With the world cup leading to a massive influx of people and the need to move many times the number of people around the country than normal, many plans have been put in place.

The following two links are articles about SAA's and ACSA's plans for the 2010 World Cup period. These were discussed at a meeting on the 1st September 2009.

SAA 2010 plans (http://www.pmg.org.za/files/docs/090901update.ppt)

ACSA 2010 plans (http://www.pmg.org.za/files/docs/090901acsa-edit.pdf)


Look at the number of additional flights between cities that SAA currently does not serve. Especially look at the number of additional flights to Mauritius from cities across the country!

SAA to Fly More “Red Eye” Flights for World Cup

2009-09-01
Portfolio Committee on Tourism

One of the ways that SAA can reduce the pressure in travel movement planning for the World Cup, other than its planned tripling of flights between major cities, is to add considerably more “red eye” flights throughout the night between soccer stadiums, said SAA acting CEO Chris Smyth recently to the portfolio committee on tourism.

SAA, together with ACSA, were dually presenting to parliamentarians their plans to handle the large volume of World Cup 2010 soccer fans, which would initially occur at OR Tambo international airport and where ACSA had said earlier that high-volume expectations could top 20,000 passengers on a fly-in and fly-out basis at any given point.

The national carrier said that the serious part of planning would start on September 15, once the draw was announced as to which cities would be playing hosts to which teams. It would then become evident how the crowds would move between cities based on the fact that the tournament was on a knockout basis, 32-16-8.

Considerable planning had been done with the liquid fuels companies on fuel reserves at each of the airports involved, said Smyth. This was with particular reference to Nelspruit, Polokwane and Bloemfontein, where storage facilities for jet fuel were limited.

Nelspruit, for example, he said, could only handle four arrivals and four departures per hour and therefore land transport to and from Johannesburg had to be part of the equation, as did passenger rail solutions that were being sought in conjunction with Transnet.

Smyth said that SAA was only too aware of the recent jet fuel shortages at OR Tambo and reserves accordingly were being built up. Co-ordination with fuel companies was in hand. Additional rail plans were being made with Transnet to move fuel tankers at far greater frequency. Plans to possibly hold a fuel super tanker off Durban at sea were also being considered.

By and large, most of the issues regarding passenger arrivals and departures were handled by ACSA (see separate report) but Smyth said that SAA would be doubling its international fleet during the period of World Cup, starting with flights with the enlarged fleet operating out of international destinations a fortnight beforehand.

Some twenty 747s and 737s were be added also to SAA domestic fleet in terms of an arrangement with the FIFA’s company “Match”. In addition, twenty-four hour “around the clock” operations were envisaged for airport fuelling facilities, plus ground operations and check-in facilities in co-operation with ACSA.

SAA were currently investigating the insufficient ground-handling facilities at Nelspruit, Bloemfontein and Polokwane. More x-ray machines, catering facilities, and in some cases, even tents, were being arranged to extend facilities. Hangers would be made available for the vast amount of coaches and buses.

On the subject of the additional crew required to fly the additional flight load, Smyth told parliamentarians that the law required that pilots could only fly the requisite number of hours per week, month and year and this had to be borne in mind, resulting in plans to acquire additional experienced staff on contract.

SAA were, in general, planning to gradually increase crew member numbers from January 2010 and during the period being discussed, SAA was to extend its staff hours, utilise the services of retired staff and engage third parties in order to minimise fatigue and improve service, parliamentarians were told

There existed a “challenge” in the area of the extra number of airport traffic controllers required, which was currently being addressed as a major issue. This was a “high stress job” area involving highly trained personnel and SAA and government was acutely aware of the issue and would, no doubt, provide the right answers shortly.

Importantly, said Smyth, SAA had to be aware of the increased technical needs of other airlines who would be flying in considerably more aircraft to South Africa’s three major international airports, bring additional technical pressures to bear on SAA facility services in spares and support equipment.

Plans were in progress here, he said. The need for extra technical “aircraft on the ground” teams was seen as most important, in view of the high utilisation of aircraft flying time and limited downtime.

SAA was also aware of threats that might come in the form of industrial action from ground-handling staff and catering and fuelling entities, Smyth concluded.

http://www.sabinetlaw.co.za/transport/articles/saa-fly-more-%E2%80%9Cred-eye%E2%80%9D-flights-world-cup

I also read in todays Daily News that SAA are at an advanced stage to sign a deal with MATCH to lease an additional 20 to 50 aircraft for the 2010 world cup period. That will be a vast fleet increase.

Enough jet fuel during World Cup, Acsa assures MPs


PARLIAMENT - The Airports Company of South Africa (Acsa) assured MPs on Tuesday there would be sufficient stocks of jet fuel at the country’s major airports during the 2010 World Cup.

“We do have a plan for ensuring that... airports are fully stocked. We can not afford an interruption of fuel supply to any of them,” Acsa operations director Bongani Maseko told members of Parliament’s tourism portfolio committee.

The assurance comes after jet fuel stocks at the country’s busiest airport, OR Tambo International, fell to just two days supply last month, sparking concerns that flights could be delayed or grounded.

Maseko said Acsa had carried out a fuel storage capacity analysis at each of the nine airports it manages.

He also revealed a plan to ensure there was extra jet fuel available during next year’s Soccer World Cup.

“One of the considerations... is to actually have a ship docked in Port Elizabeth or Durban that is stocked with ŠjetÆ fuel, that will supply mainly Gauteng...,” he said.

MPs later heard that South Africa’s jet fuel storage capacity is 47 million litres, while daily usage is about 12 million litres. Consumption is expected to more than double during the 2010 event.

Briefing members, South African Airways 2010 project manager Ian Cruikshank said the national carrier would “effectively be tripling our operations” over the period of the World Cup, in June and July next year.

It was known that certain small airports, such as Pilanesberg and Nelspruit, did not have the equipment to speedily refuel flights.

“We're investigating a ‘splash and dash’ concept,” he said.

This meant the aircraft would make a quick trip to the closest larger airport to take on fuel, before returning to the small airport.

http://www.thecitizen.co.za/index/article.aspx?pDesc=104244,1,22

15 Decemeber 09 people, thats the day you have to be glued to the internet with the credit card in your hand to try and buy tickets for June 2010!!!

how do you come to that?

Plane tickets that is, it was in the paper yesterday. Obviously half the teams havent qualified as yet & the draw's havent taken place yet so the fans wont know where their respective team is playing so they cant blindly buy tickets to random cities.

but the draws on the 4th, so why not book on the 5th or 6th?

^^ possibly so Asca and the airlines can figure out slots and stands before you book impossible flights

Heard this afternoon that all arriving players will land at the current durban airport along with vips to keep them away from regular travelers as they expect ksia to be heavily full, if players were to use the airport they expect the arrival of many people to catch a glimpse of them to cause utter chaos.

so does that mean that players will land at lanseria instead of ORTIA and also the private VIP airport in CT instead of CTIA

New of some charters to central america...

Rollins Air Honduras announces charter flights for 2010 World Cup

Capt. Claudius Rollins, President of Rollins Air has announced that he will be operating a series of charter flights from Honduras, Costa Rica and Mexico to Johannesburg, South Africa for the 2010 World Cup of Soccer in June/July of next year.

Rollins will use their 308 passenger TriStar -500's which have a 12 hour non-stop range, Capt. Rollins said they plan to make a technical stop in Recife, Brazil for refueling and crew change.

Rollins is currently working with FIFA approved travel organizations in Central America and Mexico who have blocked hotel space and aquired tickets.

Rollins aircraft will also provide flights from Johannesburg to other cities that are hosting games during the World Cup. More information will be provided as details become available or ck our website http://www.rollinsair.com/ for updates. You can also send your requests to info@rollinsair.com .

http://rollinsair.blogspot.com/

so does that mean that players will land at lanseria instead of ORTIA and also the private VIP airport in CT instead of CTIA

i am not sure, it depends if those airports have the capacity to cope with those loads. The current dia is much bigger than the secondary airports in jhb and ct. It will only be for domestic travel, they will still arrive in the country at the international airports.

thanks for the inside info so now I know where to go :D

24-Hour operations for SAA and ACSA... eish!!!! I can see some heavy striking coming our way.... AmaStrikeStrike.... we want more pay!!!!!

Good luck SAA, ACSA...!

^^ if we dont have 24hour or close to it we will never move all the people around

From that SAA 2010 plan it seems that they might be leasing aircraft from British Airways...somewhere it's mentioned about maintenance throughout for both SAA and BA aircraft. Makes sense, BA have several parked 747-400s and probably extra 737s as well.
All that flights to MRU? Will each airport then have customs as well?

^^ seems like customs will need to be installed across the board. I do find all those MRU flights rather optimistic imo...

Concern over smaller airports
2009/09/22 08:36:00 AM

James-Brent Styan



Johannesburg - Next year's World Cup soccer tournament is just around the corner and there is serious concern about the ability of the smaller South Africa airports to handle large numbers of visitors.

According to Ian Cruickshank, South African Airways (SAA) project manager for 2010, airports such as those at Pilanesberg and Bloemfontein lack aircraft-handling equipment. What is more, there is almost no equipment at the Polokwane airport either.

Bloemfontein and Polokwane are host cities at which matches will be played. Pilanesberg, in turn, is expected to attract many tourists.

The required equipment includes baggage trolleys and lifts to get passengers' luggage out of the aircraft.

There is also concern about the ability of these airports and other smaller ones to provide aircraft with fuel.

Bongani Maseko, operations manager of the Airports Company of South Africa (Acsa), acknowledges that the airports' infrastructure will be under great pressure in 2010.

In June and July next year 450 000 foreign visitors are expected to arrive in South Africa. Passenger volumes are likely to double during this period.

"On some days up to 20 000 people will have to move through OR Tambo," Maseko predicts.

Acsa spokesperson Solomon Makgale points out that it is airlines' own responsibility to provide equipment at airports.

"SAA has its own company, Swissport, that is in charge of its handling facilities at airports. The [other] airlines will have to negotiate with this company to find solutions to challenges."

Apart from Swissport there are two other companies providing these services - BidAir Services and Menzies Aviation. Makgale made the point that the Polokwane airport does not belong to Acsa.

And, according to Maseko, Acsa is not responsible for fuel. He says Acsa merely provides storage facilities for fuel. "But Acsa will work together with Transnet and the refineries supplying the fuel to ensure that there are no fuel shortages next year."

Acsa is already enlarging its fuel-storage capacity at its airports.

Airlines can possibly sidestep fuel shortages at smaller airports by landing at larger airports to fuel.

Cruickshank reports that SAA will hire 20 additional aircraft from Match Event Services for the duration of the tournament. Match is the company appointed by soccer's world controlling body, Fifa, to manage the 2010 World Cup soccer tournament on its behalf.

As Fifa's agent, Match is in control of accommodation, transport and tickets for the tournament's matches. It is reported to be supplying not only the additional aircraft, but also the crews.

It is still uncertain what SAA will have to pay to hire these aircraft. The details of the agreement should be finalised by September 30.

Cruickshank reckons industrial action such as strikes could present a challenge for air transport during the tournament. But SAA spokesperson Robyn Chalmers says the airline has a contingency plan for a strike.

Delia Fischer, Fifa's spokesperson in South Africa, informed Sake24 that transport and accommodation were the two most important matters still requiring finalisation before the start of the tournament.

- Sake24.com

Things will be very busy at the 3 main airports but the expansions will enable them to cope quite adequately as long as staff are properly trained. The smaller airports will be chaotic unless temporary terminals are created - move CPT's tent to Bloem.

Things will be very busy at the 3 main airports but the expansions will enable them to cope quite adequately as long as staff are properly trained. The smaller airports will be chaotic unless temporary terminals are created - move CPT's tent to Bloem.

I couldn't agree with you more. In fact, I don't even think that JNB, CPT and DUR will be able to cope. You just need to go to JNB on the day before a freaking long weekend, and it is total chaos!

And yet at the end of the day, flashy glass and airbridges and parking lots cannot replace good, efficient service levels. Even the most advanced/beautiful airport can be chaotic if something is not working, or in the case of RSA, if people are not working/trained

And yet at the end of the day, flashy glass and airbridges and parking lots cannot replace good, efficient service levels. Even the most advanced/beautiful airport can be chaotic if something is not working, or in the case of RSA, if people are not working/trained

:applause:

I was thinking about what could be the plans of airlines currently serving SA for next year. Mainly regarding carriers that have summer seasonal flights to Cape Town...: These are all IMO very likely services that could still mean thousands of extra seats that needs to open up, not yet available, although most of these airlines already have their usual schedule open for bookings:

Will Virgin Atlantic and Lufthansa keep flying to CPT throughout next year, or stick to the seasonal service?
BA keep the increased service of 13/14 to CPT.
KLM with daily instead of the 5 weekly over winter.
LTU with their 2 or 3 weekly service.
Will Delta return to CPT before then?
Will Iberia increase flights back to daily to JNB?
Will Qantas increase from 6 to 7 JNB-SYD?

What is the few African carriers' plans to capture some of the market?
The only real difference I've noted thus far is Kenya Airways to increase JNB-NBO from the current 20 to 21 flights, and upgauging one daily flight from 737-800 to 767-300ER. Do you think we might see Kenya Airways introduce flights to CPT and/or DUR before then?
Air Mauritius is offering good prices between Europe and SA for the world cup, will they add additional flights and larger aircraft to JNB,CPT and DUR, like they usually do over summer holidays?
Will Ethiopian Airlines use larger aircraft, 767-300ER, don't know if they are allowed extra frequency?
Will EgyptAir maybe send 777 instead of the A330?
Will Air Namibia use the A340s to CPT and JNB?
Will TAAG re-instate increased frequency (reducing in November to only 2 or 3 weekly), capture Brazil-SA traffic?

What are they likely scenarios? Many of these are possible and can be done by the airlines, small changes, but altogether could mean a significant amount of extra seats.

Thanks for putting here mate. I think they would be stupid to stop flying then, unless their rights dont allow it? but then they should simply apply for the extension.

heard the other day that ek will push jozi up to 4 daily at times during the tournament, ct and Dbn twice daily and possible A380 on Dbn and jhb routes

I see that 1Time has now also opened their normal schedules for booking over June/July2010. BUT also opening with extorting high prices.
Something has to be done by someone to prevent this stupidity of killing the tourism industry for the future. Yes, it's a big thing and time to make money, but is it really necessary for R5000 return domestic fares? Ofcourse one wouldn't expect them to offer the same level fares as throughout the year, but this is way way too much. This is the image the airlines are portraying of our country?

it was front page news in the sunday times i think... and i dont see anything will be done about it...if hotels and B & B's can do it then why not the airlines...its a once in a lifetime opputunity and they would be stupid not to take advantage...im not supporting it...im just saying that business is business

from News24.com:

Johannesburg - Chief executive officer of the 2010 World Cup Local Organising Committee, Danny Jordaan, Thursday said he would investigate newspaper reports that certain airlines had dramatically increased the price of internal flights during the four weeks in June and July when the World Cup will be staged in South Africa.

