..........post news and developments about the security and crime control before and during the fifa world cup!

World Cup Security Is A Priority - South African Minister
The South African government has once again reiterated its commitment to ensuring the safety of visitors and football fans during the 2010 FIFA World Cup.
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Related LinksMinister of Transport Sibusiso Ndebele told the gathering of the 2010 National Communication Partnership Conference in Johannesburg yesterday that government would pull out all the stops to uphold South Africa’s event security reputation during the 30-day tournament.

“The safety of our people and our visitors is non-negotiable," he affirmed.

"For the past five years the issue of security was perhaps the most consistently voiced issue by the international community. While some of it could be attributed to a fear of the unknown, such concerns must be attended to.”

Ndebele said in a statement carried by Bua News that South African law enforcement agencies were improving on their capacity to secure major international events.

“Our law enforcement agencies have proven their might to create secure environments during the Confederations Cup and past major events hosted by our country," he added.

"They will continue to improve on their capacity to deal with incidents of crime and will be ready to neutralise any potential threat.”

National police spokesperson, Senior Superintendent Vish Naidoo, echoed the Minister’s sentiments saying South Africa's event security record speaks for itself, adding, "People have come here in the past for events and I can assure you that the World Cup in 2010 will be secure.We have our systems in place and we take the safety of our visitors and locals very seriously.”

Minister Ndebele said the World Cup would provide various opportunities, one of which will be to forge national cohesion.

“The World Cup presents us with the single most unique opportunity to unite our people. The event also provides us with a chance perhaps better than most, to kick-start our way out of the current economic recession," he stated.

“The World Cup offers an opportunity for the igniting of passion and national pride amongst South Africans. It calls for the unity of our people regardless of colour or creed because indeed working together we can do more.

from goal.com

Hooligans will hear, but not see matches

August 22 2009 at 07:15PM



Two police cells capable of holding eight soccer hooligans each have been built at the Green Point 2010 World Cup Stadium as part of the tough security measures being put in place to curb bad behaviour during matches.

Hooliganism at soccer stadiums will not be tolerated and those who misbehave will be locked up, warned the SA Football Association WP president Vernon Seymour.

"It sends out a clear message that when you set foot in this stadium you must behave yourself," Seymour told the Weekend Argus.

He was referring to the incident last week when Kaizer Chiefs fans went on the rampage at Newlands Stadium in a soccer game against home team Ajax.
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Chaos erupted during the MTN8 semi-final. Chiefs have been slapped with a R500 000 fine. An amount of R350 000 has to be paid immediately and R150 000 has been suspended.

About 500 seats were damaged on the grandstand and unruly fans also threw bottles and vuvuzelas on to the field.

One of the city's 2010 directors, Dave Hugo, said the two holding cells could contain about eight people each. "They will hold culprits temporarily until they are taken to a police station."

Deputy Police Commissioner Andre Pruis has indicated that as part of security measures all host cities would have a dedicated police station with separate holding cells, a courtroom for speedy judgments and a Home Affairs office for possible speedy deportations.

The Safety at Sports and Recreational Events Bill is also aimed at improving security at stadiums.

Supporters could face a fine or imprisonment if they engage in delinquent and anti-social behaviour inside a stadium venue, or along a route to it - including engaging in racist, vulgar, inflammatory, intimidating, or obscene language or behaviour.

After a meeting with Ajax management yesterday, the CEO of the Premier Soccer League, Kjetil Siem, described the actions of Kaizer Chiefs supporters as "disgraceful" and said he believed the incident would serve as a wake-up call to the possibility of hooliganism during the World Cup.

He said: "With security under the spotlight, the PSL will assist not only Ajax Cape Town, but all our clubs with security planning and deployment around Category A matches. We have already decided to deploy 100 PSL security guards to Cape Town on October 4 when Ajax Cape Town host Kaizer Chiefs in an Absa Premiership clash at Newlands."

He said they would make provision in their budget for further training in security matters in line with World Cup standards, regular workshops on security and a security manual being developed for clubs and the PSL.

Ajax Cape Town said it would look at increasing security and putting a more stringent management plan in place when hosting games at home after Kaizer Chiefs fans went on the rampage.

The WP Rugby Union has also said that the PSL would be denied games if they did not put proper management strategies in place.

WP Rugby spokesman Gavin Lewis said the repairs to Newlands Stadium were completed earlier this week and the stadium was now "100 percent".

On Wednesday night Santos played Bloemfontein Celtic at the stadium.

