are taking to the skies again, Terminal 3 would not be needed until 2008, said the CAAS spokesman.


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Copyright @ 2003 Singapore Press Holdings. All rights reserved.

huaiwei
December 27th, 2003, 08:47 AM
Hm.....they are upgrading Terminal 2 to handle the A380 am i right? Coz the original plan to get T3 finished by 2006 was to coincide with SIA takung delivery of that plane?

babystan03
December 28th, 2003, 03:49 AM
I suppose so. Think they are upgrading terminal 1 for A380 also since there is a possibility that there are other airlines which might also use A380 in the future.

huaiwei
December 28th, 2003, 06:18 AM
Originally posted by babystan03

I suppose so. Think they are upgrading terminal 1 for A380 also since there is a possibility that there are other airlines which might also use A380 in the future. I tot they are only going to do it in T3, and simply move those airlines operating it to that terminal. Seems like they have too much cash to do it in every terminal! :D

huaiwei
March 10th, 2004, 08:16 PM
These renderings and text are taken out from a book entitled "Changi by Design – Architecture of the
World’s Best Airport" by Nirmal Kishnani. Painstakingly scanned and OCRed for your viewing and
reading pleasure! ;)

First of...the conceptual stage:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829001.jpg

In the processes that shaped the issues and priorities of T3 three schemes were generated and evaluated,
each with a somewhat exaggerated emphasis.

The Wave was an allegory of movement. The curvature of the roof tracked departing passenger flow
through the building, rising and falling to give emphasis to space and activity.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829002.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829005a.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829005b.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829005c.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829005d.jpg

huaiwei
March 10th, 2004, 08:19 PM
The Eye was an expression of technology, an anatomical analogy for the skylight above the Departure Hall,
made up of a matrix of steel and glass.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829003.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829005e.jpg

The Trellis was an exploration of climate with elements borrowed from vernacular architecture. Pergolas
and louvers meant to evoke the old-world charm of the veranda were used to modulate heat and light
from the tropical sun.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829004.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829005f.jpg

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huaiwei
March 10th, 2004, 08:21 PM
In the final scheme attributes from each study option were synthesised into a fourth entity, one that
rejected the monumentality of the Wave and merged the technological and climatic ideals of the Eye
and Trellis. The design of T3 however is far more complex than its prototypes. Behind the simplicity of its form
is an extraordinary level of detail.

Guiding its design are the perceived needs for continuity and change.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829021.jpg

huaiwei
March 10th, 2004, 08:23 PM
Continuity

Continuity addresses how the three terminals function collectively. A study carried out in the mid-1990s
identified movement between existing terminals and the network of roads. T3 incorporates passenger and baggage
systems that link the three terminals in a metaphorical holding of hands.

Of these, the People Mover System, dubbed Changi Skytrain, will be reconstructed into a full loop facilitating
transfers from one terminal to each of the others. The subterranean Inter-Terminal Baggage Transfer
System, which transports bags between Ti and T2, will be expanded into a three-terminal configuration
of tunnels.

In itself, the new terminal cannot be so different in itself as to necessitate a rethink of how service is managed
or delivered. The layout of T3 reveals that operationally, at least, it is the same as T1 and T2.

Its Arrival Hall is situated on the ground, Departure Hall one level up. Level 3 houses restaurants, viewing gallery
and airline lounges. A common datum across all terminals will allow users to move from one to the other
without a change in level. Private car, taxi and coach pick-up points will be situated at the front and sides of
the terminal building. An elevated road will rise up along the front of the building creating a kerbside drop-off for
the Departure Hall, much as it does in T1 and T2. Visitor parking takes place in T3's basements (T1 relies on
surface parking, T2 on aboveground car parks). This will give the main terminal hall greater visual prominence
along the Changi approach.

Unlike T1 and T2, the new terminal has a flat-roofed, orthogonal geometry with little fuss or articulation. Its
simplicity projects a strong image from a distance, an impression that is quickly reversed by the complexity of
its details. The roof is a sandwich of steel and glass, structure and skylights. The terminal facade, unadorned
from afar, is made up of a system of tensile elements and operable sunshades.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829022.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829117.jpg

huaiwei
March 10th, 2004, 08:31 PM
Change

The centrepiece of the terminal is its Departure Hall and its roof. Seen from the inside, the roof is a random
arrangement of skylights and baffles, framed within a grid of exposed steel trusses. Experts from around
the world are collaborating with T3's principal consultant, PWD Consultant's Airport Development Division, in
the design and construction of the roof.

T3's interior will also showcase a Green Wall, a 'vertical garden' that runs the breadth and height of the
terminal hall, covered with live plants and waterfalls. Departing passengers walking towards the immigration
clearance counters will pass through openings in the Wall. Arrivals will encounter the same Wall one
level below as they approach immigration counters. The baggage claim area opens up to the Departure Hall
above, allowing these passengers the opportunity of experiencing the canopy roof.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829031.jpg

huaiwei
March 10th, 2004, 08:35 PM
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huaiwei
March 10th, 2004, 08:51 PM
Epilogue

To say that Changi, with the coming of T3, will catch-up with design-savvy airports elsewhere is to miss the point behind its user-centric philosophy. The pragmatism of Changi never precluded the esoteric. T1 and T2 were however pitched at the traveller of the 1970s and 1980s, pegged to the issues of the time. The 1990s' projects signalled a shift in user-expectations towards a keener design sensibility. T3 merely affirms this trend.

What sets T3 apart from newer airports in the region is a deep-seated scepticism of the grand gesture. There is an underlying fear that in giving in to the big design statement something will be lost, that the well-tested Changi philosophy might somehow be compromised.

T3 therefore walks the line between old and new paradigms. As it makes a bid for a distinctive experience, distinguishing itself from older terminals at Changi and new airports elsewhere, it checks to see if it has strayed too far.

The outcome was being calibrated as this book took shape. The broad stroke is in place. As images of the new terminal suggest, it is one that strives for delight through light and space, landscaping and texture. The reliance on technology is in a sense a return to roots. It was very much the strategy for T1. When Changi's first terminal opened one encountered an environment that was on the cutting edge of design.

Technology then was about asserting confidence - a young nation taking a grown-up step. Today it is about bridging expectations, reaching out to the mobile-savvy traveller who is spoilt by choice. T3 aims at basic human needs, using light and greenery in a calculated approach.

The battle of perception however is not just about the traveller; it is also about the Singaporean who has come to expect more of the nation's public buildings. The new Singapore Arts Centre, National Library and Supreme Court extension are symptomatic of this expectation. These projects, each a distinctive building by a well-known designer, do more than deliver functionality; they aspire to be national symbols as well. They suggest that the Singaporean audience - affluent and well travelled - cannot be ignored.

What has changed most perhaps is the manner in which the question of design is articulated. In the 1970s little was said of how Changi would be perceived spatially and visually, other than operational needs that it would address. With T3 it is openly acknowledged that it aims to capture the imagination of its users. The argument is sometimes still couched in functionalist language - energy savings through inclusion of natural light - as if beauty needs qualification. There is, however, no escaping the crafted quality of its design or its bid to impart pleasure. Despite past reservations, Delight takes its rightful place alongside Firmness and Commodity.

(more coming up! ;) )

heirloom
March 11th, 2004, 02:03 AM
it looks bigger than terminals 1 and 2 combined! the last pic showing the carousels... those things between the green walls are they waterfall curtains or glass?

zergcerebrates
March 11th, 2004, 04:53 AM
It looks nice and sophisticated, but Singapore airport overall looks like clumps of different buildings that do not match each other. So when the new terminal finishes it looks more hightech than other terminals thus it doesn't unify. Does Singapore airport have any plans to renovate the existing terminals?

Kuala Lumpur International, Incheon International Airport, Hong Kong International, Kansai International, and the new Bangkok Airport are all examples of unified airport(that includes their future terminal expansion designs)

RafflesCity
March 11th, 2004, 05:12 AM
Even as I speak, the older terminals are now undergoing renovations to keep them up-to-date and give them a new look.

Terminal 2 Upgrading

Changi Airport is upgrading again! This time, Terminal 2 will be undergoing an entire facelift with the aim of better serving air travellers. This will be done in 3 ways. First, any deficiency and weakness in the existing building design are identified and rectified. Second, the transit area will be enlarged to increase Terminal 2's handling capacity. Third, more shops and F & B options will be made available to airport users with better space planning.

With the facelift, airport users can expect significant enhancements to Terminal 2 functional areas. There will be an extended canopy at the departure kerbside to provide shelter against inclement weather, the departure check-in hall and arrival immigration hall will be revamped with posh architectural finishes as well as designer landscape to make them more welcoming and friendly. Airport users will also find that the intelligent use of natural lights and removal of low ceiling areas result in a departure check-in hall with better clarity and easier way-finding. For the avid shoppers, more shops with interesting shop fronts will add to their shopping pleasure within the transit area. Food lovers will be delighted to find more F & B options in both the public and transit area.

http://www.changiairport.com.sg/media/Changi/images/content/PublicRelations/en/T2Upgrading.jpg

Also, you will find that T3 is actually the final stage of a horse-shoe design conceived in the 1970s that planned for 3 terminals. And no doubt, they will be well integrated for maximum ease.

http://www.changi.airport.com.sg/media/Changi/images/titles/en/about_t3_development.gif

http://www.changi.airport.com.sg/media/Changi/images/header_images/changi.jpg

New Automated People Mover system to link Changi Airport's three Terminals

Passengers making inter-terminal flight connections at Singapore Changi Airport will find it a breeze even after Terminal 3 opens in 2006. The Civil Aviation Authority of Singapore (CAAS) is installing a new S$135 million Automated People Mover System to make transfers between the three terminals convenient and seamless.

