Metro Manila LRT and MRT Lines - Compiled Threads [Archive] - Page 22

evilgenius15

August 26th, 2008, 12:46 PM

ung monorail ba sa cement lang na track sya tumatakbo? ang ganda kc nung monorail from the city of singapore to sentosa..haha tska may overhead electric wire din ba ang monorail o wala na?...

Sana introduce sa mrt 4 or mrt 7 man (kung sino mag ssubway sa kanila) ung 3rd rail.. wag na overhead electric... para kung sino man magttresspass sa subway tunnel.. eh di Zapppppp.. haha.. kuryente abot nun..

wala na atang overhead wires ang monorail dahil nasa rail na mismo...
parang katulad nito...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/07/Kl_monorail.jpg/250px-Kl_monorail.jpg
pero may mga overhead rails ang monorail...
ibig sabihin, ganito...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2b/Schwebebahn_ueber_Strasse.jpg/180px-Schwebebahn_ueber_Strasse.jpg

woohooo... 3rd rail? konting basa lang eh short circuit na agad siguro
hehehe...

nacucurious lang talaga ako...
magiging superLAWAK ba ng mga stations ng LRT7
dahil sa superLAWAK na commonwealth avenue?

evilgenius15

August 26th, 2008, 12:47 PM

leechtat

August 26th, 2008, 03:17 PM

Depends on what you mean by "underground". The only true underground station in the entire SRTS would be Katipunan on MRT-2. While the platforms of Ayala and Buendia stations are underground, their concourse areas are above-ground, so they are not underground per se.

^^ i must agree... and this design have advantages also since transition to subway line is possible..

what they Thais have a subway? How could they ? Well I guess we should do it too now.

^^ ahuh, i was so envious when i got the chance to ride it.. but it i think it would be better if we improve existing lines and just make a transition line for mrt4 subway (if ever it gets built).. something like that..

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff335/suroycccp/manila-map-1.jpg

ito ideya ko(base sa mga nakaplano na)..

maganda kaya tong green line? along ayala avenue papunta fort galing lrt 1? ung line along quezon avenue, saan ba talaga magtatapos? dinikit ko na lang tuloy sa blumentritt, dadaan yan ng tondo, haha..

^^ connecting it to blumentritt lrt1 is a wise choice... the southrail blumentritt station is located in that area... it would be quite hard to connect these lines though since celadon manila and sm san lazaro (former san lazaro hippodrome) is in the way...

unless, you make the connection in tayuman then continue the line passing through lacson ave then españa to q.ave and finally an eliptical station terminal... or still connect it to blumentritt but construct the line above the present ROW of the southrail to españa... ay.. nakakahilo.. let's play railroad tycoon na lang..

Sky Harbor

August 26th, 2008, 04:19 PM

At least not all VAT revenues go merely to P500 one-time subsidies for the poor. :lol:

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Arroyo: No more loans; gov’t financing LRT-MRT loop project (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/nation/view/20080826-156953/Arroyo-No-more-loans-govt-financing-LRT-MRT-loop-project)

By Lira Dalangin-Fernandez
INQUIRER.net
First Posted 18:12:00 08/26/2008

CLARK FREEPORT ZONE, Philippines -- Instead of borrowing from foreign creditors, President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo, said the government will finance the P6.3-billion Light Rail Transit-Metro Rail Transit (LRT-MRT) loop project.

The loop will connect LRT Line 1’s Monumento Avenue end-station in Caloocan City with the MRT end-station at North Avenue, Quezon City.

Funds for the project will be sourced from the revenues from the expanded value added tax, Arroyo said.

"We will use the proceeds from our VAT collections to close the LRT-MRT loop. Seeking foreign loans takes too much time and, anyway, we have the money to spend," she said in a tete-a-tete with reporters here Monday night.

Arroyo said VAT revenues are expected to hit P100 billion this year, with almost a fifth in windfall collections from skyrocketing fuel prices in the world market.

Presidential adviser on the Luzon Urban Beltway super-region Edgardo Pamintuan said using the VAT revenues would complete the project faster than waiting for private funding or loans.

The government has set May 2010 for the project's completion.

spearhead

August 26th, 2008, 04:42 PM

My best wishes! Goodluck!

kaelthas18

August 26th, 2008, 04:45 PM

oo nga nman , kaya naman na siguro ng gov't ni arroyo gastusan ung additional 3 stations ng lrt 1 north extension noh.. loan ng loan kaya nababaon sa utang ang pinas eh..

Out of topic lang ha..

tutuo ba na binenta na ni arroyo ung spratlys??

cq40

August 26th, 2008, 06:30 PM

Eto nga nga lang ang mga maipagmamalaki ni GMA hirap na hirap pang matapos, sana lang simulan na yan hihi. Can't wait.

jefflacs

August 26th, 2008, 07:17 PM

^^ construction of LRT1 - MRT3 loop is already underway :D

hiiamdib

August 26th, 2008, 07:53 PM

pag nagkaroon ng subway sa ust/españa area, oceanarium ang dating.
LOL

nice, edi bumili ka lang ng ticket me libre tour ka na sa oceanarium ng spain.

^^ construction of LRT1 - MRT3 loop is already underway :D

may pictures na?

cq40

August 26th, 2008, 07:54 PM

pag nagkaroon ng subway sa ust/españa area, oceanarium ang dating.
LOL
Oceanarium ng kanal creatures! Nyahaha!

queetz@home

August 27th, 2008, 01:11 AM

^^ construction of LRT1 - MRT3 loop is already underway :D

Wala pa bang pictures ng construction? Kahit digging pa lang, okay na yun... ;)

RonnieR

August 27th, 2008, 06:39 AM

I've seen a picture of diggings in the newspaper once....

wheel of steel

August 27th, 2008, 07:54 AM

This is the already the first harvest of the long time sacrifice of the Filipino people. VAT begins to pay off the Filipinos. I believe, this will tremendously increase the effort of the government to funds it's own project right from its own pocket. It also means that we are about to hit a balanced budget in the coming months... :)

evilgenius15

August 27th, 2008, 09:09 AM

Wala pa bang pictures ng construction? Kahit digging pa lang, okay na yun... ;)

eto mga nakikita ko pag papunta ako ng monumento...
POST n (where n is real number)
3 + 96 (anu ulit ibig sabihin nito??? tinuro 'to sa cwts namin eh, huhuhu...
may something distance...)

RonnieR

August 27th, 2008, 09:11 AM

RonnieR

August 27th, 2008, 12:18 PM

By Abigail Kwok
INQUIRER.net
First Posted 16:25:00 08/27/2008

MANILA, Philippines -- The Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA) Line 1 has posed an eight-year high number of commuters on Wednesday with 497,008 passengers, LRTA administrator Melquiades Robles has announced.

Robles told media that the number of commuters this Wednesday outnumbered that of Feb. 2, 2000, which posed a passenger volume of 458,061.

Robles attributed the “surge” of passengers in Line 1, which traverses Monumento to Baclaran, to the high prices of oil and fare.

He said that the agency has increased its trains to accommodate the increasing number of passengers.

“The ridership capacity of the LRTA lines is unprecedented, it is in fact the biggest riding capacity,” Robles said.

He also assured the public that both Lines 1 and 2 (traversing Recto to Santolan) could accommodate the increase.

LRT Line 1 has 139 trains that can carry as much as 1,309, 680 passengers per day or 38,520 persons per hour per direction. Meanwhile, LRT Line 2 has 16 trains that can carry a maximum of 730, 240 passengers per day.

Robles said that the expected “closed loop” train system, which will connect the Metro Rail Transit (MRT) North Edsa-Taft Avenue route to the Monumento station of LRT Line 1, would also be beneficial to the passengers.

ericlucky290

August 28th, 2008, 06:19 AM

LRTA ready for ridership surge from north extension (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/metro/view/20080828-157245/LRTA-ready-for-ridership-surge-from-north-extension)
By Riza T. Olchondra
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 03:08:00 08/28/2008

MANILA, Philippines – The Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA) assured commuters that its northward extension would not use up its trains’ capacity, thanks to a recent expansion scheme.

“Our average daily ridership is nearing 400,000 but we can absorb up to about 900,000 since we acquired new trains ahead of demand. So Line 1 can take on new passengers even when we extend northward (from Monumento to North Edsa),” LRTA Administrator Melquiades Robles said in a phone interview Wednesday.

The LRTA issued a statement earlier saying that LRT-1 (Baclaran-Monumento) reached a record ridership of 497,008 passengers in a single day.

The new one-day record was set on Aug. 22, a Friday. The previous record of 458,061 was set on Feb. 2, 2000.

Data from the LRTA showed that it fielded 30 trains on Aug. 22. The average load factor or congestion level on the said day was 63 percent.

The LRT-1 system has a stable of 139 coaches that may be configured into 3-car or 4-car train combinations depending on passenger demand. It can carry as many as 1,309,680 passengers per day or 38,520 persons per hour per direction (pphpd).

