Hello everyone I've just recently signed up to be a member here however I've been visting these forums for a number of years now... I just havn't said anything but thought it was about time I got invovled some more!

I noticed we don't have a discussion thread for the new Fiona Stanley Hospital so hope you don't mind me creating this one to discuss a invite I have for you all.

If your keen on attending please do!


INVITATION FROM BROOKFIELD MULTIPLEX
Fiona Stanley Hospital workshops

The development of the new Fiona Stanley Hospital at Murdoch is well progressed after more than two years of planning and design work. Clinicians and other staff, as well as a wide range of external stakeholders, have provided an invaluable contribution to the design during this period.

Now, as we prepare to move into these final stages of design, the managing contractor, Brookfield Multiplex, would like to invite all staff to attend a workshop to view the latest designs for the hospital – and assist in the development of key areas still to be finalised.

Two workshops will be held:

Date: Monday 21 September 2009
Time: 5.30pm for 5.45pm start, concluding at 9.00pm

Date: Tuesday 22 September
Time: 8.30am for 8.45am start, concluding at 12.00noon

The workshops will be held at:

The Hyatt Regency
99 Adelaide Terrace, Perth

Each session will include a presentation on the current design of the hospital, followed by a break-out session where you will have a chance to participate in a discussion on one of the following topics:

Interior design
Travel and transport – including access, end-of-trip facilities and public transport
Wayfinding – how people orient themselves around the hospital
Front entry, lobby and internal public spaces
Retail services, including food services
Clean utility room, including fit-out and storage spaces
Light refreshments will be served at the morning session, with a light meal provided at the evening session.

How To Register

Register your attendance before Friday 4 September to Nicola Howarth by email to nicolah@millswilson.com.au or phone 1800 4659 475.

The following information must be provided when registering your attendance:

your name, contact phone number and email address;
the date of the workshop you will be attending (21 or 22 September); and
the topic of the workshop breakout topic you would like to discuss, or whether you will be attending the presentation only.
For more information call 1800 659 475 or email fsh@health.wa.gov.au.


Enjoy and see ya round!!

Fiona Stanley hospital is a big project. so do anyone have some pic or comment?

I live close to Murdoch, I can see the cranes from my street :)

umm... i am lost, how has this thread been here for almost 9 months, and yet i have never seen it before, and no one else has posted in it until today?

I hadn't seen it before either. So I'll put the link I posted in another thread about a week ago that I hadn't seen before either. It has a camera on the site linked to the webpage.

http://www.fionastanley.health.wa.gov.au/about/index.cfm

I've never seen this post/thread by WaynO either ...weird? hope you didn't feel ignored WaynO !

It could have been put up just before someone did a photo update across the various sites and it dropped off the radar. That and hospitals aren't that exciting for us.

Missed the workshops then I take it :)

http://www.fionastanley.health.wa.gov.au

Construction of Fiona Stanley Hospital is underway with the first concrete poured for the main hospital building in December 2009.

The hospital has a project budget of $1.76 billion and includes 643 beds. In addition, the Australian Government has provided $255.7 million in funding for a 140-bed State rehabilitation service.

When it opens in 2014, the hospital will be the major tertiary health facility in the south metropolitan area, offering services to communities in Perth's southern suburbs and across the State.

Fiona Stanley Hospital will be supported by a network of general hospitals across the south to deliver care closer to home.

Design and Planning

FSH: A World Class Facility (PDF) (http://www.fionastanley.health.wa.gov.au/docs/facts/FSH_Facility.pdf)
Technology at FSH (PDF) (http://www.fionastanley.health.wa.gov.au/docs/facts/FSH_ICT.pdf)
Access at FSH (PDF) (http://www.fionastanley.health.wa.gov.au/docs/facts/FSH_access.pdf)
FSH Sustainable Building Design (PDF) (http://www.fionastanley.health.wa.gov.au/docs/facts/FSH_sustainable_building_design.pdf)
FSH Landscape (PDF) (http://www.fionastanley.health.wa.gov.au/docs/facts/FSH_landscaping.pdf)
FSH Site Location (PDF) (http://www.fionastanley.health.wa.gov.au/docs/facts/FSH_site.pdf)
Murdoch Activity Centre Structure Plan (PDF) (http://www.dpi.wa.gov.au/mediafiles/planning_murdoch_structureplan.pdf)
FSH Education, Health and Research Precinct (PDF) (http://www.fionastanley.health.wa.gov.au/docs/facts/FSH_education_research_health_precinct.pdf)
FSH Public Transport (PDF) (http://www.fionastanley.health.wa.gov.au/docs/facts/FSH_public_transport.pdf)
FSH On-Site Environmental Management (PDF) (http://www.fionastanley.health.wa.gov.au/docs/facts/FSH_environment_on-site.pdf)
FSH Off-Site Environmental Management (PDF) (http://www.fionastanley.health.wa.gov.au/docs/facts/FSH_environment_off-site.pdf)

Services

Health Reform and the FSH (PDF) (http://www.fionastanley.health.wa.gov.au/docs/facts/Fit_in_Health_System.pdf)
Working at FSH (PDF) (http://www.fionastanley.health.wa.gov.au/docs/facts/Working_at_FSH.pdf)
FSH Cancer Services (PDF) (http://www.fionastanley.health.wa.gov.au/docs/facts/FSH_cancer_centre.pdf)
FSH Trauma Services (PDF) (http://www.fionastanley.health.wa.gov.au/docs/facts/Trauma.pdf)
Services at FSH (PDF) (http://www.fionastanley.health.wa.gov.au/docs/facts/Services.pdf)
FSH State Burns Unit (PDF) (http://www.fionastanley.health.wa.gov.au/docs/facts/FSH_burns.pdf)
FSH State Rehab Service (PDF) (http://www.fionastanley.health.wa.gov.au/docs/facts/State_Rehab_Centre.pdf)

Artist Impressions

FSH Official Site:

Exterior Fascade
http://www.fionastanley.health.wa.gov.au/images/FSH_exterior4_lg.jpg

Courtyard
http://www.fionastanley.health.wa.gov.au/images/FSH_exterior5_lg.jpg

Entry Plaza
http://www.fionastanley.health.wa.gov.au/images/FSH_exterior6_lg.jpg

External View
http://www.fionastanley.health.wa.gov.au/images/FSH_exterior3_lg.jpg
http://www.fionastanley.health.wa.gov.au/images/FSH_exterior2_lg.jpg

Interior View
http://www.fionastanley.health.wa.gov.au/images/FSH_interior_lg.jpg

Aerial Views

From Official Site:

April 2009
http://www.fionastanley.health.wa.gov.au/images/aerial_view_site.jpg
http://www.fionastanley.health.wa.gov.au/images/aerial_view_site_overview.jpg

December 2009
http://www.fionastanley.health.wa.gov.au/images/aerial_view_construction.jpg

Construction

Official Site, Site Cam Updated Every 15 Minutes (I think these photos update automatically) (http://www.fionastanley.health.wa.gov.au/about/index.cfm):
http://webcamftp.aconex.com/sitecams/fiona_stanley1.jpg
http://webcamftp.aconex.com/sitecams/fiona_stanley2.jpg

Wikipedia:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Fiona_stanley_hospital_gnangarra.JPG/1024px-Fiona_stanley_hospital_gnangarra.JPG (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c2/Fiona_stanley_hospital_gnangarra.JPG)

SCC (docker):

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs073.snc3/14119_110370769001599_100000860305689_67182_4469241_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs073.snc3/14119_110374892334520_100000860305689_67238_1259960_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs053.snc3/14119_110375452334464_100000860305689_67243_5167123_n.jpg
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8255/fionay.jpg

SSC (vic-k):
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/2904/dscf4149m.jpg
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/2599/dscf4150.jpg

these are sexy :) the river expanses and its nice and green

the cranes are really unexpected going along leach hwy/south st or the freeway when suddenly 4 big cranes are sticking out!

http://www.fionastanley.health.wa.gov.au/images/aerial_view_site.jpg
http://www.fionastanley.health.wa.gov.au/images/aerial_view_site_overview.jpg

so I've just woken this thread up. Coming up....

so I've just woken this thread up. Coming up....

I'm gonna try to get some more/updated photos it later today. I feel like a bit of a drive.

I went past on Thursday, a little bit different to when I last went past
The cores are the only tall thing there..apart from the cranes, still lots of ground work.

Great thread, I will enjoy watching the progress

I can not help but not be excited about this. They showed it on TV tonight, massive project, 'fancy' interiors etc but at the end of the day it's a destination you'd least want to go to.

also noticed they are calling it a $2.0 billion dollar 783 bed hospital (including 140 rehab beds) ... instead of talking about $1.76 billlion + separate $255 million for rehab centre ...

getting that "2" in front makes it sound like a more impressive expenditure...

Will Shenton Park rehab be closed when this becomes operational?

also noticed they are calling it a $2.0 billion dollar 783 bed hospital (including 140 rehab beds) ... instead of talking about $1.76 billlion + separate $255 million for rehab centre ...

getting that "2" in front makes it sound like a more impressive expenditure...