The new Automated People Mover System will comprise of ten train services linking the three terminals through 6.5 kilometres of elevated train tracks. The new system will have a total of seven train stations: two stations in Terminal 1 and Terminal 2 respectively and three stations in Terminal 3.

The new trains will come equipped with LCD screens in the cabins, giving flight information and other airport information. The cabins will also have more vertical stanchions and handholds, as well as designated areas for baggage trolleys, enhancing the convenience of users. There will also be plasma TV displays at the train stations to inform passengers of the arrival time of the next train.

Work on the new Automated People Mover System will begin in December 2002 and is expected to be completed in 2006

http://www.changi.airport.com.sg/media/Changi/images/content/PublicRelations/en/Image_5.gif

Changi first opened T1 in 1981 and then moved smoothly to T2 in 1990 so I believe they will have the experience of handling the inclusion of T3 with ease. I believe the other regional airports mentioned were built when their terminals could not cope with expansion for whatever reason and new massive airports had to be built from scratch.

RafflesCity
March 11th, 2004, 05:20 AM
Oh, and it seems that the Singapore planners are steps ahead when it comes to thinking beyond Terminal 3. They have just completed land reclamation off the airport on the country's East coast that will in future provide necessary space for airport expansion, besides an airbase and aerospace exhibition area

http://e.1asphost.com/sssc/Aviation/Aviation2.jpg
http://e.1asphost.com/sssc/Aviation/AirlinersNetPhotoID171015.jpg
http://www.ura.gov.sg/ppd/mp2003/images/e-pic-w-3daerial.jpg
http://satrec.kaist.ac.kr/k3_image/changi/changi-s1.jpg

btw great pics huaiwei, keep them coming!:guns1:

huaiwei
March 11th, 2004, 10:40 AM
Originally posted by heirloom

it looks bigger than terminals 1 and 2 combined! the last pic showing the carousels... those things between the green walls are they waterfall curtains or glass? They are waterfalls....as has been described in the text above it. ;)

huaiwei
March 11th, 2004, 10:51 AM
Originally posted by zergcerebrates

It looks nice and sophisticated, but Singapore airport overall looks like clumps of different buildings that do not match each other. So when the new terminal finishes it looks more hightech than other terminals thus it doesn't unify. Does Singapore airport have any plans to renovate the existing terminals?

Kuala Lumpur International, Incheon International Airport, Hong Kong International, Kansai International, and the new Bangkok Airport are all examples of unified airport(that includes their future terminal expansion designs) Other then the fact that the two existing terminals are constantly under renovations, which raffi kindly pointed out, I must note that these 3 terminals are hardly a creation "at the spur of the moment" kind of thing.

The initial plans for Terminal 3 was actually intended to be a carbon copy of Terminal 2. If you look at the maps of the 3-terminal configuration, you should be able to see how they merge together into a seemless configuration.

However, new developments in the aviation industry in recent years prompted a review of the earlier plans. This included the introduction of mega airliners, which meant the need to accomodate for large influx of passenger flow per plane, amongst other issues, as well as the need for architectural expressiveness in line with the times, as has been mentioned in the text. In fact, you should read the text, which gives insights into the issue of how T3 is supposed to co-exist in harmony with T1 and T2.

I will be posting much more text and diagrams, and these questions might be better answered then.

Meanwhile, the various airports you mentioned are all 1990-2000 creations, and all of them invovled setting up of an entire new airport in large land reserves. Compare that to the challenges of existing airports which have to grow in the space they are given now. London is one prime example of having each Terminal having a character all of its own, especially when one looks at the impending introduction of T5.

Anyway, that's a good question. I would be quite disturbed too, if every new terminal is going to mean the older ones look like dust boxes! ;)

Thaidane
March 15th, 2004, 03:50 PM
Now....THIS is what I call sophisticated design of an Airport. Looks just amazing in a simple way, I like it very much.:dooby:
Congrad to Singapore again for creating another great project for the region.

huaiwei
March 29th, 2004, 09:27 AM
Now....THIS is what I call sophisticated design of an Airport. Looks just amazing in a simple way, I like it very much.:dooby:
Congrad to Singapore again for creating another great project for the region.
Glad u like it! :D

The photos are down till the photohost gets upgraded. More will come when it is done!

babystan03
April 5th, 2004, 12:16 PM
I went to Changi T2 this weekend. A small part of the renovation was ok and I could foresee T2 to be more modern, futuristic and "glassy". I wish they could finish it faster. Also waiting anxiously for T3 as I already read the book posted by Huai Wei a year ago.

huaiwei
April 5th, 2004, 06:12 PM
Cool....the development must be quite fast. I was there about a month ago or something, and all I saw was large boards keeping the construction areas out of sight?

Julien
April 7th, 2004, 06:55 AM
I hope the renovation works in T2 do not take away that nice "cozzy" feeling that the current layout of the terminal provides. Modern and "glassy" is nice but I want Changi to keep that incredible warm feel that sets it apart from other modern airports like HK and KLIA.

And please remove this ugly new carpet ! Who the hell chose such ugly colors :bash:

huaiwei
April 7th, 2004, 02:28 PM
I hope the renovation works in T2 do not take away that nice "cozzy" feeling that the current layout of the terminal provides. Modern and "glassy" is nice but I want Changi to keep that incredible warm feel that sets it apart from other modern airports like HK and KLIA.

And please remove this ugly new carpet ! Who the hell chose such ugly colors :bash:
Haha! Which carpet? You have a picture of it? :D

RafflesCity
April 18th, 2004, 02:09 PM
Was at Changi recently and saw that they have completed 1 of the arches for the departure hall of T2 shown here.
http://www.changiairport.com.sg/media/Changi/images/content/PublicRelations/en/T2Upgrading.jpg

RafflesCity
April 18th, 2004, 02:12 PM
Some pics I took showing the construction progress of T3. (taken end of March 04)

http://img43.photobucket.com/albums/v133/RafflesCity/t3.jpg

http://img43.photobucket.com/albums/v133/RafflesCity/t3a.jpg

http://img43.photobucket.com/albums/v133/RafflesCity/t3b.jpg

huaiwei
April 18th, 2004, 03:07 PM
Wow...very rare shots indeed! Thanks for them. :D

RafflesCity
April 18th, 2004, 04:05 PM
Yup I was quite lucky. This time my plane landed using the runway next to T1, and had to taxi all the way to T2, so I got a rare air-side glimpse of the construction. :cool:

huaiwei
April 18th, 2004, 09:47 PM
....continued.....

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Terminal 3

Completion: 2007 (projected)
Annual Capacity: 20 million passengers
Configuration: Linear terminal design Single module with centralised passenger-processing taking place on two levels
Gross Floor Area: 331, 000 square metres

Before the design of T3 was opened up to input from specialists, the direction for the new terminal was outlined by its designers. Presented here are images of the new terminal along with two texts: a Statement of Design Intent and a Q&A with the lead voice in the Changi team, Teng Wai Man, who is its principal architect and visionary.

RafflesCity
April 18th, 2004, 10:10 PM
I realise the design is less avante-garde, but more emphasis has been placed on clarity, simplicity and greenery.

huaiwei
April 18th, 2004, 10:11 PM
Yeap! Well....here is a whole bunch of computer simulated views of the exterior and interior of the terminal:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829201.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829202.jpg

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huaiwei
April 18th, 2004, 10:17 PM
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huaiwei
April 19th, 2004, 12:08 AM
A Statement of Design Intent

On the path towards T3, we look for a balance between what we know and what we aspire to, between prudence and enthusiasm. We seek to resolve questions of efficiency and comfort, without ignoring the possibility of drama and excitement.

The traveller of the 21st Century will not be naive. He will know what it means to be well served, what his body needs and his spirit desires. He will expect a tonic for his weary spirit, an uplifting experience that great architecture brings.

How will this be achieved? How can the functional and perceptual be tackled, so that neither vision nor experience fails us? We have to look at all we have learnt. When we ask what is the recipe for the success of Changi, we must in our minds separate the operational from the aesthetic and understand how the two work in synergy.

We must first get the basics right. From signage to baggage sorting systems, we will ensure that the building delivers on its promise of swift service. Once these are in place, users look for the less tangible - the quality of light, the lightness of roofs and skylights, the feeling of openness and transparency, the presence of water and greenery. These are harder to measure and are more about preference and memory.

T3 will push the Changi experience further. It will be modern and expressive, bold in its simplicity yet friend) and sensitive to human needs. It will deliver as always a seamless multi-terminal complex.

Of the possible directions, there are two that best represent the new spirit:

• T3's roof will be unlike anything at Changi. It will be conceived as a single unified element that hovers over the building, connecting space and structure. It will be a wonder to behold for the way it lets light in and draws the eye through. It will also be free of services such as light and air-conditioning fixtures, which will be placed closer to the floor level, making them accessible and easier to maintain.

• T3 will be sensitive to the environment. From lush landscaping to the use of sustainable technologies, the building will be intelligent in the way it uses water and power, ultimately resulting in lower utility bills.