“Of course it will be a different matter when the (LRT-1) south extension opens because that will easily bring the ridership to 800,000 or even one million,” Robles said.

Work on the south extension has not yet started, but the north extension project is underway and is set to be completed in May 2010.

RonnieR

August 28th, 2008, 06:39 AM

habagatcentral1

August 28th, 2008, 07:01 AM

^^ Frustrating isn't it? I've heard this project since I was in high school and still....hay. When will we ever taste the convenience of mass transportation here in Cavite?

kalbongdad

August 28th, 2008, 07:21 AM

^^ Frustrating isn't it? I've heard this project since I was in high school and still....hay. When will we ever taste the convenience of mass transportation here in Cavite?

pag si bayani fernando na ang president sa 2010 :lol:

RonnieR

August 28th, 2008, 07:35 AM

^^ Frustrating isn't it? I've heard this project since I was in high school and still....hay. When will we ever taste the convenience of mass transportation here in Cavite?

Very frustrating....but I think it's going to be done....more lobbying at the top to move this project.

kratos1211

August 28th, 2008, 12:15 PM

The LRT-1 system has a stable of 139 coaches that may be configured into 3-car or 4-car train combinations depending on passenger demand. It can carry as many as 1,309,680 passengers per day or 38,520 persons per hour per direction (pphpd).

Is the LRT1 train the same as MRT3? maybe they can temporary lease to MRT3 some of the coaches to help their capacity problem.

queetz@home

August 29th, 2008, 12:47 AM

^^ Its not the same but its compatible. The trainsets of LRT1 and MRT3 are "off the shelf", meaning the transit agencies can simply browse through manufacturer's catalogue and pick whatever trainset they like, negotiate a package, finalize the order and place it in the tracks for service when the units are delivered. This is why LRT1 can theorically physically link with MRT3 for a truly seamless connection and its only some legal mumbo jumbo by how the two lines are managed as to why this isn't happening.... :nuts:

kalbongdad

August 29th, 2008, 01:21 AM

well as we already know....yung mga nasa pwesto appointed sa mga critical areas of transport ay usually walang alam o nangangapa....whoever is the general heading mrt3 nde ba sya nagtataka bakit yung line lang niya ang pangit at di kumikita....something must be wrong somewhere...malamang isa sya don sa problema.....bakit ang lrt1 pinakaluma kumikita mas bago pa ang mrt3 dun pero bakit parang mas laspag na ang mrt3 nasa pamamalakad lang yan....kung clueless nasa taas....malamang yung nasa ibaba mga clueless din....tingnan nyo na lang mga stations ng mrt3 parang lugar ng mga iskwater nakadikit na kung ano-ano...sa salamin sa pader....mga tali...kung saan saan yung tali pa naman na pang kalabaw :lol:.....mga station managers ng mrt3 clueless....world class ang facility...low class mga nagpaptakbo kaya ang resulta chaos...

Wolf1968 ^_^

August 29th, 2008, 01:32 AM

mga tol wala ba tayong pics update dyan?..kasi sa south ako, kaya di ko na kikita ung mga ng yayari sa taas..paki naman mga tol,,hehehe.. salamat.. ^_^

bustero

August 29th, 2008, 11:26 AM

I don't get this , was this merged with the old thread.

Anyway I prefer we copy the singapore model for our trains, much more similar climate and use, IMO.

evilgenius15

August 29th, 2008, 02:33 PM

monorail haha
(adik na ako)

habagatcentral1

August 29th, 2008, 03:21 PM

Hay,

Experienced one of the "bad days" of MRT operation. It took me 45 minutes from Taft to Cubao earlier this afternoon because one train isn't working well in the system...Ganoon pala ka-sensitive tong MRT pagdating sa operations. One mistake would set a chain of events, just like in aircraft turnaround.

cq40

August 29th, 2008, 04:02 PM

Uy nangyari yan kaninang morning i was there, and it was super crazy..hehe

in_a_rush

August 29th, 2008, 05:25 PM

kakasakay ko lang ng LRT1 kanina after a long time, na-impress ako. napagsarhan ako ng tren pero wala pang 3 minutes may kasunod agad.. tapos bagong-bago at ang lamig pa sa loob ng coach.

aranetacoliseum

August 29th, 2008, 07:36 PM

Construction of MRT-7 to start in January

SAN JOSE DEL MONTE - Its all systems go for the construction of the $1.2-billion Metro Rail Transit 7 (MRT) that will link this city to MRT-2 in Quezon City.

Mayor Eduardo Roquero of this city told The STAR that construction of the billion dollar railway will start by January next year.

"Nag-post na ng $10-million bond yung proponent after no signing ng Memorandum of Agreement (MOA) two months ago," he said referring to Universal Light Rail Transit Corp. (ULRTC).

He said negotiation for the MRT-7 right of way is underway to pave the way for the massive construction starting January.

The 20.7 kilometer MRT-7 will be link the MRT-2 in North Edsa in Quezon City to the proposed inter-modal station at Barangay Tungkong Mangga here where at least 200 hectares of land was acquired for the construction of an industrial complex.

Roquero said that aside from a better mass transport system between the two cities which will cut travel time by half, the MRT-7 will provide at least 20,000 jobs to local residents on the construction phase alone. -- Dino balabo(Philstar News Service, www.philstar.com)

jefflacs

August 29th, 2008, 08:05 PM

^^ confused ata yung writer sa mga LRT/MRT line nos.

ericlucky290

August 29th, 2008, 09:28 PM

Construction of MRT-7 to start in January

"Nag-post na ng $10-million bond yung proponent after no signing ng Memorandum of Agreement (MOA) two months ago," he said referring to Universal Light Rail Transit Corp. (ULRTC).

Na sign ba yung MOA or hindi?

RonnieR

August 30th, 2008, 04:21 AM

Na sign ba yung MOA or hindi?

It was already awarded to them....good, all systems go na for MRT 7.

Sky Harbor

August 30th, 2008, 04:26 AM

^^ Another typo, it is. We need better proofreaders.

Porknight

August 30th, 2008, 09:09 AM

I don't care what it's patterned after, I just want to see the following things:

1. Shared stations where passengers can easily transfer from one line to another. The way the three current lines are designed is a JOKE! In other countries, when two lines cross, they share a common station. In Manila you are required to go back to the STREET before coming back to the adjacent station -- who was the idiot who planned that?

They share the stations but not the rails. This can be done easily in a subway. But I doubt we can't have it with our MRT/LRTs lines. Correct if I'm wrong , actually I would be glad.

wheel of steel

August 30th, 2008, 10:37 AM

MRT7 construction set to January next year..

SAN JOSE DEL MONTE - Its all systems go for the construction of the $1.2-billion Metro Rail Transit 7 (MRT) that will link this city to MRT-2 in Quezon City.
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Mayor Eduardo Roquero of this city told The STAR that construction of the billion dollar railway will start by January next year.

"Nag-post na ng $10-million bond yung proponent after no signing ng Memorandum of Agreement (MOA) two months ago," he said referring to Universal Light Rail Transit Corp. (ULRTC).

He said negotiation for the MRT-7 right of way is underway to pave the way for the massive construction starting January.

The 20.7 kilometer MRT-7 will be link the MRT-2 in North Edsa in Quezon City to the proposed inter-modal station at Barangay Tungkong Mangga here where at least 200 hectares of land was acquired for the construction of an industrial complex.

Roquero said that aside from a better mass transport system between the two cities which will cut travel time by half, the MRT-7 will provide at least 20,000 jobs to local residents on the construction phase alone.

mygz14

August 30th, 2008, 12:23 PM

richard24

August 30th, 2008, 12:31 PM

grabe naman reporter na nagsulat niyang news. daming mali.

hecky12

August 30th, 2008, 12:32 PM

pag nagkaroon ng subway sa ust/españa area, oceanarium ang dating.
LOL

hahaha... seryoso ako sa pagbabasa ng mga comments sa page 4 until nabasa ko to.. natawa ako sobra... why not nga naman!!!

hecky12

August 30th, 2008, 12:37 PM

subway, possible yan,why not.. Bangkok nga below sea level pero may metro na subway cla, tayo pa kaya.. drainage management lang yan.. at discipline ng mga tao na wag mag tapon ng basura, at pulutin pag nakikita ng kalat sa kalsada..

yup... posibleng posible itong mangyari... tutal ang lowest point naman ng pinas ay ang philippine sea sa kabilang side pa yun so pwedeng magkaron ng subway sa metro manila..

pero maraming tests ang gagawin nila sa lupa kasi parang hindi yata pwedeng maglagay ng subway along marikina kasi diba may fault line dun... saka sa palagay ko ang natetest pa lang na MATIBAY ang underground/ilalim e yung undergrounds ng MRT STATIONS..which is buendia and ayala... matibay daw talaga ang mga bato dun.. yun yung kinoconsider nila ata sa paglalagay ng subway...

hecky12

August 30th, 2008, 12:53 PM

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff335/suroycccp/manila-map-1.jpg

ito ideya ko(base sa mga nakaplano na)..

