^^ and sex, shocked the media hasn't had much expose on political sex scandals. Maybe its an accepted norm among politicians?

Don't live and react to day to day media releases. We all know a lot of them are inaccurate. If you backpedal and read you'll see various articles having the GOP recite various positions.

Mind you implementation of any project is the undertaking of the executive department. THere is nothing that the senate can do. They can bitch about it and make press releases but the bottomline is their investigation can only highlight issues as they can only investigate for legislation. They can not stop projects. If the administration stops these projects then it does so on it's own accord as only a Judicial order can stop a project not a congressional one.

^^ For crying out loud! I am so getting mixed signals on the status of these extremely critical life or death to livability in Metro Manila MRT/LRT projects! Can someone please summarize what exactly is happening?

One article says that the ODA projects will be sourced locally, that the Philippine economy is more than capable of funding it using internal funds, blah blah blah, hence everything should be okay...see link below

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=18654075&postcount=648

The article posted above, although the president vows it will be "finished the project...at all cost", still requires people to march into the Senate to help end the project being "derailed by threats of investigation". So what the bloody hell does this all mean?

Should we just give up hope and get the bloody f*ck out of this country since there is absolutely no hope for progess as long as jack*sses like Alan Cayetano, Rodolfo Biazon, Panfilo Lacson, Jambitch Madrigal are breathing air? GOD!!!! This is absolutely ridiculous!

Somebody just nuke Metro Manila already and put us all out of our misery so we can start from scratch and do thing rights!!! :gaah:I think the President is just trying to get support from Cavitenos for the project. With regards to the infrastructure, I think it is better to source it locally to prevent it from getting it into messy "investigations" again.

Is there any plans for the LRT-2 Extension for Construction?I think the plan will extend up to junction, antipolo. can anyone confirm this?

Don't live and react to day to day media releases. We all know a lot of them are inaccurate. If you backpedal and read you'll see various articles having the GOP recite various positions.

Mind you implementation of any project is the undertaking of the executive department. THere is nothing that the senate can do. They can bitch about it and make press releases but the bottomline is their investigation can only highlight issues as they can only investigate for legislation. They can not stop projects. If the administration stops these projects then it does so on it's own accord as only a Judicial order can stop a project not a congressional one.I agree.

I think the plan will extend up to junction, antipolo. can anyone confirm this?



yep., confirmed yung up to masinag in antipolo. chismis palang yung hanggang cogeo. :)

@ marieantoinette, dancethingy and bustero

So what you guys are saying is we shouldn't worry about the Senate regarding the MRT/LRT projects? I suppose you guys are right but this only seems to also reinforce the need for PGMA to stay in power at all costs so she could ensure as the executive department, that these projects will push through. So I guess if there is an impeachment or something and given the Opposition, through their Senators and self interest oligarchs don't really give a damn about these projects that will improve the lives of millions of Filipinos....be afraid...be very afraid.... :ohno:

So I hope that she remains in power by 2010 so the completion of the MRT/LRT loop is done, that construction for LRT6 to Bacoor has commence, and possibly even the construction of the LRT2 extension to Antipolo. They are so critical to the lifeblood of the Metropolis they must be built by whatever means necessary!

I suppose you guys know my feelings towards the MRT/LRT expansion projects and how important it is that they push through at all costs. After all, there is an urban legend amongst forumers that my rantings to kill that dreaded ENT project actually killed it and gave us a better alternative to close the MRT/LRT loop.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=478266

Was anyone aware that Sto. Domingo, Domincan Rep. has a new subway system? Way way better than Metro Manila's (xept Purple Line LRT). I didn't know they had the funds to build one. :lol: Apparently, I've always compared their economy to that of Haiti's.. Well they can't be that bad. Just that of the Carribean then.

Santo Domingo has a subway system because of a determined mayor. Their mayor grew up in New York where the subway is king. He wanted to see the same thing in his country. Even though the Dominican Republic has a small population and its economy is smaller and more impoverished than that of the Philippines just the fact that they built it they probably have now become the pearl of the caribbean! Even though they can hardly pay for it and its probably not going to turn a profit, even though it may just become their white elephant in the future the point is that they wanted one and they built it. Maybe we can learn a thing from the Dominicanos, we need to stop procrastinating and JUST BUILD.

^^ well said guys..

We cannot stress these facts more to the millions of ignoramuses on the PI. We do need the MRT/LRT project to push through. it is badly needed. If not now, when will we ever see this project get done.. You're right, we should stop procrastinating so we can get the important projects built.

Queetz

I actually believe that the statements by the GOP regarding the rail projects are a bit OA. Except for north rail, all three priority projects have been fully vetted out years ago, all of them started in Estrada time even before and it's just a question of process. I'm almost sure we'll see the start of lrt 6 and finish of mrt north edsa connection ( in some form or another) within this presidency. Southrail , at least the initial improvement from the Koreans is also a very old project with very little opposition specially since it's not even that big (only 50m$). NorthRail may have more detractors but in the end it's already started and very difficult to stop as well.

In the end while I am no fan of this administration, I like a lot of people can not see how a change in gov't can be effected in a stable legal manner hence we will all live with it and the approved projects will go through.

filcan leechtat

I don't think we can afford white elephants at this point. Good projects yes but the GOP can't afford to subsidize too many lines like they're doing now.

...

In the end while I am no fan of this administration, I like a lot of people can not see how a change in gov't can be effected in a stable legal manner hence we will all live with it and the approved projects will go through.
...

Yes, a lot of people who do not want change in government do not necessarily favour President Arroyo's being there. But there is no perfect system (not anywhere in the world I think) and if people would always resort to an EDSA (as Cardinal Rosales put it) every time corruption is suspected, the nation will get nowhere with constant changing of leaders. It is important to learn to live and grow with what one has, and this is what one sees in China and in Vietnam.

Cerge M. Remonde
The Manila Bulletin (excerpts)
http://www.mb.com.ph/OPED20080228118126.html

We are pleased with the high level of public interest in government infrastructure projects, and their close monitoring of the implementation.

At the Pro-Performance Steering Committee (PSC), we have the government’s implementing agencies working closely with our monitoring partners – media, business, NGOs, the church, academe, youth – towards the seamless implementation of complex infrastructure projects. These major projects, when fully operational, will change the economic and social landscape in the countryside and in our major logistics hubs.

This level of interest should lead to a broader monitoring base, broad as it already is, to include every Juan dela Cruz with a phone camera and MMS.

...

Anyone, and I mean everyone, who is genuinely concerned over cost and implementation of major or all government projects, we invite them to be our citizen monitors. Your participation in PPS is your assurance that all projects are done right and proper.

Typical MRT3 Morning Rush Hour Scene:
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa18/cq40/MrtScene.jpg

^^ looks like an armpit fiesta in the morning. I'm sure it smells great in the afternoon when everyone's going home sweaty.

dapat may deodorant dispenser sa trains:lol:

^^ haha.. natawa ako dito...

i agree with you @bustero and manchowyin.. i feel the same way with the government.. but we have to live with it.. pgma is the better alternative...

^^ looks like an armpit fiesta in the morning. I'm sure it smells great in the afternoon when everyone's going home sweaty.

Imagine if that were the seen here in dubai? You'd FAINT!

mahilig maligo ang pilipino, masyadong concern sa iniisip ng iba tungkol sa kanya, kaya hindi time-bomb ang kili-kili sa pinas. di gaya sa ibang bansa normal lang :lol:

Ang laki! Please make this smaller. And this is also a very outdated plan.

a smaller version.. i'd like this to be followed though. it's nice seeing mrt7 go all the way to manila instead of just north avenue. Plus the naia3 rail link.

http://www.cis.com.ph/new/esourcing/images/metro_manila_map.jpg

I've never been inside and aboard an LRT/MRT. Does it make you dizzy? :lol:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=478266

Was anyone aware that Sto. Domingo, Domincan Rep. has a new subway system? Way way better than Metro Manila's (xept Purple Line LRT). I didn't know they had the funds to build one. :lol: Apparently, I've always compared their economy to that of Haiti's.. Well they can't be that bad. Just that of the Carribean then.

Shoot!! ang bilis matapos!! the inaguration ceremony itself was surreal!

I've never been inside and aboard an LRT/MRT. Does it make you dizzy? :lol:

kidding??:) it depends on the time you take the train.. pag hapon siguro iba na ang amoy...
i remember my first ride, i dont know how to use the ticket and a lot of people are waiting, good thing an old woman helped me..:nuts:

Any news about MRT-7? It seems like there's no buzz about its supposed construction this year. I thought this project is already a GO?

^^ It was shelved.

What do you mean by shelved? Postponed??? Or has it suffered the fate of MRT 4?

Oh. Nvm... I though it was MRT-7 that was postponed. MRT-4 pala.

Oh. Nvm... I though it was MRT-7 that was postponed. MRT-4 pala.

pinakaba mo kami don ah......i have been longing for that mrt.....kakapagod magdrive....kakatipid pa ako...pagnatapos yan......kaya...i will stick it out with little evil gloria.....yung mga ayaw pa iwan si cory....laban kung laban.... little evil gloria vs...the queen of darkness cory.....glorietta has done a great job with the economy.... o sige na...ot na ako...

Cory has done nothing for infrastructure except that flyover in EDSA Ortigas and maybe a couple of projects....

Solving Manila's Transport Congestion - A Rail Subway Solution
By Jack Keefe and Dr Michael C. Clarke


Introduction

Manila is one of Asia's great metropolises. It is a city of some sixteen million people that has some very serious transportation challenges. In the past, extensive transportation studies by experienced planners have concluded that Metro Manila required a mass transit system to resolve its congestion. As of 2008, three Elevated Rail Transport Systems (ERTS) have been constructed, but these systems are not truly integrated, and do not serve the primary business district of Makati, nor its satellite business and residential district of Fort Bonifacio. What is needed is an integrated system that will allow easy passenger movement between the Philippine National Railway (PNR) services and with at least two of the ERT systems, whilst providing a mass transport system for Makati, Fort Bonifacio and adjacent commercial and residential areas. In short, the Rail Subway system that is being proposed will create good transport connectivity for Metro Manila.

Other possible solutions that include an extension of the massive elevated structures that characterise the present ERTs or an extension of the high cost and polluting expressway systems are too expensive. What is needed is an innovative and unique subway mass transit system.

The Proposal

Subway systems are not new. London, New York and Paris have long existing, efficient systems. Bangkok has a new subway system that is interconnected to that city's ERT system, and to the Thai National Railways. For Manila, the proposed interconnected transport system will in some aspects mimic that which has been created in Bangkok.

The subway system will connect Makati, and its residential villages, Fort Bonifacio, Mandaluyong, Pateros, Pasig/Ortigas and San Juan, an area of some twelve square kilometres. It will provide quick access between the major business, commercial and new and established residential areas of Metro Manila, and give ready access to the combined CBD for the population of Manila, and adjoining regions (through a revamped PNR).

The proposal includes the provision of pedestrian interconnectivity with ERTS 2 and 3, and to the PNR's north/south rail system. The PNR interconnection will provide access to depot yards and maintenance facilities, and later to an electrified rail system to the Clark International Airport in Pampanga. A link can be created from the subway to the Nino Aquino International and Domestic Airport terminals.

Engineering

Many recent subway systems have been constructed using high technology Tunnel Boring Machines (TBMs). For Manila, the unique geology suggests that a second approach to tunnelling be used, this being the use of medium technology road-header machines with semi-integrated safe and efficient tunnel lining. (Note: The volcanic tuff that exists in the Manila basin, should be easily handled by the road-headers, and provide for safe and efficient rapidly progressing tunnel lining.)

The use of road-headers with underground mine conveyors will allow for efficient tunnelling waste movement with the extraction of broken rock occurring where the underground tunnels 'daylight' adjacent to the Passig River bridge crossings. With respect to rolling stock, modern and skilled designers of the all-new subway alignment can take maximum economic and environmental advantage of the favourable features of advanced electric traction systems that will include regenerative breaking with low cost traction maintenance.

Financing

Although Manila is a major Asian metropolis with a large portion of the population having good incomes, there is a percentage of the population that is 'low income'. To make the integrated mass-transport system affordable to low income earners, the fare structure of the entire system will need to be carefully set. The pursuit of non-fare revenue streams from along the railway corridor, such as connection of stations to commercial enterprises that will include shopping precincts, will be sought for their revenue potentials. The development of commercial and new residential areas along the subway route should be taken into account in the creation of partnerships for the subway construction and thence operation.

It is proposed that the project require no cash disbursements by the Government. The financing scheme will be of the Build Operate Own (BOO), Build Operate Own Transfer (BOOT), or similar.

Progressing the Subway Project

The undertaking of a detailed feasibility study inclusive of project engineering and management, transport technology options, societal implications and financial models is required to understand if and how the Manila Subway Project can become a reality. Confirming the geology of the proposed route will be required as a major initial engineering contribution. This geological investigation will assist in determining the route, in selecting the excavation equipment and in providing an indication of the expected rate of progress of excavation.

The project engineering will also consider the provision of underground sidings, connection to a surface rail depot, interconnection with the PNR, the form of 'People Movers' required for allowing passenger movement between the subway and the ERTS 2 and 3, and choosing a rail system with excellent environmental credentials and energy efficiency.

Regarding the societal implications of the Subway Project, the feasibility study will look at the cost of the project in terms of traffic disruption during construction (to be kept to a minimal through underground tunnelling), the benefits of the project in terms of adding to Manila's functionality, and the direct and indirect job and income opportunities created by the Subway. Financial models will be developed that will clearly show the costs and the income streams during construction and operation of the Subway, with appropriate financing schemes being developed.

The feasibility study is expected to last for 26 weeks and result in a decision to undertake (or not undertake) the project. A 'Bankable Document' will be the deliverable if a decision is made to proceed.

Conclusion

It is a great challenge to provide Metro Manila with a clean, efficient and non-polluting mass transport system. To provide riding passengers with an all-weather protected first class mass transport system at affordable fares is part of the challenge.

The affordability will be ensured by creating a subway system that will require minimum purchase of real property, which will make best use of the favourable geology during construction, and will allow for the maximisation of non-fare revenues. The bringing together of sound engineering practice that takes into account the physical nature of the geology and terrain, the opportunities for transport system integration and good environmental engineering principles, whilst taking into account local social and economic factors, along with strong business and governmental support, will be required to make the Manila Rail Subway project a reality.

Click here to view a diagram of the proposed route of the Manila Subway System

http://www.metts.com.au/manila-subway-diagram-6.jpg

About the Authors

Jack Keefe is a professional civil engineer with many years experience in the design, construction and commissioning of major civil engineering projects. Much of his professional work has been in Asia. Mr. Keefe has a BS in civil engineering from the University of Wyoming, and is a life member of the American Society of Civil Engineers.

Dr. Michael C. Clarke is the founder of M.E.T.T.S. Pty. Ltd. - Consulting Engineers of New Farm, Queensland, Australia. Dr. Clarke has qualifications and experience in mining, chemical and environmental engineering. In 2007 Dr. Clarke completed a consultancy for the Asian Development Bank that looked at raw energy supply in Pakistan.

Dr. Clarke has been assisting Mr. Keefe with the environmental engineering aspects of the Manila Subway Project. M.E.T.T.S. has been active in putting the documentation for the project together.

Article Source: http://EzineArticles.com/?expert=Jack_Keefe

http://www.ulc.com.ph/Images/index-2.jpg

MRT 7
picture from their website www.ulc.com.ph

from http://www.sjdmcity.gov.ph

Super City in Bulacan
http://www.sjdmcity.gov.ph/images/stories/northwestern%20view%20of%20the%20site.jpg

Intermodal Terminal will be constructed (the last terminal of the 20.7-kilometer MRT-7 line from SM City North EDSA in Quezon City, LRT-1 north)
http://www.sjdmcity.gov.ph/images/stories/intermodal%20terminal.jpg

http://www.sjdmcity.gov.ph/images/stories/mrt-7%20stations.jpg

Imagine kung tuloy tuloy sana ang expansion ng LRT/MRT lines natin. Siguro mas madami na tayong lines sa HK, SG or Taiwan. Alam ko mas nauna pang naitayo ang LRT 1 kaysa MRT ng SG. Yung Taiwan din, recently lang nag expand ng kanilang mass transport systems (during mid 90s).

I am not sure if this is the latest news about MRT 7 but I'll post it anyway

Govt set to sign contract for MRT-7 in April

The Department of Transportation and Communications (DOTC) is set to sign in April the contract for the Metro Rail Transit 7 (MRT-7), with Universal LRT Corp. as proponent.

Universal LRT is a consortium led by EL International Holdings, a member of Hong Kong's EL Group of Companies under businessman Eli Levin.

