Part 1

Yesterday was a beautiful, hot and sunny spring day, so as mlm did it in Århus, I aslo went on a photo tour.
The goal of the tour was primarily to visit the new Fields shoppingcenter in Ørestad, but ended up with being an "all-the-way-through-Ørestad-tour" instead.

Actually the plan changed allready halfway to Ørestad as I was passing through the South Harbour,
so in this first part we won't even arrive in Ørestad, but instead be looking at the site where another big
urban development is about to break ground.


The south harbour is developing from its former industrial and other harbour-related activities into a new office and residential district.
During the past years a lot of office buildings have been build - most of them only 5 floors - but now the residential parts is about to start construction.

But first a look at a little "oasis". A small community of people living in houseboats and in small wooden houses standing on pillars in the water.

http://img220.exs.cx/img220/1984/sydhavn17xm.jpg
In the background, you can see the inner harbour with the silos being converted to residentials.
If it wasn't for the heat haze you would have seen more of the historic skyline as well.


http://img220.exs.cx/img220/148/sydhavn28zu.jpg


http://img220.exs.cx/img220/6625/sydhavn38nz.jpg
Contrasts. Modern offices and "casual" boat design.
Not all very beautiful, but nevertheless very popular...


http://img61.exs.cx/img61/3236/nauticon8ni.jpg
Ericsson


http://img61.exs.cx/img61/7748/sydhavnspanorama3ju.jpg
Panorama of the little community on both sides of the harbour. They wont be affected by the new developments. :)
The development zone is behind the boat houses to the left and all the way to the other side of the powerstation.


http://img61.exs.cx/img61/96/sydhavnluft7pm.jpg
Aerial of the area. Boathouse commuity seen at the bottom, central CPH in the background and the development zone in between.



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This is the current state. The office building in the distance is the danish Nokia office (with a bridge spanning across the bassin).
Everything else in this picture will change, except for the silos which might be converted to flats. You can see the demolition of the yellow buildings to the left has started.



http://img238.exs.cx/img238/8793/sydhavnplan6ne.jpg
This is stage 1 of the development. The first 1000 dwellings of a total of about 5000.
A dutch office has design the masterplan, inspired by recent harbour developments in Amsterdam.
The previous photo is taken from the right edge of the map looking across the short pier into the bassin.
At the tip of the pier I've read that french star architect Jean Nouvell will be designing a highrise.
Unfortunatly only about 60 meters tall, but everything counts ;)



http://img239.exs.cx/img239/6282/sluseholmen68ax.jpg
The rest of the area will be 7 floors towards the bigger canals and 5 towards the smaller. Notice the Nokia building from before.


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In the small canals houses will narrower and stand directly at the waterfront.


http://img239.exs.cx/img239/9060/sluseholmen28rs.jpg



http://img239.exs.cx/img239/3589/sluseholmen12us.jpg



http://img238.exs.cx/img238/1153/sydhavnfremtid2tl.jpg
The future stages...



http://img238.exs.cx/img238/8367/sydhavnluft28jw.jpg
Another aerial of the area. It aslo gives a good view to the western suburbs of Copenhagen.



I'l be back with part 2 shortly...

Thanx for this update on The south harbour:okay:

This seems to be a rather large development. Do you know how many years it will take to complete?


...I'll be waiting for the Ørestad update:cool:

Part 2


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Arriving at Ørestad City against the bright sunlight :cool:


http://img176.exs.cx/img176/420/fieldsforanferring3gj.jpg
This is one hell of a big box. Keep in mind that we are talking 20 floors in the Ferring Tower behind!


http://img176.exs.cx/img176/6240/fieldsforanferring21al.jpg


http://img176.exs.cx/img176/5623/ferringmotorvej8ie.jpg
Good Ol' Ferring. Seen from the south side of the motorway with the metro station in front of it.


http://img176.exs.cx/img176/9497/fieldsmotorvej3ne.jpg
People have quite differnt opinions about Fields exterior, but keep in mind that its only
Stage 1, that have been build so far. This side of Fields will have the 20 floor hoteltower, a
cinamacomplex, office's and - probably - more shops added.


http://img176.exs.cx/img176/3601/fields2site5qx.jpg
This where stage 2 will be build. Only a question when...


http://img190.exs.cx/img190/9214/fieldsmodajsalle5qx.jpg
The facade towards Arne Jacobsens Alle.


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From under the elevated metrolines. Ferring tower to the left.


http://img190.exs.cx/img190/5227/metromodfieldsindgang7ov.jpg
The main entrance seen from the metrostation. To the left of this "portal" the cinemacomplex will be.


http://img190.exs.cx/img190/8686/fieldsindgangmodferring0mj.jpg
And standing just by the entrance looking back at Ferring.


Come back for Part 3 - the inside look... :wave:

Nice! I think that the Ferring Tower looks really good! :)

Ha, tournesol! :) I was lucky to come here just after you finished posting Part 2. :cool:

A very nice and thorough introduction: a bit of the past, the visible present, and the projected future! Really well done because you convey such an excellent picture of what will happen in Copenhagen's South Harbor and Oerestad areas--particularly South Harbor. :okay:

Copenhagen is wise to dedicate this attractive but under-utilized area to new and (comparatively dense) housing! The presence of water always gives a certain magic and flair, and people living in the vicinity appreciate that, consciously or unconsciously. I like the fact that the buildings have different, varied facades, so that they are all quite individual units. The only thing that disappoints me--and you can already guess what that is ;)--is the fact that (a) the height differences are negligible, and more importantly (b) the buildings are all flat-tops! :rant:

Thank you, tournesol, great show! I'll now patiently await Part 3. :wave:

Very nice photos of Orestad and the habour. Keep up the good work! ;)

Few observations:

- I fell in love with the first pic of this thread. :) Those boats and huts on the foreground mix very nicely with the urban background.

- It seems that those Dutch architects know what they are doing. Their plans for the seafront area look much better than anything similar they are planning to build here.

- No "commie blocks" (god, I hate that word) in Copenhagen's suburbs?

- Ferring is still in my top-5 of Scandinavian high-rises. It's very lovely building (gotta love the monolithic design and black facades).


You know without saying that I like these pics. :cool: ;)

Originally posted by mlm Thanx for this update on The south harbour:okay:

This seems to be a rather large development. Do you know how many years it will take to complete?
This first part should be ready allready in 2005/2006, but the whole project will probably last 5-10 years to complete.

Originally posted by Whose Homepage The only thing that disappoints me--and you can already guess what that is ;)--is the fact that (a) the height differences are negligible, and more importantly (b) the buildings are all flat-tops! :rant:
I agree with you on the first point - the building heights. But often planners in here tned to set ONE buildings heright witch should count for all buildings, so actually I was happy to see that they at least chose differnt heights for the small and large canals. And included a tower (not tall enough of course, but that goes without saying in this forum).

About the flat tops - yes you're rigtht - I guessed that you wouldn't be happy about that, but I only partially agree. Flat tops isn't necessarily bad - even in our climate. But I would have preferred the larger buildings to have a penthouse floor on top, to make a "softer" finish towards the sky.

Originally posted by Oberleutnant - I fell in love with the first pic of this thread. :) Those boats and huts on the foreground mix very nicely with the urban background.
Agreed :) I'll try to dig out an old photo showing this even better, but from before the silo conversions started...

Originally posted by Oberleutnant - No "commie blocks" (god, I hate that word) in Copenhagen's suburbs?
Wrong. But not that many. Most suburbs are widespread areas of single familly houses.
I'll post a few for you later...

Originally posted by Oberleutnant ...gotta love the monolithic design and black facades.
Yep :cool:

This one is for you, Ober. :)

http://tournesol.members.easyspace.com/sydhavn_old.jpg
An old (minimum 2 years) scanned photo showing the same view as the very first picture in this thread.
The silos are all still grey and deserted, but the sky is clear so you can see the historic towers in the old innercity.

Great, finally to see more Ørestad photos. I agree with the others, the waterfront-developement designed by the duch office is really good. Varied, refreshing, and different from ordinary apartmentbuildings put up today. I hope the Bjøvika developers here will learn from this!

And charming with that boat-community. I have a feeling that living in a boat is somewhat more normal in Denmark than in Norway. I dont think we have community of boat-dwellers. Father of a friend of mine lives in a boat, but thats the exception. It was a life-long dream come true for him :)

Thank you for a great round two. Looking forward to see the inside of Field's:)


I really hope we'll see some proposals for the next Ørestad highrises soon (the 80 m towers), Ferring is getting a bit lonely out there. Or atleast some action for the 2 proposed ones.:cheers:

Great Pictures ! :)

I love the buildings they are going to build Sydhavnen. Insteed of just making big blocks, in the same shape and size, they are building some cool different size buildings, in different colors and materials. Way to go! :okay:

Are there any pics of the highrise?
I remember a thread about the project, and then it was only a non-detail block. Wonder what it will look like. :?

Stunning pictures and as NorthStar77 said, it's great to finally see some new, fresh photos from Ørestad and its surroundings (South Harbour). Furthermore, I must say I'm impressed by the outcome of the dutch proposal! Do you have some more info on that project, or perhaps a link to the architect/design firm(s)? Would be appreciated nonetheless :cool:

Also, some of us are dying to see what Field's is like from the inside (when completely done) *hint* :D :angel1:

Originally posted by mlm ... I really hope we'll see some proposals for the next Ørestad highrises soon (the 80 m towers), Ferring is getting a bit lonely out there. I think now when Fields has opened, things might start to happen. I've visited Ørestad quite many times during the past years. And untill this last tour, it has always been like visiting an unpopulated remote construction site. But this time it was totally different. Lots of people and activity, also in the surroundings. It was clearly visible that quite many people was in Ørestad for the first time ever, and took the opportunity to take a look at the place - and not only the inside of Fields. I'm sure future potential investors who visit Ørestad, will get a far better inpression now, so I'm getting quite optimistic.
Originally posted by Kaneda
Are there any pics of the highrise?
I remember a thread about the project, and then it was only a non-detail block. Wonder what it will look like. :? I haven't seen anything yet, and I'm quite sure that there is nothing more to see - yet. Only the residentals parts a certain to start building soon. I don'd think that there's any actual investors/users found for the highrise - but Jean Nouvell's name shouldn't make it too hard to find some. I just hope that he decides to try to "push" the height limits a bit. I think the politicians are much more likely to approve a taller tower, if they have an actual project from an well known international architect before them... ;)
Originally posted by _tictac_ Do you have some more info on that project, or perhaps a link to the architect/design firm(s)?

Also, some of us are dying to see what Field's is like from the inside (when completely done) *hint* :D :angel1:
This is the Dutch company: Soeters Van Eldonk Ponec Architecten (http://www.soetersvaneldonkponec.nl/eng/p-u-0005.html) However they only developed the masterplan. The more detailed planning is done by the danish company Arkitema. All the rendings shown in the first post are their work.

The pictures from inside Fields will be posted later today... promise...

Part 3

INSIDE FIELDS

The shoppingcenter has 3 levels - 2 retailfloors and 1 leisure floor.
When entering through the main entrance, you arrive in a large atrium. The first impression is almost chaotic.
Elevators, escalators, stairs and bridges all over the place and a the shape of the room is far from the boxy exterior look.
This is the biggest open space in the center, but at the bottom level it feels a bit narrow because of the height.

http://img62.exs.cx/img62/8341/fields10interior4fe.jpg
Level 1. Looking up through the atrium. The ground floor is has all the largest stores.
Consumer electronics, sportsequipment and a huge supermarket that takes up half of the area.

http://img58.exs.cx/img58/7643/fields13interior6zq.jpg


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http://img62.exs.cx/img62/9089/fields6interior3mi.jpg
Level 2. The level has lots of daylight almost everywhere.
This is the fashion floor. Shoes and clothing allover the place...


http://img62.exs.cx/img62/3954/fields7interior7mw.jpg


http://img62.exs.cx/img62/2884/fields8interior7rg.jpg


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Level 3. The leisure floor. Childrens area, fitness center, and lots of bars and restaurants.


http://img62.exs.cx/img62/9951/fields3interior7ez.jpg
The atrium seen from level 3.