maganda kaya tong green line? along ayala avenue papunta fort galing lrt 1? ung line along quezon avenue, saan ba talaga magtatapos? dinikit ko na lang tuloy sa blumentritt, dadaan yan ng tondo, haha..

galing ng drawing mo ha.. anyways, yung gray na line i think magstart siya sa old bilibid somewhere diyan sa may recto tatagos yata ng espana then quezon ave. ang ending nito malaman e sa novaliches daw..

hecky12

August 30th, 2008, 12:58 PM

hecky12

August 30th, 2008, 01:01 PM

merong tawag dito yung mayor ng SJDM Bulacan e... forgot yung term niya... something _____ CITY...

mr.suroy

August 30th, 2008, 01:13 PM

wheel of steel

August 30th, 2008, 01:16 PM

mejo naligaw ako... tama ba ang nabasa ko? MRT2 NORTH EDSA? baka MRT3

This is correct, the connection is called the university belt line designed to cross UP and Ateneo up to Katipunan, just don't where that part of connection along LRT2. MRT7, MRT3 and LRT1 connection is different from LRT2 and MRT7 connection.

wheel of steel

August 30th, 2008, 01:21 PM

hehe di ko nga natanggal sa picture yung original na pinagkuhanan ko niyan eh.. wala kasi ako alam sa north manila proper.

sa tokyo pala ako pinanganak, kaya medyo naaalala ko pa yung ilang rail systems dun. magiging comparable kaya ang lrt1/mrt3 loop pag natapos na, sa pinakasaturated na line sa tokyo, ang yamanote loop line? ayon sa nabasa ko eh 3.5 million average ang daily ridership nun. (mrt3 has 500k and lrt 1 has 450k).

atleast sa japan sila ang gumagawa ng sarili nilang coaches. sana may magpioneer na rail company dito sa pilipinas na gumawa ng coaches, kasi mas marami pang lines ang pede itayo, napakapromising ng business na ito, atleast sa susunod na 20-30 years.

Fresh from my mind is the Yamanote Line loop of Tokyo. Usually, the normal no. of cars at 10 units while on most busy occatins, they add 6 more unit to make it 16 cars per ride.

One of the famous Tokyo Subway train was the Tozai Line with lengths 39km. Also uses 10 units of cars for most of it's operations.

These all incomparable to our trains. Max. cars only up to 4. We need to double it by at least another 4 cars to solve practically our worsening train service.

hecky12

August 30th, 2008, 01:49 PM

evilgenius15

August 30th, 2008, 03:59 PM

merong tawag dito yung mayor ng SJDM Bulacan e... forgot yung term niya... something _____ CITY...

super city ata? hehehe...

evilgenius15

August 30th, 2008, 04:02 PM

aok! oo nga sana nga merong isang rail company na gumawa ng coaches dito sa pinas... pwede kaya ang SARAO? heheheh

sana yung northrail at southrail gagamit ng train coaches, sa sobrang haba ba naman ng biyahe... may kaharap ka, hgahaha

kratos1211

August 30th, 2008, 05:47 PM

merong tawag dito yung mayor ng SJDM Bulacan e... forgot yung term niya... something _____ CITY...

195 hectare San Jose Del Monte City

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3202/2811350032_f0c195331c.jpg

PasigGuy

August 30th, 2008, 07:51 PM

ericlucky290

August 31st, 2008, 04:15 AM

195 hectare San Jose Del Monte City

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3202/2811350032_f0c195331c.jpg

Yung bang nasa harap ng green na roof is another SM Mall?

evilgenius15

August 31st, 2008, 05:47 AM

Yung bang nasa harap ng green na roof is another SM Mall?

i think... kasi may nakita ako tatawagin daw ang LRT7 na SM Line...

Sky Harbor

August 31st, 2008, 06:09 AM

^^ It is. But I wonder what color it can be. Since it replaces MRT-4, why not make it red? It's not like they can use orange anyway (PNR Southrail na yung orange sa SRTS).

RonnieR

August 31st, 2008, 09:07 AM

^^ It is. But I wonder what color it can be. Since it replaces MRT-4, why not make it red? It's not like they can use orange anyway (PNR Southrail na yung orange sa SRTS).

What do you mean about MRT 7 that replaces MRT 4? I think MRT line 4 is still in the pipeline but maybe needs to be realigned particularly in QC section.

evilgenius15

August 31st, 2008, 10:42 AM

What do you mean about MRT 7 that replaces MRT 4? I think MRT line 4 is still in the pipeline but maybe needs to be realigned particularly in QC section.

iniisip ko dati na dapat tinuloy nalang nila ung sm fairview-quiapo route...
kasi parang mas efficient gamitin... or ganito
SM Fairview - SM North or Quiapo
magddetour yung train pagdating sa QMC kung papuntang SM North or Quiapo
para astig...

evilgenius15

August 31st, 2008, 10:46 AM

^^ It is. But I wonder what color it can be. Since it replaces MRT-4, why not make it red? It's not like they can use orange anyway (PNR Southrail na yung orange sa SRTS).

wag naman sana pink... magiging MMDA highway na ang commonwealth kung
ganun, hehehe

kaelthas18

August 31st, 2008, 03:06 PM

bkit wlang singapore sa list?

kaelthas18

August 31st, 2008, 03:25 PM

para san ba ito ?

may kuryente ba ito?

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/1301/whatsthisforeo9.jpg

kalbongdad

September 1st, 2008, 03:56 AM

as far as the lrt or mrt infra is concerned walang problema yun they're up to world class standards....yung problema sa atin ay ang mga nagpapatakbo ng mrt at lrt....mga clueless....they are uncultured.

Case in point...

posters in walls....there are proper ways to post those things

mga tali na nylon or abaca na pantali sa kalabaw...there are stainless steel chains for that

mga kung ano-anong announcements na naka paskil....flips are not idiots, well maybe some of them are...but they have bullboards for that

kung hindi nila alam ang patakaran ng station that is the station desks are for...nde lang tambayan yon ng mga walang ginawagawang mga empleyado at mga guards na bopols.....hindi solusyon ang tadtarin ng announcements ang buong ticket booth at magmukha nang kadiri

kalinisan....ung basic na kalinisan lang hindi pa maibigay....ano ang silbi ng station managers dyan....nakaupo lang at nagkakamut ng b$%^g ang mga managers na marunong gumagawa rin hindi lang taga-utos napakaliit ng istasyon para hindi mapansin ng station managers na marumi ang station nya...clueless lang talaga ang mga ito...kailangan dito seminar yung tipong ginagawa ni bayani sa mga taong ewan...umagang umaga pinaiinit ang ulo ko:lol:

btw.....i promised to post pics here on the development of the lrt-mrt loop well, to my surprise wala pang ginagawa...i passed by edsa caloocan just for the purpose.....yung dating announcement na inumpisahan na pa picture lang pala yun....nilagyan lang para may maipakita...mukhang meron hindi nagsasabi sa presidente ng totoong status ng project. Kahit ako natuwa na dati na meron nang mga naghuhukay dati...ngayon as in wala kang makikita na kahit ano o kahit anong hukay man lang....well...there you are ..yung pinagmamalaking loop...mukhang nagkaunsehan lang....siguro delayed talaga ito....nde lang nila masabi sa pangulo baka mabulyawan sila....so paumanhin mga kabayan wala akong maipo post na pics dahil walang developments dun sa area na yun....ang edsa caloocan...edsa caloocan pa rin.....mukhang edsa kalokohan na...:lol:

wheel of steel

September 1st, 2008, 04:39 AM

para san ba ito ?

may kuryente ba ito?

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/1301/whatsthisforeo9.jpg

Grounding System!!! Absolutely Zero (0) Volts... :)

sushi___

September 1st, 2008, 06:50 AM

http://bayan-natin.blogspot.com/2008/08/palace-hikes-public-works-spending-to.html

Palace hikes public works spending to revive growth

Roy Pelovello
The Manila Standard
http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=news1_aug30_2008

MALACAÑANG is proposing a 20-percent increase in public works spending next year to help revive the economy, Budget Secretary Rolando Andaya Jr. said yesterday.

The proposed 2009 National Budget sets aside P147.5 billion for infrastructure projects, an amount 20.7 percent higher than this year’s P122.2-billion appropriation and about 1.7 percent of the expected gross domestic product next year from 1.6 percent this year.

The proposed budget for the Highways Department next year increases to P230 billion when combined with the P32.1 billion to be spent on infrastructure by government-owned and -controlled corporations, and by another P50 billion if the budget for infrastructure building by the local governments is added.

“The government had already seen the signs of the slowdown early enough, and so it had to let go of its target of a balanced budget this year to stimulate economic growth via increased infrastructure spending,” Andaya said.

The depth of the economy’s slowdown in the first two quarters has surprised many analysts, and apparently even the National Economic Development Authority, which lowered the first quarter growth to 4.7 percent from 5.2 because of revisions in data for construction, trade and foreign inflows.

Second quarter growth was even lower at 4.6 percent.

