View Full Version : Traveling to/through Germany - Reisen in Deutschland
Jai-C March 21st, 2005, 03:56 AM In this thread you can ask for the best places in Germany to visit, how to reach them (public trainsport, best airlines etc.) and what to do there :)
Everything about travelling to or through Germany can be discussed here as well.
Ekumenopolis March 29th, 2005, 10:37 PM Hello everyone!
Im from Spain, and planning a trip through Germany this summer. My girlfriend and me want to visit specially this 3 cities: Koln, Frankfurt am Main and Berlin. Our trip should be 8 or 9 days, arriving and leaving from Koln.
Can you tell me what are the "you-cant-miss" places in this cities? And how much time should we spend in each place? Is there any train pass for some days? That sort of information would be very interesting and i would apreciate it. Danke shon!!
il fenomeno March 29th, 2005, 11:35 PM in frankfurt dont miss to visit the observation deck of the main tower.
http://www.asp-architekten.de/home/images/mt_panorama_02.jpg
visit the nearby shopping street "zeil" and if theres still time take a trip the "palmengarten" thats a botanic garden. of course, if you are into skyscrapes, just walk around where the highrises are.
its no city for tourists though, so dont stay longer than 2 days.
my 2cents about your frankfurt stay
Ekumenopolis March 29th, 2005, 11:52 PM Molto obrigado!
More? :)
sebastian c March 30th, 2005, 12:18 AM Köln is also a place which might get boring after 2 days, better spend some more time in Berlin which I personnally find more fascinating.
What you "should" do: Of course visit the Cathedral (don´t forget the wonderful treasury and to climb the tower(s)!), enjoy an evening in (small) old town - you find many restaurants here -, use http://www.koelner-seilbahn.de/english/index.html to cross the rhine - and enjoy the wonderful parc on the other side.
Köln has also got some special museums, for example the chocolate museum, which are quite interesting. Also the aquarium is one of the nicest in Germany.
Boat tours on the rhine are of course possible, too.
You won´t find much interesting architecture or many spectacular highrises in Köln, maybe except http://www.mediapark.de/ .
Shopping is quite good in Köln, but I think you also have that in Madrid. ;)
Ekumenopolis March 30th, 2005, 12:41 AM Wow.. a good guide of Koln! (beyond the cathedral!)
Thanks, Sebastian!
More, more!! :D
LuckyLuke March 30th, 2005, 12:52 AM Hello
Take a look at the Berlin Tourist Info site http://www.btm.de/ It's also in Spanish :)
Aww there are so many things that are great! but you should go to the Potsdamer Platz with its Sony Center and the other futuristic buildings.
http://img46.exs.cx/img46/8169/potsdamerplatz7te.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img168.exs.cx/img168/8141/1618zx.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
Pariser Platz with the Brandenburger Gate and those great embassy buildings
http://img226.exs.cx/img226/2290/pariserplatz9kq.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://i141.exs.cx/img141/7226/bild113ug.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
If you would like to go shopping you might go to Galeries Lafayette or Quartier
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Castle Sanssouci and Charlottenburg
http://img116.exs.cx/img116/2606/sanssouci8zq.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img54.exs.cx/img54/5956/charlot1tt.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
The Reichstag
http://img195.exs.cx/img195/3401/reichstag4yd.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
The Gendarmenmarkt
http://img219.exs.cx/img219/1664/1293ld.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
and be sure to visit the Musemusinsel
http://img168.exs.cx/img168/1641/1475by.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img219.exs.cx/img219/3242/3460x2988gu.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
I hope I could help you a bit :)
Ekumenopolis March 30th, 2005, 01:11 AM Sure u did, mate!! What about the nightlife?
DiggerD21 March 30th, 2005, 02:38 AM Sure u did, mate!! What about the nightlife?
I recommend Hackescher Markt and Prenzlauer Berg. The "Kulturbrauerei" is probably a nice place for nightlife.
Are there any special reasons why to visit these three cities (for example distant relatives, friends)?
Ekumenopolis March 30th, 2005, 04:32 PM Not really, but arriving and landing from Koln is cheaper for me. I love skyscrapers so i wanna visit Frankfurt, and my favourite (by the moment) city in Germany is Berlin, so...
earthJoker March 30th, 2005, 06:20 PM Make shure you take the ICE from Köln to Frankfurt :)
Desven March 30th, 2005, 08:56 PM ^^but that's very expensive!!
Cologne(Köln) is great for shopping,especially for fashion!!and of course you should visit the cathedral and climb the tower!there are also nice bars and restaurants!
if you love skyscrapers,you will love Frankfurt,too!the observation deck of the Maintower is great,and it's not expensive!and you also should visit the older parts of Frankfurt which are really amazing!
il fenomeno March 30th, 2005, 09:05 PM yeah right. visit the "römerberg" and spent an evening in "alt-sachenhausen". pretty nice in summer
Mike March 31st, 2005, 12:40 PM Or if you dare, visit some of the clubs in Frankfurt: http://www.frankfurt-pur.de/purlocations.php
Ekumenopolis March 31st, 2005, 04:15 PM Wow, now i have a lot of info about things to see and do in my trip. I thank all of your for your advices. Danke danke danke shon! hahaha
BTW, one more question is about transportation. I guess the best way for moving is the train. Any week pass or similars?
Justme April 1st, 2005, 04:46 PM I think most people have answered this, although, if I were you, I'd make it Frankfurt, Hamburg, Berlin.
Köln is ok, but there really isn't a lot to see there.
The same for Frankfurt. There are no grand museums (certainly not compared to Madrid), and very little to offer tourists. Usually, most of the interesting things can be seen in half a day.
A walk along the river, up the Main tower (that is a must) and a walk along the shopping street. I don't recommend the Palmengarten. It's nice, but you got real palm trees in Spain and it's free to see - why pay to see them in Frankfurt?
The ICE is not too expensive if you book well ahead, and it certainly is the best way to get around. In fact, if you splurge a bit for 1st class (which is still affordable in my opinion) go for it. It takes 1 hour (approx) between Frankfurt and Koln, and probably about three hours then to Berlin. How else were you going to travel?
Now Berlin has loads to see. It is a fantastic city and you can easily spend a week there.
However, it is NOT a beautiful city. Don't expect lovely buildings like Madrid, it is quite run down in parts, and under construction in others, but it is so facinating.
Keep in mind that on Sunday's, plan trips to museums or parks, as there is little else to do in this country on that day.
As long as you don't spend too much time in Frankfurt or Köln, you'd have a great time.
What hotels were you planning in staying in?
il fenomeno April 1st, 2005, 07:38 PM go to alt-sachsenhausen, drink 10 liter 'stöffche' (cider) and take revenge for the likes of german tourists on spanish beaches every summer!
Ekumenopolis April 2nd, 2005, 04:19 PM LOL..
@Justme:
I must see the hotel offer, but i think it will be some cute hostels or cheap hotels or so.. i dont wanna stay in youth hostels with a lot of Inter-rail people. For moving arount, inside the city i think the best idea is subway, right? Yup, i wont see so much things as moving by bus, but i prefer subway. And, between the cities, train of course. How may i get ICE? Is it only for Europeans? (my girlfriend is Mexican)
LuckyLuke April 2nd, 2005, 05:21 PM LOL..
@Justme:
I must see the hotel offer, but i think it will be some cute hostels or cheap hotels or so.. i dont wanna stay in youth hostels with a lot of Inter-rail people. For moving arount, inside the city i think the best idea is subway, right? Yup, i wont see so much things as moving by bus, but i prefer subway. And, between the cities, train of course. How may i get ICE? Is it only for Europeans? (my girlfriend is Mexican)
what do you mean with "How may i get ICE? Is it only for Europeans? (my girlfriend is Mexican)"?
Ekumenopolis April 2nd, 2005, 08:11 PM I mean that i dont know what the hell is the ICE. And, if its a travel pass, there are some travel passes that are only for Europeans!
If its a train or so, then my question isnt valid, of course.
Ekumenopolis April 2nd, 2005, 08:35 PM Ok, i checked it, its a train. Sorry all!
Mike April 2nd, 2005, 08:36 PM It's a train and Mexicans are allowed to ride it.
Kampflamm April 2nd, 2005, 08:39 PM Germany has made some progress in these matters.
earthJoker April 3rd, 2005, 09:17 AM Now you speaking about travaling passes.
You might wanne check out euro-domino. You can get a ticket for several (4 or more in germany) indipendent days within a month. All trains (inclusive ICE without extra pay).
Here are the prices (from the swiss page, you might wanne check lokal railroad pages aswell)
Age
26+ http://mct.sbb.ch/mct/en/ed_adult.pdf
<26 http://mct.sbb.ch/mct/en/ed_youth.pdf
Just check DB for the prices of Germany
Edit: You have to confert the prizes as they are in Swiss Francs not €
Mike April 3rd, 2005, 12:15 PM Deutsche Bahn (German Railway)
http://www.bahn.de/-S:PtVORd:dxLOk9NNWuhNbdNNNWZM/p/view/international/englisch/international_guests.shtml
Ekumenopolis April 3rd, 2005, 07:10 PM Ok, thats all the info i needed (hey, fuck off with that mistake, i didnt know what was it!)
Daaanke shooon!
Justme April 4th, 2005, 11:00 AM Travelling by ICE is the best way to travel in Germany. The trains are good value if you book well in advance, and for land transport, obviously the fastest and most comfortable.
One tip, if you know the exact time you want to travel, reserve a seat (it's about €3 or close). It is well worth reserving a seat, as you may find that if the train is busy there may be no seats available as all are reserved, and the last thing you want to do is stand for the entire journey which could be hours - or keep changing seats as reserved people push you out.
You can make the reservations on the website (www.db.de) which is also in English, and I can't stress how important this is - most budget travellers think "ah, shit, why pay €3 more" but there is a time to save money, and a time to be sensible. You will thank yourself (and so will your girlfriend) when you have a seat and see cheapskate hippies with backpacks grumping and groaning as they have to stand or keep being pushed out of their seats. :lol:
earthJoker April 4th, 2005, 04:20 PM ^ I 100% agree with this. As I usually travel in Switzerland (where almost nobody reserves) I forgot to reserve the first time I went on a ICE, I was lucky to get all the time, but I had to switch several times.
wecky April 5th, 2005, 02:34 PM Going to visit Berlin this coming June .... been to Frankfurt last year.
Any suggestions of the best tourist spots to visit in Berlin?
Keane April 5th, 2005, 03:09 PM Siegessäule, Brandenburger Tor, Fernsehturm, Potsdamer Platz,
Europa Center, Reichstag, Kudamm, Tiergarten, Wannsee,
Unter den Linden, Friedrichstrasse, Gedarmenmarkt,
KaDeWe , Funkturm, etc.
Ich liebe Berlin! :)
Kampflamm April 5th, 2005, 03:10 PM Just make sure to be in a safe spot by 8pm.
LuckyLuke April 5th, 2005, 03:36 PM Just make sure to be in a safe spot by 8pm.
:poke: Kampflamm is always a bit negative... Just don't listen :cheers:
skender June 29th, 2006, 10:09 PM If anyone can help me i will be very thankful. I want to travel by bus from frankfurt to geneva or berne...do you know if there are buses that actually go there...or will i have to take a train??
Thanks a lot
good bye
R@ptor June 30th, 2006, 02:21 AM Take the train. There are ICE connections from Frankfurt to Basel and from there you can take the Swiss IC. It takes about 6 hours to get from Frankfurt to Geneva by rail.
DiggerD21 June 30th, 2006, 02:40 AM In general overland bus connections in Germany and to many destinations in neighbouring states are underdeveloped. And if there is a bus, it is often as expensive as the train (although the train is already fuckin expensive). The rail network is by far more developed (and afaik there is a stupid law which still prevents competition for the rail network from bus companies).
Das Tier June 30th, 2006, 03:01 AM Take the train it`s much more faster and by far more comfortable, imo going by bus really sucks.
