Its here once again, enjoy.:cheers:

SEC-SEC-SEC

TEXAS LONGHONRS IN 2009!

HOOK -EM & TEXAS FIGHT!


Most Winning College Football Programs as of 2009:
1. Michigan: 872-297-38
2. Texas: 832-320-34
3. Notre Dame: 831-285-42
4. Nebraska: 827-337-41
5. Ohio State: 808-306-53
6. Penn State 801-349-43
7. Alabama: 799-316-43
8. Oklahoma: 788-300-53
9. Tennessee: 776-327-55
10. USC: 765-303-54

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HOOK 'EM

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Just the local talk show here said. Everybody who does that sounds like an idiot. Ohhh, let's cheer for our conference instead of a team.

That is like saying, if you are an Indy Colts fan and you go AFC South, AFC South. You sound like an idiot.

HOOK 'EM

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TEXAS LONGHONRS IN 2009!

HOOK -EM & TEXAS FIGHT!


Most Winning College Football Programs as of 2009:
1. Michigan: 872-297-38
2. Texas: 832-320-34
3. Notre Dame: 831-285-42
4. Nebraska: 827-337-41
5. Ohio State: 808-306-53
6. Penn State 801-349-43
7. Alabama: 799-316-43
8. Oklahoma: 788-300-53
9. Tennessee: 776-327-55
10. USC: 765-303-54


That is nice. Talk about something that really matters:


NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS
Notre Dame 8
USC 7
Oklahoma 7
Alabama 7
Ohio State 5
Nebraska 5
Miami 5
Texas 4
Minnesota 4
LSU 3

Just the local talk show here said. Everybody who does that sounds like an idiot. Ohhh, let's cheer for our conference instead of a team.

That is like saying, if you are an Indy Colts fan and you go AFC South, AFC South. You sound like an idiot.

I disagree, as an Alabama fan I cheer for other SEC schools when they play non-conf games, just like ill be cheering for UGA when they take on OK State, or LSU vs UW. Its called conference pride.

NCAA says Julio Jones and Mark Ingram can play as long as they pay
Posted by Don Kausler Jr. -- The Birmingham News September 02, 2009 7:00 PM

TUSCALOOSA - As long as Julio Jones and Mark Ingram pay, they can play.
That was the ruling that the NCAA announced Wednesday evening. The organization said the sophomore starters on Alabama's football team will remain eligible on the condition of repayment for "impermissible benefits" they received.

The NCAA is requiring Jones and Ingram to repay the value of the benefits to charity.

Jones, a star wide receiver, and Ingram, the starting running back, took a fishing trip in the spring that was paid for by an Athens businessman.

Alabama investigated the case and concluded that the businessman, 56-year-old Curtis Anderson, is not an Alabama booster. The university self-reported the violation to the Southeastern Conference.

The NCAA announced its decision in a four-paragraph statement early Wednesday evening:

The NCAA student-athlete reinstatement staff has reinstated the eligibility of University of Alabama football student-athletes Julio Jones and Mark Ingram based on a condition of repayment.

"According to the facts of the case submitted by Alabama, the student-athletes received impermissible food, lodging, transportation and entertainment from an individual with whom one of the student-athletes had become acquainted prior to enrolling in college.

"Consistent with NCAA membership requirements, the institution reported the violation and declared the student-athletes ineligible. As part of the reinstatement request, the institution required the student-athletes to make repayment of the value of the impermissible benefits to charity.

"During the reinstatement process, the NCAA staff considers a number of factors including guidelines established by the NCAA Division I Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement, relevant case precedent, the student-athlete's responsibility for the violation, as well as any mitigating factors presented by the institution."

Alabama athletic director Mal Moore said Alabama officials "are gratified that this matter has been resolved."

"Our compliance department, the SEC and the NCAA worked closely throughout this process," Moore said in a written statement issued by the media relations staff, "and we appreciate the professional manner in which it was handled."

Anxiety about the eligibility of Jones and Ingram was beginning to rise with each day as Saturday's season opener against seventh-ranked Virginia Tech drew closer.

Alabama coach Nick Saban spoke twice about the case Wednesday, but both times were before the NCAA announced its ruling.

Saban was asked Wednesday morning if Alabama did not get a ruling from the NCAA by Saturday, did he plan to sit the two starters out of the 7 p.m. game in Atlanta?

"I think that is up to the NCAA," Saban said on the first of what will be a weekly Southeastern Conference teleconference with reporters. "It's not my decision to do anything.

"We're hoping for a response," Saban said. "We want to do what we need to do to do things the right way from a program standpoint and for the players' best interests. The institution has handled the situation with tremendous integrity. We're hopeful that we will have some sort of resolution in the short term."

Saban did not want to discuss what sitting Jones and Ingram down would mean to the Alabama offense.

"I'm not really into speculating on what might be," Saban said. "I've got enough problems with what is. So let's just focus on what is right now."

Saban repeated many of these comments during his opening statement to the news media following Wednesday's practice.

Alabama announces 2010 football schedule, will play host to Penn State
Posted by Don Kausler Jr. -- The Birmingham News September 02, 2009 2:40 PM

The marquee home game against Penn State is the highlight of a 2010 football schedule that the University of Alabama announced today.
The Crimson Tide also will play nonconference games against San Jose State, Duke and Georgia State,

The San Jose State game will be the season opener on Sept. 4 in expanded Bryant-Denny Stadium.

The Penn State game is scheduled for Sept. 11.

Duke will be a Sept. 18 road game. Georgia Statewhich will visit Tuscaloosa on Nov. 20,, is coached by former Alabama coach Bill Curry.

Florida is among the Southeastern Conference teams that will visit Bryant-Denny Stadium.

As it will be this year, the Auburn game will be played on a Friday (Nov. 26), this time at Bryant-Denny Stadium.

The open date is on Oct. 30.

The complete schedule:

9/4 SAN JOSE STATE
9/11 PENN STATE
9/18 at Duke
9/25 at Arkansas
10/2 FLORIDA
10/9 at South Carolina
10/16 OLE MISS
10/23 at Tennessee
10/30 open
11/6 at LSU
11/13 MISSISSIPPI STATE
11/20 GEORGIA STATE
11/26 AUBURN

The National Championship game has been around since 1998: Since then the SEC has dominated.

SEC= 5-0
Big 12= 2-4
ACC= 1-2
Big East= 1-2
Big Ten= 1-2
Pac 10= 1-1

The SEC has the best fans and most electric stadiums in the entire country. The SEC has led the nation in attendance for 25 straight years!!!!

After this year it will be 26.

SEC! SEC! SEC! SEC! SEC! SEC!

Just the local talk show here said. Everybody who does that sounds like an idiot. Ohhh, let's cheer for our conference instead of a team.

That is like saying, if you are an Indy Colts fan and you go AFC South, AFC South. You sound like an idiot.

Well, your local talk show hosts are idiots (and apparently haters).

Every year news columnists from other parts of the country write columns (have already read one from Big 12 and ACC country this year) trying to compare themselves to the SEC in football. Much like they thought last year the Big 12 thinks they are actually going to be better this year :lol:.

The SEC-SEC-SEC chant is just the fans and the players (LSU players did it on ESPN after winning the title a couple years ago) way of telling the rest of the country to kiss our ass.

We hate each other when we are playing each other, but nobody else in the country can mess with us.

That is nice. Talk about something that really matters:


NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS
Notre Dame 8
USC 7
Oklahoma 7
Alabama 7
Ohio State 5
Nebraska 5
Miami 5
Texas 4
Minnesota 4
LSU 3

At least you're not one of those OU fans that like to throw 1970 in our face (even though that does indeed count lol). Hope to get that number to 5 this season. I thought USC and Alabama only have 6.

I disagree, as an Alabama fan I cheer for other SEC schools when they play non-conf games, just like ill be cheering for UGA when they take on OK State, or LSU vs UW. Its called conference pride.

I guess. But as a Texas fan. May I say, to hell with OU, Tech, A&M, OSU, Colorado, ISU, Kansas, Missouri, KSU, and Baylor. I tend to root for Nebraska football sometimes. Love their fans. But I cheer for Texas to succeed, not the big 12 to succeed. I could care less if the other teams go winless. They have no bearing on what Texas accomplishes. That's like me as a Cowboy fan rooting for the Redskins, Giants, and Eagles because the NFC East historically has been the best division in the super bowl era. You won't see me going around saying NFC East, NFC East, NFC East. And yes, people have compared themselves to the NFC East and we still don't give a shit about them or each other.

I just found it hilarious that when Florida won the national championship, you had Ole Miss and Auburn fans acting like they won the championship with them and talking shit to OU fans like they have accomplished the same thing.:lol: If OU won, you wouldn't see Texas or Tech or OSU fans talking shit to Florida like that. That's just me or should I say, the rest of the country ,though. BTW, I do acknowledge that the SEC is the best conference year in and year out.

I guess. But as a Texas fan. May I say, to hell with OU, Tech, A&M, OSU, Colorado, ISU, Kansas, Missouri, KSU, and Baylor. I tend to root for Nebraska football sometimes. Love their fans. But I cheer for Texas to succeed, not the big 12 to succeed. I could care less if the other teams go winless. They have no bearing on what Texas accomplishes. That's like me as a Cowboy fan rooting for the Redskins, Giants, and Eagles because the NFC East historically has been the best division in the super bowl era. You won't see me going around saying NFC East, NFC East, NFC East. And yes, people have compared themselves to the NFC East and we still don't give a shit about them or each other.

I just found it hilarious that when Florida won the national championship, you had Ole Miss and Auburn fans acting like they won the championship with them and talking shit to OU fans like they have accomplished the same thing.:lol: If OU won, you wouldn't see Texas or Tech or OSU fans talking shit to Florida like that. That's just me or should I say, the rest of the country ,though. BTW, I do acknowledge that the SEC is the best conference year in and year out.

Comparing college conferences to NFL divisons is pretty dumb.The NFL has a playoff so divison strength doesn't mean much. College conference strength is very important b/c it is a beauty pagent. See Utah from last year. If Utah had played in the SEC, Pac 10, or Big 12 they would have been in the national championship game. Or USC from last year who had the same record as Florida. The Pac 10 had a down year last year so UF got the nod. over USC.

As long as strength of schedule is important in college football then conference play is very important. Comparing it to the NFL is very stupid.

SEC! SEC! SEC! SEC! SEC! SEC! SEC! SEC!

At least you're not one of those OU fans that like to throw 1970 in our face (even though that does indeed count lol). Hope to get that number to 5 this season. I thought USC and Alabama only have 6.

He's right Alabama has 7 AP and UPI national titles
AP: 1961, 1964, 1965, 1979, 1992
UPI: 1973, 1978

USC
AP: 1962, 1967, 1972, 2003, 2004
UPI: 1974, 1978

Boomer Sooner all effin day long.

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UNC = University of National Champions

GO HEELS GO! :)

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LSU!!!!

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OU has had 5 straight bowl losses and 3 have been title games!I'm just hoping to turn this crap around! those 7 national titles could have been # 8,9,10 but,We(OU) cant get out of this rut!here are some fun facts about Sooner football!!!!! 47 game winning streak is the longest D-1 streak of all time!!!!most winning program since WWII(1950)!!!BOOMER SOONER!!!!!

OU has had 5 straight bowl losses and 3 have been title games!I'm just hoping to turn this crap around! those 7 national titles could have been # 8,9,10 but,We(OU) cant get out of this rut!here are some fun facts about Sooner football!!!!! 47 game winning streak is the longest D-1 streak of all time!!!!most winning program since WWII(1950)!!!BOOMER SOONER!!!!!

Maybe OU should play Ohio State in a BCS bowl this year. This way one of these teams can end their current BCS losing streak.

Well I've always had respect for UT-Norman as a school, but when it comes to football:

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bevo burgers are good! TUCK FEXAS!!!!!!!

They're really good at Meers.

An un-Spurrier like win for South Carolina last night. Does anyone else think this might be the beginning of his farewell tour???.

Comparing college conferences to NFL divisons is pretty dumb.The NFL has a playoff so divison strength doesn't mean much. College conference strength is very important b/c it is a beauty pagent. See Utah from last year. If Utah had played in the SEC, Pac 10, or Big 12 they would have been in the national championship game. Or USC from last year who had the same record as Florida. The Pac 10 had a down year last year so UF got the nod. over USC.

As long as strength of schedule is important in college football then conference play is very important. Comparing it to the NFL is very stupid.

SEC! SEC! SEC! SEC! SEC! SEC! SEC! SEC!

You took my quote and my post out of context. I was not comparing the strengths of divisions in the NFL to conferences in College Football. I was comparing the so called pride's of each division. Yes I know it's "very" stupid and dumb which is why I didn't compare them. That still doesn't change the fact that at least from my observation that this "SEC, SEC, SEC" thing is silly.

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When you look at the big picture of college football since 1936, no program has achieved greatness as consistently as Oklahoma. We didn't even count the fact that Oklahoma owns the longest win streak in FBS history (47) or leads the nation with a .765 winning percentage since World War II. The 1956 Oklahoma team catapulted the Sooners past Notre Dame to the top of the Prestige Rankings, and it's been in the top spot ever since. OU's seven national titles have spanned four decades. The Sooners have finished in the final poll's top 5 an astounding 29 times. But the real fuel for OU's rise to the top of our rankings has been its conference dominance. The Sooners finished the regular season with at least a share of their conference's best record a stunning 39 times, seven more than any other program in the country.

