^^ we're not being billed yet... so far

they may all be ayala companies, i understand; but different units have their own budgets and that's how it registered in my mind.

i may be taking the analogy too far, and philippine corporations may not have the same restrictions as US companies. i've seen how it works in the US both in the gov't and in the US civilian industry where one part of the company within a corporation is treated the same way as any of its competitors.

moreover, i really didn't care which companies will be charged with maintenance; i only wanted to find out the cost :)

yeah, I know what you mean. Federal Acquisition Regulations, FAR. :)

Still, I'd be more comfortable if there was some sort of a homeowner peopled oversight committee to look into the pricing of the fees. jus' to keep 'em honest.

yeah, I know what you mean. Federal Acquisition Regulations, FAR. :)

Still, I'd be more comfortable if there was some sort of a homeowner peopled oversight committee to look into the pricing of the fees. jus' to keep 'em honest.

wouldn't the condo owners' assn have some oversight (if and when we get organized)?

yup, when it get's organized. in the interim i think at least the section A people should be consulted regarding the fees. or shown the computations.

they would be more or less settled by now and not as giddy as the homeowners whose units are just being turned over.

yup, when it get's organized. in the interim i think at least the section A people should be consulted regarding the fees. or shown the computations.

they would be more or less settled by now and not as giddy as the homeowners whose units are just being turned over.

being the first one or two resident(s) there, i surely am interested :)
just out of curiosity though

The Piazza, Market Market, and the Bonif High Street is now becoming the choice of place for eating, Dining and entertaining friends, family, significant others. You will see a lot of foreigners, balikbayan people, Volvos and Mercedez Benz cars dropping off people to eat @ Serendra Restaurants/Bonif High Street and most importantly , people of all walks of life. You will see them as you go out of your unit. Depending on your budget, taste and mood, there are so many places to choose from. After experiencing the restaurants in Serendra and Bonif High Street, we started going at Market Market"Central Market" type eating places. Luv the new Central Market! My one of the big reasons why I did buy into Serendra! :) We just love the variety of the food being offered and of course, cheaper than the other restaurants and the place is clean. If you do not feel cooking at your unit, you can just buy a take out at Market Market and bring the food to your unit. So Serendrans, you are truly the envy of many people because every thing is right there around you. You have more options available than others.

My Next posting will be shots of the New Years fireworks @ Serendra overlooking Ortigas, Makati Skyline and Baclaran side.

Sincerely,

FIL-AM CAT Ding Ding



This is what Serendrans should be looking forward every New Year's Eve at Serendra. It was a non-stop 2 hour fireworks (10-12) from the Ortigas side all the way to the Makati and Baclaran side How about a wine and cheese party at the top of the tower buildings on both Serendra1 and 2 when they are finally done in whenever. Then, we can see 180 degrees fireworks around the development. They also had a party at Bonif High Street sponsored by SAMSUNG, Inc. See you guys next year!!! It was an awesome experience indeed to spend New Year's eve in the Philippines especially at Serendra.
Another benefit of living in our condo.

Sincerely,

FIL-AM CAT Ding Ding

YES, lets! Check on the BGC citizen thread and join one of the EBs (eyeball) or meets, too!

Thank you for the wonderful panoramas and the wonderful insights, FACDD! :)

Concerning Condo dues, I was there last month and was told by a reliable source that the monthly dues will be P90 per sq meter for 2 Serendra and P94 or higher for 1 Serendra. Their plan is to start charging monthly condo dues by 1 April . Anyway, I hoping you guys like the panoramic New Year's pictures as it is an awesome experience from our Condo. You have to be there to experience it.

Anyway, we are almost done on the makeover of my studio unit @ 2 Serendra and my cousin will start working on my 1 bedroom in One Serendra, Section B. I am thinking that my biggest expense will be the following:

1. 2 split type air conditioning system. A 2.5 hp for the living room and a 1.5 hp for the bedroom. Do you have any recommended brand and store that we can get this? We want a reliable one and energy efficient. I am willing to pay a little bit more for an energy efficient appliances and air conditioning. How much money should I budget for this including installation?

2. Water Heater. I was shown during the punch list that there is a space near the bathroom for a water heater system type that can supply all the faucets in the unit. For example, the bathroom, kitchen and the sink by the bathroom. Is this type of water heater a tank less type heater or the one with the tank. I really prefer the tank less heating system that is on demand only. That is the most energy efficient system. My question is what type of water heater system do you guys have at One Serendra? The one in my studio unit at 2 Serendra is only for the shower room. Is it really necessary to supply all faucets with hot water since it is not that cold there in the Philippines. In the States, hot water is a necessity so we have an oil burner for heating and hot water. If possible, please let me know where I can get this system and how much I should budget for this?

3. Washer and Dryer. I prefer the front loading type washer coz it saves electricity and also water usage by more than 50%. I think water at BGC is expensive so as electric. I have a hunch that spending a little bit more now will save in the long run. Need your opinion on what you guys have and the store for the best price and quality, brand and etc.

4. Gas connection to my gas range. Now is it true that it will cost me P15K just for somebody to connect my gas range to the centralized gas system there at One Serendra? Now that is $375 expense for me and how come it is so expensive? I can connect one myself. I hope this is not true at all. Please let me know the truth about this.

5. Any other additional expenses that I need to budget for so I don't get blinded on the sideline?

I appreciate any information you guys can give to me. Thank U

Sincerely,

FIL-AM CAT Ding Ding

^^
1. budget about P70,000.00 for the two AC units. that's total installed cost. the rules and information book you should have received for one serendra has information on recommended AC brands. you can go to abenson at market2. they have different brands available. when i was shopping, it seemed to me that prices from other stores were roughly the same.

2. water heater is tank type, electric. i had a 20 gallon one installed. cost roughly P20,000.00. you are NOT allowed any other type of water heater in one serendra. you may NOT install a shower only unit. go to home depot for this.

3. washer and dryer also electric. i had front loading stackable units installed. sourced also from abensons at market2. the biggest gripe i have with front loaders is the length of washing and drying time; it takes hours. check with your store rep.

4. i opted to have all electric burners for my stove. works well enough for me. actually, i'm not sure the darned thing works. i haven't used it since installation almost a year ago :)

5. cable tv service, internet, and phone

Not a few people told me that Serendra is ugly at the outside, with rich people (read: mostly the professional OFWs; rich but exceptionally friendly, though, it seems) living in cheap tenement-like buildings... but I think nothing beats the location and the maintenance of the place. I guess that covers the premium attached to the Ayala name.

being the first one or two resident(s) there, i surely am interested :)
just out of curiosity though

brings a whole new meaning to the word ONE Serendra.

you have my vote :)

but I hope there will be no need to moderate their greed :jk:

:lol: couldn't resist the crack. the ayala people are known for integrity. they don't even pay npa revolutionary taxes, an immoral tax for them. that's why their cell sites are burned down on a regular basis in bicol.

Anyway, we are almost done on the makeover of my studio unit @ 2 Serendra and my cousin will start working on my 1 bedroom in One Serendra, Section B. I am thinking that my biggest expense will be the following:

1. 2 split type air conditioning system. A 2.5 hp for the living room and a 1.5 hp for the bedroom. Do you have any recommended brand and store that we can get this? We want a reliable one and energy efficient. I am willing to pay a little bit more for an energy efficient appliances and air conditioning. How much money should I budget for this including installation?

2. Water Heater. I was shown during the punch list that there is a space near the bathroom for a water heater system type that can supply all the faucets in the unit. For example, the bathroom, kitchen and the sink by the bathroom. Is this type of water heater a tank less type heater or the one with the tank. I really prefer the tank less heating system that is on demand only. That is the most energy efficient system. My question is what type of water heater system do you guys have at One Serendra? The one in my studio unit at 2 Serendra is only for the shower room. Is it really necessary to supply all faucets with hot water since it is not that cold there in the Philippines. In the States, hot water is a necessity so we have an oil burner for heating and hot water. If possible, please let me know where I can get this system and how much I should budget for this?

3. Washer and Dryer. I prefer the front loading type washer coz it saves electricity and also water usage by more than 50%. I think water at BGC is expensive so as electric. I have a hunch that spending a little bit more now will save in the long run. Need your opinion on what you guys have and the store for the best price and quality, brand and etc.


FIL-AM CAT Ding Ding


The more energy efficient split AC's would be the inverter types. However not many local brands carry these and they are more expensive than conventional splits. The only one I know of is Panasonic and they only have 1.5hp at ~36.5T and 1.75hp~42.4T. Installation cost vary from free to 5t depending on the length of tubing needed. They will usually survey your place to give you the recommended ratings and costs.

If you should be allowed to used tankless multipoint heaters, there are many brands at Home depot (Panasonic, Champs?, AEG? etc.) 6Kw 220v). Price range 8-10T. It's not necessary to have hot water in the sink, but it's nice, and usually the higher end developments would have this plumbing ready. I wonder why Serendra would only allow tanked heaters? Limitation of tankless is they would have to be close to the area of need, within 5 meters if I'm not mistaken.

Front washer and dryers, Elba is cheaper than Electrolux. I got elba's at about 40T for both with the stacking kits. Altho I havent used them so I really dunno how efficient they are.
Abenson and Anson's are good sources as are SM. You can probably ask for cash discounts. Anson's gave me about 3-10%.

Not a few people told me that Serendra is ugly at the outside, with rich people (read: mostly the professional OFWs; rich but exceptionally friendly, though, it seems) living in cheap tenement-like buildings... but I think nothing beats the location and the maintenance of the place. I guess that covers the premium attached to the Ayala name.


True. That's branding for you! :cheers:

^^
1. budget about P70,000.00 for the two AC units. that's total installed cost. the rules and information book you should have received for one serendra has information on recommended AC brands. you can go to abenson at market2. they have different brands available. when i was shopping, it seemed to me that prices from other stores were roughly the same.

2. water heater is tank type, electric. i had a 20 gallon one installed. cost roughly P20,000.00. you are NOT allowed any other type of water heater in one serendra. you may NOT install a shower only unit. go to home depot for this.

3. washer and dryer also electric. i had front loading stackable units installed. sourced also from abensons at market2. the biggest gripe i have with front loaders is the length of washing and drying time; it takes hours. check with your store rep.

4. i opted to have all electric burners for my stove. works well enough for me. actually, i'm not sure the darned thing works. i haven't used it since installation almost a year ago :)

5. cable tv service, internet, and phone


:lol: :lol: that's the reason why i have a minimalist kitchen :colgate: lot's of restos to choose from anyways :)

^^Lauren, convert mo na lang kaya ang kitchen mo to a 3rd bedroom ! :lol::lol:

^^
1. budget about P70,000.00 for the two AC units. that's total installed cost. the rules and information book you should have received for one serendra has information on recommended AC brands. you can go to abenson at market2. they have different brands available. when i was shopping, it seemed to me that prices from other stores were roughly the same.



wrong info. that is NOT total cost. budget an additional P18K to P20K for the installation. :)

The more energy efficient split AC's would be the inverter types. However not many local brands carry these and they are more expensive than conventional splits. The only one I know of is Panasonic and they only have 1.5hp at ~36.5T and 1.75hp~42.4T. Installation cost vary from free to 5t depending on the length of tubing needed. They will usually survey your place to give you the recommended ratings and costs.

If you should be allowed to used tankless multipoint heaters, ...

in one serendra, ONLY split type ACs are allowed. no exceptions. let's NOT talk about other types as it only muddles up the real issue. same thing with the water heater. only storage tank type units allowed. it's up to the owner as far as tank capacity.

Not a few people told me that Serendra is ugly at the outside, with rich people (read: mostly the professional OFWs; rich but exceptionally friendly, though, it seems) living in cheap tenement-like buildings... but I think nothing beats the location and the maintenance of the place. I guess that covers the premium attached to the Ayala name.

True. That's branding for you! :cheers:

sometimes, i start thinking like i'm from missouri...

SHOW ME a cheap tenement building with granite hallway floors, narra hardwood floors, granite countertops, etc. and with sparkling swimming pools, and a beautiful garden fit for weddings.

in one serendra, ONLY split type ACs are allowed. no exceptions. let's NOT talk about other types as it only muddles up the real issue.

"An inverter air conditioner uses an inverter circuit to regulate the rotational speed of the compressor to match the output of the compressor to the cooling pump load. This reduces the number of times the compressor stops and starts as the load varies, so saving on electricity bills and reducing noise levels compared to non-inverter models".
They look the same as any other split type airconditioner and are installed the same way. The differences are internal. However they boast energy savings of 30-50%.
I did not mean to muddle the issue. I only hoped to help somebody save money in the long term.

sometimes, i start thinking like i'm from missouri...

SHOW ME a cheap tenement building with granite hallway floors, narra hardwood floors, granite countertops, etc. and with sparkling swimming pools, and a beautiful garden fit for weddings.

You're living in one.

Wake up, kiddo.:banana:

"An inverter air conditioner uses an inverter circuit to regulate the rotational speed of the compressor to match the output of the compressor to the cooling pump load. This reduces the number of times the compressor stops and starts as the load varies, so saving on electricity bills and reducing noise levels compared to non-inverter models".
They look the same as any other split type airconditioner and are installed the same way. The differences are internal. However they boast energy savings of 30-50%.
I did not mean to muddle the issue. I only hoped to help somebody save money in the long term.
no, i have to apologize to you. that is indeed very good information.

You're living in one.

Wake up, kiddo.:banana:

heheheh and what in this definition fits serendra? :ohno:

A rundown, low-rental apartment building whose facilities and maintenance barely meet minimum standards. :nuts:

I can picture Bartman, Lauren, Gen1 and the others "laughing all the way to the bank"!:lol::lol:

Not a few people told me that Serendra is ugly at the outside, with rich people (read: mostly the professional OFWs; rich but exceptionally friendly, though, it seems) living in cheap tenement-like buildings... but I think nothing beats the location and the maintenance of the place. I guess that covers the premium attached to the Ayala name.

Stringrequiem:
In a way you are right, but as an investor and professional OFW, I bought in Serendra for its simplicity, exclusivity, location and reliable Ayala franchise.

I live in NYC currently, a city loaded with buildings with "ugly" exterior but super great interiors. Being true to the concept of work+live+play like Manhattan and BGC, the beauty of the area has a lot to do with the human side of things - a cosmopolitan environment composed of diverse cultures and at Serendra "exceptionally friendly people". All these in the backdrop of walkable world class structures may it be "cheap" or ostentatious.

As for BGC, there are perhaps better looking buildings than Serendra but in the long term, who knows what they will look like. We should probably revisit your comment in 10 yrs and see which building holds up.
AIR+LIGHT+SPACE

Bart and Hoyimid,

Thank U very much for the information about ACs, washers and dryers, etc. My cousin will look into the inverter type A/C that is split type and find out whether the increase cost is well worth in the long run. If I could not get the inverter type A/C, I will just go for the high SEERS A/C Split Type. I am hoping that these units have a timer, programming capability , etc.

Concerning the water heater, I will ask One Serendra Architect and Engineer whether they will accept a tank less type water heater. The one with the tank is OK;however, they are not energy efficient because it will keep heating the water even though we are not at home. I have a one bedroom and the kitchen, bathroom sink, and the shower room should be within 5 meters distance. I let you guys know what they have to say. If they say no, I have no choice but to install the tank type water heater. Have to follow rules and regulations.

Bart, I am not sure why your front loading washer takes so much time to wash and dry your clothes. This type of washer is supposed to be "HE"-high efficiency washer and the clothes should be 75% dry because of the high RPM spin. I have one at home and it uses 50% less water and also consume less electricity. Last month, I went to Anson's at Market2 and I really don't like the top loading washer and dryer that is side by side. It seems they will not last long . I will have my cousin look into this.

Now, is there anybody there that has a gas range at One Serendra? I heard that it will cost me P15,000 just for somebody to come in and install a hose to a gas range and fire up the gas line. I am not sure why it cost so much? I appreciate some information on this.

Additionally, is there anybody there that already paid their electric connection and also property tax? When I made my final payment for my one bedroom, Ayala front loaded my property tax so as the electric connection. They are not small change though. I paid these but is that an acceptable business practice there? Their reason is that they want the money available when Taguig City and Meralco start charging these. In the meantime, they have the money in their Kitty. Here in the States, the money will earn interest rate for the owner until the money is use for the intended purpose. I am really confused about this and maybe you guys can give me some light on this.

Thanks again for the information provided and well appreciated.