@ Digger21
I wouldn`t say that, I don`t know how the situation is in HH, but from Berlin there are dozens of bus connections to nearly every place in europe and it´s often less than half the price of the train.
Das Tier June 30th, 2006, 05:12 AM You can fly with Lufthansa for about 110 €, when you`ve luck, you`ve to check your needed dates: http://www.lufthansa.com/online/portal/lh/de/nonav/notaxonomy?l=en&nodeid=1618907(link to the englih site with the european special offers).
The highspeedtrain would take nearly 6 hours and costs oneway about the same price like the two-way flight.
I didn`t find any bus connections, but to be honest I only took a short look.
Molinari June 30th, 2006, 08:33 AM Yep, a flight often is the cheapest option.
DiggerD21 July 2nd, 2006, 03:03 AM @ Digger21
I wouldn`t say that, I don`t know how the situation is in HH, but from Berlin there are dozens of bus connections to nearly every place in europe and it´s often less than half the price of the train.
Die Busverbindungen aus Hamburg sind eher nur zu gebrauchen, wenn man nach Osteuropa oder das dänische Festland will. Nach Südeuropa? Vergiss es, mindestens genauso teuer wie ein günstiger Flug + lange Reisezeit. Es gibt hier lediglich zwei Buslinien, die zu was zu gebrauchen sind: Der Bus nach Berlin (i.d.R. günstiger als die Bahn) und der "9 Euro"-Nachtbus über Flughafen Hannover, Frankfurt, Flughafen Frankfurt nach Heidelberg (Billigfliegerprinzip: wer zuerst kommt, kriegt den besten Tarif: 9 Euro pro Fahrt).
Kazurro March 1st, 2008, 12:30 PM Ich möchte Deustchland gegangen mit dem Interrail das Sömmer
Wir alle Berlin gegangen, aber wir haben Zeit fur andere Stadts. Welche stadts empfehlen ihr? Hamburg? München?
Wir haben Zehn tags, und wir haben eine Wochen fur sehen andere Stadts nicht Berlin.
Wir nicht sprechen Deustch sehr gut, Leute verstehen du in Englisch da?
C-Beam March 1st, 2008, 01:02 PM You could also visit also some smaller places like i.e. Heidelberg.
schmidt March 1st, 2008, 01:07 PM Rothenburg ob der Tauber in the South seems to be a very beautiful place too. My grandmother showed me some pics of the Mosel valley, there are some very beautiful cities over there as well. But anyway, I haven't been there yet so I can't still recommend much. :cool:
Deadeye Reloaded March 1st, 2008, 01:09 PM Wir nicht sprechen Deustch sehr gut, Leute verstehen du in Englisch da?
Ah wo, ist doch alles klar was Du geschrieben hast. :)
Du möchtest im nächsten Sommer mit Deinen Leuten nach Berlin. Ihr habt insgesamt zehn Tage Zeit wobei Ihr eine Woche nutzen wollt, um neben der Boom-Hauptstadt andere Städte zu besuchen. Und jetzt möchtest Du ein paar Empfehlungen von uns.
Also Hamburg sollte man schon gesehen haben. Mit dem ICE kommt man dort sehr schnell und bequem hin.
En Espanol: :)
http://www.bahn.de/international/view/es/index.shtml
Kazurro March 1st, 2008, 02:17 PM Ah wo, ist doch alles klar was Du geschrieben hast. :)
Du möchtest im nächsten Sommer mit Deinen Leuten nach Berlin. Ihr habt insgesamt zehn Tage Zeit wobei Ihr eine Woche nutzen wollt, um neben der Boom-Hauptstadt andere Städte zu besuchen. Und jetzt möchtest Du ein paar Empfehlungen von uns.
Also Hamburg sollte man schon gesehen haben. Mit dem ICE kommt man dort sehr schnell und bequem hin.
En Espanol: :)
http://www.bahn.de/international/view/es/index.shtml
Danke Schmidt. I habe photos gesehen am Heidelberg in das forum und er ist cool. :banana:
Und Kiel? A freunde von mich ist gehen da innerhalb Zehn tag für sehen Kiel-Ademar EHF Champions League, und Sie nicht können was sehen (what to see).
Und Deadaye ich nicht spreche gut Deustch. Ich habe Deustch gestudieren sein Oktober hier in Spanien da ich möchte in Deustchland gehen am 2009 fur studieren da :)
Was heiße "insgesamt" und "wobei Ihr eine Woche nutzen wollt" in Englisch?
Und "Deinen Leuten"?
Danke fur die link in Spanisch ;)
goschio March 1st, 2008, 02:25 PM If you are in Kiel from the 21-29. June, you can visit the Kieler Woche. Its a giant sialing contest with 3 million visitors. Very nice and interesting. Big party!
http://www.welt.de/multimedia/archive/00280/kieler_woche_zuscha_280774g.jpg
erbse March 1st, 2008, 02:38 PM You're welcome Kazurro. Do you go to Deutschland with some buddies? Then I'd expect you're mainly searching for good places to party eh :cheers1:
Well, I don't have much time for searching around now, maybe you start with touristic information pages like this (http://deutschland.de/home.php?lang=4&) or this one (http://www.germany-tourism.de/).
Regarding party: Try a German one (better advices I'd presume) just like party.de (http://www.party.de/).
Perhaps later I'm going to give you some further details. Don't run too far away ;)
TEKKEN March 1st, 2008, 07:53 PM Danke Schmidt. I habe photos gesehen am Heidelberg in das forum und er ist cool. :banana:
HOLA AMIGO ;)
die Heidelberg fotos sind von mir.Unbedingt sehen.Einer der besten Städte in Deutschland.Wenn du wollen studieren in Deutschland....dann ich dir empfehlen Heidelberg,eine Studenten- und Touristenstadt.
Ludis_Multi March 1st, 2008, 08:35 PM I really recommend you first visit Hamburg, which is a must-see and than proceed to south-germany.
Heidelberg is a good choice with beautiful old german architecture, you should also see Munich which is like Hamburg one of the most beautiful large cities in europe but looks totally different.
On your way to the south you can stop in Frankfurt for all the skyscrapers, of course. If you like and think you have enough time, the west is also interesting. Especially Köln (cologne) and Düsseldorf or any random city in the Ruhr-area (none of them is especially interesting compared to the others), but in my oppinion those are just afternoon-trips for a few hours. In other cities I mentioned there's more than enough to see if you'd stay there for a few days.
Hope you guys have fun in ze homeland of ze Hoff
P.S. Here (http://www.*****************/pc/pc/channel/3/cat/27) is a site with thousands of pics. You can take a look which cities you like.
Especially interesting are 'Hamburg', 'Bayern', 'Baden-Württemberg'. (Frankfurt would be in the state 'Hessen', but I guess you know how it looks like :) and Köln, Düsseldorf and the ruhr-area are in 'Nordrhein-Westfalen'.)
[EDIT]
Dresden in 'Sachsen' is also worth a visit, maybe evern more than those cities I mentioned in the West. That's why you should look for pics at the page I posted, to find your priorities ;)
BenL May 27th, 2008, 12:55 PM Apologies if this is the wrong forum and for not being able to speak German.
I'm planning a cities trip with some friends to central Europe this summer. We were planning to spend 2 days in Hamburg, 5 days in Berlin, 3 days in Vienna (or possibly Prague) and 3 days in Budapest. Berlin is one of my favourite cities in Europe and I want to spend as much time there as possible. I was particuarly interested in seeing the Hafencity development in Hamburg - given I imagine not much of it has been completed yet, could Hamburg be seen as a day trip on the ICE from Berlin? Also, if you had any suggestions of possible day trips from Berlin as someone very interested in modernist architecture, I'd be grateful.
Thanks.
Slartibartfas May 31st, 2008, 03:03 PM In case you are going to Vienna, you might be interested in those modern developments:
The Gasometer (4 huge old brick gas tanks transformed into a mixed use building with residentials, officies, students homes and small shopping center)
Museumsquartier (baroque former stables transormed into a Museum quarter with two modern buildings added to then ensemble)
I personally also like the new main library (Haupbücherei) at teh U6 subway station "Burggasse". Very good modern architecture in my opinion and you have a great view onto the small but fine highrise cluster of the Wienerberg in the distance.
The main highrise cluster is the Donaucity next to the UN headquarters. If you are into that you should head to it as well, even though I think its not that great as its too grey and cold sort of modern architecture for my taste.
If you like Hundertwasser (if you know Gaudi, he was a bit like him) have a look at the Hundertwasserhaus and the waste incinerator Spittelau (U6 station "Spittelau")
Of course, don't miss the Haashaus in the very center right next to the Stephans Cathedral either.
BenL May 31st, 2008, 08:46 PM Thanks. I'm afraid, in the end we decided to go for Prague instead of Vienna. I'm sure I'll go there in the near future, certainly the gasometers look stunning and I really like the UN area - reminds me of the Toronto City Hall.
I wonder if anyone could advise on whether Dresden or Lepzig is better for half a day en route to Prague? Thanks.
dklicious. June 1st, 2008, 12:14 PM I'd say go for Dresden. They're definitely both nice cities, but in the end I suppose Dresden has more sights, yet I'd prefer to live in Leipzig. Since you're going to spend half a day there, Dresden is quite perfect. It has a picturesque Old Town and some interesting places of interest.
Shame you won't see southern/western Germany. It offers a bunch of great cities, for instance Heidelberg, Munich, Frankfurt, Regensburg etc.
Have fun and don't hesitate to ask just in case you have more questions or something appears unclear to you. :)
Some impressions from Dresden:
http://img.******************/photos/6992045.jpg
http://img.******************/photos/6948731.jpg
http://img.******************/photos/6691443.jpg
M.Schwerdtner June 1st, 2008, 01:44 PM I wonder if anyone could advise on whether Dresden or Lepzig is better for half a day en route to Prague? Thanks.
Dresden is much more interesting as Leipzig. on the way from prague u can ride with the bus or train cross the "elbsandsteingebirge", a wonderfull landscape in south of Dresden.
And yes its possible to see Hamburg on a day trip from Berlin by ICE. If u start early and ride back Berlin in the evening.
Njoy ur trip ...
BenL June 1st, 2008, 10:57 PM Thanks a lot for your help. I have visited Frankfurt and I'd love to see more of Germany. To be honest, I'd be very happy just to spend the two weeks in Berlin though. I think we're going to stick with the two nights in Hamburg. I've spoken to a few people who've stayed there and it sounds brilliant.
Could you recommend any interesting walking tours in Berlin? Thanks!
knutus June 2nd, 2008, 09:28 PM Hi!
If you are a few days in Berlin, you have to visit Potsdam. There is not a lot of modern architecture, but the palaces and gardens of Sanssouci, Charlottenhof and Babelsberg are stunning. The Dutch Quarter is really neat with a lot of shops and cafes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potsdam#Sights_in_Potsdam
In Berlin, you have to visit "Prenzlauer Berg" around Kollwitzplatz and Schönhauser Allee and Kastanienallee.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenzlauer_Berg
In Mitte Hackescher Markt and Oranienburger Strasse (with the New Synagogue), Rosenthaler Strasse and Torstrasse is good to walk.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oranienburger_Strasse
If you are interested in history, go to Checkpoint Charlie , Wilhelmstrasse and over Potsdamer Platz to the Brandenburg Gate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checkpoint_Charlie
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelmstrasse
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potsdamer_Platz
I hope, you enjoy your stay. If you have more questions, feel free to ask.
erbse September 7th, 2008, 05:49 PM Dürfte noch aktuell sein, war ja erst auf der letzten Seite.