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All time record:
Texas 57--Oklahoma 40-- Tie 5:banana:

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Top 10 Largest College Football Stadiums:
1. Beaver Stadium- Penn State- 107,282
2. Michigan Stadium- Michigan- 106,201
3. Ohio Stadium- Ohio State-102,329
4. DKR Texas Memorial Stadium- Texas- 100,119
5. Neyland Stadium- Tennessee- 100,011
6. LA Memorial Coliseum- USC- 93,607
7. Stanford Stadium- Georgia-92,746
8. Rose Bowl- UCLA- 92,542
9. Tiger Stadium- LSU- 92,400
10. Cotton Bowl- Dallas- 92,200

OU not even in the top 15...

Did anyone catch the OU vs BSU game? So ugly... but it won't be as ugly as the LSU vs Washington game.

jjsheed? all that BS! and still only 4 natl. titles for texass? whats up with that? your claim to fame is having a series edge on your rival! but OU has 7 natl. titles and your playing catch-up!!!What is more important? more wins vs. your rival or 3 more natl titles and more conf titles? just wondering?

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All time record:
Texas 57--Oklahoma 40-- Tie 5:banana:

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Top 10 Largest College Football Stadiums:
1. Beaver Stadium- Penn State- 107,282
2. Michigan Stadium- Michigan- 106,201
3. Ohio Stadium- Ohio State-102,329
4. DKR Texas Memorial Stadium- Texas- 100,119
5. Neyland Stadium- Tennessee- 100,011
6. LA Memorial Coliseum- USC- 93,607
7. Stanford Stadium- Georgia-92,746
8. Rose Bowl- UCLA- 92,542
9. Tiger Stadium- LSU- 92,400
10. Cotton Bowl- Dallas- 92,200

OU not even in the top 15...

I feel almost honored that OU bashing is a regular part of Whorns hoopla. :)

We'll let our performance as the #1 team in ESPN's prestige rankings speak for itself. No other program is as consistently top-notch as OU. Boomer Sooner!

Wow!! OU looked horrible tonight! Bradford is injured, and it looks like the Sooners have got some serious issues!!!!0-1 to start the season

Wow!! OU looked horrible tonight! Bradford is injured, and it looks like the Sooners have got some serious issues!!!!0-1 to start the season

And to think Big Lame Bob Stoops got a raise this year. What a joke. I wish I could choke a pivotal huge moment in my job and get a huge raise. I will say it, Bobby Stoops is overrated.

Texas looked great tonight, and a new record attendance was set for DKR Memorial Stadium 101,096- very impressive! 6th street was rocking tonight!

ou (as usual) embarrassed the Big 12 Conference on a nationally televised game! Oh, and thanks Oklahoma fans for coming down to Dallas and spending your money in our state! Did you enjoy the new stadium? See you in October...

HOOK EM!

SOONER DOWN, SOONER DOWN!

3 losses for OU this year?

Texas looked great tonight, and a new record attendance was set for DKR Memorial Stadium 101,096- very impressive! 6th street was rocking tonight!

ou (as usual) embarrassed the Big 12 Conference on a nationally televised game! Oh, and thanks Oklahoma fans for coming down to Dallas and spending your money in our state! Did you enjoy the new stadium? See you in October...

HOOK EM!

There are more OU grads in Dallas than there are UT grads.

Texas looked great tonight, and a new record attendance was set for DKR Memorial Stadium 101,096- very impressive! 6th street was rocking tonight!

ou (as usual) embarrassed the Big 12 Conference on a nationally televised game! Oh, and thanks Oklahoma fans for coming down to Dallas and spending your money in our state! Did you enjoy the new stadium? See you in October...

HOOK EM!

^^^^congrats on your win vs. listerine state!:nuts:

Hey come on, everyone knows that the University of Louisiana at Monroe Warhawks are a ferocious contender and a highly-coveted team to schedule.

There are more OU grads in Dallas than there are UT grads.

yep, just goes to show you, OU grads would rather be in Texas than in Oklahoma....

Well obviously OKC and Tulsa are pretty crimson as well.

SEC-SEC-SEC

#13 Georgia 10, #9 OSU 24 (we're #6 in SI)

Big 12 - Big 12 - Big 12

It looks like this season will be a wonderful thing for Cowboys fans. In fact, every Big 12 team won this wknd.. oh except OU of course. LOL. OSU-Texas will be the deciding game for the Big 12 championship. We get 'em in Stillwater AND on Halloween so that's also going to be another huge game.

The new Boone Pickens Stadium:

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The nation's largest student union and Oklahoma's largest library:
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Go Pokes!

Thank you VA Tech for giving us a better game than your counterpart Clemson, but as usual the result remains the same...another win for Alabama.

The new Boone Pickens Stadium looked very small on TV. It's a shame that a ranked team like Georgia (even though they are the 5th best SEC team) comes in for the first game and the game doesn't even sell out.

The new Boone Pickens Stadium looked very small on TV. It's a shame that a ranked team like Georgia (even though they are the 5th best SEC team) comes in for the first game and the game doesn't even sell out.

^^^^^^The Boone is very small, as far as capacity goes! its like half the seating capacity of Neyland or the big house or any 100k stadium! but what you didnt see is the upgrades to the locker rooms workout facilities and so on! top notch all the way! there supposed to have a better locker room than some NFL teams!

The OK State win was impressive, but you were the favorite to win and the UGA is down this year. I want to see more SEC-BIG 12 matchups.

uga is down this year? still a top 15 team with a history of being a powerhouse and one of the top coaches. it isn't very often before conference play that you see top teams and top coaches battle it out.

as for the boone, it's small for a big 12 stadium, but it's still the best college football facility in the nation. and the capacity is not half the size of neyland or the big house .. it seats 60,200 people plus another 4,000 club seats. in fact the suites and club-level seats are one of the main features. the locker rooms, training facilities, and other things inside the stadium blow away any other facility in the country and it will just get better once they break ground on the new $50 million practice facility (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherman_E._Smith_Training_Center).

as for it not being sold out, that was an athletic dept policy issue.. the a.d. decided to not sell any tickets to the georgia game, forcing everyone to have to buy season tickets. so when they say that 55,000 tickets were sold..that means osu sold 55,000 season tickets. besides osu is in a town of 50,000 people smack between oklahoma city and tulsa and osu only has 25,000 students at the stillwater campus, unlike ut or a&m. the town basically doubles in size for osu games. they will sell tickets to all the other games so expect sellouts for future games.

here's some pics i took of the festivities surrounding the opening of the game. 'the walk' is a stillwater tradition of everyone walking across campus. then t. boone came out and spoke, as did mike gundy (who is 42 this year).

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and here's a night aerial of it when it was just completed earlier this month:
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i agree with stuck in bama. i really want to see more sec-big 12 match ups as well. i'm tired of schools playing ridiculously lowly teams and it serves ou right to lose to byu if that's the toughest team they'll schedule.

SRG: "There are more OU grads in Dallas than there are UT grads."


And where did you get that info?

^^^^^^The Boone is very small, as far as capacity goes! its like half the seating capacity of Neyland or the big house or any 100k stadium! but what you didnt see is the upgrades to the locker rooms workout facilities and so on! top notch all the way! there supposed to have a better locker room than some NFL teams!

I saw the upgrades and they look nice. Boone has a ton of luxury suites for a smaller stadium. They have more than most of the stadiums that have a capactiy of more than 90,000.

Nice win overall though. Now follow it up this year with a win over OU or Texas.



but it's still the best college football facility in the nation.



Easy now. It looks good but it is not the best. Check out this video of Oregon's facilities. They are ridiculous.


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Thank you VA Tech for giving us a better game than your counterpart Clemson, but as usual the result remains the same...another win for Alabama.

Great game against you guys as well... your boys wore ours down in the end. Good luck with the rest of the season... I do like Florida but I won't be mad if you guys take the SEC title.

What in the world are y'all feeding your running backs though???? Especially Upchurch! :shocked:

I saw the upgrades and they look nice. Boone has a ton of luxury suites for a smaller stadium. They have more than most of the stadiums that have a capactiy of more than 90,000.

Nice win overall though. Now follow it up this year with a win over OU or Texas.



Easy now. It looks good but it is not the best. Check out this video of Oregon's facilities. They are ridiculous.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q84sNjkVKzs

how are those facilities supposed to be nicer than ours? for one that film spent 2 minutes talking about nike shoes and another minute talking about him having an xbox.

i don't think you all understand how a $284 million stadium is by far the best collegiate facility in the nation as well as the best athletic facility in the entire state of oklahoma. autzen stadium, with 55,000 seats, was renovated in 2002 for $80 million and it's probably the only facility that comes close to being as nice as the boone. arkansas also did an impressive job renovating their old stadium in '01 at a cost of $110 million (and took it from 51,000 seats to 76,000 and gave it a new modern look).

to put it into better perspective, other brand new stadiums: central florida's new 54,000 seat stadium that opened in '07 cost $54 million (1/6th the cost of the boone). uconn opened a new 45,000 seat stadium in '03 for $91 million. utah spent $27 million on a new 45,000 seat stadium that opened 10 years ago. the pittsburgh steelers' new stadium, heinz field, seats 65,000 and cost $281 million which is still less than the boone.

so yes, with seating capacity for 60,000 fans and capacity for another 4,000 in the suites, it's a small stadium especially by big 12 or sec standards. but when you look at the amenities, how no detail was spared, and how much was invested in making it the best and loudest atmosphere it is by far the best facility in the nation. back when our stadium only seated 43,000 people and most 6a high schools in oklahoma had nicer amenities, it was still said that for such a small stadium we were some of the loudest fans per seat. now that we put $284 million into a stadium the boone will be louder than most 90,000 seat stadiums, not to mention far nicer. for $284 million we could have built the largest stadium in the nation, but instead, we opted to built the nicest stadium in the nation. period.

here's a quote of barry switzer (former legendary ou coach) talking about how the boone is the best college football facility in the nation and how his school needs to fear it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugB25tdZufE

and here's a video of all of the features of the new stadium.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRKSaiOXico

and that's just the football stadium. directly across hall of fame avenue from the boone, we're also fixing to break ground on the new $50 million sherman e. smith training center, which will be the largest collegiate training center in the nation. it is expected to be nicer than any other collegiate or professional training center in the nation.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b7/SESTC_south.jpg/800px-SESTC_south.jpg

historic gallagher-iba arena, which seats 15,000 for basketball and wrestling matches, is home to more national championships than any other collegiate facility in the nation. after its recent renovations were finished in 2002, cbs sportsline ranked it as the best collegiate basketball facility in the nation.

http://www.craftontullsparks.com/assets/0000/0395/4.jpg

those are just 3 of the new facilities at osu. the new athletic village on the north side of the campus will include new stadiums for baseball and softball, and new venues for baseball, tennis, soccer, equestrian and track and field. the land was cleared for it last year, with hundreds of buildings being razed, and now it's a matter of breaking ground on the new facilities. it should be noted though that everything that hasn't already been designed is on hold..due to the hit taken by the hedge fund that 'the next level' fundraising campaign was invested in.

I think Boone looks good after the renovations, but to say its the best or the nicest I wouldnt really go that far. There are a handful of nicer stadiums out there. I myself prefer the new stadium at the University of Minnesota. They spend 288.5 million on their new place and did it well. Plus they built if for future expansion to 80k+ aswell as more suites and club areas. And I believe they have the biggest locker room at over 60 yards by 25 yards or something aswell as the third largest video board in college football. Plus i believe its LEED Certified.

Tour of Minnesota's new home on campus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAUxkrdNbkE

Aerial Shot
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3464/3794718552_635aa42898_o.jpg

The Locker Room (Not Finished)
http://www.gopherhole.com/images/tcf2/53.jpg

The Club Lounge
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs148.snc1/5494_931656755370_13912879_55359995_2557412_n.jpg

Great game against you guys as well... your boys wore ours down in the end. Good luck with the rest of the season... I do like Florida but I won't be mad if you guys take the SEC title.

What in the world are y'all feeding your running backs though???? Especially Upchurch! :shocked:

Im more confident that Alabama will end up in Atlanta in a rematch against UF for the SEC. I just didnt seem all that impressed with LSU or Ole Miss. Maybe its because of the opening game.

I think Boone looks good after the renovations, but to say its the best or the nicest I wouldnt really go that far. There are a handful of nicer stadiums out there. I myself prefer the new stadium at the University of Minnesota. They spend 288.5 million on their new place and did it well. Plus they built if for future expansion to 80k+ aswell as more suites and club areas. And I believe they have the biggest locker room at over 60 yards by 25 yards or something aswell as the third largest video board in college football. Plus i believe its LEED Certified.