Lewis said they maintained a "very good" relationship with Cape Town clubs Santos and Ajax. "All the repairs are completed and Wednesday's match went perfectly. We still maintain a good relationship with the clubs and we are ready for three rugby matches today."

Asked whether they were concerned about hosting Chiefs, who attract the biggest crowds with a reputation for unruliness, Lewis said: "Our agreement with clubs and organisations is only that we lease the venue. The management is up to them, subject to a proper management plan. In future we would want to address it for bigger matches".

Ajax spokesman Mark Meyer said they had still not received the bill for damages so he did not know how much they had to pay.

He said the PSL was responsible for last Saturday's management plan and Ajax had been asked by the PSL which security company they used.

They recommended ADT, who worked alongside traffic and police officials as a joint operations team.

Ajax face Chiefs in October, again in the Absa Premiership.

"We will go ahead according to the plan on paper. We have always submitted management plans when security is our responsibility. We have used ADT for the past 10 years and we have faith in their service. Our plan includes how much security and where they will be situated. When there is an incident, however, it is up to the Joint Operation Centre (JOC), police and traffic included, and they make the call on how a situation will be handled," Meyer said.

Meyer said they were confident their management plan was sufficient to deal with huge crowds.

"However, if a man is going to pull a chair from the concrete stand, it's going to take a while to get to him. But we feel our security plan is sufficient with the JOC. We don't condone this kind of behaviour and we will pay what we need to," Meyer said.


This article was originally published on page 5 of Cape Argus on August 22, 2009

Will it make a difference? Nyanga along has like 2,000 murders a year while areas like the CBD, Camps Bay etc. have under 30. Will they release reliable statistics?

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Cape Town's bold new crime plan
By Murray Williams

A Herculean effort was launched on Tuesday to end the reign of crime and violence in greater Cape Town and the Western Cape.

Cape Town has the twin reputation of being one of the most beautiful cities on earth "and one of the
most violent. The crime prevention initiative, launched in Nyanga, was pulled together to end this "cycle of crime and violence", said the leader of the Centre for Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR) Crime Prevention Research Group, Barbara Holtmann.

The plan, based on analysis by the CSIR, was commissioned by the SAPS in the Western Cape and was supported and funded by the SAPS's national office.
'Much has been learned'
The collaborative plan unites the police with all spheres of the government that could play a role -national players like the Department of Justice and the National Prosecuting Authority, most of the
provincial government's departments, and NGOs.

The initiative was started under the watch of the previous ANC-led provincial government and is being rolled out under the DA.

The following areas have been identified as requiring immediate intervention: Cape Town CBD,
Gugulethu, Khayelitsha, Nyanga, Philippi, Mitchells Plain, Elsies River, Kleinvlei, Bishop Lavis, Philippi East, Kraaifontein, Langa, Vredenburg, Bellville, Worcester, Kuils River, Grassy Park, Manenberg, Vredendal, Harare, Lingelethu West, Paarl, Mfuleni and Delft.

The plan will focus on:
Support for pregnant women and girls.
Dealing with substance abuse.
Early childhood development.
Domestic violence.
Community mobilisation.
Victim support and dealing with trauma.
Recreational programmes for children and families.
Feeding and health programmes.
Schooling.
Diversion programmes.
Gun violence prevention and gun reduction.
Child abuse.
Effective law enforcement.
Re-entry (corrections and reintegration).

While each of the crime-ridden areas has its own set of problems, child abuse and neglect, alcohol
abuse (especially among youngsters), illegal liquor outlets, and drugs "especially tik" were identified as common to all.

The proliferation of guns, domestic violence, robbery, burglary, taxi violence, unsafe public transport, unkempt open spaces, unemployment and children in conflict with the law were also cited as problems.

The researchers acknowledged:

"There is frustration from service providers and communities alike; many complain that processes like this one start and then stop before they have achieved anything. It is hoped that this will not be the case with this project.

"Much has been learned, of which perhaps the most poignant and telling message is that when
people dream of a safe place, it is a place where their children play safely, where school is central to the community, where women can walk
at night and where everyone is busy."

Holtmann said the initiative contained 48 objectives that would lead to safer communities.

"We then highlight whose responsibility each task is. It makes it very clear that you can't just pick a couple of priorities, because they are all so inter-related. So you have to work as an entire community, and with the entire government, to make it happen," she said.

She said Cape Town was cursed with an attitude she described as "closer to the mountain", as this
area was seen as better than other places. School children, for example, were sent to schools out their communities because the schools closer to Table Mountain were thought to be better.