Andaya said the biggest slice of the 2009 infrastructure pie, at P83.9 billion, would go to building roads and bridges.

The amount excludes the P4.37 billion that the Agriculture Department will use to build farm-to-market roads, and the P1.63 billion appropriated by the Agrarian Reform Department for infrastructure building.

“The increased funding for infrastructure is to address the concerns of foreign investors who would want to see more roads and bridges,” Andaya said.

“As these are being built, they generate jobs. When finished, they spur economic activity.”

The government is also allocating P13.2 billion for irrigation and P7.6 billion to repair or expand provincial airports.

In Metro Manila, Malacañang has set aside P4.3 billion to extend the Light Rail Transit’s Line 1 to the north, P858 million initially to extend Line 1 to Cavite from Baclaran, and P1.8 billion for Metro Rail Transit 3’s “operational requirements.”

The 2009 budget also set aside P8.519 billion to build 11,480 classrooms and 750 science laboratories and computer rooms.

And for the first time, the government would be providing the Health Department with P1.5 billion to supply clean water to hundreds of needy villages, Andaya said.

It is also allocating P7.5 billion to build and repair seawalls and flood control systems, P151 million to repair ports and lighthouses, P1.16 billion to the Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao, and P20.68 billion for the Agriculture and Fisheries Modernization Fund.

>>>> LINE 1 Extension to CAVITE may 858 M by 2009 ==> For civil works or
for consultation again?

Sky Harbor

September 1st, 2008, 03:08 PM

If we all love the "Ramdam ang Kaunlaran" wrap advertising on MRT-2, you'll love where they decided to put it next. On my way to La Salle from school, I saw a second-generation LRT-1 train's front car wrapped in the PCSO wrap. The rest was the regular bare livery.

Looks like we'll see more of the President in public transport. :lol:

habagatcentral1

September 1st, 2008, 06:46 PM

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3284/2817274765_e3c1152f17.jpg?v=0

Lucentino

September 1st, 2008, 08:57 PM

I wonder what the poll is for. Personally, I haven't seen nor experienced any or all of the choices mentioned and I believe RP's LRT & MRT can be different from the rest of the world! As long as we have an efficient and economical rail transport services, there is no need to compare with others!

So when is the ground breaking for that line to Cavite?... Problem with government and media, they dont publish timetables and details to playsafe!

tigidig14

September 1st, 2008, 09:12 PM

pi_malejana

September 1st, 2008, 11:12 PM

^^ nagustuhan mo ba tigs ung subway sa nyc??:D

habagatcentral1

September 2nd, 2008, 02:37 AM

Where did the maintenance go for these vendo machines of LRT? In Cubao, most of them are not in good shape, only 2 out of many vendo machines accept bills. Most of them are left in one corner, unused. :ohno:

Calling LRTA.

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/2/photos/174/600x600/42/Transpo02.jpg?et=9AhJV%2CxXcAuWNzG3hLT6Nw&nmid=97827103

RonnieR

September 2nd, 2008, 05:57 AM

habagatcentral1

September 2nd, 2008, 06:01 AM

^^ By the way, this is Katipunan Station vendo machines. There are no vendo machines available to take in P20 & P50 bills, so off you go to PAO (Passenger Assistance Office) booth to have your paper peso bills converted into slot machine tokens also known as peso denominations of singko pesos....hehe!! :D

If you'll see the Cubao station's vendo machine, you couldn't avoid wondering where does your tax and fare go with just maintaining these vendo machines. They instead created make-shift ticket booths.

I'll try to send them an e-mail regarding this...Tignan natin kung mag-rereply (50-50 chances or 60 to 80% chance that they won't reply, nyahaha!!)

RonnieR

September 2nd, 2008, 07:50 AM

jefflacs

September 2nd, 2008, 08:10 AM

^^ yeah madaming ganyang idle vending machine. Yung iba nagmukha tuloy cheap dahil sa mga nawawalanag button, mga papel na nakadikit etc.

richard24

September 2nd, 2008, 06:26 PM

kasi its cheaper to open up a booth (manual selling) than to operate too much machines. sa santolan naman most machines are working. karamihan nga lang, barya lang tinatanggap. i dont mind that. since i seldom use bills when buying tickets.

and its a lot easier to buy with coins.

pinaka sakit sa ulo is V.Mapa. 3 lang kasi ang vendo machine dun. as in 3 lang. minsan isa lang gumagana.

habagatcentral1

September 2nd, 2008, 07:26 PM

^^ Ubos ang barya mo...ubos ang kreng kreng sa bulsa. :lol:
Anyway, its good for those who does use LRT-2 frequently but not those one-timer commuters like I.

I was thinking of purchasing a Flash Pass for LRT-MRT for P250 per week unlimited access but I don't know if its worthed, although I use the three systems more often.

richard24

September 2nd, 2008, 07:34 PM

habagatcentral1

September 2nd, 2008, 08:00 PM

^^ Ang sa Cubao kasi very disappointing lang makita ang vendo machines left in cold corners of the station.

Ang MRT naman, talagang binigyang walang halaga ang vending machines nito. Mahaba pa rin ang pila at nasa isang tabi pa rin ang vendo machines.

hecky12

September 2nd, 2008, 08:16 PM

195 hectare San Jose Del Monte City

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3202/2811350032_f0c195331c.jpg

WOW! ang laki nito... ano ano bang mga establishment ang nakaabang for SJDM?

hecky12

September 2nd, 2008, 08:21 PM

What do you mean about MRT 7 that replaces MRT 4? I think MRT line 4 is still in the pipeline but maybe needs to be realigned particularly in QC section.

MRT4 is the red line i think.. at tuloy yun.. sinabi na yan ng bayaw ko na taga novaliches..

hecky12

September 2nd, 2008, 08:24 PM

dapat ipost nyo yung mga map nung mga subway na menention, so, we can compare. saka bias talga, isa lang sa mga choices ang napuntahan ko at sobrang complicated at expensive kung ikukumpira yung subway natin sa ny. i hope they can somehow imitate ours to ny, but lets be logical, sana nga lang magawang ganun

marami bang subway sa NYC? kasi merong na feature sa i-witness about sa mga daga sa subway ng NYC... lalang na-share ko lang.. pero maganda naman yung subway infairness..

hecky12

September 2nd, 2008, 08:29 PM

So when is the ground breaking for that line to Cavite?... Problem with government and media, they dont publish timetables and details to playsafe!

wala pa ngang timetable for this.. pero siempre maganda na yung playsafe kesa naman magsabi sila ng date of completion e di nabatikos na naman sila.. kaya maige na yung ganito na walang alam ang public kung kelan magsisimula at kung kelan magtatapos...

kaelthas18

September 2nd, 2008, 08:52 PM

^^ onga., useful din yung machines na yun kasi at least nababawasan barya ko sa bulsa. hindi kasya. :lol: hehehe. sana nga lang, ayusin nila yung pang tanggap ng bills. mabilis ata kasi masira yun eh.

i saw nga one time at recto binubuksan ng maintenance ung vendo, may motherboard pa pala sa loob at puro electronics ung nsa loob.. sana magka vendo din ang mrt3 and sana ung vendo hndi puro 1peso ang sinusukli, dapat pwede din 10php at 5php ung isukli nito..haha

habagatcentral1

September 2nd, 2008, 09:01 PM

^^ Para ka ngang nanalo sa slot machine sa casino kung puro piso ang sukli mo, lalo na kung P50 sinaksak mo sa vendo machine, hehehe!!! :lol:

May nakukuha din tayong moral lesson:
"Mahalaga ang barya, impukin at gamiting ng tama." :D

Eriq

September 2nd, 2008, 11:28 PM

marami bang subway sa NYC? kasi merong na feature sa i-witness about sa mga daga sa subway ng NYC... lalang na-share ko lang.. pero maganda naman yung subway infairness..

http://www.blackstonesbarnyc.com/bs_images/nyc-Subway-map.jpg

evilgenius15

September 3rd, 2008, 09:26 AM

WOW! ang laki nito... ano ano bang mga establishment ang nakaabang for SJDM?

maraming nakaabang...
pagnatayo na ung lrt7 sa sjdm... mukhang may
chance na maging part na sila ng metro manila, heheh... ?

evilgenius15

September 3rd, 2008, 09:30 AM

MRT4 is the red line i think.. at tuloy yun.. sinabi na yan ng bayaw ko na taga novaliches..

kung madodominate na ang commonwealth ng lrt7
at gusto talaga ilagay sa quezon city ang mrt4...
baka sa quirino highway na yan ipapaslak?

evilgenius15

September 3rd, 2008, 09:33 AM

http://www.blackstonesbarnyc.com/bs_images/nyc-Subway-map.jpg

wow... astig traffic management ng mga rail transits... hehehe...
gusto ko gumawa ng ganyan pag engineer na me (sana lang)... T_T

barrera_marquez

September 3rd, 2008, 12:20 PM

Ang layo sa Metro Manila Rail Network!

