View Full Version : New York City: 7 WTC rising from the ashes !!


TowersNYC
March 14th, 2004, 08:14 PM
I went to the WTC Construction site yesterday, it was a cold sunny day in New York City......saturday march 13, 2004.

I was so happy to see the steel beams rising from 7 WTC. :)


All photos by me, Carlos


view from World Financial center

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/nyctowers/ba1b250f.jpg

close - up, looking up the massive concrete ground level base


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/nyctowers/7wtc011.jpg


stairway over west street

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/nyctowers/7wtc010.jpg


still visible damage to the soon to be demolished....black tower :(

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/nyctowers/1d8f5a05.jpg


it is amazing, how beautiful the winter garden looks...it's like nothing ever happened there....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/nyctowers/7wtc002.jpg

Oloff
March 14th, 2004, 11:20 PM
Is a new WTC about to be built?

Do you have any model or computer made picture of it?

sasha ITALIA
March 15th, 2004, 12:13 AM
wtc7 looks great!!!

TowersNYC
March 15th, 2004, 12:27 AM
Originally posted by Oloff

Is a new WTC about to be built?

Do you have any model or computer made picture of it?

YES !!! The new WTC freedom Tower is gonna start construction this summer....

http://www.gothamgazette.com/graphics/freedomtower_night1.jpg

TowersNYC
March 15th, 2004, 12:31 AM
http://images.usatoday.com/news/_photos/2003/12/22-inside-freedom-tower.jpg

Spank
March 15th, 2004, 01:42 AM
Is it true that 7WTC is the first skyscraper in NYC to have a concrete core??:?

New Jack City
March 15th, 2004, 05:08 AM
Originally posted by Spank

Is it true that 7WTC is the first skyscraper in NYC to have a concrete core??:?

Sadly, yes that's true.

plotstyle
March 15th, 2004, 05:27 AM
i heard thats because the mafia control the concrete trucks any one confirm this???? :tongue:

dynamoultraclean
March 15th, 2004, 05:37 AM
Well part of the reason why the towers collapsed was because the steel frames melted and the building coud not support itself, so why is it sad that they take these precautions?

Anyways, I love the big one, not so sure about it's support acts though. They kinda look outta proportion compared to the girth and height of the big one.

Gendo
March 15th, 2004, 06:19 AM
Thanks for showing us the pics Carlos. :okay:

I think a steel reinforced concrete core with a steel lattice framework is the most efficient and best combined use of materials in most cases. 7 WTC is sure to be a splendid addition to Lower Manhattan.

Also, I don't believe 7 WTC is the first Concrete Core Tower in Manhattan. I remember seeing an apartment building (425 Fifth Avenue) constructed not too long ago that seems to have a concrete core and definately had a concrete frame, unless it is entirely supported by those Concrete Columns. However, it could be the first Office Tower to have a Concrete Core in NYC. Correct me if I'm wrong on this.

Here is a construction Photo of it taken on my birthday (the photo is not mine, but I'll host it), in 2002:

http://myweb.cableone.net/jpsltd/ssc/NYC-425fifth_esb_observatory_23march02.jpg

YAHRZEIT
March 15th, 2004, 12:25 PM
well to answer your question plotstyle yes they did control it even when they were building the wtc at the time i think really if they had the proper material the wtc would be still up bud!!!:D :colgate: ;)

7 World Trade
March 15th, 2004, 07:26 PM
i believe the concrete wall on the bottom portion of the building is the protect the future con ed substation, which will eventually feed power to western lower manhattan. and the last thing you want is the terrorists blowing something up in front of the building and cut off power to the wtc and create havoc.

i think the concrete's only going to go up to the floors where the substation are and the rest will be steel.

oh JPSLtd, for your information, that building's the Envoy, which is a residential tower (only the first 5 floors or something like that is offices)

finn
March 16th, 2004, 12:43 AM
Originally posted by Spank

Is it true that 7WTC is the first skyscraper in NYC to have a concrete core??:?

Hmmm, that's weird - here, even buildings with structural steel frames (and they are very few and far between) still have concrete cores.

Gulcrapek
March 16th, 2004, 04:06 AM
NYC office buildings all have steel frames and cores. This is the first with a concrete core.

However, most or all of its residential towers are concrete framed and cored (is that a word?).

Hardie
March 17th, 2004, 10:32 AM
Hi I'm from Perth Western Australia, thought I was the only nut-case into skyscrapers until I found this site.

Anyway, great to see WTC beginning to take shape.

We were all devastated here in Australia when 9/11 happened, hope the wounds are slowly beginning to heal and that the WTC landmark brings new hope and inspiration to New Yorkers:)

With you in Spirit from Land of OZ Downunder;)

freson
March 17th, 2004, 09:19 PM
Great pictures!
Here in Spain is really common the concrete core for ALL high-rises, I suppose is the cheapest and fastest way to build a building.
Normally steel structures are not built because of really stupid and restricted laws about fire security. But right now the composite structures are becoming more and more usual (concrete+steel)

Gendo
March 22nd, 2004, 05:36 AM
7 World Trade -- Thanks for clarifying the concrete issue. I wasn't sure if there were more residential towers in NYC like that.