I guess 2 billion is a good amount to be spent on hospitals in the eyes of Perthies.... but woe betide the person who mentions the word billion when talking about a stadium / public transport / urban regeneration!

Wow, that site is ultra-epic.

Good we r getting new hospitals...

I wants a new stadium too xD.
Haha. Dam AFL prob effed up WC bid, therefore effings up Perth's Chances of getting the ultimate stadium...

Just to make it interesting, this is the centrepiece of a TOD that features a dedicated busway and a new freeway onramp.

Didnt realise how big this site was. Doesnt look that big from South St

I really hope they have up-to-date communication systems for the staff and some half-decent lifts ;) would cut half the time out of my day if I were to work there

Should we retitle this thread as a general Health Infrastructure thread - use it to talk about QE2 development , whatever happens on Joondalup campus, Midland campus ...and the future of the PMH , KEMH , RPH sites ? ...

I think that is a good idea..

I really hope they have up-to-date communication systems for the staff and some half-decent lifts ;) would cut half the time out of my day if I were to work there

Fuck, I hope so. The ones at RPH are complete shite.

Last time I was at RPH the directions/signage didnt even correspond to the correct levels..

Link to Expression of Interest documents for the new carpark at QE2 Medical Centre... Has some nice diagrams of where everything is planned to go... they hope to start the carpark in Early 2011 ...

I like the fact that H block (all the plant stuff /cooling towers/decommissioned incinerator) is getting moved down the back of site (off Winthrop Avenue) as it's ugly.... also like the fact that G block will be less visible ...

https://www.tenders.wa.gov.au/watenders/tender/request/request-spec-docs.do?tenderId=14984&method=downloadViaHTML

Last time I was at RPH the directions/signage didnt even correspond to the correct levels..

Some hospitals are quite confusing.. for example the 'ground' floor at Freo is actually Level 5 in some bits because it is built on a hill. This could explain it?

Should we retitle this thread as a general Health Infrastructure thread - use it to talk about QE2 development , whatever happens on Joondalup campus, Midland campus ...and the future of the PMH , KEMH , RPH sites ? ...

I'm going off this.

Construction begins at QEII
15-June-10 by Staff Reporters


The state government has announced construction work has started on a new state-of-the-art pathology centre and expansion of the State's Comprehensive Cancer Centre at the Queen Elizabeth II Medical Centre.

The two projects are valued at $54 million.

Several capital works projects will be built at QEII over the next six years, transforming it into one of Perth's largest medical, education and research facilities.

Health Minister Kim Hames said the projects would each deliver major benefits to the people of Western Australia.

He said the projects and would make up a co-ordinated health system across the metropolitan area which also includes the new $2billion Fiona Stanley Hospital, Sir Charles Gairdner (SCGH), Fremantle, Royal Perth and Joondalup hospitals and the new Midland Health Campus.

"Of the 50,000 Western Australians living with cancer, about 7,000 of those each year will be treated in this expanded Comprehensive Cancer Centre," Dr Hames said.

"The second stage of the Cancer Centre will bring together the existing services that operate in five locations on campus and bring them under one roof in a facility seven times the size of the Cancer Centre stage one," he said.

The expanded centre will accommodate 140,000 patient visits each year.

SCGH executive director Dr Amanda Ling said the facility would be a centre for excellence and designed to better meet the needs of patients.

"Through the support of the Commonwealth and CanTeen, the centre will have a designated age-specific area purely for adolescents and young adults living with cancer and will also house SolarisCare which offers free complementary therapies to all patients living with cancer," Dr Ling said.

"These will go a long way to improving the patient journey," she said.

Stage one of the new PathWest facility will provide world-class tertiary level diagnostic testing for hospitals, GPs and other clinicians in partnership with PathWest at Fiona Stanley Hospital.

The six-storey facility will include highly automated laboratories and state-of-the-art containment facilities for the investigation of high-risk infectious diseases.

PathWest executive director Silvano Palladino said the facility was expected to carry out several million patient tests each year.

"The higher level of automation will allow staff to perform increased levels of testing and in some areas will assist in producing faster test results," Mr Palladino said.

http://www.wabusinessnews.com.au/en-story.php?/1/81228/Construction-begins-at-QEII

Didnt realise how big this site was. Doesnt look that big from South St

I dont have exact numbers but the main building floor size will be about 3 times the size of Subiaco oval to put it into perspecitve. Thats the biggest tower.

Yeah its starting to gain a little height now

Oh wow I can't believe this thread actually saw the light of day!! haha

When I noticed it had to be approved I just figured only certain people could post threads... not to worry now! I work for the Health Department so have seen tons of info on Fiona Stanley and the upgrade to QEII (SCGH) so happy to post them up to keep people in the loop should they wish to know.

Thanks anyway!

This photo was taken from Murdoch station yesterday
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af80/eco186/P1010338.jpg

i dont understand how they can build office buildings so quickly, yet hospitals and schools take forever.

Oh wow I can't believe this thread actually saw the light of day!! haha

When I noticed it had to be approved I just figured only certain people could post threads... not to worry now! I work for the Health Department so have seen tons of info on Fiona Stanley and the upgrade to QEII (SCGH) so happy to post them up to keep people in the loop should they wish to know.

Thanks anyway!

Insider knowledge or info is warmly received :cheers:

i dont understand how they can build office buildings so quickly, yet hospitals and schools take forever.

Dude, you must have the shortest memory ever - name one thing that was built quickly in Perf?

Condor? BHP? Raine Sq?

Especially the beginning part takes a long time. Once it is going and the works connected to the ground are done, then the various jobs move a lot faster.

Dude, you must have the shortest memory ever - name one thing that was built quickly in Perf?

Condor? BHP? Raine Sq?

i was mainly talking smaller buildings, such as alluvion, i meant in terms of size..

FSH has three times the floor space of City Square. $2b is a lot of money to spend...

Hospitals r endless money bowls!

Oh wow I can't believe this thread actually saw the light of day!! haha

When I noticed it had to be approved I just figured only certain people could post threads... not to worry now! I work for the Health Department so have seen tons of info on Fiona Stanley and the upgrade to QEII (SCGH) so happy to post them up to keep people in the loop should they wish to know.

Thanks anyway!At Freo hospital Wayno?

i dont understand how they can build office buildings so quickly, yet hospitals and schools take forever.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldnt schools and hospitals, especially hospitals have a lot more facilities to tend to, which take more time, office buildings are basically the same each floor.

Hospitals have like different medical machinery to fit into rooms etc.

Plus, someone said its 3 times floor space as BHP xD. So would assume it would take approx 3 times the time frame also :}

just ensuring you meet the Australian standards for Health Care facilities is a job and a half!

In my experience the planning phase for renovating or building health care facilities goes on for twice as long as the actual building. i don't have any exposure to commercial office space but I would suggest that given all the technology and services that are used within modern wards and operating theatres it would be a walk in the park in comparison.

FSH is a world of its own, with its research areas, office towers and then the hospital wards ontop of that. You have to remember a hospital (this one in particular) with have thousands of rooms inside it, bedrooms, bathrooms, theatres, storage the list goes on and on. Highrise office buildings will have 5 or 6 rooms in the base build on each floor. Nothing in comparison.

Another reason why this project has taken so long to get under way is because of the rare flora that was on the site before works began. All Specimens we collected and relocated and stored to preserve the species. And then had the problem with the European house boarer on site which causes some problem with materials on site.

I hope the politics for this is resolved so that this project doesn't get delayed too much...


Shortage in medical staff could delay opening of Fiona Stanley Hospital
Anthony DeCeglie, Health Reporter From: PerthNow
June 23, 2010 1:35PM 31 comments (http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/shortage-in-medical-staff-could-delay-opening-of-fiona-stanley-hospital/comments-e6frg153-1225883306522)

http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2010/06/23/1225883/320906-pn-news-fionastanley.jpg
STAFF THREAT: Auditor general Colin Murphy says a lack of medical staff could further delay the Fiona Stanley Hospital. Source: PerthNow


A SHORTAGE of medical staff could delay the opening of Fiona Stanley Hospital in 2014, according to a report by the Auditor General.

Auditor General Colin Murphy released a report into the southern suburbs Fiona Stanley Hospital project today.

The $1.7 billion project has suffered massive delays and cost blowouts since it was initially announced in 2004.

The Labor Government at the time said the project would cost just $400 million and the opening date is now expected to be nearly four years later than planned.

Mr Murphy warned there were significant risks that could further delay the project, including staffing shortfalls.

“Workforce planning is a key risk,” the report said.

“WA Health have not yet defined the exact number of staff that will be required, but estimate that approximately 2000 medical, nursing and allied health professionals are needed to staff the hospital in 2014.

“Meeting this staffing requirement will be a significant challenge.”

Mr Murphy said staff may have to be poached from secondary hospitals to meet demands at FSH.