Sincerely,

FIL-AM CAT Ding Ding

@Bart, you forgot about the full power back-up in case of power outages and concierge (very nice & quite helpful, if i may say so :okay:)



i love the laid back country club & resort-like atmosphere & amenities at Serendra... all that in the middle of BGC! plus, judging from my neighbors in this thread as well as the ones i've met, i'm in good company... :)

@Bart, you forgot about the full power back-up in case of power outages and concierge (very nice & quite helpful, if i may say so :okay:)



i love the laid back country club & resort-like atmosphere & amenities at Serendra... all that in the middle of BGC! plus, judging from my neighbors in this thread as well as the ones i've met, i'm in good company... :)

i just had to say something. this thread has mainly serendra residents and i just really find it hard to understand why some people would come and post just to put down what is tantamount to MY home. didn't their parents teach them manners?

or perhaps that poster did NOT understand what a tenement house is? i mean if he did and still finds serendra to barely meet minimum standards, then the sultan of brunei's palace must be run of the mill for him :lol:

Additionally, is there anybody there that already paid their electric connection and also property tax? When I made my final payment for my one bedroom, Ayala front loaded my property tax so as the electric connection. They are not small change though. I paid these but is that an acceptable business practice there? Their reason is that they want the money available when Taguig City and Meralco start charging these. In the meantime, they have the money in their Kitty. Here in the States, the money will earn interest rate for the owner until the money is use for the intended purpose. I am really confused about this and maybe you guys can give me some light on this.


i accepted my unit in section A, One Serendra almost a year ago. Received my copy of the tax declaration from ALP around Nov 2007 with a letter informing me that i will have to pay the RPT (real property tax) starting Jan 2008. i paid the full annual RPT in January and got a 10% discount.

I also inquired about the RPT with the customer service people, with the view of availing of the Jan discounts. Sa section C hindi pa raw kami kailangang mag bayad ng RPT since it's not yet turned over.

^^ most likely, you'll start paying in 2009 pa. BTW, if the annual RPT for the following year is paid in full in Dec of the year before that we get a 20% discount... which is why i'm planning to pay 2009 RPT this coming december to avail of the 20% discount

Bart, I am not sure why your front loading washer takes so much time to wash and dry your clothes. This type of washer is supposed to be "HE"-high efficiency washer and the clothes should be 75% dry because of the high RPM spin. I have one at home and it uses 50% less water and also consume less electricity. Last month, I went to Anson's at Market2 and I really don't like the top loading washer and dryer that is side by side. It seems they will not last long . I will have my cousin look into this.

Additionally, is there anybody there that already paid their electric connection and also property tax? When I made my final payment for my one bedroom, Ayala front loaded my property tax so as the electric connection. They are not small change though. I paid these but is that an acceptable business practice there? Their reason is that they want the money available when Taguig City and Meralco start charging these. In the meantime, they have the money in their Kitty. Here in the States, the money will earn interest rate for the owner until the money is use for the intended purpose. I am really confused about this and maybe you guys can give me some light on this.

Thanks again for the information provided and well appreciated.

Sincerely,

FIL-AM CAT Ding Ding

how about there should be shorter wash cycles than what i was using? :lol:

the advance electric charge seems unusual. my experience has been that the admin office is roughly 2 months behind in collecting electric and water consumption charges. this is in one serendra; i have no idea how it works over at two serendra.

when i left before christmas last year, i was paid up for until the month of september or october (i have the receipts in manila). i asked the admin office if they could try to figure out my bills so i can pay up until the then current month of december as i may be away for a few months. they said it wasn't feasible, and like when i left in july, it was not a big deal.

our one serendra engineer is arnold. you can't miss him. he's the very likeable chubby guy who's always available to help out and answer questions. please extend my regards if you run into him. :)

re: metered LPG - I think the 15T is the initial payment to cover the costs associated in bringing the gas to your unit, which includes the meter, etc. Monthly costs will depend on usage.. for an average use, it's about 400 to 500 pesos a month almost the same as 11kgs LPG tank.

re: RPT - that is correct, if you pay on or before Dec. 31 (previous year), you will get 20% discount. If you pay from January to March (current year), I think there's 10% discount. Computation is approx. Php170.00 per sqm. (around 17T+ for a 100sqm unit).

^^erwin, mamaya ba yung alikabok ng bituin o kagabi pa? :lol:

re: RPT - that is correct, if you pay on or before Dec. 31 (previous year), you will get 20% discount. If you pay from January to March (current year), I think there's 10% discount. Computation is approx. Php170.00 per sqm. (around 17T+ for a 100sqm unit).


the tax is 2% of assessed value indicated in the tax declaration... erwin is right, mine came out roughly Php170.00 per sqm

shhh ano yan? di ko alam yan..

^^erwin, mamaya ba yung alikabok ng bituin o kagabi pa? :lol:

Been lurking on here for a bit finally registered today mainly to inquire if anybody knows if the hallway flooring tiles at 2 Serendra will be replaced? It is just UGLY and not to mention GRIMY looking. Being one of the first (if not the first) resident of 2 Serendra I assumed these would be replaced eventually but have not been. I am sure any resident of 2 Serendra know what I am talking about.
It has been a nice 5 or 6 months so far but DUSTY!

Just thought I would post some additional info on my limited knowledge of Inverter type A/C...Had several of those installed at my moms place several years ago. It is true they are quite energy efficient and all, HOWEVER, they are VERY EXPENSIVE to repair. My mom decided to just replace all 4 units she had instead of repairing them with regular split A/Cs. It costs that much to fix as the usual problem occurs in the inverter circuit board...
Hope the info helps.

Stringrequiem:
In a way you are right, but as an investor and professional OFW, I bought in Serendra for its simplicity, exclusivity, location and reliable Ayala franchise.

I live in NYC currently, a city loaded with buildings with "ugly" exterior but super great interiors. Being true to the concept of work+live+play like Manhattan and BGC, the beauty of the area has a lot to do with the human side of things - a cosmopolitan environment composed of diverse cultures and at Serendra "exceptionally friendly people". All these in the backdrop of walkable world class structures may it be "cheap" or ostentatious.

As for BGC, there are perhaps better looking buildings than Serendra but in the long term, who knows what they will look like. We should probably revisit your comment in 10 yrs and see which building holds up.
AIR+LIGHT+SPACE

Pardon the light-hearted remark, but Serendra is really the place to be. Majority think its architecture is so-so, but when people say they live in the Fort, people ask if it's in Serendra.

What better compliment could there be?

i just had to say something. this thread has mainly serendra residents and i just really find it hard to understand why some people would come and post just to put down what is tantamount to MY home. didn't their parents teach them manners?

or perhaps that poster did NOT understand what a tenement house is? i mean if he did and still finds serendra to barely meet minimum standards, then the sultan of brunei's palace must be run of the mill for him :lol:

So lighten up, kiddo. :nuts:

Is it true na may rat infestation daw in Serendra ESPECIALLY those units directly above the restaurants in Serendra. May unit owner daw na nag pa inspect sa pest control people then pag tingin daw sa loob ng poste puro daga raw nasa loob.

^^ hindi ako naniniwala diyan.

galing sa ibang condo ang mga dagang yan.

:jk:

For 2 Serendra Section A Unit Owners/Residents: Did you guys pay an "ELECTRIC METERING FEE" of approx. Php25,000-30,000?
I had paid for my unit (1BR with Parking) in FULL upon turnover last year and was surprised I had to pay an additional Php25-30K as Electric Metering Fee? Shouldnt electricity to the unit be a given and part of the unit price?
Currently waiting for the DEED for both Unit and Parking which is taking VERY LONG (almost 3 months now).
Thanks.

i just had to say something. this thread has mainly serendra residents and i just really find it hard to understand why some people would come and post just to put down what is tantamount to MY home. didn't their parents teach them manners? I feel mutilated, too. But mutilation is another form of flattery. So I feel flattered as well that some have to give a bother. :)



@Bart, you forgot about the full power back-up in case of power outages and concierge (very nice & quite helpful, if i may say so :okay:)

i love the laid back country club & resort-like atmosphere & amenities at Serendra... all that in the middle of BGC! plus, judging from my neighbors in this thread as well as the ones i've met, i'm in good company... :) Ditto, Lauren! :)

re: RPT - that is correct, if you pay on or before Dec. 31 (previous year), you will get 20% discount. If you pay from January to March (current year), I think there's 10% discount. Computation is approx. Php170.00 per sqm. (around 17T+ for a 100sqm unit).


the discount is 10% for full payments made within January only. it's 8 or 8.5% within Feb... i dunno about March but i'm sure it's less than that.

5% na nga lang yata pag March..

and you guys can pay at the city treasurer satellite office at Market Market..

the discount is 10% for full payments made within January only. it's 8 or 8.5% within Feb... i dunno about March but i'm sure it's less than that.

^^ hindi ako naniniwala diyan.

galing sa ibang condo ang mga dagang yan.

:jk:

:bash::bash::nuts: O baka dala nung pest control inspector yung mga daga! bwahahahh..joke lang..:lol:

[QUOTE=FIL-AM CAT DING DING;18560880]Bart and Hoyimid,

Thank U very much for the information about ACs, washers and dryers, etc. My cousin will look into the inverter type A/C that is split type and find out whether the increase cost is well worth in the long run. If I could not get the inverter type A/C, I will just go for the high SEERS A/C Split Type. I am hoping that these units have a timer, programming capability , etc.

Concerning the water heater, I will ask One Serendra Architect and Engineer whether they will accept a tank less type water heater. The one with the tank is OK;however, they are not energy efficient because it will keep heating the water even though we are not at home. I have a one bedroom and the kitchen, bathroom sink, and the shower room should be within 5 meters distance. I let you guys know what they have to say. If they say no, I have no choice but to install the tank type water heater. Have to follow rules and regulations.

Bart, I am not sure why your front loading washer takes so much time to wash and dry your clothes. This type of washer is supposed to be "HE"-high efficiency washer and the clothes should be 75% dry because of the high RPM spin. I have one at home and it uses 50% less water and also consume less electricity. Last month, I went to Anson's at Market2 and I really don't like the top loading washer and dryer that is side by side. It seems they will not last long . I will have my cousin look into this.

Now, is there anybody there that has a gas range at One Serendra? I heard that it will cost me P15,000 just for somebody to come in and install a hose to a gas range and fire up the gas line. I am not sure why it cost so much? I appreciate some information on this.

Additionally, is there anybody there that already paid their electric connection and also property tax? When I made my final payment for my one bedroom, Ayala front loaded my property tax so as the electric connection. They are not small change though. I paid these but is that an acceptable business practice there? Their reason is that they want the money available when Taguig City and Meralco start charging these. In the meantime, they have the money in their Kitty. Here in the States, the money will earn interest rate for the owner until the money is use for the intended purpose. I am really confused about this and maybe you guys can give me some light on this.

Thanks again for the information provided and well appreciated.

Sincerely,

]FIL-AM CAT Ding Ding[/QUOTE

:)Hi! Stick with Carrier ACs (high SEER) if I were you 'coz your condo maintenance personnel can also service them after the warranty has expired; and so far, all is well with ours. Re. space saver front loading washer and dryer, check out the largest LG with water heater and its mating LG or Whirpool electric dryer. If space permits, get the full size since they're stackable. We have the LG washer/Whirpool dryer setup. Again, we've been very satisfied with their performance. Good luck and regards!:):)

Been lurking on here for a bit finally registered today mainly to inquire if anybody knows if the hallway flooring tiles at 2 Serendra will be replaced? It is just UGLY and not to mention GRIMY looking. Being one of the first (if not the first) resident of 2 Serendra I assumed these would be replaced eventually but have not been. I am sure any resident of 2 Serendra know what I am talking about.
It has been a nice 5 or 6 months so far but DUSTY!

I hope CII management does not turn these critics (tenement?) into prophets and start doing something about these problems.....hopefully, before my turnover date. :lol: BTW, has anyone made sure that the rats are not the two-legged variety. There's quite a few of them where I work. :lol:

I hope CII management does not turn these critics (tenement?) into prophets and start doing something about these problems.....hopefully, before my turnover date. :lol: BTW, has anyone made sure that the rats are not the two-legged variety. There's quite a few of them where I work. :lol:

hi! talking about the hallway floor finish, isn't that the most hedius thing? it is so ugly. i was there last december and i was very dissapointed with the hallway finishing. it is a cement material with texture stamp.

I've already brought this up to the admin at Serendra 2 and they told me that that is the final finishing for the floor. they plan to have it repianted to the same color, BEIGE and ORANGE, just look like s....t

I hope CII management does not turn these critics (tenement?) into prophets and start doing something about these problems.....hopefully, before my turnover date. :lol: BTW, has anyone made sure that the rats are not the two-legged variety. There's quite a few of them where I work. :lol:

^^Pasensya na lang mga kaibigan at ingit lang ang mga tong iyan. Kahit saan tayo pumunta ay meron taong (daga?) ganyan. Regards!:)

Additionally, is there anybody there that already paid their electric connection and also property tax? When I made my final payment for my one bedroom, Ayala front loaded my property tax so as the electric connection. They are not small change though. I paid these but is that an acceptable business practice there? Their reason is that they want the money available when Taguig City and Meralco start charging these. In the meantime, they have the money in their Kitty. Here in the States, the money will earn interest rate for the owner until the money is use for the intended purpose. I am really confused about this and maybe you guys can give me some light on this.

I am confused as well reading your post.:)

hi! talking about the hallway floor finish, isn't that the most hedius thing? it is so ugly. i was there last december and i was very dissapointed with the hallway finishing. it is a cement material with texture stamp.

I've already brought this up to the admin at Serendra 2 and they told me that that is the final finishing for the floor. they plan to have it repianted to the same color, BEIGE and ORANGE, just look like s....t

Stamped concrete floorings in the hallways? That sounds like a backyard. Well I believe you about the "hideous" looking hallways, but I'm really curious though, do you have pictures of the hallways? Appreciate it if you can post them here.

I bet Serendra II hallways don't even bear a resemblance to to these stamped/satined conrete floorings? http://engravebydesign.com/concrete-pictures.html

Thanks.

I am confused as well reading you post.:)

@ProjM, the previous quote that you replied to was not mine. It's FIL-AM CAT's. I, myself, did not qiute understand the context of that message. My post related to Carrier ACs, etc. etc.. and simply said that no matter what one does "just can not please everyone". Regards!:)

here is a real gripe from a serendra owner (me)...

there was an abundance of mosquitoes in the lobby areas, hindi lang sa open seating area na katabi ng garden, pati sa counter area ng guards/concierge. all the plants and the shrubbery are most likely to blame. i doubt if the situation has changed by now. :ohno:

@ProjM, the previous quote that you replied to was not mine. It's FIL-AM CAT's. I, myself, did not qiute understand the context of that message. My post related to Carrier ACs, etc. etc.. and simply said that no matter what one does "just can not please everyone". Regards!:)
Sorry ChicagoTown, anyway I just changed my post to show FIl-AM-CAT as the original poster.:)

hi guys not sure if this helps as i've not seen the hallways myself and how bad it really is...i tried to inquire this myself with CII and the explanation given was quote "the use of painted cement for the hallway is part of the concept of the international consultant for the garden/outdoor/resort feel of the interior building..the flooring material done is not cheaper than the stone flooring material...the stains that you see are the result of the construction but will be restained and repolished prior to turnover to APMC"...i was also told by others that in the long run also it might be better than tiles as tiles are more porous and get stained over time...for granites, luster may fade and even darker shades (if it was of light color) to appear over time...maybe this is CII experimenting on different alternatives for the hallways and just hope they are doing the right thing...again i'm not an expert on this field but i guess i'll have to wait and see it for myself before i make my own personal comments about the hallways...siguro as long as it's not like walking in C5 or EDSA going to my unit, maybe it'll be fine with me as long as the workmanship is fine ..PAGING those who promised to post pics of the hallways:)


hi! talking about the hallway floor finish, isn't that the most hedius thing? it is so ugly. i was there last december and i was very dissapointed with the hallway finishing. it is a cement material with texture stamp.

I've already brought this up to the admin at Serendra 2 and they told me that that is the final finishing for the floor. they plan to have it repianted to the same color, BEIGE and ORANGE, just look like s....t

hi guys not sure if this helps as i've not seen the hallways myself and how bad it really is...i tried to inquire this myself with CII and the explanation given was quote "the use of painted cement for the hallway is part of the concept of the international consultant for the garden/outdoor/resort feel of the interior building..the flooring material done is not cheaper than the stone flooring material...the stains that you see are the result of the construction but will be restained and repolished prior to turnover to APMC"...i was also told by others that in the long run also it might be better than tiles as tiles are more porous and get stained over time...for granites, luster may fade and even darker shades (if it was of light color) to appear over time...:)

@Serendra_Lover: Thanks for the information but Ayala's excuses are ridiculous! Stamped concrete design is a FAUX, an imitation resembling something else like--for example tiles or granite slabs. Ayala hired "garden/outdoor/resort feel" consultants--to design the hallway? ahem...no comment.

If only if they could polish the concrete to look like the floor in the picture, then I'd be a happy camper.

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/8673/polishedconcreteen1.th.jpg (http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=polishedconcreteen1.jpg)

Thank U all for the information on the A/C, washer and dryer, water heater and etc. I might get something in the middle of the road Carrier A/C high SEER model. If the inverter type A/C is too much money and expensive to fix, it might not be worth it. However, we will still look into this. Any other recommended appliances, please let me know.

