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Aussie Bhoy March 17th, 2004, 03:09 PM No mention of this for a while, does anyone know what is going on?
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Brizzy-Mike March 18th, 2004, 01:11 AM Daft scheme I think, if they want a vehicular bridge why aim it straight at the university, it should go to the side. If it is for public transport only why not do a much cheaper pedestrian bridge. Pro PT as I may be buses are quite noisy and are going to have quite an impact on the University. The public pressure to have the bridge opened to other transport will be unstoppable, adding more traffic to the university area.
Orfeo March 18th, 2004, 02:46 AM It is not a draft scheme. They are currently out on the river do rock foundation testing, with tenders for construction to be submitted by May and contruction to begin in October (end 2006)
It will never be a vehicular bridge because the govenment has signed a document stating such, essentially UQ could sue them for incredible amounts of money. There will be no travel by bus through the university campus: they will cross the bridge and go into a roudabout-like area where they will drop people off, then get back on the bridge.
I think the buses should have been able to go through the campus, but since this wont happen I feel a pedestrian bridge would suffice. I guess the BCC doesn't think so....
Orfeo March 18th, 2004, 06:46 AM http://images.fotopic.net/?id=3340160&outx=600&noresize=1&nostamp=1
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Aussie Bhoy March 18th, 2004, 12:38 PM Going by what you guys have said it seems crazy that they are spending what would be a lot more money, just for a bus bridge that goes nowhere. Surely it would make more sense for buses to terminate near Dutton Park, and the bridge to be a much cheaper, and smaller pedestrian one.
GMAC March 18th, 2004, 01:36 PM I have to agree with Aussie Bhoy. Why can't the buses go through the university??? Surely it would make sense for the buses to go through to Toowong and/or Indooroopilly.
duke March 18th, 2004, 10:55 PM Originally posted by GMAC
I have to agree with Aussie Bhoy. Why can't the buses go through the university??? Surely it would make sense for the buses to go through to Toowong and/or Indooroopilly.
Yes, it would make sense. That was the original plan, however the University refused to be used as a bus thoroughfare and so we have arrived at this largely pointless compromise!
nagelixin March 19th, 2004, 12:40 AM The latest proposal was that the uni side of the bridge would have a large U shape bus interchange with NO access to the uni. Given the lack of vision from any political party and the uni this will be the go for some time.
Orfeo March 19th, 2004, 12:49 AM Surely it would make more sense for buses to terminate near Dutton Park, and the bridge to be a much cheaper, and smaller pedestrian one.
Though this makes more sense, no matter how much outrage the current proposal has caused, to do this would be political suicide....
Avatar March 19th, 2004, 04:09 AM Well maybe the dumb arses should consider spending some more funds, widening the bridge to 4 lanes and shoving a tunnel under the obstructive university.
Why can Australia never plan with foresight like other nations.
Inzaghi March 19th, 2004, 06:18 AM busses through UQ??? i don't think so... the roads around and through the university are a nightmare as they are. They are to narrow and with cars parked on both sides a bus would have no chance of getting through with out causing some damage.
If they build a bridge it should be a full traffic solution servicing the uni and linking throught to toowong. Bulldoze houses to accomidate i say. Put the link in between both.
Or build a cheap "googwill bridge" for pedestrians and leave the busses at a dutton park terminal.
TOCC March 19th, 2004, 12:27 PM well maybe the council is thinking ahead and one day is planning to have light rail running to and through the campus..... or maybe there hoping that once the bridge is completed, common sense will prevail and the busses will be allowed to run through the campus.(improvements implemented in doing so)
Or mabye the council just wants a big new shiny bridge that they can flash around....
Orfeo March 19th, 2004, 12:57 PM Well maybe the dumb arses should consider spending some more funds, widening the bridge to 4 lanes and shoving a tunnel under the obstructive university.
Why??? Anyway no. Will never happen.
well maybe the council is thinking ahead and one day is planning to have light rail running to and through the campus..... or maybe there hoping that once the bridge is completed, common sense will prevail and the busses will be allowed to run through the campus.(improvements implemented in doing so)
Or mabye the council just wants a big new shiny bridge that they can flash around....
I'm betting it's the last one....but hopefully common sense will prevail anyway.
busses through UQ??? i don't think so... the roads around and through the university are a nightmare as they are. They are to narrow and with cars parked on both sides a bus would have no chance of getting through with out causing some damage.
The main complaint by the Uni was that students would be disturbed by the buses which would roll through the campus all day. But if they went along Sir William Macgregor Drive and then onto Sir Fred Schonell Drive, i can't really see a problem because there are no teaching buildings close by (a few fields and parking lots). Roads can be widened anyway. There are other routes as well but the Uni wont accept them.
If they build a bridge it should be a full traffic solution servicing the uni and linking throught to toowong. Bulldoze houses to accomidate i say. Put the link in between both.
What houses? the Uni owns all the area and i can't see them approving to have a 'full traffic solution' through their campus. Neverless, if the Uni is freaked out by a few buses comming through the campus can you imagine what a four land road would do? :dizzy:
jellyman March 19th, 2004, 12:58 PM I heard once UQ is the biggest destination in Brisbane after CBD, so having buses to UQ that don't go through to Indooripilly is not a total waste.
JayT March 19th, 2004, 01:09 PM I love to walk long distances - its the only real way to take Brisbane in. I look forward to the day when I can do a loop through from the CBD to Dutton Park, over the bridge and through St Lucia and back along Coronation drive. Should take a few hours but it passes some interesting suburbs and at least 4 coffee precincts:D - I like my cake and coffee with my excersise.
jt
Orfeo March 19th, 2004, 01:24 PM ^^^
You can do that at the moment (and i do sometimes), you just have to be willing to catch a city cat or ferry. Great walk/ride.
JayT March 19th, 2004, 01:36 PM Originally posted by Orfeo
^^^
You can do that at the moment (and i do sometimes), you just have to be willing to catch a city cat or ferry. Great walk/ride.
Perhaps for a Brisbane get together we can organize a coffee/cake/construction crawl through some of Brisbane's most happening inner suburbs.
jt
oztraelian March 19th, 2004, 07:57 PM yeah, agreed. schedule a date - its been about 18 months!
Brizzy-Mike March 23rd, 2004, 12:04 AM What? So many building geeks and transport geeks in one cafe, it will end in a punch up - like the vegan conference in London one time when they were fighting over weather fruit should be picked off trees, whether one should wait to let the fruit fall off, or whether one was allowed to 'shake' the tree.
nagelixin March 25th, 2004, 12:28 AM If there is a change of administrations this coming weekend in Brisbane will the incoming Liberals still build this project? Or will it be scrapped?
Chrisso March 25th, 2004, 01:56 AM I noticed this morning that there's a large pontoon at the site. Could they be starting construction already? I'll try to get down there later today to get a picture.
Chrisso March 25th, 2004, 03:06 AM Looks like they're conducting some soil testing at the moment.
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Orfeo March 25th, 2004, 06:16 AM @ nagelixin
If Liberals: They havn't said they will change it but they have said that they will reopen public consultation. Probably build the project as is, with a slight possibility that it will be just a foot/bike bridge.
If Greens: Redesign as foot/bike bridge.
Chrisso May 27th, 2004, 12:52 AM It's now up for public consultation again. As I live in the local area, I recieved a letter regarding the four options available. Also available on the BCC website. Personally, I'd prefer option B, since it would encourage more people to use public transport, rather than drive to Dutton Park and leave their car at the commercial parking station. Here they are as follows:
Option A
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Key Considerations
* no change to Dutton Park parklands
* no direct bus service or pedestrian and cycle link to UQ from the eastern and southern suburbs. Ferry continues to operate
* no buses currently in Dutton Park parklands and no new bus station, bus lanes or turnaround
* 1.4 kilometres from Dutton Park train station to academic buildings
* continued increase in travel times and unreliability for bus commuters to UQ
* continued on-street parking and traffic to ferry on Dutton Park streets. No new parking scheme
* no relief of traffic travelling through St Lucia to UQ
Cost
There is no capital expenditure for this option.
Option B
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Key Considerations
* buses travel across the bridge to UQ
* faster, more reliable and more equitable access to UQ
* 120 metres from UQ bus station to academic buildings
* direct bus services from the city, Carindale and Garden City to UQ
* integrates bus and rail services
* new bus lanes in Dutton Park parklands
* passenger set-down area in Dutton Park parklands
* allows restriction of non-resident parking in Dutton Park
* reduces traffic travelling through the city and St Lucia to the UQ campus
* more costly than other options
* does not connect to existing UQ and St Lucia road network
Cost
The capital cost is estimated to be $53.6 million.