The report also found additional risks regarding the lack of a transition plan and concerns that the electronic system that will hold patient medical records at FSH might not be ready.

The retention of Royal Perth Hospital, which was going to close when FSH opened under the previous State Government, was also highlighted as a potential headache for the State Government.

“The Fiona Stanley Hospital is WA’s largest ever building project and the benefit of a ‘health check’ at this stage of the hospital development is that there is still time to address any risks and to potentially avoid any unnecessary cost increases and delays,” Mr Murphy said.

In the report, the Health Department said it accepted the Auditor General’s findings and that key issues were being addressed.



Source (http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/shortage-in-medical-staff-could-delay-opening-of-fiona-stanley-hospital/story-e6frg153-1225883306522)

Nothing suprising about that article for anyone who works in health..WA can't even staff the existing metro tertiary and secondary/general hospitals, let alone another one.

Workforce development/management has been a key health priority for years - ageing population, greater demands on healthcare etc, so there is really nothing new in this article, FSH simply highlights it. Sure there will be some staff coming from Fremantle when it opens, but FSH is significantly larger and Dick for Brains Barnett, desperate to get the Save RPH mob to vote for him, made promises which make staffing it impossible by saying they will keep RPH.

Agree - need to keep RPH north of Wellington. Convert south of Wellington to a university. But Barnett used it as a source of votes in the last election.

Agree - need to keep RPH north of Wellington. Convert south of Wellington to a university. But Barnett used it as a source of votes in the last election.

He was sketchy on the detail. He only mentioned that he would "save" the hospital; which doesn't necessarily mean in it's entirety.

Once Fiona Stanley is close to completion and the new Children's Hospital is under way I think we'll start to see some movements on Royal Perth.

A new, consolidated hospital north of Wellington and a mix of development on the existing south block site would be the best outcome.

By the time FSH is completed the south block of the hospital will be almost 40 years old would it not?

This years budget set aside a menial amount for pre planning. Nothing has been announced since then.

He was sketchy on the detail. He only mentioned that he would "save" the hospital; which doesn't necessarily mean in it's entirety.

Once Fiona Stanley is close to completion and the new Children's Hospital is under way I think we'll start to see some movements on Royal Perth.

A new, consolidated hospital north of Wellington and a mix of development on the existing south block site would be the best outcome.

By the time FSH is completed the south block of the hospital will be almost 40 years old would it not?


Apparently alot of the south block has what they call 'concrete cancer' which means they will likely demolish it. Hopefully they will put in its place the decent mix of development you mentioned.

I doubt that RPH will be saved beyond a token existence. It was one of those Barney (not really thought through) promises which on a practical level is not viable at all. Being a bshit election promise he'll simply reset the clock after the next election if he wins.

I doubt that RPH will be saved beyond a token existence. It was one of those Barney (not really thought through) promises which on a practical level is not viable at all. Being a bshit election promise he'll simply reset the clock after the next election if he wins.



I agree totally Samy, they r all full of token gestures.

As earlier post have stated- there will not be the staff or resources to forfill the growing QEII site and the FSH demands.

As the government is content with SCGH and the QEII as being the head of the NMHS despite its complete real lack of ability to provide what it should as the 'Super hospital' for the 'public/people and staff',' RPH realy no longer has a place- it once did!

From the Train station car park
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af80/eco186/FSH/P1010363.jpg

From the Train station
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af80/eco186/FSH/P1010365.jpg

Behind St John Hospital
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af80/eco186/FSH/P1010367.jpg
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af80/eco186/FSH/P1010368.jpg
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af80/eco186/FSH/P1010369.jpg
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af80/eco186/FSH/P1010370.jpg
At the entrance to St John
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af80/eco186/FSH/P1010371.jpg

From Murdoch Drive
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af80/eco186/FSH/P1010372.jpg
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af80/eco186/FSH/P1010373.jpg
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af80/eco186/FSH/P1010376.jpg
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af80/eco186/FSH/P1010377.jpg

Sorry if the quality is not too good, it was getting dark and i don't have that great a camera

Also how do you get photos to show right way up? i rotate on photobucket but it doesn't work

Is it just me, or is this building actually being built quite fast.

thank you Eco for the photo update.

Nice collection ^^ :)

As for the speed of the construction...

I would say this project has indeed picked up speed since the last major photo update...

there was something about this on the news tonight (weds) but i missed it, anyone see what it was about?

something about the size of it being over twice the size of central park or something?? obviously not in terms of height.

today tonight tonight for a tour

Is it just me, or is this building actually being built quite fast.

Multiplex are some really efficient mofos!!

Every time I see their logo at a construction site I breathe a sigh of relief!!

It's on Today Tonight, Tonight...
It was just a preview last night at the end of Today Tonight

I wasnt watching it, my sister inlaw rang me and told me :)
They said its the biggest project WA has ever undertaken, is this true?

But I might actually watch Today Tonight for once :O

Also, Gabe I completly agree.

saw the preview last night

larger than the perth malls
bigger than several central parks put together
biggest project undertaken in WA (insert some disclaimer)
it WILL save more lives than anything else in Perth
State of the art
World class

People of perth rejoice! Fiona stanley hospital coming your way

I would now sleep better knowing I can carry on smoking, snorting, popping, drinking, eating junk and sitting on my arse watching TT as I WILL BE SAVED!

It is the biggest public works project ever undertaken in WA, pipping the NMR by about $500m.

6th crane also up (hammerhead) and one of the service cores has topped out.

No **** better whinge about spending money on hospitals again!!

Just found a time lapse for the build of the storm drainage system, it's a tad long (8minutes) but interesting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWpUIHZNblg

I see this construction almost every week so i thought i'd update.
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af80/eco186/Perth%20develolpments/Perth%20CBD%20Photography/DSC00368.jpg
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af80/eco186/Perth%20develolpments/Perth%20CBD%20Photography/DSC00368.jpg
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af80/eco186/Perth%20develolpments/Perth%20CBD%20Photography/DSC00371.jpg
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af80/eco186/Perth%20develolpments/Perth%20CBD%20Photography/DSC00371.jpg

And the Mural, as i was bored waiting 20 minutes for the train

http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af80/eco186/Perth%20develolpments/Perth%20CBD%20Photography/DSC00384.jpg
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af80/eco186/Perth%20develolpments/Perth%20CBD%20Photography/DSC00384.jpg
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af80/eco186/Perth%20develolpments/Perth%20CBD%20Photography/DSC00386.jpg
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af80/eco186/Perth%20develolpments/Perth%20CBD%20Photography/DSC00386.jpg

Also they've made much more progress on the Murdoch Drive side, with them starting to put up the glass.

thx for the update! 8th crane coming soon.

Cheers Dilaz, i might try and get photos from the other side, you can see heaps more progress from there

this whole precinct including st john's makes almost tha size foot print of royal melbourne/health precinct... hawt. (yes understand size isn't what matters...) :p

i still can't believe it's so far out of tha city... i can only imagine this precinct will continue to grow and consolidate... maybe?

Murdoch will be an activity centre. There will be towers around the station where at-grade carparks currently exist.

Murdoch will be an activity centre. There will be towers around the station where at-grade carparks currently exist.

Nice indeed, so the Murdoch Park n Ride will be eventually another TOD estate; with residential towers with mixed retail etc; all of which will complement the neighbouring hospital and university activity areas :)

i still can't believe it's so far out of tha city... i can only imagine this precinct will continue to grow and consolidate... maybe?

It's only 15 mins (~15km ) from the city hardly far out of the city about half the distance to Joondalup.
It was a long way from the city when Murdoch Uni was built in 1975 but since the freeway was built and other major roads like South St and Roe Hwy link to Fremantle (which is less than 10km away) Murdoch is inner city for the suburbs

And yes it is meant to service the southern Corridor which is growing south of Cockburn.

Straightforward path for an ambulance to get there too, which is a handy feature for a hospital. There's alot of Perth I'd back an ambo to get to Murdoch before Royal Perth from.

Straightforward path for an ambulance to get there too, which is a handy feature for a hospital. There's alot of Perth I'd back an ambo to get to Murdoch before Royal Perth from.

good point and even in peak hour freeway nightmare traffic, theres the emergency lane they can use.

There's alot of Perth I'd back an ambo to get to Murdoch before Royal Perth from.

I am sure there's a hundred better ways you could have worded this sentence lol. My eyes blurred after the second time :)

Signed,

Your English Teacher

WA union slams privatisation plans
From: AAP October 27, 2010 4:23PM 4 comments


PATIENTS at the new Fiona Stanley Hospital won't be affected by plans to privatise certain services, West Australian Premier Colin Barnett has vowed.

But the WA Secretary of the Liquor, Hospitality and Miscellaneous Union (LHMU) has slammed the "patronising" suggestion, saying Mr Barnett doesn't understand how hospitals work.

