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drivensteven
August 31st, 2007, 05:38 PM
The 3D renderings are for Two Serendra. :)

gen1
September 1st, 2007, 04:42 AM
Dang, I hope they bring one serendra HOA fees to less than P100. I estimated it to be no higher than P100. I'd lose face to my wife if it turns out my projections were wrong :)

The nearby International School reportedly spends PhP1M/month on water bills. Comparable ba ang size ng lawns nila at ng serendra?

lawns are noted water hogs ! and FB is noted for its ridiculously high water rates !

nayki
September 1st, 2007, 07:39 AM
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/nayki_22/On%20the%20rise/aston_bldg_bimg.jpg?

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http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/nayki_22/On%20the%20rise/aston_map.jpg?t=1188625290

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/nayki_22/On%20the%20rise/aston_sitedev.jpg?t=1188625316

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Location: Fort Bonifacio, Global City
Landmarks: Right accross MARKET MARKET MALL,
5 minutes drive to Makati Business Centers
Price Ranges: PhP 3.2 to 8.2 Million (subject to change w/out prior notice)
Status: NEWLY LAUNCHED PROJECT, PRE-SELLING
Turn Over: 2012
Availability: Tower 1 Now Selling avail Prime Units
Type of Units: Flat, Single Level
Size: 42 - 161 in square meter
Bedrooms: 1, 2, 3
Bathrooms: 1, 2
No. of Floors: 35-storey
No. Tower/s: 3
Developer: Ayala Premiere Land Inc

Project Concept


There are FOUR rise sections each with with a special story to tell.
The Landscape design of Two Serendra phase III is intended to unify the different themed zones under the concept -- THE WATER GARDEN
The expansive swimming pools are the centerpiece of the landscape -- meeting the recreational needs of the residents while at the same time providing a lush atmosphere for the whole development.

Features & Amenities:
River boat
Tree house
Hanging bridge
Splash pool
Forest walkway
Jogging trails
Open Lawn
Day care center
Video game room
Juice or snack bar
Play area
Mini Theater
Unit Mix:
Studio (110 units) Sizes Available: 42-54 sqm
1-Bedroom (111 units) Sizes Available: 55-69 sqm
2-Bedroom (122 units) Sizes Available: 82-135 sqm
3-Bedroom (55 units) Sizes Available: 105-152 sqm
Special 3 Bedroom (2 units) Sizes Available: 160-161 sqm
Total 400 Units

Unit Features:
kitchen systems
telephone line per unit
intercom system
catv system
provision for multi-point water heating system at T&B, except maid's T&B
provision for air conditioning units (window and split type)
provision for washer/spin dryer drainage stub-outs
closets for bedrooms
walk-in closet in master's bedroom for 2,3 and 4bedroom units
utility/maid's area for 2 and 3 bedroom units
maids area with t&b for 3bedroom units
individual metering for water,electricity and gas
area provision for laundry/drying
area provision for pocket garden at balcony
Indicative Pricing (Subject to change without prior notice.
Studio 3.2M up
One bedrooms 4.2M up
Two bedrooms 6.4M up
Three bedrooms 8.2M up

STUDIO
Floor Area: 42 to 54 SQM.
Price Range: Php 3.2 to PHP 4.6 M

1 BEDROOM
Floor Area: 55 to 69 SQM.
Price Range: 4.2 to PHP 5.5 M

2 BEDROOM
Floor Area: 82 to 135 SQM.
Price Range: 7.5 to PHP 9.1 M

3 BEDROOM
Floor Area: 105 to 152 SQM.
Price Range: 9.4 to PHP 10.9 M

Special 3 BEDROOM (Bi-level)
Floor Area: 160 to 161 SQM.
Price Range: 14.2 to PHP 14.3 M

RESERVATION: PHP 50,000.00
Prices exclusive of VAT
Parking Slot @ PHP 675,000.00 to 1,000,000.00 (tandem)

tafftrader
September 2nd, 2007, 04:22 AM
Interestingly, a 3 bed penthouse 220sqm is being offered for rent at 160k per month. At this price it proves to be a good investment for those who bought early.

anone
September 2nd, 2007, 08:16 AM
STUDIO
Floor Area: 42 to 54 SQM.
Price Range: Php 3.2 to PHP 4.6 M

1 BEDROOM
Floor Area: 55 to 69 SQM.
Price Range: 4.2 to PHP 5.5 M

2 BEDROOM
Floor Area: 82 to 135 SQM.
Price Range: 7.5 to PHP 9.1 M

3 BEDROOM
Floor Area: 105 to 152 SQM.
Price Range: 9.4 to PHP 10.9 M

Special 3 BEDROOM (Bi-level)
Floor Area: 160 to 161 SQM.
Price Range: 14.2 to PHP 14.3 M

RESERVATION: PHP 50,000.00
Prices exclusive of VAT
Parking Slot @ PHP 675,000.00 to 1,000,000.00 (tandem)


Floor plans please. Thank you:)

drivensteven
September 2nd, 2007, 08:50 AM
Floor plans please. Thank you:)

Single, did you read my private message already? Anyways, what's your YM Id? Thanks :)

TheRick
September 2nd, 2007, 08:56 AM
Indicative Pricing (Subject to change without prior notice.
Studio 3.2M up
One bedrooms 4.2M up
Two bedrooms 6.4M up
Three bedrooms 8.2M up

STUDIO
Floor Area: 42 to 54 SQM.
Price Range: Php 3.2 to PHP 4.6 M

1 BEDROOM
Floor Area: 55 to 69 SQM.
Price Range: 4.2 to PHP 5.5 M

2 BEDROOM
Floor Area: 82 to 135 SQM.
Price Range: 7.5 to PHP 9.1 M

3 BEDROOM
Floor Area: 105 to 152 SQM.
Price Range: 9.4 to PHP 10.9 M

Special 3 BEDROOM (Bi-level)
Floor Area: 160 to 161 SQM.
Price Range: 14.2 to PHP 14.3 M

RESERVATION: PHP 50,000.00
Prices exclusive of VAT
Parking Slot @ PHP 675,000.00 to 1,000,000.00 (tandem)

So does this mean Aston Serendra starts lower than the current selling price of One Serendra?

These are good prices then. I thought they will be starting at around P100k per sq.m.

bartman
September 2nd, 2007, 03:16 PM
So does this mean Aston Serendra starts lower than the current selling price of One Serendra?

These are good prices then. I thought they will be starting at around P100k per sq.m.

current selling price of one serendra?

Cropduster
September 2nd, 2007, 05:41 PM
Aston is part of Two Serendra isn't it? So it would be cheaper than One Serendra.

The special 3br has a nice floor plan.

laquacherra
September 3rd, 2007, 03:39 AM
So does this mean Aston Serendra starts lower than the current selling price of One Serendra?

These are good prices then. I thought they will be starting at around P100k per sq.m.



Aston is part of Two Serendra. IMO, those prices were more or less the range of prices of similar sized units at One Serendra about 2 yrs ago except that at One Serendra the price already included the parking slots

pebbles
September 3rd, 2007, 06:51 PM
So does this mean Aston Serendra starts lower than the current selling price of One Serendra?

These are good prices then. I thought they will be starting at around P100k per sq.m.

If I apply correctly the lessons I learned from my finance classes during college years, a comparison of prices between a condo available now and that available say 5 years from now is not really that straightforward - there is the issue of 'opportunity cost' when buying pre-selling (a condo turned over now can be rented out to generate income); and because of this it is perhaps not surprising to see that condos sold for future delivery would be priced cheaper (ie discounted) that those that are now available for turnover.

portludlow
September 3rd, 2007, 09:02 PM
^^ ahh....I see what you are saying....but I guess "opportunity costs" cuts both ways. Pre-selling condos in the Philippines is unlike any other. where the financial risks is tilted to the buyer. Buying it in cash or getting those 2 year no interest plans makes the developer a winner. They use your money to work for them but you dont get anything in return until they deliver.

If you buy a $100.000 condo in cash delivered in 3 years, the "opportunity costs" you incur is staggering....lets say the $100,000 is invested in a decent mutual fund earning 10% including dividends then you will end up $30K-$40K ahead without worrying if your condo will be delivered in time or not. The good news is most people here bought early, they not only were able to ride the boom but also have favorable exhange rate if they sell.

ameks
September 3rd, 2007, 09:39 PM
Aston is part of Two Serendra isn't it? So it would be cheaper than One Serendra.

The special 3br has a nice floor plan.

Given the same size units, would the unit at Two Serendra be lower than a unit at One Serendra? Why is that?

ameks
September 3rd, 2007, 11:47 PM
Does anyone know if the facilities i..e pools, playgrounds, basketball courts, etc. are all shareable between the residents of Serendra One and Two? Also, would there be one or separate Homeowners association between Serendra One and Two?

bartman
September 4th, 2007, 01:30 AM
Given the same size units, would the unit at Two Serendra be lower than a unit at One Serendra? Why is that?

Does anyone know if the facilities i..e pools, playgrounds, basketball courts, etc. are all shareable between the residents of Serendra One and Two? Also, would there be one or separate Homeowners association between Serendra One and Two?

material and finishes of 2 serendra are inferior to that of one serandra's. one serendra also has more and better amenities and facilities. at least that's the way it's supposed to be. you can see the differences if you compare specs between the two developments.

no, facilities are NOT designed to be shared between 1 and 2 serendra, unless of course you're an invited guest. there will be separate HOAs and separate maintenance providers as well.

ameks
September 4th, 2007, 02:46 AM
material and finishes of 2 serendra are inferior to that of one serandra's. one serendra also has more and better amenities and facilities. at least that's the way it's supposed to be. you can see the differences if you compare specs between the two developments.

no, facilities are NOT designed to be shared between 1 and 2 serendra, unless of course you're an invited guest. there will be separate HOAs and separate maintenance providers as well.

Thanks for the reply Bartman. It's a shame. I would've preferred to see all the facilities shared between all of the Serendras, low rise, mid-rise and high-rise. After all, there is only one serendra community so why put barriers among the residents.

bartman
September 4th, 2007, 03:08 AM
Thanks for the reply Bartman. It's a shame. I would've preferred to see all the facilities shared between all of the Serendras, low rise, mid-rise and high-rise. After all, there is only one serendra community so why put barriers among the residents.

you just have to keep in mind that although they share the same "serendra" name, they are two distinct developments targeted at different markets. there is a certain degree of exclusivity with one serendra. it's less dense population-wise, with better amenities and facilities. owners paid more, and rightfully should get more.

if you subscribe to a serendra community having no barriers, couldn't the same logic be used for say the whole fbgc community? where does one draw the line?

ameks
September 4th, 2007, 03:24 AM
you just have to keep in mind that although they share the same "serendra" name, they are two distinct developments targeted at different markets. there is a certain degree of exclusivity with one serendra. it's less dense population-wise, with better amenities and facilities. owners paid more, and rightfully should get more.

if you subscribe to a serendra community having no barriers, couldn't the same logic be used for say the whole fbgc community? where does one draw the line?

What is the target market of Serendra1 compared to the target market of Serendra 2? I've compared the unit prices between the 2 serendras and I did not find much price difference. They're both projects of Ayala and to be managed by Ayala. I don't think its practical to share the facilities with the entire bgc community - just at Serendra, for the reasons I just mentioned.

laquacherra
September 4th, 2007, 03:35 AM
^^ One Serendra is an Ayala Land Premier development. Two Serendra is a Community Innovations Inc development. For complete info on the differences of the target markets of these two Ayala subsidiaries I suggest you check Ayala Land's website

bartman
September 4th, 2007, 03:46 AM
lauren, available na ang cable TV?
meron na naman daw fumigation. see you next month :)

laquacherra
September 4th, 2007, 03:51 AM
lauren, available na ang cable TV?
meron na naman daw fumigation. see you next month :)


i dunno about the cable... la pa akong tv :lol:

as for fumigation, yup... looks like it's done once a month :okay:

see ya soon, Bart! :)

ameks
September 4th, 2007, 04:13 AM
^^ One Serendra is an Ayala Land Premier development. Two Serendra is a Community Innovations Inc development. For complete info on the differences of the target markets of these two Ayala subsidiaries I suggest you check Ayala Land's website

I have checked the sites of Ayala land Premier, Community Innovations and Avida. Not much info in there to shed light on their different serendra markets. Just thought that since you folks have been the main stalwarts on this thread, that you'll be able to enlighten us newbies on this forum. I'm really being very objective and open minded about all this - sort of in a data gathering mode at the moment.

laquacherra
September 4th, 2007, 04:27 AM
I have checked the sites of Ayala land Premier, Community Innovations and Avida. Not much info in there to shed light on their different serendra markets. Just thought that since you folks have been the main stalwarts on this thread, that you'll be able to enlighten us newbies on this forum. I'm really being very objective and open minded about all this - sort of in a data gathering mode at the moment.


have you been to the serendra sales pavilion? IMO the model units of both developments will somehow give you an idea on their differences as well as their similarities. better yet, if you can get property specialists from both ALP & CII to let you visit the sites and see for yourself

ameks
September 4th, 2007, 04:54 AM
have you been to the serendra sales pavilion? IMO the model units of both developments will somehow give you an idea on their differences as well as their similarities. better yet, if you can get property specialists from both ALP & CII to let you visit the sites and see for yourself

A little problamatic since I'm from NY. This is the reason why I'm trying to be as informed as I can before my visit early next year, hopefully to do a purchase.

ameks
September 4th, 2007, 05:00 AM
I find this forum very informative since most of the contributors have real experiences supporting their opinions. Most are bgc owners, locals who are in tune with the hearbeat of the area and are factual and unpretentious and just really want to share infos, which proves invaluable for expats like myself.

laquacherra
September 4th, 2007, 05:22 AM
^^ aside from differences in the quality of the finishes and bigger unit sizes, One Serendra has a lower density (ALP claims it's the lowest density in BGC) - less people sharing the amenities; we've a roughly 30+ units to an elevator ratio; we've 100% power back-up... among others. But our HOA is expected to be higher per sqm.

Dvorak
September 4th, 2007, 07:05 AM
when you say 100% power backup Lauren, does it mean all electric outlets in the unit??

