View Full Version : The BIG HUGE Copenhagen Ørestad Update Thread
tournesol March 16th, 2006, 10:54 AM It is a new design for the Scanport project. I remember the old one was design by KHR Architects (That's the project Blue Viking mentions from the big sign out there), this new one is by Schmidt, Hammer & Lassen.
It's great that this spot is back in business. It's too good a spot to stay unused. 48 meters isn't that empresive though, but I guess it has to do with the airport (again).
FREKI March 16th, 2006, 07:42 PM ^ I'm seriusly starting to hate that airport!
cphdude March 16th, 2006, 08:51 PM yeah, well...It has been and will be good to us. Have patience my friend. Someday we will have to reach Refshaleøen and even the NIMBY's from fejlplacered højhuse have said thay have no problem with tall buildings out there...so...heres hoping...
LoveCPH March 18th, 2006, 09:09 PM A lot happens while i'm gone.
Well great news, sounds very exciting :)
cphdude March 22nd, 2006, 06:31 PM Sjælsø Gruppen said today that they have bought a lot next to field and ferring, to be the future home of World Trade Center Copenhagen. The price for the lot is around 58 million euros. The lot has been bought in co-opperation with the company SG Nord Holding, owned by icelandic Samson/Straumur and the Brd. Rønje Holding.
The company has been given permission to build 129.000 m2, but the project will not start building untill at least 10.000 m2 is rented out.
The company says they expect that this will happen in 6 months, but that it may take longer.
Blue Viking March 22nd, 2006, 07:37 PM There's a new render and a map of the area at Sjælsø-gruppen's website:
http://hugin.info/86917/R/1040697/169344.pdf
I am not too impressed. It looks like a mixture of Brøndby Strand and Høje Gladsaxe (i.e. commieblocks) - not like a top quality new office building. The earlier renderings were nicer although not great. Hopefully NCC and Libeskind will do a lot better.
Also, weren't there supposed to be three tall buildings?
cphdude March 22nd, 2006, 07:57 PM ^^It was suposed to be 3 towers, but i guess that ment that that would require special permission, and they wanted to start now, so they dropped that idea.
awyway, its kinda hard to judge by that one pic, but it does look a bit odd...Well have to wait and see i guess..
tournesol March 22nd, 2006, 09:21 PM Not very exiting architecture, for sure. Very disappointing... :bash:
But I guess it's now official that CPH will get it's WTC.
Actually the area thay have bougt does have permission to build 3 towers, so I hope this is just a render of the first stage, and not that they have dropped the third tower!!!
Hviid March 23rd, 2006, 04:48 AM Maybe its just the way it looks in the photo (with the lights all lit up in the building, the sunset in the backround, etc) but it actually looks kinda nice... Of course, without a doubt, it would look a lot nicer with an extra tower, and with extra floors :tongue3: , but still, it doesnt look too bad IMO
Blue Viking March 23rd, 2006, 01:28 PM Maybe its just the way it looks in the photo (with the lights all lit up in the building, the sunset in the backround, etc) but it actually looks kinda nice... Of course, without a doubt, it would look a lot nicer with an extra tower, and with extra floors :tongue3: , but still, it doesnt look too bad IMO
Don't get me wrong - some commieblocks can be ok. I actually think Brøndby Strand is quite nice. But this is just too boring in a place like Ørestaden. And wouldn't you agree, that it looks more like appartments than an office building?
Of course, we can all agree they should build much, MUCH taller, and that they should build three towers and not only two. But if they put more glass on the buildings, and make the base of the towers less rectangular, then they would improve a lot on the design.
I am sorry to say this, but the more I look at the rendering the more disappointed I am.
Rosinmanden March 23rd, 2006, 07:08 PM It doesn't look too bad, imo. I like how the balconys (or what ever you wanna call them) appear at random places.
The base of the "tower" could use some work, though
Seeing as though this is the Ørestad thread, i have a question:
Do anyone know what the house between forbrugerstyrelsen HQ and Bikuben kollegiet is. It looks like a family lives there. Did they not want to sell, and so the City just decided to build around them, or what is it about.
It just seems strange to me
Hviid March 24th, 2006, 01:57 AM And wouldn't you agree, that it looks more like appartments than an office building?
In terms of design it looks very much like the Ferring tower/highrise.. so I disagree.