The state government plans on outsourcing various services at the hospital to the company Serco, which currently provides services to hospitals in the UK and manages Australia's immigration centres.
Advertisement: Story continues below

The LHMU launched its campaign against any privatisation of services at Fiona Stanley Hospital on Wednesday, which will include bombarding 100,000 voters in key Liberal-held marginal seats with automated phone calls.

The union also took out a full-page advertisement in the West Australian newspaper calling the hospital the "Fiona Stanley Prison".

Mr Barnett called the advertisement "totally offensive", saying it was an insult to the former Australian of the Year, Ms Stanley and the people who will work at the hospital.

He said the government was not privatising the hospital and all medical services will be provided by paid public servants.

"All the doctors, all the nurses, all the associated medical services. What we're looking at is contracting out to Serco the provisions of other services," he told reporters on Wednesday.

Mr Barnett added: "The point is for the patients, the people who really matter, their services are provided by the government through the public sector employees in a public hospital."

However, LHMU state secretary Dave Kelly said Mr Barnett was naive to think patients would not be affected by any plans to privatise services as hospital staff work likes a team.

"This idea that what they're privatising at Fiona Stanley is inappropriate or trivial work, it shows he doesn't understand how a hospital runs," he told AAP.

"It's incredibly insulting to the staff who run our hospitals. It's incredibly patronising. It's like saying an AFL teams can run onto the field without any trainers or training staff."

Mr Kelly said the services which will be privatised include sterilisation, patient record management, ward clerks, orderlies, cleaning and catering.

The $2 billion Fiona Stanley Hospital in the south Perth suburb of Murdoch is due to be completed in 2014. It will have more than 780 beds.
http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/wa-union-slams-privatisation-plans/story-e6frg153-1225944381302

unions crying foul.

it's so obvious their agenda is to keep tha services unionised so every 2 days they can hit up tha govt for dollars and dollars all in tha name "safety"...

we have an outbreak of dust! quick call tha minister!!!!

it's such a shame that unions breed so much ill will. ive gotten to the stage where im increasingly for 457 visas to put these c**ts out of work

unions had their place back in the day but they are now by and large equal parts nuisance and hindrance

Unions only represent 8% of the working population so i don't see why they should have so much political pull

Although radical church groups (as opposed to non-radical believers of god(s)) and other groups like NIMBYs also have massive lobby power even though they represent small number of people.

These are services that can be privatised, though i do feel for the unions low paid workers who struggle to get by. Some of the worst jobs one could possibily do.

Although radical church groups

You're comparing unions to radical church groups in terms of influence in Australia??

:lol::lol:

Unions only represent 8% of the working population so i don't see why they should have so much political pull


But so many are taking advantage of the benefits that the Trade Union movement has achieved.
Does your boss pay you super, annual leave and sick leave because he and the government think your such a good bloke and deserve it?

You shouldn't pick the fruit unless you have watered the tree.

lol, fair enough but i don't think that them being represented by around 60% of the federal labor party is a good thing for Aussie politics when their actual membership is so low

Unions only represent 8% of the working population so i don't see why they should have so much political pull

Actually Unions represent a much higher proportion of individuals than that. 1.8 million people (22% of full time employees and 15% of part time employees).

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/8227/img5841s.jpg

Date: 20/11/2010
Source: Me
Host: Imageshack

did you see the xmas tree?

I had the lovely Dr Fiona Stanley on my flight the other day. Did a double take over her boarding pass. She couldn't have been nicer had she been Mother Theresa.

Murdoch will be an activity centre. There will be towers around the station where at-grade carparks currently exist.

Not any time soon, though. The only multi-level development in the short term is probably going to be a carpark at the station.

did you see the xmas tree?

Hmm?

next time you go past have a close look at one of the topped out cores ;)

Not any time soon, though. The only multi-level development in the short term is probably going to be a carpark at the station.

Is that what the structure closest to the freeway is?

next time you go past have a close look at one of the topped out cores ;)

Will do. Am planning on getting some different angled shots this weekend, and doing a big walk through the city and Subiaco for photo opportunities.

Is that what the structure closest to the freeway is?

Which side is it?

South eastern, closest to the freeway.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5168/5359954066_81a39d8a3a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/itrax/5359954066/)
IMGP7390 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/itrax/5359954066/) by iTrax (http://www.flickr.com/people/itrax/), on Flickr

10 cranes are now active on site. By far the most i've ever seen.

One of my good friends is one of the contract managers acting for the government on the site and he says that BM are the slickest operation he's seen, and he's done similar work in other parts of the country.

This project is now proceeding very well.

Amazing progess so far, but still such a long way to go! This is a massive project!! If only Brookfield Multiplex were awarded every major project... They are one of the two alliances going for City Link right???

Amazing progess so far, but still such a long way to go! This is a massive project!! If only Brookfield Multiplex were awarded every major project... They are one of the two alliances going for City Link right???

Yes they are, the other company is Mr Holland I think
they are both JV's though :)
pray to god Brookfield get it

Ditto, hope BM apply for waterfront also?

Pretty sure they are tendering for Riverside aswell, haha

One of my good friends is one of the contract managers acting for the government on the site and he says that BM are the slickest operation he's seen, and he's done similar work in other parts of the country.

This project is now proceeding very well.

Not so sure about other parts of the country though..heard many bad things especially in QLD

Earlier today:
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af80/eco186/438.jpg
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af80/eco186/438.jpg
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af80/eco186/430.jpg
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af80/eco186/430.jpg
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af80/eco186/433.jpg
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af80/eco186/433.jpg
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af80/eco186/434.jpg
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af80/eco186/434.jpg
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af80/eco186/435.jpg
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af80/eco186/435.jpg
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af80/eco186/436.jpg
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af80/eco186/436.jpg
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af80/eco186/437.jpg
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af80/eco186/437.jpg
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af80/eco186/440.jpg
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af80/eco186/440.jpg
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af80/eco186/441.jpg
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af80/eco186/441.jpg
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af80/eco186/442.jpg
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af80/eco186/442.jpg

Fuck me dead how quick has this thing gone up? Make Perth Arena look like its being built by 2 year olds using lego for the first time.

I've not seen something go up so quickly, haha
a good looking hospital, didnt know I'd see such a thing

whats the building coverd in glass for? does anyone have a site map or something that shows what is what..?

Fuck me dead how quick has this thing gone up? Make Perth Arena look like its being built by 2 year olds using lego for the first time.

Not to mention the area of this project is much larger than perth arena

48 MByte QE2 Medical Centre Masterplan can be downloaded from this webpage...

http://www.nmahs.health.wa.gov.au/BuildingProgram/QEII/index.html

has some conceptual renders with light rail running through the site ... (can someone maybe extract the renders from the PDF and post them separately)

will need light rail too.. when you consider it's going to get the childrens hospital, the womens hospital, new research institutes etc ...

^doing now :)

woah i actually thought whats this glass building on the side at first haha.
wasnt there the last time i checked, theyre moving their arses with this thing.

This looks fantastic! Super hospital super pace

48 MByte QE2 Medical Centre Masterplan can be downloaded from this webpage...

http://www.nmahs.health.wa.gov.au/BuildingProgram/QEII/index.html

has some conceptual renders with light rail running through the site ... (can someone maybe extract the renders from the PDF and post them separately)

will need light rail too.. when you consider it's going to get the childrens hospital, the womens hospital, new research institutes etc ...

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/1305/68147759.jpg

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/8750/42566942.jpg

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/750/15842092.jpg

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/9809/65184395.jpg

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2798/94932470.jpg

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/8637/33425098.jpg

http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/1310/20190613.jpg

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/7071/23426513.jpg

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6245/28637973.jpg

I say we make this into something like a hospital thread or something

Looks brilliant! Go BM!

There's a crane going up at QEII. Anyone know what it's for?

Possibly Pathwest or Cancer Centre Stage II

Cancer Centre is more along then Pathwest so I might say that

If there is something WA does well, hospitals surely has to be up there.

The decision to focus all of the cities health services around 4 major campuses I believe will prove to be one of the best health decisions made in Perth for a long time. Having highly developed campuses at Murdoch, QEII, Joondalup and Midland will serve the city well for at least the next 50 years.

QEII and Fiona Stanley are both going to be massive complexes when they are done. QEII in particular, it is already one of the largest health campuses in the country.

I just worry about the old bitties getting lost!

SCGH is already the second largest hospital in Australia. This will make it by far the largest, and I suspect Fiona Stanley will be number two

Subiaco is seemingly surrounded by Hospitals - QEII/SCGH, Hollywood, RPH Shenton Park Campus, King Edward, St John of God, PMH!

Graylands? or is that Shenton Park Campus..?

Graylands? or is that Shenton Park Campus..?

RPH Shenton is a seperate place, and it's a massive shit hole. Barely can be called a hospital.

Graylands is an entirely seperate place.

Perth - City of Hospitals?

Perth - City of Hospitals?

Every politician knows you can never have too many hospitals!


Don't worry about Stadiums, Light Rail, Freeways, Museums, Tourist Attractons..... we NEED more hospitals!

Perth - City of Hospitals?