When asked if it was true that airlines had increased their ticket prices, Jordaan said: “I know the same as you and the public from what I have read in the media.

"Officially, we as the LOC, have not been informed.”

Jordaan said it was not in the spirit of the World Cup to increase prices.

It was reported that a trip to Cape Town from Johannesburg’s OR Tambo Airport could cost more than a flight to London.

Said Jordaan: “One of the big plusses behind staging the World Cup in South Africa was because it was cost effective and that flights were reasonably priced.

"I am concerned about the reports and will investigate them. It is not right to increase flights for the World Cup, but I need the facts before making further comment.”

I see that 1Time has now also opened their normal schedules for booking over June/July2010. BUT also opening with extorting high prices.
Something has to be done by someone to prevent this stupidity of killing the tourism industry for the future. Yes, it's a big thing and time to make money, but is it really necessary for R5000 return domestic fares? Ofcourse one wouldn't expect them to offer the same level fares as throughout the year, but this is way way too much. This is the image the airlines are portraying of our country?

What would be the normal fares if there was no worldcup? any idea?
I'm getting JNB-Durban roundtrip for R2398 in June2010. Is this amount typical for this route?

What would be the normal fares if there was no worldcup? any idea?
I'm getting JNB-Durban roundtrip for R2398 in June2010. Is this amount typical for this route?

Relative to whats been mentioned around for 2010 R2400 isn't bad. Regular prices are around R800 return.

Relative to whats been mentioned around for 2010 R2400 isn't bad. Regular prices are around R800 return.

Wow.. R800 return.. hmm
I am debating going by bus instead.. R160 one way, but some sites I have been thru have said that folks have experienced hell especially with bus breakdowns and taking 4-5 hrs more than the typical 6 hr journey which is more like a 12hr journey in the end.. when the worldcup starts.. the roads will be more frantic i suppose because of fan transport. is it worth it?
This is now making me think abt taking the flight.

Im getting edgy now, its like Im preparing for a race to buy tickets, think I should stay up till 12 am??? need to top up my credit card limit just incase.

Wow.. R800 return.. hmm
I am debating going by bus instead.. R160 one way, but some sites I have been thru have said that folks have experienced hell especially with bus breakdowns and taking 4-5 hrs more than the typical 6 hr journey which is more like a 12hr journey in the end.. when the worldcup starts.. the roads will be more frantic i suppose because of fan transport. is it worth it?
This is now making me think abt taking the flight.

Just stay well away from Roadlink whatever you do.

Just stay well away from Roadlink whatever you do.

thanks for the headsup on that. Can you rate the following bus services by 1,2,3,4 etc:-

-Citiliner
-Greyhound
-Translux
-Any other buses that is not mentioned above and you think is the same or better

Which one is better, kulula air or 1time?

Which one is better, kulula air or 1time?

In terms of overall product offering they very very similar so it pretty much depends on personal preference.

I just wikipedia'd the fleets for kulala and 1time and this is what I saw:-

The kulula.com fleet consists of the following aircraft (as of May 2009) [1]:

1 Boeing 737-200
3 Boeing 737-400

The 1Time fleet consists of the following aircraft:

1Time Fleet :-

Douglas DC-9-32 ; Quantity - 1 ;115 seats
McDonnell Douglas MD-82 ; Quantity - 4 ;157 seats
McDonnell Douglas MD-83 ; Quantity - 4 ;157 seats
McDonnell Douglas MD-87 ; Quantity - 4 ;132 seats

Only 4 fleets for kulula??? thats utterly low. hope they increase the flights during the WC. no wonder the fares are so high.
1time has more, but I would have thought they have more aircrafts.. way better than kulula though

they are both accurate?

they are both accurate?

thats what wikipedia says.. they usually have updated information but i cant be 100% sure. i'd hope they increase their fleets during WC time.

^^ A large majority of kulula's fleet are used interchangably with parent, full service carrier BA-Comair hence the smaller fleet size. That being said wikipedia isn't correct as I can think of 7 737s that operate exclusively for kulula.

if you a tall bloke use Kulula, leg room is much better, mango is another option but they just as tight as 1time. All are pretty good but from my experience Mango is prone to delays.

The low cost airlines are all generally better than their European counterparts. If you book a Kulula flight with a 4 digit flight number you'll go on a British Airways plane with full service.
If you go by bus stick to Greyhound or InterCape.

^^ I see Greyhound purchased some new buses and that's good for them because when Manchester was playing Chiefs a couple of years ago, I used their bus and it was k@k...

Kulula has 6 737-400s operating exclusively for them, and still the one 737-200. They also just received in this week their first 737-800, at least one more expected before June 2010.
Legroom opinions may vary, I feel that 1Time's space is better than Kulula's, overall 1time has got the edge on service.

yet 1time use their dinosaur aircraft? imagine just how awesome it would be if they had some A319/A320's or B737's... gosh first choice all the time. i ahve a problem of not being able to think when sitting close to the back of their aircraft, which really bothers me

Prices Spike in Scramble for World Cup Flight Tickets

Julius Baumann

Johannesburg — THE prices of available airline tickets for flights to SA during next year's World Cup have spiked in recent weeks as travellers scramble to secure a seat.

Many airlines are either holding back seats until the World Cup schedule is finalised on December 4 or are already close to being sold out, leading to a surge in prices.

However, the spike is likely to be short-lived as airlines will release extra seats after the draw in Cape Town. The draw will determine when and where each team will play, allowing airlines to finalise their World Cup plans.

Sue Botes, commercial manager of British Airways in SA, said many flights, particularly near the start and end of the tournament, were sold out and only seats in the higher category were available.

" The highest rate BA will charge for any economy seat is £3449, our full economy fare . We opened all our flights after England qualified ... and will only decide how much extra capacity, if any, we will add over the World Cup after the draw ."

Vimla Maistry, South African Airways (SAA) spokeswoman said yesterday the airline had so far only made a small percentage of World Cup seats available and would supply the rest as soon as the draw was completed .

"At the same time SAA will be able to identify demand and will utilise the venue information to optimise its flight schedules and offer customers the best travel options during the World Cup."

Maistry said seats currently available for booking were in the highest inventory classes, with the best fares already sold out.

SAA plans to run a 24-hour operation during the World Cup, increasing the utilisation of its aircraft fleet to accommodate the different match times on each day and the constant flow of passengers expected as a result.

The airline is also in talks with its Star Alliance partners to provide aircraft . Lufthansa and Swissair have confirmed they are willing to make their long-haul aircraf, usually standing idle during the day at OR Tambo International Airport, available to SAA for use on domestic routes.



- Still unclear whether BA will have the 2nd daily CPT flight, and if Lufthansa is to fly to CPT during that time...at the moment it's all the usual winter schedule.

SAA will increase BUENOS AIRES - JOHANNESBURG to 1 daily with B747 (now 3 or 4 weekly with A340)

Will Malaysia increase BUENOS AIRES - CAPE TOWN? It's operated with B747

^^ with flight frequencies increased, can we expect drop in fares or pretty much no increase in fares as long as they dont inflate due to supply/demand?

From Interlink's website:

ABOUTINTERLINK
2010 Charters
Interlink Airlines is pleased to announce its comprehensive flight programme for the 2010 FIFA WORLD CUP. Interlink Airlines will be offering three unique products during this busy time:

SCHEDULED SERVICES NETWORK
Based at our hub in Pretoria Wonderboom Airport, Interlink Airlines will be offering scheduled services to:

Cape Town
Durban
Bloemfontein
Polokwane
Kruger Mpumalanga
Richards Bay
Pietermaritzburg
George
Port Elizabeth
Our inventory will be available for sale from Friday 04 December 2009 on our website at www.interlinkairlines.com. Special group rates are available on our scheduled services and may be requested by emailing: holidays@interlinkairlines.com.

Interlink Airlines has secured its arrival and departure slots for 2010 and will be operating in excess of 80 flights per day during this period.

CLOSED CHARTER NETWORK.
In addition to our scheduled services, Interlink Airlines is able to offer the travel trade, corporations and events co-ordinators large group capacity on our closed charter network. This network will be operating during the 2010 FIFA WORLD CUP from our base at Johannesburg O R Tambo International Airport. Flights will be operated to:

Cape Town
Durban
Polokwane
Kruger Mpumalanga
Port Elizabeth
Special rates as well as AIRPASSES are available on our closed charter network. For more information please email: neil@interlinkairlines.com

INTERNATIONAL CHARTER NETWORK
Interlink Airlines is pleased to offer International Charter Services on our Boeing 767 aircraft. Please email neil@interlinkairlines.com with your specific requirements for International Incoming Charters for the 2010 FIFA World Cup.

Seems these above mentioned flights of Interlink is becoming available for booking now, and it's alot, I think they might be over optimistic maybe...?
From 24 May to 28 July...4x daily flights to Polokwane, Nelspruit with prices at R1600 one-way for a 30-minute flights.
3x daily to Pietermaritzburg, Richards Bay
2x daily to George with R2000 one-way flights

I expected flights here and there around the matches, but I'm not so sure about all these...or maybe it's good to be prepared, rather have more available...but maybe the prices just needs to reflect the demand on the specific days.

Oh, and the aircraft, not sure where it's coming from.

Interesting but I don't think it would be a good idea to start booking on these new routes just yet. Will be surprising if they do actualyl materialise. Big ambitions from an airline that the vast majority of South Africans have never heard of despite being around for many years.

All of ID's 2010 flights seem to be priced around the R1600 (one way) mark, so a 30 min flight to Polokwane will cost you the same as a 90 min flight to George. Hmmf. I wonder what aircraft they will be operating on their 2010 routes? You won't get a BAe 146 or a 737 into either Pietermaritzburg or Richards Bay...

In addition to people going to the world cup, what about regular users of the airlines, business people, students etc. What are they going to do?

I have two sons at Rhodes and I live in Durban, they fly 8 times a year usually on Kulula,the Universities have not changed their vacation times and students have to leave residence over the holiday vacs. Its a bit unfair that everyone gets ripped off by the airlines because of the World Cup.

Just a footnote, Kulula frequently leave the students bags at the airport because of the "trim" even in really good weather, its the CT/PE/DBN route. Then the bags get sent to JHB and then back to DBN, crazy,surely they know how many people are on the flight and what the weight allowance is per person, its happened so many times I've lost count, regardless of the weather conditions...good luck for the WCup....should be interesting:nuts:

^^ the universities should have changed there times (I think they have to) but yeah it does still mean traveling over a similar time frame).

World Air Group, specialise in dry, wet lease and charters of aircraft to operators and airlines worldwide.

We have a portfolio of aircraft for the World Cup 2010, and would like to be able to offer you this service. We will consider serious ACMI requests. ACMI requests are charged an hourly rate, on a set number of hours per month, charters are charged per passenger. Charter aircraft gives you the allowance to create a healthy profit margin for your package pricing. Although we are able to source and provide literally any aircraft in the world, we currently have a large portfolio of aircraft available.

We currently have Boeing 737,747, 757, 767 and 777. We also have Airbus A320, A330, A340 and A380 available.

Whether you require full charter of aircraft to cover the duration of the competition or purely to provide cover due to technical problems, we are able to assist.

Please email charters@worldairgroup.co.uk or sales@worldairgroup.co.uk.

If possible please advise us of the following, which will assist in getting you an accurate quotation: -

Operation: World Cup 2010
Dates: Start/end
From/To:
No of PAX total:
No of PAX per sector/flight:
Flight operation plan:

Anybody know maybe if SAA's plans is still according to that first post we have in this thread...with the full schedule and bookings to be open on 15 December?

anyone know what's the checked in baggage allowance limit on domestic airlines in SA?

^^ As far as I know, 23 kg on Comair (i.e. British Airways and kulula.com), 20 kg if you're flying with anyone else.

so only 23 kg in 1 checked in bag ?

^^ That I'm not too sure about, since I usually only check in one bag (or no bags at all) - however, I'm sure that you can check in multiple bags, so long as the combined weight doesn't exceed the limit. (Excess baggage charges are insane - I had to deal with that when I was studying in Cape Town and returned home to family in Durban for the first time. Students always do that the first time... and always learn the first time too! :lol:)

World Air Group, specialise in dry, wet lease and charters of aircraft to operators and airlines worldwide.

We have a portfolio of aircraft for the World Cup 2010, and would like to be able to offer you this service. We will consider serious ACMI requests. ACMI requests are charged an hourly rate, on a set number of hours per month, charters are charged per passenger. Charter aircraft gives you the allowance to create a healthy profit margin for your package pricing. Although we are able to source and provide literally any aircraft in the world, we currently have a large portfolio of aircraft available.

We currently have Boeing 737,747, 757, 767 and 777. We also have Airbus A320, A330, A340 and A380 available.

Whether you require full charter of aircraft to cover the duration of the competition or purely to provide cover due to technical problems, we are able to assist.

Please email charters@worldairgroup.co.uk or sales@worldairgroup.co.uk.

If possible please advise us of the following, which will assist in getting you an accurate quotation: -

Operation: World Cup 2010
Dates: Start/end
From/To:
No of PAX total:
No of PAX per sector/flight:
Flight operation plan:

Where did they get an A380 from?

i was thinking the same thing, i actually emailed them a while back regarding there false advertising

^^ That I'm not too sure about, since I usually only check in one bag (or no bags at all) - however, I'm sure that you can check in multiple bags, so long as the combined weight doesn't exceed the limit. (Excess baggage charges are insane - I had to deal with that when I was studying in Cape Town and returned home to family in Durban for the first time. Students always do that the first time... and always learn the first time too! :lol:)

it is 23kg or 20kg in one bag. if you split it over two bags you will pay extra

^^ ok, thanks. so 23kg in 1 bag it is... :)

We are starting to see some additional flights enter the schedules for the World Cup. Delta are increasing Atlanta-Johannesburg from daily to 10 times per week adding flights on Mon, Wed, Fri. They extra flights will also operate non-stop on a 777-200 LR. The flights are already in the schedules and are bookable.

^^ Will we see Delta retake their slots to Cape Town?

^^ Will we see Delta retake their slots to Cape Town?

Doesn't look likely! It seems as though they are favouring Joburg over Cape Town!

what happened to the plans where americas go to CPT europe and africa to JNB and asia and australia to KSIA?