Lucentino

September 3rd, 2008, 12:27 PM

evilgenius15

September 3rd, 2008, 01:10 PM

australia?

hiiamdib

September 4th, 2008, 07:02 AM

Baka mejo off na ito pero share ko lang pics ng MTA sa NYC na nakuha ko dun when I went there

http://photos-e.ak.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=752608&id=713910979

http://photos-e.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v195/0/92/713910979/n713910979_752612_2314.jpg

http://photos-f.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v195/0/92/713910979/n713910979_752613_2672.jpg

http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v195/0/92/713910979/n713910979_752618_4501.jpg
My Misteryosong foot... Floor nung tren

http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v195/0/92/713910979/n713910979_752624_6738.jpg

http://photos-g.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v195/0/92/713910979/n713910979_752630_8992.jpg

http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v195/0/92/713910979/n713910979_752632_9753.jpg

http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v195/0/92/713910979/n713910979_752634_615.jpg

diz

September 4th, 2008, 07:33 AM

^^ OMG NYC Subway stations look terrible. :eek:

RonnieR

September 4th, 2008, 07:49 AM

The new Beijing subway is miles away compared to NYC. Even other asian subways like Singapore, HK, are far better than NY subway.

habagatcentral1

September 4th, 2008, 07:56 AM

^^ Umm, IMO mas magannda pa ata ang MRT stations dito as compared to those NYC subway station above. Its just my opinion though.

ramvingar

September 4th, 2008, 08:33 AM

It would be great if they built an MRT line along Sucat Road in Paranaque. It can perhaps connect to the Southrail and LRT 1. There already is a central median they can build the posts on. That way they can get rid of the jeepneys. I think there is even an oversupply of jeepneys there. All the times I've taken one, they aren't even half full.

Another one along Zapote road would be good too except that I think they don't have space to build the pillars anymore.

Eriq

September 4th, 2008, 08:46 AM

The new Beijing subway is miles away compared to NYC. Even other asian subways like Singapore, HK, are far better than NY subway.

You also have to consider that the NY Subway was first opened in 1904. Most of these lines are very old and maintaining the stations while keeping it running can be a logistical nightmare in this city.

The subway may not look much but it serves this city well (most of the time).

RonnieR

September 4th, 2008, 09:00 AM

You also have to consider that the NY Subway was first opened in 1904. Most of these lines are very old and maintaining the stations while keeping it running can be a logistical nightmare in this city.

The subway may not look much but it serves this city well (most of the time).

Yeah, you're right but they should have at least renovated to keep up with the times. If people in NY are not complaining or are satisfied with it, then it is okay.

habagatcentral1

September 4th, 2008, 09:31 AM

^^ Well, I think the subways of NYC have been its trademark, like the jeepneys of Manila. Iconic of NYC. :)

Eriq

September 4th, 2008, 10:14 AM

^^ Haha, exactly.

Manila-X

September 4th, 2008, 11:33 AM

^^ Well, I think the subways of NYC have been its trademark, like the jeepneys of Manila. Iconic of NYC. :)

Unfortunately, alot of locals hate the jeepneys because they cause pollution, traffic, etc. Some want them out but getting rid of them is like getting rid of culture.

RonnieR

September 4th, 2008, 11:44 AM

Unfortunately, alot of locals hate the jeepneys because they cause pollution, traffic, etc. Some want them out but getting rid of them is like getting rid of culture.

I am one of them.....well, not really total ban but should not be allowed in major and secondary roads such as Espana, Aurora Boulevard, Ortigas Avenue and Extension, etc.

hecky12

September 4th, 2008, 01:00 PM

maraming nakaabang...
pagnatayo na ung lrt7 sa sjdm... mukhang may
chance na maging part na sila ng metro manila, heheh... ?

you mean MEGA MANILA? e diba ang bulacan is considered to be part of MEGA MANILA? correct me if im wrong...:)

hecky12

September 4th, 2008, 01:16 PM

kung madodominate na ang commonwealth ng lrt7
at gusto talaga ilagay sa quezon city ang mrt4...
baka sa quirino highway na yan ipapaslak?

ah ganun ba... kasi sa pagkakaalam ko.. yung MRT4 starts at a station close to Recto station on the Purple Line and Doroteo Jose station on the Yellow Line, near the Old Bilibid prison, and ends in Novaliches in Quezon City while MRT7 starts in Quezon City and traverses through Commonwealth Avenue, passing through Caloocan City and ending in the city of San Jose del Monte in Bulacan.

habagatcentral1

September 4th, 2008, 01:17 PM

Unfortunately, alot of locals hate the jeepneys because they cause pollution, traffic, etc. Some want them out but getting rid of them is like getting rid of culture.

Are you sure its a lot of 'em? Because as far as I know, majority of local commuters don't like buses (in boundary system) either because they act like jeepney drivers as well (and along with other reasons stated above). Maybe in big urban centers it is reality...but in smaller urban centers and rural areas, they are of necessity. And given the Filipino spirit of choosing where is the most affordable, then they would prefer to take jeepney than cabs; MRT than EDSA buses. Jeepney in Manila is very uncomfy but we are succumbed to reality, practicality and affordability. Enduring the crowd, pollution and some menacing jeepney drivers. What we need is a very efficient transport system in big as well as mid-sized urban centers.

Tell this to the government that until now, is very slow in implementing the modernization of the much needed mass transport infrastructure in Mega Manila. This is just my two cents worth, from a resident of suburban Cavite (which waited for the realization of the LRT-South Extension since High School!).:2cents:

hecky12

September 4th, 2008, 01:25 PM

eriq thanks for the railway map.. nahilo ako dun ha...

evilgenius15

September 4th, 2008, 04:59 PM

you mean MEGA MANILA? e diba ang bulacan is considered to be part of MEGA MANILA? correct me if im wrong...:)

yeah... part siya ng mega manila...
pero yung hypothesis ko (hehehe), baka ihiwalay na siya sa bulacan...
as in part na siya ng NCR, hehehe...

evilgenius15

September 4th, 2008, 05:01 PM

ah ganun ba... kasi sa pagkakaalam ko.. yung MRT4 starts at a station close to Recto station on the Purple Line and Doroteo Jose station on the Yellow Line, near the Old Bilibid prison, and ends in Novaliches in Quezon City while MRT7 starts in Quezon City and traverses through Commonwealth Avenue, passing through Caloocan City and ending in the city of San Jose del Monte in Bulacan.

hmmm...
tama sinabi mo... kaso...
what i know...
yung MRT4 at LRT7 ay magccross parehas sa commonwealth avenue
para makarating sa novaliches and bulacan, respectively...
eh nasa plano na ang LRT7... ibig sabihin, hindi na pwede makitandem ang
MRT4, baka i reroute na nila into another place......

hecky12

September 4th, 2008, 06:16 PM

yeah... part siya ng mega manila...
pero yung hypothesis ko (hehehe), baka ihiwalay na siya sa bulacan...
as in part na siya ng NCR, hehehe...

Ah okay.. na gets ko din ang ibig mong sabihin.. sana wag na siya ihiwalay sa bulacan... baka magkagulo na naman... yaan na lang siya dun at considered na lang siya as highy urbanized city..

hecky12

September 4th, 2008, 06:21 PM

hmmm...
tama sinabi mo... kaso...
what i know...
yung MRT4 at LRT7 ay magccross parehas sa commonwealth avenue
para makarating sa novaliches and bulacan, respectively...
eh nasa plano na ang LRT7... ibig sabihin, hindi na pwede makitandem ang
MRT4, baka i reroute na nila into another place......

yeah your right... planned na at okay na ang MRT7 pero iba naman ang magiging puno't dulo ng dalawa yun nga lang parehas silang dadaan ng commonwealth pero still iba ang puno at dulo.. para din itong LRT1, LRT2, at mrt3 magkakalink silang tatlo so malamang magkakaron ng link ang MRT4 at MRT7..

baka ganito ang gawin nila.. kasi malapad naman ang commonwealth kaya baka sa magkabilang gilid ng highway itayo ang dalawa.. tapos merong link stations somewhere siguro para siyang isang malaking gunting o ekis pagnagkataon..

evilgenius15

September 4th, 2008, 06:25 PM

yeah your right... planned na at okay na ang MRT7 pero iba naman ang magiging puno't dulo ng dalawa yun nga lang parehas silang dadaan ng commonwealth pero still iba ang puno at dulo.. para din itong LRT1, LRT2, at mrt3 magkakalink silang tatlo so malamang magkakaron ng link ang MRT4 at MRT7..

baka ganito ang gawin nila.. kasi malapad naman ang commonwealth kaya baka sa magkabilang gilid ng highway itayo ang dalawa.. tapos merong link stations somewhere siguro para siyang isang malaking gunting o ekis pagnagkataon..

possible..
at least maccarry talaga ng 2 lines ang huge number ng passengers, hehehe...
woohoo... super luwang talaga ng commonwealth...
kaso di kaya maging crowded na tignan commonwealth kung ganon?