With an undertaking this momentous, one could be too cautious or too reckless. We recognise the challenge and opportunity of T3, its place in Changi Airport and Singapore in the 21St Century.

Extracted from "Singapore Changi Airport, T3 - Form in Context", a submission by PWD Consultants' Airport Development Division to the Civil Aviation Authority of Singapore, dated 21st March 1998

huaiwei
April 19th, 2004, 01:50 AM
Vehicular approach to the departure hall:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829211.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829212.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829213.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829214.jpg

huaiwei
April 20th, 2004, 07:12 PM
Entering the Departure Hall....

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829221.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829222.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829223.jpg

lumpia
April 21st, 2004, 12:29 PM
nice.. v. nice :)

huaiwei
April 21st, 2004, 01:43 PM
Hehe....alot more to come. :D

Sweeping view of interior:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829231.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829232.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829233.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829234.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829235.jpg

huaiwei
April 21st, 2004, 01:46 PM
The Departure Hall:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829061.jpg

huaiwei
April 22nd, 2004, 09:44 AM
Q+A with Teng Wai Man

No other Southeast Asian architect has quite the same breath of experience in airports. The success of Changi has made him much sought-after in locations as diverse as Seychelles, Manila, Fiji and China. Over the last 20 years, Teng Wai Man actively designed or design-managed each of Changi's terminal-related projects. He now heads the team at PWD Consultants' Airport Development Division (ADD) that will deliver T3. In a candid interview, he reflects on the evolution of airports and Changi.

Let's start with the airport. What are your thoughts on the architecture of airports?

The same as for architecture in general: that it seems to have become removed from the reality of its users. Architects - or maybe I should say the way architecture is presented by the architectural media - has divorced the building from its occupants. They have become its garnish, when they should be the primary ingredient. As a profession we sometimes subscribe to an inbred logic and a private audience.

Are you suggesting that architects don't pay enough attention to the way people see their buildings or do you think there is there a fundamental problem?

It's a fundamental problem. The way we define 'good' is askew. It shouldn't simply be a case of asking, "What do people want?" It should be designing with their eyes.

Is there a danger here of becoming overly pragmatic? Worse still, of ending up with the kitsch one sees in the Singapore suburbs. Is that not a reflection of what people want?

First, you have to distinguish between the public and private realms. The balance between public good and private entitlement shifts across the spectrum of buildings. For residential projects, yes, the owner is king. Even if you and I disagree with his preference we have to respect his rights. As designers we have the ultimate prerogative of turning down his commission. With an airport a designer must consider the needs of a community of users where there can be conflicting needs and preferences. Here, the architect becomes arbitrator.

Second, 'pragmatic' does not imply the absence of vision.

RafflesCity
May 3rd, 2004, 08:53 PM
I was at Changi last Friday and could see that the construction has progressed rapidly, with huge structures seen. In fact if they wanted they could complete it much faster than 2008 IMO.

heirloom
May 4th, 2004, 01:57 AM
from the taxi on 26.4.04

http://img16.photobucket.com/albums/v47/sybarite/singapore/IMGP4521.jpg

huaiwei
May 4th, 2004, 11:31 AM
Wow! I see the roof! :banana:!

Raffie, they might actually complete it but hold back its opening?

babystan03
May 4th, 2004, 12:08 PM
Wow! I see the roof! :banana:!

Raffie, they might actually complete it but hold back its opening?

If passenger traffic rise are encouraging, perhaps they might want to open it early??? :D

RafflesCity
May 6th, 2004, 06:26 AM
I never thought about it. I thought they'd spread out the construction till 2008, but looks like they will build at normal speed?

Who knows maybe they say the will open in 2008 but suddenly open earlier and surprise our rivals? LOL

schmidt
May 8th, 2004, 02:05 AM
Nice interior, but the roof makes me wanna puke :puke:

babystan03
May 8th, 2004, 04:57 AM
I supposed the roof design is of a aquired taste.....just as some might not like durians??

heirloom
May 8th, 2004, 05:03 AM
hrmm not acquired taste perhaps maybe just hate / love it.. but i suppose this roof has less of such an effect than the durians.

babystan03
May 8th, 2004, 05:06 AM
I actually happen to like the roof......it kinda stand out in a way bjork stand out in the music scene.....

Kinda weird kinda messy....yet unique and charismatic........ :)

RafflesCity
May 14th, 2004, 12:42 PM
This kind of roof has to be appreciated for how it lets the light through. Beauty in functionality.

heirloom
May 14th, 2004, 01:17 PM
mmm i dont think it's really bjork... bjork would be perhaps a gaudi? i think this is more like.. a faye wong - subscribes to the masses (glassiness) yet with very individual quirk (the sunlight-reactive roof) and thus very practical (different yet popular).

huaiwei
May 15th, 2004, 10:18 AM
Nice interior, but the roof makes me wanna puke :puke:
Hahaa...most renderings tend to make the subject look prettier then they are...I wonder if in this case, it will be the opposite?

Well..we just hope so then? :D

vvill
May 15th, 2004, 05:34 PM
the design of the airport is architecturally boring. i really don't know what's wrong with SOM these days. most of their recent projects are very disappointing (say SOM's scheme for the WTC redevelopment competition)

i mean they can't really put a bloody box there and just play a bit with the roof to make it slightly more interesting. even a first year architectural student knows how to do that.

huaiwei
May 15th, 2004, 05:39 PM
the design of the airport is architecturally boring. i really don't know what's wrong with SOM these days. most of their recent projects are very disappointing (say SOM's scheme for the WTC redevelopment competition)

i mean they can't really put a bloody box there and just play a bit with the roof to make it slightly more interesting. even a first year architectural student knows how to do that.
Actually....SOM designed only the roof! :D

babystan03
May 15th, 2004, 05:51 PM
the design of the airport is architecturally boring. i really don't know what's wrong with SOM these days. most of their recent projects are very disappointing (say SOM's scheme for the WTC redevelopment competition)

i mean they can't really put a bloody box there and just play a bit with the roof to make it slightly more interesting. even a first year architectural student knows how to do that.

At first this seems "professional".....then in another thread I saw "go CX!!".....then in the previous thread I saw "SOM only design the roof"......

Suddenly everything seems so clear.....:D

vvill
May 15th, 2004, 11:13 PM
At first this seems "professional".....then in another thread I saw "go CX!!".....then in the previous thread I saw "SOM only design the roof"......

Suddenly everything seems so clear.....:D

i'm sorry. but i don't understand the statement you're trying to establish here.

vvill
May 15th, 2004, 11:14 PM
Actually....SOM designed only the roof! :D

that makes a bit more sense. :)

huaiwei
May 15th, 2004, 11:23 PM
that makes a bit more sense. :)
Hehe....cant really "blame" you for not realising it coz I have not finished posting the entire text from the book which accompanied the pictures (still havent finished posting the pictures too...its exhasting!). There was a mention of this somewhere I think.

Anyway, in a sense they cant make the new terminal's design a complete departure from the existing two terminals, as it actually forms one of the "legs" in what looks like a claw-shaped configuration for the three terminals. In fact, the original plan was for Terminal 3 to be an exact dublicate of Terminal 2, as mentioned in the beginning of the text above, but they decided to be a let their hair loose a little I suppose. :D So the body itself still stays rather boxy and conventional, but the hairstyle was quite...errm......permed-up?

I will try to post a graphic map of all three terminals later if I can find it. :)

vvill
May 16th, 2004, 01:40 AM
Hehe....cant really "blame" you for not realising it coz I have not finished posting the entire text from the book which accompanied the pictures (still havent finished posting the pictures too...its exhasting!). There was a mention of this somewhere I think.

Anyway, in a sense they cant make the new terminal's design a complete departure from the existing two terminals, as it actually forms one of the "legs" in what looks like a claw-shaped configuration for the three terminals. In fact, the original plan was for Terminal 3 to be an exact dublicate of Terminal 2, as mentioned in the beginning of the text above, but they decided to be a let their hair loose a little I suppose. :D So the body itself still stays rather boxy and conventional, but the hairstyle was quite...errm......permed-up?

I will try to post a graphic map of all three terminals later if I can find it. :)

so who's the architect for terminal 3? if som is just doing the roof.

huaiwei
May 16th, 2004, 02:01 AM
so who's the architect for terminal 3? if som is just doing the roof.
CPG Corporation (refering to post #35 (http://skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=1107848&postcount=35)). It is a privatised film which was once a governmental department responsible for infrastructural projects. I suppose this explains ALOT about why it is a box now? :D

babystan03
May 16th, 2004, 12:38 PM
i'm sorry. but i don't understand the statement you're trying to establish here.

Oh thats all right.....so long as you understand SOM merely design the roof....that would be good enough.....:D

huaiwei
May 16th, 2004, 10:36 PM
btw vvill....I managed to find a map I scanned from the papers some time ago...hope this helps! :)

http://img31.photobucket.com/albums/v94/huaiwei/Maps/afca404a.jpg

RafflesCity
May 16th, 2004, 10:41 PM
Is this the latest design or some old blueprint?

huaiwei
May 16th, 2004, 10:42 PM
Is this the latest design or some old blueprint?
It is the "latest." It was printed in a huge advertisement commemorating the commencement of construction at that time?

RafflesCity
May 16th, 2004, 10:57 PM
oh ok..it looked kinda 'old' I guess it was the newspaper.