Wondering the same thing... unless these additional flights are part of their existing landing rights to ORTIA or it's a permanent increase that will persist after July 2010. But, to be honest, I'm shocked at how few major additions in flights we've heard of thus far. The only significant additions I can recall are Delta's ATL service increase, Emirates adding capacity and TAM Brazil adding flights... is there anything else??? :ohno:

I would have expected Lufthansa, Iberia, BA, KLM and Virgin to have announced increases by now, SAA to add some additional international capacity, particularly to North America and South America; Cape Town flights to have increased capacity and not "going seasonal" this year... or have I missed some stuff? I would have also expected a LHR-KSIA flight to be in the advanced stages of investigation by now.

^^ well with SAA launching 25 odd extra planes and have now had a month to let people know their plans, i feel they are falling behind. people will not come at the last minute if they dont have a ticket to the games.

I feel these airlines are all leaving things way too late.

Wondering the same thing... unless these additional flights are part of their existing landing rights to ORTIA or it's a permanent increase that will persist after July 2010. But, to be honest, I'm shocked at how few major additions in flights we've heard of thus far. The only significant additions I can recall are Delta's ATL service increase, Emirates adding capacity and TAM Brazil adding flights... is there anything else???

I would have expected Lufthansa, Iberia, BA, KLM and Virgin to have announced increases by now, SAA to add some additional international capacity, particularly to North America and South America; Cape Town flights to have increased capacity and not "going seasonal" this year... or have I missed some stuff? I would have also expected a LHR-KSIA flight to be in the advanced stages of investigation by now.

Well, it still remains to be seen if all those plans by SAA mentioned on the first post in this thread is to become reality...was expected at 15 December, but 15 January might be as well, there is something stated on there for that date.
SAA have announced the increase to Sao Paulo from 7 to 11 weekly, but that's the only major change so far.
BA have only said that they'll re-instate the extra 5 weekly JNB flights from end March, looking into adding flights to CPT.
Iberia is to increase flights slightly to 6/7 weekly on some weeks during the tournament. Also TAP Portugal having 6/7 weekly from current 3/4 weekly (they vary alot).
Kenya Airways changing one of their 3 daily flights from March to a 767, on some days at the beginning of the tournament they'll have all 3 daily flights with 767.
Ethiopian changing from 737 to 767 as well.
Air Austral sending 777-200s instead of 737s.

What do you know about extra Emirates capacity and the TAM flights, can't find any confirmed information?

^^ Thought it was stated earlier that Emirates will be using the A380 on the JNB flights, whilst investigating larger PAX planes for Durbs and CPT... I may have understood or am remembering wrong??! :)

Didn't TAM Brazil say a while back they will be offering charter services during the World Cup from Brazil to JNB... that's what I recall.

Thought it was stated earlier that Emirates will be using the A380 on the JNB flights, whilst investigating larger PAX planes for Durbs and CPT... I may have understood or am remembering wrong??!

Didn't TAM Brazil say a while back they will be offering charter services during the World Cup from Brazil to JNB... that's what I recall.

The Emirates things are all just speculation, rumours and hopes so far, at the moment all their schedules look exactly as same as usual.
TAM did say they'll fly, but still there is no indication of any flights.

^^ Well, I'm really hoping for some clarity and some major indications of additional flights soon... this is being left way too late IMO. :ohno: If one just looks at the difficulty in getting flights in/out of Cape Town during a normal peak season, I'm fearing the airlines could stifle our World Cup arrivals if they don't come to the party soon. Cape Town International for example cannot handle WC arrivals without the complete continuation off all seasonal flights. We'll be operating at minimal PAX capacity.

ORTIA definitely needs additional capacity to Spain, Portugal, Germany and France. Technically, Lufthansa, Air Berlin and even SAA need to continue CPT-Germany flights during the WC. I think it would also be wise for Air France to add services to CPT for the WC period.

England needs additional capacity too, good on BA for at least stating some increases. Virgin has to keep their CPT flights going and SAA needs additional capacity for both CPT and JNB. Also, KSIA needs direct flights to at least one European destination, I pick LHR and even maybe FRA.

South America needs more capacity, so thanks to TAM, that may happen and SAA's small increase in Sao Paulo capacity. Cape Town NEEDS a more efficient S.American connection, as SA's western gateway...

N.America needs much more capacity... Delta has come to the party somewhat, but SAA is silent... the Americans have bought the most tickets of any other foreign nation!

Seems the African airlines, like Kenyan and Ethiopian are taking this seriously and adding some capacity, so that's good. Where are the west African carriers though? They have critical teams in the WC and capacity there seems stagnant...

Australia is doing a little better with direct MEL-JNB flights commencing with V-Australia... but is SAA again adding nothing to Perth and QANTAS silent on SYD? Would be cool if KSIA could get an Oz connection, but I don't know how realistic that is.

Our Far-East connections seem a little disjointed... but luckily there aren't too many teams from that side. Emirates needs to add capacity to at least assure more seats for those traveling from the East.

Just my rant... I hope we hear more soon. :nuts:

^^ well with SAA launching 25 odd extra planes and have now had a month to let people know their plans, i feel they are falling behind. people will not come at the last minute if they dont have a ticket to the games.

I feel these airlines are all leaving things way too late.

Folks won't come if accommodation prices and internal flight prices don't drop.I know of virtually hundreds that are stalling ,knowing that providers will have to temper their extortion.
This is a really strange situation because these people are football diehards,but simply won't cop a 500% increase.
200-250% is fair game for such a major event I reckon ,but I've already seen people selling their match tickets because they can no longer achieve their original budget

DELTA is to operate extra Atlanta – Johannesburg NONSTOP service during the Soccer World Cup in South Africa in June and July 2010.

The increased service will also operates with Boeing 777-200LR. Schedule as follows:

DL200 ATL1925 – 1705+1JNB 77L D
DL201 JNB2020 – 0645+1ATL 77L D

DL102 ATL2120 – 1900+1JNB 77L 135 09JUN10 – 14JUN10
DL102 ATL2110 – 1850+1JNB 77L 19JUN10
DL102 ATL2105 – 1845+1JNB 77L 22JUN10
DL102 ATL2120 – 1900+1JNB 77L 11JUL10

DL103 JNB2100 – 0725+1ATL 77L 246 10JUN10 – 15JUN10
DL103 JNB2055 – 0720+1ATL 77L 20JUN10
DL103 JNB2100 – 0725+1ATL 77L 23JUN10/12JUL10

http://airlineroute.net/2010/01/05/dl-atljnb-s10/

World Cup: SAA to fly 24 hours
January 06, 2010 Edition 2


There would be planes in the South African sky from morning to night during the World Cup this year, SAA said yesterday.

"SAA plans to run a 24-hour operation during the World Cup in order to accommodate match times scheduled and passenger movements around these," said SAA spokeswoman Azure Janneker.

Janneker said the airline was working with Match - the official provider of tickets, accommodation and logistics for the World Cup - to assist with transport.

"No decision has been finalised on whether SAA will receive additional aircraft or personnel," she said.

Janneker said tickets would be costed according to the same pricing structure currently offered.

Last month, SAA and Match signed a co-operation agreement. According to the agreement, SAA will provide 45 000 return flights for Match customers to fly between Joburg, Durban and Cape Town and between Durban and Cape Town. - Sapa


http://www.thestar.co.za/index.php?fArticleId=5303266

IBERIA in Northern Summer 2010 season is to increase service on the Madrid – Johannesburg route in anticipation of the Soccer World Cup. From 22APR10, service increase from 4 to 5 weekly (Day x56, new frequency on Day 3). 6th weekly service on Day 5 will be added from 29MAY10 and by 06JUN10 it’ll operates Daily.

Service returns to 4 weekly from 09JUL10.

Schedules as follows:

IB6051 MAD0130 – 1125JNB 340 D
IB6050 JNB21030 – 0635+1MAD 340 D

Posted in 2010, IBERIA, [oneWorld]


http://airlineroute.net/2010/01/06/ib-madjnb-s10/

just saw in an article that there are going to be around 2000 flights across SA during the world cup, and that the plans for international flights to be spread across our 3 main airports is still on the cards but yet to be confirmed

SA braces for huge World Cup fly-in

January 10 2010 at 12:20PM
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By Tanya Waterworth and Melanie Peters

With up to half a million international fans expected to jet into South Africa for the Fifa World Cup, an estimated 2 000 aircraft will criss-cross the country every day during the six-week period.

A huge logistical planning project is under way to manage the safe air-traffic flow from before the tournament begins on June 11 to after July 11 when it ends.

Transport Department spokesman Sam Monareng said there would be a "three-hub" strategy, with specific airlines flying into either Cape Town, Durban, or OR Tambo International.

It is understood that flights from the Americas will generally come to Cape Town, European flights to OR Tambo, and Asian flights to Durban.

"This will only affect additional flights and will not affect existing services at these airports," Monareng said.

"The strategy seeks to alleviate potential pressure on OR Tambo. Airlines will be encouraged - not forced - to operate these additional services, according to the three-hub strategy. So what is the point of the 3 hubs then? Airlines currently offering services to South Africa will continue to do so during the World Cup and may increase flights according to air-services agreements.

"We anticipate that there will also be a high volume of charter flights."

Monareng said aviation planning was being done by a body known as the Aviation Sub-Sector Task Team.

Detailed operational plans were being developed involving various role players, including Civil Aviation at the Department of Transport, the Airports Company SA, Air Traffic and Navigation Services, and SA Civil Aviation Authorities.

Monareng said: "OR Tambo is the local airport with the largest capacity and can handle about 60 aircraft movements an hour. All the three main airports can handle the A380 super jumbo aircraft." Really???

The department says discussions are also under way with the SA Air Force to use some of its air bases for aircraft parking, should the need for this arise.

Anna Sanfilippo, spokeswoman for Air Traffic and Navigation Services, said that for the six weeks of heightened aviation around the World Cup, an estimated 30 000 to 40 000 slots had already been booked for the three major airports.

Acsa has already said the upgrades of Cape Town International and OR Tambo are on track and will be ready to meet the surge in demand, while the new Durban airport at La Mercy is to be opened on May 1.

Deborah Francis, spokeswoman for Cape Town International, said planning for the tournament had begun more than a year ago, and these plans were being constantly updated as more information became available.

The upgrades of the airport meant it would be able to cope with the demands to be made on it. These included landings and take-offs, terminal buildings, baggage handling, and vehicle parking.

"Negotiations are under way with the military to provide additional aircraft parking at air-force bases if needed. To accommodate airline schedules as well as game kick-off times in Cape Town, the airport will operate on a 24-hour basis."

Airport staff were taking part in bi-weekly meetings with the City of Cape Town, teams from the province and consultants to ensure Cape Town had a robust public transport system. This included planning around bus services, additional taxi services, and car rentals.

In addition to the current bus and taxi areas, Acsa had identified a new area to be known as the transport plaza.

An Airport Management Centre would be opened soon to co-ordinate the airport's 24-hour operations and to provide effective services for passengers. The centre would be run by people from the airport's departments including Acsa, the airlines, the ground handlers, and air traffic control.

"Intensive training will take place over the next two months to ensure these representatives are equipped with the necessary skills."

SAA is working with Match, Fifa's accommodation agency, to assist with transport, but spokesman Azure Janneker said no decision had yet been made on whether SAA would hire additional aircraft or pilots for the tournament.

Last month, SAA and Match signed a co-operation agreement, which obliges SAA to provide 45 000 return flights for Match customers to fly between Johannesburg, Durban and Cape Town.

Other SA carriers, such as Comair, are also planning to increase capacity.

Comair joint CEO Gidon Novick said his group planned to increase its capacity by 50 percent to 450 000 seats, leasing two Boeing 737-800s.

Thousands of fans will fly into South Africa on package deals. Emirates has confirmed it will be using the A380. Really??

"We, along with other airlines, have been approached to use our aircraft during the day when they are standing idle, but no decision has yet been made," said Fouad Caunhye, Emirates regional manager, Southern Africa.

Gabriel Leupold of Lufthansa said SAA had already officially approached both Star Alliance partners Lufthansa and Swiss about their willingness to deploy their aircraft while they stood idle at OR Tambo and Cape Town International.

woohoo! A380's coming our way! :banana:

a very false report, there is absolutely no confirmation of A380 to SA, and CPT cant handle A380

Emirates doesn't necessarily have to employ A380 to CT. Could be planning to use solely on JHB route, or to JHB and DBN.

I have read reports before that Air France was going to use their A380 to go to Johannesburg from 3 February foward.

Yip Air France is the only confirmation we have so far but that wasnt just for the World Cup.

There's some movement on SAA's website, some night flights are becoming available, departing out of JNB after 02:00am in the morning.

after asking an emirates employee(who is involved with their route planning) on what we can expect for the world cup and wether the A380 would be headed our way anytime soon, his response was as follows

"There is lots of frequency into South Africa hence no requirement to upgauge to A380 yet. I would expect one of the JNB flights to move to A380 in the next 12 months or so. I was expecting EK763/764 to upgrade to A380s in the 2010/11 operating plan however it has clearly been overtaken by China (PEK/PVG) routes. But nothing is set in stone and ultimately demand will dictate where aircraft are allocated so the schedule is always subject to change. And sponsorship of a World Cup doesnt determine an upgrade of a route to an A380.

The World Cup plan exists but will not necessarily be formally announced -- but there is a plan in place that involves basing some aircraft in South Africa operating some local sectors (all subject to government approval though). Upgrading DXB flights to JNB and CPT during the World Cup is under consideration but subject to availabilty of A380 aircraft from other scheduled routes. Recall the next A380 delivery is not until the end of June now -- so not ideal in terms of adding to World Cup flights. The most likely scenario is extra flights operated by B777-300ERs (both 2 and 3 class versions) to cope with the extra demand. I've heard that some of the MRU flights may also carry onward to South Africa during the World Cup but subject to government approval."

I'm starting to agree with Mike. He has been placing a lot of the blame for lack of interest in the World Cup at their door due to lack of capacity and thus, due to constrained supply, extremely inflated prices nobody can afford.

Just read in the Sunday Argus that the German carriers plan no additional capacity around the World Cup. Basically, Lufthansa stated they will add no additional flights for the period and continue with winter business as usual... this therefore insinuates, no additional capacity for JNB and a suspension of flights to CPT for winter. Plus, Air Berlin has clearly stated they will, as per usual, withdraw from CPT in April, thus having no presence in South Africa during the World Cup at all!

This is becoming a massive worry. I'm seriously concerned that the airlines will hurt us tremendously! If we can't warrant "Peak Season" capacity in South Africa during the world's largest sporting event... then I don't know what to expect. I do not believe the World Cup will be a failure, but I'm seriously concerned capacity and inflated costs due to constrained supply will leave us in a precarious position; completely unfulfilled expectations and lack of tourist spending seriously jeopardising our investment as a nation in such a massive event!