Quick - send the suggestion to the State Government as a motto for the license plates!

^^ itll keep all those morons who comment on stories on PerthNow happy!!

LOL Samy

Depends which area you are talking about.

I presume you are talking about the Cancer Centre.
Pathwest and WAIMR is also going up- they will be about 8 floors I think.

Also work on the new Power Plant which will be about 3 times the size will be built on the West side of the campus and will start soon.

The entire QEll site is actually the biggest health capmus site in the Southern Hemisphere!

Out of the renders for the QEll site development on the page before- only the building directly to the right (or what is geographically west) of G Block (and is the new Pathwest/ WAIMR building) is approved and currently going up. All others are hypotheticals- a considerable portion of one of the renders shows new buildings on what I think actually is or is becoming heritaged listed

Either way most of those buildings if they happen wont be for years yet.

First will be the new childrens hospital at the front of the site which has not been shown in any of these renders

This should go here :)

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4535/fionast.jpg

wow fastest project in wa history!

The more I think about it, given the massive ultimate size of the QE II campus, I wonder if a subterranean spur off the Freo line at Subi, going down Rokeby rd then Thomas St to QE II then finishing at UWA would be a better public transport solution rather than light rail, with say just one other station at hamersley st

Not really worth it for the line unless you keep going to Dalkeith and completely build up Nedlands, Crawley and Dalkeith...

We'll be out of functional antibiotics within a decade, these hospitals are such a waste of money.

I wonder if you could slip your ambulance driver a couple of bucks to bypass the shithole that's royal perth and drive straight to FSH

FSH is replacing RPH riiight? I know Barney is having a rant or should I say Had a rant pre election, 'saving' RPH.

Some services at RPH are being moved to FSH but RPH is being retained

I wonder if you could slip your ambulance driver a couple of bucks to bypass the shithole that's royal perth and drive straight to FSH

they wont but they will happily drop you off at the nearest train station.

RPH is only crap because its so OLD.

Yes, it will always be a 20th century designed building (crap) Labor’s plan was to ditch the old part.

Imagine if FSH wasn’t going ahead, but instead a total refurbishment of RPH…No comparison to a 21th century designed building WSE. The same thing can be said regarding a refurbished Subiaco oval…Still stuck in the 20th century no matter what...Wrong thread?

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/201005/r575358_3580072.jpghttp://www.abc.net.au

I wonder if you could slip your ambulance driver a couple of bucks to bypass the shithole that's royal perth and drive straight to FSH

if youve got a few buck spare you shouldnt be going to RPH in the first place

if youve got a few buck spare you shouldnt be going to RPH in the first place

oh serious question. If you have Private health cover, can you go to a private hospital for emergency care? (don't know much about the system)

I think so - in an Emergency I don't think they'd split hairs.

no idea but i think that is the case. i know my dad was admitted into private hospital when he had an emergency but unsure if that is because i took him there personally or if that wouldve been the case anyway.

you'd certainly hope so, imagine being taken to a dump like freo hospital in an emergency if you were equal distance away from say SJOG murdoch and had private health

doctors i know would always recommend getting emergency treatment at public rather than private hospitals. much better staffed etc. surgery etc is a different story.

doctors i know would always recommend getting emergency treatment at public rather than private hospitals. much better staffed etc. surgery etc is a different story.

Personally, I'd recommend public. Chiefly, with public hospital being able to afford many more specialists, you tend to get a more 'triangulated' approach to treatment.

For surgery, yeah, public is still decent, same as oncology. Mental health is hands-down better in the public system.

Having worked in the Emergency departments at RPH, Charlies and Freo and been the father of a patient at Swans, I can assure you that they all are staffed by extremely professional and dedicated staff backed up by equally proficient support services such as Pathwest, radiology etc etc.

Having worked in the Emergency departments at RPH, Charlies and Freo and been the father of a patient at Swans, I can assure you that they all are staffed by extremely professional and dedicated staff backed up by equally proficient support services such as Pathwest, radiology etc etc.

Amen! Cheers

I'd choose a public hospital in Perth over a private one any day. Charlies actually, given the choice.

i obviously stand corrected then

Phew - you guys have helped me not fill in the private health cover forms I've been procrastinating over.

Having been through two birthing events, we had a great time in Public (King Eddies) but the private experience seems to have a few perks. However I believe in many cases if it is a difficult birth they are transferred to King Eddies as it has the resources and staff to cater for such emergencies that private hospitals lack.

experts - is public only better for emergencies? under what circumstances is private better?

I'm no expert - may be less of a queue at privates (for semi emergencies)?

I've been to both RPH and Charlie's for non-life threatening emergencies and found them both to be quite good (once you go in). No experience with Private.

experts - is public only better for emergencies? under what circumstances is private better?

Better food
nicer room (maybe)
not having to mix it with drug addicts and drunks and just generally the lower classes in the waiting room
when the govt taxes your income so much for not having private that you may as well get it
Choice of specialists (so you get the same doctor as the rest of the mums at PLC).
No waiting lists - this is the killer - not having to wait a long time for non-urgent joint surgery/treatment that may well be pretty annoying to live with.
Access to more advanced treatments that public may not offer.

oh sorry you said experts...

one concrete example... mates with private often get to stay in the room with their wives when babies are born, rather than have to trek in and out at visiting times (which are fairly relaxed anyway).

one concrete example... mates with private often get to stay in the room with their wives when babies are born, rather than have to trek in and out at visiting times (which are fairly relaxed anyway).

^^
Correct. Just got back from staying with the wife in hospital. Did it the first time round also.

Not sure if many of you here have that as a valid reason to get private health cover though...

Sounds a bit like congratulations are in order Steve?

experts - is public only better for emergencies? under what circumstances is private better?

I'm not an expert, but that never stops me.

Maybe private is better for things like elective surgery and surgery in general? I've seen my mother and now a friend through cancer treatment, both had private cover, they were sent to private hospitals for surgery and for everything else to public.

The lines are a bit blurred in terms of private/public. You can go through the public system as a private patient, you just get fast-tracked.

My thoughts are that the most important thing is to chose a good specialist over worrying about which hospital. They decide where it's best for you to go anyway for a procedure and they all seem to work across both public and private hospitals. I think that the idea is that they manoeuvre you through the best and quickest of both systems. As long as you've got private cover.

Just a random comment...something I've only just realised is that if you go into a public hospital under the public system because you don't have health insurance, there can be quite long delays for even things like cancer treatment. If my friend hadn't private cover, effectively the commencement of her treatment would have been delayed by five weeks. An eye opener for me.

From the orginal Q about going to a Private Hospital for emergancy care- you can ut they most likely ship you to a Public. Most to the point of NEARLY all dont have the facilities to cope and most certainly not in acute serious emergencies.

If you want treatment straight away for elective stuff- say you want your routine colonoscopy then go private youll get it quicker.

In the case of cancer treatment just looked at certain waiting times for apointments for certain things- you may get in a few days earlier if you go private!!!

Other surgery other emergancies- I would definately without a doubt go Public. All the surgeons, specialist who work in Public have private rooms and work through Private Hospitals- so you are getting the same specialist treatment at Public the difference is- you dont pay and you dont actually choose which consultant over sees your treatment.

In Private you will get better meals and a TV but you dont necessarily get your own room- and there are waiting list! A pt the other day was waiting 4 weeks for a bed for a semi acute presenting problem and so had to present to public to get in and then get transferred- so where was his money going.

The stories are endless re unhappiness with Private- also if there is a problem then youll be transferred str8 away to Public.

Less nurses- despite people think there is more to fluff ya pillows- they have bigger pt loads despite being paid less.

You may see your consultant once despite being paid more.

The choice is yours! LOL

Moral of the story - Get Private Health Insurance (to cover your arse) and go public when necessary.

My old man had surgery at a Public hospital as a private patient. Only difference was a 'VIP' pack which included some toothpaste a box of tissues and a couple of vouchers for visitors to use at the Canteen. I still have some if anyone wants to go on a date with me ;) Aparently you get your own 'liaison' as well, whatever that means but we never saw he/she/it.
We figured we save the govt a couple of bucks by going private since he had it anyway. Although much of a muchness really if you're with Medibank (govt owned).

WCG - interesting, that was my impression as well at private hospitals, grossly understaffed nurse and orderly wise. And the staff that were there were surly and unhelpful, probably because they were overworked. Everything is so clean and new looking in them, but it's all meaningless if you die from infection through lack of after-care.


Only difference was a 'VIP' pack which included some toothpaste a box of tissues and a couple of vouchers for visitors to use at the Canteen. I still have some if anyone wants to go on a date with me ;)

Pick me, yum, sandwich triangles!

haha I sure know how to wow the ladies!!

Moral of the story - Get Private Health Insurance (to cover your arse) and go public when necessary.