Can see that the main section of T3 looks bigger than T2 :cool:

huaiwei
May 17th, 2004, 09:51 AM
oh ok..it looked kinda 'old' I guess it was the newspaper.

Can see that the main section of T3 looks bigger than T2 :cool:
I scanned it in, and have to tweak it so that the graphic looks clearer and the usual halftone pixels are less visible. :) Be assured that the map is accurate, but I suspect the planes there dont seem to be fully accurate thou. They dont seem to tally with the number of aerobridges! :D

heirloom
May 17th, 2004, 11:01 AM
the planes look alright to the untrained eye (mine) though... how many aerobridges are there?

RafflesCity
May 19th, 2004, 12:39 PM
I scanned it in, and have to tweak it so that the graphic looks clearer and the usual halftone pixels are less visible. :) Be assured that the map is accurate, but I suspect the planes there dont seem to be fully accurate thou. They dont seem to tally with the number of aerobridges! :D

you actually counted? :D

maybe they used the biggest planes possible to fit them in. In reality planes come in different sizes.

huaiwei
May 19th, 2004, 02:30 PM
you actually counted? :D

maybe they used the biggest planes possible to fit them in. In reality planes come in different sizes.
Hm...I used to have a record of the number of aerobridges and even their respective gate numbers. I cant remember where that record is now, but I remember comparing that with this map, and they dont tally very well....

Maybe I should pay another visit to the airport and check the number of aerobridges again. :D

babystan03
May 19th, 2004, 02:34 PM
Hm...I used to have a record of the number of aerobridges and even their respective gate numbers. I cant remember where that record is now, but I remember comparing that with this map, and they dont tally very well....

Maybe I should pay another visit to the airport and check the number of aerobridges again. :D

I hope that bodes well with the security team.....haha...:D

babystan03
May 28th, 2004, 06:10 AM
Another picture taken on 26/5/04 from Changi Terminal 1.........

http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN0342.jpg

huaiwei
June 5th, 2004, 01:43 AM
the planes look alright to the untrained eye (mine) though... how many aerobridges are there?
I finally managed to get the info from the airport itself....I realised the graphic was actually quite accurate, except for one error in the North Pier of Terminal 1! :D

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829DSC05671.jpg

huaiwei
June 11th, 2004, 06:51 PM
Q+A with Teng Wai Man (Continued)

If the architect is merely arbitrator, wherein lies your authority?

I'm not suggesting that we should design by consensus. I am arguing that the designers are too often swayed by arguments of style and space or by what we perceive, as a professional community, to be the forces of history. We should start by asking what, at the heart of this project brief, is the human condition? This is not an argument for functionalism. There is more to the human condition than activity alone. We need to understand perceptions and realities. The history of humanity is the history of competing realities.

We need to start by asking what do the users of this building feel? What do they fear? Is their experience constant throughout the time they spend in the building? Does it depend on their gender, age or nationality?

My job is to bring together these needs, requirements and aspirations and integrate them into a cohesive entity, one that is more than the sum of its parts. The problem is that many of these user-needs are unspoken. You will not find them in the project brief. Often clients are incapable of articulating them, so the primary task of an architect is that of seeking out and finding insights into the human condition. He must then bring to bear technical and administrative skills that can help translate vision to reality.

Can questions about the human condition be answered during the design process?

Yes. Sometimes through observation and sometimes by extrapolation. Quite often by simply asking people what they think. It doesn't have to be a scientific process of data collection... nothing elaborate or expensive. The inclination to understand the human condition is in us: it is the ability to empathise, to extract from our own experiences a close approximation of another's. But we don't use this faculty much. When an architect receives a project brief, the first impulse is to look for similar buildings in magazines or books. The priorities of space, structural expressiveness and stylistic innovation live on as do the mistakes with regard to climate, clarity, scale.

Is this approximation harder with some buildings such as airports?

With airports there is more to reckon with - a greater number of people, more user groups, complex information systems. The overlap and conflict between realities can be bewildering at first. But it takes a little longer to sort out, that's all.

babystan03
June 18th, 2004, 07:29 PM
We need to start by asking what do the users of this building feel? What do they fear? Is their experience constant throughout the time they spend in the building? Does it depend on their gender, age or nationality?


Wow....extremely fine details that go into the design of T3......I think the ideology is the same as Nokia's human technology, abeilt we are talking about designing a user friendly airport here......Hopes it turn out to be something great...... :)

RafflesCity
June 20th, 2004, 06:09 AM
I am sure it will, I cant wait to see more photography and books when it opens :yes:

huaiwei
June 20th, 2004, 09:59 PM
I am still waiting for the photos to show up again before I can continue posting more. Damn! :bash: :D

huaiwei
July 11th, 2004, 10:48 PM
Finally the pictures are showing again! :banana:

Here are some cool panos to continue on the thread. Looks like the Departure Hall:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829051a.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829051b.jpg

Taipei101
July 11th, 2004, 11:20 PM
Perfect size for the A380.

Taipei101
July 11th, 2004, 11:21 PM
But that is increadibly spectacular. Especially for an airport. :drunk:

babystan03
July 12th, 2004, 05:35 AM
The sliver and white scheme looks very nice and futuristic........:D

huaiwei
July 12th, 2004, 07:16 AM
The sliver and white scheme looks very nice and futuristic........:D
I dont know if it will be the definite choice for the final scheme thou. The flooring needs better treatment for one thing! :D

Taipei101
July 12th, 2004, 08:56 AM
So it is only a plan for that colour scheme?

babystan03
July 12th, 2004, 09:05 AM
So it is only a plan for that colour scheme?

Not so sure whether it's the final colour scheme as it's just a rendering......:)

Airport Addict
July 12th, 2004, 01:02 PM
The T3 terminal "box" with the one-of-a-kind roof will most likely be the most specatacular new airport building when it opens. At last, something different above the heads of the departing passengers. After all, all other new airport terminals that have come on stream in the past decade have well-nigh identical curved roofs with exposed steal girders underneath: the novelty value has well and truly worn off.

However, there's one area (no, two to be precise) that is possibly problematic.
The two trapezoid-shaped extensions (holdrooms, presumably) immediately adjacent to the terminal building are drawn with five double airbridges each. At five 747s that's approx. two thousand people, at three 380s and two smaller planes in between that's even more. How do they all fit into that thing simultaneously - how will that be compatible with Changi's image of a spacious place?

babystan03
July 12th, 2004, 01:45 PM
The T3 terminal "box" with the one-of-a-kind roof will most likely be the most specatacular new airport building when it opens. At last, something different above the heads of the departing passengers. After all, all other new airport terminals that have come on stream in the past decade have well-nigh identical curved roofs with exposed steal girders underneath: the novelty value has well and truly worn off.

However, there's one area (no, two to be precise) that is possibly problematic.
The two trapezoid-shaped extensions (holdrooms, presumably) immediately adjacent to the terminal building are drawn with five double airbridges each. At five 747s that's approx. two thousand people, at three 380s and two smaller planes in between that's even more. How do they all fit into that thing simultaneously - how will that be compatible with Changi's image of a spacious place?

No worries about the spaciousness thing. Changi philosophy has always to build in excess of demand.....So even if the total capacity for T1 & T2 is 44 million per year(With the addition of T3, it will stretch to 64 million), the amount of passenger is merely about 29 million (though it might stretch to 30 million this year) at the present. Hence, it's highly unlikely that there will be any crowding. ;)

Should there be any sign of strong traffic growth, there will be T4 and T5 in the future.....;)

heirloom
July 12th, 2004, 04:17 PM
wow the departure hall looks great! will singapore airlines be moving to terminal 3?

babystan03
July 12th, 2004, 04:18 PM
wow the departure hall looks great! will singapore airlines be moving to terminal 3?

Of course......T3 was built with SIA (and it's A380) in mind...... ;) :cheers:

huaiwei
July 12th, 2004, 05:30 PM
The T3 terminal "box" with the one-of-a-kind roof will most likely be the most specatacular new airport building when it opens. At last, something different above the heads of the departing passengers. After all, all other new airport terminals that have come on stream in the past decade have well-nigh identical curved roofs with exposed steal girders underneath: the novelty value has well and truly worn off.

However, there's one area (no, two to be precise) that is possibly problematic.
The two trapezoid-shaped extensions (holdrooms, presumably) immediately adjacent to the terminal building are drawn with five double airbridges each. At five 747s that's approx. two thousand people, at three 380s and two smaller planes in between that's even more. How do they all fit into that thing simultaneously - how will that be compatible with Changi's image of a spacious place?
Hmm...about the trapezoid thingy, the problem is we dont have the floor plans yet, and we dont know what is in there. Whatever the case, note that it least it isnt like in Terminal 2 opposite, which has two piers with alot more gates then the few for Terminal 3.

http://img31.photobucket.com/albums/v94/huaiwei/Maps/afca404a.jpg

Interesting observation there thou! ;)

babystan03
July 13th, 2004, 10:09 AM
A rendering from the SOM website.....

http://www.som.com/resources/projects/3/0/2/changiterm3bridge_877.jpg

Airport Addict
July 13th, 2004, 12:25 PM
Hmm...about the trapezoid thingy, the problem is we dont have the floor plans yet, and we dont know what is in there.