"The school is, in fact, isolated from the community and can't play its role in contributing towards community cohesion and stability," she
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^^ I rate that under the DA government, stats will definitely be reliable (especially since they're the ones who found the problem in the first place), but I'm not sure if this plan will work, especially since the article doesn't really discuss it. Most probably in the CBD, but not sure about the Cape Flats. Let's hope for the best!

FIFA president Sepp Blatter moves to calm fears over security arrangements for the 2010 World Cup, insisting it will be a safe and secure tournament for football fans.

“Let’s go there and be in a hospitable country which is saying ‘please come to South Africa and we will receive you well’. This is what you should expect and this is what we expect,” Blatter told a media briefing in Zurich on Monday following the ceremonial start of the FIFA World Cup Trophy Tour.

“Please support us by saying let’s go there and trust the South Africans and South Africa. They are ready to organize the game and your security. But 100 percent security you will never find it anywhere in the world.”

Blatter dealt with questions on security with some irritation in his voice; in the build-up to the 32-team tournament in the Rainbow Nation, the FIFA chief has been forced to provide reassurances on security issues almost every time he speaks to media.

What is certain is there will be high-level security in and around the 10 stadia in nine host cities. The problem lies in ensuring the safety of the 450,000 visitors expected to attend matches. Nearly 50 people are reportedly murdered every day in South Africa, one of the highest murder rates in the world.

But Blatter said the Confederations Cup in June, together with the country’s staging of rugby and cricket World Cups and other international events, proved that South African law enforcement authorities were perfectly capable of managing security at next year’s FIFA showcase.

“There was not one single incident in security [at the Confederations Cup] and still questions are coming ‘what about security’,” said Blatter, adding that the country also welcomes more than 11 million tourists every year.

Asked if South Africa 2010 had been the most difficult tournament to organize, Blatter said FIFA raised the bar with each World Cup and admitted that “maybe” preparations were more difficult than Germany 2006.

“It is easier to organize in South Africa than when we had a combination in 2002 in two different countries [Japan and S. Korea],” he insisted.

“It will be a success because we trust the organizers in South Africa but also our World Cup team led by secretary general Jerome Valcke.”

Its amazing how the media ignore the fact that millions of tourists visit SA, and have been visiting, for years, in total safety.
That we have hosted umpteen big international events with no issues, no incidents.
Everyone has the time of their lives, fabulous events.

Almost everyone that visits waxes lyrical about the beauty, not only the natural beauty, but of the people, and the friendliness and the joy we have here.

But somehow, that simply gets thrown away, and they dredge up stats that were first bandied about in the 90's.
They question has been answered in full, a thousand times - yes, it will be safe.

More importantly, it will be the most fun to be had in the galaxy in the year 2010!

^^ duh cuz its their view of africa ...diggs ....

Western Cape murder rate down 24%, Robberies down 19%



By ANEL LEWIS and CARYN DOLLEY

THERE has been a decline in all violent crime in the Western Cape, with murder dropping by 23.9 percent in the last year.

Most of the murders that were committed were socially-motivated, and usually by acquaintances or relatives of the victims.

According to the national crime statistics for 2008/2009 released yesterday, murders in the province dropped from 2 836 in 2007/2008 to 2 346.

Provincial police commissioner Mzwandile Petros said while the number of killings had decreased, he was still concerned about the murder rate.

"Even though it has gone down, that is still too many people," he said.

Attempted murder ratios per 100 000 of the population dropped by almost 12 percent, while assault with intent to inflict grievous bodily harm came down by 14.8 percent. Robbery with aggravating circumstances declined significantly, falling 19.6 percent.

The annual police report released with the crime statistics said that while the country had not achieved the 7 percent to 10 percent reduction target since 2004/2005, there had been a constant decrease in the rate of murders. The murder rate had dropped nationally by almost 45 percent since 1994.

Published on the web by Cape Times on September 22, 2009.

War Room caused 24% drop in hijacking stats - Petros



By Caryn Dolley

PROVINCIAL Police Commissioner Mzwandile Petros has conceded that police could have done more to prevent business and house robberies - crimes which have drastically increased.

He now plans to use the same tactics which have brought down violent crimes in the province, such as hijackings, to tackle the problem.

Provincial crime statistics released yesterday show reported robberies at business premises increased by 423 in a year. From April 2007 to March last year, 635 business premises were robbed, while 1 058 were robbed between last April and March this year. Robberies at homes increased from 796 between 2007 and 2008 to 974 between April 2008 and March.

"(Generally) the statistics show a work in progress. We could've done better in terms of house break-ins and property crimes," Petros said.