My advice: Go East, Go Neubrandenburg! (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=415558)
stefanguti September 8th, 2008, 08:27 PM Yes, then go SSE: Vienna Calling
skysdalimit November 17th, 2008, 10:28 PM Hey guys,
Next semester (January-June) I will be studying abroad in Maastricht, the Netherlands. Since Maastricht is so close to Germany, I know I'll be making several trips to the fatherland over the course of the semester. If you were an American college student with relatively limited time, what would be your top 3 separate trips you would take or places you would want to see? My travels will occur on 3 different weekends (Friday-Sunday). I hear I can either take the train from Maastricht, take a bus to Aachen from Maastricht and then hop on a train in Aachen (probably the cheapest), or take a flight from Brussels (although Brussels will be the hardest to reach). I appreciate all the help! :cheers:
- Geiger
PS: Sorry I don't know German, but I hope to learn some while I'm in Europe!
derUlukai November 17th, 2008, 10:44 PM if u are a skyscraperfan(as i assume) frankfurt is a must-see. if u stay there for more then a day and u also have a taste for historical buildings u could visit rothenburg ob der tauber, or marburg/lahn (maybe mainz and also fulda) which are in one-day-visit range.
also i would suggest to visit berlin, since its the capital and really big and got lots of interesting sites for tourists to see(reichstag, brandenburger tor,..)
third trip would be munich(old houses, rich city) or hamburg (big harbour, st pauli kiez "reeperbahn")
il fenomeno November 17th, 2008, 10:47 PM darmstadt mathildenhöhe. insider hint.
erbse November 17th, 2008, 10:52 PM Hey dude :)
Take a ride and head for Usedom Island & Neubrandenburg ;)
Seriously, I'd suggest you to visit the Rhine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhine)-Moselle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moselle_(river)) area which is nearby. Then have some stopovers at Cochem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cochem), Kaub (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaub), Bernkastel-Kues (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernkastel-Kues), Loreley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loreley) valley, Trier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trier) and pick some castles & neat river towns to visit - there really are heaps of those.
The other guys may submit some further proposals :) Hope I could help so far.
Tannenschnaps November 17th, 2008, 11:12 PM * Berlin (!)
* Heidelberg
* ?
erbse November 17th, 2008, 11:18 PM * Neubrandenburg!
ØlandDK November 17th, 2008, 11:19 PM Dresden
Berlin
München
smaller:
Heidelberg
Freiburg
Lübeck
(From the germans cities I've visited)
sämelihülz November 17th, 2008, 11:34 PM don't miss Berlin Neu-Köln ;)
skysdalimit November 18th, 2008, 01:33 AM Thanks guys! Keep in mind that I won't have a car, so all traveling will occur by either train, bus, or plane. If I wanted to see some of the smaller towns, would I have to sign up for tours or could I reach the smaller towns by train/bus?
thun November 18th, 2008, 01:34 AM As said: Munich, the Rhine Valley, Hamburg, Berlin, Hamburg, Dresden. As you're American you probably have to see Heidelberg and Neuschwanstein (latter one is a day trip from Munich).
If you want to hang around at a Euro-styled beach for some days head for the Baltic Sea (Mecklenburg-Vorpommern is better than Schleswig-Holstein IMO).
Cologne is a daytrip from Maastricht.
Studying currently in Spain I should give you the tip to choose some spots and visit them properly instead of hopping to the next one after some few hours (only Asian and American tourists do that). Make a plan what you really want to see. Travel around as much as possible, but you will also need some weekends to party at Maastricht. Thats for sure. ;)
Best would be to stay one or even two months longer (after the lectures end) and travel around a bit.
And anyhow, it's going to be a great experience. Every American/Australian/whatever I've met sais that living in Europe is completely different from coming only for holidays (obviously)...
Zoologic November 18th, 2008, 02:13 AM Every American/Australian/whatever I've met sais that living in Europe is completely different from coming only for holidays (obviously)...
Yeah I would never get used to your thin toilet paper nor the slow beer service.
The barkeep try and save every drop and as the beer sits under the tap, the foam slooooowly settling down, it gets warm by the time he brings it to me and saves a measly 20 cents.
That is exceedingly annoying.
Bahnsteig4 November 18th, 2008, 02:31 AM Berlin
Munich/Upper Bavarian Alps (incl. Zugspitze)
Leipzig or Dresden - that's about as much GDR as an American probably can bear. ;)
Hard to post the "top 3" - Hamburg is very high on that list for me, too.
Zoologic November 18th, 2008, 05:27 AM Berlin
Munich/Upper Bavarian Alps (incl. Zugspitze)
Leipzig or Dresden - that's about as much GDR as an American probably can bear. ;)
Hard to post the "top 3" - Hamburg is very high on that list for me, too.
NIIIIICE!!!!!!!
I like that Hamburg is up there on the list.
4 days.
Actually you people should question my connection to German cities.
Seattle- Hamburg- Istanbul?
And back?
Think what I really do for a living!
ha ha ha!
skysdalimit November 18th, 2008, 05:53 AM Ok, so I am seeing alot of Berlins and Munichs up here...do you all think 3 days in each place is enough time? What are some of the attractions in each place?
Also, do you think I could visit Frankfurt and Cologne on the same 3-day trip if I'm coming from Maastricht?
goschio November 18th, 2008, 06:08 AM One day for Frankfurt and Cologne is enough. In Cologne you would visit the central cathedral and in Frankfurt you can look the the skyscrapers and walk along the river. Keep in mind, Frankfurt is not a tourist city. Mostly business travel.
You could visit Cologne in the morning and Frankfurt in the afternoon. The train from Cologne to Frankfurt takes about one hour. From Frankfurt you have rail connections to almost everywhere. Its the busiest train station in Germany.
skysdalimit November 18th, 2008, 07:00 AM What is there to see/do in Hamburg, Berlin, and Munich?
Bahnsteig4 November 18th, 2008, 11:27 AM What is there to see/do in Hamburg, Berlin, and Munich?
Always a good starting point:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamburg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich
;)
ØlandDK November 18th, 2008, 12:58 PM IMO Hamburg isn't as interesting as some of the other cities mentioned here. Frankfurt is also pretty boring (besides the few scrapers of course).
erbse November 18th, 2008, 02:57 PM Yeah I would never get used to your thin toilet paper nor the slow beer service.
It's the Americans who have thin toilet paper. But not only in public toilets - in private ones as well. It's all about the technique, I guess - we fold it, you rumple it ;)
The barkeep try and save every drop and as the beer sits under the tap, the foam slooooowly settling down, it gets warm by the time he brings it to me and saves a measly 20 cents.
That is exceedingly annoying.
You've mentioned that before. I never experienced anything like that in Germany. You must have been to the cheesiest takeaway huts around.
erbse November 18th, 2008, 02:59 PM IMO Hamburg isn't as interesting as some of the other cities mentioned here.
But it has the Kiez.
goschio November 18th, 2008, 05:23 PM IMO Hamburg isn't as interesting as some of the other cities mentioned here. Frankfurt is also pretty boring (besides the few scrapers of course).
Really depends what you are interested in. I for example find Hamburg more interesting than Munich.
- harbor (boat tour)
- Alster canals (boat tour)
- best shopping in Germany
- Reeperbahn (largest red light district in Germany)
- most beautiful city in Germany (IMO)
For a tourist, I would say Berlin is the most interesting city.
Kame November 18th, 2008, 08:08 PM ^^ Agreed!
My list:
Berlin (must-see for a tourist!)
Hamburg / Munich (depends on your taste.)
Moselle or Rhine Valley (sooo beautiful and German!)
Edit: Do you prefer beer or wine?
il fenomeno November 18th, 2008, 08:14 PM you dont really wanna send him on 6 hours boat trip with nothing but retirees.
il fenomeno November 18th, 2008, 08:16 PM you suggest lübeck, freiburg & heidelberg are more interesting than hamburg? were you stoned on your trips?
Kame November 18th, 2008, 08:28 PM 6 hours? What kind of boat tour is that? The very enormous Hafenrundfahrt with a trip to Brunsbüttel?
erbse November 18th, 2008, 08:40 PM He's talking about the Rhine-Moselle tour I guess. Well, it depends on sky's taste - if he's searching for wonderful landscapes, neat towns and magnificent castles he's on the right track with that one.
If he prefers sightseeing & clubbing/whatever in cities though, he should pick Berlin, Hamburg and/or Munich first. As further choices, I'd suggest Dresden (+ Elbe valley with Meißen and Sächsische Schweiz), Potsdam (together with Berlin), Stralsund, Schwerin, Lübeck, Heidelberg, Freiburg and (if he wants some awesome German kitsch) Rothenburg o.d. Tauber
Sky - if you want to see some great European beaches, go to the islands of Rügen and Usedom (insiders' tip!).
ØlandDK November 18th, 2008, 11:40 PM you suggest lübeck, freiburg & heidelberg are more interesting than hamburg? were you stoned on your trips?
I never said that. I made a list about larger and smaller cities. HH wasn't good enough for my top 3 in the larger cities and obviously to big for the small city list. Which part didn't you understand - I can translate it for you if you want to.
il fenomeno November 19th, 2008, 12:34 PM i did not understand the list with the larger and smaller cities. can you visit 3 smaller cities (across the country) instead of a large one in the same time?
ØlandDK November 19th, 2008, 06:12 PM yes. why should that be a problem?
ØlandDK November 19th, 2008, 06:54 PM ah ok know I know what you mean. No of course you can't but you can visit 3 small instead of 3 big or 2 big and one small etc.
skysdalimit November 20th, 2008, 05:05 AM Thanks guys I really appreciate it.
1. So here's what I'm seeing so far on Hamburg...it sounds better than I thought! What would be the best time between January and June to visit?
http://www.hamburg-tourism.de/en/sightseeing/best-of-hamburg/
2. I really want to visit Munich too, with it's location near the mountains. It would be sweet to see Neuschwanstein. It's basically the perfect fairy tale castle. How far is it from Munich? Could I take a tour from Munich to see the castle area?
Berlin of course is a must-see.
As everyone mentioned, Frankfurt has very little in it, so maybe I will spend less than a day there on the way to Munich or Berlin.
3. I will certainly have to stop off in Cologne. How long do you think I would need to see all the major sites in Cologne?
4. I know many people mentioned Heidelburg and some of the smaller towns...which of the small towns would be the best to see?
5. About the beaches you mentioned: are they the topless kind?
Thanks again for all the help guys!
thun November 20th, 2008, 09:44 AM Munich - Füssen is two hours by train, from there you have to catch a bus or taxi for the last 5km. Easily possible in one day. If you go in winter don't forget warm clothes (snow...), if you go in summer you can hang around the lakes around for one or two hours. Hiking boots give you access to the Pöllat gorge, the best way up to the castle and without the herds of tourists. The second castle (Hohenschwangau) is woth a visit as well. Don't miss Marienbrücke for the best photo spot. And bring your own food, the area of Hohenschwangau is probably Germanys only real tourist trap.
I would go to Munich without stopping in Frankfurt for long, you loose too much time and there's plenty of things to see in Munich.
Cologne is a day tip, I would do that spontaneously if you wake up after a long night and don't want to go to uni (you'll experience these days, believe me). One day should be enough.
Heidelberg and Frankfurt would be possible on the same weekend. If so, don't catch the high speed trains from Cologne but use a "normal" train which goes through the Rhine valley (whine, castles, etc.) to frankfurt. Don't miss to stop at at least one village (plan a whole day for the Rhine Valley, e. g. you could stay overnight in Frankfurt and go to Heidelberg the next day).
The website of Deutsche Bahn (www.bahn.de) offers online schedules, so you can easily check the travel time and fares there. Should be in English as well.
Golden Age November 20th, 2008, 11:24 PM 1. So here's what I'm seeing so far on Hamburg...it sounds better than I thought! What would be the best time between January and June to visit?
It gets nice in May. Then one can stroll along the Landungsbrücken area and also go on boat trips along the Alster. A trip to nearby UNESCO world heritage town Lübeck may also be of interest.
2. I really want to visit Munich too, with it's location near the mountains. It would be sweet to see Neuschwanstein. It's basically the perfect fairy tale castle. How far is it from Munich? Could I take a tour from Munich to see the castle area?