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http://img62.exs.cx/img62/9017/fields1interior6lg.jpg


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I chose to leave the way most people arrive and leave the center - through the parkingdecks. Two decks with room for 3000 cars.
Nothing special, but the biggest I've ever been to.


So what is my conclusion? Well. It's big, but not bigger than I expected. The design is way better than most shoppingcenters I've seen. "Fisketorvet" looses on all areas, execpt for it's fantastic view from the restaurant area through the inner harbour.

That conludes the first visit to Fields.
Next is Part 4, which looks at the developments status of the rest of Ørestad...

Originally posted by tournesol

I think now when Fields has opened, things might start to happen. I've visited Ørestad quite many times during the past years. And untill this last tour, it has always been like visiting an unpopulated remote construction site. But this time it was totally different. Lots of people and activity, also in the surroundings. It was clearly visible that quite many people was in Ørestad for the first time ever, and took the opportunity to take a look at the place - and not only the inside of Fields. I'm sure future potential investors who visit Ørestad, will get a far better inpression now, so I'm getting quite optimistic.


Sounds interesting, now I can't wait to visit again.:)

Let's hope you're right, it sure would be nice if to see some highrise news soon:cheers:

Thank you very much Tournosal, great photos.:D It looks like there's a lot of different levels, and bridges and escalators connection them:).

If I should say a bad thing, it looks a bit cold and white (just like Bruun's), but I guess I'll have to see it myself to get the real impression.


Back to my highrise questions, do you know the site Ørestad House is proposed for? Here's the "masterplan" renderings:

http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/orestad/1.jpg

http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/orestad/2.jpg

http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/orestad/3.jpg

And for everyone else who didn't see it before, here's the proposed "Ørestad Tower":

http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/orestad/4.jpg

:)

This is a REALLY impressive thread! :eek: Thanks to you both, tournesol and mlm!!! (:

Originally posted by mlm
Back to my highrise questions, do you know the site Ørestad House is proposed for?
It's at the south side of the motorway, just next to Ørestad Boulevard and the metroline

http://tournesol.members.easyspace.com/thisone.gif
http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/orestad/3.jpg

Originally posted by tournesol

It's at the south side of the motorway, just next to Ørestad Boulevard and the metroline:



Thanx. That's a bit funny though, I was sure that the area south of the motorway would be the last one to be developed.

Originally posted by mlm

Thanx. That's a bit funny though, I was sure that the area south of the motorway would be the last one to be developed.
I guess it's because this site is closer to the metrostation than any of the other available highrise sites.

Ah, thanks, tournesol! :) The long awaited moment! :okay:

You're right: at first glance it does seem a bit chaotic & tight: elevators, escalators, stairways, skybridges, small & large balconies jutting out, lots of columns everywhere! Yet the overall space, like everything else in Denmark, is clean, open, and inviting. :cool:

Impressive tournesol, Field's looks really GREAT from the inside...and huge! It's bigger than I expected as it didn't look this big on the previous u/c pictures :cool:
Now lets hope they'll begin focusing on stage 2 soon, it would be a nice addition to Field's ;)

Thanks a lot, tournesol! I truly appreciate the result of your time and effort to show us how Ørestad and Field's look currently.

Thanks for the Fields pic. Its looks great from the inside. Reminds me a bit of Kolding Storcenter, it just has more floors. :)

Originally posted by Kaneda

Thanks for the Firlds pic. Its looks great from the inside. Reminds me a bit of Kolding Storcenter, with several floors. :)

Hmpf, since when did Kolding Storcenter have several floors? :D :? :D

Originally posted by _tictac_

Hmpf, since when did Kolding Storcenter have several floors? :D :? :D

Hehe, that wasent what i meant! :D I meant that it looked like Fields had some long halls, wich KSC also has. :)

Now, Do i make myself clear !? :bleep: :D

Originally posted by Kaneda

Hehe, that wasent what i meant! :D I meant that it looked like Fields had some long halls, wich KSC also has. :)

Now, Do i make myself clear !? :bleep: :D

Sir, YES SIR!!! :D

Originally posted by _tictac_

Sir, YES SIR!!! :D

Put that grin off your face, you maggot! :rant: ;)



Incidentally, I was about to make a thread and ask about Danish projects, because we haven't heard much about them lately. :) Thank you all, these renders are very impressive.


@ tourne

Much appreciated!

Part 4

In this part, we'll be looking at the rest of the development status of Ørestad City, and then in the next - and final part - we end the tour in Ørestad North.

You've allready seen the masterplan of Ørestad City, posted by mlm.
Here's a panorama of things as they are right now:
http://img197.exs.cx/img197/5782/orestadcitypanorama7sl.jpg
As you see, there isn't that much construction activity to be seen. But that's about to change.
Quick "walktrough" of the pano: To the left is the Bella Center. Scandinavias largest congress and exhibitioncenter (build before anyone thought of Ørestad).
Next to it is a large Green - which will become The Ørestad Park - surrounded by 8-12 floor residentials.
The lonely crane on the far side of the green is V-huset, the first of these residential projects - more info later.
To the left of Fields is the KLP office building, and behind Fields is - of course - the Ferring Tower.


http://img197.exs.cx/img197/8283/arnejsalle1ru.jpg
The first bit of the curved street - Arne Jacobsen Alle - between KLP and Fields.
To the left a sign announcing a new office building, but AFAIK it's not anywhere close to construction start.


http://img17.exs.cx/img17/8111/klpfacade2cx.jpg
The facade of the KLP officebuilding.
On the site behind the metroline a new highschool is soon to start construction.

Here's a rendering of it:
http://img41.exs.cx/img41/9188/orestadgymnasium8sq.jpg
©3xNielsen Architects


http://img198.exs.cx/img198/3434/parkhuseneskilt8aa.jpg
Next to KLP, this residential project - Parkhusene - will start in a couple of month.


http://img198.exs.cx/img198/3984/parkhusenegrund8wi.jpg
This is the site now...


http://img165.exs.cx/img165/9892/parkhusenefuture2qd.jpg
... and the site in the near future.


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Looking north along Ørestad Boulevard.


http://img41.exs.cx/img41/1880/vhusskilt5rk.jpg
The first residential under construction in Ørestd City is this project - V-Huset.


http://img41.exs.cx/img41/1206/vmhusetuc8gz.jpg
Here seen behind the metroline. Only one floor up, eleven to go...


http://img196.exs.cx/img196/396/bellactrstationmodsyd7xr.jpg
The construction seen from Bella Center metrostation. Ørestad station further down the line...


http://img196.exs.cx/img196/9213/kbhe8sj.jpg
Next to Bella center station this office building is U/C.

Two renderings of the finished building:
http://www.shl.dk/pages/03_Projekter/04_Erhverv/Koebenshavns_energi/jpg/01.jpg

http://www.shl.dk/pages/03_Projekter/04_Erhverv/Koebenshavns_energi/jpg/04.jpg



http://img196.exs.cx/img196/9649/modnordfrabcstation0ck.jpg
Just a teaser for the next - and final part.
Looking north from Bellacenter metrostation.
Ørestad North is currently the place with most construction activity - as the distant cranes indicates...

Thank you very much, again:D


This is the fist time I see anything about V-Huset, nice to see they are over ground:)

Awesome! I really love KLP, it looks so great and blends in just perfectly with Fields, thank you once again for taking your time and updating us on what's happening in Ørestad :cool:
Patiently waiting for part 5, will there by any chance be anything from the IT University or perhaps DR Media House? ;) :angel1:

The last picture is amazing, cranes allover...looking good :D

Originally posted by _tictac_
Patiently waiting for part 5, will there by any chance be anything from the IT University or perhaps DR Media House? ;) :angel1:
BIG chance... ;)

The last picture is amazing, cranes allover...looking good :D
Getting even better as you get closer... :D Wait and see... ;)

Cool!! I'm gonna be as patient as I possibly can :D

Thank you tournesol, I apretiate this thread very much!! :)

I like how they use waterways in the developement, that ads the (already good) quality of the project! :okay:

Oooo my goodness! Those canals and waterfront residentials are just sooo lovely! I´d love to live like that! It looks so homely and pretty. Well...gotta check these other photos too real soon :)

Thanks for yet another update. :) Glad to see that they have started, or are about to, on some more projects. :)

Waiting for the last update! :)

Part 5

ØRESTAD NORTH

So now it's time for some construction pictures - finally. Ørestad North is way ahead of Ørestad City in terms of construction and development.
All land area is sold and about half of the area is allready build up or under construction. Unfortunately there's no highrises - yet.
The once planned, but later cancelled National Archives was to be 80 meter tall.
And it's still uncertian what's going to be build instead,and if it will be at the same height.


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Approaching the area from the south. Lot's of cranes :D


http://img120.exs.cx/img120/4819/panoramaorestadnord5kx.jpg


http://img120.exs.cx/img120/8315/orestadnordfraunistation2sm.jpg
To the right is the new DR - (Danish Broadcasting Corp.)
Also the big construction site in the middle belongs to DR. It'll be a new concert hall designed by french architect Jean Nouvell.
Behind that the Karen Blixen Parken Residentials are close to completion. Only one block still not topped out.


http://img120.exs.cx/img120/3912/kanalfraunistation6ah.jpg
Futher down is the University expansion (completed) and the IT-University (almost completed).


http://img120.exs.cx/img120/9652/panomodhavnestad1uy.jpg
Looking left - away from Ørestad - towards the harbour and the silos under construction.



http://img196.exs.cx/img196/1043/dr1mu.jpg
The DR-building. This is stage 1 of 4 stages. So far only this and the 2nd stage - the concert hall - is under construction. Part 3 and 4 still to come...


http://img196.exs.cx/img196/7530/drbagskilt6dg.jpg
DR from the other side. Notice the rendering on the sign. The buildings seen behind the sign is the"small black boxes" in the rendering.
So it means that the Concert Hall (the big blue box) is going to be quite tall.


http://img196.exs.cx/img196/3116/drmwennbergbagv8pt.jpg
DR again...


http://img120.exs.cx/img120/1213/tiegenkollegietuc6tl.jpg
Student housing


http://img120.exs.cx/img120/5949/tietgenskilt9bh.jpg
I'm looking very much forward to see this one finish. I like it :)


http://img120.exs.cx/img120/1279/kanalvitunimodsyd9op.jpg
IT-University left. Karen Blixen Parken right.


http://img120.exs.cx/img120/5172/ituni7oq.jpg
IT-university again.

and the inside:
http://www.sfou-it-hoejskolen.dk/phg/sideprojects/ith/images/plan01/it-h-plan1-3.jpg



http://img120.exs.cx/img120/8115/uni0sm.jpg
The University expansion


http://img120.exs.cx/img120/7434/univkanalmodnord4is.jpg
And again. The following two pictures are taken from the top floor of the building to the right.


http://img196.exs.cx/img196/7172/blixenparkenoppefrauni8mx.jpg


http://img120.exs.cx/img120/6817/tietgenoppefrauni3kr.jpg
The circular ground works for the Tietgen Kollegiet.
In the background - close to the elevated metroline - the following residentials will be u/c in later this spring:

http://img9.exs.cx/img9/8001/slangendomus2cb.jpg

http://img123.exs.cx/img123/5476/boligslangen3ed.jpg


And another student residential project also starting soon:
http://www.orestad.dk/bikuben4.jpg


http://img196.exs.cx/img196/5655/amagerboulevard8yf.jpg

A totally-off-topic-bonus-picture from my way home from Ørestad...
Amager Boulevard, one of the busiest streets in CPH. I'm standing right at the foot of Hotel Radisson SAS Scandinavia.
You can see its shadow across the street. In the background Scandic hotel, SAS Royal (almost hidden) and Europahuset.