Option C
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Key Considerations
* bridge only for pedestrians and cyclists
* new bus station and turnaround area in Dutton Park parklands
* 830 metres from Dutton Park bus station across the bridge to academic buildings
* commercial multi-storey car park in Dutton Park parklands
* buses access bus station along TJ Doyle Memorial Park Drive
* does not address growing traffic problem to UQ
* fewer direct bus routes and less integration of bus and rail
* narrower bridge structure than option B
* less costly than option B
* more cars, parking and people in Dutton Park streets
Cost
The capital cost is estimated to be $39 million.
Option D
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Key Considerations
* bridge only for pedestrians and cyclists
* new bus station on Annerley Road
* 1.1 kilometres from Annerley Road bus station to academic buildings
* fewer direct bus routes and less integration of bus and rail
* commercial multi-storey car park in Dutton Park parklands
* does not address growing traffic problem to UQ
* no buses using TJ Doyle Memorial Park Drive
* no bus station or passenger set-down area in Dutton Park parklands
* less costly than option B and option C
* narrower bridge structure than option B
* more cars, parking and people in Dutton Park streets
Cost
The capital cost is estimated to be $37 million.
Brizzy-Mike May 27th, 2004, 02:30 AM I don't see how the bus option 2 effects car parking congestion in the Dutton Park area compared to the pedestrian and bike options.
And here is one of those little whatsit things:banana:
GMAC May 27th, 2004, 02:34 AM There are a few things that I dont understand about all of this. Why don't option C or D address growing traffic problem to UQ? Why does a commercial car park mean more parking on Dutton Park Streets? Why cant option C or D include restricted non-resident parking, wouldnt this be more of a problem without a commercial car park option?
IMO a combination of option B and C would be ideal if the option of extending the busway through UQ was more than just a possibility. Otherwise option C.
jellyman May 27th, 2004, 09:34 AM we got the mailout in Nundah as well. I suppose as I used to study at UQ 15 years ago they must need my opinion.
Aussie Bhoy May 27th, 2004, 10:49 AM I think option C, if the busses are going to terminate on the UQ side, and can't go through to anywhere else than there is little point in spending the money to make a vehicle bridge.
Orfeo May 27th, 2004, 11:41 AM I go for option C as well, but don't want the car park because currently a lot of students walk, ride or use mass transit to get to the ferry because there is little parking...so much for encoraging people to use sustainable transit....
Plus it would be a blight on the parkland.
It is funny that you've got the letter at Nundah because I live a 10 minute walk from the site and, as far as I know, I'm yet to get a copy. I'm one of those horrible students who would be tempted to drive if I knew I could get a space (...okay, not really. I like the walk)
Ausilencer May 27th, 2004, 02:33 PM There are a few options not really considered - like a full road connection to UQ and mass upgrade of surrounding roads - obviously because of it's gigantic cost... but it's still an option, as well as full bus connection (which UQ probably wouldn't agree to)... but there are heaps of problems with this anyway... I think I'd go with A, C, or E (something else)! Ultimately I don't think any of these are going to have a significant impact on coro drive, or anywhere else for that matter (except maybe increased traffic in dutton park). It's only going to take a couple of busses an hour off coro drive, most of which would still have to run along there to service their normal stops (not just UQ).
I think perhaps the money would be better spent in the short term on getting a better bridge at indro and upgrading the road network from indro to sherwood... But I don't really know what I'm talking about and I'm writing this without putting a great deal of thought in to it (which is how I think they came up with the bridge idea in the first place...)
Aussie Bhoy May 27th, 2004, 02:52 PM I guess I'm just in favour of more bridges everywhere.
I would still like to see a pedestrian lane added to the Captain Cook bridge, and maybe something in between the Story Bridge and the Gateway, probably a tunnel would be more suitable.
When I was a kid living around Norman Park and Galloways Hill in the 70's/80's there was a well known plan for a bridge to link New Farm and Norman park.
RUM May 28th, 2004, 12:00 AM There are a few things that I dont understand about all of this. Why don't option C or D address growing traffic problem to UQ? Why does a commercial car park mean more parking on Dutton Park Streets? Why cant option C or D include restricted non-resident parking, wouldnt this be more of a problem without a commercial car park option?
IMO a combination of option B and C would be ideal if the option of extending the busway through UQ was more than just a possibility. Otherwise option C.
Take a close look at the subtlies behind each one. It looks a bit dodgy to me.
Ideally, it would be great for the buses to run all the way through the campus, howver, if UQ are going to act like a back of c*nt's about it, then the best alternative is for the buses to terminate on the Dutton Park side. Whatever option they do decide however, I do believe additional car parking spaces are required on the Dutton Park side is a must.
GMAC May 28th, 2004, 01:05 AM I got the letter last night and one thing that I did not realise is that there is more traffic going in and out of UQ (supposedly) than anywhere else in Brisbane other than the CBD. To me this doesnt change my opinion of what is the best course of action but it does highlight the severity of the situation.
I dont live in Dutton Park, but I work in West End and often drive through Dutton Park, and other than the parking issue dont see that there is that much of a problem with traffic in Dutton Park. Given that the whole area in question comes off the main road which is usually handling through traffic with very little congestion I dont see what the big deal is.
Brizzy-Mike May 28th, 2004, 01:38 AM I don't mind more bridges - but not at that site, it suits a pedestrian/cycle bridge. A vehicular bridge, taking the buses as well, should not be aimed straight into the middle of a university campus.
Brizzy-Mike May 28th, 2004, 01:39 AM Bugger, I forgot to put one of those little thingies :rant:
BrizzyChris May 28th, 2004, 04:11 AM I live in Herston, and I got one of these letters as well.
I prefer Option B. Option C and D leave no potential for bus crossings in the future. I like the fact that getting people onto the busway, will hopefully mean a big decrease in traffic along Coronation Drive, which is one of the main aims of the project.
RUM May 28th, 2004, 06:18 AM I live in Herston, and I got one of these letters as well.
I prefer Option B. Option C and D leave no potential for bus crossings in the future. I like the fact that getting people onto the busway, will hopefully mean a big decrease in traffic along Coronation Drive, which is one of the main aims of the project.
It looks like whoever put out the broshure has the same idea. The additional cost to put buses over is not that much more. Do it!
Do "Option B-rum", make some deal with UQ whereas BCC will build a multi-story UQ car parking space over on the Dutton Park side and the BCC can drive their buses through the campus via the back ringroad. Gain the additional space (for buses) by removing carparking on one side of the road and volla. Instant success...
That's my preferred option anyway.
Brizzy-Mike May 28th, 2004, 07:07 AM Those prices for the pedestrian bridge seem a bit high, a basic bridge without the fancy bits like the Goodwill one should not be so expensive. Then build a proper vehicular bridge further along not so aimed right at the campus.
nagelixin May 31st, 2004, 01:31 AM Option B - The best out of the options
Brizzy-Mike May 31st, 2004, 02:16 AM :hm:
nagelixin May 31st, 2004, 06:55 AM Option B is the best option for Bus users. In a fantasy land I would rather see an underground loop linking the Uni to Toowong and the Beenleigh/Cleveland lines
Brizzy-Mike May 31st, 2004, 07:03 AM The chances of option B being kept for buses only are rather, there was a lot of pressure on for the bridge to be a full vehicular bridge, resulting in major traffic flows into the middle of the university, so do a proper bridge, but not at this location. Do a cheaper pedestrian bridge here. :dunno:
Chrisso July 19th, 2004, 01:53 AM From the courier-mail website today:
Green bridge looks set for buses
Chris Griffith, City Hall reporter
19jul04
BRISBANE residents will see a bus and pedestrian bridge built across the Brisbane River linking Dutton Park and St Lucia.
The Brisbane City Council sent out 389,000 surveys to Brisbane residents asking them to choose from among four options – no bridge, a bus bridge and two variations of a pedestrian and cycle-only bridge.
It is understood roughly 12,000 of the 22,000 returned surveys supporting the bus bridge.