Neuschwanstein is fun, but it's a bit out of the way. Garmisch-Partenkirchen, Germany's most well-known ski resort town with the Zugspitze mountain is also worth a trip (only 45 mins from Munich). Also, the Starnberger See or the Chiemsee lakes are fantastic places in the summer.
As everyone mentioned, Frankfurt has very little in it, so maybe I will spend less than a day there on the way to Munich or Berlin.
Frankfurt's city center is a bit dull, but the museums along the Main, the view from the Main Tower observation deck or the apple wine gardens in Sachsenhausen and Bornheim make it an appealing place nonetheless. Spending a day will not get boring.
3. I will certainly have to stop off in Cologne. How long do you think I would need to see all the major sites in Cologne?
Cologne is not that great a city. The cathedral is a must-see, but the city center is grey and forgettable. Instead go spend the rest of the day in the student town of Bonn which is only 30 minutes away. It is a very green city, full of cafes, historic neighborhoods and great walks along the Rhine river.
4. I know many people mentioned Heidelburg and some of the smaller towns...which of the small towns would be the best to see?
Heidelberg is the biggest and most well-known student town. It's a bit too touristy for many, but the historic city center is an eye pleaser. Other small towns that are nice would be Regensburg or Bamberg (in Bavaria) with its beautiful old towns; Baden-Baden in the Black Forest (beautiful spa city) and Wiesbaden near Frankfurt (looks like a small version of Paris).
5. About the beaches you mentioned: are they the topless kind?
Look for the sign "FKK" and you won't be disappointed.
Bahnsteig4 November 20th, 2008, 11:30 PM I remember spending a day in Hamburg in August 2007 and thinking: "Must be a great place in summer." ;)
Patrick November 21st, 2008, 12:05 AM Look for the sign "FKK" and you won't be disappointed.
no granny alert? ;)
Bahnsteig4 November 21st, 2008, 12:37 AM ^^ Always, somehow. Hot chicks are much less inclined to undress than old, fat cows. At least here in Vienna. Human rights violations?
erbse November 21st, 2008, 12:52 AM No. Not on the Island of Usedom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usedom) at least, I assure you ;)
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erbse November 21st, 2008, 01:01 AM Für's Forum bin ich mir für nichts zu schade.
Bahnsteig4 November 21st, 2008, 01:02 AM Ahhh...they're so average. ;)
ØlandDK November 21st, 2008, 01:04 AM Look for the sign "FKK" and you won't be disappointed.
Maybe it was ment like he was afraid of seeing a german woman topless? :dunno:
erbse November 21st, 2008, 01:05 AM Ahhh...they're so average. ;)That's the point. Even average looks like first class compared to the rest of Germanic Europe over here.
Bahnsteig4 November 21st, 2008, 01:56 AM Usedom, here I come!
ecotecture November 21st, 2008, 05:05 AM 1. Berlin
2. Hamburg
3. Constance (Lake Constance)
wonwiin November 21st, 2008, 02:46 PM Do not forget to visit Aachen. But you will go there propably at least once to shop when the shops are closed in Maastricht ;).
It may not be the most beautiful city in Germany but it has the Aachener Dom, Germany's first world heritage site. Also interesting is the modern art museum in an old umbrella factory if you are into modern art.
And the best thing about Aachen is the trainstation: 1h to Cologne, 1,5h to Brussels and 3h to Paris.
Also if you want to sleep in a real castle: Bacharach youth hostel with a great view over the river Rhine.
There are some great youth hostels around Germany, cheap, clean and you meet people from everywhere.
And Maastricht is a great city to study.
sämelihülz November 23rd, 2008, 10:48 AM Berlin is so overrated! It's a poor city, with a lot of workless people and they have a lot of Sozialschmarotzer. Visit Munich, Nürnberg, Heidelberg, maybe the Ruhrpott, and the Southwestern Germany!
Bahnsteig4 November 23rd, 2008, 11:37 AM Would you honestly prefer Gelsenkirchen or Wanne-Eickel over Berlin???
Quite frankly, tourists don't care about homeless people - why on earth would they go to Rio or Cape Town?
skysdalimit November 25th, 2008, 06:33 AM Are there any World War II historical sites in Nurnberg? I know the trials took place there, but don't know if there are any museums or such.
I'd also love to make it to Austria (Vienna and maybe Innsbruck)...would the best route be through Munich?
PS: Yes, hopefully I won't run into a granny alerty!
thun November 25th, 2008, 09:35 AM Nuremberg has to offer some beautiful medieval buildings (in that era it was one of Europes most important cities), although most of it got destroyed by allied bombings. The most important World War sight is the party rally areal It was never completed, so it's basically "only" one open arena (Zepellinfeld) which is used for motor acing once a year, an huge road for parades and a huge building which now offers a small documentation centre. The constuction site of the large stadium (400k) is now only a lake... IMO that alone is not worth the trip, there's plenty of stuff to see in Munich and Berlin as well (specialised guided tours).
I doubt that Innsbruck alone is worth the trip. Another option (easily one weekend) would be to go to Salzburg (tourist trap but beautiful) combined with the Bavarian sites of Berchtesgaden (Königssee, Europes most beautiful lake, Obersalzberg, Hitlers summer residence (only some ruins) and Chiemsee (the Herrenchiemsee island has a Mini-Versailles...) (every site one day, perfect in summer).
Vienna is definitely worth the trip. If you want to go by train the best option is the ICE that comes from Frankfurt (and I think also Cologne) and goes through Regensburg - Passau. For Innsbruck and Salzburg you have to go via Munich.
You should consider using overnight trains especially for Vienna (it is a long trip and it gives you lots of well needed extra time in the city), but I don't know about the routes and connections. The Deutsche Bahn website will provide it for you.
ØlandDK November 25th, 2008, 01:11 PM I was told that Innsbruck is more charming thatn Salzburg. I've never been to any of the places myself though.
michaelII November 25th, 2008, 01:49 PM you could also go from berlin over dresden and prague to vienna and bratislava.
Bahnsteig4 November 25th, 2008, 05:56 PM Innsbruck is nicer than Salzburg, that's a given.
Energy2003 November 25th, 2008, 06:07 PM ^^ boys and girls ...
Zitat:
"My travels will occur on 3 different weekends (Friday-Sunday)"
Kampflamm November 25th, 2008, 06:21 PM Salzburg is totally overrated. Go to Graz instead, nicest big little city in Austria.
railway stick November 25th, 2008, 06:24 PM Ik besuche gern und oft Deutschland. Am liebsten bin ich in Bremen, dann folgen Oldenburg und Münster. Aber Leer/Ostfriesland gefällt uns auch, das reicht zum Einkaufen...
erbse November 25th, 2008, 06:29 PM ^ Warst du schon in Göttingen? Stade? Hamburg? Lübeck? Lüneburg? Very schön dort überall :)
skysdalimit November 27th, 2008, 03:47 AM I suppose this is a vague map of my proposed German travels (and beyond in some cases). Break each route into a trip and let me know if you think this could work on 3 separate 3-4 day trips. Thanks guys and I appreciate the help.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/werd2000Fo/Trips/GermanyMap.jpg
KoolKeatz November 27th, 2008, 07:30 AM Visting Hamburg & Copenhagen or Munich & Vienna on 3 or 4 days is a bit... japanese (or american ;)). Take your time.
Bahnsteig4 November 27th, 2008, 08:57 AM It's not a bad plan if you don't have much time. I've got in front of me an American travel catalogue taking you from London to Rome in seven days, visiting Paris (half a day!), Amsterdam, Zurich, Innsbruck, etc. Even Tuscany! Now that's incredible. But three days for Hamburg and Copenhagen or Munich and Vienna definitely makes for a good first impression.
il fenomeno November 27th, 2008, 09:07 AM travelling is all about bragging anyway, like i was there and there and there. nobody asks you how long you were there.
thun November 27th, 2008, 09:58 AM Definitely NO. Europe is so diverse that it is just ridiculous to stay in a city like Hamburg (we're not even talking about London, Berlin or Paris!) for just one day! Munich in lots of things is completely differend from Berlin (and they're even in the same country). Seems to be incredible for Non-Europeans but they normally quickly find out.
The Americans I know really seem to have the maxime to jump from place to place as soon as possible (which makes me assume that there's basically no much difference between American cities). My advice always is to take your time, stay for some days in every city and try to understand a bit the cities caracters. That makes a really good trip and afterwards you maybe can't say that you've been everywhere but you know every place you've seen much better than most of your fellows.
Anyway, skysdalimit: Koolkeatz is right, take your time. The several trips are in general quite ok for me.
Are you planning to go around every weekend? As I said, I wouldn't recommend it, you'll definitely want to stay in Maastricht for some weekends, too (especially in the first weeks to make friends), so take your time. If you don't see everything, it really doesn't hurt, you can come back some day. Believe me, I'm currently studying in Spain and I haven't been on any long trip so far at all (but will go to Madrid and Portugal soon).
So you should either decide which of the trips are most important for you (and see right in Europe, for which ones you find time) or consider to stay at least one month longer after the exams and do an Eurail trip or something like that (again, with time).
Some friends of mine will jump around Europe in two weeks by Ryanair (going to Italy, Ireland, Scotland, France and Germany) which I would never consider as it is only stress and you don't have enough time anywhere.
Bahnsteig4 November 27th, 2008, 04:32 PM Mmh...perhaps I'm a little condescending here, but...do Americans even notice the differences between Munich and Hamburg, Prague and Vienna? We are conditioned to our own city's identity but can hardly tell one American city from another. Why should it be different the other way round?
thun November 27th, 2008, 05:19 PM because there are more differences I suppose (just look at the architecture, the atmosphere, etc.). Of course you can't tell if you stay everywhere only half a day, I couldn't for America either. :)
wonwiin November 27th, 2008, 05:24 PM But New York, Washington D.C., Las Vegas or L.A. are totally different from each other for example and you see the difference ;).
Bahnsteig4 November 27th, 2008, 05:32 PM NYC, W.D.C. and L.A. aren't comparable - granted. ;)
Mercedes S600 November 27th, 2008, 05:54 PM I think thun was talking about those "Just CBD + suburbs"-like urban centers.
thun November 27th, 2008, 07:34 PM ^^
Ecactly. I wouldn't be able to see any large difference e. g. between Dallas, Detroit or Indianapolis (and most other American cities).
Cities like San Francisco, NY, Washington, SF, LA, LV or Miami are exceptions, of course.
wonwiin November 27th, 2008, 07:55 PM To get a feeling for the difference of the german regions it may be better to visit small towns like Rothenburg, Garmisch-Partenkirchen, Goslar, ... They have conserved more or less their old town centers and regional diverse architecture.
Dr.Seltsam November 28th, 2008, 12:06 AM Heidelberg is a fucking detour but I think you won't have regrets!
skysdalimit November 30th, 2008, 02:55 AM So do you guys think my plan would be do-able if I had 5 3-4 day trips instead of 3 trips?
I think you see alot of Americans (and especially the Japanese with their cameras) hop from place to place rapidly because they have limited time and want to see every place they are possibly able to. I have a little more time obviously than most Americans with their 2 week maximum vacations, but I still feel pressed for time because I want to see the majority of western Europe. I want to see alot of places, so that's why I have to go from place to place faster than maybe you guys would, because you guys live in Europe.
Mmh...perhaps I'm a little condescending here, but...do Americans even notice the differences between Munich and Hamburg, Prague and Vienna? We are conditioned to our own city's identity but can hardly tell one American city from another. Why should it be different the other way round?
As an American, I definitely notice the differences between European cities in different regions. When I went to Spain, I noticed an obvious difference between cities like Madrid and Sevilla, Granada and A Coruna. There are also many differences between American cities. I know alot of our sprawl looks similar in parts, but there are many differences between the regions of the US. For example, cities like and Atlanta and Phoenix look totally different from each other and have different feels, although they are similar in size and both sprawl out. Anyways, I think I'll pick up on the differences between European cities fairly easily. :cheers::banana:
thun November 30th, 2008, 11:13 AM Hm, it wouldn't be bad at all (of course).