Guiling Mamondiong, DOTC undersecretary for railways transportation, said that they are just finalizing the terms of the Build-Gradual Transfer-Operate and Maintenance contract to be signed with Universal LRT. The scheme used for the MRT-7 is a variation on the Build-Operate-Transfer deal.

Once the BOT contract is signed, Universal LRT will have 18 months for financial close, meaning that they must have their funding ready by then. The project costs $1.235 billion, but only about $49 million will be spent for the rail system proper. The rest of the amount will be spent on the real estate component of the project, including a 22-kilometer, 6-lane highway from San Jose del Monte to Bocaue, Bulacan.

Of the total project cost, $926 million will be raised through borrowings while the rest through equity.

But Mamondiong stressed that the MRT-7, unlike the MRT-3, will not carry a sovereign guarantee and that Universal LRT is on its own in sourcing funds for the project.

The MRT-7 will run from SM City North EDSA along North Avenue, passing through Philcoa, University of the Philippines-Diliman, Tandang Sora, Don Antonio, Batasan, Regalado Avenue (Fairview area), all the way to San Jose del Monte.

Mamondiong said an estimated 600,000 commuters a day will benefit from the MRT-7. The average fare will be from P27.00-P40.00, which is less than half of what commuters pay for the route.

The DOTC expects groundbreaking to start later this year or early next year. The commercial operation of the MRT-7 is unlikely to happen until 2012.

^^i hope thats new.

Saw this image from another thread

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa80/Animo_Ateneo/100b5-embed.gif

^^that's from the jica study for mm mass transport

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2177/2318838374_e47a28b9f8.jpg?v=0
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2186/2318838806_11b9afb492.jpg?v=0

proposed MRT 7 station 1

pictures from www.ulc.com.ph

proposed MRT 7 station 1

pictures from www.ulc.com.ph


Okay to! Kung hindi ako naduling, yung MRT 7 is on the left and MRT 3 on the right. Atleast one station for two MRT lines! Mas madaling magtransfer ng train.

BTW, any news sa MRT extension to Monumento?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2177/2318838374_e47a28b9f8.jpg?v=0
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2186/2318838806_11b9afb492.jpg?v=0

proposed MRT 7 station 1

pictures from www.ulc.com.ph

^^ Not sure if this reflects the current plan of the proposed LRT7 but the scenario posted in the website represents the best possible scenario in integrating MRT3 and possibly even LRT1 as the ultimate transfer station. But this scenario requires MRT3 to be extended by at least one more station, something which we are still unsure off at this point. We keep hearing in the newspapers that the terminus of both LRT1 and LRT7 will be "beside" the existing MRT3 terminus. While I can imagine LRT1 going that far and be incorporated somehow (and there is a possibility of a seamless link, which we are uncertain but are strongly hoping for), I find it hard to imagine how LRT7 can accomplish that with such a steep curve towards the existing MRT3 terminus. Even if LRT1 and MRT3 won't physically linked, having a large station so all three lines can allow passengers to easily transfer would help greatly. The last thing we want is the connections to be similar to the current LRT2 connections of MRT3 in Cubao and LRT1 in Recto where it requires such a long tedious walk... :ohno:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2177/2318838374_e47a28b9f8.jpg?v=0
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2186/2318838806_11b9afb492.jpg?v=0

proposed MRT 7 station 1

pictures from www.ulc.com.ph

this is the best possible solution^^. i'd rather mrt3 extend all the way to monumento than LRT1 going along edsa.

Bulacan may become the next industrious city in the metro, and maybe the next philippine's most dynamic province once the plan is built.

this is the best possible solution^^. i'd rather mrt3 extend all the way to monumento than LRT1 going along edsa.

Oo nga kaso final na iyong LRT extension to SM north eh.

^^ so wait, LRT will traverse the same line as MRT3 does(along EDSA)??:dunno:

^^ Well, as far as we know, LRT1 will be extended to the existing MRT3 terminus beside Trinoma. It will end there and you will have to transfer trains to continue on. What we're hoping for, especially with the MRT3 buyout, is LRT1 will physically link to MRT3 so one can travel from, say Shaw Blvd station beside Edsa Shangrila to Monumento or even all the way to La Salle Taft Avenue without ever leaving the train.

^^ yep thats the best of them all.. no need to transfer to a different line unlike now..

I think that plan to build a single station for MRT 3 and MRT 7 is the best option. Kasi the distance from MRT 3 North Ave station and MRT 7 Station 1 is almost equal to the distance of MRT Ortigas and MRT Shaw. Imagine kung wala iyan, grabe layo ng lalakarin mo para makalipat lang ng train.

http://www.gov.ph/news/?i=20317

PGMA's surge in infrastructure-spending gets P200 billion allotment in 2008 budget
TUESDAY, MARCH 11, 2008 | GOVERNMENT MANAGEMENT


The surge in infrastructure spending ordered by President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo as the Philippine economy's firewall from the slowing down of the US economy and other major worlds economies was supported by the 2008 national budget.

The President, in her message during the signing into law of the 2008 P1.227 -trillion national budget in Malacanang this morning, said some P200 billion has been allotted for infrastructure budget this year to serve as springboard to boost the country’s economic growth.

The infrastructure budget also included those from the government-owned and-controlled corporations and local governments.

Some of these projects were mentioned by the President in her July 2007 State-Of-The-Nation Address (SONA), most of which support the infrastructure needs of the super regions.

''Key components of our economic investments include key physical infrastructure projects across the nation to build up roads, bridges and ports,'' the President said.

These projects as enumerated by the President included the construction or repair of various roads and road networks or links in different places in Mindanao, the Visayas, the Luzon Urban Beltway and the Northern Luzon Agribusiness Quadrangle.

These national roads include the Surigao-Davao, Davao del Norte-Bukidnon, Lebak-Maguindanao-Butuan-Esperanza in Agusan del Norte, Sibuco-Siraway-Siocon-Baliguian in Zamboanga del Norte in Mindanao.

In the Visayas, which is being developed as a tourism center, the construction of new airports and the rehabilitation and expansion of existing ones are underway.

These include the Sta. Barbara Airport in Iloilo, Caticlan-Pandan-Libertad in Panay, Bacolod to Silay Airport, El Nido-Rio Tuba in Palawan, Esperanza-Aroroy in Masbate and the Caramoan Peninsula road.

In the Urban Beltway, the C5 NLEX and SLEX-link and the Marikina-Infanta road; the Halsema highway, Bontoc-Tabuk-Tuguegarao and Tarlac-Nueva Ecija-Dingalan road in the North Luzon Agribusiness Quadrangle.

Other projects include the continuation of rail projects like the LRT Line 1 North Extension to close the commuter train loop in Metro Manila, and the construction of RORO ports and airports in North Luzon to support rice productivity and anti-hunger programs.

Farm-to-market road and irrigation projects worthP15 billion are also ongoing to ensure increased food productivity.

Other infrastructure projects are the completion of rural electrification, the upgrading of hospitals from primary to secondary and housing projects and the remediation works on NAIA3 to comply with international standards.

''Our central objective to create more jobs and grow our economy is to invest, invest, and invest,'' the President stressed.

Gov’t to start fundraising for MRT takeover

By Doris Dumlao
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 01:02:00 03/12/2008

The government is finalizing a $900-million domestic fund-raising activity for its plan to take over of Metro Manila’s overhead Metro Railway Transit (MRT), Finance Secretary Margarito Teves said.

The Department of Finance has mandated state-owned Development Bank of the Philippines (DBP) to arrange the transaction. Department officials hope to raise the money by tapping the local bond market after March 31, when implementation agreement governing the MRT buyout will be signed.

“The entire amount will be raised from domestic sources,” Teves told reporters. “I’ve told DBP that is our preference. We will meet after March 31 to discuss the loans.”

Earlier reports said the government was planning to fund the MRT takeover by issuing 10-year Treasury bonds. That would help mop up excess peso liquidity in the financial system and generate demand for dollars, as the MRT debts to be settled are dollar-denominated.

In case the $900 million will be too big for the local bond market to absorb, the government is considering also selling foreign-currency bonds.

The government earlier entered into an $865-million deal to take over the build-lease-transfer contract for the MRT to trim future expenses on this mass transport system. The total funding requirement, however, is expected to reach $900 million, including certain interest expenses.

The buyout of the MRT contract from the private consortium that built it will save the government $380 million, according to estimates of the Department of Finance. Edited by INQUIRER.net

Tell it to Lacson or Madrigal. They can make it a national issue. :lol::lol:

Senator Ping Lacson has a website, blogsite and a forum where contributions are very welcome.
I mentioned this on the Northrail/Southrail thread in response to a want to say something to people who can make a difference, but there was no attempt made by anyone.
Why not all hit the forum in a massive wave giving thoughts on the MRT, LRT and heavy rail systems.
Only with a huge voice will anyone be heard, so an effort needs to be made.

http://senpinglacson.proboards83.com/index.cgi?

Brad

Senator Ping Lacson has a website, blogsite and a forum where contributions are very welcome.
I mentioned this on the Northrail/Southrail thread in response to a want to say something to people who can make a difference, but there was no attempt made by anyone.
Why not all hit the forum in a massive wave giving thoughts on the MRT, LRT and heavy rail systems.
Only with a huge voice will anyone be heard, so an effort needs to be made.

http://senpinglacson.proboards83.com/index.cgi?

Brad

^^ He won't listen to you....unless you give him the impression that you have some incriminating evidence against the First Family even though you clearly do not, like what Leo San Miguel did....

:rofl:

I've never been inside and aboard an LRT/MRT. Does it make you dizzy? :lol:

Only when crambed in between 20 maganda Pinays :lol:

^^ But that's only possible when you squeezed yourself into the female coach, the one infront of the train. :D

^^ But that's only possible when you squeezed yourself into the female coach, the one infront of the train. :D

No shortage of them in the male coach last year. Thank goodness :lol:

^^ He won't listen to you....unless you give him the impression that you have some incriminating evidence against the First Family even though you clearly do not, like what Leo San Miguel did....

:rofl:

Can't say he has ever ignored me in the past.
That being said, I can't say that anything I comment on would actually make a difference :ohno:

Still, all politicians are swayed by that which serves them best. Make a noise everywhere and then suddenly you become of great interest.
To not even attempt to raise a roar about on his forum shows a tremendous apathy, which is certainly not good for the country. :(

Brad

ok! MRT and LRT are different lines, designed to cater to different people going to different places. but the transfer from the other to the another is a waste of time. i have never been to any foreign country but, guys at least we have these conventional transits on the move, unless you have a car. and this (MRT/LRT) was not possible without the efforts of the government for the metro to be productive in a sense that it wants the whole metro to be connected and as one. haba ng sinabi..... :-)

I think MM's rails should be renovated and be patterned to LRT's Purple Line. All of them.

can we have some photos on the poll?

Hong Kong MTR
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/MTR-ChoiHung.JPG/800px-MTR-ChoiHung.JPG

Tokyo Subway
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/15/Iidabashistationunderground.jpg

New York Subway
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f7/59th_Street%E2%80%93Columbus_Circle_%28New_York_City_Subway%29_by_David_Shankbone.jpg/800px-59th_Street%E2%80%93Columbus_Circle_%28New_York_City_Subway%29_by_David_Shankbone.jpg

London Underground
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/TubeStationWithTrain.jpg

Paris Metro
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2b/Metro-Paris-Rame-MP59-Ligne-4.jpg/800px-Metro-Paris-Rame-MP59-Ligne-4.jpg

Bangkok Skytrain
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Train_leaving_Asok_Station.jpg/800px-Train_leaving_Asok_Station.jpg

The New LRT train (Yellow Line) Line 1
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h291/berniemacksouthcentral/82D20380.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h291/berniemacksouthcentral/82D20382.jpg
The old and the new

http://www.gmanews.tv/story/86336/RP-looking-for-private-funding-for-P6335B-in-projects

RP looking for private funding for P63.35B in projects
03/26/2008 | 05:05 PM
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MANILA, Philippines- The government is seeking private sector funding for development projects worth at least P63.35 billion under its updated Comprehensive Infrastructure Investment Program.

A presentation by acting Socioeconomic Planning Secretary Augusto Santos before the Philippine Development Forum in Clark Field, Pampanga showed that the government has 10 priority projects that it will offer to the private sector for partnership and funding.

The updated CIIP, costing P2.06 trillion, includes, 10 priority projects that may be offered for private financing or government and private sector partnership. Included are: North Luzon East Expressway Project Stage 1 (P3.01 billion), Metro Manila Tollway (P38.87 billion), MRT Line 2 East Extension to Masinag (P11.52 bilion), Panguil Bay Bridge (P2.8 billion), and, Operation & Maintenance of Subic-Clark-Tarlac Expressway Project.

Also included are the: 300 million liters per day Metropolitan Waterworks and Sewerage System Bulk Water Supply Project (P5.2 billion), 50 MLD Wawa River Project (P1.95 billion), Power Capacity Requirements for Luzon Grid, Power Capacity Requirements for Visayas Grid, and Power Capacity Requirements for Mindanao Grid.

Santos added that of the total CIIP requirements from last year to 2010, P575 billion will come from the private sector; about P1.2 trillion or 59 percent from the national government, and 6 percent to P114 billion from government-owned and controlled corporations.

Government financial institutions will shoulder 1.3 percent or P27 billion, local government units, 0.38 percent to P8 billion and other sources such as grants, Universal Charge for Missionary Electrification, and Energy Regulation, 6 percent, or P131 billion.

On a sectoral basis, around 40 percent of the total requirement is allocated for transportation, 27 percent for power and electrification, and 18 percent for water resources. Social infrastructure will be allocated 10 percent while communications will get around 3 percent. About 2 percent will be used for the support of agrarian reform communities (ARCs), and another 2 percent for relending programs of GFIs. - Cheryl Arcibal, GMANews.TV

^^ sana makakuha na agad sila ng funding., :) matagal nang hinihintay ang extension na yan.,

matuloy pa kaya ang west extension papuntang DV at north harbor?

^^ I wish! I really do. Although Megaworld already has the Citylink bus service to provide transporation to their Cityplace project, an extension of LRT2 towards Divisoria, even if its just one additional measley little station, would give that project, as well as the new 168 Towers walking distance access to the Metro Manila rapid transit network. I would love to take LRT2 to visit my condo when its done... ;)

http://www.mb.com.ph/BSNS20080327120330.html

P2-T infra projects offered to donors

Acting Socioeconomic Planning Secretary and National Economic and Development Authority (NEDA) Director-General Augusto B. Santos presented to the donor community the updated Comprehensive Infrastructure Investment Program (CIIP) costing more than P2 trillion.


In his presentation at the Philippine Development Forum yesterday at Clark, Pampanga, Santos said the updated CIIP costing P2.06 trillion includes the following priority projects that may be offered for private financing: North Luzon East Expressway (NLEE) Project Stage 1 (P3.01 billion); Metro Manila Tollway (P38.87 billion); MRT Line 2 East Extension to Masinag (P11.52 billion); Panguil Bay Bridge (P2.80 billion); Operation & Maintenance of Subic-Clark-Tarlac Expressway Project (SCTEP); 300 MLD MWSS Bulk Water Supply Project (P5.20 billion); 50 MLD Wawa River Project (P1.95 billion); Power Capacity Requirements for Luzon Grid; Power Capacity Requirements for Visayas Grid; and Power Capacity Requirements for Mindanao Grid.

According to the NEDA chief, of the total CIIP requirements for 2007 until beyond 2010, some 28 percent or P575 billion will come from the private sector, 59 percent or around P1.2 trillion from the national government and 6 percent or P114 billion from government-owned and controlled corporations (GOCCs). Government financial institutions (GFIs) will shoulder 1.3 percent or P27 billion, local government units (LGUs), 0.38 percent or P8 billion, and other sources (such as grants, Universal Charge for Missionary Electrification, and Energy Regulation 1-94) will be tapped for 6 percent or P131 billion of the total investments.

On a sectoral basis, around 40 percent of the total requirement is allocated for transportation, 27 percent for power and electrification, and 18 percent for water resources. Social infrastructure will be allocated 10 percent while communications will get around 3 percent. About 2 percent will be used for the support of agrarian reform communities (ARCs), and another 2 percent for relending programs of GFIs.

He noted that a PDF working group (WG) on Infrastructure can help further efforts towards pushing infrastructure as a growth driver. It can also be a venue where discussions could translate to substantial contributions in terms of job and investment generation and facilitation of the advancement of other equally important sectors. We hope that with more investments in infrastructure, we can accelerate growth and translate this into social benefits, Santos said.

Mabuti pa Surigao del Sur, may subway na...

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^^

we looked like "indios" in that commercial :lol:

Mabuti pa Surigao del Sur, may subway na...