Anyways, the photo I posted shall be a link from now on since the focus here should be on 7 WTC. ;)

Fragmentor
March 27th, 2004, 10:02 AM
I really dont think it matters if it has a concrete base. I think it shows real strength to rebuild this. Theyre effectively saying 'Terrorists wont stop us, well live our lives as normal' Theyre rising from the ashes as if theyre never to be beaten.

Good on you America!!

Monkey
April 3rd, 2004, 02:37 AM
It's so good to see Downtown getting rebuilt. When will work start on the Freedom Tower??

SkyDiveJunkee
April 4th, 2004, 06:37 AM
I just noticed this by looking at the pic of the Freedom tower with the Statue of Liberty, but is the Freedom tower suppose to resemble the Statue of Liberty in skyscraper form? If you look at them together, the spire seems like the torch, and the body of the skyscraper widens as it descends. I just sort of looks like it to me..if so, I appreciate this building SO much more...anyone know?

New Jack City
April 4th, 2004, 07:04 AM
It's so good to see Downtown getting rebuilt. When will work start on the Freedom Tower??

As of now it's scheduled to break ground in the summer and the first cornerstone is supposed to be layed down just in time for the Republican National Convention, coincidentally. ;)

New Jack City
April 4th, 2004, 07:06 AM
I just noticed this by looking at the pic of the Freedom tower with the Statue of Liberty, but is the Freedom tower suppose to resemble the Statue of Liberty in skyscraper form? If you look at them together, the spire seems like the torch, and the body of the skyscraper widens as it descends. I just sort of looks like it to me..if so, I appreciate this building SO much more...anyone know?

Yes, that was done intenionally, it was one of the concepts Libeskind first proposed and pushed to remain intact, which it has. It's supposed to be evocative of the raised torch of the Statue of Liberty.

Personally, I think it's horrible symbolism that just adds more constraints to the tower's design.

Mahaputra
April 4th, 2004, 04:28 PM
sorry.. but how tall is it going to be again??
and who's the architect??

New Jack City
April 4th, 2004, 06:16 PM
sorry.. but how tall is it going to be again??
and who's the architect??

Here's an image that displays the heights, sorry it's only in feet, here are the conversions:

2000 feet - 610 meters
1776 feet - 541 meters
1500 feet - 457 meters
1150 feet - 350 meters

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/savewtcgall/ft.jpg

(Note: the official counting height is 1776 feet/541 meters, that's how much it is to spire, 2000 feet/610 meters it to antenna which don't count in buildings heights.)

It's also occupied only up to 1150 feet/350 meters, but there's a planned observation deck at 1500 feet/350 meters within the lattice.

The main architect is David Childs of SOM, with somewhat of a collaboration with Daniel Libeskind.

TowersNYC
April 8th, 2004, 05:59 AM
I just noticed this by looking at the pic of the Freedom tower with the Statue of Liberty, but is the Freedom tower suppose to resemble the Statue of Liberty in skyscraper form? If you look at them together, the spire seems like the torch, and the body of the skyscraper widens as it descends. I just sort of looks like it to me..if so, I appreciate this building SO much more...anyone know?


HEY MAN!?!?! WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN?!?!?! WHY DO YOU THINK IT'S CALLED THE FREEDOM TOWER???

YES, it is intitionally supposed to resemble the Statue Of Liberty !!!!

crunch
April 8th, 2004, 08:19 AM
Man, it just gets uglier and uglier. I can't believe that they're actually going to put wind turbines in it. Some tower. It's embarrassing.

jockademus
April 8th, 2004, 05:58 PM
Whats with the 500ft antenna. This is plain cheating if its counted as the tallest building.

some_stupid_nut
April 8th, 2004, 06:08 PM
Is 7WTC a box? Or does it have angles that arent 90 degrees? I see renderings and pics and I cant tell.

909
April 8th, 2004, 07:21 PM
Is it true that 7WTC is the first skyscraper in NYC to have a concrete core??
I always thougt that Cityspire was entirely made out of concrete...

New Jack City
April 8th, 2004, 09:42 PM
Is 7WTC a box? Or does it have angles that arent 90 degrees? I see renderings and pics and I cant tell.

New 7 WTC is a parallelogram...

http://www.silversteinproperties.com/images/7wt_newmap.jpg

skyperu34
April 9th, 2004, 09:53 PM
excellent pics..........

RafflesCity
May 2nd, 2004, 11:10 PM
whats the latest?

New Jack City
May 3rd, 2004, 12:10 AM
Here's a picture from April 27th, taken by gripja.

http://home.att.net/~j.griepenburg/wsb/media/195277/site1023.jpg

New Jack City
May 5th, 2004, 09:01 PM
NY Times

Rising Above Ground Zero, Tower Slowly Takes Shape

http://graphics7.nytimes.com/images/2004/05/05/nyregion/05rebu.583.jpg

Rising Above Ground Zero, Tower Slowly Takes Shape

Already 314 feet tall, 7 World Trade Center is designed to reach 52 stories and 750 feet. A view from an upper floor shows some of the planned 1.7 million square feet of office space.