You realize that the whole Benelux and Western Germany is only a daytrip from Maastricht, so it shouldn't be hard to see that.
Maybe you can decide to rule out some cities, that would give you more time (especially if you want to go around in the whole of Europe).
Maybe you are lucky to find e. g. an low-budget flight to cities like Vienna, Berlin or Prague. The choice of airports reachable in a acceptable time around Maastricht isn't bad at all. Otherwise, as I said, using overnight trains on the long routes is something I would strongely recommend.
Eurolines runs long distance busses all over Europe, but I don't know about the exact connections and if they would run overnight.
Bahnsteig4 November 30th, 2008, 11:58 AM As an American, I definitely notice the differences between European cities in different regions.
OK, sorry then. ;)
Max BGF November 30th, 2008, 10:00 PM Visit one of Germany´s megacities: Berlin, Hamburg or München. All of them quite similar, large and filled with locations.
Then visit Stuttgart, our only topographically interesting major city. The other bigger cities show poor altitude differences just around 15 feet or more.
Hence, Stuttgart is here called the "Frisco of Germany" (whereas Cologne is it for other reasons).
Admiring the teeny-weeny European skylines you might plan a stop-over in Frankfurt on your way to Stuttgart.
Kampflamm November 30th, 2008, 11:47 PM Stuttgart has a beautifuk coastline.
Zoologic December 2nd, 2008, 08:25 PM Visting Hamburg & Copenhagen or Munich & Vienna on 3 or 4 days is a bit... japanese (or american ;)). Take your time.
I was dissapointed with Copenhagen.
Didn't get a good vibe.
Seemed a bit austere.
imaginas March 2nd, 2009, 11:06 AM Hello.I booked a hotel in Frankfurt.The hotel is in Muhlheim area.Is near to center of town?in addition is a good area?Will be my first time in Germany and i don't know nothing!!!
Patrick March 2nd, 2009, 12:03 PM Hi! Mühlheim is located south of the Main River between the cities of Offenbach (120,000 inh., 6 minutes via railway) and Hanau (90,000 inh., 7 minutes via railway). The whole area is located approx. 13 km east of Frankfurt's Inner City. It takes 18 minutes from Mühlheim to ride via railway (S-Bahn) right into the city center of Frankfurt. Have a nice stay :)
http://maps.google.de/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Berliner+Str.%2FK818&daddr=B43%2FDeutschherrnufer+to:50.12476,8.827171+to:M%C3%BChlheim+am+Main,+Offenbach,+Hessen&hl=de&geocode=FWyj_AId4HKEAA%3BFfWL_AIdoOCEAA%3B%3B&mra=dpe&mrcr=0&mrsp=2&sz=12&via=1,2&sll=50.122999,8.776703&sspn=0.116883,0.307617&ie=UTF8&z=12
imaginas March 2nd, 2009, 12:57 PM Thank you very much for the infos!I will go in September for the international auto show,but i booked a room from now,becouse is cheaper!
C-Beam March 2nd, 2009, 10:58 PM This is a video of the Mühlheim train station and the train S8/S9 to Frankfurt departing:
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Here you can see S8/S9 arriving at Frankfurt central station:
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goschio March 3rd, 2009, 12:58 AM Wow, that's german Gastfreundschaft. C-beam extra made this video to show our foreign guest the train service. :applause:
C-Beam March 3rd, 2009, 01:05 AM Yes, mein Freund. The Kultur-Schock will be big enough for him. At least he will now recognize the friendly red train upon arrival.
imaginas March 3rd, 2009, 08:19 PM What is the distance from Mühlheim is the expo center where will be the Auto Show?
C-Beam March 3rd, 2009, 09:59 PM About 15km / 25min by car.
imaginas April 2nd, 2009, 02:14 PM The hotel is in Mainstr street.From Railway Station has buses or tram to go near in the street?How can i find answer?
il fenomeno April 2nd, 2009, 10:55 PM could you propably reword this?
imaginas April 3rd, 2009, 05:42 AM Ok.I know how i will go to Mulheim from airport of Frankfurt.I will use the S8 train.My question is:From the station,what bus/tram can i use to go in my hotel?There is local transport,and where can i take more information about timetables etc?
anfer April 3rd, 2009, 07:50 AM Hello,
maybe you should take a look at www.rmv.de which is the homepage of the public transportation service for the Frankfurt and Rhein-Main Area.
I hope it helps.
il fenomeno April 3rd, 2009, 04:18 PM have you looked up, if you can walk to your hotel? mühlheim isnt that big.
imaginas April 4th, 2009, 10:47 AM have you looked up, if you can walk to your hotel? mühlheim isnt that big.
The distance is about 2.5km!Is not long,but i will be in an unknown city!Everyday i walk about 3.5km from my home to near metro station,but i live here 34 years!
Peppersley April 24th, 2009, 08:35 PM ....
imaginas May 27th, 2009, 07:58 AM Hello
I will visit Frankfurt as September and i want to see the international motorshow.I will be there 16-19 September,and 17-18 is a "trade day" of motorshow.Anybody knows about the trade days?The ticket is expesive but i don't know what offers these days.
derUlukai May 27th, 2009, 07:59 PM i think those days are mostly for business-people, and they don`t want to have the large public crowd.. it`s possible that u can buy those tickets only if you`re business-related to one of the participating firms.
imaginas May 29th, 2009, 10:45 PM Hello
I want visit the motorshow during the trade days,becouse i want avoid the crowd.I am not a professional...I sended today a message to IAA and i am waiting for the answer.
imaginas May 29th, 2009, 11:00 PM Ok.I found the answer in FAQ of IAA web site.Is the follow
What ID do I need on "trade days" at the IAA?
The two trade days at the IAA offer the opportunity to visit the motor show for business purposes before the public days. You do not need to be accredited as a professional visitor or a trader, but there are special entrance tickets for both days at special prices. The tickets for the trade days can be purchased in advance from 1 July 2009 here, or on the same conditions from the cash desks at the grounds on trade days. Just like all IAA tickets, the tickets for the trade days entitle the holder to enter the fair once. If these special tickets are not used on trade days, they may still be used on a public day afterwards.
erbse May 30th, 2009, 10:04 AM That's pretty interesting, 'cause I considered visiting the IAA as well :)
So, your question's answered now?
imaginas May 30th, 2009, 10:39 AM Yes,i will buy a ticket for trade day.Is expensive,but i will take photos without problems!Last year i was in Geneva and the motorshow was crowd and the photography was very dificult.I hope in Frankfurt to see many new models (cars) and pretty models (women)!!!!!
:)
Bender May 31st, 2009, 10:10 PM I did not know you could buy a "trade day ticket" as a simple citizen.
Trade day means : less cars displayed (only the most interesting), access to almost all booths and cars (Ferrari and Maserati included), MUCH less people, catering (but in crisis mode most likely), top models everywhere...
IAA is hell on a public day. I went last time and I left immediately - but I had been to the press days before :cheers:
imaginas June 1st, 2009, 05:46 AM Hello Bender.
The faq says: You do not need to be accredited as a professional visitor or a trader, but there are special entrance tickets for both days at special prices
If i pay the expensive ticket (45 euros) why not?Last year i was in Geneva for motorshow,and had many people.I couldn't take more pictures.For this reason i choose the trade day in IAA.I will pay the ticket and i think i will not have problem!I don't care about catering.New cars,and pretty models are enough for me!!!!:)
imaginas June 6th, 2009, 07:21 AM Hello
I will stay in the appartment in Mühlheim,and i want ask you what kind of card can i buy to use the trains,trams etc.I saw varius cards at http://www.rmv.de/ but i can't choice!
Skyline.Fan June 6th, 2009, 08:01 PM I'd buy a week card for the area around Frankfurt + to Mühlheim. You shoulda get something like this in the main trainstation Frankfurt ticket center.
C-Beam June 7th, 2009, 09:14 AM How long do you stay? What kind of trips will you make?
imaginas June 9th, 2009, 06:37 AM How long do you stay? What kind of trips will you make?
I will stay only 3 days.Every day from Muhlheim i will go to Frankfurt and back (the night).
I want to see the all the Frankfurt main area.I will go to visit the IAA.
diogoap July 22nd, 2009, 03:03 AM Guten Abend,
Entschuldigung ich spresche (und schreibe) nur ein bisschein Deutsch. Ich und mein Vater wollen nach Hannover reisen. Wir möchten in das DOMOTEX gehen, das ist im Januar, 16 bis 19. Ist in Hannover ein gut Hotel preis "around" (entschuldigung) 50 euro pro nacht? Können wir bei bahn (S-bahn, vieleicht) zu DOMOTEX gehen?
Viele Danke!
GrüBes,
Diogo
Leine1977 July 22nd, 2009, 09:09 AM Guten Abend,
Entschuldigung ich spresche (und schreibe) nur ein bisschein Deutsch. Ich und mein Vater wollen nach Hannover reisen. Wir möchten in das DOMOTEX gehen, das ist im Januar, 16 bis 19. Ist in Hannover ein gut Hotel preis "around" (entschuldigung) 50 euro pro nacht? Können wir bei bahn (S-bahn, vieleicht) zu DOMOTEX gehen?
Viele Danke!
GrüBes,
Diogo
Boa dia!
Welcome to Hannover. Zur Domotex gibt es gute Bahnverbindungen (Linie 8 direkt vor der Messe). Hotels gibt es viele und 50 Euro sind eigentlich kein Problem. Aber wenn Messe ist, sind die Preise meistens teurer.
Vielleicht ist hier etwas dabei?
http://www.hannover.de/de/tourismus/Hotels___Unterkunft/
Adeus, Leine
Squig July 22nd, 2009, 10:29 AM Ihr könnt auch die S-Bahn benuitzen, je nachdem, wie weit euer Hotel vom Bahnhof ist, ist das schneller. Linie 8 ist eine Stadtbahnlinie (Im Zentrum U-Bahn, außerhalb eine Art Tram).
Das Messegelände ist eigentlich überall in Deutsch und Englisch ausgeschildert, das sollte kein Problem sein.
50€ ist ok, es gibt aber auch günstigere Hotels, die dann weniger Service bieten.
diogoap July 22nd, 2009, 01:16 PM Boa dia!
Welcome to Hannover. Zur Domotex gibt es gute Bahnverbindungen (Linie 8 direkt vor der Messe). Hotels gibt es viele und 50 Euro sind eigentlich kein Problem. Aber wenn Messe ist, sind die Preise meistens teurer.
Vielleicht ist hier etwas dabei?
http://www.hannover.de/de/tourismus/Hotels___Unterkunft/
Adeus, Leine
Ja, Danke! Die website ist sehr gut. Ich fand über die Bahn in Hannover bei Wikipedia, es sieht leicht!
Gefelt mir sehr gut die Bilder hier. Hannover ist eine sehr schön Stadt!
Tschüs!
diogoap July 22nd, 2009, 01:18 PM Ihr könnt auch die S-Bahn benuitzen, je nachdem, wie weit euer Hotel vom Bahnhof ist, ist das schneller. Linie 8 ist eine Stadtbahnlinie (Im Zentrum U-Bahn, außerhalb eine Art Tram).
Das Messegelände ist eigentlich überall in Deutsch und Englisch ausgeschildert, das sollte kein Problem sein.
50€ ist ok, es gibt aber auch günstigere Hotels, die dann weniger Service bieten.
Sehr gut! :)
hedi1920 July 22nd, 2009, 05:42 PM Guten Abend,
Entschuldigung ich spresche (und schreibe) nur ein bisschein Deutsch. Ich und mein Vater wollen nach Hannover reisen. Wir möchten in das DOMOTEX gehen, das ist im Januar, 16 bis 19. Ist in Hannover ein gut Hotel preis "around" (entschuldigung) 50 euro pro nacht? Können wir bei bahn (S-bahn, vieleicht) zu DOMOTEX gehen?
Viele Danke!