SUUUUUUUUUUPER tour Tournesol:okay:

Ørestad Nord already looks dense:happy:

Cool update Tournesol! But i think that Karin Blixen-parken was the first residential U/C in Orestad, not V-Huset.

Great update! (again :D) Cant wait to see both the concert hall, and Tiegen. They are going to be awesome!

Its was sad that they canceled the National Archives. It would have been a great adition to the skyline. :(

Originally posted by Vespa

Cool update Tournesol! But i think that Karin Blixen-parken was the first residential U/C in Orestad, not V-Huset.
True :) ... that's why I wrote that V-huset is the first in Ørestad City ;)

Originally posted by tournesol

True :) ... that's why I wrote that V-huset is the first in Ørestad City ;)

Oh....of course:D

This is impressive thread, thanks for it! This is so fine - to take new area and build a whole new city on it!!!
http://testsite.members.easyspace.com/panorama_orestad_nord.jpg
The picture is interesting! Somehting like beehive. Hope, in reality it would look that impressive too!
http://testsite.members.easyspace.com/tietgen-skilt.jpg
Very Scandinavian, to my mind! Open, light, free
http://www.sfou-it-hoejskolen.dk/phg/sideprojects/ith/images/plan01/it-h-plan1-3.jpg
Sorry, this looks rather minimalistic, even boring to me. Hope you do not mind me too much...
http://testsite.members.easyspace.com/uni_v_kanal_mod_nord.jpg
How did you manage to go up there?
http://tournesol.members.easyspace.com/blixenparken_oppefra_uni.jpg
Heh, have been many times there ;)
http://tournesol.members.easyspace.com/amager_boulevard.jpg
Birds should be careful when flying along this house
http://testsite.members.easyspace.com/vhus-skilt.jpg
It is interesting that Danish cityplanners avoid highrise buildings that much here. Some more vertical accents definitely would help here to my mind...
But at the same time this is great possibility to create unified architectonic ensemble, representing contemporary architecture.

Damn, you were right...it sure looks impressive up close with the cranes sticking up everywhere, wow!
Tietgen Kollegiet is gonna look great, can't wait to see it once it's completed. :cool:
And also, thank you for posting some pictures of the IT University and DR Media House, they're both great :D

This is by far the best Ørestad tour ever posted here, awesome job tournesol!

Originally posted by Gatis
How did you manage to go up there?
http://tournesol.members.easyspace.com/blixenparken_oppefra_uni.jpg
The building is open during daytime, so I could just walk right in and go to the top floor... :)

Heh, have been many times there ;)
http://tournesol.members.easyspace.com/amager_boulevard.jpg
Many times??? Did you live here once?

It is interesting that Danish cityplanners avoid highrise buildings that much here. Well, things seems to be changing. Atleast among the cityplanners. The problem is the politicians.
They tend to panic if there's just a little bit of puplic protest, so they'd rather go for the 'safe' solutions, which means lowrises :bleep:

A double round of applause for two more fabulous update installments, Tournesol! :okay:

You really know what's going on in Orestad, and this knowledge enables you to give a thorough & comprehensible understanding of the plans & projects for that area of Copenhagen to the rest of us. Great pix & text! :)

And yes: let's hope that Ferring Tower will get some Tall company! :master:

Regarding Amagerbrogade and my being there Many times??? Did you live here once?
I earlier worked for Danish Environmental Protection Agency. Went to Copenhagen some 15 times. And this street was one where I entered the city. Have been walking and cycling there too.
I learned to love Copenhagen in its diversity and relaxedness.

@ Tournesol

Har du nogle billeder af vinduesfacaderne, synes jeg kunne være interssant.

So does anyone know what will happen, with those 2 sites that was chanceled by the new government (national archives and Hotel Pro Forma?) If I remember correctly, they both had permission for some tall buildings...well, tall, copenhagen style.

If I remember correctly, they both had permission for some tall buildings...well, tall, copenhagen style.

Lol, cphdude! :laugh:

Judging from the posts of some other forumers here, one might also say "tall, Helsinki style" etc. ... :)

Welcome to SCity and particularly to the Scandinavian and Baltic forums! :wave: :cheers1:

thanx man. its just so sad that i found this place. Im gonna waste so many hour in here...Its really not good....

O come on now, cphdude! It's not as bad as all that! :)

True, some of us spend a lot of time here at SCity--too much perhaps. ;)
Yet for those who do--and also for those who manage their time very wisely-- it is an extremely pleasant and most worthwhile experience. :okay:

Welcome to the forum cphdud! Great to see another dane here :cheers:

Wee a new dane! :) Welcome to the forum, hope you'll stick around! :)

Welcome, cphdude! :)

Woohoo, great to see another dane joining SSC! welcome! ;)

thanx for all the well wiches. And hopefully im here to stay. Ive been looking for a place like this for a long time. ill probebly just be lurking aroung to start with, but who know, maybe ill post something someday. If ill ever get a chance to get a new camera...anyways - respekt til byens hold

Wellcome Cphdude :) Great too have anoter local onboard!
About your questions, I still think Hotel Proforma is "on track". Which means nothing is happening, but it's also not cancelled. Anyway it never was very tall, same height as the KLP building nearby.
The former National Archives site is still unknown. I believe the approval of a 80 m tower is still valid, but when a new future developer shows up whith a new project for the site, I'm quite sure they'll have too go through the approval process again. Hopefully the proposed tower will stay...

...Forza FCK...

I still think Hotel Proforma is "on track". Which means nothing is happening, but it's also not cancelled. Anyway it never was very tall, same height as the KLP building nearby.


Really... I seam to remember reading somewhere that it was cancelled for good, but i havent been able to find it again, or get some other confirmation. Plus its been more then a year since the building was to have started, and right now it just used as parkingspace...too bad, idd be a great place for a highrise...anyways thanx, and good news about the natioal archive site at least...Now if only some of the local companies could get off there ass and start building something other then those stupid yellow 2 story single homes they seam so fond of out there, then maybe we'dd have something...by the way, where exactly is it located? I asume its the site that is marked as being sold to Kulturministeriet, on the orestad website??

I asume its the site that is marked as being sold to Kulturministeriet, on the orestad website??
Correct :)

Some renderings of a new residentialproject in Ørestad City, called Bornholmerparken. It's located next to the big park, not far from Fields.

http://www.bornholmerparken.dk/bins/site/content/images/Galleri-bygningerne/perspektiv-2.jpg

http://www.bornholmerparken.dk/bins/site/content/images/Galleri-bygningerne/perspektiv-1.jpg

http://www.bornholmerparken.dk/bins/site/content/images/Galleri-bygningerne/perspektiv-3.jpg

There's no official date for construction start. My guess is within a couple of months...

Sorry, tournesol, but as far as I'm concerned they should stop right now!

As you know I'm not at all against new buildings ... but these new apartment complexes to be erected in the vicinity of Marshal Fields are so commonplace and boring that I would prefer to see nothing built, or a much improved project.

Bornholm is a beautiful island. :) Why malign it with this sort of stuff? :rant:

I agree with WH. Bornholmerparken looks boring like most of the other appartments in Orestad. Why dont they built something more unique like V-huset and Tietgen Kollegiet?

Yeah, it's just more boxy "Karen Blixen Parken" stuff... :( Modern-day commie-blocks.. This is something I could come up with if I was having a really lousy day, so why do they pay architects to draw this kind of stuff... :wallbash:

Lol, DenverDane! :laugh: something I could come up with ... :rofl:

Well, I'm aslo not concidering this a architectonical masterpiece, neither a very progresive and experimental one. But I don't find it bad at all. It's typical nordic modernim, which I don't mind at all. The flat roofs (which I know you dislike WH) seems to be used for rooftop terraces and gardens, and the appartments will be extremely light, and will have a great view. So I'm confidend that it' will turn out quite good, once build. Personally I wouldn't mind living there.

More info (in danish) and drawings can be seen at www.bornholmerparken.dk

@WH. The reason for the name is because the developer is from Bornholm...

You've got that one right, tournesol: WH simply DESPISES flattops! :rant:

Whatttt??? The developer is from Bornholm and names the place after his own headquarters???

And I guess you're right: things could have been worse; in fact, a whole lot worse! ;)

So I guess Bornholm might as well go ahead with his cubic wonders ...

What is it with contemporary European architecture?

These boxes could sit anywhere. They would be perfect, for example in The Netherlands ... Germayny would kill for those things! :D

Why are regional architectural traits being ignored, not to say downright thrown out of the window, in all new projects, no matter where? :?:rant::mad2::soapbox:

These boxes could sit anywhere. They would be perfect, for example in The Netherlands ... Germayny would kill for those things!

Why are regional architectural traits being ignored, not to say downright thrown out of the window, in all new projects, no matter where?

It may not be so very innovative, but I kinda like the design aswell, although it's a bit too massive. I don't think we should hang on to what used to be regional architectural differences in the past. The clue is to preserve those old buildings with regional characteristics, not copying them, IMO :)

Hmmm.. cant really say if I like it yet, i'll wait 'till its build, before i'll say something.
It does look a bit like a commie-block, but it IS a "skyscraper" and I dont think it will totaly ruin the Ørestad skyline.

I hope that the next projects will be a bit more interresting.

It may not be so very innovative, but I kinda like the design aswell, although it's a bit too massive. I don't think we should hang on to what used to be regional architectural differences in the past. The clue is to preserve those old buildings with regional characteristics, not copying them, IMO :)

I beg to differ. Besides, there is a vast difference between copying and building similarly. :) And it's boring to look at the same types of buildings all the way across Europe. You don't want to become like the States, do you now? ;)

I beg to differ. Besides, there is a vast difference between copying and building similarly. :) And it's boring to look at the same types of buildings all the way across Europe. You don't want to become like the States, do you now? ;)

Hmm, yeah, copy was not the right word perhaps. What I think is that some buildings that uses elements from the past often tend to look a bit "artificial". But then again there are some of these that looks okay. I think architecture, just like any other art, should reflect the present, not the past, and the new Europe is less diverse than what it was just a few decades ago.

I don't know if this type of architecture is inspired by an American way of architecture, but whether we like it or not, all of Europe is hugely influenced by American culture, as you probably know. And one type of buildings in particular that comes from the States, that all on this forum apretiate very much, is...skyscrapers! :D :cheers1:

Edit: Then again it depends on the area. I remember Gatis posted this modern-looking "barracks" that some famous architect had put up in the middle of the old town. I've seen many examples of new arhcitecture that fits to the old right next to it, but this one was far, far from it!! :)

Another (midrise)residential project to go ahead in Ørestad. The building will have 10 floors and is called Signalhuset (which means "the Signal House" - probably refering to the trafficlight colors). Located between Fields and the above mentioned Bornholmerparken.
Nothing special IMO, but this model picture is quite hard to judge so hopefully there will come some better illustration later...

http://www.nobelark.dk/ny/billeder/ungdom/byg_01.jpg

Hmm, I think they are getting rather sloppy designwise.
Bornholmerparken is OK i guess, but personally I think Signalhuset is rather ugly :(
It is fine that its 10 storeys but the design... yrk!!
Was hoping they would keep the style from Ferring, Tietgen kollegiet etc etc, but appearently not.