By DAVID W. DUNLAP
Published: May 5, 2004

After two and a half years of absence, there is a towering presence at ground zero.

That skyscraper of muscular concrete and sinewy steel on Vesey Street is not just overlooking the World Trade Center site, it is part of it. Building No. 7, the last tower lost on Sept. 11, 2001, is the first to be rebuilt. Its emergence has surprised out-of-towners and even New Yorkers who have not been to Lower Manhattan in a few months.

Now 314 feet tall, the building is destined to reach 52 stories and 750 feet. It will be sheathed in sheer, water-clear glass, with a kinetic, sculptural, stainless-steel wall by James Carpenter Design Associates around the Consolidated Edison substation at the base.

In a speech today, Gov. George E. Pataki is expected to announce that power will start flowing through the substation by the end of the month. After the speech, he will visit 7 World Trade Center.

(Mr. Pataki may also soon announce a chairman for the World Trade Center Site Memorial Foundation, which will oversee the creation of the memorial and the cultural center. One prominent name mentioned among the possible candidates is Sanford I. Weill, chairman and chief executive of Citigroup and chairman of Carnegie Hall.)

The governor's visit to 7 World Trade Center may be a tonic for the developer, Larry A. Silverstein, who has been fighting with his insurers over the main trade center site. He holds 99-year leases on both parcels from the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.

On Monday, a federal jury whittled Mr. Silverstein's total possible insurance claim to $4.68 billion, about $2.5 billion less than he sought. As his potential proceeds have shrunk, doubts have grown about Mr. Silverstein's ability to complete four more office buildings around the site, after the $700 million 7 World Trade Center and the $1 billion- to-$1.3-billion Freedom Tower, for which financing seems assured.

But Mr. Silverstein is no stranger to skepticism, since there were ample doubts last year that he would build 7 World Trade Center.

"I kept hearing and hearing that," he recalled in an interview Monday. "When I finally announced we had bought $60 million worth of steel, they still didn't believe. I think people finally changed their minds when the building reached 15 or 16 floors, and they said: 'You know what? He's doing it.' "

The structure is to pass the 615-foot mark in October, marking the moment when the new 7 World Trade Center exceeds the height of its shorter namesake, also built by Mr. Silverstein, where Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani had his emergency command center. This will occur around the 20th anniversary of the first groundbreaking.

Tishman Construction Corporation, which built the first No. 7, is building its replacement. Elio Cettina and Mike Pinelli are among the Tishman executives involved in both projects. And a number of ironworkers are reprising their roles, too, said Jack Klein, a vice president of Silverstein Development.

Seven World Trade Center is to be finished in late 2005 or early 2006, with 1.7 million square feet of office space. Apart from his own company, Silverstein Properties, Mr. Silverstein does not yet have tenants. But in the time-honored tradition of developers, he said there was "considerable interest," particularly now that there is a tower to see.

Already visible inside the tower is a hallmark of what is supposed to be its great durability and safety: a concrete core around the elevator shafts and fire stairs, two feet thick in most places. The stairways are ample, five and a half feet wide, and the landings are deep enough to fit a person in a wheelchair while others pass on the stairs.

"A firefighter carrying gear could walk up while people are walking down," said Nicholas Holt, an associate partner at Skidmore, Owings & Merrill, which designed 7 World Trade Center, working with the structural engineers at the Cantor Seinuk Group. (They are also Mr. Silverstein's architects on the Freedom Tower.)

The surprisingly spacious lobby, sandwiched between two banks of Con Ed transformer vaults, is framed by steel-jacketed columns five feet in diameter. Outside, Greenwich Street will be recreated as a driveway for taxis and limousines but not as a through street. Across the street, Mr. Silverstein will build a 12,500-square-foot public park designed by Ken Smith.

The principal art in the lobby will be a 12-foot-tall wall of glass and light-emitting diodes by James Carpenter and Jenny Holzer, an artist known for using epigrams in her work. "What we did insist upon was the choice of the words," Mr. Silverstein said. "I wanted something uplifting, positive; that talked about renewal, talked about America, talked about freedom, talked about what our values are about."

New Jack City
May 7th, 2004, 10:06 PM
I see a rendering of the new 7 WTC wasn't posted here, so here's some:

http://www.silversteinproperties.com/images/View1-day.jpg

Lobby:

http://www.silversteinproperties.com/images/7wt_newlobby.jpg

http://www.cgarchitect.com/upclose/JK/SOM-7WTC-02.jpg

http://www.silversteinproperties.com/images/7wt_dawn.jpg

http://www.silversteinproperties.com/images/7wt_core.jpg

http://www.silversteinproperties.com/images/7wt_elev.jpg

LibertyTwo
May 9th, 2004, 02:47 PM
Whats with the 500ft antenna. This is plain cheating if its counted as the tallest building.


From the same people who brought you, "Petronas is the new world's tallest, spires should count." Now bring you, "Freedom tower is cheating with the spire,it shouldn't count."

People in glass houses...or in this case, glass towers

RafflesCity
May 14th, 2004, 01:26 AM
thats a cool rendering. It looks a lot like the tallest building u/c in singapore at the moment.