Tour of Minnesota's new home on campus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVL2rv4ctBk

Aerial Shot
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3464/3794718552_635aa42898_o.jpg

The Locker Room (Not Finished)
http://www.gopherhole.com/images/tcf2/53.jpg

The Club Lounge
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs148.snc1/5494_931656755370_13912879_55359995_2557412_n.jpg

the only thing tcf bank stadium has over boone pickens stadium is being leed-certified, which a lot of the osu-stillwater campus already is anyway as a part of the sustainability initiative (http://sustainability.okstate.edu/). i personally think the locker rooms are ugly and that the interior lacks character, but maybe others think that the interior of the boone is too much bright orange and too colorful. i think incorporating school colors as much as the boone does it is the way to go for campus facilities.

tcf falls short of the boone in many key areas. the fans don't sit as close to the field so the sight lines aren't as good and the stadium won't be near as loud. plus a lot of the sound will escape out of the one non-capped endzone, so the seating capacity of 50,000 will sound just like a 50,000-seat stadium and that's it. at the boone, the "wild west endzone" is filled with the student section, arguably one of the best student sections in the nation, and the other endzone is capped by gallagher iba arena so no sound leaves and the fans are so close to the field they practically sit right on top of it.

also tcf doesn't have as many suites and doesn't even come close to as many club seats as the boone.

there are two areas where i feel like tcf is nicer than the boone. one is that the concessions areas and concourses feel much more indoors, which is something that would be really nice in the 100 degree dog days of the summer here in oklahoma. at the boone of course they're indoors, but the concession areas are on the exterior side of the concourse so it's very open to the exterior of the stadium. of course that probably makes getting in and out of tcf a nightmare if the concourse is truly indoors and not open-air, but in the minnesota cold you probably don't mind waiting in lines indoors a little longer.

the other, and only other, area where tcf is better than the boone is the jumbotron. they were supposed to put an 8,000 sf jumbotron that would be the largest in college football in the boone, but it was covering up the entire side of beautiful gallagher iba arena so they got rid of it and put up 4 (much) smaller jumbotrons on the corners of the stadium. tcf has what i think is either the 2nd or 3rd largest jumbotron in college football on the uncapped endzone (arkansas has or had the largest for a long time). that's probably one advantage to having one remaining uncapped endzone, however i don't think it's worth it to have all the crowd noise escaping just to have a space for a huge screen.

and it should be mentioned that even though this stadium costs $4 million more than the boone pickens stadium, i'd be willing to bet that the land it sits on is a lot more expensive than the land the boone is on. just the stadiums, the boone was probably a more expensive facility. costs for the land and the construction in minnesota are probably much higher than in oklahoma. and then you have to take into account that osu's new athletic facilities are so much more than the $284 million football stadium. there's the $50 million training center going up across hall of fame ave. there's the new stadiums for baseball, softball, soccer, new venues for tennis, equestrian, and more.. the rest of the athletic village also will cost hundreds of millions of dollars to complete and is a bold move that will bring every athletic program at osu to the national forefront. the days of basketball, wrestling, and golf accounting for almost all of osu's national championships are gone.

Im not sure what you find lacking in the interior. The stadium uses alot of minnesota's school colors everywhere with out overdoing it. I think they did everything just fine and kept it looking classy. The Locker room as I stated in the caption above the picture had not been finished yet. They have added pictures of all the great alumni who played there before above all the lockers amoung other things. They havealso added alot of color around the inside of the stadium including all the big ten championships and nation championship years. Either way im not sure what you are looking for to give the place more character. Maybe paint all the white walls inside to be maroon and gold?

Also the seats dont sit as close to the field on the sidelines like the boone does because this place was built to be multi-purpose for the U. They have a pitch for soccer use as well and is planned to be used in the olympic qualifying rounds if chicago wins the bid. Which is also why they went with the artificial turf instead of real grass.

TCF doesnt have as many suites or club seats as the boone but like i stated before its built to expand for all these factors based on the demand over the next few years. Which as long as things go the way they are shouldnt be all to far down the road. There is already a waiting list for next years season tickets. From what ive been told the expansion would add a third tier of seats and more suites. Bringing the total cap. over 80k with close to 100 suites, 120 loge boxes, and 5,000+ club seats.

As for the concourses at TCF they are over 90ft wide and have plenty of access points for entry and exit, so i dont see that being any problem. The concourses are also open to the playing field so they are not totally indoors. Although they are built with heating elements, so no worries about the cold. Besides they did a study, over the last 20 years the average game time temp in Minneapolis has been 62 degrees.

As far as sq ft goes the Video screen at TCF is the 3rd largest and not all that much smaller than the one in texas. It does fit nicely in the open west endzone. I dont think they are too worried about the noise escaping the stadium. They designed this stadium to be very similiar to the old memorial stadium that sat across the street. It was a horse shoe shaped stadium, so they designed the new one to look alot like it keeping the horse shoe design. They also liked the design because its open to the campus and downtown minneapolis and doesnt make it feel like it is seperate from everything around it.

As for the cost, I dont doubt that the land and labor cost more in Minneapolis as apossed to OK, but I believe this land was already owned by the university for future expansion which is slated to be finished by 2015. They have already finished a bio-engineering lab on the north side of the stadium with 14 other buildings in the works.

Im more confident that Alabama will end up in Atlanta in a rematch against UF for the SEC. I just didnt seem all that impressed with LSU or Ole Miss. Maybe its because of the opening game.

Could have been. All I know is that Alabama returned a LOT of talent... not just starters but also experienced second-string guys.

How about that game tonight! If you missed this game, I feel very bad for you. Im not really a Miami fan but when you live in down here and are amongst so much of them, you can't help but root for them. This FSU/Miami game was reminiscent of the days when these two were the best thing around, I don't think it could possibly get better than that.

There are more OU grads in Dallas than there are UT grads.

What are you smoking?

How about that game tonight! If you missed this game, I feel very bad for you. Im not really a Miami fan but when you live in down here and are amongst so much of them, you can't help but root for them. This FSU/Miami game was reminiscent of the days when these two were the best thing around, I don't think it could possibly get better than that.

^^^^^^I saw that Miami won! could possibly beat ou in 1 month????

There are more OU grads in Dallas than there are UT grads.

link? I find that hard to believe. There maybe a large OU alumni base. But this is still Texas.

^^^^^^I saw that Miami won! could possibly beat ou in 1 month????

(crossing my fingers) YES! 4 losses for OU this year!

Guy who lives in NoVA and guy who lives in Amarillo say there aren't many OU grads in Dallas. Drive around and it's just nothing but OU fans who put OU stuff on their cars, especially in the more affluent north burbs. It's pretty common knowledge that Dallas has a LOT of OU people, especially for being in Texas.

As for OSU..good for them. This is the first time in their history anyone has ever taken much notice of them. I know if OU had a sugar daddy like OSU does we would do more with it than build a small stadium, and I would just like to mention that OU has the second-longest streak of sellouts in the nation. The longest..also in the Big 12..Nebraska. That's some fan loyalty right there, probably one of the many reasons Nebraska is known for the best fans in college football.

I don't know what to say other than what a huge loss it is to see Sam Bradford hurt like that, especially at a time when Bradford's main target, Jermaine Gresham is also out with an even worse injury. I don't think it's just a huge loss for OU, but it's also a huge loss for the Big 12 and the entire college football nation in my opinion. Bradford is a good guy..much like Colt and Tebow. If one of them sustained a bad injury and their team lost I don't think you would see nearly the hatefulness that you see toward OU but that's just me.

I would just like to point out a few major Big 12 wins, in case there's any potential argument that the SEC is on top already or whatever:

1. OSU's defensive beatdown of Georgia was a great win for so many reasons. It proved that a Big 12 team can play defense, it proved that OSU doesn't need its 3-headed Heisman monster (Dez, Hunter, Zac) in full force in order to get a good win, and it was pretty redeeming from a Big 12 v. SEC standpoint after the championship loss. It's a whole new season and OU is not down and out, just held up at this point. Bradford will be back in about 3 weeks.

2. Another great win for the conference was Baylor's win on the road at Wake Forrest. Yeah, it's the ACC and so what. But it's also Baylor. I mean come on, Baylor. If Baylor can beat a fairly decent Wake Forrest team on the road, maybe Baylor really is getting a lot better these days.

3. Mizzou's thumping of Illinois once again in St. Louis. I know it doesn't need to be said that this illustrates head-to-head to strength difference in the Big 12 and the Big 10, but maybe it does. Mizzou is not even ranked, and isn't even expected to contend for the Big 12 North title this year.

4. The scrimmages that KU and Nebraska played. Sure they aren't really quality wins in the grand scheme of things, but it has to be said that KU and Nebraska especially are on the right track with their programs. KU could be another good squad in Todd Reesing's last year as a Jayhawk, and Nebraska is making steady strides forward under new coach Bo Pellini. It's good to see Nebraska once-again ranked in the Top 20 and acting like a program on solid footing. It should also be mentioned that A&M also went on the road to New Mexico and whooped up on UNM. Considering how I think it was UNM that upset A&M last year, that's a good sign that A&M is coming out of the cellar shadows and back into the light of day.

Of course next Saturday will be a whole new week full of its own big matchups. Ohio State and USC will be pretty big news because apparently we need a big loss each year before conference play begins to remind us that Ohio State isn't that good. In the Big 12, look forward to Houston's high-powered offense traveling to Stillwater..which will be an exciting high-scoring game for sure, unless OSU's defense really is miraculously rebuilt under the new D Coordinator. One interested game is Texas actually going on the road TO Wyoming. Haven't seen that in a while..was Texas really that hard up for cash that they couldn't just pay Wyoming to come to them? Kansas is going on the road against a decent UTEP team, so KU will get a chance to prove a little bit more in that game. Iowa and Iowa State is always a good rivalry game between two teams that aren't very good at putting points on the board. Plus, Iowa is always overrated. Somehow they're Top 25 yet again. Colorado is going on the road to Toledo in some serious need of redemption. Colorado isn't a bad team, they just need to get their stuff together. The Hawkins family situation is probably the worst thing that's happened to Colorado in a long time though. .

how are those facilities supposed to be nicer than ours? i don't think you all understand how a $284 million stadium is by far the best collegiate facility in the nation as well as the best athletic facility in the entire state of oklahoma. autzen stadium, with 55,000 seats, was renovated in 2002 for $80 million and it's probably the only facility that comes close to being as nice as the boone.




http://www.oregongridiron.com/facilities.html


I found a better video. Click on the training room. Oregon's facilities are better than Oklahoma's State.

Does Okalahoma State's locker room have water falls and a juice bar in it?? I doubt it. Does Oklahoma State have a dentist office or ophthalmology room like Oregon's does. Oregon wins hands down.



how much was invested in making it the best and loudest atmosphere it is by far the best facility in the nation. back when our stadium only seated 43,000 people and most 6a high schools in oklahoma had nicer amenities, it was still said that for such a small stadium we were some of the loudest fans per seat. now that we put $284 million into a stadium the boone will be louder than most 90,000 seat stadiums, not to mention far nicer.





Loudest and best atmosphere. :lol: Doesn't compare to SEC atmosphere.

As far as being loudest I have never heard of Boone Picken being loud.
Stadiums that are louder than Boone would be: LSU, Florida, Oregon, Virginia Tech, Texas A&M, Washington, etc......

This is what a loud stadium sounds like son:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N1iUV-yIIY

I would just like to point out a few major Big 12 wins, in case there's any potential argument that the SEC is on top already or whatever:

1. OSU's defensive beatdown of Georgia was a great win for so many reasons. It proved that a Big 12 team can play defense, it proved that OSU doesn't need its 3-headed Heisman monster (Dez, Hunter, Zac) in full force in order to get a good win, and it was pretty redeeming from a Big 12 v. SEC standpoint after the championship loss. It's a whole new season and OU is not down and out, just held up at this point. Bradford will be back in about 3 weeks.



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That was not a defensive of beatdown. Georgia lost b/c they dropped to many passes that hit them right in the chest. UGA's qb was missing wide open receviers b/c it was the first game of the season. Oklahoma State had poor coverage during the game. Also, UGA had some bad penalties. A punt return for a touchdown that was called back and hitting the OSU recivers to hard, lol.

So how was this redeeming?? When the third ranked Big 12 school beat the fifth ranked SEC school. Oklahoma State was the favorite and was suppose to win.

link? I find that hard to believe. There maybe a large OU alumni base. But this is still Texas.

Guy who lives in NoVA and guy who lives in Amarillo say there aren't many OU grads in Dallas. Drive around and it's just nothing but OU fans who put OU stuff on their cars, especially in the more affluent north burbs. It's pretty common knowledge that Dallas has a LOT of OU people, especially for being in Texas.


Did you even read TexasBoi's(guy who lives in NoVa) comment? He said "there may be a large OU almuni base", how can you confuse that with "there aren't many OU grads in Dallas"? For crying out loud, it was a one-line statement.

hopefully, you just overlooked it, and dint just make an incorrect assumption w/o even properly reading it......

2. Another great win for the conference was Baylor's win on the road at Wake Forrest. Yeah, it's the ACC and so what. But it's also Baylor. I mean come on, Baylor. If Baylor can beat a fairly decent Wake Forrest team on the road, maybe Baylor really is getting a lot better these days.


I was at that game and can tell you that Wake was far from decent. :ohno: I do like Baylors QB though.

I'm surprised no one corrected my horrendous spelling of Wake Forest.