evilgenius15

September 4th, 2008, 06:27 PM

Ah okay.. na gets ko din ang ibig mong sabihin.. sana wag na siya ihiwalay sa bulacan... baka magkagulo na naman... yaan na lang siya dun at considered na lang siya as highy urbanized city..

uu nga, hehheeh...
baka ilipat nalang yung capitol ng bulacan sa SJDM, hehhe...

hecky12

September 4th, 2008, 06:53 PM

possible..
at least maccarry talaga ng 2 lines ang huge number ng passengers, hehehe...
woohoo... super luwang talaga ng commonwealth...
kaso di kaya maging crowded na tignan commonwealth kung ganon?

edsa then... is commonwealth now... gets?! dati yung edsa parang katulad ng commonweealth ngayon diba malapad siya dati kaso dumaan ang panahon naging congested ang EDSA at kinailangan itayo ang MRT3... so sa tingin ko kailangan magkaron ng railway sa commonwealth ngayon para mahati yung mga passengers.. at malamang magiging congested pa lalo kasi meron ng direct access yung mga taga bulacan to metro manila.. so maganda na dalawang line magkaron sa commonwealth.. madami na rin ang tao ngayon diyan...

hecky12

September 4th, 2008, 06:55 PM

uu nga, hehheeh...
baka ilipat nalang yung capitol ng bulacan sa SJDM, hehhe...

hehehe... pagnilipat pa sa SJDM ang kapitolyo e di lahat ng tao nakaconcentrate na sa SJDM.. kawawa namana ng ibang probinsya ng bulacan..

evilgenius15

September 4th, 2008, 07:02 PM

edsa then... is commonwealth now... gets?! dati yung edsa parang katulad ng commonweealth ngayon diba malapad siya dati kaso dumaan ang panahon naging congested ang EDSA at kinailangan itayo ang MRT3... so sa tingin ko kailangan magkaron ng railway sa commonwealth ngayon para mahati yung mga passengers.. at malamang magiging congested pa lalo kasi meron ng direct access yung mga taga bulacan to metro manila.. so maganda na dalawang line magkaron sa commonwealth.. madami na rin ang tao ngayon diyan...

well... at least, yes...
kaya sulitin na ang magandang sky view
bago itayo ang mga rail transits, hehehe...
[offtopic]curious lang ako sa biglang pagliit ng commonwealth pagdating ng
fairview... sa tingin ko yung pababa sa litex, doon magiging start ng
northeast luzon expressway, yung la mesa parkway ata un?

evilgenius15

September 4th, 2008, 07:03 PM

hehehe... pagnilipat pa sa SJDM ang kapitolyo e di lahat ng tao nakaconcentrate na sa SJDM.. kawawa namana ng ibang probinsya ng bulacan..

sa bagay, hehehe...

hecky12

September 4th, 2008, 07:11 PM

well... at least, yes...
kaya sulitin na ang magandang sky view
bago itayo ang mga rail transits, hehehe...
[offtopic]curious lang ako sa biglang pagliit ng commonwealth pagdating ng
fairview... sa tingin ko yung pababa sa litex, doon magiging start ng
northeast luzon expressway, yung la mesa parkway ata un?

im not sure kung tama yung lugar na naiisip ko sa lugar na sinasabi mo.. yun ba yung may parang Welcome Fairview? hindi kasi ako parating nakakarating dun.. pag punta me sa sister ko fx lage ako e diko nakikita masyado yung dinadaanan.. pero oo nga parang bottle neck yung banda na diyan...

hiiamdib

September 5th, 2008, 01:53 AM

^^ OMG NYC Subway stations look terrible. :eek:

yea. Pero nung nagpunta kmi sa station sa may time square, merong live band!!! Ayaw nga lang tumugtog nung nag stop kmi para makinig :(

Eriq

September 5th, 2008, 02:35 AM

^^ Marami talagang buskers sa subway. Mahigpit pa nga daw ang audition doon...

pi_malejana

September 5th, 2008, 02:53 AM

^^ OMG NYC Subway stations look terrible. :eek:

they're not that bad naman.. it depends on the station kasi kaya yung iba pangit because sa tear and wear na rin.. tsaka during the summertime maganda sumakay jan kasi malamig dun...:)

renell

September 5th, 2008, 04:47 AM

australia?

Sydney has a terrible rail system. Technically it's not even LRT/MRT style, it's more like suburban rail.

I don't think it has to be based on simply one model. At the end of the day MM's LRT/MRT has to accomodate to local conditions, financial restraints and local corruption :lol:

hiiamdib

September 5th, 2008, 05:48 AM

^^ Marami talagang buskers sa subway. Mahigpit pa nga daw ang audition doon...

nax... mahigpit and audition. Subway Idol :lol:

habagatcentral1

September 5th, 2008, 06:26 PM

Ang mag-rereklamo, may isa pa kayong option: Take a bus at EDSA. :D

9IOssvnsaY4
Comment naman kayo, hehe!! :D

habagatcentral1

September 5th, 2008, 06:32 PM

@ Taft Avenue Station
http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/4/photos/174/600x600/48/MRT03.jpg?et=MoRVcmHwFNPa3XwuakZhSA&nmid=97827103

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/6/photos/174/600x600/49/MRT04.jpg?et=MPx9QK6aDCRB7z%2Cjbgg14w&nmid=97827103
Waiting

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/4/photos/174/600x600/55/MRT10.jpg?et=wtMt108jl4%2BetofMdemvxA&nmid=97827103
Ang hirap makalabas, lalo na't atat na atat ng pumasok mga tao.

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/4/photos/174/600x600/60/MRT15.jpg?et=AqF06JevN20AQr%2BGl%2Bm0Gg&nmid=97827103
May nag-girian dito. May nagkasakitan. May nasaktan dahil yung mga tao sa Ayala Station, pilit pa ring gustong sumakay kahit alam nilang wala nang bakante.

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/5/photos/174/600x600/65/MRT20.jpg?et=BE%2Be9DlZqgBslH3rYAEy%2CQ&nmid=97827103]
Kisame na ang hawak ko!

And guess what, more or less about 60-75% (mt rough estimate) of the passengers unloaded at Cubao Station.

habagatcentral1

September 5th, 2008, 06:34 PM

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/4/photos/174/600x600/66/MRT21.jpg?et=2r%2CLHp9Gwpj6aHVUOkxQvQ&nmid=97827103
Left out in the cold

jefflacs

September 5th, 2008, 07:08 PM

^^ dapat siguro magkaroon na din ng express train ang MRT-3 if ever yung tipong hihinto siya sa mga lugar na in demand talaga. Kaya nga lang prone sa error kasi madaming magaakala na hihinto sa station na dapat sila ay bumaba

boroyski

September 5th, 2008, 07:44 PM

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/4/photos/174/600x600/66/MRT21.jpg?et=2r%2CLHp9Gwpj6aHVUOkxQvQ&nmid=97827103
Left out in the cold

Syang talaga, wala malasakit yung mga station managers o wala pondo?

manila_eye

September 6th, 2008, 12:18 AM

Arciga_01

September 6th, 2008, 01:13 AM

Its possible IF Manila doesn't flood real bad.

habagatcentral1

September 6th, 2008, 02:28 AM

^^ And lot'sa money too.

habagatcentral1

September 6th, 2008, 04:24 AM

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3117/2832140526_db9302894d.jpg?v=0
LRT Purple Line

RonnieR

September 6th, 2008, 04:52 AM

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/4/photos/174/600x600/66/MRT21.jpg?et=2r%2CLHp9Gwpj6aHVUOkxQvQ&nmid=97827103
Left out in the cold

Nobody is around? How come they still paste the fare matrix at the teller counter? Ugly sight. The station managers need to be re-oriented or be shown with stations from other countries para magising sila

Askal82

September 6th, 2008, 05:04 AM

^^We will get there, trust me! :lol:

Guys, MTA New York has a Day Pass where you can ride all you can for one (1) day right? Could be applied in the LRT/MRT as well.

How about the other choices for the poll? Any hints?

Well, you can have unlimited pass for a day, week, every two weeks to about a month. You only pay fix amount based on how often you use the system and the number of rides is unlimited.

Askal82

September 6th, 2008, 05:14 AM

You also have to consider that the NY Subway was first opened in 1904. Most of these lines are very old and maintaining the stations while keeping it running can be a logistical nightmare in this city.

The subway may not look much but it serves this city well (most of the time).

Yeah, but the London Underground came out out much much earlier like around late 1800's and their stations are not that antiseptic but its decent than NYC by miles.

habagatcentral1

September 6th, 2008, 05:49 AM

Well, you can have unlimited pass for a day, week, every two weeks to about a month. You only pay fix amount based on how often you use the system and the number of rides is unlimited.

Yup. LRT-MRT offers Unlimited Access Pass for PhP250.00 per week.

tigidig14

September 6th, 2008, 07:09 AM

Yup. LRT-MRT offers Unlimited Access Pass for PhP250.00 per week.

i learnt this last week that NYC is $25 for the a week pass unlimited

Lucentino

September 6th, 2008, 10:04 AM

Yup. LRT-MRT offers Unlimited Access Pass for PhP250.00 per week.