7 World Trade
May 14th, 2004, 06:51 AM
wow, that's crazy safety features they are placing in the new building. but i gotta point out that they are sorta missing the point. old seven wtc was a safe building and it would of NEVER collapsed if the faulty electircal switches that controls the emergency generators turned them on after they shut down the con ed substation in the building. turning those emergency generators on caused the fuel stored in the basement of the building to flow into fuel pipes ruptured by debris flying into the building, and the huge fire pretty much just claimed the building. the fire's not caused by burning debris from the towers. if that's the case, then verizon, deutsche bank, 90 west, and 2&3 would of probably collapsed too. there's no way any skyscraper can survive a fire that big, even new seven.

hopefully they won't let that technical design fault happen again on the new one.

New Jack City
July 21st, 2004, 08:00 AM
Long overdue update for this thread, these are the most recent pictures I've seen, notice the facade is now visible...

http://dysphunxion.ath.cx/~nyc/9.jpg

http://dysphunxion.ath.cx/~nyc/10.jpg

http://dysphunxion.ath.cx/~nyc/18.jpg

7 World Trade
July 21st, 2004, 08:08 AM
haha...yeah, it's overdue for a new update all rite. what can i say, there's already another thread like this in the nyc section.

can't wait for more of the glass to be installed. then i'll make the final judgement on whether this building's cool or not.

it's sorta weird how you can see the lighter portions on verizon building's facade where the building was repaired from gashes made by wtc steel.

Mr Man
July 21st, 2004, 08:51 AM
I'm so proud that the rebuilding continues at the WTC. Thanks for the pics.

FM 2258
July 21st, 2004, 08:59 AM
Now if we could just get taller replicas of the old WTC 1 and 2 everything would be perfect. I think most here would agree.

Mr Man
July 21st, 2004, 09:12 AM
^ I do. That Freedom Tower is butt ugly, but public opinion does not seem to matter.

SJM
July 21st, 2004, 09:25 AM
I disagree, I am actually a fan of the Freedom Tower. Not that I didnt like the twin WTC towers. It's something that is going to restore New york's skyline and even make it better. The freedom tower will do just that. The design may not be the best, but we are talking about a 1,776ft tower. That is huge!!! Ill bet any money once this monster is built it will be a spectacle to see. :cheers:

http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v251/SJM87/freedomtower_empire1.jpg
http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v251/SJM87/freedomtower_night1.jpg

Sexas
July 21st, 2004, 09:41 AM
^ I do. That Freedom Tower is butt ugly, but public opinion does not seem to matter.

I agree with you and I just worry no company will move in... :-(

lokinyc
July 21st, 2004, 07:08 PM
Well, the Empire State building was nearly empty for years after it was finished.

Mr Man
July 21st, 2004, 07:55 PM
True, but I think we can all agree that the new World Trade Center is under slightly different circumstances.

skyperu34
July 21st, 2004, 11:10 PM
I disagree, I am actually a fan of the Freedom Tower. Not that I didnt like the twin WTC towers. It's something that is going to restore New york's skyline and even make it better. The freedom tower will do just that. The design may not be the best, but we are talking about a 1,776ft tower. That is huge!!! Ill bet any money once this monster is built it will be a spectacle to see. :cheers:

http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v251/SJM87/freedomtower_empire1.jpg
http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v251/SJM87/freedomtower_night1.jpg

I strongly agree with you!!!!!!!!!!!!

7 World Trade
July 22nd, 2004, 01:44 AM
still, the nyc downtown skyline will never be the same without twin towers dominating it (one building doesn't really seem to do justice for what we lost).

the freedom tower is never gonna be a spectacle imo with the cheap lattice and lame-o windmills inside. the least they can do is make those two building elements go...

FM 2258
July 22nd, 2004, 04:01 AM
still, the nyc downtown skyline will never be the same without twin towers dominating it (one building doesn't really seem to do justice for what we lost).

the freedom tower is never gonna be a spectacle imo with the cheap lattice and lame-o windmills inside. the least they can do is make those two building elements go...

I agree. Two SOLID strong looking buildings really represent New York City better than an enviromentally friendly, 70 story building with more than a third of the building dead an uninhabitable. I wish there was something we could do to get these back:

http://www.samsohojskole.dk/uploader/uploads/wtctwintower11.jpg
http://www.samsohojskole.dk/uploader/uploads/wtc_1.jpg


Now the current WTC 7 design looks good because I don't think many people outside of New York knew about it. It didn't have much of an impact obviously as the 1 and 2. The new WTC 7 doesn't stray away from the boxiness the old one had and I think the new one looks better than the old 7.

SJM
July 22nd, 2004, 05:00 AM
I think the new WTC will usher in a new direction of architecture for New York. So that NY can get away from the old traditional boxy look, like its starting to already. Theres going to be alot of buildings in New Yorks future, why keep pondering the loss when you can look to bigger and brighter things. Just my opinion :)


(one building doesn't really seem to do justice for what we lost).

Very true, but just look to the Empire State Building or the Chrysler building.

Rapid
July 22nd, 2004, 05:49 AM
i heard thats because the mafia control the concrete trucks any one confirm this???? :tongue:


This is not true

Since the capture and death of John Gotti, the mafia has tremendously lost everything, I heard.