That was not a defensive of beatdown. Georgia lost b/c they dropped to many passes that hit them right in the chest. UGA's qb was missing wide open receviers b/c it was the first game of the season. Oklahoma State had poor coverage during the game. Also, UGA had some bad penalties. A punt return for a touchdown that was called back and hitting the OSU recivers to hard, lol.

So how was this redeeming?? When the third ranked Big 12 school beat the fifth ranked SEC school. Oklahoma State was the favorite and was suppose to win.

OSU and Georgia were ranked nearly the same going into the game and both Corso and Herby picked Georgia. It just so happened that to start the season off the SEC had more teams ranked higher..which isn't the case anymore.

Cox kept missing his passes because of the pressure of the Cowboys D-line. It's how the game of football is played. And if a penalty exists, enforce it. If it doesn't, don't. Should be that simple. The schools in the NCAA agree to the terms..

Georgia's offense looked horrific, but its just a case of the better team (OSU) winning. Ill be keeping an eye on the Cowboys to see how their season pans out.

As a conference I would rather have a team lose to a member of the major conferences like the Big 12, rather than a conf. like the WAC.

One interested game is Texas actually going on the road TO Wyoming. Haven't seen that in a while..was Texas really that hard up for cash that they couldn't just pay Wyoming to come to them?
Texas hard up for cash?:lol:


When it comes to college football business, Texas Longhorns are on top
02:40 AM CDT on Saturday, October 11, 2008

By GARY JACOBSON / The Dallas Morning News
gjacobson@dallasnews.com

Two No. 1 teams will be on the field today at the Cotton Bowl: Oklahoma in the college football polls and Texas in the college football business.

For the third consecutive year, the Longhorns finished atop the Collegiate Licensing Company's rankings of merchandise sales, a streak that began when Texas won the national football championship in 2006.

In addition, Texas narrowly edged Notre Dame as the top college football revenue producer during 2006-07, according to financial reports filed with the Department of Education.

The Longhorns' football program accounted for $63.8 million of the athletic department's revenue of $105 million, a total surpassed that year only by Florida ($107.8 million) and Ohio State ($109.4 million). Notre Dame's football program generated $63.7 million of the athletic department's $83.6 million in revenue.

Using that same set of financial reports, the most recent available, Forbes magazine last November declared Texas college "football's most profitable team" in 2006-07. The Longhorns generated a surplus of $46.2 million.

The Texas program continues to gain financial momentum. For 2008-09, UT is budgeting total athletic department revenue of nearly $127 million, spokesman Nick Voinis said. Much of the increase is because of an extra home football game and 13,000 extra seats at renovated Royal Memorial Stadium, he said.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/colleges/topstories/stories/101108dnspoutoubusiness.31c9a2e.html


No, it was a lame attempt to make up for the home-and-home series with Utah that backed out of Utah did.

Utes Blog:
Ute Football by Lya Wodraska

Friday, December 12, 2008
The matchup that could have been
Just something to ponder on your afternoon ride home. I've mentioned it before, but remember, Utah had Texas on its schedule for this season in Rice-Eccles Stadium. The series was cancelled at then coach Urban Meyer's urging because he thought it made Utah's schedule too difficult.
Can you imagine, if the Utes had kept Texas on the schedule and had beaten the Longhorns, they would have had a very good chance of being in the national title game.

http://blogs.sltrib.com/utes/2008/12/matchup-that-could-have-been.htm

Ohhhhh! Jermane Gresham out entire season! Sam bradford out 2-3 weeks!but, OU will have a cupcake this weekend! Idaho St!!!!

If I were an OU grad I would probably end up in Dallas as well, no way I would stay in OK once my education was complete.

It just so happened that to start the season off the SEC had more teams ranked higher..which isn't the case anymore.


How so?

AP Poll:
SEC:............................Big 12:
1. Florida.......................2. Texas
4. Alabama....................5. Oklahoma St.
6. Ole Miss....................13. Oklahoma
11. LSU........................22 Nebraska
21. Georgia...................24. Kansas
...................................25. Missouri

Coaches Poll:
SEC:............................Big 12:
1. Florida......................2. Texas
4. Alabama....................6. Oklahoma St.
8. Ole Miss....................14. Oklahoma
9. LSU..........................18. Nebraska
21. Georgia....................25. Kansas

http://espn.go.com/college-football/rankings

Georgia also lost their QB (#1 overall pick) leading rusher(#12 pick), and top receiver (#50 pick) to the NFL. Of course their offense is going to be a mess in the first game of the season.

BTW, I do acknowledge that the SEC is the best conference year in and year out.

Over the last 10 years the SEC has been the best conference from top to bottom. Don't blow up SEC fan's heads any more than they already are. They need to study the history of college football more. In the 50's and 60's the Big 10 was the best top to bottom, the Pac 10 in the 70's and Miami and FL State dominated the 80s up to the mid 90's. The SEC started reaching it's current status as the nation's toughest conference in the late 90's, and even then the Big 12 in it's infancy was just as tough when Nebraska was Nebraska, the Mike Bishop led K-State teams, Colorado, Texas A&M (hard to beleive they were the best in the South division those first few years of the Big 12) and finally when TEXAS and blOwU got back to their rightful places in college football around '99. Bama and Tennessee are the only 2 SEC schools with a long standing (meaning back in the 40's and 50's they were national powers) national signifigance. Ole Miss was good here and there in the 50's, Georgia has a little history and don't even bring up the Gators as they are a relative new comer to the big boy table since they only became CONSISTANTLY good in the Spurrier era in the early 90's.

As a Longhorns fan, screw the rest of the Big 12! Especially the blOwU Land Theives! SEC fans cheer for each other in Championship games. I am elated each and every time blOwU loses. It's food for my soul.

To all SEC fans...Texas is 44-19 all time against you (not including their 56-21 record against "the swine flu" as they only joind the SEC in 1992.)

How so?

AP Poll:
SEC:............................Big 12:
1. Florida.......................2. Texas
4. Alabama....................5. Oklahoma St.
6. Ole Miss....................13. Oklahoma
11. LSU........................22 Nebraska
21. Georgia...................24. Kansas
...................................25. Missouri

Coaches Poll:
SEC:............................Big 12:
1. Florida......................2. Texas
4. Alabama....................6. Oklahoma St.
8. Ole Miss....................14. Oklahoma
9. LSU..........................18. Nebraska
21. Georgia....................25. Kansas

http://espn.go.com/college-football/rankings

You just proved my point, which was that the SEC went into the season with more teams ranked higher than the Big 12 had, which is not longer the case. The Big 12 had a lot of teams go up, and the SEC had some teams go down..mainly Georgia which went from 13 to 21. Of course OU went from #3 to #13 .. but that is still a pretty good ranking. We certainly didn't play like a #13 team against BYU either.

No, the SEC clearly has more teams ranked higher. Big 12 just snuck a team (or 2) on the back end of the polls. 4 top 10 teams >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 top 10 teams.

Big 12 just snuck a team (or 2) on the back end of the polls.

The Big 12 is so surreptitious.

And for all this talk about how great Oregon's facilities are compared to ol' Okie State's, all I'm wondering is if they have a dojo at the Autzen Zoo..

And if you really want to break things down, the SEC has Tennessee, Auburn, Arkansas, South Carolina, and Kentucky in the others receiving votes in one or both polls, While the Big 12 only has Texas Tech and Baylor.

Technically those teams are ranked, they just dont have a number beside their name.

Cashville is reeeeeeally desperate for a point to prove.

That is nice. Talk about something that really matters:


NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS
Notre Dame 8
USC 7
Oklahoma 7
Alabama 7
Ohio State 5
Nebraska 5
Miami 5
Texas 4
Minnesota 4
LSU 3


Georgia Tech - 4 National Championships...

1. 1917 under John Heisman, with a season-ending 68-7 beat down over Auburn
2. 1928 under William Alexander, ending with a Rose Bowl victory over California
3. 1952 under Bobby Dodd and a win over Mississippi in the Sugar Bowl
4. 1990 under Bobby Ross and a share of the National Championship with a win over Nebraska

Actually Michigan State was the 1952 national champion and championships from before 1936 are irrelevant for many reasons..the modern era began in '36 with the AP Poll, before that there were multiple champions, anyone could call themselves a champion, and there wasn't a national following to compare the top programs to each other.

Georgia State has 1 national championship. With that said, there are about 10 other national polls that award national championships and I'm sure you could find a 1952 championship out of one of them, it just won't be commonly recognized.

Actually 13 OU teams have been awarded national championships.. only 7 of them, about half, are recognized by the majority of people though. Michigan is always claiming they have like 12 national championships, when most people only recognize 2 of them.

Actually Michigan State was the 1952 national champion and championships from before 1936 are irrelevant for many reasons..the modern era began in '36 with the AP Poll, before that there were multiple champions, anyone could call themselves a champion, and there wasn't a national following to compare the top programs to each other.

Georgia State has 1 national championship. With that said, there are about 10 other national polls that award national championships and I'm sure you could find a 1952 championship out of one of them, it just won't be commonly recognized.

Actually 13 OU teams have been awarded national championships.. only 7 of them, about half, are recognized by the majority of people though. Michigan is always claiming they have like 12 national championships, when most people only recognize 2 of them.


So it has to be recognized by "the majority of people"? How could you possibly KNOW what the majority of people recognize about anything? You only know what you recognize, so please don't speak for the majority of people. As for actual information, the National Championship in college football has been awarded since 1869, no matter what agency was established in which year. The historical information does not simply end in a year that's convenient for you.

Each one of Georgia TECH's (not Georgia State) National Championships was the result of an unbeaten season. In 1952, Michigan State and Georgia Tech shared the National Championship. In 1928, Tech shared the National Championship with USC. In 1990, Tech shared the National Championship with Washington.

Actually Michigan State was the 1952 national champion and championships from before 1936 are irrelevant for many reasons..the modern era began in '36 with the AP Poll, before that there were multiple champions, anyone could call themselves a champion, and there wasn't a national following to compare the top programs to each other.

Georgia State has 1 national championship. With that said, there are about 10 other national polls that award national championships and I'm sure you could find a 1952 championship out of one of them, it just won't be commonly recognized.

Actually 13 OU teams have been awarded national championships.. only 7 of them, about half, are recognized by the majority of people though. Michigan is always claiming they have like 12 national championships, when most people only recognize 2 of them.

Since the National Championship has been decided on the field in a championship game Oklahoma has becoming the laughing stock of all of college football. They are constantly out played and beaten down by the opposing team in BCS bowls. This has led many to call Oklahoma the New Buffalo Bills of college football. Big game bob has become big game loser bob.

2003 LSU beats down Oklahoma (National Championship)
2004 USC beats down Oklahoma (National Championship)
2006 Boise State beats down Oklahoma (BCS Bowl)
2007 West Virginia beats downs Oklahoma (BCS Bowl)
2008 Florida beats down Oklahoma (National Championship)

Man, that is some butt whippings. I almost feel sorry for Oklahoma/Buffalo Bills.

Oklahoma's only prayer is for the national championship to be crowned the old paper championship way. This is the only way OU has a shot to win another crown. Because, as Oklahoma has proven many times this decade, when the championship game is decided on the field Oklahoma is outmatched and DESTROYED!!!!!!!!!!!

:lol:

Honestly there is nothing more useless than NCAA football national champions. As bad as the BCS is, it is clearly an improvement.

Look at the 1950 Oklahoma national championship. They are awarded the title before the bowls are played, then go out and get beat by Bear Bryant and his Kentucky team (yes that is accurate) in the Sugar Bowl. But since the AP championship was awarded prior to the polls OU gets it and not UK.

Since the National Championship has been decided on the field in a championship game Oklahoma has becoming the laughing stock of all of college football. They are constantly out played and beaten down by the opposing team in BCS bowls. This has led many to call Oklahoma the New Buffalo Bills of college football. Big game bob has become big game loser bob.

2003 LSU beats down Oklahoma (National Championship)
2004 USC beats down Oklahoma (National Championship)
2005 Boise State beats down Oklahoma (BCS Bowl)
2006 West Virginia beats downs Oklahoma (BCS Bowl)
2007 Florida beats down Oklahoma (National Championship)

Man, that is some butt whippings. I almost feel sorry for Oklahoma/Buffalo Bills.

Oklahoma's only prayer is for the national championship to be crowned the old paper championship way. This is the only way OU has a shot to win another crown. Because, as Oklahoma has proven many times this decade, when the championship game is decided on the field Oklahoma is outmatched and DESTROYED!!!!!!!!!!!

:lol:


Good information! :bash:

I guess, according to SRG, we should probably only count National Championships awarded since the BCS was established in 1998...any that came before the current system should not be counted - right? :nuts:

Honestly there is nothing more useless than NCAA football national champions. As bad as the BCS is, it is clearly an improvement.

Look at the 1950 Oklahoma national championship. They are awarded the title before the bowls are played, then go out and get beat by Bear Bryant and his Kentucky team (yes that is accurate) in the Sugar Bowl. But since the AP championship was awarded prior to the polls OU gets it and not UK.


But the NCAA recently recognized Kentucky as the co-winner of the 1950 National Championship with an awards ceremony for the players from that team.

Did they have the ceremony at a Lexington area nursing home?