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ayus uh! looks like some spaniards are planning to put up some light rail system there hehe

wow bakit sila may metro na

Any news about MRT 4 and the LRT 1 extension projects? (Good ones I hope)

I don't know if this has been posted already pero mukhang updated na yung Metropass website with lots of new information:

http://www.metropasscards.com/

Nakalagay dun available na yung cards, is this true? Gumagana na ba yung mga readers sa MRT?

Mabuti pa Surigao del Sur, may subway na...

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:lol: awesome.

Mabuti pa Surigao del Sur, may subway na...

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para san yung commercial? & bakit pilipinas ang setting?

the commercial is for the Madrid Metro in Spain.

Gov’t eyes June for start of MRT-LRT loop project
Business World
http://www.bworld.com.ph/BW041808/content.php?id=042

PRESSED TO STAY on schedule, state-owned train operator Light Rail Transit Authority (LRT) is hastening the awarding of the MRT-LRT mass railway loop project so that construction could start soon.

The rail link project will connect the Light Rail Transit (LRT) Line 1’s Monumento station in Caloocan City with the Metro Rail Transit’s (MRT) North Avenue station in Quezon City in a bid to ease Metro Manila’s traffic problem.

In a telephone interview, bids and awards committee (BAC) Chairman Cesar B. Chavez said they hope to award the contract to the winning bidder by June 9 for packages A and B, and by July 17 for package C.

The MRT-LRT Loop has three components: package A, which is divided in two phases and involves the construction of a viaduct and pedestrian overpass; package B, which will build and modify train stations; and package C, which entails electromechanical works.

"We are now doing the technical bidding for A1, A2 and B wherein the engineering design submitted by the bidders are tested and the financial checks will follow right after," Mr. Chavez said.

For packages A1 and B, only D.M. Consunji-First Balfour, Inc. qualified to join the bidding. F.F. Cruz and Co., Inc.-Filipinas Systems, Inc. has joined the Consunji and Lopez venture for package A2.

Meanwhile, package C, Mr. Chavez said, was declared a failed bid after DMCI-First Balfour, the only party qualified to join the bidding, failed to submit its engineering design documents.

Asked about their options, Mr. Chavez said: "RA (Republic Act) 9184 says that in case of a failed bid happening twice, we can negotiate. We can still meet [our] schedule."

The MRT-LRT Loop involves the construction of three new stations, one located at the MRT-3 North Avenue end and the other two at Balintawak and Muñoz Market in Quezon City. The P5.9-billion development, which starts operating in 2009, is expected to start in June after the contract is awarded.

The Metro Rail Transit system, popularly known as the MRT, is part of Metro Manila’s metropolitan rail system. It has a single line, MRT-3 or the Blue Line.

Although it has characteristics of a light rail, such as the type of rolling stock used, it is more akin to a rapid transit system. It is not related to the Manila Light Rail Transit System, a separate but linked system.

One of its original purposes was to decongest Epifanio de los Santos Avenue (EDSA), one of Metro Manila’s main thoroughfares and home to the MRT.

The MRT is operated by the Metro Rail Transit Corp. (MRTC), a private company operating in partnership with the Department of Transportation and Communications (DOTC) under a build-operate-transfer agreement.

Meanwhile, the Light Rail Transit system, popularly known as the LRT, has two lines: LRT-1, called the Yellow Line, and MRT-2, called the Purple Line.

The LRT, operated by the Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA), a government-owned and controlled corporation, is the first metro system in Southeast Asia, built earlier than Singapore’s MRT by three years.

Many commuters who ride the LRT and MRT also take road-based public transport, such as buses, to reach their destinations from a station. Both the MRT and LRT have been only partially successful in decongesting Metro Manila’s main roads, and traffic is further aggravated by the rising number of motor vehicles.


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Rail loop winning bid out in June
By Gigi Muñoz David
Manila Standard
http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=police3_april17_2008

Administrator Mel Robles of the Light Rail Transit Authority said the winning bid for the North Edsa-Monumento loop will be announced sometime in June.

He made the announcement at yesterday’s meeting of the Association of Regional Executives of Metro Manila in preparation for the Earth Day celebration next month.

“Probably by June 9, we will know whom we are to award the bid,” he said at the Monumento Station in Caloocan City where he unfurled tarpaulins on preserving water resources, joined by Philippine Information Agency Secretary Dodie Limcaoco and director Riza Baldoria, Environment Undersecretary Teresita Castillo and representatives from the Education Department and other government agencies.

The P6.3-billion extension line will add three stations—Balintawak, Roosevelt and North Edsa to “close the loop.”

The LRT 1 ferries passengers to Baclaran, Pasay City from Monumento vice versa while LRT 2 serves commuters from Recto, downtown Manila to Santolan, Pasig City both ways.

The Metro Rail Transit is interconnected with LRT 1 on Edsa for commuters up to North Edsa.

According to the Authority, the loop project would be completed in 2010.

“Once the Monumento to North Edsa link is completed, for sure pollution will be reduced,” he told Standard Today, noting that the loop project targetted a 2010 opening.

yehey....sa wakas....matatapos na ito...by 2030.....:lol:

i dont get the news.. would it be one continuous loop? meaning no need to transfer between the different lines? or would the new stations/trains be totally different from the MRT AND the LRT?

I actually know some people are working on the actual design already, should be interesting, i asked if it would look like LRT2 standards but mukang hindi!

^^ i see.. well even if it wont look as good as LRT2 just make the two lines (MRT/LRT) into one interconnected loop and i would be happy.. meaning people can ride from Ayala station all the way to Balintawak station or maybe Blumentritt station of the LRT without getting off. .

dapat last year pa ito sinumulan itong mrt-lrt loop,bakit ba puro press releases na lang.

dapat last year pa ito sinumulan itong mrt-lrt loop,bakit ba puro press releases na lang.

Yes, I remember that press release. But I hope this time, totoo na

hindi pa nagstastart project problema na agad

Gov’t must settle MRT-LRT loop bidding issues to avoid delay
http://bworld.com.ph/BW042108/content.php?id=042

THE GOVERNMENT has two months to resolve the budget issues hounding the electromechanical component of the mass rail link project that seeks to connect the Light Rail Transit (LRT) Line 1’s Monumento station in Caloocan City with the Metro Rail Transit’s (MRT) North Avenue station in Quezon City.

Package C of the project, which involves the installation of signal and wiring equipment, was declared a failed bid after DMCI-First Balfour, the only party qualified to join the bidding, failed to submit its engineering design documents.

The P6.3 billion loop is part of a government plan to create seamless travel and decongest traffic in Metro Manila.

In an interview, D.M. Consunji, Inc. (DMCI) Executive Vice-President Edilberto Palisoc said they had opted not to bid because package C’s budget at P2 billion is not enough.

"If you have to strictly follow [the Light Rail Transit Authority’s] technical specifications, P2 billion is certainly not enough," Mr. Palisoc said. He added that package C should be priced P2.8-P3 billion based on the prices of construction materials such as steel, which he claimed to have doubled.

If the budget is not increased, the state-run LRTA should consider buying the materials directly from suppliers and have the contractor handle the installation. "They have to resolve the issue within the next two months for package C, otherwise [the MRT-LRT Loop] will be delayed," Mr. Palisoc added.

In a telephone interview yesterday, an LRTA official who wished to remain unnamed said they are back to square one following DMCI-First Balfour’s retreat. The LRTA official admitted that going back to the pre-qualification process could delay the project. He said the notice to proceed on all the packages should be given by June 9.

"The [approved budget cost] is just enough, but the LRTA board is doing its due diligence if their proposal [for direct procurement] is viable," the official said.

The MRT-LRT Loop has three components: package A, which is divided in two phases and involves the construction of a viaduct and pedestrian overpass; package B, which will build and modify train stations; and package C, which entails electromechanical works.

The LRTA is examining the engineering designs submitted by the bidders for package A and B. The 5.4-kilometer link is expected to start operating by 2009. The LRT, operated by the LRTA, has two lines: LRT-1, called the Yellow Line and MRT-2, called the Purple Line.

In a related development, Finance Undersecretary and National Treasurer Roberto B. Tan said the government might opt for a combination of borrowings from the bond market and banks to raise funds for the buy-out of the MRT-3. The MRT, operated by the Metro Rail Transit Corp. (MRTC), has a single line called the MRT-3 or Blue Line.

"We will determine the best structure with the best financing mix this quarter. It could be bonds or syndicated loans from banks," he told reporters last week.

The state has been wanting to buy back the rail transit system running on EDSA to save on the costs of subsidizing its operations. The government is also shouldering maintenance costs worth $1.67 million. The government could save as much as $500 million if it takes over the MRT-3 now.

The press statement last year said something like it was supposed to start this year (bidding) so they're in the ball park. I think the article above just wants to cover all bases.

Project Updates

The LRT Line 1 North Extension Project
Brief Description of the Project
The Project involves the construction of a 5.71-km. elevated line seamlessly from Monumento Station of Line 1 to North Avenue Station of Line 3. The scope of works include:

* Civil and Architectural Works, including the construction of the three new stations (Balintawak Station, Roosevelt Station and North Station) as well as improvements of Monumento Station, modification of pedestrian overpasses and the provision and installation of all the required elevators and escalators thereat.
* Electromechanical Works (except rolling stock) which shall have parameters which are the same as that of CAPEX II-A

Estimated Project Cost (in Philippine Pesos)

Civil and Architectural Works Php 3,376.35
Electromechanical Works 1,905.74
Consultancy Services 317.40
Contingency 381.00
Subtotal Php 5,980.49
Inflation Adjustment 342.35
TOTAL 6.322.85
Project Duration

* May 2007 - April 2010
* Defects Liability Period: May 2010 to April 2012

Consultancy Services
The scope of Consulting Services consists of:

* Feasibility Study (demand forecast, financial and economic analysis, financing strategies)
* Engineering Services
* Environmental Impact Assessment
* Assistance in Bidding
* Construction Supervision
* Project Management Support and Public Relations
* Legal Services
* Defects Liability Support

Project Status (as of May 2, 2008)

* Consultancy Contract signed by and between LRTA and Metrolink on April 23, 2007
* NTP to Consultant (May 21, 2007)
* Mobilization of Consultant (May 28, 2007)
* Approval of the Project by joint NEDA-ICC and Cabinet Committe (August 30, 2007)
* NEDA Board approved the Feasibility Report and the source of funding (September 18, 2007)
* Publication of Invitation to bid on October 1, 2007
* Issuance of Eligibility Documents from October 8 to 22, 2007
* Pre-eligibility Conference of the interested bidders on November 6, 2007
* Eligibility submission and opening on November 21, 22 and 23, 2007
* Re-publication of Invitation to Bid (Packages A1, A2, & B) on November 27, 2007
* Re-publication of Invitation to Bid (Package C) on December 15, 2007
* Eligibility re-submission and opening (Packages A1, A2, & B) on December 19, 20 and 21, 2007
* Purchased of bidding documents for Civil Works (Packages A1, A2 & B) of eligible contractors from January 3 to 14, 2008
* Pre-eligibility Conference was held for Package C on January 8, 2008
* Eligibility submission and opening of Package C on January 23, 2008
* Pre-bid Conferences were held for Packages A1, A2 and B on January 22 and 29, 2008
* Selling of Bid Documents to Pre-qualified Bidders for Package C on February 5, 2008
* Pre-bid Conference was held for Package C on February 19, 2008
* Receipt of Technical and Financial Bids and Opening of Technical Bids for Packages A2 & B on March 25 & 26, 2008, respectively.
* Receipt of Technical & Financial Bids and Opening of Technical Bids for Package A1 on March 31, 2008.
* Receipt of Technical Proposals for Packages A1, A2 & B from SBAC for Technical Evaluation on April 4, 2008
* Technical Evaluation of A1 & A2 were completed on April 14, 2008 and advance copy was provided to LRTA for review
* Bidding for Package C was declared as failure; the single bidder did not submit a proposal on April 1, 2008
* Technical Evaluation for Package C was submitted on April 11, 2008
* Opening of Financial Proposal for Packages A1 & B on April 25, 2008

Contract Amount (Metrolink JV)

P 317,397,661 (Consultancy Services)

Consultancy Services for Line 1 North Extension

Work Accomplished (April 1-30, 2008)

1. The bidding for Package C was declared as failed as the single eligible bidder did not submit a proposal on April 1, 2008 stating that the ABC was considered insufficient for a viable construction proposal.

2. On April 4, 2008 the SBAC forwarded the Technical Proposals for Packages A1, A2 and B to the Consultants for Technical Evaluation. The Technical Proposals were received for the following bidders:
a. Package A1 - DMCI-First Balfour JV

b. Package A2 - DMCI-First Balfour JV
FF Cruz & Co., Inc. - Filipinas (Prefab Bldg.) Systems, Inc., JV

c. Package B - DMCI-First Balfour JV
FF Cruz & Co., Inc. - Filipinas (Prefab Bldg.) Systems, Inc., JV
(2 - Eligible Bidders)

3. The SBAC denied the reconsideration request of FF Cruz & Co., Inc. - Filipinas (Prefab Bldg.) Systems Inc., JV for Package B and therefore only one bidder (DMCI) remained eligible.

4. The Technical Evaluation of A1 and A2 were completed on April 14, 2008 and an advance copy of the same was provided to LRTA for review.

5. Subsequent to the failure of the bid for Package C a draft of the new " Invitation for Eligibility" for the Package C (Revised) was provided to LRTA on April 14, 2008.

6. The Technical Evaluation for Package B was submitted to LRTA on April 17, 2008.

7. At a joint meeting between SBAC, TWG and the Consultant on April 23, 2008, it was agreed that the proposal of FF Cruz for Package A 2 was non-compliant and had to be disqualified.

8. The disqualification of FF Cruz & Co., Inc. - Filipinas (Prefab Bldg.) Systems Inc. for Package A2 was communicated to the bidder on April 23, 2008 and the mandatory time was allowed for the request for reconsideration from the bidder. No request for reconsideration was received till April 28, 2008 and, therefore, the disqualification of FF Cruz became final.

9. Following the decision taken on April 23, 2008, the opening of the financial proposals for Packages A1 and B was set for April 24, 2008.

10. A request for new eligibility for Package C (Revised) was published in the dailies on April 25, 2008. The components included in this revised packaging are:

* Substation Power Supply Distribution
* OCS
* Station Services
* System Integration

11. Alternate procurement of specialized sub-systems is being studied. Such sub-systems are:

* Signaling
* Telecommunications
* AFCS
* Trackworks

12. The evaluation of the financial proposals for Packages A1 and B is complete and will be submitted to LRTA on May 2, 2008. Both packages have only one complying bidder each and that is DMCI-First Balfour JV.

13. The schedule for subsequent procurement activities for civil works are as follows:

Activity
Packages A1 Packages A2 Package B
Submission of the Evaluation of the Financial Proposal May 2, 2008 May 9, 2008 May 2, 2008
Contract Signing May 12, 2008 May 16, 2008 May 13, 2008
Notice to Proceed (NTP) (Tentative) June 9, 2008 June 9, 2008 June 9, 2008

14. The proposed revised procurement schedule for the Package C (Revised) is as follows.
The approval by LRTA of this proposed schedule is however, pending

May 5, 2008 - Filing of Letter of Intent/Release of Eligibility Documents
May 6, 2008 - Pre-Eligibility Conference
May 14, 2008 - Opening of Eligibility Documents
May 20, 2008 - Issue and Availability of Bid Docs for Proposal Preparation
May 26, 2008 - Pre-Bid Conference
June 26, 2008 - Submission of Bids and Opening of Technical Proposals
June 26, 2008 - Bid Evaluation (Start)
July 07, 2008 - Bid Evaluation (Finish)
July 11, 2008 - Open Financial Proposal/ Notification for Negotiation
July 22, 2008 - Notice of Award/ Contract Signing
July 28, 2008 - Issuance of Notice to Proceed
Critical Issues

1. Subsequent to the failure of the bidding for Package C, LRTA has requested GPPB for the waiver of the requirement of PCAB license for the procurement of specialized sub-systems, Signaling, Telecommunications, AFCS and Track Works. Such request has since been granted by GPPB.
Following the waiver by GPPB for the requirement of PCAB license for specialized sub-systems the alternate procurement procedures are being studied and the eligibility/bid documents are being suitably modified.

2. A discussion is presently taking place between LRTA and SM Prime Holdings to finalize the agreement for the construction of an aditional station in front of SM annex, between the Roosevelt and North Avenue stations of the Line 1 North Extension Project. Such station would be constructed at the cost of SM.

A suitable cost/benefit analysis is presently being financed by SM to establish the benefits that would accrue for LRTA should such an additional station be constructed.