But a phone poll of 600 people conducted by research firm ACNielsen is understood to show divided support between a bus bridge and a cycle/pedestrian bridge. Despite this phone poll, Lord Mayor Campbell Newman is expected to agree today that enough Brisbane residents had backed a bus bridge for him to give the project his imprimatur.
Cr Newman went to the March election promising a second round of community consultation after a first round of surveys completed last year were destroyed.
He also expressed personal support for a pedestrian/cycle-only bridge.
Yesterday he said he would change his view if the survey "comes in strongly for a bus bridge".
Cr Newman said the Labor Party was "welded" to having a bus bridge, and the only way it could be persuaded otherwise was by a strong anti-bus-bridge vote.
The bus bridge has been opposed by residents in Dutton Park who feared convoys of buses travelling through their suburb to the University of Queensland.
St Lucia residents feared the bridge could be a precursor to traffic from the City travelling across the river and then flowing through their suburb.
The Combined Residents Against The Bus Bridge in June suggested it might consider court action to stop the bridge. Cr Newman said he respected the group's right to take legal action, but the council had to make a decision in line with the wishes of the broader Brisbane community.
Deputy Mayor David Hinchliffe said local residents had opposed the Story Bridge.
"If we adopted that attitude then the Inner City Bypass would never have been built, the South East Freeway would never be built, nor would the Story Bridge."
He said Dutton Park residents should get behind the project to make it "as locally friendly as possible" and the buses as unobtrusive as possible.
He said western suburbs residents could look forward to less university traffic flowing along Coronation Drive and Sir Fred Schonell Drive.
war hard rook August 5th, 2004, 04:16 PM Option B is the best option for Bus users. In a fantasy land I would rather see an underground loop linking the Uni to Toowong and the Beenleigh/Cleveland lines
my fantasy would be similar but involve a bit more of a figure eight loop following the exibition line from Bowen hills under Roma Street to QUT/ botanic Gardens linking at Park road and Cleveland to UQ and Towoong. All the pocket peninsulas of the Brissy river deserve the benefiitial seclusion that the natural geography provides. High density transit could encourage a dynamic metro system...
I heard once UQ is the biggest destination in Brisbane after CBD, so having buses to UQ that don't go through to Indooripilly is not a total waste.
If this is so, high density transit is appropriate....
well maybe the council is thinking ahead and one day is planning to have light rail running to and through the campus..... or maybe there hoping that once the bridge is completed, common sense will prevail and the busses will be allowed to run through the campus.(improvements implemented in doing so)
My fear is that it'll be engineered to take full traffic under the guise of a being a bus route and in 5-10 yrs - policy change...
But any padestrian routes with a 1.1km walk really means that it could be quicker to catch a bus via corro, then walk... or catch a ferry. People tend to only want to walk 600m. i know students can be a liitle more industrious but Annerly Rd (option D) bus station is shite....
You can do that at the moment (and i do sometimes), you just have to be willing to catch a city cat or ferry. Great walk/ride.
What i want to know is what did UQ get from the BCC to drop its initial blanket opposition to the project...
It will never be a vehicular bridge because the govenment has signed a document stating such, essentially UQ could sue them for incredible amounts of money. There will be no travel by bus through the university campus: they will cross the bridge and go into a roudabout-like area where they will drop people off, then get back on the bridge.
i believe theres something in this. Where did this come from Orfeo...
Orfeo August 6th, 2004, 02:13 AM To answer your last few points, UQ would only agree to a bus-carrying bridge if no buses actually travelled through the campus let alone cars. The BCC didn't particularly like this, but faced with the project not going ahead they agreed. To ensure this actually happened the uni required the BCC to sign a document they wrote up pretty much saying that the bridge can only be used for buses (and I think taxis for the disabled..) for the next 100 years. BCC signed and they would be really stupid to break it.
I've also heard rumor of a payout, but that was from "Residents against the bus bridge" or some similar group, so I'm not sure if they're totally reliable...
Danubis November 6th, 2004, 08:42 AM have they started building the bridge yet? last i heard they were doin soil tests and stuff, bout that was months ago.
Orfeo November 6th, 2004, 08:56 AM No. According to the Courier Mail this week they're not even close to starting and the cost has already blown out by $500,000. Doesn't it make you feel all warm and fuzzy?
Ausilencer November 6th, 2004, 10:49 AM *cough* goodwill bridge *cough*
*cough* coronation drive *cough*
Danubis November 13th, 2004, 04:16 PM so i take thats a no kids?
Danubis November 13th, 2004, 04:19 PM It's now up for public consultation again. As I live in the local area, I recieved a letter regarding the four options available. Also available on the BCC website. Personally, I'd prefer option B, since it would encourage more people to use public transport, rather than drive to Dutton Park and leave their car at the commercial parking station. Here they are as follows:
Option A
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid118/p60f6a23c1389131fcec31ee2c4e2e263/f886678a.jpg
Key Considerations
* no change to Dutton Park parklands
* no direct bus service or pedestrian and cycle link to UQ from the eastern and southern suburbs. Ferry continues to operate
* no buses currently in Dutton Park parklands and no new bus station, bus lanes or turnaround
* 1.4 kilometres from Dutton Park train station to academic buildings
* continued increase in travel times and unreliability for bus commuters to UQ
* continued on-street parking and traffic to ferry on Dutton Park streets. No new parking scheme
* no relief of traffic travelling through St Lucia to UQ
Cost
There is no capital expenditure for this option.
Option B
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid118/pc51f325acc2ae0986aa4481571d10f7d/f8866786.jpg
Key Considerations
* buses travel across the bridge to UQ
* faster, more reliable and more equitable access to UQ
* 120 metres from UQ bus station to academic buildings
* direct bus services from the city, Carindale and Garden City to UQ
* integrates bus and rail services
* new bus lanes in Dutton Park parklands
* passenger set-down area in Dutton Park parklands
* allows restriction of non-resident parking in Dutton Park
* reduces traffic travelling through the city and St Lucia to the UQ campus
* more costly than other options
* does not connect to existing UQ and St Lucia road network
Cost
The capital cost is estimated to be $53.6 million.
Option C
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Key Considerations
* bridge only for pedestrians and cyclists
* new bus station and turnaround area in Dutton Park parklands
* 830 metres from Dutton Park bus station across the bridge to academic buildings
* commercial multi-storey car park in Dutton Park parklands
* buses access bus station along TJ Doyle Memorial Park Drive
* does not address growing traffic problem to UQ
* fewer direct bus routes and less integration of bus and rail
* narrower bridge structure than option B
* less costly than option B
* more cars, parking and people in Dutton Park streets
Cost
The capital cost is estimated to be $39 million.
Option D
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid118/p8651d1b35a1b7efcaa3b4e911ad6421e/f8866783.jpg
Key Considerations
* bridge only for pedestrians and cyclists
* new bus station on Annerley Road
* 1.1 kilometres from Annerley Road bus station to academic buildings
* fewer direct bus routes and less integration of bus and rail
* commercial multi-storey car park in Dutton Park parklands
* does not address growing traffic problem to UQ
* no buses using TJ Doyle Memorial Park Drive
* no bus station or passenger set-down area in Dutton Park parklands
* less costly than option B and option C
* narrower bridge structure than option B
* more cars, parking and people in Dutton Park streets
Cost
The capital cost is estimated to be $37 million.
just to remind people what this project is all about... come on people, get excited!!!
Danubis November 13th, 2004, 04:22 PM picture of the actual bridge proposal -
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/danubiis/image3521.jpg
queenslands only cable suspension bridge perhaps? i dont know of any others like it in qld.
Blend November 13th, 2004, 04:22 PM why does the option A for the green bridge, not include a bridge. :S
Orfeo November 14th, 2004, 05:11 AM ^
That was the option for the locals to select if they didn't want a bridge. But has alredy been mentioned it was very skewed to option B.
BrizzyChris November 14th, 2004, 08:00 AM Granted a cable-stayed bridge looks very nice, but there is absolutely no need for one here, especially considering the budget is bound to blow out as usual.
Macca-GC November 14th, 2004, 03:56 PM picture of the actual bridge proposal -
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/danubiis/image3521.jpg
queenslands only cable suspension bridge perhaps? i dont know of any others like it in qld.
There is the pedestrian suspension bridge over the M1 just south of MovieWorld.