O I C! Nice to know they offer such.

I guess Cubao station could be considered the busiest in terms of ridership. This is a crossroad for so many other destinations.

richard24

September 6th, 2008, 03:48 PM

ininterview ako kanina sa LRT santolan stn. di ko alam kung anong channel., baka di sha news. (maganda nag interview sakin eh) :lol:

anyways, it was about yung bagong campaign ng LRTA tungkol sa poems and phil literature. :)

jefflacs

September 6th, 2008, 03:54 PM

^^ Which reminds me of the other similar campaign about the spanish language

bartstrife99

September 7th, 2008, 01:41 PM

kratos1211

September 7th, 2008, 05:43 PM

:ohno:

Gov’t buyout of MRT 3 faces delay

By Doris Dumlao
Philippine Daily Inquirer

THE GOVERNMENT’S BUYOUT of Metro Railway Transit 3 may have to wait until early next year due to some kinks to be ironed out on the use of the state-owned National Development Co. as the takeover vehicle.

“There are concerns on booking (the transaction) through NDC,” Finance Secretary Margarito Teves told reporters.

“NDC is supposed to be the conduit. The general principle here is a refinancing exercise. And then the entity that will eventually own the shares for government will be through an entity like NDC,” he said.

Based on earlier plans, the first phase of the takeover will be implemented by buying out the shares of the private sector consortium owning 60 percent of MRT Corp. The next phase will be to settle obligations to the holders of preferred shares equivalent to about 40 percent of the company.

Being the government’s investment arm, the plan was for NDC to even issue bonds abroad to raise as much as $1 billion to buy out MRT 3.

“NDC was looking at it on a stand-alone basis. So if you look at it on a stand-alone, it might encounter some difficulties because NDC might think they’re incurring losses,” Teves said.

“But taken on the whole, the project is supposed to be viable in that there will be savings for the government. So issues like this, we still have to work out,” he said.

He added that there were also some issues to be resolved related to NDC and the Department of Transportation and Communication, saying the takeover might not happen until early next year.

The government has agreed to buy out the MRT 3 -- the 17-kilometer elevated railway plying through Metro Manila’s Edsa -- in order to save on future costs now that its improved fiscal position gives it flexibility to borrow cheaper money. Otherwise, the government would have to pay 15 percent in annual interest rates to be able to remit equity payments to the consortium operating the MRT 3 until the build-lease-transfer contract lapses in 2025.

richard24

September 7th, 2008, 06:07 PM

anu po sinagot nyo baka ma pa broadcast keyo! malay niyo ma discover keyo! :nuts:

sabi ko the celebrities reading philippine poetry is a bit of a relief kasi nga naman, lahat ng dumadaan sa LRT stressed lahat. :)
parang pang beauty queen :lol: :nuts: sabi nga ng friend ko beckyng becky daw.

jvl

September 7th, 2008, 08:17 PM

^ Good answer! Is it possible to know who and what the interview was for?

If government buys out the MRT, I expect the service to turn to worse. Cant they do something like a consession such as the set up with NLEX/SLEX and PNCC?

jefflacs

September 8th, 2008, 03:45 AM

^^ But if it will be passed to LRTA, I expect it to be much better

evilgenius15

September 8th, 2008, 07:03 AM

nagsisimula na ang paghuhukay para sa pagpapatayo ng poste ng LRT1
North Expansion sa kahabaan ng EDSA (yung mga pink fences na
nakaparisukat)...

hirolionheart

September 8th, 2008, 07:23 AM

nagsisimula na ang paghuhukay para sa pagpapatayo ng poste ng LRT1
North Expansion sa kahabaan ng EDSA (yung mga pink fences na
nakaparisukat)...

Good yan, para mapagdugtong-dugtong na ang MRT-LRT Lines.
Tapos, dapat simulan na rin ang MRT-7, hehehe^_^

evilgenius15

September 8th, 2008, 07:45 AM

Good yan, para mapagdugtong-dugtong na ang MRT-LRT Lines.
Tapos, dapat simulan na rin ang MRT-7, hehehe^_^

yung mrt7 talaga, kelangan na nilang simulan yun...

hirolionheart

September 8th, 2008, 08:05 AM

yung mrt7 talaga, kelangan na nilang simulan yun...

Yep, para naman mabawasan sa sobrang lapad ang Commonwealth Avenue, hehehe^_^

Pero seryoso, marami talagang pasahero ang matutulungan nun, yung mga galing at papuntang Quezon City, Caloocan City, San Jose del Monte City, San Mateo at Rodriguez. Ang mga nabanggit na lugar ay patuloy sa paglobo ang populasyon. Kilos-kilos na, hehehe^_^

queetz@home

September 9th, 2008, 12:21 AM

nagsisimula na ang paghuhukay para sa pagpapatayo ng poste ng LRT1
North Expansion sa kahabaan ng EDSA (yung mga pink fences na
nakaparisukat)...

Yay! Any pictures to show this? Its for documentation purposes I suppose and its nice to look back at history a few years from now... ;)

evilgenius15

September 9th, 2008, 03:11 AM

Yay! Any pictures to show this? Its for documentation purposes I suppose and its nice to look back at history a few years from now... ;)

try ko this week...
sinubukan ko kasi dati... nabblur sa sobrang bilis ng jeep, hehehe...

hirolionheart

September 9th, 2008, 11:00 AM

try ko this week...
sinubukan ko kasi dati... nabblur sa sobrang bilis ng jeep, hehehe...

Dapat ma-trapik 'pag kukunan mo na ng pic, hehehe^_^
Anyway, buti naman at nagpaparamdam na sila sa konstruksyon^_^

sushi___

September 10th, 2008, 08:06 AM

nagsisimula na ang paghuhukay para sa pagpapatayo ng poste ng LRT1
North Expansion sa kahabaan ng EDSA (yung mga pink fences na
nakaparisukat)...

san sakto at san malapit sa EDSA? dulo ba ng North Ave Station o dulo
ng Monumento station? Para makunan pag may oras... laging ulan eh 3 days na...

evilgenius15

September 10th, 2008, 09:29 AM

^^^ between sm north po ata and muñoz... or lagpas ng onti... hehehe...

hirolionheart

September 10th, 2008, 02:45 PM

I'm looking forward to your pictures to be taken about the extension of LRT-1, hehehe^_^

olineil

September 10th, 2008, 03:34 PM

Is it possible for MM to build subway system? Cebu has but not vast like NY, Tokyo or London… still these cities continue to build more. I personally think that subway system will be the most efficient mode of transportation for MM and Metro Cebu as these two cities keeps on expanding and growing every minute.

Please post something if there is a development being cooked…

Since when po nagkaron ng Subway ang Cebu? Are you referring to the tunnel under construction at the SRP? Di po subway yun but Road Tunnel.

Subway is just way to impractical for our economic situation right now. Even our MRT systems in Manila is loosing money plus its heavily subsidized by the government, which means the government is loosing a lot to operate all this systems. Meaning impractical din sya. Since the advent of BRT this has become the most viable and most cost effective transport system for developing countries like the Philippines. Combine all the expenses the government poured to the MRT system + its operation cost, it could have easily built an integrated BRT system for the whole Metro Manila. Imagine that!

(That's according to this articles which I posted on the BRT Thread)
Here's an excerpt from this PDF document:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/olineil/BRTexcerpt.jpg

hirolionheart

September 10th, 2008, 04:01 PM

Wolf1968 ^_^

September 10th, 2008, 05:29 PM

WE WANT PICS!!!! WE WANT PICS!!! WE WANT PICS!!!

habagatcentral1

September 10th, 2008, 05:40 PM

WE WANT PICS!!!! WE WANT PICS!!! WE WANT PICS!!!
Anong pix? Yung sa construction? :D

Pero habang wala...eto muna.

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/6/photos/174/600x600/63/MRT18.jpg?et=grp9CwRbvIhy286z4tCBLQ&nmid=97827103
ZZzzzzzzZZZZzzzZZZ.....:D

jvl

September 10th, 2008, 09:04 PM

^^Careful snoozing. There could be lots of "predators" around waiting on their "prey"!!! Notice their backpacks placed upfront.

queetz@home

September 11th, 2008, 12:31 AM

Since when po nagkaron ng Subway ang Cebu? Are you referring to the tunnel under construction at the SRP? Di po subway yun but Road Tunnel.

Subway is just way to impractical for our economic situation right now. Even our MRT systems in Manila is loosing money plus its heavily subsidized by the government, which means the government is loosing a lot to operate all this systems. Meaning impractical din sya. Since the advent of BRT this has become the most viable and most cost effective transport system for developing countries like the Philippines. Combine all the expenses the government poured to the MRT system + its operation cost, it could have easily built an integrated BRT system for the whole Metro Manila. Imagine that!