In view of the fact that the proposed additional station would also serve Line 7, it has to be recognized that any agreement between LRTA and SM pertaining to the additional station would also have to include the proponents of the Line 7.


For more information
Please contact:

Engineer Engr. Federico J. Canar
Project OIC, Package A
Tel. # +63(2)851-7338 or at
Tel. # +63(2)853-0042 local 8888

Project Updates

The LRT Line 1 South Extension Project

BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF THE PROJECT

The project aims to extend the existing 15km LRT Line 1 System southward by an additional 11.7km, of which approximately 10.5km will be elevated and 1.2km will be at-grade. The Extension will start from the existing line's last station at Baclaran and will traverse the cities of Parañaque and Las Piñas in Metro Manila and reach the municipality of Bacoor. The extension will initially include 8 new passenger stations with a provision of 2 additional passenger stations. A satellite depot for light rail vehicle (LRV) storage and light maintenance will be located at the southern end of the proposed line. Intermodal facilities will also be installed at high-demand stations.

The project will also involve System Enhancement Works over the concesion period, which would include fleets upgrade, replacement and capacity improvements. A total of 64 LRVs will be added in 2020 and 8 LRVs in 2030.

ESTIMATED PROJECT COST (Constant 2005 Prices)



USD 683 M (Php 36,199)

Conversion Rate: Php 53/USD

FUNDING SOURCE/ LOAN AMOUNT:

FOREIGN Proposed USD 260 Million loan with World Bank

GOP

FOREX CONVERSION: N/A
STATUS (as of April 8, 2008)

* Ongoing project appraisal by the World Bank project preparation team.
* MOA between DPWH and LRTA for the ROW was signed last June 04 2007.
* MOA between PRA and LRTA was signed on September 27, 2007.
* Parcellary survey of 110 affected properties completed.
* Negotiation with the private property owners for the acquisition of the ROW is now in full swing to show GOP's commitment in the immediate implementation and completion of the project.
* Evaluation of Consultant for the conduct of social Preparation, Community Relations, and other Pre-relocations Activities on-going
* SARO in the amount of Php 1.5 Billion and NCA amounting to Php 980,627,198.00 for the ROW was issued last December 27, 2007

ANNUAL FUNDING REQUIREMENTS: (Php M) 2007 2008 2009 2010 onwards TOTAL
Right of Way/ Related preparatory Works 1,563.50 2,042.62 3,606.12
Civil Works/ Equipment 1,000.64 5,300.00 7,479.36 13,780.00
TOTAL 1,563.50 3,043.26 5,300.00 7,479.36 17,386.12

TARGETS

Activities Target Date
Issuance of MYOA Immediate
Launch of Competitive Tender After issuance of MYOA
Contract Award
Loan Approval
Contract Effectivity
Start of Construction
Start Of Operation (Phase I)
(Baclaran to Dr. Santos Ave., Parañaque)
Start Of Operation (Phase II)
(Dr. Santos Ave., to Niyog, Bacoor, Cavite)


http://www.lrta.gov.ph/projects/photos/Line1_SouthExt/Line1_SouthExt_01.jpg




For more information

Please contact:

ENGR. DANILO S. TOLENTINO
Project Manager
Tel. # +63(2)854-0980 or at
Tel. # +63(2)853-0042 local 8361
Fax # 8540980

from LRTA website

^^ nice one.. thanks much @kratos1211..

so lrt 1 north extension is seamless.. that is good to know.. i hope everything will be in order so the digging can start asap..

eh ano naman po kaya ang updates sa approved MRT 7 (Universal LRT), meron na po bang contract signed????? Salamat!!
English: how about the approved MRT 7 project, are there any updates (ie. signed contract) Thanks!

I believe approved na yung contract ng MRT7 if I'm not mistaken.. though wala pang bagong news..

para san yung commercial? & bakit pilipinas ang setting?

Long time lurker of this forum, first time posting. Sa Madrid, may Islas Filipinas station. Yoon ang source ng commercial.

Look at the orange 7 line sa kaliwa where it makes a 90-degree turn between the two transfer stations:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/79/Madrid-metro-map.png

^^ yep. :cheers:
source: http://www.pbase.com/buno813/espana
http://k53.pbase.com/v3/14/444814/1/47895944.IslasFilipinasMadridMetro.jpg

http://k53.pbase.com/v3/14/444814/1/49118054.q21.jpg

IMO. the MRT/LRT should have an Espana station.

Perhaps one day we will have ESPAÑA Station. :) A line that will run along España and connects to MRT 7.

Perhaps one day we will have ESPAÑA Station. :) A line that will run along España and connects to MRT 7.

this is the mrt line 4, correct me if I'm wrong, red line nga ata name nito eh kaya lang scrapped ata in favor of other lines :D

meron pa ngang UST station sa plan eh hehehe

Actuallly yung line 4 ang pinakagusto ko na maumpisahan/unahin kaagad sa lahat na plano na lines, kaya lang ayun napunta ang attention sa iba :(

this is the mrt line 4, correct me if I'm wrong, red line nga ata name nito eh kaya lang scrapped ata in favor of other lines :D

meron pa ngang UST station sa plan eh hehehe

Actuallly yung line 4 ang pinakagusto ko na maumpisahan/unahin kaagad sa lahat na plano na lines, kaya lang ayun napunta ang attention sa iba :(Sabi sa previous threads hindi na daw puwede kasi bawal na ata ang elevated rail sa City of Manila.

Sosyal ang metro ng Madrid, napaka-extensive kahit na ang population ng metro nila ay: Metro 5,561,748 at ang city: 3,228,359 compared sa Manila na city: 1,660,714 and metro: 11,553,427.

Kailan pa kaya tayo magkakaroon ng ganyang kagandang network ng mga tren sa Maynila? Nakita ko yung mga proposed layout ng mga bagong itatayong tren kaya lang kailan pa kaya? Tatlo pa lang ang meron tayo tapos hindi pa interconnected.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3e/MetroManilaComplete.JPG

At least ito kung makukumpleto ang lahat ng ito magiging competitive ang Manila sa ibang lungsod na may rail transit.

Kailan pa kaya tayo magkakaroon ng ganyang kagandang network ng mga tren sa Maynila? Nakita ko yung mga proposed layout ng mga bagong itatayong tren kaya lang kailan pa kaya? Tatlo pa lang ang meron tayo tapos hindi pa interconnected.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3e/MetroManilaComplete.JPG

At least ito kung makukumpleto ang lahat ng ito magiging competitive ang Manila sa ibang lungsod na may rail transit.

sana nga magawa lahat ng lines na yan xD

just for fun, ano pa bang mga lines ang pwede gawin sa metro manila? kasi I think trains are one of the answers for easing up the traffic and I was thinking/dreaming if a subway can be constructed sa edsa to support MRT xD

just for fun, ano pa bang mga lines ang pwede gawin sa metro manila? kasi I think trains are one of the answers for easing up the traffic and I was thinking/dreaming if a subway can be constructed sa edsa to support MRT xD

Ako, I would like to have this line:
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii177/ericlucky290/Forum/Manilaline1.jpg
LRT- Buendia to The Fort connecting North Rail and pass thought Ayala Ave.
Red line is underground and with the option to extend the line to CCP to connect Business District to the Cultural Hub of the country.

And wish to have this airport subway:
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii177/ericlucky290/Forum/Manilaline2.jpg

There is actually an airport subway (more a people mover) planned ,along with an underpass for cars so that access all the way from south super to T2 is quick

Robles of lrta also suggested a quick rail link from the depot to t3, apparently not much money, i think this is quite doable, it would make sense to link it with south rail if possible, di na malayo iyon

ayala is actually looking to build a BRT line between makati and the fort, both taguig and makati are on board for the project

There is actually an airport subway (more a people mover) planned ,along with an underpass for cars so that access all the way from south super to T2 is quick

Robles of lrta also suggested a quick rail link from the depot to t3, apparently not much money, i think this is quite doable, it would make sense to link it with south rail if possible, di na malayo iyon

ayala is actually looking to build a BRT line between makati and the fort, both taguig and makati are on board for the project

I think a subway is effective on the makati cbd and the fort unless the brt line is also underground, the fastest way from makati cbd to the fort passes thru residential areas lalo na may mga malalaking bahay na matatama at siyempre magrereklamo sila.

Perhaps one day we will have ESPAÑA Station. :) A line that will run along España and connects to MRT 7.

sa tayuman yata meron na e
but ye itll be best if put one by trabajo market

I think a subway is effective on the makati cbd and the fort unless the brt line is also underground, the fastest way from makati cbd to the fort passes thru residential areas lalo na may mga malalaking bahay na matatama at siyempre magrereklamo sila.

I was told by Jim Ayala that he thought a subway to Fort Boni would be a pipe dream, perhaps it would happen but he thinks probably not on his watch! Too expensive daw. It's probably why they've undertaken studies on their own to add some sort of mass transit line on their own. Fort Boni needs the mass transit link NOW, it can be seen clearly with posts by Fort Boni workers.

It will probably use the buendia fort skyway as both ends of the overpass (on 32nd st and buendia) are wide. Plus it can do a mrt 3 exchange station without much money. This is speculation on my part as I can't imagine how they would do it on Mckinley.

BRT pa gusto ninyo, rubber-tyred metro na lang kung gagawin na rin lang underground para may BRT ka na parang tren, combination of both technologies, parang ganito:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/ST_SN5000_20061102_001.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Metro-Paris-Rame-MP-73-Lign.jpg/800px-Metro-Paris-Rame-MP-73-Lign.jpg

Anyway, building a subway in the middle of an airport is dangerous since the planes could exceed the load limit of the support beams especially when landing.

^^ ahahaha,.. nice!,. :lol:
pero hassle ata ang pag palit ng gulong,.

para sa rail line na hinde kailangan ng kuryente which is good xD

kailangan pa rin ng kuryente niyan gaya ng linya ng kuryente na nakikita ninyo sa MRT/LRT.

iba ang gulong niyan, mas matibay pa sa gulong ng isang bus iyan.

ito ang article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber-tyred_metro

BRT pa gusto ninyo, rubber-tyred metro na lang kung gagawin na rin lang underground para may BRT ka na parang tren, combination of both technologies, parang ganito:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/ST_SN5000_20061102_001.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Metro-Paris-Rame-MP-73-Lign.jpg/800px-Metro-Paris-Rame-MP-73-Lign.jpg

Anyway, building a subway in the middle of an airport is dangerous since the planes could exceed the load limit of the support beams especially when landing.

Hey, parang sa China, Taiwan, or Japan 'yan.

yung blue sa France pa galing...

hmm, meron bang mrt/lrt line 5? wala kasi akong makita sa map na pinorovide sa previous page or any press release :D

I'm not really sure, but i believe Line 5 is the proposed metromanila loop - northrail connecting naia to metro manila and to the north...

The metro manila loop part will be underground then it will be northward

I'm not really sure, but i believe Line 5 is the proposed metromanila loop - northrail connecting naia to metro manila and to the north...

The metro manila loop part will be underground then it will be northward

Ahh okay...

I hope meron ding rail line traversing C5 that will link NAIA, global city, eastwood, the schools in katipunan and will end on line 7

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/ST_SN5000_20061102_001.jpg


Ang masasabi ko lang dito is astig talaga tong tren, sa sobrang hi tech kahit patalikod magmaneho ang tsuper puedeng puede

Ang masasabi ko lang dito is astig talaga tong tren, sa sobrang hi tech kahit patalikod magmaneho ang tsuper puedeng puede:lol::rock:

Ang masasabi ko lang dito is astig talaga tong tren, sa sobrang hi tech kahit patalikod magmaneho ang tsuper puedeng puede

Hindi siya ang driver, security guard lang siya...

There are actually two operators for these trains. One drives and the other mans the doors, depending on which direction the trains are headed to. Nagpapalit lang ng function yung dalawa.

On another note, there aren't any plans for trains along the C5 alignment. I hear it's being reserved for BRT. Rail is still too expensive an option. Mismanaged lang ang bus services kaya madalas pangit delivery ng services.

Ang masasabi ko lang dito is astig talaga tong tren, sa sobrang hi tech kahit patalikod magmaneho ang tsuper puedeng puede

nde... papalayo yung tren. kita mo ung gulong, clockwise ang iko:)t.. :banana:

ay paano pag may napflatan na kahit isang gulong lang dyan, ano ba yan tubeless ba?

hmm, meron bang mrt/lrt line 5? wala kasi akong makita sa map na pinorovide sa previous page or any press release :D

Maps that I saw before noted Line 5 as the trans-Metro Manila portions of Northrail. Since that (apparently) didn't push through, both lines 4 and 5 are open.

meu Deus

Authority gives nod to
SM North Annex station

SM Prime Holdings Inc. and state-run Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA) are finalizing an agreement for the construction of an additional station for the Light Rail Transit Line 1 (LRT 1) North Extension project in Quezon City.

The LRTA said the additional station will be located in front of SM North Annex between the Roosevelt and North Avenue stations of the LRT 1 North Extension project.

In its project update, LRTA said SM Prime would foot the bill for the said station.

LRTA had estimated the cost of the additional station at about P100 million. SM Prime has financed a cost-benefit analysis to determine the benefits that would accrue to LRTA should the station be constructed.

“In view of the fact that the proposed additional station would also serve [Metro Rail Transit] Line 7, it has to be recognized that any agreement between LRTA and SM [Prime] pertaining to the additional station would also have to include the proponents of Line 7,” the LRTA said.

A consortium led by Universal LRT Corp. has proposed to build the MRT 7. The consortium is composed of Siemens AG of Germany, Alstom Corp. of France; China National Technical Import and Export Corp., EL International Holdings of Hong Kong, Earth Tech of Tyco International USA, Premier Gold of Japan, Redford Assets Ltd. of the SM group, EEI Corp., Penta Capital Management Corp., Merlin Pacific Capital Inc., TCGI Engineers, and private investors such as George Go and former Finance Secretary Roberto de Ocampo.

The LRT North Extension is estimated to cost around P6.32 billion, and involves the construction and detailed design of a 5.71-kilometer elevated line from Monumento station of LRT 1 to North Avenue of MRT 3. The project would also entail construction of new intermediate stations at Balintawak and Roosevelt, and a terminal station at North Avenue.

The Balintawak station will provide modal interchange with bus and jeepney services entering Metro Manila from the north via the North Luzon Expressway.

Of the P6.32-billion project cost, civil and architectural works would cost P3.3 billion; electromechanical works, P1.9 billion; consultancy services, P317.4 million; contingency, P318 million and inflation adjustment, P342.35 million.

The project will begin construction this year, with target completion in April 2010. Once running, the LRT North Extension is expected to serve about 800,000 to 1 million passengers.
-- Darwin G. Amojelar
Manila Times

“In view of the fact that the proposed additional station would also serve [Metro Rail Transit] Line 7, it has to be recognized that any agreement between LRTA and SM [Prime] pertaining to the additional station would also have to include the proponents of Line 7, the LRTA said.

^^ It looks like the original plan for the LRT7 terminus station, as shown in the rendering below, replacing MRT3 with LRT1 instead, could be happening after all. So instead of a terminus station beside the existing MRT3 terminus station beside TriNoma, it would be beside SM North Annex. It does makes sense from the LRT7 technical standpoint since terminating beside the MRT3 terminus would require a very sharp turn. However, this means all the more reason why LRT1 and MRT3 has to be linked physically because unless there is an LRT7 station beside TriNoma in North Avenue (near the Mindanao Avenue intersection side), those coming from Novaliches will find transferring to the MRT3 terminus to be quite a long long walk...:ohno:

Rendering
http://www.ulc.com.ph/Images/Stn1-Sec.jpg

Old diagram of the terminus, still showing MRT3 being extended.
http://www.ulc.com.ph/Images/Station-1.jpg

ang layo naman. sana nga may link from MRT to LRT! or magbabayad din ang Ayala para sa sarili nilang station :lol:

^^ oo nga ang layo.. jabar-jabar ka na pagkarating mo sa office... pero they can make a covered non-/elevated walkway to connect these stations. it could be cheaper. but at least they would connect lrt 1 to mrt 7 if not with mrt 3..

i'm thinking they would start this project if the rotunda in monumento will be under some type or revision/relocation, if they are planning it to be a seamless connection as of current news.. but no movement at all in monumento, as of this week.

queetz@home, i think that the terminal line is still at the North Avenue MRT. They did mention that this one is an additional station. If you're from Novaliches going to Makati, you'd take the LRT7 to SM City Annex Station, take the LRT1 to the North Avenue Station and take the MRT3 to Ayala Avenue. Ano, bus ka na lang? Hehehe.