Danubis November 14th, 2004, 04:11 PM bridges only count if they go over water :tongue4:
Macca-GC November 14th, 2004, 04:13 PM The M1 resembled a river when we got that 300mm of rain
Brizzy-Mike November 15th, 2004, 06:10 AM How come there was no option for a bus turnaround at Dutton Park and the comercial multi-storey carpark somewhere else. The bus turnaround is just a bit of tarmac.
Orfeo November 15th, 2004, 09:50 AM ^
Then the council would have lost. Very few locals voted for options C and D because they didn't want the carpark. If they had put it elsewhere or gotten rid of it quite a few more people would have voted for the tow last options.
JayT December 2nd, 2004, 07:13 AM There is the pedestrian suspension bridge over the M1 just south of MovieWorld.
There is also a cable suspention bridge at Indooroopilly.
jt
JayT December 2nd, 2004, 07:19 AM picture of the actual bridge proposal -
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/danubiis/image3521.jpg
queenslands only cable suspension bridge perhaps? i dont know of any others like it in qld.
Actually there are a couple at Indrops.
http://www.ourindooroopilly.com/graphics/bridge.jpg
^^
Walter Taylor bridge
Below - pedestrian bridge.
http://members.optushome.com.au/clanmclaren/images/brisba38.jpg
jt
Malt December 2nd, 2004, 09:52 AM i heard somehting about it on the news today. I didnt watch the story, but it was something about locals protesting or somehting
Danubis April 20th, 2005, 04:01 PM there must be some news on this bloody bridge since december last year!!! its like 5 months ago?????????!!! jebus.
Malt April 20th, 2005, 04:12 PM way to dig up an old thread DANUBIS
GMAC April 21st, 2005, 01:21 AM Well they have started construction, or at least construction of a jetty to help with construction of the bridge. At least I think I saw that on the news the other day.
BrizzyChris April 21st, 2005, 02:34 AM Does anyone on this forum think they will ever actually use this bridge? I know the only reason I would is if I was going on some super-long bike ride.
Orfeo April 21st, 2005, 02:39 AM ^
Yep. I was speaking to a few of the workers, and supposedly the jetty was meant to be finished by now to get the bridge completed within the allotted time...but they're still shoving supports into the ground. Will probably been done in a few weeks.
They've also ripped up the turf on the former Ecuadorian football club, fenced off the area and cut off the road limiting the amount of parking in the area.
Ellatur April 21st, 2005, 03:04 AM looks a little narror for cities like brisbane
Orfeo April 21st, 2005, 03:13 AM ^
it is only carrying pedestrians, bike riders and 2 lanes for buses.
http://www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/bccwr/images/transport/green_bridge_2.gif
Oriolus April 21st, 2005, 03:41 AM Is that a new design Orfeo? The older one Danubis posted is practicly identical to Anzac Bridge, and I think I like it better.
http://www.arcticrhythms.com/img/tvl/syd/anzacBridge01_med.jpg
New one's got a kind of Bolte look about it (except the towers actually serve a purpose)
Malt April 21st, 2005, 03:42 AM ^^ bith very true statements.
I never made the connections
GMAC April 21st, 2005, 06:17 AM BrizzyChris, I know that I will never use it and think its a bit of a waste of money, of course if they put another bridge From the end of Montague Road over to St Lucia and made it part of a light rail loop through West End then I wouldnt mind so much!!
As for the design I like the one that is more similar to Bolte Bridge.
Grantus April 21st, 2005, 06:39 AM can someone plot to me where this bridge is going on a map? Im a bit confused :/
Danubis April 21st, 2005, 07:53 AM *considers plotting to grantus*
Grantus April 21st, 2005, 08:23 AM heh, i thought it was a good word to use :P well, it sounds ok when I say it out loud anyhow :)
Oriolus April 21st, 2005, 08:30 AM lol. There's no need for anyone to do any plotting. There's a map in the first post of this thread which has already been plotted with the location of the bridge.
http://www.ourindooroopilly.com/graphics/gb2.gif
Chrisso April 21st, 2005, 08:33 AM The location is shown in red. I catch the Dutton Park ferry every day, so I'll try to get some pictures of the construction progress
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/chrisso/Brisbane/map0PCF0KWNTM6ZKPWXW.jpg
Grantus April 21st, 2005, 08:41 AM great! i now understand :) I swear, i looked all over this thread, but must of seen one of those red crosses instead, lol
nagelixin April 21st, 2005, 01:37 PM great! i now understand :) I swear, i looked all over this thread, but must of seen one of those red crosses instead, lol
Just remember that on the uni side of the bridge it will only be a giant U turn Bus Stop, and that no buses will continue on to Toowong etc...
Macca-GC April 21st, 2005, 02:31 PM They would have to have a permanent bus ferrying people from either Park Rd or Dutton Park Stations. And it should be a free service for UQ students.
nikko April 21st, 2005, 02:53 PM That's the plan...apparently.
Orfeo April 22nd, 2005, 03:35 AM They would have to have a permanent bus ferrying people from either Park Rd or Dutton Park Stations. And it should be a free service for UQ students.
It will be free for everybody that catches the train because it is all within one zone.
Chrisso April 25th, 2005, 03:58 AM A few pics taken this morning of the start of construction:
Jetty
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/chrisso/Brisbane/Gbr_250405_1.jpg
Compound which used to be the Ecuadorian soccer club
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/chrisso/Brisbane/Gbr_250405_2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/chrisso/Brisbane/Gbr_250405_3.jpg
Grantus April 25th, 2005, 05:58 AM this project has started already... Good stuff. I was shure it was gunna take a few months yet :/
Orfeo June 6th, 2005, 04:54 AM Construction on the St Lucia side has now started, and prefab of parts is going well on the Dutton Park side. They better just start seriously working towards the busway connection....
cranerider July 9th, 2005, 08:40 AM Another pedestrian bridge has been announced to connect New Farm amd Kangaroo Point. Is this correct ????? Anyone have any details on this ???
Orfeo July 9th, 2005, 08:53 AM Kangaroo point to the city. It is only a conceptual proposal at this point so there really isn't any information on site, design etc.
Orfeo September 2nd, 2005, 06:45 AM The final plan for the park arround the bridge has been released and it doesn't have a carpark.
Construction seems to be going alright with the Dutton Park support for the pylons complete and the St Lucia one very close to completion. Eventually the pylons will reach 70m.
Malt September 2nd, 2005, 07:45 AM we ignore this lol!
Needs more pics.
and wow @ 70m
Chrisso September 14th, 2005, 02:22 AM we ignore this lol!
Needs more pics.
and wow @ 70m
The pylons are making their way upwards now. Dutton Park side taken yesterday afternoon.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/chrisso/Brisbane/Gbr_130905_1.jpg
Malt September 14th, 2005, 02:36 AM nice job.
:)
Chrisso September 15th, 2005, 01:21 AM The pylons for the road deck on the Dutton Park side coming along as well :cheers:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/chrisso/Brisbane/Gbr_150905_1.jpg
Maroon Grown September 15th, 2005, 03:46 AM this is like a silent project that u dont hear about to often. i had no idea they had made this much progress
Chrisso October 3rd, 2005, 01:58 AM Progressing nicely with sections of the road deck in place on the Dutton Park side.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/chrisso/Brisbane/GBr_300905_1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/chrisso/Brisbane/GBr_300905_2.jpg
The bridge towers also progressing nicely. Dutton Park side
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/chrisso/Brisbane/GBr_300905_3.jpg
St Lucia side
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/chrisso/Brisbane/GBr_300905_4.jpg
Aussie Bhoy October 23rd, 2005, 06:29 AM Pictures that I took this morning, doesn't look like a lot of progress in the last couple of weeks
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y246/AussieBhoy/UC/Greenbridgeuc1.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y246/AussieBhoy/UC/Greenbridgeuc2.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y246/AussieBhoy/UC/Greenbridgeuc3.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y246/AussieBhoy/UC/GreenBridgeuc4.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y246/AussieBhoy/UC/Greenbridgeuc5.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y246/AussieBhoy/UC/Greenbridgeuc6.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y246/AussieBhoy/UC/Greenbridgeuc7.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y246/AussieBhoy/UC/Greenbridgeuc8.jpg
1_gtar October 23rd, 2005, 07:43 AM They've made some good progress. It's a pity this bridge is only for walking and buses.
cp1 October 23rd, 2005, 10:45 AM I was actually under that bridge today, could have taken some nice pics.