Now, on the question of Ayala front loading my Real Property Tax and the Electric meter fee. When I was about to make my final payment on my one bedroom @ One Serendra Section B, Ayala made a BTW note that I need to shell out more money for the property Tax. They collected P34K from me or $ 850 . Now many of you are informing me that the tax is only P170 per sq. meter. My one bedroom is 73 sq meters so my tax should only be P12,400. Their rationale is that this tax payment is collected in advance so that they have my money when the tax declaration is receive from the City. How about my 20% discount for early payment? Now, in the meantime, my money is sitting in their account collecting interest for them. I still do not have my one bedroom yet coz section B Serendra 1 still does have a Certificate of Occupancy(COO) issued from the City Engineer plus I have not accepted my unit yet coz they are still working on some discrepancies. I was told the COO will be received in April or later. Additionally, I do not have the title for the unit either. They, however, promised that whatever excess payment will be refunded to me. They did not tell me whether my money will earn interest rate for me or for them. I hope it will be in favor of owners like us and that is only fair. Thinking that if this kind of business practice will continue, the money they will collect will amount to hundred of thousands of pesos ,if not millions interest earnings for the Ayala Inc.

the second one that I got surprised is the other BTW, I owe an additional P30K charge for the electric meter service. I do not know where this came from so I have to shell out another $700+ for this . Here in the States, I have not heard of anybody paying $700 for an electrical meter or electric connection. It is pricey for me. I am thinking that we are also being required to pay for the purchase and installation of the electric meter for our unit. I am not sure if this is in the contract of sale that we signed.

The above 2 were not listed in the contract that I signed 3 years ago. It was a BTW and inserted on my final payment for my One Bedroom. What do you guys think about the issues that I brought up here? Do you think that we have a case on this?

Thanks,

FIL-AM CAT Ding Ding

Can you ask for a receipt from Ayala re:34K for RPT?? As far as I can remember, you pay for RPT on the next year after the unit is turned over to you as the current year is already paid for by the developer. So if the unit is turned over 2008. You won't be paying RPT until 2009.

RE: Electricity - this payment goes to MERALCO the electric provider, it is a deposit. It already includes the actual meter.



Now, on the question of Ayala front loading my Real Property Tax and the Electric meter fee. When I was about to make my final payment on my one bedroom @ One Serendra Section B, Ayala made a BTW note that I need to shell out more money for the property Tax. They collected P34K from me or $ 850 . Now many of you are informing me that the tax is only P170 per sq. meter. My one bedroom is 73 sq meters so my tax should only be P12,400. Their rationale is that this tax payment is collected in advance so that they have my money when the tax declaration is receive from the City. How about my 20% discount for early payment? Now, in the meantime, my money is sitting in their account collecting interest for them. I still do not have my one bedroom yet coz section B Serendra 1 still does have a Certificate of Occupancy(COO) issued from the City Engineer plus I have not accepted my unit yet coz they are still working on some discrepancies. I was told the COO will be received in April or later. Additionally, I do not have the title for the unit either. They, however, promised that whatever excess payment will be refunded to me. They did not tell me whether my money will earn interest rate for me or for them. I hope it will be in favor of owners like us and that is only fair. Thinking that if this kind of business practice will continue, the money they will collect will amount to hundred of thousands of pesos ,if not millions interest earnings for the Ayala Inc.

the second one that I got surprised is the other BTW, I owe an additional P30K charge for the electric meter service. I do not know where this came from so I have to shell out another $700+ for this . Here in the States, I have not heard of anybody paying $700 for an electrical meter or electric connection. It is pricey for me. I am thinking that we are also being required to pay for the purchase and installation of the electric meter for our unit. I am not sure if this is in the contract of sale that we signed.

The above 2 were not listed in the original. It was a BTW and inserted on my final payment for my One Bedroom. What do you guys think about the issues that I brought up here? Do you think that we have a case on this?

OT: On a lighter note, have you guys had a chance to watch the stream Journey Live (Chile) Video just concluded about an hour or so ago on the Net featuring Arnel Pineda ? He did great for the first show and he'll do better and better, I have no doubt. If you haven’t, here are the links of some of the YouTube vids that just popped-up. ^_^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt8jUDo01go
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alHNJNz9S0I

Thank U all for the information on the A/C, washer and dryer, water heater and etc. I might get something in the middle of the road Carrier A/C high SEER model. If the inverter type A/C is too much money and expensive to fix, it might not be worth it. However, we will still look into this. Any other recommended appliances, please let me know.

Now, on the question of Ayala front loading my Real Property Tax and the Electric meter fee. When I was about to make my final payment on my one bedroom @ One Serendra Section B, Ayala made a BTW note that I need to shell out more money for the property Tax. They collected P34K from me or $ 850 . Now many of you are informing me that the tax is only P170 per sq. meter. My one bedroom is 73 sq meters so my tax should only be P12,400. Their rationale is that this tax payment is collected in advance so that they have my money when the tax declaration is receive from the City. How about my 20% discount for early payment? Now, in the meantime, my money is sitting in their account collecting interest for them. I still do not have my one bedroom yet coz section B Serendra 1 still does have a Certificate of Occupancy(COO) issued from the City Engineer plus I have not accepted my unit yet coz they are still working on some discrepancies. I was told the COO will be received in April or later. Additionally, I do not have the title for the unit either. They, however, promised that whatever excess payment will be refunded to me. They did not tell me whether my money will earn interest rate for me or for them. I hope it will be in favor of owners like us and that is only fair. Thinking that if this kind of business practice will continue, the money they will collect will amount to hundred of thousands of pesos ,if not millions interest earnings for the Ayala Inc.

the second one that I got surprised is the other BTW, I owe an additional P30K charge for the electric meter service. I do not know where this came from so I have to shell out another $700+ for this . Here in the States, I have not heard of anybody paying $700 for an electrical meter or electric connection. It is pricey for me. I am thinking that we are also being required to pay for the purchase and installation of the electric meter for our unit. I am not sure if this is in the contract of sale that we signed.

The above 2 were not listed in the contract that I signed 3 years ago. It was a BTW and inserted on my final payment for my One Bedroom. What do you guys think about the issues that I brought up here? Do you think that we have a case on this?

Thanks,

FIL-AM CAT Ding Ding



if i'm not mistaken, the contract you signed 3 yrs ago was a contract to sell. after you've made your final payment you'll be signing a Deed of Absolute Sale... fr your post ^^ it sounds like you haven't gotten your DOAS yet. you'll get your CCT (title) several months after you've submitted the signed DOAS.

hi guys not sure if this helps as i've not seen the hallways myself and how bad it really is...i tried to inquire this myself with CII and the explanation given was quote "the use of painted cement for the hallway is part of the concept of the international consultant for the garden/outdoor/resort feel of the interior building..the flooring material done is not cheaper than the stone flooring material...the stains that you see are the result of the construction but will be restained and repolished prior to turnover to APMC"...i was also told by others that in the long run also it might be better than tiles as tiles are more porous and get stained over time...for granites, luster may fade and even darker shades (if it was of light color) to appear over time...maybe this is CII experimenting on different alternatives for the hallways and just hope they are doing the right thing...again i'm not an expert on this field but i guess i'll have to wait and see it for myself before i make my own personal comments about the hallways...siguro as long as it's not like walking in C5 or EDSA going to my unit, maybe it'll be fine with me as long as the workmanship is fine ..PAGING those who promised to post pics of the hallways:)

This international consultant.....is he world famous in Taguig? :lol::lol: Sounds like a used car salesman to me. :lol: Sorry...pre-owned car salesman. :lol:

not sure..but i think they are referring to moore ruble yudell architects if i am not mistaken...i checked out this company in the website and the design concept of serendra has resemblance to their residential housing projects in berlin and malmo..

Thanks again guys for the information on the Property Tax and the Electric meter charges. The money that they collected from me(P34K) should should pay for at least 3 years of property taxes starting in 2009. I will wait and see what they will do . The electric meter charge is kind of pricey for me($700).

Anyway, how about the P15K to connect the gas line to our gas stove? Any other inputs on this? please let me know if this is fair or the SOP in condos in the Philippines.

Here is the treat. I took these pictures in when the sun is almost setting at Bonif High Street Side. You can see the Makati and the Ortigas Skyline(the one with the One Book store(similar to Barnes and Nobles and Borders here in the States) and on the right side of the picture is the Ortigas Side. Enjoy..

Also if somebody out there has a recent picture of the entrance opening and garden of Section B, One Serendra, please post. My unit is on the third floor and I am kind of excited how the garden and the drop off entrance would look now. Thanks

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii224/rene1852/p12-2.jpg

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii224/rene1852/p13-1.jpg

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii224/rene1852/p14.jpg

I am really looking forward to living there in Serendra during Winter months in a few years. I was not able to go to work today coz of the winter storm in my area. Just look into this picture that I had taken today outside my place. Which one would you prefer to live at this time of the year ? Serendra and all its hallways and unusual design of buildings or living in a freezer like this? Need to tally your votes ladies and gentlemen!! Thanks that I have furs to protect me from the cold weather. FIL-AM CAT Ding Ding

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii224/rene1852/whouse3.jpg

^^I really like the first picture...wow great western view from your unit. I envy you. :)

FACDD - let's not bother with the votes on where to live during the winter months. it only gets to gloomy, cold, and wet here in the sf bay area and serendra wins hands down. i lived in omaha for more than two winters and that was enough for me. the only snow i want to experience now is fresh powder when i go skiing.

ono (chictown) - how is the windy city treating you?

OK, here it is. the picture of the hallway, tiles and the kitchen cabinet of my one studio Unit at 2 Serendra. These are the type of Kitchen cabinets that are installed at 2 Serendra whether you have a studio or 1-3 bedrooms unit. I have seen a 3 bedroom unit(2 Serendra) facing the Piazza and it has the same laminated type kitchen cabinet/counter top found on my studio unit. It is not really that bad as I really could able to tell the difference at a distance whether the cabinets are laminated or not , unless you really look very hard and start knocking on it. As I have said b4, the kitchen cabinet of my one bedroom at One Serendra is comparable to the one they are selling at Home Depot and Lowes Home Improvements here in the States. Of course, I have to shell out more money for the One Serendra One bedroom unit. You guys be the judge on the pictures shown here.

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii224/rene1852/countertop2.jpg

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii224/rene1852/hallway2.jpg

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii224/rene1852/hallway.jpg

And here is the kitchen cabinet of my One Bedroom at One Serendra, Section B with a granite counter top.

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii224/rene1852/P1010197-1.jpg

Any comments on these issues?

I like the last picture... :) stylish faucet too than the first one IMO.

FACDD - let's not bother with the votes on where to live during the winter months. it only gets to gloomy, cold, and wet here in the sf bay area and serendra wins hands down. i lived in omaha for more than two winters and that was enough for me. the only snow i want to experience now is fresh powder when i go skiing.

ono (chictown) - how is the windy city treating you?

:old: Hi Bart. Best wishes to and yours. Thanks for asking....it's awful, friend. Lalo akong tumatanda sa ginaw. Parang wala nang katapusan. Umiinit lang sa pakiramdam ko ay pag mataas ang presyon ko. Pati si Mrs. ay nagrereklamo na. Siguradong year 2009, BGC/Boni Ridge here we come! So Bart, pare ko, mag-aral ka na rin ng golf---Ayala Greenfield Estates and/or Manila golf. Take care and regards!:):):)

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii224/rene1852/p14.jpg

I am really looking forward to living there in Serendra during Winter months in a few years. I was not able to go to work today coz of the winter storm in my area. Just look into this picture that I had taken today outside my place. Which one would you prefer to live at this time of the year ? Serendra and all its hallways and unusual design of buildings or living in a freezer like this? Need to tally your votes ladies and gentlemen!! Thanks that I have furs to protect me from the cold weather. FIL-AM CAT Ding Ding

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii224/rene1852/whouse3.jpg

Are we from the same "neighborhood"? I had 5 inches of snow today. Got up early and fired up the old snow blower. Of course I'm gonna miss the snow, the below 0 wind chill, $400 heating bills, black ice, etc. when I finally settle down in my 2 Serendra unit.....NO I WON'T!!!!! :ohno:

OK, here it is. the picture of the hallway, tiles and the kitchen cabinet of my one studio Unit at 2 Serendra. These is the type of Kitchen cabinets that were installed at 2 Serendra whether you have a studio or 1-3 bedrooms unit. I have seen a 3 bedroom unit(2 Serendra) facing the Piazza and it has the same laminated type kitchen cabinet/counter top found on my studio unit. It is not really that bad and I would not be able to tell the difference whether it is laminated or not unless you really look very hard and start knocking on it. As I have said b4, the kitchen cabinet of my one bedroom at One Serendra is comparable to the one they are selling at Home Depot and Lowes Home Improvements here in the States. Of course, I have to shell out more money for that. You guys be the judge on the pictures shown here.

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii224/rene1852/countertop2.jpg

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii224/rene1852/hallway2.jpg

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii224/rene1852/hallway.jpg

And here is the kitchen cabinet of my One Bedroom at One Serendra, Section B with a granite counter top.

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii224/rene1852/P1010197-1.jpg

Any comments on these issues?

I'll probably end up replacing the kitchen cabinets, countertop and the sink since I'm going to spend a lot of time (god willing) in this condo. Love the 1 serendra kitchen cabinets....my favorite style, Shaker.

One Serendra kitchen looks very nice! ^^
Very solid cabinet handles... Cabinets looks expensive...

Big difference to the Two Serendra kitchen.
How much are the kitchen cabinets in the Philippines? Something similar to the one used in One Serendra...

Wow! While others could only dream of having a unit in Serendra... You got 2...
Condo Envy... :lol:

Thanks again guys for the information on the Property Tax and the Electric meter charges. The money that they collected from me(P34K) should should pay for at least 3 years of property taxes starting in 2009. I will wait and see what they will do . The electric meter charge is kind of pricey for me($700).

Anyway, how about the P15K to connect the gas line to our gas stove? Any other inputs on this? please let me know if this is fair or the SOP in condos in the Philippines.

Here is the treat. I took these pictures in when the sun is almost setting at Bonif High Street Side. You can see the Makati and the Ortigas Skyline(the one with the One Book store(similar to Barnes and Nobles and Borders here in the States) and on the right side of the picture is the Ortigas Side. Enjoy..

Also if somebody out there has a recent picture of the entrance opening and garden of Section B, One Serendra, please post. My unit is on the third floor and I am kind of excited how the garden and the drop off entrance would look now. Thanks

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii224/rene1852/p12-2.jpg

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii224/rene1852/p13-1.jpg

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii224/rene1852/p14.jpg

I am really looking forward to living there in Serendra during Winter months in a few years. I was not able to go to work today coz of the winter storm in my area. Just look into this picture that I had taken today outside my place. Which one would you prefer to live at this time of the year ? Serendra and all its hallways and unusual design of buildings or living in a freezer like this? Need to tally your votes ladies and gentlemen!! Thanks that I have furs to protect me from the cold weather. FIL-AM CAT Ding Ding

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii224/rene1852/whouse3.jpg

Spent 3 winters in Kodiak, Alaska....not bad, but did everything I could to get out of there fast. And where they shipped me next? Freakin' Cleveland, Ohio! And I thought it was cold in Kodiak. I still remember that football playoff game between the Cleveland Browns and the Oakland Raiders during a snow storm....65 degress below zero....are you kidding me! Spent 3 winters there too. And after that, "head west, young man." Btw, the Raiders won that game as a wild card and went all the way and won the super bowl that year.

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii224/rene1852/P1010197-1.jpg

Any comments on these issues?

What could be the reason they put the Guest Annunciator in the kitchen?

It's not like we're be having stay-in help in the condo (and if some of us do, it's unlikely we'll be giving them the authority to let people in)

^^ it's a hassle to run to the kitchen each time the concierge calls but i'd rather have it hanging in the kitchen than else where esp not in the living area. actually mine is just next to the kitchen door, not all the way inside the kitchen like that ^^

Your summary bill information from PSE&G is now ready and available for payment.

Statement Date----- Total Amount Due------Due Date
2/21/08-------------$441.71----------------3/7/08
Above is an excerpt from my latest monthly heating bill (electric bill separate). :) Btw, this winter is considered to be relatively mild! :ohno: Just wondering...what are the chances of my AC bill in Serendra, if I run it 24/7, running more than this amount? :lol:

Are we from the same "neighborhood"? I had 5 inches of snow today. Got up early and fired up the old snow blower. Of course I'm gonna miss the snow, the below 0 wind chill, $400 heating bills, black ice, etc. when I finally settle down in my 2 Serendra unit.....NO I WON'T!!!!! :ohno:

We are a Connecticut Yankee FIL-AM CAT Family. We received 10 inches of snow here last Friday; however, it is nice today and sunny. Snow still on the ground and on my roof. I am guessing you are located at one of the States at the TRI-STATE region( New York, Connecticut and New Jersey). Anyway, maybe I am thinking that we should have "Serendrans Northeast Association meeting" at least once a year at a location in NYC. I suggest the famous "Oysters Bar and Resto" down at the Grand Central Station for a B.S. session about Serendra. My favorite is either the Manhattan Clam Chowder or the New England Clam Chowder soup. The cost is only $4.85 per bowl and will fill you up. So calling all Serendrans in the TRI-State Region. How about meeting there there in June to coincide with the Philippine Independence Day Parade at 5th Avenue, Midtown Manhattan New York City? We can meet with family members and "shoot the bull"(sharing experiences and question and answers session) about Serendra. Maybe we can even invite somebody from Ayala Inc there for info session.