7 World Trade
July 22nd, 2004, 07:44 PM
yeah, the mafia's day of high crime is gone (those dang crazy italians...). thank God.

SJM, i agree that the esb and chrysler looks good without a twin, but hey, the wtc site is meant to hold twin towers. and if there's only 1 tall building, the site won't look right. and new yorkers know that too. which is why during the beyer blinder belle building competitions, the only plan featuring twin towers was the least unpopular one, and in the 2nd round of designs, foster & partners, the only one to feature clean cut twin towers, was really high in popularity compared to the other plans. if you expect the new wtc to be popular, at least build something with twins.

SJM
July 22nd, 2004, 07:56 PM
Yeah I agree whole heartedly, we lost two massive twin towers and we should rebuild two. Maybe if they made the FT 2000ft high it would be like putting one on top of the other. :cheers:

New Jack City
September 14th, 2004, 03:37 AM
Long overdue update for this thread...

I decided to go down to the WTC site during one of my breaks today on 9/13, here are some pictures:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3188/24042004_0913Image0007.JPG

Lookin' lovely:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3188/24042004_0913Image0008.JPG

Facade closeup:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3188/24042004_0913Image0010.JPG

Sharp angle:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3188/24042004_0913Image0012.JPG

I thought it would be slimmer, it's pretty bulky:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3188/24042004_0913Image0013.JPG

Steel rising at 7 World Trade:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3188/24042004_0913Image0014.JPG

Looks pretty cool with the fence:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3188/24042004_0913Image0017.JPG

Reflected in the Millenium Hilton:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3188/24042004_0913Image0020.JPG

Standing Tall:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3188/24042004_0913Image0022.JPG

Facade view:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3188/24042004_0913Image0023.JPG

From the WFC:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3188/24042004_0913Image0029.JPG

LMDC President Kevin Rampe said a couple of days ago on TV that the building should be completed by late this year or early/mid next year.

thyrdrail
September 14th, 2004, 03:44 AM
7 WTC design is pretty uninnovative. just another glass box.

Chad
September 14th, 2004, 04:21 AM
How far it still has to grow before tops out?

Icanseeformiles
September 14th, 2004, 04:37 AM
yes but it is a fairly decent box and the facade is pleasing enough.
it's just good to see constuction there.

Ellatur
September 14th, 2004, 04:46 AM
7 WTC design is pretty uninnovative. just another glass box.

compared to the old 7 wtc, its awesome. and it will match with the other wtc complex. and its built by dave childs! who could argue with that!

New Jack City
September 14th, 2004, 05:29 AM
How far it still has to grow before tops out?

Around 7 or so floors remain left before it's topped out.

Fabian
September 14th, 2004, 12:45 PM
Great shots. It's a vast improvement on it's predecessor. The facade is coming along fairly nicely.

thyrdrail - It's not a box but a parallelogram.

FM 2258
September 14th, 2004, 01:11 PM
Wow, I love 7 WTC. I happen to love "boxy" buildings. Buidings with a flat top are my favorite and I love the glass color on this building.

At 750 ft (229 m) and 52 floors I'm pretty satisfied with this one.

DamienK
September 14th, 2004, 01:13 PM
Great pics! It's growing fast.

New Jack City
October 8th, 2004, 10:43 PM
Found these on pbase, dated October 4.

http://www.pbase.com/loansharkx/image/34772410/original.jpg

Impact in the skyline:

http://www.pbase.com/loansharkx/image/34772579/original.jpg

empersouf
October 8th, 2004, 11:39 PM
It's getting high.

SJM
October 9th, 2004, 05:55 AM
How many more floors until it tops out?

New Jack City
October 9th, 2004, 06:04 AM
How many more floors until it tops out?

It looks like they're working on the 52nd floor now (last office floor) then comes the crown, it shouldn't grow very much but it will grow taller than 3 World Financial Center (the tallest of the WFC bunch with the pyramid top.)

Ellatur
October 9th, 2004, 06:06 AM
cool

Trances
October 9th, 2004, 06:16 AM
yep great looking
Love the glass

New Jack City
October 23rd, 2004, 10:59 PM
OK, a bunch of info and updates to add to this thread. The tower is now topped out...

NY1

Seven World Trade Center To Be "Topped Out"

http://www.ny1.com/Content/images/live/70/139188.JPG

OCTOBER 21ST, 2004

Seven World Trade Center was the last building to collapse September 11, 2001, but it is the first to be rebuilt.

On Thursday, the 52-story skyscraper will be "topped out" – one month ahead of schedule and just 10 months after the first steel beam for the tenant floors went into place.

"It will be the first building rebuilt to show we are back stronger than ever in Lower Manhattan," said Governor George Pataki last December.

All of the major rebuilding players are expected to be in attendance to see the final steel beam ceremoniously raised into position.

The new building, which was designed by architect David Childs, is five stories taller than its predecessor but is skinnier. The first ten floors will be occupied by a Con Edison substation that provides power for the trade center site and parts of Lower Manhattan. The tenant floors begin on the 11th.

Although the building is expected to be complete by next year, an anchor tenant has not signed on the dotted line. Developer Larry Silverstein says he is not worried.

