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stephencua

February 2nd, 2007, 07:00 AM

taken from inquirer.net..

Gov't to buy out MRT operator 'anytime this year'

Inquirer
Last updated 07:03am (Mla time) 02/02/2007

THE Office of the President has decided to buy out Metro Rail Transit Corp., the partner of Department of Transportation and Communication (DoTC) in the overhead train system Metro Rail Transit (MRT) and operator of the system, and the DoTC has asked the Department of Justice for a legal opinion, a DoTC official.

The buyout "could happen anytime this year because the Office of the President has already decided to implement it, as recommended by the [Department of Finance],” Guiling Mamondiong, department undersecretary for railways, told reporters.

The system is estimated to be worth $750-$800 million, and the government intends to finance the buyout by selling bonds and taking out concessional loans, he said.

Mamondiong said the DoTC officials tasked to do the buyout had met with justice department officials. The justice department is expected to issue a legal opinion next month, he said.

The government in August 2005 created an inter-agency committee headed by the Department of Finance to draft a takeover strategy for the MRT.

The government sees the takeover as a way to save on fare subsidies and interest payments to Metro Rail Transit Corp., which built the MRT under a build-lease-transfer scheme, Mamondiong said.

The MRT runs daily from North Avenue in Quezon City to Taft Avenue in Pasay City.

Its general manager, Roberto Lastimoso, earlier said the average fare, currently P12, should be around P60, and the government was subsidizing the difference.

Lastimoso also said the monthly revenue generated by MRT was not enough to cover the P250 million in maintenance fees that the government pays every month. With INQUIRER.net

bustero

February 2nd, 2007, 07:03 AM

Wow if they do that they could perhaps make a seemless train connection from lrt1 to mrt3. Will the gauges and electromechanical infrastructure work together , I wonder?

Askal82

February 2nd, 2007, 07:06 AM

Wow if they do that they could perhaps make a seemless train connection from lrt1 to mrt3. Will the gauges and electromechanical infrastructure work together , I wonder?

Not only that but LRTA can manage it better than MRTC.

FrancisXavier

February 2nd, 2007, 07:17 AM

Wow if they do that they could perhaps make a seemless train connection from lrt1 to mrt3. Will the gauges and electromechanical infrastructure work together , I wonder?

i guess it was bondurant who said these lines cannot be merged due to incompatibility.. it would be a nice idea though.. a complete loop of the metro without transfering trains..

queetz@home

February 2nd, 2007, 09:19 AM

^^ Nuts to that! The technology of the systems used by LRT1 and MRT3 is totally compatible. Linking them and adjusting the signallying is not rocket science and both train sets use the same track gauge. Imagine a seamless ride from MRT3 Taft station all the way around to Bacoor! Man! Gloria is smart and I hope this buyout does in fact happen and LRT1 is physically connected to MRT3. Plus it will save a lot of money if they don't need to build an additional station in SM North and don't have to buy as many cars as needed if the two lines are physically disconnected (due to the interchangability).

cool_blue

February 2nd, 2007, 06:22 PM

More exciting news from the old thread.

Proponents lining up for LRT Line 1 South Extension.

it's so long over due...

queetz@home

February 2nd, 2007, 08:47 PM

I finally used the MRT3 for the first time since I arrived last December wherein I took it from EDSA Shangrila to SM North tonight (in rush hour). Prior to that, I used it once to go from Ayala to EDSA Shangrila but that was in 2002 (wasn't rush hour).

Anyways, despite it being rush hour in which the cars are packed like sardines, I think MRT3 is actually pretty good! I can honestly say its FAR BETTER than Vancouver's Skytrain despite the crowdiness. My reasoning being is the trains, despite it seemingly small, especially compared to LRT2, are actually pretty big it easily fit all those people. Plus the climate control system is pretty potent that it didn't feel warm at all. The Vancouver Skytrain cars are way smaller, even their newer Mark II, and despite the Mark IIs having A/C and despite the fact that Vancouver is colder than Metro Manila, it simply ain't that comfortable, especially if crowded (Mark IIs are okay if not crowded while Mark Is....avoid like a plague).

So I honestly don't get those people, especially those who has never used it, always whine and bitch that the MRT3 is crap. I know its not the LRT2 (which I have yet to try but can only imagine it is at most like the Toronto subway, which I found pretty impressive) but I think MRT3 is a pretty excellent system. :okay:

Now this experience makes me even more sadder that MRTC f*cked up the whole thing and denied those people between Monumento and SM North what would have been an excellent way to commute. So hopefully the government does successfully buyout the MRT3 line from those idiots at MRTC and physically connects it to LRT1.... :yes:

Mithril Cloud

February 3rd, 2007, 02:54 AM

Despite the shaky ride and occasional malfunctions, the MRT3 is indeed good. :yes:

Askal82

February 3rd, 2007, 06:43 AM

Askal82

February 3rd, 2007, 06:50 AM

Despite the shaky ride and occasional malfunctions, the MRT3 is indeed good. :yes:

MRT service is not that bad except the queueing part which is really a huge hassle. The train itself is running perfectly fine and sometimes behaves like an express service because I encountered one time when the sardine packed MRT bypassed Ortigas station where I was at and I heard the announcement that it's heading straight to Cubao bypassing the Santolan station.

vince_rilian

February 3rd, 2007, 01:52 PM

hmmm, dapat lagyan na rin ng mga map yung bawat station ng LRT/MRT (na may proper labels rin dapat) paano kasi kung di mo kabisado ang LRT/MRT? kasi nung 1st time kong mag LRT ng mag isa at no idea ako kung ilang stations in between at di ko pa sigurado kung sa aling istasyon ako bababa, kailangan ko pa magtanong tanong sa mga tao, hehehe...(nakakahiya tuloy noon)

yung sa LRT2 naman eh may map nga, kaso "try to find out yourself" kung paano babasahin, nasa aling istasyon ka at pasaan direksyon, ehehe, buti na lang nakakaintindi ako ng mga mapa, eh paano kung tatanga tanga gumamit ng map yung nagbabasa? hehehe

richard24

February 3rd, 2007, 03:43 PM

so if the govt would buy mrt3, LRTA na ba ang mag-mamanage nito?

queetz@home

February 4th, 2007, 08:03 AM

^^ I hope so. Better than the DOTC for sure since the DOTC actually had the nerve to even consider that absolutely dreadful ENT! :mad2:

metrosuburban

February 5th, 2007, 11:08 AM

queetz@home

February 5th, 2007, 11:41 AM

^^ Go to Vancouver and try their Skytrain system in rush hour (or if for a Mark I car, even during non-rush hour). Even at its current state, the MRT3 kicks ass compared to Vancouver's Skytrain.... :okay:

richard24

February 5th, 2007, 01:46 PM

a sleepy 11am west-bound train passing through katipunan.

http://i15.tinypic.com/486wt50.jpg

Dvorak

February 5th, 2007, 01:49 PM

wow.. 11am.. ang luwag..

sa MRT subukan mo mag picture nang 11am.. pag hindi puro balikat at mukha nakuhanan mo don.. :bash:

a sleepy 11am west-bound train passing through katipunan.

http://i15.tinypic.com/486wt50.jpg

richard24

February 5th, 2007, 01:53 PM

^^ 10am onwards, ang trains na west bound ay ganito...

pag east bound, from opening till 11am walang laman.

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one sided kasi ang traffic ng east-west... unlike ung sa edsa na north-south.

Mithril Cloud

February 5th, 2007, 02:39 PM

a sleepy 11am west-bound train passing through katipunan.

http://i15.tinypic.com/486wt50.jpg

Pwede na magbreakdance sa gitna dahil sa luwag. :lol:

tyronne

February 5th, 2007, 09:27 PM

Ang luwang nga. Sana meron ding part na may rows of seats para ma-maximize yung space, hindi lahat yung magkaharap na nakaupo.

FrancisXavier

February 6th, 2007, 12:51 AM

pag punuan kasi mas mariming nakakasakay pagka ganyan..

queetz@home

February 6th, 2007, 03:28 AM

Ang luwang nga. Sana meron ding part na may rows of seats para ma-maximize yung space, hindi lahat yung magkaharap na nakaupo.

Trust me, that's not a good idea. If you have rows of seats, it wastes a lot of space. The LRT vehicles in Metro Manila has to maximize its people carrying capacity. All it would take to fill up that LRT2 to the brink is to extend it to Antipolo and Divisoria. I hope they do that soon so we can fully utilize that line...:yes:

stephencua

February 6th, 2007, 04:06 AM

taken from inquirer.net..

NDC to float P10B worth of bonds for infra projects

Inquirer
Last updated 02:37am (Mla time) 02/06/2007

MANILA, Philippines -- State-owned National Development Co. (NDC) plans to float locally P10 billion worth of bonds this year, after selling P10 billion worth in 2006, to fund key infrastructure projects, Economic Planning Secretary Romulo Neri said.

NDC has authority to issue as much as P20 billion worth of peso-denominated bonds, Neri told reporters.

Proceeds of the second float will be used to finance such projects as the interconnection of Metro Manila's Metro Rail Transit (MRT) and Light Rail Transit Line 1 (LRT1) overhead train systems, he said.

"Then we will see how we could finance the LRT1-to-Cavite extension,” Neri said.

Proceeds of last year's P10-billion float went to infrastructure support for agriculture, specifically construction of roads and provision of irrigation systems that would make about two million hectares of land available for farming.

Neri said that in 2006 the implementation of an expanded value-added tax was the single most important reform that brought good tidings to the Philippines, and that this year the positive catalyst would be “hard” and “soft” infrastructure, the latter referring to the regulatory environment for infrastructure-related sectors such as power, shipping, port, and airline.

The MRT3-LRT1 interconnection, involving construction of a 5.4-kilometer seamless line in Quezon City and of three new stations, will cost about P6.4 billion. Construction is targeted to begin this year for completion in 2010.

Neri said the country should also use local funds for its infrastructure requirements, rather than foreign borrowings.

“We have to be careful also," he said. "Financing is not the problem. We have to make sure that the money goes to good projects and efficiently-priced projects.”

He said the country’s biggest challenge this year after attaining a fiscal turnaround would be microeconomic reform. “We need to fast track both soft and hard infrastructure. The hard infrastructure refers to the roads, bridges, ports and airports,” he explained. Doris C. Dumlao, with INQUIRER.net

queetz@home

February 6th, 2007, 04:09 AM

^^ Ah my favourite word in the world of rail rapid transit in Metro Manila....seamless :okay:

flymordecai

February 6th, 2007, 04:15 AM

Great news...can't wait for it to start. I'll be sure to try out the MRT/LRT next time I go to the Philippines!

systematica

February 6th, 2007, 09:28 PM

Anyways, despite it being rush hour in which the cars are packed like sardines, I think MRT3 is actually pretty good! I can honestly say its FAR BETTER than Vancouver's Skytrain despite the crowdiness. My reasoning being is the trains, despite it seemingly small, especially compared to LRT2, are actually pretty big it easily fit all those people.

I was in Manila last week and tried the MRT3 and LRT1 and can't see how you can even compare it to a Canadian system. The trainsets are the "easy" part of the system, since they are practically the "off the shelf" parts. The hard part is the stations and how they handle people and service their areas. In that respect I think Manila's is the worst rail system I've used. Transferring lines is absolute hell. The queues for tickets and then turnstiles in the poorly maintained stations made me feel I was lining up to be shipped off to a concentration camp. It puzzles me how a system built in the last 10 to 20 years could be so devoid of basic human dignity. Despite the cheap cost of construction labor in the Philippines, these lines did not cost significantly lower than other systems in the world that have far superior systems. Konteng arte man lang sana.

queetz@home

February 7th, 2007, 09:51 AM

^^ I guess it makes a big difference for me since when i was in Canada, I lived beside a Skytrain station and worked beside a Skytrain station. I used it everyday and probably has more experience with Vancouver's little rail rapid transit system more than most if not all people in these forums (and I mean the whole SSC, not just Phils). Yes I can imagine that transferring is hell given the long walks and the stations ain't pretty (although LRT2, I hear, kicks ass), but my criteria has nothing to do with looks but more to do with functionality.

You said so yourself, "konteng arte man lang sana", which for those English speakers only, means, "I wish there was a little bit more aesthetics" or something like that. What for? The MRT/LRT systems in the Philippines are designed to move hundreds of thousands of people, MRT3 alone which is at least eight times more than the optomistic ridership figures for the new $2 billion Canada Line. I am comparing it with Vancouver's SKytrain, something which I know intimately. And I'm telling you, MRT3 kicks Skytrain's ass! How do they do it? As I said before, by using bigger, longer, wider, and taller trains. Its so simple really....

