May ginagawang elevated na pedestrian overpass sa kanto mismo ng taft and EDSA ang MMDA so kahit papaano malelessen yung mga taong dumadaan sa taft ave. station hehe

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa18/cq40/LolDog.jpg

^bomb dog? i think not. pero parang eh

May isang malaking crane na sa Munoz... yung ginagamit sa paghuhukay talaga...

Record inflation jacks up cost of proposed LRT extension
By Darwin G. Amojelar, Reporter
http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2008/oct/22/yehey/business/20081022bus1.html

THE rising prices of construction materials more than doubled the cost of the proposed extension of the country’s first light rail transit (LRT 1), according to an official of the Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA).

Danilo Tolentino, LRTA project manager told The Manila Times that the Manila LRT 1 South Extension Project cost set originally at $683 million surged 149 percent to $1.7 billion.

The World Bank presented the revised feasibility study to the LRTA board on August 1. That month inflation surged to a 17-year high of 12.5 percent.

The Department of Trade and Industry recently endorsed the removal of tariffs on imported cement to help bring down construction costs in the country, which has been enjoying its biggest property boom since the 1997 Asian financial crisis.

At present, LRTA is evaluating the updated feasibility study of the project, Tolentino said.

The official said rising construction material costs and the construction of the LRT 1 North Extension Project forced the Washington-based lender to update the project.

Besides the rising prices of construction materials, Tolentino said the World Bank increased the required number of light rail vehicle (LRV) for the project.

He said the ridership projection is also up for revision because of the construction of the LRT 1 North Extension Project.

“The construction of the project is expected to start in the first quarter of next year,” he said.

The Manila LRT 1 South Extension is a priority project of the Arroyo administration and will run southward to the cities of Parañaque and Las Piñas and the neighboring municipalities of Bacoor, Imus and Dasmariñas in Cavite.

The bidding for the project has been delayed because the Department of Budget and Management has yet to issue the multi-year obligation authority for the government’s loan of $260 million.

The multi-year obligation authority is an assurance that the funding is included in the annual General Appropriation Act.

Investors that earlier submitted intentions to join the bidding were China BFECO Group, China National Technical & E Corp., China Overseas Northwest Construction Engineering Co. Ltd., PJI Corp. of Japan, International Business Development of Japan, AMA Group Holdings Corp. and Achivesta, a consortium of Japan-Filipino investors.

Other companies that also expressed interest were Isolux Corban of Spain, Rites Ltd. of India, Infrastructure Leasing and Network Services Ltd. of India, DM Consunji Inc., Sumitomo Corp., China State Construction Engineering Corp., China Railway South Group Co. Ltd. and Overseas Engineering Co. of China.

The winning bidder will fund the design, construction, installation and integration of the extension with the existing lines. It would also be in charge of the integrated operation and maintenance of the entire line and provision of enhancement works on the integrated system.

The LRT 1 South Extension Project will have a 40-year concession period inclusive of four years of construction.

The project will include eight new passenger stations, with provision for two additional future stations. It is expected to serve 800,000 passengers a day and cut travel time from Bacoor, Cavite, to Monumento, Caloocan City, to less than an hour.

^^ Kasi naman babagal-bagal...the LRT is badly needed by the Cavitenos already.

sana manalo sa bidding ang spain, japan or korea... if china wins then definitely marami na namang politiko ang makikinabang.

so the cost doubled because of inflation?

so malamang iproprobe ulit ito ng Senado (like Northrail)... eh inflation na nga ang reason at WB na ang nagbigay ng new projection... pero medyo sobrang laki naman ata tinaas at nadoble, dapat kasi noon pa sinimulan para di naapektuhan masyado ng inflation. the problem with LRTA and the government is too much "pipelining" of projects, and maybe red tape... after one is finished, the next... why can't two or even three concurrent projects (planned) start immediately(North and South extension), the loan facilities exist, parts of the budget exist, why not build it now?. Approval of budget (based) on the article is also delayed. the risk calculation is so lax that the double digit inflation was only factored now... we may not control the US financial crisis(that caused inflation to surge) but it is also OUR planning and passiveness that is killing us and making our projects a drag...

so i smell delay again ... what's new?

LRT NORTH and SOUTH extension in FULL operation - end of the term of the Next president 2016...

oh well... :ohno:


Pinas: better be pessimistic so that you won't be disappointed that much... loco :nuts:

Mandaluyong wins MRT property dispute
By Non Alquitran And Rainier Allan Ronda
Thursday, October 23, 2008
http://philstar.com/index.php?Metro&p=49&type=2&sec=26

A Mandaluyong court has awarded to the Mandaluyong city government the elevated tracks and stations of the Metro Rail Transit along EDSA within the city’s boundaries after the MRT failed to pay P2 billion in real property taxes.

Judge Carlos Valenzuela of Mandaluyong Regional Trial Court Branch 213 ordered yesterday Sheriff Gerardo Umali to eject Metro Rail Transit Corp. (MRTC) and place the Mandaluyong city government in possession of “real properties forming part of the EDSA Metro Rail Transit” within the city’s jurisdiction.

“We therefore, commend you to place petitioner Mandaluyong city government in possession of the subject real properties forming part of the EDSA Metro Rail Transit III System covered under tax declaration No. D-013-10638 in the name of Mandaluyong City and eject the Metro Real Transit Corp. and all persons or entities claiming rights under it who are physically occupying the same,” read the court’s order.

Last July 30, the court ruled in favor of Mandaluyong’s petition for a writ of possession and awarded the stretch of railroad tracks and stations to the city government.

“Wherefore, foregoing premises considered, the instant petition for the issuance of a writ of possession is hereby granted,” read the court’s order.

“In view thereof, let a writ of possession be issued immediately in favor of the petitioner, the Mandaluyong city government, to place the latter in possession of the subject real properties covered under tax declaration No. D-013-10836 in the name of Mandaluyong City.”

Mandaluyong City Mayor Benjamin “Benhur” Abalos said the city government would neither take over nor interfere with MRT operations.

“(We shall only) collect real property taxes due the city government since 1982 and covered by tax declaration No. D-013-10636,” he said.

Abalos said the city assessor declared the properties in the name of Metro Rail Transit Corp. for tax purposes on June 24, 2001 and assessed their liability for real property taxes.

However, despite several notices, the MRTC failed to pay real property taxes amounting to P1,306,617,522.96, he added.

As a result, city treasurer Crispina Espedido issued a notice of delinquency against the MRTC and the corresponding warrant of levy on Oct. 6, 2005, he said.

Abalos said Mandaluyong is the first city in Metro Manila to collect taxes from the MRT based on the provisions of the Local Government Code.

“This is not a victory of Mandaluyong City alone, but by all local government units,” he said.

On the other hand, MRTC general manager Robert Lastimoso said they will leave it to the Office of the Solicitor General to contest the Mandaluyong court’s decision.

Lastimoso said he was surprised by the court decision since the Department of Transportation and Communications has won in similar tax suits against the city governments of Quezon City and Makati.

“I dont know what happened,” he said. “If there’s a writ of possession, I’m sure the OSG will file a motion to quash or something. My job is just to operate the rail line.”

Lastimoso said the DOTC was not liable to pay the property taxes to Mandaluyong based on a Supreme Court ruling on a similar tax assessment and collection which the Light Rail Transit Authority had faced.

The SC had declared that a government agency operating a public transportation facility was not liable for real property taxes, he added.

^^^ inconsistent application of justice, well, this won't prosper as there was already a SC ruling that local gov't can't impose tax. Just a matter of filing for motions.

"The SC had declared that a government agency operating a public transportation facility was not liable for real property taxes"

Record inflation jacks up cost of proposed LRT extension
By Darwin G. Amojelar, Reporter
http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2008/oct/22/yehey/business/20081022bus1.html

THE rising prices of construction materials more than doubled the cost of the proposed extension of the country’s first light rail transit (LRT 1), according to an official of the Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA).

Danilo Tolentino, LRTA project manager told The Manila Times that the Manila LRT 1 South Extension Project cost set originally at $683 million surged 149 percent to $1.7 billion.

The World Bank presented the revised feasibility study to the LRTA board on August 1. That month inflation surged to a 17-year high of 12.5 percent.

The Department of Trade and Industry recently endorsed the removal of tariffs on imported cement to help bring down construction costs in the country, which has been enjoying its biggest property boom since the 1997 Asian financial crisis.

At present, LRTA is evaluating the updated feasibility study of the project, Tolentino said.

The official said rising construction material costs and the construction of the LRT 1 North Extension Project forced the Washington-based lender to update the project.

Besides the rising prices of construction materials, Tolentino said the World Bank increased the required number of light rail vehicle (LRV) for the project.

He said the ridership projection is also up for revision because of the construction of the LRT 1 North Extension Project.

“The construction of the project is expected to start in the first quarter of next year,” he said.

The Manila LRT 1 South Extension is a priority project of the Arroyo administration and will run southward to the cities of Parañaque and Las Piñas and the neighboring municipalities of Bacoor, Imus and Dasmariñas in Cavite.

The bidding for the project has been delayed because the Department of Budget and Management has yet to issue the multi-year obligation authority for the government’s loan of $260 million.

The multi-year obligation authority is an assurance that the funding is included in the annual General Appropriation Act.

Investors that earlier submitted intentions to join the bidding were China BFECO Group, China National Technical & E Corp., China Overseas Northwest Construction Engineering Co. Ltd., PJI Corp. of Japan, International Business Development of Japan, AMA Group Holdings Corp. and Achivesta, a consortium of Japan-Filipino investors.

Other companies that also expressed interest were Isolux Corban of Spain, Rites Ltd. of India, Infrastructure Leasing and Network Services Ltd. of India, DM Consunji Inc., Sumitomo Corp., China State Construction Engineering Corp., China Railway South Group Co. Ltd. and Overseas Engineering Co. of China.

The winning bidder will fund the design, construction, installation and integration of the extension with the existing lines. It would also be in charge of the integrated operation and maintenance of the entire line and provision of enhancement works on the integrated system.

The LRT 1 South Extension Project will have a 40-year concession period inclusive of four years of construction.

The project will include eight new passenger stations, with provision for two additional future stations. It is expected to serve 800,000 passengers a day and cut travel time from Bacoor, Cavite, to Monumento, Caloocan City, to less than an hour.

so hndi lrta ang mamahala pag naitayo na?? kasi sbi ung Bidder ung incharge sa operation and maintenance..mejo magulo ata.

mga politiko natin kasi magaling lang sa pagpplano and salita kulang sa action and determination..tsk tsk, kaya tayo napagiiwanan.buti pa si ramos 2 tren naambag..

WEDNESDAY, 22 OCTOBER 2008 00:32
FILIPINO businessmen will present to President Arroyo today their new “wish list” covering 16 areas of concern.

These proposed initiatives are contained in the 34th Philippine Business Conference (PBC) Resolution, which is the product of the year-round consultations the Philippine Chamber of Commerce and Industry (PCCI) conducted among its affiliates and local chambers throughout the country.

The resolution, to be handed by the PCCI to President Arroyo as the highlight of the three-day PBC at the Manila Hotel, details Filipino business’ agenda in the areas of agriculture and food security, energy, education, infrastructure, corporate social responsibility, environment, finance and taxation, good governance, information and communications technology, intellectual property, legislation, mining, national patrimony, population, small and medium enterprises development and tourism.

In transportation


For rail, the PCCI seeks the development of a Central Terminal for the four light and metro rail projects on Edsa corner North and West Avenues. The Central Terminal will be connected to the existing MRT 3 and LRT 1 North Extension, approved MRT 7, and the future development of MRT 9.
The government, the group added, should also support the implementation of priority infrastructure through solicited bids under the BOT Law, with less emphasis given to unsolicited and joint venture modes in order to promote greater transparency and greater private sector participation.

NONIE REYES


MRT 9? Where is this?

huh MRT9? hala... baka idadaan nila sa west avenue tapos quezon avenue papuntang quiapo?
wala nang other way eh...
naadik na sila...
kung matutuloy ung central terminal station...
demolish na North Ave Station ng MRT3, LRT1, at LRT7???

LRT to lend trains to ease MRT's overloading dilemma (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/128949/LRT-to-lend-trains-to-ease-MRTs-overloading-dilemma)
10/23/2008 | 05:38 PM

MANILA, Philippines - The Light Rail Transit (LRT) will lease some of its coaches to Metro Rail Transit (MRT), which has been overloaded in the past few months as commuters opt to take trains amid rising fares and fuel costs.

LRT Administrator Mel Robles said the LRT Line 1 system can lend from 40 to 60 cars without compromising its service to the public taking the train between Monumento in Caloocan City to Baclaran in Pasay City. It fills up only 50 percent of the one-million passenger capacity of its 139 cars.

"We hope that we can do it as soon as possible. This was prompted by an instruction from Secretary (Leandro) Mendoza," Robles said in a phone interview.

The MRT, which runs from North Avenue in Quezon City to Taft Avenue in Pasay City, is designed to carry 350,000 passengers daily but it now transports as much as 470,000 passengers a day.

MRT General Manager Roberto B Lastimoso earlier warned of a system failure if no trains are added to the facility by 2010. It takes at least three years for new trains to arrive since these will be custom-made abroad to fit the local train system.

Mendoza said MRT's expansion is stalled due to the delay in the government's plan to purchase the system from MRT Corp., a private consortium led by the Sobrepeñas.

Mendoza said, however, that the Department of Transportation and Communication is already facilitating the lease of LRT trains to the overloaded MRT system.

"We are already making arrangements. We are ready because the LRT has extra trains," Mendoza told reporters on Thursday.

Only the doors and the signal system of the LRT coaches will be modified to fit the MRT's system.

Robles said the LRT has already discussed the technical aspects of moving some of its trains to MRT but it has yet to settle commercial and operational issues such as the rental fees and the payment scheme for the coaches. GMANews.TV

About the overhead rails, it's typical with light rails and electric trains. With overcrowding an issue, which makes landing up in the tracks a potential fatal threat, an electric third rail in the tracks would be costly not just financially but also health wise.
^^I don't think so. The overhead cable are being replaced at certain interval including the train contact wheels. While the third rail stayed in placed and have not seen them replaced since I work for years in New York Transit Subways. The train contact paddles as it is called are replaced for wear and tear. The third rails has protection boards on top either made of pine lumber or fiberglass so that employees and passengers on emergency situation will be protected when stepping over the 3rd rails.

Rats on the tracks are a bit hard to eliminate because this required the coopertion of everybody to throw away their unfinished food and wrappings in the garbage cans instead on the tracks.

Yellow lines or tiles on the edge of train platform is for safety purposes like preventing people falling off to the tracks due vertigo effect or bump by person beside you & rough surfaces on the edge for visually impaired that reminds it is the edge.

Subway is the most expensive to maintain compared to LRT/MRT type of mass transit. The normal flow of water sippage and underground spring had to be drained constantly.
The steel dust produced between the rails and the train wheels. And then some . . .

LRT to lend trains to ease MRT's overloading dilemma (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/128949/LRT-to-lend-trains-to-ease-MRTs-overloading-dilemma)

Robles said the LRT has already discussed the technical aspects of moving some of its trains to MRT but it has yet to settle commercial and operational issues such as the rental fees and the payment scheme for the coaches. GMANews.TV

Be nice if they elaborated the details but if they can wait a year or so, it would be easier to just link the MRT3 and LRT1 physically so they can transfer the trains whenever they want instead of relying on cranes to move them around (which I suspect how they would do it). I'm sure the viaducts and the rail tracks can be finished much much sooner than May 2010 (even though the rest of the systems are not ready).

Ano yung MRT 9? new plan ? strange... di pa nga nasisimulan LRT south extension, at LRT 2 extension meron ulit? :lol::lol::lol:

DOTC to borrow 40 train cars from LRTA to fill shortage of MRT3
By: Lenie Lectura | Business Mirror
24 October 2008 | 9:44 AM

The transportation department is considering borrowing 40 train coaches from the Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA) to address the shortage problem of the Metro Rail Transit (MRT) line 3 along Edsa.

The department is resorting to this measure as brand-new coaches are expensive and it takes time for the delivery of such coaches when purchased.

Secretary Leandro Mendoza of the Department of Transportation and Communications (DOTC) told reporters on Thursday that the LRTA has already been informed of this plan to borrow coaches.

“On our part, we are ready. We could borrow cars from the LRTA and convert these to fit the MRT3 railway tracks. The LRT cars are slightly different from the MRT3 coaches,” said Mendoza.

He added that discussions leading to a favorable arrangement between the LRTA and the DOTC are underway.