"We are talking now to a number of tenants," said Silverstein. "Now that the building is clearly happening and people begin to realize that this is going to be a fete accompli, and that it's a major and a significant building, the level of activity has increased significantly, which is very gratifying."

The new skyscraper is across the street from where the Freedom Tower will eventually rise. According to the developer, the two office towers will share sophisticated design features that will make the buildings safer.

"The life safety enhancements that we are building into Seven will be included in the Freedom Tower and in every one of the buildings to be built at the Trade Center," said Silverstein. "That's crucially important and considering what we learned on 9/11 that is the only way we would rebuild the Trade Center."

Some of those safety features include a two-foot concrete core that surrounds the elevator shafts and fire stairs. And those stairs are five and a half feet wide, with landings deep enough to fit a person in a wheelchair while keeping the flow of foot traffic moving.

It's a sign that some of the lessons learned will hopefully make the site a safer place.

Pics by Newsday of the topping out ceremony...

http://www.nynewsday.com/media/photo/2004-10/14754280.jpg
The last I beam is hoisted to the top of 7 World Trade Center Thursday, October 21, 2004, during the topping off ceremony in lower Manhattan.

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Construction workers applaud as the last I beam is hoisted to the top of 7 World Trade Center Thursday, October 21, 2004, at the topping off ceremony in lower Manhattan.

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Construction workers lean against the final steel beam before it is lifted into place at a topping out ceremony to mark completion of steel erection for 7 World Trade Center October 21, 2004 in New York City. The 52-story building is five stories taller than the original 7 World Trade Center which was destroyed in the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.

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Mayor Michael Bloomberg (L) and New York Governor George Pataki look on with construction workers at a topping out ceremony to mark completion of steel erection for 7 World Trade Center October 21, 2004 in New York City. The 52-story building is five stories taller than the original 7 World Trade Center

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(L-R) Silverstein Properties President Larry Silverstein, New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Silverstein Properties Vice President John Klein watch as the final steel beam is lifted into place at a topping out ceremony to mark completion of steel erection for 7 World Trade Center October 21, 2004 in New York City.

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Mayor Michael Bloomberg watches with construction workers as the final steel beam is lifted into place at a topping out ceremony to mark completion of steel erection for 7 World Trade Center October 21, 2004 in New York City.

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A makeshift memorial to a deceased firefighter is seen after the topping out ceremony to mark completion of steel erection for 7 World Trade Center (R) October 21, 2004 in New York City.

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Mayor Michael Bloomberg with construction workers as the final steel beam is lifted into place at a topping out ceremony to mark completion of steel erection for 7 World Trade Center

(Posted by yepole on Wired New York)

Setting up one window:

http://www.unwiredny.com/pictures.unwiredny.com/Constr_7WTC/00671a.gif

Found this at pbase, dated October 17, you can see the new 7 WTC at the lower left in the skyline:

http://www.pbase.com/d405/image/35343251/original.jpg

Bender
October 23rd, 2004, 11:29 PM
Next!

Patrick Highrise
October 24th, 2004, 12:55 AM
great pictures! :) Nice glass and good height! :)

SJM
October 24th, 2004, 12:55 AM
What do they plan on building after the 7wtc? The freedom tower or the other towers around it?

New Jack City
October 24th, 2004, 01:03 AM
What do they plan on building after the 7wtc? The freedom tower or the other towers around it?

Freedom tower is supposed to be next, then the others according to market demand.

Chad
October 24th, 2004, 04:24 AM
Gorgeous Tribune!!!

New Jack City
November 16th, 2004, 04:01 AM
Here are a few snaps from November 13, during the NYC Meet.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3196/24042004_1113Image0009.JPG

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3196/24042004_1113Image0012.JPG

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3196/24042004_1113Image0021.JPG

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3196/24042004_1113Image00181.JPG

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3196/24042004_1113Image0029.JPG

Patrick Highrise
November 16th, 2004, 10:16 AM
great pics Jack! Good to see also that you guys had good weather during the meet! :)

LeCom
November 24th, 2004, 04:07 AM
November 13, 2004

http://img130.exs.cx/img130/2699/DSCF0075-7wtc-uc-nov04-tothenortheast-small.jpg

http://img90.exs.cx/img90/8540/DSCF0076-7wtc-uc-nov04-tothenortheast-top-317903-small.jpg

http://img90.exs.cx/img90/9955/DSCF0077-7wtc-uc-nov04-woolworth-small.jpg

http://img90.exs.cx/img90/3301/DSCF0084-7wtc-uc-nov04-reflection-small.jpg

http://img90.exs.cx/img90/1148/DSCF0096-7wtc-uc-nov04-tothenortheast-small.jpg

http://img90.exs.cx/img90/4156/DSCF0100-7wtc-uc-nov04-tothenorth-small.jpg

http://img90.exs.cx/img90/2051/DSCF0102-7wtc-uc-nov04-tothenorth-barclay-vesey-small.jpg

http://img90.exs.cx/img90/4677/DSCF0103-7wtc-uc-nov04-barclay-vesey-wfc-small.jpg

http://img90.exs.cx/img90/5260/DSCF0023-7wtc-uc-nov04-frombwfc-317902-small.jpg

Bonus pic of Ground Zero, the site of FT
http://img90.exs.cx/img90/218/DSCF0089-groundzero-nov04-frombridge-small.jpg

Icanseeformiles
November 24th, 2004, 05:59 AM
Warms The Heart

Sy
November 27th, 2004, 06:50 PM
Good to see progress there.

sam_L
November 28th, 2004, 02:06 PM
oooh it's looking very nice! Is this the same cladding (or similar maybe) to that which is going to be used on Freedom Tower?