Muse October 28th, 2005, 09:47 AM Scanned article on the bridge's construction. From Construction Contractor, Oct '05:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/379greenbridgearticle1.JPG
____________http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/379greenbridgearticle2.JPG
1_gtar November 3rd, 2005, 09:55 AM I saw something on a 7 news update saying a major milestone for Brisbane's newest cross-trown bridges. (Obvioussly this one) It showed an image of them lifting part of the bridge in place but (part of the road). I'm still not sure what it is. Anyone help us out?
Orfeo November 3rd, 2005, 10:07 AM ^
I think it was the first section of the deck.
1_gtar November 3rd, 2005, 11:31 AM Well, I just saw something on the news. Apparently they're halfway and are goint to start building the 70m towers. Completion is expected for late next year.
Chrisso November 4th, 2005, 12:57 AM Thanks for posting that article Muse!
I walked past the site again this morning and they've really made a lot of progress recently. Currently their placing the 3rd section of road deck on the Dutton Park side leading up to the bridge. They also started clearing the St Lucia side a few weeks ago to make way for the bus terminal etc. Too bad I won't be around next year to see it completed.
JayT November 19th, 2005, 05:50 AM http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/4825/102764825dl1130422026.jpg
Brizbane2 January 3rd, 2006, 03:26 PM Found a picture of a model that exists somewhere
http://www.arup.com/IMAGEBANK/image3521.jpg
TOCC January 4th, 2006, 11:18 AM This is from the Brisbane City Council website pertaining to the construction, ive been away for 9 months and didnt even know any of this was happening, i had seen the roadworks at annerly road but was oblivious to what they were about.
Annerly Road
http://www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/bccwr/2010/accessible/images/dsc_0132a_duttonpark.jpg
Dutton Park
http://www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/bccwr/2010/accessible/images/176a_duttonparkworks.jpg
UQ St Lucia
http://www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/bccwr/2010/accessible/images/pb100023_brisriveworks.jpg
Overall path for the Busway
http://www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/bccwr/2010/accessible/images/20051007_greenbridge_opt.jpg
Bridge
http://www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/bccwr/2010/accessible/images/green_bridge_2_485.jpg
Macca-GC February 3rd, 2006, 10:34 AM Anyone have any updates? surely they would have made some decent progress in a month, dispite the Christmas shutdown
Orfeo February 3rd, 2006, 12:12 PM ^^
They have made progress, but not much on the towers. They've started on the UQ onramp and done quite a bit on the lead up to the bridge at Dutton Park.
Last week:
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/3593/greenbridge11xo.jpg
GMAC March 7th, 2006, 08:00 AM I drove past today and the towers are definitely starting to get high. In fact the talles of the towers which I think is on the Uni side is just visible from a number of streets in Dutton Park. I would hazard a guess that both towers are over half way so probably only a month at the most before the first tower tops out.
Oriolus March 7th, 2006, 09:15 AM I assumed that this bridge was just going to be called Green Bridge but apparentely not - council is calling for suggestions as to what it's real name should be:
Lord Mayor urges community to help name bridge (http://www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/newsroom/home/news_detail.asp?ID=385) BCC 6/2/06
BRISBANE Lord Mayor Campbell Nеwman has today called on members of the community to help choose a name of the city’s next bridge – presently known as the Green Bridge.
The bridge, which is currently under construction between Dutton Park and the University of Queensland, will be the first bridge in Australia solely for use by buses, pedestrians and cyclists. Councillor Nеwman said the bridge was making great progress and was on track to be opened for the start of the first university term in 2007.
Cr Nеwman said the pedestrian, cycle and bus bridge would dramatically reduce travelling time for people coming from the southern and eastern suburbs to the university – the second most popular destination for bus travellers.
"I want Brisbane residents to think about the history and character of our city, especially the local history, and help Council choose the name that would help commemorate one of our city’s great unsung heroes or pioneers, the traditional landowners of the area – or even a local plant or animal," Cr Nеwman said. "This bridge needs a name that is well suited to such an iconic structure. I’m really looking forward to seeing what names people come up with."
Cr Nеwman said it was important for Brisbane residents, especially the local community, to have a say in what the bridge would ultimately be called. With the help of the community, Chair of Transport and Major Projects, Councillor Graham Quirk, said a shortlist of names suggested by the public would be developed and would be then made public for further public debate before a recommendation would be made to Council later this year.That cyrillic e certainly comes in handy ;)
nikko March 7th, 2006, 02:08 PM Sally-Ann Atkinson bridge.
Leesome March 16th, 2006, 07:22 AM They've suddenly gone apeshit on the towers - pics from today. sorry bout quality - they're from my phone... But you can also now see the towers from toowong too! .. . . .(albeit from the 8th floor, but you can see them nevertheless.....)
Towers on dutton side....
http://www.pichotel.com/pic/841T5DcL/13496.jpg
UQ side...
http://www.pichotel.com/pic/841T5DcL/13497.jpg
Cheers
Orfeo March 16th, 2006, 08:56 AM ^
you can see a little crane-like device in the St Lucia pic, and 2 of those are situated equidistant from the centre of the bridge on the Dutton Park side with something hanging between them. So it seems like they might be extending the deck soon.
Danubis March 17th, 2006, 10:54 AM they pillar things dont look like they're being constructed to meet in the middle as per the original diagram?!?
GMAC March 17th, 2006, 05:12 PM Nah Dan, there has been a second render since then that shows the pillars going straight up. Im kinda glad cos otherwise it might have looked like a clone of ANZAC bridge, now it looks like the baby of ANZAC and Bolte!!!!!!
Aussie Bhoy March 20th, 2006, 10:31 AM Couple from today (bad light facing west)
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/1582/p32000500ev.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/8913/p32000516pt.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
KJBrissy March 29th, 2006, 09:15 AM You can see the towers from Gladstone Rd. They're HUGE!!!
duke March 29th, 2006, 01:44 PM Towers are well and truly visible from the City. The one on the Dutton park side looks to be complete as the scaffolding has been removed.
Danubis April 14th, 2006, 02:37 PM the pillars have been finished for a week or two now, yet no photos!!?! pretty pulease someone :)
Leesome April 17th, 2006, 06:08 AM Hre's some for ya danubis, only wit me phone tho.....
Both from UQ side today
http://www.pichotel.com/pic/841T5DcL/24257.jpg
http://www.pichotel.com/pic/841T5DcL/24258.jpg
Danubis April 17th, 2006, 10:44 AM yay, thanx leesome :)
Brizbane2 April 21st, 2006, 05:30 PM It seems like DCM designed the Green bridge. Their original design, as found on their website was quite beautiful and would have been memorable. But as usual it seems that the cost cutters got their claws in and we're going to end up with a very unremarkable and quite forgettable river crossing.
Link to DCM render --> http://www.dentoncorkermarshall.com/projects.aspx?p=0&projectID=918&catID=10&f1=location&f2=australasia&pg=1
Malt April 21st, 2006, 05:36 PM A loss of course...
That design would have been much better
BrizzyChris April 22nd, 2006, 04:03 AM Yes, very NYish.
duke April 22nd, 2006, 07:24 AM This is the render from the Brisbane City Council website.
http://www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/bccwr/2010/accessible/images/green_bridge_2_485.jpg
The only difference is that the latticework between the concrete piers is gone. The bridge will still appear identical when viewed from the river.
Edit: Just realised that this render is a low resolution version of the one posted by Brizbane2 with the latticework gone!
GMAC April 22nd, 2006, 08:51 AM Oh thats a shame, I liked the lattice work. Still happy with what were getting but the lattice work was different.
Locke April 23rd, 2006, 05:30 AM Looks like a decent bridge, doubt I'll ever use it though.
Brizbane2 April 23rd, 2006, 02:36 PM Had a look today at the bridge. The towers are finished now, with the jumpforms removed. And they have started adding the cable suspended road deck. The first cable stay is in place along with the associated section of supported road deck (at least on the Dutton park side anyway)
But it seems that what they have built is different to the current render from the city council website. The concrete towers do not taper as in the render and seem a lot shorter as though they decided not to add as much of the extra tower height above the highest cable.
This project just gets cheaper and cheaper, the architecture is all but gone now, this is an engineer's project... I guess nobody wants another Goodwill bridge type scandal.
BrizzyChris April 23rd, 2006, 03:45 PM That's Brisbane for ya.