^^ aside from differences in the quality of the finishes and bigger unit sizes, One Serendra has a lower density (ALP claims it's the lowest density in BGC) - less people sharing the amenities; we've a roughly 30+ units to an elevator ratio; we've 100% power back-up... among others. But our HOA is expected to be higher per sqm.

laquacherra
September 4th, 2007, 09:53 AM
^^ well, according to their handbook it's 100% power back-up for common areas and all residential units... if that doesn't mean all the outlets then they can't & shouldn't claim "100% power back-up" IMO

Dvorak
September 4th, 2007, 10:52 AM
i doubt if it's all outlet.. yes it's 100% backup.. but probably just for a couple of outlets... imagine if all tenants will use all their aircon.. the genset wouldn't handle that.. pero malay nga natin kung totoo.. just keep us posted.

laquacherra
September 4th, 2007, 11:06 AM
i doubt if it's all outlet.. yes it's 100% backup.. but probably just for a couple of outlets... imagine if all tenants will use all their aircon.. the genset wouldn't handle that.. pero malay nga natin kung totoo.. just keep us posted.


as opposed to Two Serendra's "standby generators"... what do you think? the same difference? :nuts: :lol:

ameks
September 4th, 2007, 03:27 PM
i doubt if it's all outlet.. yes it's 100% backup.. but probably just for a couple of outlets... imagine if all tenants will use all their aircon.. the genset wouldn't handle that.. pero malay nga natin kung totoo.. just keep us posted.

From my experience, 100% backup does not mean providing power to all the outlets within a residence. They normally provide only 1 outlet with power, usually the refrigerator outlet. This still allows the builder to comply with the 100% backup provision they advertise.

ameks
September 4th, 2007, 03:38 PM
as opposed to Two Serendra's "standby generators"... what do you think? the same difference? :nuts: :lol:

I believe the standby generators is the mechanism by which they provide the backup power. The generators are hooked up to the main power line, monitors the fluctuation in power and kicks in when the power dips below a certain level for a certain amount of time. But I heard that Ayala has its own power grid supplying Serendra. So the setup could be different although highly unlikely.

ameks
September 4th, 2007, 03:40 PM
^^ aside from differences in the quality of the finishes and bigger unit sizes, One Serendra has a lower density (ALP claims it's the lowest density in BGC) - less people sharing the amenities; we've a roughly 30+ units to an elevator ratio; we've 100% power back-up... among others. But our HOA is expected to be higher per sqm.

Thanks. These are the under-the-cover info you normally don't get from talking to a sales person.

bartman
September 4th, 2007, 05:05 PM
From my experience, 100% backup does not mean providing power to all the outlets within a residence. They normally provide only 1 outlet with power, usually the refrigerator outlet. This still allows the builder to comply with the 100% backup provision they advertise.

I believe the standby generators is the mechanism by which they provide the backup power. The generators are hooked up to the main power line, monitors the fluctuation in power and kicks in when the power dips below a certain level for a certain amount of time. But I heard that Ayala has its own power grid supplying Serendra. So the setup could be different although highly unlikely.

you previously asked for the differences between 1 and 2 serendra. well, this is one of the main differences:

one serendra: 100% power backup
two serendra: standby generators

talking to the reps, what i was told is that the setup will guarrantee one serendra NOT to experience brownouts while two serendra can have them.

lauren, if you have the time, check with arnold to discuss this issue. if not, i'll talk to him when i get back next month.

bartman
September 4th, 2007, 05:11 PM
@ameks - i'm actually puzzled by your questions and a little confused. you had previously posted this:

Thanks for the Welcome Mat Gasrock. I did just purchased a unit at two Serendra. My unit won't be ready until 2010 ( I think there's a huge hole right now where my unit is supposed to be).

yet the other day you posted:
A little problamatic since I'm from NY. This is the reason why I'm trying to be as informed as I can before my visit early next year, hopefully to do a purchase.


well? if you haven't made a purchase, the differences between 1 and 2 serendra aren't really important since 1 serendra is sold out. the price difference between the two you've seen previously advertised also isn't accurate anymore. you either buy a unit at 2 serendra (as advertised), and get what you pay for; or are you're considering purchasing a 1 serendra unit on the resell market?

ameks
September 4th, 2007, 05:23 PM
@ameks - i'm actually puzzled by your questions and a little confused. you had previously posted this:



yet the other day you posted:


well?

I also thought it was a done deal after weeks of processing. Unfortunately, since I was not willing to provide a lot of personal/financial information long-distance, the deal did not go through. I plan to go in person next year and do the purchase using a different payment plan and provide the necessary requirements in person.

ameks
September 4th, 2007, 05:30 PM
@ameks - i'm actually puzzled by your questions and a little confused. you had previously posted this:



yet the other day you posted:


well? if you haven't made a purchase, the differences between 1 and 2 serendra aren't really important since 1 serendra is sold out. the price difference between the two you've seen previously advertised also isn't accurate anymore. you either buy a unit at 2 serendra (as advertised), and get what you pay for; or are you're considering purchasing a 1 serendra unit on the resell market?

You're absolutely correct about the dynamics of the pricing. That's the reason why I'm educating myself on the other areas now ie. amentities, finishings. Sad to say, I did not do enough due diligence last time around. I have my eyes on Serendra. And if the right opportunity presents itself, I'd either purchase at 2 Serendra or a resell at 1 Serendra.

bartman
September 4th, 2007, 06:51 PM
You're absolutely correct about the dynamics of the pricing. That's the reason why I'm educating myself on the other areas now ie. amentities, finishings. Sad to say, I did not do enough due diligence last time around. I have my eyes on Serendra. And if the right opportunity presents itself, I'd either purchase at 2 Serendra or a resell at 1 Serendra.

great! be advised: word has it that the current asking price for 1BR (approximately 70sqm) One Serendra resell is around P8.5M - P9M.

ameks
September 4th, 2007, 07:59 PM
great! be advised: word has it that the current asking price for 1BR (approximately 70sqm) One Serendra resell is around P8.5M - P9M.

Holy Mother of ...!! And with the Peso to Dollar exchange rate, that becomes a double whammy :bash: . This is what another forumer mentioned as the opportunity cost and the cost of borrowing money. Well, sad to say, this has always been the story of my life. Bartman, thanks for the warning. I'll make sure I bring all my heart pills when I go home.

OilMover
September 4th, 2007, 08:12 PM
Holy Mother of ...!! And with the Peso to Dollar exchange rate, that becomes a double whammy :bash: . This is what another forumer mentioned as the opportunity cost and the cost of borrowing money. Well, sad to say, this has always been the story of my life. Bartman, thanks for the warning. I'll make sure I bring all my heart pills when I go home.

Cynch, on her blog, posted on Aug 17 that 2BR and 3BR units are still available in One Serendra-Section E. You should check her blog out.

ameks
September 4th, 2007, 09:48 PM
Cynch, on her blog, posted on Aug 17 that 2BR and 3BR units are still available in One Serendra-Section E. You should check her blog out.

Thanks, I will do that. I'm sure if any units are still available at 1 Serendra, the prices will reflect today's appreciated market prices. I've now resigned myself for more surprises and disappointments as I delve deeper into this.

arnolds
September 5th, 2007, 01:12 AM
great! be advised: word has it that the current asking price for 1BR (approximately 70sqm) One Serendra resell is around P8.5M - P9M.

I think you have to be careful with these numbers. I was shopping around for a one serendra 1 bdroom unit a while back and although many sellers are asking for 8 to 9m, when it gets down to negotiations, the actual price is closer to 7M to 7.5m. I decided to pass up a deal at 130K usd because I have too much invested already in the PI market (Westgrove and Rockwell). For many who are buying for permanence residency/retirement, Serendra is an awesome deal. For investment purposes, flipping scenario, the taxes and fees really take a big bite out of your profits.

twinstar633
September 5th, 2007, 03:01 AM
I echo the comment on the usefulness of this forum. When I checked out Serendra previously, the differences between One and Two Serendra were not very apparent. To be fair, I also did not ask the question outright.

On 100% power backup, I know people who experienced this in existing Rockwell and Ayala properties (e.g. 6750) during typhoon Milenyo. And yes, apart from a split second flicker when the power switches over from Meralco to generator, it is virtually uninterrupted. No difference to Meralco. You can do full blast aircon in every room should you wish to do so. I believe most condos only offer standby generator, so to have this feature will be a definite premium.

laquacherra
September 5th, 2007, 03:04 AM
I think you have to be careful with these numbers. I was shopping around for a one serendra 1 bdroom unit a while back and although many sellers are asking for 8 to 9m, when it gets down to negotiations, the actual price is closer to 7M to 7.5m. I decided to pass up a deal at 130K usd because I have too much invested already in the PI market (Westgrove and Rockwell). For many who are buying for permanence residency/retirement, Serendra is an awesome deal. For investment purposes, flipping scenario, the taxes and fees really take a big bite out of your profits.


that's true for most real estate investments in the PI... normally, you pay 12%VAT when you purchase - though some developments have their ways around it like selling at below 2M or via the popular BTO/BYO... but, you certainly won't be able to get away from paying the capital gains tax, transfer tax, doc stamps etc... when you sell the property.

IMO it's not very accurate to compare prices of 1BRs without also mentioning the size of the unit bec 1 BRs at One serendra range from about 65 to 85... there's over 1M difference in the price

OilMover
September 5th, 2007, 03:35 AM
that's true for most real estate investments in the PI... normally, you pay 12%VAT when you purchase - though some developments have their ways around it like selling at below 2M or via the popular BTO/BYO... but, you certainly won't be able to get away from paying the capital gains tax, transfer tax, doc stamps etc... when you sell the property.

IMO it's not very accurate to compare prices of 1BRs without also mentioning the size of the unit bec 1 BRs at One serendra range from about 65 to 85... there's at least 1M difference in the price

Very true! One has to compare apples and apples. I really love the 3br unit in one serendra. It has a family room, a tub in the master's bath and 2 parking slots. It is nearly twice the sqm of my 3br in two serendra, and correspondingly, it cost twice as much. It's a good thing palawan is only an hour away.... just in case I suffer from cabin fever.

bartman
September 5th, 2007, 07:02 AM
I think you have to be careful with these numbers. I was shopping around for a one serendra 1 bdroom unit a while back and although many sellers are asking for 8 to 9m, when it gets down to negotiations, the actual price is closer to 7M to 7.5m. I decided to pass up a deal at 130K usd because I have too much invested already in the PI market (Westgrove and Rockwell). For many who are buying for permanence residency/retirement, Serendra is an awesome deal. For investment purposes, flipping scenario, the taxes and fees really take a big bite out of your profits.
be careful for what? i was very clear to caution ameks that the prices i mentioned were asking prices. :ohno: but please indulge me; when was "a while back"? you see, a reliable realtor quoted those figures to me a month ago while also realizing that only less than 6 months earlier, the selling price for like units was P7.5M.

personally, if people sell for more or less, that's really not my concern.

bartman
September 5th, 2007, 07:06 AM
Very true! One has to compare apples and apples. I really love the 3br unit in one serendra. It has a family room, a tub in the master's bath and 2 parking slots. It is nearly twice the sqm of my 3br in two serendra, and correspondingly, it cost twice as much. It's a good thing palawan is only an hour away.... just in case I suffer from cabin fever.

that's the attitude! for the most part, a dive in anilao does it for me. :)

laquacherra
September 5th, 2007, 07:22 AM
you previously asked for the differences between 1 and 2 serendra. well, this is one of the main differences:

one serendra: 100% power backup
two serendra: standby generators

talking to the reps, what i was told is that the setup will guarrantee one serendra NOT to experience brownouts while two serendra can have them.

lauren, if you have the time, check with arnold to discuss this issue. if not, i'll talk to him when i get back next month.


i just did. he assured me it's 100% power back up... and that includes the ACs, fridge, oven, lights, etc...

bartman
September 5th, 2007, 07:25 AM
i just did. he assured me it's 100% power back up... and that includes the ACs, fridge, oven, lights, etc...

that's what i thought! :)
did you say hello to the gang for me?

laquacherra
September 5th, 2007, 07:30 AM
that's what i thought! :)
did you say hello to the gang for me?



oops! i'll do that next time :colgate:

bartman
September 5th, 2007, 07:59 AM
oops! i'll do that next time :colgate:

ok, sige hayaan mo, pag balik ko next month, treat kita ng lunch or dinner sa market2 :lol:

laquacherra
September 5th, 2007, 08:14 AM
^^ right! :p :lol: :lol:

arnolds
September 5th, 2007, 08:19 AM
that's true for most real estate investments in the PI... normally, you pay 12%VAT when you purchase - though some developments have their ways around it like selling at below 2M or via the popular BTO/BYO... but, you certainly won't be able to get away from paying the capital gains tax, transfer tax, doc stamps etc... when you sell the property.

IMO it's not very accurate to compare prices of 1BRs without also mentioning the size of the unit bec 1 BRs at One serendra range from about 65 to 85... there's over 1M difference in the price

A while back meaning 3 weeks ago to me. For comparison purposes, the 130K usd unit is in One SerendraSection B, turnover Dec 2007, 66sq meter including 6 sq meter balcony and parking slot.

arnolds
September 5th, 2007, 08:22 AM
be careful for what? i was very clear to caution ameks that the prices i mentioned were asking prices. :ohno: but please indulge me; when was "a while back"? you see, a reliable realtor quoted those figures to me a month ago while also realizing that only less than 6 months earlier, the selling price for like units was P7.5M.

personally, if people sell for more or less, that's really not my concern.


A while back meaning 3 weeks ago to me. For comparison purposes, the 130K usd unit is in One SerendraSection B, turnover Dec 2007, 66sq meter including 6 sq meter balcony and parking slot. If anybody is interested in pursuing this unit, I can put you in touch with the seller. Just PM me.

shufatid
September 5th, 2007, 08:26 AM
Look at this site:

http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/26689/Special+3-BR+Unit+@+One+Serendra

Scroll down, and you will see that 1-BR units advertise for Php 6.2 to 10.60 million. However, I really believe that the resale is towards the high end of this price ranges.

arnolds
September 5th, 2007, 08:44 AM
Look at this site:

http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/26689/Special+3-BR+Unit+@+One+Serendra

Scroll down, and you will see that 1-BR units advertise for Php 6.2 to 10.60 million. However, I really believe that the resale is towards the high end of this price ranges.

I think that advertisement is for pre-selling units.