GrüBes,
Diogo
hallo,
mir fällt spontan das stella-hotel ein:
http://www.stellahotel-hannover.de/de/html/home_on.asp
oder vielleicht hier mal gucken: http://www.messe.de/23058
die messetickets gelten , glaub ich, auch als bahntickets.
hier infos zur anreise mit public transport http://www.messe.de/23055
viel spass in hannover
Plaas July 28th, 2009, 04:03 PM Nächsten Freitag werde ich nach Bamberg reisen. Ich werde zwei tagen in Bamberg bleiben und hoffe dort natürlich die Altstadt enktdecken zu können. Ich interessiere mich aber auch für moderne Architektur. Gibt's gute moderne Architektur in Bamberg? Wohin kann ich am besten gehen wenn ich interessante moderne Gebäuden sehen möchte?
Vielleicht könnt ihr mir helfen :)
erbse July 28th, 2009, 05:02 PM Hallo! Bamberg lohnt sich immer :)
Als großartiges Gesamtkunstwerk mit tausendjähriger Bautradition gibt es natürlich nicht so viel moderne Architektur in Bamberg (zum Glück).
Alles, was mir jetzt spontan einfällt, sind die Konzerthalle (http://www.konzerthalle-bamberg.de/) und das E.T.A. Hoffmann Theater (http://www.kr3m-demo.de/sob08/www_e/img/presse/theater_150dpi_17x12cm.jpg). Aber auch die zwei Bauten lohnen sicher.
PS: Wenn du schon in Bamberg bist, vergiss nicht, unbedingt dem Kloster Vierzehnheiligen (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilika_Vierzehnheiligen) einen Besuch abzustatten! Zum Kloster Banz (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kloster_Banz) gleich nebenan kannst du dann auch noch wandern. Auch Schloss Pommersfelden (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schloss_Pommersfelden) und Seehof (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schloss_Seehof) sind einen Abstecher wert. Bayreuth ist auch nicht fern. Generell: Genieße Franken in vollen Zügen, es gibt dort so viel zu entdecken!
Bringst du uns denn auch ein paar Bilder mit? :)
Plaas July 28th, 2009, 07:16 PM Fotografieren werde ich Bamberg sicher ;) Ob ich die Zeit finde, nach die schön aussehenden Kloster und Schlösser zu gehen, weiß ich nicht... ich fürchte, das zwei Tagen sogar für Bamberg allein zu wenig sind. Mit dem Zug fahre ich Sonntag über Lichtenfels und das Thüringer Wald nach Leipzig, vielleicht gelingt mir dann die Vierzehnheiligen-Kirche vom Zug aus zu sehen...
Meine Reisebilder veröffentliche ich meistens auf niederländischem Forum, aber weil es diesmal eine Deutschlandreise ist, möchte ich auch einige Bilder auf deutschem Forum publizieren. :) Wart mal ab :cheers:
Plaas July 29th, 2009, 08:20 AM Während meiner Deutschlandreise werde ich Würzburg besuchen. Auch gehe ich nach:
-Frankfurt
-Bamberg
-Leipzig
-Goslar
Wird eine dieser Städte es gegen Würzburg aufnehmen können?
Küsel July 29th, 2009, 08:45 AM Nein, da musst du schon noch Dresden miteinbeziehen ;)
erbse July 29th, 2009, 09:35 AM Goslar und Bamberg sind viel schöner als Würzburg :tongue2:
Du solltest irgendwie noch Quedlinburg (http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quedlinburg_(stad)) und Görlitz (http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Görlitz) mit einplanen, 2 der schönsten Städte Mitteleuropas!
Wer die nicht gesehen hat, wird seines Lebens nicht mehr froh ;)
Plaas July 29th, 2009, 10:29 AM Während meiner Deutschlandreise werde ich Würzburg besuchen. Auch gehe ich nach:
-Frankfurt
-Bamberg
-Leipzig
-Goslar
Wird eine dieser Städte es gegen Würzburg aufnehmen können?
Warum ist dies moderiert worden? Frankfurt, Leipzig und Goslar liegen doch nicht im Süden?
erbse July 29th, 2009, 10:43 AM Keine Sorge, ich baue hier gerade etwas um, deine Fragen kommen in einen allgemeinen Deutschland-Reise-Thread :)
Bauer-Ewald July 29th, 2009, 11:43 AM Bamberg ist immer eine Reise wert. Eine Stadt mit interessanter Kulturlandschaft, die leider unter Wert gehandelt wird.
thun July 29th, 2009, 07:00 PM Gottseidank wird sie unter Wert gehandelt.
Unbedingt auch die kulinarischen Schätze Frankens probieren, ich empfehle Bratwürstl mit Kraut und dazu Rauchbier! Und viel Spaß natürlich im Urlaub. :)
Plaas July 30th, 2009, 06:17 AM Rauchbier werde ich sicher trinken - und auch die anderen Spezialitäten :cheers: Noch eine Stunde und die Reise fängt an!
Geborgenheit August 30th, 2009, 09:33 PM Bremen ist besser als Hamburg. Ich war in beiden Städten. :) Meine Eindrücke:
Hamburg- ziemlich deprimierend, außer schwarzbraungrau wohl kaum Farben, viel Alkohol, Bordelle auf Schritt und Tritt. Die Stadt macht einen schweren Eindruck, richtig depressiv und schwermütig. Das einzig Positive wäre nur der Flughafen nach der Renovierung.
Bremen- freundliche Menschen, kleine und putzige Altstadt, generell ziemlich leichte und unkomplizierte Stadt, alles bequem, easy.
Bin für Bremen mit beiden Händen! :)
P.S. Ich möchte niemand verletzen, es sind nur meine subjektiven Eindrücke. Bitte nicht böse sein! :)
kroten September 7th, 2009, 10:34 PM Hi!
I want to explore Meclemburg and Brandenburg. As yet I was in Stralsund, Greifswald, Rugen and Usedom island. Could you recommend me some interesting places to see?
erbse September 9th, 2009, 07:42 PM ^^ No one who could possibly help this mate? :D
il fenomeno September 9th, 2009, 07:46 PM anstatt zu helfen, macht sich erbse nur über unsere ausländischen freunde lustig. :ohno:
erbse September 9th, 2009, 10:57 PM Hat mich schon per PN kontaktiert, der gute Kollege. Aber es gab Hoffnung, dass ihm hier noch findige User mit Rat & Tat zur Seite stünden, so schien es.
Schnitzel September 9th, 2009, 11:01 PM Nicht Tod und Zerstörung fürchtet der gemeine Wunderbare. Aber der Osten ist eine Zone, die... sagen wir respektiert wird. ;)
erbse September 9th, 2009, 11:10 PM Du bist ein schlechter Mensch. Nein, du bist ein wahrlich schlechtes Fleischerzeugnis, Schnitzel.
Schnitzel September 10th, 2009, 06:19 PM Immerhin versuche ich mich zu bessern.
Einsicht wäre dazu ja schonmal der erste Schritt. Sage dir bescheid, sobald ich den gegangen bin ;)
Plaas September 20th, 2009, 07:22 PM Außerendlich sind die erste Bamberg-Fotos von mein Besuch anzusehen in niederländischem Forum:
Aachen (auf Niederländisch heißt es Aken) (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=43335378#post43335378)
Frankfurt (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=962362)
Der Text ist auf Niederländisch, aber vielleicht können die Deutschen es doch verstehen - unsere Sprachen sind einander ähnlich ;)
erbse December 13th, 2009, 07:42 PM The best travel guide of Germany you could possibly get:
Germany - Some photos every few days (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=584411)
:cheers1:
Ji-Ja-Jot December 18th, 2009, 04:09 PM Bezugnehmend auf diesen FAZ-Artikel (http://www.faz.net/s/RubB4457BA9094E4B44BD26DF6DCF5A5F00/Doc~E33024E2BBE4F4978B3EC6DE0E7159FD4~ATpl~Ecommon~Scontent.html) mit Randnotiz zum Zustand einiger Bahnen:
naja, die Faz hat schon recht. die Berliner S und U Bahnen sind einfach nur scheisse, dreckig und voller unsympatischen Gesocks.
Sollte es irgendwann mal eine Liste der beschisstensten Bahnstationen der Welt geben, ist das Cottbusser Tor sicher unter den Top-10
Skyline_FFM December 18th, 2009, 04:12 PM naja, die Faz hat schon recht. die Berliner S und U Bahnen sind einfach nur scheisse, dreckig und voller unsympatischen Gesocks.
Und das trifft so ziemlich auf jedes ÖPNV-Mittel zu, in dem ich schon gesessen habe, sei es in Berlin, Hamburg, Frankfurt, Paris, London, Sao Paulo, Buenos Aires, NYC etc...
Ji-Ja-Jot December 18th, 2009, 04:16 PM ^^ im direkten vergleich stinkt das Berliner Netz an Gesocks und Dreck und schimmel (vor allem die Stationen) gegenüber so ziehmlich allen ÖPNV-Netze, die ich benutzt habe, ab. Obs jetzt Hamburg, Rom, München, Frankfurt, London, Paris oder Rotterdam ist. Und das ist zur Abwechslung keiner der üblichen scherzhaften Berlindisse. Ich hasse es regelrecht dort einzusteigen ...
thun December 18th, 2009, 04:27 PM Ist zwar schon ein bisschen her, dass ich in Berlin war, aber das stimmt absolut. München, Wien, Madrid, etc. sind da um Welten besser.
George W. Bush December 18th, 2009, 05:14 PM Ist zwar schon ein bisschen her, dass ich in Berlin war, aber das stimmt absolut. München, Wien, Madrid, etc. sind da um Welten besser.Das hängt stark von der Strecke ab. Zwischen Schlesisches Tor und Möckernbrücke fahren ganz andere Leute als zwischen Wittenbergplatz und Krumme Lanke.
thun December 18th, 2009, 06:21 PM Dachte auch nicht wirklich an die Leute, sondern primär an den Vandalismus.
George W. Bush December 19th, 2009, 11:48 AM Dachte auch nicht wirklich an die Leute, sondern primär an den Vandalismus.Die Berliner U-Bahn ist auch nicht schlimmer als die meisten betagten U-Bahnen dieser Welt, in New York oder London sieht es ähnlich schlicht und mehr oder weniger grottig aus. U-Bahnen weit jüngeren Datums wie in München und Düsseldorf sind natürlich besser.
Die Berliner S-Bahn ist zum Teil wirklich unterirdisch, was Aussehen und Zustand der Wagen angeht. Ist halt die Deutsche Bahn, eh nicht bekannt für besonders gepflegte Züge, vom ICE mal abgesehen (selbst da alles andere als perfekt).
thun December 19th, 2009, 12:39 PM Naja, es fällt halt schon auf, dass in Berlin praktisch kein Zug graffitifrei ist, die Münchner S- und U-Bahn dagegen schon (da sind Graffitis die Ausnahme). Den schwarzen Peter dafür der DB zuzuschieben (die in beiden Fällen der Betreiber ist) wäre wohl zu einfach, schließlich hat Berlin das selbe Problem auch an Häusern, etc. in viel größerem Ausmaß. Dazu kommt halt noch, dass, wie Du ja sagst, der Zustand der Züge (ist mir auch vor allem in der S-Bahn aufgefallen) teilweise katastrophal ist (verkratzte Scheiben, beschmierte Sitze, etc.).
Dass bezgl. des Aufbaus der Stationen, etc. die Berliner U-Bahn nicht mit der Münchner vergleichbar ist ist mir auch klar. Finde, dass beide ihren Reiz haben (architektonisch).
George W. Bush December 19th, 2009, 01:00 PM Süddeutschland ist generell verhältnismäßig graffittifreie Zone. NRW ist besonders schlimm, was das angeht. Das ist, was die Optik angeht, das Bundesland mit den siffigsten und verbrauchtesten Städten überhaupt (fällt besonders deutlich auf, wenn man die Grenze nach Holland überquert, schlagartig wirkt alles neuer, frischer, gepflegter, moderner und schöner, selbst die Menschen sehen besser aus und sind vor allem größer, das einzige, was schlimmer wird, ist die Sprache :tongue2:).