Of course, we can all agree they should build much, MUCH taller, and that they should build three towers and not only two. But if they put more glass on the buildings, and make the base of the towers less rectangular, then they would improve a lot on the design.
No doubt about that!
I am sorry to say this, but the more I look at the rendering the more disappointed I am.
Like i said in the other post, maybe its just the "photo" itself that i'm attracted to, but there's something about what i look at that I like. Maybe if the rendering/building was shown from a different angle and shown during the daytime instead of the evening/night time, i would view it the same way as you.
It could defidentally use an improvement (more glass, more "curves", taller, etc), but even if this what the final design is, i don't think i'd mind that much... even in a place like Ørestad.
Trigga March 24th, 2006, 04:19 PM Hi! Here's what Klaus Bondam said as soon as today:
Højhuse??
Hej Klaus!
Jeg må sige at jeg er meget positiv over din holdning til at der skal bygges højere i København. Jeg synes København har mange arkitektoniske kvaliteter som den by den er nu, men alligevel mangler der nogle markante moderne bygninger, som afspejler at vi faktisk også har eksisteret i det 20ende og 21ende århundrede ;-)
Ganske rigtigt har vi moderne bygninger så som den sorte diamand og lignende som er af ganske fornuftigt arkitektonisk værdi, men jeg synes at vi skal kigge over Øresund og se hvad Malmø er kommet op med. Turning Torso er jo helt unik og elegant, og at København har haft muligheden for at have den bygning stående på denne side, er noget jeg daglig ærger mig over.
Mit spørgsmål er nu: I Ørestaden har vi en højdegrænse på Ca. 80 meter. Ville denne kunne blive ændret opad (150-200 meter?) hvis Libeskin kommer op med noget unikt, eller er der meget stramme krav på det punkt?
Personligt er jeg meget glad for København på de fleste punkter, men jeg synes en by skal afspejle de tider den gennemlever og derfor ville det være optimalt hvis vi fik sprunget højhus-skrækkens rammer og fik skabt nogle nye områder der afspejler "de nye tider"
Tak for en god hjemmeside, og nogle gode tv-programmer (politisk, såvel som humoristisk)
Vh
Jonathan
Klaus Bondam, Idag Kl. 14:46
Højhuse i København
Kære Jonathan
Jeg er grundlæggende meget enig med dig i, at København skal have lov til at udvikle sig ikke bare i højden, men at vi skal være meget bedre til at tænke nyt og kreativt, når vi bygger nyt. Men jeg synes også at vi begynder at komme helt godt med.
I stedet for at tage stilling til de konkrete byggeønsker fra sag til sag, er min tanke at se på byen som helhed: Hvor vil høje huse være et tilskud til byens profil og identitet, og hvor vil det ødelægge byens særpræg og kvaliteter. Arbejdet skal munde ud i retningslinier for højhusbyggeri som grundlag for planlægningen og som holdepunkter for investorer, og der skal fastlægges en særlig proces for udvikling af projekter, som inddrager offentligheden i beslutningsprocessen.
Af aktuelle både planlagte og mulige højhusprojekter, kan jeg nævne Ørestad, syd og nord for Øresundsforbindelsen, hvor der kan opføres i alt 9 højhuse, inklusive det allerede eksisterende Ferrings højhus, til markering af knudepunktet ved Ørestad City, - i Sydhavnen på Islands Bryggesiden, hvor der er forslag om en bebyggelse med rækkehuse iblandet forskellige typer højhuse som ’punktnedslag’. Overfor på den anden side af havneløbet på teglværkshavnens mole, opføres der et enkeltstående højhus, - og sidst ved det nye rigsarkivs front mod Bernstorffsgade, kan der opføres 3 højhuse.
Jeg håber, at det besvarer dine spørgsmål ellers er du velkommen til at skrive igen.
God weekend
Klaus Bondam
EDK_DK March 29th, 2006, 11:48 AM It seems to become one heck of a construction site in 2006 for Ørestad city.
I made a map to show how many U/C - Correct me if wrong..
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2057/2306/1600/orestad_2006.jpg
Looking forward to your next photo trip in Ørestaden.
tournesol March 29th, 2006, 12:20 PM ^^ I think the map is absolutely correct. Great work.