Did they have the ceremony at a Lexington area nursing home?

It was in 2005 during halftime at Commonwealth Stadium...the surviving players from the 1950 team would have been roughly between 73 and 77 years old. I think you can probably leave the nursing home to attend an important award ceremony like a retroactive NCAA National Championship that your team deserved 50 years ago.

Another strong performance by the Big 12 last night, Colorado giving up 54 in a loss to a MAC team.

It is worth noting Colorado is the worst team in the Big 12 this year. I honestly don't think they'll win a conference game this season.

It is worth noting Colorado is the worst team in the Big 12 this year. I honestly don't think they'll win a conference game this season.


It's similar to Duke and UVA being the worst teams in the ACC and both losing to Colonial Athletic Conference teams. Incidentally, Duke lost to Richmond - last year's winner of the FCS National Championship.

In my opinion, the worst teams in any conference should never be held up as an example of the entire conference. It's silliness.

It is worth noting Colorado is the worst team in the Big 12 this year. I honestly don't think they'll win a conference game this season.

Pretty sad if they are worse than Iowa St., couple really terrible teams in that conference.

Texas in titanic struggle vs ... Wyoming ?

Texas in titanic struggle vs ... Wyoming ?

I wouldn't make much of it. Texas had the exact same game from UTEP last year when they won 42-13. One of those games where they really didn't get up for. That said, Greg Davis called a horrible game in the first half tonight. He woke up in the 2nd half, though.

There really isn't any excuse for even a slightly close football game between the #2 ranked team and Wyoming. A team ranked in the top 5 or even in the top 25 should be up for EVERY game. Period.

Texas ended up taking care of business, Florida wasnt looking so hot the first quarter and a half against Troy either.

OK St. goes down to Houston, pretty much ends any reasonable Big 12 is better than SEC talk for this year. 2 of the big 3 have now lost to non BCS schools.

Tennessee loses 19-15 to UCLA, now have a week to prepare for the raping they will receive next week against Florida.

South Carolina pretty much curb stomping Georgia outside of kickoff returns. Up 17-7 in the first quarter, UGa scored on a 100 yard kick-off return. UGa just got another return to mid-field.

Texas took a while to get it rolling, but they ended up completely dominating the 2nd half. I except them to give Wyoming more of a smack down when they visit Austin next year. Kudos to Wyoming for giving UT a run for their money. But when it comes down to it, a win is a win.

That being said, seems like the other Cowboys (Ok State) lost another big game, to and un-ranked Houston team... AT home! I tip my hat off to Houston; they played wonderfully, and I feel now deserved to be ranked at least in the Top 25 after that win. Must hurt to be a Cowboys fan right now.

Hook -em!
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There really isn't any excuse for even a slightly close football game between the #2 ranked team and Wyoming. A team ranked in the top 5 or even in the top 25 should be up for EVERY game. Period.

Didn't make an excuse. I said Texas particularily Greg Davis which is the Texas offensive coordinator called a terrible first half by not using the size and speed to his advantage. He adjusted and Texas won by 31 points. The defense didn't give up a touchdown and played very good though not great because of the lack of turnovers that dropped out of their hands today. Florida actually struggled for a while against Troy today themselves. It happens. In the end, Texas took care of business.

Texas took a while to get it rolling, but they ended up completely dominating the 2nd half. I except them to give Wyoming more of a smack down when they visit Austin next year. Kudos to Wyoming for giving UT a run for their money. But when it comes down to it, a win is a win.



Yeah I give credit to Wyoming. They played with heart and passion and looked like they were part of the very underrated Mountain West conference. UT should know that they can't play like that against BCS teams especially next week against Tech although I expect Texas to stomp them pretty badly.

FIU 14 Bama 13 2nd quarter

A lot of top teams got/getting off to slow starts today.

Yeah I was about to come and post this. Bama is going to win that game but slow starts happen. And Bama just scored lol.

Now UGa is up 21-17 and just intercepted the ball, this game has been ridiculous so far.

OKST lost to Houston after beating UGA last week! talk about a let down, they are ranked #5 right now but on Monday that will probb. drop to around 15-20!

USC 18 Laughingstock of College Football 15

So how about that UH win at OSU?:lol:

Bama came out flat last night but no reason for any real concern 40-14. North Texas is up next.

Meanwhile Auburn is starting to look like the smash mouth team of old with a 49-24 beat down of Miss. St. West Virginia is the next game for Auburn.

So how about that UH win at OSU?:lol:

No kidding. I don't actually root against OSU like I do a lot of other teams, but come on now that's funny. I had to endure the Slowpokes fans bragging about being ranked high for the first time since the 80s and it looks like that was just a balloon waiting to be popped. When you get trounced like that at home by a commuter school it's funny.

No kidding. I don't actually root against OSU like I do a lot of other teams, but come on now that's funny. I had to endure the Slowpokes fans bragging about being ranked high for the first time since the 80s and it looks like that was just a balloon waiting to be popped. When you get trounced like that at home by a commuter school it's funny.


I don't know if Houston is actually a commuter school, but that doesn't necessarily make it laughable. UH has had good football teams in the past and has had plenty of successful seasons in other sports as well. The football program is at least comparable to Oklahoma State's.

I don't know if Houston is actually a commuter school, but that doesn't necessarily make it laughable. UH has had good football teams in the past and has had plenty of successful seasons in other sports as well. The football program is at least comparable to Oklahoma State's.

Houston area has a ton of high school talent. Some of the best in the country. Throw Baylor out of the Big 12 and put Houston or TCU in the Big 12. I know Baylor is actually pretty good this year but most years they are not.

I don't know if Houston is actually a commuter school

It is. People in general don't actually live there and the campus isn't all that, and it's in the worst part of Houston.

It is. People in general don't actually live there and the campus isn't all that, and it's in the worst part of Houston.

True or not, how does that affect the school's football standing?

It doesn't.

The information I found is that 12% of students at the University of Houston live on campus (about 4,000 students)...while 20% of students at the University of Oklahoma live on campus (about 5,500 students). Both universities own rental apartments in surrounding areas for off campus student housing.

Not a lot difference in my book. So, should we label Oklahoma as a commuter school?

Not a lot difference in my book. So, should we label Oklahoma as a commuter school?

I don't know, where do you think the remaining students live..near campus or at their parents? Is OU pretty much comprised of 4 unique, different campuses all around OKC (like U of H in Houston), or just 1 main campus in Norman? On gamedays Norman, a city of 100,000, also almost doubles in population..

And there's not a lot of difference to you between 12% and 20%?

Houston area has a ton of high school talent. Some of the best in the country. Throw Baylor out of the Big 12 and put Houston or TCU in the Big 12. I know Baylor is actually pretty good this year but most years they are not.

But Baylor is competitive in every other sport. Unlike TCU or Houston. Or even A&M up to recently. So Baylor stays.

I don't know, where do you think the remaining students live..near campus or at their parents? Is OU pretty much comprised of 4 unique, different campuses all around OKC (like U of H in Houston), or just 1 main campus in Norman? On gamedays Norman, a city of 100,000, also almost doubles in population..

And there's not a lot of difference to you between 12% and 20%?

Nope, not a lot of difference...8% is not a lot. Sorry.

I have no idea where the remaining students live. Are you saying that you know for a fact that the remaining University of Houston students live with their parents? That's pretty absurd if it's what you're saying...

Here is a quick look at conference strength.

So far the SEC and Pac 10 are leading the way.

1. SEC (13-2; 3-2 BCS)
2. Pac10 (13-4; 4-2 BCS)
3. Big10 (13-4; 4-3 BCS*)
4. Big12 (16-6; 3-1 BCS) - 5 losses to non-BCS
5. MWC (11-6; 3-5 BCS)
6. Big East (10-3; 0-3 BCS)
7. ACC (12-7; 2-5 BCS)

Baylor only got in so that the Texas leg would approve UT and A&M joining the Big 12.

Here is a quick look at conference strength.

So far the SEC and Pac 10 are leading the way.

1. SEC (13-2; 3-2 BCS) - 9 wins over FCS teams
2. Pac10 (13-4; 4-2 BCS) - 5 wins over FCS teams
3. Big10 (13-4; 4-3 BCS*) - 11 wins over FCS teams
4. Big12 (16-6; 3-1 BCS) - 11 wins over FCS teams
5. MWC (11-6; 3-5 BCS) - 5 wins over FCS teams
6. Big East (10-3; 0-3 BCS) - 9 wins over FCS teams
7. ACC (12-7; 2-5 BCS) - 8 wins over FCS teams



Let's make this more honest...most of the wins in these first two weeks have been over FCS (Division I-AA) teams. It looks like the MWC and Pac10 have played the most competitive schedules so far - the other conferences have played mostly cupcake teams.

I don't know, where do you think the remaining students live..near campus or at their parents? Is OU pretty much comprised of 4 unique, different campuses all around OKC (like U of H in Houston), or just 1 main campus in Norman? On gamedays Norman, a city of 100,000, also almost doubles in population..

And there's not a lot of difference to you between 12% and 20%?

There a difference between U oh H main campus, and the UH system with 4 main universities.

UH-Main is the only one with a football team(and really any sports for that matter), so all the satellite locations are irrelevant to this thread.

The relationship between UH and all of its other campuses is about the same to the relationship between UT-Austin and UT-San Antonio. Both share the same name, but there's not many similarities.

Let's make this more honest...most of the wins in these first two weeks have been over FCS (Division I-AA) teams. It looks like the MWC and Pac10 have played the most competitive schedules so far - the other conferences have played mostly cupcake teams.

They still played 5 BCS teams already which is a good number.

MWC is still not a BCS conference. They are very soft mid and lower ranks in the conference. Utah, BYU, and TCU are solid though.

PAC 10 plays the MWC b/c they are neighboring conferences. Also, the PAC 10 has to bring in name opponents b/c of lack of interest. LSU played Washington and the game wasn't even a sell out. Tennessee played at UCLA last year and was ranked. I was shocked to see entire sections empty at the stadium. Outside of USC and Oregon (small stadium) the rest of the teams fell to sell out the majority of games the entire season. Last year Oregon was the only team in the conference to sell out the entire season.

They still played 5 BCS teams already which is a good number.

MWC is still not a BCS conference. They are very soft mid and lower ranks in the conference. Utah, BYU, and TCU are solid though.

PAC 10 plays the MWC b/c they are neighboring conferences. Also, the PAC 10 has to bring in name opponents b/c of lack of interest. LSU played Washington and the game wasn't even a sell out. Tennessee played at UCLA last year and was ranked. I was shocked to see entire sections empty at the stadium. Outside of USC and Oregon (small stadium) the rest of the teams fell to sell out the majority of games the entire season. Last year Oregon was the only team in the conference to sell out the entire season.

That's all fine information, but what does it have to do with the strength of the football teams or the conference?

I know that MWC is not BCS, but there isn't NEARLY as much difference in the talent and strength between BCS and non-BCS as there is between BCS and FCS teams. My point was that most of the wins don't mean much of anything simply because they came against FCS opponents...it doesn't say anything about how good any of the teams really are. It was not meant as a slight against you - I appreciate you posting the information. I just added my 2 cents.

There a difference between U oh H main campus, and the UH system with 4 main universities.

UH-Main is the only one with a football team(and really any sports for that matter), so all the satellite locations are irrelevant to this thread.

The relationship between UH and all of its other campuses is about the same to the relationship between UT-Austin and UT-San Antonio. Both share the same name, but there's not many similarities.

That's not true. UT-Austin and UT-Dallas are about 3 hours apart. All U of H campuses are within 30/45 minutes of each other, with the exception of UH-Victoria, which is about 20 minutes SW of the Houston metro on the other side of Sugar Land/Missouri City. Also for total enrollment, UT-Austin just counts UT-Austin. For total enrollment, you always see U of H citing the 35,000 number which is all 4 campuses combined.

That's all fine information, but what does it have to do with the strength of the football teams or the conference?



You said It looks like the MWC and Pac10 have played the most competitive schedules so far.

I told you why the Pac 10 has played top teams. Go back and read the posts if your still having trouble.

You said It looks like the MWC and Pac10 have played the most competitive schedules so far.

I told you why the Pac 10 has played top teams. Go back and read the posts if your still having trouble.

Having trouble with what? YOU'RE the one posting worthless information. I already said thanks...I guess that wasn't what you wanted to hear.

Baylor only got in so that the Texas leg would approve UT and A&M joining the Big 12.

Texas Tech too.

That "other" school..

You made a statement and I told you why the Pac 10 plays a tough of out of conference schedule. Go back and read it. R U still having trouble son? It's not hard.

Having trouble with what? WesimieLvr is posting worthless information and is having a hard time. I already said thanks...I guess that wasn't what you wanted to hear. I'm still confused and I have no idea what I'm talking about.

Fixed it 4 ya son.

You made a statement and I told you why the Pac 10 plays a tough of out of conference schedule. Go back and read it. R U still having trouble son? It's not hard.



Fixed it 4 ya son.


How mature of you...what are you, 12?

He claims to have a Ph.D. from TCU. No wonder.

How mature of you...what are you, 12?

:cheers:


He claims to have a Ph.D. from TCU. No wonder.

SRG, I never said I had a Ph.D. I said I went to graduate school so I have a master's degree. What kind of degree do you have?