He said drug and alcohol use often played a role in robberies, and police were clamping down on shebeens and drug dealers.

Petros said the War Room, established last year in May to centralise police operations and address hijackings, was being expanded.

"We're opening a fully-fledged War Room, the Command Centre, which will have an operational room to link the police stations and state-of-the-art monitoring mechanisms. We'll start moving (our focus) over to business robberies," Petros said.

Petros said the War Room had proved successful as carjackings had decreased from 923 between 2007 and last year, to 698 in the year ending in March.

City mayoral member for safety and security JP Smith, said residential and business robberies had increased due to a "crime shift". "Because police made it difficult for criminals to commit other crimes, like smash-and-grabs, the criminals have changed their so-called career paths," he said.

Smith said it seemed because homes had better security systems, robbers were targeting them when residents were in. "In this way, they can get the owner to open the safe..."

Community Safety MEC Lennit Max said the increase in robberies at homes and businesses was "alarming". The increase in some crimes was "utterly unacceptable" and he would ensure Petros addressed "areas of concern efficiently and effectively".

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Published on the web by Cape Times on September 22, 2009.

Life for killing lesbian activist(NATIONAL SOCCER TEAM CAPTAIN.)

2009-09-23 08:38




Johannesburg - A man was sentenced to life imprisonment on Tuesday for the murder of lesbian footballer Eudy Simelane, who was gang-raped and robbed in an attack last year.

The Delmas Magistrate's Court sentenced Themba Mvubu to life for the 31-year-old's murder, 20 years for being an accomplice to rape and 15 years for robbery, said Phumi Mtetwa of the Equality Project.

Two other men were acquitted of the attack on the well-known lesbian activist and former national women's football team player, whose body was found in an open field in KwaThema township last April.

Mvubu's conviction follows a 32-year sentence handed down in February to a fourth accused who pled guilty to murder, robbery and being an accomplice to rape but later retracted statements implicating the other three.

'Corrective rape'

Simelane's sexuality was ruled out in the first sentencing as a motive in her killing but activists have linked the case to "corrective rape" in which lesbians are targets of sexual violence.

The judge in the second trial on Tuesday had noted that the accused had told co-attacker Mpithi to "do something" as Simelane knew him, Mtetwa said.

"We can only make an inference that part of the knowledge of who she was had to do with her sexual and gender identity," she said.

Emily Craven of the Joint Working Group activist network said a guilty verdict had been hoped for against all three accused but that there was relief that the case was over.

"We are just very happy that it's over. It gives a chance for Eudy's family to find some peace and move on with their life," said.

Hate crimes

"At the end of the day, it's probably to my mind the first case followed by the hate crimes campaign in South Africa that's actually come to a conclusion. We can learn from this case."

In March, a new study by anti-poverty group Action Aid warned that South African lesbians were suffering rapes by men trying to "cure" their homosexuality.

South Africa is one of the world's most violent societies with fresh crime statistics released on Tuesday showing a rise of sexual offences by 10.4% with 27 750 rapes committed in six months.



- SAPA
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This is what is really going on in this country from time to time. In the context of say Europe this case would be beyond sensational but down here just another stat with attached spin. This person was a national sporting leader, as captain of the team.
This is appalling but reality here in RSA in late 2009, less than 1 year before hosting a world event where i assume all genders will want to attend.

we all hope for the best security during the world cup and beyond that .......a man in florida murdered his wife and 5 lil kids ranging from ages 9 yrs old to 11 months....this sort of crime happens all the time....but thats life..so im sure the world cup will be fine...dont try to scare people with isolated crimes...cuz i can point out crimes that happen here in the states all the time.

Just read the crime stats report.

Western Cape, while still struggling with high crime rates, in many categories of crimes, has seen the largest reduction for most crimes, and in a few cases, the only province to meet and exceed the 7-10% reduction target.

If they keep up the good work, we could perhaps in 5-10 years see real change.

It remains scary and unfortunate how concentrated crime levels are in the WC. Three of four townships account for a significant amount of crime in the province and in some cases, its as high as 80-90% of all crime in the metro region of Cape Town!!

The correlation between high crime levels and poverty/socio-economic levels is shockingly high.

Murder rates in the WC are down 24%, which puts the rate below EC and KZN but still waaaay too high.

Yes, and if you go through individual police area crime reports, you will see that the stats for murder are even more unbalanced.

Outside of the townships and surrounds, murder is rare indeed - contrary to media hype which has people believing they are lucky not to get shot on landing at CTIA.