For resales, go to craigslist and buyandsell.ph. Also, the expat newspapers in the Philippines are good sources of resale of high end condos and houses.

gen1
September 5th, 2007, 08:48 AM
wasn't it three weeks ago that the stock market went on a freefall ?

maybe the seller was hit bad, panicked, and now has to sell.

shufatid
September 5th, 2007, 08:48 AM
^^ Arnold, if those are pre-selling prices, then the resale should be much higher?!?

gen1
September 5th, 2007, 09:30 AM
how do the concrete ceilings of the one serendra units look like ?

Are they smooth enough to be let alone or did you guys have to install a drop ceiling ?

tnx .

laquacherra
September 5th, 2007, 10:37 AM
^^ the ceiling of the foyer, hallway, living/dining areas, bedrooms & WIC are textured... i don't know what it's called though (orange peel? :dunno:)... it's kinda like a super rough sand paper & grainy(?).

for the bathrooms, it's smooth dropped ceiling. in the maids/utility room it's open.

arnolds
September 5th, 2007, 12:51 PM
^^ Arnold, if those are pre-selling prices, then the resale should be much higher?!?

I'm just thinking since the ad says VAT not included, it would likely be a pre-selling. As I understood it VAT is only collectible on a re-sale if the unit is owned by a corporation and not an individual. This is on top of the cap gains, doc stamp fee and other junk fees associated with transferring a real property title in the Philippines.

Dvorak
September 5th, 2007, 01:14 PM
you also pay for VAT for brand new units (not just on re-sale)..

I'm just thinking since the ad says VAT not included, it would likely be a pre-selling. As I understood it VAT is only collectible on a re-sale if the unit is owned by a corporation and not an individual. This is on top of the cap gains, doc stamp fee and other junk fees associated with transferring a real property title in the Philippines.

icel
September 5th, 2007, 05:02 PM
I think you have to be careful with these numbers. I was shopping around for a one serendra 1 bdroom unit a while back and although many sellers are asking for 8 to 9m, when it gets down to negotiations, the actual price is closer to 7M to 7.5m. I decided to pass up a deal at 130K usd because I have too much invested already in the PI market (Westgrove and Rockwell). For many who are buying for permanence residency/retirement, Serendra is an awesome deal. For investment purposes, flipping scenario, the taxes and fees really take a big bite out of your profits.


If you're getting a pre-selling unit, price will definitely be the same regardless of the property specialist assisting you.

there are differences sometimes because some sellers use the "list price", while some use the "all-in" price, which includes the VAT and other charges (government charges), which makes the all-in price much higher, with VAT alone at 12% of the price.


oh, and to re-confirm for those asking.. one serendra offers 100% power backup, meaning when everyone's experiencing power failure, you go on with your life as if nothing's wrong with the metro. hehehe.


and for those who are interested to get a unit at one serendra, there are still available 2br, special 2br, and 3rd units still. sold out lang ang 1br. next section for one serendra to be launched soon, before 2007 end i hope.

hope these infos helped. :D

gen1
September 6th, 2007, 08:38 AM
^^ the ceiling of the foyer, hallway, living/dining areas, bedrooms & WIC are textured... i don't know what it's called though (orange peel? :dunno:)... it's kinda like a super rough sand paper & grainy(?).

for the bathrooms, it's smooth dropped ceiling. in the maids/utility room it's open.

ok. tnx for the info. drop ceiling it is :) (at least for the living room)

ameks
September 6th, 2007, 07:31 PM
Does anyone have an idea on how much it will cost (material and labor) to have hard wood floors installed throughout a typical 1 bedroom at Serendra (65m2) excluding the bathroom?

Dvorak
September 7th, 2007, 04:35 AM
diba wood na ang floor nang One Serendra?

Does anyone have an idea on how much it will cost (material and labor) to have hard wood floors installed throughout a typical 1 bedroom at Serendra (65m2) excluding the bathroom?

laquacherra
September 7th, 2007, 05:13 AM
diba wood na ang floor nang One Serendra?


yup, narra

theOCdiva
September 7th, 2007, 05:43 AM
Hope you had a great Labor Day holiday (US side) and an un-LaborDay holiday (non-US-side) :nuts:

Got three QQQs. Are these available (as standards or upgrades) from Serendra (Ayala and/or CI):
1. data line - hard-wired for the internet - this is hard to install, methinks
2. waste food disposal in kitchen sink - this is easy to install, methinks
3. electric wall outlets taking in 110v and/or 220v gadgets/appliances?

Also, are there 'IKEA-like' stores found locally?

Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.

I've read people are throwing parties at the onset of their unit closings. I'd be there if I could, rats! Just want to say congrats to all those lucky few! These parties will come in waves, at each delivery turn-over times of each project. Hope one of these days we could all have the one mega-party. Exciting times lie ahead!

Keep cool, y'all! Luv and peace. :)

ameks
September 7th, 2007, 06:07 AM
diba wood na ang floor nang One Serendra?

I heard that 2 Serendra has parquet or laminate flooring.

Dvorak
September 7th, 2007, 07:20 AM
even 1 Serendra, it has parquet narra floor.

If you want a to replace that with hard wood, do you mean this one?

http://www.floorboards.com/images/howtoimages/engineeredwoodfloors.gif

it will cost anywhere from 2T to 4T per sqm, plus the cost of removing the narra parquet

I heard that 2 Serendra has parquet or laminate flooring.

Mitch_Rivera
September 7th, 2007, 07:48 AM
Hi ameks :D
Two Serendra (A,B,C,D) has narra wood parquet for the flooring. We'll update you as soon as we get official confirmation if floorings will be changed into laminates for future sections. :D


Hi OCDiva how are you :D
1. data line - hard-wired for the internet is hard to install, yes, that's why in Sections ABCDE for both One and Two Serendra this is not provided; what's there are only provisions for cable internet on residential areas and wi-fi on commercial;

2. waste food disposal in kitchen sink - yup, easy to install, Boni Ridge has this but with One Serendra they're still deliberating if these are going to be included, atleast on 2, 3 and special 3 bedroom units, Two Serendra won't have it;


3. electric wall outlets taking in 110v and/or 220v gadgets/appliances? - All across Serendra (all Sections of both One and Two Serendra) will only accommodate 220v outlets. Building safety standards and codes dictate that installing 110v is already prohibited in the Phils.


Also, are there 'IKEA-like' stores found locally?
Ehm, pardon for my ignorance po, but what do we mean by IKEA-like stores?

Regards :wave:



Hi Dvorak :wave:
Yes po it is still wood but according to the recent briefings we had recently, all ALP projects (One Serendra, The Residences at Greenbelt, etc.) will already have engineered wood for the flooring as standard instead of jumbo-cut narra wood parquet. This will apply for One Serendra units which are not yet turned over by 2007 but for Sections A and some in B, wood parquet remains.

Dvorak
September 7th, 2007, 07:58 AM
meron sa Boni Ridge?? hmmm wala yata.. you have to install it pa.. parang provision lang.. or yun na yun?? yung parang box sa ilalim nang sink?

Hi ameks :D

2. waste food disposal in kitchen sink - yup, easy to install, Boni Ridge has this but with One Serendra they're still deliberating if these are going to be included, atleast on 2, 3 and special 3 bedroom units, Two Serendra won't have it;

laquacherra
September 7th, 2007, 08:03 AM
meron sa Boni Ridge?? hmmm wala yata.. you have to install it pa.. parang provision lang.. or yun na yun?? yung parang box sa ilalim nang sink?



isn't the stainless steel box under the sink a grease catcher?

Dvorak
September 7th, 2007, 08:04 AM
yan nga alam ko lauren..

kaya wala akong nakikitang food disposal don sa Boni Ridge.

isn't the stainless steel box under the sink is a grease catcher

Dvorak
September 7th, 2007, 08:05 AM
OT: speaking of Boni Ridge, first HOA meeting sa saturday don.. election yata nang officers.. sana umattend si claudine! hahaha

laquacherra
September 7th, 2007, 08:06 AM
Also, are there 'IKEA-like' stores found locally?


nope, not that i know of.

laquacherra
September 7th, 2007, 08:10 AM
2. waste food disposal in kitchen sink - with One Serendra they're still deliberating if these are going to be included, atleast on 2, 3 and special 3 bedroom units.


nada in section A

3cr
September 7th, 2007, 09:17 AM
Serendra / High Street night pics courtesy of Basti...
Bonifacio High Street

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q179/asph80/highstreet1.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q179/asph80/highstreet2.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q179/asph80/highstreet3.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q179/asph80/highstreet4.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q179/asph80/highstreet5.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q179/asph80/highstreet6.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q179/asph80/highstreet7.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q179/asph80/highstreet8.jpg

3cr
September 7th, 2007, 09:32 AM
High Street (day pics) courtesy of Dxpsycho...

Photos from cfpaderan (http://www.flickr.com/photos/11389539@N05/)

Bonifacio High Street

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1298/1199706718_839b8dc40e_o.jpg
Water Feature

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1153/1199707976_b77a87feea_o.jpg
Artisan trellis

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1339/1199695934_8ce46cc1a4_o.jpg
Water Feature

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1245/1199700394_2183facfcc_o.jpg
Play pod

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1015/1256804667_8ef6bf6144_o.jpg
Fully booked

Mitch_Rivera
September 7th, 2007, 10:30 AM
yan nga alam ko lauren..

kaya wala akong nakikitang food disposal don sa Boni Ridge.



Hmmm...that's weird. I was shown a bare unit with a garbage disposal thing under the sink. I'll check again. :)

ameks
September 7th, 2007, 01:58 PM
even 1 Serendra, it has parquet narra floor.

If you want a to replace that with hard wood, do you mean this one?

http://www.floorboards.com/images/howtoimages/engineeredwoodfloors.gif

it will cost anywhere from 2T to 4T per sqm, plus the cost of removing the narra parquet

Yup - that's what I meant. Sounds like the cost for hard wood (material/labor) is comparable here in the US. Thanks for the info.

theOCdiva
September 8th, 2007, 01:25 AM
Yo all!
Very interesting feedback and comments, thanks to all.
Love and thanks for the beautiful pictures, too~!:)
More Qs...:)

Hi ameks :D
Two Serendra (A,B,C,D) has narra wood parquet for the flooring. We'll update you as soon as we get official confirmation if floorings will be changed into laminates for future sections. :D


Hi OCDiva how are you :D
1. data line - hard-wired for the internet is hard to install, yes, that's why in Sections ABCDE for both One and Two Serendra this is not provided; what's there are only provisions for cable internet on residential areas and wi-fi on commercial;

Does this mean each res. unit will have cable hard-wired (fiber-optic, I read from BGC underground infrastructure, aeons ago)?

2. waste food disposal in kitchen sink - yup, easy to install, Boni Ridge has this but with One Serendra they're still deliberating if these are going to be included, atleast on 2, 3 and special 3 bedroom units, Two Serendra won't have it;

Samples of:

http://www.samstores.com/Store.asp?CtgID=322


Can one get one locally?


3. electric wall outlets taking in 110v and/or 220v gadgets/appliances? - All across Serendra (all Sections of both One and Two Serendra) will only accommodate 220v outlets. Building safety standards and codes dictate that installing 110v is already prohibited in the Phils.

Meaning then, all gadgets need to be bought locally, including hair dryers!:nuts:


Also, are there 'IKEA-like' stores found locally?
Ehm, pardon for my ignorance po, but what do we mean by IKEA-like stores?

Regards :wave:

mega-stores for home stuff for the budget-conscious: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS228US229&q=ikea&btnG=Search


Thanks again, Mitch et al.

gen1
September 8th, 2007, 02:06 AM
Hi ameks :D

2. waste food disposal in kitchen sink - yup, easy to install, Boni Ridge has this but with One Serendra they're still deliberating if these are going to be included, atleast on 2, 3 and special 3 bedroom units, Two Serendra won't have it;



Do they have provision for this in Section b and c of One serendra ?

the food disposal unit is easy to install but only if the provisions for the electrical connections have been done.

the electrical code requires to have a switch location that would let you see the disposal in operation while turning the switch on.

gen1
September 8th, 2007, 02:12 AM
even 1 Serendra, it has parquet narra floor.

If you want a to replace that with hard wood, do you mean this one?

http://www.floorboards.com/images/howtoimages/engineeredwoodfloors.gif

it will cost anywhere from 2T to 4T per sqm, plus the cost of removing the narra parquet

I'd go for narra parquet over engineered wood. natural wood if the workmanship is very good, looks much better than engineered wood.

by the reports of serendran-SSCers on how meticulous the Quality Control was regarding the floor finish, I'd say the narra parquet should look fab :)

bartman
September 8th, 2007, 03:28 AM
3. electric wall outlets taking in 110v and/or 220v gadgets/appliances? - All across Serendra (all Sections of both One and Two Serendra) will only accommodate 220v outlets. Building safety standards and codes dictate that installing 110v is already prohibited in the Phils.

Meaning then, all gadgets need to be bought locally, including hair dryers!