When sought for comment, LRTA Administrator Mel Robles said his office is currently assessing the impact this might have on the operation of the two LRT lines.

“We are assessing the operational and financial impact on LRTA,” he said in a text message.

The MRT3 needs about 30 additional cars by 2010 to accommodate the growing number of passengers. At present, the line, which spans from Pasay City to Quezon City, is already operating overcapacity by more than 100,000 passengers each day.

The entire system can only handle 300,000 to 350,000 passengers daily.

MRT general manager Roberto Lastimoso had said there is an urgent need to acquire more coaches because the entire railway transit system might break down anytime. However, it would cost at least $90 million to pay for 30 additional cars.

A proposal was already submitted to the National Economic and Development Authority. “We presented two options. Buy all brand-new coaches or a combination of brand-new and secondhand units. But the first batch of coaches should be delivered before 2010 and another batch up to 2013,” he said.

A train’s brand-new car costs $2 million to $3 million each. An additional car train can transport 30,000 passenger per direction, added Lastimoso.

pwede nila i-redesign na parang Buendia station or ayala para ung tracks nasa underground tpos lulusot papunta na ng Moa.. pwede pa nga maging 2 na dagdag sa station eh (e.g. Roxas Blvd. and Moa..)

agreed!

dapat ginawang underground ung Taft station, mas makakluwag pa sa Taft EDSA intersection. Di siguro possible o kaya baka sobrang magiging mahal. I'm not an engineer so I woulndt know why they didnt put it underground. But Im thinking they could make the station alot bigger if it were underground, just need to dig more for more space as opposed to above ground where buildings are a confinement.

Ano yung MRT 9? new plan ? strange... di pa nga nasisimulan LRT south extension, at LRT 2 extension meron ulit? :lol::lol::lol:
isn't LRT south extension just a dream for the Caviteños? :colgate: :ohno:

^^ Sabi ko nga, mukhang elementary pa ako naririnig ko na yang plano na yan pero hanggang ngayon....tsk!

^^ Sabi ko nga, mukhang elementary pa ako naririnig ko na yang plano na yan pero hanggang ngayon....tsk!

actually nakakapagod na ngang mangarap na may mangyayari pa sa extension na ito eh so bale for the next N years all the following projects would be
a dream:

1. Northrail (no news)
2. Southrail (linkage with the non existent Northrail on-going, rehabilitation
on-going)
3. LRT1 - North Extension (some progress... delayed)
4. LRT1 - South Extension (LRT 6) (some news, no final plan yet, no bidder, no nothing... ALL TALK!!!-- yr 2020)
5. LRT2 - East Extension (pipeline -- maybe year 2100):gossip:
6. MRT4 - Shelved (??? yr 2050??)
7. MRT8 - East Line (proposed -- maybe year 2200):hahaha:
8. MRT7 - SM Line (hopefully it'll begin 2009 -- private corporation)
9. MRT9 - What Line? Any information on this?
10. MRT2 Expansion - Before they said new coaches (70) by 2010
now 2013? -- hey lets just say 2025 -- SAFE ANSWER

sarcastic and pessimistic projections so we may not expect more hahaha
:dance:

lately puro bad news about sa lines natin ah ... WHEN will WE FEEL
REAL PROGRESS on THESE PROJECTS... ??? :lol::lol::lol:

nagsisimula na maginstall ng rail sa Northrail...
mrt7: 2009 plus minus 1 ang alam ko (hahaha)...

Thanks for the updates sushi. Now, I lost my hope. :lol: j/k

actually nakakapagod na ngang mangarap na may mangyayari pa sa extension na ito eh so bale for the next N years all the following projects would be
a dream:

1. Northrail (no news)
2. Southrail (linkage with the non existent Northrail on-going, rehabilitation
on-going)
3. LRT1 - North Extension (some progress... delayed)
4. LRT1 - South Extension (LRT 6) (some news, no final plan yet, no bidder, no nothing... ALL TALK!!!-- yr 2020)
5. LRT2 - East Extension (pipeline -- maybe year 2100):gossip:
6. MRT4 - Shelved (??? yr 2050??)
7. MRT8 - East Line (proposed -- maybe year 2200):hahaha:
8. MRT7 - SM Line (hopefully it'll begin 2009 -- private corporation)
9. MRT9 - What Line? Any information on this?
10. MRT2 Expansion - Before they said new coaches (70) by 2010
now 2013? -- hey lets just say 2025 -- SAFE ANSWER

sarcastic and pessimistic projections so we may not expect more hahaha
:dance:

lately puro bad news about sa lines natin ah ... WHEN will WE FEEL
REAL PROGRESS on THESE PROJECTS... ??? :lol::lol::lol:

It would take an extraordinary President to have our dreams realized in our generation.

nagsisimula na maginstall ng rail sa Northrail...
mrt7: 2009 plus minus 1 ang alam ko (hahaha)...

Wala pa raw kuyang balita sa Northrail e...

1. Northrail (no news)
2. Southrail (linkage with the non existent Northrail on-going, rehabilitation
on-going)
3. LRT1 - North Extension (some progress... delayed)
4. LRT1 - South Extension (LRT 6) (some news, no final plan yet, no bidder, no nothing... ALL TALK!!!-- yr 2020)
5. LRT2 - East Extension (pipeline -- maybe year 2100):gossip:
6. MRT4 - Shelved (??? yr 2050??)
7. MRT8 - East Line (proposed -- maybe year 2200):hahaha:
8. MRT7 - SM Line (hopefully it'll begin 2009 -- private corporation)
9. MRT9 - What Line? Any information on this?
10. MRT2 Expansion - Before they said new coaches (70) by 2010
now 2013? -- hey lets just say 2025 -- SAFE ANSWER



paano nga matatawag na northrail-southrail linkage kung wala pa nga namang umaandar na northrail? hehe

SM Line, may balak ba talagang mag invest ang SM group para sa pagbuild ng rail line?
(malay natin sila na ang magsimula ng "railway revolution" dito sa Pilipinas, susunod na din yung ibang private companies. more business = more tax = more revenue, plus efficient mass transportation)

Sana Ayala will follow. It will build rail that will connect Ayala to BGC and extend perhaps upto Alabang.

paano nga matatawag na northrail-southrail linkage kung wala pa nga namang umaandar na northrail? hehe

SM Line, may balak ba talagang mag invest ang SM group para sa pagbuild ng rail line?
(malay natin sila na ang magsimula ng "railway revolution" dito sa Pilipinas, susunod na din yung ibang private companies. more business = more tax = more revenue, plus efficient mass transportation)

SM is part of the consortium that will build the line 7. just like Ayala on MRT-3 (i read on a news posted here in the thread)..

Natanong ko na dati yung about sa line 9 somebody answered it's the subway on makati CBD

^^ eh paano siya icconnect sa north edsa? heheh...

Ano un details sa MRT 9? san ito mag traverse?

LRT-1: Yellow Line (Baclaran-Monumento),(Monumento-North Avenue)
LRT-2: Purple Line (Recto-Santolan)
MRT-3: Blue Line (Taft Avenue-North Avenue)
MRT-4: Red Line (shelved),(Manila-Quezon Avenue-Batasan Route)
MRT-5: Green Line (Valenzuela-Fort Bonifacio)(Underground Loop, North Rail)
LRT-6: Yellow Line (LRT-1 South Extension) (Redemptorist-Niog)
MRT-7: "SM Line" (North Avenue-Tala)
MRT-8: East Rail Line (Santa Mesa-Cainta-Angono-Santa Cruz)
MRT-9: ???

Is it the underground urban metro manila loop?

what i know is...it will connect Makati CBD to Fort Bonifacio then Ortigas Center forming a triangular shape.

Ano un details sa MRT 9? san ito mag traverse?

LRT-1: Yellow Line (Baclaran-Monumento),(Monumento-North Avenue)
LRT-2: Purple Line (Recto-Santolan)
MRT-3: Blue Line (Taft Avenue-North Avenue)
MRT-4: Red Line (shelved),(Manila-Quezon Avenue-Batasan Route)
MRT-5: Green Line (Valenzuela-Fort Bonifacio)(Underground Loop, North Rail)
LRT-6: Yellow Line (LRT-1 South Extension) (Redemptorist-Niog)
MRT-7: "SM Line" (North Avenue-Tala)
MRT-8: East Rail Line (Santa Mesa-Cainta-Angono-Santa Cruz)
MRT-9: ???

Is it the underground urban metro manila loop?

Aba, may MRT-9 na palang pina-plano...
Kaso mukhang matatagalan pa ito pati yung iba pang MRT/LRT lines...

w8 w8 w8
nagsisitambakan na ata mga projects nila... hahaha
kaya hindi matapostapos yung isa kasi biglang susulpot yung isa, hshhaa

w8 w8 w8
nagsisitambakan na ata mga projects nila... hahaha
kaya hindi matapostapos yung isa kasi biglang susulpot yung isa, hshhaa

Hay, oo nga, puro plano na lang...
Kulang sa gawa, mabagal.....:ohno:

what i know is...it will connect Makati CBD to Fort Bonifacio then Ortigas Center forming a triangular shape.

This line looks promising. This will serve 3 financial districts Makati with MRT3, Global and ORtigas with MRT3. I hope it's underground/subway.

it think the mrt 5 that could overlap that "mrt 9" by few stations. mrt 5 is the supposedly direct link from tutuban station going east to ortigas then fort bonifacio. the "mrt 9" could be a loop linking makati-ortigas-taguig, but that would be going to be a really small loop. the more sounding line could be from pasay to makati and to taguig, and it would be certainly not a loop.

another line could be parallel to c-5 road, traversing the future c-5 extension west to las-pinas (don't worry about passenger competition between this line and the pnr, pnr is certainly goes north-south, while this line is a north-east-west route, and would look like letter J.)

future is wild!

Mag bisikleta na lang. peace!

http://www.metts.com.au/manila-subway-diagram-6.jpg

Ito kaya ang MRT 9 ???

http://ezinearticles.com/?Solving-Manilas-Transport-Congestion---A-Rail-Subway-Solution&id=992070

masyado nga yan maliit. sa tingin ko, mas marami pang linya ang mas mahalagang tapusin kesa yan. ang goal natin dapat eh may rail connection sa north, northeast, east, southeast, south at southwest ang metro manila, katulad nung napagplanuhang radial roads (R-1 to R-9), para mabawasan ng congestion ang metro, at magkaroon ng developments sa mga kalapit lugar.

wala namang magaakala 50 years ago na ang nielsen airfield (isang runway) ay gagawing isang daanan na puno ng skyscrapers, at maging isa pang sentro ng komersyo. ito ay tinatawag ngayon na ayala avenue.

kaya sa susunod pang 50 years, alam na natin kung anu pa ba ang maaaring mangyari sa mega manila:)

Sana nman gawan din ng Mrt na alabang to Magallanes para mas masaya na

^^ pansin ko nga walang rail connection ang south MM... pati na rin kami (north MM), huhu...

@kratos: san mo nakita yan?

(edited: hahha... hndi ko agad napansin yung link sa baba...)

hindi ba mas maganda kung lakihan pa nila ung loop?

Ano un details sa MRT 9? san ito mag traverse?

LRT-1: Yellow Line (Baclaran-Monumento),(Monumento-North Avenue)
LRT-2: Purple Line (Recto-Santolan)
MRT-3: Blue Line (Taft Avenue-North Avenue)
MRT-4: Red Line (shelved),(Manila-Quezon Avenue-Batasan Route)
MRT-5: Green Line (Valenzuela-Fort Bonifacio)(Underground Loop, North Rail)
LRT-6: Yellow Line (LRT-1 South Extension) (Redemptorist-Niog)
MRT-7: "SM Line" (North Avenue-Tala)
MRT-8: East Rail Line (Santa Mesa-Cainta-Angono-Santa Cruz)
MRT-9: ???

Is it the underground urban metro manila loop?

Andaming plans.... may mrt 5 pa pala... di ko na update yun ah... dami na kasi plano... ang ganda sa papel... ni isang column o station wala.

sana immediate matapos southrail rehab , lrt 6, lrt 1 - north... very important tong mga ito... hopeless na din northrail... mrt 8 in my dreams

sa mga multinational companies na nagdidivest mula sa mga core business nila (like San Miguel Corp.) sana maconsider din ang pagdevelop ng railways/mass transport even through consortiums with the government , or maybe even without them... mass rail naman kailangan ng tao malamang di naman lugi tong business na ito pero long term nga lang yung return...

ITO pala nabasa ko lang... parang kailan pa ito nasulat... very hopeless talaga ang
development ng railway system natin puro plano puro pangako...

http://www.moveandstay.com/manila/guide_transport.asp

Anu yung proposal na LRT line sa Espana? anung line po ito? TY

dyan magaling ang Pinas, napakaganda ng plano, kalpot ang implementation

http://www.metts.com.au/manila-subway-diagram-6.jpg

Ito kaya ang MRT 9 ???

http://ezinearticles.com/?Solving-Manilas-Transport-Congestion---A-Rail-Subway-Solution&id=992070

Madami syang dadaanang villages, unless pumayag sila or idaan nalang sa existing roads...:ohno:

meaning, matatagalan pa eto :D

Madami syang dadaanang villages, unless pumayag sila or idaan nalang sa existing roads...:ohno:

meaning, matatagalan pa eto :D

Hindi ba underground na ito para hindi hassle ang construction...?

^^ which means gagamitan nila ng tunnel drilling machine???

so hindi pala siya triangular but elliptical. it was indeed planned to be underground, pero being so, i guess it's close to remain just a dream for us. for now. hopefully not.

MRT extension taken last week. Nothing much..

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/2895/mrtx01ht4.jpg
http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/6536/mrtx02jc0.jpg

^^ kailan pa kaya maggssprout bigla ang mga 300++ na poste na yan... hmmm...

so hindi pala siya triangular but elliptical. it was indeed planned to be underground, pero being so, i guess it's close to remain just a dream for us. for now. hopefully not.


It is elliptical, however, land owners in metro manila owns everything in their square meters all the way from ground zero to space and below the ground...

That's why madaming overpass, underpass na nag pa liko liko dahil ang mga homeowners ayaw padaanin yun...

To prove this, i think 75 years old nako, hindi pa tapos ang planong ito. :lol:

MRT extension taken last week. Nothing much..

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/2895/mrtx01ht4.jpg
http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/6536/mrtx02jc0.jpg

Nahuli ko rin ito nung Oct. 21 mula sa Victory Liner bus patungong Baguio City, hehehe^_^

http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo261/hirolionheart/DSCF1736.jpg

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Imagine MRT route cut in two parts PDF Print E-mail
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Written by Claudette Mocon / Correspondent
Monday, 27 October 2008 23:02

http://businessmirror.com.ph/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1094:imagine-mrt-route-cut-in-two-parts&catid=23:topnews

METRO Rail Transit Authority (MRTA) general manager Roberto Lastimoso on Monday remained steadfast in his threat to shut down the elevated railway stations in Mandaluyong, if the Mandaluyong City Hall insists on imposing a P2-billion real-estate tax assessment on three of the commuter facility’s stations in Mandaluyong—Ortigas, Shaw and Boni.

Mayor Benjamin “Benhur” Abalos Jr. is as adamant in maintaining that the city government should be paid by the private consortium that built the railway, as he questioned why the government took the responsibility of paying the taxes supposed to be paid by the private consortium, when the government actually had no intention of paying.

Should Lastimoso make good his threat, the railway trips from North Edsa station would end at the Santolan station, and that from Baclaran would be only up to Guadalupe.

“So the people may know, what is in the contract is that the tax will be paid by the Department of Transportation and Communications [DOTC]. Now, when we were collecting from the DOTC, they said ‘sorry, we are exempted’,” said Abalos. “My only point is why the debt of a private corporation would be shouldered by the DOTC when it turns out it had no plans at all to pay the tax in the first place.”

The city government of Mandaluyong has declared ownership of the three mentioned MRT stations that are within its boundaries on the strength of a writ of possession granted it by Judge Carlos Valenzuela of the Regional Trial Court (RTC) in Mandaluyong on Wednesday.

Abalos said the city now has the authority to demand rent from MRT Corp. and collect taxes from firms that own commercial stalls and advertising billboards in the three stations.

“I want to make it clear we have no plans to take over the technical aspects of the issue that is why the public should not worry; but be assured that we are one with them because we know of the economic crisis and if we could help lower fares, we will do it,” added Abalos.

Homer Peñada, acting branch clerk of court, directed court sheriff Gerardo Umali to “eject the Metro Rail Transit Corp. and all persons or entities claiming rights under it who are physically occupying” the three stations.