KJBrissy April 24th, 2006, 02:47 AM From the leaflet that was handed around, it said that the towers were 74m? anyway it was more than 70 metres.
Orfeo April 24th, 2006, 02:53 AM But it seems that what they have built is different to the current render from the city council website. The concrete towers do not taper as in the render and seem a lot shorter as though they decided not to add as much of the extra tower height above the highest cable.
This project just gets cheaper and cheaper, the architecture is all but gone now, this is an engineer's project... I guess nobody wants another Goodwill bridge type scandal.
It was to be 70m above sea level, but the locals organsied a meeting once they worked out how tall 70m would be and demand them to be lowered to 60m. I couldn't go because of work commitments, but I think they're got their wish.
GMAC April 24th, 2006, 03:43 AM You have to wonder how that extra 10m was going to affect locals, its not like views or shadowing are an issue. Why are Nimby's so dumb, they panic about something that is just a number, that none of them would probably even notice upon completion, and that it lessens the appeal of the design. Dumb, Dumb, Dumb!!!
Malt April 24th, 2006, 03:55 AM agreed, wtf.
Bloody idiots. Seriously.... Ill go and firebomb all their houses. :P
Orfeo April 24th, 2006, 07:45 AM ^
Just not mine alright.
Truthfully, most people I know don't care at all but there is a militant bunch of NIMBYs that can be counted on to protest against anything.
SoulvisionQ1 April 24th, 2006, 09:13 AM They got to be the stupidest kind of people in the world! they are mostly old people that have nothing to do so they complain...complain about any bloody thing! I HATE NIMBYS! :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:
bigfix April 28th, 2006, 01:51 AM I had forgotten about this bridge until I read this forum recently.
So went out last weekend at took some photos from the St Lucia side.
http://www.taxonline.com.au/buildings/2006-04-25-Green-Bridge.jpg
http://www.taxonline.com.au/buildings/2006-04-25-Green-Bridge-01.jpg
SoulvisionQ1 April 28th, 2006, 06:05 AM ^^ Ahhhh that's really good quality bigfix! Good on ya! coming along nicely! :)
Chrisso April 28th, 2006, 08:02 AM Thanks for the update Bigfix!
I can't believe how much this has progressed since I last saw it in December :cheers:
Aussie Bhoy April 28th, 2006, 12:04 PM What will come next, I'm guessing the support cables before they can build the road structure?
duke May 7th, 2006, 03:01 AM What will come next, I'm guessing the support cables before they can build the road structure?
According to the April 2006 update brochure the cable stay sections of the deck will be be installed progressively on either side of the two piers. As each section is installed, steel cable stays will radiate out from the bridge towers holding the deck in place.
The brochure also says that the towers, currently 55m tall, are to be finished with 15m tall tower tops.
Locke May 7th, 2006, 03:11 AM At the moment it looks like a hover car bridge from futurama;)
Danubis May 9th, 2006, 06:00 PM has anybody else ever seen this render? its the first time ive come accross it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/danubiis/greenbridge.jpg
17 floors up May 10th, 2006, 12:50 AM ^looks like a securi-mesh door thingy!
scottsimmons80 May 10th, 2006, 09:26 AM Apparenty that was the original plan that was scrapped due to construction costs or something similar? IMO, it looks way better without.
GMAC May 11th, 2006, 01:14 AM I think that original plan was excellent, but as usual BCC go with the plain jane version.
duke May 11th, 2006, 04:48 AM I also prefer the final version.
KJBrissy May 22nd, 2006, 05:20 AM Anyone got some recent photo's, I don't go to that side of the suburb much at all!!! (Lazy I know)
neilo63 May 30th, 2006, 06:41 AM Here's the construction process. I scanned the articles.
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/4666/scan027bq.th.jpg (http://img402.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan027bq.jpg)
http://img421.imageshack.us/img421/1246/scan019qv.th.jpg (http://img421.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan019qv.jpg)
scottsimmons80 May 30th, 2006, 08:30 AM Sweet! Thanks heaps, neilo!! :)
Danubis June 27th, 2006, 09:58 AM almost a month since last post and two months since last construction pics.... the bridge must almost be finished surely!!! can someone take some pics pulease??? i would go myself but st lucia is a bottle neck with bridge to drive my car through. :(
Aussie Bhoy June 28th, 2006, 07:16 AM Here you go Danubis, taken today around 2pm so the light wasn't great. BTW, there was very little work being done, hardly any workers about, are they all finished for the day at that time, or are they just lazy buggers?
http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/6950/p62800072zq.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/687/p62800107um.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/310/p62800116ew.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/6815/p62800130pd.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/4580/p62800146qs.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img445.imageshack.us/img445/2239/p62800174ap.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img445.imageshack.us/img445/1602/p62800203lx.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Orfeo June 28th, 2006, 08:28 AM BTW, there was very little work being done, hardly any workers about, are they all finished for the day at that time, or are they just lazy buggers?
The later - there never seems to many people arround on either side of the river. But at least some progress is being made, as there is another section added to the dutton park side since last monday.
Danubis June 28th, 2006, 09:32 AM yay, well done aussie. 'we'll save yuew'
WestEnderBender June 28th, 2006, 11:34 AM Maybe the workers were protesting the IR laws...
But, very cool bridge, and great shots :)
Brissy4me June 29th, 2006, 08:28 AM Great shots Aussie Bhoy, can't wait until it is finished. It should create some relief for coro drive and toowong.
Danubis June 29th, 2006, 09:48 AM i wish they would paint it the concrete green... it is after all, the green bridge?!
Macca-GC June 29th, 2006, 07:00 PM Yes but it won't be called the Green Bridge. That's just a working name. They're going to name it on opening, the same as they did with the Goodwill Bridge.
Danubis June 29th, 2006, 07:24 PM oh, anyone care to take a punt at possible names then?
Orfeo June 30th, 2006, 03:36 AM ^
there is a list with 5 names - my money is on either Schonell or Mayne.
Yes but it won't be called the Green Bridge
Green Bridge is still a possibility...as is St Lucia and UQ I believe.
WestEnderBender June 30th, 2006, 10:34 AM I heard someone say something about something to do with "the 3-way bridge" (bike/walk/bus)... (my source is very loose, as I don't remember WHO exactly told me that)
Danubis July 1st, 2006, 05:06 AM titikaka three ways
Leesome July 1st, 2006, 11:32 AM On the original Green gbridge flyer that they sent out around toowong/st lucia etc. They were asking for suggestions for names. So I don't think they REALLY know what it's goin to be called yet - although my money'd be with orfeo on either schonell or mayne... I don't think they'd be bad names at all...
bigfix July 2nd, 2006, 12:38 AM The bridge is coming along nicely and I am told it will be joined in about 6 weeks.
See photos via this link
Construction photos at Emporis (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/cs/?id=264958)
SteV July 3rd, 2006, 05:30 AM "Earlier this year, Council invited residents to suggest a new name for the Green Bridge. Hundreds of names were submitted and a panel of community representatives has now shortlisted the following six names for community comment:
Eleanor Schonell Bridge
Green Bridge
Harmony Bridge
Hawken Bridge
Mayne Bridge
University Bridge"
You can vote here:
http://ycys.brisbane.qld.gov.au/discussions/discussion-list.jsp?discussion=115
SoulvisionQ1 July 3rd, 2006, 05:31 AM ^ I like Mayne Bridge & Hawken Bridge
BrizzyChris July 3rd, 2006, 09:54 AM I like Eleanor Schonell and Hawken.
Mayne will get too confusing with "main bridge". People will be like "what main bridge?"
Aussie Bhoy July 3rd, 2006, 10:19 AM Hawken, Mayne or Green for me.
Hawken - Uni dean of Engineers, and worked in particular with bridges.
Mayne - Family donated the land for the Uni
Green - Local Counciler who voluntered for WW2 and was killed in action.
SoulvisionQ1 July 3rd, 2006, 10:54 AM Mayne sounds international though....
Danubis July 3rd, 2006, 12:40 PM how bout international bridge then haha
Brizbane2 July 4th, 2006, 05:17 AM I reckon that there are enough Hawken references already at UQ, Hawken Engineering building, and Hawken drive.
And It would be kind of confusing that Hawken bridge is not on Hawken drive.
With 'Schonell' Theatre closing down perhaps it is appropriate that the bridge take over that name reference.
Although I like University bridge the most.
BrizzyChris July 4th, 2006, 07:32 AM The theatre is closing? How come, not enough patrons?