Esaminare il Futuro
December 12th, 2004, 01:10 PM
Extraordinary!! New York still remains the good taste skyscrapers city!!Since the beggining of the 20th century! Shangai or Hong kong can`t reach the level of taste of NY!!

Islander
December 12th, 2004, 05:03 PM
Is this the same cladding (or similar maybe) to that which is going to be used on Freedom Tower?
Similar: definately. Same: probably.

7 World Trade
December 16th, 2004, 02:47 AM
it'll be similar in terms of material. but if the current design holds, then the freedom towers will consist of a glass curtain wall with diamond-shaped frame framing the building on all sides, which will definitely be different from new 7's facade.

besides, im thinking that the buildings in the new wtc complex will look quite different from new 7, especially with the possibility of other architects playing a role in building the other buildings.

so, at the end, i think new 7 will wind up becoming like old 7: it won't really look like it's part of the wtc complex. instead, it'll look like it's just another skyscraper that just happens to be next to the new wtc complex.

Islander
January 3rd, 2005, 12:26 AM
Update:

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/532/49787wtc010205.jpg

Tom_Green
January 3rd, 2005, 01:03 AM
The building is boring. It has nothing special, just a wall of glas.
It would be better it they build something as special as Conde Nast.
This is a building with a face.

BoresvilleMcYawn
January 3rd, 2005, 01:27 AM
It's a little boring,but pretty imo.

Hobodog
January 3rd, 2005, 01:30 AM
Just pretty...a good financial state...do remember that this will be next to what should be quite the striking building thus this building may be designed not to draw attention away.

THT-United
January 3rd, 2005, 08:05 AM
Nice... The new 7WTC looks much better than the old one..

Somehow it reminds me of Cheung Kong Center in HK... Maybe due to the boxiness...

SUNNI
January 3rd, 2005, 08:26 AM
Extraordinary!! New York still remains the good taste skyscrapers city!!Since the beggining of the 20th century! Shangai or Hong kong can`t reach the level of taste of NY!!
i disagree, i think HongKong has already overtaken NYC....just my opinion

rachnyc
January 3rd, 2005, 12:30 PM
Its an awsome building and i love the facade.

eXSBass
January 3rd, 2005, 04:21 PM
http://cakeru.image.pbase.com/image/34772579/original.jpg
http://home.att.net/~j.griepenburg/wsb/media/195277/site1023.jpg

That building with the triangle roof looks alot like London's Canary Wharf. What is that building?

Canary Wharf

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/rotpics01/onecanadasq01.jpeg

Islander
January 3rd, 2005, 04:36 PM
They were both designed by Ceaser Pelli, which explains the resemblance. The one in Manhattan is called 3 World Financial Center and was built a few years before 1 Canada Square.

LeCom
January 4th, 2005, 05:59 AM
December 29, 2004

http://img145.exs.cx/img145/5301/dscf00087wtcucdec04tothenortht.jpg

http://img134.exs.cx/img134/2849/dscf00097wtcucdec04tothenorthm.jpg

New Jack City
May 8th, 2005, 07:20 AM
Update on a gray cloudy day, May 8...

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3223/2404Mets_Good_Seats_033.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3223/2404Mets_Good_Seats_034.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3223/2404Mets_Good_Seats_035.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3223/2404Mets_Good_Seats_040.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3223/2404Mets_Good_Seats_044.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/3223/2404Mets_Good_Seats_043.jpg

Islander
May 8th, 2005, 07:23 AM
^Cool angles.

Here's another.

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/532/49787wtc_050705.jpg

chex
May 9th, 2005, 08:50 AM
very nice pix and angles, tower is looking good, tanx!

Wssps
May 14th, 2005, 09:44 PM
Extraordinary!! New York still remains the good taste skyscrapers city!!Since the beggining of the 20th century! Shangai or Hong kong can`t reach the level of taste of NY!!

I agree!! very nice building!!!

yung85
May 15th, 2005, 12:22 AM
i'm sorry but new york towers r just so ugly... americans really have not taste... just like their fashion

nygirl
May 15th, 2005, 12:39 AM
o man ur gonna get so flamed for that

nygirl
May 15th, 2005, 12:40 AM
welcome to the forums by the way try hard not to troll, gotta resist those urges.

Jose Luis
May 15th, 2005, 01:21 AM
at first it looked a little bit boring to me, but looking closer you found its beauty and its classy style also.