Was hoping they would keep the style from Ferring, Tietgen kollegiet etc etc, but appearently not.

I agree, neither bornholmparken og signalhuset looks that impressive. But in all fairness, in the first project the pic looks really bad, and the second project looks like its just a model. So alot can change, in tearms of the final look, we' ve seen that before.

You also have to consider that they are building litteraly 1000's of new apartment in the next cuopple of years, in copenhagen alone. They cant all be masterpieces. Especialy if "normal" people are going to be able to afford living there. Something thats already a problem with a lot of the new projects in copenhagen...

Plans for new district in Ørestad revealed

So far only 2 out of 4 districts in Ørestad has been under development. Now the planning for the 3rd district, Ørestad South, is starting. It has been decided to start this 2 years earlier than originally planned, because the areas zoned for residentials in the other 2 districts (North and City) is almost sold out, and there's a constantly rising demand for more housing.
The new Ørestad South will be approx. 1 million sq.meters, half of it residential, the other half commercial. It will have a population of 10.000 people. The masterplan contains buildingheight from 4 to 12 floors.

Judging from the illustration, there will be 12 towers. They seem to be very slim, which probably isn't going to be the case when the actual designs are made. I think this is more of a "trick" to make them appear more like towers and less like blocks. Apart from the fact that the towers could have been taller (and more of them) I like the plan. The skyline reminds of the dense historic center of CPH with churchspires and clocktowers rising above the rooftops.
The illustration also contains what appears to be a stadium or an arena. This is only a vision so far, and just indicates that this particular site is reserved some large puplic building.
Another thing I find positive is the contrast between dense urban areas and the surrounding nature. I prefere this instead of having the city spreading out and fading into nature. This has more of a "Central Park" feeling, with a clear urban border towards the green.

NOTICE that it's only the area infront of the arena/stadium that belongs to Ørestad South. Behind the arena is Ørestad City (with 6 20 floors towers)
http://img162.exs.cx/img162/5177/orestadsyd9oa.jpg

http://img162.exs.cx/img162/6951/orestadsyd2vm.gif

When will the construction of Ørestad South start?

When will the construction of Ørestad South start?
We will have to be a little patient. This is only the start of the planning process, so the actual selling of the building-sites will probably first go ahead maybe in 2006. So my guess is that the first constructions will start in 2007.

But untill then, we will have lots of construction going on in Ørestad City :)

Ørestaden sure is impressive :)
Btw. where did you find this news?

Thats great news! I like that they have 3-4 main streets with lots of trees. Too bad ther arent more, and taller towers, atleast in the northern area, taht would create a good center.

I hope that the big building is a stadium or a new arena, Copenhagen really needs a new, and bigger indoor arena. :)

I can see that the new area is added on the status map, over sold grounds lots here. (http://www.orestad.dk/statuskort04.04.pdf)

This is the sort of urban planning I like! :) Dense, with wide avenues with lots of trees, and nice backyards. Superb!!

Of course, a few taller towers would make it even better :okay:

Thanks for the map Kaneda. So Ørestad south is also called Vestamager?

@ Copenhagenjazz
I saw the model they have in Ørestad (The Ørestad Company is in the KLP offivebuilding at Arne Jacobsens Alle), where the new district were added. So I searched the city website (Khb kommune) and found it there...

@ Kaneda
Sure is right about the indoor arena. I think it is more likely though, that it will be build either next to Parken Stadium or next to Bella Center (also in Ørestad)

@ NorthStar77
Yes. Vestamager is actually the correct name. That's aslo the name of the metrostation next to this area. But Ørestad South makes more sense and Vestamager is a bit confusing as a name, since the overall area where Ørestad (all of it) is located also is called Vestamager.

Hello!

Any news on when they will start building stage 2 of Field's?? Just can't wait to see the final result. Or does anybody have any infomation on what the next high rise building/projekt in Ørestaden will be??

Hey Trigga, welcome to the SSC forums...hope you'll have a great time while being here! ;)
Something tells me you're danish, am I right? :D

Thanx, yes I'm danish :-)´- Just haven't edited my profile big time yet!

Welcome to the forum Trigga! Great to see a new dane here, hope you'll stick around! :)

I've heard that the nd stage of Fields will start in late 2004 or 2005, and there is also another highrise for 2005. Maybe mlm or Tournesol knows more.

Also the 12 floor V-Huset is U/C now.

Hey and welcome to the forum Trigga!

Welcome in the forum, Trigga :)

I'm affraid I can't give you much more info than you've allready seen. I haven't seen any official date for Fields stage 2 to go ahead.
And for the next highrise (if you refer to the 20 floor towers, and not the 12 floor residentials) then Ørestad House is most likely to be the next, but they are probably not going to start untill they have found tenants for atleast half of the building.
Here's the pictures of it:
http://www.nordkranen.dk/cms/public/data/images/Oerestad_House/050202_taarn.jpg

http://www.nordkranen.dk/cms/public/data/images/Oerestad_House/120202_facade.jpg

http://www.nordkranen.dk/cms/public/data/images/Oerestad_House/120202_skraafacade.jpg

Welcome to the forum Trigga :wave:

Wow, very cool with all the new towers proposed for the next Ørestad stage:) Unfortunately I can't follow it very closely right now since I don't have internet connection in my new appartment yet...Grrrr. Well, I'll be back soon:)

Hejsa.. Jeg har lige været i Fields her i mandags. Der er en kanon udsigt fra metroen må jeg sige.

Det der V.hus som er under konstruktion nu, ser meget mindre ud end jeg havde forventet. Det nogle virkelige spændende byggerier de har i gang i langs metroen.
Det squ også flot at de har brolagt vejene med granit, kanon lækkert. Ellers synes jeg det er det værd. :)

*keels over*
Mind if I drop by to see how Orestadt thread is doing? :) It's been a while since my last post here and the thread has changed quite a lot since then! Excellent pictures, wealth of information and exciting new projects, this thread has it all. Tietgenkollegiet is probably my personal favourite of all these new buildings, but not a single one of them was butt-ugly. No wonder they say that Danish architecture is probably the best in northern Europe. Keep up the good work, guys. I'll try to follow the thread more regularily in the future. :okay:

Just though I might find something new about Ørestad to keep this old thread alive:happy:

Not that I have seem much building news in a long time, but I did hear something today. They are planning a new Arena next to the Bella Center exhibition centre (which is pretty much right in the middle of Ørestaden) with a capacity of some 12.000-15.000. They will be ready with more news on this Arena proposal in a few months.

Now I just hope for some news about the five unbuilt 20 storey buildings soon, or atleast one or two of them:|

Good of you to pull this thread back up, mlm! :) Just love your new avatar btw. :cool:

What would make me at least as happy as hearing news about progress at the Oerestad site, though, would be news from tournesol. :angel1:

Yeah, that is really weird. I wrote him a private message some days ago but still no sign of him:dunno:

His last message is from May . . . does any of you have his cellphone number or email addy?

His last message is from May . . . does any of you have his cellphone number or email addy?

Nope, I never got the e-mail address. It's really strange. :|

Yeah, where did he go?
Hope he's ok.

Hi again everybody. :hi:
Sorry if I got some of you concerned. I never planned to stay away this long, otherwise I would have mentioned it.
Just a result of various circumstances, mostly though the fact that it was summer.
So - to get this thread back to business I'll be posting a Ørestad Update shortly...

Here's the latest from the Ørestad development. Still - unfortunately - without some big (tall) news,
but atleast there's quite a lot of construction activity in the 'not-so-tall' category.

Ørestad North is still the place with the most activity.
Here's the look of the 'skyline' when appoaching it from the west, under the metroline:
http://img104.exs.cx/img104/1142/orestadnordkranersept048mf.jpg

The circular Tietgen Student Residential is quite far now:
http://img104.exs.cx/img104/1518/tietgensept047gr.jpg

A pano of the whole area seen from the south. In the foreground the new koncert hall designed by Jean Nouvell is starting to go above ground.
http://img104.exs.cx/img104/1382/orenordpanosept042dx.jpg

A closer look. Tietgen behind Karen Blixen Parken:
http://img130.exs.cx/img130/5536/orenordbyggepladssept049xz.jpg


Now moving south to Ørestad City. Not that much going on at the moment, but it won't be long before it will be as busy as Ørestad North.
First a look at "M-huset". In earlier posts it has been mentioned that it was "V-huset", but it turns out that it is the smaller "M-huset" that we're seeing:
http://img130.exs.cx/img130/9632/mhus3sept044wn.jpg

http://img130.exs.cx/img130/5149/mhus1sept043si.jpg

The taller "V-huset" is also u/c, as seen in this picture in front of "M-huset"
The Ørestad Canal, with the northbound metro line standing in it, is now completed in this part.
http://img130.exs.cx/img130/1613/mhus2sept041yx.jpg

Next to the KLP building, the Parkhusene Residentials is now U/C.
http://img130.exs.cx/img130/1435/parkhusenegrund2sept044uz.jpg

http://img130.exs.cx/img130/3503/parkhusenegrundsept046yt.jpgg

Just behind it, another 12 floor residential project is soon to start...
http://img130.exs.cx/img130/7752/cityhuseneskiltsept045zg.jpg

A look along Arne Jacobsens Alle.
http://img130.exs.cx/img130/9817/arnejsallesept049mh.jpg

Finally a look from the metrostation in front of the Ferring Tower looking north.
"M-huset" to the right, and Ørestad North in the distance:
http://img130.exs.cx/img130/380/orecitystmnordsept047ds.jpg

Welcome back tournesol:wave:

Great update and photos, I just love all the cranes in Ørestad north. I was there myself about a month ago and it really looks awesome. The Karen Blixen Parken buildings have also turned out quite nice if you ask me, much better than we could expect from the renderings.

I was also sure it was "V-Huset" that was under construction, and quite surprised it isn't. But good to hear that one also is going up now:)

The man is back!!!!! Nice little update there man. I havent been out there since i moved like a month ago, and already there's changes...Its moving very fast...

You had me worried, glad you're ok, man.

Your pics of Orestadt development blew me away. The scale of it . . . it's huge. The proximity of an elevated metro line also gives the area that modern, urban look. I can only give this very scientific comment, based on my extensive empirical analysis of the development area: cool

Welcome back Tourne!
Great to see so much construction going on there and the pano with the cranes are breathtaking. Hard to believe its Denmark...
Also great to see that the new concert hall now is U/C.

Yes, welcome back, tournesol! We missed your CPH construction updates! :)

Tournesol, you're back! :hug: :banana::banana::banana: :wave:

This is just incredible news ... I had missed you! :( But now I'm happy you're back after what seems to have been a great summer for you! :)

And thanks for the great update on this booming area of CPH! :okay:

Hey tournesol, had a great summer I hope? ;)
Now that you're back I assume we're gonna be seeing a constant flow of updates from around Copenhagen? Fingers crossed nonetheless :D

Anyway, welcome back and great update!

The proximity of an elevated metro line also gives the area that modern, urban look.

Yeah i cant belive they wanna build the next stage under ground...

^ah, but building it underground leaves room above for a monorail system :D;)

NEway this thread belongs in the P&C forum, so I'm moving it...

Thanks for your warm welcoming back everyone :)

@mlm
I agree that Karen Blixen Parken seems OK in the end.
Nothing fantastic, but still OK.