Sana naman the LRT 1 trains can run on the MRT Track na lang para nang hassle sa paglipat ng tren.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2177/2318838374_e47a28b9f8.jpg?v=0
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2186/2318838806_11b9afb492.jpg?v=0

proposed MRT 7 station 1

pictures from www.ulc.com.ph

smaller picture for easier viewing

Ayun mas nakikita!

estimate ko, mas malayo yan kesa sa Recto - Doroteo Jose station link.. sana kahit sa harap nlng mismo ng SM NoE ilagay ang station..

^^ oo nga ang layo.. jabar-jabar ka na pagkarating mo sa office... pero they can make a covered non-/elevated walkway to connect these stations. it could be cheaper. but at least they would connect lrt 1 to mrt 7 if not with mrt 3..

i'm thinking they would start this project if the rotunda in monumento will be under some type or revision/relocation, if they are planning it to be a seamless connection as of current news.. but no movement at all in monumento, as of this week.

I think it will be seamless because it was mentioned in their website.

Project Updates

The LRT Line 1 North Extension Project
Brief Description of the Project
The Project involves the construction of a 5.71-km. elevated line seamlessly from Monumento Station of Line 1 to North Avenue Station of Line 3.

from LRTA website


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I think it will be seamless because it was mentioned in their website.




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IF YOU BUILT IT, THEY WILL COME

when you say seamless is the rail interconnected so that the trains of both lines can traverse each line? or seamless na in such a way na connected lang sila pero the trains of both lines can't traverse the other line? sensiya medyo confusing hope you get the point xD

i think the lrt1 extension is the only seamless one, as of current plans.. then you hop to either mrt7 or mrt3 in the north ave station...

Just rode Yellow Line earlier from terminal to terminal...susme, natatakot ako sa G-1 na mga trains na kasi pakiramdam ko parang madidiskaril somewhere between Monumento and R.Papa...The LRT trains there run so fast and there was excessive vibration all around, that is for G-1 trains. :runaway:

The G-3 trains on the other hand runs smoothly with the same track as G-1. Less vibration but the alarm noise is quite irritating...but overall, the G-3 trains are good! :okay:

Just rode Yellow Line earlier from terminal to terminal...susme, natatakot ako sa G-1 na mga trains na kasi pakiramdam ko parang madidiskaril somewhere between Monumento and R.Papa...The LRT trains there run so fast and there was excessive vibration all around, that is for G-1 trains. :runaway:

The G-3 trains on the other hand runs smoothly with the same track as G-1. Less vibration but the alarm noise is quite irritating...but overall, the G-3 trains are good! :okay:

Hindi lang yan, karamihan ng mga G-1 trains ay walang aircon :eek: Mas maganda ang G-3 ng LRT-1. Dapat yun rin ang gawin sa MRT

Hindi ba puwedeng gawin na continuous(?) yung coaches ng LRT1 parang tulad ng LRT2? Ang hirap kasi ng putol putol.

Hindi ba puwedeng gawin na continuous(?) yung coaches ng LRT1 parang tulad ng LRT2? Ang hirap kasi ng putol putol.

Problema kasi, light-rail configuration ang LRT-1. And LRT-2 ay heavy rail. Pero marami rin heavy rail transit na katulad ng MRT katulad ng NY subway, some German autobahn at iba pa :)

^^ ohh i see :D

I think both LRT1 and MRT3 uses the same gauge track. When the government buys out MRT3. I hope they make the trains of LRT1 and MRT3 tranverse each other tracks for a continous loop, taft ave to north ave. then to monumento then to baclaran and vice versa.


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Pagdating sa mga tren eh walang sing asteg ang japan, lalo na ang tokyo! kailan kaya magiging ganito ang manila?

pagdating sa rail systems, favorite ko talaga ang japan!!!!

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/5779/tokyorailsystemwc6.jpg

eto pa. ano masasabi ng London Underground o Metro de Madrid dito. hehehehe

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/5108/tokyosubwayroutemapbw4.png

^^ If only the LRT were that comprehensive. Dapat nasa LRTA na yung MRT-3, and revive MRT-4 as a subway under España and Quezon Avenue. MRT-5 and MRT-7 should be new lines, and I want to see MRT-8 realized. :D

I think both LRT1 and MRT3 uses the same gauge track. When the government buys out MRT3. I hope they make the trains of LRT1 and MRT3 tranverse each other tracks for a continous loop, taft ave to north ave. then to monumento then to baclaran and vice versa.

All lines (LRT-1, MRT-2 and MRT-3) use standard gauge track. Interconnection though is a very ambitious project.

I still think though that MRT-3 should connect to Monumento, not LRT-1 connecting to North Avenue. IMHO, it's very illogical.

All lines (LRT-1, MRT-2 and MRT-3) use standard gauge track. Interconnection though is a very ambitious project.

I still think though that MRT-3 should connect to Monumento, not LRT-1 connecting to North Avenue. IMHO, it's very illogical.

i think it's because of ownership issues. LRT-1 is owned and operated by LRTA and MRT is operated by a private consortium. Mas feasible for LRT to initiate the extension from LRT-1 since they already control it than for MRT-3, itself being unprofitable and living off gov't subsidies.

Baka naman may kakilala kayo from LRTA who can shed light on this interconnection issue. Frankly speaking, i think it's doable. The technology is surely available. It might be costly pero it should be doable.

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Another problem that needs to be addressed is the way passenger volume and timeliness is managed. There should be a fixed timetable of trains. With more trains operating in peak hours and less on off-peak hours for efficiency.

Pero right now, hindi pa naman issue to since there's just three lines that don't even interconnect. But when we start to have four or six interconnecting systems, there should be a timetable set for each line. hindi yung basta basta na lang nagdedeploy ng train.

I think both LRT1 and MRT3 uses the same gauge track. When the government buys out MRT3. I hope they make the trains of LRT1 and MRT3 tranverse each other tracks for a continous loop, taft ave to north ave. then to monumento then to baclaran and vice versa.

All lines (LRT-1, MRT-2 and MRT-3) use standard gauge track. Interconnection though is a very ambitious project.

Even if the track gauge is the same on all three lines, interconnecting them all (if at all possible) would also require them to use the same operating current. For instance, from what I remember, I think LRT-1's current is at 750 Volts DC (at least that's what it claims in this book I have about the LRT - "From The Top" by Jose P. Dans, Jr., published c. 1991); maybe the other two lines operate at more or less the same voltage rate? (Any information confirming this will be greatly appreciated.)

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http://subway.umka.org/maps/new-york.gif

THE New York City Subway Train System is far, far, far from being the best.
But New York City wouldn't be what it is today, IMHO "the capital city of the world!" without it's subway train system. They started building it more than 100 years ago and guess what, it is not yet complete.

The New York City subway system is one of the most efficient people transports in the entire world. The hot and dingy subway system of the 1970's has been completely renovated into a safe, convenient and comfortable mode of transportation between nearly all areas of New York City. Over 4.3 million people ride the subway system every day; over 1 billion people go through the turnstiles per year! While minor theft and homelessness still abound, the subway is a much better place than was predicted back in the financially troubled days of the city.
Fares
The primary method of fare payment is the Metrocard. All subway stations and busses are now Metrocard capable. Tokens are also available, and cost $2.00 each.

Metrocards can be bought on a pay-per-ride basis ($2.00 per ride) or an unlimited ride basis. With pay-per-ride, you get 11 rides for the price of ten and you can add more money to your card if need be. With unlimited ride Metrocards, you can get a 30 day card, a 7 day card, or a 1 day Fun Pass.

Children under 44" tall ride for free; senior citizens and disabled people ride for a reduced fare.

Look, we do not have to re-invent the wheel, many other subway systems around the world studied existing systems and took note of it's advantages and faults, before they applied it to their own situation. Metro Manila can do the same. We can built a better one that best suits our needs now and in the future.

:horse:
J.P.

Yes these subway lines are big but they get really chaotic. Compare it with HK's MTR which to be is the best metro in the world :)

http://www.hongkongairport.com/eng/img/mtr_map.jpg

Doesn't this look organized?

^^ I agree!! When I'm in Hong Kong, I always take the MTR when going to Causeway Bay or Wan Chai or Disneyland. It's really very futuristic.. I wonder why Imeldific didn't pattern the Line 1 after the MTR? And also i commend Singapore for not following our "LRT mistake". peace sa mga Manila LRT fans.

i think it's because of ownership issues. LRT-1 is owned and operated by LRTA and MRT is operated by a private consortium. Mas feasible for LRT to initiate the extension from LRT-1 since they already control it than for MRT-3, itself being unprofitable and living off gov't subsidies.

Baka naman may kakilala kayo from LRTA who can shed light on this interconnection issue. Frankly speaking, i think it's doable. The technology is surely available. It might be costly pero it should be doable.

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Another problem that needs to be addressed is the way passenger volume and timeliness is managed. There should be a fixed timetable of trains. With more trains operating in peak hours and less on off-peak hours for efficiency.

Pero right now, hindi pa naman issue to since there's just three lines that don't even interconnect. But when we start to have four or six interconnecting systems, there should be a timetable set for each line. hindi yung basta basta na lang nagdedeploy ng train.

I do not, and I have no intention to ever return to the offices of the LRTA (humingi man ng permiso para mag-picture, 'di naman binigay). As far as I know, the DOTC and the MRTC are in charge of MRT-3, with the MRTC in charge of repair works and physical maintenance of the system and trains, while the DOTC is in charge of setting fares in conjunction with the MRTC. Basta, the government should buy out MRT-3.

The rail transit situation in the Philippines is very confusing already. You have the LRTA, MRTC/DOTC and soon URC (MRT-7) competing for one another. There should be only one regulator of the entire network, or two at most.

^^That's why halo-halo is our fave desert.:lol:

Napabayaan nga ang rail sector with so many players (or entities). Sana may isa na lang na Metropolitan Authority for MM so that rail services can be fully integrated. As it is, transfers are really inconvenient and the ticketing sucks.

^^ I agree!! When I'm in Hong Kong, I always take the MTR when going to Causeway Bay or Wan Chai or Disneyland. It's really very futuristic.. I wonder why Imeldific didn't pattern the Line 1 after the MTR? And also i commend Singapore for not following our "LRT mistake". peace sa mga Manila LRT fans.

Actually the mistake here is creating a light rail system for a city with more than 10 million people. KL on the other hand can get away with using light-rail metro within its city centre since their population is around 2 million plus its not as congested as Manila. Especially with the MRT its light rail and it gets overcrowded. Plus the ticketing system use is pathetic where the customer have to queue in the counter just to buy a ticket. In fact the MRT is the ultimate failure among Metro Manila's metro system. At least the LRT-1 has upgraded some of its rail cars.

LRT-2 however was done right with the usage of heavy rail cars plus a ticketing machine. It makes it more efficient

Actually the mistake here is creating a light rail system for a city with more than 10 million people. KL on the other hand can get away with using light-rail metro within its city centre since their population is around 2 million plus its not as congested as Manila. Especially with the MRT its light rail and it gets overcrowded. Plus the ticketing system use is pathetic where the customer have to queue in the counter just to buy a ticket. In fact the MRT is the ultimate failure among Metro Manila's metro system. At least the LRT-1 has upgraded some of its rail cars.

LRT-2 however was done right with the usage of heavy rail cars plus a ticketing machine. It makes it more efficient

The thing that makes the MRT a failure is the fact that when you are boarding the MRT, you are all squeezed up. Parang sardinas sa sikip pero ang natatawa ako e yung mga stations actually e mas mahaba pa sa kanilang mga tren. They could always invest in more trains right? Speaking of the ticketing system, may ticket machines na sa MRT pero ang problema, masyadong maliit ang stations kaya ang pila talaga e umaabot ng isang kilometro. If they are going to extend MRT up to Monumento (yung planned terminus nito kasi you all see naman, they always make mention of Monumento as their last stop but the terminal isn't existing!) e dapat double-decker station para ma-handle ng station ang sangkatutak na tao and of course, buy not just new trains but also longer ones, mas mahaba pa talaga ang mga stations nila kaysa sa mga tren nila.

@WANCH:
LRT is very efficient especially when the population is too high, it is not a mistake actually, it is the best thing they did. However, what makes this thing bad is the fact that we do not yet have the sufficient number of trains to transport this huge amount of people.

Any plans for a subway system here in the Philippines guys?

The thing that makes the MRT a failure is the fact that when you are boarding the MRT, you are all squeezed up. Parang sardinas sa sikip pero ang natatawa ako e yung mga stations actually e mas mahaba pa sa kanilang mga tren. They could always invest in more trains right? Speaking of the ticketing system, may ticket machines na sa MRT pero ang problema, masyadong maliit ang stations kaya ang pila talaga e umaabot ng isang kilometro. If they are going to extend MRT up to Monumento (yung planned terminus nito kasi you all see naman, they always make mention of Monumento as their last stop but the terminal isn't existing!) e dapat double-decker station para ma-handle ng station ang sangkatutak na tao and of course, buy not just new trains but also longer ones, mas mahaba pa talaga ang mga stations nila kaysa sa mga tren nila.

@WANCH:
LRT is very efficient especially when the population is too high, it is not a mistake actually, it is the best thing they did. However, what makes this thing bad is the fact that we do not yet have the sufficient number of trains to transport this huge amount of people.

Any plans for a subway system here in the Philippines guys?

@ barrera_marquez:
I think what wanch is trying to say is that a light rail system is inadequate for the population of metro manila as opposed to a heavy rail system. But I think, in answer to this, any rail system, light or heavy, if it's not as extensive and as comprehensive and it doesn't take into consideration the way people move would not be efficient.

Any plans for a subway system here in the Philippines guys?

Correct me if I am wrong, I remember that the MRT3 Ayala Station and the Ayala Edsa Interchange was built with provision for a future 20?? underground Makati LRT loop or Makati Business District people mover.

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^^ I don't think subways would even make the cut in the Philippines. I'd want an underground expressway or even that underground version of the elevated U-turn slot in Kalayaan...but no, the MMDA says it will get easily flooded and it's too expensive.

I'd rather see a Philippine version of the Big Dig :lol:. Or, at least our next few MRT lines are underground. Why do you think MRT-4 failed?

Why do you think MRT-4 failed?

MRT 4 failed because of route overlap with MRT7. see picture below

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3105/2496083567_77ffc14731_b.jpg

^^ It was a rhetorical question. I know why MRT-4 failed. And if I remember correctly, Atienza was against it because an elevated metro line would be a blight on España. I still think it's a better route than MRT-7. :D

I do notice though that Bicutan, Sucat, Muntinlupa and Buli stations are missing from Southrail, Northrail is missing (Northrail should be Tutuban-Caloocan and in green) and MRT-7 is in the wrong color. Maybe MRT-7 is the new Red Line. :lol:

meron ba update sa construction ng mrt7, kase approve na itong project nato last year pa. thanks

MRT 4 failed because of route overlap with MRT7. see picture below

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2072/2495562318_058edc711d_b.jpg

Yung green line nga dapat ang matanggal diyan kasi parang overlapping lang siya sa red.

^^ It was a rhetorical question. I know why MRT-4 failed. And if I remember correctly, Atienza was against it because an elevated metro line would be a blight on España. I still think it's a better route than MRT-7. :D

I do notice though that Bicutan, Sucat, Muntinlupa and Buli stations are missing from Southrail, Northrail is missing (Northrail should be Tutuban-Caloocan and in green) and MRT-7 is in the wrong color. Maybe MRT-7 is the new Red Line. :lol:

Maybe they can do just like what they do in EDSA by making it on ground (kaya lang baka abutin ng baha and more traffic :ohno:). Sabi nga ng prof ko, kung gusto gagawan ng paraan, kapag ayaw gagawan at gagawan ng dahilan :lol:

Saka oks lang naman magoverlap/magsabay on some section, it happens on other rail lines around the world. Kaya lang nakakalito nga lang kasi baka mamaya kung sa line 7 ka dapat sumakay sa line 4 ka pala napadpad.

^^ That's why an underground MRT is still better for Manila. An underground railway system provides for a better interchangability between lines, especially overlapping ones..

Kuya WANCH, pakipost naman dito yung diagram kung paano yung interchangability sa MTR. Ex: From Tsuen Wan Line to Kwun Tong Line.

Mas malakas lang ang proponents ng mrt 7 to mrt 4, they were not supposed to pass there but pinadaan nila para mas malaki kita nila, tingnan natin kung matuloy itong dalawa

mrt 3 is bursting in capacity because no money has been poured into it. It's losing money but the GOP has not paid up it's guarantee in a long time in anticipation off a buyout, after the buyout (which has not happened yet) one of the key things that is planned for is to increase the numbers of trains per trainset ( from 3 to 4) and run more trainsets, this is to increase the capacity.

Having a light rail line is immaterial in terms of capacity if the line is just carrying people, you can still have a million person a day line using light rail (basic a light gauge and carrying capacity), if you are carrying cargo then you need heavy rail lines but this is not applicable to the light rail system we are talking about here.