:( :( :( :cry:

Tickets from Europe to South Africa for the world cup are extremely expensive.

Travel to attend the Portugals kick-off cost 2 thousand euros

The Portuguese who want to watch the kick-off of the national team in World Cup in South Africa live , on June 15, will spend about 2000€ ( R26000 ) in travel.

According to research agency Lusa, British Airways is the airline that has the cheapest offer, followed by TAP and Air France, being the only Portuguese company to establish direct connection between Lisbon and Johannesburg.

At British Airways, the most economical travel to attend the first national team game against Ivory Coast, departing 14th and return on June 16, costs 1921 euros, with a stopover at Heathrow airport in London.

In the Portuguese airline, the cost of traveling back and forth between Lisbon and Johannesburg is 2008 euros in class "Plus", since the TAP has no longer available tickets on most economic classes (Basic and Classic).

On the same dates, the cheapest Air France, which makes the connection between Lisbon and Johannesburg flights at Charles de Gaulle airport in Paris, a trip to see the premier of Portugal in the World Cup in South Africa costs 2131 euros.

The airlines Lufthansa and Iberia are also an option for the Portuguese who want to support Portugal, in the Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium in Port Elizabeth, but prices climb to 2839 and 3284 respectively, with stops in Frankfurt and Madrid.

However, travel agents are going to market special packages for the 2010 World Cup, including travel and accommodation, which are an alternative for those wishing to travel to South Africa

According to the Portuguese Association of Travel Agencies and Tourism (APVT), "the South Africa is a country that is not within the reach of pocket for all the people."

Paul Brehm, adviser to the WTTC, said recently that "the majority of stakeholders are the Portuguese companies that are interested in what they call incentive travel, who want to offer the best customer or a few employees"

The travel agent Abreu has not yet prepared any package trips to the World Cup.

Missing 138 days to kick of the World Cup in South Africa which is scheduled for June 11 the opening game between the teams of South Africa and Mexico.

the airlines are making me SICK!!!

David Carte
27 January 2010 17:39

Greed threatens World Cup
Airlines, hotels, B&Bs and Fifa gouge guests

JOHANNESBURG - Soccer worldwide is the game of the working class but, thanks to rampant greed, the Fifa World Cup being staged in SA in June will be affordable only to wealthy foreigners.

Don't be surprised if fewer than the hoped-for 500 000 tourists arrive in June.

The greed is by no means only South African. It starts with airlines eager to make good on their multi-billion dollar losses of the past two years, includes SA hotels and B&Bs and extends to Fifa itself, which is charging up to $900 (R6 849) a ticket for the final (Click here to check out our gallery on Fifa's ticket briefing). Airlines and hotels have doubled and trebled their normal prices.

If Fifa is wondering why ticket sales are slow, if the hotels are sitting with empty rooms, perhaps they should ask themselves if soccer fans are all related to Bill Gates. Did anyone notice there's a worldwide recession going on?

The table provides some interesting price comparisons between the cost of travelling to SA from London in the next couple of weeks (Feb 2-10) compared to World Cup time (June 15-23). The first two columns are prices in rands from www.fly.co.za. The third and fourth column are also prices in rands extracted from airline websites.


[NB:TABLE CAN BE FOUND AT HYPERLINK AT BOTTOM]


In short, a number of airlines have come close to quadrupling their prices.

If I fly KLM economy from Holland to SA next week, the cost would be R7 053 to R9 279 return. In mid-June, at the height of the World Cup, the cost would be up to €1 837 (R19 729) - double the price. Fly.co.za cited one price for Lufthansa as high as R40 275.

KLM's spokesperson in SA said KLM had not increased prices specifically because of the cup but admitted fares were higher "because of supply and demand".

He said ticket purchases were recorded in the revenue management system and prices of each flight automatically rose as flights filled up. KLM has at this stage not been able to deploy even one extra flight into SA.

He also spoke for Air France, whose prices are a good deal lower but still at a premium during the cup. Air France had been able to lay on two additional flights.

Flight prices can differ by thousands per day, depending on demand for each particular flight. SAA's website would not allow me to price flights from London.

SAA gave me a ponderous statement as follows: "South African airfares are some of the least expensive in the world, even during the World Cup period. On any given holiday, special event or long weekend, most flights on all carriers have only the highest fares available due to high demand. This is normal operation practice in all hospitality industries, not only for airlines.

"Less than 20% of SAA's published domestic fares during the World Cup period include a 50% increase in full fare business and economy class in the highest fare category. Much of the remainder of these published fares have in fact decreased year on year due to currency effects on the rand along with the effects of the recession.

"These limited increases are to help offset the higher cost of running a 24-hour operation, which SAA has planned for the duration of the World Cup event. The increased costs include higher staffing costs and additional airport charges.

"SAA has already received a large amount of interest in these higher fares, particularly during peak World Cup game times when many flights already sold out

"SAA will have flights returning empty from match destinations in order for them to resume their normal flight schedule. Parking these aircraft in match cities would result in significant revenue loss for the airline. During normal periods (outside of the World Cup) these aircraft operate at full capacity, parking the aircraft would mean losing this valuable traffic and neglecting our normal day-today customers

"Only the highest demand or peak flights will offer this higher pricing structure. The rest of the schedule offers SAA's normal pricing.

Internationally, SAA has increased only four of its available fare categories by between 7% and 24% on its North America and South America flights. This will assist in offsetting the cost of additional flights that have been added to routes in these regions due to high demand. "

A British Airways spokesperson said it was unfair to compare prices now, during the low season of flying to SA. He said BA's prices during the World Cup had moved up to high season prices. The high season normally lasts for the SA summer from October to February.

He said prices were highest at the beginning of the World Cup from June 10 and at the end around July 10. That's when people staying for the duration will be flying. But prices rise and fall daily, according to how full flights are. BA has put on an extra five flights a week to cope with demand.

Then there is the cost of tickets to the games. For foreigners, Category 1 tickets to the quarter finals are $300 and to the semis $600. Apparently these prices are not out of line with those charged in Germany. Special allowances are being made to South Africans.

But a foreigner wanting to follow his successful national team through the maximum of seven games, could be in for $2 728 (R20 760) just for tickets.

Virgin Money estimates that English and French fans will pay on average £6 200 each if their country gets to the final, while Australians will cough up, on average, £10 035 in the unlikely event of the Kangaroos reaching the final. Virgin estimates that UK fans will spend £371m in SA.

Foreign visitors have been advised to choose one city as a base and to fly or drive to venues. That spells a lot of domestic flying. It normally costs around R2 000 to fly from Johannesburg to Cape Town. During the World Cup SAA's price goes up to R6 000 - three times normal.

Gidon Novick of Comair, which runs BA and kulula.com said fares would depend on demand. They were likely to equal normal peak season prices. On big days they might go up to Business Class prices.

At the moment, he said, extra demand is evident only before and after the big games. He said BA/kulula would be holding a World Cup sale of 10 000 tickets. It has bought three new aircraft. It will delay retiring three aircraft just to have the extra capacity. He said if necessary flights will run all night. BA and kulula together will be able to step up capacity by 70%.

Accommodation will also not be cheap. A basic two-star self catering hostelry in Cape Town is $1 600-$1 700 for six nights or R2 125 a night, at least double the normal rate. The going rate for three and four star small hotels in Cape Town and Sandton is around $300 per person per night.

A tented camp near Nelspruit is $363-$726 for a minimum of three nights. Another Nelspruit hostelry is charging $735 for three nights. The best bargain seems to be the Protea Hotel Edward in Durban, for decades SA's smartest hotel, at $1 164 for three nights.

A Dutch visitor's budget could look like this: air fare €1 500, hotel accommodation for ten days €2 000, flying around inside SA €2 000, car hire €500, food and drink €1 000 and seat prices (assuming Holland gets to the final) of €1 930. That makes nearly €9 000, which is nearly R95 000 for just one person!

I hate to join the naysayers about the World Cup. We have come a long way - stadiums ready, roads improved, lots of new facilities, a great party in prospect. I really hope we pull it off spectacularly.

This World Cup is more difficult in that most foreigners will be forced to make longhaul flights. Still a million tickets have been sold to foreigners from 192 countries and a million to locals. Six matches are oversubscribed. There are only a million left and Danny Jordaan is confident of selling them all. One has to give him credit. Poorer SA fans have been taken into account.

At a media conference on Wednesday, Fifa general secretary Jerome Valcker admitted that thousands of ticket holders have not been able to get on a flight from Europe.

Jaime Byron, executive chairman of Match, which looks after flights and accommodation told me that Fifa has hired four Boeing 747s and about ten 737s to meet demand. He said SAA was "committed and competent" and was quite sure that domestic flights will be no problem.

He is to visit all 32 participating countries to make sure that more longhaul flights are made available. So prospects are good that some fares will fall.

Success will be good for SA's image in the world. It will confound the racists and the naysayers and put us in a good position for future Olympics, the rugby and the cricket World Cups and other global events.

Byron almost persuaded me that my attitude is too parochial. I speak as a South African used to low prices. For the world's biggest showpiece that occurs only once every four years, he said, you must expect to pay premiums for air fares, hotels and the rest. This is the type of event that you tell your grandchildren about.

Write to David Carte: davidcarte@moneyweb.co.za


http://www.moneyweb.co.za/mw/view/mw/en/page292673?oid=342900&sn=2009+Detail&pid=287226

Airlines probed over World Cup fares

The Competition Commission is investigating collusion among local airlines, it said on Thursday.

"The Competition Commission has initiated an investigation against major airlines BA/Comair, South African Airways, 1Time, SA Airlink, Mango and SA Express for allegedly colluding on prices and pricing strategies to be adopted during the Fifa 2010 World Cup tournament," it said in a statement.

The commission said the investigation followed a leniency application by South Africa Airways (SAA) in December in which it undertook to fully co-operate with the commission, in exchange for leniency from prosecution under the Competition Act.

"In November 2009, the Office of the President also requested the commission to look into concerns that airlines planned to escalate their airfares during the World Cup."

The commission said in its application, SAA provided email correspondence between the airlines in which there were indications they might adjust airfares ahead of the World Cup.

"In particular, the email suggests that since there is no indication as to which flights will represent peak demand flights, airlines have the option to either not provide any inventory for sale until such time, or price all inventory at peak time rates until such time as they have greater certainty."

The e-mail correspondence also suggested airfares would have to be raised to cover various anticipated additional costs.

"The soccer World Cup tournament provides South African business with a good opportunity to showcase our international competitiveness, an opportunity which could have positive and lasting benefits," Commissioner Shan Ramburuth said.

"But it is also possible that some firms might want to exploit the situation by engaging in anti-competitive conduct."

He said the commission was obliged to investigate all legitimate complaints.

"The commission will investigate the allegations made by SAA and circumstances surrounding the allegations to determine if the airlines have colluded to increase prices, or adopt similar pricing strategies ahead of the World Cup."

If it was found they had, the commission would refer the case to the Competition Tribunal for a hearing and request an appropriate penalty.

Meanwhile, SAA confirmed in a statement it was in discussion with the commission about an application for leniency.

"We have submitted a leniency application in December last year to the Competition Commission after having received correspondence related to pricing during the World Cup period," spokesperson Vimla Maistry said in a statement.

"SAA undertook to fully co-operate with the Commission in exchange for leniency from prosecution under the Competition Act."

SA Express insisted it was "not party" to the alleged collusion.

"The airline has been involved in discussions, under the auspices of the department of transport, regarding capacity requirements for 2010," said airline spokesperson Dileseng Koetle in a statement.

"This was to simply ensure adequate fleet planning." - Sapa


Published on the Web by IOL on 2010-01-28 22:25:48


http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=13&art_id=nw20100128222548947C728571

1time is still charging exorbitant prices during the world cup whereas kulula are dropped their prices! their website says - The Low Fare Business Model
my ass!!

Kulula havent dropped their prices when ever I check, still sky high!

They did drop significantly, maybe just 2 or 3 days around very peak times still high, but they had a set price throughout June/July for every route on all flights.
JNB/HLA-CPT was R2299 one-way...now mostly R769, few at R719.
JNB/HLA-DUR was R1199 one-way...now mostly R569 and R519
JNB-GRJ was R2299 one-way...now R589.

These are reasonably, we really can't expect to go lower, R399/R499.

See that Mango have also adjusted prices and also their schedules, especially around match-days in respective cities, several nigh-flights as well.
Wonder if they'll serve other routes as well?

1Time will still come to the party...they were last with putting up their flights, so would probably be within the next week or so.

lets be honest here, Kulula only did it because of the competition enquiry (which actually highlights that they were the first to collude...)

They all deserve to be ripped to pieces!

I'm pissed off at this, we booked JNB - DUR with Kulula at R1199 and now the same flight is R519.

Would it be worth while asking them to refund the difference?

[QUOTE=cairngorm;51382491]I'm pissed off at this, we booked JNB - DUR with Kulula at R1199 and now the same flight is R519.QUOTE]

Same here! :ohno:

best thing to do, is to see how much a cancellation fee is, and if its worth it to cancel,pay the fee and rebook on the new price, you might just get some money back

best thing to do, is to see how much a cancellation fee is, and if its worth it to cancel,pay the fee and rebook on the new price, you might just get some money back

From the Kulula site

Q - I no longer want to travel on the flights that I have booked, how can I cancel my ticket?

A - There's no turning back now… once your booking has been confirmed, we unfortunately don't give refunds if you cancel - sorry!

they dont give refunds, but they do allow changes. we do it all the time with them for work. but end of the day u not going to get the cheaper ticket

SA Express and Airlink seems to have started loading the extra flights for the World Cup. At the moment there is extra flights for the first weekend from JNB only so far...probably quite a process to get everything loaded, when looking at the amound of flights:
Sunday 13 June, on JNB-Polokwane route there is 29 flights, yes 29...for Algeria vs Slovenia game...
Monday 14 June, on JNB-Bloemfontein 35 flights...for Japan vs Cameroon

WOW, now there still needs to be flights from everywhere else and then the big games we'll have to wait and see...

El Al 747 to Johannesburg in World Cup 10
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As per 12FEB10 GDS timetable display, El Al is to operate Boeing 747-400 instead of 767 on Tel Aviv – Johannesburg route from 25JUN10 and 02JUL10, replacing 767-200ER

Air Austral 777 to Johannesburg during World Cup 10
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Air Austral is tripling its capacity on 2 weekly St Denis de la Reunion – Johannesburg route during World Cup 2010. From 10JUN10 to 15JUL10, it is to operate 364-seater Boeing 777-200ER instead of 118-seater Boeing 737-500.