NOT necessarily; you can use transformers

bartman
September 8th, 2007, 03:30 AM
I'd go for narra parquet over engineered wood. natural wood if the workmanship is very good, looks much better than engineered wood.

by the reports of serendran-SSCers on how meticulous the Quality Control was regarding the floor finish, I'd say the narra parquet should look fab :)

i don't find the narra parquet "fab" looking :(

ameks
September 8th, 2007, 04:16 AM
NOT necessarily; you can use transformers

Note also that a lot of the newer and smaller electronic gadgets/appliances are 110v/200v capable.

bustero
September 8th, 2007, 04:20 AM
My sentiments. ALI work is generally good quality but not top spec depending on the project. There's a substantial premium for the brand! That being sad you can replace the narra parquet with narra planks which can be cheaper than imported engineered wood. Is the parquet there the small one or the big one?

gen1
September 8th, 2007, 04:36 AM
^^ i don't think there would be be narra plank flooring available here. the hardwood is very difficult to source (if not illegal) so usually off cuts lang ang available, hence pang parquet lang. It is also very expensive (over a hundred bucks per board foot)

Matimco has good planking available, from 4-6" width made from lauan wood.

laquacherra
September 8th, 2007, 05:16 AM
My sentiments. ALI work is generally good quality but not top spec depending on the project. There's a substantial premium for the brand! That being sad you can replace the narra parquet with narra planks which can be cheaper than imported engineered wood. Is the parquet there the small one or the big one?



each piece of narra is 4" x 12"

ameks
September 8th, 2007, 05:28 AM
[QUOTE=gen1;15247334]^^ i don't think there would be be narra plank flooring available here. the hardwood is very difficult to source (if not illegal) so usually off cuts lang ang available, hence pang parquet lang. It is also very expensive (over a hundred bucks per board foot)

I personally would prefer engineered plank flooring than narra parquet. The look of engineered wood is hardly distinguishable from the real hardwood and you can also re-sand them I believe for one time, after years of use have taken its toll.

laquacherra
September 8th, 2007, 06:40 AM
IMO, it's different strokes for different folks :) unlike Bart, i like my floor. the usual finish upon turnover is dark reddish bec it is waxed but i told them to hold the wax bec i was having it polysealed... now it's not as dark as the waxed floor BUT i like it this way :)

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i37/llaurenversion3/floor-1.jpg

OilMover
September 8th, 2007, 06:44 AM
i don't find the narra parquet "fab" looking :(

For those of you who have already moved in, what's the one thing (or things)that you would like to change in your unit? And, how much do-it-yourself work are you allowed to do in your own unit? Do you need the HOA's permission? Obviously you don't want any Norm Abrams wannabee jeopardizing our safety.

laquacherra
September 8th, 2007, 06:52 AM
For those of you who have already moved in, what's the one thing (or things)that you would like to change in your unit? And, how much do-it-yourself work are you allowed to do in your own unit? Do you need the HOA's permission? Obviously you don't want any Norm Abrams wannabee jeopardizing our safety.


yes, you have to inform admin every time you're having something done. there are more requirements for major renovations which will take over 2 weeks to complete (bonds etc...). your contractor will have to submit plans to admin for approval.

gen1
September 8th, 2007, 07:29 AM
I personally would prefer engineered plank flooring than narra parquet. The look of engineered wood is hardly distinguishable from the real hardwood and you can also re-sand them I believe for one time, after years of use have taken its toll.

Can you re-sand them ? It's usually made of a very thin slice of hardwood veneer laminated to a backing of MDF or similar wood fiber product. The factory application of polyurethane based sealers make the finish very durable.

If it is sanded you'll might penetrate the veneer and expose the fiberboard.

These floors are usually a bit cheaper than true hardwood floors (except, of course, hardwood floors installed by the hole-in-the-wall contractors lining edsa near caloocan :)).

theOCdiva
September 8th, 2007, 08:54 AM
IMO, it's different strokes for different folks :) unlike Bart, i like my floor. the usual finish upon turnover is dark reddish bec it is waxed but i told them to hold the wax bec i was having it polysealed... now it's not as dark as the waxed floor BUT i like it this way :)

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i37/llaurenversion3/floor-1.jpg

Nice floors, girl! Luv it! What kind of wood do you have? Is that narra? I thought it is a protected wood under gov't control?

Usually real hardwood floors have long warranties; ours currently has 25 years: http://www.brazilianhardwood.com/
It's Brazilian Cherry 'Jotoba', with dark reddish rich color! What I really wanted was 'antiqued' or recycled wood but the cost was (and still is) exorbitant!

Do they have bamboo floorings out there? Real ones, or engineered? How about Pergo floors or similar? We (hubby, mostly, I did the spacers:) ) installed Pergo floors on our prev. house. They now have cool colors and they're almost real-looking wood. You have to 'randomize' the patterns so that it looks natural. Otherwise, one might notice the 'sameness' of the planks :) but its supposed to last 'almost forever'.

Note also that a lot of the newer and smaller electronic gadgets/appliances are 110v/200v capable.

That's true, esp. for mobile gadgets. But for major appliances, I'll probably opt for local goods to keep warranties in effect. In case the mfr'er blames the defect on the adapters/converters! :lol:

ameks
September 8th, 2007, 04:44 PM
IMO, it's different strokes for different folks :) unlike Bart, i like my floor. the usual finish upon turnover is dark reddish bec it is waxed but i told them to hold the wax bec i was having it polysealed... now it's not as dark as the waxed floor BUT i like it this way :)

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i37/llaurenversion3/floor-1.jpg

Those are beautiful floors. If that's what ALP installs in the units, I'll be perfectly happy with those. The floorings I saw in some of the photos were dark w/unappealing designs, square in dimension, a throw back from a couple of decades back. I guess the real test is to physically see the materials to be used and decide thereafter.

ameks
September 8th, 2007, 04:49 PM
Can you re-sand them ? It's usually made of a very thin slice of hardwood veneer laminated to a backing of MDF or similar wood fiber product. The factory application of polyurethane based sealers make the finish very durable.

If it is sanded you'll might penetrate the veneer and expose the fiberboard.

These floors are usually a bit cheaper than true hardwood floors (except, of course, hardwood floors installed by the hole-in-the-wall contractors lining edsa near caloocan :)).

The flooring people I talked to said that engineered woods are actually hardwood floors with fiberboard as its base. Thus you can sand them only once since that thins out the hardwood part quite a bit and won't allow for a second sanding.

ameks
September 8th, 2007, 04:52 PM
I also read that bamboo floors are gaining in popularity and not in the protected list. Does anyone have the rundown on those?

Cropduster
September 8th, 2007, 07:30 PM
I have seen samples of bamboo flooring planks (in the UK) and it looks very impressive, you can have a variety of different finishes. Its very hard also.

I would say it is more environmentally friendly as it is a grass and not a tree.

From google..

http://www.china-manufacturer-directory.com/picture/engineered-bamboo-flooring.jpg

http://www.bambooflooringcompany.com/

gen1
September 9th, 2007, 02:24 AM
IMO, it's different strokes for different folks :) unlike Bart, i like my floor. the usual finish upon turnover is dark reddish bec it is waxed but i told them to hold the wax bec i was having it polysealed... now it's not as dark as the waxed floor BUT i like it this way :)

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i37/llaurenversion3/floor-1.jpg

medyo iba-iba lang ang hues/shades ng kulay ng kahoy.

but that can be solved by bleaching the wood prior to staining and varnishing.

how ere you able to tell ALI to hold the waxing of the floor?

bartman
September 9th, 2007, 04:53 AM
medyo iba-iba lang ang hues/shades ng kulay ng kahoy.

but that can be solved by bleaching the wood prior to staining and varnishing.

how ere you able to tell ALI to hold the waxing of the floor?

you tell them as soon as possible. hopefully before they wax it :)

laquacherra
September 10th, 2007, 04:32 AM
you tell them as soon as possible. hopefully before they wax it :)


yup, that's what i did :)


medyo iba-iba lang ang hues/shades ng kulay ng kahoy.

but that can be solved by bleaching the wood prior to staining and varnishing.

how ere you able to tell ALI to hold the waxing of the floor?



it isn't as bad as it looks... that's just the result of the reflection of the flash bouncing off the shiny floor :colgate:

3cr
September 11th, 2007, 05:08 AM
Just wondering when will Ayala start construction of Serendra's Aston Highrise residence?

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/nayki_22/On%20the%20rise/aston_bldg_bimg.jpg?

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/nayki_22/On%20the%20rise/aston_bldg3.jpg?t=1188625660

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/nayki_22/On%20the%20rise/aston_bldg.jpg?t=1188625606

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/nayki_22/On%20the%20rise/aston_map.jpg?t=1188625290

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/nayki_22/On%20the%20rise/aston_topview_openspace_garden.jpg?t=1188625343

Location: Fort Bonifacio, Global City
Landmarks: Right accross MARKET MARKET MALL,
5 minutes drive to Makati Business Centers
Price Ranges: PhP 3.2 to 8.2 Million (subject to change w/out prior notice)
Status: NEWLY LAUNCHED PROJECT, PRE-SELLING
Turn Over: 2012
Availability: Tower 1 Now Selling avail Prime Units
Type of Units: Flat, Single Level
Size: 42 - 161 in square meter
Bedrooms: 1, 2, 3
Bathrooms: 1, 2
No. of Floors: 35-storey
No. Tower/s: 3
Developer: Ayala Premiere Land Inc

Project Concept


There are FOUR rise sections each with with a special story to tell.
The Landscape design of Two Serendra phase III is intended to unify the different themed zones under the concept -- THE WATER GARDEN
The expansive swimming pools are the centerpiece of the landscape -- meeting the recreational needs of the residents while at the same time providing a lush atmosphere for the whole development.

Features & Amenities:
River boat
Tree house
Hanging bridge
Splash pool
Forest walkway
Jogging trails
Open Lawn
Day care center
Video game room
Juice or snack bar
Play area
Mini Theater

traveljunkie
September 11th, 2007, 05:01 PM
Hi, I'm new here. I'm interested in a one bedroom unit in the building next to Aston. Someone told me that the launch will be this October or November. I would like to know which is easily rented? Is it the studio? The one bedroom? Or the two bedroom? Is it better to get a unit in the lower floors (for example, 1st floor to 8th floor?) Or in the upper floors (example, 15th floor onwards). Does anyone know the name of the building next to the Aston. I would appreciate any info. Sorry if my Qs are kinda silly but I'm buying the unit for investment purposes. Thanks!

ofw_cebu
September 11th, 2007, 05:05 PM
Hi, I'm new here. I'm interested in a one bedroom unit in the building next to Aston. Someone told me that the launch will be this October or November. I would like to know which is easily rented? Is it the studio? The one bedroom? Or the two bedroom? Is it better to get a unit in the lower floors (for example, 1st floor to 8th floor?) Or in the upper floors (example, 15th floor onwards). Does anyone know the name of the building next to the Aston. I would appreciate any info. Sorry if my Qs are kinda silly but I'm buying the unit for investment purposes. Thanks!

visit http://www.realestatemovers.com/ and contact cynch, she can help you...Good luck...

gen1
September 12th, 2007, 01:17 AM
Depends on who you plan on renting it to. Expats usually like two or three Bedroom flats.

A teaching couple from the intl school is given a housing allowance of 100K.

realtor_manila
September 12th, 2007, 05:28 AM
Hi, I'm new here. I'm interested in a one bedroom unit in the building next to Aston. Someone told me that the launch will be this October or November. I would like to know which is easily rented? Is it the studio? The one bedroom? Or the two bedroom? Is it better to get a unit in the lower floors (for example, 1st floor to 8th floor?) Or in the upper floors (example, 15th floor onwards). Does anyone know the name of the building next to the Aston. I would appreciate any info. Sorry if my Qs are kinda silly but I'm buying the unit for investment purposes. Thanks!

Hello!

There are still several units available at the Aston. There is still no formal announcement with regard to the launching date of the next tower.

Which units are easily rented out ? In my experience, they are the 1-BR and 2-BR units.

Low or upper floors will be fine; but personally as an investment (ie, purpose is rental income), I'd rather go for the low up to the mid-floors.

I sent you a PM.

theOCdiva
September 16th, 2007, 10:10 AM
Depends on who you plan on renting it to. Expats usually like two or three Bedroom flats.

A teaching couple from the intl school is given a housing allowance of 100K.

Hi Gen1!

Just curious, is the PHP100K housing allowance given monthly?

Thanks.

gen1
September 16th, 2007, 01:58 PM
yup. and the kids get free ISM education (easily $10-20k/child).

I think the allowance has increased a bit, but am not really sure.

laquacherra
September 17th, 2007, 04:32 AM
A distinctive condo living experience

CONDOMINIUMS used to be a claustrophobic’s worst nightmare: tight, utilitarian spaces encased in drab monochrome buildings made greyer by the city smog and bleaker by the crowded surroundings. At least that was the case until a new generation of innovative condos dared to break the box, and begged us all to reconsider condo living. Serendra is one such innovative garden residential condo development smack right in the middle of the burgeoning Bonifacio Global City business district and all around lifestyle magnet Bonifacio High Street.

The distinctive, revolutionary condo living experience is even more pronounced at the spacious One Serendra, Ayala Land Premier’s development within the Serendra master plan. It could be said that One Serendra provides the best living experience in Bonifacio Global City to match the freedom of movement and laidback leisure lifestyle of the currently popular Bonifacio High Street. Barely four years since its launch, One Serendra is setting society tails wagging with the recent turnover of units in its first phase.

“Ayala Land Premier saw an unfulfilled product niche in the market — a residential condominium development within a prime city location such as Bonifacio Global City, but offering the convenience and benefits of a spacious suburban home, such as greenery and open space,” said Ayala Land Premier head Bobby Dy.

Ayala Land Premier, Ayala Land, Inc.’s (ALI) response to prime real estate development, carries ALI’s reputation for building high-end residential villages such as Ayala Alabang in the South, and Forbes Park, Dasmarińas and San Lorenzo and the One Roxas Triangle condominium all in Makati City.

One Serendra’s architecture fuses European master planning — preferring low to midrise sprawling structures — with the Filipino bahay-na-bato design, highly suitable tropical weather with its natural ventilation, open air balconies and lanais. Its master plan called for lush tropical gardens which also double as interactive amenities. Most of all, One Serendra provides the distinctive premier living experience with its spaciousness and low-density environment. In the range of condominiums available in the market today, only One Serendra offers the most generously sized condo units, according to Mr. Dy.

It is a redefinition of the metropolitan high life through the accessible comforts of a spacious condominium home within a green, suburban sanctuary. It prides itself in being low density — residents sharing space and amenities with fewer people at any given time — a rarity even in upmarket residentials in the metro.

Exclusive facilities include a pool, a gym, a playground and underground basketball and badminton courts. Standard finishes highlight natural stone countertops and wood flooring. For the turnover of units, Ayala Land Premier made appointments with the unit owners to tour each of them in their actual units and to perform punchlisting — a process of going over a checklist of items the owner might want to review and ensure the quality of the finished unit. Warranties are provided on the unit finishes and fixtures. A “quick response team” consisting of an electrician, painter, plumber, and civil worker is on standby. Any requests or adjustments the unit owner wishes to make are carried out on-the-spot during the punchlisting process itself.

There is a group of highly trained individuals who meticulously go through a four-stage quality control process to ensure that the unit is at par with Ayala Land Premier’s highest standards. The unit has thus gone through strict layers and levels of quality control prior to the buyer moving into the unit, said Mr. Dy. The turnover is also in time with the new and highly popular retail lifestyle unfolding along Bonifacio High Street, the kilometer- long stretch of flagship stores of top international brands, including Shops at Serendra, the residential development’s own retail promenade of quaint multicultural establishments and array of restaurants. One Serendra’s first residents are fortunate enough to be at this exciting cusp of growth in the metro.