Just unearthed this link from the depths of the web:
http://www.wilsonassoc.com/our_work/?s=59
That's mostly very artsy and vague. But! look at the line of aircraft getting ever darker towards the wording "Changi Terminal 3" (next to the word "lighting"). Right there is a section of the departures level floorplan. Squint carefully: it features holdroom seating laid out in a circular manner in the trapezoid. And very narrow alleys leading to each gate. So, line up 500 pax waiting to board in that alley, maybe two simultaneously...where's the relaxed spaciousness then?

RafflesCity
July 13th, 2004, 03:49 PM
I tried v hard to look at it but have problems making it out..anyway the ceilings seem to be very high :)

babystan03
July 13th, 2004, 03:52 PM
Emm....according to some insider's info, the distance between the aerobridges would be about at least 20 metres apart.....so I dun think the "trapezium area will be that small........:eek:

heirloom
July 13th, 2004, 04:51 PM
hrnmmm.. who is insider?

babystan03
July 13th, 2004, 04:53 PM
hrnmmm.. who is insider?

Can't say lah...people's job at stake....:wallbash:.....:D

huaiwei
July 13th, 2004, 07:29 PM
Can't say lah...people's job at stake....:wallbash:.....:D
Muahahaa....ok I know I know. I wont demand for it in public. :D

Anyway....I doubt those are finalised plans of the interior, as those can be changed drastically over the course of design and even during the building stage?

babystan03
July 16th, 2004, 03:37 PM
Interior of T3 from http://www.woodhead.com.au/offices/27/office.html :

http://www.woodhead.com.au/images/158/changiterminal.jpg

http://www.woodhead.com.au/images/510/changiairport31.jpg

http://www.woodhead.com.au/images/120/changiairport3.jpg

http://www.woodhead.com.au/images/515/changiairport3piers1.jpg
The piers

http://www.woodhead.com.au/images/124/changiairport3retail.jpg

http://www.woodhead.com.au/images/520/changiairport3retail1.jpg
The retail section

http://www.woodhead.com.au/images/629/changiterminal1.jpg
A floorplan of T3....dun noe wat those circular things in the trapezium area are though.....I suspect it's rows of chairs......

ignoramus
July 16th, 2004, 05:23 PM
From the rendering, Terminal 3 looks way more modern than airport of the airports that I have seen thus far. The best thing is, it still has that inviting look to it. I mean there's all this flora and fauna admist the greyish structures. Airports in Asia nowadays typically are very cold. They are all so sleek and grey. Nothing warm.

Taipei101
July 17th, 2004, 12:48 AM
I hope the gardens on Airport Boulevard stays the same.

Taipei101
July 17th, 2004, 12:50 AM
Not so sure whether it's the final colour scheme as it's just a rendering......:)
They do look good on the airport.

huaiwei
July 19th, 2004, 02:46 AM
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829071.jpg

huaiwei
July 19th, 2004, 03:37 AM
Q+A with Teng Wai Man (Continued)

Coming back to the question of airport architecture, what is your criticism?

It's not so much a criticism of the airport itself as it is of the way it is discussed. A building cannot exist in a bubble. It's place in time goes beyond the rhetoric of architectural discourse. It upsets me when airports are talked about as if they were a private discourse on geometry and form. I contend that you cannot talk about Changi without also talking about aviation history. You cannot discuss Singapore's airport without understanding a little bit about Singapore. A building merely reflects its larger reality. And the better it is at reflecting this reality - of connecting people, place and time - the more interesting it becomes. Look at the architectural icons we know: the Opera House in Sydney or the Eiffel Tower. They became symbols of nationhood and technology not because the architectural community or the politicians dictated it so. They became important because they mirrored a reality that was already out there.

What about the making of the modern architectural icon, buildings designed to become symbols of regeneration and growth?

I think the jury is still out on those types of projects. They may have received considerable press, but I would argue that the true test is time. In an era of media hype, we are too quick to attribute greatness. This is not a critique of the buildings themselves nor the forces that created them. But something other than the architect or politician will decide their place in history.

When we set out to create Changi we had no idea how big it would become. This has not been - in all honesty - a result of an architectural discourse. It's been a process of election, a truly democratic decision. People have decided this airport has a place in their hearts.

But this decision has been artificial in one sense. Hasn't Changi been voted to its place through polls carried out by travel magazines of its readers?

In the beginning, yes - and we took it all with a pinch of salt. But the momentum of Changi's success has been tremendous. If you look at the list of accolades there is little doubt that not one but many groups think that Changi does what it does extremely well.

But really, what I am talking about is its bond with Singaporeans - which is a separate audience altogether. Changi has earned a place in their hearts, not just the frequent travellers. In my opinion that will be its true legacy - that it is a symbol of a nation.

It's been said that Changi Airport is functional. What is your response to that?

And so it is. It functions extremely well.

So what do you think makes it architecturally significant?

That it does its job well and does it in a creative way; that it sets standards with which others are forced to reckon. That it has grown organically and eloquently and managed to hold on - after 20 years in existence - to its design coherence. I think that our truest achievement is that we have given Singaporeans a building that they can be proud of. It gives us a sense of national pride and optimism. The airport has transcended function and become an icon. How many buildings in Asia can you name that have done that?

Surely Changi's success is due to its service standards?

Yes. And the Civil Aviation Authority of Singapore does an amazing job of keeping those standards high. But that's not all. Changi's design is part of those standards. It reflects them. It amplifies them. Whether we are designing directional signs or planning a new terminal, we ask ourselves again and again: "How will this be used? How will the passenger see this? Will this be a memorable experience?" The building is like a glove that fits the hand that welcomes the visitor. Try giving a handshake with an oven mitt (laughs).

huaiwei
July 20th, 2004, 04:30 AM
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829241.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829242.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829243.jpg

huaiwei
July 20th, 2004, 09:30 PM
What were your first thoughts when Terminal 2 opened?

To be honest - and few architects will admit this about their work - it left me with a sense of awe, bordering on terror. You rarely see in your mind's eye the full effect of what you have created. All I could think at the time: 'My God. This is huge!' The scale was bewildering.

Were there criticisms of the building?

Of course. There were those who declared it TOO big and empty. But in a sense, they missed the point. In T2 we created a canvas, not a portrait. All too often we expect a building on opening day to have that lived-in feel. T2 took its time but it's there now. It has matured with the years. It has lent itself to change. The edges have softened. This building that seemed cold and uninviting on first encounter was saying the exact opposite. It was asking you to leave an imprint.

What were your inspirations at the time when T2 was on the drawing board?

Let me first say that I dislike trends. When the interior designers for T2 proposed stylised traveller palms, I said 'no!' I look for a timeless quality in architecture, the coming together of space and light. The building is a stage set for people, not an exercise in High Art or Pastiche, screaming for attention. The books I read as a student were Pattern Language and Places for People, which were about the integration of elements that make up the environment - landscaping, seating, handrails - for a setting in which the needs of the individual are paramount.

I recall students of architecture in the 1980s rushing out to buy the Charles Jencks' book on Postmodernism…

(laughs) Yes. There were pressures to be resisted. Postmodernism is like the Disco of architecture. We are a little embarrassed now to admit that we enjoyed Saturday Night Fever.

Did you give in to Postmodernism? Just a little, perhaps?

(laughs) No... not really. It was never my thing. I admired Kenzo Tange and Arthur Erickson. I was excited by the spatial gymnastics of John Portman - inspired by the restraint of Leandro Locsin.

huaiwei
July 22nd, 2004, 10:05 PM
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829081.jpg

huaiwei
July 26th, 2004, 11:05 PM
Coming back to the Airport, what do you think of the new airports in the region - in particular the ones in Kuala Lumpur and Hong Kong? What can we learn from them?

They are excellent buildings. And they teach us much about the integration of technology and architecture, and the drive to humanise the airport. They also demonstrate that as designers, we need to take onboard a whole new set of issues. Airport design has become more complex.

For instance?

Green issues, energy simulations, intelligent facades that work with the climate. Complex roof systems that filter daylight collect water and act as solar collectors. These are part of the bigger agenda of the 21St century. At ADD we have acquired these skills or are working with people who are experts in their fields.

What about the dramatic roofs of these buildings?

That's not new and certainly over-hyped. Airports have always been metaphors. The media makes much of fancy roofs because they make for great photographs and captions. I think the real innovations are harder to photograph. It's harder to photograph simplicity and clarity.

Airports today are trying to be simpler in layout. Designers went the wrong way in the 1960s and 1970s with complex movement routes and opaque planning. The real challenge I think is to keep it simple. Not so simple that it is boring, of course.

If none of this is new, why haven't we seen it in Changi?

If you are talking about technology, much of it is invisible. Information technology for instance has made our buildings smarter. T2 had an advantage over T1, as will T3 over T1 and T2. If you refer to questions of clarity, I think you will find that Changi made that a part of its agenda in the 1970s with T1, long before it became fashionable to say so. But if you are referring to metaphors of form, this goes beyond the simple question of how an airport looks.

It is also a question of how it works, how easy it is to maintain, how expensive the technology is that goes into making these elaborate roofs. An airport is as much a reflection of its users as it is of the designers, and even more a reflection of its owners and operators. In the past, there was skepticism (amongst our clients) of doing things for architectural effect - which was I think justified after problems with recent designer terminals elsewhere in the world.

We've taken Changi - its many extensions and renovations since it opened in 1981 - one step at a time. Look at some of the concept proposals for Terminal 2 Extension in 1991: they were more cutting-edge than Terminal 1 Expansion (completed in 2000). We can only go as far as we are permitted. Sometimes far too much credit is given to designers.

So what changed with Terminal 1 Expansion?

Our clients agreed to push the frontier that little bit further. We are all more confident of the way in which building form and service delivery converge so there is greater room for exploration. The project has been about creating an experience of engineered quality.

Does it signify a shift in design approach?

Not in the sense that the experience should be people-centred. And that means having a building that can deliver a high standard of comfort in a manner that is easy to manage and maintain. If you are looking for the radical in Changi, you will not find it. It's been a process of evolution more than revolution.

But yes, we are trying to bring in more light, which is the key to creating an experience that is more humane. It adds depth and variety. Daylight enlivens, animates and clarifies. The humanisation of the airport begins with creating a sense of clarity. As a passenger you want views of parked aircraft - which is reassuring - and you need a sense of where you are in the larger airport complex.

Clarity is the first and hardest rule of airport design. There are so many demands on a passenger's attention that making the experience lucid and coherent is an enormous challenge. It begins with keeping circulation and movement options simple. You try to give the traveller a sense of where he is, all the time. Signs can only go so far because so much of what we know comes from our understanding of the whole. We deduce our location within the larger whole by what we can see. This means a passenger needs clear line-of-sight and views to the outside as often as possible. These principles are already in place with T1 and T2. What you are seeing with T1 E is the opening up of the building to the outside and a simultaneous refinement of the inside.

With the interiors there is now a smoother design statement in which everything is integrated, a deliberate attempt to break free from the 'air-con-and-light-fittings-in-the-ceiling' approach. These elements are now on the walls, on the floors, tucked into columns. You experience the building as something that is larger than the sum of its parts.

huaiwei
July 29th, 2004, 11:18 AM
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829251.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829252.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829253.jpg

Airport Addict
July 29th, 2004, 12:00 PM
Looking at the overviews of the whole terminal "campus" in its completed state, I can't help but wonder: where will the parking lots/garages for T3 be at?

Just a number I picked up recently on this subject: Gatwick, at around 30 million annual passengers, has 45 000 parking spaces for cars...

ignoramus
July 30th, 2004, 02:16 PM
The parking lots at Terminal 3 will be at its basement levels. Terminal 3 utilises basement parking whereas Terminals 1 & 2 utilises both surface and multi level parking facilities. This information is found in the book that huaiwei gets his scanned pictures from.

huaiwei
July 30th, 2004, 04:58 PM
The parking lots at Terminal 3 will be at its basement levels. Terminal 3 utilises basement parking whereas Terminals 1 & 2 utilises both surface and multi level parking facilities. This information is found in the book that huaiwei gets his scanned pictures from.
I didnt see the information about the carparking, but yeah, I didnt see any visible car park areas either.

Btw, the surface carpark is only for Terminal 1 actually, while the multi-level ones are for Terminal 2. Seems like we have advanced over time from surface to multi level to underground? :D

redstone
July 30th, 2004, 05:11 PM
Cool! :cool:

ignoramus
July 31st, 2004, 09:34 AM
I distinctly remember reading about it in that book. Try looking closer? Anyways basement parking is the way to go, no more long walks to the terminal. The departure hall is just 2 stories up. And parking facilities above ground are an eyesore.

huaiwei
August 1st, 2004, 07:37 AM
Checking out at the departure hall...

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829261.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829262.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829263.jpg

eyetoeye
August 1st, 2004, 01:21 PM
Renderings always make a place look messy......

huaiwei
August 1st, 2004, 05:39 PM
Messy? :D

Well like most folks here, we are just wondering just how this place is going to look like with a roof like that.....I dont know how successful renderings can be in simulating it!

redstone
August 1st, 2004, 05:48 PM
The roof looks really wierd, like trees' leaves.

Glass with sunshades again or what???

huaiwei
August 1st, 2004, 06:15 PM
The roof looks really wierd, like trees' leaves.

Glass with sunshades again or what???
I dont know....looks almost like a wiremesh with glass panels fixed in the mid-point of two edges and letting the whole thing rotate! :D

redstone
August 1st, 2004, 06:19 PM
Wah, so creatvie?Wierd?Can't think of a word to describe it unless we have clear renderings.

Just hope it isn't like Esplanade.Glass roof covered by sunshades.

huaiwei
August 2nd, 2004, 09:21 AM
Getting your way to the gate....

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829271.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829272.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829273.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829274.jpg

HasanB
August 2nd, 2004, 12:39 PM
As far as i can tell theyve still kept the carpets at T3, so keeping it constant with the rest of Changi. Is that the case? If so ive got to say that im happy about that, because the carpet was actually one of the things i really liked about Changi, im sure lots of people disgree with me on this one!

huaiwei
August 2nd, 2004, 01:29 PM
Haha.....yeah probably! :D But I doubt the renderings are showing any clues about the carpet design...looks more like approximate renderings to me?

babystan03
August 15th, 2004, 08:50 AM
Haha.....yeah probably! :D But I doubt the renderings are showing any clues about the carpet design...looks more like approximate renderings to me?

Yup nothing is final until we see the real thing.....:yes:

huaiwei
August 16th, 2004, 10:20 PM
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829091.jpg

babystan03
August 17th, 2004, 12:57 AM
^
I notice the interior design of T3, they try to add some curves to the interior, maybe to prevent it from getting too boxy?? :lol:

huaiwei
August 18th, 2004, 12:58 AM
^
I notice the interior design of T3, they try to add some curves to the interior, maybe to prevent it from getting too boxy?? :lol:
Curves? But the roof is still as straight as anything right? ;)

Anyway I think this rendering might be based on that early conceptual interior plan? Might not be the same by now?

babystan03
August 29th, 2004, 05:19 PM
Curves? But the roof is still as straight as anything right? ;)

Anyway I think this rendering might be based on that early conceptual interior plan? Might not be the same by now?

Not sure about it.....for now we just have to stretch our imagination into this picture......:lol:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN30981.jpg

babystan03
September 6th, 2004, 07:40 AM
T3(4/9/04).......

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN31031.jpg

DTGR
September 6th, 2004, 11:52 AM
It does look kind of weird! actually it looks more like a shopping mall than a terminal.Is it bad? I dont think so...It looks unique in a way! cant wait to see it!

huaiwei
September 8th, 2004, 07:59 AM
It does look kind of weird! actually it looks more like a shopping mall than a terminal.Is it bad? I dont think so...It looks unique in a way! cant wait to see it!
Haha....you refering to the last picture?

Yeah the rendering would have been mistaken for a mall probably if not for the numerous SIA girls in it!

babystan03
September 10th, 2004, 05:07 PM
Haha....you refering to the last picture?

Yeah the rendering would have been mistaken for a mall probably if not for the numerous SIA girls in it!

Haha...I'm not surprised that it looks like a mall since it's the duty-free shopping area.....:yes:

huaiwei
September 11th, 2004, 10:05 AM
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829101.jpg

babystan03
September 11th, 2004, 11:18 AM
^
the previous rendering looks like a mall.....I wonder what this one looks like.....:lol:

Ijud
September 11th, 2004, 12:04 PM
Looks like a hotel mebbe?! :jk:

heirloom
September 11th, 2004, 12:16 PM
convnetion hall? the rectangular white tiles on column in rendering llooks like my toilet...

Ijud
September 11th, 2004, 12:26 PM
... but I don't think they are using tiles for those columns!?

heirloom
September 11th, 2004, 12:39 PM
what then?

Ijud
September 11th, 2004, 01:27 PM
mebbe the same type with this one (the white rectangular panels)?!

http://img73.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN13371.jpg

heirloom
September 11th, 2004, 02:25 PM
yar... haha my toilet tiles are similar

Ijud
September 11th, 2004, 02:47 PM
yar... haha my toilet tiles are similar

Serious?? That's cool dude!!! How about the skylights... does ur toilet has it too?? :jk:

Btw wat's the current %tage of construction done for terminal 3?? Izit more than 50%?? Just can't wait for this babe to complete and the new bkk!!! :)

heirloom
September 11th, 2004, 03:53 PM
uh unfortunately no :(

they'll probably finish t3 in 2006. but open in 2008

babystan03
September 11th, 2004, 05:07 PM
uh unfortunately no :(

they'll probably finish t3 in 2006. but open in 2008

If they finish in 2006....that could mean that they might open earlier than 2008...:eek:

huaiwei
September 11th, 2004, 07:03 PM
Er....I seriously doubt that T3 is going to be finished that quickly. There is simply no point rushing it forward, as we dont need the capacity now, and the longer it drags, the more the construction industry benefits! :D

babystan03
September 12th, 2004, 05:26 AM
Er....I seriously doubt that T3 is going to be finished that quickly. There is simply no point rushing it forward, as we dont need the capacity now, and the longer it drags, the more the construction industry benefits! :D

True but then I'm a little anxious how it turns out........:lol:

ignoramus
September 12th, 2004, 07:07 AM
I think it will still open in 2008 as scheduled...but it will probably be completed in 2007 in time for testing?

Cause looking at the progress in comparison to the progress at Bangkok's new airport, Bangkok's airport's structure and glass cladding is already partially done and it still needs another 18 months before opening...Singapore's T3 has only the structure in place... so it needs definitely more than 18 months...

babystan03
September 12th, 2004, 07:11 AM
I think it will still open in 2008 as scheduled...but it will probably be completed in 2007 in time for testing?

Cause looking at the progress in comparison to the progress at Bangkok's new airport, Bangkok's airport's structure and glass cladding is already partially done and it still needs another 18 months before opening...Singapore's T3 has only the structure in place... so it needs definitely more than 18 months...

Yup.....I certainly feel that they are not opening it till 2008.....if not why do they spend millions upgrading T2 and T1(the T2 upgrading will be done in mid 2006 btw).......:yes:

redstone
September 12th, 2004, 07:16 AM
http://www.meinhardt.com.au/media/userimages/imageB3279694739.jpg

Work on the new Glass Atria at Singapore's Changi Airport is now completed. Meinhardt provided structural design engineering of the glazing system and the tensioned cable structure of the two atria which are located at both end of the Mass Rapid Transit (MRT) Station box adjacent to Terminal 2 and the proposed Terminal 3 Changi Airport.The purpose of the Atria is to cover the links between the above ground airport terminals and below ground station, keeping weather out. The atria allow as much light in as possible and the facades to the Atria appear as transparent as possible with due consideration to the climate inside.
Each atrium is approximately 60m long by 20m wide by 36m high from base level. A 6m x 8m x 300mm thick reinforced concrete stair core rises from foundation level in one corner of each Atria. The core supports a 4.5m deep x 1.5m wide x 100mm thick tapered propped cantilever spine beam. The spine beam is supported at the other end by an 'A' frame column and stability truss. Secondary structural tie 'rib beams' spring from the spine beam each at 3cm centers. These rib beams which form a point at the facade end support prestressed cable facade trusses. These 1.2m deep lightweight facade trusses spaced at 3m centre around the perimeter of the atria are tensioned all the way to the ground where they are anchored. The glass facade is supported off these trusses.

Meinhardt Facade Technology (MFT), acting in conjuction with Meinhardt Singapore, worked closely with YKK Architectural Products (S) during the tender period, providing value engineering and concept optimisation. Documentation and justification prepared by MFT was also crucial to winning the job.

The glass walls are the largest of their type to be built. The use of very high strength materials and tension truss configuration has resulted in a slender, transparent Structure.

babystan03
September 12th, 2004, 07:18 AM
I dun noe about u guys....but everytime I arrived at Changi by MRT, I feel like exiting from the T3 exit.......:lol:

ignoramus
September 12th, 2004, 07:44 AM
me too...but unless I am with a group of friends I wouldn't dare go to the T3 end alone...hehe...

babystan03
September 12th, 2004, 07:46 AM
me too...but unless I am with a group of friends I wouldn't dare go to the T3 end alone...hehe...

Actually I did try to go the T3 end alone......even manage to talk to some tourist about T3 bcos they were wondering what the hell am I doing there....:lol:

heirloom
September 12th, 2004, 07:47 AM
Yup.....I certainly feel that they are not opening it till 2008.....if not why do they spend millions upgrading T2 and T1(the T2 upgrading will be done in mid 2006 btw)....

t3 is not going to accommodate all of changi's passengers... barely even a third! even if t3 were to ope in 2006 or earlier, t1 and t2 would still require upgrading.

ignoramus
September 12th, 2004, 07:49 AM
What did they ask you? How did it look like? They had nothing better to do but to ask you questions?

I loved the new fare gates at the T3 end when the extension had just opened...very sleek...gives an idea of how the old gates at the T2 end were to be replaced with contactless card readers only and with a much smaller gap between the gate flaps...the old gates looked so out of place...the gaps were so wide you could walk through it without inserting your magnetic card...

That was all I saw at the T3 end...beyond that it was quite dullish dark looking...

babystan03
September 12th, 2004, 07:51 AM
Yup.....I certainly feel that they are not opening it till 2008.....if not why do they spend millions upgrading T2 and T1(the T2 upgrading will be done in mid 2006 btw)....

t3 is not going to accommodate all of changi's passengers... barely even a third! even if t3 were to ope in 2006 or earlier, t1 and t2 would still require upgrading.

Especially T1....now it look even more "tired" when compared to T2.....:lol:

I certainly think they dun need to open T3 that soon cos there's also the budget terminal opening in 2006......:yes:

babystan03
September 12th, 2004, 07:54 AM
What did they ask you? How did it look like? They had nothing better to do but to ask you questions?

I loved the new fare gates at the T3 end when the extension had just opened...very sleek...gives an idea of how the old gates at the T2 end were to be replaced with contactless card readers only and with a much smaller gap between the gate flaps...the old gates looked so out of place...the gaps were so wide you could walk through it without inserting your magnetic card...

That was all I saw at the T3 end...beyond that it was quite dullish dark looking...

Actually they were also looking around the station when they saw me....haha.....:lol:

They were asking me standard stuff like how come they did not open this end of the gate loh......then I tell them T3.........:lol:

ignoramus
September 12th, 2004, 07:55 AM
Ya...but in my mind I still want it to open early no matter how impossible it is...want to see how they shift SIA operations to T3...the only one that I would be able to witness...back when T2 opened I didn't know what Changi Airport T2 was...when T1 opened I wasn't even born...

And I want to hear the new reports of how thousands of Singaporeans throng Changi T3 to witness the opening...and I demand to see the skylights at T3!

How is the People Mover System at Changi progressing?

ignoramus
September 12th, 2004, 07:56 AM
where did they look like they were from?

Haha, so cool. you were there like speaking confidently: ''well thats our T3, it hasn't been completed yet...''

babystan03
September 12th, 2004, 07:58 AM
where did they look like they were from?

Haha, so cool. you were there like speaking confidently: ''well thats our T3, it hasn't been completed yet...''

Actually they were from Australia......:yes:

But then I hope they dun find my "England" ok......:lol:

babystan03
September 12th, 2004, 08:01 AM
Ya...but in my mind I still want it to open early no matter how impossible it is...want to see how they shift SIA operations to T3...the only one that I would be able to witness...back when T2 opened I didn't know what Changi Airport T2 was...when T1 opened I wasn't even born...
I vaguely remember paying a visit to the newly opened T2 when I was very young.....but then now I can only remember one thing which is the skytrain....:lol:


And I want to hear the new reports of how thousands of Singaporeans throng Changi T3 to witness the opening...and I demand to see the skylights at T3!...

I think SMRT will be quite happy to see that....:lol:


How is the People Mover System at Changi progressing?

Not very sure about it....but the last time i went they were building the T1 station already....:yes:

Ijud
September 12th, 2004, 08:04 AM
The PMS will have 7 stations right?? 2@T1 and T2 and 3@T3 right??

babystan03
September 12th, 2004, 08:05 AM
The PMS will have 7 stations right?? 2@T1 and T2 and 3@T3 right??

Yup.......but not all are open to public.....some stations are built specially for transit/airside passengers.......:yes:

Ijud
September 12th, 2004, 08:07 AM
Oic!

heirloom
September 12th, 2004, 08:12 AM
the fare gates are different at t3 end? why dont they use it for the t2 end as well? take pics?

ignoramus
September 12th, 2004, 08:31 AM
The wide fare gates are no different from the ones at the T2 end now...

Back in early 2002 when we were still using the magnetic card system, the fare gates at the T2 end were instead the old ones...they just distanced each gate further from each other to achieve that wide gate effect...so it was odd to see such a huge gap in between the flaps...they were not designed for it...

The one at the T3 end were installed with the NEL ones right from the start as by the time the T3 end opened, the magnetic card system was already not in use...

babystan03
September 12th, 2004, 08:36 AM
The wide fare gates are no different from the ones at the T2 end now...

Back in early 2002 when we were still using the magnetic card system, the fare gates at the T2 end were instead the old ones...they just distanced each gate further from each other to achieve that wide gate effect...so it was odd to see such a huge gap in between the flaps...they were not designed for it...

The one at the T3 end were installed with the NEL ones right from the start as by the time the T3 end opened, the magnetic card system was already not in use...

Yup.....it's the same now.......:yes:

heirloom
September 12th, 2004, 08:55 AM
oh... alright.

huaiwei
September 13th, 2004, 06:57 AM
Actually they were also looking around the station when they saw me....haha.....:lol:

They were asking me standard stuff like how come they did not open this end of the gate loh......then I tell them T3.........:lol:
Muahahaa.....funny! Makes me wonder what you actually told them! :D

babystan03
September 13th, 2004, 12:02 PM
Muahahaa.....funny! Makes me wonder what you actually told them! :D

Something that make them think about coming back to Singapore........:lol:

huaiwei
September 13th, 2004, 06:01 PM
Something that make them think about coming back to Singapore........:lol:
Like what lah? :D

"ooo.......nice glass on the roof which might drop anytime, so you might wish to come back for the thrill?" ;)

babystan03
September 13th, 2004, 06:03 PM
Like what lah? :D

"ooo.......nice glass on the roof which might drop anytime, so you might wish to come back for the thrill?" ;)

Hahahaa.....actually they were frequent visitors to Singapore loh.....so it seems I dun need to waste too much time.......All I said was the airport opening in 2008....and they said.....I'm coming to Singapore by SIA then.....:lol:

huaiwei
September 15th, 2004, 05:59 PM
Hahahaa.....actually they were frequent visitors to Singapore loh.....so it seems I dun need to waste too much time.......All I said was the airport opening in 2008....and they said.....I'm coming to Singapore by SIA then.....:lol:
Woohoo! :D Yi Ju Liang De! ;)

babystan03
September 16th, 2004, 12:43 AM
Woohoo! :D Yi Ju Liang De! ;)

Or can say killing two birds with one stone (yi shi er niao)......more suitable for action movies fans.....:lol::lol:

huaiwei
September 17th, 2004, 09:14 AM
That sounds more like a literal translation of an English idiom loh! :lol:

Anyway, we need updates! :D

babystan03
September 17th, 2004, 04:18 PM
That sounds more like a literal translation of an English idiom loh! :lol:

Anyway, we need updates! :D

Updates coming soon......:yes:

huaiwei
September 17th, 2004, 08:13 PM
Q+A with Teng Wai Man (Continued)

It's been 20 years since Changi opened. What have been the biggest changes since then?