@Swede
Thanks for moving it...

A small bit of news:
Yesterday to new residential projects surrounding the Ørestad Park were made puplic. This is one of them, designed be 3xNielsen (the ones with the Cirrus Tower, Helsinki)
http://www.orestad.dk/3xnielsen_210904.jpg

http://www.orestad.dk/3xnielsen_0904_281.jpg

A bit boxy but not too bad... Will that be the S building? :)

Sure looks like it from above! :)

Nice update Tournesol, gald to have you back. :)

Looks like things are moving really fast over there, its looking very good. :okay:

(New to SSC)

Maah! I wanna move to Ørestaden and see the development from first row!

Well... Will have to wait untill I get the money to move there!

Hey and welcome to SSC Horizon! :wave: Great with another dane here

(New to SSC)

Maah! I wanna move to Ørestaden and see the development from first row!

Well... Will have to wait untill I get the money to move there!


Hehe great, welcome to the SSC forums Horizon!
I hope you'll be having a good and pleasant time here, I know the rest of us are :D

Godt at se endnu en dansker, velkommen ;)

/åh nej, ännu en dansk... ;)
Great to have ya here. :)

btw - isn't Köge on the edge of the CPH metro (as in metroarea, not as in subway)?

/åh nej, ännu en dansk... ;)
Great to have ya here. :)

btw - isn't Köge on the edge of the CPH metro (as in metroarea, not as in subway)?

It is indeed ;)
The city of Koge (and Koge Bay) is located in the southern parts of Copenhagen, south of Hundige and Greve.

thx for the warm welcome on a cold september day.

gotta get a decent camera soon and take some pictures ;)

This was just on the local news tonight. Ørestadselskabet is planing to build more than 15 parking houses all over ørestad, to comply with the growing number of cars there. The 15 houses, will all be fully automatic with lifts, mening that you would park your car an ground level, and then machies will park it on the opper levels...This also means that they will be able to build in residential areas, without taking up a lot of space. Estimated price 1.5 billion kroner (200 million euros)

This was just on the local news tonight. Ørestadselskabet is planing to build more than 15 parking houses all over ørestad, to comply with the growing number of cars there. The 15 houses, will all be fully automatic with lifts, mening that you would park your car an ground level, and then machies will park it on the opper levels...This also means that they will be able to build in residential areas, without taking up a lot of space. Estimated price 1.5 billion kroner (200 million euros)


Sound very nice:) I just hope they will be nice looking ones (I guess there's a limitation of how nice a car park can look though), and nothing like you see in many large American cities. These concrete monsters can really be real eyesores:|

The deal with the parking structures is incredibly good news! :banana:

Glad to hear the new technology will be in place. :cool: Traditional parking garages are SUCH a waste of space. :down:

And yes: let's hope your architects will manage to make those parking structures look attractive! :)

I just found renderings of the parking houses (or atlest 2 of them, not really sure if they all will look like this). These are the 2 winning designs.

First one is by Henning Larsens Tegnestue, that's the same people who designed the Ferring building and the new Opera House. This one is more like a traditionel parking garage:

http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/skyscrapercity/p1.jpg


And these from KHRAS Arkitekter, these are the fully automatic ones:

http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/skyscrapercity/p2.jpg

http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/skyscrapercity/p3.jpg

http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/skyscrapercity/p4.jpg


Looks pretty good to me, specially the last ones:)

Damn, you bet me to it....That what i get for staying late at work. It looks pretty good though i agree...

Yes, it's very interesting news indeed. And 17 floors sounds good, even though its only "car-height" floors. So it will probably be about 2 meters pr. floor I guess...

If you don't mind me saying, but I think those look the nicest parking garages I've ever seen (aside from that automated car warehouse that Volkswagen has). Before reading the descriptions I thought those were office buildings.

Yes, it's very interesting news indeed. And 17 floors sounds good, even though its only "car-height" floors. So it will probably be about 2 meters pr. floor I guess...

17 floors? Damn that's a lot. But could be right:)

Best parking garages that I have ever seen. :)
Maybe even too expensive for cars? :D
And 17 floors, wow!

Yes, it's very interesting news indeed. And 17 floors sounds good, even though its only "car-height" floors. So it will probably be about 2 meters pr. floor I guess...

Where did you hear 17 floors?? Or did you just count the floors in the image?? :runaway:

Where did you hear 17 floors?? Or did you just count the floors in the image?? :runaway:
No, it was in the newspaper. I think they were quoting the press statement, so it's probably safe to believe... :)

No, it was in the newspaper. I think they were quoting the press statement, so it's probably safe to believe... :)

Yeah i've since seen it somewhere else so i guess its right... :drunk: :carrot:

I ask you to take another good look at the parking garages mlm shows us up there. :)

In the second to last picture, isn't that Swede without his favorite baseball cap? :banana:

And in the last one: what's that cheery egg-shaped American football doing there? :D

I ask you to take another good look at the parking garages mlm shows us up there. :)

In the second to last picture, isn't that Swede without his favorite baseball cap? :banana:

And in the last one: what's that cheery egg-shaped American football doing there? :D

:applause: :applause: :lol: :clown:

On the renderings the parking houses looks great, but i doubt they will be so goodlooking in reality.
Btw the parkinghouse in the last pic remind me of one of those new houses in Langelinie.

On the renderings the parking houses looks great, but i doubt they will be so goodlooking in reality.
Btw the parkinghouse in the last pic remind me of one of those new houses in Langelinie.
I'm quite optimistic about these projects, but I agree that the renderings seems a little to "chearfull". The amount of "happy streetlife" surrounding the buildings (including Swede, as WH pointed out ;) ) is far from realistic...

I'm quite optimistic about these projects, but I agree that the renderings seems a little to "chearfull". The amount of "happy streetlife" surrounding the buildings (including Swede, as WH pointed out ;) ) is far from realistic...
Yeah but almost all of the renderings we've seen from ørestaden has looked something like this. I guess thay have the same computer program... :bash:

Just a quick update on a couple of construction sites...

Parkhusene, now one floor above ground:
http://img5.exs.cx/img5/8091/d5lparkhuseneokt04.jpg

M-huset at full height and the taller V-huset now 4 floors up:
http://img5.exs.cx/img5/7935/o0yvmhuseneokt04.jpg

A pano of the many cranes at Ørestad North:
http://img5.exs.cx/img5/7281/o0uorestadnordokt04.jpg

Thank you for another update tournesol - they are greatly appreciated!
I really like the channel in the second picture. Now all we need is some really tall buildings :)

Ouch, I missed this update as well. It's getting denser:)

Personally I can't wait to see VM Husene finished, I think they'll look great.

ha, stupid me i just learned that i have a family member working as a builder in ørestaden, on the DR project....how wierd is that!

Thank you for another update tournesol - they are greatly appreciated!
I really like the channel in the second picture. Now all we need is some really tall buildings :)

Unfortunately, I don't think we'll ever see really tall buildings in Ørestad due to the proximity to the airport. Ferring is probably as tall as they'll get in that area....

@tournesol: Thanks for the update, dude!

Unfortunately, I don't think we'll ever see really tall buildings in Ørestad due to the proximity to the airport. Ferring is probably as tall as they'll get in that area....

@tournesol: Thanks for the update, dude!

I think thats kind of an urban myth, how tall you can build vs. the closeness to the airport. When they started with ørestaden thay said that there was planes for 6-8 ferring size buildings, but that there was no top limmit and that they would review hight on a case by case basis ... Of cause since then planes and highrises have gotten a different ring to it... :runaway:

I think thats kind of an urban myth, how tall you can build vs. the closeness to the airport. When they started with ørestaden thay said that there was planes for 6-8 ferring size buildings, but that there was no top limmit and that they would review hight on a case by case basis ... Of cause since then planes and highrises have gotten a different ring to it... :runaway:

I agree, I don't think it would be a problem to have some 150-200 m buildings there. Not that I think it will happen, but I belive I've read somewhere that it wouldn't conflict with the airport in any way.

I agree, I don't think it would be a problem to have some 150-200 m buildings there. Not that I think it will happen, but I belive I've read somewhere that it wouldn't conflict with the airport in any way.
True. It could be done, but probably wont be. :(
6 buildings at exactly 80 m would give a quite boring skyline. I hope they'll
let atleast one building be a little taller, to give a more dynamic skyline.

True. It could be done, but probably wont be. :(
6 buildings at exactly 80 m would give a quite boring skyline. I hope they'll
let atleast one building be a little taller, to give a more dynamic skyline.

I agree. But right now theres not even a need for the allowed projects, so if it happens, it will probeby take a while...

Time for another update on the Ørestad development.
Winter is - unfortunately - still here, so it won't be the most colorfull bluesky photos you've ever seen.
Anyway, here we go....

http://img207.exs.cx/img207/8252/parkhusenefeb20050in.jpg
In Ørestad City the first part of the Parkhusene residential building has topped out. Not the most original design I guess...

http://img165.exs.cx/img165/9892/parkhusenefuture2qd.jpg
Parkhusene when finished

http://img193.exs.cx/img193/9516/parkhusefrontfeb20055je.jpg
Just across the street - on the other side of the elevated metroline, the construction of the new Ørestad Highschool has just started.
The design is mad by 3xNielsen (The ones with Cirrus Tower in Helsinki)

http://img193.exs.cx/img193/3060/gymnasiegrundfeb20055dm.jpg
Same place, different angle.

http://img193.exs.cx/img193/5047/gymnasiegrund2feb20051gb.jpg
And again...

http://img41.exs.cx/img41/9188/orestadgymnasium8sq.jpg
Here's a rendering of the finished building


http://img193.exs.cx/img193/8855/vhusetfeb20054pw.jpg
The 12 floor V-huset. Still 3 floors to go...


Now contonuing to Ørestad North where activity still is very high:

http://img193.exs.cx/img193/5373/orestadnordfeb20057oi.jpg

http://img193.exs.cx/img193/7286/drkoncertsalfeb20058wq.jpg
The concerthall at the new national broadcasting building (DR-Byen).

http://img130.exs.cx/img130/9527/drkoncertsal2feb20055kd.jpg
Again...

http://img193.exs.cx/img193/930/drkoncertsal3feb20055si.jpg
...and again

http://img8.exs.cx/img8/5793/boligslangen1feb20059ts.jpg
A new residential building has rised since my last visit.

http://img8.exs.cx/img8/8389/boligslangen2feb20059sg.jpg
Damn... starting to snow. Faster... faster...

http://img193.exs.cx/img193/5111/tietgenfeb20056sx.jpg
A quick blury snowy look at the Tietgen Kollegium.(Student housing)

http://img193.exs.cx/img193/8681/hotelscandinavia2wg.jpg
Starting to snow a lot now, so I'll hurry down to the metrostation. Hotel Scandinavia getting hidden somewhere out there...

Wow :eek:

http://img193.exs.cx/img193/5373/orestadnordfeb20057oi.jpg

tournesol! :banana:

Thank you for the update ... just incredible! :eek:

Wow :eek:


I second that:)

Things seems to go up very fast right now. Last I heard about Parkhusene it had just started constuction and now it's topped out. DR Byen is also stating to look really cool.

Do you know what project the "new residential building" is? I can't keep track of all the residential projects any more. Maybe it's the "Boligslangen" which wil be severel diffent buildings all connected? (EDIT: I see in that URL of the photo that it is "boligslangen")

A shame we don't see equal construction of office space right now:|

Anyway, thanx for the update. I was considdering writing something here the other day just to avoid the thread of being deleted, but I didn't have anything new to write. :cheers:

A little more information about that "Boligslangen" residentail building(s).