Your summary bill information from PSE&G is now ready and available for payment.

Statement Date----- Total Amount Due------Due Date
2/21/08-------------$441.71----------------3/7/08
Above is an excerpt from my latest monthly heating bill (electric bill separate). :) Btw, this winter is considered to be relatively mild! :ohno: Just wondering...what are the chances of my AC bill in Serendra, if I run it 24/7, running more than this amount? :lol:

Well count your blessings. At least you have snow.

I had to spend 8 grand for a skiing holiday for myself and the wifey in queenstown, kiwiland a couple of years ago. :)

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii224/rene1852/hallway.jpg
Any comments on these issues?

the picture's a bit fuzzy but it seems like the floor is not painted with deck paint. It's a pastel color. I think its more like a colored cement finish akin to a "frescoe" type finish (mas sosyal kasi pakinggan ang frescoe :lol:).

Of course the fuzziness of the picture helps it :lol:. doesn't seem to look bad.

We are a Connecticut Yankee FIL-AM CAT Family. We received 10 inches of snow here last Friday; however, it is nice today and sunny. Snow still on the ground and on my roof. I am guessing you are located at one of the States at the TRI-STATE region( New York, Connecticut and New Jersey). Anyway, maybe I am thinking that we should have "Serendrans Northeast Association meeting" at least once a year at a location in NYC. I suggest the famous "Oysters Bar and Resto" down at the Grand Central Station for a B.S. session about Serendra. My favorite is either the Manhattan Clam Chowder or the New England Clam Chowder soup. The cost is only $4.85 per bowl and will fill you up. So calling all Serendrans in the TRI-State Region. How about meeting there there in June to coincide with the Philippine Independence Day Parade at 5th Avenue, Midtown Manhattan New York City? We can meet with family members and "shoot the bull"(sharing experiences and question and answers session) about Serendra. Maybe we can even invite somebody from Ayala Inc there for info session.
Count me in! We can even plan for a weekend getaway in the Big Apple.....eat, see a Broadway show, eat, take a cruise around Manhattan, eat :lol:, etc. I'm in NJ, about 45 minutes south and west of NYC (and about the same distance to Philly).

the picture's a bit fuzzy but it seems like the floor is not painted with deck paint. It's a pastel color. I think its more like a colored cement finish akin to a "frescoe" type finish (mas sosyal kasi pakinggan ang frescoe :lol:).

Of course the fuzziness of the picture helps it :lol:. doesn't seem to look bad.

I agree it doesn't look that bad. Don't they usually grind-polish the surface with some kind of abrasive and water? I see the baseboard is already installed.

Well count your blessings. At least you have snow.

I had to spend 8 grand for a skiing holiday for myself and the wifey in queenstown, kiwiland a couple of years ago. :)

It is great to frolic in the snow, but if you have to shovel it or drive in it to get to work, it is A ROYAL PAIN IN THE DUPA! :lol::lol::lol:

I agree it doesn't look that bad. Don't they usually grind-polish the surface with some kind of abrasive and water? I see the baseboard is already installed.

If I were to be asked, I'd like it to be slightly rough for two reasons :
1. it's safer to walk on
2. it gives it a rustic-mediterranean look/feel. I love the color and texture of the hallway now, but again my disclaimer, the fuzziness of the pic helps it (like the cold helps an inferior wine :lol:)

I do hope we can get a clearer picture of it. For sure I'll make a sidetrip and take a look-see and pictures of it when I inspect my unit in March.

http://edmundtanso.smugmug.com/photos/254942767_VoqNw-L.jpg

http://edmundtanso.smugmug.com/photos/254942540_5YgDg-L.jpg

http://edmundtanso.smugmug.com/photos/254942687_RwMtY-L.jpg

http://edmundtanso.smugmug.com/photos/254942663_tXfp7-L.jpg

^^Thank you for sharing! nice shots. :okay:

Your summary bill information from PSE&G is now ready and available for payment.

Statement Date----- Total Amount Due------Due Date
2/21/08-------------$441.71----------------3/7/08
Above is an excerpt from my latest monthly heating bill (electric bill separate). :) Btw, this winter is considered to be relatively mild! :ohno: Just wondering...what are the chances of my AC bill in Serendra, if I run it 24/7, running more than this amount? :lol:

I suspect our electric bill will expensive like living in Florida all the time . Maybe $200 a month I am guessing? Maybe our friends at Serendra can answer this question more intelligently than us living here in the Freezer. That is why I am already asking for information for a good A/C system for my one serendra unit. I think what I will do is get a Carrier with a high SEER rating- high efficiency and also High Efficiency front loader washer. They cost more but in the long run, we will be able to save the environment and save money.

For our oil bill , I calculated that in 2007, I only used 354 gallons of oil for heating and hot water only. That is slightly less than a gallon a day;however, with price of oil last year, probably in 2007 , I spent slightly under $1,000 in heating and hot water. This year will be terrible. To use less oil, you have a programmable thermostat that will lower the temp when you are not at home and push it a little higher b4 you get home from work and lower it automatically when sleeping and boost the temp again b4 you get up in the morning so the house is warm.

We will face the same challenges when we live in Serendra. This time is the cost of electricity and the high cost of water at BGC. I just wonder if Serendra will allow us to install ceiling fans so we don't have to use the A/C all the time. It really helps and save money on electricity. I have a central air at home which is the most efficient of A/C but it just takes a lot of electricity to run it. We are lucky that here in the North East, it stays cool most of the time. At the most I used my A/C for 3-4 weeks only out of the year. I am not sure if we can do that in the Philippines. So Serendrans living there, please fill us up on this issue. Thanks

super ganda ng mga pics!!! salamat for posting!!!

^^Thank you for sharing! nice shots. :okay:

you are very welcome :)

....look at all those cranes!! FBGC is surely BOOMING!!:banana:

depends on the number and type of aircon you have in your unit.. to give you an idea.. we have 4 split types and 1 window type @ Boni Ridge and when used a lot for say 2 weeks.. our electric bill is at Php6,000.00 to Php8,000.00. That includes a centralized water heater as well.

Your summary bill information from PSE&G is now ready and available for payment.

Statement Date----- Total Amount Due------Due Date
2/21/08-------------$441.71----------------3/7/08
Above is an excerpt from my latest monthly heating bill (electric bill separate). :) Btw, this winter is considered to be relatively mild! :ohno: Just wondering...what are the chances of my AC bill in Serendra, if I run it 24/7, running more than this amount? :lol:

^^ Thanks for the info. I'm supposed to have 1 split and 3 windows in my small 3br unit. It's probably safe to say that my electric bill there will be less than what I am paying now. Well....I hope. :lol:

wow! superb shots Ed. look at all the cranes hoisted up everywhere!
what was that fireworks about by the way? wait...did you spend your new year in your serendra unit? :)

Wow! Those are magnificent shots!

gorgeous shots @edmundtanso.. thanks! :) bgc is uber gorgeous!

wow! superb shots Ed. look at all the cranes hoisted up everywhere!
what was that fireworks about by the way? wait...did you spend your new year in your serendra unit? :)

yes i did....i was not able to send any notice to anyone because i had a lot of issues with the developer......

issues with Ayala? pihikan talaga tong si pareng Edmund Bronze! :)

oo nga, di mo kami ininvite. that's fine. you will be coming back anyway.

Updated BGC map..
http://www.readyforoccupancy.com/BGC-004.jpg

^^ What's that new highrise building in that section of One Serendra (across MarketMarket along 32nd St. and McKinley Parkway) I saw in Ayala's Serendra showroom? The Ayala Rep called it Serendra One Tower and just wondering if this will be the official name of the said project. The rep didn't want to talk much about the project because they still have yet to get their permit to sell. Maybe someone can shed some light on this? Much Thanks!
:) :) :)

Kuya Boe, Leechtat/JP shall shed some light to us shortly. I was also curious about the hirise section of Serendra.

JP...yan...we are waiting na dito.

issues with Ayala? pihikan talaga tong si pareng Edmund Bronze! :)

oo nga, di mo kami ininvite. that's fine. you will be coming back anyway.

yes, sometime this year i would be back again :) will advise you all

thanks Ed, we will look forward to that. :)
JP, asan na ang details ng hirise section ng Serendra?

pacific plaza and essensa towers are amazing ... definitely show the grandeur of BGC ... i wish future BGC skyscrapers would be comparable to these structures.

pacific plaza and essensa towers are amazing ... definitely show the grandeur of BGC ... i wish future BGC skyscrapers would be comparable to these 2 structures ...

Yup. they have the USS Enterprise docked at their roof top and Mr. Spock at the penthouse

:lol:

^^ What's that new highrise building in that section of One Serendra (across MarketMarket along 32nd St. and McKinley Parkway) I saw in Ayala's Serendra showroom? The Ayala Rep called it Serendra One Tower and just wondering if this will be the official name of the said project. The rep didn't want to talk much about the project because they still have yet to get their permit to sell. Maybe someone can shed some light on this? Much Thanks!
:) :) :)


not sure if The East Tower at One Serendra is the official name of that one... launching is March 8 if i'm not mistaken. it will have 30-something floors.

the current gym at One Serendra is divided into 2... the one facing the garden and kiddie play area with all the gym equipment right now (where the ladies' changing room is at) is just half of it... the other half of the gym where the men's changing room is located at is facing the pool area... it's surrounded with mirrors but is still empty :)

You are right. I saw a big vacant space there surrounded by mirrors and facing the pool area. In that case, I suspect that they will convert that for dance exercise classes, kick boxing athletics and other athletic instructions because of the mirrors. That would be great! At 2 Serendra, the second floor is dedicated to another function room, game room, and kiddie room. Just a different concept. BTW, one thing I noticed at 1 Serendra is they have WIFI signals in the lobby free of charge. At 2 Serendra, you have to go out at the Piazza to get some signals. I am not sure if the WIFI signals are strong in the units (1 Serendra) and will be available for the entire 1 Serendra Development. Can you give us information on this? Thanks.

not sure if The East Tower at One Serendra is the official name of that one... launching is March 8 if i'm not mistaken. it will have 30-something floors.

Lauren, may rendering na ba ito ? I might hold my decision about 8 Forbestown Road until I see what this project is all about. Ano ba, nalilito na ako sa dami na magagandang projects sa BGC. :nuts:

^^ i haven't seen one but check with Cynch... i'm sure she'll have the details of this project :)

not sure if The East Tower at One Serendra is the official name of that one... launching is March 8 if i'm not mistaken. it will have 30-something floors.


^^ Thanks for the info Lauren! :)

it reminds me of manila hotel... the roof

it reminds me of manila hotel... the roof

do you mean serendra reminds you of manila hotel's roof,
or serendra's roof reminds you of manila hotel?

(habang nagka kamot ng ulo) :nuts:

same sila ng bubong so i guess, they both remind me of each other, di ba sila sila ng roof?

do you mean serendra reminds you of manila hotel's roof,
or serendra's roof reminds you of manila hotel?

(habang nagka kamot ng ulo) :nuts:



sir bart

looking good ba or good looking talaga ang serendra?!
thnx for all the inputs everybody...mas updated pa ko
dito kesa ayala/CI @2serendra..ala man lang e-mail or
tawag about latest update, bitin ang bakasyun ko!!

DD, thank you again for the nice pic and well presented
units of both serendras, bilib ko sa yo, dalawa pa ang
nabili mo!!!

lauren, musta na si cynch!!

BO

sir bart

looking good ba or good looking talaga ang serendra?!
thnx for all the inputs everybody...mas updated pa ko
dito kesa ayala/CI @2serendra..ala man lang e-mail or
tawag about latest update, bitin ang bakasyun ko!!

DD, thank you again for the nice pic and well presented
units of both serendras, bilib ko sa yo, dalawa pa ang
nabili mo!!!

lauren, musta na si cynch!!

BO

well, i've read grumblings from 2serendra owners , particularly regarding the hallways; pero wala pa naman akong narinig o nabasa na merong nagsisi kung bakit sila bumili ng serendra unit :)

if you want some updates on cynch, go to the bonifacio global city-zens thread sa samahan

I think that 2 Serendra owners should read the threads for the other condo developers before they start feeling sorry for themselves.:) Chances are they'll feel much better.

i think serendrans (sepecially 2, that includes me!) are just being perfectionist....but not bad decision makers:)....i am totally happy of my future abode!...it's how you make out of it!

I'm just curious... Is 1 serendra and 2 serendra connected...
Meaning can someone from 2 Serendra go walk in 1 Serendra's garden or use their pool and gym?

not sure if The East Tower at One Serendra is the official name of that one... launching is March 8 if i'm not mistaken. it will have 30-something floors.


The East Tower at One Serendra will be conducting its public selling on March 9. It has 41 floors. :)

The East Tower at One Serendra will be conducting its public selling on March 9. It has 41 floors. :)

thanks for the clarification :)


I'm just curious... Is 1 serendra and 2 serendra connected...
Meaning can someone from 2 Serendra go walk in 1 Serendra's garden or use their pool and gym?

nope, they are two separate developments... amenities as well as the gardens are exclusively for use by residents of each respective developments.

Details please! :D I'm excited about East Tower at One Serendra. Will this be an Ayala Land Premier project or Community Innovations project?


The East Tower at One Serendra will be conducting its public selling on March 9. It has 41 floors. :)

Details please! :D I'm excited about East Tower at One Serendra. Will this be an Ayala Land Premier project or Community Innovations project?

I'm also excited to see how this tower looks :) I think it must be a Ayala Land Premier project as its in One Serendra.

The East Tower at One Serendra will be conducting its public selling on March 9. It has 41 floors. :)

^^ Thanks for the update! Lookng forward to more info/pics regarding this new One Serendra high-rise project! :) :) :)

guys, i would like to post more info but the updates i received are in .pdf format. any suggestion on how i can post the texts?

guys, i would like to post more info but the updates i received are in .pdf format. any suggestion on how i can post the texts?

select text, copy, paste... works for me

Here's the timetable:

Mar 6
LOI clients - batch 1
LOI received by ALP-Sales prior to Jan 14 sales rally

Mar 7
LOI clients – batch 2
LOI received by ALP-Sales from Jan 14 to 31

Mar 8
LOI clients – batch 3
LOI received by ALP-Sales from Feb 1 to 29

Mar 9
Open to the public

28 February 08

One Serendra
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/3240/oneserendramj0.jpg

Two Serendra
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/2306/twoserendrazh1.jpg

^^Thanks for the pictures @xandro.:okay:

taken by raisaldua dos from flickr on 2/24/08

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a91/EnozAnewor/22408.jpg

This is _______of Community Innovations, Inc. I used to represent the Serendra development at the Bonifacio Global City and I still am now. I hope you could still remember me. I would like to inform you that our company will soon be launching our next condominium development that has a totally new look. Located near Greenbelt Mall specifically situated at the back of Union Church and will be facing the Legazpi Village park, Makati Central Business District this condominium will be made up of a single building only. Some of the exciting features of this development is its high-ceiling hotel-like lobby, covered lounging pool equipped with a mini theater, a garden cafe perfect for relaxation located at the top of the structure and a lot more. Units available would be studio, 1 BR and 2 BR. Pricing details will be available soon. Attached below is the teaser for this upcoming development . . .

Kindly email me back if you are interested so we can discuss about it within the week and perhaps execute a Letter of Intent for submission to our sales admin. This is to make sure that we will be given priority in choosing among the units during the launch. Hurry and take advantage!

Remember timing is of major importance in real estate investment. Take advantage of the launching and be the one to select the best located, one of a kind and lowest priced units and get maximum returns on your investment. Hurry and email me now. God bless.

I received this e-mail from a CII PS a couple of weeks ago. Has anyone heard of this project?

^^ it's SENTA. leechtat made a thread re this

^^ yah.. we are accepting LOI's now..

here is some info regarding east tower..

(sorry if its has been already posted, though i can't seem to find out if it was)

The new Ayala Land Premier high-rise condominium will deliver the most authentic experience of living in a suburban home within the city location of Bonifacio Global City.