WestEnderBender July 4th, 2006, 07:51 AM The Schonell theatre has already closed. They had a closing down night a few weeks back. Not enough funding, I think VSU (voluntary student unionism) was the common blame for the closure, though I'm not sure of the specific reasons. Hopefully though the building will remain, and restored/reopened at some point in the future.
Orfeo July 4th, 2006, 08:53 AM The fact that it was running at a loss and thus needed student union funds to remain open was the cause of the closure as a cinema. This in turn was mostly due to the fact that the complex was being used as a lecture theatre for the majority of the day, leaving only a few films able to be run per day after 4:00pm. If films were shown durring the day (when I had breaks) I would have gone more often, as I think many other people would have.
It will still be used as a peforming arts venue and a lecture theatre.
Brissy4me July 4th, 2006, 02:33 PM I like the name 'Mayne'. After reading "The Mayne Inheritance", I think it would be a good name for this bridge.
KJBrissy July 19th, 2006, 02:56 AM BTW there are heaps of cool pics on Emporis:
http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/cs/?id=264958
17 floors up July 19th, 2006, 04:41 AM I think I like University Bridge the best - at least its indicative of where it goes.
I also like the idea of "Go-Between Bridge" in honour of the great brizzie band - its also a quirky nod to brizzie's underground culture - something which I don't think happens enough - and its unique.
NewUrban July 19th, 2006, 09:17 AM Yeah, it would be great to see it named after something creative that Brisbane has invented, instead of plain old sport as usual.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_Betweens
Fabian July 19th, 2006, 02:11 PM Last week from the Citycat
http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/3397/p7128537ej5.jpg
Brissy4me July 19th, 2006, 02:34 PM Great pic Fabian, thanks. Almost done now, another project bites the dust.
BrizzyChris July 19th, 2006, 04:16 PM Thats the first i've seen of it in ages. Looks pretty good.
17 floors up July 20th, 2006, 02:32 AM Great looking bridge - probably the best in Brizzy bar the Indro and Story bridges IMO
Pity it won't have a train running over it :(
SoulvisionQ1 July 20th, 2006, 07:59 AM It actually looks really dominating! Which i like... :)
http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/3397/p7128537ej5.jpg
bigfix July 21st, 2006, 06:52 AM http://www.taxonline.com.au/buildings/2006-07-10-Green-Bridge.jpg
3 to 4 weeks before it will be joined
GMAC July 22nd, 2006, 02:24 AM I flew in from the west a couple of weeks ago and this bridge is looking awesome from the sky, It really stands out!!!!
SEQ92 August 5th, 2006, 01:06 AM i took these from my home:
August 2006:
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/7505/0000085hh4.jpg
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/1918/0000086rr5.jpg
http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/4921/0000087cf1.jpg
http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/5447/0000088pi8.jpg
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/7451/0000089an0.jpg
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/489/0000094qq9.jpg
compare them with these:
March/April 2006:
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/3282/1000550nc3.jpg
December2005/Janurary2006:
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/4899/1000353hn7.jpg
Aussie Bhoy August 5th, 2006, 03:22 AM According to the Courier Mail, the spans should be joined in the next 2 weeks.
Nice view from your house, there is a Green Bridge thread in the Qld section, you should check it out, people were crying out for update pics a couple of months ago, they would have loved you
SEQ92 August 5th, 2006, 03:48 AM ok. i hope the buses wont be loud when it opens! will any nightlink services use the bridge?
cmoonflyer August 5th, 2006, 07:14 AM Good shots !
SEQ92 August 5th, 2006, 10:07 AM thanks :)
SEQ92 August 5th, 2006, 12:29 PM well know that the cables are done ill have to look at them do the final 15m on the tower height. ah well *sigh*
Brisvein August 7th, 2006, 03:19 AM Are the towers going as high as the render? At least one has additional scaffolding/ gantry to the height that it seems to indicate in the render.
CULWULLA August 7th, 2006, 03:56 AM wow, nice pix. so are these towers 70m high? are they tallest in QLD?
isnt storey bridge 80m above water?
http://www.storybridgeadventureclimb.com.au/35742.img
duke August 7th, 2006, 04:27 AM so are these towers 70m high?
Not yet, but they will be when they get their caps. The tower on the Dutton Park side has a structure on top of the tower.
CULWULLA August 7th, 2006, 08:11 AM merged threads.
SEQ92 August 7th, 2006, 08:33 AM the towers are currently 55m high, but when the final 15m is done they will be 70m high. 70m is highger than the Gateway Bridge, and nearly as high as the storey bridge (higher than the road but not as high as the top of the structure of the storey) .
when more major work of the bridge is done, ill post some more pics. (points to previous posts by chinimick (me))
Aussie Bhoy August 7th, 2006, 08:58 AM I thought the Gateway Bridge was 80m?
Story Bridge is 74m according to the Adventure Climb website
Danubis August 7th, 2006, 03:38 PM the towers are currently 55m high, but when the final 15m is done they will be 70m high. 70m is highger than the Gateway Bridge, and nearly as high as the storey bridge (higher than the road but not as high as the top of the structure of the storey) .
when more major work of the bridge is done, ill post some more pics. (points to previous posts by chinimick (me))
yeah, thats how i read the article in the courier mail aswell... apparently theres some sort of decorative features to 'cap' off the towers.
i wonder if they will light up the towers somehow at night time??
bigfix August 10th, 2006, 06:02 AM Hi Guys
Have just taken heaps of photos which I will upload to Emporis soon.
Shots include the joining sections being transported from the delivery truck, then craned to the barge, then craned from the barge to the bridge deck.
This is all being prepared today (10th Aug) ready for the media circus on Friday. I guess you can see it on the news Friday night if you can not make it down there.
cheers for now.
bigfix August 10th, 2006, 09:44 AM One of the two sections to join the bridge being craned up from barge below
http://www.taxonline.com.au/buildings/2006-08-10-GB.jpg
CULWULLA August 10th, 2006, 10:32 AM Gateway bridge is 65m high
green bridge reminds me of 121m anzac bridge in sydney
http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/4257/102854257ml1152325931.jpg
SEQ92 August 11th, 2006, 08:26 AM the deck between the two towers is finished so its one structure :)
Brizbane2 September 1st, 2006, 01:50 AM And the name is…Eleanor Schonell Bridge
28/8/2006
BRISBANE Lord Mayor Campbell ****** has today announced Australia’s first dedicated pedestrian, cycling and bus bridge that connects the University of Queensland with Dutton Park will be called Eleanor Schonell Bridge.
Councillor ****** said the decision came after an independent Evaluation Panel presented their recommendations on the six short-listed names to Civic Cabinet this morning.
"The final list of three names presented to Cabinet today included Eleanor Schonell Bridge, Hawken Bridge and University Bridge," Cr ****** said.
"These final three names were selected from hundreds of community suggestions.
"Eleanor Schonell made an internationally recognised contribution to testing for dyslexia and was renown for her generous and humane approach to life.
"Her work with cerebral palsy children led to international recognition and she also contributed substantially to the education of children with intellectual disabilities."
The Green Bridge will take traffic off Coronation Drive and Sir Fred Schonell Drive thereby easing congestion through the City to St Lucia by providing a good reason to use buses, walk, cycle or jog to and from the South-side.
Aussie Bhoy September 22nd, 2006, 03:24 AM Took these pictures during the week whilst Ozscrapers was down
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/8310/p9110001tz5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/8066/p9110002he9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1816/p9110007qb2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/1593/p9110009jr1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5283/p9110011xr5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
SoulvisionQ1 September 22nd, 2006, 04:22 AM ^^ Nice pics! its coming along nicely...
KJBrissy September 22nd, 2006, 07:05 AM BCC have said that they have come in $1 million under budget and that that money will be used on a bikeway from Dutton Park to South Bank!
FreedomCall September 22nd, 2006, 07:59 AM BCC have said that they have come in $1 million under budget and that that money will be used on a bikeway from Dutton Park to South Bank!
Sounds like a good idea to me :)
Leesome September 22nd, 2006, 05:06 PM ^^ Really good idea!!!! Does anyone else think that more thought should go into the aesthetics of the underside of bridges too??
Brissy4me September 23rd, 2006, 03:05 AM I like it.
BrizzyChris September 23rd, 2006, 08:55 AM ^^ Really good idea!!!! Does anyone else think that more thought should go into the aesthetics of the underside of bridges too??