And, yes is will be one motherf****** big construction site site in just a few month... :D
... and I'll be there to 'shoot' it... :)
Blue Viking March 30th, 2006, 09:59 PM Apparently those crazy Icelanders are going to build a - wellness- hotel in Ørestad South:
http://www.orestad.dk/nyhedsbrev_orestad?site=24413
The plan is to make use of all the volcanic activity beneath Amager to make a copy of Iceland's Blue Lagoon :drool: If I know those Icelanders - and I don't! - it's gonna be big, crazy and make a huge loss :)
FREKI March 31st, 2006, 08:06 AM The plan is to make use of all the volcanic activity beneath Amager to make a copy of Iceland's Blue Lagoon :drool: If I know those Icelanders - and I don't! - it's gonna be big, crazy and make a huge loss :) Volcanic activity :runaway:
I'm pretty sure you have to dig for quite some time and kilometers to find any of that!
Wouldn't it be cheaper to just heat it with electricity?
But hey, nomatter what, a new building is always good news :)
Blue Viking March 31st, 2006, 10:13 AM Wouldn't it be cheaper to just heat it with electricity?
Maybe. I'm not an expert, but it would probably still be expensive to heat a whole lagoon with electricity :nuts: Instead of wasting all that nice electricity on heating a stupid lagoon, they should use it on levitating some Maglevs! Hopefully we can get some Icelanders to invest in a Danish Maglev-net soon.
tournesol May 5th, 2006, 09:58 AM The sun is shinning, so it's time for a photo tour of the massive construction site of Ørestad City! :)
Here we go...
Approching Ørestad City, with its crane clustered skyline:
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/4322/orestadcitymaj2006x018li.jpg
http://img281.imageshack.us/img281/6701/orestadcitymaj2006x029kh.jpg
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/2729/orestadcitymaj2006x038lt.jpg
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/9876/orestadcitymaj2006x040wt.jpg
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/3577/orestadcitymaj2006x059ab.jpg
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8260/orestadcitymaj2006x065xb.jpg
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/6277/orestadcitymaj2006x070el.jpg
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5131/orestadcitymaj2006x084qt.jpg
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/9199/orestadcitymaj2006x093lc.jpg
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/2218/orestadcitymaj2006x101jw.jpg
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/9293/orestadcitymaj2006x110gn.jpg
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/9732/orestadcitymaj2006x127ji.jpg
This second KLP office building ...
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7042/klp2816pw.jpg
... is now starting construction on this site:
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/8541/orestadcitymaj2006x138jh.jpg
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6738/orestadcitymaj2006x144zd.jpg
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/3456/orestadcitymaj2006x150kd.jpg
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/4348/orestadcitymaj2006x167th.jpg
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/2195/orestadcitymaj2006x171cl.jpg
Bellahus next to Bella Center Metro station:
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/5267/orestadcitymaj2006x187tj.jpg
A final look a the cranes from "the bush"...
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/5890/orestadcitymaj2006x193sa.jpg
... and a view towards Ørestad North and the rising concert hall
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6861/orestadnordmaj2006x208jy.jpg
Soon some of the 12 floor residentials will be at full height and more projects will be above ground, so this will definitely not be the last photo tour this spring... :D
NorthStar77 May 5th, 2006, 10:32 AM Holy cow, that is massive alright!
EDK_DK May 5th, 2006, 10:32 AM Thanks tournesol...
I have been waiting for this update. It's hard to recognize the place though !. :eek:
I can see from one of the pictures that they are taking air-photos. (yellow van) So perhaps orestad.dk will be updated soon as well.
mlm May 5th, 2006, 11:10 AM Gracias tournesol, always appriciate your Ørestad updates. There's always so much new to see. :)
Signalhuset has surely improved since your last phototour. I still don't think it's a masterpiece, but atleast it seems to be "acceptable" now.
Hviid May 5th, 2006, 07:50 PM Gotta love that crane-filled skyline!
Thanks again for the update Tournesol! :cheers2:
tournesol May 29th, 2006, 11:24 AM Some small project news...
Unfortunately the project formerly known as "Porten til Ørestad"( The Ørestad Gate), have been changed from its
original 14 floors to 9 floors. At the same time it has been renamed "OnHouse".