SRG, leave the football thread alone. Shouldn't you be hyping up the new burger king coming to Oklahoma City.

:lol:

If you mean the $777 million MAPS3 initiative, or Devon Tower, or other downtown development, well it can take a break for some football. Not that that's even close to what is being discussed in this thread though..

He also never said he was a grown-up...and I believe he has proven himself.

I guess Florida State is pretty much legit...dropping 54 on #7 BYU.

Virginia Tech played poorly IMO, but in the end the Hokies scored enough for the W over #19 Nebraska.

ACC. :banana: Clemson won. :cheers: Miami also looks good too.

It might've made the pac-10 look bad overall, but I'm glad the Huskies beat USC. :) I do happen to think that the huskies are pretty underrated. I don't see anyone in the Pac-10 beating the huskies except maybe California.

I guess Florida State is pretty much legit...dropping 54 on #7 BYU.

Virginia Tech played poorly IMO, but in the end the Hokies scored enough for the W over #19 Nebraska.

Glad they can notch a W at home over a Nebraska program coming out of hard times.

Glad they can notch a W at home over a Nebraska program coming out of hard times.

How long are Big12 fans gonna label Nebraska "coming out of hard times"? They've been coming out for years now...are they not out yet?

The fact is, they are supposedly a ranked team and they got beaten by a higher ranked team. No excuses, please...

UH climbs to no.17! Going to watch the Texas Tech-UH game, should be a showdown. I think coming out of the loss from UT will make them even harder to beat.

He also never said he was a grown-up...and I believe he has proven himself.

You never said you were intelligent...and I believe you have proven yourself to be unintelligent.

Give it up little boy.

You never said you were intelligent...and I believe you have proven yourself to be unintelligent.

Give it up little boy.

Man, the thread almost took a turn toward an actual football discussion. The "I know you are but what am I" dude returns!

If I were you, I would try to come up with some original insults before posting anymore copied ones crafted from prior posted material. I've noticed that this is an unattractive pattern for you. :ohno:

UM jumped from No. 20 to No. 9 in the AP Poll this week! Thy're back.

UM jumped from No. 20 to No. 9 in the AP Poll this week! Thy're back.


Miami's rise also further legitimizes FSU after that amazing game they played to open the season a couple of weeks ago. I don't think too many people knew what to make of the game - were both teams really strong? were both teams really weak? Now it seems like they are both getting the credit they deserve after wins over higher-ranked teams this week.

ACC is on a roll. :cheers:

How long are Big12 fans gonna label Nebraska "coming out of hard times"? They've been coming out for years now...are they not out yet?

The fact is, they are supposedly a ranked team and they got beaten by a higher ranked team. No excuses, please...

Nebraska played a great game, but just came up short at the end. The Nebraska program is in better shape than most. Their demise began with the hiring of Bill Callahan.

Man, the thread almost took a turn toward an actual football discussion. The "I know you are but what am I" dude returns!

If I were you, I would try to come up with some original insults before posting anymore copied ones crafted from prior posted material. I've noticed that this is an unattractive pattern for you. :ohno:

It's easy to post remarks from your previous insults b/c you don't have a clue little boy. You just ramble and ramble without making sense. Let's try another one. The "rambling confused dude returns". See how easy that was or are you having trouble again.
You sure can dish it out but you seem to have a hard taking it.
:bash:

It's easy to post remarks from your previous insults b/c you don't have a clue little boy. You just ramble and ramble without making sense. Let's try another one. The "rambling confused dude returns". See how easy that was or are you having trouble again son? Are you confused, AGAIN??? :lol: HA HA HA

You sure can dish it out but you seem to have a hard taking it. Cry for me some more kid.

:bash:

Again, more nonsense. This is ridiculous! You keep trying to derail the thread from the topic, which is football. Can you stop please?

He's being mean to me. :cry:

Again, more nonsense. This is ridiculous! You keep trying to derail the thread from the topic, which is football. Can you stop please?

Sure I'll stop. I tried already one time but you didn't let it go.

Take 2.

:cheers:

Anyway...:hm:

You don't believe Mallett's throws have been clocked at 115 mph?
By Don Kausler Jr. -- The Birmingham News
September 23, 2009, 11:37AM

Ryan Mallett gets set to fire a third-quarter pass against Georgia. The transfer from Michigan set school records with 408 yards passing and five touchdown passes in a 52-41 loss last week. He will test Alabama's pass defense at 2:30 p.m. Saturday at Bryant-Denny Stadium. (AP photo)

TUSCALOOSA -- Has a pass by Arkansas quarterback Ryan Mallett really been clocked at 115 mph?

That's a fact you will find in a story in today's edition of The Birmingham News.

Some readers understandably are skeptical. The fact came from a story about Mallett by Tom Murphy, one of two Arkansas beat reporters for Arkansas Democrat-Gazette.(Murphy is a former Alabama beat reporter for the Mobile Press-Register.)

That story attributes the 115 mph fact to Arkansas tight end D.J. Williams. (But it doesn't make the fact true.)

"Ryan Mallett has the strongest arm in college football," said All-SEC tight end D.J. Williams. "I've caught some balls that I had to take my gloves off because he ripped all the sticky stuff off of them." Williams said the Razorbacks have timed Mallett's throws at 115 mph with a Juggs gun.

A reader has sent me a link to an actual experiment done regarding the speed of a football compared to the speed of a baseball.

According to this reader, there is a factor of 1.68 when calculating how fast a baseball would travel in comparison to a football. This means that Mallett's 115 mph football pass is equivalent to throwing a baseball 193.2 mph.


Thats insane, but it wont be good enough to beat Bama on Saturday. The Arkansas defense is not that good from what I saw in the Georgia game. I cant say we will put up 52 points (49points last year), but Bama should win this one.

I don't doubt that Mallett has the strongest arm in college football. But I think the idea of him throwing a football 12 mph faster than Nolan Ryan threw a baseball is hilarious.

Looks like the OU -Miami game will be huge! its in Miami!

Will Sam Bradford play in the Miami game??

Fifteen teams relocated in Top 25
Associated Press

NEW YORK -- After a weekend in which four top-10 teams lost, The Associated Press college football poll received a major makeover.

No. 1 Florida, No. 2 Texas and No. 3 Alabama held their places in the media poll released Sunday, but 15 teams moved up or down at least three spots.

The results have left the 60 sports writers and sportscasters on the AP panel struggling to fill out their ballots.

"This was one of the toughest weeks I can remember in my 10 years of being a pollster, because after the top 3 there simply weren't any other squads that merited a top-10 ranking, much less a No. 4-5-6," said Barker Davis of The Washington Times in an e-mail.

LSU is up to No. 4 after barely avoiding an upset at Mississippi State on Saturday. No. 5 Boise State is in the top five for the first time in the regular season.

No. 6 Virginia Tech, No. 7 Southern California and No. 9 Ohio State are back in the top 10.

Cincinnati moved up four spots to No. 10, the best ranking in school history.

No. 13 Iowa and No. 16 Oregon both jumped back into the rankings after beating top-10 teams. Georgia Tech also moved back into the rankings. Falling out were Florida State, North Carolina and Washington, which followed its upset of USC with a 34-14 loss at Stanford on Saturday.

"It's been incredibly difficult [to vote] because our knowledge changes from one week to the next," said Kirk Bohls of the Austin American-Statesmen. "Miami's great, Miami gets blown out. Florida State blows out Top 25 BYU on the road, then loses to an unranked team at home."

Florida (4-0) had no problem beating Kentucky, but lost quarterback Tim Tebow to a concussion late in the third quarter of its 41-7 victory. Florida is off this week before playing at LSU on Oct. 10. Florida received 55 first-place votes.

For the second consecutive week the Southeastern Conference has three of the top four teams in the country, with LSU replacing Mississippi. The last conference to have three of the top four in the AP poll was the Big Eight in 1971, when Nebraska, Oklahoma and Colorado were Nos. 1, 2 and 3.

Texas received one first-place vote and 1,420 points. Alabama had four first-place votes, one more than last week, and 1,400 points.

The Gators, Longhorns and Crimson Tide are the only preseason top-10 teams that have not lost a game. Six times already this season a team ranked in the top 10 has lost to an unranked team.

"After the top 3, it's a guessing game!!," ESPN's Kirk Herbstreit wrote in an e-mail.

A volatile weekend for highly ranked teams began Thursday night in South Carolina, when the unranked Gamecocks beat then-No. 4 Mississippi. Ole Miss fell 17 spots to No. 21.

And that was only the second-largest drop by a ranked team this week.

After California was routed 42-3 by Oregon on Saturday, the Bears fell 18 spots from No. 6 to No. 24. Cal hosts USC on Saturday.

Penn State also lost its first game Saturday, falling 21-10 at home to Iowa. The Nittany Lions fell 10 spots to No. 15.

Virginia Tech's 31-7 victory against Miami, boosted the Hokies five spots and sent the 17th-ranked Hurricanes tumbling eight spots in the new rankings.

Miami faces No. 8 Oklahoma at home on Saturday.

TCU is up four spots to No. 11, followed by another potential BCS buster, undefeated Houston.

Georgia and Kansas are tied for No. 18 and BYU is No. 20.

No. 23 Michigan, which needed a late rally and a controversial call to go its way to beat Indiana 36-33, was the only team outside the top three to hold its spot in the new poll.

The first Harris poll, which is used in the BCS rankings, was released Sunday and the top 10 was the same as the AP's, except the Harris voters had Ohio State No. 8 and Oklahoma No. 9.

The USA Today coaches' poll had the same top nine as the AP. The first difference came at No. 10. The coaches had TCU, instead of Cincinnati.


Copyright 2009 by The Associated Press

Will Sam Bradford play in the Miami game??

Maybe. If not this one, then the next game for sure.

UM jumped from No. 20 to No. 9 in the AP Poll this week! Thy're back.

In the words of Lee Corso..."not so fast...my friend!" :lol::lol::lol:

Will Sam Bradford play in the Miami game??

Doesn't matter, duh U is NOT back!

Florida (or Alabama) on collision course with Texas ?

Film at eleven ...

I have no idea why LSU is #4 in the country. They aren't playing that good. I think they will be losing in the coming weeks unless they make an about face. Seriously.

I have no idea why LSU is #4 in the country. They aren't playing that good. I think they will be losing in the coming weeks unless they make an about face. Seriously.

What's the deal with LSU anyway ? I thought maybe the shaky performance vs Wash was an aberration, maybe relating to cross-country travel. But they've been shaky since. Is Jefferson not performing as hoped ?

Les Miles

My fellow Gator fans think I'm crazy, but I loved the way Miles gambled all through 2007. Many called him 'stupid' for it, but it got him a BCS.

Its the way his games have gone since he has been at LSU, don't know why its any big surprise that he is not blowing anybody out. If he is not playing an ACC team or OSU it will probably be a close game, he even lost to Arkansas and Kentucky the year he won the title. They were both middle of the road SEC teams.

Doesn't matter, duh U is NOT back!

Oh...they're back, still kinda young @ key positions...bet your ASS they're back! Too much talent in Dade County babyyyyyy!

Both FSU and Miami are on the way back....bad weekends but I follow college football like a hawk...best talent both teams have had in years.

Oh...they're back, still kinda young @ key positions...bet your ASS they're back! Too much talent in Dade County babyyyyyy!

Both FSU and Miami are on the way back....bad weekends but I follow college football like a hawk...best talent both teams have had in years.

Back ... to being pretenders. They were utterly exposed vs VT. And though not well-publicized, last year's champ, Florida (which does not need Dade County recruits), was younger than the Canes.

As for FSU, forget it. They're through. Shambles.

Doesn't matter, duh U is NOT back!

Well...those of us who know sports are not going to base an entire program's status on one ballgame. Back or not back, Miami lost to a good Virginia Tech team in Blacksburg during a driving rainstorm. I'm no Miami fan, but they are definitely a solid team with a bright future.

Back ... to being pretenders. They were utterly exposed vs VT. And though not well-publicized, last year's champ, Florida (which does not need Dade County recruits), was younger than the Canes.

As for FSU, forget it. They're through. Shambles.

Again...real sports fans don't toss out a team after one loss. FSU is through? I guess they'll be eliminating football as an intercollegiate sport in Tallahassee then.

Florida (or Alabama) on collision course with Texas ?

Film at eleven ...

Again in the words of Lee Corso..."not so fast my friend".....Texas and Florida haven't played a quality opponent to date....we shall see....lotta crazy football left in the season. ..Stay tuned......

And Alabama has a young QB....he's going to cost them a game or two...

Again in the words of Lee Corso..."not so fast my friend".....Texas and Florida haven't played a quality opponent to date....we shall see....lotta crazy football left in the season. ..Stay tuned......
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And Alabama has a young QB....he's going to cost them a game or two...

Well this early into the season, the list of teams that HAVE beaten quality opponents is pretty short..

Alabama
Boise State
Virginia Tech
Oklahoma State
Houston
Iowa
California
Miami
Brigham Young
Oregon

That's it.

Again in the words of Lee Corso..."not so fast my friend".....Texas and Florida haven't played a quality opponent to date....we shall see....lotta crazy football left in the season. ..Stay tuned......