Skyline_FFM December 19th, 2009, 04:05 PM Süddeutschland ist generell verhältnismäßig graffittifreie Zone. NRW ist besonders schlimm, was das angeht. Das ist, was die Optik angeht, das Bundesland mit den siffigsten und verbrauchtesten Städten überhaupt (fällt besonders deutlich auf, wenn man die Grenze nach Holland überquert, schlagartig wirkt alles neuer, frischer, gepflegter, moderner und schöner, selbst die Menschen sehen besser aus und sind vor allem größer, das einzige, was schlimmer wird, ist die Sprache :tongue2:).
Dem stimme ich zu! Die Eurobahn hatte ihre neuen "Flirt"-Züge noch nicht einmal in Betrieb genommen, da wurden sie in Münster und Dortmund schon zugesaut! Unmöglich! :ohno:
Bezahlt wird sowas dann über die Fahrpreise!
R@ptor December 21st, 2009, 01:50 AM Dem stimme ich zu! Die Eurobahn hatte ihre neuen "Flirt"-Züge noch nicht einmal in Betrieb genommen, da wurden sie in Münster und Dortmund schon zugesaut! Unmöglich! :ohno:
Das ist etwas das ich hier in Asien wirklich mag...selbst in den schlechtesten Vierteln haben Strassenunterfuehrungen keinerlei Graffitis, U-Bahnen und U-Bahn Stationen sind ebenfalls nicht im geringsten beschmiert, die Sitzpolster sehen auch noch nach 2 Jahren wie neu aus und vor allem gibt es nirgendwo dieses assoziale Gesindel das ueberall in der westlichen Welt ein Problem in U-Bahnen darstellt. Keine Poebeleien, keine Spukereien, kein Idiot der meint er muesste mit seinem Handy laut Musik hoeren,...
Ji-Ja-Jot December 21st, 2009, 10:57 AM dafür gibts in Shanghai ne ganze horde (ca 9 Millionen) deppen, die alle gleichzeitig ein und aussteigen wollen und dann die Tür blockieren. In Berlin warten sogar die Pseudogangster "höflich", bis alle raus sind.
George W. Bush December 21st, 2009, 01:53 PM Wundert mich nicht. In Berlin könnten es allenfalls 3 1/2 Millionen Deppen sein.
Mateusz January 26th, 2010, 09:52 PM Nachstes Jahr gehe ich nach Koln. Konnen Sie mir empfehlen, eine gute, aber nicht zu teuer Restaurant? McDonalds oder KFC ist überall und um ehrlich zu sein,es ist echte Scheisse.
erbse January 26th, 2010, 10:06 PM Good idea. Fastfood sucks, anyway. Go and search for the term 'Thekenschaaf', there are some awesome historic restaurants featuring those. For more detailed inform. users like Kampflamm might help.
When are you going there and for what purpose? During the 5th season / carnival?
Skyline_FFM January 26th, 2010, 10:20 PM Nachstes Jahr gehe ich nach Koln. Konnen Sie mir empfehlen, eine gute, aber nicht zu teuer Restaurant? McDonalds oder KFC ist überall und um ehrlich zu sein,es ist echte Scheisse.
:applause: :applause:
Mateusz January 26th, 2010, 10:39 PM Yeah, as breakfasts in Jugendherberge are rather modest, first thing when we get to city is 'Let's eat!'. So some proper meal and a glass of Bitburger or Warsteiner should do the trick, not some junk 'burger'...
I am going just on end of March, it's a college trip. We will visit Cathedral and some other stuff there. Other towns which we will visit in Germany are Rudesheim which is quite brilliant in my opinion but almost all pubs/restaurants were closed so we had a choice between one pub, one italian restaurant and kebab take away ;) But isn't it just beginning of the season before Ostern ? So it should be all cool. Other one I can't remember, somewhere where we will take some chair lift.
Ricardo P March 12th, 2010, 02:25 PM Gibt's irgendwo in Freiburg ein günstiges Hostel? Ich will in kürze nach Freiburg kommen, denn ich bewerben muss. Letzten Sommer schlief ich im B&B an der Tullastrasse. Aber das war noch ziemlich teuer. Ich glaub es kostet 55 euro p.p.p.n. Wer weiss das?
youngwoerth March 12th, 2010, 07:29 PM Ui, Tullastraße. Ganz schön hässlich! :yes:
Dann doch lieber hier: http://www.blackforest-hostel.de/ ;)
Ricardo P March 13th, 2010, 11:03 AM Haha, schön ist es nicht. Aber das Wetter war scheiße, also das war uns egal. Aber B&B war glaub ich die günstigste in Freiburg.
Ich guck mal beim Blackforest Hostel.
treyboro March 26th, 2010, 06:59 AM Sofitel, my bro and I are staying. Nice! Last year was the Hyatt.
Unfinished biz. One day was matchday, the other, getting tickets for matchday
at the Nordbank arena which took 3 hours of figuring out despite Schnitzel's concise directions. U-Bahn, S-Bahn threw us for a loop.
Hamburg deserves a second round!
Got the suite, sweet! Discounted.
http://www.accorhotels.com/gb/hotel-...ll/media.shtml
vecchiaguardia May 19th, 2010, 03:44 PM Ok sorry but I have to say this in english, I don't speak german...
In 1995 I went to visit Munchen with my school; in the same trip I remember that we saw Augsburg, Neuschwanstein Castle, Dachau concentration camp... that's pretty much all I remember today.
I got this picture of the interior of a church that I really would like to find out, because after some web researches I stll can't find it. I hope that you can help me, maybe you will recognize it from this picture.
http://i48.tinypic.com/2whqidk.jpg
Thanks in advance, obviously
Andrea, Italy
thun May 19th, 2010, 04:23 PM It's the Unesco-world heritage Wieskirche (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wies_Church) in Steingaden-Wies, quite near to Neuschwanstein.
vecchiaguardia May 19th, 2010, 05:02 PM Well, danke schoen! Very kind, and very fast as well :)
erbse May 19th, 2010, 05:32 PM It's an amazing church. There are some more of this kind, you got to see the one inside Würzburger Residenz if you ever go to this region again. Do you intend to do so, or to visit some other places in Germany? :)
thun May 20th, 2010, 12:57 AM Prego. Nessun problema. ;)
vecchiaguardia May 20th, 2010, 11:57 AM Well, I haven't planned another trip to Germany for the moment, but I'd like very much to come back because I still remember Munchen... it was just awesome, probably the most beautiful city I've ever seen.
Thanks again ;)
Newropean June 9th, 2010, 11:25 PM Ma dai, da dove sei?
Monaco, the most beautiful city ever seen? And that from an Italian? That's a huuge compliment if I ever saw one! :)
Pansori June 27th, 2010, 01:39 AM Hallo all :)
It happens that I'll be dropping in Duesseldorf (and the nearby areas including not-so-nearby Frankfurt) in the end of July. My plan is to see the major cities (Duesseldorf, Koeln, Frankfurt, Koblenz and anything else that you would recommend) and, of course, the beautiful Rhine valley. I'll be based in Duesseldorf during my stay.
The problem is that I have absolutely no idea about this area apart that it's very dense, has lots of Autobahnen and the Rhine Valley which is incredibly beautiful.
So my question is:
- what should I see in any of the big cities nearby (beautiful buildings, nice and good value restaurants, museums, simply nice observation spots to take photos etc.)
- what places should I see in the Rhine Valley? I would really love to see something as terrific as this: http://www.koblenz-touristik.de/uploads/pics/Pauschal_Koblenz_Tor_zum_Unesco_Welterbe_01.jpg (I wonder where is that... I'd really love to see this very same spot). Any beautiful and romantic towns, natural landscapes etc. is what I'm after.
- what are the best places to dine? Maybe there are some well-renowned and good value restaurants that are worth visiting anywhere in the area?
-ANY other tips or suggestions.
I'll have 5 full days and a car with unlimited mileage so driving a few dozens of km here and there is not a problem at all as long as I can see something nice.
I'd be very thankful for any tips!
erbse July 23rd, 2010, 11:37 AM ^ Looks like your request got overlooked by people who could help. :dunno:
Hopefully you get some interesting advice soon enough.
As you got suggestions for Wiesbaden in Kampflamm's photo thread, we should add them here for others as well:
Kampf, could you recommend what to see in Wiesbaden during a very quick (say, half a day) visit? I will definitely stop over there next week but unfortunately I can't dedicate the entire day since there are so many things to see during my 5 day holidays in Ruhr area (+ Frankfurt). What are the "must-see" streets, squares and other landmarks which I could quickly run around with my camera?
P.S. great photos and the city looks wonderful. It's surprising that it hardly gets any attention even over SSC which is supposed to be a place for people who care about beautiful cities.
Here's my suggestion. I don't want to "steal" from Kampflamm's wonderful photos here, so I only provide links to wikipedia photos if you are interested)
1) Arrive at Hauptbahnhof: photo (http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/static.panoramio.com/photos/original/17273804.jpg)
2) Leave by main exit and turn left on Kaiser-Friedrich-Ring
3) You quickly come to a small but interestingly designed new shopping mall; check out and stock up on drinks etc. photo (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/e/e1/Liliencarre.JPG) photo (http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/static.panoramio.com/photos/original/31670827.jpg) (Worth climbing up to the top floor exit from the inside, past the fitness center as you end up on a cool rooftop plaza and an external exit that has some nice views and interesting modern architecture)
4) Continue up Kaiser-Friedrich-Ring until Adolfsallee. Walk up this street until end. It's one of the most pleasant routes into the city and has some beautiful old villas with large balcony's and terraces. photo (http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/static.panoramio.com/photos/original/5634066.jpg)
5) This will take you straight to Luisenplatz which has a large cathedral and some monuments.photo (http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/static.panoramio.com/photos/original/10430185.jpg)
6) Walk through and turn left on Luisenstr until the next street which is the main pedestrian shopping zone. photo (http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/static.panoramio.com/photos/original/2353798.jpg)
7) Walk up (north) this street (Kirchgasse) exploring the shops and make sure you turn off (and right) before reaching the end to explore the old town with all the lovely narrow streets, cafe's etc. In this area you will find the Schloßplatz area which is where you will find the main cathedral, state capital building (Hessischer Landtag), city market etc. It's actually quite a wonderful collection of plaza's and open space. photo (http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/static.panoramio.com/photos/original/656723.jpg)
8) Sneak through an arcade photo (http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/static.panoramio.com/photos/original/3970861.jpg) to make your way onto Wilhelmstraße and you will find yourself on a lovely elegant street with some quite expensive shops. On the other side is the park, casino and bad, but just look from this side of the street for now, we will come here later.
9) Walk north up Wilhelmstraße until you reach Taunusstraße and turn up that. Shortly to your left is yet another lovely square Kochbrunnenplatz. Pop into the cafe if you like as it could be your last drink for a while ;O) photo (http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/static.panoramio.com/photos/original/9591837.jpg) photo (http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/static.panoramio.com/photos/original/34650176.jpg)
10) Head all the up Taunusstraße. This street is sort of currently in renovation with some trendy shops moving in, but it quickly opens up to more grand villa's as you end up in sort of a valley. photo (http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/static.panoramio.com/photos/original/6846150.jpg) These villas are of completely different architecture to those from Adolfsallee.
11) Eventually you will reach the beginning of the Nerotal Park which is a lovely "English landscape garden" often referred to as the city's Botanical Gardens because of the enormous amount of unusual plants there. photo (http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/static.panoramio.com/photos/original/21767327.jpg) Walk all the way through this, but make sure you also catch glimpses of the amazing villa's on either side of this narrow park.