Lastimoso said a similar case was filed in Quezon City “and there is a ruling that the government should not pay taxes to the local government. In Makati, a similar case is still ongoing and it is only here in Mandaluyong where our case was defeated.”

He added that, “You know, it is under the contract of the Republic of the Philippines represented by the DOTC with Metro Rail Transit Corp. that all the realty taxes will be paid by the government because [the] government is the operator. In other words, the operative word here [is] effective control and operation of the system, and there is already a decided case where the Supreme Court ruled that all national government facilities operating public transport systems are exempted from paying taxes to the local government. That is our basis” for not paying. Lastimoso added, “that’s why the Office of the Solicitor General filed a petition for reconsideration [at the RTC in Mandaluyong].”

He said with the Supreme Court having ruled with finality that the contract is legal and enforceable, the DOTC must follow the provisions and only amending the contract would make possible other provisions or conditions of the contract.

MRT Corp., a private company, built and equipped the overhead train system under a build-lease-transfer deal. In return, the firm would receive from government monthly rent and maintenance fees through the Metro Rail Transit Authority of the DOTC.

:badnews:

^^ Apparently Mr. Lastimoso hasn't heard of a bypass. If he doesn't want to pass through Mandaluyong, trains can just bypass those stations. Parang "ghost stations" sa Berlin during the time of the Berlin Wall.

^^
Hala..., another bad news nga..., ano ba naman yan...?!:ohno:

Sino ba naman ang papayag sa mga pasahero ng MRT-3 na mapuputol sa kalagitnaan (sa Mandaluyong City pa) ang kanilang biyahe...?

^^ and the general public, who matter most, are stuck in the middle.

"Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to me right, here i am stuck in the middle with you"
Bob Dylan~

Ah! The spoils of local datuism...:ohno: In the end, we will all end up to be the victims of this bloody technicality in the bureaucrazy!

^^ Apparently Mr. Lastimoso hasn't heard of a bypass. If he doesn't want to pass through Mandaluyong, trains can just bypass those stations. Parang "ghost stations" sa Berlin during the time of the Berlin Wall.

hahaha panalo parang Semi-rapid train sa Japan na skip other stations... advantageous sa mga bumababa ng Ayala at Magallanes, minus about 5-10 minutes... so parang MRT 3-A (North-Santolan) MRT3-Mandaluyong Line (Ortigas-Shaw-Santolan) MRT-3-B(Guadalupe-Taft)... WOW instant new lines
hahaha

seriously, this news sucks...

but i guess even if Lastimoso will be like threatening... GMA wont approve that the trip would be cut... its just suicide if that will be done... just strange.

hahaha panalo parang Semi-rapid train sa Japan na skip other stations... advantageous sa mga bumababa ng Ayala at Magallanes, minus about 5-10 minutes... so parang MRT 3-A (North-Santolan) MRT3-Mandaluyong Line (Ortigas-Shaw-Santolan) MRT-3-B(Guadalupe-Taft)... WOW instant new lines
hahaha

seriously, this news sucks...

Masama pa niyan kapag nagkanya-kanya na rin ng mga MRT-3 lines pati ang Quezon City at Makati City... tsk tsk tsk:ohno:

http://www.metts.com.au/manila-subway-diagram-6.jpg

Ito kaya ang MRT 9 ???

http://ezinearticles.com/?Solving-Manilas-Transport-Congestion---A-Rail-Subway-Solution&id=992070

parang may mali sa pic, nakalagay dun sa connection sa mga MRT lines eh parang mali kumbaga instead of subway MRT-3 interconnection nagiging subway MRT-2 interconnection

saka if ever iimplement ito, I propose na isama na din ang Eastwood at Araneta and North EDSA para magkakadugtong mga CBD sa manila, pero lalawak nga lang ang scope

hahaha panalo parang Semi-rapid train sa Japan na skip other stations... advantageous sa mga bumababa ng Ayala at Magallanes, minus about 5-10 minutes... so parang MRT 3-A (North-Santolan) MRT3-Mandaluyong Line (Ortigas-Shaw-Santolan) MRT-3-B(Guadalupe-Taft)... WOW instant new lines
hahaha

seriously, this news sucks...

but i guess even if Lastimoso will be like threatening... GMA wont approve that the trip would be cut... its just suicide if that will be done... just strange.

grabehan naman yung pagputol ng MRT into sub-lines...
:bash:
magulo na nga, lalo pang magkakagulo sa loob ng mga stations

parang may mali sa pic, nakalagay dun sa connection sa mga MRT lines eh parang mali kumbaga instead of subway MRT-3 interconnection nagiging subway MRT-2 interconnection

saka if ever iimplement ito, I propose na isama na din ang Eastwood at Araneta and North EDSA para magkakadugtong mga CBD sa manila, pero lalawak nga lang ang scope

Ah oo nga..., typographical error na lang siguro yun...
Yup, agree din ako kung magkakaroon din ng underground stations sa Eastwood Libis, Araneta Center at sa North EDSA^_^

Editorial: The MRT conundrum (http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1153:editorial-the-mrt-conundrum&catid=28:opinion)
Opinion
Tuesday, 28 October 2008 22:06

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MANDALUYONG Mayor Benjamin Abalos Jr. may have scored political points with his 300,000 constituents when he decided to take on the Metro Rail Transit Corp. (MRTC). And, he has a valid point in criticizing the national government for undertaking, in the agreement covering the MRT, to pay the local taxes for a private consortium, only to say later that it has no intention of doing so. However, the millions of other residents of the capital region—of which Mandaluyong is but a tiny slice—are not amused by his move.

MRTC operates the Metro Rail Transit System, popularly known as the MRT, Metrostar Express or Metrostar, which has a single line, MRT-3 or the Blue Line. MRTC is a private company operating in partnership with the Department of Transportation and Communications under a build-lease-transfer (BLT) agreement.

A judge—from Mandaluyong, naturally—has been persuaded by the mayor’s argument that MRTC owes his city some P2 billion in real-estate taxes. The levy pertains to three MRT-3 stations located near the intersections of Ortigas, Shaw and Boni avenues.

The local authorities of two other cities have sought to dun MRTC for building train stops in their jurisdictions. The bid of Quezon City to exact toll on the commuter-train operator has been dismissed, while that of Makati is still pending. It is only in Mandaluyong—so far—that the attempt by local officials to get their piece of the pie from a key national infrastructure has met judicial success.

With MRT-3 passenger volume topping 500,000 on weekdays, Abalos might have been led to believe that the commuter line’s operators must be raking in megaprofits. In fact, thanks to complications in the company’s BLT arrangement with the national government, MRTC is not even able to generate enough revenue to expand its fleet of coaches. Despite the spike in ridership as a result of skyrocketing fuel prices in the past few months, the commuter-train line only manages to continue running because of state-guaranteed earnings.

When first conceived in the early 1990s, the MRT-3 was envisioned to decongest the perennially heavy traffic on Metro Manila’s main artery, Epifanio de los Santos Avenue (Edsa). Although Edsa still looks like a long, winding parking lot far too often, the train has become a welcome alternative to hundreds of thousands of commuters who need to get from the northeastern part of Metro Manila to points further south and west of the capital region and vice versa in a hurry. The MRT-3 passes through not just Mandaluyong, but also Pasay, Makati, San Juan and Quezon City.

Like its predecessor, the Light Rail Transit 1 that runs from Baclaran to Monumento, and the newer line stretching from Marikina to C. M. Recto Avenue in Manila, the MRT-3 is a key component of a grand mass-transport system that Metro Manilans have been demanding for decades. Work has begun on yet another line that would connect San Jose del Monte in Bulacan to North Avenue in Quezon City.

It’s hard to imagine the chaos that would ensue if the legal theory that underpinned the Mandaluyong judge’s decision affirming Mandaluyong City’s power not only to impose real-estate taxes on the MRT-3, but also to seize the three stations located in the city were applied to the other commuter-train lines, as well as to civil works like the North and South Luzon Expressways, Skyway and the Coastal Road toll way.

Dozens of city, town, provincial and even barangay officials might be tempted to exercise virtually feudal rights over national infrastructure.

Local executives like Mayor Abalos ought to appreciate projects like the MRT-3 not as another opportunity to raise funds, but as a boon to their constituents and, just as important, an incentive to do business in their localities.

^^ Legal mumbo jumbo aside, this is an example of crab mentality at its finest! Only in the Philippines can a power tripping egotistic mayor threaten a rapid transit system that has brought so much relief and goodness to millions of people, including his very own citizens, for the sake of political grandstanding. :ohno:

It's Abalos???? hmmm. I am always reminded of his burjer father.

Quezon City also aggressively pursued similar measures against EDSA-MRT but ultimately failed. Sobrang naging aggressive kasi sa taxes while not understanding the overall economic benefits these LGU's derive from the transport system.

It's Abalos???? hmmm. I am always reminded of his burjer father.

national interest ang MRT, mas "Right of Way" ang government , rather than Abalos invoking the "tax" area of Mandaluyong... anyway sabi ko nga di naman papayag si GMA pag pinagpilitan ni Lastimoso at Abalos ang patigasan nila... grabe... Millions of commuters will suffer because of a misunderstanding... tsktsk

national interest ang MRT, mas "Right of Way" ang government , rather than Abalos invoking the "tax" area of Mandaluyong... anyway sabi ko nga di naman papayag si GMA pag pinagpilitan ni Lastimoso at Abalos ang patigasan nila... grabe... Millions of commuters will suffer because of a misunderstanding... tsktsk

That's the problem of Metro Manila having over 10 cities with their own mayor, etc.

i think it is better to compare and pattern them to Indian MRT Systems...our great anceestors came from

MRT 3 contractor wants higher buyout cost (http://manilatimes.net/national/2008/oct/31/yehey/business/20081031bus1.html)
By Darwin G Amojelar, Reporter

THE cost of buying out the Metro Rail Transit Line 3 (MRT 3) has ballooned to a billion dollars, raising the prospect that the government may forego the proposed deal, an official told The Manila Times.

In a telephone interview, Roberto Lastimoso, Metro Rail Transit Authority (MRTA) general manager, said the Metro Rail Transit Corp. (MRTC) has increased the purchase price of the rail system to $1 billion.

Last year, the government, through the Departments of Finance and of Transportation and Communications, entered into an agreement with the MRTC to buy out the build-lease-transfer (BLT) contract for $865 million, ahead of the period stipulated in the concession agreement.

MRTC is a consortium led by the Sobrepeña family’s Fil-Estate Management. Other investors include Ayala Land Inc., Anglo-Philippine Holdings Corp., Ramcar Inc. and Greenfield Development Corp.

“MRTC wants to squeeze more from the government. If they will not lower the price, maybe we’ll just continue the contract,” Lastimoso said, adding the government had planned to buy out the contract early to save on operating costs.

The MRT 3 contract guarantees a 15-percent return on investment for 25 years.

Lastimoso said the government and MRTC have different computations on the net present value of the MRT 3.

“We believe it should be lower,” he said, without disclosing the figures.

The MRTA official said that the finance department is still negotiating with the MRTC, adding that keeping the contract is another option for the government.

The early buyout will result in $380 million in savings for the government, according to the finance department. An earlier study, though, showed that the savings can run to $1 billion.

Lastimoso said if the government failed to buy back MRT 3, it would pay $10 million in monthly equity payments by 2010 and $1.6 million for maintenance costs.

The option to buy out MRT 3 was raised because the government can no longer afford to subsidize the railway’s operations. The government is paying the Sobrepeña-led consortium $3.33 million a month as equity payment and $1.43 million a month for maintenance costs.

Lastimoso said the MRTC has yet to agree to a transport department proposal to purchase more light rail vehicles for the line.

He said the government cannot procure additional trains for MRT 3 because MRTC has the right of first refusal under the contract.

“They want the government to buy out the MRT 3 [first],” the official said.

The government’s plan to buy more trains stemmed from commuter congestion at MRT 3 as a result of higher fuel prices and record-high inflation. Costlier fuel and food have forced many, including car owners, to use trains and other public vehicles.

Lastimoso said the railway is designed to carry about 22,500 passengers per peak hour per direction (PPHD), but existing demand has ballooned to 26,500 passengers. The maximum load of 22,500 was breached in 2004.

Lastimoso said the government intends to buy 73 light-rail cars with three minutes headway or four-car trains with 2.5 minutes headway at a cost of $3 million each.

Despite the failed negotiations on the MRT 3 capacity expansion, Lastimoso said the government will pursue it by leasing light rail vehicles from state-run Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA).

“We will borrow 21 cars and we expect some of these cars to be operational before the end of the year,” he said.

By next week, LRTA will transfer three cars to test their compatibility. MRT 3 was built to speed up the commute and alleviate chronic traffic congestion along Epifanio de los Santos Avenue (EDSA), the country’s busiest major thoroughfare. But the current capacity of the railway is inadequate to meet the first goal, let alone the second. The line’s tracks run almost the entire stretch of the avenue.

At present, MRT 3 has a fleet of 73 Czech-made air-conditioned cars, of which up to 60 three-car trains operate daily. The trains run at a top speed of 65 kilometers per hour to cover 13 stations in about 30 minutes, stopping for 25 seconds to 35 seconds per station.

wala bang vision ang MRTC, puro pa pera na lang sila galing gobyerno? tsk tsk..

I hope MRTA will give in to the governments offer to buy out the entire project, this will be a huge savings for the government, then bid out the privatization of the management for MRTA and maintenance. The extra savings should be used in other railway projects and expedite the construction.

This is a shining example of how private ownership of crucial infrastructures can fail and negatively affect the public.

We have here a company that senses the government's great desire to buy out MRT and it wants to squeeze out as much money as it possibly could from the government.

They are demanding more money for a system that lacks enough trains to serve growing demand and a system that is behind in ticketing technology and facility improvements.

It seems as if they are putting off the prospects of purchasing, borrowing, or loaning new/used trains just to pressure the government to buy them out for a sky high price.

Whenever i use the MRT im always in awe of the crowds that patronize it. With so many people cramming in each car you'd wonder how they can't afford to buy new trains to improve service and relieve congestion.

I believe this is all about greed and money on the part of the MRTC.


MRT 3 contractor wants higher buyout cost (http://manilatimes.net/national/2008/oct/31/yehey/business/20081031bus1.html)
By Darwin G Amojelar, Reporter

THE cost of buying out the Metro Rail Transit Line 3 (MRT 3) has ballooned to a billion dollars, raising the prospect that the government may forego the proposed deal, an official told The Manila Times.

In a telephone interview, Roberto Lastimoso, Metro Rail Transit Authority (MRTA) general manager, said the Metro Rail Transit Corp. (MRTC) has increased the purchase price of the rail system to $1 billion.

Last year, the government, through the Departments of Finance and of Transportation and Communications, entered into an agreement with the MRTC to buy out the build-lease-transfer (BLT) contract for $865 million, ahead of the period stipulated in the concession agreement.

MRTC is a consortium led by the Sobrepeña family’s Fil-Estate Management. Other investors include Ayala Land Inc., Anglo-Philippine Holdings Corp., Ramcar Inc. and Greenfield Development Corp.

“MRTC wants to squeeze more from the government. If they will not lower the price, maybe we’ll just continue the contract,” Lastimoso said, adding the government had planned to buy out the contract early to save on operating costs.

The MRT 3 contract guarantees a 15-percent return on investment for 25 years.

Lastimoso said the government and MRTC have different computations on the net present value of the MRT 3.

“We believe it should be lower,” he said, without disclosing the figures.

The MRTA official said that the finance department is still negotiating with the MRTC, adding that keeping the contract is another option for the government.

The early buyout will result in $380 million in savings for the government, according to the finance department. An earlier study, though, showed that the savings can run to $1 billion.

Lastimoso said if the government failed to buy back MRT 3, it would pay $10 million in monthly equity payments by 2010 and $1.6 million for maintenance costs.

The option to buy out MRT 3 was raised because the government can no longer afford to subsidize the railway’s operations. The government is paying the Sobrepeña-led consortium $3.33 million a month as equity payment and $1.43 million a month for maintenance costs.

Lastimoso said the MRTC has yet to agree to a transport department proposal to purchase more light rail vehicles for the line.

He said the government cannot procure additional trains for MRT 3 because MRTC has the right of first refusal under the contract.

“They want the government to buy out the MRT 3 [first],” the official said.

The government’s plan to buy more trains stemmed from commuter congestion at MRT 3 as a result of higher fuel prices and record-high inflation. Costlier fuel and food have forced many, including car owners, to use trains and other public vehicles.

Lastimoso said the railway is designed to carry about 22,500 passengers per peak hour per direction (PPHD), but existing demand has ballooned to 26,500 passengers. The maximum load of 22,500 was breached in 2004.