Abundant natural light and cross-ventilation
• Unobstructed views in the living and dining room, with floor-to-ceiling windows
• Minimum of 2 operable windows per bedroom
• Selected master bathrooms offering 1.7m bathtubs with picture windows

Intuitive unit layout, spaciousness, and freedom of movement
• 1BR units at an above-industry average size of 70 sqm
• Open kitchens in all units, with separate utility and gourmet kitchens in 3BR units
• Larger shower areas in selected master T&Bs
• Larger usable balconies—up to174 sqm

Premium finishes and fixtures
• Engineered hardwood flooring in all bedrooms*, and living and dining areas of 1BR and 2BR
• Homogenous tiles in bathrooms* and in flooring of 1BR and 2BR kitchens
• Agglomerate flooring in 3BR living, dining and gourmet kitchen areas
• Granite countertops in 1BR and 2BR kitchens and solid surface countertops in 3BR kitchens
• European mixers and shower heads, water closets and basins; European tubs in selected 3BR units
• European-grade kitchen cabinetry

AMENITIES
• Lush tropical landscaping with shaded pocket gardens
• Elevated 25m lap pool, overflowing into main pool with private pool nooks
• Dedicated kids’ pool and outdoor play area, and indoor play area
• Gym with dedicated cardio area, free weights area and yoga/Pilates room all with a view of reflecting pools and water features

Unit Offerings
1-Bedroom - 70 sqm
2-Bedroom - 111 sqm
2-Bedroom Suite - 142 sqm

Exclusive, limited inventory of highlight units:
• Select 3BR bi-level units with corner balconies on 26th floor and up
• Sole 3BR unit with full-glass, 3-side views on 32nd floor
• Two 3BR units with grand, sprawling balcony with landscaped garden on the 37th floor
• Two 3BR bi-level unit with private plunge pool and pocket garden in balcony on the 40th floor

UNIT FEATURES
• Closets for bedrooms and walk-in closet in master bedroom
• Kitchen system
• 2 telephone lines, Intercom system, CATV system
• Provision for storage-type water heating system
• Incorporated refrigerant piping and cladding for all split-type air conditioning units for easy installation of aircon by unit owner
• Utility/Maid’s Area with T&B for 2BR and 3BR units with area provision for washer/spin dryer drainage stub-outs
• Individual metering for water, electricity and gas
• Garbage chute on each floor

BUILDING FEATURES
• 3 basements for parking space. Each unit comes with appurtenant parking slot/s:
1BR and 2BR: 1 slot; 2BR Suite: 2 slots; 3 BR: 3 slots
• Fully automatic sprinkler & smoke detector system
• Visual/audible fire alarm system for residential units
• Water reservoir and separate fire reserves
• Administrative office and mail room
• Centralized sanitary disposal system
• 4 high-speed elevators
• 24-hour security
• Building maintenance by Ayala Property Management Corporation

BENEFITS OF LIVING WITHIN ONE SERENDRA COMMUNITY
• Lowest density living environment among condominium offerings in the market today
• Proximity to hospitals, international schools, commercial and office centers, and integrated to one
of today’s most popular lifestyle hubs—the Bonifacio High Street and Shops at Serendra
• Country club-like amenities already existing and turned over in Phase 1:
o Swimming pool with kids’ area
o Underground basketball and badminton courts
o Game room, function room, and social halls
o Indoor play area/day care center and outdoor playground for kids
o Gym/fitness center
o Exclusive spa and wellness center*
• Other amenities to be enjoyed at One Serendra with the completion of Phase 2B:
o Swimming pool with gazebo
o Indoor kids play area
o Sky party deck
o Gym

LOCATION
The One Serendra high-rise towers will be situated fronting 32nd Street, composed of two high-rise structures connected by a scenic walkway with exclusive garden units. The first tower to be launched is located on the East portion, on the corner of McKinley Parkway. Estimated turnover of units begins in second quarter of 2012.

END

taipanSky and leechtat - looks like you guys got somewhat confused. if you read OilMover's post again, the letter from his sales rep talks about a condo development "Located near Greenbelt Mall specifically situated at the back of Union Church and will be facing the Legazpi Village park, Makati Central Business District ..." , NOT part of serendra

No bartman. JP/Leechtat's response to Oliver is only the first line. The rest is in response to earlier queries regarding the hirise portion of Serendra.

No bartman. JP/Leechtat's response to Oliver is only the first line. The rest is in response to earlier queries regarding the hirise portion of Serendra.
oh ok :)

i was the one who got totally confused. i just read the senta thread.
i need a vacation from this vacation.

^^I know the feeling bartman. In my case, I take time off from the office (8 weeks vacation really comes in handy)to work around the house. Then, I go back to the office for some rest and relaxation.:lol:

oh ok :)

i was the one who got totally confused. i just read the senta thread.
i need a vacation from this vacation.

:)Hope all is well @bartman. Pare, na confused ka kasi pinaplano mo sabay ang vacation sa Pinas at ang pagpo-post mo sa forum..hehehe. O siya, tenang umuwi, at sawang-sawa na rin ako sa lamig at yelo (hindi na snow). Masakit na ang katawan ko sa kapapala.Lingo lingo na lang mulang pagbalik galing Pilipinas. Regards and have a great weekend..:cheers::cheers:

Does Serendra have a chapel? Where is the nearest church in BGC?

^^ yah.. we are accepting LOI's now..

here is some info regarding east tower..

(sorry if its has been already posted, though i can't seem to find out if it was)

The new Ayala Land Premier high-rise condominium will deliver the most authentic experience of living in a suburban home within the city location of Bonifacio Global City.

Abundant natural light and cross-ventilation
• Unobstructed views in the living and dining room, with floor-to-ceiling windows
• Minimum of 2 operable windows per bedroom
• Selected master bathrooms offering 1.7m bathtubs with picture windows

Intuitive unit layout, spaciousness, and freedom of movement
• 1BR units at an above-industry average size of 70 sqm
• Open kitchens in all units, with separate utility and gourmet kitchens in 3BR units
• Larger shower areas in selected master T&Bs
• Larger usable balconies—up to174 sqm

Premium finishes and fixtures
• Engineered hardwood flooring in all bedrooms*, and living and dining areas of 1BR and 2BR
• Homogenous tiles in bathrooms* and in flooring of 1BR and 2BR kitchens
• Agglomerate flooring in 3BR living, dining and gourmet kitchen areas
• Granite countertops in 1BR and 2BR kitchens and solid surface countertops in 3BR kitchens
• European mixers and shower heads, water closets and basins; European tubs in selected 3BR units
• European-grade kitchen cabinetry

AMENITIES
• Lush tropical landscaping with shaded pocket gardens
• Elevated 25m lap pool, overflowing into main pool with private pool nooks
• Dedicated kids’ pool and outdoor play area, and indoor play area
• Gym with dedicated cardio area, free weights area and yoga/Pilates room all with a view of reflecting pools and water features

Unit Offerings
1-Bedroom - 70 sqm
2-Bedroom - 111 sqm
2-Bedroom Suite - 142 sqm

Exclusive, limited inventory of highlight units:
• Select 3BR bi-level units with corner balconies on 26th floor and up
• Sole 3BR unit with full-glass, 3-side views on 32nd floor
• Two 3BR units with grand, sprawling balcony with landscaped garden on the 37th floor
• Two 3BR bi-level unit with private plunge pool and pocket garden in balcony on the 40th floor

UNIT FEATURES
• Closets for bedrooms and walk-in closet in master bedroom
• Kitchen system
• 2 telephone lines, Intercom system, CATV system
• Provision for storage-type water heating system
• Incorporated refrigerant piping and cladding for all split-type air conditioning units for easy installation of aircon by unit owner
• Utility/Maid’s Area with T&B for 2BR and 3BR units with area provision for washer/spin dryer drainage stub-outs
• Individual metering for water, electricity and gas
• Garbage chute on each floor

BUILDING FEATURES
• 3 basements for parking space. Each unit comes with appurtenant parking slot/s:
1BR and 2BR: 1 slot; 2BR Suite: 2 slots; 3 BR: 3 slots
• Fully automatic sprinkler & smoke detector system
• Visual/audible fire alarm system for residential units
• Water reservoir and separate fire reserves
• Administrative office and mail room
• Centralized sanitary disposal system
• 4 high-speed elevators
• 24-hour security
• Building maintenance by Ayala Property Management Corporation

BENEFITS OF LIVING WITHIN ONE SERENDRA COMMUNITY
• Lowest density living environment among condominium offerings in the market today
• Proximity to hospitals, international schools, commercial and office centers, and integrated to one
of today’s most popular lifestyle hubs—the Bonifacio High Street and Shops at Serendra
• Country club-like amenities already existing and turned over in Phase 1:
o Swimming pool with kids’ area
o Underground basketball and badminton courts
o Game room, function room, and social halls
o Indoor play area/day care center and outdoor playground for kids
o Gym/fitness center
o Exclusive spa and wellness center*
• Other amenities to be enjoyed at One Serendra with the completion of Phase 2B:
o Swimming pool with gazebo
o Indoor kids play area
o Sky party deck
o Gym

LOCATION
The One Serendra high-rise towers will be situated fronting 32nd Street, composed of two high-rise structures connected by a scenic walkway with exclusive garden units. The first tower to be launched is located on the East portion, on the corner of McKinley Parkway. Estimated turnover of units begins in second quarter of 2012.

END


wala pang nagpopost niyan. takot ako e.hahaha

^^ haha.. ok lang yan. :) oo nga pla.. **take note: the particulars are subject to change without prior notice. :)

Does anyone know the rental rates for Two Serendra? What are the rates for a studio, 1BR & 2BR units? Is it computed per sqm? Are the dues included in the rent? Thanks for your input. :)

www.skyapercity.com

I don't think there is. Residents here don't need one. what they need is a miniature putting green :lol:




Does Serendra have a chapel? Where is the nearest church in BGC?

Does Serendra have a chapel? Where is the nearest church in BGC?
serendra does NOT have a chapel
the nearest church i'm familiar with is santuario de san antonio in forbes. it's on mackinley road, about halfway to edsa if you're headed towards makati from the fort.

Does anyone know the rental rates for Two Serendra? What are the rates for a studio, 1BR & 2BR units? Is it computed per sqm? Are the dues included in the rent? Thanks for your input. :)


Hello Northshore!

Based on the asking rental rates I've gathered:

Studio - Php 30-35k
1-BR - Php 40-45k
2-BR - Php 70-80k

Note: These rates are based on a furnished unit. Again, the achieved rental rates will also depend on how a condo unit is nicely furnished. In general, I recommend to landlords that the rental rates should be inclusive of the dues already (so that you'll have no problem in collecting dues from the tenant).

Based on experience, the landlords that I've dealt with quote rental rates on a TOTAL monthly figure. They don't quote rental rates on a per sqm basis.

On the other hand, for office spaces and commercial units, landlords quote on a per sqm basis.

Hope this helps!

Does Serendra have a chapel? Where is the nearest church in BGC?

but i notice that they hold the sunday mass at the piazza.. or was that just a one time thing?

serendra does NOT have a chapel
the nearest church i'm familiar with is santuario de san antonio in forbes. it's on mackinley road, about halfway to edsa if you're headed towards makati from the fort.

St. Michael Church
9th Ave. cor. Triangle Drive
Bonifacio Triangle
BGC

Picture courtesy of Thomasian:

Background: Total Corporate Center
Foreground: St. Michael Church

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa80/Animo_Ateneo/100_9233x.jpg

Source: FBDC Website

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa80/Animo_Ateneo/BonifacioTriangle-1.jpg

Serendra, the mega-residential development of Ayala Land, Inc. in Bonifacio Global City. Here is a partial update for Serendra as of March 03, 2008.

The construction of One Serendra Section D and E are in full swing.

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Two Serendra Section D and E are also in full-swing of construction. Section F or Aston at Two Serendra has only less than 3 Studio units up for sale. But do not worry, Section G or Red Oak at Two Serendra will be launched by the middle of the year.

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The One Serendra East Tower is testing the PHP 125,000/sqm price. This only means one thing for early serendra investors ~ return of investment! :banana:

thanks for the photos...

just got back from the philippines yesterday and got a chance to the progress of serendra and fbgc.............all i can say is wow! i am so happy that i bought in serendra and was able to enjoy lunch at a nice vietnamese restaurant and larry's in the promenade. high street is shaping up nice and for those of you still in the club scene, there is a new nightclub near the tgif side of high street called ascend. i was able to meet the event coordinator at ascend and she took care of my group of friends nicely. looking forward to meeting everyone on the forum someday. my turnover is 1st quarter 2010 in section d. construction on my building is looking to be on pace.

Hi guys,

I too have just returned from the Philippines (2/17) and that whole area, the piazza, high street, and most especially, one serendra was great!!! The complex was spectacular: the pool, the lobbies in building A, the game rooms, the underground parking, the gardens, and most especially the VIP treatment from the staff...I didn't want to leave...I got to visit my unit and only the mirrors in the powder room and the common bath is left to be built. I will attach the pictures at a later date. Seeing the development in person, I would like to put to rest any investors doubts on buying a unit at serendra: WE ALL DID THE RIGHT THING!!! :banana:

I'm in building C, though late by a few months (original turn-over was 12/07) with the new due date of 3/28, I am no longer in a hurry now that I have seen all that have been completed and the workmanship involved in the construction. Like WOW!!! Bart and Lauren, I am so jealous but indeed VERY HAPPY that you're already living the life in this truly special community.

I got to sample the food at Silk, Abe and Mary Grace - awesome.

Security was VERY tight - I was caught video taping by Market!Market!, but the cops were very nice, courteous and polite. They explained that they were just watching out for the protection of the serendra unit owners. Though embarrassed, I was very happy that someone will be watching out for our security.

I will upload the pictures, though I can assure all in this thread that seeing it in person does not compare...I am so happy with my unit...

george and maryknoller - great to hear from the both of you. glad that both of you seem happy with your respective purchases :)

george, you should oin us on our next BAM meet. sending you my contact info via PM

All I can say is: FANTASTIC, Maryknoller. Yes, you can never go wrong with Ayala. You get what you pay for, no cutting corners, no excuses, no ifs or buts ... :lol: well done and congrats!

Hello Northshore!

Based on the asking rental rates I've gathered:

Studio - Php 30-35k
1-BR - Php 40-45k
2-BR - Php 70-80k

Note: These rates are based on a furnished unit. Again, the achieved rental rates will also depend on how a condo unit is nicely furnished. In general, I recommend to landlords that the rental rates should be inclusive of the dues already (so that you'll have no problem in collecting dues from the tenant).

Based on experience, the landlords that I've dealt with quote rental rates on a TOTAL monthly figure. They don't quote rental rates on a per sqm basis.

On the other hand, for office spaces and commercial units, landlords quote on a per sqm basis.

Hope this helps!

Thanks for the Info. I am just curious how much is rental rate for One Serendra that is fully furnished?

Hi guys,

I too have just returned from the Philippines (2/17) and that whole area, the piazza, high street, and most especially, one serendra was great!!! The complex was spectacular: the pool, the lobbies in building A, the game rooms, the underground parking, the gardens, and most especially the VIP treatment from the staff...I didn't want to leave...I got to visit my unit and only the mirrors in the powder room and the common bath is left to be built. I will attach the pictures at a later date. Seeing the development in person, I would like to put to rest any investors doubts on buying a unit at serendra: WE ALL DID THE RIGHT THING!!! :banana:

I'm in building C, though late by a few months (original turn-over was 12/07) with the new due date of 3/28, I am no longer in a hurry now that I have seen all that have been completed and the workmanship involved in the construction. Like WOW!!! Bart and Lauren, I am so jealous but indeed VERY HAPPY that you're already living the life in this truly special community.

I got to sample the food at Silk, Abe and Mary Grace - awesome.

Security was VERY tight - I was caught video taping by Market!Market!, but the cops were very nice, courteous and polite. They explained that they were just watching out for the protection of the serendra unit owners. Though embarrassed, I was very happy that someone will be watching out for our security.

I will upload the pictures, though I can assure all in this thread that seeing it in person does not compare...I am so happy with my unit...

Congratulations to Maryknoller and George Hernandez! I know that you guys will be happy with your respective purchases. Did you guys get 1 or 2 Serendra units? Either way, both are great investments. I saw that Ayala is now testing the P125,000 per meters at One Serendra . I know that it will be good for previous purchasers like us but I am concerned about future Balikbayan buyers. The dollar is still weak and the questions is whether Serendra is still affordable for the Balikbayan people from the States. I guess if there will be fewer buyers, probably they will not have more price increases in the future. It is a matter of supply and demand. What do you guys think about this issue?

Actually, there's a lot of cutting corners... 1. the windows has been changed. It was floor to ceiling windows on the picture when I bought mine in 2005. Now , theres not even a big window to open in the livingroom, how silly is that! That means you have to have the A/C on all the time! 2. they dropped my ceiling in the diningroom to accomodate the pipes of the upper floor. Their reason is that they don't want to see the pipes outside the building, so, my unit lost a bit of space. Who will pay the cost when those pipes leak? Not only the cost but all the disturbance & chaos????

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii224/rene1852/P1010194-1.jpg

Whether you have a unit at Serendra 1 or 2, you will find this grease trap underneath your kitchen sink. I just want to know the logic behind putting a grease trap. I have see these only for restaurants but not in a house or apartment. They should have installed a garbage disposer( sink erator) instead of this. I will not cook tons of fried food and have a massive coronary after living at One Serendra for only less than a year! I just want to know the logic behind this. What do you all think?