The reason for the change in height is probably that the plan for the area doesn't allow a 14 floor building, and even though they might have had a change of getting it approved the developers probely wanted to go ahead now, instead og waiting probably atleast half a year for a public hearing witch might not even turn out their way.
Here's the current project:
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/1086/onhouse12818vm.jpg
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/4945/onhouse22817vp.jpg
At C. F. Møllers Alle in Ørestad City Henning Larsen Architects have designed a combined parking and residential project. The first 3 floors will be parking (not only for this building, but for the surrounding buildings too) and on top of that there will be 7 residential floors.
The project has been named "Black Wing"
The only rendering so far:
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/332/projectimage532214432720067by.gif
FREKI May 29th, 2006, 12:04 PM I don't get this... they want small buildings to keep the city bright, yet they continue to construct big black boxes... wtf!
The renderings looks okay, but as so many others it'll look ancient and dirty 3 weeks after completion :(
Have we learned nothing form the 60's and 70's? :gaah:
I want to see some full building glass cladding soon! That's a damn order!
BTW nice pics and work Tournesol :)
TORONTOCOPENHAGEN May 29th, 2006, 07:42 PM Nice pics tournesol.
I really like the Black Wing.
Hviid May 29th, 2006, 07:57 PM I don't get this... they want small buildings to keep the city bright, yet they continue to construct big black boxes... wtf!
The renderings looks okay, but as so many others it'll look ancient and dirty 3 weeks after completion :(
Have we learned nothing form the 60's and 70's? :gaah:
I want to see some full building glass cladding soon! That's a damn order!
BTW nice pics and work Tournesol :)
I'm with ya 100%
But keep your head up... we're bound to see something outstanding soon... one day... one day... :)
FREKI May 29th, 2006, 09:53 PM I'm with ya 100%
But keep your head up... we're bound to see something outstanding soon... one day... one day... :) Yeah, when Paris Hilton becomes a MENSA member :sleepy:
All I want is "Prismet" ( building in Århus ) style buildings, but 150-300m tall they don't have to be in the Downtown area, but what about that ridicules luxury camp ground or the golfcourse spot, clearly that's not needed in the area anyway! :gaah:
KristofferM May 30th, 2006, 04:36 AM That replacement building for "Porten" looks like everything that is wrong with the building trend in our city at the moment. The former project weren't too good, even if it rose a bit from ground level, but now everything gets worse. What is the nature of this desire to infest good building lots with smurfism and architectural misfortunes? Something sinister must be afoot!
With regards,
kristoffer Mogensen
cphdude June 20th, 2006, 10:05 PM As some of you may have heard in the news, Liebeskind presented his plan for ørestaden that included car free streets and 2 tall building, that looked like the standard 20 stories...
more in the news on tv2 at 23.15
mlm June 20th, 2006, 10:58 PM Yes I saw the short clip too. The 2 buildings looked a bit like mini versions of that new residential tower he has designed for Warsaw.
Odd that no papers has written anything about it yet...
Edit: I see DR has a bit about it here (http://www.dr.dk/Regioner/Kbh/Nyheder/Andet/2006/06/20/172300.htm) now.
cphdude June 20th, 2006, 11:05 PM Yes I saw the short clip too. The 2 buildings looked a bit like mini versions of that new residential tower he has designed for Warsaw.
Odd that no papers has written anything about it yet...
yeah, I know. I have been klicking lake mad to find anything, but I guess thay all went home to see the sweden game..
I couldnt really tell what they looked like, and I dont know the once he did in Warsaw....But they didnt look to tall...I hope they make each floor just a little smaller and squice in 30 floors on 100 meters...That would be sweet, and since NCC said they had a timeline of 5 years (if I heard correctly) that would give them plenty of time to try for a new local plan, but I guess they are not going for that....
mlm June 20th, 2006, 11:42 PM I grabbed my camera and took a few shots (nice quality I know:D):
http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/skyscrapercity/orestad01.jpg
http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/skyscrapercity/orestad02.jpg
http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/skyscrapercity/orestad03.jpg
http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/skyscrapercity/orestad04.jpg
I think the "old" fields hotel are a part of this new plan. Seems like NCC soon will have an operator ready. As I understand it there will be a total of 3 towers in the plan (all ~80m). This is still "only" a masterplan though, so things can still change.