AH-7Raja

February 8th, 2007, 07:27 AM

Well Toronto's Subway system is very efficient, but the outside design looks crappy simple, well i guess since these trains are underground, they never bothered to come up with a prettier design. While inside the coaches are almost similar to our LRT/MRT, but have staggard "L" pattern seats, unlike the pinoy version with only straight side-seats (not sure though coz i haven't seen all of the MRT trains yet). Inside too have illuminated-maps on every top of the doors, including those commercial advertisings all over the corner-side ceilings, and most importantly it even has an emergency buttons and pulling-cables against any vandalism, harassments, and other emergency situations.

Meanwhile the downside of the Toronto Subway System are the platform stations. They are old and been there for more than 5 decades. The floor is dirty at linilibag na, even the walls are getting dark, and absolutely unsafe.

There were many incidents happened there when some people was pushed and got killed along the tracks by some lunatics, and it happened not trice but more than 5 times already ever since its birth. And its washrooms are the best place for the crooks to hold-up someone and kicked their asses out and beaten to the germs infested floor!

I hope RP will upgrade their LRT/MRT standards to come up with the canadian pace but add some more safety features like installing public cameras.

:)

queetz@home

February 8th, 2007, 07:36 AM

^^ As long as they don't use Vancouver as their benchmark or may God help us all... :rant:

crappypants

February 8th, 2007, 08:25 AM

it is kind of like running a marathon trying to ride the MRt , by the time you go up the stairs cross the street , go down the stairs, in that blistering heat ,you're drenced in sweat befere you get to your destination.

thomasian

February 8th, 2007, 10:56 AM

^^ Not to mention that the ticketing area on the concourse level (applicable only to stations with separate concourse and platform levels like Cubao, etc.) are badly designed with little or no ventilation wind coming from outside plus all the heat from their equipment being trapped inside, queueing alone makes you all-sweaty.

systematica

February 8th, 2007, 06:51 PM

Askal82

February 9th, 2007, 02:29 AM

What would really work well is flow-through ticketing booths (like toll booths). It's really awful how you have to wade through the line ups after you've bought your ticket.

I went from Quirino to Ayala and the transfer between EDSA and Taft took almost 45 minutes, more than the riding time!

To me, station design is the most important aspect of a mass transit system. It's not about handling trains, it's about handling people. The stations in Manila were doomed to be obsolete the day they opened because thought was not given to the masses of people going in and out. I think this is the biggest limiting factor of the system, because no matter how many trains they add, the stations cannot handle the volume of passengers.

I think the MRT and LRT were designed without a 'set of standardized system' in its blueprint. I admit that I hate it when I have to take a long walk from one system to another, lining up to get a new fare then anticipate a long line getting through the turnstyles where each passenger is subject to security checks. Although the trains are running perfectly fine, the system steals a big chunk of your travel time offsetting the benefits of faster and hassle-free travel.

queetz@home

February 9th, 2007, 03:52 AM

Askal82

February 9th, 2007, 04:01 AM

^^ In terms of time though, given the alternative (Manila traffic), the cost/benefit ratio is still pretty good. Its not a perfect system but it gets the job done. Besides, Filipino transit riders are more resilient (that those Vancouver ones who whine and complain about transfers from one line to another even though its literally one escalator ride away) and hence, can easily walk from one system to another... :yes:

Well it is true Manila traffic stalls to a snail crawl when rush hours are notoriously mixed with high vehicular volume on our narrow roadways even with color coding schemes. It couldve been much worse without these systems in place.

crappypants

February 9th, 2007, 07:18 PM

parang biten na naman ang pagkakagawa. palaging binibiten ang mga masang pilipino. pwede na siguro kesa wala mentality ,okey na ren pero hindi magiging world class ang level pag walang expectation.

queetz@home

February 10th, 2007, 03:49 AM

^^ Well, if funds are short but the lines are desperately needed, I'd rather get something functional right now than fancy anyway. We can always make them pretty ones the entire network is complete since at that point in time, the economy would improve like crazy due to the efficient movement of people and we would have the funds to do whatever we want.... :yes:

richard24

February 10th, 2007, 01:49 PM

a 1pm east-bound train...
http://i5.tinypic.com/4e0xt1x.jpg

the tracks... wala lang.. :lol: hehehe.. :)
http://i9.tinypic.com/2e2e0dk.jpg

FrancisXavier

February 10th, 2007, 01:52 PM

ang luwag.. pinakamasikip na naexperience ko jan was 11am ng monday, recto-pureza.. talagang nasiksik ako sa may sulok tabi ng pinto..

richard24

February 10th, 2007, 01:54 PM

^^ try mo east bound 5pm... hindi ka makakahinga. :) or west bound 7am.. :)

FrancisXavier

February 10th, 2007, 02:09 PM

na try ko na mga 7.30..puro studyante ang sakay.. pero at least nakapwesto ako nun..:)

smokingunmanila

February 10th, 2007, 02:52 PM

What would really work well is flow-through ticketing booths (like toll booths). It's really awful how you have to wade through the line ups after you've bought your ticket.

I went from Quirino to Ayala and the transfer between EDSA and Taft took almost 45 minutes, more than the riding time!

To me, station design is the most important aspect of a mass transit system. It's not about handling trains, it's about handling people. The stations in Manila were doomed to be obsolete the day they opened because thought was not given to the masses of people going in and out. I think this is the biggest limiting factor of the system, because no matter how many trains they add, the stations cannot handle the volume of passengers.

My suggestion is for the MRT vendors to sell cards and give them commissions....in that way, they can handle the volume...like a cell card which is sold everywhere...although I know, they are losing money due to really low fares they are implementing with the MRT & LRT...compared to Thailand wherein the longest route would cost us 52 pesos...and the lowest which is b15 is equivalent to P 19.50.

I know the government is subsidizing the lost MRT & LRT are incurring...and that we don't know...GMA wants to retain the low cost for the poor and middle class to access the train.

smokingunmanila

February 10th, 2007, 03:01 PM

Well it is true Manila traffic stalls to a snail crawl when rush hours are notoriously mixed with high vehicular volume on our narrow roadways even with color coding schemes. It couldve been much worse without these systems in place.

In Los Angeles, they made a thorough study and campaign for people to carpool. They've succeeded, because your employer would give you a tax free $100 a month for carpooling, riding a bus, or riding a bicycle etc....

So they build a network wherein they will contact people in your area who works the same schedule, so all of you can carpool.

In the downtown area, there are lofts and apartments. What they did was to have a bus roaming downtown in short routes...charging $.25 cents a ride...in this way..you can also save parking which is really expensive in downtown Los Angeles.

The problem with the makati business district..the parking fees are very cheap...from P40 pesos up to only 150/ per whole day. In downtown LA..they will charge you up to $100 a day...in this way, you discourage people to bring their cars in the business district...now..for the malls, they can install rebates or parking coupons for shoppers.

If we want to solve the traffic problem here in Manila, each one has to make major sacrifices...specially the middle and upper class...not the working class..because they just commute...

If we can have a massive campaign for the rich people to leave their cars at train stations and just commute, then traffic will not be heavy during rush hour.

Let us do our share...ride the sardines pack MRT and LRT...think of it as a stairmaster, or thread mill...you save your monthly dues with fitness and you save money with gasoline....let us do our share instead of complaining..

smokingunmanila

February 10th, 2007, 03:05 PM

Also implement the different schemes of office and banking hours...

6-3, 7-4, 8-5, 9-6 and 10-7 pm........and for programmers and other non client task...assign them the 12-9pm scheme...

Mithril Cloud

February 10th, 2007, 06:42 PM

I know the government is subsidizing the lost MRT & LRT are incurring...and that we don't know...GMA wants to retain the low cost for the poor and middle class to access the train.

Only the MRT's gaining losses at the moment. The LRT has recovered from 23 straight years of losses last year.

Askal82

February 10th, 2007, 11:23 PM

In Los Angeles, they made a thorough study and campaign for people to carpool. They've succeeded, because your employer would give you a tax free $100 a month for carpooling, riding a bus, or riding a bicycle etc....

So they build a network wherein they will contact people in your area who works the same schedule, so all of you can carpool.

In the downtown area, there are lofts and apartments. What they did was to have a bus roaming downtown in short routes...charging $.25 cents a ride...in this way..you can also save parking which is really expensive in downtown Los Angeles.

The problem with the makati business district..the parking fees are very cheap...from P40 pesos up to only 150/ per whole day. In downtown LA..they will charge you up to $100 a day...in this way, you discourage people to bring their cars in the business district...now..for the malls, they can install rebates or parking coupons for shoppers.

If we want to solve the traffic problem here in Manila, each one has to make major sacrifices...specially the middle and upper class...not the working class..because they just commute...

If we can have a massive campaign for the rich people to leave their cars at train stations and just commute, then traffic will not be heavy during rush hour.

Let us do our share...ride the sardines pack MRT and LRT...think of it as a stairmaster, or thread mill...you save your monthly dues with fitness and you save money with gasoline....let us do our share instead of complaining..

I like the ideas of parking fee in CBD's of Metro Manila to be around P5000 a day during working hours- that would really discourage them from using their cars unless its extremely necesarry together with the Color coding schemes. Limit the franchise of busses along the major throuroughfares, make jeeps or FX's convert into carpools similar to L.A for the meanwhile and prioritize spending on railroad/metro infrastructure over building more roads within the city.

Dvorak

February 12th, 2007, 04:22 AM

davidwebb

February 13th, 2007, 06:41 AM

...I hope RP will upgrade their LRT/MRT standards to come up with the canadian pace but add some more safety features like installing public cameras.
:)

With the MRT3, I believe they have a few security cameras but I'm not sure if they're enough.

ishtefh_03

February 13th, 2007, 03:36 PM

that's why i buy stored value na palagi lalo na sa mrt para di na ko pipila, lalo na last summer nung nag ojt ako sa makati nakow!!! yung lines sa ayala station hanggang dulo na!!!

@kuya erwin... hmmm... siguro dahil sa tao na rin yun... hehe... ang gusto ko rin sa LRT2 malamig lalo na pag walang tao...:D

queetz@home

February 14th, 2007, 05:26 AM

In Los Angeles, they made a thorough study and campaign for people to carpool. They've succeeded, because your employer would give you a tax free $100 a month for carpooling, riding a bus, or riding a bicycle etc....

So they build a network wherein they will contact people in your area who works the same schedule, so all of you can carpool.

In the downtown area, there are lofts and apartments. What they did was to have a bus roaming downtown in short routes...charging $.25 cents a ride...in this way..you can also save parking which is really expensive in downtown Los Angeles.

The problem with the makati business district..the parking fees are very cheap...from P40 pesos up to only 150/ per whole day. In downtown LA..they will charge you up to $100 a day...in this way, you discourage people to bring their cars in the business district...now..for the malls, they can install rebates or parking coupons for shoppers.

If we want to solve the traffic problem here in Manila, each one has to make major sacrifices...specially the middle and upper class...not the working class..because they just commute...

If we can have a massive campaign for the rich people to leave their cars at train stations and just commute, then traffic will not be heavy during rush hour.

Let us do our share...ride the sardines pack MRT and LRT...think of it as a stairmaster, or thread mill...you save your monthly dues with fitness and you save money with gasoline....let us do our share instead of complaining..

The uncomplete rail network and rich people in cars is not just the problem. Its also the inefficient non-rail public transportation in the Philippines and you cannot compare that to LA....well actually you can since the LA area is Metro Manila's first world twin. Its those undisciplined jeepneys and buses that pretty much stop anywhere, including the entrances of flyovers that causes bottlenecks. How many times have you experienced that and once you clear the bottleneck, there is hardly any traffic at all until you reach the next one?

Carpooling is done a lot in Metro Manila already and I think we do a better job than LA. Despite the cheap parking, at the most part you simply cannot find a parking spot at all so you either carpool, have a driver (which also adds to the inefficiency) or use transit. But if there is going to be some real progress in the transportation problem, you have to truly have an efficient system to begin with, by completing the critical Metro Manila rail network AND imposing some kind of discipline to the non-rail public transportation system (i.e. absolutely stiff fines and penalties).

thomasian

February 14th, 2007, 08:09 AM

Solblanc

February 14th, 2007, 01:15 PM

I like the ideas of parking fee in CBD's of Metro Manila to be around P5000 a day during working hours- that would really discourage them from using their cars unless its extremely necesarry together with the Color coding schemes. Limit the franchise of busses along the major throuroughfares, make jeeps or FX's convert into carpools similar to L.A for the meanwhile and prioritize spending on railroad/metro infrastructure over building more roads within the city.

Err, I don't think that making the parking fee equivalent to minimum wage will do any good. Parking rates in Makati are prohibitive as it is. The majority of office workers in Makati don't even bother with a car, as Makati is well-connected to every part of the city; their fares are a fraction of Makati's parking fees.

The problem with the makati business district..the parking fees are very cheap...from P40 pesos up to only 150/ per whole day. In downtown LA..they will charge you up to $100 a day...in this way, you discourage people to bring their cars in the business district...now..for the malls, they can install rebates or parking coupons for shoppers.

If we want to solve the traffic problem here in Manila, each one has to make major sacrifices...specially the middle and upper class...not the working class..because they just commute...

If we can have a massive campaign for the rich people to leave their cars at train stations and just commute, then traffic will not be heavy during rush hour.

Let us do our share...ride the sardines pack MRT and LRT...think of it as a stairmaster, or thread mill...you save your monthly dues with fitness and you save money with gasoline....let us do our share instead of complaining..

There's a reason why some people don't commute. Not everyone is equipped to handle the stress of commuting. Nobody should be forced to take a mode of transport that they don't like.

thomasian

February 14th, 2007, 02:09 PM

^^ Speaking of stress... t*ngina kanina sa MRT, hindi na ako makahinga ng malalim, kapos yung hininga ko, kasi sobrang nasiksik yung chest ko, pag humihinga ako, parang di na kasya yung hangin kahit konti pa lang nahinga ko, so I just had to breathe faster to compensate for that.

Although some people would say that commuting saves you from gym fees, if you think about it, you only get cardio workouts with commuting, you still need the gym for the weights and machines. But really, I'd say that using the MRT and LRT1 and 2 alone, and transfering from one line to another, is already too much of a cardio work, dami pang pawis.

amras

February 14th, 2007, 04:26 PM

kung may backpack ka, lagay mo sa harap mo, para may kaunting space sa paghinga. pero ganun ba talaga kasiksikan na sa MRT?

thomasian

February 14th, 2007, 04:56 PM

FrancisXavier

February 14th, 2007, 05:01 PM

if it's okay to ask, what's your height @thomasian?

thomasian

February 14th, 2007, 05:35 PM

^^ I think 5'3", not too sure. But it's all in the proportions, and there are other "measurements" that matter more. :naughty: hehehe. :D

FrancisXavier

February 14th, 2007, 05:48 PM

:lol:, isnt that "other measurements" supposed to be proportional with your height.. :naughty: the taller you are, the taller/longer that other "measurements" would be...:D :lol: :naughty:

thomasian

February 14th, 2007, 06:19 PM

^^ I'd have to disagree, I've met some tall guys that failed my expectations, while there are those of my height that exceeded expectations. I can proudly say there's a lot of other people that were suprised with the "other measurement" because they've set their expectations too low because of my height. Height is almost totally unrelated to it, really, and neither is shoe size.

amras

February 14th, 2007, 06:26 PM

baka napunta lahat doon ang blessings... :lol: good for you

may tanong pala ako, do you still need to use separate tickets for the three lines? kasi the last time na umuwi ako, I bought the MRT prepaid card, kala ko pwede din gamitin sa LRT, di pala, so di ko naubos ang credits. sayang lang

Solblanc

February 15th, 2007, 12:06 AM

Unfortunately, you do need to use separate tickets for each line, unless if you use the flashpass, which I think is valid for all 3 lines.

tigidig14

February 15th, 2007, 03:08 AM

nice updates thomasian

flip2_0

February 15th, 2007, 04:08 AM

nice updates thomasian

yeah, nice updates thomasian... :lol: :lol: :lol:

nayki

February 15th, 2007, 02:12 PM

are all 3G trains of LRT1 already deployed?

vince_rilian

February 17th, 2007, 05:31 PM

kagagaling ko lang kanina don, great that at least some Line 1 stations are being refurbished, pero i'm wondring, bakit yung isang escalator papunta sa taas ng bubungan ng d.jose platform? >>gagawan din ata ng overpass para sa mga mangagaling recto station ng LRT 2 na sasakay sa side na papuntang baclaran...???

02.12.07
Doroteo Jose transfer station...

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/Photo_021207_005x.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/Photo_021207_006x.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/Photo_021207_009x.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/Photo_021207_008x.jpg

ngayon ko lang din napansin na meron nang maps na kapareho ng sa LRT line 2, dati kasi (months ago) wala

iba talaga ang feel ng Line 2, hehehe, kagagaling ko lang kanina doon eh, hehe

bale galing akong sta. mesa kanina, tapos dumaan ng SM, nakakita ako ng netopia shop, gusto ko sana mag net at mag log sa SSC, makahanap ng makaka EB, hehehe, kaso di ko na tinuloy, kahit marami pa time ko... pagod na din ako sa lakad ko eh, hehehe

thomasian

February 18th, 2007, 11:22 AM

^^ You'll see in this pic where the escalator leads you... the bridge on top of the station.

01.24.07
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/Photo_012407_003x.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/Photo_012407_007x.jpg

AH-7Raja

February 18th, 2007, 06:32 PM

02.12.07

Taft Avenue Station, the Southbound Platform's soon to open North Exit...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/Photo_021207_010x.jpg
yung south exit ng southbound platform no signs of redevelopment yet.

Doroteo Jose transfer station...

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/Photo_021207_005x.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/Photo_021207_006x.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/Photo_021207_009x.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/Photo_021207_008x.jpg

I assume that this new elevator system are for the Handicapped people, therefore is not meant to be abused by able bodies people.

Remember this, be courtious and respectful to oldies and disabled pips.

=)

AH-7Raja

February 18th, 2007, 06:35 PM

Expected ko na yung ganung pangyayari nung nakita kong punong-puno at naka-dalawang tren pa bago ako nakasakay kaya hinand-carry ko na yung backpack para mas may space pa ako para makahinga pero, siksik pa rin eh, sobra.

Another thing I hate about the MRT, hindi ko abot yung overhead handrail sa gitna, pag inabot ko ng dalawang kamay, hindi na sumasayad sa floor yung paa ko, kainis, yung overhead side-handrails naman, abot ko pero hindi convenient kasi sobrang stretched-out na yung arms ko, bad trip. :( Buti na lang (hindi mabuti actually!!!) parang sardinas ang MRT kahit hindi ka na humawak imposible kang matumba sa sobrang siksikan.

First of all, i just couldnt comprehend why Philippines bought these european trains in the first place. Its obvious, these trains were designed for taller riders (hungarian people are the tallest among all cocausians) and not for the smaller asian riders.

OFFTOPIC analysis:

Tallest to smallest Europeans by race:
1. HUNGARIANS
-Russians
-Polish
-Yugoslavians
-Slovenians
-Slovaks
-Czechs
-Ukrainians
-Romanians

2. CELTICS
-Swiss
-Austrians
-English
-Irish
-Scottish
-French
-Germans

3. SCANDANAVIANS
-Finnish
-Norwegians
-Swedish
-Danish

4. ROMANS
-Italians
-Spanish

I think, we should have atleast modified the safety handrails.

So dont worry its not your fault. =D

vince_rilian

February 18th, 2007, 07:06 PM

^^ You'll see in this pic where the escalator leads you... the bridge on top of the station.

well mabuti at hindi na kailangang tumawid ng kalsada para lamang makapunta sa kabilang side ng platform...

AH-7Raja

February 18th, 2007, 07:47 PM

my first time to ride LRT2.. malapad nga yung mga coaches.. kaya lang.. bakit ganon.. parang iba yung smell sa loob.. parang sunog na plastic na ewan..

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/Lrt2b.jpg

This is good. Posted maps inside trains are really helpful.

With the MRT3, I believe they have a few security cameras but I'm not sure if they're enough.

Sounds good, i hope it does. :)

thomasian

February 19th, 2007, 06:41 AM

I think, we should have atleast modified the safety handrails.

So dont worry its not your fault. =D

Haha, it's my genes' fault, I know.

stephencua

February 19th, 2007, 06:48 AM

i saw an ad in the newspaper today, it was posted by this group called "edsa para sa masa".. they are clamoring for the addition of more trains on MRT-3 and to finish the interconnection of the LRT-1 and MRT-3 lines..

im all for it! haha, where do you sign up?

queetz@home

February 19th, 2007, 07:06 AM

^^ Me too! Me too!!! I wanna sign up too and join that group! Which newspaper is it, btw? I looked at the Philippine Star, which I subscribe too, but could not find it.

Oh, and let us remind the voting public here that the interconnection of LRT1 and MRT3 is a top priority by GMA. :yes:

Dvorak

February 19th, 2007, 07:29 AM

finally na tyempuhan ko din yung new trains sa LRT1.. ang lamig lamig.. sana lahat nang trains ganon..

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/lrt1a.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/lrt1b.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/lrt1c.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/lrt1d.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/lrt1e.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/lrt1f.jpg

Lili

February 19th, 2007, 07:38 AM

^ Ang ganda. Ang linis.

thomasian

February 19th, 2007, 08:16 AM

I love the lighting of 3G, they're using fluorescents of 3500k color temperature. It has the soft, relaxing effect of incandescent or warm white fluorescent, but not so much that you'll be sleeping your way to your destination. Just perfectly halfway between daylight and warm white. Not to mention it looks very flattering on our skin as we asians have yellow undertones which appear to glow in warmer types of lighting (also one of the many reasons why hotels have warm lighting by combinations of incandescent, halogen, or warm-white fluorescents). Translation, mas mukha kang gwapo/maganda pag sa 3G ka sumakay. :D Kaya pag may special someone na kasabay, piliin ang 3G. hehe

I doubt though that it'll be maintained that way, because in most cases here in the PI, designs originally intended for a particular color temp. gets replaced with generic daylight lamps once the lamps start to bust out. It's like, "Uy, napundi yung fluorescent natin, bili ka dun sa hardware.", without thinking that there are different color temperatures for lamps, and so designs intended to project a certain kind of atmosphere gets ruined as the lamps get replaced wrongly one-by-one, which is, BTW, another source of frustration for int designers seeing their design ruined by the wrong lighting.

FrancisXavier

February 19th, 2007, 09:29 AM

Hindi yata level yung platform sa floor ng train..

thomasian

February 19th, 2007, 10:01 AM

^^ Hindi talaga!

02.16.07

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/Photo_021607_001xx.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/Photo_021607_002xx.jpg

stephencua

February 19th, 2007, 11:15 AM

queetz@home

February 19th, 2007, 11:17 AM

Hmm...now I will have to find a Philippine Daily Inquirer somewhere. Must text some friends since I wanna see the ad... ;)

ishtefh_03

February 19th, 2007, 01:34 PM

02.12.07

Taft Avenue Station, the Southbound Platform's soon to open North Exit...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/Photo_021207_010x.jpg
yung south exit ng southbound platform no signs of redevelopment yet.

Doroteo Jose transfer station...

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/Photo_021207_005x.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/Photo_021207_006x.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/Photo_021207_009x.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/Photo_021207_008x.jpg

buti naman at malapit na matapos yang lrt1 expansion... ang tagal rin nyan ha dapat last year pa yan tapos... kuya ko cost and planning engineer dyan kaya libre sya sa lahat ng lines, LRT/MRT... haayyy...

ok naman pala yung new trains nila...

richard24

February 19th, 2007, 02:16 PM

I assume that this new elevator system are for the Handicapped people, therefore is not meant to be abused by able bodies people.

Remember this, be courtious and respectful to oldies and disabled pips.

=)

natamaan ako dun ah... ayoko kasi umaakyat ng hagdan.. hehehe.,..

rustyboi

February 19th, 2007, 03:38 PM

MRT for me is like a big disaster waiting to happen! wag naman sana. i'm currently assigned in our Makati site for a month. wala akong kasabay so no choice commute nalang muna ako. first day ko kanina and sh*t sobrang puno! took MRT from Ortigas to Ayala vice versa. siksikan kase nga rush hour pasok ko. we're literally stuffed inside, all our body parts are in contact. sh*t, tapos the ride is sort of bumpy kaya rubbing elbows with other commuters. :ohno: i'll take a bus bukas, i think it's more comfortable. i'll check it out.

thomasian

February 19th, 2007, 04:49 PM

^^ The trick for Ayala to any destination northbound during rushour would be to do a roundtrip, taking the southbound, pagdating sa Taft wag ka nang bumaba, mae-empty na yung tren kaya makakaupo ka na, tapos your on your way to Ortigas, seated on the MRT. Just don't take the end-coach on your roundtrip because on Taft station, the order of the coaches reverses and you end-up being on the coach exclusively for girls. That happened to me once at nagtaka ako kung bakit puro babae ang nagsakayan sa tren, and then tinapik ako ng guard, sabi, "Boss pambabae po ito, sa kabila po kayo", hassle, nakakahiya, tapos paglipat ko sa kabila di na tuloy ako nakaupo kaya inantay ko na lang yung sumunod na tren.

Question, ang Stored Value ng LRT2, pwede ba sa LRT1?

metrosuburban

February 19th, 2007, 08:29 PM

natamaan ako dun ah... ayoko kasi umaakyat ng hagdan.. hehehe.,..

Nag-eelevator din ako lalo na sa Shaw and Ortigas, diko kaya maghagdan dun, para kang umakyat from ground to 5/F sa sobrang taas ng MRT stations... again, talking bout badly designed stations...

JudeD

February 19th, 2007, 08:48 PM

by my boss...

http://www.whatson-expat.com.ph/articles/2007/feb18/columns.htm

crappypants

February 19th, 2007, 08:51 PM

Rajah_Soliman

February 20th, 2007, 01:13 AM

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/images/headers/20.jpg

xxpmrong

February 20th, 2007, 01:58 AM

by my boss...

http://www.whatson-expat.com.ph/articles/2007/feb18/columns.htm

hahaha tell your boss that I enjoyed reading his post :)

richard24

February 20th, 2007, 02:25 PM

http://i13.tinypic.com/2z8q2s4.jpg

while on a stand-still between anonas-katips(eastbound) pauwi nako nito.. mga 1:00pm

the trains kanina were sira-sira... ewan ko ba... noong umaga palang parang pagong na... puros "techincal prob daw" not to mention siksikan.. at dumagdag pa na amoy putok ung malapit sa pinto namin... bad trip.

vince_rilian

February 20th, 2007, 04:31 PM

richard24

February 20th, 2007, 04:33 PM

...Question, ang Stored Value ng LRT2, pwede ba sa LRT1?

hindi ata...

thomasian

February 20th, 2007, 04:51 PM

^^ Ayoko nga! Walang "view" doon sa coach nila! Malungkot pag ganun, hehe. :D Saka baka pagkaguluhan ako dun, mahirap na! :colgate:

smokingunmanila

February 21st, 2007, 06:50 AM

bustero

February 21st, 2007, 07:53 AM

^^ sounds like a dream, are their gauges even the same. It's possible of course but when it will happen is questionable. Cheaper to just fly such distances.

Does anyone have news about those Vienese trains. Masyadong masikip na talaga sa MRT ayoko nang gamitin. Unlike Aron I'm willing to pretend I'm a girl para lang makaupo sa girls car but unfortunately di ako papasa!

ryanr

February 22nd, 2007, 12:05 AM

On today's Philstar:
LRT Line 1 North Extension project in full swing
By Rainier Allan Ronda
The Philippine Star 02/22/2007

The Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA) gave assurances yesterday that the LRT Line 1 North Extension project was "in full swing."

Three qualified consultants which will assist them in the project have been selected recently.

Melquiades "Mel Robles, LRTA administrator, said that in the pre-qualification bidding conducted last week for a consultant, three firms – Metrolink JV, Schema Konsult-DCCD Engineering Corp., KatahiraEngineers Asia Inc.-Asia Halcrow Inc., and SPI-JCCS-WCI Joint Venture – were selected from a list of seven bidders.

Robles said each of the three qualifiers have proven track records in the rail industry, not only in the Philippines but also internationally.

He reiterated that the Line 1 North Extension project was right on schedule and they expect construction of the extension project to begin early next year.

The North Extension Project aims to extend the LRT Line 1 to the North, through the construction of a 5.4-kilometer elevated line from the Monumento Station to the North Avenue Station of MRT 3 to close the EDSA loop.

The project is one of the top priority projects of President Arroyo under the Luzon Urban Beltway Super Region. It is expected to serve around 800,000 to one million passengers once fully operational.

"If undertaken by us, the project will only cost P6.57 billion since we already have the rolling stock and we will only have to construct four stations," he stressed.

Earlier proponents offered to close the loop for P34.2 billion

The LRTA presently has a total fleet of 135 LRVs, including the 48 newly inaugurated third generation (3G) trains, increasing its capacity to serve 40,000 passengers per hour per direction.

systematica

February 22nd, 2007, 12:28 AM

tigidig14

February 22nd, 2007, 01:33 AM

wow ang saya magkano kaya pamasahe

diz

February 22nd, 2007, 02:09 AM

I wonder how they are going to work out the tracks connecting DPRK and ROK.

queetz@home

February 22nd, 2007, 07:41 AM

bustero

February 22nd, 2007, 08:18 AM

^^Going around that Monumento is the controversial part, With this plan since it's just a track makes it much simpler as only a quarter view is covered.

Don't know the name of the station but I know where they are.
1 near SMcity, 1 near Munoz, 1 near Balintawak, and 1 near monumento.

queetz@home

February 22nd, 2007, 08:51 AM

^^ You know, anybody who plays Simcity 4 Rush Hour must have dealt with extending elevated trains in a simulation and looking at that rail track, if they only demolish a teeny tiny portion of it (approximately the length of half an LRT1 trainset judging by the trains in the pic), it CAN be turned to the right where that right turn lane is. Or perhaps, they can create a single track spur so trains can still go through? A bit slow but doable, I suppose....

Ugh! All these speculation! Reminds me of that time before EDSA MRT was built and me and my friend were constantly discussing: How will they fit that thing at the EDSA Ortigas Flyovers.... ;)

KiBeN

February 22nd, 2007, 12:57 PM

^^ 4 ba yung stations? bakit 3 lang sa map? (Monumento, Balintawak, and Roosevelt)

thomasian

February 22nd, 2007, 03:06 PM

I have this card that I got last year...

It has a map of the LRTs and the MRT.

Guess what this card is and what the "S" stands for...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/card.jpg

This is the other side of the card...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/card_other-side.jpg

richard24

February 22nd, 2007, 03:08 PM

"S" syempre is for SOGO.. :)

thomasian

February 22nd, 2007, 03:23 PM

"S" syempre is for SOGO..

Ang ingay mo! Titingnan ko nga sana kung ano ang hula ng mga tao dito eh! :D

Anyway, that's a discount-card offering 22% discount for stay-awhile rates, 10% for all other room rates above 4hrs. and including overtime charges, and 10% for all F&B orders just in case gusto nyong kumain doon. :colgate:

It's funny how a Sogo discount-card has an MRT and LRT map on one side, and a directory on the other. Unsuspecting people won't have a clue as to what that card is. hehehe

richard24

February 22nd, 2007, 03:27 PM

This is excellent news regarding LRT1's extension. It looks like the project is indeed moving along. So to refresh my memory, what are the four stations again?

I'm curious how they will integrate it with the tail track in Monumento. See the satellite map below how it looks like now....

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n122/queetz9/Miscellaneous/LRT1.jpg

btw, do they have to demolish some structures there?

oo nga no.. just like sim city4.. you cant make a sharp turn... maybe they still have to demolish some parts of the rail... to make the turn a bit bigger...

thomasian

February 22nd, 2007, 05:39 PM

FrancisXavier

February 23rd, 2007, 01:37 AM

btw, do they have to demolish some structures there?

oo nga no.. just like sim city4.. you cant make a sharp turn... maybe they still have to demolish some parts of the rail... to make the turn a bit bigger...

pwede naman siguro...try to google bangkok..an daming sharp turns ng skystrain nila..

AH-7Raja

February 23rd, 2007, 04:36 AM

Talking about trains....I think I heard this when I was in Thailand or read it somewhere else...

They are planning to build a railroad tracks from singapore all the way to Europe...Paris ...passing through Pakistan, India, turkey, etc.....

Just like to know if anyone here has an update on that...

Ha! Dito sa amin (RP business community) huli nayang balita nayan, mas may nauna pa sa aming nakapagisip nyan, naisip na namin ang Oriental Express and the Oriental Way.

ORIENTAL EXPRESS is a southeast asian super rail track network system that will start from Aparri, Philippines, and go looping around ASEAN peninsula via Palawan island, that may even end up to Europe. This will involve a whopping and more or less a $1.5 billion dollar investment for each southeast asian nations and others who are wanted to be part of it and benefit from it for tourism campaign. Ideally, it will have an interconnecting system to all ASEAN nations with an open options of continuing it further upto east & west asian hemisphere. The east asian passage will be from Aparri, Philippines to Taipei, then go further up to Hong Kong and to eastern mainland China, then from China to Korea, and then finally will end up to Fukuoka, Japan.

Meanwhile the ORIENTAL WAY is a similar network but by superhighway interconnection (Philippine exit point is through the Tawi-Tawi islands around Sulu Archipelago to connect with the rest of ASEAN), with aside from trade and commercial purposes, its other main purpose is for tourism specially for those who love to grab the road for a long driving pleasure.

These 2 projects will ofcourse involve tunnels, subways, and a lot of new engineering style and technic of building bridges, (suspension, draw, coastal, etc).

Again, like the NAIA conversion dream, this one is still in a studying phase, and no rendering yet.

:)

thomasian

February 23rd, 2007, 09:15 AM

^^ Pano mo pala nalaman? May discount card ka rin ano?!?! hmm... ikaw ha! :D

02.20.07

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/Photo_022007_024x.jpg

Elevator Shaft, Doroteo Jose - Southbound station
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/Photo_022007_025x.jpg

Pahabol na picture... same date
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/Photo_022007_023x.jpg

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02.20.07

LRT-1 EDSA Station, the newly built and connected (to the platform level) North-exit of the Southbound station

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/Photo_022007_010x.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/Photo_022007_011x.jpg

LRT-1 EDSA Station, connecting the u/c North-exit of the Southbound-station to the platform level.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/Photo_022007_008x.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/Photo_022007_012x.jpg

A northbound LRT-1 2G train leaving the EDSA station.
Notice that only 3/4 of the passengers waiting for a train boarded the 2G, the rest (including me) waited for the next train... because the 2Gs are notoriously known as "Sauna on rails". A must have gear for the 2G, pamaypay, you'll see a lot of 2G riders holding a pamaypay inside the train.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/Photo_022007_009x.jpg

"Tulo" sa MRT. Basa yung floor kasi tumutulo yung aircon.
San ka pa! Matapos mong magsauna sa 2G ng LRT-1, pwede ka namang magshower dito sa MRT. Coolness!!!!!!!! :D
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/Photo_021907_001x.jpg

thomasian

February 23rd, 2007, 05:12 PM

LRT-2 Pureza Station...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/Photo_022307_001x.jpg

Dati kasi nakalagay lang "PWD (Persons with disability) Elevator", kaya maraming normal persons na sumasakay. Ngayon "For strict compliance" na kasi maraming ayaw sumunod. After taking that pic, a bunch of students stepped out of the elevator, pasaway talaga mga pinoy!!! :hilarious

Mithril Cloud

February 23rd, 2007, 05:23 PM

Dapat palaparin na rin nila yung EDSA Station. Madalas kasi mangyari na hindi pa nakakalabas lahat ng pasahero may darating na kaagad na tren, lalong sumisikip.

Askal82

February 24th, 2007, 03:33 AM

nayki

February 24th, 2007, 03:44 AM

Dapat palaparin na rin nila yung EDSA Station. Madalas kasi mangyari na hindi pa nakakalabas lahat ng pasahero may darating na kaagad na tren, lalong sumisikip.

ung sa lrt edsa station ba tinutukoy mo? actually malapit na matapos ung ginagawa nilang bagong entry at exit, di na kasi nila pwedeng palaparin pa un kaya ang ginawa nila nagdadag sila ng panibagong entry at exit.:)

FrancisXavier

February 24th, 2007, 03:46 AM

That 'physically challenged' part sounds intriguing. I think they should also put restrictions on the 'mentally challenged' ones as well. :lol:

brigged na yung mentally challenged...:D

nayki

February 24th, 2007, 03:47 AM

malas ko kagabi sa lrt ung tren na nasakyan ko matagal nakatigil halfway edsa station at libertad, almost 1 hour kami sa loob ng tren. Nagkablack out daw kasi befer nun kaya nagkaron ng technical problems buti na lang aircon ung tren na nasakayan ko. Ang mahirap pa nun para kaming sardinas sa loob.

ryanr

February 24th, 2007, 08:59 AM

Sweet. Its about time they expand and modernize line 1's stations.:)

richard24

February 24th, 2007, 10:08 AM

Askal82

February 24th, 2007, 10:20 AM

kadalasan nag-eelevator talaga ako pag paakyat ng station... ayoko nga mag hagdan! :lol: hehehehe... pag paakyat na ng platform, sa escalator nako...

What a stupid and useless rule. Its like saying not to use the elevator at all even you don't see people around who are physically challenged. It's much better if they simply ask the people to give them the priority to use the elevator instead like the way they give the seat to the ladies in the busses or trains. There's a reason why the elevator is there.

Mithril Cloud

February 24th, 2007, 11:15 AM

^^ That's how things are at Santolan station. No idea why it is different over there in Pureza.

richard24

February 24th, 2007, 11:18 AM

^^ meron din niyan sa santolan... actualy sa lahat ng station ata...

oo nga... ala naman laging disabled eh... pag meron, sila naman talaga ang priority...

i remember once sa cubao station when a man in a wheel chair was having some trouble kung pano sha bababa dahil the elevator was not working then... i dunno what happend to him,..

FrancisXavier

February 24th, 2007, 11:44 AM

binuhat mo sana... :colgate:

pano nga pala yung mga naka wheel chair sa line1..diba, hindi level yung floor ng train sa platform?

richard24

February 24th, 2007, 12:20 PM

^^ binuhat ata siya nung mga employees ng LRT... may nakita nakong ganun sa santolan nung sira pa ung elevator eh...

metrosuburban

February 24th, 2007, 11:17 PM

at pag nasa platform na sila, papano naman sasakay sa train yung naka-wheel chair kung sobrang crowded pag rush hours???

crappypants

February 25th, 2007, 01:33 AM

oh my god parusa yang mga hagdan sa mga mrt kung walang elevator, para kang aakyat ng mga bundok ang tataas.

Sinjin P.

February 26th, 2007, 04:29 AM

Swiss challenge for $1.2-B MRT-7
PANEL RECOMMENDS GETTING OF BIDS FOR UNIVERSAL L.R.T. TO MATCH

By Lenie Lectura
Reporter

THE bids and awards committee for railway transportation projects formally recommended Saturday the conduct of a Swiss challenge for the estimated $1.23 billion Metro Rail Transit-7 (MRT-7).

The route runs 23 kilometers from the MRT-3 North Avenue station in Quezon City to Commonwealth Avenue, Regalado Avenue, Quirino Avenue extension up to San Jose del Monte, Bulacan. It will have 14 stations that will be connected to a 22-km access road, which is part of the project.

The recommendation, made to Transportation Secretary Leandro Mendoza, paves the way for the publication of the invitation to bid for what is touted to be the biggest infrastructure project yet of the Arroyo administration.

The resolution was signed and approved by Mendoza on February 24, 2007. The seven-member committee is chaired by Elmer Soneja.

The Department of Transportation and Communications will evaluate the proposals for at least 30 days. Universal LRT Corp., the project proponent, has 30 days to match the offer of any interested party.

Universal LRT has submitted an unsolicited proposal to finance, design, construct, operate and maintain the MRT Line7 project under a build, gradual transfer, operate and maintain scheme, a variant of the build-operate-transfer contractual arrangement.

If, for some reason, there are no challengers, the government will finalize a contract with Universal LRT, a consortium led by EL International Holdings, a member of the EL Group of Companies of Hong Kong.

Company chief executive officer Eli Levin has said that given the magnitude of the investment and the stringent requirements of the government, he doubts their proposal will be matched. They will finance the project from a combination of debt and equity. “There will be a $309-million equity investment and $926-million debt.”

Of the $926 million, Levin said $126 million will be in a form of untied loans to finance the civil works portion of the project. A number of foreign banks have expressed interest to facilitate the loan. The remaining $800 million will be sourced from Export Credit Agencies.

The $309-million equity will be equally shouldered by the contractors, multilateral institutions such as the Asian Development Bank and World Bank and real-estate developers.

The closing of the financial requirements is expected to happen 18 months after the contract is awarded to Universal LRT, said Levin. “If we can have the final contract signed by June this year then we could start construction at the end of 2008 and finished it by mid-2012.”

Under the proposed contract, the government will support the project by making a total of $108 million in advance payments to Universal LRT for 10 years.

The project has a real-estate component to allow the government to recover the subsidy it would provide.

stephencua

February 26th, 2007, 06:31 AM

taken from abs-cbnnews.com..

EDSA MRT’s success

HIDDEN AGENDA
By MARY ANN LL. REYES

Those "mysterious" advertorials which came out in major dailies recently about the need to expand and extend the light rail transit system along EDSA, or EDSA MRT, caught the eyes of our media colleagues in our coffee shop circles.

The group, which calls itself "EDSA para sa Masa" is urging President Arroyo to implement what appears to be shelved plans for the expansion and extension of the EDSA MRT. The group says it fears the plans will be buried deeper in the onslaught of the political season and warns that the current efficiency of the system may not be sustained if the expansion and extension plans are not started right away.

The group raised very important points.

But of course, the coffee session has to begin with speculations on what this group really is and who is behind it.

The "EDSA para sa Masa" claims in its advertisements that it defended the EDSA MRT project 10 years ago when there was strong opposition to the project. Some of our media colleagues swear they have a vague recollection of such a group. They recall that there was, indeed, a major organized effort 10 years ago by another group called "Save EDSA Movement" to torpedo the project which was an infrastructure showcase of the Ramos administration.

The "Save EDSA Movement", our colleagues remember, was spearheaded by the homeowners associations of some of the affluent subdivisions along EDSA. Their serious objection to the EDSA MRT project was mainly anchored on the inconvenience that their enclaves might experience due to an elevated rail system. They wanted the system set up along C-5 instead.

For a while, our colleagues recall, the Ramos administration almost caved in and appeared ready to shelve the EDSA MRT project for fear of the wrath of an inconvenienced affluent class.

Then, our colleagues remember, came the "EDSA para sa Masa". The group, they continue, confronted the "Save EDSA Movement" and put forward arguments that EDSA, as its name denotes, is "for the masses".

Our colleagues cannot recall the details of the debate between the two, but they remember that the position and arguments of the "Save EDSA Movement" appeared to have weakened in the aftermath of the "EDSA para sa Masa" offensive.

It was a classic public debate with the latter enjoying a clear advantage because it purported to represent the interest "of the masses", our elderly coffee pals recall.

The coffee shop gang, however, is of the consensus that whether or not this is the same group which championed the EDSA MRT cause 10 years ago is beside the point. Regardless of who are behind the group, the new cause raised is a valid one: yes, the EDSA MRT has to expand and extend, or lose its value to the commuters of EDSA.

In more ways than one, the EDSA MRT is, to say the least, a success story. It will be recalled that before the system was set up, traveling along EDSA was one big nightmare. Especially if one took the bus or the colorum jeepneys which plied the thoroughfare.

It was faster then to fly from Manila to Hong Kong than to take the bus from, say, Roosevelt Avenue in Quezon City to Taft Avenue in Pasay City. That would have been a two-hour ordeal. And the ordeal includes inhaling the toxic emissions coming from the diesel-fed buses along the route.

For 400,000 daily commuters taking the EDSA MRT (EDSA para sa Masa was exaggerating when it said half a million), that ordeal was a thing of the past. The trip now takes only 30 minutes. The coaches are air-conditioned so even the gusot-mayaman crowd toiling in the business districts of Ortigas and Makati take the EDSA MRT.

Our colleagues recall that the plan of the Ramos administration then was to drastically reduce the number of buses plying along EDSA.

We are not quite sure the government has succeeded in doing that. Land Transportation Office (LTO) records show, however, that in 2000, the year the EDSA MRT service began, there were 11,121 diesel-fed buses registered in Metro Manila, most of which probably plied EDSA.

In 2004, that figure went down to 10,928 buses. We do not have the updated figures yet, but it may be safe to assume the number may have somehow gone down. We cannot conclusively say that the apparent attrition is the result of the efficient EDSA MRT. But it is safe to say the number of buses can be brought down even lower because there is a dependable light rail transit system running along EDSA.

A check with the DOTC shows that commuters wait between six to seven minutes on the platform for their train to arrive. That is not a bad waiting time. Some friends recall waiting for close to 15 minutes for their train in the underground Metro system in Los Angeles on a Sunday.

We encourage the EDSA para sa Masa to exercise some modesty and not claim total credit for the success of the EDSA MRT. Sure, they fought for it. But if the system is running efficiently today, despite the shelving of the expansion and extension plans, the DOTC should get major credit.

This is not to discourage the group to continue their advocacy. There are many citizens groups worldwide, such as Australia’s Light Rail Transit Association, which seeks to propagate the expansion and use of train systems.

We hope to see a face behind the group in the future. It should not be shy – it is espousing a worthy cause.

In the meantime, we join the call: let’s have an EDSA light rail transit system that reaches up to Monumento.

queetz@home

February 26th, 2007, 09:28 AM

^^ I agree that it would be nice if this group would show their faces since I would really really really want to join them. But with regards to this comment...

But if the system is running efficiently today, despite the shelving of the expansion and extension plans, the DOTC should get major credit.

NO! The DOTC had the audacity to proposed that ridiculous stand alone ENT! They are a bunch of bureacratic f*ck ups that help prevent the extension of the MRT3 to Monumento at the first place because of their never ending legal mumbo jumbo! If the DOTC had their way, my God! We would be SO SCREWED with ENT, which is so ill conceieved, stupid, dreadful, and just plain wrong!

Thank goodness GMA stepped in and decided to hand over the responsibility of closing the Monumento-SM North gap to the LRTA! Even though the riders would probably need to transfer in the SM North Station, at least they can have a one seat ride if coming from SM North to Bacoor! Or perhaps, if the government somehow buys out the MRT3 itself from the MRTC, we can have a one seat ride from Taft Avenue, around the entire EDSA, then all the way to Bacoor!

This is something the DOTC failed to think off. Something as basic as eliminating the ridiculous transfers that is so damn inconvenient and tiring! All those bureacratic jackasses in the DOTC that have the audacity to even consider ENT should be FIRED! :mad2:

ishtefh_03

February 27th, 2007, 06:00 AM

Sabi dati na yung gagawin na lines sa may SM north pa monumento eh, subway daw??

queetz@home

February 27th, 2007, 06:05 AM

^^ Obviously the group, Edsa para sa Masa, is worried, and rightfully so, that once again, the extension to close the gap between SM North and Monumento would be stalled due to political mumbo jumbo. And its not beyond the realm of possibility because of all these anti-GMA jackasses (i.e. Geniune Opposition ppl) who are the worse examples of crab mentality the world has ever seen! :rant:

vince_rilian

February 27th, 2007, 09:53 PM

^^you mean the best examples of crab mentality and the worst examples of cooperation... hehehe....

sana di gaano maraming tao sa MRT sa saturday, luluwas pa kasi ako para lang bumili ng aking gagamitin for thesis...

kikodj

March 1st, 2007, 07:30 PM

bumabaha dun sa monumento panong subway? umm ask ko yung LRT office kung merong plans na irenovate yung monumento terminal ng LRTA... ala daw plans... yun lang hehehehehe("j) thesis ko dapat... sabaw e...("j)

SKYLINEPIGEON

March 3rd, 2007, 07:59 AM

akala ko ba iccoconect yon doon sa ginagawang main station ng north rail malapit na sa ue caloocan

ishtefh_03

March 3rd, 2007, 10:17 AM

^^siguro connect na lang yun... matanong nga ang aking kuya who works on LRT... :D

nayki

March 6th, 2007, 02:23 PM

Napapansin ko halos araw2 ang technical problem sa LRT1, kaninang umaga nalate 2loy ako sa work.

le Reine

March 6th, 2007, 02:38 PM

^what do you mean "technical problem?" Ano sa LRT1 yung nasira? Wala lang, ngayon ko lang kasi narinig na may problem sa LRT1. Kung sa MRT yan hindi na ako magtataka.

nayki

March 6th, 2007, 02:50 PM

^^oo technical problem, halos parati my nasisirang tren hindi 2loy makagalaw ung ibang tren. Pag hindi tren nagkakaron naman ng power interuption, halos araw2 talaga nangyayari ung sira ngayon. Bukas nga iiba na ako ng route eh nadadala na ako.

normandb

March 7th, 2007, 01:10 AM

Galit ako sa LRT1. Ilan beses ako na-late dahil dito. everyweek na lang natyetyempuhan ko may sira. Malas talaga. sana naman wag na gamitin yong tren na laging nasisira. Gusto ko magmura ng malakas kaya lang hindi naman pwede baka masuntok ang fez ko ng katabi ko isipin nya sya minumura ko. Di talaga maaasahan ang LRT1.

portludlow

March 7th, 2007, 05:49 AM

EDSA MRT woesHIDDEN AGENDA
By Mary Ann Ll. Reyes
The Philippine Star 03/07/2007
http://www.philstar.com/philstar/NEWS200703070712.htm

No, this column is not about to take back its word. Last week, we said the EDSA MRT – that 16-plus-kilometer-long light rail transit along the former Highway 54 – has so far been successful in providing close to 450,000 passengers daily with efficient and comfortable transport mode.

We stick to that premise.

That was also the view of that mysterious "civic group" EDSA Para sa Masa. The group said the Department of Transportation and Communications (DOTC) has done a good job in running the EDSA MRT, and has so far prevented the system from early deterioration- the bane of the country’s transportation industry. The group is correct in so far as good operations and management is concerned. And the DOTC feat is being used as a platform for the clamor for additional train coaches and for the long-awaited extension of EDSA MRT from North Triangle to Monumento.

But it appears the rosy picture is just one side of the story. There is another angle to the issue. And it seems the EDSA Para sa Masa may have deliberately skipped the less-than-rosy part of the story.

Since we published that piece on the success of the EDSA MRT last week, readers and media colleagues have been pushing us to ask this question: Would the government have the kind of money required for the purchase of additional EDSA MRT trains and for the extension of the system to Monumento?

So, we did pop up the question to our sources in the transportation sector. At this point, the answer appears to be a resounding "No!". There is no money to fund the aspiration of the EDSA Para sa Masa. Sorry, guys. You dream expensive dreams.

The view that the government has no money for extension and expansion has been largely fueled by reports that it is actually unable to pay the monthly lease on the EDSA MRT system. And the arrears are rumored to be about a year old.

If the government can’t pay lease obligations, how can it aspire to extend the system?

The arrears are reportedly owed to that large private consortium which funded the construction of the system some 10 years ago. If our sources are correct, the government owes that group some $190 million which the group needs to recover over a 25-year period from the monthly lease payments that the government is supposed to remit.

That’s the one that has not been paid for about a year now.

The government has to pay those monthly lease obligations because the system was set up under the build-lease-transfer scheme. The consortium built it; the government is leasing it; and the consortium has to transfer ownership to the government after the 25-year lease period. That is, if the government is able to promptly comply with payment obligations.

So, that’s the challenge to the aspiration of the EDSA Para sa Masa. Government is struggling with monthly lease payments. How can it even dream of buying more coaches or extending the line for another six kilometers?

But the group should not despair (so should the other less "mysterious" commuters who do not belong to this group).

Our resource persons in the transportation and finance sectors say there is a way out of this stumbling block. They call it "refinancing".

Here’s how it could work. Our sources say the cost of the $190 million which the government owes the private consortium is something like 15 to 18 percent per annum. Those were the borrowing rates at the time the Ramos government was pushing the EDSA MRT project.

But wait. Things are different today. The government, our sources point out, can actually borrow money from the international financial sector at much, much, much lower rates – say, six to eight percent per annum.

The much, much lower rates are the happy result of the confluence of positive events, among them, the country’s good revenue generation record (take a bow, Secretary Gary Teves and BIR Commissioner Jose Mario Buñag); the strong peso; and the overall good reputation that the country is enjoying, thanks to the "bitter pill" we swallowed (otherwise called expanded value added tax).

So, one option is for the government to borrow at 10 percent less than the current cost of money at which it is leasing the EDSA MRT. Then, pre-pay its obligation to the private consortium. It will then need less money for the remainder of the 25-year lease period (15 years, more or less). The savings, our sources computed, would be enough to fund the extension of the line from North Triangle to Monumento.

We are no financial expert so we still need second opinions to determine the soundness of this approach. But we do hope our DOTC officials would consider such option. The government is on a prepayment binge; it would do no harm to include the EDSA MRT obligation in the prepayment bundle.

This way, EDSA commuters can continue to enjoy the efficiency and convenience of the EDSA MRT – from Taft Avenue to Monumento.

All EDSA commuters, for that matter. "Masa" or otherwise.

kikodj

March 7th, 2007, 11:09 AM

pangit ang maintenance ng LRTA ala pang aircon yung mga (2g) farting sheep!

richard24

March 7th, 2007, 11:28 AM

hindi ko lang sure kung napost ko to... wala lang...

http://i16.tinypic.com/2n7igc8.jpg

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ung mga technical problem na yan.., madalas din sa LRT2... malas lang pag may tech prob at late nako..

arki_adaycompany

March 8th, 2007, 04:02 AM

Would anyone have information on the latest planned alignment of MRT 7?:)

Mithril Cloud

March 8th, 2007, 06:21 AM

pangit ang maintenance ng LRTA ala pang aircon yung mga (2g) farting sheep!

Hanapin mo yung parte ng tren na hindi bukas yung bintana. Pag bukas kasi bintana panigurado sira aircon dun sa parteng yun. Pwera na nga lang kung buong tren sira yung aircon. :ohno:

bagel

March 8th, 2007, 08:19 AM

Pag may parte ng tren na sira ang aircon, malamang mas konti ang pasahero kaya medyo mas maluwag kesa sa parte ng tren na may aircon.

thomasian

March 8th, 2007, 10:56 AM

^^ Kahit naman yung part ng tren (na 2G) na may aircon, di pa rin kalamigan, parang... wala lang.

brightblade

March 9th, 2007, 07:50 AM

Here's a headline on business world today. The bottom of the story says it all.

BY JUDY T. GULANE, Senior Reporter

Sustaining gains key RP challenge
Cebu City — The government may have notched fiscal successes but it now needs to ensure the gains are sustained and translated into investments that reduce poverty, the local World Bank representative yesterday said.

Speaking at the opening of the Philippines Development Forum (PDF), World Bank Country Director Joachim von Amsberg noted that while the country’s macroeconomic and fiscal environment has improved, "challenges lie ahead."

"Further improvements in tax collection are necessary to sustain the momentum of fiscal reforms," Mr. von Amsberg said.

"Despite some of the fiscal improvements and reasonable growth rates, the investment rate remains very low at under 15%. This is extraordinarily low and raises the question of sustainability of growth."

While respectable economic growth has been observed, its benefits have not created employment, raised incomes or cut poverty much faster.

"The recent economic improvements in the Philippines and the favorable international economic environment, notwithstanding most recent market nervousness, provide a very unique window of opportunity to address these challenges," Mr. von Amsberg said.

He also stressed that while much of the work will be done by the government, its development partners are ready to provide support.

"The agenda has now moved from fiscal reforms to sustaining the gains and raising investments," Mr. von Amsberg said in an interview.

"At the close of the forum, we will be presenting a list of doable, high-impact actions to achieve these goals."

Margarita R. Songco, deputy director general of the National Economic and Development Authority (NEDA), yesterday presented the government’s list of priority infrastructure projects that are open to financing by development partners.

Mr. von Amsberg said he was impressed by the presentation.

"I like the approach the government has taken, singling out a small number of projects, not because the others are not important, but to visibly show that a few high priority projects are moving."

He said the NEDA presentation generated "positive comments" and development partners are committed to financing some of them.

The World Bank, he said, is in advanced stages of talks over the Bicol Emergency Power Restoration Project and construction of Light Rail Transit Line 6.

Donald G. Dee, chairman of the Philippine Chamber of Commerce and Industry, said the government presented a "good list of investments".

"However, it must ensure that the bidding process is simple, transparent and consistent," he added.

The NEDA list includes:

the P1.1-billion Bicol Emergency Power Restoration Project, intended to repair facilities damaged last year by typhoon Reming;
P3.1-billion Palawan South Road to serve as the main trunk-line of Southern Palawan;
P2.7-billion Panguil Bay Bridge to serve as a transport link between Central and Northern Mindanao;
P870-million Biñan-Sucat Transmission Line Project to increase the existing line’s power transfer capacity;
P6.2-billion LRT Line 1 North Extension Project involving the construction of a 4.5-kilometer elevated line from the Monumento station to the North Avenue station of the Metro Rail Transit;
P4.5-billion Northrail-Southrail Linkage Projects, which involves the rehabilitation of the existing line into a double track railway and acquisition of a new train sets;
P35.5-billion LRT Line 6, which includes the extension of the existing line from Baclaran to Parañaque, Las Piñas and then to Bacoor, Imus and Dasmariñas in Cavite;
P7.9-billion Agno River Integrated Irrigation Project which will rehabilitate the Agno River Irrigation System and the Ambayaoan-Dipalo River Irrigation System;
P19.4-billion North Luzon Expressway Extension Project which involves the construction of a 84.5-kilometer road, 12 interchanges and toll collection facilities and bridges crossing the Agno and Bued Rivers; and
the P1.6-billion Quirino Highway Project, which includes the improvement and rehabilitation of the existing road.
Trade Secretary Peter B. Favila yesterday said negotiations are now ongoing with the Korean government for the Northrail-Southrail Linkage Project.

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Story Location: http://www.bworldonline.com/BW030907/content.php?id=001

bustero

March 9th, 2007, 08:19 AM

Lotsa press in the past few days on this. Hope they can close some! These are all big hi priority projects GMA want's accomplished in her presidency as she said in her SONA. It's quite clear the old original LRT line is the main priority, basically line 6 is an extension and the northern extension to SM city also lrt1. Interesting counterpoint to A.Reyes article above on the lack of funding to pay for existing obligations for the mrt.

esagerato

March 9th, 2007, 08:37 AM

Bwisit talaga ang LRT Line 1 na yan. Nasiraan na naman ng isang tren kahapon. Ayun stranded kami sa tayuman... nakakaasar talaga. Pag-uwi ko tuloy sa bahay napagalitan na ko, akala tuloy naglakwasta ako.. tsk..tsk..tsk..
Pano kasi karamihan sa mga tren ay bulok na, wala pa nga sa kalahati ang pinalitan nila ng bago. Minsan naman pagpasok mo, sobrang init at walang aircon.. hayy...

MAXTON

March 9th, 2007, 08:55 AM

Ilang insidente na ba nauulit yang siraan ng mga tren?

bustero

March 9th, 2007, 09:06 AM

nasa na ba ang mga bagong tren???

esagerato

March 9th, 2007, 09:17 AM

Ilang insidente na ba nauulit yang siraan ng mga tren?

based sa experience ko, hindi lang once nangyari sa'kin yan, ilang beses na..

stephencua

March 9th, 2007, 10:37 AM

i wish that they would create a walkway for the buendia station of the MRT.. when the lines are very long, people cant pass from one side of edsa to another.. i was stuck in the jam packed station yesterday and it was really bad..

bustero

March 9th, 2007, 12:46 PM

^^What do you mean. I've been there but a couple times but from what I remember you can walk through the station then through some elevated pedestrian walkways. Are you saying you should not pass through the station!

bustero

March 9th, 2007, 12:47 PM

New Thread Boys and Girls.

Just to continue Viva Tomasino was bitching about the constantly broken trains, while Stephencua was bitching about the Buendia MRT station.http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=12084110#post12084110

The Metro Manila MRT/LRT Thread VII

1Metro Manila MRT/LRT Lines I (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=96027)
2Metro Manila MRT/LRT Lines II (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=193651)
3Metro Manila MRT/LRT Lines III (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=290046)
4Metro Manila MRT/LRT Lines IV (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=337196)
5Metro Manila MRT/LRT Lines V (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=337192)
6Metro Manila MRT/LRT Lines VI (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=417988)

bustero

March 9th, 2007, 12:50 PM

Ooops I just noticed we're over 500 please go to Thread 7

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=12084082#post12084082

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kikodj

March 9th, 2007, 01:03 PM

Hanapin mo yung parte ng tren na hindi bukas yung bintana. Pag bukas kasi bintana panigurado sira aircon dun sa parteng yun. Pwera na nga lang kung buong tren sira yung aircon. :ohno:

wag mo naman ikalat sa iba, di alam ng iba na meron part na malamig("j)

ryanr

March 10th, 2007, 09:02 AM

today's philstar:
LRT 6, NLEX get top priority for int’l funding
By Ted P. Torres
The Philippine Star 03/10/2007

Two transport infrastructure projects have been identified as the most important among the 10 prority projects presented by the National Government for funding or assistance from international agencies.

In an electronic press briefing held yesterday at the World Bank head office in Pasig, Finance Secretary Margarito Teves said that the two top projects for external funding are the 35.474-billion LRT Line 6 project — the southward extension of LRT Line 1 to Cavite —and the P3.013-billion North Luzon Expressway (NLEX) expansion project.

"But if possible, it would be best to retain the 10 priority projects since the decision to be made by the investors and proponents will take some time, and there will still be discussions and approvals sought with the Investment Coordinating Council ," Teves said from the conference site in Cebu.

Teves was Philippine Development Forum (PDF) conference in Cebu along with representatives of national government agencies, local government units (LGUs), as well as representatives of international funding agencies such as the World Bank, Asian Development Bank (ADB), Japan Bank for International Cooperation (JBIC) and International Finance Corp. (IFC).

The other eight priority projects that the Philippine government hopes to market for international lending or financing are: the P1.115-billion Bicol Emergency Power Restoration Project; the P3.575-billion Angat Water Utilization Improvement project, Phase 2; the P1.621-billion Quirino Highway project; the P3.13 billion Palawan South Road project; the P19.35-billion North Luzon Expressway Extension project; the P4.52-billion Northrail-Southrail Linkage project; the P2.67-billion Panguil Bay Bridge project; and the P6.206 billion LRT Line 1 North extension project, which closes the MRT-LRT loop.

The aggregate cost of the 10 priority projects amounts to about P80.67 billion.

For his part, World Bank country director Joachim von Amsberg said funding agencies prefer to concentrate on "doable" priority projects rather than work on a host of proposals.

queetz@home

March 10th, 2007, 09:04 AM

^^ Oooh! I like I like! I am SO gonna try to ride the LRT1 from SM North to Bacoor once its completed. Be nice if they start building already though. The anxiety of waiting is getting too much....

Mithril Cloud

March 10th, 2007, 01:21 PM

Just experienced the "technical problems" that the LRT1's been experiencing a lot lately yesterday. Are they slacking off on the maintenance of older trains just because they have new rolling stock? :ohno:

richard24

March 11th, 2007, 02:26 PM

Luzon gets P220B in infra deals

Gov't approves 10 new projects

By Tonette Orejas
Central Luzon Desk
Last updated 07:23pm (Mla time) 03/11/2007

CITY OF SAN FERNANDO--AT LEAST 10 new projects worth P20 billion have been added to the Luzon Urban Beltway super region.

This increased the total infrastructure investments in four regions to P220 billion, said LUB chief Edgardo Pamintuan.

Pamintuan said the additional projects being coordinated by the LUB are the Daang Hari-South Luzon Expressway Line Road, Cavite-Laguna (Cala) North-SLEX (Stage 1), C6 Lakeshore Expressway, North Luzon East Expressway (NLEE), Southern Tagalog Arterial Road (Star) 2, Edsa Rehabilitation Project, SouthRail Project Phase 1-A, LRT Line 1 Naia Connector, MRT 7, and the MWSS Angat Water Utilization Aqueduct.

He said Secretary Cerge Remonde, chief of the Presidential Management Staff, had informed him that the LUB would oversee these new projects, which leaders in the private sector identified during the National Competitive Summit in October last year.

These brought to 25 the total projects being coordinated within the LUB, which covers Central Luzon, Metro Manila, Calabarzon (Cavite, Laguna, Batangas, Rizal and Quezon) and Marinduque and Occidental and Oriental Mindoro.

The LUB accounts for 55 percent of the country's gross domestic project, hosts 30 percent of the national population and 30 percent of the total labor force.

The 15 projects now under the LUB represent the bulk of the P372-billion budget earmarked for all five super regions.

Pamintuan assured the public of "full transparency" and that the projects were being undertaken at the "very least cost to the government."

"Our task is to orchestrate and fast-track the delivery of these projects. We're getting all the implementing agencies and stakeholders together to work as one to ensure the immediate completion of the projects," he said.

He allayed the fears of the group Edsa Para sa Masa that the mid-term elections would delay the P6.4-billion Light Rail Transit (LRT) 1 North Extension project that links the railway to the Metro Rail Transit (MRT).

President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had given clear instructions to have the LRT-MRT link finished before 2010, he said.

The 5.4-kilometer link will connect the MRT and LRT lines in Metro Manila.http://business.inquirer.net/money/breakingnews/view_article.php?article_id=54163

stephencua

March 12th, 2007, 02:27 AM

^^ you beat me to posting that article.. i am very intrigued on any news on that LRT-NAIA connector... hope we hear more in the coming days..

@bustero - yes i am bitching about the MRT buendia walkway/station.. but what else can i do but bitch about it.. hahaha

esagerato

March 12th, 2007, 07:07 AM

esagerato

March 13th, 2007, 05:12 AM

queetz@home

March 13th, 2007, 05:38 AM

^^ I don't think closing down LRT1 just because of a few breakdowns is a good thing. No transportation system is perfect and the LRTA is doing everything it can to extend its reach for more and more commuters. They should really expand the line even more, which would ensure having less wear and tear on the present rolling stock.

bustero

March 13th, 2007, 06:41 AM

As usual kagabi nasiraan na naman ang LRT Line 1, grabe halos 1 hour kaming nasa loob ng train dahil yung nasa unahang train ang nasiraan. Hindi naman kami makababa dahil wala pa kami mismo dun sa station. This time, sandamukal na pasahero ang galit na galit at kinuyog yung dealer at security guards. Kawawa naman sila, wala naman silang kinalaman dun. Pero hindi mo naman masisisi ang mga pasahero, dahil maraming beses na raw kasing nangyari ang ganitong technical problems at palagi silang naaabala.

Kagabi ito yung narinig ko sa mga kasabay kong bumaba ng train..

P!&#ng Ina nyo! Magsara na kayo! Mga P.I. ninyo! Pinagmumura ng mga pasahero yung dealer pati na ang mga security guards.

Wow grabe pala ito. Dapat masabihan na ang media at mga authorities kung araw araw na lang ganito ito. Napuna ko nga na puro problema ang nararanasan mo dito. I did not realize it was so bad. I thought this line was doing well and they have new equipment too. Plus if the train is going to be stuck an hour they should already let the passengers out, I can't imagine being stuck in those trains na dikidikit kayo ng isang oras!

ryanr

March 13th, 2007, 06:45 AM

Sue SNC-Lavalin! Just kidding:D but they should really do something about the system's unreliability.

esagerato

March 13th, 2007, 07:08 AM

Wow grabe pala ito. Dapat masabihan na ang media at mga authorities kung araw araw na lang ganito ito. Napuna ko nga na puro problema ang nararanasan mo dito. I did not realize it was so bad. I thought this line was doing well and they have new equipment too. Plus if the train is going to be stuck an hour they should already let the passengers out, I can't imagine being stuck in those trains na dikidikit kayo ng isang oras!

Last night, pinababa kaagad yung mga pasahero sa nasiraang train, pero kami, di kami nakababa kaagad, kasi yung nasa unahang train namin yung nasiraan, wala pa kami dun sa mismong station, sa Pedro Gil station nangyari yun..

amras

March 13th, 2007, 07:40 AM

lately lang ba nangyayari ang ganito? yung mga lumang trains lang ba ang affected o pati yung mga brand new din?

esagerato

March 13th, 2007, 08:23 AM

lately lang ba nangyayari ang ganito? yung mga lumang trains lang ba ang affected o pati yung mga brand new din?

Sa experience ko, laging yung lumang trains ang nasisira.

Mithril Cloud

March 13th, 2007, 12:40 PM

Tinamad na ata magmaintain ng lumang tren dahil sa 3G. :bash:

nayki

March 13th, 2007, 03:25 PM

Pag nasisira kasi isa lang sa mga lumang tren affected lahat ng byahe humihinto..

richard24

March 14th, 2007, 04:27 AM

nako... ganayan din sa LRT2.. pero di naman ganyan kalala... mga mostly 15 minutes kang stuck sa loob ng train.. or parang pagong siya kung umandar... or sometimes, ang pinakaaasar ko., eh ung bigla na lang siyang magbbreak!!! tapos sandamukal na PI ang maririnig mo., nasubsob pako 1 time.. hehehe... :lol: la lang...

pero ibang usapan pag rainy season... mas nagloloko ang LRT2.

Sinjin P.

March 14th, 2007, 09:10 AM

LRT riders rise 6% to 9.42 million in February
By Lennie Lectura
Reporter

THE Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA) on Tuesday said ridership last February rose by 6 percent to 9.42 million as against 8.88 million in the same period last year.

LRTA administrator Mel Robles attributed this to the availability of more trains that were made available to the public.

Robles said 83 LRVs (light rail vehicles) were deployed during peak hours in the morning and 86 in the afternoon, compared with the 70 LRVs available and running last year.

Morning peak starts from 7 a.m. to 9 a.m. while afternoon peak starts from 5 p.m. to 7 p.m.

“It has always been our firm commitment to make available more trains to the public. That is why we are maintaining the availability of at least 25 trains on peak hours and an average of 22 trains per 17 hours of operation for the Line 1 system and 12 train sets per 17 hours of operation for the Line 2 system,” Robles said in a statement.

Robles also announced that ridership and revenue for its Line 1 system, which spans from Baclaran to Monumento, has reached a record high of 402,055 passengers translating into a net fare revenue of P5,664,808 for a single regular day on March 2, 2007.

“Usually our highest ridership occurs on days falling under special occasions like the Feast of the Black Nazarene. But despite the fact that there was no special occasion, our ridership was very high on that day,” Robles said.

Robles also attributed the said achievement to the availability of more trains. On that day, 28 trains, including 3G trains, or 94 LRVs were fielded during the morning peak, while 26 trains or 87 LRVs serviced Line 1 during the afternoon peak.

“The ridership trend is increasing if we look at our previous three years record. On the feast of the Black Nazarene in January 9 alone we drew around 432,591 passengers to the Line 1 system, compared to last year’s celebration which attracted around 428,845 passengers” Robles added.

queetz@home

March 14th, 2007, 09:16 AM

Sinjin P.

March 14th, 2007, 10:34 AM

LRT-1

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LRT-2

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Mithril Cloud

March 14th, 2007, 12:17 PM

^^ Awesome awesome awesome!!! See what a great system the LRT1 and pretty much any rail transit system is? All the more reason it should be expanded so we can get people out of cars and into transit.... :rock:

They should work more on maintenance first. The frequent train breakdowns could turn off current and potential riders. :ohno:

queetz@home

March 14th, 2007, 01:46 PM

^^ They are working on maintenance, hence why we have a new set of trains. But the problem won't be solved overnight...

Mithril Cloud

March 14th, 2007, 04:48 PM

Of course. But the problem's with the older trains, not the new ones.

ryanr

March 15th, 2007, 08:22 AM

^^ Awesome awesome awesome!!! See what a great system the LRT1 and pretty much any rail transit system is? All the more reason it should be expanded so we can get people out of cars and into transit.... :rock:

just wondering, at what point will you sell your car and ride transit queetz? After the completion of the MRT 3 extention? perhaps MRT 6 or 7?:D

But anyways, great to see more people riding transit.

queetz@home

March 15th, 2007, 10:09 AM

^^ If I ever get a condo near an MRT Line. That is why I am monitoring that GA Skysuites thread like crazy (unless I somehow make enough money to buy at St Francis). Of course for the interim, I just park at Edsa Shangrila.... ;)

esagerato

March 16th, 2007, 03:42 AM

Guess what, kung ano na naman ang kapalpakan ng LRT 1 kagabi? :cry:

Askal82

March 16th, 2007, 05:56 AM

Oh wow, these frequent LRT breakdowns are no-joke.

pau_p1

March 16th, 2007, 10:04 AM

yeah.. I heard.. my officemate relates that the breakdowns are occurring almost everyday...

queetz@home

March 16th, 2007, 10:15 AM

^^ Well, GreyX, although jokingly, was right. Its the builder, SNC Lavalin's fault and they should bear the blame for all these breakdowns. :D

Mithril Cloud

March 16th, 2007, 03:00 PM

Isn't the PNCC the ones that built the LRT Line 1 and not SNC-Lavalin?

queetz@home

March 16th, 2007, 09:17 PM

^^ I know SNC Lavalin was heavily involved and at one point, the original LRT1 project (including some cool pics of the construction) was in their official website as one of their "completed" projects. Perhaps both SNC Lavalin and PNCC were two of the many contractors that were involved in the project, each having a specific role.

pau_p1

March 19th, 2007, 03:12 AM

do we have new updates on MRT7?