This explains why we have more tourists than australia, safely, and why tourism is still booming in SA despite the downturn.

It also proves that people like that twat who went to Canada are talking utter tosh, playing on peoples fears to further their own agenda, and damaging the countries reputation in the process.

In short, if someone who lives in Gugs is telling you about the crime in their area, listen and sympathise - and lets get more police and law in those areas.

But if you hear someone living in Camps Bay telling you they fear for their lives and are thinking of emigrating, give them a klap to help them on their way...

This explains why we have more tourists than australia, safely, and why tourism is still booming in SA despite the downturn.

It also proves that people like that twat who went to Canada are talking utter tosh, playing on peoples fears to further their own agenda, and damaging the countries reputation in the process.

In short, if someone who lives in Gugs is telling you about the crime in their area, listen and sympathise - and lets get more police and law in those areas.

But if you hear someone living in Camps Bay telling you they fear for their lives and are thinking of emigrating, give them a klap to help them on their way...

^^^^
I like the cut of your jib Digger :lol:

FIFA to meet on Robben Island
2009-09-30 09:17Email | Print



Rio de Janeiro - FIFA's executive committee will hold its next meeting on South Africa's once infamous Robben Island in Dec. 3, the governing body's president Sepp Blatter said on Tuesday. "Holding it on Robben Island is a historic matter," Blatter told a news conference after Tuesday's executive committee meeting in Rio de Janeiro.

Robben Island is where former president Nelson Mandela was held for 18 of the 27 years he was imprisoned by the apartheid regime that ruled a racially segregated South Africa. He was released in 1990 and was president from 1994 to 1999.

Among the issues to be decided at that meeting on the eve of the World Cup draw in Cape Town, will be the seeding for the 2010 finals, FIFA secretary general Jerome Valcke said.

The meeting in Rio was FIFA's first ever in Brazil, who will host the World Cup for the second time in 2014, and first in South America since Buenos Aires in 2001.

"It was time we returned to South America," Blatter added after saying it was only the committee's third meeting on the continent since the 1978 World Cup in Argentina.

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SAFE AS HOUSES OUT THERE.

^^ what does that article have to do with crime and security ?

He's a strange one.

Let's leave it at that :nuts:

^^ what does that article have to do with crime and security ?

as i said, in the title.

as i said, in the title.

If you're scared of the Cape Town CBD & Waterfront, you should be scared of any European or American city. Nobody got your title, because it's invalid, makes no sense and holds no water in reality. You clearly have never heard of the Cape Town Partnership.

^^

i make no assertions about Cape Town, i just find the location odd, in that there is a huge convention centre right there in Ct. So it struck me as being a strategy to be as private as possible when many people are perhaps displeased with the huge cash splurged on the stadia, which could have created a demo say on the mainland.

PD.

Cmon man, dont be such a TOOL!

The small article explains clearly the historic reasons for the location of the meeting. It makes perfect sense.

A demo? Cmon, dont be ridiculous - if people want to demonstrate, they can do it at any of the stadium sites or other WC2010 related sites, and have been able to for 2 years or so.

Or they can do it at the ferry terminal to Robben Island...whatever, just pull your head in and stop making ridiculous comments...

^^

na , i would rather stick with my view of Mr Blatter and his honchos.

all the construction workforce are laid off now and standing around looking for a reason for having to live on pap and cant afford WC tickets.

I guess your right , ticket office at robbin island ferry will be a busy joint.

Anywayz their supposed to be making history themselves not jumping off Mandelas back?

It's "Robben" Island, as in "Seal" in Dutch... not some Welsh girl name. :lol:

Do you really think it's their intention to ride off Mandela's back, or to have the gathering in a world recognised, iconic location.

You are being a little ridiculously cynical and a pain in places where the sun don't shine right now. We're all positive about 2010, stop being a spanner. The government has already announced initiatives to find 2010-construction employees alternative work in the Public Works Expansion program post 2010.

Lmao, he PM'd me telling me I must make constructive comments xD

The irony!

Ignore lists are awesome.

Lmao, he PM'd me telling me I must make constructive comments xD

The irony!

Ignore lists are awesome.

It is such a lost cause taking a normal stance with him.

Like talking to a brick wall :)

back to the topic b4 this sensitive burning wacko interupted with some bullshyt post

German police helping South Africans for World Cup
9 hours, 41 minutes ago

Buzz up! 0 PrintFRANKFURT (AP)—German police are advising their South African colleagues ahead of next year’s World Cup.

A delegation of top-ranking South African police officials is visiting the German state of North Rhine-Westphalia, which has the most experienced officers trained in crowd control.

The state is home to Bundesliga clubs Schalke and Borussia Dortmund, which draw huge groups of sometimes unruly fans.

The local police said Thursday in a statement that the South Africans will learn about the security measures used for the 2006 World Cup in Germany, and the delegation will also attend some Bundesliga games to observe police at work and fan behavior.

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ok, so lansdowne road has been the subject of protests for the last month in CAPE TOWN.

Front page your paper.

Hence FIFA, elected to run away to a Island.

:banana:

^^ F*ck... your geography sucks! The ICC Durban cannot hold a conference, because there's a protest in KwaMashu. Dude... get a life, a clue, a positive attitude and a map. Your behavior is an embarrassment to local SA Forumers. If you do not adjust your idiocy, I will make it a personal agenda to get you banned. I have a high tolerance for people, their opinions and different angles on a subjects... but zero tolerance for unadulterated shit stirring, thread derailment and ignorance. First warning... I've seen previous issues with you regarding other forumers. Take heed, the ice is melting rapidly beneath your skates!

Thanks

As I said since the first post of Project Director, the best is not read what he posts, for this guy lives depressed and never makes any sense. So just ignore what he posts and sooner or later he'll move on to another place, to try make other people depressed. And if he is really a project director I really can't see him motivating his team, and projects in his sleaves must only be the ones that don't to make South Africa progress.

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ok, so lansdowne road has been the subject of protests for the last month in CAPE TOWN.

Front page your paper.

Hence FIFA, elected to run away to a Island.

:banana:

yes because the landsdowne road protest has what to do with fifa? and will embarrese them how? I mean if you want to mention a protest that could effect them find something with in the cbd at least.

Landsdowne Road is pivotal to the survival of earth, didn't you know :lol:

Run FIFA, run! Why stop at Robben Island?

In the words of the wise Dory - just keep swimming, swimming, swimming.

^^ F*ck... your geography sucks! The ICC Durban cannot hold a conference, because there's a protest in KwaMashu. Dude... get a life, a clue, a positive attitude and a map. Your behavior is an embarrassment to local SA Forumers. If you do not adjust your idiocy, I will make it a personal agenda to get you banned. I have a high tolerance for people, their opinions and different angles on a subjects... but zero tolerance for unadulterated shit stirring, thread derailment and ignorance. First warning... I've seen previous issues with you regarding other forumers. Take heed, the ice is melting rapidly beneath your skates!

Thanks

please refer to my well placed reference to the South African "mainland", not your town or durban on this issue, subsequently the apparent self annointed cape town protectorate took a position that was confirmed, a bit like my first post pointing out the ability of PRDW.

MATE, where i stand its 50 mill sheet metal.:banana:

LANSDOWNE ROAD, see below, get a map update, khyalitshas in C-T LAST TIME i visited. FACT.


City clamps down on trouble in Lansdowne Road
2 October 2009, 17:55
By Natasha Prince
Staff Reporter

A Satellite police caravan, 24-hour visible patrols, armoured police vehicles and CCTV surveillance cameras are among the tools authorities aim to use to protect Khayelitsha's Lansdowne Road and its motorists from vandals.

On Thursday city workers bolted to the ground the three shipping containers that were used as barricades to stop traffic flow in Lansdowne Road in Khayelitsha's BT Section, in Site C.

Residents watched fascinated as huge machines moved in to lift, turn and bolt down the containers which had obstructed traffic on the road for several weeks. Residents of BT Section had moved the containers, burnt tyres and strewn rubbish across the road during violent service delivery protests.

In August, an off-duty Stellenbosch policeman was attacked and beaten unconscious after he drew his service pistol when he was confronted by protesting residents there.

Seven people were arrested for public violence, and two charged with the assault on the police officer.

The road has been shut for at least three weeks. Vehicles have avoided the section of Lansdowne Road between the Nolungile train station footbridge and Capital Drive, which has been closed to traffic.

On Wednesday, municipal workers embarked on a major clean-up of the road.

There was a tense stand-off between police and a group of residents who had gathered earlier that day. The crowd dispersed after police agreed to release two of their members who had been arrested for inciting violence earlier that morning.

No violent outbreaks were reported on Wednesday night, and last night the area was quiet. But authorities are on high alert, with a heavy police presence expected in the area over the next few days.

On Thursday Kennith Patrick, executive support officer to mayoral committee member JP Smith, said that a mobile caravan would be set up, and that visible patrols would monitor the affected road during the day, while an armoured vehicle would be used to keep check at night.