My old man had surgery at a Public hospital as a private patient. Only difference was a 'VIP' pack which included some toothpaste a box of tissues and a couple of vouchers for visitors to use at the Canteen. I still have some if anyone wants to go on a date with me ;) Aparently you get your own 'liaison' as well, whatever that means but we never saw he/she/it.
We figured we save the govt a couple of bucks by going private since he had it anyway. Although much of a muchness really if you're with Medibank (govt owned).

If there is one thing that a Public hospital loves it is a private patient! Basically they get to keep all the money that the patient's fund (or the patient) pays and it doesn't impact on what the Government hands out to them - ie money for jam. Most of the teaching hospitals have a private patient liason officer. In days gone by I think that public hospitals averaged around 15% private, but now I think it is quite a lot lower, less than 5%, I haven't dealt with this for a while but I suspect this is still the case

Yes, if u present to a public hospital dont waste your time going private.

The only reason why I have private insurance is a TAX break- absolutely no other reason!!!

^^ There is that - but my unusual knee surgery would have been even more expensive if I wasn't privately insured.

hey, i was just having a look at Fiona Stanley on nearmaps (the lastest update as of 15th Feb is just starting to come online) and i was ASTOUNDED at the size of this project. so i went and looked at the site plan on the website and used that to label the nearmap aerial view, just so we can get some idea of the scale of this development and the amazing progress that has been made.
http://load.hostphotofree.com/acd1fd0a5b56ed414d4aaefd5533c365/FSH.png
edit: better quality picture...

It's 50% carpark going off that map :P

Wow that's big.
Easily dwarfs the private hospital.

huge!

^^ i drove past today and there are 9 cranes...

I wonder when Kalgoorlie Hospital will be finally finished?

From thewest.com.au:

"New Joondalup health facilities open"

Families in Perth's northern suburbs will have access to 55 more hospital beds and improved emergency care with a new $20.8 million ward and $29 million emergency department at Joondalup Health Campus officially opened this morning.

Health Minister Kim Hames said the new facilities and increased capacity at the Joondalup Health Campus would help reduce pressure on other hospitals and reduce emergency waiting times.

Dr Hames said over 150,000 patients were treated annually with over 68,000 presentations to the hospital's emergency department last year.

The new Wanneroo ward, which accommodates aged care, rehabilitation and surgical patients, will provide an additional 55 hospital beds, including 51 single rooms and two double-bed rooms with en suite bathrooms.

The $29 million emergency department has 30 adult treatment bays, a 12 bed emergency admission unit for patients requiring observation, an 11 bed paediatric treatment and observation area and three resuscitation bays as well as a $350,000 digital radiography machine to X-ray patients with minimal movement.

The hospital will also operate as a designated disaster management site, with the ED containing external decontamination showers and an isolation room to treat infectious patients.

Premier Colin Barnett said the State Government was investing $229.8 million to expand public hospital facilities at Joondalup Health Campus over the next two years.

"This demonstrates our commitment to deliver real improvements in public hospital services for people living in Perth's northern suburbs and also shows we are increasing capacity in the State's health system," he said.
The Joondalup Health Campus has been running as a private hospital since 1996 with the campus to double in size by 2013, include a 61 per cent increase in public beds to 451 and a new 145 bed private hospital. The expansion will also include 11 new operating theatres, up from the existing six, a new critical care unit, a St John Ambulance depot, a child care centres and new carparks.

http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2011/03/08/1226017/842454-waimr-building.jpg

Doric Contractors wins construction tender for Perth's new medical research hub
Nick Evans, Business Reporter From: PerthNow March 08, 2011 12:54PM

The Western Australian Institute for Medical Research announced today that construction of its new 10 storey building at the Queen Elizabeth II Medical Centre (QEIIMC) will begin immediately.

In total the facility will cost more than $105 million to build, including the building fit-out and laboratory facilities, with $50 million coming from the Federal Government, $25 million from the State Government, and $25 million from the University of Western Australia.

Lotterywest will chip in $5.4 million and the McCusker Charitable foundation will contribute the $1.5 million cost of the main auditorium.

This medical research facility will contain laboratories - including a demonstration laboratory for public education - clinical research space, significant medical equipment facilities, offices, auditorium, seminar rooms, meeting places and a cafe.

The building was designed by architecture firm Hames Sharley.

WAIMR director Professor Peter Klinken said the new facility will help attract medical researcher from around the world to Perth.

. “It will bring together laboratory-based scientists and clinical researchers. It should attract top researchers and clinicians from around the globe to carry out their exciting medical research in Perth," he said.

“Our research teams are already making amazing discoveries which will lead to future treatments for cancers, diabetes, muscular diseases, liver disease and more. This leading edge, well-equipped facility will help us fulfil our vision of a healthier future."

The WAIMR facility is expected to be completed early in 2013 and is part of the expansion of the QEII Medical Centre.

http://www.perthnow.com.au/gallery-e6frg1vc-1226017851289?page=1

Wait for it ...

bob of perth Posted at 3:32 PM March 08, 2011
FINALLY money spent on something very worthwhile and long overdue.

:bash:

I don't have any problem with heath spending, especially if it is for more infrastructure.

I do however, dislike the crowd who think [state] governments have been starving health of funding.

The thing looks good enough to be in the CBD
Same fella did Enex :)

http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2011/03/08/1226017/859140-waimr-research-centre.jpg

http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2011/03/08/1226017/850337-waimr-research-centre.jpg

http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2011/03/08/1226017/850370-waimr-research-centre.jpg

http://www.perthnow.com.au/gallery-e6frg1vc-1226017851289

I recon it looks BETTER than a lot of the bland boring buildings in the CBD right now (both under construction and recently completed)

I recon it looks BETTER than a lot of the bland boring buildings in the CBD right now (both under construction and recently completed)

This is just a render though, there have been lots of speccy renders for completed CBD buildings.

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4894/img6438.png

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6282/img6439.png

Source: Me
Host: Imageshack

New hospital contractors shortlisted

The Liberal-National Government today announced the three private sector organisations that have been shortlisted to design and build the state's $1.17billion new children's hospital, to be located at the QEII Medical Centre.

Health Minister Kim Hames and Treasurer Christian Porter named the Leighton Contractors and Broad Construction Services joint venture, Brookfield Multiplex Constructions and John Holland as the successful applicants.

"All three organisations are well known in the construction industry and have demonstrated they can take on the significant role as managing contractor. They bring with them a strong design capability with suitable health and paediatric design experience," Dr Hames said.

"One of these organisations will have the unique opportunity to design and build a first-class hospital for the children and families of Western Australia."

Submissions from experienced private sector operators were rigorously reviewed after they responded to the State Government's invitation for Expressions of Interest (EOI) in January.

With capacity for 274 beds and housing the state's only paediatric trauma centre, the hospital will be built using a two stage managing contractor process, with construction expected to start in early 2012 and be completed in late 2015.

The leading paediatric hospital, research and education facility will replace Princess Margaret Hospital.

Following the evaluation of the EOIs will be the second stage in the procurement process - Request for Proposal (RFP).

"The three selected contractors will be issued with an RFP and, once the completed proposals have been reviewed, we will enter into contractual negotiations with the preferred candidate," Mr Porter said.

It is expected negotiations will be completed in time to enable the appointment of the managing contractor in the middle of this year.

"This process will allow construction to start early next year and we are confident the new hospital will be delivered on time and on budget," the Treasurer said.

Saucy (http://www.wabusinessnews.com.au/en-story/1/87990/New-hospital-contractors-shortlisted)

So what happens to PMH and the land once this is operating?

does anyone know how much has been spent recently (or is proposed to be spent) on hospitals in perth as well as regionally?

^About $3bn.

Hopefully BM pick up the childrens hospital, or the others come to the party with some descent EBA's

Sorry, what are EBA's?

Wikipedia said-Enterprise Bargaining Agreement?

An Enterprise Bargaining Agreement (EBA) consists of a collective industrial agreement between either an employer and a trade union acting on behalf of employees or an employer and employees acting for themselves.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterprise_Bargaining_Agreement

So the Fiona Stanley/St John of God medical area is set to get even more epic

---------------------------------------------------------------

$234m expansion for St John of God
CATHY O’LEARY, MEDICAL EDITOR,
The West Australian April 12, 2011, 3:04 pm


St John of God Hospital in Murdoch will undergo a $234 million expansion that will allow it to cater for an extra 25,000 patients a year.

The Murdoch expansion, WA’s largest ever private health sector investment, will increase the number of beds from 357 to 522.

Hospital chief executive Peter Mott said the redevelopment plan was aimed at meeting anticipated growth in demand, with three stages of development over the next decade.

It will add eight theatres, a medical clinic and a comprehensive cancer centre by 2015 to cope with Perth’s booming southern corridor.

“In addition to benefiting patients, around 200 jobs will be created in stage one alone for clinical and support staff, providing a further boost to local and state economies,” Mr Mott said.

Mr Mott said that together with the adjacent Fiona Stanley Hospital, the redevelopment would establish Murdoch as the state’s largest and most comprehensive health precinct, with 1305 private and public hospital beds.
Building will start early next year, with new services coming online from 2013 through to 2015, coinciding with the opening of Fiona Stanley Hospital in 2014.

not enough. I want more! what's that foreshore thing they're wasting money on again?