BTW, this picture was taken at my One Serendra one bedroom at Section B during the punch list last January. As you see, they also included a small garbage can that automatically opens when when opening the underneath kitchen cabinet.

Congratulations to Maryknoller and George Hernandez! I know that you guys will be happy with your respective purchases. Did you guys get 1 or 2 Serendra units? Either way, both are great investments. I saw that Ayala is now testing the P125,000 per meters at One Serendra . I know that it will be good for previous purchasers like us but I am concerned about future Balikbayan buyers. The dollar is still weak and the questions is whether Serendra is still affordable for the Balikbayan people from the States. I guess if there will be fewer buyers, probably they will not have more price increases in the future. It is a matter of supply and demand. What do you guys think about this issue?

just for clarifications, the P125,000 per sqm is for the East Tower at One Serendra only. the pricing for the remaining units of Section D and E will still be the same.:)

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Grease and oil can form deposits along sewers and cause blockages or even escape to the ground and have a harmful effect on the environment. Kudos to ayala for adopting this.. this may be serendra but you're still in the philippines where environmental awareness is still third world. :)







Whether you have a unit at Serendra 1 or 2, you will find this grease trap underneath your kitchen sink. I just want to know the logic behind putting a grease trap. I have see these only for restaurants but not in a house or apartment. They should have installed a garbage disposer( sink erator) instead of this. I will not cook tons of fried food and have a massive coronary after living at One Serendra for only less than a year! I just want to know the logic behind this. What do you all think?

BTW, this picture was taken at my One Serendra one bedroom at Section B during the punch list last January. As you see, they also included a small garbage can that automatically opens when when opening the underneath kitchen cabinet.

Grease and oil can form deposits along sewers and cause blockages or even escape to the ground and have a harmful effect on the environment. Kudos to ayala for adopting this.. this may be serendra but you're still in the philippines where environmental awareness is still third world. :)

^^ exactly its purpose.

mind you, majority of new developments of ALI and possibly other developers are adopting eco-friendly designs. on that note, these grease traps can be found in most ALI properties such as celadon residences.

^^ I thought the grease trap is a standard feature among condo projects (not just ALI projects) in general especially newer ones and is a requirement in all condo projects in BGC. Isn't it the case?

yes, i know what you mean. i toured a few of my friends that i went to the philippines with around serendra. they all loved it but were surprised at the pricing when converted to USD. i was lucky enough to get in at 52/1. it would be great to have my friends living in a unit next to me, but the sinking USD, real estate meltdown back home and a sagging stock market are a lethal combination for Fil-Am buyers. who knows where pricing will go......we can only guess........my unit is in two serendra.......one serendra was over the vacation home budget for a single guy.

^^ exactly its purpose.

mind you, majority of new developments of ALI and possibly other developers are adopting eco-friendly designs. on that note, these grease traps can be found in most ALI properties such as celadon residences.

I am sorry but I am not sure how do this grease trap works? I am familiar with Garbage disposer here in the States that liquefies food particles. I turn it on with water and that is it. This grease trap, do I need to remove it physically once it is full of grease?

yes you'll have to remove the grease physically and with your bare hands, so i don't think you can handle that. . however you can recycle and use the fat to fry your chips. :lol:





I am sorry but I am not sure how do this grease trap works? I am familiar with Garbage disposer here in the States that liquefies food particles. I turn it on with water and that is it. This grease trap, do I need to remove it physically once it is full of grease?

yes, i know what you mean. i toured a few of my friends that i went to the philippines with around serendra. they all loved it but were surprised at the pricing when converted to USD. i was lucky enough to get in at 52/1. it would be great to have my friends living in a unit next to me, but the sinking USD, real estate meltdown back home and a sagging stock market are a lethal combination for Fil-Am buyers. who knows where pricing will go......we can only guess........my unit is in two serendra.......one serendra was over the vacation home budget for a single guy.

I was told by my cousin that she sees people everyday at Serendra still buying units like hotcakes as I am writing this. However, as you have said, some people are starting to back off because it is not becoming affordable anymore to some segments of Balikbayan (FIL-AM) people. I bought my 2 Serendra Studio two months after public offering and my one bedroom 1 Serendra 6 months even though I have not visited the location . I was lucky too that when I was making payments, the USD exchange was still very favorable in the high P50. So we should feel lucky because it is the best condo development in the Philippines. If I will buy any of the units at todays prices, I would really think thrice before buying. Probably I would back off buying one with the current exchange rate. The only way for a common FIL-AM to buy a One Serendra unit now is to sell their house in the States and then use most of the money to get a 1-2 bedroom unit. The retiring FIL-AM's might be able to do it. I do not know why the price increases all the time? I heard that 80% of the buyers at Serendra are FIL-AMs. Eventually, the demand for properties will go down and it will be like killing a goose that is laying a golden egg. We might see a property meltdown in the Philippines just like here in the States when the price of properties become ridiculously expensive to afford. I hope I am wrong on this premise. What do you guys think?

i don't think you need to worry about that part..in my expereince with ayala, they will schedule regurlar cleaning of grease traps...just be prepared...kasi ang baho! espceially if you cook much

yes you'll have to remove the grease physically and with your bare hands, so i don't think you can handle that. . however you can recycle and use the fat to fry your chips. :lol:

SH@t! I can't believe this!!! I knew it.... I knew it.... They should have installed a garbage aerator instead. Now, that is really very smart on the part of the developer! I am not about to cook a lot of greasy food all the time so this will be less use for me. Really a case of SNAFU (Situation Normal all .........) on the developer's part. I am going home now...

you don't have to do it yourself.. you can call the admin and they can have the building maintenance to remove it for you... they have the same grease trap in Boni Ridge.. one downside is if not maintained properly it can be a bit smelly..

SH@t! I can't believe this!!! I knew it.... I knew it.... They should have installed a garbage aerator instead. Now, that is really very smart on the part of the developer! I am not about to cook a lot of greasy food all the time so this will be less use for me. Really a case of SNAFU (Situation Normal all .........) on the developer's part. I am going home now...

i don't think you need to worry about that part..in my expereince with ayala, they will schedule regurlar cleaning of grease traps...just be prepared...kasi ang baho! espceially if you cook much

yes, you can ask the maintenance people to remove it for you.

so boni ridge has this feature as well. i am not sure if all BGC properties have this, i think FTC have no grease trap contraptions.

...We might see a property meltdown in the Philippines just like here in the States when the price of properties become ridiculously expensive to afford. I hope I am wrong on this premise. What do you guys think?

^^ thanks for the info. now, we are seeing less of price increase/sqm. last year, price increase is almost per quarter for serendra. but this is not the same for other projects. some developers do not have price increases, not until the building is up. so some projects would still be affordable for OFW's. i do hope no subprime crisis will hit the country, now that interest rates are at the lowest and many are applying for loans and also the economy is doing good. *cross-fingers*

Hello, can someone tell me how to see past page 39, i can see that we're on page 44, but i'm stuck on page 39, for several days past, i was stuck on page 38, and just now, i am able to see page 39. can somebody tell me if i'm the only one who is experience this.

^^ currently we are on page 39. there is no actual 40th and onwards.. its just a glitch.

- according to sinjin

akala ko thread 7 na iyon na hinid ko mahanap.

[QUOTE=leechtat;18883714]yes, you can ask the maintenance people to remove it for you.

so boni ridge has this feature as well. i am not sure if all BGC properties have this, i think FTC have no grease trap contraptions.




I'm not sure how that grease trap looks like inside, but....perhaps one can put a plastic liner inside, e.g. plastic bag, that you can take out and dispose off when it's full?

how does one know if he/she has a grease trap? what does it look like? is it the box like object found under the sink?

Here is how the East Tower at One Serendra would look like and also the website to get the PDF description/brochure. According to the PDF brochure, there will be 120 1-bedroom and the rest are 2-3 bedroom units. Total Units to be built is 283. The price b4 VAT is P125,000 per sq/meter so for only $217,391 you can have a one bedroom unit at this place. Add $ to furnished this to your liking, it might be closed to $230-250K and indeed you can have a nice retirement place in the Philippines. Turn over is by Tranche per floor beginning in June 2012 and the last floor if you like to have a penthouse is by January 2013. However, you might be SOL if you want a penthouse coz rumor is that some people who got money and the right connection, already gobbled up highly selected units even before this Tower was on the drawing board. That is how bad it is.... Serendra Units 1 and 2 are selling like hotcakes! Finally, somebody at Ayala used his or her brain to have a provision for garbage disposal system(sink-erator) instead of putting the Third Class Grease Trap that was installed in our units. But again,for that much money you have to pay for a unit, you still have to buy a sink-erator and pay for the installation. Now that is really "Genius"...

They also indicated that the current Association dues at 1 Serendra is P92/sqm and the water utility cost is P75/cubic meter. The water at Serendra is good and safe to drink when I was there in January. I felt no need to buy bottled water which can be expensive. Can some Serendrans comment on this issue.

Finally, Serendra owners should be proud of their purchases. I am because Serendra is a great place to live and you know the return on our investment has been phenomenal. Also my observation, as the developer of Serendra ,Ayala is good, but the company is not perfect in everything they do.

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii224/rene1852/EastTower.jpg

http://www.ayalalandpremier.com/oneserendra/East%20Tower%20fact%20sheet%20Mar08.pdf

^^Thanks for sharing. The finishing appears to be high-end (e.g. Grohe fixtures). Might be worth checking its provisions for standby power.

the recent comments are welcome.

you will note that i have not be-littled the BGC development or eVen made any comparisons with Rockwell since a 240+ha developments is a totally different matter compared with 15+hectares.

But my main perspective is THE FIRST WORLD CONCEPT THAT WE ARE STRIVING FOR EXTENDS BEYOND THE IMMEDIATE BOUNDARIES OF OUR IMMEDIATE CONDOS.

And what particularly irritates me is that the BGC administrators who are in possession of what is private property are not working in the interests of the owners,i.e. the unit owners and owners of the individual blocks of land. How can you possibly say that we are enjoying a first world experience when a jeepney suddenly sprews a cloudfull of black smoke on your leisurely walk? Or when a jeepney or motorcycle interrupts your cafe conversation because of the noise from their muffler-less vehicles.
Again its private property. and its our to govern and make rules.

Question: in your underground carpark of your condo what would you do if a mitsubishi L300 diesel were to pass you belting out black smoke.
Answer: you would complain to your admin and you have the right because you are a co-owner of that condo.

At BGC the destroyers of our "leisurely walk" are not even residents.
I wonder if the Serendra owners along 26th Street and McKinley Parkway believe they are in a first world environment even with their windows closed.










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It strikes me as interesting that GOGlobal and Sloanranger made comments about the superficialness of BGC"s 1st world goals.

Its interesting because all the other participants totally ignored the seriousness of the comments made and just went on with their very light hearted lol's and hehehe and hahaha and mind museum levity and park name changes, etc etc.

...
Thanks. Wonderful comments.

Infusing laughter to a serious matter doesn't mean that there's no seriousness to it. In fact, investing in BGC requires certain degree of seriousness.

If we need to address serious concerns, you can certainly count on me. I suggest though that it should be done in the proper forum. I don't think SSC is the right venue for most complaints. No question, we can voice them out here.

Rest assured though that we're happy investors. And I think that's the bottomline.

I appreciate your incisive opinion.
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Here's my take...it does not mean that just because FBDC has a different plan/vision for addressing/solving issues of traffic and what not in Fort Boni does not mean they are not doing anything about it. Probably it's more of we may not all agree to the solutions they may have provided and that is expected after all can't really please everybody. Nevertheless the reality is Fort Boni, superficial or not, is an award winning master planned urban community that many experts consider as the best new urban development to hit the metro and the country for that matter in so many years. That's why there is so much hype but one look at the beautiful and well maintained buildings, facilities, sidewalks and roadways speaks for itself. It's really beautiful and it's also family as well as pedestrian friendly (if people are willing to walk). Of course it may not be everyone's cup of tea but with all the amenities and features which Fort Boni provides, coupled with a world class CBD in the horizon, one will be hard pressed to find a better place to live and work in, atleast here in the Philippines. I didn't and that's why I've put my hard-earned money and invested it in Fort Boni and have no regrets doing so (so far atleast). I am one happy and satisfied Fort Boni investor!

how does one know if he/she has a grease trap? what does it look like? is it the box like object found under the sink?

^^ If it looks like the pic below then yup that's what it is - that's the grease trap! :)

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii224/rene1852/P1010194-1.jpg

taken by storm crypt of flickr...it's old, taken on 1/10/08...but still a nice shot

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a91/EnozAnewor/stormcryptfbgc011008.jpg

3cr, grease trap pala yung rectangular box under the sink sa picture na re posted mo.thanks.

taken by storm crypt of flickr...it's old, taken on 1/10/08...but still a nice shot

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a91/EnozAnewor/stormcryptfbgc011008.jpg

This is such an awesome picture...
Just imagine if 2 Serendra (the high rise part) and 1 Serendra's East and Wet towers are finished...

Plus, despite the progress and many projects recently you can still see that BGC is still very young...

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii224/rene1852/EastTower.jpg

http://www.ayalalandpremier.com/oneserendra/East%20Tower%20fact%20sheet%20Mar08.pdf[/QUOTE]

awesome...very nice, thanks for sharing. i wish serendra 2 high rise was more contemporary in design. as a sendra unit owner, i have to say that i am glad i got a unit in the first phase

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg183/taipansky/serendraad.jpg

here's an updated site development plan of One Serendra

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i37/llaurenversion3/urbanity/1cce0cb7.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg183/taipansky/serendraad.jpg

I like it. This is the best building in One Serendra sofar IMO. This will complement the whole Serendra development.

Im really excited about BGC. The developments are simply getting better and better.

anybody know what the procedure is for turnover/walkthrough. I'm scheduled 18th of March. Thanks!

Has anyone posted this?

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/9919/serendra3sr3.jpg

Nice... For a while, I was wondering how they will blend the design of the two high rise towers to the current design of the mid rise buildings of serendra. I thought they will have it too modern and look out of placed. But the design is great. It has some elements of the serendra look but also it gives serendra a modern addition.

very nice....even it is boxy, it got the good looks!

I agree that it complements the Serendra design theme. It's perfect for its location! This would look very nice at the edge of BGC once its completed.

ano yung low rise structure na sandwiched ng phase 3a at 3b? link ba ito.

^^^^ It's a scenic walkway. In the future, exclusive "garden bridge" units will be offered in that area.

Sorry @tafftrader, nobody responded to your request here but I think there were discussions about turnover procedures in other threads before. Anyway I just hope everything went well with your turnover.






anybody know what the procedure is for turnover/walkthrough. I'm scheduled 18th of March. Thanks!

very nice

basically, unit was nowehere near ready! lots of small finishing touches to be done. windows scratched, kitchen desktop damaged, some flooring loose......anyway, they say another 2 weeks and it will be ready.

Havent checked this thread in a while...Serendra as a whole looks great! Towers compliment the rest of the project really well:okay:

I don't like the design.

my aerial shots of BGC taken March 15, 2008... they're somewhat hazy but you still get to see the whole of BGC including the northern side :

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i37/llaurenversion3/urbanity/8bba4729.jpg

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i37/llaurenversion3/urbanity/a96a5579.jpg

^^ Nice aerial shots Lauren. Kitang-kita ang Serendra! Aside from having a good eye, also got very steady hands too! :okay: :okay:

Ayala Land’s Serendra project caught in tax dispute

THE STATE agency in charge of disposing of military lands stands to pay up to P200 million in taxes in connection with an Ayala Land, Inc. project at Fort Bonifacio if the Bureau of Internal Revenue (BIR) refuses to honor its tax exemption.
The Bases Conversion Development Authority could end up paying P175 million in taxes based on P3.5 billion worth of units at the Serendra in Fort Bonifacio unless the tax bureau issues a ruling confirming the state agency’s tax exemption.
The Bases Conversion Development Authority could end up paying P175 million in taxes based on P3.5 billion worth of units at the Serendra in Fort Bonifacio unless the tax bureau issues a ruling confirming the state agency’s tax exemption. — BW File Photo

In fact, the Bases Conversion Development Authority (BCDA) was forced to pay P100 million in creditable withholding taxes last month — under protest — just so the titles of condominium units at the posh Serendra project could be transferred to buyers.

Last July, the BCDA asked tax officials not to collect the tax, but has written the BIR chief again because there has been no response to a request for a ruling.

The BCDA says its share of earnings from Serendra, a joint venture with Ayala Land and unit Community Innovations, Inc., is exempt from taxes under the Bases Conversion and Development Act, which says: " proceeds of the sale of portions of Fort Bonifacio shall not be diminished and therefore exempt from all forms of taxes and fees."

BCDA Vice-President Aileen R. Zosa said her agency has again sought clarification from the BIR on whether it is exempt from all taxes and fees, including the creditable withholding tax (CWT) as stipulated under the law.