(That's according to this articles which I posted on the BRT Thread)

Oh boy....we've had this Bus vs Rail discussion in these threads before and it really saddens me that BRT proponents, who have been trying to stop rail expansions in North America and Europe, are also doing so in third world over populated metropolitan regions like Metro Manila where rail is the only solution.

Prior to the MRT3 being placed in EDSA, we can have an infinite number of bus operators plying its dedicated bus lanes. Note that this was a time when the tallest office building in Manila was the Pacific Star, BGC was just a military base, Ortigas was mostly "talahib", and most of the population of Metro Manila, which was around half of it was today, don't have decent jobs in these yet to be built employment centres. Given the laize faire nature of the privatized bus system, bus drivers and companies COMPETE to carry as much passengers as they can at the fastest possible way they can bring them. I remember EDSA even having buses made from semi-trailers just to carry more people. Have they solved the transportation woes that is plaguing the metropolis back then? Four hours to get from the talahib area to a CBD whose building is no taller than the average Vancouver condo...imagine that....

The problems that the MRT and LRT lines that is being faced in Metro Manila is capacity and that, my friend, is why the BRT argument will fail. Buses simply do not have the capacity that rail can offer. You can have an infinite number of funds to buy all the buses in the world vs all the trains in the world but once that is said and done, rail will win. The government agencies in Metro Manila recognize this, the media recognizes this, and the riding public recognizes this. That is why there is a push to buy out the MRT 3 so IT CAN EXPAND ITS CAPACITY TO ADD MORE TRAINS to carry MORE PEOPLE, that is why there is a push to extend the LRT1 so it can EXPAND ITS REACH to offer HIGH CAPACITY mass transit systems to more people in the region. This is not only being done in Metro Manila but in major cities around the world where traffic has grinded to a halt and the movement of goods and people need to be done far more efficiently for the sake of economic sustainability.

BRT proponents only have one source of ammunition to advance their cause...that buses and the implementation of BRT systems is cheaper. They use things like "this rail line is being subsidized by x number of dollars, pesos, rubbles, yen or whatever". Well, guess what? We pay our taxes to the government to provide decent services to the public, among them a workable public transportation system. And since rail is the only way that can cope up with the amount of volume, it is imperative that type of service is provided by government, even if they have to subsidize them. Its tax money well spent if it means efficient movement of people in our major thoroughfares. And with our tax dollars investing in rail systems that truly work, the benefits to the economy and our standard of living outweighes whatever supposedly cost savings by having a bus based rapid transit system that simply cannot cope with our excessive transportation requirements.

manila_eye

September 11th, 2008, 12:34 AM

@olineil: oops... i thought cebu is actually building a subway not just a tunnel. i must've mixed up some past posts:ohno:

greenshields

September 11th, 2008, 02:37 AM

Oh boy....we've had this Bus vs Rail discussion in these threads before and it really saddens me that BRT proponents, who have been trying to stop rail expansions in North America and Europe, are also doing so in third world over populated metropolitan regions like Metro Manila where rail is the only solution....

Great argument for rail. Indeed MM has been wanting for an efficient and extensive rail-based system given the demand along the major corridors. However, despite all the efforts to build such rail systems, there are, sadly, no parallel efforts to rationalize road-based public transport.

Current efforts for rail including some arguments in fora such as this have always taken the approach that if you build rail then all is solved. MM never had something like a BRT and many of our officials including those in key positions believe we already have one in the MMDA's bus dispatching - RFID equipped scheme.

Rail simply is expensive and though its expansion is terribly necessary, the implementation is not as we would want it and taxpayers end up on the wrong end of a bad deal. Rail and BRT should complement each other as they are appropriate for certain levels of demand. And BRT has met with much success because it has been able to match rail systems capacities aside from being much less expensive.

There are lots of lessons to be learned from the experiences of other cities, other countries. Hopefully, we learn from those experiences.

igi_master

September 11th, 2008, 03:32 AM

habagatcentral1

September 11th, 2008, 03:36 AM

^^ I think its 400,000-600,000 yata per day ang tinatransport ng MRT alone. I remember Lastimosa saying that they are earning approximately 5 million pesos a day. Just have to think a metropolis of 12 million people, 1,000 people simply cannot describe the sardine can that everyone has to endure at the MRT everyday.

evilgenius15

September 11th, 2008, 04:26 AM

bakit ksi ang liit ng MRT3, eh along EDSA pa naman ung location niya...
siyempre expected na ng admin ng MRTA na marami sasakay sa kanila,
pero mallit lang ginawa nila...
look at LRT 2... malaki ginawa nilang space for passengers kahit santolan-recto lang yung
route niya... unlike sa mrt3 na dadaan talaga sa mga busiest places in metro manila...
...

RonnieR

September 11th, 2008, 05:16 AM

habagatcentral1

September 11th, 2008, 05:19 AM

The question is, with their revenue of about 5 Million Pesos a day (that's minimum/conservative estimate), how much is the MOOE (Maintenance and Operation Expenses) allotted per day to the LRT & MRT?

RonnieR

September 11th, 2008, 05:20 AM

Para naman yata hindi makatotohanan

600,000 total revenue per month?

600,000/15 - max fare = 40,000 total passenger per mo
= 40,000 passenger per month/30 days
= 1333 passenger per day

tama ba yung computation ko.?

Yes, you're right, their computation is erroneous.

RonnieR

September 11th, 2008, 05:23 AM

RonnieR

September 11th, 2008, 05:26 AM

@olineil: oops... i thought cebu is actually building a subway not just a tunnel. i must've mixed up some past posts:ohno:

People mistook it as a subway because the signage says so but it is a tunnel. I think it is the longest tunnel in the Philippines once completed. I'm not sure of the length. It traverses major intersections of the city.

Deus Ex

September 11th, 2008, 07:40 AM

^^
I agree... Hindi applicable ang subway system sa Pilipinas lalo na sa Metro Manila. Masyado ng masikip ang Metro Manila para sa paglalagay ng subway system, siguradong maraming magagambala habang ginagawa ito.
Pangalawa, tama nga na malaking pera ang kailangang pakawalan para dito... Isa pa, ang Pilipinas ay nasa Pacific Ring of Fire, maraming mga bulkan at fault systems. Kaya madalas ang lindol na kalaban natin lalo pa 'pag nasa ilalim na tayo ng lupa:ohno:

Response:I see. Well a subway system can be done. All we need is money. Pero I think we don't have enough money or brains to build such a complex system, so I think your correct with that one:)

People mistook it as a subway because the signage says so but it is a tunnel. I think it is the longest tunnel in the Philippines once completed. I'm not sure of the length. It traverses major intersections of the city.

Response:That's quite interesting if you ask me. They could have called it an 'underpass' or such. lol. Anyway I think there are numerous tunnels along EDSA, am I not mistaken? The truth is, the first time I went through EDSA, I was so impressed that I felt very proud of my country. It feels good you know. Its a positive thing.:)

Lucentino

September 11th, 2008, 08:15 AM

Response:I see. Well a subway system can be done. All we need is money. Pero I think we don't have enough money or brains to build such a complex system, so I think your correct with that one:)

Add to that, MMDA and those pumping stations already have their hands full in terms of containing flooding in the Metro.

Subways can be brillant for RP, specially if they will make it wide enough to accommodate the informal settlers on the sides. This way, the government can hide them from plain view. :lol:

Seriously, I guess it is more complicated (time, planning, funds, maintenance) to create a subway than an elevated rail system. Roughly, a kilometer of subway might be equivalent to two kilometers of an elevated one. If we want more rail lines, at this point, elevated could be the way to go. :)

RonnieR

September 11th, 2008, 08:22 AM

Response:I see. Well a subway system can be done. All we need is money. Pero I think we don't have enough money or brains to build such a complex system, so I think your correct with that one:)

Response:That's quite interesting if you ask me. They could have called it an 'underpass' or such. lol. Anyway I think there are numerous tunnels along EDSA, am I not mistaken? The truth is, the first time I went through EDSA, I was so impressed that I felt very proud of my country. It feels good you know. Its a positive thing.:)

Length: EDSA tunnel: 300 meters
Cebu tunnel: 1.2 kilometers

Deus Ex

September 11th, 2008, 08:25 AM

Add to that, MMDA and those pumping stations already have their hands full in terms of containing flooding in the Metro.

Subways can be brillant for RP, specially if they will make it wide enough to accommodate the informal settlers on the sides. This way, the government can hide them from plain view. :lol:

Seriously, I guess it is more complicated (time, planning, funds, maintenance) to create a subway than an elevated rail system. Roughly, a kilometer of subway might be equivalent to two kilometers of an elevated one. If we want more rail lines, at this point, elevated could be the way to go. :)

A very good point you have there. It really seems impossible atm, but hopefully just hopefully, it can be done in the near future. And what you said about complicated (time, planning, funds, maintenance) ; it really is true that our country is lagging behind countries such as Thailand. Oh well, don't worry about that, because we are diffrent, we are unique, and we are powerful in being unique:lol:seriously. Anyways, just like you said, elevated lines are the way to go and I think that elevated lines are the best choice we have right now.:)