Building technology, primarily. For instance the choice of glass in the days of T1 was limited. Having too many windows or large areas of glazing then meant a phenomenal heat load on the building with higher energy bills or localised discomfort. Also you could never get a particular type of glass to do everything. In an airport you need the envelope to deliver sound attenuation, sunshading, low thermal transmission, high transparency. One of our biggest problems in T2 was finding a glass that could give a view out at night (laughs).

babystan03
September 21st, 2004, 04:15 PM
Q+A with Teng Wai Man (Continued)

It's been 20 years since Changi opened. What have been the biggest changes since then?

Building technology, primarily. For instance the choice of glass in the days of T1 was limited. Having too many windows or large areas of glazing then meant a phenomenal heat load on the building with higher energy bills or localised discomfort. Also you could never get a particular type of glass to do everything. In an airport you need the envelope to deliver sound attenuation, sunshading, low thermal transmission, high transparency. One of our biggest problems in T2 was finding a glass that could give a view out at night (laughs).

Glass seems to be the preferred materials this days, I wonder what could be next???

heirloom
September 21st, 2004, 04:38 PM
flesh perhaps..

huaiwei
September 21st, 2004, 10:38 PM
flesh perhaps..
You wish. Shall we skin you alive first for our prototype? :evil:

heirloom
September 22nd, 2004, 05:09 AM
skin me dead maybe, not alive. i was imagining reconstructing flesh, not actually taking from people who are alive haha that'd be gross.

babystan03
September 22nd, 2004, 05:01 PM
skin me dead maybe, not alive. i was imagining reconstructing flesh, not actually taking from people who are alive haha that'd be gross.

Emm it's VERY gross actually.....imagine walking under it....... :runaway:

heirloom
September 22nd, 2004, 05:14 PM
i remember seeing a programme where scientists tried to recreate muscle using synthetic materials as muscles are a lot stronger and all that.. it was black and sleek and quite beautiful.. but i think they were using it for robots not buildings :tongue2:

even red exposed flesh.. imagine a 30 storey atrium of red exposed flesh? so nice?!! as long as uhm you dont look too hard or try to vandalise.

huaiwei
September 23rd, 2004, 08:12 PM
i remember seeing a programme where scientists tried to recreate muscle using synthetic materials as muscles are a lot stronger and all that.. it was black and sleek and quite beautiful.. but i think they were using it for robots not buildings :tongue2:

even red exposed flesh.. imagine a 30 storey atrium of red exposed flesh? so nice?!! as long as uhm you dont look too hard or try to vandalise.
You are just plain sick lah.....

You can have your fleshy airport all for yourself! :D

heirloom
September 24th, 2004, 06:09 AM
Ok Dont Cry

babystan03
September 26th, 2004, 03:20 AM
Maybe leather airport as an alternative?? :lol: :jk:

huaiwei
September 28th, 2004, 10:27 PM
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829112.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829111.jpg

babystan03
September 29th, 2004, 12:44 AM
This is one long yet passenger friendly(travellator) passage.......:eek:

How does the T1 & T2 one looks like?? Any pictures??

huaiwei
September 30th, 2004, 04:23 PM
T1 and T2 supposed to look alike meh??

babystan03
October 1st, 2004, 12:27 AM
T1 and T2 supposed to look alike meh??

I seen b4......seems like not a big difference.......:yes:

They look like high class shopping malls with boarding gates.....:lol:

redstone
October 1st, 2004, 08:49 AM
So glassy...

huaiwei
October 3rd, 2004, 12:36 AM
I seen b4......seems like not a big difference.......:yes:

They look like high class shopping malls with boarding gates.....:lol:
Yeah..but I think the T1 gates actually look quite different and interesting from this one. Damn...I have not scanned the T1 photos yet! :bash: :D

babystan03
October 3rd, 2004, 02:57 AM
Yeah..but I think the T1 gates actually look quite different and interesting from this one. Damn...I have not scanned the T1 photos yet! :bash: :D

T1 photos?? Those from the same book(as the T3 ones)??

huaiwei
October 6th, 2004, 08:47 PM
T1 photos?? Those from the same book(as the T3 ones)??
Yeah...there are T1 and T2 photos too in that book....lots of views of the new extensions and so on!

babystan03
October 7th, 2004, 12:31 AM
Yeah...there are T1 and T2 photos too in that book....lots of views of the new extensions and so on!

Emm.....maybe show those in the changi upgrade thread??:D

huaiwei
October 7th, 2004, 10:52 PM
Emm.....maybe show those in the changi upgrade thread??:D
Can also lah...but I am going to really need to find time to scan all those photos! :D

babystan03
October 13th, 2004, 04:47 PM
Can also lah...but I am going to really need to find time to scan all those photos! :D

Ok.....no hurry......:)

But dun take too long........:lol: Usually take how long to scan one btw??

huaiwei
October 15th, 2004, 09:01 AM
Ok.....no hurry......:)

But dun take too long........:lol: Usually take how long to scan one btw??
Erm..its a coffee table book which is quite thick...all my Terminal 3 photos take up only about 1/4 of the pages in it, anf took me an afternoon to do! :eek:

babystan03
October 15th, 2004, 10:18 AM
Erm..its a coffee table book which is quite thick...all my Terminal 3 photos take up only about 1/4 of the pages in it, anf took me an afternoon to do! :eek:

Wah so long......:eek: Must praise you for your tremendous effort then.....:yes::D

I wonder if there will be a book solely on T3 next time once T3 opens??

babystan03
October 17th, 2004, 04:47 AM
I think it will still open in 2008 as scheduled...but it will probably be completed in 2007 in time for testing?

Cause looking at the progress in comparison to the progress at Bangkok's new airport, Bangkok's airport's structure and glass cladding is already partially done and it still needs another 18 months before opening...Singapore's T3 has only the structure in place... so it needs definitely more than 18 months...

A look at how the structures look like........(9/10/04):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/ylstan03/Airport/DSCN31631.jpg

huaiwei
October 19th, 2004, 01:16 AM
Wah so long......:eek: Must praise you for your tremendous effort then.....:yes::D

I wonder if there will be a book solely on T3 next time once T3 opens??
I wont be surprised man. :D

And thanks for the appreciation...hahaha. It certainly needs alot of arm power to keep going with the scanning!

babystan03
October 19th, 2004, 09:20 AM
I wont be surprised man. :D

And thanks for the appreciation...hahaha. It certainly needs alot of arm power to keep going with the scanning!

Arm power?? How come?? The book very heavy mair??

ignoramus
October 19th, 2004, 05:41 PM
19 October 2004


Singapore Changi Airport Terminal 3

Construction
© Ignoramus
http://img93.exs.cx/img93/3728/DSC02467.jpg
http://img84.exs.cx/img84/6856/DSC02519.jpg

babystan03
October 19th, 2004, 05:44 PM
^
Hmm...was the picture taken during evening time?? taken at T2??

ignoramus
October 19th, 2004, 06:17 PM
New photos have been added since you last posted.

^
Hmm...was the picture taken during evening time?? taken at T2??

The first one was taken at around 3.30pm. The last one at around 6.30pm. Yes at T2.

babystan03
October 20th, 2004, 02:53 PM
New photos have been added since you last posted.

The first one was taken at around 3.30pm. The last one at around 6.30pm. Yes at T2.

http://img93.exs.cx/img93/3728/DSC02467.jpg
How come the 3.30pm feels a bit dark?? Cloudy weather??

ignoramus
October 20th, 2004, 03:26 PM
Yes it was very cloudy but I guess perhaps part of the reason was also because I don't know how to take photos properly...sometimes when I zoom in too much everything gets darker...

babystan03
October 20th, 2004, 03:29 PM
Yes it was very cloudy but I guess perhaps part of the reason was also because I don't know how to take photos properly...sometimes when I zoom in too much everything gets darker...

Hmm I thought zooming only cause blurness sometimes........nvm....that means you must "practise" more......:lol: :jk:

redstone
October 20th, 2004, 04:50 PM
Looks like a huge exhibition hall! :lol:

babystan03
October 20th, 2004, 04:52 PM
Looks like a huge exhibition hall! :lol:

Then this must be a mega exhibition hall at 430,000 sq m :eek::lol:

huaiwei
October 21st, 2004, 07:15 PM
I posted this somewhere before? The rail station...

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3136/2829114.jpg

babystan03
October 22nd, 2004, 01:44 AM
I posted this somewhere before? The rail station...


In the Singapore MRT/LRT thread ??

huaiwei
October 23rd, 2004, 07:18 PM
Cant remember......all I can remember was a discussion about that picture before I even posted it here? ;)