And Alabama has a young QB....he's going to cost them a game or two...

Are you serious??, if anything McElroy has elevated the Alabama offense from last year.

Again...real sports fans don't toss out a team after one loss. FSU is through? I guess they'll be eliminating football as an intercollegiate sport in Tallahassee then.

Correction: real sports fans don't fall for hype, false hope and retro-swagger. In the case of Miami, they were 7-6 last year and had two wins this year over poor teams, including FSU. Then were obviously dismantled by a VT team that had been previously dismantled by Bama. And watch Miami get dismantled by OU next week.

FSU is even more clear-cut. They are losing four and five games every year now, and are falling farther and farther behind Florida in the recruiting wars.

Well...those of us who know sports are not going to base an entire program's status on one ballgame. Back or not back, Miami lost to a good Virginia Tech team in Blacksburg during a driving rainstorm. I'm no Miami fan, but they are definitely a solid team with a bright future.

How about basing their status on the past four years then ?

Oh, of course I forgot that it rained on Miami and not on Virginia Tech. :ohno:

Correction: real sports fans don't fall for hype, false hope and retro-swagger. In the case of Miami, they were 7-6 last year and had two wins this year over poor teams, including FSU. Then were obviously dismantled by a VT team that had been previously dismantled by Bama. And watch Miami get dismantled by OU next week.

FSU is even more clear-cut. They are losing four and five games every year now, and are falling farther and farther behind Florida in the recruiting wars.

I would be going nuts if I were an FSU fan right now, who saw this horrific disaster coming for this football program?.

This season has seen this team shit out a win against Jacksonville State, and lose to South Florida. If this handwriting isnt one the wall for Bowden and his football program, maybe going back to being a school for women would not be such a bad idea.

I would be going nuts if I were an FSU fan right now, who saw this horrific disaster coming for this football program?.

This season has seen this team shit out a win against Jacksonville State, and lose to South Florida. If this handwriting isnt one the wall for Bowden and his football program, maybe going back to being a school for women would not be such a bad idea.

There is talk among FSU fans now of actually dropping Florida from its schedule! FSU has become the fourth-best team in Florida.

Correction: real sports fans don't fall for hype, false hope and retro-swagger. In the case of Miami, they were 7-6 last year and had two wins this year over poor teams, including FSU. Then were obviously dismantled by a VT team that had been previously dismantled by Bama. And watch Miami get dismantled by OU next week.

FSU is even more clear-cut. They are losing four and five games every year now, and are falling farther and farther behind Florida in the recruiting wars.


Who said anything about hype or any of that other garbage? I based my opinion on watching Miami play its first 3 games...they are good. A bad outing doesn't change that for real fans of the sport.

VT was not dismantled by Alabama...34-24? If you call that a dismantling then you really don't know sports.

Miami has played 3 teams ranked in the top 25...call it whatever you want, but that is not playing "poor teams". Like I said, I'm not a Miami fan but I also don't let my allegiences blind me into making lame statements - but you obviously do. Miami is a good team and we'll find out more next weekend when Oklahoma comes to town.

There is talk among FSU fans now of actually dropping Florida from its schedule! FSU has become the fourth-best team in Florida.

Great reporting! One game makes a team have a certain "place" in the state of Florida. Stop making such foolish statements, please. It's embarassing.

Who said anything about hype or any of that other garbage? I based my opinion on watching Miami play its first 3 games...they are good. A bad outing doesn't change that for real fans of the sport.

VT was not dismantled by Alabama...34-24? If you call that a dismantling then you really don't know sports.

Miami has played 3 teams ranked in the top 25...call it whatever you want, but that is not playing "poor teams". Like I said, I'm not a Miami fan but I also don't let my allegiences blind me into making lame statements - but you obviously do. Miami is a good team and we'll find out more next weekend when Oklahoma comes to town.

You watched Miami eke out a win over the fourth-best team in Florida, then win its circle-the-calender game over a bad GT team, then get utterly dismantled by a VT team that had been previously dismantled by Bama. And indeed, Bama dismantled VT. That game was manifestly NOT as close as the score would indicate.

And then you toss in the red-herring of 'blind allegience', clearly a concocted charge if you've followed my other posts.

BTW, it did rain on Miami but not on VT, right ?

I would be going nuts if I were an FSU fan right now, who saw this horrific disaster coming for this football program?.

This season has seen this team shit out a win against Jacksonville State, and lose to South Florida. If this handwriting isnt one the wall for Bowden and his football program, maybe going back to being a school for women would not be such a bad idea.


South Florida is no pushover...in 2007 they were ranked as high as #5 and beat Auburn, Louisville, and West Virginia. I guess that spelled the end for those teams as well, huh? :ohno:

Who said anything about hype or any of that other garbage? I based my opinion on watching Miami play its first 3 games...they are good. A bad outing doesn't change that for real fans of the sport.

VT was not dismantled by Alabama...34-24? If you call that a dismantling then you really don't know sports.

Miami has played 3 teams ranked in the top 25...call it whatever you want, but that is not playing "poor teams". Like I said, I'm not a Miami fan but I also don't let my allegiences blind me into making lame statements - but you obviously do. Miami is a good team and we'll find out more next weekend when Oklahoma comes to town.

Umm..Alabama dominated the stats sheet on both sides of the ball, the game in my mind was never in doubt.

South Florida is no pushover...in 2007 they were ranked as high as #5 and beat Auburn, Louisville, and West Virginia. I guess that spelled the end for those teams as well, huh? :ohno:

That was 2007, im thinking we are now talking about 2009.

You watched Miami eke out a win over the fourth-best team in Florida, then win its circle-the-calender game over a bad GT team, then get utterly dismantled by a VT team that had been previously dismantled by Bama. And indeed, Bama dismantled VT. That game was manifestly NOT as close as the score would indicate.

And then you toss in the red-herring of 'blind allegience', clearly a concocted charge if you've followed my other posts.

BTW, it did rain on Miami but not on VT, right ?

Oh, I've followed enough of your posts to see what this is about...and I've known enough fans who were blinded by a rabid support for their team and a hatred for certain other teams' success. I don't have to see anymore to recognize it for what it is.

"The game was not as close as the score indicated"...I love that excuse!

As a real football fan would understand, pouring rain isn't nearly as detrimental to a ground attack team as it is to a passing oriented team. I wouldn't expect you to know that.

Great reporting! One game makes a team have a certain "place" in the state of Florida. Stop making such foolish statements, please. It's embarassing.

The only poster who's embarrassing himself is the one proclaiming 'back' a team which managed all of 15 yards rushing and was utterly dominated by a team which had to start a true freshman QB.

If that's the kind of performance it takes to be 'back', I'm proclaiming Duke the next juggernaut!

That was 2007, im thinking we are now talking about 2009.

Right...but there is no need to act like South Florida is the equivalent of a high school team either. Again, it's obvious that some people are so in love with their team that they will try to elevate it by jumping on any perceived weakness of a rival team. It's painfully obvious...and immature...and so many other things. But keep going if you wish - it's kinda funny.

The only poster who's embarrassing himself is the one proclaiming 'back' a team which managed all of 15 yards rushing and was utterly dominated by a team which had to start a true freshman QB.

If that's the kind of performance it takes to be 'back', I'm proclaiming Duke the next juggernaut!

Keep going...I'm getting a good laugh at each of your posts. You're hilarious!:lol:

Oh, I've followed enough of your posts to see what this is about...and I've known enough fans who were blinded by a rabid support for their team and a hatred for certain other teams' success. I don't have to see anymore to recognize it for what it is.

"The game was not as close as the score indicated"...I love that excuse!

As a real football fan would understand, pouring rain isn't nearly as detrimental to a ground attack team as it is to a passing oriented team. I wouldn't expect you to know that.

A 'real football' fan would have noticed that it wasn't the rain, but the pass-rush and coverage that stifled Jacory Harris, that VT did not have trouble passing, and that Miami had trouble running.

And I'll take my rabid support over the sort of frantic reasonings that have one of the nation's poorest defenses and rushing offenses 'back.'

Keep going...I'm getting a good laugh at each of your posts. You're hilarious!:lol:

No, hilarious is the lacrosse conference (ACC) trying to play football. :nuts::lol:

^^ You are both right and wrong. Dale, USF is no pushover. I actually beleive they made it to number 2 in the crazy year of 2007. They are a very solid program. Im in the middle with UM. They are in no means back to the dominant years of '83-'94 and then from '00-'02, but they aren't horrible either. VT took them apart this past weekend. It happens, it's college football. I will say though WeimieLvr, that same VT team was dominated by Bama. Were it not for special teams (which I know is part of the game) the score would have been more lopsided towards Bama. They ran up and down the field on VT. It really wasn't as close as the score indicates.

^^ You are both right and wrong. Dale, USF is no pushover. I actually beleive they made it to number 2 in the crazy year of 2007. They are a very solid program. Im in the middle with UM. They are in no means back to the dominant years of '83-'94 and then from '00-''02, but they aren't horrible either. VT took them apart this past weekend. It happens, it's college football. I will say though WeimieLvr, that same VT team was dominated by Bama. Were it not for special teams (which I know is part of the game) the score would have been more lopsided towards Bama. They ran up and down the field on VT. It really wasn't as close as the score indicates.

I never said that USF is a pushover. Indeed, they have acquired the reputation, in recent years, of being a giant-killer, and is very likely the second-best program in the state at this time.

What made the loss to USF so striking is: (a) the manner in which FSU was throttled and (b) the fact that USF had to start a freshman QB.

What's the deal with LSU anyway ? I thought maybe the shaky performance vs Wash was an aberration, maybe relating to cross-country travel. But they've been shaky since. Is Jefferson not performing as hoped ?

Not really...To me they have several weaknesses...defensive and offensive lines, defensive backfield allows some unnecessary catches, although, I WILL SAY that the stand at the end of the game against MSU last Saturday was one of the best stands I've ever seen in college football. MSU was 4 inches from the goal line and couldn't get it in in 4 downs....that is impressive. Talk radio over here basically says that LSU is playing up to par with each opponent every week and that is why they are undefeated. We'll see if that continues. In college football, blowouts impress me. Different story in the NFL, of course, but, you expect LSU to really beat up on a MSU team that is unranked. Time will tell....big LSU games are on the horizon.

I never said that USF is a pushover. Indeed, they have acquired the reputation, in recent years, of being a giant-killer, and is very likely the second-best program in the state at this time.

What made the loss to USF so striking is: (a) the manner in which FSU was throttled and (b) the fact that USF had to start a freshman QB.

True. Make no mistake either, the right team won that game. I was surprised they looked as good as they did with a freshman QB as well. It helped that this FSU squad has a Jeckyll and Hyde element to it, but I take nothing away from USF.

Not really...To me they have several weaknesses...defensive and offensive lines, defensive backfield allows some unnecessary catches, although, I WILL SAY that the stand at the end of the game against MSU last Saturday was one of the best stands I've ever seen in college football. MSU was 4 inches from the goal line and couldn't get it in in 4 downs....that is impressive. Talk radio over here basically says that LSU is playing up to par with each opponent every week and that is why they are undefeated. We'll see if that continues. In college football, blowouts impress me. Different story in the NFL, of course, but, you expect LSU to really beat up on a MSU team that is unranked. Time will tell....big LSU games are on the horizon.

I would of though that Les Miles would be on the hot seat after what happened in Starkville Saturday. I think this week game against UGA will say alot about where LSU is in the scheme of things.

BTW I wasnt really shocked about USF beating FSU, again it says alot about where the FSU football program is right now. And what about Houston, they are 2-0 against the Big 12 this season.

FSU is back!

FSU is back!

I see you did some growing up since last week...way to go!:lol:

I see you did some growing up since last week...way to go!:lol:

FSU sure didn't. 5-6 vs Div I competition since last season. :lol:

FSU sure didn't. 5-6 vs Div I competition since last season. :lol:

You betta hope Tebow comes back...concussion is serious biz....Qbs just can't keep that up....IMO...FSU lost to two good teams that'll probably get ranked with another win or so.

Maybe it's early, but I'm not thoroughly impressed with Florida this year..last with Percy Harvin...I think they had a better team.

Funny how you keep dissing Miami and FSU...YOU know they're gonna be great programs again....just a matter of time. ALL great programs go through this...Alabama, LSU, Nebraska, Oklahoma....etc.

I've been following college football a LONGGGGG time and in 80s and 90s (pre-old ball coach)..the only were only two teams in Florida; Miami and FSU. I remember Herschel Walker with GA, Auburn and Alabama and LSU being top dogs in the SEC....but Florida Gators....they had some good years but being perennial SEC contenders...I just don't remember that.

I've always liked Miami...(dat swagger...it'll be back)

You betta hope Tebow comes back...concussion is serious biz....Qbs just can't keep that up....IMO...FSU lost to two good teams that'll probably get ranked with another win or so.

Maybe it's early, but I'm not thoroughly impressed with Florida this year..last with Percy Harvin...I think they had a better team.

Funny how you keep dissing Miami and FSU...YOU know they're gonna be great programs again....just a matter of time. ALL great programs go through this...Alabama, LSU, Nebraska, Oklahoma....etc.