Blue Viking June 21st, 2006, 12:04 AM Wow, thanx mlm! I've really been looking forward to seeing this. I like the organic forms which have been lacking in Ørestad. Nice also to see a residential tall building in Ørestad.
cphdude June 21st, 2006, 12:09 AM I agree, this looks pretty good. Diffenetly a change to the big box concept. And the taller building look a bit taller then I had first seen them. Depending how you count them, some of them looks like they could be around 25 floors or more...Just what we need. Now lets just hope they willl go for a 100 meters...
Hviid June 21st, 2006, 03:10 AM /\ i doubt they will go for 100 meters, atleast in Ørestad.. I hope i'm wrong though..
I also like those 2 towers! Much better than the simple/boring rectangular shape they planned earlier... :)
cphdude June 21st, 2006, 03:20 AM /\ i doubt they will go for 100 meters, atleast in Ørestad.. I hope i'm wrong though..
I agree they probably wont. But It would be wonderful if they did. You have a few years to go with the local plan, you have a new administration who have said they want ørestaden to be a becon for modern architecture and that building tall is nessesary...And reletivly few MIMBY's claiming that it wont fitt with the old city...
I honestly can't imagen why you wouldn't try and go for a 100 meters, just to see if we cant break the barier....It still wont be the tallest in the city, but a nice start...
Hviid June 21st, 2006, 03:39 AM /\ agreed 100% :yes:
But isn't the "official" excuse for not building taller than 80m in Ørestad, because of the airport being "so close"?
We all know and agree that it's stupid to have such a limit in an area which really isn't that close to the airport.. but if it is by law, that they can't build higher than 80m because of the airport, then, it won't ever happen... ever... unless the limit gets changed...
cphdude June 21st, 2006, 04:26 AM /\ agreed 100% :yes:
But isn't the "official" excuse for not building taller than 80m in Ørestad, because of the airport being "so close"?
We all know and agree that it's stupid to have such a limit in an area which really isn't that close to the airport.. but if it is by law, that they can't build higher than 80m because of the airport, then, it won't ever happen... ever... unless the limit gets changed...
It is, perhaps not by law, but rather by request from the Civil Avation Accosiation 8Statens luftfarts væsen) but i dont believe there ia an actually law...
Anyways, I have just read Berlingske first article about the case, and either they a full of shit, or Liebeskind is really bad at dementions. Acording to them the 3 "tall buildings" will be between 6 and 11 stories. Im guessing that they are the once who have gotten it wrong and are talking about 3 other tall buildings, in addition to the 3 20 stories that we will see. Otherwise im pretty much ready to kill my self... :runaway:
tournesol June 21st, 2006, 09:05 AM That was indeed a nice surprise in the football halftime break...
I really like the project, and I guess I didn't really believe in the chances of going taller than 80m, so I'm quite happy with this.
Btw, I'm pretty sure the Fields tower is outside this project. So Libeskinds project only has two towers, but atleast it seems they'll have around 25 floors instead of 20.
When Berlingske mentions 6-11 floors it seems to macth what the rest of the project(apart from the towers) looks like, so I guess that's what they mean...
EDK_DK June 21st, 2006, 11:00 AM As some of you may have heard in the news, Liebeskind presented his plan for ørestaden that included car free streets and 2 tall building, that looked like the standard 20 stories...
more in the news on tv2 at 23.15
Thanks mlm and cphdude.. Great news.
Politikken also have an article:
http://politiken.dk/VisArtikel.iasp?PageID=460604
http://www.politiken.dk/images/06/06/21/0606211007123037_8763D4C4CA02E31399C15B9A6A05C2.jpg
More:
http://www.orestad.dk/nyhedsbrev_orestad
http://www.ncc.dk/templates/GenericPage____9648.aspx
cphdude June 22nd, 2006, 09:23 AM A bit more about the project - in danish...
Planen for Ørestad City afsløret
Den verdensberømte arkitekt Daniel Libeskind har løftet sløret for den helhedsplan i Ørestad City, som han har skabt for NCC Property Development i samarbejde med Ørestadsselskabet og Steen og Strøm.
Helhedsplanen er bygget op omkring åbne, attraktive offentlige rum som de primære elementer. Byrummene anlægges i et forløb, som sammen med de tilstødende bygninger giver området en karakter, der leder tankerne hen på Københavns middelalderbys byrum.