It will consist of several buildings designed by differnet architects. But they will all be connected under the same roof. We're looking at one long building here!

The masterplan for the area:

http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/skyscrapercity/orestad/1.jpg

The first part (the one currently under construction I guess):

http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/skyscrapercity/orestad/2.jpg

First part called "Fælledhaven":

http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/skyscrapercity/orestad/3.jpg

Second part called "Universitetshaven"

http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/skyscrapercity/orestad/4.jpg

@mlm. You're right about "Fælledhaven" as the one allready far ahead. As far as I could see, also the next part "Universitetshaven" has started construction.

Oh man! I just spent the last hour and a half looking through this entire thread! and i gotta say i love it :D Fantastic work tournesol :D Thanks for the photos, the info, and all the updates :D:D:D !! :cheers: :cheers1: :cheers:

Cranes is my favorite structure! :) And photos are really amazing, i love them ;)

Thanx everyone. Glad you like'em :)

Nice update ! Reallt geart to see that things are going faster over there.

"Boligslangen" sure is an amazing project, cant wait to see the finished result! :okay:

JEg tænkte lige på, at den brune kobberbygning ved nordhavn st. Hvad betyder det der står øverst?

Nice update ! Reallt geart to see that things are going faster over there.

"Boligslangen" sure is an amazing project, cant wait to see the finished result! :okay:
I used to live out there, and used the metro from ørestad almost every day, but i moved 6 months ago...I cant believe how much it has changed in such little time...amazing...Great post, thanx for the update...

JEg tænkte lige på, at den brune kobberbygning ved nordhavn st. Hvad betyder det der står øverst?
It says "PLESNER", which is the name of the law company that occupies most of the tower.

@kaneda & cphdude
Yep, it really changes alot right now. And since the concerthall is surposed to be finished in one year, I don't think the construction speed will drop right now... :)

...About your questions, I still think Hotel Proforma is "on track". Which means nothing is happening, but it's also not cancelled. Anyway it never was very tall, same height as the KLP building nearby....

Just found this old post. Hotel Pro Forma is now officially a dead project. I was browsing the photo gallery of the Ørestad site's press section on found this under a rendering of Hotel Pro Forma:

"Tegning af Hotel Pro Forma der var planlagt bygget i Ørestad City. Projektet blev opgivet i januar 2005."

(Translation= Drawing of Hotel Pro Forma that was planned in Ørestad City. The project was dropped in January 2005).

If anyone should be interested in the other canclled building I have a rendering. It's the National Danish Archives, and it was cancelled back in 2003, just a few week before construction was to begin. Would have been a spectacular building IMO:

http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/skyscrapercity/orestad/rigsarkiv.jpg

:(

Yeah, really bad news :(

If anyone should be interested in the other canclled building I have a rendering. It's the National Danish Archives, and it was cancelled back in 2003, just a few week before construction was to begin. Would have been a spectacular building IMO:

http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/skyscrapercity/orestad/rigsarkiv.jpg

:(

Why would they cancel it??? What are the real reasons for them canceling projects like these? is it because after a while they realize they dont like them, are they too expensive to build, too TALL???? :(

I belive the reason was that is was too expensive:(

The price was somewhere near 230 million €.

I belive the reason was that is was too expensive:(

The price was somewhere near 230 million €.
yeah, price was an issue...But i wonder how much they are spending on the new project....

I agree, the building would have been great, but more then that, it would have ment alot to Ørestaden, at a time when meny companies were thinking about moving there...Now, most of them have dropped the idea, and aside from the already planed company buildings, Ørestaden is in real danger of just turning into a boring, regulated, neet, lowrise residential area...

Well, that just my oppinion... :cheers:

The site where this beauty should have been standing by now is still an open question.
It's still owned by the Ministry of Culture, but they probably wont use it. I think they're just waiting for the right byer to come by.
I just fear that the plans for a highrise here might get lost, if an investor comes arround with any kind of project, with or without a highrise!

@ Tournesol:

Do you know exactly where the site is? Course I'm not really sure.

About the site, I read they payed about 30 million € for the site alone. Quite expensive.

Jeg skulle spørgeom noget, men kan ikke huske det...

Når ja!

Tænkte på.. De der skitser eller hvad det hedder af Fields før byggeriet, er de ikke anderledes end det der er bygget i daG ?

Just found a "new" rendering of the stage 2 of Fields (on www.tkdevelopment.dk)Not really sure if this is just a impression or an actual design, but here it is anyway. Atleast I haven't seen it before:

http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/skyscrapercity/denmark/fields.jpg

Just found a "new" rendering of the stage 2 of Fields (on www.tkdevelopment.dk)Not really sure if this is just a impression or an actual design, but here it is anyway. Atleast I haven't seen it before:


Well, the design have changed over the years, but this one seams to be pretty close to something i've seen before...Now all we need is the highrise hotel at bella then we migh have something...btw, is there any time frame for stage 2 of fields...? I know they pushed that back too last year...

Just wondering, does anybody know which is bigger, Ørestad or Hammarby Sjöstad in Stockholm...? Cheers.. :cheers:

Well, the design have changed over the years, but this one seams to be pretty close to something i've seen before...Now all we need is the highrise hotel at bella then we migh have something...btw, is there any time frame for stage 2 of fields...? I know they pushed that back too last year...
Yes designwise (Not the guy;)) it looks pretty similar to some older ones. If you look at the two side by side you'll see it:

http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/skyscrapercity/denmark/fields.jpg

http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/skyscrapercity/denmark/kbh5.jpg

It just doesn't look like they are from the same time, so maybe the design is pretty much final.

The 2nd stage is known as "Field´s Four" and the developer is TK Development (http://www.tkdevelopment.dk) just like Fields itself. You can find more info on the project on their website - The site (http://www.tkdevelopment.dk/uk/html/kontorer/fields.html). I doubt there's any timeframe yet, atleast I haven't heard anything. I gues they'll start building when they have enough tenants for the offices and found an operator for the hotel.

Just wondering, does anybody know which is bigger, Ørestad or Hammarby Sjöstad in Stockholm...?
I have no idea how large Hammarby Sjöstad is, so hard to answer. There is supposed to be some 20.000 living, 20.000 studying and 60.000 working in Ørestaden when fully build.

@ Tournesol:

Do you know exactly where the site is? Course I'm not really sure.

It's just outside the top of this picture, above DR-Byen:
http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/skyscrapercity/orestad/1.jpg

Oh so it's the huge empty site just next to the metro station. I actually walked across it last time I was in Ørestaden. That site surely would have been perfect for that building.

Let's just hope they'll manage to build something else there (soon). Such a huge empty site could be a real eyesore of it's left empty for a long time. :(

Those renderings are new to me too. Nice find, mlm :)
I think it's common practise that the design changes a bit from early renderings to the final building.
Also stage 2 might change again, since the new investor - whenever they find one - will probably want to have some influence on the project...

I also don't know the size of Hammerby Sjöstad, but my guess is that Ørestad is bigger.
It's 3 million sq.meters when fully build out...!

Oh so it's the hige empty site just next to the metro station. I actually walked across it last time I was in Ørestaden. That site surely would have been perfect for that building.

Let's just hope they'll manage to build something else there (soon). Such a huge empty site could be a real eyesore of it's left empty for a long time. :(
Agreed!!!! Something tall :D

Agreed!!!! Something tall :D

Something REALLY tall! Like this one: :D

http://www.greatestcities.com/8980pic/071/CP3071.jpg/0802_2003_13.JPG

Du overdriver... Der intet stil over Sears

I have no idea how large Hammarby Sjöstad is, so hard to answer. There is supposed to be some 20.000 living, 20.000 studying and 60.000 working in Ørestaden when fully build.
That would make it significantlly bigger than Hammarby Sjöstad. Not svery surprising, considering Ørestaden even got a metro line, all HS got is a LRT (3 stop extension to "old" line).

A small update - Acording to an article in politikken today, the apartments for the W and M houses, went op for sale this week. Of the 221 apartments up for sale, 125 have been sold or reserved, and 41 are to be used for a co-op project...

A small update - Acording to an article in politikken today, the apartments for the W and M houses, went op for sale this week. Of the 221 apartments up for sale, 125 have been sold or reserved, and 41 are to be used for a co-op project...
And that's good news, 'cause it shows that there's a market for some more progresive kinds of architecture than what we usually see arround here :)

A small update:

The project formerly known as "Bornholmerparken" has been renamed "Copenhagen Golfpark" (Since there'll be a golfcourse across the street from it)
AND been redesigned - to the better in my opinion.
Here's renderings of the new design:
http://img232.exs.cx/img232/9479/cphgolfpark2ny6pu.jpg

http://img232.exs.cx/img232/2841/cphgolfpark3ny3sr.jpg

http://img232.exs.cx/img232/346/cphgolfpark1ny7rz.jpg

http://img232.exs.cx/img232/3397/cphgolfpark4ny2vn.jpg

Nice new renderings, I also think the new design is better. Though the name is a bit weird. I don't understand why it has to be in English, sounds like a hotel or a place where you play...ehhhh...Golf:D Something simple like "Golfparken" (in Danish) would have been better IMO. Anyway, that's just a name. :)

Copenhagen Golfpark looks really good. It's funny how you can enliven a somewhat boxy design simply by breaking window patterns. When it comes to apartment design, I kinda prefer boxy desing, in fact, as long as it is not too repetitive. That one's a prime example.

Not too fond of Cph Golfpak. Like mlm said, why not in Danish? and also it has a very suburban feel to me. Doesn't look like there'll be any storefronts even on the main street.

I agree with you about the name. Doesn't like it either.
And Swede, you're right about that suburban feeling. I think most part of Ørestad will have a more suburban feeling than a downtown feeling. In particulary those areas facing the golfcourse.

Here's a brand new photo of the area. The sign and the sales pavillion to the left is where CPH Golfpark is to be build.
Also notice V-huset in the background, now only 2 floors from topping out:
http://img172.exs.cx/img172/9826/orestadpark05marts1yl.jpg

There is a big article in berlingske today about the wm huses...Fun to read..

http://www.berlingske.dk/boligen/artikel:aid=554358/

In danish of couse

The design looks a lot nicer then the other one, and the name would have been a lot more convenient if it was in danish .. Who knows, maybe they'll change their mind about the name?

Today V-huset topped out.
Here's a webcam image from earlier today:
http://img200.exs.cx/img200/6852/vhuswebcam8fi.jpg

/\ nice!!

Cool massive buildings! I quite like Bornholmerparken residential building. It looks massive and has nice design.

You're doing a great job keeping this thread up to date, tournesol! :okay:

Plus, it's always such a pleasure to see you around! :banana:

V-Huset looks interesting. :) And I agree with you & mlm about that Golf place: they should say in Dansk! What was wrong with Bornholmerparken anyway? I do like the looks of the place. :cool:

Plus, it's always such a pleasure to see you around! :banana:
Most kind of you, Mylady. I'm here to serve ;)
I do like the looks of the place. :cool:
Seldom words from you when it comes to a "flat-roof" building.
But I agree, of course :)

:laugh: tournesol! You sure have me pegged down as a flat-roof hater, you're right! :D

But in this case I make an exception because the fassade shows some interesting variation, and that pleases me. :)

On the whole, though, I stick with my theory: boring buildings with flat-tops are :runaway: and should be prohibited! :banned:

UPDATE - this time only regarding Ørestad City, and not Ørestad North.

As mentioned earlier the 12 floor V-huset has topped out. The new Highschool is starting to get above ground and the project "Signalhuset"(10 floor residential) has gone U/C.