I've been following college football a LONGGGGG time and in 80s and 90s (pre-old ball coach)..the only were only two teams in Florida; Miami and FSU. I remember Herschel Walker with GA, Auburn and Alabama and LSU being top dogs in the SEC....but Florida Gators....they had some good years but being perennial SEC contenders...I just don't remember that.

I've always liked Miami...(dat swagger...it'll be back)

Well, we really don't know that either FSU or Miami will be great again. Look at Notre Dame. Look at Nebraska.

Well damn! Miami knocks off OU! I dont want to make any excuses but missing Jermaine Gresham which is an all-american and Sam Bradford a heisman trophy winner and also Broyles in the 1st half,this is like a whole different team,anyways congrats to Miami,a great win after last weeks drubbing vs VT!

Miami is going to think it's back again, but this OU team is a shell of last year's team:

No Bradford

No Gresham

4 of 5 O-Line starters gone

top two WR's gone

several defensive starters gone

Miami faced an OU team almost devoid of weaponry

...and Miami got an all-important W out of it. Pooooooor Oklahoma and its long list of excuses.

...and Miami got an all-important W out of it. Pooooooor Oklahoma and its long list of excuses.

^^No excuses,good game congrats to Miami! but dont get a big head your just now being competitve after what 5-10 years?:ohno:

Canes are back!

*chortles*

Canes are back!

*chortles*

^^just imagine if they had beaten VT,right now they would be a top 3 team!

^^just imagine if they had beaten VT,right now they would be a top 3 team!

No, their fans would be impossible to deal with.

Yay. One ACC team that is worth something. :lol: :cry: :goodnight

It's all about the Canez, b******!

*throat slash*

^^ A real Canes fan would say "It's all about the []_[]" But what team do you go for, are you fan of any program out there?

Anyways, considering the Cane's remaing schedule, they very easily can go 11-1. Lets see where that takes them at the end of the year.


Unless they pull another Blacksburg stunt

^^ A real Canes fan would say "It's all about the []_[]" But what team do you go for, are you fan of any program out there?

Anyways, considering the Cane's remaing schedule, they very easily can go 11-1. Lets see where that takes them at the end of the year.


Unless they pull another Blacksburg stunt

Gator fan here.

And if by 'back' it is meant, back to being respectable, I quite agree with that. I just don't get the swagger thing based on the teams that Miami has beaten thus far.

Gator fan here.

And if by 'back' it is meant, back to being respectable, I quite agree with that. I just don't get the swagger thing based on the teams that Miami has beaten thus far.

^^beaten 3/4 top 25 teams so far!florida has beaten how many top 25 so far?

^^beaten 3/4 top 25 teams so far!florida has beaten how many top 25 so far?

Florida has nothing to apologize for, as it has won national championships two out of three years, last year with the toughest schedule in the nation, playing 13 bowl teams, annihilating the 2007 national champ and then closing the season with a flourish, beating #1 teams back-to-back.

Florida has nothing to apologize for, as it has won national championships two out of three years, last year with the toughest schedule in the nation, playing 13 bowl teams, annihilating the 2007 national champ and then closing the season with a flourish, beating #1 teams back-to-back.

I thought we were talking about this year?

I thought we were talking about this year?

I haven't been talking about Florida at all.

Kinda late to the party here but I just wanted to add an obligatory "OU SUCKS"

I haven't been talking about Florida at all.


You haven't? Back in post #209 you didn't say:

Florida has nothing to apologize for, as it has won national championships two out of three years, last year with the toughest schedule in the nation, playing 13 bowl teams, annihilating the 2007 national champ and then closing the season with a flourish, beating #1 teams back-to-back.

There must be something wrong with the site, because it's right there on my screen where you were talking about Florida. I would contact an administrator if I were you...:lol:

You haven't? Back in post #209 you didn't say:



There must be something wrong with the site, because it's right there on my screen where you were talking about Florida. I would contact an administrator if I were you...:lol:

I'm sure this provided a welcome opportunity for you to change the subject from an underachieving ACC. This is not rocket science. Florida was preseason #1 due to last year's performance and its returning personnel. Or do you really believe that Florida should have started the season unranked until it beat teams of consequence ?

Are you going to embarrass yourself again here ?

Miami is going to think it's back again, but this OU team is a shell of last year's team:

No Bradford

No Gresham

4 of 5 O-Line starters gone

top two WR's gone

several defensive starters gone

Miami faced an OU team almost devoid of weaponry

Hey OU is still OU. Just like the old days..OU v. Miami is always a great game whether it's for the national championship or a non-conference schedule game. Good game for Miami.

I just hope their fans have gotten a little bit classier since they've had some down years.

Hey OU is still OU. Just like the old days..OU v. Miami is always a great game whether it's for the national championship or a non-conference schedule game. Good game for Miami.

I just hope their fans have gotten a little bit classier since they've had some down years.

Based on what I've read, they haven't.

I haven't been talking about Florida at all.

Not true. You were talking about Florida...

I'm sure this provided a welcome opportunity for you to change the subject from an underachieving ACC. This is not rocket science. Florida was preseason #1 due to last year's performance and its returning personnel. Or do you really believe that Florida should have started the season unranked until it beat teams of consequence ?

Are you going to embarrass yourself again here ?

I didn't say anything about football...it was just that you lied - "I haven't been talking about Florida at all". You HAVE been talking about Florida. Period. Nothing else to say about any other subject. :lol:

I didn't say anything about football...it was just that you lied - "I haven't been talking about Florida at all". You HAVE been talking about Florida. Period. Nothing else to say about any other subject. :lol:

Of course I defended Florida when its ranking into question. ridiculing the ACC. You, on the other hand, think that the ACC is a football confererence, making you the real liar. :lol:

Of course I defended Florida when its ranking into question. ridiculing the ACC. You, on the other hand, think that the ACC is a football confererence, making you the real liar. :lol:

Oh my God...are you retarded? I call you out on your lie so you accuse me of the same thing? That is SO 3rd Grade.

Whatever dude, you lied. It's all in black and white.

I just hope their fans have gotten a little bit classier since they've had some down years.

I'm not trying to argue or counter anything you've said. I'm legitimately clueless on this stereotype you're talking about. Im not actually a Canes fan, I kinda just jumped on the bandwagon this year, mainly because I live in Miami now and the team is sparking interest again. Are the fans infamous for something? I know about the team being pretty notorious in the 80's with its inner city recruitment.

I'm not trying to argue or counter anything you've said. I'm legitimately clueless on this stereotype you're talking about. Im not actually a Canes fan, I kinda just jumped on the bandwagon this year, mainly because I live in Miami now and the team is sparking interest again. Are the fans infamous for something? I know about the team being pretty notorious in the 80's with its inner city recruitment.

Yes, Canes fans are famous for something: they're typically bandwagoners.

I'm a die hard canes fan and have been for a few decades now. The team has definitely turned the corner. Are they back to where they were in the late 80s or 2001, no but give them another year or two and they may. As for Florida, I never really cared either way, but after moving to Jax, their fans can be quite obnoxious and are just as liable to jump on and off the bandwagon as any other team's fans. Anyway, I would love for Florida to stop dodging them and put them on their schedule every year like it should be. Its time to let the rivarly come back to what it was before Miami reeled off that long winning streak.

I'm a die hard canes fan and have been for a few decades now. The team has definitely turned the corner. Are they back to where they were in the late 80s or 2001, no but give them another year or two and they may. As for Florida, I never really cared either way, but after moving to Jax, their fans can be quite obnoxious and are just as liable to jump on and off the bandwagon as any other team's fans. Anyway, I would love for Florida to stop dodging them and put them on their schedule every year like it should be. Its time to let the rivarly come back to what it was before Miami reeled off that long winning streak.

More cautionary a view on the Cane's future prospects than I'm used to hearing, but hogwash on the bandwagoning tendencies of UF fans. Yes, UF may have its front-runners, but in terms of loyal fanbase, it has no equal in the state of Florida.

Yep. The Florida State fan base has begun revolting.
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My only question is what in the heck is Tebow doing in Tallahassee at a time like this?!?

FSU is back!

Its sad to see what is happening at FSU, but Bowden did let it get to this point.

Meanwhile, there is very little buzz for the Bama-Ole Miss game. Alabama is favored by 14 while Ole Miss is reeling from sub par performances vs South Carolina and Vandy. This game was suppose to determine the front runner in the SEC West.

I think its sad that UF is trying to force Tebo to play this weekend. The guy has a brain injury, not a hurt ankle or ingrown toenail. Its typical to sit out least two weeks with these types of injuries. If the guy plays and takes a lick in the right spot, Meyer will have more to worry about than him missing the LSU game.

I think its sad that UF is trying to force Tebo to play this weekend. The guy has a brain injury, not a hurt ankle or ingrown toenail. Its typical to sit out least two weeks with these types of injuries. If the guy plays and takes a lick in the right spot, Meyer will have more to worry about than him missing the LSU game.

You're in rare form tonight. This is sheer nonsense as well. In fact, you're lying. No one is going to 'force' Tebow to play. Furthermore, it's hubris on your part that you would presume to know more than Tebow's physicians, who have nothing to gain by rushing him back into action.

Whoa, it looks like I hit a nerve (don't take it serious, just good sports talk). Nevertheless, it is funny to see all of these ESPN reports about is he going to play or not and Urb looking all nervous. Just sit the guy down for a while so his brains won't be one hit away from being scrambled eggs.

Whoa, it looks like I hit a nerve (don't take it serious, just good sports talk). Nevertheless, it is funny to see all of these ESPN reports about is he going to play or not and Urb looking all nervous. Just sit the guy down for a while so his brains won't be one hit away from being scrambled eggs.

I happen to know firsthand that LSU fans are hoping (praying) that Tebow sits.

Of course they do. They want him to sit almost as much as Gator fans wanted him to return to school.
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Of course they do. They want him to sit almost as much as Gator fans wanted him to return to school.
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Your heart sunk when he made the announcement, didn't it ?

Nope.

I did the dance of joy.
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I did the dance of joy.
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I always figured you for having a man-crush on Tebow. Colt is bound to feel jilted, though.

No, it's really more of a fear of eternal damnation, rather than a "man-crush" as you put it, that prevents me from refusing to accept Tebow.

http://blogs.trb.com/sports/zakks-sports-smack/tebow-jesus.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a78/nursetpd/Florida/Tebow_is_Risen.jpg

That's Tebow in the Highest to you, pal.

Wow. Good stuff guys. Looking forward to this weekend.

How about a Wisconsin Badgers game?

http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/393/dsc0040s.jpg

I'm from New Orleans, and I've always hated LSU. I hope FLA pounds them. Couldn't happen to a better bunch of ***holes. BEAT LSU!

I'm from New Orleans, and I've always hated LSU. I hope FLA pounds them. Couldn't happen to a better bunch of ***holes. BEAT LSU!

You're welcome! :cheers:

Red River Rivalry this coming weekend! any predictions?

^^ Texas in a close one, hard fought, OU's defense is going to give the Texas offense a lot of trouble

The matchup will be OU's offense vs Texas defense. OU's offense has shown that they are not great against equal talent and the Texas defense will be the best defense they will play all season. Not to mention the amount of injuries and inexperience that are against them.

OU didn't show me anything Vs Miami. Very disappointing.

Bama's next game is a trap game, but.........

Steve Spurrier just 'hopes we can get it in a close game' against Alabama

By Gentry Estes, Mobile Press-Register
October 11, 2009, 3:19PM


Steve Spurrier isn't relishing his first visit to Bryant-Denny Stadium as South Carolina's head coach, at least not right now.

"Obviously, it's the best team we've played by far," Spurrier said today. "Ole Miss, even though they were ranked highly, I think it appears now they're not as quite as good a team as in preseason people thought. We'll have a plan in place. We're certainly not going to be favored against Alabama, but we'll have a plan in place. "We're a team that hopes we can get it in a close game. It seems like every one of our games have been very close at halftime, anyway. Then we've played pretty decently in the second half in most of them. We'll hope this game follows that script right there."


South Carolina quietly has produced a solid start in Spurrier's fifth season in Columbia. This team has a chance to go down as the best edition Spurrier has coached at the school, since he failed to win more than eight games in any of his first four years. The Gamecocks climbed to No. 22 in today's AP poll after improving to 5-1 with a 28-26 home victory yesterday over Kentucky. They will be Alabama's homecoming opponent for the 2009 season.

"We're excited about it. We'll be loose and relaxed going there," Spurrier said. "There's not a lot of pressure on our guys, except just play the best we can. We'll try to have a go at them and see what happens."

Breaking News:

After suffering the first concussion in history, Tebow returns to the gridiron. Still alive. Can still spell his own name.

More at eleven.

The matchup will be OU's offense vs Texas defense. OU's offense has shown that they are not great against equal talent and the Texas defense will be the best defense they will play all season. Not to mention the amount of injuries and inexperience that are against them.

What are you talking about and where have you been in the college football world? Haven't you heard..Bradford injured..Bradford returns. Do you really think UT's defense is the best OU will play all season? I'm calling bluff on that. Probably Miami. UT's defense is probably par with KU or OSU.

I just think that one statistic sums up the whole Red River Shootout: Big 12 Titles. Bob Stoops 6, Mack Brown 1.