"We have requested confirmation of our position that any proceeds to be collected by BCDA on the joint development agreement with Ayala Land, Inc. is exempt from all taxes and fees, including CWT," the agency said.

Ms. Zosa said the BCDA had submitted three written follow-ups on Oct. 1 and Nov. 20 last year and on March 13.

The agency, however, has started paying almost P100 million to cover the CWT of fully paid Serendra units and to transfer certificates of title to buyers. "We told BIR that we are paying them under protest. We are still waiting for the ruling."

BIR officials were not available for comment as of press time.

The BCDA said: "The sales proceeds and lease rentals from BCDA’s allocated units in Serendra are proceeds from the sale and/or disposition of portions of Fort Bonifacio. BCDA is the disposing agent of the government. Even our proceeds go to the government, not to the corporation."

Ms. Zosa said the BCDA could end up paying about P175 million in taxes based on P3.5 billion worth of units but the figure could still go up. "Not everything is sold yet the property is still being developed."

Serendra sits on a 12-hectare land at the Bonifacio Global City in Taguig. The mixed-use development consists of 60% open space and 40% "buildable" area.

Ayala Land spokesman Alfonso D. Reyes declined to comment on the tax issue.

Company data showed that out of 737 units in the One Serendra project, a total of 700 or 95% have been taken up while 1,140 units out of 1,200 in Two Serendra have been reserved.

The selling price for high-end units has reached P124,000 per square meter. — Bernardette S. Sto. Domingo/Businessworldonline

I did the initial inspection of my unit a couple of weeks ago. Yup, Section C won't be ready for occupancy anytime soon. Based on the condition of my unit and the hallways and such, I estimate another month for them to complete finishing up.

Couldn't get myself to be riled with the serendra folks though 'cause they're awfully nice people :) (Of course the salesperson who handled my purchase wasn't there. But that's par for course for her so I kinda expected that).

so, for my expat neighbors, don't plan on flying home expecting to live in your unit a couple of weeks after your walk through. You'd be disappointed. I'd even suggest you just have a local relative do the initial walkthrough.

I went as far as telling the serendra Quality Control engineer that I won't do a punchlisting inspection. It'll be a waste of time since the unit will fail muster anyway. (I had a 9 page checklist). I told him I'll just take a look at the unit.

Some initial observations -

1. they didn't use homogeneuos ceramic wall tiles, and since they also didn't use tile trims, the brown clay of the ceramic tile edges show at the bath tub area.

2. electric power for the unit is three phase - this means I'll need to double check their load schedule just to make sure the load is balanced. wire color coding wasn't followed, and I'm still weighing on whether I will make an issue out of it (pang-america kasi standards ko :lol:)

This also means that I can still do my old condo trick of connecting one hot and one ground wire to an outlet to get 120V power for my simple, non-electronic, 120V appliances.

3. there were a lot of loose and chipped ceramic floor tiles at the veranda.

4. the unit living/dining area overall looks so small. the beam over the windows/patio door is humunguous. I'll definitely need an ID.

5. kitchen cabinetry used field applied contact cement 1mm thk edge banding. am not too keen on the quality. I would have appreciated factory made 3mm edge banding, the cost differential is not that great in the first place.

6. the gardens between section B&C will have fruit bearing trees. hati-hati raw ang residents sa bunga nito. 'tis true, cross my heart. yan ang sabi ng serendra QC engineer :)

7. the maids room has a lot of exposed ducting and piping. It'll need quite a bit of work since I'll be converting the space for my own use.

Lastly Finale (the Art Gallery) is having a sale/exhibit of works by social realist painters. :lol: (panahon natin yan)

From one of my favorite wordsmiths, the disturbed author Poe

The Cask of Amontillado

"THE thousand injuries of Fortunato I had borne as I best could ; but when he ventured upon insult, I vowed revenge. You, who so well know the nature of my soul, will not suppose, however, that I gave utterance to a threat. At length I would be avenged ; this was a point definitively settled - but the very definitiveness with which it was resolved, precluded the idea of risk. I must not only punish, but punish with impunity. A wrong is unredressed when retribution overtakes its redresser. It is equally unredressed when the avenger fails to make himself felt as such to him who has done the wrong"

:lol:

^^ @gen1 thanks for sharing your walkthrough experience.

What happened to you? It looks like you were gone from SSC for about a month.

^^ one of the mods had a hard-on for my ass.

banned me for no apparent reason, not even a warning. I do not believe I made an offending post.

I was just anti-GMA. But with Tita Cory dying, I guess I will be reconsidering my advocacies. Her impending death will likely bring about the demise of my idealism.

Ahh, I think I know which one you're talking about. Anyway, I won't discuss it here because it's off topic. Baka magalit ang mga taga Serendra. Thanks again for sharing your walkthrough and welcome back.

really, banned ka for political remarks vs gma?

^^Really bro, I have no idea why I was banned. I'm just guessing it's my being anti-GMA, just to make some sense out of this.

I reviewed my previous posts, and saw nothing that would merit the treatment I got from the mods.

I was not given a warning, brigging, or an explanatory PM on which of my posts violated SSC rules.

Tingin ko may nag power trip lang na kolokoy.

Medyo OT na tayo, pero my last word on this harkens to Newton's Third Law Motion "For every action there will be an equal and opposite reaction"

^^ one of the mods had a hard-on for my ass.

banned me for no apparent reason, not even a warning. I do not believe I made an offending post.

I was just anti-GMA. But with Tita Cory dying, I guess I will be reconsidering my advocacies. Her impending death will likely bring about the demise of my idealism.


hehe! and i thought you've been tied up with work on your unit. welcome back neighbor! :)



Ayala Land’s Serendra project caught in tax dispute

THE STATE agency in charge of disposing of military lands stands to pay up to P200 million in taxes in connection with an Ayala Land, Inc. project at Fort Bonifacio if the Bureau of Internal Revenue (BIR) refuses to honor its tax exemption.
The Bases Conversion Development Authority could end up paying P175 million in taxes based on P3.5 billion worth of units at the Serendra in Fort Bonifacio unless the tax bureau issues a ruling confirming the state agency’s tax exemption.
The Bases Conversion Development Authority could end up paying P175 million in taxes based on P3.5 billion worth of units at the Serendra in Fort Bonifacio unless the tax bureau issues a ruling confirming the state agency’s tax exemption. — BW File Photo

In fact, the Bases Conversion Development Authority (BCDA) was forced to pay P100 million in creditable withholding taxes last month — under protest — just so the titles of condominium units at the posh Serendra project could be transferred to buyers.

Last July, the BCDA asked tax officials not to collect the tax, but has written the BIR chief again because there has been no response to a request for a ruling.

The BCDA says its share of earnings from Serendra, a joint venture with Ayala Land and unit Community Innovations, Inc., is exempt from taxes under the Bases Conversion and Development Act, which says: " proceeds of the sale of portions of Fort Bonifacio shall not be diminished and therefore exempt from all forms of taxes and fees."

BCDA Vice-President Aileen R. Zosa said her agency has again sought clarification from the BIR on whether it is exempt from all taxes and fees, including the creditable withholding tax (CWT) as stipulated under the law.

"We have requested confirmation of our position that any proceeds to be collected by BCDA on the joint development agreement with Ayala Land, Inc. is exempt from all taxes and fees, including CWT," the agency said.

Ms. Zosa said the BCDA had submitted three written follow-ups on Oct. 1 and Nov. 20 last year and on March 13.

The agency, however, has started paying almost P100 million to cover the CWT of fully paid Serendra units and to transfer certificates of title to buyers. "We told BIR that we are paying them under protest. We are still waiting for the ruling."

BIR officials were not available for comment as of press time.

The BCDA said: "The sales proceeds and lease rentals from BCDA’s allocated units in Serendra are proceeds from the sale and/or disposition of portions of Fort Bonifacio. BCDA is the disposing agent of the government. Even our proceeds go to the government, not to the corporation."

Ms. Zosa said the BCDA could end up paying about P175 million in taxes based on P3.5 billion worth of units but the figure could still go up. "Not everything is sold yet the property is still being developed."

Serendra sits on a 12-hectare land at the Bonifacio Global City in Taguig. The mixed-use development consists of 60% open space and 40% "buildable" area.

Ayala Land spokesman Alfonso D. Reyes declined to comment on the tax issue.

Company data showed that out of 737 units in the One Serendra project, a total of 700 or 95% have been taken up while 1,140 units out of 1,200 in Two Serendra have been reserved.

The selling price for high-end units has reached P124,000 per square meter. — Bernardette S. Sto. Domingo/Businessworldonline


IMO this is more of a case of 2 government agencies (BCDA & BIR) disagreeing over which of them will get the money

^^Really bro, I have no idea why I was banned. I'm just guessing it's my being anti-GMA, just to make some sense out of this.

I reviewed my previous posts, and saw nothing that would merit the treatment I got from the mods.

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Baka nga napagtripan ka lang. :bash: Good you're back though. :)

[QUOTE=gen1;19261102]I did the initial inspection of my unit a couple of weeks ago. Yup, Section C won't be ready for occupancy anytime soon. Based on the condition of my unit and the hallways and such, I estimate another month for them to complete finishing up.

Couldn't get myself to be riled with the serendra folks though 'cause they're awfully nice people :) (Of course the salesperson who handled my purchase wasn't there. But that's par for course for her so I kinda expected that).

so, for my expat neighbors, don't plan on flying home expecting to live in your unit a couple of weeks after your walk through. You'd be disappointed. I'd even suggest you just have a local relative do the initial walkthrough.

I went as far as telling the serendra Quality Control engineer that I won't do a punchlisting inspection. It'll be a waste of time since the unit will fail muster anyway. (I had a 9 page checklist). I told him I'll just take a look at the unit.

^^
@gen1 - hi, do you mind sharing your 9 page checklist :) para tulong mo na sa mga ignoramus na tulad ko. Thanks!

Thanks for the welcome guys. i'll post 1st walk through pics as soon as get back home (am out of town, ecking a living in mindanao :lol:). they're in my desktop at home. I even took a picture of the inside of the controversial grease trap :lol:

Hi mongka ! sure. It's a long list, but it's repetitive. the key is to have a page for every room/space so you wont overlook the small items. It's custom made for my apartment but it can be applied to your unit. lemme just fine tune it a bit para hindi nakakahiya i-post :)

I also brought a bagful of instruments but the thing that rattled the QC engr the most was the simple carpenters' level. It was most useful. and cheap, by the way.

Hi mongka ! sure. It's a long list, but it's repetitive. the key is to have a page for every room/space so you wont overlook the small items. It's custom made for my apartment but it can be applied to your unit. lemme just fine tune it a bit para hindi nakakahiya i-post :)


Hi @gen1, can you please repost the list in Real Estate for Dummies: Punchlisting and Turnover thread to share with fellow SSCers? --> http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=512063

Thanks a lot in advance! :)

Thanks for the welcome guys. i'll post 1st walk through pics as soon as get back home (am out of town, ecking a living in mindanao :lol:). they're in my desktop at home. I even took a picture of the inside of the controversial grease trap :lol:

Hi mongka ! sure. It's a long list, but it's repetitive. the key is to have a page for every room/space so you wont overlook the small items. It's custom made for my apartment but it can be applied to your unit. lemme just fine tune it a bit para hindi nakakahiya i-post :)

I also brought a bagful of instruments but the thing that rattled the QC engr the most was the simple carpenters' level. It was most useful. and cheap, by the way.

Oh well Hello Gen1, oh Hello Gen1..It's so nice to have you back where you belong..:lol: Sorry, lumalabas yong pagka Broadway-fanatic ko!:lol: Same here BTW...I like to look at your list. It might be exhaustive and repetitive but, true to form, its probably very detailed. Your avatar reminds me of the KM days.:)

I couldn't copy-paste the ms-word doc with its formatting. so medyo pangit tingnan ang checklist. Note that the checklist follows the specs of the materials for my particular unit. check your contract for the details of the specs for your unit.

also your contract will contain the dimension drawings of your unit. It will be helpful, yet frustrating to note that the total square footage of your unit include the space of the partition walls. In my case it included the massive stairwell firewalls

The column titles are as follows :

Item Pass Fail Comments

Masterbath Checklist :

Note:
Verify with serendra if temporary water connection to hot water line may be installed. If not request for static water pressure test on the hot water line

The list below should fall under the Column Title :
1. Door
a. Solid wood frame ?
b. Wood veneer inserts panels?
c. Check door for Squareness
d. Vertical Plumbness
e. Condition of Paintjob
f. Condition of hinges – chrome
g. Condition of hinges – complete screws ?
h. Condition of knob – chrome
2. Countertops
a. Material – Natural stone ?
b. Lavatory area – installed ?
c. Water Closet – installed ?
d. Around Bathtub – installed ?
e. Caulked all around?
f. Levelness
g. Squareness
3. Lavatory
a. Check for centeredness
b. Check for chipping
c. Caulked all around ?
d. Condition of hardware
e. Check water pressure
f. Check for leaks
g. Check for completeness of valves
4. Lavatory Closet
a. Squareness
b. Vertical Plumbness
c. Levelness of cabinet shelves
d. Condition of hardware – chrome
e. Condition of hardware – complete screws ?
5. Water closet
a. Check for centeredness
b. Check for chipping
c. Caulked all around ?
d. Condition of hardware
e. Check Flushing Action
f. Check Tank Refilling Time
g. Check for leaks
h. Check for completeness of valves
6. Bathtub
a. Check for centeredness
b. Check for chipping/nicks
c. Caulked all around ?
d. Condition of plumbing fixtures, chrome finish
e. Check water pressure
f. Check for leaks at valves
g. Tension Type Shower curtain rod?
7. Other Plumbing
a. Check for existence of Gate Valve for Hot water
b. -ditto- For cold water
8. Floor
a. Condition of 300mm x 300 mm Ceramic Tiles – adhesion to substrate
b. Condition of 300mm x 300 mm Ceramic Tiles – Evenness
c. Floor Drain, chromed, 4”x4”
d. Floor Drain Slope, correctness
9. Ceiling
a. Material, Type MR Gypsum board
b. Joint Finish
c. Paint finish condition
10. Walls
a. Paint finish condition
b. Evenness of cement plaster
c. Check for squareness
d. Check for vertical plumbness
11 Electricals
a. Check condition of lighting fixture
b. Check Operation of Light Switch
c. Check operation of exhaust vent
d. Check Centeredness of installed fixtures
e. Check for Convenience Outlet at Lavatory. GFCI installed?
f. Check Coverplates for Damage
g. Open random outlet and check for
i. Size 3.5mm Wire (2ea)
ii. Green Ground Wire (1ea)
iii. Check voltage/tightness of connection
h. Check insulation resistance

Master Bedroom Checklist

1. Door
a. Solid wood frame ?
b. Wood veneer inserts panels?
c. Check door for Squareness
d. Vertical Plumbness
e. Condition of Paintjob
f. Condition of hinges – chrome
g. Condition of hinges – screws
h. Condition of knob – chrome
2. Walls
a. Paint finish condition
b. Evenness of plaster
c. Condition of baseboard
d. Check for squareness
e. Check for vertical plumbness
3. Floor
a. Condition of 4x12 Narra Flooring – adhesion to substrate
b. Condition of 4x12 Narra Flooring – Swirl marks
c. Condition of 4x12 Narra Flooring – Evenness
d. Condition of Baseboard
4. Windows
a. Check Squareness
b. Plumbness
c. Operation of Windows
d. Gasket Condition
e. Glass Condition
f. Insect Screen condition
g. Check paint finish for scratches
5. Ceiling
a. Evenness of plaster
b. Joint Finish
c. Paint finish condition
d. Verify levelness of ceiling
e. Check for cracks
f. Check for cement plaster adhesion
6. Electricals
a. Check condition of lighting fixture/s
b. Check Operation of Light Switches
c. Verify Quantity of convenience outlet (one duplex outlet every 8 feet of wall)
d. Check for symmetry of installed lighting fixtures
e. Check Coverplates for Damage
f. Check telephone outlet (1ea)
g. Check for cable tv outlet
a. Open random outlets (2 ea) and check for
i. THWN 3.5mm Wire (2ea)
ii. THWN Green Ground Wire (1ea)
iii. Check voltage/tightness of connection
iv. Check insulation resistance of wires
h. Check for existence of heat detector