Ankommer man fra Ørestad Metrostation, kommer man ind i Centergaden gennem en indbydende passage - et galleri - dækket af en glasbaldakin. Centralt i området skabes en ny, åben plads som det centrale byrum. En elipseformet platform, brolagt mod nord og landskabelig mod syd, giver bl.a. adgang til to tårnbyggerier.
De centrale tårne i cirka 20 etagers højde udgør kernen af byplanen. Med deres kurvede og hældende facader udgør de bydelens helt unikke vartegn. Ligesom spirene i Københavns historiske bymidte markerer de placeringen af områdets vigtige, offentlige pladser.
Omkring den centrale plads tænkes etableret publikumsvenlige faciliteter såsom restauranter og caféer med udendørs servering.
Et brolagt område omkring de to tårne udgør hovedfærdselsåren for fodgængere. I det hele taget ligger det i planens trafikkoncept, at området udlægges som en fodgængerzone med begrænset kørsel tilladt for personbiler, taxier og udrykningskøretøjer. Al parkering i bydelen foregår under jorden - dels på traditionelle parkeringspladser og dels i automatiske parkeringsanlæg.
Penthouse-lejligheder
Kvarteret skal overvejende anvendes til serviceerhverv, kontor og hoteller. Endvidere planlægges etableret op til 10 % boliger i det ene af de to centrale tårne og som penthouse lejligheder i nogle af kontorbygningerne.
Selv siger Daniel Libeskind om helhedsplanen: "Planen er skabt som en hyldest til det urbane liv i det 21. århundrede og til Københavns eksisterende, mangfoldige traditioner. Kvarteret bliver fyldt med energi og intensitet med åbne pladser, nicher, kontorbygninger, kulturtilbud og boliger. Et tema som vil genlyde både af Københavns sjæl og musikken fra byens liv."
"Jeg elsker København, som jeg synes er en af verdens mest spændende byer. Derfor er det en fantastisk mulighed for mig, at få lov at skabe en masterplan til byen," siger Daniel Libeskind.
Overborgmester Ritt Bjerregaard har set helhedsplanen og er meget begejstret: "Planen for området i Ørestad City har et tårnhøjt ambitionsniveau. Det er ikke bare Ørestad, der bliver løftet - det er hele København. Jeg er særligt begejstret over, at vi i København får arkitekter i verdensklasse til at bygge boliger og ikke bare prestigebyggerier. På den måde demokratiseres arkitekturen, og vi får skabt nye kvarterer med stor kvalitet i hverdagen," siger Ritt Bjerregaard og fortsætter:
Gavn for mange mennesker
"Libeskind har formået at skabe nogle rammer, som jeg er sikker på, bliver til gavn for de mange mennesker, der i det daglige skal bruge området som medarbejdere i virksomhederne, som beboere og som besøgende. Jeg glæder mig meget til i de kommende år at se planerne blive ført ud i livet - og jeg håber også, at det lykkes at få Daniel Libeskind engageret til at tegne nogle af byggerierne på arealet."
http://pics.jp.metropol.dk/169/169874/169874_large.jpg
tournesol June 22nd, 2006, 12:54 PM Time for some BIG news!!!
A 200m/54-55 floor hotel tower for Ørestad City!
Before everyone gets too carried away, I think we can only consider this a vision to start with. It is Ørestad City with its 80m restriction, so I don't really know what the chances is of this being build. But they are certainly trying to challange the authorities, which is a good start...
Anyway back to the project. It's designed by BIG. It seems to be the latest version of the Fields hotel tower. The hotel chain FIRST Hotels is the commisioner of the project, so it can't be pure fantasy. The project is called the Escher Tower (If you don't allready know about Escher, do a google image search and you'll be lost for hours).
Seems like our very own Turning Torso - just a little bit taller :D
Here's a few pictures. More can be found on BIG's homepage.