Patrick said the clean-up effort and police presence had been well received so far.

"We've had no major incidents and everything's going well. We will continue to increase the visible patrols and to saturate the area with enforcement agents," he said.


This article was originally published on page 4 of The Cape Argus on October 02, 2009

In my book cape town needs to get up to speed with the issues it has with crime management , its lagging behind national aims, wake up mountain goat land.:banana:

[QUOTE=Project Director;44025946]please refer to my well placed reference to the South African "mainland", not your town or durban on this issue, subsequently the apparent self annointed cape town protectorate took a position that was confirmed, a bit like my first post pointing out the ability of PRDW.

MATE, where i stand its 50 mill sheet metal.:banana:

LANSDOWNE ROAD, see below, get a map update, khyalitshas in C-T LAST TIME i visited. FACT.
/QUOTE]

I think that you completely miss understood annman he was in fact comparing your use of the landsowne road protests as a reason for fifa not been at the cticc to icc durban not holding a confrence because there was a protest in KwaMashu. Also in the context of your post the mainland was clearly refering to the mainland around ct firstly, and possibly the rest of south africa in a supporting manner. Finally do you know what a protectorate is? you have a clause that reads, " following that the clearly visable self crowned militarly and diplomatically obliged protector of the independant state of cape town to up an argument or location that was determined to be correct." I sorry but that makes no sense and if we read the the main clause removing the other clauses it reads, "Please refer to my well placed reference to the South African "mainland" subsequently the apparent self annointed cape town protectorate took a position that was confirmed."

Im not normally someone that cares for grammer or spelling ect. as long as the message is conveyed i don't care but stringing together meaningless words does not an argument make.

[QUOTE=Project Director;44025946]please refer to my well placed reference to the South African "mainland", not your town or durban on this issue, subsequently the apparent self annointed cape town protectorate took a position that was confirmed, a bit like my first post pointing out the ability of PRDW.

MATE, where i stand its 50 mill sheet metal.:banana:

LANSDOWNE ROAD, see below, get a map update, khyalitshas in C-T LAST TIME i visited. FACT.
/QUOTE]

I think that you completely miss understood annman he was in fact comparing your use of the landsowne road protests as a reason for fifa not been at the cticc to icc durban not holding a confrence because there was a protest in KwaMashu. Also in the context of your post the mainland was clearly refering to the mainland around ct firstly, and possibly the rest of south africa in a supporting manner. Finally do you know what a protectorate is? you have a clause that reads, " following that the clearly visable self crowned militarly and diplomatically obliged protector of the independant state of cape town to up an argument or location that was determined to be correct." I sorry but that makes no sense and if we read the the main clause removing the other clauses it reads, "Please refer to my well placed reference to the South African "mainland" subsequently the apparent self annointed cape town protectorate took a position that was confirmed."

Im not normally someone that cares for grammer or spelling ect. as long as the message is conveyed i don't care but stringing together meaningless words does not an argument make.

OK, so the forum has character, wow, hidden agendas sad to know they existed.

Just because FIFA are holding a soccer tournament here as did the IPL hold their tournament in RSA does not give them the right to posture around the issues, i am of the opinion that these slippery characters are hiding away on the island so as to turn a nose up to the people of south africa with a spin of the island is historic. I can only imagine the soundings back in uber alus land like well i`m only coming for a AGM if its beyond safe, hence lets hide away on a island, oh, says SEPP to the honchos, theyve got one off cape town with a hall, lets go there, non off durban non off PE non off JHB. ok theres a island at the valley of the waves at sun city but it hasnt got a dance floor.

anyway hows safety up on the mountain these days

PD stfu ......u got issues ....

Mike's been notified. This is enough... and PM'ing nonsense is completely unacceptable and violating my right to not be harassed. If one cannot send messages in open forum, obvious they are not messages to be sent at all.

Just because one is anonymous online does not mean you should act otherwise, than if you were in a room of people having a discussion where they could see your face and know your name.

And one may not be as anonymous as one thinks anyway :P

And one may not be as anonymous as one thinks anyway :P

Well, I'm not and I don't care... I do not treat people with disrespect and I do not say things on SSC that I would not say if I was sitting across from you having a beer. The point of SSC is not to talk smack and piss people off, it's to share a passion for development.

I have just had enough of people that do not treat our great contributors with respect. There are key people here, that even though you disagree, deserve respect and kindness for their amazing contributions, knowledge and passion they have for that which epitomizes them:

Like Mo, he may sometimes be little snide and overtly passionate, but that guy has got a knowledge, insight and a deep-love for CT developments that is irreplaceable. Like Inertia, may disagree with him at times, but his love for Sandton, his amazing contributions to transit developments in Jozi is amazing. Like Leftfoot and Durby for their love of KSIA, Umhlanga and Durbs, their amazing pics and great insight. Like Waltjie, a bit of a loose cannon, but damn, that guy loves the skies, has some passionate insights and he deserves respect for it. Juzzy, Cigar... seems they know things before the airlines themselves do. Pule, he could organise Jo'burg to have a meet in CT with his clout and persistence. Tadpolefarm... he could get pics of stadia from the Moon! Lydon, slutty-lovable, always lightening the mood and keeping us constantly updated on the northern suburbs... there are so many, I cannot mention all!

It's not fair for someone to come in, and their only obvious passion is to upset, disrespect and talk smack to people that really have a love for architecture, developments, their city and the betterment of SA.

My patience is done! :)

To my horror i see Cape Town has its own lesbian killing problem as i posted on the JHB one here i thought we should get it out there that its geographically a issue.

Todays Argus.

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By Jade Witten
Court Reporter

One of the nine men accused of murdering Zoliswa Nkonyana because she was a lesbian has denied the contents of a confession he made to police, saying he was forced to lie under oath.

Sicelo Mase, 20, on Wednesday told the Khayelitsha Magistrate's Court that his father Gordon and investigating officer Sergeant Melvyn Geldenhuys had promised him that if he confessed, he would be indemnified from prosecution.

But when Geldenhuys testified, he denied promising Mase that if he confessed to the crime, he would be released on a warning, on bail or could turn state witness.

Mase claimed his father and Geldenhuys had discussed how to proceed with the case, and later told him what he should do and say when he was taken to Mitchells Plain Magistrate's Court.

Mase's father, who is now dead, was present while the confession was made on February 21, 2006, as his son was then a minor.

Prosecutor Alfred Isaacs also questioned retired magistrate Hendrik Swart, who was the chief magistrate at Mitchells Plain Magistrate's Court at the time the confession was made.

Swart said he had recorded what the interpreter, Ruth Maneli, had relayed to him.

Maneli testified that she had accurately translated what Mase told her.

She added that his father had intervened at certain stages of the confession, but said there was no indication the son was being forced or intimidated.

Swart told the court that he had asked Mase whether he had been intimidated, promised any rewards, influenced or encouraged prior to making the confession. Mase said "no".

The statement has not yet been revealed, as a trial-within-a-trial is being held to establish whether the documents should form part of the evidence.

The nine accused, who have all pleaded not guilty, face a murder charge and two charges of attempted murder for allegedly also attacking Nkonyana's friends, Phindiswa Magxala and Zolani Pato, on February 4, 2006.

All the men, except for Luyanda Londzi, 20, who is out on bail of R1 000, are in custody.

Mase forfeited his bail when he failed to appear in court on August 27.

The other accused are Mbulelo Damba, 20, Mfundo Kulani, 18, Themba Dlephu, 20, Zolile Kobese, 20, Anele Gwele, 23, Sabelo Yekiso, 20, and Lubabalo Ntlabathi, 21.

The case continues on Wednesday.


This article was originally published on page 9 of The Cape Argus on October 01, 2009

http://www.capeargus.co.za/?fSectionId=3571&fArticleId=vn20091001124632748C714773

Its great to see that the authorities are acting on this BEFORE THE WC 2010 SHOW PIECE but it seems as if its taking a while to get it to court, are the courts full in cape town, i hope not.

PD.

^^ What is your agenda? We can all dig up horror stories from every city worldwide, and in SA. If I were to go to The Star. Pretoria News or Mercury on any given day, I could dig up murders, hijackings, hate crimes and armed robberies in each edition. People look to SSC from overseas for reliable and realistic facts on all cities in SA. You, as an ambassador to SA, as you are by default by being a member of SSC, is disgraceful. You have become a distasteful, begrudging and despicable piece of our forum that I'm saddened to say I am a member of. If I were a foreigner, seeing the tripe that comes of the hands of those from our own country, would serious discourage me from setting foot near on in our beautiful nation. Shame on you.

PS. You do not need to sign every post with "PD", that's what you avatar is there for... you're not writing corporate correspondence, or submission to provincial government or any formal brief of any kind. Actually... that are your qualifications, Mr. Project Director?

Don't forget Die Son! You can find anything in Die Son :D

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