Living/Dining Room Checklist
1. Main Door
a. Solid wood frame ?
b. Wood veneer inserts panels?
c. Check door for Squareness
d. Vertical Plumbness
e. Condition of Paintjob
f. Condition of hinges – chrome
g. Condition of hinges – screws
h. Condition of knob – chrome
2. Terrace Door
a. Painted Aluminum ?
b. Condition of Glass?
c. Check door for Squareness
d. Vertical Plumbness
e. Condition of Paintjob
f. Condition of hinges – chrome
g. Condition of hinges – screws
h. Condition of knob – chrome
3. Windows
a. Check Squareness
b. Plumbness
c. Operation of Windows
d. Gasket Condition
e. Glass Condition
f. Insect Screen condition
4. Walls
a. Paint finish condition
b. Evenness of plaster
c. Condition of baseboard
d. Vertical plumbness
e. Condition of paint finish
5. Floor
a. Condition of 4x12 Narra Flooring – adhesion to substrate
b. Condition of 4x12 Narra Flooring – Swirl marks
c. Condition of 4x12 Narra Flooring – Evenness
d. Condition of Baseboard
1. Ceiling
a. Evenness of plaster
b. Joint Finish
c. Paint finish condition
2. Electricals
a. Check condition of lighting fixture/s
b. Check Operation of Light Switches
c. Verify Quantity of convenience outlet (one duplex outlet every 8 feet of wall)
d. Check for symmetry of installed lighting fixtures
e. Check Coverplates for Damage
f. Check telephone outlet (1ea)
g. Check for cable tv outlet
a. Open random outlets (2 ea) and check for
i. THWN 3.5mm Wire (2ea)
ii. THWN Green Ground Wire (1ea)
iii. Check voltage/tightness of connection
iv. Check insulation resistance of wires
h. Check for existence of heat detector

kitchen

1. Countertops
a. Material – Natural stone ?
b. Levelness
c. Squareness
d. Evenness of finish
2. Kitchen sink
a. Check for centeredness
b. Caulked all around ? Gasketed ?
c. Condition of plumbing hardware
d. Check water pressure
e. Check for leaks
f. Check for completeness of gate valves
3. Cabinet
a. Squareness
b. Vertical Plumbness
c. Levelness of cabinet shelves
d. Condition of hardware – chrome
e. Condition of hardware – screws
f. Condition of melamine finish
note thickness
g. Condition of melamine edge finish (note thickness)
4. Floor
a. Condition of 400mm x 400 mm Ceramic Tiles – adhesion to substrate
b. Condition of 400mm x 400 mm Ceramic Tiles – Evenness
c. Floor Drain Slope, correctness
d. Baseboard
5. Ceiling
a. Evenness of gyp ceiling
b. Material Type MR ?
c. Joint Finish
d. Paint finish condition
6. Walls
a. Paint finish condition
b. Evenness of plaster
c. Condition of baseboard
d. Vertical plumbness
e. Condition of paint finish
7. Electricals
a. Check condition of lighting fixtures
b. Check Operation of Light Switch
c. Check operation of exhaust vent
d. Check Centeredness of installed fixtures
e. Check for Convenience Outlets
f. Check for Ref Outlet (verify size of wire installed)
g. Check for Oven Outlet (verify size of wire installed and circuit breaker size)
h. Check Coverplates for Damage
i. Open random outlet and check for
i. Size 3.5mm Wire (2 ea)
ii. Green Ground Wire (1ea)
iii. Check voltage/tightness of connection
j. Check for rate of rise heat detector
k. Check operation of guest annunciator

General Electrical
1. Convenience Outlets
a. Check Plates
b. Check Gounding Wire
c. Check for power
2. Switches
a. Check operation
3. Power Panel
a. Open and check for grounding bus
b. Check proper torque of wires
c. Check for workmanlike termination of wires (reject if “spaghetti wiring is observed”
d. Note for proper marking of branches
e. Meg check wires (insulation resistance)
f. Note Size of main circuit breaker
g. Note size of branch circuit breakers
h. Verify existence of spare circuit breaker
4.
5. Note location of outlets and switches
6. Note rating of CBs for Aircons
7. Ask for option of A/C for maids rm
8. Note location of provisions for split types
9. Check circuit breaker and wire of water heater provision

How-Tos

Using the carpenter's level

The carpenters level is that ruler like thing with the mall tube of green fluid with a bubble. Like many things in life, the longer the carpenter's level, the better. You can get away with a 6inch "torpedo" level but a 24inch macho man carpenters level is preferred :lol:

You use it to -
1. Check for vertical plumbness. means the wall or cabinet is set at a 90 deg angle with respect to the floor. we don't want a leaning tower of pisa type wall - masakit sa mata.
Hold it against the wall or cabinet in question and see that bubble is between the lines
2. Check for levelness. Hold it against the countertop, cabinet, window, door, or floor in question

Carpenters Square

Its the L-shaped thingy used to check adjacent structures (wall to floor, wall to wall, door frame, etc) for squareness (skwalado)

A door or window frame that is not square will be difficult to close/operate. Walls that are not square is an eyesore.

BTW I noticed that my serendra unit kitchen wall is not square.

electrical multi tester

use it to verify voltages at your outlets. Note that our meter centers are located at the basement, which means our power lines have a long way to travel to our units. Any voltages significantly lower than 220V is symptomatic of loose wire connections.

BTW, with the distance of our meter center to our units, significant voltage drops may be noticed once we start heavily using appliances (this means our 220V outlets may start showing 200V only when we operate all our aircons at the same time).

Voltage drops are mitigated at the design stage, and I intend to check their voltage drop calculations.

megger (megohmmeter)

used to check for insulation resistance of wires. this is an optional test as the tester is expensive. I have it, so I use it :lol:

the rest of the items may be checked using our eyes :)

Hi @gen1, can you please repost the list in Real Estate for Dummies: Punchlisting and Turnover thread to share with fellow SSCers? --> http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=512063

Thanks a lot in advance! :)

Hi TC,

Let's have the checklist stew here in this thread for a while for additional input by the serendrans. Quite a few have completed their turnovers and their insights will be invaluable.

Oh well Hello Gen1, oh Hello Gen1..It's so nice to have you back where you belong..:lol: Sorry, lumalabas yong pagka Broadway-fanatic ko!:lol: Same here BTW...I like to look at your list. It might be exhaustive and repetitive but, true to form, its probably very detailed. Your avatar reminds me of the KM days.:)

ha,ha. I wasn't KM. I was at most a socdem at UP (part of the jesuit mafia :lol:), and back in the 80's our university-wide org received close to 100K a year from the west german socdems. of course when it was my turn to head the org the grant had run its course and I had to scramble for internally generated funds to run our org. the KM was better funded :lol:

Hi TC,

Let's have the checklist stew here in this thread for a while for additional input by the serendrans. Quite a few have completed their turnovers and their insights will be invaluable.


Your list looks good and ready so let us post the initial list there with the caveat that it may still need some tweaking. It might be hard to search these posts again after it gets buried in discussions here. Anyway, your call. :)

wow! that's a long list Gen1.. very helpful indeed!

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a91/EnozAnewor/dm3naceserendra.jpg

taken by dm3nace from flickr

^^ looks like that was shot from SoMa. thanks for sharing.

Ditto, @IsaganiZenze! That's Sec E, 2Serendra in the foreground...my future home. I have a unit with an enclosed balcony like those in the extreme right of the picture. Nice to know that some of those windows are operable.

Thanks for that the very detailed checklist @gen1 (didn't expect anything less from you). It will come in handy when my walk-thru finally comes.

Thanks for that the very detailed checklist @gen1 (didn't expect anything less from you). It will come in handy when my walk-thru finally comes.

Ditto, gen1. Thanks a lot!
Your list belongs to my turnover spreadsheet and to let you know I named it after you 'gen1-9er' for posterity! You deserve a hug from all of us!:grouphug:!

i tried to post this info last night but was disconnected. our condominium corporation was incorporated on March 12, 2008. association dues starting in April 2008 for One Serendra Phase 1 Section A is P92.00 per sqm
additional P10.00 for common area RPT
and P6.92 common area insurance

dues may be paid monthly (within the first seven days of the month) or quarterly (within the first 15 days of the first month of the quarter)

^^ ei, you're back?!? weebee, Bart!! :)

wow! that's a long list Gen1.. very helpful indeed!

Ditto, gen1. Thanks a lot!
Your list belongs to my turnover spreadsheet and to let you know I named it after you 'gen1-9er' for posterity! You deserve a hug from all of us!:grouphug:!

Thanks for that the very detailed checklist @gen1 (didn't expect anything less from you). It will come in handy when my walk-thru finally comes.

Guys, I'm flattered you found the list useful. I only made the list that long to impress my wife :lol:

Your list looks good and ready so let us post the initial list there with the caveat that it may still need some tweaking. It might be hard to search these posts again after it gets buried in discussions here. Anyway, your call. :)

Hi TC,

Sure you could post the list in the thread if you think it'll be useful there.

^^ ei, you're back?!? weebee, Bart!! :)

yessireee! thanks :)

Uy ! ! ! baka it's time for serendra resident #1 to start a serendra summer tradition by sponsoring the first poolside barbeque of the season, ha,ha.

Wow back in Pinas na pala si Bart. Kainggit! Enjoy ka diyan! :)

Uy ! ! ! baka it's time for serendra resident #1 to start a serendra summer tradition by sponsoring the first poolside barbeque of the season, ha,ha.
nakuh, i don't have the time to plan such things. plus i'm only here for a short visit. pa renew ng car insurance, magbayad cable tv, utilities, HOA, etc. next week, i'm off to romblon for about 5 days to do exploratory dives of some potential sites. then, i'll have less than two weeks and balik na ulit sa states.

i'll send you my number via pm. if you're in the area, let's have some beers with other bgcitizens. sila dvorak (erwin) at double bee (aldrin) madaling kaladkarin :cheers:

welcome back the bartman!!! :cheers:

nakuh, i don't have the time to plan such things. plus i'm only here for a short visit. pa renew ng car insurance, magbayad cable tv, utilities, HOA, etc. next week, i'm off to romblon for about 5 days to do exploratory dives of some potential sites. then, i'll have less than two weeks and balik na ulit sa states.

i'll send you my number via pm. if you're in the area, let's have some beers with other bgcitizens. sila dvorak (erwin) at double bee (aldrin) madaling kaladkarin :cheers:

nakuh, i don't have the time to plan such things. plus i'm only here for a short visit. pa renew ng car insurance, magbayad cable tv, utilities, HOA, etc. next week, i'm off to romblon for about 5 days to do exploratory dives of some potential sites. then, i'll have less than two weeks and balik na ulit sa states.

i'll send you my number via pm. if you're in the area, let's have some beers with other bgcitizens. sila dvorak (erwin) at double bee (aldrin) madaling kaladkarin :cheers:

Parang ok kasi to start some traditions because we are, essentially, a new community at serendra. Judging from how civil and nice we are to each other in this thread, this community looks promising :)

(sa ibang thread, nakakalungkot ang mga away ng mga future na magkakapitbahay)

I'm at somerset near AIM today and tomorrow. But am not sure if I can go out. My wife is arriving tonight kasi from chicago, kaya baka hindi ako maka-alis on a for the boys for the next couple of days.

kung gusto ninyo, lets just have dinner somewhere at Greenbelt tomorrow.

I'll text you my number.

Parang ok kasi to start some traditions because we are, essentially, a new community at serendra. Judging from how civil and nice we are to each other in this thread, this community looks promising :)

(sa ibang thread, nakakalungkot ang mga away ng mga future na magkakapitbahay)

I'm at somerset near AIM today and tomorrow. But am not sure if I can go out. My wife is arriving tonight kasi from chicago, kaya baka hindi ako maka-alis on a for the boys for the next couple of days.

kung gusto ninyo, lets just have dinner somewhere at Greenbelt tomorrow.

I'll text you my number.

greenbelt dinner is fine with me :)

**serendra news**
we're having a fire safety seminar from the bureau of fire protection tomorrow from 9 - 11 am
then a first aid seminar from the red cross from 1 - 4 pm
attendance, of course is optional

there will be a fire/emergency drill on april 4 at 9 am

greenbelt dinner is fine with me :)

**serendra news**
we're having a fire safety seminar from the bureau of fire protection tomorrow from 9 - 11 am
then a first aid seminar from the red cross from 1 - 4 pm
attendance, of course is optional

there will be a fire/emergency drill on april 4 at 9 am

@bartman, hope all is well!:cheers::cheers: ABE, ingggit na ako sa iyo; panay na ang uwi mo at may bagong tsokaran na naman. Bart, nabanggit ni @gen1 na the wife would be arriving from Chicago. When you guys get together, its okay to mention us in your conversation and I would greatly appreciate it if you would PM me, if it's ok with you, for my list of new friends/future neighbors. Have fun, take care and regards to all of you.:):):)ono.

welcome back the bartman!!! :cheers:

erwin.. kmusta... i replied to your email, just check it....

welcome back Bart.... Mr. Serendra !!!
Sarap ng buhay mo talaga !!! aarrggghhhhhhhhhhhhh. KAINGIT !
Regards to Bibsy....

thanks,
Greg

@Greg - down mail server namin sa Australia.. baka bukas ko pa matanggap yung email mo.. balita?? balita kay koya antz??

nice meeting Gen1 and nice meeting the bartman again!!! :banana:

erwin.. kmusta... i replied to your email, just check it....

welcome back Bart.... Mr. Serendra !!!
Sarap ng buhay mo talaga !!! aarrggghhhhhhhhhhhhh. KAINGIT !
Regards to Bibsy....

thanks,
Greg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/avanzaclubph-logo-gold-avatar.jpg

erwin.. kmusta... i replied to your email, just check it....

welcome back Bart.... Mr. Serendra !!!
Sarap ng buhay mo talaga !!! aarrggghhhhhhhhhhhhh. KAINGIT !
Regards to Bibsy....

thanks,
Greg
koya naligaw ka dito!
set up mo na yung BAM/SCAM meet natin sa vegas :banana:

Just to say thanks to Gen1 for the dinner last night! Thanks! and nice seeing the Bartman again. :)

That's a nice avanza club logo there Dvorak!:lol:

I've decided to sell our Two Serendra studio unit (and thinking of getting a bigger unit). E-mail me - I'm looking for a good, reliable and professional broker and/or buyer, serious intentions and inquiries only, please!

Thanks to all! :)

I've decided to sell our Two Serendra studio unit (and thinking of getting a bigger unit). E-mail me - I'm looking for a good, reliable and professional broker and/or buyer, serious intentions and inquiries only, please!

Thanks to all! :)

How much are you asking for the Serendra 2 studio unit, and what bldg and unit #

Thank you

Hi I'm a broker and I would like to offer your two serendra studio unit to my client. I just need to get more information on the property. How many square meters, does it come with parking, selling price, view of the unit. You can email the details to be at konzertrealty@yahoo.com or call me directly at my mobile 09189413495. Thank you

Hey Dvorak, Double Bee, and Bart. That was a cool EB. Thanks for coming. And I didn't know they had those so close to the financial district :lol:

(nagbebenta ng balut at penoy. kayo naman, gud boys kami :lol:)

Let's do it again soon, and at a more risque location :lol:

Good news!

Red Oak at Two Serendra is now accepting Letters of Intent! :)

Hey Dvorak, Double Bee, and Bart. That was a cool EB. Thanks for coming. And I didn't know they had those so close to the financial district :lol:

(nagbebenta ng balut at penoy. kayo naman, gud boys kami :lol:)

Let's do it again soon, and at a more risque location :lol:

heheheh pasyal ka sa bonicitizens thread. approved na yung citizenship petition na ginawa ko para sa iyo. :cheers:

kailangan din yung e-mail address mo para sa sidebar discussions tungkol sa mga penoy at balot vendors :lol:

ha,ha,ha. ok, thanks. will pm you my email address.

Blow-by-blow pics of my inspection conducted in early march.


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We waited in the function room while they prepared the unit. They gave us bottles of mineral water. That's me with my back turned, and my brother facing the cam. I brought my brother along because I wasn't sure if the serendra peeps will be difficult or not. Alone I may look wimpy. But with my brother, we present a positively frightening sight :lol: (the serendra peeps were really nice, so the precaution was unnecessary)

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The hallways. It is evident that section C is in not ready to have residents moving in. But you will see that the floor and baseboards are granite.

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The Serendra Quality Control Guy. We were really just taking pics of the unit, so any person in the pic is just incidental. (That accounts for the numeruos pics with peoples backs :lol:)

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Pic of the kitchen. Nice. But if you look closely, you will notice that the kitchen exhaust is off-vertical. a quick check with the carpenters level confirmed this. the carpenters level test is necessary because it may be that it is the exhaust is true but the cabinets are not.

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Pic of the cabinetry with the apparently contact cement glued on edge banding. Hindi yan papasa kay pareng Oilmover ! ! ! :) notice the ragged lines which is the result of an exacto-knife cut. Compare that with the factory made edge banding of the cabinet doors (also in the same pic)

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The controversial grease trap. my take on this is, I don't want to ever see again what I've sent down the drain :lol: I ain't cleaning that.

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This is a nice surprise :)

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This is not :( I was expecting a double bowl.

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/2619/img6773gr0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Pic of the kitchen. Nice. But if you look closely, you will notice that the kitchen exhaust is off-vertical. a quick check with the carpenters level confirmed this. the carpenters level test is necessary because it may be that it is the exhaust is true but the cabinets are not.

When I first saw this pic, I quickly noticed the off-vertical exhaust/range hood. It was so obvious (even without having read what you wrote at the bottom of the pic) that I don't know what happened to the installer and the person (a quality control guy?) who checked this installation. Did he even check? Oh well...