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/571/eschertower14ox.jpg
copyright: BIG
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/682/eschertower23pi.jpg
copyright: BIG
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/6011/eschertower35ia.jpg
copyright: BIG
Matthieu June 22nd, 2006, 01:50 PM I'll archive that thread in the next days, I'll leave it open for you people to cut/paste what you need to in the next one. PM me once it's done so I archive that one.
tournesol June 22nd, 2006, 02:25 PM I'll archive that thread in the next days, I'll leave it open for you people to cut/paste what you need to in the next one. PM me once it's done so I archive that one.OK, I'll launch a new one a soon as possible...
staff June 22nd, 2006, 02:46 PM :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
The Escher Tower looks amazing! Reminds me of TT in some, but good, ways. I really hope it will be built - because it's a stunning design, and it would help the development and mentality towards skyscrapers even further in the Öresund Region. This tower would, if built, be the next step of what the Turning Torso started.
And of course, Malmö and Copenhagen would have the two best skyscrapers in Northern Europe (maybe in all of Europe). :)
Let's cross our fingers, fellas!
tournesol,
What is the BIG homepage URL?
DenverDane June 22nd, 2006, 02:58 PM ^^ http://www.big.dk/ ;)
Yeah, it would be extremely cool with a 'scraper like that, but somehow I doubt it will ever happen.... :(
Thanks for the find, tournesol. At least it's encouraging to see that there are still architects left who dare think tall!
cphdude June 22nd, 2006, 04:04 PM hmm...I dont really know what to think here. I thought is was a joke at first but i guess not. But since there hasent been anything in the news about it, im guessing it just a plan, and they might not do it, even if the website says commisioned...I see its the same once with plans for the roof top park on Magasins buildings.
I cant really see anywhere how tall it will be, where did you find that Tournasol? Simply counting the floors or did you read it somewhere?
Anyway, I like it, but I would also called it doubtfull...But it could be awesome....God bless that former PLOT boy Bjakke Ingels, and his love of tall....
btw, how nuts is DLL gonna go when he reads this??? :) :scouserd:
mlm June 22nd, 2006, 04:42 PM Pretty sweet design, though I think the chances are very small. Atleast in Ørestaden.
tournesol June 22nd, 2006, 05:30 PM I cant really see anywhere how tall it will be, where did you find that Tournasol? Simply counting the floors or did you read it somewhere?
It says so on the project page on the BIG website. It says "SIZE: 20.000 m2, 200 m tall"
I guess the reason nothing has been in the press is that it hasn't been made puplic yet. I happens now and then, that a project appears on the architects website before it has been made puplic to the press.
But I agree with you all that it's hard to believe it to be more than a very nice vision.
But if you go browsing the BIG website, there's also pictures from a reception in BIGs new offices. Here's also a picture of Bjarke Ingels together with Ritt and Bondam and the tower. And Bondam look's pretty much in love with it...
staff June 22nd, 2006, 05:42 PM By the way, that People's Building in Shanghai looks really cool!
Is it approved, or what?
Hviid June 22nd, 2006, 06:40 PM btw, how nuts is DLL gonna go when he reads this??? :) :scouserd:
lol.. not THAT nuts.. maybe a lil...
:drunk: :crazy2: :crazy: :hammer: :nuts:
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There we go ;) Once this project gets approved and actually starts construction, i'll REALLY go nuts!!!
Back to the project: I think this is friggen awesome! Our very own better-than-TT tower :D
Even if it doesn't get built, it's nice to see proposols like these, because eventually one (or more) will get built!
mlm June 22nd, 2006, 07:19 PM Even though I'm still very sceptical about this, any chance these 2 things could be connected?
Liebeskind i Ørestad
Den verdensberømte arkitekt Daniel Liebeskind er i København; mens reporteren overskuer de forskellige bydele i Ørestad fra toppen af Ferring-bygningen ved Ørestad Station, forklarer Daniel Liebeskind med smittende entusiasme, hvordan der på de åbne arealer bag Fields' om fem år fremstår 200.000 kvadratmeter bolig og erhverv i glas og i stål. Entreprenøren NCC offentliggør allerede om 14 dage planer for et storhotel i området.
TV 2 Nyhederne kl. 22.00, 20/6/2006Would surely be awesome if that was the case, though I can't belive it.
staff June 22nd, 2006, 07:34 PM Back to the project: I think this is friggen awesome! Our very own better-than-TT tower :D
Let's not exaggerate now... ;)
Sideshow_Bob June 22nd, 2006, 07:38 PM IMO I don't think it's that fantastic as you guys seem to think. I like the height though, and it's nice to see this kind of proposals over there!