Lastimoso said the government intends to buy 73 light-rail cars with three minutes headway or four-car trains with 2.5 minutes headway at a cost of $3 million each.

Despite the failed negotiations on the MRT 3 capacity expansion, Lastimoso said the government will pursue it by leasing light rail vehicles from state-run Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA).

“We will borrow 21 cars and we expect some of these cars to be operational before the end of the year,” he said.

By next week, LRTA will transfer three cars to test their compatibility. MRT 3 was built to speed up the commute and alleviate chronic traffic congestion along Epifanio de los Santos Avenue (EDSA), the country’s busiest major thoroughfare. But the current capacity of the railway is inadequate to meet the first goal, let alone the second. The line’s tracks run almost the entire stretch of the avenue.

At present, MRT 3 has a fleet of 73 Czech-made air-conditioned cars, of which up to 60 three-car trains operate daily. The trains run at a top speed of 65 kilometers per hour to cover 13 stations in about 30 minutes, stopping for 25 seconds to 35 seconds per station.

Is that one bad thing about privatization of crucial infrastructures?

^^ One I could think of for now, if you may, please add. :) Tanx :)

MRT should return under the care of LRT officials. LRT is being ran so much better right now. Isn't LRT trying to lend a helping hand to MRT officials? Are they refusing? What's going?

Is that one bad thing about privatization of crucial infrastructures?

Maybe... depende kasi iyan sa private sector na hahawak ng project... bakit ang NLEx? Maganda pa rin...

Anyway, umabot na sa Caloocan ang construction ng LRT North Extension project...

^^ I hope we get pictures of the construction in Monumento. Although we have had our own photoshopped concepts posted before, I'm actually kinda curious how they will reconfigure the tail track of LRT1 so that it can continue onwards towards North Edsa.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3244/2994653152_ae9c871b25_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3035/2993811753_b2f069cf71_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3159/2994654440_6b89f4fc04_b.jpg

Cubao MRT Station Arayat side

Madami syang dadaanang villages, unless pumayag sila or idaan nalang sa existing roads...:ohno:

meaning, matatagalan pa eto :D
kayang-kayang gawin yan ng mga pinoy...probably pinoy na 1000 generations from now if pinoys will ever survive at all

maiba naman, sino ang may picture ng lrt 2 at mrt 3 na dumadaan sa cubao ng sabay? hehe..

maiba naman, sino ang may picture ng lrt 2 at mrt 3 na dumadaan sa cubao ng sabay? hehe..

Aba, magandang hamon yan ah:)
Well, ako, wala pa..., hehehe:lol:

Nararamdaman kong may makakapag-post din nun dito:)

^^ meron ako na pinagsamang north bound at south bound Cubao Arayat MRT :)

^^ meron ako na pinagsamang north bound at south bound Cubao Arayat MRT :)

Ayos ah, pa-post naman, hehehe:colgate:

^^
"Saylo ka leang" -- sa salitang Akeanon. Tuloy ka lang

'ea' - parang la ang tunog. Binibigkas sa "la le li lo lu" na parang 'ya'.

Hindi ako expert na linguist na Bisayan language(Akeanon).

Somebody here, guide my friend from Rizal :)

^^ hirap naman, LRT2 at MRT3 tapos sabay, hahaha...
madalas ata tuwing peak hours, kasi maraming trains ang nagooperate

^^
"Saylo ka leang" -- sa salitang Akeanon. Tuloy ka lang

'ea' - parang la ang tunog. Binibigkas sa "la le li lo lu" na parang 'ya'.

Hindi ako expert na linguist na Bisayan language(Akeanon).

Somebody here, guide my friend from Rizal :)

Hindi ko gets ito...:nuts:
Ako ba ang tinutukoy mo dito Igsuonnimo?, hehehe:lol:

11/03/2008 | 11:24 AM

Email this | Email the Editor | Print | Digg this | Add to del.icio.us MANILA, Philippines - Traffic was snarled along EDSA Monday morning after residents of Bagong Barrio, Calooocan City barricaded the major thoroughfare's north-bound lane along Balintawak.

Radio dzBB's Mao dela Cruz said the residents blocked the road to call for a construction of a Metro Rail Transit (MRT) station built in their area when the MRT expands to Caloocan City.

Metropolitan Manila Development Authority (MMDA) units immediately arrived in the area to facilitate traffic flow, said the report. - Johanna Camille Sisante, GMANews.TV

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I doubt if it will be practical to build a station in Bagong Barrio.

tagadoon kaya talaga sila? nakarinig na ako nag poprotesta "laban" sa pagtatayo ng railway system, pero magprotesta para magtayo sa kanilang lugar? ganoon ba sila ka-eager doon?

tagadoon kaya talaga sila? nakarinig na ako nag poprotesta "laban" sa pagtatayo ng railway system, pero magprotesta para magtayo sa kanilang lugar? ganoon ba sila ka-eager doon?

Oo nga eh, ibang klase ito, protesta para sa isang dagdag na istasyon sa kanilang lugar, hehehe:lol:
Maganda kaya talaga ang magiging benepisyo nito sa Bagong Barrio, Caloocan City...?:nuts:

tagadoon kaya talaga sila? nakarinig na ako nag poprotesta "laban" sa pagtatayo ng railway system, pero magprotesta para magtayo sa kanilang lugar? ganoon ba sila ka-eager doon?

bago to ah ang sarap pakinggan . "we protest that you build a station in our area" wow demanding hahaha... from forums to the streets... :banana:

11/03/2008 | 11:24 AM

Email this | Email the Editor | Print | Digg this | Add to del.icio.us MANILA, Philippines - Traffic was snarled along EDSA Monday morning after residents of Bagong Barrio, Calooocan City barricaded the major thoroughfare's north-bound lane along Balintawak.

Radio dzBB's Mao dela Cruz said the residents blocked the road to call for a construction of a Metro Rail Transit (MRT) station built in their area when the MRT expands to Caloocan City.

Metropolitan Manila Development Authority (MMDA) units immediately arrived in the area to facilitate traffic flow, said the report. - Johanna Camille Sisante, GMANews.TV

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I doubt if it will be practical to build a station in Bagong Barrio.

:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

bago to ah ang sarap pakinggan . "we protest that you build a station in our area" wow demanding hahaha... from forums to the streets... :banana:

A positive protest. Sana maraming ganyan.....like yong sa LRT 6 extension area...

Hindi ko gets ito...:nuts:
Ako ba ang tinutukoy mo dito Igsuonnimo?, hehehe:lol:


naduling ako kagabi sa posting mo :nuts: nagkasabay kasi dun sa Bisayan Thread :nuts:
mali ako dun. akala ko kasi gusto mo mag-post sa Southern twang hehehe :)

lesson learned: hirap kapag palagi nagmamadali, oras ang kalaban.

naduling ako kagabi sa posting mo :nuts: nagkasabay kasi dun sa Bisayan Thread :nuts:
mali ako dun. akala ko kasi gusto mo mag-post sa Southern twang hehehe :)

lesson learned: hirap kapag palagi nagmamadali, oras ang kalaban.

Ah okie, hehehe:lol:

I doubt if it will be practical to build a station in Bagong Barrio.


i think it's practical to build Bagong Barrio station
(kung doon malapit sa pag-ibig caloocan...)
kasi pumupunta ako doon every month, hahaha... joke...
marami atang bumababa at sumasakay doon sa area na yun...
may mini-jeepney terminal pa nearby...
which means marami-rami ang mga sumasakay doon...

11/03/2008 | 11:24 AM

Email this | Email the Editor | Print | Digg this | Add to del.icio.us MANILA, Philippines - Traffic was snarled along EDSA Monday morning after residents of Bagong Barrio, Calooocan City barricaded the major thoroughfare's north-bound lane along Balintawak.

Radio dzBB's Mao dela Cruz said the residents blocked the road to call for a construction of a Metro Rail Transit (MRT) station built in their area when the MRT expands to Caloocan City.

Metropolitan Manila Development Authority (MMDA) units immediately arrived in the area to facilitate traffic flow, said the report. - Johanna Camille Sisante, GMANews.TV

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I doubt if it will be practical to build a station in Bagong Barrio.

Lagyan ko lang ng picture, from gmanews.tv:colgate:

http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo261/hirolionheart/LRTExtBrgyBarrioCaloocanCity.jpg

^^ Dapat ganyan din sa Northrail...

Ayos ah, pa-post naman, hehehe:colgate:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3284/2999437234_b2d508b564_b.jpg

nobis amatyuristik na pagpotoshap :)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3284/2999437234_b2d508b564_b.jpg

nobis amatyuristik na pagpotoshap :)

Nice for a novice amateuristic Photoshop job, hehehe:okay:

kung may ganoong hinaing eh di pagbigyan... putting a station will benefit not just the traffic but also the economy of bagong barrio.

should they build another station?

^^ i think the government should not.. this is a positive protest but if another station will be built, ang tagal na masyado ng interval ng trains sa stretch ng edsa na yan from monumento...

it would be better if they move the station in their area, but i doubt if that may happen...

they should be content that a line is being built near their area.. even if they have to take a 3-5-minute jeepney/bus ride to get to a station...

tell that inconvenience to the people of fairview (farview) who travels way more to get to the north ave/trinoma mrt station...

nakakatuwa lang kasi na positive protest ito... very rare kaya gusto ko nag magkaroon ng station sa kanila but if practicality ang paguusapan eh malamang hindi sila pagbigyan but who knows...

A positive protest. Sana maraming ganyan.....like yong sa LRT 6 extension area...

eto ha come to think of it, bakit hindi ito nalolobby masyado? minsan din kasi passive din yung mga mismong mga tga area na yun (south) dapat may ways din sila (kahit a simple protest :D) tignan nyo Villar from LP na puedeng magbenefit din dito so silent... Revilla from Cavite, coastal and C5 extension busy , sana pati ito pansinin din nya, even Lacson sa pagka ANTI nya wala sya ngawa kungdi magreklamo sa mga proyekto ng gobyerno... Even the mayors of Pque and Munti la din... tsk tsk... laging puro mga business chamber ang nagsasabi na very important ito sa south... ayan ha... sa mga Tga SOUTH , buti kayo may Southrail na... why not LRT 6 naman...

Pasensya na pero nalilito talaga ako kung alin ang ii-extend - lrt1 ba o ang mrt? :nuts:


11/03/2008 | 11:24 AM

Email this | Email the Editor | Print | Digg this | Add to del.icio.us MANILA, Philippines - Traffic was snarled along EDSA Monday morning after residents of Bagong Barrio, Calooocan City barricaded the major thoroughfare's north-bound lane along Balintawak.

Radio dzBB's Mao dela Cruz said the residents blocked the road to call for a construction of a Metro Rail Transit (MRT) station built in their area when the MRT expands to Caloocan City.

Metropolitan Manila Development Authority (MMDA) units immediately arrived in the area to facilitate traffic flow, said the report. - Johanna Camille Sisante, GMANews.TV

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I doubt if it will be practical to build a station in Bagong Barrio.

Pasensya na pero nalilito talaga ako kung alin ang ii-extend - lrt1 ba o ang mrt? :nuts:

Ang alam ko ay LRT-1 North Extension ang project na yan. From Monumento station paaabutin hanggang North Avenue EDSA station para mag-meet na ang LRT-1 at MRT-3:colgate:

bago to ah ang sarap pakinggan . "we protest that you build a station in our area" wow demanding hahaha... from forums to the streets... :banana:

e ksi , para may income din ung caloocan.. parang ung ngyari sa mrt sa mandaluyong.. para may income ang caloocan sa lrt every month.. pag nilagay ksi sa balintawak, considered as Quezon city na..haha

sana naman talaga na magkaroon ng station sa bagong barrio sa may HONDA kasi dun ako bumababa pra sumakay papuntang lasalle araneta....hehe

^^
w8 napansin ko bigla... magkalapit ang balintawak at bagong barrio, hahaha
(actually magkatabi lang... a.bonifacio ave lang ang naghihiwalay sa dalawa...)

napansin ko lang din na malaki ang distance between stations sa lrt1 extension...
hehehe...

e ksi , para may income din ung caloocan.. parang ung ngyari sa mrt sa mandaluyong.. para may income ang caloocan sa lrt every month.. pag nilagay ksi sa balintawak, considered as Quezon city na..haha

Oo nga naman no, hehehe, masyado ng maraming istasyon ng LRT/MRT ang QC, mag-share naman sa Caloocan City:cheers:

^^
w8 napansin ko bigla... magkalapit ang balintawak at bagong barrio, hahaha
(actually magkatabi lang... a.bonifacio ave lang ang naghihiwalay sa dalawa...)

napansin ko lang din na malaki ang distance between stations sa lrt1 extension...
hehehe...

sabi ng DOTC mahal daw ksi mag construct at magmaintain ng isang lrt station.. kaya 3 lang na train station..(for me mas ok siguro kung gnawa nlng nila tulad sa stations ng lrt1 na dikit dikit atleast pabor sa mga passengers.. isipin mu nlng, what if malayo ung bahay nyo sa lrt station, eh di mag 2 sakay ka pa (jeep o bus pa) ..) ang panget 2loy noh? 18 stations dikit dikit tpos pag kalampas ng Monumento ni Andres, magkakalayo na..

napansin ko sa pic ng mga hinuhukay na piers ng lrt north extension eh mukhang malayo ang gap ng mga piers compare sa existing piers sa taft and avenida..

napansin ko sa pic ng mga hinuhukay na piers ng lrt north extension eh mukhang malayo ang gap ng mga piers compare sa existing piers sa taft and avenida..

Ummm, tinipid kaya o sadyang ganun talaga ang disenyo at plano...?:nuts:

Protesters bat for 1 more LRT stop (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/metro/view/20081104-170088/Protesters-bat-for-1-more-LRT-stop)
By Beverly T. Natividad
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 03:22:00 11/04/2008


MANILA, Philippines – Some 100 residents of Bagong Barrio, Caloocan City, Monday blocked the northbound lane of Edsa near Balintawak to dramatize their appeal to the Department of Transportation and Communications (DOTC).

The residents of Bagong Barrio – which is located between the North Luzon Expressway and Monumento – asked the DOTC to build one of the stations of the Light Rail Transit Line 1 near their area.

Under the LRT Line 1 north extension project, a 5.71-km elevated railway would be constructed to connect the LRT Monumento station to the North Avenue station of the Metro Rail Transit. The project is expected to be completed by 2010.

According to the protesters, who halted traffic on Edsa shortly before noon, they will not benefit from the LRT north extension project because the stations that will be built are far from their area.

Caloocan Mayor Enrico “Recom” Echiverri told Inquirer that the Bagong Barrio residents wanted the DOTC to implement their original plan for the LRT-MRT Loop.

According to him, the DOTC’s original plan called for the construction of LRT stations at Roosevelt, Balintawak and Bagong Barrio.

Under the current plan, however, only the Roosevelt and Balintawak stations will be retained.

Light Rail Transit Authority Administrator Mel Robles, however, defended the agency’s decision.

“Studies show that Roosevelt and Balintawak would have the highest ridership. We are in the business of moving people. Where there is high density, we will go there,” Robles told Inquirer.

A station, he said, costs around P800 million to build “which is why we need to put it up where it could be most profitable. We need to base that decision on a study, not on politics.”

MANILA, Philippines - Four construction employees working at an excavation site for the Metro Rail Transit (MRT) in Caloocan City were arrested because their operation allegedly does not have permission from the local government...


http://www.gmanews.tv/story/131336/4-MRT-workers-nabbed-for-road-digging-in-Caloocan

Local datu-datuhans brandishing their power once again :nuts:

:nuts: 4 MRT workers nabbed for road digging in Caloocan
BY MARK MERUEÑAS, GMANews.TV
11/04/2008 | 09:07 PM

Email this | Email the Editor | Print | Digg this | Add to del.icio.us MANILA, Philippines - Four construction employees working at an excavation site for the Metro Rail Transit (MRT) in Caloocan City were arrested because their operation allegedly does not have permission from the local government.

The Caloocan City police identified the arrested workers as Joseph Acosta, 22 pf Pangasinan; Ronnie Rapiza, 35 of Rizal; Alvin Soriano, 23 of Pangasinan; and Marvin Acosta, 27 of Pangasinan.

The four were arrested at 3 p.m. of Monday while working at a construction site for the expansion project of the MRT along Epifanio delos Santos Avenue and Malvar Street in Bagong Barrio village in Caloocan.

They were employees of the First Balfour Construction, the company supposedly contracted by the MRT management to conduct excavation in the area.