“One Serendra’s first phase of development is the actual reality of the distinctive lifestyle that Ayala Land Premier promised already unfolding,” he said. Truly, Ayala Land Premier considers One Serendra as an inimitable experience — an opportunity for condo dwellers to end the compromise between enjoying the spaciousness of suburban living but in a development within city conveniences. It is a lifestyle that perhaps would never come across the market anew, or never to be repeated again certainly within the prime location of Bonifacio Global City. For the discriminating few who have trusted in the pioneering vision of Ayala Land Premier from the get-go, it is an exciting new condominium lifestyle now unfolding at One Serendra. — Ikka C. de Guzman


complete article at http://www.bworldonline.com/BW091707/today.php

traveljunkie
September 17th, 2007, 10:19 AM
Any recommendations for interior designers? I'm looking for good interior design upstarts preferably graduating students or newly graduates from PSID or other schools. Siguro naman hindi pa masyadong expensive ang rates nila :) There was one student featured at Urban Zone named Lanee Koh who did a very good job with a one-bedroom unit.

icel
September 17th, 2007, 10:48 AM
Any recommendations for interior designers? I'm looking for good interior design upstarts preferably graduating students or newly graduates from PSID or other schools. Siguro naman hindi pa masyadong expensive ang rates nila :) There was one student featured at Urban Zone named Lanee Koh who did a very good job with a one-bedroom unit.

have a friend who recently graduated from PSID, has good work experience also. im not sure though on how much she charges or on how good she is.

you can contact her and go through her portfolio and talk on the price, let me know if you want ill give you her number though PM.

gridloc
September 17th, 2007, 04:38 PM
have a friend who recently graduated from PSID, has good work experience also. im not sure though on how much she charges or on how good she is.

you can contact her and go through her portfolio and talk on the price, let me know if you want ill give you her number though PM.

Hi! Please PM me too, I need an ID for my under construction house...thanks a lot!:)

drivensteven
September 18th, 2007, 11:13 AM
Hi! Please PM me too, I need an ID for my under construction house...thanks a lot!:)

Hi Gridloc! I'm a 3D Architectural & Interior Design Visualizer. I also design model units & interior design as well. If you have time, please visit my personal portfolio website at http://stephenpdavid.multiply.com to view my Interior Design & Architectural Projects. Just PM me if you have any queries. Thanks! :)

asdn
September 18th, 2007, 04:22 PM
sister ko ggraduate palang sa psid this term. if you want to see her design punta ka sa unit namin 102 :)

gridloc
September 18th, 2007, 04:54 PM
sister ko ggraduate palang sa psid this term. if you want to see her design punta ka sa unit namin 102 :)

you mean unit 102 of one serendra?:)

ChicTown
September 18th, 2007, 10:25 PM
sister ko ggraduate palang sa psid this term. if you want to see her design punta ka sa unit namin 102 :)

Hope all is well! @asdn, my wife and I would like to meet with your sister this November to view her designs. The house design we have in mind is a mediterranean style but we would like someone like your sister to sketch it out and to use her own concept into the plan. Please respond to this note where we could see her. Thanks in advance and regards!:) :)

asdn
September 19th, 2007, 09:23 AM
you mean unit 102 of one serendra?:)

you got that right ;)

@chictown

im not really sure if shes available on november kasi she is doing her somewhat like thesis they are already doing their design for their last project like those designs in glorietta. you can drop by on our place if im available :) you can pm me :) if youre in a hurry maybe my sister cant help you but maybe her team can. 3 of them designed our unit. i want to post pictures but i dont think maaappreciate niyo ang pics kasi hindi makikita yung full potential nung design ;)

btw im not sure kung magaling talaga siya pero im really happy sa design na ginawa niya dito sa unit namin. the original config of this unit is a special 2 bedroom turned 3 ;) siguro bias ako hehehe

ChicTown
September 19th, 2007, 03:07 PM
you got that right ;)

@chictown

im not really sure if shes available on november kasi she is doing her somewhat like thesis they are already doing their design for their last project like those designs in glorietta. you can drop by on our place if im available :) you can pm me :) if youre in a hurry maybe my sister cant help you but maybe her team can. 3 of them designed our unit. i want to post pictures but i dont think maaappreciate niyo ang pics kasi hindi makikita yung full potential nung design ;)

btw im not sure kung magaling talaga siya pero im really happy sa design na ginawa niya dito sa unit namin. the original config of this unit is a special 2 bedroom turned 3 ;) siguro bias ako hehehe

Thanks for your quick reply @asdn. We'll get in touch in November and be looking forward to meeting with you and your sister at a time convenient for both of you. You folks are Serendra residents, so that alone speaks for your impeccable taste. Thanks again and regards!:)

TheRick
September 20th, 2007, 07:20 PM
Amateur Video on Serendra

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Tour of Serendra Condo Unit (http://youtube.com/watch?v=b8RxxOU56ik)


ORjDjlyp_uw
Shops in Serendra - Bonifacio High Street (http://youtube.com/watch?v=ORjDjlyp_uw)

-TC-
September 21st, 2007, 06:10 AM
http://business.inquirer.net/money/breakingnews/view_article.php?article_id=89834

Gov’t sees P1.9B from sale of Global City lot
8 firms vie for 1.2-hectare prime property
By Ronnel Domingo
Inquirer
09/21/2007

MANILA, Philippines -- The Bases Conversion Development Authority (BCDA) expects to earn P1.9 billion from the sale of a 1.2-hectare prime lot in Bonifacio Global City, a BCDA official said Thursday.

Eight top real estate developers have expressed interest in bidding for the property.

The property set for sale or joint venture is part of the third phase of the BCDA Asset Disposition Program, Aileen Zosa of BCDA said.

Known as the Expanded Big Delta Lots, formerly the Government Center for Investments, the property calls for a minimum bid price of P160,000 per square meter, or P10,000 more than what was asked the first time.

Zosa said prospective bidders were the Net Group -- a consortium of the Rufino group and US real estate giant Trump Organization -- Ayala Land Inc., Ascendas, Century Properties, Filinvest Land, IPM Realty Corp., Landco Pacific, and Robinsons Land.

An auction for the property was held in the third quarter of 2006 but failed; transfer of the land title could not be allowed because of a mortgage on the property.

The BCDA has mortgaged the property to Banco de Oro to secure a P1-billion standby credit facility in anticipation of a shortfall of funds for its Subic-Clark-Tarlac Expressway project.

For the new bidding, set for Nov. 5, the BCDA requires bidders to include in their proposals a way through which the mortgage’s limitation of title transfer may be resolved.

The 12,036-square-meter lot is classified as mixed-use property -- it can be developed into residential, office and commercial and retail complex, Zosa said.

She added that the developer could put up on the lot a building with a gross floor area of about 144,000 square meters.

“Developers can avail of PEZA [Philippine Economic Zone Authority] incentives if their project is qualified and registered under Peza rules and law,” Zosa said.

feistyradical
September 21st, 2007, 07:33 AM
Where is the exact location of of this 1.2 hectare prime lot?



Gov’t sees P1.9B from sale of Global City lot 8 firms vie for 1.2-hectare prime property


MANILA, Philippines -- The Bases Conversion Development Authority (BCDA) expects to earn P1.9 billion from the sale of a 1.2-hectare prime lot in Bonifacio Global City, a BCDA official said Thursday.

Eight top real estate developers have expressed interest in bidding for the property.

The property set for sale or joint venture is part of the third phase of the BCDA Asset Disposition Program, Aileen Zosa of BCDA said.

Known as the Expanded Big Delta Lots, formerly the Government Center for Investments, the property calls for a minimum bid price of P160,000 per square meter, or P10,000 more than what was asked the first time.

Zosa said prospective bidders were the Net Group -- a consortium of the Rufino group and US real estate giant Trump Organization -- Ayala Land Inc., Ascendas, Century Properties, Filinvest Land, IPM Realty Corp., Landco Pacific, and Robinsons Land.

-TC-
September 21st, 2007, 05:31 PM
Where is the exact location of of this 1.2 hectare prime lot?

To answer your question, I am posting an article from Philstar with some clues on the location of the lot:

http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Business&p=49&type=2&sec=27&aid=2007092078

ALI, 7 others eye gov’t prime lot in Global City
By Ma. Elisa P. Osorio
Philippine Star
September 21, 2007

Top real estate developers including Ayala Land Inc. and Gokongwei-led Robinsons Land have expressed interest in bidding for government owned multi-billion prime lot in Bonifacio Global City.

In a statement, the Bases Conversion Development Authority (BCDA) said that Century Properties, Filinvest Land, IPM Realty Corp., Landco Pacific, Net Group, and Ascendas have expressed interest in bidding for government-owned prime lot in Bonifacio Global City.

Two foreign firms, American firm Net Group of billionaire Donald Trump and Singapore based Ascendas have likewise submitted their letter of intent to bid for the one of the most prime lots in Bonifacio Global City.

The BCDA has extended the deadline for the issuance of the terms of reference (TOR) to Sept. 21 while the submission of proposals has been set on Nov. 5.

BCDA president Narciso Abaya said he is optimistic that the bidding will not only generate revenues for conversion projects but more importantly, further maximize values of the whole Bonifacio Global City.

“The lot is the remaining lot in E-Square since most of the E-Square lots were already sold by Fort Bonifacio Development Corp. (FBDC) to third party buyers,” Abaya said.

The land was bidded out before but it failed since sale and transfer of titles were not allowed due to the mortgage on the lot.

However, Abaya assured that this time BCDA is allowing a sale or joint venture or a combination provided that bidders can address the mortgage issue. This can mean that the bidder will propose a substitute facility that will allow BCDA to transfer titles or the bidders can opt to frontload the value of the property to pay off the mortgage.

With the current pace of investments taking place, the development of the Global City is on track in making it one of the country’s key international business districts.

Because the lot is within the E-Square, an economic zone, the potential developer can avail of fiscal and non fiscal incentives from the Philippine Economic Zone Authority (PEZA).

The former Government Center for Investment (GCI) is classified as mixed use meaning it can be a residential, office or commercial/retail complex.

Abaya said the lot is at the “primest portion” of the Bonifacio Global Cityfifth avenue across the Fort and in the Gateway of City Center.

The Bonifacio Global City boasts of a central location that is a few minutes away from the Makati and Ortigas Central Business Districts, the airport and major thoroughfares like C-5.

It has world-class infrastructure that includes an underground drainage detention structure with the capacity to hold 22 million liters of water and release it under controlled conditions to prevent floods. It also has a fiber optic cabling network to support a wide range of telephone, video and data
applications.

3cr
September 22nd, 2007, 07:19 AM
Where is the exact location of of this 1.2 hectare prime lot? ^^ Check the Fort Boni thread since all the info regarding the said lot have been posted there. But to answer your question the lot is located along 5th Avenue (between 26th and 28th st.) across "The Fort". Hope this helps. :)

gen1
September 25th, 2007, 12:28 AM
ano nga pala ang latest, do they allow outdoor grills at serendra ?

malapit na december, party season in manila.

OilMover
September 25th, 2007, 03:07 PM
ano nga pala ang latest, do they allow outdoor grills at serendra ?

malapit na december, party season in manila.

sabi ng boss ng property specialist ko pwede daw magbarbecue sa balcony...at least pampulutan.

gen1
September 25th, 2007, 03:58 PM
^^ uy ok :)

I'm scheduling na a couple of parties at my flat. december kasi ang turnover ng B & C.

kahit wala pang furniture, party na ! basta nakakabit na ang air con. bahala na caterer sa uupuan namin :lol:

vsamba
September 26th, 2007, 03:49 AM
mas maganda nga imo dahil your unit can accomodate more guests. all you need are folding tables and chairs/plastic patio chairs. have fun. you waited long enough.

Dvorak
September 26th, 2007, 05:20 AM
wow! party time na sa serendra!!!

theOCdiva
September 28th, 2007, 08:12 AM
wow! party time na sa serendra!!!

Pls add me to the Dec. -Jan. 2008 party list! :lol: Cheers!

Edmundtanso
September 28th, 2007, 04:33 PM
add me in also =) i would be in manila for the holidays =)

realtor_manila
September 29th, 2007, 08:02 AM
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i143/cynchyap/BGC-2007/IMG_3353.jpg

NorthshorE
September 30th, 2007, 04:08 AM
Two Serendra photos sent by my agent :)

The view of Section A from the Portico/Drop-off area

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc278/Northshore380/sectiona.jpg

The Lounge Area facing the pool (where the play room, day care & function rooms are located)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc278/Northshore380/lounge.jpg

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc278/Northshore380/lounge1.jpg

The view of the Lounge Area from the garden/children's play area

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc278/Northshore380/lounge2.jpg

The Main Pool

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc278/Northshore380/mainpool.jpg

The Main Pool & part of the Club House

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc278/Northshore380/mainpoolclubhouse.jpg

Play & garden area

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc278/Northshore380/play.jpg

vsamba
September 30th, 2007, 06:47 AM
awesome!

ProjM
September 30th, 2007, 07:10 PM
...very nice---but what's up with the pool furniture though?

flymordecai
October 1st, 2007, 07:50 AM
^^ Those weave furnitures? Those look like they are by one of our local furniture designers, don't remember the name, but they are highly-acclaimed internationally.

-TC-
October 1st, 2007, 10:57 AM
^^ Those weave furnitures? Those look like they are by one of our local furniture designers, don't remember the name, but they are highly-acclaimed internationally.

It's Kenneth Cobonpue. Were those pieces bought from him?

thomasian
October 1st, 2007, 11:08 AM
^^ Kenneth Cobonpue?

Edit: Oops, nasagot na pala ni TC. Anyway, It does look like his, TC.

Edmundtanso
October 1st, 2007, 04:32 PM
love it! it does feel like you are in a resort =) now i want to see the serendra 2 =)

theOCdiva
October 2nd, 2007, 06:44 AM
thanks for the pictures, Northshore! likey the cool furnitures! what is it made of?
needs lots of floorspace but very cool!