Sinjin P.

March 20th, 2007, 02:55 AM

CA tells LRTA to pay P21M to Banco Filipino
By Joel R. San Juan
Reporter

THE Court of Appeals has ordered the government-owned and controlled corporation Light Rail Transit Authority to abide by the ruling of the Manila Regional Trial Court to pay Banco Filipino Savings and Mortgage Bank Inc., the amount of P21.4 million as just compensation for the bank’s property expropriated for the right of way of the authority’s second rail line in 1998.

The 11th Division rejected the LRTA’s argument the lower court-appointed commissioners tasked to determine just compensation for the expropriated property had adopted the wrong principle in assessing the value of the property. The decision writer was Associate Justice Jose Sabio Jr.

He said, “The report of the commission tasked to determine just compensation for the expropriated property were based on uncontroverted facts supported by documentary evidence and confirmed by their ocular inspection of the property.

“As can be gleaned from the records, they did not abuse their authority in evaluating the evidence submitted to them; neither did they misappreciate the clear preponderance of evidence. The amount. . . has not been grossly exorbitant or otherwise unjustified.”

In its argument on appeal, the LRTA also claimed the board of commissioners erred when it determined the valuation of the subject property using only the averaging method by simply adding the valuations of the defendant, appellant, and technical people of the assessor’s office of the Manila City Hall and then computed its average without even giving the parties the methodology as well as the authenticity of the reports submitted by the commissioners.

The LRTA also claimed it was not given the opportunity to rebut the reports submitted by the respondent.

The CA said, however, that hearings are not necessary in expropriation proceedings as long as fair and reasonable opportunity to be heard before the order to pay compensation is issued.

The appellate court noted that based on the records of the case, the parties were given an equal chance to submit their comments on the case and were allowed to rebut each other’s assertions.

Concurring in the decision were Associate Justices Jose Reyes and Myrna Dimaranan Vidal.

Source: Business Mirror
http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/03202007/headlines08.html

3cr

March 21st, 2007, 03:49 AM

MRT to buy 30 more coaches
Malaya
http://www.malaya.com.ph/mar21/busi3.htm

Robert John L. Sobrepena, Fil-Estate Corp. chairman, yesterday said the Metro Rail Transit will buy an additional 30 coaches for the MRT-2 system that runs along Edsa.

Fil-Estate owns 29 percent of the rail system.

Sobrepena said a total of three foreign companies are eager to bid for the supply of the coaches estimated at $55 million.

Sobrepena said there is an urgent need to increase the capacity of the MRT system. Its runs over its daily capacity of 350,000 passengers by almost one-third or 130,000 more.

"This leads to problems due to over capacity, generating higher maintenance costs and even possible breakdown of the train system eventually, if not addressed," said Sobrepena.

With the arrival of additional coaches, the MRT would be running a four-coach per ride and will increase its passenger capacity to 650,000 passengers per day.

amras

March 21st, 2007, 04:14 AM

hmm... this is certainly a good news especially for those using the system. but the question is when will these new coaches arrive? And I thought that the company is losing money with MRT3? Where are they going to get the budget for the acquisition of these trains?

ramvingar

March 21st, 2007, 04:15 AM

^ I wonder if those trains will be brand new.

Whew! This page took forever to upload! How long did it take you to do all that up there, Sinjin?

lochinvar

March 21st, 2007, 04:24 AM

"Robert John L. Sobrepena, Fil-Estate Corp. chairman, yesterday said the Metro Rail Transit will buy an additional 30 coaches for the MRT-2 system that runs along Edsa."

I thought MRT-2 runs along Aurora Blvd. and MRT-3 runs along EDSA.

queetz@home

March 21st, 2007, 04:57 AM

^^ I'm sure its just a typo...

hmm... this is certainly a good news especially for those using the system. but the question is when will these new coaches arrive? And I thought that the company is losing money with MRT3? Where are they going to get the budget for the acquisition of these trains?

Who cares? As long as they do it! :okay:

ryanr

March 21st, 2007, 05:26 AM

I wonder who the three foreign companies are. It would be sweet if Siemens and Rotem are among them.

amras

March 21st, 2007, 05:31 AM

^^ I'm sure its just a typo...

Who cares? As long as they do it! :okay:

I do care, that's why I asked

queetz@home

March 21st, 2007, 05:32 AM

I wonder who the three foreign companies are. It would be sweet if Siemens and Rotem are among them.

^^ As long as one of them is not Bombardier. The MRT3 has enough problems as it is. :lol:

pau_p1

March 21st, 2007, 05:47 AM

ryanr

March 21st, 2007, 05:51 AM

hmmm... I hope that they add the same type of trains that MRT3 currently uses... so that all the trains on that line looks the same and they may be connected to the older trains.. to make 4 coaches for every train..

I don't actually like to see it like LRT1 with 3 different types of trains on one line...

I believe the Czech company that built MRT3's trains is now defunct. They were taken over by Siemens, i think.

EDIT: oh, yes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%8CKD

queetz@home

March 21st, 2007, 06:11 AM

The beauty of the MRT/LRT lines in Metro Manila are the rolling stock are "off the shelf", meaning its common and can be bought from numerous suppliers. It does not matter if the trains are made from different manufacturers. They can easily be used on the existing infrastructure and connect to the existing trainsets if necessary.

stephencua

March 21st, 2007, 06:31 AM

finally someone thought of placing four cars per ride.. that is the easiest solution to the massive crowding along the MRT stations.. hopefully whoever the bidder is would supply the coaches within the year..

venntro

March 21st, 2007, 08:36 AM

amras

March 21st, 2007, 09:00 AM

lack of proper planning and failure to plan for the future... ganyan naman talaga ang sistema sa Pinas eh. Patch it only when you need it.

stephencua

March 21st, 2007, 10:39 AM

or they just lack some common sense and are insensitive to the hardships of the riding public since they dont ride the dilapitated trains..

queetz@home

March 21st, 2007, 10:44 AM

lack of proper planning and failure to plan for the future... ganyan naman talaga ang sistema sa Pinas eh. Patch it only when you need it.

^^ Its not a unique Philippines situation. The Calgary C-Train is in a similar situation and by some coincidence, they also run three car trainsets and only recently decided to buy more cars to make it four car trainsets. And believe me, the Calgary transportation system and urban planning is one of the best already in North America in terms of ridership performance per capita and land use shaping (Europe is in a different league, of course).

or they just lack some common sense and are insensitive to the hardships of the riding public since they dont ride the dilapitated trains..

I put the blame mostly on the DOTC for the MRT3s woes though (although MRTC should share the blame by not installing escalators at the beginning, which ultimately killed the initial ridership). Because of their never ending red tape and disregard to the well being of the commuters FIRST (i.e. actually considering that stupid ENT crap instead of moving forward for a homogeneous seamless system at whatever means necessary), it is only now that the MRT3 is being improved upon.

bustero

March 21st, 2007, 12:09 PM

^^ So that means there are only three cars per train at the moment? Will the stations be able to accommodate four cars? Obviously the answer is yes lest they be stupid to buy useless additional cars. But the point I am driving at is that if the stations can accommodate 4 cars and people are like sardines in just 3 cars then how come it took them this long to address such a basic problem.

Well the original plan is to have 4 cars, the reason it's over crowded is there is not enough cars to begin with not that the station is small. There's a throuhgput measurement done and right now we're not throughputting enough!

From what I read in Businessworld , the cars they are looking at are used ones from 2 german cities and the viennese one. It's a refurbishment project.

I don't know if I want to believe this article. Fil Estate is not a credible group. And to my knowledge the MRT consortium is supposed to be bought out before the end of the year by the government. The businessworld article in fact stated Sobrepena was poohpoohing the extension of lrt1 to meet up with mrt 3 in SM city, saying it could not be done.

queetz@home

March 21st, 2007, 12:28 PM

I don't know if I want to believe this article. Fil Estate is not a credible group. And to my knowledge the MRT consortium is supposed to be bought out before the end of the year by the government. The businessworld article in fact stated Sobrepena was poohpoohing the extension of lrt1 to meet up with mrt 3 in SM city, saying it could not be done.

Whoah! What does poohpoohing mean???? God some tagalog spoken here is so deep!!!! So that's it??? No possibility of physically linking MRT3 and LRT1 even if the government buys the MRT consortium? :cry:

C'mon! The systems are not different at all and they can physically link them to allow a seamless line from MRT3 Taft Station to LRT1 Bacoor Station if they really want too...

BoNduRanT

March 21st, 2007, 05:37 PM

LRT-1: I was surprised to see this morning that one of the new train's airconditioning is not working. Nakabukas mga bintana at nagpapaypay mga tao sa loob.

Mithril Cloud

March 21st, 2007, 05:50 PM

A 3G got busted? LRTA's in big trouble now... :ohno:

metrosuburban

March 21st, 2007, 08:58 PM

^^ yan ang napala lahat ng gobyerno sa kakatipid, red tape at corruption... haha full of crap

bagel

March 21st, 2007, 09:32 PM

I wonder if this has to do with LRTA deciding to take maintenance in-house. Several months ago, someone posted a news article about LRTA terminating its service contract with an external, private company that supplied all the maintenance for LRT1's rolling stock. Perhaps their incapability and lack of expertise is rearing its ugly head because of this decision?

venntro

March 22nd, 2007, 04:52 AM

^^ With the proposed PAGCOR E-City, it makes business sense to extend LRT 1 all the way to Bacoor Cavite. Also, link MRT3 to LRT 1 as this will encourage commuters to ride the train system.

queetz@home

March 22nd, 2007, 05:00 AM

^^ Even without PAGCOR E-City, extending LRT1 all the way to Bacoor is an absolute necessity....

ryanr

March 22nd, 2007, 05:22 AM

^^ :yes: millions of people live in the south and it needs to be serviced by mass transit.

Solblanc

March 22nd, 2007, 07:26 AM

^^ millions of people live in Metro Manila, period :D With our population, a good MRT network isn't just some pretty little piece of infra, it's a necessity if we want to move MM's urban development into the future...

le Reine

March 22nd, 2007, 01:11 PM

^that's true. I just want to ask about the current plans for MRT-4? Is it still on hold?

What I hate about MRT-3 and LRT-1 is that when the queue for buying tickets become obstacles for the turnstiles. The engineers should have separated the two. Or they should have done the same as LRT-2 where the ticket booths are on the upper level (for subways) and the platform is underground.

ishtefh_03

March 22nd, 2007, 02:39 PM

i dunno if someone posted this before... this is the Expansion of D jose station na malapit ng matapos sa ngayon... finally, sobrang delayed na sila talaga...

well, hawig naman sya sa nagawa ngayon...
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e345/ishtefh_03/LRT1-D.jpg

Solblanc

March 23rd, 2007, 04:32 AM

^^ wow, is there a bigger rendering, one that includes the recto station of line-2?

@XP: mrt-4 is indefinitely on hold. The priority projects are the lrt-1 extensions (north and south) Mrt-7 should also start soon.

bustero

March 23rd, 2007, 06:16 AM

Whoah! What does poohpoohing mean???? God some tagalog spoken here is so deep!!!! So that's it??? No possibility of physically linking MRT3 and LRT1 even if the government buys the MRT consortium? :cry:

C'mon! The systems are not different at all and they can physically link them to allow a seamless line from MRT3 Taft Station to LRT1 Bacoor Station if they really want too...

hahaha :lol: pooh pooh is bastardized english actually not deep tagalog (believe me my Pilipino or tagalog is quite pathetic, it's only good for buying kendi at the sarisari store hehe). Pooh as in Winnie the Pooh, to discount well here's a better definition...

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/pooh-pooh
pooh-pooh Pronunciation (pp)
tr.v. pooh-poohed, pooh-pooh·ing, pooh-poohs Informal
To express contempt for or impatience about; make light of: "British actors have long pooh-poohed the Method" Stephen Schiff.

Basically Sobrepena was saying that it's not going to work but he's not credible. He has a bad reputation and has interests in the thing not working.

I actually believe it's (the 2 lines) supposed to get connected, that part does make sense! Maybe not now but someday.