“The four men were spotted digging [at the site] and were directed to stop operations for lack of permit," the police said.

Police Officer 2 Marcelino Amin told GMANews.TV in an interview that the four men reportedly hurled “defamatory remarks" against the arresting officers.

Caloocan City Mayor Enrico “Recom" Echiveri has earlier urged the government to construct an intermediate station in the city as part of the P6.4–billion Light Rail Transit North Extension Project or the LRT-MRT Loop.

However, police officials quoted Alex Naduarata, traffic operations officer from the local government, as saying the current operation was not yet supported by a government permit.

The four were initially slapped late Monday night with complaints of direct assault and disobedience to agents and persons of authority.

After the fiscal dismissed the direct assault charge, policemen replaced that charge instead with malicious mischief.

A total of P4,000 bail has already been set for both charges - disobedience and malicious mischief.

The twin charges would have to be raffled off Monday next week at the Metropolitan Trial Court, according to Amin.

Noel Antoniano, representing the MRT and Balfour, dropped by the Caloocan City police Tuesday morning to check on their four employees.

If Antoniano could produce the necessary documents by Wednesday, the four workers could be released on bail on the same day, according to Amin. - GMANews.TV

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Haaay... Ano ba naman yan...?! Hindi malinaw kung ano talaga ang plano sa LRT-1 north extension project, pati tuloy mga walang kamuwang-muwang na manggagawa na napag-utusan lang ay napapahamak...:ohno:

Baka kaya hinuli gawa ayaw ng DOTC na magkaron ng station sa Bagong Barrio? Anu ba yan, massively delayed na nga yung interconnection project tapos hahaluan pa ng pulitika. Hay nku

Ummm, tinipid kaya o sadyang ganun talaga ang disenyo at plano...?:nuts:

Meron akong naobserbahan noon sa Singapore(February 2001) na may existing na MRT Station, East to West line ito.
Itong Buono Vista Station na malapit sa Science Park ay magkasunod lamang sila nitong Clementi Station pero nagawan ng paraan na magkaroon nga ng istasyon sa pagitan nito. At ito na yung Dover Station.
Ginagawa pa lang ito noong makita ko at hindi ko pa alam na isa pa palang istasyon.Ang galing nga eh.

Meron akong naobserbahan noon sa Singapore(February 2001) na may existing na MRT Station, East to West line ito.
Itong Buono Vista Station na malapit sa Science Park ay magkasunod lamang sila nitong Clementi Station pero nagawan ng paraan na magkaroon nga ng istasyon sa pagitan nito. At ito na yung Dover Station.
Ginagawa pa lang ito noong makita ko at hindi ko pa alam na isa pa palang istasyon.Ang galing nga eh.

Hay buti pa sa Singapore, galing!:okay:

Eh dito, proyekto ng LRT-1 north extension, tila nagkakadugasan, mga istasyon nito pinupulitika pa, parang nangyayari din sa MRT-3, angkinan na ng mga istasyon ayon sa nasasakupan, tsk tsk tsk...:ohno:

Magallanes MRT Station
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3004/2993880599_4d98feac95_b.jpg

http://www.gmanews.tv/story/131336/4-MRT-workers-nabbed-for-road-digging-in-Caloocan

Local datu-datuhans brandishing their power once again :nuts:

ITO isa pa...

MRT stations dispute brought to CA

By DJ Yap
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 01:06:00 11/05/2008

MANILA, Philippines – After placing three Metro Rail Transit stations in the name of the Mandaluyong City government, a lower court judge has elevated to the Court of Appeals the records of the ongoing legal dispute over ownership of the three stations.

Judge Carlos Valenzuela of Mandaluyong Regional Trial Court Branch 213 ordered the original records of the case to be brought to the appellate court following a notice of appeal filed by MRT Corp., the private operator of the overhead railway system.

The MRT Corp., through the Suarez and Narvasa Law Firm, earlier indicated it would seek the reversal of the Oct. 22 writ of possession issued by Valenzuela placing the MRT’s Boni, Shaw and Ortigas Stations in the name of the city government.

The three stations are all located on Edsa in Mandaluyong City.

“Wherefore, let the entire original records of this case be elevated to the Court of Appeals for further processing of the instant appeal,” Valenzuela said in an Oct. 27 order.

In a related development, the branch sheriff, Gerardo Umali, said in an Oct. 29 report to Valenzuela that the writ of possession had been served on MRT Corp. and other parties concerned.

On Oct. 22, the Mandaluyong City government claimed ownership of the three stations on the strength of Valenzuela’s writ, saying it now had authority to demand rent from MRT Corp. and to collect taxes from firms owning commercial booths and advertising billboards at the stations.

In the writ, Valenzuela commanded the branch sheriff to place the Mandaluyong government in possession of real properties representing the three MRT stations covered under tax declaration No. D-013-10636.

He also directed court sheriff Gerardo Umali to “eject the Metro Rail Transit Corp. and all persons or entities claiming rights under it who are physically occupying the same.”

But Mayor Benhur Abalos assured the public that the city government would neither intervene in the technical operations of the MRT trains nor initiate moves that might drive up train fares.

“What we’re after is the right of the local governments to collect taxes from commercial booths and advertising firms, “ he said earlier. “We can also collect rent from MRT.”

Abalos said MRT Corp. still owes the city P2 billion in real property taxes.


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Echiverri , Abalos ? What is happening? wow ah... mas pinapabagal nyo development ng railways... puwede ba... ang EDSA ay dapat right of way ng government... bidabidahan naman eh... Maam Arroyo.. please let them shut up... Benhur and Echiverri vs the Philippines? seesh...

LRTA thumbs down additional station in Caloocan

Wednesday, November 5, 2008
Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA) Administrator Melquiades Robles said yesterday a proposal to build an additional station in Caloocan City as part of the LRT-Metro Rail Transit (MRT) loop project was not viable.

He said the additional station sought by Caloocan City residents to be built along EDSA in the Bagong Barrio area does not have a projected ridership to support the operations of the additional rail station, which would add P800 million to the P6.4-billion project.

“A study previously undertaken before the project was designed and bidded out showed that it would only result in losses of P200 million a year,” Robles said.

He added that building an additional station would involve a costly and time-consuming redesign of the project.

“This project is a priority project of President Arroyo and we are mindful of attaining our project completion target so redesigning and looking for additional funds to finance the added costs would drastically affect our time schedules,” Robles pointed out.

Robles issued the statement after a reported 2,000 residents from Bagong Barrio staged a rally along EDSA in Caloocan City Monday urging the national government to put up an intermediary LRT station in the area.

The loop project entails the construction of three stations from Monumento in Caloocan City and North Avenue in Quezon City that would connect the LRT Line 1 and the MRT. – Rainier Allan Ronda

http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Metro&p=49&type=2&sec=26&aid=2008110496

Anyone knows saan lalagay yung North Ave. Station? A far it will be from the MRT North Ave. Station? Matutuloy ba yung SM Station that will share station with SM line?

It's quite ironic na may nagclaclamor to build bagong barrio station na siguradong mmedyo madami sasakay while itinayo ang santolan station ng MRT-3 na onti or halos walng sumasakay.

But then again para siyang ice breaker for the long distance between ortigas and cubao station (pero sana nilipat na lang nila sa may ortigas ave. area)

Anyone knows saan lalagay yung North Ave. Station? A far it will be from the MRT North Ave. Station? Matutuloy ba yung SM Station that will share station with SM line?
In my point of view sa tabi sya ng TriNoma-Hypermarket sa tabi ng turnaround ng MRT3.
I saw them surverying the area a few months ago...but now...
The construction ends near the Sky Garden park of SM North Edsa just near the intersection of EDSA and North/West Avenue.

At pag hindi feasible and station, wag na ipilit, my goodness, a protest is not the solution, the answer is NOT to ride the line, period, same revenues, less expenditures, :D

bakit ba ang LRT 2 stations maganda, ang MRT mukhang luma. nanlilimahid na:nuts::lol:

sana lahat ng susunod na MRT/LRT projects eh modern tignan at malinis.:) (parang LRT o mas maganda pa)

bakit ba ang LRT 2 stations maganda, ang MRT mukhang luma. nanlilimahid na:nuts::lol:

sana lahat ng susunod na MRT/LRT projects eh modern tignan at malinis.:) (parang LRT o mas maganda pa)
1. LRT-2 is mas bago
2. MRT-3 is congested, laspag, overused (specially North Avenue Station, morning rush)
3. MRT-3 is on top of the polluted EDSA
4. LRT-2 is silver in color, camouflages the alikabok color, MRT-3 is flesh, kitang kita ang dumi..

In my point of view sa tabi sya ng TriNoma-Hypermarket sa tabi ng turnaround ng MRT3.
I saw them surverying the area a few months ago...but now...
The construction ends near the Sky Garden park of SM North Edsa just near the intersection of EDSA and North/West Avenue.

At pag hindi feasible and station, wag na ipilit, my goodness, a protest is not the solution, the answer is NOT to ride the line, period, same revenues, less expenditures, :D

Kung ganon, I think yun na rin yung terminus ng SM line. Kaya lang, ang layo nito sa MRT North Ave Station.

nakakatulong ba talaga LRT sa pag-unlad ng bayan? ano nga ba naitulong LRT 1 after almost 30 yrs of existence? Nung nagpunta ako sa Monumento...walang effect eh...pumangit nga yung lugar...at tsaka halos lahat ng LRT Stations, parang yung katulad ng nakikita sa movies na tinitirahan ng goblins, grimlins and other monsters...gusto nyo ba itransform buong metro manila na maging ganyan? Aurora BLVD and EDSA, ganun na rin nangyayari...kaya utang na loob...hwag nyo nang pagara[ping magpagawa ng mga ganyan dahil di nyo kayang imaintain at di kaya ng inyong abilidad at isipan

nakakatulong ba talaga LRT sa pag-unlad ng bayan? ano nga ba naitulong LRT 1 after almost 30 yrs of existence? Nung nagpunta ako sa Monumento...walang effect eh...pumangit nga yung lugar...at tsaka halos lahat ng LRT Stations, parang yung katulad ng nakikita sa movies na tinitirahan ng goblins, grimlins and other monsters...gusto nyo ba itransform buong metro manila na maging ganyan? Aurora BLVD and EDSA, ganun na rin nangyayari...kaya utang na loob...hwag nyo nang pagara[ping magpagawa ng mga ganyan dahil di nyo kayang imaintain at di kaya ng inyong abilidad at isipan

Ha:ohno:?!?!?!?

nakakatulong ba talaga LRT sa pag-unlad ng bayan? ano nga ba naitulong LRT 1 after almost 30 yrs of existence? Nung nagpunta ako sa Monumento...walang effect eh...pumangit nga yung lugar...at tsaka halos lahat ng LRT Stations, parang yung katulad ng nakikita sa movies na tinitirahan ng goblins, grimlins and other monsters...gusto nyo ba itransform buong metro manila na maging ganyan? Aurora BLVD and EDSA, ganun na rin nangyayari...kaya utang na loob...hwag nyo nang pagara[ping magpagawa ng mga ganyan dahil di nyo kayang imaintain at di kaya ng inyong abilidad at isipan

??????????????????

mass transportation bottom line, better transportation systems for the masses ...

atsaka you should have gone through all stations before laying your claims medyo negative kasi yung connotation, medyo exaggerated ...

may point din medyo madumi nga tignan kasi mababa yung elevation ng LRT 1 (bad planning) kaya mas tinaasan nila elevation ng LRT 2 (at mas malinis tignan, madilim nga lang sa aurora blvd , kulang ng lighting sa ilalim na parang semi tunnel na ang labas)

atsaka di lang naman sa pinas may elevated railway ... utang na loob din!, pinoy kami lahat dito... dont be so obscure. we have the ability... :bash: :ohno: lame

From Universal LRT Corp. website:

timetable for MRT 7, tagal pa...Jan. 2010 start of construction, finish in July 2013

http://www.ulc.com.ph/Schedule.html

^^ Whoa nice train in the website.

Someone please try to argue our point of view, in a civil way, to this poor soul, because i have been rendered speechless by the content of this post.

The MRT serves close to 400,000 commuters a day. Imagine EDSA without MRT. Would EDSA look more aesthetically pleasing with an additional 400,000 commuters to the current users of EDSA today???? One cannot fathom such a scenario.

Perhaps it would be more aesthetically pleasing to have our railsystem underground. But money is an issue and certainly Goblins, Gremlins, and Monsters (oh my!) are more likely to dwell in such dark places.


nakakatulong ba talaga LRT sa pag-unlad ng bayan? ano nga ba naitulong LRT 1 after almost 30 yrs of existence? Nung nagpunta ako sa Monumento...walang effect eh...pumangit nga yung lugar...at tsaka halos lahat ng LRT Stations, parang yung katulad ng nakikita sa movies na tinitirahan ng goblins, grimlins and other monsters...gusto nyo ba itransform buong metro manila na maging ganyan? Aurora BLVD and EDSA, ganun na rin nangyayari...kaya utang na loob...hwag nyo nang pagara[ping magpagawa ng mga ganyan dahil di nyo kayang imaintain at di kaya ng inyong abilidad at isipan

From Universal LRT Corp. website:

timetable for MRT 7, tagal pa...Jan. 2010 start of construction, finish in July 2013

thanks for the site. I think it would be in the best interest of the government to get this project flying NOW to cushion the effects of a slowing economy.

Someone please try to argue our point of view, in a civil way, to this poor soul, because i have been rendered speechless by the content of this post.

The MRT serves close to 400,000 commuters a day. Imagine EDSA without MRT. Would EDSA look more aesthetically pleasing with an additional 400,000 commuters to the current users of EDSA today???? One cannot fathom such a scenario.

Perhaps it would be more aesthetically pleasing to have our railsystem underground. But money is an issue and certainly Goblins, Gremlins, and Monsters (oh my!) are more likely to dwell in such dark places.

naku please huwag nyo nang pagaksayahan ng panahon yan... pati ang pangasinan province thread ginulo rin niya, and if i'm not mistaken pati ata PNR thread sinita rin niya...:ohno: :bash:

It's quite ironic na may nagclaclamor to build bagong barrio station na siguradong mmedyo madami sasakay while itinayo ang santolan station ng MRT-3 na onti or halos walng sumasakay.

But then again para siyang ice breaker for the long distance between ortigas and cubao station (pero sana nilipat na lang nila sa may ortigas ave. area)

BOT naman kasi ang MRT unlike LRT pera ng bayan gagastusin. Tama ka dun kukunti lang talaga napag sisilbihan ng Santolan Station, dapat nga di na tinayo un kasi IMO lugi ang MRT sa station na iyon, pero since ung consotorium naman gumastos dun medyo ok lang.

^^ Whoa nice train in the website.

Yeah, nice trains but they look like the ones in LRT2, di ba?

http://www.lrta.gov.ph/press_release/pressphotos/060309_3rdGenLRVMockup01.jpg

guys, I'm curious...are the new 3G trains in LRT 1 more spacious than 2G coaches and are they compatible with MRT3? I have yet to ride the 3G train....

nakakatulong ba talaga LRT sa pag-unlad ng bayan? ano nga ba naitulong LRT 1 after almost 30 yrs of existence? Nung nagpunta ako sa Monumento...walang effect eh...pumangit nga yung lugar...at tsaka halos lahat ng LRT Stations, parang yung katulad ng nakikita sa movies na tinitirahan ng goblins, grimlins and other monsters...gusto nyo ba itransform buong metro manila na maging ganyan? Aurora BLVD and EDSA, ganun na rin nangyayari...kaya utang na loob...hwag nyo nang pagara[ping magpagawa ng mga ganyan dahil di nyo kayang imaintain at di kaya ng inyong abilidad at isipan

Well most probably medyo correct ka sa unang highlighted words. Pero sa pangalawa, ummmh medyo masama yata ang tama. Kung ang pinatatamaan mo eh mga pinoy na kagaya mo, then kulang ka rin sa abilidad at isipan.

Maraming maitutulong ang MRT/LRT, siguro hindi ka sumasakay kaya hindi mo alam. Eto ha sabihin ko sa yo ha,

Time Management- kung mag commute ka using PUV, Taxi, malamang malelate ka sa mga appointments mo dahil sa sobrang traffic. Ano ang gagawin mo? eh di aagahan mo ang gising, magko-commute ka ng mas maaga ng 2 or 3 hours sa appointment mo para makarating ka o time. Kung marami tayong MRT/LRT, siguro sasakay ka mga 1 hr before ng appointment mo. So, can you imagine ano pa ang magagawa mo ng 2 hours? marami di ba? magiging productive ka pa. Mama-manage mo ng mabuti ang time mo.