Anything underground is nice as some people don't like to see the trains but you probably will not see it for another 10 or 20 years or more as it's MULTIPLES TIMES more expensive in expense. There are many other projects just as worthy or even more important than building the light rail system underground right now.

^^ I think it's a result of poor planning. Manila should have invested in a heavy-rail metro, not an elevated light-rail metro. Kaya nga sinasabi nila, mas maganda na ang Bangkok, lalo pa ang Singapore!

To think we pioneered rail rapid transport in Southeast Asia. :(

Sayang nga yung MRT 4 i think pwde pa siya i push mag-rererout na lang siya para hindi mag-overlap sa MRT 7 which will serve sa transportation of the people coming from Bulacan and novaliches QC.

for mas type ko yung Elevated maganda kasi yung view pwde ka mag-sightseing and easy to build compare to subway na it takes time to build like yung subway portion ng lrt 2 sa may katipunan alam ko bata pa ako around 12yrs old ako nun ginagawa yun tapos sobrang traffic tapos kailan siya naging operational 17 years old na ako noon!hehehe

Hindi ko naman sinasabi na i dont like underground transit i like it also pero mas madali ata in may opinion na mag-tayo vertically kaysa mag-hukay di ba?

IMHO!

^^ That's why we have tunnel boring machines. Haha.

If I remember right, Atienza claimed that MRT-4 would be a blight on España the way LRT-1 is now: businesses are forced to close because of lack of visibility on the roads. Also, he claims that an elevated metro makes the area gloomier and more prone to air pollution (kaya nga ang dumi ng support columns ng LRT-1), and in turn, crime rates would increase.

If we started investing in an underground metro, at least we won't have people jumping out of their dorms (or wherever) to their deaths in Vito Cruz! :lol:

With or without the LRTs, Manila business are closing due to neglect, crime, traffic, congestion, pollution, lack of economic support, poor urban planning, lots of slums areas.
I suggest that the goverment of Manila buys back a whole neighborhood and put it up for new development. Not the piecemeal or cosmetic type of development of what Atienza did. This is to attract back the middle class who have move out to the other cities.

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IF YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME

MRT 4 failed because of route overlap with MRT7. see picture below

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3105/2496083567_77ffc14731_b.jpg

Solution is easy but it will require significant investments which will be worth it 20 years from now. Put it underground and make MRT 4 like an express train service instead by building stations where passenger volume is high between two lines touching each other. It is still a good project. Route overlap shouldn't be an excuse.

Solution is easy but it will require significant investments which will be worth it 20 years from now. Put it underground
Espanya is one of the most flood prone areas...underground is just no :ohno:

Espanya is one of the most flood prone areas...underground is just no :ohno:

tama bahain ang espanya (not the country). baka imbis na maging subway iyan maging isang malaking tubo ng tubig iyan (kanal maybe?)

^^ Kahit bahahin Espanya, there are engineering solutions to the flood not entering the subway tunnel and stations. Tignan niyo Bangkok, mas malala pa baha dun kesa sa CAMANAVA at Espanya, pero nakagawa sila ng underground metro na hindi pinapasok ng baha.

^^ Build something similar to this, change the cars for train.

http://www.mmc.com.my/images/img-smart01.jpg
SMART’s grand vision for a new future for Kuala Lumpur is becoming an imminent reality.

The ingenious SMART Project is a stormwater channel and motorway passage merged into a single tunnel. Was completed last June 2007, SMART has put Malaysia on the map of international engineering feats.
Innovative and cost-effective solution
SMART is an innovative and cost-effective solution that addresses two distinct problems in Kuala Lumpur: major floods caused by heavy rains during the monsoon season and severe traffic congestion along city streets during peak hours.

http://www.mmc.com.my/images/pic-SMART-01.gifhttp://www.mmc.com.my/images/pic-SMART-01a.gif

1. No storm, low rainfall
No flood water will be diverted into the SMART system.

http://www.mmc.com.my/images/pic-SMART-02.gifhttp://www.mmc.com.my/images/pic-SMART-02a.gif

2. Moderate storm
The SMART system will be activated and flood water will be diverted into the bypass tunnel in the lower channel of the motorway. Up to this point, the motorway will still be open to traffic.

http://www.mmc.com.my/images/pic-SMART-03.gifhttp://www.mmc.com.my/images/pic-SMART-03a.gif

3. Major storm
The SMART system will be activated and the motorway will be closed to traffic. Sufficient time will be allocated to allow the last vehicle to exit the motorway before the automated watertight gates are opened to allow flood water in. The motorway will be re-opened to traffic within 48 hours.

The SMART system will divert flood water from entering the critical stretch of Sungai Ampang and Sungai Klang via a holding pond, bypass tunnel and storage reservoir. The stormwater tunnel between the holding pond and the storage reservoir is about 9.7 km long and runs beneath the city limits, mostly under public roads.

Three kilometres of this tunnel will double-up as a motorway. Convenient ingress and egress ramps at each end of the motorway will direct traffic into and out of the motorway from the existing and congested stretches of Jalan Tun Razak and Kuala Lumpur-Seremban highway.

For more information on SMART, please visit www.smarttunnel.com.my

Kailangan din ng tuneladora sa NLEEx. Hindi tuloy malaman kung saan unang gagamitin ang mga tuneladora natin.

Cost-wise, wouldn't these systems be too expensive? Implications point to us borrowing more from the WB or the ADB just to realize these rail lines, elevated, at-grade or underground. Consortium type of approach aren't so attractive as the government is still reeling from the EDSA-MRT experience and it seems we haven't learned our lessons from there.

Engineering for subways is not the issue, it's costs and economics.

I think LRT did have some negative effects in rizal ave, but with or without it the long term decline for the area had already started with the hollowing out of manila and the move to makati and ortigas of cbd's. This did not happen overnight or was because of the lrt, but due to long term lack of poor management on the side of a succession of manila mayors.

^^ That's why an underground MRT is still better for Manila. An underground railway system provides for a better interchangability between lines, especially overlapping ones..

Kuya WANCH, pakipost naman dito yung diagram kung paano yung interchangability sa MTR. Ex: From Tsuen Wan Line to Kwun Tong Line.

I'll see what I can do ;)

^^ I think it's a result of poor planning. Manila should have invested in a heavy-rail metro, not an elevated light-rail metro. Kaya nga sinasabi nila, mas maganda na ang Bangkok, lalo pa ang Singapore!

To think we pioneered rail rapid transport in Southeast Asia. :(

By rail standards, BKK's BTS is considered as a medium capacity system. It uses heavy rail cars but it has a 3 car configuration compared to the 4 car system of LRT-2

http://www.isaanhotels.com/guide/wp-content/bangkok_skytrain_saladaeng.jpg

Manila's metro network is similar to that of Los Angeles. LA's metro network consist of light rail cars while the red line uses heavy rail metro. In fact LA also uses s 3 car configuration just like BKK. The only difference is LA is less dense or as congested as Manila.

The MRT should have used heavy rail instead of lightrail since its a major route unlike the LRT-2.

^^anyone have noticed lately the PA system in mrt coaches? it tells you now the arrival at mrt stations, similar to LRT-2's female voice. its not anymore from the MALE voice of the groggy train operator "**** iwasan sandalan ang pintuan.. pumasok lang sa may loob na bahagi ng tren.... tambayan ng mga mandurukot dyan sa pintuan!" :lol:

they couldve made it better though. firstly, tagalog MUST come first before english. and its not that helpful save for least the station name and at least it tells you now which side of the train will open like hongkong's " duors will o-pen on the right toot toot toot toot toot...please muwynd the gap between the plat fom flou and the train ":lol:

try youtubing bangkok's BTS PA system. the voice is similar to hongkong mtr! sosyal! maybe they paid for the services, truly aspiring na maging world class ang bangkok ah

That MRT "PA System" usually screws up at terminal stations with the driver ending up getting confused on what to press next. Imagine the train leaving Taft Avenue with the PA announcing Kamuning station, Kamuning station...

And one more peeve, why can't they say "train" in Tagalog?

^^ Because Taglish is the norm! It happens with all forms of transportation (OT: I wrote to PAL about "Tagalicizing" their announcements. They can't even say NAIA in Tagalog!).

They (the LRTA/MRTC/DOTC) can't even make decent TAGALOG announcements. You can certainly say "Parating na sa estasyong Araneta Center-Cubao" instead of "Parating na sa Araneta Center-Cubao station".

By Darwin G. Amojelar, 12 May 2008
Source: Manila Times

SM Prime Holdings Inc. and state-run Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA) are finalizing an agreement for the construction of an additional station for the Light Rail Transit Line 1 (LRT 1) North Extension project in Quezon City. The LRTA said the additional station will be located in front of SM North Annex between the Roosevelt and North Avenue stations of the LRT 1 North Extension project.

In its project update, LRTA said SM Prime would foot the bill for the said station. LRTA had estimated the cost of the additional station at about P100 million. SM Prime has financed a cost-benefit analysis to determine the benefits that would accrue to LRTA should the station be constructed. “In view of the fact that the proposed additional station would also serve [Metro Rail Transit] Line 7, it has to be recognized that any agreement between LRTA and SM [Prime] pertaining to the additional station would also have to include the proponents of Line 7,” the LRTA said.

A consortium led by Universal LRT Corp. has proposed to build the MRT 7. The consortium is composed of Siemens AG of Germany, Alstom Corp. of France; China National Technical Import and Export Corp., EL International Holdings of Hong Kong, Earth Tech of Tyco International USA, Premier Gold of Japan, Redford Assets Ltd. of the SM group, EEI Corp., Penta Capital Management Corp., Merlin Pacific Capital Inc., TCGI Engineers, and private investors such as George Go and former Finance Secretary Roberto de Ocampo.

The LRT North Extension is estimated to cost around P6.32 billion, and involves the construction and detailed design of a 5.71-kilometer elevated line from Monumento station of LRT 1 to North Avenue of MRT 3. The project would also entail construction of new intermediate stations at Balintawak and Roosevelt, and a terminal station at North Avenue.

The Balintawak station will provide modal interchange with bus and jeepney services entering Metro Manila from the north via the North Luzon Expressway.

Of the P6.32-billion project cost, civil and architectural works would cost P3.3 billion; electromechanical works, P1.9 billion; consultancy services, P317.4 million; contingency, P318 million and inflation adjustment, P342.35 million.
The project will begin construction this year, with target completion in April 2010. Once running, the LRT North Extension is expected to serve about 800,000 to 1 million passengers.

SOURCE (http://www.sminvestments.com/News.php?BlurbID=1297)

By Darwin G. Amojelar, 12 May 2008
Source: Manila Times

SM Prime Holdings Inc. and state-run Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA) are finalizing an agreement for the construction of an additional station for the Light Rail Transit Line 1 (LRT 1) North Extension project in Quezon City. The LRTA said the additional station will be located in front of SM North Annex between the Roosevelt and North Avenue stations of the LRT 1 North Extension project.

In its project update, LRTA said SM Prime would foot the bill for the said station. LRTA had estimated the cost of the additional station at about P100 million. SM Prime has financed a cost-benefit analysis to determine the benefits that would accrue to LRTA should the station be constructed. “In view of the fact that the proposed additional station would also serve [Metro Rail Transit] Line 7, it has to be recognized that any agreement between LRTA and SM [Prime] pertaining to the additional station would also have to include the proponents of Line 7,” the LRTA said.

A consortium led by Universal LRT Corp. has proposed to build the MRT 7. The consortium is composed of Siemens AG of Germany, Alstom Corp. of France; China National Technical Import and Export Corp., EL International Holdings of Hong Kong, Earth Tech of Tyco International USA, Premier Gold of Japan, Redford Assets Ltd. of the SM group, EEI Corp., Penta Capital Management Corp., Merlin Pacific Capital Inc., TCGI Engineers, and private investors such as George Go and former Finance Secretary Roberto de Ocampo.

The LRT North Extension is estimated to cost around P6.32 billion, and involves the construction and detailed design of a 5.71-kilometer elevated line from Monumento station of LRT 1 to North Avenue of MRT 3. The project would also entail construction of new intermediate stations at Balintawak and Roosevelt, and a terminal station at North Avenue.

The Balintawak station will provide modal interchange with bus and jeepney services entering Metro Manila from the north via the North Luzon Expressway.

Of the P6.32-billion project cost, civil and architectural works would cost P3.3 billion; electromechanical works, P1.9 billion; consultancy services, P317.4 million; contingency, P318 million and inflation adjustment, P342.35 million.
The project will begin construction this year, with target completion in April 2010. Once running, the LRT North Extension is expected to serve about 800,000 to 1 million passengers.

SOURCE (http://www.sminvestments.com/News.php?BlurbID=1297)

Good news indeed. SM has realized the tremendous benefits that Trinoma gets when MRT opened its access direct to the mall.

Good news indeed. SM has realized the tremendous benefits that Trinoma gets when MRT opened its access direct to the mall.

Mayroon pa nga silang SM Redevelopment Plan. Ibig sabihin ba niyan kung wala pa riyan ang Trinoma, hindi pa nila aayusin iyan?

For those who complain about rush hour in Manila's metro.

Try Japan :D
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Q: Can the current tracks of MRT and LRT be used by Heavy rail trains? So they could get rid of the ugly wires needed to power light trains?

Q: Can the current tracks of MRT and LRT be used by Heavy rail trains? So they could get rid of the ugly wires needed to power light trains?

We still need the ugly wires there if we are going to use heavy rail since installing a third rail will need more space and since it is a heavy rail, it would be bigger and more sophisticated to carry that great amount of power.

We still need the ugly wires there if we are going to use heavy rail since installing a third rail will need more space and since it is a heavy rail, it would be bigger and more sophisticated to carry that great amount of power.

Note that not all heavy rail systems run through the third rail. HK's MTR uses the same overhead wires that the LRT/MRT uses.

http://www.gakei.com

http://gakei.com/mtr/mtrc01.jpg

http://gakei.com/aex/aex01.jpg

On the other hand. Rapid KL uses light rail metros just like the lrt-1 and mrt but it runs on the third rail

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/Star_LRT_RapidKL.jpg/800px-Star_LRT_RapidKL.jpg

I didn't said that heavy rails run on third rails. What I said was that overhead wires must stay there since third rails cannot carry as much as electricity unlike overhead wires.

About sa picture mo sa Hong Kong MTR, parang iyan rin yung tren na ginagamit natin sa Purple Line (Megatren).

^^ Because Taglish is the norm! It happens with all forms of transportation (OT: I wrote to PAL about "Tagalicizing" their announcements. They can't even say NAIA in Tagalog!).

They (the LRTA/MRTC/DOTC) can't even make decent TAGALOG announcements. You can certainly say "Parating na sa estasyong Araneta Center-Cubao" instead of "Parating na sa Araneta Center-Cubao station".

The LRT-1 operators can still say "tren" though, not sure about Megatren.

I didn't said that heavy rails run on third rails. What I said was that overhead wires must stay there since third rails cannot carry as much as electricity unlike overhead wires.

Eurostar train sets runs on both overhead and third rail power. The train sets are tri-voltage being able to operate on 25 kV, 50 Hz AC (LGVs, Eurotunnel, High Speed 1, UK overhead electrified lines) and 3 kV DC (Belgian lignes classiques) using pantographs, as well as 750 V DC using "shoes" (UK third rail network).

About sa picture mo sa Hong Kong MTR, parang iyan rin yung tren na ginagamit natin sa Purple Line (Megatren).

http://www.lrta.gov.ph/images/megatren_lrt2.jpg

http://gakei.com/aex/aex01.jpg

almost the same

For those who complain about rush hour in Manila's metro.

Try Japan :D
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actually i kinda expected this. ive heard about people packers used in tokyo subways.

commuting by train in manila is actually a breeze compared with my experiences in shanghai and beijing (hellish!). stayed there for a year as well. my only qualms in our current lrt/mrt go to the station design/access and other forms of modernity and converniece for using a metro system..

^^ Because Taglish is the norm! It happens with all forms of transportation (OT: I wrote to PAL about "Tagalicizing" their announcements. They can't even say NAIA in Tagalog!).

They (the LRTA/MRTC/DOTC) can't even make decent TAGALOG announcements. You can certainly say "Parating na sa estasyong Araneta Center-Cubao" instead of "Parating na sa Araneta Center-Cubao station".

i didnt say taglish. i meant the ORDER they announced the PA, first: "arriving at ayala station, kindly exit the train on the right.." THEN "paparating na sa ayala station, maari po lamang lumabas sa kanang exit .."

you will see signs nowadays in tagalog only. example: MMDA pedestrian warning/directional signboards. "Walang Tawiran Nakamamatay." my 2 cents... a metro system is sort of a national pride (like bangkok's owning of theirs) so it is only proper to put emphasis and priority on using our national language. some foreigners using our mrt might get the wrong impression that philippines is all about western idolatry and colonial mentality..

in fact, i suggest replacing all manila streetsigns in tagalog then english below it! nowhere in the world u can find a foreign language first then their own local language.. :ohno:

For those who complain about rush hour in Manila's metro.