In addition, there is minor schedule change during this period. Schedule as follows:

UU371 RUN0750 – 1000JNB 772 7
UU341 RUN1120 – 1330JNB 772 4

UU372 JNB1150 – 1715RUN 772 7
UU342 JNB1520 – 2045RUN 772 4

FIFA 2010 World Cup Avation Draft Operations Plan (http://www.transport.gov.za/siteimgs/FIFA%202010%20World%20Cup%20Avation%20Draft%20Ops%20Plan%20Final%20document.pdf)

1time still has NOT dropped their fare prices!! Why? Kulula and Mango have.. I dont get it.
I would have saved R600 by not booking with 1time in December and used that money to book another route. Frustrated :( considering I had to shell out a lot on the international ticket :( :(

^^ no idea why...

Some more stuff for the WC:

South African Airways during World Cup is operating extra flights on domestic routes. As per 15FEB10, planned extra flights are the following:

Johannesburg – Bloemfontein All service operates on 14JUN10
SA1907 JNB0645 – 0745BFN CRJ
SA1909 JNB1015 – 1115BFN CRJ
SA1901 JNB1230 – 1330BFN CRJ
SA1905 JNB1230 – 1330BFN CRJ
SA1911 JNB1315 – 1415BFN CRJ
SA1913 JNB1615 – 1715BFN CRJ
SA1903 JNB1900 – 2000BFN CRJ
SA1915 JNB1915 – 2015BFN CRJ

SA1908 BFN0830 – 0930JNB CRJ
SA1910 BFN1145 – 1245JNB CRJ
SA1902 BFN1400 – 1500JNB CRJ
SA1906 BFN1400 – 1500JNB CRJ
SA1912 BFN1445 – 1545JNB CRJ
SA1914 BFN1745 – 1845JNB CRJ
SA1904 BFN2030 – 2130JNB CRJ
SA1916 BFN2045 – 2145JNB CRJ

Johannesburg – Cape Town
SA3351 JNB0205 – 0415CPT 738 x256 16JUN10 – 21JUN10
SA3361 JNB0230 – 0440CPT 738 x256 16JUN10 – 21JUN10
SA3363 JNB0235 – 0445CPT 738 x256 16JUN10 – 21JUN10
SA3351 JNB0205 – 0415CPT 738 x357 21JUN10 – 28JUN10
SA3361 JNB0230 – 0440CPT 738 x357 21JUN10 – 28JUN10
SA3363 JNB0235 – 0445CPT 738 x357 21JUN10 – 28JUN10
SA3351 JNB0205 – 0415CPT 738 x345 28JUN10 – 04JUL10
SA3361 JNB0230 – 0440CPT 738 x345 28JUN10 – 04JUL10
SA3363 JNB0235 – 0445CPT 738 x345 28JUN10 – 04JUL10
SA3351 JNB0205 – 0415CPT 738 12JUL10
SA3361 JNB0230 – 0440CPT 738 12JUL10
SA3363 JNB0235 – 0445CPT 738 12JUL10

SA3352 CPT0210 – 0410JNB 738 26 12JUN10 – 19JUN10
SA3354 CPT0215 – 0415JNB 738 26 12JUN10 – 19JUN10
SA3362 CPT0230 – 0430JNB 319 26 14JUN10 – 21JUN10
SA3364 CPT0235 – 0435JNB 738 26 15JUN10 – 19JUN10
SA3366 CPT0240 – 0440JNB 738 6 19JUN10
SA3384 CPT0740 – 0940JNB 738 24JUN10
SA3352 CPT0210 – 0410JNB 738 25JUN10/30JUN10/07JUL10
SA3354 CPT0215 – 0415JNB 738 25JUN10/30JUN10/07JUL10
SA3362 CPT0230 – 0430JNB 738 25JUN10/30JUN10/07JUL10
SA3364 CPT0235 – 0435JNB 319 25JUN10/30JUN10/07JUL10

Johannesburg – Durban
SA3501 JNB0200 – 0305DUR 738 x256 16JUN10 – 21JUN10
SA3509 JNB0230 – 0335DUR 738 x256 16JUN10 – 21JUN10
SA3501 JNB0200 – 0305DUR 738 x357 21JUN10 – 28JUN10
SA3509 JNB0230 – 0335DUR EQV x357 21JUN10 – 28JUN10
SA3501 JNB0200 – 0305DUR EQV x345 28JUN10 – 05JUL10
SA3509 JNB0230 – 0335DUR EQV x345 28JUN10 – 05JUL10
SA3501 JNB0200 – 0305DUR 738 12JUL10
SA3509 JNB0230 – 0335DUR 319 12JUL10

SA3502 DUR0200 – 0310JNB 738 14JUN10
SA3504 DUR0205 – 0315JNB 738 14JUN10
SA3506 DUR0210 – 0320JNB 319 14JUN10
SA3508 DUR0215 – 0325JNB 319 14JUN10
SA3502 DUR0200 – 0310JNB 738 23JUN10
SA3504 DUR0205 – 0315JNB 319 23JUN10
SA3506 DUR0210 – 0320JNB 738 23JUN10
SA3508 DUR0215 – 0325JNB 319 23JUN10
SA3502 DUR0200 – 0310JNB 738 08JUL10
SA3504 DUR0205 – 0315JNB 738 08JUL10
SA3506 DUR0210 – 0320JNB 738 08JUL10
SA3508 DUR0215 – 0325JNB 319 08JUL10

Johannesburg – Port Elizabeth All service operates on 18JUN10
SA3403 JNB0830 – 1010PLZ 738
SA3406 PLZ1040 – 1220JNB 738

Cape Town – Durban
SA3652 CPT0200 – 0355DUR 319 26 12JUN10 – 19JUN10
SA3662 CPT0230 – 0425DUR 319 26 12JUN10 – 19JUN10
SA3600 CPT0520 – 0825DUR 319 23JUN10
SA3606 CPT0905 – 1225DUR 319 23JUN10
SA3652 CPT0200 – 0355DUR 319 25JUN10/30JUN10/07JUL10
SA3662 CPT0230 – 0425DUR 319 25JUN10/30JUN10/07JUL10

SA3651 DUR0200 – 0410CPT EQV 14JUN10/23JUN10/08JUL10
SA3661 DUR0230 – 0440CPT 319 14JUN10/23JUN10/08JUL10

Cape Town – Port Elizabeth All flights operating on 23JUN10
SA3600 CPT0520 – 0630PLZ 738
SA3451 CPT0530 – 0640PLZ 738
SA3606 CPT0905 – 1030PLZ 738
SA3471 CPT2030 – 2140PLZ 738

SA3452 PLZ0710 – 0825CPT 738
SA3621 PLZ2115 – 2255CPT 738
SA3476 PLZ2150 – 2305CPT 738
SA3472 PLZ2210 – 2325CPT 738

Durban – Port Elizabeth All flights operating on 23JUN10
SA3621 DUR1810 – 1945PLZ 738

SA3600 PLZ0700 – 0825DUR 738
SA3606 PLZ1100 – 1225DUR 738

http://airlineroute.net/2010/02/15/sa-wc10/

Kenya Airways 767 to Johannesburg

Kenya Airways from 28MAR10 to 31AUG10 is to operate Boeing 767-300ER aircraft on Nairobi – Johannesburg KQ762/763 service, replacing Boeing 737. The remaining 2 daily flights continues to operate with 737.

http://airlineroute.net/2010/02/15/kq-jnb-s10/

For the tournament itself Kenya Airways initially planned to increase on most days all 3 daily flights to 767...but now, some of these is also increased even more to their 777-200s!

TAP Portugal World Cup Extra service
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TAP Portugal is operating extra services to Johannesburg during World Cup. Schedule as follows:

TP2283 LIS1805 – 0535+1JNB 332 09JUN10
TP2271 LIS1905 – 0635+1JNB 343 11JUN10/12JUN10/10JUL10
TP2273 LIS0950 – 2120JNB 332 13JUN10
TP2271 LIS1905 – 0635+1JNB 343 5 18JUN10 – 09JUL10
TP2273 LIS0950 – 2120JNB 332 6 19JUN10 – 10JUL10
TP2287 LIS1805 – 0550+1MPM0720+1 – 0830+1JNB 343 11JUL10

TP2283 JNB0705 – 0820MPM0945 – 1955LIS 332 10JUN10
TP2272 JNB0805 – 1745LIS 343 67 12JUN10 – 19JUN10
TP2272 JNB0805 – 1745LIS 343 6 20JUN10 – 10JUL10
TP2272 JNB0805 – 1745LIS 343 11JUL10
TP2270 JNB2250 – 0830+1LIS 332 6 19JUN10 – 17JUL10
TP2270 JNB2250 – 0830+1LIS 332 13JUN10
TP2287 JNB1000 – 1940LIS 343 12JUL10

So just to be clear SAA have currently given all their saver tickets to MATCH & only once they close applications will they be available to the South African public?

The source says SAA but the SA1*** flight numbers and equipment mentioned point to these being SAX flights:

South African Airways during the World Cup is to operate extra flights on Johannesburg – Pietersburg route from 12JUN10 to 14JUN10. Schedule as follows:

12JUN10
SA1927 JNB0630 – 0720PTG CR7
SA1213 JNB0645 – 0745PTG DH8
SA1923 JNB0645 – 0735PTG CR7
SA1917 JNB0820 – 0910PTG CRJ
SA1217 JNB0840 – 0940PTG DH8
SA1929 JNB0920 – 1010PTG CR7
SA1919 JNB1110 – 1200PTG CRJ
SA1219 JNB1155 – 1255PTG DH8
SA1931 JNB1210 – 1300PTG CR7
SA1921 JNB1405 – 1455PTG CRJ
SA1205 JNB1440 – 1530PTG DH8
SA1933 JNB1505 – 1555PTG CR7
SA1901 JNB1510 – 1620PTG DH8
SA1913 JNB1605 – 1655PTG CRJ
SA1201 JNB1635 – 1735PTG DH8
SA1909 JNB1700 – 1750PTG CRJ
SA1925 JNB1700 – 1750PTG CR7
SA1905 JNB1710 – 1800PTG DH4
SA1209 JNB1715 – 1815PTG DH8
SA1207 JNB1800 – 1900PTG DH8
SA1907 JNB1810 – 1905PTG DH4
SA1903 JNB1840 – 1950PTG DH8

SA1928 PTG0755 – 0845JNB CR7
SA1214 PTG0830 – 0940JNB DH8
SA1924 PTG0830 – 0920JNB CR7
SA1918 PTG0945 – 1035JNB CR7
SA1218 PTG1015 – 1115JNB DH8
SA1930 PTG1045 – 1135JNB CR7
SA1932 PTG1335 – 1425JNB CR7
SA1220 PTG1330 – 1430JNB DH8
SA1922 PTG1535 – 1625JNB CRJ
SA1206 PTG1620 – 1730JNB DH8
SA1934 PTG1630 – 1720JNB CR7
SA1902 PTG1650 – 1750JNB DH8
SA1914 PTG1730 – 1820JNB CRJ
SA1202 PTG1810 – 1910JNB DH8
SA1926 PTG1825 – 1915JNB CR7
SA1910 PTG1825 – 1915JNB CRJ
SA1906 PTG1840 – 1930JNB DH4
SA1210 PTG1850 – 1950JNB DH8
SA1908 PTG1930 – 2025JNB DH4
SA1208 PTG1940 – 2050JNB DH8
SA1904 PTG2015 – 2115JNB DH8
SA1216 PTG2030 – 2130JNB DH8
SA1204 PTG2125 – 2225JNB DH8
SA1212 PTG2140 – 2240JNB DH8

13JUN10
SA1219 JNB0500 – 0600PTG DH8
SA1205 JNB0500 – 0600PTG DH8
SA1201 JNB0515 – 0615PTG DH8
SA1919 JNB0530 – 0630PTG CR7
SA1923 JNB0545 – 0645PTG CRJ
SA1915 JNB0600 – 0700PTG CR7
SA1209 JNB0615 – 0715PTG DH8
SA1913 JNB0615 – 0715PTG DH4
SA1927 JNB0630 – 0730PTG CRJ
SA1215 JNB0645 – 0745PTG DH8
SA1933 JNB0700 – 0800PTG CRJ
SA1909 JNB0715 – 0815PTG DH4
SA1905 JNB0730 – 0830PTG DH8
SA1921 JNB0830 – 0930PTG CR7
SA1929 JNB0930 – 1030PTG CRJ
SA1935 JNB1000 – 1100PTG CRJ
SA1901 JNB1130 – 1250PTG DH8
SA1903 JNB1500 – 1620PTG DH8
SA1211 JNB1700 – 1800PTG DH8
SA1925 JNB1830 – 1930PTG CRJ

SA1206 PTG0630 – 0730JNB DH8
SA1220 PTG0630 – 0730JNB DH8
SA1202 PTG0645 – 0745JNB DH8
SA1920 PTG0700 – 0800JNB CR7
SA1924 PTG0715 – 0815JNB CRJ
SA1916 PTG0730 – 0830JNB CR7
SA1210 PTG0745 – 0845JNB DH8
SA1914 PTG0745 – 0845JNB DH4
SA1928 PTG0800 – 0900JNB CRJ
SA1216 PTG0815 – 0915JNB DH8
SA1934 PTG0830 – 0930JNB CRJ
SA1910 PTG0845 – 0945JNB DH4
SA1906 PTG0900 – 1000JNB DH8
SA1922 PTG1000 – 1100JNB CR7
SA1930 PTG1100 – 1200JNB CRJ
SA1936 PTG1130 – 1230JNB CRJ
SA1902 PTG1315 – 1430JNB DH8
SA1904 PTG1645 – 1800JNB DH8
SA1212 PTG1830 – 1930JNB DH8
SA1926 PTG2000 – 2100JNB CRJ
SA1908 PTG2100 – 2200JNB DH8
SA1208 PTG2130 – 2230JNB DH8
SA1214 PTG2130 – 2230JNB DH8
SA1218 PTG2200 – 2300JNB DH8
SA1204 PTG2200 – 2300JNB DH8

14JUN10
SA1201 JNB1240 – 1340PTG DH8
SA1203 JNB1545 – 1645PTG DH8
SA1205 JNB1845 – 1945PTG DH8

SA1202 PTG1400 – 1500JNB DH8
SA1204 PTG1715 – 1815JNB DH8
SA1206 PTG2015 – 2115JNB DH8

http://airlineroute.net/2010/02/17/sa-wc10-update2/

Kenya Airways World Cup 2010 Changes
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From 28MAR10, Kenya Airways is increasing Nairobi – Johannesburg service from 21 to 22 weekly. During World Cup in June/July 2010, it is expanding capacity on this route to meet the increasing demand.