Urban Dave
May 15th, 2005, 02:05 AM
A nice glass box! :)

spicytimothy
May 15th, 2005, 02:25 AM
just a plain old box... disappointing for such a hyped location :-(

superchan7
May 15th, 2005, 02:44 AM
With this relatively simple design, let's hope the rest of the WTC towers draw good attention back to downtown.

zulu69
May 15th, 2005, 04:06 AM
Man talk about today's society. Its simple and elegant. Great finish and nice height.
But people nowadays want a building to have lasers shooting out, with neon outlines and perhaps even a spire or two. (= tacky)
Not only does this building look great, it is very elegant in its simplicity. NY after all these years retains its class.

btw it isn't a box, its more like a rectangle :cheers:

Urban Dave
May 15th, 2005, 11:11 AM
Not every building should have an spectacular design. If it would be, we won't apreciate the great and original building. A simple design, don't have to be crap. Just this building, a simple design is elegant and fits well to the city.

Grygry
May 18th, 2005, 07:30 AM
With this relatively simple design, let's hope the rest of the WTC towers draw good attention back to downtown.
Well, it's unfinished yet (the roof is biased ...) and with the others new building around I think the grape is gonna look pretty cool.

JohnnyMass
May 18th, 2005, 07:56 AM
almost done!!!!:okay:

TowersNYC
May 30th, 2005, 12:24 AM
Latest look

http://www.svmetro.com/photos/nyc-2005-05-23-small/nyc-2005-05-23-small-Images/13.jpg





photo by Lucius Kwok

TowersNYC
May 30th, 2005, 12:26 AM
http://www.svmetro.com/photos/nyc-2005-05-23-small/nyc-2005-05-23-small-Images/14.jpg




photo by Lucius Kwok

beiklopa
May 30th, 2005, 04:27 AM
Beautiful:) Just gives me this great feeling of walking on the street , listening to Norah Jones "Sunrise" and enjoyin the morning clear blue sky:)Beautiful tower 9/10

chex
May 30th, 2005, 05:06 AM
wow! looks great, excelent shots!!!! thanx!

Gendo
May 30th, 2005, 06:22 AM
Simple, sleek, and elegant. I can't wait to see that crown lit up at night.

Barsby
May 30th, 2005, 07:23 AM
a fitting replacement for the old 7 WTC, even better in my opinion :) looks awesome, is this building now the tallest in WTC precinct?

TowersNYC
May 30th, 2005, 07:25 AM
^ yes
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/nyctowers/7-wtc-1024.jpg


photo bu lucius kwok

Barsby
May 30th, 2005, 07:56 AM
well i love it, was it designed to fit in with the freedom tower? or just has its own design?

TowersNYC
May 30th, 2005, 07:58 AM
well i love it, was it designed to fit in with the freedom tower? or just has its own design?

This one was designed BEFORE that stupid freedom tower rejected plan! thank GOD.

TICONLA1
May 30th, 2005, 08:50 AM
just a plain old box... disappointing for such a hyped location :-(


Well, this tower was built in what is known as the"fasttrack" method of construction, with the exception of the intergration of the Con. Ed. substation within it's lower floors, and the special slipforming of the core after the steel erection, (I believe it followed the steel erection six to eight floors below.) and a new light reflective type window spanderel in the cladding system, there is nothing else special about this building, "FastTrack" construction in part means that every floor is typical to the next, with no special steel framing, or structural modification, to any given floor, (in this case we exclude the first 11 floors for ConEd.) this method speed's up actual construction time, saving on material/labor cost's.

I believe the thinking behind this building was "let's at least get one tower up as fast as possible" and yes , for a skyscraper that is more or less of a standardized nature, it is an impressive office tower, (Though to me more so in what it represents, than in how it look's.) On a scale of 1 to 10 i give it an 8.


The only complaint that i have, is that at least two other new WTC buildings, (or office towers) should already be rising, or at least coming out of the ground by now..!!!!!.

Urban Dave
May 30th, 2005, 09:18 AM
Looks great!:)

New York Yankee
May 30th, 2005, 04:23 PM
a fitting replacement for the old 7 WTC, even better in my opinion :) looks awesome, is this building now the tallest in WTC precinct?

he's taller than the old one!!!

TowersNYC
May 30th, 2005, 05:24 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/nyctowers/7-wtc-1024.jpg

Accura4Matalan
May 30th, 2005, 06:04 PM
Stunning building!

Enoch Root
May 30th, 2005, 06:08 PM
Wow, I like this building very much.

TICONLA1
May 30th, 2005, 06:25 PM
he's taller than the old one!!!


Yes indeed; old 7, 47 floors, I believe around 547'.

And new 7, 55 floors, at 755' (most of the first 11 floors, given to ConEd. sub station.)

And yes, a most fitting replacement for the original, as far as the tallest in the immediate WTC area, (don't quote me on this) I think it's a touch taller than One Liberty, (50 storys) and around the same height as the American Express tower, (the tallest in the World Finacial Center at 50 storys) The only other building that is taller is the Chase Manhatten Bank tower, (60 storys, and just over 800' tall.) but she's about three or four blocks to the east !.

malec
May 30th, 2005, 06:28 PM
Wow! It's tall, it's sleek and it's modern. :)
Great looking tower!!

B@dGuYoM
May 30th, 2005, 07:19 PM
very nice cladding