12) Where the park ends, is the beginning of the historical funicular train that will take you to the top of the Neroberg. photo (http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/static.panoramio.com/photos/original/2423326.jpg) Well worth it for views of the city, the park, forest and orthodox church. photo (http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/static.panoramio.com/photos/original/2423409.jpg) photo (http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/static.panoramio.com/photos/original/10411123.jpg)
You can do a couple of things here. One is to take a longer path through the forest, parks and leafy suburbs that will end up behind the wonderful Kurpark, but that could be a long and confusing walk without a decent map. If you have the map or time, I would really suggest that.
Or, you could buy a return ticket on the funicular and go back the same way down Taunusstraße.
Either way, you end up at the Kurpark.
13) The Kurpark is behind the old casino and Kurhaus. Explore the grounds and beautiful historical architecture. photo (http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/static.panoramio.com/photos/original/14122302.jpg) photo (http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/static.panoramio.com/photos/original/1509235.jpg)
14) And finally, you can follow the parks all the way back to the haupbahnhof.
It sounds like a longer tour than it is, but it can be done in a half day, if you start out early. The longest part is getting to the Funicular and going up, but there is a bus which you can use if you come back down the funicular and don't want to walk down Taunusstraße again. Just hop on the No.1 bus which will take you back to Kochbrunnenplatz and then it's only a short walk to the Kurhaus and Kurpark.
Damn, writing this and I want to do that walk myself right now ;O)
Fatfield August 3rd, 2010, 09:14 PM Hi. Sorry but I can't speak any German apart from ordering food and beer. :cheers:
Anyway, I'm going to a football game between Hoffenhein & Sunderland on 08/08 and I'll staying in Heidelberg. I get there on Friday 06/08 and wondered if anyone can point me in the direction of any decent bars etc. What beer is the best? Food? Saturday is a bit of a free day so is there anywhere in the vicinity worth visiting too?
Thanks in advance.
crazy_kosovar August 3rd, 2010, 10:35 PM most of heidelbergs bars and cafes are in untere gasse in the old town of heidelberg
thun August 4th, 2010, 12:33 AM ^^
I think you mean the "Untere Straße" (not Gasse), don't you?
Heidelberg is a uni town, so you should easily find a nice bar. :-) The area between the Hauptstraße (the main shopping street) and the Neckar is the party hot spot of the town (that's were the Untere Straße is located, too). The Cuban restaurant in the Stadthalle is quite ok (I don't know many others though). Otherwise, if the weather should be ok, the Neckar shores are the place to go to start chilled into the evening.
crazy_kosovar August 4th, 2010, 06:25 PM ^^
I think you mean the "Untere Straße" (not Gasse), don't you?
Heidelberg is a uni town, so you should easily find a nice bar. :-) The area between the Hauptstraße (the main shopping street) and the Neckar is the party hot spot of the town (that's were the Untere Straße is located, too). The Cuban restaurant in the Stadthalle is quite ok (I don't know many others though). Otherwise, if the weather should be ok, the Neckar shores are the place to go to start chilled into the evening.
hahaha yes it is untere strasse i thought it was untere gasse
thun August 4th, 2010, 06:43 PM Btw., the "Schillers Café" (Heiliggeiststraße) is one of the coziest cafes I've ever been to. Definitely worth to visit it!
Patrick August 5th, 2010, 11:18 PM I hope that your team will win and make sure you destroy as much as possible in the stadium :);):D
Sena_KG August 29th, 2010, 09:50 PM I am planning to visit Nuremberg in October. Could you tell me what I have to see in Nuremberg?
Greetings from Serbia
olnlmark September 16th, 2010, 03:22 PM Ist es irgendwo moeglich gratis zu parken auf der Strecke Zwischen Koeln Flughafen und Dusseldorf Flughafen?::hm
ELV April 23rd, 2011, 01:52 AM Hello, Im from Argentina and i have to go to Hannover next month. I need help....Are there any public transport from Hannover to Wedemark?
I must go every day to this destination.
Many Thanks
mediadave July 21st, 2011, 02:17 PM Hey, later in the year myself and my girlfriend will be visiting Germany on holiday. We have about a week and we're not too well off, so realistically we can only go to three different cities or places etc.
Berlin seems an obvious, and we have sort-of friends in Hamburg, but where else to go and does anyone have any suggestions to see? I would like to see Dresden, but mainly for architerctural reasons - beyond that is there much in Dresden to spend a couple of days? And my girlfriend may not be so enthusiastic about architecture as I am.
Any suggestions? Thanks.
Hasenfreund July 21st, 2011, 05:31 PM when do you plan to go ? Munich would be a good choice, specially between
mid sept. and early oct. when the biggest party on earth, octoberfest, is
taking place. for brits its heaven on earth. :cheers:
jeromeee July 21st, 2011, 05:59 PM Dresden is quite nice but I don't know if there is much to do since it's quite small compared to other cities. Maybe you could add Leipzig if you want to stay in the east.
Maybe you would enjoy Cologne, not a beauty but very vibrant and it has of course the Dom (Cathedral). And you always have a good nightout in Cologne.
If you're into Skyscrapers Frankfurt would be the obvious choice and there is enough to see for a day, maybe two.
JValjean July 21st, 2011, 09:20 PM If you are going to stay only for one week in Germany and Berlin's your first destination then I'd recommend to add Dresden and Leipzig, not only because they're both around the corner.
Dresden-Neustadt is a very charming quarter with lots of cafés. And of course the landscape around Dresden is very beautiful!
Erfurt, the capital of Thuringia with one of the biggest intact historic inner cities in Germany is a real medieval and renaissance pearl!
My personal favourite (bigger) city is Leipzig.
If you go to Berlin don't forget to visit Potsdam!
miau July 23rd, 2011, 02:26 PM Dresden is quite nice but I don't know if there is much to do since it's quite small compared to other cities. Maybe you could add Leipzig if you want to stay in the east.
Maybe you would enjoy Cologne, not a beauty but very vibrant and it has of course the Dom (Cathedral). And you always have a good nightout in Cologne.
Are you serious? I would say that Dresden is far more interesting than Cologne, not only because of the abundance of world-class tourist attractions (if you are interested in history, art etc.). Dresden-Neustadt is amazing too.
miau July 23rd, 2011, 02:33 PM Hey, later in the year myself and my girlfriend will be visiting Germany on holiday. We have about a week and we're not too well off, so realistically we can only go to three different cities or places etc.
Berlin seems an obvious, and we have sort-of friends in Hamburg, but where else to go and does anyone have any suggestions to see? I would like to see Dresden, but mainly for architerctural reasons - beyond that is there much in Dresden to spend a couple of days? And my girlfriend may not be so enthusiastic about architecture as I am.
So what does your GF like? There are plenty of museums in Dresden, but if she is not the intellectual type she might have fun go shopping? I don't now about the shopping facilities of Dresden though. If you rent a car, you could go to the Elbsandsteingebirge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elbsandsteingebirge) just south of Dresden.
DiggerD21 July 23rd, 2011, 02:35 PM We have about a week and we're not too well off, so realistically we can only go to three different cities or places etc.
Berlin seems an obvious, and we have sort-of friends in Hamburg
You could arrive in Berlin and stay 4 days there in a cheap hostel. Make a daytrip to Potsdam. Then take the bus to Hamburg. It takes 3 hours and if you book the bustickets early online, you can get them for 9 Euro per person (for the first and the last connection of the day). In Hamburg stay at your sort-of friends place for the remaining days, if they are not too far outside the city centre. On the departure day take the train to either Bremen or Lübeck, walk around a little for sightseeing and then take the flight back to London from there.
Alternative, to see more different regions of Germany (but it is more stress):
After Berlin, Potsdam and Hamburg, take the nightbus (9-Euro-Bus) from Hamburg to Heidelberg. If you are lucky and book early enough, you can get there for 9 euro per person. However be prepared to not sleep well that night. (unless you are used to take long distance nightbuses) :p. Find a place to sleep in Heidelberg for 1 night and explore the city. On the departure day take the shuttle bus to Frankfurt-Hahn airport for your flight.
youngwoerth July 23rd, 2011, 10:05 PM take the nightbus from Hamburg to Heidelberg.
And then the train from Heidelberg to Freiburg. ;)
Aliya July 24th, 2011, 12:56 AM I am going also to Berlin next month for a few days - I might visit Potsdam as it's been mentioned a few times here.
erbse July 24th, 2011, 09:34 AM You should also visit the Island of Usedom (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=625876). :)
mediadave July 25th, 2011, 02:31 PM when do you plan to go ? Munich would be a good choice, specially between
mid sept. and early oct. when the biggest party on earth, octoberfest, is
taking place. for brits its heaven on earth. :cheers:
Haha, i considered that, but unfortunately my girlfriend doesn't drink so it'd be a bit unfair. That said, I am planning on visiting lots of authentic bier halls etc, so suggestions on those would also be appreciated!
Thanks everyone for the advice so far!
DiggerD21 July 25th, 2011, 06:33 PM If you want to drink beer, then Bavaria is your main destination. 2/3 of all breweries in Germany are located there.
If you should come to Hamburg, I recommend Gröninger Privatbrauerei (http://www.groeninger-hamburg.de/index.htm). IMO the best local beer from Hamburg.
miau July 27th, 2011, 10:46 AM I am going also to Berlin next month for a few days - I might visit Potsdam as it's been mentioned a few times here.
You should definitely go visit Potsdam. :yes:
Aliya July 27th, 2011, 11:06 PM You should definitely go visit Potsdam. :yes:
I've now added it to my list of things/places to see. I'm staying at Potsdamer Platz so I will close to transport links :)
Can't wait - hope the weather holds up.
miau July 30th, 2011, 03:47 PM At the moment the weather is really awful, it is raining a lot and it is too cold for the summer with only 15-20°C; usually we have 25-30°C.
erbse July 30th, 2011, 03:51 PM The August will be our month of delight, as always. Summer's coming back next week.
And happiness and love and peace.
LtBk July 30th, 2011, 11:35 PM Is there anything to see in Dusseldorf? I just stumbled up this thread.
markus1234 July 31st, 2011, 06:39 PM The Rheinturm and the Königsalee.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rheinturm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6nigsallee
paderwan July 31st, 2011, 11:32 PM I've now added it to my list of things/places to see. I'm staying at Potsdamer Platz so I will close to transport links :)
Can't wait - hope the weather holds up.
The rainiest July in recorded history we had, but that promises a better August :) Potsdam would be a nice half-day trip - in many ways a time machine to what Berlin looked 250 years ago. Every new building makes the city look even older - the Potsdam miracle. Hope you have enough days for all of that and a pleasant trip.
LondonFox May 1st, 2012, 12:53 PM I'm going to Berlin again this year! Can't wait.. it's a fun place. :)
I like Germany.
erbse June 13th, 2012, 01:04 PM Always an amazingly inspring stimulus to travel through Germany and discover new places - our international photo thread that receives regular updates! :cool:
Germany - Some photos every few days (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=584411)
joga August 3rd, 2012, 11:52 AM Hello german friends!
Next week I'll be in Berlin for a few days and I need to know if, in your opinion, it is better to book on the internet the visit to the Reichstag or Bundestag in order to avoid the queue on the outside.
On the website www.bundestag.de there are three options: 1) "Lectures held in the visitors’ gallery overlooking the plenary chamber followed by a visit to the dome" (I don't understand the meaning of this option); 2) "Guided tours followed by a visit to the dome"; 3) "Visit to the dome". Which is the best choice?
Other places that I shall not miss during my first trip to this exciting city? :)
Thank you so much for any answer.
Vielen Dank.
Ciao. :hi:
KingNick August 3rd, 2012, 02:19 PM Opzione 1 vuol dire che prima del giro nel "Dome" c'é una lettura per 45 minuti riguarda la funzionalità del parlamento. La lettura in inglese si svolge solo martedì alle 12.
joga August 3rd, 2012, 06:07 PM Penso non sia l'opzione migliore. (Guess it's not the best option).
Grazie KingNick.
KingNick August 3rd, 2012, 06:33 PM Penso lo stesso. Onestamente non sono mai stato nel Bundestag ma la uniqua intenzione per me di andarci sarei l'architettura dell' edificio. Andrei con l'opzione 3.
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