Will there be much room for combining some facilities given the two hospitals are adjacent to each other? There seems to be some pretty significant economies of scale in a 1300 bed hospital complex.

It certainly looks like Perth is heading down the 'super' hospital route.

They should build a hospital on the foreshore. That'd create a marvellous activity centre.

That's what I suggested long time ago. Ambulance activity on weekends and full moons = Instant Vibrancy

An iconic hospital building...

That's what I suggested long time ago. Ambulance activity on weekends and full moons = Instant Vibrancy

LOL :lol: :lol: :lol:

They should build a hospital on the foreshore. That'd create a marvellous activity centre.

They did that in Canberra - and half the city was born there.

I remember the day 10 years ago (?) when they imploded the old thing.

100,000 people (one-third city's population) came to see.

Brick flew across the lake and killed a teenage girl.

Will there be much room for combining some facilities given the two hospitals are adjacent to each other? There seems to be some pretty significant economies of scale in a 1300 bed hospital complex.

It certainly looks like Perth is heading down the 'super' hospital route.

No doubt that many specialists will have their private rooms in the immediate vicinity, if not at one of the two hospital sites. A travelator between the two sites might make getting them between their private and public work quicker than getting in their Merc's.

In all seriousness..I think a lot of support services will set up in the area, but doubt there will be any true integration between them.

i heard on the weekend that there are talks underway between the 2 parties to share some services like specialists etc. this is second hand info from my mum or dad but they heard from someone who is involved.

WAIMR
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/7840/dsc0093nx.jpg

http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2011/03/08/1226017/859140-waimr-research-centre.jpg

^^^^ That's not the WAIMR construction site, I believe it's the Pathwest building. The WAIMR building is still doing ground works.

^ Whats pathwest look like then?, I've always thought it was WAIMR

-edit-
just looked at it, you are correct :)

Pathwest
$54million
Six levels
http://i54.************/2ryrl08.jpg

This document is pretty clear in telling you things
http://www.nmahs.health.wa.gov.au/BuildingProgram/QEII/pdf/QEII_MedicalCentreConstructionProgram.pdf

Very good timeline picture aswell

Emergency times cut, but biggest hospital still falls short Liam Phillips
April 30, 2011 - 11:30AM
.
The government is claiming big progress in cutting hospital waiting times.

The state government has branded the four-hour rule to cut hospital emergency department waiting times a success, despite Perth's biggest hospital still failing to hit its target.

Health Minister Kim Hames said three of Perth's major hospitals - Royal Perth, Fremantle and Princess Margaret - were now running well ahead of the goal of seeing 85 per cent of patients within four hours.

The target was reduced from 98 per cent last year after Dr Hames admitted it was unrealistic.

Advertisement: Story continues below Last week, Royal Perth Hospital saw 92.8 per cent of patients within four hours, well up on the 66.3 per cent figure for this time last year. At Fremantle, the figure was 88.2 per cent, up from 76.2 per cent, and Princess Margaret Hospital was seeing 96.8 per cent of patients within the desired time, up from 93.2 per cent.

But Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital was still struggling, with just 75.2 per cent of patients seen within four hours. The figure was well up on last year's figure of 57.3, and Dr Hames said the hospital had hit its target on certain days, but had fallen short over the week.

"This is a fantastic achievement, particularly given that there has been a 9 per cent increase in emergency department presentations so far this year," he said.

Dr Hames said the four-hour rule program had made significant inroads in addressing access block, where a patient waits for more than eight hours for a bed.

"Recent figures show access block has dropped to 10.9 per cent in March 2011, compared to 25.1 per cent for the same time in 2010," he said.

But opposition health spokesman Roger Cook attacked the figures as a sham, saying the "watered down" target of 85 per cent meant the hospitals were still not adequately addressing the issue of patient waiting times.

"The report revealed one of Western Australia's biggest hospitals, Sir Charles Gairdner, did not even reach the revised target, making a mockery of the Barnett Government's policy," he said.

"Before the latest quarter Royal Perth Hospital had never achieved a score of more that 75 per cent in its four-hour rule report. Yet somehow, RPH has produced a miraculous, last minute turn around and posted a 92.8 per cent result which, quite frankly, defies belief.

"I want to know if other areas of the hospital suffered in this effort to reach the watered-down target."

Mr Cook said it was not surprising hospitals were seeing patients faster given the lower demand over the summer months. However, the real test would come in the next few months when the flu season and colder weather kicked in.

http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/emergency-times-cut-but-biggest-hospital-still-falls-short-20110430-1e1pn.html#ixzz1L2sa74cg

John Holland wins $1.2bn QEII contract
1-July-11 by Staff Reporters


John Holland has beaten two other construction groups to be nominated by the state government to design and build the new $1.2 billion children's hospital at the QEII Medical Centre.

The competing consortia were a joint venture comprising Leighton Contractors and Broad Construction Services, and Brookfield Multiplex Constructions .

John Holland has significant experience in the management and delivery of major infrastructure projects, Treasurer Christian Porter said, and as such was well placed to deliver the hospital.

It is also contracted to deliver the Albany Health Campus, the redevelopment and expansion of Joondalup Health Campus and the Hollywood Hospital.

The value of works to be delivered by John Holland on the project will total approximately $800 million, subject to progression to the second phase of the two stage Managing Contractor process.

General Manager of John Holland's western region, Adam Harry, said: "John Holland has assembled an industry leading team of architects, engineers, project managers and construction professionals with contemporary experience in the design of paediatric health facilities, combined with John Holland's local knowledge and expertise in the construction of major hospital projects."

"We are proud to have been entrusted to deliver the new children's hospital for the people of Western Australia, presenting a once in a lifetime opportunity to deliver a critical piece of social infrastructure for generations to come."

John Holland's health design team has also received industry recognition for its innovative design of Melbourne's new Royal Children's Hospital, Health Minister Kim Hames said.

"We are looking forward to working with John Holland on the design and construction of the State's new tertiary-level paediatric hospital," Dr Hames said.

"As part of the New Children's Hospital Project, a paediatric research and education facility will be integrated into the new hospital. This will house the Telethon Institute for Child Health Research (TICHR), and research programs from The University of WA, Curtin University and Princess Margaret Hospital.

"To assist the relocation of TICHR, the State Government has allocated $65 million towards the facility. The Federal Government will also be contributing $40 million directly to TICHR to assist with the establishment of the new facility.

"The centralisation of these services will facilitate the delivery of a collaborative and streamlined 'bench top to bedside' advanced-level health care service to the children and adolescents of WA."

The new children's hospital will replace the Princess Margaret Hospital for Children in Subiaco, and is scheduled to be completed in late 2015.

http://www.wabusinessnews.com.au/en-story/1/89992/John-Holland-wins-1-2bn-QEII-contract?utm_source=DBA&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=article_click

today

http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/7898/fs2w.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/814/fs2w.jpg/)



http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/1227/fs3p.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/193/fs3p.jpg/)

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/7879/fs3ia.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/708/fs3ia.jpg/)

http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/4449/fs1p.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/593/fs1p.jpg/)

Its going up quite fast

I was pretty surprised too at how much of the traffic layout is finished around it. Its all sealed roads (including the entry road off south street), footpaths, pedestrian signals and functioning traffic lights (quite a few sets) left of those pics leading up to the entrance area. All thats needed is landscaping(some of it even seems done already) and i guess more bitumen put down for carparks.

what happens to pmh?

^^ crave thats Fiona Stanley, not the New Children's Hospital (NCH). The NCH project @ QEII hasn't started yet. I don't think they have decided what to do with PMH once NCH is up and running.

Good to see the main cladding going up, finally.

Im getting induced at fsh tommorow. Should be a good job.

Im getting induced at fsh tommorow. Should be a good job.

like an induced coma or something? wow fsh is even more further ahead than i imagined :nuts:

oh you mean inducted.

^^
I was thinking HEK666 was gonna give birth at a partially completed hospital :)

Being "induced" to a site is actually fairly common slang in the construction industry

Its also a good pun when the construction site is a hospital lol

:lol:

That hospital is going up crazy fast. I wish some of the other projects around Perth went up that quickly.

They must have a shitload of workers on the project?

That hospital is going up crazy fast. I wish some of the other projects around Perth went up that quickly.

They must have a shitload of workers on the project?

I think the number of cranes speaks words for how quickly they want the project to get done. Isn't Doric building it?

Edit: Drrrrr, I just looked at one of the pics and it had the massive Doric logo.....

Fiona Stanley is being built bu Brookfield Multiplex. Doric is doing the medical research centre at QEII.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1695/img0418ku.jpg

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/3665/img0429cy.jpg

Very nice ip.

The facade on this is really interesting. And the city looks so good in the first photo.