Try Japan :D
BE35onlIySk

anak ng p..i wala bang nasusuffocate doon o namamatay parang silang mga sardinas sa tren! tsk tk maswerte parin tayong mga pinoy uh...

:lol: ayan kasi e kulang sila sa jeepneys hehehe! all what japan need to do is to share their automobile technologies and its manufactuing fascilities to us for free and we give them half of our jeepney population in return! :banana:

i didnt say taglish. i meant the ORDER they announced the PA, first: "arriving at ayala station, kindly exit the train on the right.." THEN "paparating na sa ayala station, maari po lamang lumabas sa kanang exit .."

you will see signs nowadays in tagalog only. example: MMDA pedestrian warning/directional signboards. "Walang Tawiran Nakamamatay." my 2 cents... a metro system is sort of a national pride (like bangkok's owning of theirs) so it is only proper to put emphasis and priority on using our national language. some foreigners using our mrt might get the wrong impression that philippines is all about western idolatry and colonial mentality..

in fact, i suggest replacing all manila streetsigns in tagalog then english below it! nowhere in the world u can find a foreign language first then their own local language.. :ohno:

He was replying to my post on why can't they even say "train" in tagalog.

"paglabas ng train"
"magkabilang pintuan ng train"

i didnt say taglish. i meant the ORDER they announced the PA, first: "arriving at ayala station, kindly exit the train on the right.." THEN "paparating na sa ayala station, maari po lamang lumabas sa kanang exit .."

you will see signs nowadays in tagalog only. example: MMDA pedestrian warning/directional signboards. "Walang Tawiran Nakamamatay." my 2 cents... a metro system is sort of a national pride (like bangkok's owning of theirs) so it is only proper to put emphasis and priority on using our national language. some foreigners using our mrt might get the wrong impression that philippines is all about western idolatry and colonial mentality..

in fact, i suggest replacing all manila streetsigns in tagalog then english below it! nowhere in the world u can find a foreign language first then their own local language.. :ohno:

I'll answer your point there.

The Philippine government takes a lot (and I mean a lot) of pride in us being an English-speaking people. And sadly, out of that promotion, the development of Tagalog/Filipino is horribly stunted. When you enter any form of public transportation, other than the public advisories, everything is in English. Sure, it's good for the foreigners who come to the Philippines, but what about the non-English speaking Filipinos?

True that you have a point there. However, until you find the government taking the cudgels of the importance of Filipino (in terms of order) and especially the purity of Filipino (which, BTW, is virtually non-existent since Taglish has been so ingrained in the national conciousness), don't expect any changes soon, whether it may be placing Tagalog before English on LRT/MRT announcements, or dual-language street signs.

If only the Philippines were more like Canada... :D

Lightning disrupts LRT2 service (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/metro/view/20080520-137775/Lightning-disrupts-LRT2-service)

By Riza T. Olchondra
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 21:11:00 05/20/2008

MANILA, Philippines -- Lightning hit the power supply at the Light Rail Transit station on Claro M. Recto at 6:45 p.m. Tuesday, disrupting train service between the Santolan and Recto stations.

“At this point we can only service Santolan Cubao-Santolan,” LRTA spokesperson Jinky Jorgio said in a text message.

Service in the affected area had not been restored as of 9 p.m. and there was no clear indication from the LRTA when service would be fully restored.

Lightning disrupts LRT2 service (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/metro/view/20080520-137775/Lightning-disrupts-LRT2-service)

By Riza T. Olchondra
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 21:11:00 05/20/2008

MANILA, Philippines -- Lightning hit the power supply at the Light Rail Transit station on Claro M. Recto at 6:45 p.m. Tuesday, disrupting train service between the Santolan and Recto stations.

“At this point we can only service Santolan Cubao-Santolan,” LRTA spokesperson Jinky Jorgio said in a text message.

Service in the affected area had not been restored as of 9 p.m. and there was no clear indication from the LRTA when service would be fully restored.

swerte walang ibang tao roon. pero parang repeat nang blackout nung last month. yun nga lang, walang masisisi rito.

^^can't they do something about it. I've heard this for the nth time already.

^^yup, quite astonishing this is still an issue!

in fact, i suggest replacing all manila streetsigns in tagalog then english below it! nowhere in the world u can find a foreign language first then their own local language.. :ohno:

People are actually used to seeing or reading english signs in metro manila and i guess in the provinces. :)

People are actually used to seeing or reading english signs in metro manila and i guess in the provinces. :)

Most of the signs around Metro Manila are in English. I see more English signs than Filipino

I didn't said that heavy rails run on third rails. What I said was that overhead wires must stay there since third rails cannot carry as much as electricity unlike overhead wires.

About sa picture mo sa Hong Kong MTR, parang iyan rin yung tren na ginagamit natin sa Purple Line (Megatren).

Pareho sila ginawa ng Rotem, isang Korean company na nag specialize sa mga rolling stock at heavy industries. Pero ang K-Stock ng MTR ginawa rin nga Mitsubishi Heavy Industries. Mitsubishi rin ang gumawa sa mga MRT.

http://www.rotem.co.kr/eng/main_html/main.asp

^^ I thought it was CKD that made the MRT-3 rolling stock. I do know though that Rotem made the MRT-2 stock.

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/2/photos/167/600x600/10/P5210176.JPG?et=wII9YFuRpj9vY41VRb09aA&nmid=97144593

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/3/photos/167/600x600/11/P5210177.JPG?et=jLjnKC7G%2BV8ixGY2%2BAMKDg&nmid=97144593

Oh by the way, there is already a PA system at MRT-3 saying like:
ding dong "This station is Boni Avenue, please exit to the left doors of the train. Ang istasyon na ito ay Boni Avenue, maaari na pong lumabas sa kaliwang bahagi ng tren...next station is Shaw Boulevard, susunod na istasyon ay Shaw Boulevard" ding dong...:D

Sabay pagkatapos ng announcement, patutugtugin ang Greenwich Pizza Delivery every stop...so kung galing kang Taft hanggang North Edsa, well LSS mo na ang jingle. :D

^^ I thought it was CKD that made the MRT-3 rolling stock. I do know though that Rotem made the MRT-2 stock.

There was one time I rode the MRT and saw the Mitsubishi Heavy Industries label inside.

Oh by the way, there is already a PA system at MRT-3 saying like:
ding dong "This station is Boni Avenue, please exit to the left doors of the train. Ang istasyon na ito ay Boni Avenue, maaari na pong lumabas sa kaliwang bahagi ng tren...next station is Shaw Boulevard, susunod na istasyon ay Shaw Boulevard" ding dong...:D

Sabay pagkatapos ng announcement, patutugtugin ang Greenwich Pizza Delivery every stop...so kung galing kang Taft hanggang North Edsa, well LSS mo na ang jingle. :D

Ako naman na LSS sa "Macau, Wow Macau" ng Chowking sa MRT.. :lol:

Wala ng MRT Radio no?

Does anybody here have picture of Araneta LRT2 station? Thanks.

Does anybody here have picture of Araneta LRT2 station? Thanks.

from LRTA website

The Gateway link enables passengers to travel to and from any destination using the MRT-2 and 3 systems. The pedestrian link can be found just above the open parking area of the Araneta Coliseum connecting the southeast concourse level of the MRT-2 to the northeast concourse level of MRT-3 via an elevated walkway.

http://www.lrta.gov.ph/images/Cubao_Link.jpg
Purple Line and Blue Line elevated walkway connecting Araneta Center - Cubao Station to Cubao Station of Line 3 passing through Araneta Coliseum and New Farmers Plaza

http://www.lrta.gov.ph/images/systemlink007.jpg
A portion of the Gateway link connecting Farmer's Plaza
to Araneta Coliseum

http://www.lrta.gov.ph/images/systemlink009.jpg
Elevated walkway right beside the Araneta Coliseum

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Entrance to Araneta-Cubao Station of Line 2 from Gateway Mall

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Araneta Center-Cubao LRT Station

Thanks Kratos1211. The station looks neat, big and accessible.

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We should have this kind of line interchanges in our MRT system. They are very efficient and organized

I believe that is what MRT7 and MRT 3 are planning if possible a same floor , accross the hall line exchange.

I believe that is what MRT7 and MRT 3 are planning if possible a same floor , accross the hall line exchange.

Only the monumento bound train and the MRT7 going bulacan are on the same platform while the taft bound train and the MRT7 train from bulacan are connected by going under the platform.

see proposed station for www.ulc.com.ph

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2344/2515855607_64fcae2fac_o.jpg

^^ I do not see it in the diagram above. What if they build a big underground station at the intersection of EDSA, North Ave and West Ave and demolish the existing North Ave station? Then they should have entrances in Trinoma and SM North EDSA

ang cheap ng mga design ng train station natin. dapat si Santiago Calatrava ang architect, check nyo ang futuristic design nya on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot2mGZe_pqU&feature=related).

ang cheap ng mga design ng train station natin. dapat si Santiago Calatrava ang architect, check nyo ang futuristic design nya on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot2mGZe_pqU&feature=related).

Mahal ang mga futuristic design na stations, e utang nga lang sa totoo lang ang mga LRT/MRT natin e...

20 firms to bid for P6.27-B
LRT-MRT interconnection

By Lenie Lectura
Reporter

TWENTY construction companies are bidding for the P6.27-billion railway project, the Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA) announced Monday.

The 20 interested firms are Sumitomo Corp., Marubeni Corp., Hanjin Heavy Industries, Siemens Inc., DMCI-EEI First Balfour Consortium, FF Cruz & Co., Leighton Contractors, Foundation Specialist Inc., Cavite Ideal Int’l Construction & Development Corp., Systra Phils. Inc., BES Engineering Corp., Asset Builders Corp., R-II Builders Inc., Pacific Concrete Products Inc., Romago Inc., Telefonicka Inck., Autre Porte Global Technique Inc., Meralco Industrial Engineering Services Corp., Genials Trading & Contracting Co. Inc., and China State (Phils.) Construction Engineering Corp.

Sumitomo Corp. undertook the capacity expansion project of LRT Line 1, while Marubeni was the main contractor for the LRT Line 2 construction.

The winning bidder will undertake the civil works as well as the electro-mechanical components for the railway project, which is envisioned to connect the LRT and the Metro Rail Transit railways.

LRTA administrator Mel Robles said this is the first time for any government bidding process with a high turnout of bidders.

“This is a sign of confidence with the LRTA. There are no any other government offices which received such huge response from bidders,” Robles said.

A prebid conference will be held today. The LRTA has invited members of the civil society like representatives from the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of the Philippines, Philippine Contractors Association, Transparency International, Commission on Audit and Office of the Ombudsman to observe the process.

The LRT-MRT interconnection is a 7.71-kilometer elevated line from Monumento station of LRT Line 1 to North Avenue of MRT 3, with two new intermediate stations which are Balintawak and Roosevelt and a terminal station at Line 1 North Avenue station, all equipped with escalators and elevators.

Robles said with the project, the average daily ridership is set to increase by 66.16 percent, or a total of 535,558 passengers, from the current average of 322,309 passengers.

Funding of the project will be taken from the debt-paper sale of state-owned National Development Co., amounting to P4.6 billion. The remaining P1.67 billion will be obtained through a General Appropriations Act enacted by Congress.

In November last year, President Arroyo directed Transportation Secretary Leandro Mendoza and Robles to proceed with the construction of the LRT-MRT loop after thorough evaluation of several construction options.

Construction of the loop will start early next year and is expected to be operational by 2010.

Source (http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/11062007/economy04.html)

20 firms to bid for P6.27-B
LRT-MRT interconnection

By Lenie Lectura
Reporter

TWENTY construction companies are bidding for the P6.27-billion railway project, the Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA) announced Monday.

The 20 interested firms are Sumitomo Corp., Marubeni Corp., Hanjin Heavy Industries, Siemens Inc., DMCI-EEI First Balfour Consortium, FF Cruz & Co., Leighton Contractors, Foundation Specialist Inc., Cavite Ideal Int’l Construction & Development Corp., Systra Phils. Inc., BES Engineering Corp., Asset Builders Corp., R-II Builders Inc., Pacific Concrete Products Inc., Romago Inc., Telefonicka Inck., Autre Porte Global Technique Inc., Meralco Industrial Engineering Services Corp., Genials Trading & Contracting Co. Inc., and China State (Phils.) Construction Engineering Corp.

Source (http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/11062007/economy04.html)

This is NOVEMBER 6, 2007 news. The bidding is already done.

see post # 109

@Taft Avenue Station
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Building futuristic designed stations isn't practical especially when we're running on a tight budget. A decent, clean, spacious station would be enough.

Building futuristic designed stations isn't practical especially when we're running on a tight budget. A decent, clean, spacious station would be enough.

Sa MRT mas kailangan natin ng mga bagong tren dahil talagang siksikan diyan kapag rush hour.

nyk nyk..gawa lang ng gawa para masaya..hehehe..kasi naman..ang mga iyan..napaka.. hai naku..ang laki n ng tax ko pero walang bagong train n nagagawa..hahaha.. sana naman mag bago na lahat..pero feel ko malapit na ung araw n hinihintay nting mga pilipino n mahal ang pilipinas..kasi ung iba hindi nila mahal..hahahahaha.. ^_^

nyk nyk..gawa lang ng gawa para masaya..hehehe..kasi naman..ang mga iyan..napaka.. hai naku..ang laki n ng tax ko pero walang bagong train n nagagawa..hahaha.. sana naman mag bago na lahat..pero feel ko malapit na ung araw n hinihintay nting mga pilipino n mahal ang pilipinas..kasi ung iba hindi nila mahal..hahahahaha.. ^_^

Hanga nga ako sa LRT kahit sabihin ninyong mura ang pamasahe noon malaki naman ang kinita nun last year. Nakabili pa sila ng mga 3G trains.

@Taft Avenue Station


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Salamat habagatcentral1 at napansin mo ito.
Dyan sa Boni-MRT station, delikado dito lalo na kung may kasama ka na bata.
Maliit ang platform para sa mga naghihintay na pasahero, MAPA-North bound(North Avenue) and South-bound(Taft Avenue)

Actually the platforms are of high risk, that is why they placed the yellow tiles at the edge so that it will serve as a buffer zone between the passengers and the train...

Pero ang delikado kung mapuno ang station na may maliliit na platforms sa MRT such as Boni Ave, Buendia and Taft.

Building futuristic designed stations isn't practical especially when we're running on a tight budget. A decent, clean, spacious station would be enough.

Stations build like MRT2 is good enough.

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20 firms to bid for P6.27-B
LRT-MRT interconnection

By Lenie Lectura
Reporter

Construction of the loop will start early next year and is expected to be operational by 2010.