Not really, it's not something a lot of people are going to see, and really the money could be put to much better use, like the suggested bikeway.
cranerider October 29th, 2006, 05:06 AM Any recent shots ? When does the bridge open ?
Orfeo October 29th, 2006, 05:45 AM ^
December
dan_ October 30th, 2006, 03:31 AM i still think this bridge is an absolutely stupid idea and is going to spoil the serenity of the uq st lucia campus.. but jeez it's a good looking bridge!!
KJBrissy October 30th, 2006, 03:32 AM But the buses barely touch the UQ side? It could potentially increase the serenity by reducing the amount of buses at the other side of the uni.
GMAC October 30th, 2006, 05:18 AM SERENITY????? Its not Bonnydoon!!!!!!
Aussie Bhoy October 30th, 2006, 05:41 AM UQ serenity? It's one of the biggest traffic generators in the city, but then complains about anything that may spoil it's out of the way ambience. The only silly thing about the Green Bridge is that it isn't bigger, and handling cars as well as busses. Then maybe Coro drive and Toowong wouldn't be so congested.
NewUrban October 30th, 2006, 08:19 AM The only silly thing about the Green Bridge is that it isn't handling cars as well as busses.
Then it wouldn't be a "Green Bridge".
KJBrissy October 30th, 2006, 08:22 AM If the green bridge had car carrying capacity, once again there would be less incentive to take public transport. This is the best thing the BCC could have done and the planners have got it right. Now you can travel by bus from the CBD to UQ and only go on about 100m of open road.
Redress October 30th, 2006, 10:59 AM Agreed people should be getting out of their cars and onto PT quick smart. Then we may see some light rail at last. Still, the bridge might yet be used for cars at some stage in the future... will just have to see what happens with trnsport and roads generally
BrizzyChris October 30th, 2006, 11:35 AM Then it wouldn't be a "Green Bridge".
What's "green" about buses exactly?
Locke October 30th, 2006, 11:38 AM UQ serenity? It's one of the biggest traffic generators in the city, but then complains about anything that may spoil it's out of the way ambience. The only silly thing about the Green Bridge is that it isn't bigger, and handling cars as well as busses. Then maybe Coro drive and Toowong wouldn't be so congested.
Agreed! 100 percent! A bridge this big just for locals on their bicycles and a few buses is one gigantic misallocation of resources. But we are masters of big expensive dumb ideas here.
Facts are, no cars reduces this bridge to novelty value, let's hope they open it up to cars ASAP!
NewUrban October 30th, 2006, 02:59 PM What's "green" about buses exactly?
The fact that one full one takes 44 cars off the road, and most are powered by natural gas.
Danubis October 31st, 2006, 05:23 AM is the bridge lit up at nighty toim?
dan_ October 31st, 2006, 05:30 AM UQ serenity? It's one of the biggest traffic generators in the city, but then complains about anything that may spoil it's out of the way ambience. The only silly thing about the Green Bridge is that it isn't bigger, and handling cars as well as busses. Then maybe Coro drive and Toowong wouldn't be so congested.
i take it you've never studied at uq? apart from the main entrance the whole of uq is a very quiet and serene place to be.. now it has a bus route through one of its quietest and most serene parts!! not cool.
GMAC October 31st, 2006, 06:36 AM Ive never studied at UQ but I cant imagine that the buses that will be using probably about 2% of the UQ campus will destroy your serenity. Its not going to affect any students ability to learn or study which is what they are at uni for, it is simply going to provide better and more environmentally sustainable transport solutions to most of the students living in Brisbanes South Eastern Suburbs. But you just keep concerning yourself with your serenity!!!!
Redress October 31st, 2006, 02:27 PM Agreed! 100 percent! A bridge this big just for locals on their bicycles and a few buses is one gigantic misallocation of resources. But we are masters of big expensive dumb ideas here.
Facts are, no cars reduces this bridge to novelty value, let's hope they open it up to cars ASAP!
Its not open to cars atm because governments have finally woken up that incentives must be given to get people out of cars. If you cannot drive a car over the bridge, people will hopefully take PT over it. Once sufficient cars are off the road, then trams will be implemented, not before. IMHO, it is a good policy to force people out of cars!
Orfeo November 1st, 2006, 02:16 AM let's hope they open it up to cars ASAP!
It will never be opened to cars: This is probably about the 20th this has had to be mentioned in this thread, but I hope this time it will finally get through some people's heads. :bash:
Redress November 1st, 2006, 02:48 AM What's "green" about buses exactly?
natural gas buses = cleaner air. You know the whole global warming issue - you may have heard of it recently - perhaps
Brissy Phil November 1st, 2006, 03:54 AM I think some Brisbanites are too narrow minded when it comes to river crossings. Look at any of the top 50 cities of the world on Google Earth and you'll see that in the equivalent distance from Newstead to St Lucia, there is closer to 30 or 40 river crossings. In 40 years people will look back and wonder what we were all thinking!
Maroon Grown November 2nd, 2006, 01:31 AM I think some Brisbanites are too narrow minded when it comes to river crossings. Look at any of the top 50 cities of the world on Google Earth and you'll see that in the equivalent distance from Newstead to St Lucia, there is closer to 30 or 40 river crossings. In 40 years people will look back and wonder what we were all thinking!
yeah and these cities have a population equivalent of australia's compared to brisbanes piddily 1.8 million
KJBrissy November 2nd, 2006, 01:57 AM And they also have traffic problems still. What are you going to do, make the river essentially underground and concrete over the top??
SoulvisionQ1 November 2nd, 2006, 06:41 AM ^^ No... just link the city back together more with both PT and road connections!
GMAC November 2nd, 2006, 08:16 AM Is it really necessary to use these much older cities as a model for Brisbane. Clearly these cities were building their bridges back when the car was the obvious future transport and there were no issues with polution and people didnt care about preserving the natural environment as much. Dont get me wrong, Im all for more bridges, I can think of at least 7 more that I would like to see eventually, they would just all be light rail bridges.
BrizzyChris November 2nd, 2006, 01:14 PM natural gas buses = cleaner air. You know the whole global warming issue - you may have heard of it recently - perhaps
Oh that's right, they are ALL like that aren't they? And natural gas doesn't emit any pollution does it....no, definately not.
Thank god this forum is endowed with your words of wisdom.
SoulvisionQ1 November 2nd, 2006, 02:48 PM How environmentally friendly is Natural Gas? does it emit carbon? i don't know much about it... I assume they are eco friendly...
Brizzy-Mike November 3rd, 2006, 12:01 AM Can I join in the mud-slinging? Please.. please..
Um.
Well. I did not agree with the G.Bridge as it plugs into the middle of a university. Once all those people are there it is a pedestrian dominated place. However, if they want a bridge, why didn't they build a normal one just a bit further along? And not a four lane motorway bridge, just a connection?
l_blue_l November 3rd, 2006, 12:34 AM i feel sorry for transport planners having to put up with the public thinking they know best and putting there two cents in. :bash: :bash: .
Brizzy-Mike November 3rd, 2006, 02:41 AM So much for democrazy
Favco750 November 11th, 2006, 07:54 PM i take it you've never studied at uq? apart from the main entrance the whole of uq is a very quiet and serene place to be.. now it has a bus route through one of its quietest and most serene parts!! not cool.
i never studied at UQ either, but I did build the NMR/CSIRO (by myself of course) wing in 2001 when the planes flew into the buildings and I have to concur with my learned friend a little..... A hell of lot of traffic is generated by UQ.....
Of that there can be no doubt......
But with a couple of new projects since I left such as the green bridge and even the citycat stop at the regatta, there should be a little less traffic going straight ahead from Coro Dve past the RE...... and that is good... :cheers:
SEQ92 November 14th, 2006, 12:20 PM theyve removed the crane thingy from the towers and their putting up the shades.
Danubis November 14th, 2006, 01:27 PM i just want a damn night picture. pulease.
KJBrissy February 28th, 2007, 07:56 AM The bridge is proving quite popular and well used. It will also provide a fantastic connection between the bio-technology park to go in at the Boggo Road Jail and PA Hospital, and the bio-tech stuff at UQ.
SEQ92 February 28th, 2007, 10:28 AM ^^ Yes I also saw quite a few full 109's today.
Can the title please be changed? Construction has finished!!
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