Fare- di ba mas mura yata ang MRT/LRT kesa sa Bus, Taxi/FX? O may pangmeryenda ka pa.

Exercise - Malalayo kasi ang mga stations kaya kailangan mo maglakad. oh eh di naexercise k pa di ba?

Green environment - kung marami ang MRT/LRT, kokonti na lang ang gagamit ng mga fuel based vehicles. magiging less ang air pollution. Aba, makakatulong pa sa iyo yan, dahil magiging fresh na ang hangin na malalanghap mo. Hahaba pa ang buhay mo.

Jobs, and more Jobs - From construction to operations to maintenance to admin jobs etc. Imagine kung ilang pinoy ang mabibigyan ng trabaho? Hindi lang yun, puede ka maglagay ng mga kiosk sa every stations, mag-gegenerate pa ito ng negosyo sa class B and C na pinoy di ba?

Wow, I cannot imagine why you sounded like that, maybe ikaw lang ang may "di kaya ng iyong abilidad at isipan". Tsk, tsk, tsk, kawawa ka naman.

naku please huwag nyo nang pagaksayahan ng panahon yan... pati ang pangasinan province thread ginulo rin niya, and if i'm not mistaken pati ata PNR thread sinita rin niya...:ohno: :bash:

oo pala new user lang.. yun ata purpose nya... kuto lang... garapata... kuhol sa ssc forums.. hahaha

ah so papansin lang siguro, ... taga opposition siguro or pinoy na hilaw... no sense of patriotism... walang balls... tsktsk... ayan ha... PATOLA ka... bananas... hahaha obscure///

ayan ... lahat na kaaway mo (bcl4whatever : overtly pessimistic "where have you been" pretending to be blind native of the Philippines)

oo pala new user lang.. yun ata purpose nya... kuto lang... garapata... kuhol sa ssc forums.. hahaha

ah so papansin lang siguro, ... taga opposition siguro or pinoy na hilaw... no sense of patriotism... walang balls... tsktsk... ayan ha... PATOLA ka... bananas... hahaha obscure///

ayan ... lahat na kaaway mo (bcl4whatever : overtly pessimistic "where have you been" pretending to be blind native of the Philippines)

Yup, hay..., nakakalungkot talaga siya...:ohno:

OT

We cant avoid it... Flamers and Trollers are anywhere.... halos lahat ng forums napasok ko nan dun sila... :ohno:

baka naman taga province sya... kasi ang alam ko naiinis sila na puro metro and mega manila lang nabubuhos ang national budget.

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itong huling picture, nakita ko kasi yung mataas na building sa dulo kaya ko kinuhaan.
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nice!

Sana maimprove yung lugar na iyan. Yung mga squatters dyan create an eye sore. I wonder what is the government's plan with that old Bilibid Prison. Sana gawin nalang transportation hub or kaya park. We need green on that area.

LRT/MRT is not really for Filipinos, binibigyan nyo lang mga tao ng dahilan na kumati paa at magbabad sa labas...nakakatawa...walng naitulong yan..lalo lalo lang kumati paa ng mga tao dahil dyan...alisin nyo na lang para at least gumanda kapaligiran at di na gaano gumastos mga tao at makapagtipid sila at maka-ipon para gamitin sa mas makabuluhang proyekto at pakinabangan ng nakakadami. tutal 30 at 12 yrs nata yung dalawa di ba...gibain nyo lang

Yup, hay..., nakakalungkot talaga siya...:ohno:
mas nakakalungkot ang inyong madilim na pananaw para sa bayan...kayo pa naman inaasahan na magtatanggol sa kapakanan ng mas nakakarami...siguro dahil talagang mga may konting abilidad ang at may mababaw na pang-unawa ang mas nabibigyan ng pagkakataon sa ngayon...

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itong huling picture, nakita ko kasi yung mataas na building sa dulo kaya ko kinuhaan.
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subrang habang footbridge naman nya...grabeh...katawa-tawa talaga...gawa yan ng may mababang-pan-unawa

So kung ganoon ang iyong pananaw, maaari ka bang magbigay ng suhestyon kung papaano maiaangat ang antas ng kalidad ng mass transportation sa Kamaynilaan?

Dahil sa palagay ko ang sektor ng transportasyon ay kritikal sa lahat ng mga lungsod o metropolitan areas sa buong mundo. At kadalasan, ang gumagamit ng mass transportation ay ang mga nagtatrabaho at nag-aaral at hindi lamang sa simpleng rason ng pamamasyal.

Ano ang maipapayo mo nang sa gayon eh mapaunlad natin ang sektor ng transportasyon?

subrang habang footbridge naman nya...grabeh...katawa-tawa talaga...gawa yan ng may mababang-pan-unawa

sa tingin ko naman...mas ok 'to...it promotes healthy lifestyle... matututo ang tao na maglakad:D ok naman ang mga footbridge sa bansa dahil halos lahat ay may cover...especially sa Makati

LRT/MRT is not really for Filipinos, binibigyan nyo lang mga tao ng dahilan na kumati paa at magbabad sa labas...nakakatawa...walng naitulong yan..lalo lalo lang kumati paa ng mga tao dahil dyan...alisin nyo na lang para at least gumanda kapaligiran at di na gaano gumastos mga tao at makapagtipid sila at maka-ipon para gamitin sa mas makabuluhang proyekto at pakinabangan ng nakakadami. tutal 30 at 12 yrs nata yung dalawa di ba...gibain nyo lang

eto lang ang sagot ko.... India's capital MRT. Sana matalino ka para alam mo
ang ibig kong sabihin. We need more MRT, LRT, modern railways para di
tayo mapag iwanan. Get out and have a life.

Super Clean Delhi Metro Station

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Source: Dog5011

ayan sa New Delhi, ang ganda ng platform, may barrier.
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HT

nakakatulong ba talaga LRT sa pag-unlad ng bayan? ano nga ba naitulong LRT 1 after almost 30 yrs of existence? Nung nagpunta ako sa Monumento...walang effect eh...pumangit nga yung lugar...at tsaka halos lahat ng LRT Stations, parang yung katulad ng nakikita sa movies na tinitirahan ng goblins, grimlins and other monsters...gusto nyo ba itransform buong metro manila na maging ganyan? Aurora BLVD and EDSA, ganun na rin nangyayari...kaya utang na loob...hwag nyo nang pagara[ping magpagawa ng mga ganyan dahil di nyo kayang imaintain at di kaya ng inyong abilidad at isipan

Ano kaya masasabi mo sa NYC station na to? hahaha....

Exactly ! NY subway stations are horrible. In most places, even the concrete has come off, and the underlying steel can be seen. They're also one of the hottest and most suffocating places that you can see.

http://vijayvmail.googlepages.com/IMG_0042_1.JPG
This is the roof of a new york subway station.

Yup, hay..., nakakalungkot talaga siya...:ohno:

So kung ganoon ang iyong pananaw, maaari ka bang magbigay ng suhestyon kung papaano maiaangat ang antas ng kalidad ng mass transportation sa Kamaynilaan?

Dahil sa palagay ko ang sektor ng transportasyon ay kritikal sa lahat ng mga lungsod o metropolitan areas sa buong mundo. At kadalasan, ang gumagamit ng mass transportation ay ang mga nagtatrabaho at nag-aaral at hindi lamang sa simpleng rason ng pamamasyal.

Ano ang maipapayo mo nang sa gayon eh mapaunlad natin ang sektor ng transportasyon?High-blood na naman kayo.

I suggest that you just ignore this kind of posts.

LRT/MRT is not really for Filipinos, binibigyan nyo lang mga tao ng dahilan na kumati paa at magbabad sa labas...nakakatawa...walng naitulong yan..lalo lalo lang kumati paa ng mga tao dahil dyan...alisin nyo na lang para at least gumanda kapaligiran at di na gaano gumastos mga tao at makapagtipid sila at maka-ipon para gamitin sa mas makabuluhang proyekto at pakinabangan ng nakakadami. tutal 30 at 12 yrs nata yung dalawa di ba...gibain nyo lang

mas nakakalungkot ang inyong madilim na pananaw para sa bayan...kayo pa naman inaasahan na magtatanggol sa kapakanan ng mas nakakarami...siguro dahil talagang mga may konting abilidad ang at may mababaw na pang-unawa ang mas nabibigyan ng pagkakataon sa ngayon...Uhm... You didn't even bother to explain how people could "save" a lot by not having those Metro Line.

And besides, as you can see clearly from the title, this is a thread for the advocacy, existence and promotion of LRT's and MRT's as a tool for national progress not only in MM but in the whole country as well. If you don't agree with that, you can always leave.

^^ haay buti naman nandito na kayo at nabasa nyo na rin ang mga pinagsasabi niya..:banana: :lol:

kakapunta ko lang sa subway thread sa kabilang forum. grabe. sobrang ganda. I don't see any reason para hindi sumabay ang pilipinas sa mga ganoong klaseng transportation system.

mas nakakalungkot ang inyong madilim na pananaw para sa bayan...kayo pa naman inaasahan na magtatanggol sa kapakanan ng mas nakakarami...siguro dahil talagang mga may konting abilidad ang at may mababaw na pang-unawa ang mas nabibigyan ng pagkakataon sa ngayon...

siguro BIG TIME bus operator ka .. alam mo mamatay ang business pag dumami ang mga train... logical reason... ayaw mo ng tren siguro kasi madami kang kotse, bus, tricycle, etc...

at pati ba naman paglalakad ng mga tao pinuna mo pa? sa japan nga lahat ng tao halos mula sa mga train station naglalakad sila pauwi sa bahay nila o nagbibike. mas malayo pang lakaran kaysa sa bridge ng lrt 1 and lrt 2. anyway maniniwala akong wala kaming abilidad kung napatunayan mo with all the technical stuff and research that you are really deserving to even call us those names... so obscure... alam mo yun papansin ... epal... one big suggestion , hater ka masyado create your own domain or website start your forums, anti-advocacy... makes me really think you are not FILIPINO, you are just some idiot posing to be one... so lame... no balls...

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what the...
ang ganda!!! wala na akong masabi pa, hahaha

ways to improve the lrt1 to lrt2 link:
1. Cover up the windows with glass
2. add airconditioner system
3.add 1 or 2 walk-a-lators
4.add a small police counter inside the structure.
5.Add some advertisements and plants to make the place a little more cheery...
6.add some stereospeakers to the ceiling for good music.
7.etc..

^^
8. Get rid of the illegal settlements altogether.

LRT Line 2 briefly stops operations (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/metro/view/20081107-170865/LRT-Line-2-briefly-stops-operations)
By Abigail Kwok
INQUIRER.net
First Posted 18:01:00 11/07/2008


MANILA, Philippines—Operations of the Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA) Line 2 were suspended for 22 minutes Friday afternoon after a technical problem occurred in one of its cars, an official said.

In a phone interview, Maria Kristina Cassion, public relations chief of LRTA, said the incident occurred from 4:45 p.m. to 5:12 p.m. when a problem called “panto collision” occurred in Train Set 13.

The train was bound for Santolan when it was hit by the “panto collision,” a condition when a train loses energy, leading to pressure loss. The train was forced to stop in Katipunan station.

Normal operations have now resumed, Cassion said.

ways to improve the lrt1 to lrt2 link:
1. Cover up the windows with glass
2. add airconditioner system
3.add 1 or 2 walk-a-lators
4.add a small police counter inside the structure.
5.Add some advertisements and plants to make the place a little more cheery...
6.add some stereospeakers to the ceiling for good music.
7.etc..

LETS WALK FOR HEALTH... LA PANG 500 meters yun

suggestion lang :banana:

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itong huling picture, nakita ko kasi yung mataas na building sa dulo kaya ko kinuhaan.
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Continuation:

LRT 1 EDSA Station to MRT Taft Station Link - FOOTBRIDGE


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November 5,2008 Wednesday past 2pm

^^
Napansin ko lang, yung quoted series of pictures, kamukha rin ng sa overpass ng LRT-2 Santolan terminal station:)

LRT/MRT is not really for Filipinos, binibigyan nyo lang mga tao ng dahilan na kumati paa at magbabad sa labas...nakakatawa...walng naitulong yan..lalo lalo lang kumati paa ng mga tao dahil dyan...alisin nyo na lang para at least gumanda kapaligiran at di na gaano gumastos mga tao at makapagtipid sila at maka-ipon para gamitin sa mas makabuluhang proyekto at pakinabangan ng nakakadami. tutal 30 at 12 yrs nata yung dalawa di ba...gibain nyo lang


sinisira nya ang kagandahan nang section na ito ng ssc. :bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash:
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uminom ka muna bka matauhan ka
:cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers:
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sinisira nya ang kagandahan nang section na ito ng ssc. :bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash:
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uminom ka muna bka matauhan ka
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Originally Posted by bcl4me
LRT/MRT is not really for Filipinos, binibigyan nyo lang mga tao ng dahilan na kumati paa at magbabad sa labas...nakakatawa...walng naitulong yan..lalo lalo lang kumati paa ng mga tao dahil dyan...alisin nyo na lang para at least gumanda kapaligiran at di na gaano gumastos mga tao at makapagtipid sila at maka-ipon para gamitin sa mas makabuluhang proyekto at pakinabangan ng nakakadami. tutal 30 at 12 yrs nata yung dalawa di ba...gibain nyo lang


bcl4me ..... Lasing ka lang... Uwi na tayo... Lakad na lang...Hik..Hik...:cheers:
:cheers:
:lol:
:cheers:
:lol:

^^^^
Huwaaat!
Hindi makatotohanan ang kanyang pahayag, pampagulo lang...:ohno::ohno::ohno:

Sana maimprove yung lugar na iyan. Yung mga squatters dyan create an eye sore. I wonder what is the government's plan with that old Bilibid Prison. Sana gawin nalang transportation hub or kaya park. We need green on that area.

mukhang di na yan maaayos. May nakita nga ako dyan na nagsesex sa mga squatters area in broad daylight eh.

Kelangan na idemolish yang area na yan talaga.

^^Well done talaga MMDA on that footbridge,I hope it's disabled friendly too.Although I would have preferred gray color for it as to make it neutral color.Nonetheless it's another job done.Palakpakan!:banana:

mukhang di na yan maaayos. May nakita nga ako dyan na nagsesex sa mga squatters area in broad daylight eh.

Kelangan na idemolish yang area na yan talaga.

In broad daylight???? :lol: exhibitionists siguro :lol:

Ang yayaman pala ng mga taga MNL, LV ang mga payong. :colgate:

one way scheme pa rin ba ang taft station?

kakaasar di ko masakyan ung bagong LRT1..hai..laging ung luma ang tyempo ko..hai..

^^ bcl4me

Anong pong pumangit sa Monumento? Wala naman po a... mas maganda nga po may LRT at MRT kasi yung 2 oras na tinatagal po ng bus sa EDSA ay nagiging 30 minuto lang sa MRT... sa tingin ko po malaking tulong talaga ang MRT at LRT lalo na sa mga commuters na kagaya ko, araw-araw... imbis na mag-init ang ulo sa traffic...

Mula Taft Avenue hanggang North Avenue...
MRT= 30-45 minutes
Bus= 2-3 hours

We need to finish all infrastructures here in this country both under construction and still in the drawing board... para rin po ito sa ikabubuti natin...

naku please huwag nyo nang pagaksayahan ng panahon yan... pati ang pangasinan province thread ginulo rin niya, and if i'm not mistaken pati ata PNR thread sinita rin niya...:ohno: :bash:

Sinita na nga po niya... buti hindi pa po nagagalaw ang NE Thread...

LRT/MRT is not really for Filipinos, binibigyan nyo lang mga tao ng dahilan na kumati paa at magbabad sa labas...nakakatawa...walng naitulong yan..lalo lalo lang kumati paa ng mga tao dahil dyan...alisin nyo na lang para at least gumanda kapaligiran at di na gaano gumastos mga tao at makapagtipid sila at maka-ipon para gamitin sa mas makabuluhang proyekto at pakinabangan ng nakakadami. tutal 30 at 12 yrs nata yung dalawa di ba...gibain nyo lang

Pare mas maganda pasagasa ka na lang sa LRT para magising ka tulog ka ata eh! :bash::bash: may karapatan kang magsalita at magsabi ng ganyan pero kapwa mo pilipino ang tinatapakan mo at sa ikabubuti eto ng transportasyon para sa atin at karangalan ng bansa ang pinaguusapan dito kung wala ka naman maganda suhestyon o masasabi magbasa ka na lang.