Details as follows:

KQ760 NBO0715 – 1025JNB EQV D
KQ762 NBO0910 – 1220JNB EQV D
KQ768 NBO1200 – 1510JNB 738 7 28MAR10-
KQ764 NBO2040 – 2350JNB EQV D

KQ765 JNB0040 – 0545NBO EQV D
KQ761 JNB1115 – 1620NBO EQV D
KQ763 JNB1340 – 1845NBO EQV D
KQ769 JNB1600 – 2105NBO 738 7 28MAR10-

World Cup Period Planned Aircraft operation from 06JUN10 to 11JUL10:
KQ760/761
738 06JUN – 07JUN / 14JUN / 16JUN / 18JUN / 20JUN – 23JUN / 25JUN / 02JUL – 03JUL / 06JUL – 11JUL
767 08JUN / 11JUN – 13JUN / 17JUN / 19JUN / 26JUN – 01JUL / 04JUL – 05JUL / 12JUL – 13JUL
772 09JUN – JUN / 15JUN / 24JUN

KQ762/763
73W 06JUN
738 07JUL / 09JUL / 16JUL
767 07JUN / 16JUN – 17JUN / 21JUN / 27JUN / 02JUL / 05JUL – 06JUL / 08JUL / JUL – 11JUL / 15JUL / 17JUL
772 08JUN – 15JUN / 18JUN – 20JUN / 22JUN – 26JUN / 28JUN – 01JUL / 03JUL – 04JUL / 12JUL – 14JUL

KQ768/769 738 (Sunday Only)

KQ764/765 (KQ765 departs JNB the following day)
738 06JUN – 07JUN / 14JUN – 19JUN / 21JUN – 23JUN / 29JUN – 02JUL / 05JUL – 17JUL
767 20JUN / 24JUN / 26JUN – 28JUN / 04JUL / 11JUL – 13JUL
772 08JUN – 13JUN / 25JUN / 03JUL

First airline scheduling flights to South Africa especially just for the World Cup: Yeah!! Aerolinas Argentinas, Buenos Aires-JNB.

EXTENDED SCHEDULE INFORMATION 18FEB10-25JAN11 0001-2359
BUENOS AIRES-JOHANNESBURG
EFF DISC MTWTFSS BRD OFF DEP ARR FLIGHT EQU
08JUN10 13JUN10 .2....7 EZE JNB 1700#0645 AR1946 744
18JUN10 18JUN10 ....5.. EZE JNB 1700#0645 AR1946 744
26JUN10 26JUN10 .....6. EZE JNB 1700#0645 AR1946 744
08JUN10 13JUN10 .2....7 EZE JNB 1800#0745 AR1948 744
18JUN10 18JUN10 ....5.. EZE JNB 1800#0745 AR1948 744
23JUN10 23JUN10 ..3.... EZE JNB 1800#0745 AR1946 744
14JUN10 19JUN10 1....6. EZE JNB 2200#1145 AR1946 744
24JUN10 24JUN10 ...4... EZE JNB 2200#1145 AR1946 744
14JUN10 19JUN10 1....6. EZE JNB 2300#1245 AR1948 744
24JUN10 24JUN10 ...4... EZE JNB 2300#1245 AR1948 744
EXTENDED SCHEDULE INFORMATION 18FEB10-25JAN11 0001-2359
JOHANNESBURG-BUENOS AIRES
EFF DISC MTWTFSS BRD OFF DEP ARR FLIGHT EQU
09JUN10 14JUN10 1.3.... JNB EZE 0940 1530 AR1947 744
19JUN10 19JUN10 .....6. JNB EZE 0940 1530 AR1947 744
09JUN10 14JUN10 1.3.... JNB EZE 1030 1620 AR1949 744
19JUN10 19JUN10 .....6. JNB EZE 1030 1620 AR1949 744
24JUN10 27JUN10 ...4..7 JNB EZE 1030 1620 AR1947 744
15JUN10 20JUN10 .2....7 JNB EZE 1430 2020 AR1947 744
25JUN10 25JUN10 ....5.. JNB EZE 1430 2020 AR1947 744
15JUN10 20JUN10 .2....7 JNB EZE 1530 2120 AR1949 744
25JUN10 25JUN10 ....5.. JNB EZE 1530 2120 AR1949 744

^^ kewl...werent they also going to fly to Durbs and CT or was that another South American carrier that said that?

^^ That is some good news... but I guess this confirms that ACSA's promise to separate extra flights specifically for the World Cup between three gateways: Durban: East; Johannesburg: North; Cape Town: West is a bust!

werent they also going to fly to Durbs and CT or was that another South American carrier that said that?

No, they're sort of unexpected.
It is TAM from Brazil that said so, but if AR can add these flights then it should almost be a certain fact that TAM will have several more, and it's still likely for them to go to CPT and DUR. I'm not sure if Argentina is actually playing at CPT or DUR in the first rounds, but Brazil is playing at Durban, so then TAM will probably fly there for that match, while many Brazilians might be based in Cape Town as well.

Hopefully we'll see TAM in Durban before the massively popular Brazil-Portugal game.

^^ That is some good news... but I guess this confirms that ACSA's promise to separate extra flights specifically for the World Cup between three gateways: Durban: East; Johannesburg: North; Cape Town: West is a bust!

Ya they have gone quiet on that...

Ya they have gone quiet on that...

Here are too underutilized international airports, waiting to be used... With all the customer complaints erupting around ORTIA, isn't ACSA shooting themselves in the foot with complete Johannesburg overburden? After all, we do know most hotel rooms booked for the World Cup are in Cape Town (thus far that is), could this not create a CPT-JNB quagmire?

Here are too underutilized international airports, waiting to be used... With all the customer complaints erupting around ORTIA, isn't ACSA shooting themselves in the foot with complete Johannesburg overburden? After all, we do know most hotel rooms booked for the World Cup are in Cape Town (thus far that is), could this not create a CPT-JNB quagmire?

....especially considering that ORTIA want to put up a tent during the WC to process passengers!......eish, major FAIL :bash:
...Just spread the load to Durbs and CPT.....problem mostly solved!

I was under the impression the tent is just for the teams moving through the airport, and if it's a tent like they had at CPT, it's not that bad at all.
I think in the end many of this is the airlines own decision, where they figure best is the demand, in this case, Argentina playing games in that vicinity (or at least not in CPT or DUR), while the team is also based there...not sure if ACSA is in any position to ask/tell them to rather fly to CPT, while most of those pax then have to do CPT-JNB flight as well...move them through once-off.

^^ I just think someone is missing something. Most beds are in the Western Cape... meaning, many World Cup spectators will be based there... not discounting the huge number of beds KZN has... obviously, there are not more than 30% of spectators heading for Gauteng in total (for basing themselves - yes, they'll commute once they settle down in their hotel of choice). Which, leads me to believe there is an acute over-burdening of ORTIA for the World Cup.

Cape Town International Airport tests emergency and disaster readiness with a simulated event

MEDIA RELEASE
NO. 136/ 2010
25 FEBRUARY 2010


The City’s Disaster Risk Management Centre together with the Airports Company South Africa (ACSA) will be testing the Cape Town International Airport (CTIA) emergency and disaster readiness today.

Wilfred Solomons-Johannes from the City’s Disaster Risk Management Centre, said that the exercise which is held bi-annually, is a mandatory aerodrome licensing requirement by South African Aviation legislation as defined by the International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO).

“This is a full-scale exercise designed to thoroughly test emergency procedures and responses.
It includes all the participants that would be called upon in the event of a major aircraft incident at the airport”, he said.

Today's exercise, codenamed EXERCISE POINT, will simulate that an incoming Boeing 777 aircraft of the British Airways (BA) Airlines will crash upon landing at the Cape Town International Airport at around 10:00.

As part of the scenario, the aircraft- carrying 215 passengers and eight crew members - will catch fire after crash landing.

The airport’s fire and rescue simulator will be used; and members of the public, including visitors to the airport and motorists on the N2 may notice smoke issuing from the aircraft, including emergency vehicles that will respond onto the runway.

The exercise provides the various agencies the opportunity to test all elements of their emergency response plans including capabilities of emergency equipment, personnel, and communication systems.

“Key to the exercise is the opportunity to identify and pro-actively correct problems in airport emergency planning and to enhance the emergency preparedness and responses of all participating agencies,” Solomons-Johannes said.

"This exercise demonstrates the commitment by the City’s Disaster Risk Management Centre, airlines, government departments and other concerned parties in maintaining a high level of contingency preparedness and safety, which forms the backbone of our operations, for the airport and in addition with the advent of the prestigious 2010 FIFA World Cup South Africa™ event where Cape Town will be the Host City”, he added.

This will be an excellent photographic opportunity and all media are invited to attend.

Date: Thursday 25 February 2010

Time: 10:00

Venue: ACSA Joint Media Centre (Visitors Centre), Parkade 2, Cape Town International Airport

Visuals: Aircraft simulator; emergency response vehicles and personnel from multiple agencies.


END

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What will be different? Where are we with airport upgrades?

JOHANNESBURG - With 100 days to go before the 2010 FIFA World Cup, Airports Company South Africa (Acsa) says its operational plan is 90% complete. Acsa will have ten dedicated airports for the expected 32 countries and their travelling support base, with the "Golden Triangle" (Johannesburg, Cape Town and Durban) expected to have the largest share of passenger travel. So what still needs to be done?

OR Tambo International Airport (ORT), which will be the key entry point, has completed all major projects with greening aesthetics remaining. Its central terminal building cost R2.2bn creating enhanced capacity for an additional 28m passengers per annum. The multi-storey parkade cost R496m providing an additional 16 500 parking bays, both completed last year. The two remaining projects are the aircraft apron stands costing R154m providing additional capacity for 105 aircraft and the 2X 600m³ tanks costing R139m increasing storage capacity by 60m litres. The stands will be completed at the end of April and the tanks later this month.

Cape Town International Airport: The departures level is 80% complete with the upgraded roads, multi-storey parkade and central terminal building completed at the end of March. Its central terminal building cost R1.7bn improving capacity by 14m passengers per annum. The city's multi-storey parkade cost R394m with 8 000 parking bays and its aircraft apron stands significantly lower than ORT cost of R61.5m improving capacity by 32 stands. The mother city is SA's destination of choice for the international market and with its 68 000 capacity Green Point Stadium proving to be a firm favourite with FIFA's General-Secretary Jerome Valcke, who described it's rye grass pitch as the benchmark for all world cup stadia, hopefully the football being played on the pitch will be just as exciting for the fans.

Completing the last leg of the "Golden Triangle" is Durban's crowning jewel the King Shaka International Airport at La Mercy. The new airport, which is due for completion at the end of April, will boast a 7.5m passengers a year and a 3.7km runway, which will accommodate the latest new generation large aircraft, including the A380 Airbus and Boeing B747. This green field's project hasn't been without its detractors. In late 2006, several North Durban ratepayers' associations denounced the proposed King Shaka International Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA) objecting to the possible noise pollution and economic and environmental impact but a few years later it's expected to be operational on May 1.

The remaining pool of supporters travelling outside the "Golden Triangle" will be catered for by our smaller airports in Bloemfontein, Port Elizabeth, East London, Upington and Kimberley. Upgrade projects for these smaller airports haven't been as costly but they too have undergone a much needed make over. Since most of the additional traffic is temporary, Acsa has taken the view to build temporary terminal facilities on a cost neutral basis. The temporary terminals will be financed through advertising. Acsa has partnered with Siemens AG, whose experience and technical skills will prove invaluable. Siemans AG had a similar project back in 2004, when it carried out a temporary expansion of the Lisbon airport to ensure sufficient capacity during the European Cup soccer championship.

So weather it's through the "Golden Triangle" or the smaller airports South African's together with Acsa will be hoping that our incoming visitors arrive and depart safely.

Thanks to KL791 in the Brazilian forums here's flights that TAM has received approval for to operate to SA from Sao Paulo in 3 class A332

JJ 9386 07/jun/10 GRU 1845 CPT 0735 A332
JJ 9387 08/jun/10 CPT 1210 GRU 1640 A332

JJ 9384 08/jun/10 GRU 1845 JNB 0840 A332
JJ 9385 09/jun/10 JNB 1120 GRU 1700 A332

JJ 9386 09/jun/10 GRU 1845 CPT 0735 A332
JJ 9387 10/jun/10 CPT 1210 GRU 1640 A332

JJ 9380 10/jun/10 GRU 1630 DUR 0635 A332
JJ 9381 11/jun/10 DUR 0830 GRU 1420 A332

JJ 9388 10/jun/10 GRU 1835 DUR 0835 A332
JJ 9389 11/jun/10 DUR 1050 GRU 1635 A332

JJ 9386 11/jun/10 GRU 1845 CPT 0735 A332
JJ 9387 12/jun/10 CPT 1210 GRU 1640 A332

JJ 9384 12/jun/10 GRU 1845 JNB 0835 A332
JJ 9385 13/jun/10 JNB 1045 GRU 1615 A332

JJ 9382 13/jun/10 GRU 1630 CPT 0520 A332
JJ 9383 14/jun/10 CPT 0730 GRU 1200 A332

JJ 9386 13/jun/10 GRU 1845 CPT 0735 A332
JJ 9387 14/jun/10 CPT 1205 GRU 1640 A332

JJ 9384 14/jun/10 GRU 1845 JNB 0830 A332
JJ 9385 15/jun/10 JNB 1055 GRU 1640 A332

JJ 9388 15/jun/10 GRU 1835 DUR 0835 10:00 CPT 12:30 A332
JJ 9387 16/jun/10 CPT 1400 GRU 1830 A332

JJ 9386 16/jun/10 GRU 1845 CPT 0735 0845 JNB 11:10 A332
JJ 9385 17/jun/10 JNB 1225 GRU 1755 A332

JJ 9382 17/jun/10 GRU 1630 CPT 0520 A332
JJ 9383 18/jun/10 CPT 0730 GRU 1200 A332

JJ 9380 20/jun/10 GRU 1630 DUR 0650 0830 JNB 0950 A332
JJ 9381 21/jun/10 JNB 1120 GRU 1650 A332

JJ 9386 20/jun/10 GRU 1845 CPT 0735 0815 DUR 1055 A332
JJ 9389 21/jun/10 DUR 1230 GRU 1820 A332

JJ 9386 21/jun/10 GRU 1845 CPT 0735 CPT 0825 DUR 1055 A332
JJ 9389 22/jun/10 DUR 1230 GRU 1815 A332

JJ 9384 22/jun/10 GRU 1845 JNB 0840 JNB 1020 CPT 1240 A332
JJ 9387 23/jun/10 CPT 1410 GRU 1835 A332

JJ 9384 23/jun/10 GRU 1835 JNB 0825 A332
JJ 9385 24/jun/10 JNB 1140 GRU 1710 A332

