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ChicTown

April 17th, 2007, 05:33 PM

one of the reasons i bought in serendra (and where i bought in particular) was market2. it's right across the street from my unit (don't have to drive and pay for parking). lots of food for cheap. i don't even have to eat there; i can just buy food to go and take it back to my unit.

victor - my inspection/acceptance starts on the 26th. should there be anything that needs to be fixed, i hope everything will be done (as well as my shopping for ref, a/c, stove) by the time my container arrives (ETA may 9). as i said before, you are welcome to crash at my place.

@bartman, have a safe trip and be careful out there. Re. the appliances, having surveyed/priced my preferences, I purchased a side-by-side LG reefer, an Italian made stainless steel gas/electric(oven) combo range, a front loader LG washer with built-in heater and Whirpool electric dryer (space dependent) that can be stacked, at MegaMall during a promo event by the Ayala Group. Savings was significant and there were perks tied to the purchase. For the split-type Carrier A/C, it's a 2-tonner, for cooling the living, dining and kitchen areas, from Abenson. Big discounts compelled my motives. For the A/C installation, I chose SSM Service (Marlon surveyed my condo) based on knowledge, cost and reliability. But I still do recommend to get at least 3 quotes/bidding. For a water heater, I bought it from MC Home Depot and installed it myself. Take measurements of the appliances locations to eliminate guessing and reduce your shopping time. There's an Abenson Store in Market2 to get ideas on prices. Remember Pare to haggle, haggle, haggle.... it's consumers' game played there, you know that. Hope this info helps. Good luck and regards.

realtor_manila

April 17th, 2007, 06:23 PM

Hello Bart!

1) For your appliances, you can get further discount from Abenson at Market! Market! (Basta, ask for a discount; tell them that you're paying cash).

Okay, in shopping, just be simple. Never never give the vendors an idea that you're a balikbayan.... Kunyari pa-poor effect ka. (Now how do you act "poor" if you have a unit at Serendra? Bart, figure that out!!!) ha ha ha! :lol: :lol: :lol:

2) Before buying an aircon unit, I suggest that you should have your place surveyed, just to make sure that the capacity (ie, horsepower/HP) of the aircon that you will buy is appropriate for the floor area.

Good luck and looking forward to meet you!

gasrock

April 17th, 2007, 09:29 PM

victor - my inspection/acceptance starts on the 26th. should there be anything that needs to be fixed, i hope everything will be done (as well as my shopping for ref, a/c, stove) by the time my container arrives (ETA may 9). as i said before, you are welcome to crash at my place.
Bart - Thanks for your offer again....don't worry if I ever get in a bind regarding accomodations you will be the first option I have in mind. As it is I have rented a unit in Eastwood.....not my ideal or first choice but I was short on time planning this trip so it will have to do for now. I'll just have to commute to Fort Boni everyday.
Btw...in case you have not checked your pm Ernie sent his contact number if you want to meet for coffee. Ang galing naman...magaabot tayo diyan. I will have a whole month of nothing in my schedule so if you have not purchased your appliances yet by next month I might go along with you shopping just to get a feel for the prices and the effort involved. I can also help you move in when your cargo container gets there.....we'll get in touch.

Dvorak

April 18th, 2007, 03:43 AM

for aircon and heater.. i can provide you guys with contact numbers don sa nag install sa Boni Ridge..

theOCdiva

April 18th, 2007, 07:22 AM

Dvorak

April 18th, 2007, 08:44 AM

gasrock

April 19th, 2007, 12:57 AM

Mukhang maganda naman ang bahay kainan.....open sa labas ang table area...puedeng mag people watching habang kumakain. I think I can handle eating lunch here everyday.....basta huwag lang maraming langaw (flies)

Dvorak

April 19th, 2007, 04:43 AM

malaki ang loob nyan.. at aircon yan kaya walang langaw..

kahapon nga wala nang place.. ay dun kami nilagay sa parang function area nila.. ay may reception nang kasal.. eh di kasama kami sa kanila.. pati sa mga pictures at video kasama kami!! kala ko mag i interview pa ayy..:bash:

Mukhang maganda naman ang bahay kainan.....open sa labas ang table area...puedeng mag people watching habang kumakain. I think I can handle eating lunch here everyday.....basta huwag lang maraming langaw (flies)

KiBeN

April 19th, 2007, 04:52 AM

@Vic - here's Seafood Island and Kamay Kainan at market market.. we had lunch today at kamay kainan.. Php218++ buffet.. ayy busog!

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/FBGC/Mm1.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/FBGC/Mm2.jpg

nice Kamay-kainan! kaklase ko may-are nyan! hahaha, parati kaming kumakain dyan tuwing b-day nya at namimigay din siya ng parang free meal and coupons ba tawag dun? yung good for 5 etc. iprepresent lang namin sa waiter then pwede na kaming kumain ng walang bayad hahaha:banana:

gasrock

April 19th, 2007, 05:03 AM

^^ ^^ Eh di tubig na lang ang inorder ninyo at naki kain na lang kayo sa reception ng kasal.....:lol: Nag bibiro lang ako ng tungkol sa langaw. Pero talaga....nakakain ako sa isang lugar sa Paranaque so loob ng wet market.....talagang tunay na palengke. Bili kami ng mga seafood sa mga nagtitinda....tapos dinala namin sa kainan at sila ang magluluto. Konting hintay lang luto na ang pinamili naming seafood. Maliit lang ang lugar at tabi tabi lahat....walang kanya kanyang la mesa. Ang table cloth ay iyong plastic na maraming kulay....parang psychedelic ang design. Ang mga dining plates ay bungi bungi at ang iba may crack na....maski na iyong table napkin nila ay sobrang liit at nipis...parang wipes ng eyeglasses ang tingin ko. At ang talagang hindi ko makalimutan ay ang thousands na langaw.....sa loob ba naman ng wet market eh. Kaya maski gaano kadami ang kainin ko ay pakiramdam ko hindi ako tumataba kasi sabay ang kain at exercise sa kakabugaw sa langaw....isang kamay pang kain...ang kabilang kamay pang bugaw ng langaw. Pero sa totoo lang it was memorable sa akin dahil sa "ambiance and athmosphere" at saka talagang masarap ang luto at fresh na fresh talaga ang seafood. Pagkatapos ng kain ay may hugasan ng kamay doon mismo sa isang corner ng kainan....hindi ko matawag na restaurant kasi so sobrang liit parang karinderia lang. I won't even mention the restroom but you can imagine how small that was.
I think I will ask my classmate to take me there again.

Lili

April 19th, 2007, 05:08 AM

^^ Kaya nakakatuwa si @gasrock -- very down to earth. Nakakatawa rin mag-kuento.

Dvorak

April 19th, 2007, 05:32 AM

sa paranaque.. malapit sa AF1?? ehh dampa yan.. iba na itsura nyan ngayon.. aircon na rin yung mga kainan.. nandon pa rin yung palengke.. bibili ka pa rin.. tapos dadalhin mo sa mga resto para paluto..

meron din nyan sa baclaran at sa ortigas..

^^ ^^ Eh di tubig na lang ang inorder ninyo at naki kain na lang kayo sa reception ng kasal.....:lol: Nag bibiro lang ako ng tungkol sa langaw. Pero talaga....nakakain ako sa isang lugar sa Paranaque so loob ng wet market.....talagang tunay na palengke. Bili kami ng mga seafood sa mga nagtitinda....tapos dinala namin sa kainan at sila ang magluluto. Konting hintay lang luto na ang pinamili naming seafood. Maliit lang ang lugar at tabi tabi lahat....walang kanya kanyang la mesa. Ang table cloth ay iyong plastic na maraming kulay....parang psychedelic ang design. Ang mga dining plates ay bungi bungi at ang iba may crack na....maski na iyong table napkin nila ay sobrang liit at nipis...parang wipes ng eyeglasses ang tingin ko. At ang talagang hindi ko makalimutan ay ang thousands na langaw.....sa loob ba naman ng wet market eh. Kaya maski gaano kadami ang kainin ko ay pakiramdam ko hindi ako tumataba kasi sabay ang kain at exercise sa kakabugaw sa langaw....isang kamay pang kain...ang kabilang kamay pang bugaw ng langaw. Pero sa totoo lang it was memorable sa akin dahil sa "ambiance and athmosphere" at saka talagang masarap ang luto at fresh na fresh talaga ang seafood. Pagkatapos ng kain ay may hugasan ng kamay doon mismo sa isang corner ng kainan....hindi ko matawag na restaurant kasi so sobrang liit parang karinderia lang. I won't even mention the restroom but you can imagine how small that was.
I think I will ask my classmate to take me there again.

icel

April 19th, 2007, 07:45 AM

crappypants

April 19th, 2007, 08:19 AM

is that the one by home depot ortigas? medyo maliit yung palengke nila at mga palutuan, pero mas malinis siya kesa sa paranaque.

Dvorak

April 19th, 2007, 08:32 AM

yup.. yung malapit sa Pier One.. i think it's called Seaside Market or something..

is that the one by home depot ortigas? medyo maliit yung palengke nila at mga palutuan, pero mas malinis siya kesa sa paranaque.

icel

April 19th, 2007, 08:37 AM

yep, thats the one. tried the same lutuan in G-Squared in Roxas na dampa, but it wasnt that good as the one in Ortigas.

gasrock

April 19th, 2007, 08:46 AM

sa paranaque.. malapit sa AF1?? ehh dampa yan.. iba na itsura nyan ngayon.. aircon na rin yung mga kainan.. nandon pa rin yung palengke.. bibili ka pa rin.. tapos dadalhin mo sa mga resto para paluto..

meron din nyan sa baclaran at sa ortigas..
Tama ka....dampa nga yata ang pangalan noong lugar...at nakita ko na rin yata yung dampa sa Ortigas....palengke din kaya lang hindi basa ang suwelo...medyo malinis maski ang amoy ay amoy palengke din. Pero ang dampa sa Ortigas mayroon kayong sariling kuwarto good for maybe a dozen people. Magaling kung aircon na ang dampa sa Paranaque.....baka hundreds of langaw na lang at hindi na masyadong kailangan magbugaw habang kumakain. Talagang tanda ko ang suwelo ng dampa sa Paranaque ay cemento nga pero talagang basa at maputik....eh naka sandals lang ang suot ko dahil mainit mag medyas kaya habang kumakain ay nararamdaman kong malagkit ang aking mga paa.....pero hala....sige....bira pa rin ng kain.

Hi, newbie here, first post! woohoo! hehe. :)

to share.. try the dampa in ortigas, and try the resto G-Squared. sarap magluto! if you dont want to be the ones to buy from the market, they can do that for you too.
Hello @icel and welcome to the thread.....looking at your avatar it looks like you are affiliated with the Ayala group?

Cropduster

April 19th, 2007, 07:38 PM

I have been to Dampa in Paranaque and Macapagal Ave/Roxas Boulevard they are some of the best seafood I have had in the Philippines. :) Where is the one in Ortigas, I live near there ?

Also, back to the topic. Serendra is a great location, I went there last week. Got out of the cab at Market Market! then took a stroll through Serendra and along Bonifacio Highstreet and then to Pier 1 for dinner. Very nice, and wherever you are in the Fort its really walking distance (if its not too hot anyway!)

Dvorak

April 20th, 2007, 04:33 AM

at the back of MetroWalk, near Pier One.

I have been to Dampa in Paranaque and Macapagal Ave/Roxas Boulevard they are some of the best seafood I have had in the Philippines. :) Where is the one in Ortigas, I live near there ?

Also, back to the topic. Serendra is a great location, I went there last week. Got out of the cab at Market Market! then took a stroll through Serendra and along Bonifacio Highstreet and then to Pier 1 for dinner. Very nice, and wherever you are in the Fort its really walking distance (if its not too hot anyway!)

icel

April 21st, 2007, 06:32 AM

Hello @icel and welcome to the thread.....looking at your avatar it looks like you are affiliated with the Ayala group?

thanks gasrock! :) yup, im with the Ayala Land Premier brand. a client actually referred me to this forum. very informative!

I hope I can contribute too. :)

Ill be posting some actual pictures of ONE SERENDRA soon, hopefully later. i havent uploaded them kasi. just got them yesterday

ameks

April 21st, 2007, 07:27 AM

Just joined this forum. Been reading the old postings and found them very entertaining and informative. Still feeling my way around on how to post messages and photos. I'm sure there'll be a lot of faux pas in store for me.

gasrock

April 21st, 2007, 07:48 AM

welcome ameks to the thread. If you are a serendra owner you will find this thread informative and chockfull of photos and updates. This is also a perfect place to meet your future serendra neighbors. Don't worry about making mistakes you'll have plenty of help from other forumers on how to post and such.

ChicTown

April 21st, 2007, 03:57 PM

Hi, newbie here, first post! woohoo! hehe. :)

to share.. try the dampa in ortigas, and try the resto G-Squared. sarap magluto! if you dont want to be the ones to buy from the market, they can do that for you too.