^^ bcl4me

Anong pong pumangit sa Monumento? Wala naman po a... mas maganda nga po may LRT at MRT kasi yung 2 oras na tinatagal po ng bus sa EDSA ay nagiging 30 minuto lang sa MRT... sa tingin ko po malaking tulong talaga ang MRT at LRT lalo na sa mga commuters na kagaya ko, araw-araw... imbis na mag-init ang ulo sa traffic...

Mula Taft Avenue hanggang North Avenue...
MRT= 30-45 minutes
Bus= 2-3 hours

We need to finish all infrastructures here in this country both under construction and still in the drawing board... para rin po ito sa ikabubuti natin...

Yup, malaki talaga ang bawas sa travel time kapag sumakay sa MRT/LRT. Naalala ko tuloy yung isa kong kaklase, inabot ng mga 3 oras mula kaming SM Mall of Asia papunta siyang Muñoz sakay ng isang bus. Kami mga kalahating oras lang sakay ng MRT-3, nasa Quezon Avenue na kami. Para siyang umuwi ng probinsya, hehehe:lol:

Kaya malaki talaga ang naitutulong ng MRT/LRT sa mga pasahero:okay:

Ang kikay ng mga footbridge...PINK!

Urban rail transit, saves money for the people and government in the long run...so, just build it...

sa may recto yan ah yugn live show... sa walkway...

guys, nakita nyo naba recent progress sa lrt2 cubao station? ung 1/4 ng west bound side na ticket barrier papunta manila eh tinanggal.. in preparation ata para sa connection ng lrt2 sa Diamond Arcade.. papaano kaya ang flow nito? eh may nakaharang na stairs papunta sa platforms ..di ko mapicturan kasi sira phone cam ko, kaya sketch ko sa cad

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nakakatulong ba talaga LRT sa pag-unlad ng bayan? ano nga ba naitulong LRT 1 after almost 30 yrs of existence? Nung nagpunta ako sa Monumento...walang effect eh...pumangit nga yung lugar...at tsaka halos lahat ng LRT Stations, parang yung katulad ng nakikita sa movies na tinitirahan ng goblins, grimlins and other monsters...gusto nyo ba itransform buong metro manila na maging ganyan? Aurora BLVD and EDSA, ganun na rin nangyayari...kaya utang na loob...hwag nyo nang pagara[ping magpagawa ng mga ganyan dahil di nyo kayang imaintain at di kaya ng inyong abilidad at isipan

oi, alam mo ba sinasabi mo? ano gusto mo palabasin? at least nakakatulong sa mga tao etong mga transpo na ito, kesa ung PNR at northrail (ayun tulog nanaman).. sa tingin mo ba mas mabuti wla ang mga lrt, then fine.. sige gawin natin subway (underground lahat) basta ba magbayad ka ng tax mo sa bir kasi malaking budget ang pag gawa ng subway) o baka naman gusto mo mg calesa. madami dito sa binondo.

LRT/MRT is not really for Filipinos, binibigyan nyo lang mga tao ng dahilan na kumati paa at magbabad sa labas...nakakatawa...walng naitulong yan..lalo lalo lang kumati paa ng mga tao dahil dyan...alisin nyo na lang para at least gumanda kapaligiran at di na gaano gumastos mga tao at makapagtipid sila at maka-ipon para gamitin sa mas makabuluhang proyekto at pakinabangan ng nakakadami. tutal 30 at 12 yrs nata yung dalawa di ba...gibain nyo lang

lols... di ka talga mass commuter... for your info wla pang 12years ang MRT and also wla pa din 30 years in operation ang lrt1... Masyado ka ata GReenPeace ah... masyado ka conservative.. Pag nakita kita sa LRT itutulak kita sa riles pag may papalapit na tren, para magising ka.. Crab Minded noob!

dati ko pa napansin na parang may mali sa lrt2... dapat hindi sa aurora at sa espana dapat ang daan nya tapos enroute na lang sya to legarda after ng UST... kasi may grabe ang trapik sa espana compared sa aurora.

nakakatulong ba talaga LRT sa pag-unlad ng bayan? ano nga ba naitulong LRT 1 after almost 30 yrs of existence? Nung nagpunta ako sa Monumento...walang effect eh...pumangit nga yung lugar...at tsaka halos lahat ng LRT Stations, parang yung katulad ng nakikita sa movies na tinitirahan ng goblins, grimlins and other monsters...gusto nyo ba itransform buong metro manila na maging ganyan? Aurora BLVD and EDSA, ganun na rin nangyayari...kaya utang na loob...hwag nyo nang pagara[ping magpagawa ng mga ganyan dahil di nyo kayang imaintain at di kaya ng inyong abilidad at isipan

Well tingin ko sayo mukang may family or mahal ka sa buhay na gusto mong pigilan sa pag alis lagi. Wag mo idamay ang maraming PIlipino sa problema mo. Sarilihin mo yang problema mo pag wala kang nagawa dyan sa problema mo mahina kang tao. Maraming taong nababaliw men dahil sa mahinang pag iisip...

Wrong statements can be corrected but stupid statements can never be corrected.

What the ang tagal ko ng hindi nabibisita sa section na ito tapos meron pang asungot! Ayaw ko na sa nang mag-salita kaso high blood na ako sa sinabi nun!

Gaya ng sinabi ng mga kasamahan namin dito para maliwanagan ka.Marami ang naitutulong ng MRT at LRT sa buhay ng maraming Pilipino!

1.SAVE TIME
sa pagbibiyahe palang malaki na ang naitutulong.Sa akin palang nung nagwowork pa ako sa isang malaking hotel sa ermita ang laki na naitulong sa akin imbes na 6 hours ang biyahe ko uwian mula dito sa taytay,rizal kung saan sumasakay ako ng bus sa LRT 2-3 hours lang.

2.SAVE MONEY
mas matipid sa pamasahe

3.RELAXING
relax ka sa biyahe dahil comfortable ka nakaupo and aircon isama mo pa ang magandang view at hindi ka stress sa kakaisip dahil nag-hahabol ka sa oras

4.ENVIRONMENT FRIENDLY
electric power, mas mababawasan ang pag-gamit ng sasakyan na dahilan ng air pollution at pagkakamatay ng mga tao dahil sa pollution.

5.ATTRACT MORE INVESTMENT
investment sa mga company na iinvest malapit sa mga ito dahil sa advantage nito sa transportation.

6.CREATE MORE JOBS
para sa mga tao magwowork sa mga company na malapit dito at sa mismong operation nito.

7.TOURISM
para din sa mga turista nabibisita dito na gagamit nito para pumunta sa mga Tourist Spot at sight seeing sa mga magagandang tanawin along the track like Marikina Riverbank at yung mga skyline natin.

8.EDUCATION
para sa mga mag-aaral na gagamit nito papunta sa kanilang mga paaralan.Convinient sa kanila and make them more productive.Hindi lamang para sa kanila pati para sa bayan natin.

9.EDUACTION
mga poster at ilang mga billboard na nag-eeduacate sa atin katulad ng ginagawa ng Institution Cervantes nag popost ng mga tula o translation ng mga wikang Espanyol

10.INFORMATION
yung mga libreng newspaper and iba pang mga patalastas na nalapost sa mga MRT and LRT mas maramin ang nabibigyan ng information

11.KITA
kita na nakukuha ng Gov't na magagamit sa pagpondo ng ilang mga project.

mag-iisip ka lang kaibigan marami ka malalaman sa kahalagahan ng mga ito pero kung hindi mo bubuksan ang iyong isipin katulad ng mga ACTIVISTA at mga KOMUNISTA wala talagang mangyayari sa atin makukulong lang tayo sa nakaraan,sa kahirapan,sa himahinasyon na tayo ay sakop pa rin ng ibang bansa, na wala tayong kalayaan at marami pang iba!

I hope maiisip mo at maliwanagan ka kung bakit karamihan sa amin ay gusto ng mga ganitong mga proyekto dahil ito ang magdadala sa pag-unlad ng bayan,ng mga tao, kultura at iba pang aspeto ng buhay at lipunan natin!

Sorry medyo napahaba! Normal na ako at kalmado!hehehe

dati ko pa napansin na parang may mali sa lrt2... dapat hindi sa aurora at sa espana dapat ang daan nya tapos enroute na lang sya to legarda after ng UST... kasi may grabe ang trapik sa espana compared sa aurora.

baka may line na nakapropose na along espana
(katulad ng mrt4 na hindi naman natuloy dahil sa lrt7, tsktsk)
... kung ganyan after cubao sa e. rodriguez na magttraverse yung lrt2
tapos lusot na niya welcome rotonda, tama ba? hehe..

Well, it's pretty obvious that Metro Trains help people. It's quite ridiculous to say such.
The only downside to trains are the right of way and occupying road space, that's it, all in all it's very productive.

dati ko pa napansin na parang may mali sa lrt2... dapat hindi sa aurora at sa espana dapat ang daan nya tapos enroute na lang sya to legarda after ng UST... kasi may grabe ang trapik sa espana compared sa aurora.

Ummm, matindi rin naman ang trapik sa Aurora Boulevard nung wala pa ang LRT-2... Sa katunayan, kahit ngayon medyo nagta-trapik pa rin dito. Sa España, yup, grabe rin ang trapik dito tapos ang malala pa, matindi magbaha dito...
Yup, tulad ng nasabi ni evilgenius15, baka may proposed MRT/LRT line na diyan..., tapos yup, diretso siya ng E. Rodriguez, labas ng Welcome Rotonda hanggang España na... Yung isa pang naiisip ko ay manggagaling naman ng Quezon Ave connecting from MRT-7 sa underground station ng QC Circle:colgate:

Nice projects... But the view will definitely suffer and this is all done para lang ma decongest ang MM..

^^ okay lang, wala naman talagang magandang view :lol: yung MRT3, medyo okay ang view nya habang nakasakay ka sa tren...pero yung LRT1, sakit sa mata yung buong byahe hehe. di na nga ako dumudungaw sa bintana pag nag commute me dyan sa LRT1. :D

^^ okay lang, wala naman talagang magandang view :lol: yung MRT3, medyo okay ang view nya habang nakasakay ka sa tren...pero yung LRT1, sakit sa mata yung buong byahe hehe. di na nga ako dumudungaw sa bintana pag nag commute me dyan sa LRT1. :D

Sa aking ranking base sa view habang nakasakay: MRT-3 > LRT-2 > LRT-1:colgate:

view ba? hmmm... para sakin
LRT2 (bangin view, haha) > MRT 3 (typical look) > LRT 1 (puro building ang sa bintana) ako, heheh

Guys sumakay ako sa LRT 1 ganun ba talaga dun nag sspaghetti yung tren pagnatakbo?

view ba? hmmm... para sakin
LRT2 (bangin view, haha) > MRT 3 (typical look) > LRT 1 (puro building ang sa bintana) ako, heheh

Mula sa MRT-3 ang the best view sa akin kasi maraming dinadaanang mga bigating establishments from Taft to North Avenue at marami pang under constructions at upcoming projects along EDSA na dapat abangan:okay:

Tulad na lang ng nadarama kong excitement sa pagtatapos ng Eton Centris sa Quezon Avenue station ng MRT-3 at siyempre sa magiging view ng patapos ng mas pinatinding SM City North EDSA with the new Annex and the Sky Garden as you approach the North Avenue station of MRT-3:banana:

Pero overall para sa akin: LRT-2 > MRT-3 > LRT-1:colgate:

Guys sumakay ako sa LRT 1 ganun ba talaga dun nag sspaghetti yung tren pagnatakbo?

paanong spaghetti...? yung force sa loob o kung paano mo nakikita ang loob?

Rankings ba? Base sa aking paglalakbay sa tatlong tren ito, angg sa akin lang

LRT 2 Comfortable, Very secured, Malaki ang train, may time (yung "Next train to Recto in 3 mins")

LRT 1 Mabilis, mabilis din ang dating ng mga train nila, wag lang sasakay sa 2nd gen na train dahil Microwave oven ito

MRT 3 errr.... tao, tao, tao saka nakalimutan ko bang sabihin na masikip dito kahit hindi rush hour?, at isa pang nakakabwisit bakit ba sa North going south minsan naglalagpas sila ng 3 train kaya malelate ka talaga.

yun lang :D

^^
haha... gusto ko talaga ung 3G trains ng LRT1... astig...
hindi mo talaga maiisip na sobrang luma na ang lrt...
diba inaayos na rin yung mga stations nila?

Ang byaheng Santolan - Recto LRT2, kapag nasa V.Mapa Station papuntang Pureza, ito ang best view para sa MAKATI SKYLINE. Makikita mo talaga ang mga nagtataasang gusali mula Manila papuntang Rockwell hanggang sa Pioneer Mandaluyong.

Samantalang sa MRT naman, yung byaheng North bound, Quezon Avenue to North Avenue, makikita mo ang mga kolonya ng mga iskwater o kilala sa tawag na informal settler.

Ang byaheng Santolan - Recto LRT2, kapag nasa V.Mapa Station papuntang Pureza, ito ang best view para sa MAKATI SKYLINE. Makikita mo talaga ang mga nagtataasang gusali mula Manila papuntang Rockwell hanggang sa Pioneer Mandaluyong.

Samantalang sa MRT naman, yung byaheng North bound, Quezon Avenue to North Avenue, makikita mo ang mga kolonya ng mga iskwater o kilala sa tawag na informal settler.

Nakalimutan ko nga pala ang view ng Makati Skyline banda sa V. Mapa - Pureza station ng LRT-2. Lupit nun!:banana:

Yup, pero dapat na silang paalisin dun to give way for the QC-CBD:colgate:
Kaya mawawala din soon ang eye-sores, hehehe:lol:

^^ nice comparison, hahaha...

Rankings ba? Base sa aking paglalakbay sa tatlong tren ito, angg sa akin lang

LRT 2 Comfortable, Very secured, Malaki ang train, may time (yung "Next train to Recto in 3 mins")

LRT 1 Mabilis, mabilis din ang dating ng mga train nila, wag lang sasakay sa 2nd gen na train dahil Microwave oven ito

MRT 3 errr.... tao, tao, tao saka nakalimutan ko bang sabihin na masikip dito kahit hindi rush hour?, at isa pang nakakabwisit bakit ba sa North going south minsan naglalagpas sila ng 3 train kaya malelate ka talaga.

yun lang :D


skip train po yan.. kaya nila nilalagpas e para sa Q.avenue, Cubao ang mga trains na un.. madalas sa umaga un.. minsan sa hapon din.. Skip trains sla pag
madami ng tao sa platforms sa Cubao and Q.Ave. minsan sa Taft may skip trains din, pag madami tao sa Ayala.. kaya nla gnagawa ito para makasakay lahat ng tao sa platforms sa mga busy na stations, tska para makapasok ung mga na-stop entry...

tutuo ba na papahiram ng LRT 1 ang mga tren nila sa mrt3? wag naman sana ung mga 3G trains, baka masira lang... =( much better sana kung dumating na ung mga binili galing Austria na tren ng Mrt... lintik na Consortium ksi ng Ayala at Filestate yan e,, swapang e..

^^
haha... gusto ko talaga ung 3G trains ng LRT1... astig...
hindi mo talaga maiisip na sobrang luma na ang lrt...
diba inaayos na rin yung mga stations nila?

Inaayos nila :D Ginagawa na nilang semento imbes na metal na makakapal haha

^^Semento? Pwede pala yun sa track ng tren.

ang tinutukoy eh ung structure ata ng mga stations, hindi yung riles? hehe

^^OO nga hindi ko binasa kasi yung quoted:bash::lol:

Happy to report that I saw construction crews with huge boring equipment along edsa, cloverleaf area to be specific. Part of the road was closed off with construction crews and foreign engineers at the site. Also saw rolls of tensioning wires. I guess this project is really on!!!

Happy to report that I saw construction crews with huge boring equipment along edsa, cloverleaf area to be specific. Part of the road was closed off with construction crews and foreign engineers at the site. Also saw rolls of tensioning wires. I guess this project is really on!!!

sana go - go go na ang project ng north extension ng lrt1.. sana isunod na nila ung lrt2 east extension (masinag ) and west extension to divisoria as well as lrt1 south extension.

^^^^ Bro, lahatin na natin. Sana matupad naito:

http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/68/80/29660886/1_208055567l.jpg

:cheers:

^^^^^^^^^^^ lahat nang yan by 2100 pa mapapatayo...
sabi ko nga puro plano na naman :) be optimistic by being pessimistic hahaha
(at least matatayo) peace!

LA BANG nEWS dyan?