Source (http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/11062007/economy04.html)

They were suppose to start construction in May of this year.! Its already May of this year and nothing! This is becoming all too familiar, similar to the Evergreen Line in the Greater Vancouver area. We've been hearing "construction of the loop will start early next year for the past year already. Just build the damn thing already! :rant:

They were suppose to start construction in May of this year.! Its already May of this year and nothing! This is becoming all too familiar, similar to the Evergreen Line in the Greater Vancouver area. We've been hearing "construction of the loop will start early next year for the past year already. Just build the damn thing already! :rant:


Project Status (as of May 2, 2008)

* Consultancy Contract signed by and between LRTA and Metrolink on April 23, 2007
* NTP to Consultant (May 21, 2007)
* Mobilization of Consultant (May 28, 2007)
* Approval of the Project by joint NEDA-ICC and Cabinet Committe (August 30, 2007)
* NEDA Board approved the Feasibility Report and the source of funding (September 18, 2007)
* Publication of Invitation to bid on October 1, 2007
* Issuance of Eligibility Documents from October 8 to 22, 2007
* Pre-eligibility Conference of the interested bidders on November 6, 2007
* Eligibility submission and opening on November 21, 22 and 23, 2007
* Re-publication of Invitation to Bid (Packages A1, A2, & B) on November 27, 2007
* Re-publication of Invitation to Bid (Package C) on December 15, 2007
* Eligibility re-submission and opening (Packages A1, A2, & B) on December 19, 20 and 21, 2007
* Purchased of bidding documents for Civil Works (Packages A1, A2 & B) of eligible contractors from January 3 to 14, 2008
* Pre-eligibility Conference was held for Package C on January 8, 2008
* Eligibility submission and opening of Package C on January 23, 2008
* Pre-bid Conferences were held for Packages A1, A2 and B on January 22 and 29, 2008
* Selling of Bid Documents to Pre-qualified Bidders for Package C on February 5, 2008
* Pre-bid Conference was held for Package C on February 19, 2008
* Receipt of Technical and Financial Bids and Opening of Technical Bids for Packages A2 & B on March 25 & 26, 2008, respectively.
* Receipt of Technical & Financial Bids and Opening of Technical Bids for Package A1 on March 31, 2008.
* Receipt of Technical Proposals for Packages A1, A2 & B from SBAC for Technical Evaluation on April 4, 2008
* Technical Evaluation of A1 & A2 were completed on April 14, 2008 and advance copy was provided to LRTA for review
* Bidding for Package C was declared as failure; the single bidder did not submit a proposal on April 1, 2008
* Technical Evaluation for Package C was submitted on April 11, 2008
* Opening of Financial Proposal for Packages A1 & B on April 25, 2008

The schedule for subsequent procurement activities for civil works are as follows:

Activity Packages A1, Packages A2, Package B
Submission of the Evaluation of the Financial Proposal May 2, 2008
Contract Signing May 12, 2008
Notice to Proceed (NTP) (Tentative) June 9, 2008

14. The proposed revised procurement schedule for the Package C (Revised) is as follows.
The approval by LRTA of this proposed schedule is however, pending

May 5, 2008 - Filing of Letter of Intent/Release of Eligibility Documents
May 6, 2008 - Pre-Eligibility Conference
May 14, 2008 - Opening of Eligibility Documents
May 20, 2008 - Issue and Availability of Bid Docs for Proposal Preparation
May 26, 2008 - Pre-Bid Conference
June 26, 2008 - Submission of Bids and Opening of Technical Proposals
June 26, 2008 - Bid Evaluation (Start)
July 07, 2008 - Bid Evaluation (Finish)
July 11, 2008 - Open Financial Proposal/ Notification for Negotiation
July 22, 2008 - Notice of Award/ Contract Signing
July 28, 2008 - Issuance of Notice to Proceed

source LRTA website

ang cheap ng mga design ng train station natin. dapat si Santiago Calatrava ang architect, check nyo ang futuristic design nya on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot2mGZe_pqU&feature=related).

welcome to the real world kiddo

Building futuristic designed stations isn't practical especially when we're running on a tight budget. A decent, clean, spacious station would be enough.

exactly :) sa singapore di din naman kagandahan ang stations

ang cheap ng mga design ng train station natin. dapat si Santiago Calatrava ang architect, check nyo ang futuristic design nya on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot2mGZe_pqU&feature=related).

It isn't feasible, cost-benefit wise. It would be more beneficial to the public if new lines are being built rather than placing emphasis on the aesthetics of each station.

They were suppose to start construction in May of this year.! Its already May of this year and nothing! This is becoming all too familiar, similar to the Evergreen Line in the Greater Vancouver area. We've been hearing "construction of the loop will start early next year for the past year already. Just build the damn thing already! :rant:

Masanay ka na, pag sinabing next month, count another 12 months, next year ang totoong ibig sabihin nun..

^^parang filipino time. :lol:--------> :cry:

Pustahan tayo, masisimulan yan sa March 2010.... close estimate ko lang ha.... :cheers:

pero pag mga dagdag tax..at mga pera na pwede nilang pag kakitaan ang bibilis nila pero pag gawa ng ikakaganda ng pilipinas kinatatamadan nila..sa tingin di pa kasi tapos ung hatian nila sa pag gawa ng train..inaayos pa nila ng walang kakanta ulit..parang ZTE hahaha..dapat daw pantay pantay ang hatian bago simulan ang project. ganon naman lagi kaya ang tagal..tapos dami nilang sasabihin..hai naku..mag sialis na nga sila dyan wala naman silang n gagawang maganda..puro pa cute lang di naman cute.. grrrrrr......

Sa CHina siguro yung nasa pinakamataas lang siguro ang kumikita kada me project kaya mabiles at maayos ang infra nila. kasi saten ang daming nakikihate kaya pagdating mismo sa project ubos na o sasabihen nila kulang ang pera.

kulang ang pera kasi kinurakot na nila..naman talaga..kulang kasi ung makukurakot nila. kaylangan dagdagan para mas malaki ung makurakot.. na aasar na tagala ako dito sa MRT na to.. walang ngayayari puro sabi na gagawin..tapos sila mag gogolf lang sa china pa.. naman tagala.. :(

MANILA, Philippines - Pressed to stay on schedule, state-owned train operator Light Rail Transit Authority (LRT) is hastening the awarding of the MRT-LRT mass railway loop project so that construction could start in June.

The rail link project would connect the Light Rail Transit (LRT) Line 1’s Monumento station in Caloocan City with the Metro Rail Transit’s (MRT) North Avenue station in Quezon City in a bid to ease Metro Manila’s traffic problem.

In a telephone interview, bids and awards committee (BAC) Chairman Cesar B. Chavez said Thursday they hope to award the contract to the winning bidder by June 9 for packages A and B, and by July 17 for package C.

The MRT-LRT Loop has three components: package A, which is divided in two phases and involves the construction of a viaduct and pedestrian overpass; package B, which will build and modify train stations; and package C, which entails electromechanical works.

"We are now doing the technical bidding for A1, A2 and B wherein the engineering design submitted by the bidders are tested and the financial checks will follow right after," Mr. Chavez said.

For packages A1 and B, only D.M. Consunji-First Balfour, Inc. qualified to join the bidding. F.F. Cruz and Co., Inc.-Filipinas Systems, Inc. has joined the Consunji and Lopez venture for package A2.

Meanwhile, package C, Mr. Chavez said, was declared a failed bid after DMCI-First Balfour, the only party qualified to join the bidding, failed to submit its engineering design documents.

Asked about their options, Mr. Chavez said: "RA (Republic Act) 9184 says that in case of a failed bid happening twice, we can negotiate. We can still meet [our] schedule."

The MRT-LRT Loop involves the construction of three new stations, one located at the MRT-3 North Avenue end and the other two at Balintawak and Muñoz Market in Quezon City. The P5.9-billion development, which starts operating in 2009, is expected to start in June after the contract is awarded.

The Metro Rail Transit system, popularly known as the MRT, is part of Metro Manila’s metropolitan rail system. It has a single line, MRT-3 or the Blue Line.

Although it has characteristics of a light rail, such as the type of rolling stock used, it is more akin to a rapid transit system. It is not related to the Manila Light Rail Transit System, a separate but linked system.

One of its original purposes was to decongest Epifanio de los Santos Avenue (EDSA), one of Metro Manila’s main thoroughfares and home to the MRT.

The MRT is operated by the Metro Rail Transit Corp. (MRTC), a private company operating in partnership with the Department of Transportation and Communications (DOTC) under a build-operate-transfer agreement.

Meanwhile, the Light Rail Transit system, popularly known as the LRT, has two lines: LRT-1, called the Yellow Line, and MRT-2, called the Purple Line.

The LRT, operated by the Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA), a government-owned and controlled corporation, is the first metro system in Southeast Asia, built earlier than Singapore’s MRT by three years.

Many commuters who ride the LRT and MRT also take road-based public transport, such as buses, to reach their destinations from a station. Both the MRT and LRT have been only partially successful in decongesting Metro Manila’s main roads, and traffic is further aggravated by the rising number of motor vehicles

sa june or july pa tagala..at sana totoo nga.. hai.. :<

ha ha ha... etong Northrail parang LRT...

Ang Sabi eh...

1. October 2006 daw magstart na... walang nangyari.
2. December 2006... Nagrestart ulit... ganun din walang nangyari..
3. Feb. 2007... Full-blast na daw... meron regrading pero konti lang construction. mga 4% lang accomplished..
4. June 2007... Marami pa raw squatters kaya di makapagstart. Merong mga binaon na mga poste sa Malolos pero ilang araw lang at hinto na naman.
5. November 2007, nagstart na raw.. pero niisang worker sa Caloocan to Malolos, wala akong nakita.
6. January 2008 Full-blast daw ulit kasi wala na raw squatters from Caloocan To Clark. Sa katunayan, Caloocan to Calumpit pa lang ang totally cleared. Wala ring nangyaring construction.
7. May 2008, Nagresign si Bartolome... Lalong lumabo ang projekto.

:ohno::ohno::ohno:

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Salamat habagatcentral1 at napansin mo ito.
Dyan sa Boni-MRT station, delikado dito lalo na kung may kasama ka na bata.
Maliit ang platform para sa mga naghihintay na pasahero, MAPA-North bound(North Avenue) and South-bound(Taft Avenue)

I've tried riding there during rush hours, sobrang nakakatakot. Talagang siksikan ang tao kasi manipis ang platform. Kaya ang ginagaw ko sumisiksik ako sa gitna kasi nakakatakot baka mahulog sa track.

Anyways, are there any plans on purchasing newer coaches for mrt3?

ha ha ha... etong Northrail parang LRT...

Ang Sabi eh...

1. October 2006 daw magstart na... walang nangyari.
2. December 2006... Nagrestart ulit... ganun din walang nangyari..
3. Feb. 2007... Full-blast na daw... meron regrading pero konti lang construction. mga 4% lang accomplished..
4. June 2007... Marami pa raw squatters kaya di makapagstart. Merong mga binaon na mga poste sa Malolos pero ilang araw lang at hinto na naman.
5. November 2007, nagstart na raw.. pero niisang worker sa Caloocan to Malolos, wala akong nakita.
6. January 2008 Full-blast daw ulit kasi wala na raw squatters from Caloocan To Clark. Sa katunayan, Caloocan to Calumpit pa lang ang totally cleared. Wala ring nangyaring construction.
7. May 2008, Nagresign si Bartolome... Lalong lumabo ang projekto.

:ohno::ohno::ohno:

Hahahaha! :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: stop and go ang nagiging sitwasyon sa Northrail e...

Anyway, kung gusto ninyo ng ebidensya, tingnan niyo na lang yung mga pictures na pinost ko sa Northrail/Southrail thread...

May bagong kasabihan ako diyan...

"Urong-sulong man ang proyekto, sa wala pa rin ang tuloy..."

Have you ever thought that the Megatren is supposed to be the one for MRT EDSA Blue Line instead of the LRT2 Purple Line?

Because the Purple Line trains are wider, faster and can accommodate more people in a single train?

Have you ever thought that the Megatren is supposed to be the one for MRT EDSA Blue Line instead of the LRT2 Purple Line?

Because the Purple Line trains are wider, faster and can accommodate more people in a single train?

Matagal na, nakakainis nga kung bakit MRT ang nasa EDSA dapat yung Megatren kasi una, walang masyadong sumasakay sa Megatren pero siksikan ang MRT... what has become to our homeland na ba?

Private biz to fund P63B of projects
By Cai U. Ordinario
Reporter

IN an effort to control government spending on infrastructure projects and encourage the private sector to participate in national development, the government has bared 10 priority projects that will be proposed for financing by the private sector.

In his presentation at the Philippine Development Forum (PDF) Wednesday, National Economic and Development Authority (Neda) Acting Director General Augusto Santos said the 10 projects would amount to at least P63.35 billion.


Included on the list are the P3.01-billion North Luzon East Expressway (NLEE) Project, P38.87- billion Metro Manila Tollway (Nlex-Slex Connection via C6), P11.52-billion MRT Line 2 East Extension to Masinag, Antipolo and P2.80-billion Panguil Bay Bridge.

The list also included the Operation and Maintenance (O&M) of the Subic-Clark-Tarlac Expressway (SCTEx); P5.20-billion 300 million liters water per day (MLD) Metropolitan Waterworks and Sewerage System (MWSS) Bulk Water Supply Project; P1.95-billion 50 MLD Wawa River Project; and the Department of Energy’s Power Capacity Requirements for the Luzon Grid of 1,950 megawatts (MW) from 2010 to 2014, Visayas Grid of 820 MW from 2011 to 2014 and Mindanao Grid, 850 MW from 2009 to 2014.

The 10 projects are included in the updated P2.06-trillion Comprehensive Infrastructure Investment Program, which identifies the government’s major infrastructure projects to be implemented from 2007 until beyond 2010. The projects will be financed through various sources.

Santos said in a statement that 28 percent of the total projects, or P575 billion, will come from the private sector; 59 percent, or around P1.2 trillion, from the national government; and 6 percent, or P114 billion, from government-owned and -controlled corporations.

Government financial institutions will shoulder 1.3 percent, or P27 billion; local government units, 0.38 percent or P8 billion; and other sources such as grants, Universal Charge for Missionary Electrification and Energy Regulation 1-94 will be tapped for 6 percent, or P131 billion of the total investments.

Meanwhile, the NLEE involves the construction of toll roads on a 22-kilometer (km) two-lane toll road extending from Plaridel to San Rafael, Bulacan; a 34-km two-lane toll road extending from San Leonardo to San Diego, Cabanatuan; and a 45-km two-lane toll road connecting the Plaridel and Cabanatuan bypasses.

The Nlex-Slex connection via C6 involves the construction of a 59.5-km toll road from the Nlex in Bocaue to the Slex in Bicutan.

Santos said the project would also serve as an alternative north-south expressway link to decongest Edsa and other arterial roads.

The MRT Line 2 East Extension is a 4-km eastern extension of MRT Line 2 from Santolan in Pasig City to Masinag Junction in Antipolo, Rizal, with additional two passenger stations. The project is divided into two phases: the 1.5-km east extension from Santolan, Pasig City, ending at Imelda Avenue with one station located at Imelda Avenue/Marcos Highway, and the 3-km east extension from Sta. Lucia to Masinag in Antipolo, Rizal.

The Panguil Bay bridge project involves the construction of a 260-meter main bridge and 2,100-meter approach viaducts to link Central to Northern Mindanao.

Meanwhile, the issuance of notice to proceed for the Interim Service Provider (ISP) for the O&M of the SCTEx is expected in April 2008. The ISP will operate the facility for six months and may renew it for another six months. Afterward, the O&M of the SCTEx will be bid out for a permanent operator.

The 300 MLD bulk water-supply project aims to supply treated bulk water to the southern part of Metro Manila covered by Maynilad Water Services Inc., while the 50 MLD Wawa river project aims to provide water supply to 150,000 residents of San Mateo, Rodriguez, and Erap City in Rizal.

On the other hand, for the Luzon power grid project, Santos said the indicative supply from the private sector are the 550 megawatts (MW) provided by First Gen Holdings and 600 MW by KepCo in Batangas by 2009. Another 600 MW will be provided by GN Power by 2010.

Santos said of the total capacity of power grid project in Visayas, a 220-MW capacity has already been committed: 200 MW by KepCo and 20 MW from the Nasulo project.

The Mindanao power grid project, Santos said, will mean an additional 850-MW capacity for the province. Currently, 210 MW is from the Mindanao coal-fired power plant.

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Pasensya na, these are just stolen shots. Taking pictures within the LRT premises is not allowed.

^^ hehe it looks like a subway..

^^ Subway lang sya dyan sa Katipunan but the rest is elevated. :D

^^ Subway lang sya dyan sa Katipunan but the rest is elevated. :D

Nice pictures.

dang it! sayang. sana lahat subway. hehe

Nice shots (even if stolen:)). Can you steal more?:lol::lol:

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Pasensya na, these are just stolen shots. Taking pictures within the LRT premises is not allowed.

May underground station pala ang Purple Line. I thought it's entirely elevated. Very nice shots btw.:)

^^ I've always wondered what the Katipunan station looks like. Thanks for the pics! :)

Nice shots (even if stolen:)). Can you steal more?:lol::lol:

I'll try but I won't risk confiscation of my digicam, hehe!!! :D

^^ Better to steal than to ask the LRTA. They won't give permission unless you're the media!

ganda nung sign, "way out"..:D

Ang alam kong ginagawa kapag nahuli kang nagpipicture ipapakita mo sa guard na binura mo ung picture coconfiscate lang siguro kapag ayaw mong idelete. Unless may third party software ka to recover the deleted pics then I guess it's good xD

Matagal na, nakakainis nga kung bakit MRT ang nasa EDSA dapat yung Megatren kasi una, walang masyadong sumasakay sa Megatren pero siksikan ang MRT... what has become to our homeland na ba?

ok lang naman ang purple line na nandun sa recto-santolan, kse during rush hour din, this is reasonably packed with commuters, the problem for blue line is the size and length ng train, dapat ganon din sya ka size ng line2... at dapat seamless din sa loob.....

ganda nung sign, "way out"..:D

yeah, just like the London Underground
http://www.dkimages.com/discover/previews/759/228589.JPG

^^ i think here in NY it's "EXIT" then followed by the street/landmark above the station...