Dont know if this render has been posted before but I hadent seen it.

http://www.planning.wa.gov.au/dop_pub_images/murdoch1_fiona_hospital.jpg

http://www.planning.wa.gov.au/dop_pub_images/murdoch2_aerial.jpg

Being "induced" to a site is actually fairly common slang in the construction industry

You mean inducted. Never heard the term induced before.

I suppose some construction workers look they are almost full-term pregnant.

I suppose some construction workers look they are almost full-term pregnant.

:lol:

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1695/img0418ku.jpg

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/3665/img0429cy.jpg

Cracking shots. Hopefully there'll be some sort of shuttle bus between Murdoch station and the new hospital as it's going to be a major traffic generator and employment centre.

The design is quite similar to the new Children's Hospital here, by Bates Smart. Same architects?

http://www.batessmart.com.au/projects/health/the-new-royal-childrens-hospital-parkville

^Hassell did it, so nope
They seem to get everything

I wish we got more Bates Smart projects :( Too few. They are one of my favourite aus. architecture firms. They might have done the new research centre at QEII, or am I mistaken?

amazingggggg first shot! what a keeper

Not sure if this fly-over of the New Childrens Hospital has been posted before, I hadn't seen it. Not sure if it resembles the final design or not..

http://newchildrenshospitalproject.health.wa.gov.au/Libraries/Video/Animated_Flyover.sflb.ashx

Pretty sure that's the final design, they had renders of it awhile back
The front part of it reminded me of a playstation controller

FP peeps are likely to be getting a tour of FSH in October.

Fiona Stanley?

Dayyum. Missing out already :(

love the playstation symbols on the front :lol:

what are FP peeps? bit early for a tour tho.

^FuturePerth

Building B is just about toppped out, only a small pour to go on the helipad. Topout party planned to the 30th :cheers:

sounds like tha kind of party i'd go to... :)

Me too, especially with the stomach pumping facilities so close by.

I think they should stop wasting money on pet projects like this and put it towards hospitals. Oh wait.

Word has it Barnett will be doing a tour on Saturday of the mockup area and site. If your lucky the tour will be in the media with a first look inside part of the almost finished ICU unit.

I can't wait to get hit by a bus.

Fiona Stanley Hospital 'on time and on budget'


The WA Government has released a time-lapse series of stills depicting the gradual construction of Fiona Stanley Hospital to mark the completion of major construction works on the structure of the $2 billion project.

Treasurer Christian Porter this morning helped pour the last concrete section on the eighth floor of the Murdoch hospital, which still has to undergo major ceiling, wall and fit-out works.

He said the 783-bed facility would be finished on budget and was “highly confident” the intended 2014 completion date would be met.

“That great big BHP building that we see in town every day, drive past and everyone says ‘what a monster’ – that thing is 80,000sqm. We are part of a complex that is twice as big as that building,” he said.
“This is an absolutely massive construction, everything is going absolutely according to plan and what is going to be provided is going to be a fantastic facility for the people of WA.”

The timelapse the article mentioned:

http://www.fionastanley.health.wa.gov.au/about/SiteCam2-0911.wmv

obviously new here - a long time lurker! Here is an update.

From www.perthnow.com.au

Fiona Stanley hospital really taking shape

by: Russell Quinn

November 29, 2011 8:22AM
CONSTRUCTION of the State's biggest health infrastructure project, the $2 billion Fiona Stanley Hospital in Murdoch, is now more than 50 per cent complete.

Health Minister Kim Hames claims that since building started in September 2009, the project has progressed on time and on budget to open its doors in 2014.

“The Fiona Stanley Hospital project has achieved the 50 per cent mark for time and value,” Dr Hames said.

“The hospital’s eight buildings, which are all now under construction, cover a total floor area of 150,000sqm.

“The Education and Pathology buildings, including fit-out, are nearing completion and the 140-bed State rehabilitation service building is beginning to take shape, with the outer structure complete.”

The Fiona Stanley Hospital project aims to meet more key milestones in 2012, including the commissioning of the Central Plant and completion of the mental health unit, administration building and two four-level car parks.





The facades for both the main hospital building and State rehabilitation service will also be completed early in the New Year, ready for the fitting out stage.

Dr Hames said a self-guided tour map has been developed to assist viewers, identifying key building features of the hospital.

“With the road opening of Barry Marshall Parade in late September, local residents, community members and the general public will now be able to walk down the road and view the hospital’s construction site more closely,” he said.

Project team specialists will be on hand to provide first hand information on key aspects of development at and around the hospital, including updates on design and services, environmental and conservation initiatives, public transport and road networks.

An information event will be held Tuesday December 6, from 5pm to 7.30pm.

For details, or to learn more about the Fiona Stanley Hospital project, call 1800 659 475.

Edit: here is a link to all of the health infrastructure that the government will be undertaking over the next five years (sorry if someones already posted this) http://www.health.wa.gov.au/hospital_building_projects/index.cfm

Thanks for the update Dalek (Is that Dalek, as in Doctor Who??). I didn't realise the road was open, going to have to go for a closer look.

oh yes, I'm a huge fan of the show!

on time and on budget.

things we do not hear too much, i assume the contract wasnt awarded by labor numpties?

I know this is merely a rhetorical question, but how can one big mo fo of a project be on time and on budget, but State Theatre, Perth Arena etc blow right out?

I know this is merely a rhetorical question, but how can one big mo fo of a project be on time and on budget, but State Theatre, Perth Arena etc blow right out?

(partly) incompetence of a lefty govt handling $$ (yes im trolling too)

in the case of both the arena and theatre it ahas been said significant changes were made after the initial tender and in arena's case well after contract was awarded and any idiot will tell you that causes huge cost overruns in construction

both were badly executed with the arena of course being a prime example. i bet you the idiot who only decided later on we needed a carpark did not get fired even though he should have (or whoever ommitted it in the first place should have)

Also keep in mind OTOB is from the BUILDING perspective and not SERVICES. Let's not get too carried away that a public dept can deliver an entire package in a timely manner ;) 1 out of 2 is still a great achievement.

I'd love to be wrong though.

oh yes, I'm a huge fan of the show!

Huge win!

on time and on budget.

things we do not hear too much, i assume the contract wasnt awarded by labor numpties?

Didn't this start before the last election?

it did. it's a union site too. i believe they used a good model where Brookfield was brought in during the design stage so construction and design development were integrated.

@ dalek, i think my avatar speaks for itself :)

it did. it's a union site too. i believe they used a good model where Brookfield was brought in during the design stage so construction and design development were integrated.

It seems to make a lot more sense that way, but it would be a bit difficult in awarding a contact. You would have to put it out to tender in the early design stage, before you have an accurate costs and therefore who can provide to most competitive proposal?

Does any1 know when FS will open?

^^ 2014
Hospitals are really complex buildings...

An update on the Children's hospital:

Taken from : www.perthnow.com.au

Kings Park, river, city inspire $1.2 billiion children's hospital

PerthNow December 02, 2011 10:21AM

THE WA Government today unveiled the concept design of Western Australia's $1.2 billion new children's hospital, which will replace Princess Margaret Hospital for Children.

The design, which includes the external facade and layout of the building, was developed with input from various groups, including members of the community, youth and Aboriginal advisory committees and PMH staff, patients and their families.

Construction of the new hospital, which is being built on the Queen Elizabeth II Medical Centre site in Nedlands, will begin in January 2012 and is due to be completed by 2015.

Health Minister Kim Hames said designers took inspiration from Kings Park’s flora and fauna to determine their colour palette, ensuring the new children’s hospital complemented its natural surrounding landscape.

The design also took full advantage of the location, maximising views of Kings Park, the Swan River and the city skyline.


“Most inpatient rooms will have views of Kings Park, the Swan River and the cityscape,” Dr Hames said.

“More green space and natural light are key elements of the design, ensuring that the new hospital will create a healing environment for children, their families and staff.

“Leading national and international evidence-based design research has been incorporated into the hospital’s layout, including logical clinical adjacencies and integrating research and education.”

Treasurer Christian Porter said the designers had also been mindful of sustainability and the Perth climate with the inclusion of a double skin facade, one of the biggest in Australia, which would maximise views, increase patient comfort and aid in sustainable energy use.

“The facade uses a mechanism to filter the sun’s rays, helping cool the building - making it more comfortable for patients and visitors - and minimising energy costs,” Mr Porter said.

The project has now moved into schematic design which involves designing individual departments within the hospital. More detailed design of each room begins in 2012.

The new children’s hospital, which is an important part of the overall State Government capital works program, is on track to start construction in early 2012 and be completed in 2015.

Hospital Fact File
• New children’s hospital will replace PMH in Subiaco, to be built on the QE site, Nedlands
• John Holland Pty Ltd was awarded the ‘managing contractor’ stage one contract to design the new $1.2billion facility and carry out initial construction works
• Construction begins in early January 2012 and is due for completion in 2015
• Hospital name not yet decided, however it will not be Princess Margaret Hospital

What do you guys think the new hospital should be called? Does anyone know why the government has decided against Princess Margaret hospital?