Here are the photos:

http://img223.echo.cx/img223/7299/vmhus2apr05x1ai.jpg
V-huset


http://img223.echo.cx/img223/5874/vmhus1apr05x2zd.jpg
...again


http://img223.echo.cx/img223/7673/parkhus1apr05x5fw.jpg
Parkhusene. Next to it the 12 floor Cityhusene should start soon.


http://img23.echo.cx/img23/6320/orestadgymapr05x7ea.jpg
The Highschool construction site.


http://img23.echo.cx/img23/3774/signalhussiteapr05x1ds.jpg
Here the groundworks has started for "Signalhuset"


http://www.nobelark.dk/billeder/signal/SH_1.jpg
Which will look like this when finished. Nothing special IMO...


http://img165.echo.cx/img165/412/golfparksiteapr05x9io.jpg
Here the CPH Golfpark will start construction very soon...


OK, that's all for now folks...

Thanks for the update :cheers: Btw, how much is planned to spend on this project?

Thanks for the update :cheers: Btw, how much is planned to spend on this project?
With 'this project', do you mean ALL of Ørestad? In that case I can't tell 'cos nobody knows. Since it's all split up into hundreds of individual project - many of them not even planned yet - there is no planned budget. It up to the single developer/investor to decide. However we will be talking billions of €, since all of Ørestad will contain more than 3 million m2 of floorspace!

Thanks for the pics, the area is gonna look wonderful once finished. :okay: Signalhuset's my favourite, but the V-huset looks fine too. Is this the Copenhagen's largest urban development project? If the whole thing 3 million sqrm of floorspace it's not that much smaller than all Hki metro plans combined. :dizzy: Do any of you know how much of this area is commercial?

/\ Yes it is the largest urban development, and I think 3 million m2 is quite a lot. It equals about 186 Ferring buildings, and remember that the area is not THAT big;)

@ Tournesol, thanx for the update, VM Husene is getting better and better. IMO it's by far the best residential project we've seen yet in Ørestaden.

3 mio sqm? Holly cow, that's a damn huge area :runaway:

Theres an article in Danish paper Jylands posten today, saying that the vacant lot, preveusly to be used for the national archives in ørestad, will be turned into a mixed use project with resedential and business areas, aswell as several cultural institutions. Denmarks Financeminister gave the go ahead, for the state to be involved in a work group, that is to develop the plan. The building build, should represent the best of the new and modern danish architecture (what, unlike everything else out there???) aswell as the latest tecnology, in tearms of energysavings...

They talk a lot about inovation, and expirementing with architecture and technology, but IMO it basicly sounds like a lot of cheap talk...but, at least now we have an ide of what might happen out there...

Theres an article in Danish paper Jylands posten today, saying that the vacant lot, preveusly to be used for the national archives in ørestad, will be turned into a mixed use project with resedential and business areas, aswell as several cultural institutions. Denmarks Financeminister gave the go ahead, for the state to be involved in a work group, that is to develop the plan. The building build, should represent the best of the new and modern danish architecture (what, unlike everything else out there???) aswell as the latest tecnology, in tearms of energysavings...

They talk a lot about inovation, and expirementing with architecture and technology, but IMO it basicly sounds like a lot of cheap talk...but, at least now we have an ide of what might happen out there...
Sounds very good! well, if its not just cheap talk.. if their actually going to do what they're saying they'll do.. that would be awesome! :D
cant wait to see the renderings..

O wow, and THANKS, tournesol! :okay:

I gather that, now that the weather is getting nicer, construction activity picks up. And we also get more photos from you! :)

The entire project, consisting of so many individual ones, is really impressive. :cool:

I DO like the V-huset, but for obvious reasons I'm not exactly enamored with the Parkhusene. ;)

So here's the latest update from Ørestad North...

http://img167.echo.cx/img167/8567/bikubenkollegietapril05x1mr.jpg
Construction has just started on the Bikuben Kollegium (Student housing). It's at the northernmost part of Ørestad where it meets the existing city.


http://www.orestad.dk/bikuben4.jpg
Bikuben Kollegiet when finished.



http://img246.echo.cx/img246/4051/unikanalapril05x8pn.jpg
Walking along the canal towards Tietgen Kollegiet.


http://img254.echo.cx/img254/4364/tietgen01april05x6ep.jpg
Tietgen Kollegiet soon to be finished.


http://img254.echo.cx/img254/957/tietgen02april05x3eu.jpg
The wood and copper facade of Tietgen Kollegiet. Really high quality architecture in my opinion!


http://img254.echo.cx/img254/3087/tietgen03april05x0xk.jpg
Looking between Tietgen Kollegiet and Karen Blixen Parken towards construction of Fælledhaven.


http://img254.echo.cx/img254/8419/faelledhavenapril05x3xb.jpg
A closer look at Fælledhaven. Next to it, the continuation ("Universitetshaven") has started.


http://img167.echo.cx/img167/1576/drbyen01april05x1fm.jpg
DR Byen is still a big construction site. The first of the four stages is completed, three others still U/C


http://img98.echo.cx/img98/9885/drbyen02april05x7af.jpg
The Concerthall.


http://img98.echo.cx/img98/7255/drbyen03april05x1fs.jpg
The news center.


http://img254.echo.cx/img254/9061/drbyen05april05x7rp.jpg
Concethall again.


http://img98.echo.cx/img98/6433/drbyen04april05x1zu.jpg
The completed part to the right with the black studioboxes. To the left the concerthall.
The big emty site in front of it is the former Rigsarkivet site which future now finally is starting to take shape.
Let's hope it will be a tall future... :D

Great update tournesol :okay: Thanks for the tour .. it must be really busy in Ørestad.
Its gonna be awesome to see Ørestad completely finished, i know it wont be for a few years, but still .. :D

Tietgen Kollegiet is looking really good:okay:

Thanx for yet another update. :)

cool... these kollegiet's look very nice both of them, facade of Tietgen Is awesome

cool... these kollegiet's look very nice both of them, facade of Tietgen Is awesome
I agree, looks fantastic...Great update. Btw, some time ago, they talked about the possibility of a deley of the DR-concerthall. Do you know what happend with that?

Awesome update, nice to see what's going on out there. I don't often go there myself, you know ;)

I dont remember if it was this thread but i mentioned to you people that i emailed somebody at www.orestad.dk about height restrictions (because of the airport being so close, etc) And i finally got an email back! And it doesnt look like good news :(

Dear Danny Rasmussen

Thank you for your question on hight restrictions in Orestad.

We do have height restrictions, and as you mention it's because of the airport.
Some places in the area around the Oresundsconnection it is possible to build up
to a height of 80 metres (= around 20 floors), but in Orestad South it is only
possible to build up to a height of 50 metres.

Ferring Pharmaceuticals is 80 metres high and is thereby the first building in
Orestad wich has reach the maximum height.

Hope this answered your questions. You can read more about Orestad on
www.orestad.dk where there is also an English version.

Regards

Maria Frey Fletting
Projektkoordinator, Ørestad Byliv
Ørestadsselskabet I/S
Arne Jacobsens Allé 17
2300 København S

T: 3311 1700, Td: 3367 0268, M: 2075 1729
E: mfl@orestad.dk
www.orestad.dk



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Emne:
Height Restrictions
Komentar eller spørgsmål:
Hello. I was just wondering if there were any height restrictions in Ørestad due
to the airport being so close. I would guess that there arent, because the
airport is quite a few kilometers away, also the runaway faces the opposite
direction of Ørestad, so even if there were any, the restrictions wouldnt be
that high, am i correct? Thank you for your time. (By the way, I hope you start
building more highrises/skyscrapers in Ørestad! Denmark really needs them :-)


Navn:
Danny Rasmussen
Email adresse:
DLL_4ever@hotmail.com
www.orestad.dk/thanksforyourinterest

Thanx for following up Dan;) I'm not sure if it was in this thread either, but I remember the discussion. There's not really much new though, she's basicly just saying what is in the masterplan made years ago. Though the airport part is new to me, I think she's more referring to the restrictions made a long time ago, than what could be possible.

Thanx for following up Dan;) I'm not sure if it was in this thread either, but I remember the discussion. There's not really much new though, she's basicly just saying what is in the masterplan made years ago. Though the airport part is new to me, I think she's more referring to the restrictions made a long time ago, than what could be possible.
That wierd. I was just going to post the same thing. This morning, they had an interview with the director of Dansk Arkitektur Center, about the current exchibit, and he also said that the maximum hight all over copenhagen was 80 meters, because if the airport...to bad...

/\ Why would they set height limits over ALL of Copenhagen? Thats rediculous! Look at the map here:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/DLL10101/cph.jpg
Point 1 - Kastrup Airport (approximate)
Point 2 - Ørestad city (approximate)
Now if Ørestad city's height max is 80 meters, and it is that "close" to Kastrup Airport, then why would they make the rest of Copenhagen's height maximum the same? I mean, Copenhagen is HUGE. Most of the city/metro isn't even close to the airport... This really sucks!

EDIT: What about all of the buildings in Copenhagen that are all taller than 80 meters? Like Carlsberg Hovedkontor (88m), Radisson SAS Hotel (86m), Vor Frelsers Kirke (89m), Skt Nikolajs Kirke (90m), Rådhustårnet (106m), Christiansborg (106m) ...

/\ Why would they set height limits over ALL of Copenhagen?
Now if Ørestad city's height max is 80 meters, and it is that "close" to Kastrup Airport, then why would they make the rest of Copenhagen's height maximum the same?
EDIT: What about all of the buildings in Copenhagen that are all taller than 80 meters? Like Carlsberg Hovedkontor (88m), Radisson SAS Hotel (86m), Vor Frelsers Kirke (89m), Skt Nikolajs Kirke (90m), Rådhustårnet (106m), Christiansborg (106m) ...
That i dont know. He only said that 80 meters are the limet, all over copenhagen, because of the airport...In tearms of the other buildings, well, the rule is probebly not that old, since we are talking airpost hight restriction. Meaning the churces, carlsberg HQ, and cityhall was build before any such rule was in place...

/\ just to make sure, are you talking about Copenhagen city or Copenhagen metro?

This sound very weird to me. I think we would have heard of such a resriection before if it excisted. Let me again link to this article (http://www.berlingske.dk/kobenhavn/artikel:aid=485840:fid=100100416/) on Berlingske.dk.

I actually wont belive of such a rule, it simple sounds too weird. Why on earth should a 100 m. or a 150 m. building in for example Valby be restricted because of the airport? If that was the case then pretty much all big cities on earth would have to make these kind of restriction since there are big airport close to most cities. Sounds to me like he doesn't know what he's talking about....:|

^ Yeah, I agree... He must have been talking about Ørestad only, or he doesn't know what he's talking about - or cphdude misunderstood him.. ;)

^ Yeah, I agree... He must have been talking about Ørestad only, or he doesn't know what he's talking about - or cphdude misunderstood him.. ;)
He said 80 meters in Copenhagen...Because if the airport. Now i dont know if he was talking about the city or the metro or what...And he is the director of Dansk Arkitektur Center, so i think he knows what he is talking about. Ill try and see if i can find the clip...

tallinn main airport is 3 km from the cluster :D a km away from it is planned another cluster .. should we restrict? Airport regulations, its mostly bollocks nimbys juggle!

...And he is the director of Dansk Arkitektur Center, so i think he knows what he is talking about.If he in fact do know what he's talking about (which I strongly doubt) then I'm sure one of us had seen it somewhere (unless it's totally new, but then we would have read about it on the news). Also, if such a restriction is there then why does the official sources (kbh kommune) not mention it. They are afterall the ones that would make such a rule, had it excisted. I've been looking at tons of materplans, localplans etc for the last 3 years or so, and never seen this.