JJ 9388 24/jun/10 GRU 1845 DUR 0850 DUR 1050 JNB 1210 A332
JJ 9385 25/jun/10 JNB 1340 GRU 1910 A332

JJ 9388 25/jun/10 GRU 1845 DUR 0850 A332
JJ 9389 26/jun/10 DUR 1050 GRU 1640 A332

JJ 9386 26/jun/10 GRU 1845 CPT 0735 A332
JJ 9387 27/jun/10 CPT 1210 GRU 1640 A332

JJ 9382 27/jun/10 GRU 1630 JNB 0620 A332
JJ 9383 28/jun/10 JNB 0815 GRU 1400 A332

JJ 9386 27/jun/10 GRU 1845 CPT 0735 A332
JJ 9387 28/jun/10 CPT 1210 GRU 1640 A332

JJ 9384 28/jun/10 GRU 1805 JNB 0755 A332
JJ 9385 29/jun/10 JNB 1055 GRU 1625 A332

JJ 9384 30/jun/10 GRU 1835 JNB 0825 JNB 0925 CPT 1210 A332
JJ 9387 01/jul/10 CPT 1340 GRU 1810 A332

JJ 9386 02/jul/10 GRU 1845 CPT 0735 A332
JJ 9387 03/jul/10 CPT 1220 GRU 1650 A332

JJ 9380 03/jul/10 GRU 1630 JNB 0620 A332
JJ 9381 04/jul/10 JNB 0830 GRU 1400 A332

JJ 9386 03/jul/10 GRU 1845 CPT 0735 A332
JJ 9387 04/jul/10 CPT 1210 GRU 1640 A332

JJ 9386 04/jul/10 GRU 1845 CPT 0735 A332
JJ 9387 05/jul/10 CPT 1210 GRU 1640 A332

JJ 9386 05/jul/10 GRU 1845 CPT 0735 JJ 330 CPT 0850 JNB 1045 A332
JJ 9385 06/jul/10 JNB 1230 GRU 1755 A332

JJ 9386 06/jul/10 GRU 1845 CPT 0735 A332
JJ 9387 07/jul/10 CPT 1210 GRU 1640 A332

JJ 9384 11/jul/10 GRU 1855 JNB 0845 A332
JJ 9385 12/jul/10 JNB 1210 GRU 1740 A332

JJ 9384 12/jul/10 GRU 1845 JNB 0830 A332
JJ 9385 13/jul/10 JNB 1120 GRU 1640 A332

JJ 9386 13/jul/10 GRU 1845 CPT 0735 A332
JJ 9387 14/jul/10 CPT 1210 GRU 1640 A332

^^ Great! Good to see all three cities getting in on the action. :banana:

Great indeed, thnks Greg.

I've asked the following questions in Algerian and Korean Aviation forum regarding flights to World Cup, and responses as follows:

Yes, Air Algérie has planned 10 flights (authorized quota) to South Africa for the World Cup. It would be very good if Air Algérie flying to South Africa. Algiers could become a transit point between SA and EU.

Will decide by April for charter flight only
but medias say its very unlikely.

So it seems we might see Air Algerie, although no flights has been loaded yet.
Korean Air thus seems unlikely, but will wait till April.

Air Madagascar is to use larger 767-300ER aircraft iso 737-300 on a few flights during the tournament, mostly Saturdays.

Good to see that other African carriers is also profiting from the World Cup with people using the airlines and transiting through other parts of Africa...evident in Kenya Airways, Ethiopian, Air Mauritius, Air Austral and now Air Madagascar all upgauging the capacity.
Hopefully others like Air Namibia, TAAG Angola, Zambezi Airlines, Air Zimbabwe, LAM Mocambique and Arik Air is also picking up some pax arriving either with them from other continents or other carries to their base ie: British Airways to Lusaka and then take Zambezi...or TAP Portugal to Maputo and connect with LAM...or TAAG taking Brazilian or Portuguese pax transiting in Luanda.

its all good seeing all these extra flights into JNB, but can JNB handle this amount of traffic without any major hiccups?

Ofcourse, JNB is built to handle way more pax than currently being processed. Overall the amount of extra international flights (movements) that's been added so far isn't that much, I'd say roughly at the moment might turn out to be 5 to 10 more flights a day. Equal amount of flights is being upgauged to larger aircraft.
On the domestic front, additional flights (mostly on match-days in other centres like BFN, MQP and PTG) have been added to up to 50 extra flights on the day by SAX and Airlink (example 13 and 14 June where about 20 to 30 extra flights loaded to both BFN and PTG)...which is smaller aircraft though and also majority of these flights is either between 04:00 and 08:00 and after 19:00...thus mostly out of peak periods, also extra flights that was added here and there by SAA, Mango and Kulula is between 23:00 and 04:00 to CPT and DUR.
Our Airports will be fine, as long as the staff keeps smiling!

and if they keep their hands in their pockets and not in the bags

anyone know much about the massive number of charter flights that will be coming? all i know is that the one ocean group that are basingo the ships in sa will be having about 30 international charter flights into durban from germany and the uk to route their passengers to the city. they will also have a few flying into cape town and will be using some domestically to get their guests to games around the country.

Looks like charter flights will rule the skies during the WC

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Few airlines add flights for World Cup
JULIUS BAUMANN
Published: 2010/03/11 06:27:24 AM

FEW international airlines are adding additional seat capacity or flights for the Soccer World Cup, meaning charter flights will be key in bringing foreign fans to SA.

Until now the largest increase in flights has been from US or South American carriers.

Delta Airlines is to add 17 extra flights over the tournament, providing 4700 extra seats. In addition to the six extra flights announced in January, Delta is now adding a further 11 services in July and August to respond to the demand for seats.

The flights will be operated using Boeing 777-200LR aircraft.

These flights are apart from Delta’s normal scheduled daily flights between Atlanta and Johannesburg.

SAA has seen a surge in demand for its flights to and from Washington and New York.

“We have noticed an increase in demand on our US routes but it has not necessitated the addition of flights. We will continue monitoring demand over the period in order to make decisions on increases,” said SAA spokeswoman Vimla Maistry.

According to Fifa’s latest sales figures, fans in the US have bought 123749 match tickets through public sales. Fans from Mexico have bought 21591 match tickets and there is likely to be demand from Honduras. Both countries have teams in the tournament.

“Many of the fans from (Central) America will travel through the southern US to get to SA, putting further pressure on Delta to add capacity,” said Allan Moore, CEO of the Board of Airline Representatives of SA.

There is enormous demand from South America, where there are five countries — Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Uruguay and Paraguay — taking part in the World Cup.

SAA is adding two additional flights a week between Johannesburg and Sao Paulo from June, bringing to 11 the number of weekly flights.

Moore pointed out that a large number of Latin American airlines, including AeroMexico, LAN Chile and TAM from Brazil, are putting on special charter flights during the World Cup.

Surprisingly, with 13 European countries taking part in the tournament, few airlines from the region are adding flights to their schedules, apart from Air France.

The airline recently introduced the 538-seat Airbus A380 on the Paris-Johannesburg route, which it will use for its daily flights. During the tournament, Air France will add an extra three flights a week using a Boeing 777.

The other big European carriers, Lufthansa and British Airways, will not be adding any additional capacity to their already extensive flights. However, travel group Thomas Cook has been given the rights to operate charter flights from London .

Emirates, the official World Cup airline, has not added any additional capacity.

“We have seen good demand over the World Cup but as yet there has been no need to add extra flights,” said Fouad Caunhye, Emirates regional manager in southern Africa.

Australian carriers have not added aircraft to their South African routes. Qantas will add a special flight from Melbourne to Johannesburg only on May 26, when Australian fans can join their team on their way to the World Cup.

“We will have a better sense of the true numbers of foreigners coming to SA in the next few weeks, but it is unlikely that we will see any surge in flights to SA,” said Moore.

baumannj@bdfm.co.za


http://www.businessday.co.za/articles/Content.aspx?id=95901

from global-travels.net:

Nelspruit - The number of domestic flights to the Kruger Mpumalanga International Airport in Nelspruit will be increased a month ahead of the 2010 FIFA World Cup kick-off in June.

The flights form part of a new deal signed between the Mpumalanga Tourism and Parks Agency (MTPA) and Comair Limited, which operates local and regional British Airways flights in South Africa.

"From May 4, British Airways will commence with six flights a week between Kruger Mpumalanga International Airport and OR Tambo International [in Johannesburg]," said Comair executive manager of sales and route development Stuart Cochrane.

He said Comair was very excited about the partnership with the MTPA because it created an opportunity to bring more international and local travellers to the region.

"Comair's increased capacity will allow travellers easy access to Mpumalanga while at the same time raising the profile of the province, which has so many beautiful experiences to offer," Cochrane said.

The short flight, in a Boeing 737-300, takes 40 minutes and will depart from OR Tambo at 10:40am, allowing the international inbound market to connect.

The return flight will depart from Kruger Mpumalanga at 12pm.

"This partnership will deliver much-needed competition and additional capacity on the route between Mpumalanga and Gauteng, and both business and leisure travellers are expected to benefit from the new scheduled service," said MTPA chief executive Charles Ndabeni.

British Airways and SA Airlink are the only carriers servicing the airport

Can't find flights loaded in systems though, can't quite make out from this article if it's just for a limited period around World Cup, or infact more permanent.

Special Qantas flight bringing Australian team to SA, from Melbourne, 26 May.

Melbourne/Johannesburg QF163 Flight duration: 13h 35
Qantas Airways

Departure
13:00 Wed 26 May Melbourne , VI (MEL), Australia , Tullamarine
terminal 2 Arrival
18:35 Wed 26 May Johannesburg (JNB), South Africa , O.R. Tambo International
terminal A Flight information:
e-ticket Meal is served on board Boeing 747-400

from airlineroute.net:

ArkeFly World Cup charter
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Dutch charter carrier ArkeFly during World Cup is operating several Amsterdam – Johannesburg service. As per 11MAR10 Sabre timetable display, planned operation as follows:

OR903 AMS0715 – 1830JNB 763 13JUN10
OR905 AMS0715 – 1830JNB 763 17JUN10
OR909 AMS0715 – 1830JNB 763 22JUN10

OR904 JNB0835 (1-stop) 2205AMS 763 13JUN10
OR906 JNB0825 (1-stop) 2155AMS 763 17JUN10
OR910 JNB1030 (1-stop) 2359AMS 763 22JUN10

Those return flights is probably the day after.

airlineroute.net:

KLM World Cup Capacity Increase
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As per 11MAR10 GDS timetable display, KLM on following dates during World Cup season is to operate Boeing 777-300ER aircraft on Amsterdam – Cape Town and Amsterdam – Johannesburg route.

Dates as follows:

Amsterdam – Cape Town
09JUN10, 10JUN10, 23JUN10, 24JUN10, 26JUN10, 04JUL10

Amsterdam – Johannesburg
08JUN10, 10JUN10, 15JUN10, 12JUL10, 13JUL10

At least slight capacity increase from KLM, although extra flights would have been nice...

from airlineroute.net

Lufthansa Special World Cup charter
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Lufthansa is operating a Special World Cup service on 06JUN10, carrying German Soccer team to Johannesburg. This flight will not be available to general public.

Currently the Star Alliance carrier plans to operate Airbus A340-600 aircraft, but it may ended up being the airlines’ First A380 commercial service. Schedule below:

LH2010 FRA2030 – 0710+1JNB 346 06JUN10

Let's hope it's the A380... :)

Confirmed!

Lufthansa First A380 Flight: Johannesburg 06JUN10
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Lufthansa has announced its First Airbus A380 flight is to be World Cup charter on Frankfurt – Johannesburg service, on 06JUN10.

Previously mentioned on 23MAR10, the special flight is operating as LH2010, but was tentatively scheduled to be operated by Airbus A340-600.

In the local newspaper here it is said today by George Airport manager that the French team will be flying directly to George Airport from France, and not through another airport...anybody maybe have some more info on this. I guess it's possible with most of their widebody aircraft except A380 and 773. I'd believe that a team like France and even Japan will have their own aircraft to fly around with, while Denmark might be using local carriers?
Japan should also be arriving in GRJ on 5 or 6 June.

^^ most teams will be using their own planes domestically and not commercial flights

Fuck, Quick the lucky bastard just told me he's going on a SAA test flight from JHB to KSIA tomorrow!!!
Apparently it's hush hush and for mainly JHB media - BUT the even bigger news is that it's a giant A340-600!!! the biggest plane yet to KSIA!!!
Wish I was him....

More from Air Austral

As per 07MAY10 GDS timetable display, Air Austral is adjusting planned capacity increase and operating aircraft during World Cup on St Denis de la Reunion – Johannesburg route.

Latest changes as follows:

10JUN10 – 24JUN10
UU371 RUN0750 – 1000JNB 772 7
UU341 RUN1120 – 1330JNB 772 4

UU372 JNB1150 – 1715RUN 772 7
UU342 JNB1520 – 2045RUN 772 4

27JUN10 – 15JUL10
UU371 RUN1025 – 1235JNB 77W 7
UU341 RUN1120 – 1330JNB 733 4

UU372 JNB1430 – 1955RUN 77W 7
UU342 JNB1450 – 2040RUN 733 4

12JUL10 Extra flights
UU3311 RUN1030 – 1240JNB 772
UU3312 JNB1430 – 1955RUN 772

http://airlineroute.net/2010/05/07/uu-wc10-update2/

Air Force One during the WC? http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=656525&cc=3888

Air Force One during the WC? http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=656525&cc=3888

this was in 2009.
things have changed since then..
dont bank on it.

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/4816250/

Some stuff we haven't covered here namely GOL flying the Paraguay team to CPT, leaving their 767 a Upington for 2 weeks and then flying back to South America via JNB.

Aeromexico are also mentioned although no schedules (that I could find) are around at this stage.

Iberworld and Air Pullmantur will provide charters for the Spanish supporters.