ProjM
October 2nd, 2007, 08:25 AM
^^ Those weave furnitures? Those look like they are by one of our local furniture designers, don't remember the name, but they are highly-acclaimed internationally.

Actually, what I meant was the outdoor pool furniture--like the pool tables, chairs, umbrellas, etc. seem to be missing from the picture.:)

thomasian
October 2nd, 2007, 08:50 AM
thanks for the pictures, Northshore! likey the cool furnitures! what is it made of?
needs lots of floorspace but very cool!

He uses a lot of local, native materials so it could be abaca (or rattan), with other native materials, stained a dark shade of brown. I don't know what imported materials were used, but at least it looks very world-class (and it really is!) with very minimal imported components used, if any. :applause:

Malamang steel yung frame, it wouldn't be as sturdy if it isn't, diba? Baka hindi maupuan yan pag hindi steel yung frame! :D

-TC-
October 2nd, 2007, 02:25 PM
thanks for the pictures, Northshore! likey the cool furnitures! what is it made of? needs lots of floorspace but very cool!

No one has yet confirmed if the furnitures in Serendra were indeed bought from Kenneth Cobonpue. Anyway, you guys might want to check out www.kennethcobonpue.com. What is this Filipino's claim to fame? Well, he has been featured in several international furniture/interior design magazines, some of his furniture pieces were used in the movie Ocean's 13 and Brad Pitt famously bought a bed from him!

thomasian
October 2nd, 2007, 05:12 PM
^^ Thanks for the link. I checked it out and found the "Croissant" collection looks very similar to that one.

theOCdiva
October 3rd, 2007, 08:56 AM
Despite the sloooooow data transfer rate on the Kenneth Cobonpue web-site, I persisted and got rewarded. The furnitures are truly impressive!

Hmmm, let's see.... One Voyage bed, one Lolah chair, and a Manolos coffee table and 2 club chairs will do wonders to a studio. The Manolos are sexy, methinks, just like the Blahniks. Besides, one can never have enough sandals! I can dream, can't I? :nuts:

I hope they'll use some cafe seatings for pool/deck chairs - will tie-in nicely to the indoors', for sure!

Thanks for keeping me as excited today as the day I committed myself to calling Two Serendra my home away from home.

Cheers all! :cheers1:

Raktak
October 3rd, 2007, 10:09 AM
Just had my unit inspection at one serendra this morning. The person who handled our inspection was very helpful and very honest. She admitted that there are still some things that needs to be fixed. She showed us all things that they have to do. Actually, it was her who was pointing the defects of the unit and promising us it will be fixed. Most of the things that needs to be fixed are minor items like paint on the glass on the main door, missing drain covers, rough paint finish on the doors,... Some of the major repairs are uneven narra parquet flooring, re tiling of the bathroom (some are cracked), and the big gap on the connection of the granite counter top. She promised to have it done in 2 to 3 weeks. I told her 2 weeks because we still need to renovate and we have to move in by november. She was very apologetic on the delay of the turnover. I couldnt count how many times she said sorry.

If I was in a rush, I could have accepted the unit as is. But since my wife is very particular on the finishing, we decided to wait for the two weeks repair. Actually, it was the property manager who was insisting that they still need to fix it before they turn it over.

I was told that out of the 120 turned over units, only 30 are living there. When I went there this morning, I saw more contractors than residents. And you can here the noise from the construction of section d & e. Even in section a, there were a lot of noise because of the renovation of the unit owners on their units.

The staff of serendra are very courteous. They were all smiling and always greeted you.

I cant wait for the unit to be turned over to us. In the mean time, I guess its shopping time for appliances. Good thing there is citibank paylite... hehe...

SQ
October 3rd, 2007, 10:44 AM
I think Automatic Center has an on-going sale of Toshiba 32"LCD TVs.
Two (2) units at P80T. So, each 32" TV costs P40T only compared to the other leading brands (Sony Bravia and Samsung) which will cost P60T+

well, you can sell the 2nd unit if you don't need it or better yet, find a friend
who is also looking for an LCD TV so, you can take advantage of the special offer :-)

Raktak
October 3rd, 2007, 10:52 AM
Sounds like a bargain... I can use the other TV on the masters bedroom... Thanks for the info...

I think Automatic Center has an on-going sale of Toshiba 32"LCD TVs.
Two (2) units at P80T. So, each 32" TV costs P40T only compared to the other leading brands (Sony Bravia and Samsung) which will cost P60T+

well, you can sell the 2nd unit if you don't need it or better yet, find a friend
who is also looking for an LCD TV so, you can take advantage of the special offer :-)

gen1
October 4th, 2007, 12:50 AM
]I was told that out of the 120 turned over units, only 30 are living there.[/B] When I went there this morning, I saw more contractors than residents. And you can here the noise from the construction of section d & e. Even in section a, there were a lot of noise because of the renovation of the unit owners on their units.
...

So would that mean that we are looking at a very large renter/leesee population ? :(

'wag naman sana, bad trip na neighbor ang short term leesees.

TheRick
October 4th, 2007, 01:20 AM
It would be intresting when all the current projects in BGC turnover in 2010-2011.
I hope that are more owners will be using their unit as oppose to having them rented out.
I wish I have statistics on how many OFW and Filipinos living outside the Philippines bought units in BGC.

With the all the influx of units avialable for rent in the area in 2010-2011, I hope that the supply and demand is evenly balanced (or more demand side :) )

theOCdiva
October 4th, 2007, 08:16 AM
I think Automatic Center has an on-going sale of Toshiba 32"LCD TVs.
Two (2) units at P80T. So, each 32" TV costs P40T only compared to the other leading brands (Sony Bravia and Samsung) which will cost P60T+

well, you can sell the 2nd unit if you don't need it or better yet, find a friend
who is also looking for an LCD TV so, you can take advantage of the special offer :-)

:ohno: wow, that's pricey! almost a thousand dollars per?

So would that mean that we are looking at a very large renter/leesee population ? :(

'wag naman sana, bad trip na neighbor ang short term leesees.

Why 'bad trip..', gen1? just curious...please take no offense, nothing personal. Thanks! Susan

theOCdiva
October 4th, 2007, 08:19 AM
Just had my unit inspection at one serendra this morning. ... hehe...

getting warmer! congrats, raktak! :)

gen1
October 4th, 2007, 08:30 AM
:ohno: wow, that's pricey! almost a thousand dollars per?

Why 'bad trip..', gen1? just curious...please take no offense, nothing personal. Thanks! Susan

long term residents are usually nicer because they'll be there for the long haul. they will not want to be unpleasant with a neighbor they know they'll be living adjacent to for the next 20 years. :)

Raktak
October 4th, 2007, 09:16 AM
So would that mean that we are looking at a very large renter/leesee population ? :(

'wag naman sana, bad trip na neighbor ang short term leesees.

From what the property manager told me, most of the unit owners are not renting it out... Most foreign buyers will use it when they are in the country..


getting warmer! congrats, raktak! :)

Thanks..

tafftrader
October 4th, 2007, 10:10 AM
[QUOTE=Raktak;15708790]From what the property manager told me, most of the unit owners are not renting it out... Most foreign buyers will use it when they are in the country..



NICE! :)

OilMover
October 4th, 2007, 03:12 PM
As for me, Two Serendra is where I am going to retire. Paying $13,000 a year in property tax, the most expensive car insurance and medical cost in the US .... retiring in the Philippines is a no-brainer. Those of you who live in NJ (or the east coast for that matter) know what I am talking about. Besides, 34 years (36 by the time I retire) in the US is enough.

bartman
October 4th, 2007, 04:55 PM
i'm back "home"!!!

lauren/fonz, are you guys home?

Dvorak
October 4th, 2007, 05:12 PM
aba aba! it's party time na ba!

ChicTown
October 4th, 2007, 07:07 PM
i'm back "home"!!!

lauren/fonz, are you guys home?

:) :) hey, bartman! Hope all is well. Expect visitors next month!Regards.:cheers:

bartman
October 4th, 2007, 07:10 PM
:) :) hey, bartman! Hope all is well. Expect visitors next month!Regards.:cheers:

totoo yan ha! so that means ok ka na. see you soon. i'm staying here until before christmas.

bartman
October 4th, 2007, 07:11 PM
aba aba! it's party time na ba!

ehh puro kayo trabaho. heto, ako naka ilang beer na after dinner. malasing ko kaya sarili ko? :nuts: :cheers:
wala ako magawa; jetlag :ohno:

asdn
October 4th, 2007, 07:31 PM
i miss serendra :( 2 weeks palang ako umalis nakakamiss na sobra. ngayon pa na may cable na! malapit na ko umuwi weeeeeee

bartman
October 4th, 2007, 07:54 PM
i miss serendra :( 2 weeks palang ako umalis nakakamiss na sobra. ngayon pa na may cable na! malapit na ko umuwi weeeeeee

i picked up a cable tv application form kanina. admin office people say that the cable provider can do a next day install, or after 2 days for sure.

when are you coming back?

bigla ko lang naisip... abe's must be my favorite restaurant here. it's the one i've frequented the most :)

ChicTown
October 4th, 2007, 11:41 PM
totoo yan ha! so that means ok ka na. see you soon. i'm staying here until before christmas.

:) Not quite for good yet, Bart. Just 4 wks. for me and 3 for the wife, to take care of our shipment and the place. I've put off my reconstructive surgery and the other one for next year. Masakit pa ang kanan paa ko. Anyhow, enjoy your stay, be safe and SEE YA! Regards.:cheers:

vsamba
October 5th, 2007, 05:31 AM
OilMover As for me, Two Serendra is where I am going to retire. Paying $13,000 a year in property tax, the most expensive car insurance and medical cost in the US .... retiring in the Philippines is a no-brainer. Those of you who live in NJ (or the east coast for that matter) know what I am talking about. Besides, 34 years (36 by the time I retire) in the US is enough.

you'll go back to the usa like many many others who swore that they had enough of uncle sam. hehehe.

OilMover
October 5th, 2007, 06:38 AM
you'll go back to the usa like many many others who swore that they had enough of uncle sam. hehehe.

You're probably right!

3cr
October 5th, 2007, 07:05 AM
i'm back "home"!!!

lauren/fonz, are you guys home?

Bart's back in town again! Looks like Party Time once more! :banana: :banana: :banana:

august88boy
October 5th, 2007, 09:16 AM
has anyone able to compare the interior finish of serendra to that of G&W's BTOs?

just curious. :)

asdn
October 5th, 2007, 09:03 PM
sa tuesday dyan na ko yehey!

Go Global
October 5th, 2007, 09:52 PM
Bart, welcome back to the Philippines. Hope to see you and the BGCityzens when I get there in November. BTW, have you seen Lauren yet? She's been absent for weeks now.

:speech: Paging Lauren. Come out come out wherever you are.

stephenpdavid
October 6th, 2007, 04:58 AM
Sorry guys, my "drivensteven" account was blocked by the SSC administration for spamming the forum. Anyways, I learned my lesson. Hope to hear from you guys soon! Cheers! :)

gridloc
October 6th, 2007, 03:24 PM
Sorry guys, my "drivensteven" account was blocked by the SSC administration for spamming the forum. Anyways, I learned my lesson. Hope to hear from you guys soon! Cheers! :)

Welcome Back pare!

Glad you're back. sana ma ok na ung deal natin hehe

stephenpdavid
October 6th, 2007, 07:10 PM
Thanks dude! :) Just give me a ring if you still have questions. I hope we can start the project already...cheers! :)

Welcome Back pare!

Glad you're back. sana ma ok na ung deal natin hehe

xandro
October 7th, 2007, 05:18 AM
haven't posted for quite some time and have been lurking the forums (but have been enjoying reading the posts). was in serendra yesterday and took some photos. here they are:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/216/1502327268_b55ed4854f_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2276/1502325850_4a072d8444_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2261/1501468413_a60ceaa2bb_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2398/1501469367_12952f30ae_o.jpg

here's a shot of the function room:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2279/1501467867_b8ec8b9b0d.jpg

Lili
October 7th, 2007, 05:26 AM
^^ Now that is the Serendra that calls forth the word "Serene". :)

bartman
October 7th, 2007, 07:01 AM
just to clarify:
those are pictures of TwoSerendra

Master Baet
October 7th, 2007, 09:17 AM
great pics xandro!

Edmundtanso
October 7th, 2007, 05:21 PM
nice! thanks

theOCdiva
October 10th, 2007, 05:27 AM
:)

bartman
October 11th, 2007, 04:08 AM
Bart, welcome back to the Philippines. Hope to see you and the BGCityzens when I get there in November. BTW, have you seen Lauren yet? She's been absent for weeks now.

:speech: Paging Lauren. Come out come out wherever you are.
fyi, i exchanged text messages with lauren 2 or 3 days ago. she's just busy working. she says her dad is a slavedriver :lol:

xandro
October 11th, 2007, 04:50 AM
welcome, guys!

VilmerK
October 13th, 2007, 12:51 AM
Hi..newbie here..I'm waiting for my unit to complete..Serendra One Section D..got a special tour last week from Bartman..thanks again..can't wait to hangout there w/ the rest of my Serendra neighbors!

NorthshorE
October 14th, 2007, 05:44 AM
Great pics, xandro.

Will be back in Manila next week for a few days. :) Hope the weather will be nice.

pebbles
October 14th, 2007, 06:05 AM
Great pics, xandro.

Will be back in Manila next week for a few days. :) Hope the weather will be nice.