Hviid June 22nd, 2006, 07:40 PM Let's not exaggerate now... ;)
lol. Sorry ;)
cphdude June 22nd, 2006, 09:23 PM Even though I'm still very sceptical about this, any chance these 2 things could be connected?
Would surely be awesome if that was the case, though I can't belive it.
I thought that it might be, since they spoke of the second hotel in Ørestaden. But from what I can tell there are 3 hotel projects planed out there right now. The NCC one, the one located next to the ferring building and the one at Bella Centeret. Since the guys who commisioned this project is First Hotel, the very hotel chain Bella Centeret has been negotiating with on their plans, it might also be them. Be they are not likely to start a project of this scale, when they have basicly promised the hotel to be finnished at the IOC conference in 2009. So lets hope it is the NCC building, eventhough it would have probably been shown on Liebeskind's plans...But I believe they still own plenty of land out there, that is not spoken for...
cphdude June 22nd, 2006, 09:40 PM It says so on the project page on the BIG website. It says "SIZE: 20.000 m2, 200 m tall"
I guess the reason nothing has been in the press is that it hasn't been made puplic yet. I happens now and then, that a project appears on the architects website before it has been made puplic to the press.
But I agree with you all that it's hard to believe it to be more than a very nice vision.
But if you go browsing the BIG website, there's also pictures from a reception in BIGs new offices. Here's also a picture of Bjarke Ingels together with Ritt and Bondam and the tower. And Bondam look's pretty much in love with it...
Are we looking at the same page? Cos the one I look at only says 20.000 m2...(no wait, i see it now)
Also, a 200 meter building is at least 50 stories, as you also wrote. if you do the math thats a floorplan of only 400 m2. I know it is for a hotel, but it still sounds very low...But maybe thats just me...
I cant find the pic you are talking about...Goddamnit i hate these stupid artsy websites. They "may" look good, but I can never find anything on them.... :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:
mlm June 22nd, 2006, 10:20 PM I thought the NCC one was the "Field's Hotel", but I'm not sure of anything. From the first of the renderings it looks like it is a bit away from Ferring, but on the second one it looks like it is close by. I'm confussed...
http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/skyscrapercity/big1.jpg
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http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/skyscrapercity/big2.jpg
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If you want to see the reception photos go to the BIG website and choose cronological. It's under 2006 and it's called "BIG".
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And finally yes, 20.000 m2 seems like too little for a 200 m tower.
NorthStar77 June 22nd, 2006, 11:22 PM Looks awesome!! I keep my fingers crossed!
ch1le June 22nd, 2006, 11:33 PM http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/skyscrapercity/big1.jpg
this actually looks retarded, i mean, thats JUST wrong and... strangely, at the same time very cool! :D
Cool project, visionary to say the least :)
cphdude June 22nd, 2006, 11:53 PM I thought the NCC one was the "Field's Hotel", but I'm not sure of anything. From the first of the renderings it looks like it is a bit away from Ferring, but on the second one it looks like it is close by. I'm confussed...
I think perhaps, since it is commisioned by First Hotel, and they dont own any land in Ørestaden and are not likely to actually pay for it them selfs, it is probably just a suggestion...
If you want to see the reception photos go to the BIG website and choose cronological. It's under 2006 and it's called "BIG".
Thanks...Why the hell do they have to berry it like that....Looks good though and that fact that both Ritt and Bondam shows up proved that he is moving up in the world...And lets face it. With the W and M houses, Bjerget, and the possible Battery with Mosque and this project, he can pretty much call Ørestaden his personal backyeard....
And finally yes, 20.000 m2 seems like too little for a 200 m tower.
well, perhaps it will work. A very slim tower as planed....Or perhaps they simply need 20.000 m2 and already expects the make it shorter...Or perhaps, and this is my dream version, 20.000 is just for the hotel, and the to 20 floors is to be used for apartments....Now that would be a kick ass idea...Oh, well...cant get to excited about an idea like this...
tournesol June 23rd, 2006, 08:41 AM OK, everyone...
Since this thread will be archiced soon, please continue posting in the new Ørestad Thread. (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=365571)
Feel free to re-post some of your latest post in the new thread...
Matthieu June 28th, 2006, 10:57 PM Ok, I'll archive this one.
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