Some more WC Charters, all c/o http://airlineroute.net/

More AR flights and a few alterations to existing flights from Argentina:

As per 21MAY10 GDS timetable display, latest schedule to Aerolineas Argentinas’ planned World Cup charter as follows:

AR1954 EZE1800 – 0745+1JNB 744 08JUN10/11JUN10/16JUN10/23JUN10
AR1954 EZE2200 – 1145+1JNB 744 09JUN10
AR1952 EZE2305 – 1250+1JNB 744 09JUN10
AR1952 EZE1700 – 0645+1JNB 744 11JUN10/16JUN10/23JUN10
AR1946 EZE2200 – 1145+1JNB 744 14JUN10
AR1946 EZE1700 – 0645+1JNB 744 18JUN10/29JUN10/03JUL10/07JUL10
AR1954 EZE1740 – 0725+1JNB 744 21JUN10
AR1952 EZE2200 – 1145+1JNB 744 24JUN10
AR1948 EZE1800 – 0745+1JNB 744 26JUN10
AR1954 EZE1805 – 0750+1JNB 744 11JUL10
AR1954 EZE1535 – 0520+1JNB 744 12JUL10

AR1955 JNB0915 – 1505EZE 744 09JUN10
AR1955 JNB1430 – 2020EZE 744 10JUN10
AR1953 JNB1600 – 2150EZE 744 10JUN10
AR1953 JNB0110 – 0700EZE 744 13JUN10/18JUN10
AR1955 JNB0210 – 0800EZE 744 13JUN10/18JUN10
AR1947 JNB1430 – 2020EZE 744 15JUN10
AR1947 JNB0935 – 1525EZE 744 19JUN10
AR1955 JNB0810 – 1400EZE 744 23JUN10
AR1953 JNB1025 – 1615EZE 744 24JUN10
AR1955 JNB1130 – 1720EZE 744 24JUN10
AR1953 JNB1430 – 2020EZE 744 25JUN10
AR1947 JNB0925 – 1515EZE 744 30JUN10/08JUL10
AR1947 JNB0950 – 1540EZE 744 04JUL10
AR1955 JNB1220 – 1810EZE 744 12JUL10
AR1955 JNB0940 – 1530EZE 744 13JUL10

Airlink operating a busy service into and out of Polokwane:
SA Airlink/South African Airways is operating following extra flights during World Cup. All schedules are as of 21MAY10 per GDS timetable display, and is subject to change:

Johannesburg – Pietersburg
SA8963 JNB1900 – 2000PTG 142 12JUN10
SA8903 JNB0615 – 0715PTG 142 13JUN10
SA8901 JNB0810 – 0910PTG 142 13JUN10/22JUN10/23JUN10/25JUN10
SA8911 JNB1710 – 1810PTG 142 13JUN10
SA8915 JNB1805 – 1855PTG ERJ 13JUN10
SA8971 JNB1935 – 2035PTG 142 16JUN10/17JUN10/21JUN10/25JUN10
SA8991 JNB0400 – 0500PTG 142 17JUN10
SA8993 JNB0430 – 0530PTG 142 17JUN10/18JUN10
SA8967 JNB0500 – 0600PTG AR8 17JUN10/21JUN10
SA8953 JNB0200 – 0300PTG AR8 18JUN10/23JUN10
SA8921 JNB0625 – 0725PTG AR8 17JUN10/22JUN10/24JUN10
SA8955 JNB1140 – 1240PTG 142 24JUN10
SA8957 JNB1930 – 2030PTG AR8 24JUN10
SA8961 JNB2000 – 2100PTG AR8 24JUN10

SA8962 PTG2030 – 2135JNB 142 12JUN10/24JUN10
SA8904 PTG0745 – 0850JNB 142 13JUN10
SA8902 PTG0940 – 1045JNB 142 13JUN10/17JUN10/22JUN10/24JUN10/25JUN10
SA8912 PTG1845 – 1950JNB 142 13JUN10
SA8916 PTG1935 – 2030JNB 142 13JUN10
SA8970 PTG2135 – 2240JNB 142 16JUN10/21JUN10/25JUN10
SA8990 PTG0545 – 0650JNB 142 17JUN10/23JUN10
SA8992 PTG0615 – 0720JNB 142 17JUN10/18JUN10/23JUN10
SA8920 PTG0755 – 0900JNB AR8 17JUN10/24JUN10
SA8966 PTG0650 – 0755JNB AR8 17JUN10/21JUN10
SA8956 PTG0130 – 0235JNB 142 18JUN10/23JUN10
SA8950 PTG0200 – 0305JNB 142 18JUN10/23JUN10
SA8954 PTG0330 – 0435JNB AR8 18JUN10/23JUN10
SA8914 PTG2000 – 2105JNB 142 24JUN10
SA8958 PTG2100 – 2205JNB AR8 24JUN10

George – Pietersburg
SA8708 GRJ0650 – 0900PTG AR8 16JUN10
SA8709 PTG0330 – 0540GRJ AR8 18JUN10

Johannesburg – Nelspruit
SA8931 JNB1515 – 1605MQP 142 15JUN10/19JUN10
SA8935 JNB0940 – 1030MQP 142 16JUN10
SA8937 JNB0830 – 0920MQP 142 20JUN10/27JUN10
SA8943 JNB1925 – 2010MQP AR8 20JUN10
SA8947 JNB2015 – 2100MQP AR8 20JUN10/27JUN10
SA8933 JNB0600 – 0650MQP 142 21JUN10
SA8931 JNB1515 – 1600MQP ERJ 22JUN10/26JUN10
SA8927 JNB1700 – 1745MQP 142 23JUN10
SA8977 JNB1945 – 2030MQP AR8 25JUN10

SA8930 MQP1630 – 1725JNB EQV 15JUN10/18JUN10/25JUN10/26JUN10
SA8924 MQP1800 – 1855JNB 142 16JUN10
SA8928 MQP1815 – 1905JNB AR8 16JUN10
SA8938 MQP0940 – 1035JNB 142 20JUN10
SA8940 MQP2115 – 2210JNB 142 20JUN10/27JUN10
SA8944 MQP2145 – 2235JNB AR8 20JUN10
SA8948 MQP2145 – 2235JNB AR8 20JUN10/27JUN10
SA8972 MQP0130 – 0225JNB AR8 24JUN10
SA8974 MQP0200 – 0255JNB AR8 24JUN10
SA8978 MQP2100 – 2150JNB AR8 25JUN10
SA8980 MQP2000 – 2055JNB 142 25JUN10
SA8982 MQP0935 – 1030JNB 142 26JUN10

Comair bits and pieces:
Comair by British Airways is operating following extra services during World Cup period. Schedules below are as of 21MAY10 GDS timetable display and is subject to change:

Johannesburg – Cape Town
BA6327 JNB2330 – 0140+1CPT 737 11JUN10/18JUN10/29JUN10/06JUL10
BA6321 JNB0240 – 0450CPT 734 14JUN10/16JUN10/21JUN10/22JUN10/24JUN10/26JUN10/28JUN10/29JUN10/03JUL10/04JUL10/12JUL10
BA6323 JNB2055 – 2305CPT 733 14JUN10
BA6325 JNB2100 – 2310CPT 734 14JUN10
BA6331 JNB0245 – 0455CPT 734 16JUN10/21JUN10/22JUN10/26JUN10/28JUN10/29JUN10/03JUL10/12JUL10
BA6335 JNB0310 – 0520CPT 733 16JUN10/21JUN10/22JUN10/26JUN10/28JUN10/29JUN10/03JUL10/04JUL10/12JUL10
BA6339 JNB0340 – 0550CPT 733 16JUN10/29JUN10
BA6333 JNB2150 – 2359CPT 733 18JUN10/23JUN10/24JUN10/29JUN10/06JUL10
BA6341 JNB2320 – 0130+1CPT 734 18JUN10/29JUN10
BA6343 JNB0530 – 0740CPT 734 19JUN10
BA6337 JNB0245 – 0455CPT 734 26JUN10
BA6329 JNB2115 – 2325CPT 733 06JUL10

BA6328 CPT0250 – 0450JNB 737 12JUN10/19JUN10/25JUN10/30JUN10/07JUL10
BA6322 CPT2340 – 0140+1JNB 734 13JUN10/19JUN10/20JUN10/23JUN10/25JUN10/27JUN10/28JUN10/11JUL10
BA6330 CPT0225 – 0425JNB 733 15JUN10/19JUN10/24JUN10/30JUN10/07JUL10
BA6326 CPT0240 – 0440JNB 734 15JUN10/19JUN10/30JUN10/07JUL10
BA6334 CPT2150 – 2350JNB 733 15JUN10/21JUN10/28JUN10/03JUL10/11JUL10
BA6332 CPT0001 – 0200JNB 734 16JUN10/21JUN10/26JUN10/28JUN10/29JUN10/03JUL10/04JUL10/12JUL10
BA6336 CPT0010 – 0210JNB 733 16JUN10/21JUN10/22JUN10/28JUN10/29JUN10/03JUL10
BA6344 CPT2045 – 2245JNB 733 21JUN10
BA6338 CPT0530 – 0730JNB 734 26JUN10/30JUN10

Johannesburg – Durban
BA6351 JNB2155 – 2305DUR 733 11JUN10
BA6353 JNB2235 – 2345DUR 733 11JUN10/23JUN10/29JUN10/07JUL10
BA6355 JNB0035 – 0145DUR 733 14JUN10/23JUN10/08JUL10
BA6357 JNB0245 – 0355DUR 733 16JUN10/24JUN10/29JUN10/03JUL10/04JUL10/12JUL10
BA6359 JNB0340 – 0450DUR 737 16JUN10/21JUN10/22JUN10/24JUN10/29JUN10
BA6363 JNB2030 – 2140DUR 733 16JUN10
BA6361 JNB2055 – 2205DUR 733 16JUN10
BA6365 JNB1730 – 1840DUR 734 19JUN10
BA6369 JNB0105 – 0215DUR 733 23JUN10/08JUL10

BA6350 DUR1955 – 2105JNB 733 11JUN10/14JUN10
BA6352 DUR0020 – 0130JNB 733 12JUN10/24JUN10/30JUN10
BA6354 DUR0220 – 0330JNB 733 14JUN10/23JUN10/08JUL10
BA6358 DUR0020 – 0130JNB 733 16JUN10/24JUN10/29JUN10/03JUL10/12JUL10
BA6360 DUR0115 – 0225JNB 733 16JUN10/21JUN10/22JUN10
BA6364 DUR2220 – 2330JNB 733 16JUN10
BA6362 DUR2340 – 0050+1JNB 733 16JUN10/28JUN10
BA6366 DUR0500 – 0610JNB 733 19JUN10/24JUN10/04JUL10
BA6370 DUR0250 – 0400JNB 733 23JUN10/08JUL10
BA6372 DUR0320 – 0430JNB 733 08JUL10

Johannesburg – Port Elizabeth
BA6375 JNB0400 – 0540PLZ 733 16JUN10
BA6389 JNB0630 – 0810PLZ 733 19JUN10
BA6377 JNB1950 – 2130PLZ 733 23JUN10
BA6373 JNB2320 – 0100+1PLZ 733 10JUL10

BA6376 PLZ2300 – 0040+1JNB 733 15JUN10
BA6388 PLZ2010 – 2150JNB 733 18JUN10
BA6378 PLZ2100 – 2240JNB 23JUN10
BA6374 PLZ0135 – 0315JNB 733 11JUL10

Cape Town – Durban
BA6380 CPT0230 – 0425DUR 733 15JUN10/19JUN10/25JUN10/30JUN10
BA6382 CPT0050 – 0245DUR 733 17JUN10/26JUN10
BA6384 CPT2055 – 2250DUR 733 21JUN10
BA6384 CPT2055 – 2250DUR 733 07JUL10
BA6387 CPT0050 – 0245DUR 733 08JUL10

BA6381 DUR2200 – 0010+1CPT 733 16JUN10/24JUN10/25JUN10/29JUN10
BA6383 DUR2000 – 2210CPT 734 19JUN10
BA6385 DUR2325 – 0135+1CPT 733 21JUN10
BA6379 DUR0220 – 0430CPT 733 08JUL10
BA6386 DUR0320 – 0530CPT 733 08JUL10

Lets hope this is the beginning of the last minute charters!

JAL will fly the Japanese team to South Africa,

06-07JUN NRT-GVA-CPT

Operated by B747-400

During June, 4 additional JL B747-400 flights will fly to JNB and DUR carrying passengers, which make an intermediate stop at BKK enroute from/to Japan.

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/4816250/

Some good spotting for the DUR peeps!

JAL in Durbs? Cool man

http://ccl.cl/acuo

Lan Chile's flights to South Africa. JNB, CPT and MQP (Kruger Mpumalanga) are listed, all operated by a B763.

So much for being the official carrier of the tournament...

Emirates is operating 1 extra round trip flight on Dubai – Cape Town (12JUL10) and Dubai – Johannesburg (13JUL10) for the end of World Cup, operated by Boeing 777-300ER.

Schedules below:

EK3772 DXB0950 – 1725CPT 77W 12JUL10
EK3773 CPT1925 – 0640+1DXB 77W 12JUL10

EK3767 DXB0920 – 1530JNB 77W 13JUL10
EK3768 JNB1730 – 0330+1DXB 77W 13JUL10

Was looking around the net and saw that a French tour operator has chartered an A340-300 from Air Tahiti Nui for charter WC flights. I could find any schedules though. Also read that some 2000 Algerian fans and will be making the trip down to South Africa which is good to hear.

Lufthansa and Air France confirmed that they will keep their A380's flying to JNB in regular flights. Waiting confirmation on Qantas.

I see all the local airlines having "sales" lots of tickets unbought

I see all the local airlines having "sales" lots of tickets unbought

Yep, surprised me when Kulula kept sending me email about specials during the WC..

Yep, surprised me when Kulula kept sending me email about specials during the WC..

But they have also added significant capacity on specific routes on specific days. They will have a lot of empty aircraft at certain times so they are flogging those seats.

another success story...the bulk numbers have now moved on ...so all downhill to the end now.

Chris Esterhuyse
Student Join Date: Apr 2007
Age: 49
Posts: 14

Re: World Cup Traffic (Supposedly) lands at Old Durban Airport (FADN)

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And the chaos continues at Virginia today, with aircraft sitting at the holding point idling for up to 30min. Passengers lying on the grass outside the terminal building waiting and pilots standing around all with cellphones glued to their ears!!

BAD SHOW ACSA/ATNS!

A city with three airports cannot handle one big sporting event's traffic. How ridiculous and very sad!! :ohno:

I think they should impound all the VVIP planes that refused to move

I think they should impound all the VVIP planes that refused to move

and arrest the MoFo's,:bash::bash::bash::bash:

I just assumed it was the plan from the start to have teams and VIP's using DIA.

.... and kick whoever at ACSA knew this was the plans for the day and could not do simple calculations between plains and parking bays in the nuts...

Just as we have become used to they do just what they want...
http://www.sport24.co.za/Soccer/WorldCup/TournamentNews/A-FIFA-jet-blocked-planes-20100709

Johannesburg - Reports have emerged that a private FIFA jet was among those which refused to move for domestic flights at a Durban airport.

Just as we have become used to they do just what they want...
http://www.sport24.co.za/Soccer/WorldCup/TournamentNews/A-FIFA-jet-blocked-planes-20100709

Johannesburg - Reports have emerged that a private FIFA jet was among those which refused to move for domestic flights at a Durban airport.

and where were the SWAT TEAM...probably assisting a president or two organise a cappuchino in the terminal.