You're taking advantage of the Friday holiday in HK for a quick trip to Manila? I'll be doing the same, just a weekend jaunt ....... have you moved into your Serendra apartment already? Enjoy your stay, and let us know how the facilities are turning out to be ... cheers

bartman
October 14th, 2007, 11:02 AM
Hi..newbie here..I'm waiting for my unit to complete..Serendra One Section D..got a special tour last week from Bartman..thanks again..can't wait to hangout there w/ the rest of my Serendra neighbors!

don't mention it! it was nice showing a new neighbor around :)

drop by the fbgcitizens thread over at samahan!

gen1
October 14th, 2007, 11:15 AM
bartman,

pa-pm naman ng customer care telephone number mo ng serendra. I've been trying to contact my sales rep pero hindi naman sumasagot sa akin. I'll go direct na to try to find out if they're deliviring B&C on sked.

salamat :)

bartman
October 15th, 2007, 06:12 AM
^^ afaik they're delivering section b on schedule
check your inbox for my pm on those numbers :)

NorthshorE
October 16th, 2007, 02:49 AM
You're taking advantage of the Friday holiday in HK for a quick trip to Manila? I'll be doing the same, just a weekend jaunt ....... have you moved into your Serendra apartment already? Enjoy your stay, and let us know how the facilities are turning out to be ... cheers

Hi Pebbles. We'll be there for a week trying to avoid the air in HKG. Bad for the kids. Yes, we have moved into the apartment beginning of September and we stayed there for a week already. :)

gen1
October 16th, 2007, 09:17 AM
^^ afaik they're delivering section b on schedule
check your inbox for my pm on those numbers :)

got it. thanks. :)

gen1
October 18th, 2007, 09:26 AM
woohoo ! ! !

they'll be sending out the acceptance? letters starting dec 1 for one serendra B & C.

a very merry christmas indeed :)

bartman
October 19th, 2007, 12:37 AM
^^ congratulations!!!
malapit na yan :cheers:

keypool
October 19th, 2007, 01:11 AM
Hello One Serendra folks!

Saw Serendra yesterday. I just want to ask: Why did you prefer One Serendra versus Two Serendra even though it is more expensive?

gen1
October 19th, 2007, 06:40 AM
^^ because it's low density condo.

I previously lived in a penthouse unit at princeville condominium, a middle class condo in shaw boulevard. lesson learned :)

joybook_5000
October 19th, 2007, 02:38 PM
Hello One Serendra folks!

Saw Serendra yesterday. I just want to ask: Why did you prefer One Serendra versus Two Serendra even though it is more expensive?

how much is the difference?

keypool
October 19th, 2007, 08:36 PM
I think 2 Bedroom units goes around 15 Million at One Serendra. Cuts are bigger kasi. I don't know about Two Serendra but cuts are smaller and price is a lower too.

bartman
October 20th, 2007, 09:02 AM
Hello One Serendra folks!

Saw Serendra yesterday. I just want to ask: Why did you prefer One Serendra versus Two Serendra even though it is more expensive?
the reasons have been discussed quite extensively before. your sales agent should be able to show you the differences.

OilMover
October 20th, 2007, 04:35 PM
Hello One Serendra folks!

Saw Serendra yesterday. I just want to ask: Why did you prefer One Serendra versus Two Serendra even though it is more expensive?

I think it boils down to what you can afford and what you intend to do with the unit. Bear in mind that you still have to furnish it and most likely make changes to your liking. Also, do you really want to pay for all the amenities that go with One Serendra and hardly, if ever, use it. No doubt One Serendra is the better section, so if you can hack it, by all means - go for it. By the way, I opted for what I can afford -Two Serendra.

gen1
October 21st, 2007, 03:37 AM
IMO as is, ok na ang serendra units. no extensive modifications needed unless you want a designer/showcase unit.

It already comes with a kitchen exhaust fan, so the only appliances where you would need outside help to install would be the airconditioning units and the water heater.

OilMover
October 21st, 2007, 04:44 AM
IMO as is, ok na ang serendra units. no extensive modifications needed unless you want a designer/showcase unit.

It already comes with a kitchen exhaust fan, so the only appliances where you would need outside help to install would be the airconditioning units and the water heater.

Thanks for the info!

asdn
October 21st, 2007, 09:30 AM
nakakainis ayaw iapprove yung bubong sa balcony namin.. nasasayang tuloy pag umuulan maputik hindi kami makalabas sayang lang yung mga nilagay namin dun na table hindi din nagagamit.. nakakaloko pa naman yung weather lately.. sa mga unit owners sa ground floor dapat magsama sama tayo magreklamo.. sayang talaga e lalo na yung mga high street side sayang view natin pag basa ang labas diba? hindi natin maenjoy

joybook_5000
October 21st, 2007, 10:21 AM
nakakainis ayaw iapprove yung bubong sa balcony namin.. nasasayang tuloy pag umuulan maputik hindi kami makalabas sayang lang yung mga nilagay namin dun na table hindi din nagagamit.. nakakaloko pa naman yung weather lately.. sa mga unit owners sa ground floor dapat magsama sama tayo magreklamo.. sayang talaga e lalo na yung mga high street side sayang view natin pag basa ang labas diba? hindi natin maenjoy

Usually nga hindi pinapayagan yan. Masisira daw kasi yung design ng building, di na magiging pare-pareho. Try mo kung pwede retractable awnings, baka sakali payagan :)

http://www.cheapawnings.com/

asdn
October 21st, 2007, 01:35 PM
yung gagamitin sana namin is yung colorless.. hindi siya makikita ang reason naman nila ngayon is yung load daw hindi kaya.. kalokohan nila.. pag umaga nakikita namin may mga yosi na sa sahig galing sa taas kawawa naman kami..

joybook_5000
October 21st, 2007, 02:11 PM
Kami rin balak naming lagyan ng polycarbonate yung 24 sqm na balcony ko sa Belair SOHO. Balak ko kasi sana ipalandscape para naman magamit ko sya. Susulat pa lang kami, sana naman payagan :)

vsamba
October 21st, 2007, 11:15 PM
joy book, what is a polycarbonate ? is your balcony not useable now or you think it's just plain and uninspiring?

KiBeN
October 22nd, 2007, 12:13 AM
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/9109/dsc5921dn1.jpg

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/9673/dsc5951sh4.jpg

joybook_5000
October 22nd, 2007, 02:02 PM
joy book, what is a polycarbonate ? is your balcony not useable now or you think it's just plain and uninspiring?

I just think the balcony is very plain.

Polycarbonate is a transparent plastic sheet that you can use as a roof like below:

http://www.singaporemirror.com/co_perfect88.jpg

realtor_manila
October 22nd, 2007, 05:28 PM
yung gagamitin sana namin is yung colorless.. hindi siya makikita ang reason naman nila ngayon is yung load daw hindi kaya.. kalokohan nila.. pag umaga nakikita namin may mga yosi na sa sahig galing sa taas kawawa naman kami..

Hello!

I really doubt it if Ayala Land/ Community Innovations, Inc. (CII) will allow you to place such roof (colorless or not) to be installed in your balcony - since it might change the facade of the condo building. These restrictions are stipulated in the Master Deed.

Also, the reason ALI/CII will not allow you to install the roof is because this will be a precedent. Definitely this will be a major headache for the Developer and for the Property Manager.

Sometimes, you'll feel bad with regard to these restrictions, but honestly, it will benefit you and the other unit owners as well in the LONG-TERM, since the "look" of the entire development is preserved. With this in mind, the property value of your condo unit will appreciate in the long-term.

Regarding the cigarette ashes, you can complain about that to your Property Manager. The Property Manager in turn, will relay this to the concerned parties involved. (I'm thinking that it might be one of the construction workers within the area (?) .

Wishing you the best!

OilMover
October 22nd, 2007, 08:02 PM
Yes, it's probably construction workers. I find it hard to believe that people who can afford a Serendra unit can't afford to buy ash trays. Besides, upper middle class people are not suppose to behave that way..right? You know asdn, if you install a clear roof, you'll end up staring at cigarette butts, bird droppings, and who knows what else unpleasant on your roof.

vsamba
October 23rd, 2007, 06:23 AM
joybook, ang ganda pala ng polycarbonate. sana payagan ka.

Dvorak
October 23rd, 2007, 06:25 AM
how about those big umbrella tents?? the ones that they put sa starbucks/coffe shops?

I know sa Boni Ridge, which is under Ayala Property, they allowed unit owners with balconies in the ground floor to put up a picnic tent like that.

joybook_5000
October 23rd, 2007, 02:02 PM
joybook, ang ganda pala ng polycarbonate. sana payagan ka.

Thanks, sana nga :) We are still waiting for a reply.

gridloc
October 23rd, 2007, 04:21 PM
Serendra pics, 102007:

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/glennbp/IMG_0049-1.jpg[/IMG]

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/glennbp/IMG_0048.jpg[/IMG]

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/glennbp/IMG_0047-1.jpg[/IMG]

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/glennbp/IMG_0046-1.jpg[/IMG]

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/glennbp/IMG_0045.jpg[/IMG]

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/glennbp/IMG_0042.jpg[/IMG]

RiOT!
October 25th, 2007, 06:18 PM
One Serendra pics:

October 25, 2007
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee308/rioboy6/BGC%2010252007/1025200711hr14minDSC00953OneSerendr.jpg
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee308/rioboy6/BGC%2010252007/1025200711hr16minDSC00955OneSerendr.jpg

Edmundtanso
October 25th, 2007, 10:36 PM
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/glennbp/IMG_0042.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

Great Pictures everyone.....what's with the planter island? i hope it is temporary...

rgbisaya
October 25th, 2007, 11:33 PM
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/glennbp/IMG_0042.jpg[/IMG]

Great Pictures everyone.....what's with the planter island? i hope it is temporary...[/QUOTE]

Well this is probably making sure nobody makes a u-turn. Like here in philly its a concrete barrier, thus help in eliminating front end collision esp. from mga lasing. Look at the SUV, isn't he hugging the road.

abodephils
October 26th, 2007, 03:54 AM
Hi, I'm new here. I'm interested in a one bedroom unit in the building next to Aston. Someone told me that the launch will be this October or November. I would like to know which is easily rented? Is it the studio? The one bedroom? Or the two bedroom? Is it better to get a unit in the lower floors (for example, 1st floor to 8th floor?) Or in the upper floors (example, 15th floor onwards). Does anyone know the name of the building next to the Aston. I would appreciate any info. Sorry if my Qs are kinda silly but I'm buying the unit for investment purposes. Thanks!

One Serendra Unit 528 Special 3br Lantern Unit 212 sqm 5th Flr 2 parking slots Sec. A facing Piazza. 25M.

Two Serendra Sec. C 6F 2br 70 sqm facing pool area w/ parking slot. 10M.

Two Serendra Sec. A 2br bi level cor. lantern unit. 10Flr. 84 sqm w/ parking slot facing Market Market. 11.6M.

theOCdiva
October 28th, 2007, 03:44 AM
Originally Posted by traveljunkie View Post
Hi, I'm new here. I'm interested in a one bedroom unit in the building next to Aston. Someone told me that the launch will be this October or November. I would like to know which is easily rented? Is it the studio? The one bedroom? Or the two bedroom? Is it better to get a unit in the lower floors (for example, 1st floor to 8th floor?) Or in the upper floors (example, 15th floor onwards). Does anyone know the name of the building next to the Aston. I would appreciate any info. Sorry if my Qs are kinda silly but I'm buying the unit for investment purposes. Thanks!

One Serendra Unit 528 Special 3br Lantern Unit 212 sqm 5th Flr 2 parking slots Sec. A facing Piazza. 25M.

Two Serendra Sec. C 6F 2br 70 sqm facing pool area w/ parking slot. 10M.

Two Serendra Sec. A 2br bi level cor. lantern unit. 10Flr. 84 sqm w/ parking slot facing Market Market. 11.6M.


Hello to all the newbies and thanks to all who posted those precious pics!:)

Regarding rentals, I came across this newsbit (posted by Boe, I think (thanks Boe!)), and hope it helps:

Quote:
Philippines: Rental Yields for:
Makati Central Business District, Ortigas Center, Eastwood City, Global City
Source: Global Property Guide
As of February 27, 2007

Most of the luxury condominiums are located in Makati CBD, Rockwell, Ortigas Center and Fort Bonifacio. Rental yields for these units are high.

The smallest apartments in each segment earn the highest yields. For instance, studio apartments in the prime areas of Metro Manila can earn around 13%-15%. But the highest returns are available on the smallest studios (30 sq. m.), which earn rental returns of an average of 15.1%. Larger studio condos (40 sq. m.) earn slightly lower returns (12.9%).
Unquote.

For the complete article (I kept the link) go to:
http://www.globalpropertyguide.com/country.php?id=154&cid=as&cat=3

Makes me think then that my studio will do wonders on rent!!:)
All I can say is, anyone who buys at Serendra has got a good head on his/her shoulder. Albeit a little bit more pricey but you'll be in for a great ride!
Good luck! :cheers1:

thomasian
October 28th, 2007, 07:08 AM
joybook, ang ganda pala ng polycarbonate. sana payagan ka.Thanks, sana nga :) We are still waiting for a reply.

Let me show you one my posts from the other thread...

Pasig River Ferry Station - Escolta

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2321/1632479016_655eb6d3f6_o.jpg

by sildjune (http://flickr.com/photos/sildjune/)The polycarbonate roof looks so cheap, they could have used glass instead.

Polycarbonate is beautiful when it's new. But used outdoors, polycarbonate sheets easily get ugly. Polycarbonate is plastic. High quality polycarbonate supposedly has good optical properties and some resistance to the elements, but then a lot of the polycarbonate sheets that you can buy here in the Philippines (even those in the giant home depots Wilcon, MC, The Home Depot, etc.) are the low quality Chinese ones that quickly deteriorate when used outdoors. Notice how in that picture one of the sheets are starting to become yellowish? And that in time it will also be less clear and, uh, uglier. If you've noticed the waterfall on Shangri-La Plaza's grand atrium, the one that spans the whole height of the atrium, you'll notice how algae have grown inside the polycarbonate sheets at the bottom, and on where the sheets are joined together. That's what usually happens on polycarbonate used outdoors, water seeps inside allowing algae to form. A more ugly example of polycarbonate usage would be the really-long footbridge linking the LRT2 Recto Station and LRT1 Doroteo Jose Station, the sheets used to be clear, now they're all cloudy (and no amount of cleaning would help), and in various shades of "paninilaw" due to the sun exposure. Use glass instead, it's more beautiful, although more expensive but will last much longer than polycarbonate so you'd still save money in the long run.

RiOT!
October 28th, 2007, 08:27 AM
Let me show you one my posts from the other thread...