Happy to report that I saw construction crews with huge boring equipment along edsa, cloverleaf area to be specific. Part of the road was closed off with construction crews and foreign engineers at the site. Also saw rolls of tensioning wires. I guess this project is really on!!!

do you have photos? :)

^^ wah... sakto dadaan pala ako bagong barrio bukas, haha...

^^^^ Bro, lahatin na natin. Sana matupad naito:

http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/68/80/29660886/1_208055567l.jpg

:cheers:

Hmmm, parang lumang plano na ito ah, hehehe
Napansin ko kasing MRT-4 pa yung nakalagay sa linya from Bilibid Viejo hanggang Quirino Highway...
MRT-7 na yung pinalit na mula ng North Avenue hanggang San Jose del Monte City, Bulacan:colgate:
Tapos hindi pa included dito yung proposed LRT-2 East Line Extension Project at MRT-8:)

Kaya kung sa plano pa lang hindi na sila magkasundo o hindi nila magawang fixed yung mga i-ko-construct (kaya minsan tayo'y nagkakalito-lito...), talagang matatagalan pa bago makumpleto ang Rail Transit Network ng Mega Manila...:ohno:

ang ganda sana kung matupad yung plano. sana buhay pa ko kapag napatayo lahat to.

ang ganda sana kung matupad yung plano. sana buhay pa ko kapag napatayo lahat to.

Buhay ka pa at maging tayo kapag natupad iyan... yun nga lang, sa kabilang daigdig na...

^^Kayo nmn parang hindi nasanay... Maghintay kayo ng "2009" bago mag eleksyon. Pampabango pra sa voters yan para kay NOLI, administration kasi..^_^

^^^^ Bro, lahatin na natin. Sana matupad naito:

http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/68/80/29660886/1_208055567l.jpg

:cheers:
ano kaya magiging itsura ng metro manila pag natapos yan? isang gusgusin na nakakahabag na lugar? kawawa naman future generations na pinoys...wala silang say sa illetirates nilang ninunu

^^ okay ka lang?? a mass transit system is an important infrastructure ng isang malaking urban area gaya ng Manila. :bash:

ano kaya magiging itsura ng metro manila pag natapos yan? isang gusgusin na nakakahabag na lugar? kawawa naman future generations na pinoys...wala silang say sa illetirates nilang ninunu



yan ka na naman nakapaka-anti train mo... hahaha

pacute ka tlga hahaha :bash:

yan ka na naman nakapaka-anti train mo... hahaha

pacute ka tlga hahaha :bash:

^^ okay ka lang?? a mass transit system is an important infrastructure ng isang malaking urban area gaya ng Manila. :bash:

hahaha...ipag pasensiya na lang natin sya.....Di pa siya namulat sa katotohanan eh....
:bash:

Well, we can always take another perspective, one that is from people who are outside the NCR and not benefiting from the MRT or LRT. Given that these infra are intensive on investment requirements and given that these infra requires huge amounts usually coming from loans taken out from foreign funding institutions, that each Filipino taxpayer ends up paying for. Is it really prudent to concentrate such infra in MM?

Just something to tickle your minds, hehe. :)

^^ okay ka lang?? a mass transit system is an important infrastructure ng isang malaking urban area gaya ng Manila. :bash:

And Metro Manila is lucky enough to have one.

Magtanong lang, sa mga rail tracks sa transit system sa MM, mayroon ba middle tracks na ginagawa as express tracks para mabilis ang pagtransport sa mga pasaheros from point A to point B which skip about every 4 stations? Then reverse the direction of traffic in the afternoon rush to the outlaying areas.

Magtanong lang, sa mga rail tracks sa transit system sa MM, mayroon ba middle tracks na ginagawa as express tracks para mabilis ang pagtransport sa mga pasaheros from point A to point B which skip about every 4 stations? Then reverse the direction of traffic in the afternoon rush to the outlaying areas.

sadly wala... yung sa LRT - 2 Cubao may extra track ata dun puwedeng gawin ganun... like in Japan

LOCAL TRAIN : ALL STATIONS
SEMI-RAPID : parang 40-50% of all stations
RAPID : Point to point, or major stations only

EXPRESS : cheaper version ng Shinkansen
SHINKANSEN: bullet train , major stations only

ayun...

well sa bansa natin malabo pa mangyari to kasi mga extension nga
lines di pa magawa... atsaka puwede lang siguro sa Southrail and Northrail yung may "RAPID" kasi heavy rail ito. pag sa light rail baka di kayanin ang bilis ng train from point to point

sana sa atin din may TIME TABLE kung kailan darating ang mga train per station (like Japan) nakakatulong ito sa schedule ng mga tao, at per station naka display kung what exact time darating yun train at hindi lang ilang minutes pa ang aantayin.

Pay local taxes, Mandaluyong tells MRT

By DJ Yap
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 01:31am (Mla time) 11/13/2008

MANILA, Philippines – Mayor Benjamin “Benhur” Abalos Jr. has warned commercial shops at the three Metro Rail Transit stations in the city that they face a shutdown if they fail to pay taxes to the local government.

He said owners of establishments doing business at the MRT stations had been informed of their real property obligations to the city, following the issuance of a writ of possession placing the Boni, Shaw and Ortigas stations in the city’s name.

Abalos said some of the establishments had started inquiring about their tax dues, but he added he was not aware if payments had been made.

The mayor also reiterated his demand for MRT Corp., the private owner and operator of the facility, to pay the city taxes on improvements it had made on MRT property, an obligation he said the company had not settled for years.

On Oct. 22, Judge Carlos Valenzuela of the Mandaluyong Regional Trial Court Branch 213 issued a writ of possession placing the city government in possession of the three MRT stations covered under tax declaration No. D-013-10636.

The Mandaluyong government later said it was now authorized to demand rent from MRT Corp. and to collect taxes from firms that own commercial booths and advertise billboards at the stations.

The MRT Corp. said it would bring the case to the Court of Appeals. “They don’t have a temporary restraining order so the writ of possession remains in effect,” Abalos told Inquirer.

In the writ, Valenzuela directed court sheriff Gerardo Umali to “eject the Metro Rail Transit Corp. and all persons or entities claiming rights under it who are physically occupying the same.”

The city government said it would not intervene in MRT operations or start moves that could drive up train fares.:banana:

^^ takot lang nila kung ipapahinto ang operations ng MRT. They will experience the wrath of the commuters.... :)

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(yung the big thing... yung nakainstall na yellow tower at katabi nun na nasa letter A...)
:banana::banana::banana:

ano kaya magiging itsura ng metro manila pag natapos yan? isang gusgusin na nakakahabag na lugar? kawawa naman future generations na pinoys...wala silang say sa illetirates nilang ninunu

yan ka na naman nakapaka-anti train mo... hahaha

pacute ka tlga hahaha :bash:

^^ okay ka lang?? a mass transit system is an important infrastructure ng isang malaking urban area gaya ng Manila. :bash:

hahaha...ipag pasensiya na lang natin sya.....Di pa siya namulat sa katotohanan eh....
:bash:

Maganda kasing aral sa mga naka-witness kung ano ang LRT1?

^^ (bcl4me)
hay...
try mo magsit-in sa transportation engineering class... or sa rail engineering...
para malaman mo kung ano ang malaking kahalagahan ng mga hindi mo sinasangayon na mga proyekto
o kaya pwede rin gumawa ka nalang ng sarili mong mundo yung walang train, hehehe...

Pay local taxes, Mandaluyong tells MRT

By DJ Yap
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 01:31am (Mla time) 11/13/2008

MANILA, Philippines – Mayor Benjamin “Benhur” Abalos Jr. has warned commercial shops at the three Metro Rail Transit stations in the city that they face a shutdown if they fail to pay taxes to the local government.

He said owners of establishments doing business at the MRT stations had been informed of their real property obligations to the city, following the issuance of a writ of possession placing the Boni, Shaw and Ortigas stations in the city’s name.

Abalos said some of the establishments had started inquiring about their tax dues, but he added he was not aware if payments had been made.

The mayor also reiterated his demand for MRT Corp., the private owner and operator of the facility, to pay the city taxes on improvements it had made on MRT property, an obligation he said the company had not settled for years.

On Oct. 22, Judge Carlos Valenzuela of the Mandaluyong Regional Trial Court Branch 213 issued a writ of possession placing the city government in possession of the three MRT stations covered under tax declaration No. D-013-10636.

The Mandaluyong government later said it was now authorized to demand rent from MRT Corp. and to collect taxes from firms that own commercial booths and advertise billboards at the stations.

The MRT Corp. said it would bring the case to the Court of Appeals. “They don’t have a temporary restraining order so the writ of possession remains in effect,” Abalos told Inquirer.

In the writ, Valenzuela directed court sheriff Gerardo Umali to “eject the Metro Rail Transit Corp. and all persons or entities claiming rights under it who are physically occupying the same.”

The city government said it would not intervene in MRT operations or start moves that could drive up train fares.:banana:

Para namang inaangkin na talaga yung tatlong istasyon sa Mandaluyong City, hehehe:colgate:
Pero siyempre, kailangan naman talagang magbayad ng tamang buwis ang mga commercial shops dun:okay:

Dapat lang hindi makaabala sa operasyon ng MRT ito, at kung hindi..... patay sila!, hehehe:D

^^ okay ka lang?? a mass transit system is an important infrastructure ng isang malaking urban area gaya ng Manila. :bash:
talagang kailangan yan...kung maganda ang pagkakagawa at malinis...di nyo gayahin yung sa Malaysia...talagang world class ang design, actually yung mga yun eh kagaya nung sa mrt dyan sa may aurora...the only diff is malinis yung sa kanila at talagang well maintained...

sana sa atin din may TIME TABLE kung kailan darating ang mga train per station (like Japan) nakakatulong ito sa schedule ng mga tao, at per station naka display kung what exact time darating yun train at hindi lang ilang minutes pa ang aantayin.


tingin ko ok na na-idisplay na lang kung ilang minuto hihintayin dumating yung train instead na yung exact time ng arrival. It will create confusion kasi wala naman tayong uniform time dito e. iba-iba oras sa bawat relo naten. hehe :lol:

^^ sa LRT2 ang pagkakaalam ko may time table silang sinusundan,
nilalagyan lang ng adjustments kapag may delays...

Just imagine, how many times the announcer mentioned:
"Attention to all our passengers, for your safety please do not step beyond the yellow panels" for several times. And the people going down to the station is continuous...if the MRT has been delayed, I'm just wondering how crowded the platform be...especially if they haven't turned off the escalator...eh di stampede....

This is not even a rush hour on a Monday or the manic Friday night.
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The left platform is for north bound passengers. Bound for Mandaluyong, QC stations.

^^ The best way is to install barriers on the platform.

^^
Hala! hindi pa rush hour sa lagay na iyan ah...
Yup, mas makakabuti kung lagyan ng barriers dahil konting tulakan na lang may mga mahuhulog na sa riles... Ang kitid pa naman ng platform nila diyan...

Mag-Jowa Kumakain ng KFC Famous Bowl sa Loob ng MRT!

In Manila's MRT, food and drinks are not allowed to be taken inside and have it consumed there...but this couple is bold enough to eat inside with a KFC Famous bowl...what if it spilled to other peoples beside them? Pasaway!!!!!

Andaming karatulang nakalagay na bawal kumain at uminom sa loob ng tren...tsktsk!!!:ohno::ohno::ohno:

njzDs4EJOGw

Well, we can always take another perspective, one that is from people who are outside the NCR and not benefiting from the MRT or LRT. Given that these infra are intensive on investment requirements and given that these infra requires huge amounts usually coming from loans taken out from foreign funding institutions, that each Filipino taxpayer ends up paying for. Is it really prudent to concentrate such infra in MM?

Just something to tickle your minds, hehe. :)


Walang Loan dito ang gobyerno. BOT project. (Build, Operate, Transfer)
Is it plain simple elementary matters.

Mag-Jowa Kumakain ng KFC Famous Bowl sa Loob ng MRT!

In Manila's MRT, food and drinks are not allowed to be taken inside and have it consumed there...but this couple is bold enough to eat inside with a KFC Famous bowl...what if it spilled to other peoples beside them? Pasaway!!!!!

Andaming karatulang nakalagay na bawal kumain at uminom sa loob ng tren...tsktsk!!!:ohno::ohno::ohno:

njzDs4EJOGw
but isn't taking videos and photos inside the LRT/MRT prohibited as well? jajajaja :D

:nocrook:

Walang Loan dito ang gobyerno. BOT project. (Build, Operate, Transfer)
Is it plain simple elementary matters.

Better check your facts how the LRT's and MRT's operate before you conclude we aren't paying for it. Being BOT doesn't mean we're not paying for them. Note that the fares are still highly subsidized. If they weren't, then people won't be riding the rail lines as they will be prohibitively expensive.

Regardless, the better reasoning should be using the fact that the benefits generated by the rail lines tremendously outweigh the costs. That's simple, straightforward, and true.:)

but isn't taking videos and photos inside the LRT/MRT prohibited as well? jajajaja :D

:nocrook:
Prohibited ba? :lol:
Kasi nung nagreport ako sa management about a defect within MRT train, I immediately took a picture of it and have it reported at the nearest MRT manager....and di naman ako sinita...inayos pa nila...commend pa sila na dapat yan ang gawin kung may sira man o ano...advise kaagad ang nearest station manager para magawan ng paraan....in this case...nireport ko rin to sa Taft Ave station manager...gagawan daw nila ng paraan...ewan ko kung anong paraan. :nuts:

I was just wondering why in the above choices, Singapore is not in the list. They have good public transportation system including MRT/LRT with subway.

Here's the latest picture of their train:

Some pictures of the new displays from CNA:

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/imagegallery/store/phpxW0WsX.jpg
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/imagegallery/store/phphnbPcB.jpg
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/imagegallery/store/php8adb9e.jpg

Prohibited ba? :lol:
Kasi nung nagreport ako sa management about a defect within MRT train, I immediately took a picture of it and have it reported at the nearest MRT manager....and di naman ako sinita...inayos pa nila...commend pa sila na dapat yan ang gawin kung may sira man o ano...advise kaagad ang nearest station manager para magawan ng paraan....in this case...nireport ko rin to sa Taft Ave station manager...gagawan daw nila ng paraan...ewan ko kung anong paraan. :nuts:

MRT it isn't prohibited, in LRT it is...

MRT it isn't prohibited, in LRT it is...

Pero minsan nakalusot ako sa pagkuha ng pictures sa LRT, meron pa nga yung sa katabi ng life-size image ni Razon, hehehe:lol:

Pero minsan nakalusot ako sa pagkuha ng pictures sa LRT, meron pa nga yung sa katabi ng life-size image ni Razon, hehehe:lol:

Oo nga lalo na yung kuya sa Baclaran Station na picture sa Wikipedia...

Oo nga lalo na yung kuya sa Baclaran Station na picture sa Wikipedia...

Eto ba yun?, hehehe:lol:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/07/LRT_Baclaran_Station.jpg/250px-LRT_Baclaran_Station.jpg

Mula sa: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baclaran_LRT_Station

MRT wants to double number of trains

By DJ Yap
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 04:01:00 11/15/2008

MANILA, Philippines – The Metro Rail Transit serves 100,000 more passengers than its trains can accommodate every day, leading to long queues and packed coaches during rush hour.

MRT General Manager Roberto Lastimoso said the train system needed 73 more cars, double the existing number, to make the rides more comfortable.

“We have 450,000 average daily passengers,” he told a forum in Pasig City Friday. “But the system is designed to accommodate 350,000. We’re over by 100,000.”

Lastimoso added that the operators were trying to ensure that at least 20 trains were in good working condition during rush hours, and at least 12 on off-peak hours.

The MRT has 13 stations from North Avenue in Quezon City to Taft Avenue in Pasay City, running parallel to a long stretch of Edsa.

Lastimoso said they would push for an increase of up to P10 in fare in the first quarter of next year to cover the cost of acquiring new trains.

MRT fares are heavily subsidized by government. A passenger pays P15 for a train ride estimated to cost P60.

Lastimoso said this was the same for most mass transit systems in the world with the possible exception of those in Hong Kong and Singapore, which have profitable runs.

Lastimoso also assured commuters that despite the MRT’s heavy passenger load, the trains were “very, very safe.”

“It’s fully computerized. If anything goes wrong, it will not run. The possibility of an accident is very, very small. If the train is overloaded, the doors cannot close. If the doors cannot close, the train will never start,” he said.



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Its high time that the government increase the fares on MRT, if the money will go to fund additional trains then so be it...

I'm really hoping by next year they can at least acquire some of the trains already.. i mean all news , all publicity, nothing is happening... Walk the walk talk the talk..