Welcome to the thread @icel. I, for one, am glad to see more Ayala Land Sales/Investment Reps. joining the forums and sharing their real estate/condo dev. knowledge with the public through a thread as this one. Again, welcome and good luck in all your endeavor. Regards to you, Carl Dy, our niece Pamela Panotes and ex-ALSI Jon Orillosa. All the best wishes to you folks!:banana: :banana: :banana:

ameks

April 21st, 2007, 06:32 PM

Thanks for the Welcome Mat Gasrock. I did just purchased a unit at two Serendra. My unit won't be ready until 2010 ( I think there's a huge hole right now where my unit is supposed to be). I've read the anxiety and excitement of a few folks who're just getting ready for a walk through. Congratulations to those who'll get their units soon! Your long wait has finally arrived. I did find this forum very informative. It really helped calm down my nerves during the period when I was deciding whether to go ahead with the purchase or not. I've always wanted to own a property at the Fort. I've had my eyes fixed on the area ever since it was just a huge tract of land with only a few tall buildings standing. Today, the area has been clearly transformed. I fervently hope that planning for growth remains essential to the builders. Uncontrolled overbuilding will certainly diminish the desireablity of the area. I immensely enjoy the humors and sensible opinions expressed in this forum. I hope it remains the same for the forseeable future. I intend to contribute my thoughts occasionally though some may be controversial at times.

portludlow

April 21st, 2007, 07:57 PM

Overseas Filipino investors
fuel local real-estate market
http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2007/apr/22/yehey/property/20070422prop3.html

Filipinos overseas are fueling the local real-estate industry, snapping up tropgy properties and allowing the market to come if age.

Annual remittances from Filipinos living and working abroad grew by 25 percent and were forecast to exceed the $12-billion mark by end-2006. the inflows contributed significant to country’s international reserves, spur consumer demand and help stimulate investment, particularly in real estate, as stated in last year’s government report.

Dave Rafael, general manager of Ayala Land International Sales Inc., in the past years alone, sales for Ayala Land to OFW improved from 25 percent to close to 35 percent in the following year.

“A very big jump in terms of sales accounted for by the overseas market,” Rafael said. “And the trend going forward is even increasing.”

He added that location is the most important criteria for them, and this basically means their home must be centrally located in the malls, hospital, churches and relatives.

Indicative of this is the pace of sales of Two Serendra, a project of Community Innovations known not only for being situated in the middle of every conceivable convenience city living can provide but for being a haven dedicated to verdant landscapes and expansive open spaces as well.

While the development has long prospered from its proximity to the Makati business district from local buyers, their cachet has now spread overseas, drawing Filipino investors from abroad.

“Two Serendra has been one of our top sellers, particularly for the Filipino-American market,” Rafael explains. “The Fil-Ams abroad, their homes are located in suburbs—surrounded by greens, open spaces, clean air. Their biggest concern in the Philippines is the traffic, so they want a very central location that is close to everything.”

The 12-hectare development therefore, with 65 percent of the property devoted to greens and open spaces, impeccably master-planned community and central location, is a very compelling proposition for investors who are looking to fuse the ease of the urban lifestyle with all the comforts of suburbia in their home.

I think this is an excellent investment. Ayala Land has the credibility and experience to make this ongoing project a success.

Pero...Napansin ko lang, most newspaper articles regarding general real estate. The story end up into marketing push. They also dont show who did the write-up. They should sometimes cite pros and cons to have investors make inteligient decisions what and where to buy. Wala lang....:)

3cr

April 22nd, 2007, 11:43 AM

Serendra is a great location, I went there last week. Got out of the cab at Market Market! then took a stroll through Serendra and along Bonifacio Highstreet and then to Pier 1 for dinner. Very nice, and wherever you are in the Fort its really walking distance (if its not too hot anyway!)
^^ Yup I agree. It really shows the genius behind Ayala's reworking of the Global City as well as High Street's elongated shape and design which has made alot more areas/projects desirable and convenient because of quick access to the said strip mall and this inturn has increased prices of many more lots and projects proportionately in and around Fort Bonifacio. A real Win-Win situation for both the developer(s) and buyers/investors! Ganda talaga ng Fort Boni / Serendra! :okay: :okay: :okay:

City Center at FBGC

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/222/fbgczm6.jpg

The future of the city center; a glimpse of the BGC's Center upon completion... taken from the Bonifacioglobalcity.ph ...

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/JAMAICUS/FortBoni.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/JAMAICUS/boni2.jpg

ipuka2004

April 22nd, 2007, 12:58 PM

ipuka2004

April 22nd, 2007, 01:11 PM

thanks gasrock! :) yup, im with the Ayala Land Premier brand. a client actually referred me to this forum. very informative!

I hope I can contribute too. :)

Ill be posting some actual pictures of ONE SERENDRA soon, hopefully later. i havent uploaded them kasi. just got them yesterday

I am very much interested in the One Serendra pictures. Post it quick! Right now, I am planning on the changes I will be making inside the unit and it will be very helpful to see some photos before the actual turnover.

Graciela

April 22nd, 2007, 03:14 PM

I looked at the photos of One Serendra that was posted earlier, & I noticed that the windows in the living room facing the balcony don't go all the way to the floor. In the brochure & the model units that I saw, windows are from floor to ceiling.

ProjM

April 23rd, 2007, 03:05 AM

Originally Posted by JAMAICUS
The future of the city center; a glimpse of the BGC's Center upon completion... taken from the Bonifacioglobalcity.ph ...

^^ Hey Jamaicus I looked it up— http://www.bonifacioglobalcity.com.ph/ and thanks for that. But after few pages, I gave up. They used too much Flash on their website, making the site load as if I was using a super slow dial-up connection. I waited…waited…and waited…for the pages to load. Global City’s official site should not be designed like this imho--- It should load pages quickly and super-link to anything! Their site is creative but too artsy too fartsy for me. :) :)

IsaRic

April 23rd, 2007, 04:27 AM

i hope BGC will go away with yellow black stripe paintings all over the sidewalks and even the medians like they do on makati... it doesnt blend with concrete or the general surroundings...

Edmundtanso

April 23rd, 2007, 05:32 AM

i hope BGC will go away with yellow black stripe paintings all over the sidewalks and even the medians like they do on makati... it doesnt blend with concrete or the general surroundings...

i mentioned this also a while back, i hope they take those black and yellow stripping on the curbs, i dont see this done anywhere else except the philippines :ohno:

wynngd

April 23rd, 2007, 08:11 AM

looks like all the buildings in the future BGC are mid rise only. I think because the location very near to NAIA. Love to see a tall builing in the middle of BGC.

Sinjin P.

April 23rd, 2007, 11:52 AM

Roll out thread number 5 :colgate:

Mitch_Rivera

April 24th, 2007, 03:17 AM

On to the FIFTH thread for Serendra!!!! :dance:

Fire na'ko ha...hope it's ok for me to do the honors :)

Latest updates -

One Serendra

1. Good news! We have already started sending out turnover invitations to cash buyers for One Serendra A. Next in line are the 30-70 deferred buyers about to finish anytime soon and buyers who have availed of other schemes. You are invited to contact your Ayala agents for further instructions on the punchlisting and procedures but if your agent is no longer connected with us, you may contact Customer Services Desk Officer Charmaine Harn at (011 63) 841-5530 or at harn.charmaine@ayalaland.ph.

2. Option to furnish your One Serendra unit? We're still finalizing the mechanics so, pls standby for further details! :)

Two Serendra
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/3492/theastonattwoserendrarq5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Mitch_Rivera

April 24th, 2007, 04:27 AM

Looking at the future picture of BGC with all the buildings, there is an overpass from the second floor of Serendra to Market2. This would be great to avoid crossing such a busy street. Can someone from Ayala verify this?

I was also told that the traffic coming from McKinley road to Kalayaan and passing by Market2 will lessen because public transportation like jeepneys will be diverted. Can someone from Ayala also verify this?

hi ipuka 2004 :wave:

That overpass is in Two Serendra adjoining Sections A,B,C,D,E to the high rise towers. That has been in the plans since we replanned some sections of Serendra sometime late 2004. We'll confirm it again if it's going to be final.

We have already diverted jeepney traffic to pass through Market!Market! and to avoid the rotunda passing 26th ave. If we've met atleast an 88% construction milestone for the whole of BGC (if the High street has been occupied atleast 75% and Serendra has turned over atleast Section D), we are most likely to divert jeepney traffic to avoid the highly urbanized areas (High Street and Serendra).

Probably we'll divert the jeepneys to pass through Bellagio. Just kidding. :lol:

Hope this helps. Ciao bella! :wave:

Edmundtanso

April 24th, 2007, 05:50 AM

how about 2 serendra? any update on the turn over dates? thanks

Mitch_Rivera

April 24th, 2007, 06:57 AM

how about 2 serendra? any update on the turn over dates? thanks

Hi Edmund :wave: scheduling is still being finalized but as per customer relations, viewing and scheduling will commence by June. A scheduled date and time will also be included in the turnover invitation letter. Letters will be sent out to cash purchasers by hopefully last week of May. Will keep you posted. ;)

Hi again ipuka :wave: I don't have much but I hope these pics will help. These are the actual pics of the 2br and the 3br finished unit we took when we walked through the finished One Serendra Sec A last year -

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/7295/windowsbalconydoor2broq4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/4500/windowsca8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/2772/walkincloset1xx3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/4812/othersideterracelq9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/6760/tubru8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7834/toiletso0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/149/kitchensinkeb6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/8743/lightbulbxy3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/4950/kitchencountertop2broh2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
This is, if I'm not mistaken, the kitchen of a 2bedroom unit. Just a disclaimer, please do not expect however that this is going to be your exact kitchen config since all units in Serendra vary in layouts.

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/5928/kitchencabinetstm7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/8660/kitchenbd4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/8237/doorlz2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/4046/bathroomsinkiu2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Hope these will help. Let us know if we may assist you further. ;) Ciao! :wave:

Dvorak

April 24th, 2007, 06:59 AM

wow thanks for the pics @Mitch..

ganyan yata yung unit ni Lauren..

raf

April 24th, 2007, 07:02 AM

^^ thanks for the pix, the units look nice!
one question, does this development have hot water included or does the unit buyer still have to purchase a water heater?

Dvorak

April 24th, 2007, 07:11 AM

walang hot water.. you have to buy your own water heater and have it installed.. wala ding kasamang aircon..

^^ thanks for the pix, the units look nice!
one question, does this development have hot water included or does the unit buyer still have to purchase a water heater?

laquacherra

April 24th, 2007, 08:09 AM

@Mitch_Rivera, thanks for keeping us updated! :)

I see the high rises of two serendra will have names. (the first one starts with an "A", lemme guess... the next one will start with a "B" :lol: j/k )

i can't wait to see how the high rise component of one serendra will blend with the current low to mid rise buildings because they will be built right beside them (unlike at two serendra)

laquacherra

April 24th, 2007, 08:24 AM

Dvorak

April 24th, 2007, 08:40 AM

standard ba yung size nung bath tub?? parang maliit sa picture.. if those are 1 foot tiles.. eh wala pang 5 feet?

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/6760/tubru8.jpg

laquacherra

April 24th, 2007, 08:52 AM

standard ba yung size nung bath tub?? parang maliit sa picture.. if those are 1 foot tiles.. eh wala pang 5 feet?

yeah, it looks hobbit-size in the picture but i've seen mine already and it is standard

diz

April 24th, 2007, 08:58 AM

Haha it's as big as a sink..

Dvorak

April 24th, 2007, 09:04 AM

yun nga nasa isip ko.. kaya i checked the picture again.. sabi ko tama ba to.. ehh mukhang tama naman.. i mean maliit lang talaga sya for a bath tub..

Haha it's as big as a sink..

Mitch_Rivera

April 24th, 2007, 12:44 PM

Hi laquacherra! :wave:
Uy congrats on your unit! :banana: Do you have your homeowner's manual na? I heard there's going to be a concierge services for One Serendra that will follow the standard of 5-star hotels. Did they give discount coupons on furnitures or appliances? Will make sure that ALP people will hear your praises ;)

Hi Dvorak & diz! :wave:
Hahahaha onga! :lol: alala ko pinagkasha nalang namin sa camera yung tub...kasi the last time we checked kasya naman ako e ;)

Hi raf! :wave:
Anytime ;) Yup, Dvorak's right, you have to buy & install your own water heater.

A_Q

April 24th, 2007, 11:58 PM

Hello Everyone! My name is Archie and my parents own a unit at One Serendra. Actually, I've been reading posts in this thread since last year but I finally decided to join this great thread! All of the news articles and news about Serendra and BGC are awesome! Hope to see some of you in the near future at Serendra! :)

diz

April 25th, 2007, 01:26 AM

Hi Mitch! Kung tignan mo yung soap holder, a hand should definately be bigger than that. Kaya wag i-expect na bibili ng unit si Yao Ming dyan.

Sinjin P.

April 25th, 2007, 05:18 AM

http://i12.************/35n4ftd.jpg

Edmundtanso

April 25th, 2007, 05:27 AM

i wish they made the interior finishes better quality

Dvorak

April 25th, 2007, 05:30 AM

I think Ayala considered their target market on this project.. majority of which would fitout/renovate their units anyways.. so they just put the basic interior so that they could turn over the units faster. They're working overtime now to finish the units.

icel

April 25th, 2007, 06:05 AM

yeap, majority prefer to have their units interior designed din kasi.

btw, i have updated one serendra actual pictures. im just having a hard time accessing photobucket kaya hindi ko ma upload. any suggestions?

or i can email them to those who'd want to take a look. just pm me ur email addys. :)

laquacherra

April 25th, 2007, 09:58 AM

Hi laquacherra! :wave:
Uy congrats on your unit! :banana: Do you have your homeowner's manual na? I heard there's going to be a concierge services for One Serendra that will follow the standard of 5-star hotels. Did they give discount coupons on furnitures or appliances? Will make sure that ALP people will hear your praises ;)

yup! i've been reading the house rules etc... you're right about the concierge services :okay:

laquacherra

April 25th, 2007, 10:00 AM

yun nga nasa isip ko.. kaya i checked the picture again.. sabi ko tama ba to.. ehh mukhang tama naman.. i mean maliit lang talaga sya for a bath tub..

ei! i checked... the tub area from end to end measures 6-1/2 feet.

Dvorak

April 25th, 2007, 10:18 AM

yan yung nasa picture na ni post ni Mitch?? doesn't look like 6 feet to me.. :P

ei! i checked... the tub area from end to end measures 6-1/2 feet.

theOCdiva

April 26th, 2007, 06:08 AM

yan yung nasa picture na ni post ni Mitch?? doesn't look like 6 feet to me.. :P

Well, I'll fit in it! :lol: But not sure if my studio will have a tub; maybe just a shower.

bartman

April 26th, 2007, 06:34 AM

my inspection is in about an hour or so :banana: :banana: :banana:

Lili

April 26th, 2007, 06:42 AM

^ Can you take pictures during inspection? If you can, please do so. I hope there will be no hitches. :)

Dvorak

April 26th, 2007, 06:46 AM

this calls for a celebration!! :cheers:

my inspection is in about an hour or so :banana: :banana: :banana:

3cr

April 26th, 2007, 07:00 AM

Goodluck on your respective inspections Bart and Lauren! Must be really exciting! Celebration time na nga as Dvorak/Erwin mentioned. And as Lili mentioned don't forget to take and post some pics! :) :) :)

my inspection is in about an hour or so :banana: :banana: :banana:

theOCdiva

April 26th, 2007, 07:28 AM

my inspection is in about an hour or so :banana: :banana: :banana:

Good luck, Bart! Hope you'll have fun!:)

Mitch_Rivera

April 26th, 2007, 02:07 PM

hi laquacherra :wave:
waow :banana: i'm so excited for you ;)

hi icel :wave:
show it naman to us! ;) you can use imageshack.us. it's alot faster.

hi dvorak :wave:
was checking din with technical, it's standard naman daw... for pinoy sizes ;) si yao ming po di talaga kasha.

hi ocdiva :wave:
yeah shower lang...but that'll be ok. basta naman you live the lifestyle of serendra e...iba na yung feeling ;)

hi sir bart :wave:
OMG i'm so happy for you... :banana: tell us about it ha....sir make sure you've checked everything ha - the lighting, the faucets, finishes on the wall, flooring, windows, cabinets, countertops, i'd suggest to bring a measure na rin, just to make sure that it's the area that you got...even the tiles on your balcony, the fusebox, your electric meter, your water meter, even your gas meter...:)

Party na ito :banana:

ChicTown

April 26th, 2007, 08:04 PM

my inspection is in about an hour or so :banana: :banana: :banana:

:banana: :banana: :banana: More dancing bananas to you, Bart. Congrats and all the best! :banana: :banana:

lazybum

April 26th, 2007, 09:09 PM

Hi laquacherra! :wave:
Hi Dvorak & diz! :wave:
Hahahaha onga! :lol: alala ko pinagkasha nalang namin sa camera yung tub...kasi the last time we checked kasya naman ako e ;)

Hi raf! :wave:
Anytime ;) Yup, Dvorak's right, you have to buy & install your own water heater.

Hi Mitch, kumusta? I had the chance to see the Serendra development a couple of months ago. I am very impressed with the project's concept and the model units look great. Unfortunately, I was not able to ask your colleagues from Ayala Land the more important/relevant questions. When it comes to buying condos in the Phillipines, I must confessed that I am really clueless.

There are just so many variables involved and I don't know why developers don't disclose those important buying factors upfront. I think it is just a good business practice to have more transparency in your selling process - help the buyer what they are getting into. Don't you agree? In my own situation, I am planning to buy a unit (I plan to take an early retirement and settle in the Philippines) but I just can't move on it because there are a lot of uncertainties in my mind and I for one don't care so much for unpleasant surprises.

I know that the entire Serenda once completed, will include high rise buildings to be built at both ends. Are those also residential condominiums? When does construction starts? Any idea on price for a flat 2 BR unit? Also, can you let me know all the costs involved at closing (ie VAT, real estate tax, HOA fees, etc)? Bank financing options? Any information would be much appreciated. Thanks so much.

lazybum

April 27th, 2007, 12:15 AM

@Mitch, BTW, let me just say that the ALP people tasked with the punchlisting are doing a pretty good job :okay: they're stringent when it comes to quality control... keep up the good work ladies and gentlemen :)

Hello there! I'm new to this board and I hope you don't mind me butting in on this string...but I just want to congratulate you for being a new owner of a unit at Serendra. Personally, I think this project is awesome and has a lot of the things I myself, am looking for in a place I would like to live. I saw the project during my last visit in March and also saw the model units. I like the location and the mix-use concept is what is attracting me to this project. Unfortunately, I'm probably 2 years away from making a decision.

Are you satisfied with your buying experience at this project? Any pleasant, horror stories you would like to share? Much appreciated and have a great day!! :cheer:

laquacherra

April 27th, 2007, 03:54 AM

Hello there! I'm new to this board and I hope you don't mind me butting in on this string...but I just want to congratulate you for being a new owner of a unit at Serendra. Personally, I think this project is awesome and has a lot of the things I myself, am looking for in a place I would like to live. I saw the project during my last visit in March and also saw the model units. I like the location and the mix-use concept is what is attracting me to this project. Unfortunately, I'm probably 2 years away from making a decision.

Are you satisfied with your buying experience at this project? Any pleasant, horror stories you would like to share? Much appreciated and have a great day!! :cheer:

Hi lazybum! When I first checked out the model units a year and a half ago, I made kulet the property specialist to point out which features are part of the standard finishes. Lucky for me, my ALP property specialist was quite straight forward about it. It helped too that one of the model units had retained a lot of the standard finishes. So, before I made the decision to buy a unit I had a clear picture (up in my head) of what I was going to get. I think that it is very important not to be carried away by how the model units look.

My inspection went pretty smoothly. There were no unpleasant surprises. I was prepared to be disappointed (I've read & heard some horror stories from other people's experiences) but the fact is, IMO, it actually came out nicer than that picture I had in my head. And I'm quite satisfied with how ALP handles their quality control. I really feel that I made the right choice :)

lazybum

April 27th, 2007, 04:06 AM

Hi lazybum! ...so, before I made the decision to buy a unit I had a clear picture (up in my head) of what I was going to get. I think that it is very important not to be carried away by how the model units look.

...I really feel that I made the right choice :)

You made a terrific decision then! That is my impression too about Ayala Land - they are pretty straight forward. Thanks and congrats again!!:)

theOCdiva

April 27th, 2007, 07:02 AM

You made a terrific decision then! That is my impression too about Ayala Land - they are pretty straight forward. Thanks and congrats again!!:)

Hi Lazybum,
Of course, I'll be partial to Serendra, but, I'd like to suggest, make a checklist of your criteria in buying, order it by points, then use it when analyzing each condo of interest. Assign your points by what's important to you, say, location 10, price 5, etc.

Or, think of it this way, you'll have us cool neighbors to hang out with!
Good luck! :lol:

Mitch_Rivera

April 27th, 2007, 10:47 AM

Hi Mitch, kumusta? I had the chance to see the Serendra development a couple of months ago. I am very impressed with the project's concept and the model units look great. Unfortunately, I was not able to ask your colleagues from Ayala Land the more important/relevant questions. When it comes to buying condos in the Phillipines, I must confessed that I am really clueless.

There are just so many variables involved and I don't know why developers don't disclose those important buying factors upfront. I think it is just a good business practice to have more transparency in your selling process - help the buyer what they are getting into. Don't you agree? In my own situation, I am planning to buy a unit (I plan to take an early retirement and settle in the Philippines) but I just can't move on it because there are a lot of uncertainties in my mind and I for one don't care so much for unpleasant surprises.

I know that the entire Serenda once completed, will include high rise buildings to be built at both ends. Are those also residential condominiums? When does construction starts? Any idea on price for a flat 2 BR unit? Also, can you let me know all the costs involved at closing (ie VAT, real estate tax, HOA fees, etc)? Bank financing options? Any information would be much appreciated. Thanks so much.

Hey lazybum :wave: With transparency I so agree. I mean forgive me for being blunt but it depends pretty much on the person you talk to if they'll resort to straightforward facts, or plain old bola, or a good mix of both ;). Of course no agent or developer will ever tell you any major and important unpleasant fact about their project because naturally, they won't sell. If you can talk to someone who will give you all the facts and really help you clarify your uncertainties, well and good, but most of the time and I'm sure alot of buyers would agree, it's a gamble. You risk your money and your trust to someone selling something; it's just all about you trying to minimize that risk to ultimately get that benefit you're buying, and, to possibly avoid all unpleasant surprises that may come along the way. It's also important that the buyer insists on clarity of everything every step of the way, that this is what he expects on a given time rather than assume that the agent will take care of everything - then if the agent fails to deliver, the buyer gets disappointed to the agent and the developer he represent. But of course, we understand your predicament. It's not as if you're shopping for flip-flops once you buy property here, hello; you're shelling out millions of hard-earned money. For our part, we just have to make that worthwhile at the least.

For Serendra, yes that’s correct, as of our last meetings those will be residential towers. Construction start date we still don’t have definite dates, we still don’t have license to sell that’s why we’re restrained to release any info at the moment. Any info released at this time will be considered unofficial. We’ll let you know once the License is released. But for the mid-rise sections, a 2bedroom at Two Serendra would cost at around 7-9M and a 2bedroom at One Serendra would normally cost at around 10M-13M. That already includes the 12% VAT and usually the Other Charges that would cover your estimated real estate tax, transfer tax, doc stamps, issuance of title, sometimes electric meter deposit, sometimes the mortgage registration fee, etc. HOA’s are not included in the closing costs, you pay them when you have already accepted your unit. Estimates for Serendra’s HOA fees would range from Php85-95/sqm/mo, nothing is still final until a condo corp/HOA has been established. Closing costs that you have to prepare for the meantime would be the reservation fee (Php100,000 for One Serendra, Php50,000 for Two Serendra) which will be deductible off the price.

Bank financing options, you either have local banks or US banks depending whichever’s more convenient for you. If you’re a US citizen living there for more than 10yrs, you might encounter difficulties applying for a bank loan here since banks here charge 9.75%-12% interest p.a., they need a local co-borrower, original income docs, and another collateral (existing property here in the Phils.) if you’re loaning more than 70-80% of the price. No need for another collateral if you’re loaning within the maximum allowed, as long as the local bank is accredited with AyalaLand or with Serendra. It usually helps if you have good friends who are managers in the local bank you’re eyeing for a loan. With BPI you can even apply for loans online, then mail your originals to your nearest BERC/BPI office. From there your loan processing will take for about 3wks to a month and a half – as long as all docs are complete.

US financing, as long as you can apply for a home equity loan (or a 2nd mortgage) or an equity line of credit using your US home mortgage, and you have a FICO/Credit score of 740+, it’ll be easier for you. Most of our international buyers went for this option since at a time when their homes were appraised at a good value, they took out some of their home equity to pay for their Serendra unit here in cash – giving them good discounts plus an interest rate of 4-6% p.a. for a 30-year loan. Major US banks like Wells Fargo, Washington Mutual, Bank of America are common choices but you’re not limited to them. We can even recommend some lending institutions who can give you lower interest rates and longer terms – depending on your FICO score and your home equity value.

AyalaLand does in-house financing as well, just check if this option would suit well for you, but our interest rates are usually higher (from 16%-18% p.a.), you have to have atleast 640++ for a FICO/credit score, and income docs to mail.

Hope this helps. Let us know if you'll need more. ;)

Mitch_Rivera

April 27th, 2007, 11:33 AM

Hi lazybum! When I first checked out the model units a year and a half ago, I made kulet the property specialist to point out which features are part of the standard finishes. Lucky for me, my ALP property specialist was quite straight forward about it. It helped too that one of the model units had retained a lot of the standard finishes. So, before I made the decision to buy a unit I had a clear picture (up in my head) of what I was going to get. I think that it is very important not to be carried away by how the model units look.

My inspection went pretty smoothly. There were no unpleasant surprises. I was prepared to be disappointed (I've read & heard some horror stories from other people's experiences) but the fact is, IMO, it actually came out nicer than that picture I had in my head. And I'm quite satisfied with how ALP handles their quality control. I really feel that I made the right choice :)

Awww :hi: you're so sweet i love you na :hug:

lazybum

April 27th, 2007, 09:58 PM

Hi Lazybum,
Of course, I'll be partial to Serendra, but, I'd like to suggest, make a checklist of your criteria in buying, order it by points, then use it when analyzing each condo of interest. Assign your points by what's important to you, say, location 10, price 5, etc.

Or, think of it this way, you'll have us cool neighbors to hang out with!
Good luck! :lol:

Hi theOCdiva,

I can't imagine what you guys have gone through or are still going through while waiting for your units to be turned over. I hope that when it's my turn to buy, it will be as smooth as your experience. Oh well, maybe I just need to stock up on Maalox :nuts:

BTW - I would love to hang out with cool people like you guys and I can't wait to see you all around the Serendra or BGC 'hood - we'll party like it's 1965!! :carrot: :banana: :cucumber:

theOCdiva

April 28th, 2007, 03:23 AM

Hi theOCdiva,

I can't imagine what you guys have gone through or are still going through while waiting for your units to be turned over. I hope that when it's my turn to buy, it will be as smooth as your experience. Oh well, maybe I just need to stock up on Maalox :nuts:

BTW - I would love to hang out with cool people like you guys and I can't wait to see you all around the Serendra or BGC 'hood - we'll party like it's 1965!! :carrot: :banana: :cucumber:

Hey neighbor, well almost!

Actually, there was no doubt in my mind to go with Ayala name - they have track record, credibility - that was a MUST, bec. I knew the name. And the people are warm, like Mitch! Currently, a lot more developers have proven their perfomance and delivery. I strongly recommend BGC because it is master-planned with leading-edge technology in urbanization, one being the latest and greatest underground infrastructure support - electricity, cable, etc... And now the likelihood of it really being global.

And yes, the waiting is killing me :nuts:

crappypants

April 28th, 2007, 07:29 AM

Hey lazybum :wave: With transparency I so agree. I mean forgive me for being blunt but it depends pretty much on the person you talk to if they'll resort to straightforward facts, or plain old bola, or a good mix of both ;). Of course no agent or developer will ever tell you any major and important unpleasant fact about their project because naturally, they won't sell. If you can talk to someone who will give you all the facts and really help you clarify your uncertainties, well and good, but most of the time and I'm sure alot of buyers would agree, it's a gamble. You risk your money and your trust to someone selling something; it's just all about you trying to minimize that risk to ultimately get that benefit you're buying, and, to possibly avoid all unpleasant surprises that may come along the way. It's also important that the buyer insists on clarity of everything every step of the way, that this is what he expects on a given time rather than assume that the agent will take care of everything - then if the agent fails to deliver, the buyer gets disappointed to the agent and the developer he represent. But of course, we understand your predicament. It's not as if you're shopping for flip-flops once you buy property here, hello; you're shelling out millions of hard-earned money. For our part, we just have to make that worthwhile at the least.

For Serendra, yes that’s correct, as of our last meetings those will be residential towers. Construction start date we still don’t have definite dates, we still don’t have license to sell that’s why we’re restrained to release any info at the moment. Any info released at this time will be considered unofficial. We’ll let you know once the License is released. But for the mid-rise sections, a 2bedroom at Two Serendra would cost at around 7-9M and a 2bedroom at One Serendra would normally cost at around 10M-13M. That already includes the 12% VAT and usually the Other Charges that would cover your estimated real estate tax, transfer tax, doc stamps, issuance of title, sometimes electric meter deposit, sometimes the mortgage registration fee, etc. HOA’s are not included in the closing costs, you pay them when you have already accepted your unit. Estimates for Serendra’s HOA fees would range from Php85-95/sqm/mo, nothing is still final until a condo corp/HOA has been established. Closing costs that you have to prepare for the meantime would be the reservation fee (Php100,000 for One Serendra, Php50,000 for Two Serendra) which will be deductible off the price.

Bank financing options, you either have local banks or US banks depending whichever’s more convenient for you. If you’re a US citizen living there for more than 10yrs, you might encounter difficulties applying for a bank loan here since banks here charge 9.75%-12% interest p.a., they need a local co-borrower, original income docs, and another collateral (existing property here in the Phils.) if you’re loaning more than 70-80% of the price. No need for another collateral if you’re loaning within the maximum allowed, as long as the local bank is accredited with AyalaLand or with Serendra. It usually helps if you have good friends who are managers in the local bank you’re eyeing for a loan. With BPI you can even apply for loans online, then mail your originals to your nearest BERC/BPI office. From there your loan processing will take for about 3wks to a month and a half – as long as all docs are complete.

US financing, as long as you can apply for a home equity loan (or a 2nd mortgage) or an equity line of credit using your US home mortgage, and you have a FICO/Credit score of 740+, it’ll be easier for you. Most of our international buyers went for this option since at a time when their homes were appraised at a good value, they took out some of their home equity to pay for their Serendra unit here in cash – giving them good discounts plus an interest rate of 4-6% p.a. for a 30-year loan. Major US banks like Wells Fargo, Washington Mutual, Bank of America are common choices but you’re not limited to them. We can even recommend some lending institutions who can give you lower interest rates and longer terms – depending on your FICO score and your home equity value.

AyalaLand does in-house financing as well, just check if this option would suit well for you, but our interest rates are usually higher (from 16%-18% p.a.), you have to have atleast 640++ for a FICO/credit score, and income docs to mail.

Hope this helps. Let us know if you'll need more. ;)

how do can you tell if a project is about to go belly up? like a st francis or a metropolitan?

anone

April 28th, 2007, 08:15 AM

Inquirer Money / Top Stories
http://business.inquirer.net/money/topstories/view_article.php?article_id=62959
Central banks allays fears of a repeat of ’97 crisis

Real demand, not speculation, fuels property boom

By Michelle Remo
Inquirer

Posted date: April 28, 2007

MANILA, Philippines -- The central bank, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas (BSP), is allaying fears that the current real estate boom could be a prelude to another financial crisis similar to that experienced in 1997 by Southeast Asian countries, including the Philippines.
BSP Governor Amando Tetangco Jr. told reporters: “If one looks at the real property market now, the increase in lending to the sector is driven by actual demand. It is different from what happened in 1997, when the increase in property prices was due to speculative activities.”

Tetangco said that in 1997 many people were driven into buying real estate to make profits, on speculation that prices would go up.

The late-1990s drop in real estate prices led to losses by banks with heavy exposure in the property sector. The resulting weak demand for real estate left banks with large non-performing assets.

In today’s case, Tetangco said, the increase in demand for real estate is largely due to demand among families of overseas Filipino workers (OFWs).

“Their first priority is education of their children, and then investment in properties,” he noted. “The OFW market is now a major market as far as developers are concerned.”

The BSP earlier reported that the thrift banking industry’s investment and loan exposure in the real estate sector grew 26 percent to P76.06 billion at end-December 2006 from a year earlier.

Bankers say low interest rates encourage individuals and corporations alike to buy real estate for personal use or business expansion.

Corporations that have waited on the sidelines for the right time to expand have started pursuing their plans to take advantage of the record-low interest rates, bankers say. With INQUIRER.net

bartman

April 28th, 2007, 08:32 AM

realtor_manila

April 28th, 2007, 12:02 PM

realtor_manila

April 28th, 2007, 12:11 PM

how do can you tell if a project is about to go belly up? like a st francis or a metropolitan?

Hello!

It's a matter of starting with the simple things like:

1) After the project groundbreaking, there is no movement at the project site for several months.

2) If you're a buyer and you keep following up with the concerned developer/builder and you get a ton of excuses.... that's a sign.

3) You don't get regular updates from the developer/builder or agent, simply because there's nothing to talk about..... no construction updates.

4) The developer/builder does not fulfill its financial obligations (ie, payments) with their suppliers and contractors. (The industry is so small ...contractors/suppliers will talk about those developers who do not pay on time).

gasrock

April 28th, 2007, 02:39 PM

my inspection went pretty smoothly. a representative (michelle santos) helped me go through the unit and wrote everything down for them to correct. all just minor things that could be corrected in perhaps a day or two. turns out my unit does NOT have a veranda (and since i like to look at a glass half full insted of half empty), i figure it may be for the better since i got all that space added to my living room.

@victor - andito ka na ba?
I'm in Washington DC right now.......flew in from Sweden last night finishing up on some legal documents from Lena's estate. I will be here until Monday to attend my son's civics competition national championship before returning to the bay area for one day and then the long flight to Manila. See you soon.

3cr

April 29th, 2007, 01:39 AM

My inspection went pretty smoothly. There were no unpleasant surprises. I was prepared to be disappointed (I've read & heard some horror stories from other people's experiences) but the fact is, IMO, it actually came out nicer than that picture I had in my head. And I'm quite satisfied with how ALP handles their quality control. I really feel that I made the right choice :)
my inspection went pretty smoothly. a representative (michelle santos) helped me go through the unit and wrote everything down for them to correct. all just minor things that could be corrected in perhaps a day or two. turns out my unit does NOT have a veranda (and since i like to look at a glass half full insted of half empty), i figure it may be for the better since i got all that space added to my living room.

Glad both Lauren's and Bart's unit inspection went well. Now it's really time for some banana dance and celebration sa HighStreet/Shops at Serendra!!!! :banana: :banana: :banana:

Redplane500

April 29th, 2007, 07:32 PM

YOU MEAN DEVELOPERS CAN GET AWAY WITH THIS KIND OF STUFF? THIS IS VERY TROUBLING - YIKES!! IF I WANT TO GAMBLE, I WILL JUST BET MY MONEY AT THE CRAPS TABLE IN VEGAS. AREN'T THERE ANY CONSUMER LAWS TO PROTECT BUYERS?

Hello!

It's a matter of starting with the simple things like:

1) After the project groundbreaking, there is no movement at the project site for several months.

2) If you're a buyer and you keep following up with the concerned developer/builder and you get a ton of excuses.... that's a sign.

3) You don't get regular updates from the developer/builder or agent, simply because there's nothing to talk about..... no construction updates.

4) The developer/builder does not fulfill its financial obligations (ie, payments) with their suppliers and contractors. (The industry is so small ...contractors/suppliers will talk about those developers who do not pay on time).

laquacherra

April 30th, 2007, 04:10 AM

Glad both Lauren's and Bart's unit inspection went well. Now it's really time for some banana dance and celebration sa HighStreet/Shops at Serendra!!!! :banana: :banana: :banana:

Thanks! :)

You know what's stressful? Shopping for the furnishings! :lol: there are so many to choose from BUT they're not what I really like... kinda of like looking for that perfect little black dress :lol: :lol: BUT, I'm getting there... slowly but surely :)

gen1

April 30th, 2007, 04:39 AM

walang hot water.. you have to buy your own water heater and have it installed.. wala ding kasamang aircon..

would you know if they have provision for gas-fired water heaters? they run cheaper than electric heaters.

Dvorak

April 30th, 2007, 04:56 AM

wow!! so mga May 3 nandito ka na sa pinas!! wooohoooo!

I'm in Washington DC right now.......flew in from Sweden last night finishing up on some legal documents from Lena's estate. I will be here until Monday to attend my son's civics competition national championship before returning to the bay area for one day and then the long flight to Manila. See you soon.

Dvorak

April 30th, 2007, 05:00 AM

i haven't seen any gas fired water heaters @ the fort.. will this run on LPG?? i know there's metered LPG, but I don't know if you can install a gas fired water heater there..

also - does the units @ serendra have provisions for water heaters?? I mean are the pipes already ready?? or are you the one putting in the pipes for the water heater??

would you know if they have provision for gas-fired water heaters? they run cheaper than electric heaters.

3cr

April 30th, 2007, 05:05 AM

Thanks! :)
You know what's stressful? Shopping for the furnishings! :lol: there are so many to choose from BUT they're not what I really like... kinda of like looking for that perfect little black dress :lol: :lol: BUT, I'm getting there... slowly but surely :)
^^ Don't worry Lauren you will eventually get there. I'm sure you'll do just fine. Just do it at your own pace para stress free. Dapat exciting nga yan (shopping for furnishings) but I know what you mean since I'm also quite picky/anal when it comes to such things. For me shopping can be quite therapeutic though the stress really kicks in when I get my credit card bill at the end of the month kasi alam ko butas nanaman ang bulsa soon after! Hehehe... :) :) :)

gen1

April 30th, 2007, 05:20 AM

i haven't seen any gas fired water heaters @ the fort.. will this run on LPG?? i know there's metered LPG, but I don't know if you can install a gas fired water heater there..

also - does the units @ serendra have provisions for water heaters?? I mean are the pipes already ready?? or are you the one putting in the pipes for the water heater??

yup there are pipes. you only need to install the heater. i asked the agent that particular question. would love having a gas-fired water heater like they do in the US. with the high cost of water at BGC, heck it I think that it would be cost effective to use hot water on the dirty dishes :nuts:

gen1

April 30th, 2007, 05:31 AM

^^ Don't worry Lauren you will eventually get there. I'm sure you'll do just fine. Just do it at your own pace para stress free. Dapat exciting nga yan (shopping for furnishings) but I know what you mean since I'm also quite picky/anal when it comes to such things. For me shopping can be quite therapeutic though the stress really kicks in when I get my credit card bill at the end of the month kasi alam ko butas nanaman ang bulsa soon after! Hehehe... :) :) :)

I think what would be more nerve wracking is deciding what to do first - pick out the furniture and then match the unit paint scheme to it or start with the unit's paint scheme and THEN buy the furniture.

the entire chicken and the egg thing could drive you nuts, he, he.

But one thing is for sure, I'll be repainting my unit before moving in. the paint combination in the pictures mitch posted are truly insipid :lol:

Oh yeah, for the peeps planning to rent out their units, here's a tip. the expat teachers at ISM are salivating over Serendra. Single teachers typically get PhP50K/month for housing allowance.

bartman

April 30th, 2007, 12:24 PM

ChicTown

April 30th, 2007, 05:58 PM

[Quote]=Dvorak;12913442]i haven't seen any gas fired water heaters @ the fort.. will this run on LPG?? i know there's metered LPG, but I don't know if you can install a gas fired water heater there..

[QUOTE]If the LPG pipe can be extended to where the water heater will be located, then gas fired water heater can be used. However, because of a constant lit pilot light, the condo management may not allow for such a system. Savings-wise, is it that significant to consider gas over electricity? How hot would the water temp. be set? Imo, lukewarm water is enough for dishwashing, as well as for showering. For washing clothes, you can buy a machine with its own built-in water heater. Hope this helps. Regards!

realtor_manila

May 1st, 2007, 02:26 AM

gen1

May 1st, 2007, 05:23 AM

YOU MEAN DEVELOPERS CAN GET AWAY WITH THIS KIND OF STUFF? THIS IS VERY TROUBLING - YIKES!! IF I WANT TO GAMBLE, I WILL JUST BET MY MONEY AT THE CRAPS TABLE IN VEGAS. AREN'T THERE ANY CONSUMER LAWS TO PROTECT BUYERS?

Just deal with the reputable developers/builders - those who have very good track records. No headaches.

Honestly, the Philippine consumer laws are not enough to protect the buyers.

dealing with reputable builders is not enough assurance that the unit will be delivered to you on schedule, if at all.

Remember DMConsunji? they're a highly respected contractor who segued into condo development. they delivered their building at pioneer street in mandaluyong (where Globe Telecoms have their corporate HQ) a year late and only after Globe started preparing to sue. I don't think they completed their Dansalan Condo development as per their brochure at all

I guess the best option for those who don't want the risk is to not to buy at the pre-selling stage. Only buy when the condo is ready for occupancy. Of course it would generally be more expensive by then because the lower risk would have been factored in.

realtor_manila

May 1st, 2007, 08:40 AM

dealing with reputable builders is not enough assurance that the unit will be delivered to you on schedule, if at all.

Remember DMConsunji? they're a highly respected contractor who segued into condo development. they delivered their building at pioneer street in mandaluyong (where Globe Telecoms have their corporate HQ) a year late and only after Globe started preparing to sue. I don't think they completed their Dansalan Condo development as per their brochure at all

I guess the best option for those who don't want the risk is to not to buy at the pre-selling stage. Only buy when the condo is ready for occupancy. Of course it would generally be more expensive by then because the lower risk would have been factored in.

Developers with good track records (in terms of project delivery dates): Ayala Land, Community Innovations, Inc. , Robinson's Land, Cityland, Century Properties/Meridien Properties. (Project Manager) G&W Architects' Build-To-Own (BTO) projects. So buying pre-selling projects with these groups is safe.

You're right - if you're risk-averse, then go for ready-for-occupancy (RFO) condos.

stlito

May 2nd, 2007, 02:35 AM

I'm in Washington DC right now.......flew in from Sweden last night finishing up on some legal documents from Lena's estate. I will be here until Monday to attend my son's civics competition national championship before returning to the bay area for one day and then the long flight to Manila. See you soon.

Good luck, Pareng Vic! I'll see when I see you. Hopefully, I can make it there by the end of the month, just in time before you head back home.

gasrock

May 2nd, 2007, 11:11 PM

wow!! so mga May 3 nandito ka na sa pinas!! wooohoooo!
Mista Erwin naman.......May 2 ang alis ko dito pero May 4 na ang dating ko diyan........has something to do with advanced physics that I don't really understand talking about international date lines and greenwich time meridian and the gravity and rotation of the earth. All I know is this never happened before superman forced the earth's rotation to spin backwards in order to go back in time to save Lois Lane.........maybe he broke something.

Good luck, Pareng Vic! I'll see when I see you. Hopefully, I can make it there by the end of the month, just in time before you head back home.
Siyempre job comes first......but just the same try mo lang to make it.

laquacherra

May 3rd, 2007, 02:48 AM

my inspection went pretty smoothly. a representative (michelle santos) helped me go through the unit and wrote everything down for them to correct. all just minor things that could be corrected in perhaps a day or two.

i expected mine to take about a week or so but it's been 2 weeks and i've just been told that it could take til end of this month... this month has barely began so that's another 4 weeks. wow, was i shocked to hear that one! maybe the contractors did more damage in the process of rectifying all those minor stuff :dunno:

stlito

May 3rd, 2007, 03:39 AM

Dvorak

May 3rd, 2007, 04:45 AM

theOCdiva

May 3rd, 2007, 05:38 AM

anone

May 3rd, 2007, 07:40 AM

Inquirer Money / Breaking News
http://business.inquirer.net/money/topstories/view_article.php?article_id=63795
Trump eyes partnership with BCDA

By Ronnel Domingo
Inquirer

Posted date: May 03, 2007

MANILA, Philippines -- More high rollers in real estate are looking at real estate held by the government’s Bases Conversion Development Authority (BCDA), with exploratory talks underway with flamboyant property tycoon Donald Trump on possible joint ventures, BCDA president Narciso Abaya said.
Abaya said in a telephone interview that the discussions with Trump were preliminary, details of which he was not at liberty to give.

An Inquirer source said executives of Trump Organization, which includes hotel and casino operator Trump Entertainment, made a presentation through a video conference with BCDA officials a week ago.

After overcoming bankruptcy from previous investments, Trump owns more than 18 million square feet of prime Manhattan real estate.

Abaya said a possible stumbling block to a partnership was that the BCDA, which oversees development of former military lands, is required to hold competitive biddings before it can go into deals with the private sector.

“BCDA is not allowed to go directly in a partnership,” he said. “This is the same issue that is holding back [BCDA] from signing a deal with the Shanghai Shimao group.”

The proposed deal with the Shimao group, one of China’s top real estate developers, involves a $2-$4 billion project to erect a high-end hotel and mixed-use buildings in the Bonifacio Global City, near the Makati business district, for which a memorandum of understanding was signed in March.

The BCDA says the memorandum of understanding provides for detailed studies on future joint development projects that would make the Bonifacio Global City a key international business district.

The deal proper was supposed to have been signed during President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo’s visit to China last month.

Abaya said he and other BCDA officials made a concurrent trip to China to discuss how to address the requirement for a competitive bidding. “This is one of the kinks we are trying to iron out before any contract can be signed with the Shimao group,” he said.

When asked whether the same issue would be a hurdle for a possible partnership with the Trump Organization, Abaya said, “Yes.” With INQUIRER.net

Lili

May 3rd, 2007, 07:51 AM

^ Hmmm... I would like to discuss the implications of what is stated there in that article in the Economy and Development thread.

anone

May 3rd, 2007, 08:18 AM

^^^Imagine the good impact on the Serendra and to other condominiums in BGC if all those proposed projects will push thru.

Lili

May 3rd, 2007, 09:16 AM

^ Yeah, but as the government official Abaya knows, there are major hurdles before they can engage in "partnerships" with these foreign entities. These are constitutional and procedural hurdles to ensure fairness in awarding contracts and projects. I don't want to be shortsighted about it just for the sake of pushing developmental projects while going around legal requirements. By entering into memorandum of understanding with these entities, they are only giving them undue advantage and "inside information" on how to go around the competitive bidding process, the proposals of which usually should be kept under seal before an award is made. Something is amiss in the process of giving these awards. At some point, it will be to the detriment of our own local developers, contractors and investors.

Anyway, as I said, this topic is better discussed in the Economy and Development thread.

bartman

May 3rd, 2007, 09:43 AM

i expected mine to take about a week or so but it's been 2 weeks and i've just been told that it could take til end of this month... this month has barely began so that's another 4 weeks. wow, was i shocked to hear that one! maybe the contractors did more damage in the process of rectifying all those minor stuff :dunno:

one thing that didn't work during my inspection was the ceiling light in the bedroom. it turns out it's not just a bad bulb; they're having to recheck the electricals, causing them to take down the ceiling. estimated completion of this endeavor is 4 days. everything else on my punchlist has been taken care of.

laquacherra

May 4th, 2007, 02:20 AM

Hi Lauren,
Can't you go in to check your unit and find out details? :? I would.. ciao, bella!

nah, it's ok... i haven't signed the final acceptance anyways :)

gen1

May 4th, 2007, 04:02 AM

one thing that didn't work during my inspection was the ceiling light in the bedroom. it turns out it's not just a bad bulb; they're having to recheck the electricals, causing them to take down the ceiling. estimated completion of this endeavor is 4 days. everything else on my punchlist has been taken care of.

that's surprising since if they used electrical conduits there shouldn't have been any reason to dismantle the entire ceiling (I suppose this will either be the kitchen or bath areas since the other rooms have concrete ceilings. in which case 4 days wouldn't be enough:) )

so i guess during the inspection of my unit in december I need to put on my building-inspector-from-hell hat to check on the common mistakes of local skilled workers. this includes :

1. bringing an insulation tester to check the wires for insulation integrity.
2. having them open the panelboard to see it they sized the wires correctly.
3. open a random convenience outlet to see if they put in a ground wire.
4. bringing my trusty marble to check if the bathroom tiles are sloped to course waste water to the drain (a common mistake of local journeymen).
5. using the same marble to check if the countertops are sloped correctly (i wouldn't want slip all over the kitchen when I cook. yup the wife wears the pants)
6. bringing my carpenter's level in case my trusty marble fails me :lol:
7. bringing my lucky 5 peso coin to tap the floor tiles. if it sounds hollow, it's substandard (another common mistake of the local masons)
8. bringing sheets of bond paper to check the window gaskets. Darn, i wouldn't want to have all that airconditioned air going out my window and inflating my elec bill. I also wouldn't want noise to filter through my windows.
9. and finally bringing an el cheapo $3 water pressure tester just to spite them :nuts: .

ProjM

May 4th, 2007, 05:52 AM

that's surprising since if they used electrical conduits there shouldn't have been any reason to dismantle the entire ceiling (I suppose this will either be the kitchen or bath areas since the other rooms have concrete ceilings. in which case 4 days wouldn't be enough:) )

so i guess during the inspection of my unit in december I need to put on my building-inspector-from-hell hat to check on the common mistakes of local skilled workers. this includes :
:nuts: .

IMO, I wouldn’t hold the “skilled workers” responsible for all of these possible defects you mentioned, on the account that they earn merely a few pesos a day...In fact, I’d blame the Ayala Land Incorporation (contractors, engineers, designers, quality control, etc) for all the deficiencies that were encountered during the walkthrough. Delivering a wishy-washy product is not acceptable, period! :ohno:

On a lighter note, I want to thank Bartman and Laquacherra for posting their frustrations, in part providing Serendra owners a heads-up on what to look for during the inspection.:)

-TC-

May 4th, 2007, 08:18 AM

laquacherra

May 4th, 2007, 09:55 AM

^^ i agree. and this is when i'm gonna quote Metropolitanboy/Robbie... "patience... patience... patience"

gridloc

May 4th, 2007, 03:09 PM

attended the launch of The Aston of Two Serendra yesterday. They're pre-selling na the one that is across Serendra complex, they are starting with a condo named 'The Aston,' the first high rise of four buildings to be made. The others are named 'The Banyan,' 'The Red Oak,' and 'The Sequoia.' These are all high rises with the first development, a 32 storey condo. The main feature here would be the massive lagoon pool and their 50meter lap pool. try to post pics of the scale model soon

ProjM

May 4th, 2007, 06:47 PM

These problems are not exclusive to Ayala projects because most if not all the projects that have been newly turned-over to their first owners will have some kind of defect here and there... both major and minor ones. If these defects can be corrected then that's great news already.

^^ You know what’s even greater news is having defects that are not worth mentioning during the inspection, such as wall switch plate screws not aligned, commode seats wobbly…etc. I have no doubt that Ayala will correct their incompetence but as a resident outside of ‘Pinas, time is of the essence and expediency matters...:)
-

gen1

May 5th, 2007, 12:57 AM

all brand new condo units comes with warranty... so those small stuff.. you can just call your maintenance and they'll fix it for you. It's just the major ones that you need to have fix before you moved in (like bathroom tiles, walls, windows, cabinets, etc.)

before you sign the unit acceptance form, up to 10% of the moneys payable to the contractor is retained by ayala land. 10% is a heck of a motivation for the contractor to finish the punchlist immediately.

with your acceptance of the unit the contractor can collect this 10% and just post a bond to cover the warranty period. it will thus take you longer to have defects corrected during the warranty period because (1) there is no monetary motivation to do it quickly and (2) they can (and probably will) claim the damage was caused after the turnover and by the home owner.

i think it would will be better and less of a hassle to conduct a thorough pre-acceptance inspection than to claim defects during the warranty period for condos here.

lazybum

May 5th, 2007, 02:27 AM

^^ i agree. and this is when i'm gonna quote Metropolitanboy/Robbie... "patience... patience... patience"

Hi Laquachera, you seem to have a nonchalant attitude about all these...and maybe that is the right attitude. You must be another Mother Theresa in the making.. :angel1: Take care and regards.

lazybum

May 5th, 2007, 02:29 AM

^^ You know what’s even greater news is having defects that are not worth mentioning during the inspection, such as wall switch plate screws not aligned, commode seats wobbly…etc. I have no doubt that Ayala will correct their incompetence but as a resident outside of ‘Pinas, time is of the essence and expediency matters...:)
-

...and I had the impression that Ayala is topnotch company...what a ripoff. :ohno:

bartman

May 5th, 2007, 10:10 AM

IMO, I wouldn’t hold the “skilled workers” responsible for all of these possible defects you mentioned, on the account that they earn merely a few pesos a day...In fact, I’d blame the Ayala Land Incorporation (contractors, engineers, designers, quality control, etc) for all the deficiencies that were encountered during the walkthrough. Delivering a wishy-washy product is not acceptable, period! :ohno:

On a lighter note, I want to thank Bartman and Laquacherra for posting their frustrations, in part providing Serendra owners a heads-up on what to look for during the inspection.:)

These problems are not exclusive to Ayala projects because most if not all the projects that have been newly turned-over to their first owners will have some kind of defect here and there... both major and minor ones. If these defects can be corrected then that's great news already.

hey, i never said i was frustrated :)
i included such things in planning my trip, inspection, acceptance, household goods shipment arrival, etc.
it's all good !

laquacherra

May 5th, 2007, 10:25 AM

Hi Laquachera, you seem to have a nonchalant attitude about all these...and maybe that is the right attitude. You must be another Mother Theresa in the making.. :angel1: Take care and regards.

haha! not really. i just don't get all riled up over little things. and just to set the record straight, i got word that it will be done before the 15th :colgate:

3cr

May 5th, 2007, 08:47 PM

April 22, 2007
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i37/llaurenversion3/bgc4.jpg
April 22, 2007
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i37/llaurenversion3/bgc2.jpg
^^ Very nice pics Lauren. Ang ganda and will only get even better as the City/CBD develops/matures. Btw are these the views outside your unit?

lazybum

May 6th, 2007, 04:39 AM

haha! not really. i just don't get all riled up over little things. and just to set the record straight, i got word that it will be done before the 15th :colgate:

That is good news!! But if I may suggest, you should have a Plan B...if by the 15th the punchlist is still not complete...3CR, Dvorak, and myself will help you complete your unit...we will work for free...so long as the food is good!! just kidding. Regards.

lazybum

May 6th, 2007, 04:42 AM

That is good news!! But if I may suggest, you should have a Plan B...if by the 15th the punchlist is still not complete...3CR, Dvorak, and myself will help you complete your unit...we will work for free...so long as the food is good!! just kidding. Regards.

P.S. Good pictures - enjoy your new home...

Sinjin P.

May 6th, 2007, 12:18 PM

Ang ganda ng mga photos mo Ms. Lauren, parang fake, parang wala sa Pinas, parang scale model lang. :okay:

ipuka2004

May 6th, 2007, 02:32 PM

[QUOTE=Mitch_Rivera;12808439]hi ipuka 2004 :wave:

We have already diverted jeepney traffic to pass through Market!Market! and to avoid the rotunda passing 26th ave. If we've met atleast an 88% construction milestone for the whole of BGC (if the High street has been occupied atleast 75% and Serendra has turned over atleast Section D), we are most likely to divert jeepney traffic to avoid the highly urbanized areas (High Street and Serendra).

Are you saying that Jeepneys will no longer be allowed on the street between Market and Serendra?

laquacherra

May 7th, 2007, 02:57 AM

^^ Very nice pics Lauren. Ang ganda and will only get even better as the City/CBD develops/matures. Btw are these the views outside your unit?

P.S. Good pictures - enjoy your new home...

yup! thanks! :)

Ang ganda ng mga photos mo Ms. Lauren, parang fake, parang wala sa Pinas, parang scale model lang. :okay:

yeah, actually, somehow feel ko like i'm outside Pinas when i'm in BGC and Rockwell Center :okay:

laquacherra

May 7th, 2007, 03:05 AM

Graciela

May 7th, 2007, 05:56 AM

haha! actually i'm now in Plan J :lol: just kidding. Nah, but just like Bartman, i've made allowances for such delays in my planning.

Hi Lauren! How long is the delay now? Is it a big reconstruction job? The turnover of my unit is suppose to be the last quarter of this year, so, I planned to move back to Manila in November. I just want to know how many months i will need to rent a place before I can move into my unit.
Thank you so much for letting us know of your experiences. We are learning a lot from you & Bartman!!:cheer:

gen1

May 8th, 2007, 02:28 AM

I looked at the brochures they gave out and ayala promised to turnover Section A in the 2Q of 2007. So technically they have until june 30 to turn it over.

Delivery of my unit is 4Q 2007 and yup, I also hope they can turn it over by november. Would be great to have a party in december in what is currently THE COOLEST manila address :banana:

laquacherra

May 8th, 2007, 03:32 AM

^^ the brochures i have from my condo-hunting days, back in 2005, say that target turnover for section A is first quarter 2007. but, give or take a month or two, it's still pretty much on target IMO :)

Hi Lauren! How long is the delay now? Is it a big reconstruction job? The turnover of my unit is suppose to be the last quarter of this year, so, I planned to move back to Manila in November. I just want to know how many months i will need to rent a place before I can move into my unit.
Thank you so much for letting us know of your experiences. We are learning a lot from you & Bartman!!:cheer:

theOCdiva

May 8th, 2007, 06:50 AM

yup! thanks! :)

yeah, actually, somehow feel ko like i'm outside Pinas when i'm in BGC and Rockwell Center :okay:

So surreal, Lauren! Show us more, thanks. :)

bustero

May 8th, 2007, 07:28 AM

interesting

Dvorak

May 8th, 2007, 10:49 AM

tapos na daw ang unit ni Bartman.. bukas na daw ang acceptance nang unit.. it's move in time!!!

Graciela

May 8th, 2007, 08:47 PM

tapos na daw ang unit ni Bartman.. bukas na daw ang acceptance nang unit.. it's move in time!!!

Well done Bartman!!! I'm sooo happy for you. I'm looking forward for your posts here regarding your unit. Please show us some pictures!!!:cheer: :banana:

realtor_manila

May 8th, 2007, 11:30 PM

Last Saturday, I had the privilege of seeing the building interiors including some of the amenities and open spaces at the One Serendra - Section A at the Bonifacio Global City!

What I've noticed are the wide open spaces and the abundance of greenery within the development. For the record, Ayala Land, Inc. has allocated 65% of the total lot area of the entire Serendra development to these open spaces.

The covered walkway
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i143/cynchyap/One%20Serendra_011707/Ser_1958.jpg

The children's play area
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i143/cynchyap/One%20Serendra_011707/Ser_1968.jpg

The Garden Unit
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i143/cynchyap/One%20Serendra_011707/Ser_1964.jpg

More photos of the open spaces and amenities are posted here: http://www.realestatemovers.com/Serendra_amenities.htm

Curious on how a 1-BR at One Serendra-Section A looks like? This particular unit is facing Market! Market! Check this out:

http://www.realestatemovers.com/One%20Serendra_7th_Butch.htm
(Note: A cabinet under the kitchen sink was installed; furniture, lighting fixtures are added.)

P.S. One thing I noticed with the floor to ceiling height of the One Serendra condo units - they are really high! Honestly, the 76 sqm 1-BR unit looks very spacious inside.

On the other hand, a very efficient airconditioning system (split-type aircon) is needed for this type of development.

realtor_manila

May 9th, 2007, 12:06 AM

This should read: One Serendra --Section D (Thanks to Lauren!)

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i143/cynchyap/One%20Serendra_011707/IMG_1956.jpg

The greenery/landscaping. Take note that trees are being planted in this area. (Trees are expensive!) . I can already imagine how this area would look like. Nice!
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i143/cynchyap/One%20Serendra_011707/IMG_1961.jpg

realtor_manila

May 9th, 2007, 12:15 AM

Took these pictures last May 5, 2007. I took these pictures at one of the upper floor One Serendra units (just above Duo's and Conti's).

The water fountain at Shops at Serendra
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i143/cynchyap/One%20Serendra_011707/IMG_1944.jpg

Another water feature at Shops at Serendra
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i143/cynchyap/One%20Serendra_011707/IMG_1945.jpg

j.r.

May 9th, 2007, 12:44 AM

hay kung me pera lang ako... i'm sure serendra is every condo buyer's ultimate fantasy!! congrats to those living the dream he he!!! :rock: :rock: :rock:

laquacherra

May 9th, 2007, 02:54 AM

One Serendra - Section B
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i143/cynchyap/One%20Serendra_011707/IMG_1956.jpg

The greenery/landscaping. Take note that trees are being planted in this area. (Trees are expensive!) . I can already imagine how this area would look like. Nice!
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i143/cynchyap/One%20Serendra_011707/IMG_1961.jpg

Hi, Cynch! that building under construction in the picture above is One Serendra Section D already. Sections B & C, both facing Market! Market!, are the finished structures on the righthand side of the 2nd picture above

realtor_manila

May 9th, 2007, 05:45 AM

Hi, Cynch! that building under construction in the picture above is One Serendra Section D already. Sections B & C, both facing Market! Market!, are the finished structures on the righthand side of the 2nd picture above

Grabe! I think I got confused already - because the development is sprawling! I think I'll get lost! ha ha ha! Thanks!

theOCdiva

May 9th, 2007, 06:12 AM

Grabe! I think I got confused already - because the development is sprawling! I think I'll get lost! ha ha ha! Thanks!

Hi Cynch!

Thanks a lot for the wonderful pics! I visited your web-site, too. Really, really appreciate you being there for me and everyone else. What would I do without you! I'd be lost, too!:nuts:

asraz

May 9th, 2007, 07:05 AM

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/3492/theastonattwoserendrarq5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I found this video in YouTube regarding Aston in Two Serendra. The URL is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeY3YSnbros

tyronne

May 9th, 2007, 06:53 PM

^^Very nice! I just wish meron ding tennis courts ang Serendra. As if naman magagamit ko haha! Pero kahit may makita lang ako sa mga pictures, masaya na ako hehe:lol:

Edmundtanso

May 9th, 2007, 09:43 PM

those are mature tress, i wonder where they got those tress from. i hope it's from a nursery and not from the forests or else i am going to say something.

tyronne

May 9th, 2007, 10:52 PM

Sorry, OT pero I see Hanjin HQ and it's glassy:okay:

tafftrader

May 9th, 2007, 11:54 PM

Interesting to see a one-bed special up for rent at 75k/month. Just as I thought, rentals will be comparable to rockwell.

shufatid

May 10th, 2007, 02:39 AM

Hi Cynch!

Thanks a lot for the wonderful pics! I visited your web-site, too. Really, really appreciate you being there for me and everyone else. What would I do without you! I'd be lost, too!:nuts:

I echo this statement, Cynch! You are a gem! Thanks for always updating us with words and with photos!

realtor_manila

May 10th, 2007, 04:52 AM

those are mature tress, i wonder where they got those tress from. i hope it's from a nursery and not from the forests or else i am going to say something.

Hello Edmund!

Those trees definitely came from a tree nursery - not from the forests. I'm also very sensitive when it comes to those issues regarding the environment. Ayala Land is sensitive when it comes to these matters --so no need to worry.

bartman

May 11th, 2007, 04:52 AM

a bit of information regarding ayala and their contractor's responsiveness...

i accepted my unit last wednesday. yesterday, i found that the toilet seat needs to be replaced. today (friday) i went to the admin office to inform them and to ask whom i should talk to about replacing the seat. the contractor rep was there and identified herself. the seat will be replaced today.

so looks like no worries for such things popping up. :)

Dvorak

May 11th, 2007, 04:58 AM

usually you can have these small things changed w/in a year after acceptance.. parang warranty ba..

a bit of information regarding ayala and their contractor's responsiveness...

i accepted my unit last wednesday. yesterday, i found that the toilet seat needs to be replaced. today (friday) i went to the admin office to inform them and to ask whom i should talk to about replacing the seat. the contractor rep was there and identified herself. the seat will be replaced today.

so looks like no worries for such things popping up. :)

Edmundtanso

May 11th, 2007, 05:13 AM

Hello Edmund!

Those trees definitely came from a tree nursery - not from the forests. I'm also very sensitive when it comes to those issues regarding the environment. Ayala Land is sensitive when it comes to these matters --so no need to worry.

that's nice to hear, i really hope so.

gen1

May 11th, 2007, 11:49 AM

that's good news !

does the stove/oven area in your unit have provision for piped in gas? The pictures in cynch's webpage seem to show an electrical range outlet but I counldn't make out a gas outlet.

I really want a nice ariston gas range for my unit (can't do a decent stir-fry without a huge friggin' fire under the wok :) )

a bit of information regarding ayala and their contractor's responsiveness...

i accepted my unit last wednesday. yesterday, i found that the toilet seat needs to be replaced. today (friday) i went to the admin office to inform them and to ask whom i should talk to about replacing the seat. the contractor rep was there and identified herself. the seat will be replaced today.

so looks like no worries for such things popping up. :)

gen1

May 11th, 2007, 12:10 PM

you're really lucky to have been able to get a section A unit in 2005. when I looked at the serendra model units in mid December of 2004 and the salesperson told me that the section A units have been sold out. At that time they still gave out the beautiful "Views from Serendra" booklet and they even gave me the pricelist for all units for section A to C of District I to help me decide on what unit to get. The print out was dated "as of Sept 24 2004" and did say that the section A units of District I are to be turned over in 2Q of 2007. Mali siguro iyung printout :)

The high street views from your unit are fantastic ! the value of your unit should appreciate rapidly.

^^ the brochures i have from my condo-hunting days, back in 2005, say that target turnover for section A is first quarter 2007. but, give or take a month or two, it's still pretty much on target IMO :)

realtor_manila

May 11th, 2007, 03:12 PM

gridloc

May 11th, 2007, 03:27 PM

Hi guys! I was at the launching of The Aston of Two Serendra some two weeks ago, got some pictures of the scale model:

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/glennbp/IMG_0046.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/glennbp/IMG_0047.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/glennbp/IMG_0049.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/glennbp/IMG_0050.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/glennbp/IMG_0051.jpg

gridloc

May 11th, 2007, 03:29 PM

and more...

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/glennbp/IMG_0053.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/glennbp/IMG_0055.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/glennbp/IMG_0056.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/glennbp/IMG_0057.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/glennbp/IMG_0058.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/glennbp/IMG_0060.jpg

-TC-

May 11th, 2007, 04:47 PM

Thanks for the pics @gridloc!

So this is how the overhead pedestrian walkway will look like. Cool modern radical design! :okay:

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/glennbp/IMG_0057.jpg

tyronne

May 11th, 2007, 08:21 PM

I think someone's drunk and still decided to drive. Sumampa na siya sa island. LOL!:lol:

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/glennbp/IMG_0053.jpg

Anyway, thanks for the pix. How tall (floors?) do you think the tallest among the 3 highrises would be? Thanks.

3cr

May 11th, 2007, 10:08 PM

Hehehe...OO nga no sumampa sa island! :lol: :lol: :lol:

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/glennbp/IMG_0053.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/glennbp/IMG_0055.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/glennbp/IMG_0056.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/glennbp/IMG_0057.jpg

^^ Thanks for sharing. Ang ganda so very nice talaga. Hopefully it comes to fruition as envisioned.
Serendra is one of many examples why BGC is really turning out to be a world class community! :okay: :okay: :okay:

crappypants

May 11th, 2007, 10:51 PM

he he well they have to copy real life.

looks so pretty and tidy.

laquacherra

May 12th, 2007, 03:18 AM

Thanks for the pics @gridloc!

So this is how the overhead pedestrian walkway will look like. Cool modern radical design! :okay:

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/glennbp/IMG_0057.jpg

it looks like a longer version of one of the covered walkways that crosses Bonifacio High Street :okay:

ipuka2004

May 12th, 2007, 03:23 AM

Will the jeepneys be NOT allowed to pass through the street between Market and Serendra? Forgot the name of the street.

laquacherra

May 12th, 2007, 03:28 AM

^^ that would be McKinley Parkway

gen1

May 12th, 2007, 04:37 AM

Will the jeepneys be NOT allowed to pass through the street between Market and Serendra? Forgot the name of the street.

Would be great if they ban gas and diesel powered jeepneys from FB and just allow natural gas fueled jeepneys. Or better yet, electric powered ikot jeepneys, ultra quiet and clean :)

Edmundtanso

May 12th, 2007, 06:00 AM

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/glennbp/IMG_0051.jpg[/QUOTE] http://edmundtanso.smugmug.com/photos/3507006-M.jpg

what happened to the design? i like the original design better....too bad it became just a typical ordinaru condo =(

thomasian

May 12th, 2007, 12:43 PM

So realistic! Dapat may mga car accidents na rin sa mga scale model, tapos meron ding tao sa street level na mukhang nalaglag mula sa balcony ng unit nya, o diba mas realistic yun! Pwede rin yung kunwari ay lumindol tapos yung itsura ng condo eh yung gumuho dahil sa lindol, true to life na talaga pag ganun. :D

I think someone's drunk and still decided to drive. Sumampa na siya sa island. LOL!:lol:

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/glennbp/IMG_0053.jpg

Anyway, thanks for the pix. How tall (floors?) do you think the tallest among the 3 highrises would be? Thanks.

That bridge is the winner of the Serendra Bridge design competition. It's a work of Lor Calma.

Thanks for the pics @gridloc!

So this is how the overhead pedestrian walkway will look like. Cool modern radical design!

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/glennbp/IMG_0057.jpg

IsaRic

May 13th, 2007, 02:22 AM

the design i think is alright... 6/10...lol it blends with serendra... but i think it couldve been better.

typhoon™

May 13th, 2007, 07:22 AM

Hello to everyone, I'm new to this forum. I find the design of the Aston fine, it's not really going to be a landmark by itself like let's say St. Francis Shangri-La Place (which would be towering in the Ortigas area come 2009). However, the project taken together as a whole (including the low-rise, mi-drise & high-rise sections of the One Serendra & two Serendra) is very appealing to the eyes and the senses. IMHO, Serendra has just set the standards for the next generation of what condominium communities should be.

Cropduster

May 13th, 2007, 01:48 PM

I'm sure I will get flamed for this but...

While I think the location of Serendra, the amenities and open spaces are all fantastic I can't help but think the actual exterior of the buildings look cheap and crowded, like a social housing project when in fact it a prime development. I am talking about the low to mid rise areas here, I think the high rise looks nice.

I don't mean to offend anyone here I know it will be a great place to live and a good investment.

A_Q

May 13th, 2007, 06:07 PM

Hello Everyone!

Maybe someone here will be able to answer my question that I directed to One Serendra and their customer service but never got a response.

I was planning what I was going to do for my next trip to the Philippines (when I actually go with my parents to accept the condo they bought) and I was wondering about Cable TV services. I sent an e-mail to SkyCable and this is what they replied:

Please be advised that One Serendra, Bonifacio Global City Taguig is not
yet in our list of serviceable areas for cable tv service. Kindly
coordinate with the building/condominium administrator as to which cable
company services the area.

Regarding Prepaid subscription, we regret to inform your that it is not yet
available in Taguig.

Thanks,
___________________
Telesales Group
Sales Division
SkyCable Central CATV, Inc.

Again, I e-mailed One Serendra with no reply. As you saw in the e-mail, I informed about SkyCable prepaid services but no luck. Hope someone can help me :) THANKS!

shufatid

May 13th, 2007, 06:49 PM

Don't worry Cropduster, except for a few, people in this forum are very respectful of others' opinions, so I'm almost sure you won't get flamed for stating yours.

Funny how I was at a Pinoy gathering in Singapore and a group of Pinoy yuppies talked about Serendra. Some of their comments were:

"I can't wait to move back to the Philippines and live in Serendra.. it's beautiful!"

"It's so expensive, but the exterior looks cheap!"

"If I only had the money, I would buy a unit there."

"Serendra is so overrated! It looks like an HDB (public housing developments in Singapore.)"

"It's so 'sosy' ha! As in, pagbaba mo andon na lahat ng gimikan!"

So you see, people have different takes on Serendra, amongst other things.

I'm sure I will get flamed for this but...

While I think the location of Serendra, the amenities and open spaces are all fantastic I can't help but think the actual exterior of the buildings look cheap and crowded, like a social housing project when in fact it a prime development. I am talking about the low to mid rise areas here, I think the high rise looks nice.

I don't mean to offend anyone here I know it will be a great place to live and a good investment.

MNL

May 13th, 2007, 07:08 PM

looking good.:D

realtor_manila

May 14th, 2007, 05:16 AM

Hello Everyone!

Maybe someone here will be able to answer my question that I directed to One Serendra and their customer service but never got a response.

I was planning what I was going to do for my next trip to the Philippines (when I actually go with my parents to accept the condo they bought) and I was wondering about Cable TV services.

Again, I e-mailed One Serendra with no reply. As you saw in the e-mail, I informed about SkyCable prepaid services but no luck. Hope someone can help me :) THANKS!

Hello!

With regard to those cable TV services, you really have to coordinate with the Building Administrator/Property Manager based at One Serendra (that's Ayala Property Mgt Corp). It is best to talk to them when you're here in the Phils.

The property management office can help you with regard to cable TV application, telephone and internet connection.

For cable TV services, I know that there's a lock-in period of at least 12 months.

For telephone services, PLDT and Globe Telecom are the telecom providers at Serendra. The lock-in period is between 12-24 mos, depending on the telecom provider.

You can do all these when you're here in Manila.

Dvorak

May 14th, 2007, 05:30 AM

depende minsan sa condo yan.. like some condos only allow a specific cable tv provider, same with ISP..

sa boni ridge, they only allow skycable as the cable tv provider, PLDT and GLOBE for phone, and the three for Internet provider.

-TC-

May 14th, 2007, 05:38 AM

From Community Innovations website… another perspective of Two Serendra:

http://www.communityinnovations.com.ph/images/c_talk/article_01-pic.jpg

Above - Community Innovations president Bobby Dy (center) together with Melissa Gil, Ayala Land shows Two Serendra concept to guest

A_Q

May 14th, 2007, 06:36 AM

Hello!

With regard to those cable TV services, you really have to coordinate with the Building Administrator/Property Manager based at One Serendra (that's Ayala Property Mgt Corp). It is best to talk to them when you're here in the Phils.

The property management office can help you with regard to cable TV application, telephone and internet connection.

For cable TV services, I know that there's a lock-in period of at least 12 months.

For telephone services, PLDT and Globe Telecom are the telecom providers at Serendra. The lock-in period is between 12-24 mos, depending on the telecom provider.

You can do all these when you're here in Manila.

Yeah, we'll just wait until we're there. It's pretty hard when you have only a few weeks to set up as much as you can for the condo.

Thanks for the reply!

TheRick

May 14th, 2007, 06:38 AM

Dvorak

May 14th, 2007, 06:41 AM

besides SOMA

Where is Serendra's showroom?

bartman

May 14th, 2007, 08:56 AM

one serendra will be serviced by sky cable. it is NOT operational as of now but may be on line by next month.

i've been very positive with my assessment of ALI and serendra in particular (at least based on my experience). when i first went to serendra on apr 26, i was told that they were were told that wireless internet was scheduled to go on line by end of month. i've been using the wifi service now (free and available at certain public areas) for about 2 weeks.

realtor_manila

May 14th, 2007, 11:31 AM

bartman

May 14th, 2007, 12:54 PM

Hello Bart!

Which particular public area at Serendra has free Wifi service?

heto sa a different bookstore
sa ibaba't itaas

sa chelsea din, i was right outside
sa entrance lobby beside thai@silk

yun na ang mga nasubukan ko

realtor_manila

May 14th, 2007, 01:56 PM

heto sa a different bookstore
sa ibaba't itaas

sa chelsea din, i was right outside
sa entrance lobby beside thai@silk

yun na ang mga nasubukan ko

Bart, thank you!

The long-term plan at Bonifacio Global City is to have the entire area wired (free wi-fi talaga) - I just don't know when!

Anyway, I'm happy to know that there's free wi-fi at "A Different Bookstore". Coool! Salamat!

KiBeN

May 14th, 2007, 07:59 PM

http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/2628/dsc1510zv8.jpg

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/7143/dsc1513ra1.jpg

A_Q

May 14th, 2007, 09:33 PM

Edmundtanso

May 14th, 2007, 09:34 PM

thanks for the photos Kiben.....do you happend to have other serendra photos? thanks

Dvorak

May 15th, 2007, 04:01 AM

nakapasok na rin sa Serendra (thanks Bart!).. here are some pics.. pasensya na malabo eh..

Parking

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/FBGC/Seren1.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/FBGC/Seren2.jpg

bi-level 2 bedroom unit - thanks don sa may ari!
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/FBGC/Seren3.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/FBGC/Seren4.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/FBGC/Seren5.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/FBGC/Seren6.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/FBGC/Seren7.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/FBGC/Seren8.jpg

bartman

May 15th, 2007, 10:33 AM

i was just at the admin office to ask about something
they informed me that would be residents are being discouraged from moving in for "safety and security reasons".

i just just got off the phone with ALI's customer relations and was told that ayala's vp conducted a walk through of serendra and was disappointed with the progress and is having a lot of things done. at any rate, ALI is proposing to house would be residents temporarily at TRAG townhomes @ greenbelt2 (2BR unit, includes parking, all at no cost to us). i was told that i'd get further details in the morning and they gave me a projected move in date of 1 july at serendra.

details to follow...

anone

May 15th, 2007, 10:41 AM

Parang hindi ko gusto yung hagdanan. It's very basic and cheap looking.

Dvorak

May 15th, 2007, 10:57 AM

aba aba.. so dito ka daw muna sa Residences?? ayus yan ahh.... so kelan move in mo dito?? :banana:

i was just at the admin office to ask about something
they informed me that would be residents are being discouraged from moving in for "safety and security reasons".

i just just got off the phone with ALI's customer relations and was told that ayala's vp conducted a walk through of serendra and was disappointed with the progress and is having a lot of things done. at any rate, ALI is proposing to house would be residents temporarily at TRAG townhomes @ greenbelt2 (2BR unit, includes parking, all at no cost to us). i was told that i'd get further details in the morning and they gave me a projected move in date of 1 july at serendra.

details to follow...

MakatiBoy

May 15th, 2007, 06:08 PM

Don't worry Cropduster, except for a few, people in this forum are very respectful of others' opinions, so I'm almost sure you won't get flamed for stating yours.

Funny how I was at a Pinoy gathering in Singapore and a group of Pinoy yuppies talked about Serendra. Some of their comments were:

"I can't wait to move back to the Philippines and live in Serendra.. it's beautiful!"

"It's so expensive, but the exterior looks cheap!"

"If I only had the money, I would buy a unit there."

"Serendra is so overrated! It looks like an HDB (public housing developments in Singapore.)"

"It's so 'sosy' ha! As in, pagbaba mo andon na lahat ng gimikan!"

So you see, people have different takes on Serendra, amongst other things.

The best things about Serendra: location, location, location and amenities.

The exterior is not so impressive (but not bad). Anyway, Singapore's HDB is world-class especially the new ones.

Samples:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/39/117962358_85382cea5b.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/38/117963054_6b6653c09d.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/122/300001990_689dab2e52.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/54/125245636_3439c626f9.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/19/117988262_a9d65aa667.jpg?v=0

raf

May 15th, 2007, 06:57 PM

^^ people who've been to western/westernized countries couldn't be blamed for making those remarks because they do look like subsidized tenements. If you've been to brooklyn or low-brow chicago then you'll know what people are saying. Some even look more classy because made out of weathered brick and beautiful stoneware, as opposed to plain concrete painted in bright colors..

but serendra's location is hands-down the best anywhere in boni, and you have practically all amenities ready for you right there and right now, compared to buying a unit elsewhere in boni and having to wait for other buildings/malls to sprout from the vast bare land surrounding your condo

ChicTown

May 15th, 2007, 10:28 PM

3cr

May 16th, 2007, 04:30 AM

bartman

May 16th, 2007, 11:14 AM

ipuka2004

May 16th, 2007, 11:21 AM

Parang hindi ko gusto yung hagdanan. It's very basic and cheap looking.

I don't like the look of those stairs too.

Dvorak

May 16th, 2007, 11:27 AM

anong itsura nung units?? may tumira na ba??

ok na rin yan.. kesa naman sa paranaque.. at least yan malapit sa Greenbelt.. at higit sa lahat.. malapit sa amin! :banana: 2 bedrooms ba kamo??

^^ still waiting release from customs and delivery.

the greenbelt place is the townhomes on GB2 on the fourth floor. they're 2 level units, having 2 BRs upstairs. not bad but looks spartan. we get free parking for one vehicle. no wifi :(

TheRick

May 16th, 2007, 11:57 AM

dunamis

May 16th, 2007, 01:12 PM

For me I like the area where 1McKinley, The Icon, Bellagio are located... Nice golf course view, quiet area (corner) - away from the heavy traffic. Maybe a little bit cleaner air since its away from plenty of car exhaust from busy main roads.

I agree. I like the view of Manila Golf and Makati. And the place is zoned as resdiential and mixed use. Di ba mas maliit yung FAR dito sa area.That's why IMHO the condos like Fairways, Pacific Plaza, 1 Mckinley, Bellagio Towers and Boni Ridge enjoy the best location if your looking for a view and a residential community. :cheers:

ChicTown

May 16th, 2007, 02:42 PM

^^ still waiting release from customs and delivery.

the greenbelt place is the townhomes on GB2 on the fourth floor. they're 2 level units, having 2 BRs upstairs. not bad but looks spartan. we get free parking for one vehicle. no wifi :(

@bartman, sorry to hear the unpleasant news re. your move-in. At least you've gotten something out of it though it's cumbersome for sure. Nevertheless, our best wishes to you and good luck. Remember "good things come to those who wait".Take care and regards!:) :) :)

bartman

May 16th, 2007, 03:33 PM

dacal a salamat! yes, i'm really trying to be patient through all these
btw, my container's been released. i have movers scheduled to work all night if necessary to comple the delivery :)

ChicTown

May 16th, 2007, 05:58 PM

ChicTown

May 16th, 2007, 06:17 PM

I agree. I like the view of Manila Golf and Makati. And the place is zoned as resdiential and mixed use. Di ba mas maliit yung FAR dito sa area.That's why IMHO the condos like Fairways, Pacific Plaza, 1 Mckinley, Bellagio Towers and Boni Ridge enjoy the best location if your looking for a view and a residential community. :cheers:

:) :) We agree with you @dunamis, that's why we settled for Boni Ridge--- overlooking part of the Manila Golf Course, the Bellagios/Forbeswoods, the High Street and the NAIA (distance). Overall, FBGC serves as well and we love it. Regards!:) :) :)

TheRick

May 16th, 2007, 09:43 PM

:) :) We agree with you @dunamis, that's why we settled for Boni Ridge--- overlooking part of the Manila Golf Course, the Bellagios/Forbeswoods, the High Street and the NAIA (distance). Overall, FBGC serves as well and we love it. Regards!:) :) :)

I just wish I had enough $$$ to get in The Icon or Bellagio... :lol:

But I opted to go for the BTO projects to get 3 1-Bedroom units instead of 1 big unit in those projects. I had to make a tough choice :ohno:

Regardless where you are in the FBGC, I think its the area where potential growth is going to big. And evrybody will be happy :banana:

3cr

May 16th, 2007, 11:26 PM

dacal a salamat! yes, i'm really trying to be patient through all these
btw, my container's been released. i have movers scheduled to work all night if necessary to comple the delivery :) ^^ Oh good the container is out of customs na pala and your things will soon be in transit to your unit na. Buti na lang you're lucky in that you don't have to worry about vacation days no more. Atleast you have the flexibility to extend your stay there as needed. Konting tiis na lang bro though I'm sure you're having a good time in Pinas anyway. Good Luck on the move Bart! :)

3cr

May 16th, 2007, 11:52 PM

I just wish I had enough $$$ to get in The Icon or Bellagio... :lol:

But I opted to go for the BTO projects to get 3 1-Bedroom units instead of 1 big unit in those projects. I had to make a tough choice :ohno:

Regardless where you are in the FBGC, I think its the area where potential growth is going to big. And evrybody will be happy :banana:
^^ I agree with you Rick. The beauty of BGC is that it was planned in such a way that everything is essentially walking distance and pedestrian friendly (or at worse a Fort Bus away) so all the developments are really in proximity of one another converging at the City Center now known as Boni High Street, which is only steps away from Serendra (The unit owners at Serendra are really lucky in that way). Btw I heard price at Serendra is close to P100T/SQM already - if true ang mahal na no? Swerte talaga those who bought there early.

You know, I would have still gone with the same strategy you've taken if the plan for the unit purchase is to rent out the 3 units as an investment vehicle/property. You're able to spread your risk that way compared to if you ended up with 1 expensive unit to rent out. Of course it's different if I am to live in it. But regardless of which project in Fort Boni one ended up buying, what is important is that we had the vision early on to invest in Fort Boni which I'm sure has already been proving to be the right/wise choice and will be paying even more great dividends as the City evolves into a world class CBD. Tiba-tiba na tayo niyan by the time we get the keys to our units. :)

laquacherra

May 17th, 2007, 06:03 AM

^^ seems like i'm even more conservative than you guys... a major consideration for me too was the long run property management of the condo building/development as a whole... a reliable property management with a good track record was a MUST and a PRIORITY for me :)

theOCdiva

May 17th, 2007, 06:40 AM

^^ Btw I heard price at Serendra is close to P100T/SQM already - if true ang mahal na no? Swerte talaga those who bought there early....

:)

Wow, Boe, is this really true? So in 2008, it will be up some more? Awesome!
I'll be so happy if this is true, lots of bang for the buck! :)

^^ seems like i'm even more conservative than you guys... a major consideration for me too was the long run property management of the condo building/development as a whole... a reliable property management with a good track record was a MUST and a PRIORITY for me :)

I agree with you, Lauren; this was one reason I bought at Serendra - who will manage and quality of management. And Ayala was my number 1 choice due to its track record, too! :)

TheRick

May 17th, 2007, 07:21 AM

^^ I agree with you Rick. The beauty of BGC is that it was planned in such a way that everything is essentially walking distance and pedestrian friendly (or at worse a Fort Bus away) so all the developments are really in proximity of one another converging at the City Center now known as Boni High Street, which is only steps away from Serendra (The unit owners at Serendra are really lucky in that way). Btw I heard price at Serendra is close to P100T/SQM already - if true ang mahal na no? Swerte talaga those who bought there early.

You know, I would have still gone with the same strategy you've taken if the plan for the unit purchase is to rent out the 3 units as an investment vehicle/property. You're able to spread your risk that way compared to if you ended up with 1 expensive unit to rent out. Of course it's different if I am to live in it. But regardless of which project in Fort Boni one ended up buying, what is important is that we had the vision early on to invest in Fort Boni which I'm sure has already been proving to be the right/wise choice and will be paying even more great dividends as the City evolves into a world class CBD. Tiba-tiba na tayo niyan by the time we get the keys to our units. :)

That is true, the investment will be more distributed. Plus, In the even I need to sell hopefully it would be easier selling smaller units piece by piece.

What I'm also trying is an investment strategy that works here in the US.
"The value of the least expensive property will be pulled up by the more expensive property in the area". So if the BTO projects are around P55k-P60k/sq.m and the top end projects are around P90k-P100k - hopefully by the time these BTO units are done they could easily be valued atleast P85k/sq.m.

Atleast that's what i'm wishing for... :)

TheRick

May 17th, 2007, 07:22 AM

ipuka2004

May 17th, 2007, 07:37 AM

Wow, Boe, is this really true? So in 2008, it will be up some more? Awesome!
I'll be so happy if this is true, lots of bang for the buck! :)

I agree with you, Lauren; this was one reason I bought at Serendra - who will manage and quality of management. And Ayala was my number 1 choice due to its track record, too! :)

I also agree with lauren and ocdiva. My decision was based on Ayala quality.

Dvorak

May 17th, 2007, 08:45 AM

uyy sa boni ridge ka pala nakabili.. anong tower?

:) :) We agree with you @dunamis, that's why we settled for Boni Ridge--- overlooking part of the Manila Golf Course, the Bellagios/Forbeswoods, the High Street and the NAIA (distance). Overall, FBGC serves as well and we love it. Regards!:) :) :)

3cr

May 17th, 2007, 11:10 AM

That is true, the investment will be more distributed. Plus, In the even I need to sell hopefully it would be easier selling smaller units piece by piece.

What I'm also trying is an investment strategy that works here in the US.
"The value of the least expensive property will be pulled up by the more expensive property in the area". So if the BTO projects are around P55k-P60k/sq.m and the top end projects are around P90k-P100k - hopefully by the time these BTO units are done they could easily be valued atleast P85k/sq.m.

Atleast that's what i'm wishing for... :)
That's true you've got a point there. You know at the other end of Boni High Street, Shang has plans of putting up a 6 star Hotel along 5th Avenue. It's the same lot that Donald Trump is also interested in developing. Hopefully this will give Ayala the incentive/push to work on the other half of Boni High Street in preparation for the PSE and Hotels that will eventually line up along 5th Avenue. If things fall into place it may just be that 5th Avenue in Fort Boni will become the counterpart of Makati's Ayala Ave. So much happening in Fort Boni and it's all very exciting indeed! :banana: :banana: :banana:

Wow, Boe, is this really true? So in 2008, it will be up some more? Awesome! I'll be so happy if this is true, lots of bang for the buck! :) ^^ We'll all be Very Happy at the rate Fort Boni is developing. I'm sure eventually Serendra will even go past the P100T/SQM mark with such high-end developments (Hotels and the PSE among others) moving into the area. We just need to be a little patient and we will be rewarded handsomely as the city evolves into a world class CBD! :banana: :banana: :banana:

3cr

May 17th, 2007, 11:29 AM

Here's the article:
HK's Shangri-La eyeing Ft. Boni project:banana:
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryID=77517

Hong Kong-based Shangri-La Hotels and Resorts, the largest Asian-based deluxe hotel group in the region, is interested to build a luxury hotel in Bonifacio Global City, the Bases Conversion and Development Authority (BCDA) said.

BCDA president Narciso Abaya said that in a preliminary presentation to the BCDA Board held recently, the Shangri-la group proposed to build a six-star luxury hotel at a 1.2-hectare property of the BCDA.

Shangri-La Hotels and Resorts Vice President Greg Dogan expressed to the BCDA Board its keen interest in the lot formerly known as the Government Center for Investment located right beside the City Center of the Bonifacio Global City.

The said lot is also the area being eyed by the US-based Trump Group headed by real estate and entertainment tycoon Donald Trump.

BCDA chairman Aloysius Santos said that the presentation was on a no-commitment basis. "No decision has been made. The BCDA Board is mapping out an action plan for a transparent competitive selection process among the interested proponents," he said.
^^ Yabadabadoo!!! All these major players are fighting over Fort Boni and I love it !!! :banana: :banana: :banana:

MetropolitanBoy

May 17th, 2007, 03:01 PM

That's just across Embassy and Hyundai! I heard that Grand Hyatt will be along 5th but at the corner of the street of Bonifacio High Street. Discovery will be in that area as well. We can just walk down the road when these hotels are completed! Hihihihihihihi!!!

KiBeN

May 17th, 2007, 03:09 PM

Dvorak

May 17th, 2007, 04:14 PM

got a call from Bart and Vic that they were at the Residences at GB2 (Bart's temporary unit).. so double_bee and me dropped by..

the garden on top of GB2

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/Seren9.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/Seren11.jpg

there are about 30 units..

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/Seren10.jpg

the view at the back (GB5 construction)

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/Seren12.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/Seren13.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/Seren14.jpg

then we went to Serendra to help Bart unpack his stuff that just arrived last night..

the pool @ Serendra
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/Seren15.jpg

Bart brought in a box of snow!

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/Seren16.jpg

then back to GB3 for some coffee

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/Seren17.jpg

ChicTown

May 17th, 2007, 04:45 PM

uyy sa boni ridge ka pala nakabili.. anong tower?

Hello @Dvorak. Hope all is well! Thanks for all the info on various subjects you've shared in other threads. Sa Cypress Pt. Tower kami nakabili at hindi pa nga tapos ang furnishings. Mga utol ko ang namamahala ngayon at pag uwi uli ni misis sa Junio at sia na lang ang mag-asikaso. I'll just follow na lang sometime in October after my 2nd foot surgery/rehab. Hope my doctor will allow me to go and continue my therapy there while on a disability leave. Thanks again and regards to everyone!:) :)

ChicTown

May 17th, 2007, 05:02 PM