Restricting building heighs to 80 m. in all of Copenhagen because of the airport would be totally nonsense, and I don't belive such a rule excist one bit. Then he can be director all he wants....

If he in fact do know what he's talking about (which I strongly doubt) then I'm sure one of us had seen it somewhere (unless it's totally new, but then we would have read about it on the news). Also, if such a restriction is there then why does the official sources (kbh kommune) not mention it. They are afterall the ones that would make such a rule, had it excisted. I've been looking at tons of materplans, localplans etc for the last 3 years or so, and never seen this.

Restricting building heighs to 80 m. in all of Copenhagen because of the airport would be totally nonsense, and I don't belive such a rule excist one bit. Then he can be director all he wants....
Like i said, i dont know if he also ment the metro area, but i doubt that he was only talking about the inner city, since they also dont wanne build there. And i guess he could have ment ørestaden, but thats not what he said...Anyways, i think you can find the clip, if you sign on at sputnik with tv2...

That's just plain stupid. Why make height restrictions in all of Copenhagen because of the airport :weird: Sounds more like those stupid 'Københavnere mod malplacerede højhuse' than actual rules

/\ exactly ... if there was a 80m height limit, then it must be because of another reason.. it cant be because of the airport.. it just doesnt make sense..

Isn't this 80 m limit just something referring to the area around Ørestad station, and Ørestad south? And could it have something to do with the airport radars, or other sensors, rather than any fear of a plane hitting a building? Just speculating...

Regards,
Kristoffer Mogensen

Isn't this 80 m limit just something referring to the area around Ørestad station, and Ørestad south? And could it have something to do with the airport radars, or other sensors, rather than any fear of a plane hitting a building? Just speculating...

Regards,
Kristoffer Mogensen

It could very well be so Kristoffer, however, I am unable to answer your question.
Welcome to the SSC forums though, always a pleasure when someone from Scandinavia/Baltics joins. ;)

They've started a debate at Berlingske.dk about the future of Copenhagen, and about what should happen in the next 15 years. Quite a lot of them are actually in favour of more highrises. They want Copenhagen to have a skyline, I couldn't agree more.

Join the debate (http://www.berlingske.dk/kobenhavn/tema:fid=100100668/?&gbidx=57) It's in Danish

(I know this is the Ørestad thread, but right now we're talking about building tall, so I though it would fit in here ;) )

/\ nice! :D Thanks for the link!

I personally think that the reason is that there are very high security standards at CPH. A plane doesn't just need the area right in front of the runway, but also space to the sides, in order to navigate, if another plane is suddenly shows up or in case of engine problems or what have you...

Just what I'm thinking, though I don't know it for sure...

/\ But Copenhagen is such a big city.. An airplane really doesnt need all that room to land ... maybe it just needs Amager to be low, but not all of Copenhagen... Theres simply no point or reason... There are so many other buildings/towers that are way taller than 80 meters .. thats why it doesnt make sense ..

/\ But Copenhagen is such a big city.. An airplane really doesnt need all that room to land ... maybe it just needs Amager to be low, but not all of Copenhagen... Theres simply no point or reason... There are so many other buildings/towers that are way taller than 80 meters .. thats why it doesnt make sense ..
I dont wanna get you hopes up guys, but i found something you need to see. We have be talking about hight restriction on Ørestad, being so close to the Airport. It you go to this thread http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=193083 Which is about Canary Wharf i London, you can see thay talk about it too, as Canary Wharfn is pretty close to London City Airport. Now one guy, from London, and with like 8000 posts, claim that there is a hight limet....And is 240 meters!!! 240 METERS?? Shit. Now i know that London City Airport is not as big as CPH Airport, but it does has international flights...So i guess maybe the hight limit in Ørestad could change, atleast in theory...Anyways, just wanted to mention it...I have PM the guy to get some more answers, so dont bombart him with PM's ...

/\ That's what I've been saying all the time, 80 m height limit can't be because of the airport (though some say they are). It just isn't logic. 80 m is nothing.

Some nice photos from the airport: Here (http://www.airliners.net/open.file/714595/L/),here (http://www.airliners.net/open.file/712759/L/) and here (http://www.airliners.net/open.file/347521/L/). As you can see the runway is even pretty much in direction of CW, while the ones in copenhagen aren't in direction of Ørestad City.

/\ That's what I've been saying all the time, 80 m height limit can't be because of the airport (though some say they are). It just isn't logic. 80 m is nothing.

Some nice photos from the airport: Here (http://www.airliners.net/open.file/714595/L/),here (http://www.airliners.net/open.file/712759/L/) and here (http://www.airliners.net/open.file/347521/L/). As you can see the runway is even pretty much in direction of CW, while the ones in copenhagen aren't in direction of Ørestad City.
I think it was DLL who wrote them an e-mail i which they said it was 80 meters because of the airport...Maybe the planes landing there are just smaller, and the airport certainly is smaller...But i do think it looks very close to the warf...Looks a bit scary. And Ørestaden is that close to the airport...Maybe they just dont know anything, or they are working on rules that are old...

Yes he did, and other people has been saying it too (that "crazy" guy from Dansk Arkitektur Center etc.). There is just no logic to it at all...

the latest from the orestad website -

Boligprojekt med masser af design i Ørestad
Ørestads nyeste boligprojekt hedder Porthuset - et projekt der består af 165 lejligheder, og som bliver bygget i det næste halvandet år. Det, der gør dette projekt helt specielt, er, at alle lejligheder er proppet med lækkert design fra starten. Philippe Starck kommer til at præge badeværelserne, Bulthaup udgør køkkenet, og dørgreb er designet af Jasper Morrison, og Gaggenau er valgt til de hårde hvidevarer. Det er Anders Moesgaard og Peter Aandal, der har udviklet projektet, og de har fra starten satset på design og kvalitet. Lejlighederne skal bygges i Ørestad City tæt på Fields og Bella Center. Der bliver tale om en karrébebyggelse på 14.000 kvm. til en værdi af 200 mio. kr.. Lejlighederne bliver på mellem 54 og 140 kvm. og priser fra 1,3 mio. til 4 mio. kroner. Byggestart er i august eller september, og det er Carsten Holgaard Arkitekter Aps, der har tegnet byggeriet.

^^^Yep, several new projects has been announced lately. Still no renderings of this Porthuset-project, but it sounds promissing.
One new 12-floorer just startet construction about a week ago.
Here are a rendering of it. Not really very exiting I'm affraid:
http://www.pension.dk/images/fotoarkiv/facadetegning_stor.jpg

I hope it turns out better in real life...
This project still hasn't got an official name. It's in the northwest corner of the Ørestad City Park.

Ok, it's better than nothing, but I still have some dreams:

First, I want a 200 m skyscraper approved (not proposed) somewhere, maybe Islands Brygge, that would make for a lovely waterfront (200 m of several reasons 1) To get skyscraper development kickstarted and 2) To beat the Turning Torso, sorry Sweden, awesome building, but hey :D)

Then, afterwards, people will realise that skyscrapers aren't that bad afterall (Look at TT, everyone loves it) and skyscraper demand will skyrocket in Copenhagen, and we will finally get a decent skyline.

But meh, that's just me dreaming

^
^
That project is a huge letdown compared to usual high quality of Danish buildings. At least the window pattern is broken, so it's not as monotonous as it would be otherwise.

^
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That project is a huge letdown compared to usual high quality of Danish buildings. At least the window pattern is broken, so it's not as monotonous as it would be otherwise.

Second that. Dannieblocks? :D But seriously, I've seen worse.

A new localplan for Ørestad South have been revealed, and it will soon go into public hearing. There are some very interesting things in it. They have added a few more towers than in the original masterplan for all of Ørestad. There will be allowed five 80 m towers in Ørestad S. and eleven smaller tower'ish buildings of 50 m each (Making the number of allowed 80 m buildings in Ørestaden 9). The weren't going to plan this before 2006 but because of big demand they have started now. Some renderings from the localplan (again, the designs are not final, just some visualisations of how it could look!!!):

(all from Københavns Kommune (http://www.kk.dk))
The area in 2004:
http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/skyscrapercity/orestad/south/1.jpg

And the plan:
http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/skyscrapercity/orestad/south/2.jpg

http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/skyscrapercity/orestad/south/3.jpg

http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/skyscrapercity/orestad/south/4.jpg

The "tower'ish" 50 m buildings:
http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/skyscrapercity/orestad/south/5.jpg

You can see the plan right here: Part 1 (http://www2.kk.dk/of/dagsorden.nsf/2157c8d4f87ddc77c125684800469ed1/c081ccff3dbb7a7bc1257018004e5bc4/$FILE/_2jlp6asrkc5i20krpcgg76_.%201-29.pdf) and Part 2 (http://www2.kk.dk/of/dagsorden.nsf/2157c8d4f87ddc77c125684800469ed1/2133b174ece2e697c1257018004e5c49/$FILE/_2jlp6asrkc5i20krpcgg76_.%2030-72.pdf) (Danish only)

It also looks like there will be quite a lot of shops at ground level in the lower part of the plan, which should give it much more life than if it was just "all residential". :)

Today some new info for the Ørestad South masterplan came out. According to the Ørestad website the area will get 5 80m towers and 11 50m towers. However some of the 80m towers were allready shown in the Ørestad City plans, so it doesn't mean 5 new 20 floorer. However this brings the total number of expected 20 floorer up to 9 towers. (4 to the north of the motorway, 5 to the south)
I'll try to find some illustrations...


Edit: OK, mlm, you won this round... :)

/\ Beat you by 6 minutes;)

^^^Damn :D ;)

wow ! ;) this is awesome, although, heigh difference is very important, or the skyline will be blockish :(!

http://www.mikaellykmadsen.dk/skyscrapercity/orestad/south/4.jpg
This looks pretty nice ... although it would look A LOT nicer with a few more taller buildings around it :D

Another 12 floorer soon to start construction next to the Ørestad City Park.

http://img35.echo.cx/img35/2621/orestadhusetlille9za.jpg

http://img35.echo.cx/img35/409/orestadhuset2zl.jpg

Cool Tournesol, I like this one better than the PensionDanmark building. I have updated my All New Danish Highrises (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=2285807) thread, maybe you could check if I got all the Ørestad projects? I'm having a hard time following all the new proposals right now. :)

Two 12 floor project is still missing, but I haven't posted them here either since there really isn't any good drawings to be found anywhere.
Only a small sample of the facade is shown of one of them here (http://www.orestad.dk/investering/solgt/boliger_orestad/almene_boliger_26.htm) , on the Ørestad website...
The other project is this (http://www.orestad.dk/investering/solgt/boliger_orestad/kuben.htm) one, but the design probably isn't ready yet.

EDIT: the last one has a design, but it turns out only to be 11 floors.

/\ That's what I've been saying all the time, 80 m height limit can't be because of the airport (though some say they are). It just isn't logic. 80 m is nothing.


Another pic from berlingske, more ditails, dont know if we have this one....http://www.berlingske.dk/upload/webred/grafikker/2005/Juni/orestad.gif

BTW, got an answer from the guy about hight limits at CW in london, and it is about 250 meters. But as you can see from the news today, 80 meters seams to be the Danish limmits...I also think that about what we can afford...Its pretty expensive building that tall...

BTW, i just found some more pics from the V and M houses from plot, also from the inside, on this website...http://www.byggeri.dk/maned/05-06/

Here's a rendering of that 11 floorer I mentioned in my last post:

http://img194.echo.cx/img194/2050/kubenorestad8um.jpg