Polycarbonate is beautiful when it's new. But used outdoors, polycarbonate sheets easily get ugly. Polycarbonate is plastic. High quality polycarbonate supposedly has good optical properties and some resistance to the elements, but then a lot of the polycarbonate sheets that you can buy here in the Philippines (even those in the giant home depots Wilcon, MC, The Home Depot, etc.) are the low quality Chinese ones that quickly deteriorate when used outdoors. Notice how in that picture one of the sheets are starting to become yellowish? And that in time it will also be less clear and, uh, uglier. If you've noticed the waterfall on Shangri-La Plaza's grand atrium, the one that spans the whole height of the atrium, you'll notice how algae have grown inside the polycarbonate sheets at the bottom, and on where the sheets are joined together. That's what usually happens on polycarbonate used outdoors, water seeps inside allowing algae to form. A more ugly example of polycarbonate usage would be the really-long footbridge linking the LRT2 Recto Station and LRT1 Doroteo Jose Station, the sheets used to be clear, now they're all cloudy (and no amount of cleaning would help), and in various shades of "paninilaw" due to the sun exposure. Use glass instead, it's more beautiful, although more expensive but will last much longer than polycarbonate so you'd still save money in the long run.

I agree with thomasian. Polycarbonate easily degrades due to UV light & heat from sun exposure. It's nice when new, but after awhile it will easily change color and become brittle. Glass, although heavier and much more expensive, is still better than polycarbonate.

frustratedarchitect
October 28th, 2007, 08:48 AM
Massive flats! :banana: ^^

And yeah polycarbonate is plastic and looks very much like plastic. It can become an eyesore after a long time. It can never have the sleek feel glass has in a million billion years. :)

gen1
October 28th, 2007, 12:59 PM
Let me show you one my posts from the other thread...

Polycarbonate is beautiful when it's new. But used outdoors, polycarbonate sheets easily get ugly. Polycarbonate is plastic. High quality polycarbonate supposedly has good optical properties and some resistance to the elements, but then a lot of the polycarbonate sheets that you can buy here in the Philippines (even those in the giant home depots Wilcon, MC, The Home Depot, etc.) are the low quality Chinese ones that quickly deteriorate when used outdoors. .


Yup, I agree with you. the low quality polycarbonates are not UV stable and deteriorates rapidly in sunlight.

If funds is not an issue though try buying GE LEXAN polycarbonates. It's great material and lasts for years and years without yellowing or getting brittle. It's used in the US for greenhouses.

The Lexan retaso left over from doing your patio can be used to bulletproof your car :)

thomasian
October 28th, 2007, 05:24 PM
^^ Haha, I was about to say lexan kaso baka sabihin nila na masyado na akong atribido at pakialamero, matapos pintasan ang plano nilang polycarbonate eh magsa-suggest pa. :D But yeah, lexan is good, great optical properties, and of course the durability ang toughness, kahit magbatuhan kayo ng mga gamit pag nag-away kayo eh okay lang. :tongue2:

pebbles
October 28th, 2007, 05:56 PM
[QUOTE=gridloc;16060544]Serendra pics, 102007:



http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/glennbp/IMG_0046-1.jpg[/IMG]

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/glennbp/IMG_0045.jpg[/IMG]

/QUOTE]

I'm not sure if I am seeing right, but are those round white things satellite dishes (in the 2nd to the left balcony on the top floor of first pic, and on top of the trellis in the bottom left area of the second pic)? If so, just wondering what other channels are available thru satellite dishes that are not already available thru cable; or are these dishes used for other things ... I'm not much of a technical guy when it comes to telecommunications stuff so sorry if my question is a bit elementary ....

gen1
October 29th, 2007, 01:09 AM
matagal din yatang walang cable tv sa serendra.

baka they didn't want to miss the pacquiao-morales fight :lol:

abodephils
October 29th, 2007, 07:23 AM
One Serendra Special 3br Sec. A Lantern Unit 212 sqm Unit 525 5th Flr 2 parking slots facing Piazza. PhP 25M.

One Serendra 2br Sec. A Unit 636 6th 126 sqm Flr 2 parking slots facing Piazza. PhP 15M.


I'm interested in buying a resale unit sa Serendra. Section B turnover sa Dec 2007. Nasa seller na ang title. What other items should I be concerned about when transferring the title?

regards
Arnold

gen1
October 30th, 2007, 01:20 AM
Bartman, open water certified diver ka ba ?

If I want to dive in phil dive sites like coron or apo would it make sense to be open water certified or ok na yung isang klase ng certification where you need to dive with a dive master (parang student driver :))

5 days kasi ang open water certification process. ang tagal. the other one is just 3 days.

your input would be appreciated.

salamat.

Edmundtanso
October 30th, 2007, 03:56 AM
Great Pictures everyone.....what's with the planter island? i hope it is temporary...

Well this is probably making sure nobody makes a u-turn. Like here in philly its a concrete barrier, thus help in eliminating front end collision esp. from mga lasing. Look at the SUV, isn't he hugging the road.[/QUOTE]

hmmmm..i just wish they make it look nicer if it is permanent.

OilMover
October 30th, 2007, 04:15 AM
Well this is probably making sure nobody makes a u-turn. Like here in philly its a concrete barrier, thus help in eliminating front end collision esp. from mga lasing. Look at the SUV, isn't he hugging the road.

hmmmm..i just wish they make it look nicer if it is permanent.[/QUOTE]

Those concrete barriers are called JERSEY BARRIERS because they first appeared in NJ and as you can imagine they are all over the place.:lol:

bartman
October 30th, 2007, 08:20 AM
Bartman, open water certified diver ka ba ?

If I want to dive in phil dive sites like coron or apo would it make sense to be open water certified or ok na yung isang klase ng certification where you need to dive with a dive master (parang student driver :))

5 days kasi ang open water certification process. ang tagal. the other one is just 3 days.

your input would be appreciated.

salamat.

yes, i am. you can't dive without a c card. a dive instructor may take you out on a dive if he/she uses the dive as part of the normal certification process.

i went on three dives last saturday in anilao. the last dive, we saw a pawikan. on the way back to the resort, some 50 dolphins were on a line and crossed in front of our boat. some were jumping up in the air and doing corkscrews like they were giving us a performance. awesome!!!

gen1
October 30th, 2007, 01:47 PM
Thanks for the info bartman. An SSCer PMed me and said the OW certification can be as short as two days daw. So I'll probably take the OW certification course na lang if it won't take all of 5 days.

I'll be doing it in dumaguete though. There are several PADI diving outfits based there that I can tap. The fun thing about my job is that I can stay for extended periods of time at what manilenos would see as vacation spots :)

I know what you mean about anilao. That was where our PE II (advanced swimming) class in college went 25 years ago for snorkelling and I swore to myself then that someday I'll take up the sport of scuba diving. :)

joybook_5000
October 30th, 2007, 02:03 PM
^^ Haha, I was about to say lexan kaso baka sabihin nila na masyado na akong atribido at pakialamero, matapos pintasan ang plano nilang polycarbonate eh magsa-suggest pa. :D But yeah, lexan is good, great optical properties, and of course the durability ang toughness, kahit magbatuhan kayo ng mga gamit pag nag-away kayo eh okay lang. :tongue2:

about how much naman ang lexan? :)

gen1
October 30th, 2007, 02:10 PM
^^

http://www.polymerplastics.com/transparents_lexan.shtml

mongka
November 2nd, 2007, 06:12 AM
H! I've lurking and enjoying the posts for several months now. It's great to hear and see that Serendra is shaping up quite well. Any of you guys have pictures of the Central Garden? Would appreciate if you can post some. Thanks!

Raktak
November 4th, 2007, 01:02 AM
H! I've lurking and enjoying the posts for several months now. It's great to hear and see that Serendra is shaping up quite well. Any of you guys have pictures of the Central Garden? Would appreciate if you can post some. Thanks!

Here are some pics from www.oneserendra.com of the central garden.

http://www.oneserendra.com/images/news/pic_17-03.jpg

http://www.oneserendra.com/images/news/pic_17-04.jpg

3cr
November 4th, 2007, 09:13 AM
Bonifacio Global City to offer more attractions in last quarter

Emerging business districts face a common challenge: how to get more people to frequent it. New areas that have masterplanned development to systematically attract investors and visitors alike are in the best position to be tomorrow’s premier locations, says sound urban planning.

Today, office and residential buildings and a number of shopping and entertainment complexes have established the development momentum for Bonifacio Global City . Pedestrian traffic to Bonifacio High Street and Market!Market! alone has significantly increased in the past year. The combined retail establishments in both areas numbering to over 350 cater to a range of shoppers and are quickly becoming compelling reasons for more and more Metro Manila residents to consider the 240-hectare area a premier destination.

Jun Bisnar, head of commercial operations of Fort Bonifacio Development Corp. which is developing the area, relates that in the next few months, more events and developments have been lined up to draw visitors to this dynamic section of Taguig City .

Bonifacio Global City will soon become a preferred Christmas destination with the launching of Sparks of Passion Light and Music Festival, a novel light and music show that offers a multisensory Christmas experience. Unlike most other Christmas events, Sparks of Passion allows visitors to fully savor the Christmas spirit primarily through the relaxed but carefully-planned ambience of Bonifacio Global City ‘s various venues — particularly the kilometer-long Bonifacio High Street. From November 10 to December 30, upbeat contemporary Christmas music synchronized with programmed Christmas lights will help visitors to truly feel and experience the merry mood of the season. The daily 15-minute music and light show which will run from 7 p.m. to midnight will also be presented at The Fort where a towering Christmas tree has been set up in f ront of Embassy.

Every last quarter of the year, Bonifacio Global City also becomes the venue for Metro Manila’s best-known holiday bargain haunts. At the peak of the holiday season, thousands of shoppers flock to Market!Market!’s stores offering food delicacies from all the regions of the country, fruits, flowers, and other items at very low prices. An average of 3,000 shoppers a day also flock to the NBC Tent near The Fort retail strip in search of gift items like apparel, kitchenware and home décor with US brands that are made in the Philippines or which are one-of-a-kind pieces by artistic entrepreneurs—all at bargain prices. Similar items as well as fruits, some fireworks and other homemade items are sold at Streetshops near the restaurants at The Fort.



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Very Nice! Iba talaga ang pasko sa Pinas! :okay::okay:



Pasko na po sa Pinas....

Photo taken at The Fort, Oct 18, 2007.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i143/cynchyap/BGC-2007/IMG_3593.jpg

Photo taken Nov 5, 2007 at Bonifacio High Street.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i143/cynchyap/BGC-2007/blog_110507_BoniHigh_Cynch.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i143/cynchyap/BGC-2007/blog_110507_BoniHigh1.jpg

mongka
November 5th, 2007, 04:37 AM
Here are some pics from www.oneserendra.com of the central garden.

http://www.oneserendra.com/images/news/pic_17-03.jpg

http://www.oneserendra.com/images/news/pic_17-04.jpg

Thanks! In the first picture, which one is Section A? Is it the one at the back? I am trying to visualize our future unit, we got a 7th floor unit in Section D.

bartman
November 5th, 2007, 08:30 AM
Thanks! In the first picture, which one is Section A? Is it the one at the back? I am trying to visualize our future unit, we got a 7th floor unit in Section D.

the building on the left (and most likely from where the picture was taken) is section a

mongka
November 5th, 2007, 08:49 AM
the building on the left (and most likely from where the picture was taken) is section a

Thanks Bartman. I get it now, the building at the back must still be part of Section A. It's the wing that's on the 11th Ave side. Then Section D should be located behind the building on the right.

theOCdiva
November 7th, 2007, 07:41 AM
Hi all and thanks again for the pictures. Serendra is really a dream come true. I bet all those who've moved in are having a great time, like Lauren and Bartman, to name two. I hope to do the same come June, 2008.
Can someone please post pictures of Two Serendra, Section C? The supposedly turn-over is June, 2008 and not December, 2008. I'd like to know if this is realistic or far-fetched. I prefer a Christmas delivery but it may not be. Thanks much! :)

gen1
November 7th, 2007, 09:47 AM
One Serendra B & C is the one being delivered this december. If what they did for section A of two serendra is the standard, then delivery for two serendra B & C should follow a few months later.

Sinjin P.
November 8th, 2007, 12:21 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2222/1911932763_eb8a5c6d7b_o.jpg

update by franzlouis - Flickr (http://flickr.com/photos/18438482@N06/)

theOCdiva
November 9th, 2007, 06:09 AM
If I'm not mistaken, the construction site is Section D/E. Section C (where my unit's at) is along 26th and McKinley, somewhere on the right of your posted picture but not shown. That guy balancing on the rebar is something else - only in the Philippines! :nuts:
Best regards.

OilMover
November 9th, 2007, 07:01 AM
If I'm not mistaken, the construction site is Section D/E. Section C (where my unit's at) is along 26th and McKinley, somewhere on the right of your posted picture but not shown. That guy balancing on the rebar is something else - only in the Philippines! :nuts:
Best regards.

That is Section E, Two Serendra, on the corner. When I spoke to my agent about a month ago, he told me that they are already on the third floor. It appears that they have added another floor since then.:banana:

noahsheart
November 14th, 2007, 03:23 AM
hello everybody newbie here... glad to meet you all!!! thanks for all the 411 on Serendra One, I would like to find out if theres any update on Serendra One Section D? Can somebody post of new pic. Thank you..

theOCdiva
November 16th, 2007, 07:39 AM
Hello all,
I saw an ad for a 1 bdrm, One Serendra, 5.5M, furnished. Does anyone know if this is a good deal?

Cheers! :)

joybook_5000
November 16th, 2007, 12:27 PM
Hello all,
I saw an ad for a 1 bdrm, One Serendra, 5.5M, furnished. Does anyone know if this is a good deal?

Cheers! :)

^^ IMO good deal sya sa price dahil furnished na sya :)

bartman
November 17th, 2007, 12:09 AM
Hello all,
I saw an ad for a 1 bdrm, One Serendra, 5.5M, furnished. Does anyone know if this is a good deal?

Cheers! :)

^^ IMO good deal sya sa price dahil furnished na sya :)

that would be a very good deal
make sure it's legit

Cropduster
November 17th, 2007, 06:58 AM
Hello all,
I saw an ad for a 1 bdrm, One Serendra, 5.5M, furnished. Does anyone know if this is a good deal?

Cheers! :)

Are you sure it's not Two Serendra? I was just browsing sulit.com and saw a 1br in two serendra, furnished for 5.5m.

gen1
November 17th, 2007, 07:49 AM
the smallest condo in one serendra section a is 64m2+6m2 balcony, and as per the july 2004 pricelist it pre sold for 5,800,000.

baka may white lady kaya murang-mura :lol: