Just imagine, how many times the announcer mentioned:
"Attention to all our passengers, for your safety please do not step beyond the yellow panels" for several times. And the people going down to the station is continuous...if the MRT has been delayed, I'm just wondering how crowded the platform be...especially if they haven't turned off the escalator...eh di stampede....

This is not even a rush hour on a Monday or the manic Friday night.
http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/2/photos/254/600x600/1/buddhabig01.jpg?et=IoFSWMuf%2CMrOzrVSTyUI%2BA&nmid=134313883
The left platform is for north bound passengers. Bound for Mandaluyong, QC stations.

^^ may problem kasi yung north ave bound na side ng ayala station platform e, yung elevator shaft kumain ng space sa platform. kaya if you will take the escalator down to the platform, there will be a bottleneck effect in the traffic. kaya siksikan dun sa area malapit sa coach for women. dun naman sa kabilang area after the elevator shaft, ang luwag-luwag. kaya dun ako pumipila sa may area na yun.

sumusunod naman yug mga tao sa yellow line, lalo na pag-malapit na yung train, pero may pasaway nga lang.

Eto ba yun?, hehehe:lol:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/07/LRT_Baclaran_Station.jpg/250px-LRT_Baclaran_Station.jpg

Mula sa: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baclaran_LRT_Station

Oo kuya, ako nga kumuha niyan e...

Anyway napansin ko na simula nung mag-retaliate ang mga tao dito sa SSC tungkol sa mga sinabi ni bcl4me e hindi na siya muli pang nagparamdam sa atin maging sa Pangasinan thread...

^^because I brigged him. So next time, don't reply to those kind of posts. Just report it to me.

Oo kuya, ako nga kumuha niyan e...

Anyway napansin ko na simula nung mag-retaliate ang mga tao dito sa SSC tungkol sa mga sinabi ni bcl4me e hindi na siya muli pang nagparamdam sa atin maging sa Pangasinan thread...

Hehehe, galing naman, kuha mo pala yung pic sa Wiki article ng LRT-1 Baclaran station:okay:

Oo nga eh, napansin ko rin na nanahimik na siya ngayon pati sa ibang thread:banana:
Baka nagsawa na rin sa panggugulo, hehehe:lol:

alam nyo naman.... he/she is such a loser... yaya! :lol:

sa LRT 2, photo and video taking is strictly prohibited...gusto ko nga itanong sa sation manager bakit, security or terror threat concerns ba, hindi naman ako mukang terorista. hehehehe...Grabe talaga sa MRt eh, sumakay ako nung sat night, kawawa yung isang ale malapit sakin nagrereklamo na talaga sha na sinisiko na daw sha...

Grabe na ang traffic ngayon sa may Balintawak area ng EDSA dahil sa tinatayong LRT Balintawak station.

^^ eto video..

http://www.gmanews.tv/video/31785/Traffic-on-EDSA-near-Balitantwak-heavy-as-of-1030-am

article:

MRT-LRT loop construction snarls traffic in Balintawak (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/133933/MRT-LRT-loop-construction-snarls-traffic-in-Balintawak)
11/17/2008 | 11:02 AM

MANILA, Philippines – The construction of the Metro Rail Transit - Light Rail Transit (MRT-LRT) loop snarled traffic along the Epifanio delos Santos Avenue (EDSA) in Balintawak area Monday morning, a GMA Flash Report said.

The report added commuters have started accumulating in loading stations after waiting for passenger buses from Monumento in Caloocan City for two hours.

Motorists and commuters also complained that vehicles plying the route of EDSA-Balintawak have not been rerouted to alternative thoroughfares despite the construction.

The construction of the MRT extension from North Avenue in Quezon City to Monumento started in October.

The MRT-LRT loop project would cover at least five stations and span 5.71 kilometers. It is expected to be completed and operational by May 2010.

The project aims to put up new stations in Balintawak, Roosevelt/Muñoz while the North Avenue Station of the MRT and the Monumento Grand Central station of the LRT 1 would be improved. - Sophia Dedace, GMANews.TV

what's the other 2 stations....?

roosevelt at balintawak stations ata. nagpoprotest pa rin yun taga bagong barrio.

ano ba yun, ipipilit talaga yung 90 degree curve sa monumento-edsa corner ng lrt 1? o lalakihan ang curve at masasakop ang north side ng edsa bago bumalik sa island portion?

at sana pag gagawin yung lrt 1 station sa north avenue, gawaan agad ng provision para sa lrt 7. at kung doon din ang terminus ng lrt 4.

look at these photos from another forum..:D these are from mr. "goodshepherd"(username)...

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u157/jibrael_2007/100_2686.jpg

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http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u157/jibrael_2007/100_2730.jpg

^^ The photos and environment seems crappy but to the eyes of those that are totally hyped and excited on this project, these are some of the most beautiful images I've seen today... :cool:

look at these photos from another forum..:D these are from mr. "goodshepherd"(username)...

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u157/jibrael_2007/100_2686.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u157/jibrael_2007/100_2696a.jpghttp://[IMG]http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u157/jibrael_2007/100_2687.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u157/jibrael_2007/100_2730.jpg


Finally, the MRT and LRT loop! A reality.....

OMG!!!! :banana:

naluluha ako sa saya!!! sana matapos ito before 2010!!!


Go go go!!! Madame's really working it...

^^As long as the contractor is not named MTD (SLEx rehab) it should be fine.

iba na talaga si Madame GLoria... kung kailan na matatapos kanyang termino.. ngayon pa lalabas ng mga big time project na ganito... hehehe...

^^ The photos and environment seems crappy but to the eyes of those that are totally hyped and excited on this project, these are some of the most beautiful images I've seen today... :cool:

:yes: I just came from a car forum with a beautiful Pagani Zonda photo, but these photos tops it. So glad there is progress!

lol @ the "FB" labels on the fences.

State lenders seek exit strategy in gov’t-MRTC buyout deal

BusinessWorld (http://www.bworldonline.com/BW111808/content.php?id=042)

STATE BANKS tasked to buy out the Metro Rail Transit Corp. (MRTC) from the Sobrepeña group in favor of the government now want an exit strategy, threatening to further stall the plan.

State lenders Development Bank of the Philippines (DBP) and Land Bank of the Philippines (LBP) have expressed misgivings about completing the deal for the state, saying they do not want to book losses from the transaction.

"When we acquire the MRTC, we want to make sure that we have an exit strategy. We don’t want to be saddled by it. The ultimate holder will be the National Government," a DBP official said on condition of anonymity.

"We want to make sure the prices are clear between us (state lenders) and the National Government and between us and [the consortium]," the official said. "We can’t just take it just to accommodate the government," he added.

The government has yet to hammer out details of the purchase plan, a source of concern for the two government financial institutions.

Plans to buy out the Sobrepeña-led consortium, announced as early as last year, have been stalled by funding problems.

The government initially looked at floating bonds to finance the purchase, but market conditions have since deteriorated, making borrowing costs more expensive.

The state has now shifted the burden of consummating the purchase to DBP and LBP.

Instead of the government directly buying out the MRTC, there is a proposal to consummate the transaction through the state lenders.

The MRTC is the Sobrepeña-led consortium that built the MRT-3 line, which runs 17 kilometers from North Avenue in Quezon City to Taft Avenue in Pasay City. It operates under a build-lease-transfer agreement with the government that expires in 2025.

The partnership, however, was mired by legal wrangling over the MRT-3’s rail extension, as well as the state’s concern about financing the P48 per passenger subsidy for the train’s operations.

The government has offered to buy out MRTC from its contract ahead of the expiration for $865 million. — Maria Eloisa I. Calderon

EDSA Station
Light Rail Transit (Yellow Line) 1
around 9AM...

I never knew that the platform could fill up to its saturation point so quickly in EDSA Station...Looks like it outperformed Baclaran Station so much already that the station itself needs additional floor space, being a hub (connecting station) for EDSA and Taft Avenue mass transits....

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h291/berniemacksouthcentral/Malolos10.jpg
North-bound passengers' platform at EDSA Station LRT earlier this morning

wahhhh!:banana: thx for the pics!!!grabe it's all becoming a reality!!!wahoooo~ :nuts:

EDSA Station and 3G LRT (Yellow Line)
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By: Darwin G. Amojelar | Manila Times
21 November 2008 | 9:34 AM

The Philippines’ largest mall developer and owner has backed out of a plan to finance the construction of an additional station for the Light Rail Transit Line 1 (LRT 1) North Extension project, a high-ranking official of the Department of Transportation and Communications told The Manila Times.

Last year, SM Prime Holdings Inc. and the Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA) were finalizing an agreement to fund the construction of an additional station to be located in front of SM North Annex building, between the Roosevelt and North Avenue stations of the extension project.

The transport official, who asked not to be named, said the government and the investors of the Metro Rail Transit Line 7 (MRT 7) would now fund the common station for the LRT 1 North Extension, MRT Lines 3 and 7.

The MRT-7 con*sortium is led by the group of Salvador Za*mora 2nd, president of Hina*tuan Mining Corp. and the La Costa Development Co., which owns 52 percent of ULC. Other investors in the project are SM Investments Corp., which owns 20 percent of the consortium, the Ve*las*co group, 20 per*cent and Le*vin group, 10 percent.

The same source said the common station would cost P777 million and would be constructed near the SM North Annex in Quezon City.

Mel Robles, LRTA administrator, confirmed that SM Prime would no longer finance the additional station for the extension pro*ject.

He said the transport department decided to have a “Grand Central Terminal” for MRT 3 and 7 and the LRT 1 North Extension project.

Shades of Tutuban, Edsa Central etc. I wonder how it fits in the planned QC Business Center.

November Update by WoS
LRT Balintawak Viaduct Works


More markings and scaffoldings now inplace in Edsa Median Island.
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http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3191/3048686823_c8575583e6_o.jpg

Cylindrical pillar reinforcement is under construction. Sooner when this done, it will be submerge into the hole that was bored by a boring machine. The ideal depth of the bored hole depends on the type of soil. If the soil bearing capacity was reached, the boring stops and the depth is measured giving you the height of the cylindrical reinforcement to be made. In this case, the length is about 20meters.
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We can clearly see here how big is the boring machine tool. The diameter is about 3meters for this one. Cylindrical foundations is ideal for locations where the columns are to place in small space, limited or along islands of highways, avenues. MRT3 has similar approach to this while LRT2 foundations was made using the spread footings. It consumes a lot of space. Design depends on the type of the soil where the footing will be placed and the desgn of the railway system itself.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3284/3048686949_7a06dfafd2_o.jpg


The boring machine is being readied. From the picture, it shows the machinery is of big capacity making the project more easy to do.
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By: Darwin G. Amojelar | Manila Times
21 November 2008 | 9:34 AM

The Philippines’ largest mall developer and owner has backed out of a plan to finance the construction of an additional station for the Light Rail Transit Line 1 (LRT 1) North Extension project, a high-ranking official of the Department of Transportation and Communications told The Manila Times.

Last year, SM Prime Holdings Inc. and the Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA) were finalizing an agreement to fund the construction of an additional station to be located in front of SM North Annex building, between the Roosevelt and North Avenue stations of the extension project.

The transport official, who asked not to be named, said the government and the investors of the Metro Rail Transit Line 7 (MRT 7) would now fund the common station for the LRT 1 North Extension, MRT Lines 3 and 7.

The MRT-7 con*sortium is led by the group of Salvador Za*mora 2nd, president of Hina*tuan Mining Corp. and the La Costa Development Co., which owns 52 percent of ULC. Other investors in the project are SM Investments Corp., which owns 20 percent of the consortium, the Ve*las*co group, 20 per*cent and Le*vin group, 10 percent.

The same source said the common station would cost P777 million and would be constructed near the SM North Annex in Quezon City.

Mel Robles, LRTA administrator, confirmed that SM Prime would no longer finance the additional station for the extension pro*ject.

He said the transport department decided to have a “Grand Central Terminal” for MRT 3 and 7 and the LRT 1 North Extension project.

Shades of Tutuban, Edsa Central etc. I wonder how it fits in the planned QC Business Center.



Hinde ko maintindihan ito masyado, does this mean na ieextend ang MRT-3 up to the grand central terminal? baka mamaya terminal lang ng LRT extension tapos may different pathways/link lang papuntang sa mga sariling station ng MRT-3 and MRT-7

Hinde ko maintindihan ito masyado, does this mean na ieextend ang MRT-3 up to the grand central terminal? baka mamaya terminal lang ng LRT extension tapos may different pathways/link lang papuntang sa mga sariling station ng MRT-3 and MRT-7

hahaha... hindi, ganito yun. The Ends of LRT1, MRT3 and MRT7 will meet at a common terminal infront of SMCity Annex that is soon to be built. Forget Grand Central of Caloocan.:cheers:

hahaha... hindi, ganito yun. The Ends of LRT1, MRT3 and MRT7 will meet at a common terminal infront of SMCity Annex that is soon to be built. Forget Grand Central of Caloocan.:cheers:

so it's safe to say that MRT-3 will be extended for a few meters and will have another station, that is, the grand central station. I saw some construction a few weeks back in front of SM North EDSA, yung sa may EDSA cor. west ave. ba yun? the lot's quite small but it has lots of machineries/activities there hindi kaya part din ito nung central station?

so it's safe to say that MRT-3 will be extended for a few meters and will have another station, that is, the grand central station. I saw some construction a few weeks back in front of SM North EDSA, yung sa may EDSA cor. west ave. ba yun? the lot's quite small but it has lots of machineries/activities there hindi kaya part din ito nung central station?

No, it goes something like this. Every line has it's own different platforms with the green color. Now, they yellow is the viaduct bounday. All rails in black line are all inside the so called viaduct boundary limits. MRT trains can all have an access by switches installed at left end of the station towards Caloocan. LRT1 (1 Northbound and 1 bay) and MRT3 (1 Southbound and 1 bay) will have each two tracks while MRT7 will have 3 tracks (1 Northbound and 2 bays).

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3280/3048993143_1570cd1364_o.jpg

No, it goes something like this. Every line has it's own different platforms with the green color. Now, they yellow is the viaduct bounday. All rails in black line are all inside the so called viaduct boundary limits. MRT trains can all have an access by switches installed at left end of the station towards Caloocan. LRT1 (1 Northbound and 1 bay) and MRT3 (1 Southbound and 1 bay) will have each two tracks while MRT7 will have 3 tracks (1 Northbound and 2 bays).

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3280/3048993143_1570cd1364_o.jpg

you have seen the actual design? :shocked:

No, it goes something like this. Every line has it's own different platforms with the green color. Now, they yellow is the viaduct bounday. All rails in black line are all inside the so called viaduct boundary limits. MRT trains can all have an access by switches installed at left end of the station towards Caloocan. LRT1 (1 Northbound and 1 bay) and MRT3 (1 Southbound and 1 bay) will have each two tracks while MRT7 will have 3 tracks (1 Northbound and 2 bays).

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3280/3048993143_1570cd1364_o.jpg

Wow! Let's do the switching!:banana:

Ok talaga si Sir WOs, mapa PNR o Light Rail Transit updated tayo gawa sa kanya :)

wow a grand station!:cheers1:

what's next?express train perhaps?:omg:

:banana::banana:

You made my day! Thanks!

No, it goes something like this. Every line has it's own different platforms with the green color. Now, they yellow is the viaduct bounday. All rails in black line are all inside the so called viaduct boundary limits. MRT trains can all have an access by switches installed at left end of the station towards Caloocan. LRT1 (1 Northbound and 1 bay) and MRT3 (1 Southbound and 1 bay) will have each two tracks while MRT7 will have 3 tracks (1 Northbound and 2 bays).

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3280/3048993143_1570cd1364_o.jpg

you have seen the actual design? :shocked:

FOR THE LIFE OF ME!!! Please answer jefflacs question, wheel of steel! Man! Your rendering is what I've dreamed would be the second best thing for the MRT/LRT hub in North Ave (of course, its still best if MRT3 and LRT1, and even LRT7 are still physically connected so a passenger can just board a train anywhere if he wants to go to Taft, Novaliches or Bacoor).

Nonetheless, this rendering is the best solution if all three lines are not physically connected (although for God's sake, they should at least have a service track to connect LRT1 and MRT3 because of the purchase agreement of older LRT1 cars). Having them connect via walkway is annoying, tiring for the commuters and plain silly (although even homogeneous and physically connected rail lines do the long walkway routine, as seen in SF's BART, the existing Commercial Drive station in Vancouver, and the Stockholm subway).

Is there even enough space for a grand station like that? A total of 7 tracks and 3 platforms would mean the station would have to be very wide. MRT Shaw Blvd station has three or four tracks (correct me if I'm wrong, as its been a while since I've ridden the MRT), and it already takes up the whole width of EDSA.
Isn't it cheaper if they made it only have two platforms (one for MRT 7 and the other for MRT 3 and LRT 1). That way, a passenger from Balintawak going to Ortigas can just by bypass this station without switching from LRT-1 to MRT-3. Or passengers on the MRT7 can just switch directly to the MRT3/LRT1 platform without crossing an additional platform.
Sometimes, Philippine political mismanagement just ends up making things more expensive and redundant.

Is there even enough space for a grand station like that? A total of 7 tracks and 3 platforms would mean the station would have to be very wide. MRT Shaw Blvd station has three or four tracks (correct me if I'm wrong, as its been a while since I've ridden the MRT), and it already takes up the whole width of EDSA.
Isn't it cheaper if they made it only have two platforms (one for MRT 7 and the other for MRT 3 and LRT 1). That way, a passenger from Balintawak going to Ortigas can just by bypass this station without switching from LRT-1 to MRT-3. Or passengers on the MRT7 can just switch directly to the MRT3/LRT1 platform without crossing an additional platform.
Sometimes, Philippine political mismanagement just ends up making things more expensive and redundant.

North EDSA is very wide...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2262/2233143619_96956330a9_b.jpg

Is there even enough space for a grand station like that? A total of 7 tracks and 3 platforms would mean the station would have to be very wide. MRT Shaw Blvd station has three or four tracks (correct me if I'm wrong, as its been a while since I've ridden the MRT), and it already takes up the whole width of EDSA.
Isn't it cheaper if they made it only have two platforms (one for MRT 7 and the other for MRT 3 and LRT 1). That way, a passenger from Balintawak going to Ortigas can just by bypass this station without switching from LRT-1 to MRT-3. Or passengers on the MRT7 can just switch directly to the MRT3/LRT1 platform without crossing an additional platform.
Sometimes, Philippine political mismanagement just ends up making things more expensive and redundant.

if that wide station cant be placed in front of sm annex...
maybe it can fit the are right in front of sm north, just in front of the
paramount... that area is very wide....

^^
Yup, sapat naman siguro ang space para sa isang MRT/LRT Grand Station diyan:banana:
Malaki pa ang maitutulong nito sa SM City North EDSA kasi nasa tapat lang nito ang Grand Station:okay:

Or simply, stack stations of any of the two lines or even all of the lines - one line's station can even be underground.

if that wide station cant be placed in front of sm annex...
maybe it can fit the are right in front of sm north, just in front of the
paramount... that area is very wide....

baka ididikit nila yung platform sa annex. lalo na yung lrt 7 na part. aba ang hirap kaya gumawa ng station tas ang tagal pa nung ibang lines. bakanteng provision = maintenance cost.

masaya kapag underground station... woohoo...

ryanr does have some good points and it would simply be better for MRT3 and LRT1 be physically connected, as well as LRT7 if the technology is compatible (since we ALL KNOW MRT3 and LRT1 trains are indeed compatible). Although I think the government agencies involved are doing their best to cope with the present situation (with legal mumbo jumbos, economics, politics and so on to deal with). After all, I don't have the billions to be lilke Bruce Wayne's dad and create a rail network to link the entire metropolis the way it should properly be networked... ;)

I suppose if the station does need to be wide, then if SM would allow it to encroach on their property (which I would think would be in their best interest as they would profit heavily on the foot traffic), then its definitely doable.

One thing that bugs me is why they can't just have single tracks per line for the terminus. Making them singled track per line would definitely ensure the grand central station for the three lines can fit in EDSA. This double tracking/double platform seems so universal at the terminus stations (like how the MRT3 terminus is today in both ends) still needs to be double tracked and double platformed even though its the end of the line. I questioned this in one of the proposed LRT projects in Canada and apparently its some "operational requirement" but if there is absolutely no chance of extending the line, why bother with that and with tail tracks?

I think MRT-3's EDSA station is not expected to be the terminus station of the line, it is expected that it is the one who will be extended up to monumento station as seen in their system map and if you are on the north edsa station you will see various signs on the side of trinoma of directions going to monumento

I think that is the old plan for the terminus, as far as i know. But we'll see, although i highly doubt it as i read somewhere the terminus for MRT-7 is sitting on North Avenue, walking distance to TriNoma. That's one of the plenty of reasons they decided to build a mall there in the first place.

wow a grand station!:cheers1:

what's next?express train perhaps?:omg:

sa Japan common lang ang shared stations.... lilipat ka lang ng area... not train transfer (unless the same railway company)... sana matuloy nga itong PLAN na GRAND Station na ito... kung hindi ishredder na lang ulit...

galing talga ni wheel of steel...sana matuloy na ung grand station, sana may mga taga dotc na nagbabasa dito sa forum na ito..

I think that is the old plan for the terminus, as far as i know. But we'll see, although i highly doubt it as i read somewhere the terminus for MRT-7 is sitting on North Avenue, walking distance to TriNoma. That's one of the plenty of reasons they decided to build a mall there in the first place.

Diba SM is one of the builders of MRT 7? Why would you put the advantage to your competitor? I guess SM will think building the terminus of MRT 7 near Annex is a wise decision:)

kung magiging grand terminal station ng lrt1, lrt7, at mrt3 ang northedsa...
sa tingin ko huling phase ng lrt1-mrt3 loop ang construction ng northedsa station,
then at the same time first phase na rin ng lrt7 construction, which nagtatayo na ng
mga posts connecting to the grand terminal then up to bulacan, hehehe...

wala lang... nagpapaka fortune teller lang, haha...

The LRT Line 1 North Extension Project
(as of November 21, 2008)

Source LRTA (http://www.lrta.gov.ph/projects/proj_l1northext.htm)

Brief Description of the Project

The Project involves the construction of a 5.71-km. elevated line seamlessly from Monumento Station of Line 1 to North Avenue Station of Line 3. The scope of works include:

Civil and Architectural Works, including the construction of the three new stations (Balintawak, Roosevelt and North as well as improvements in Monumento Station, modification of pedestrian overpasses and the provision and installation of all the required elevators and escalators thereat.

Electromechanical Works (except rolling stock) shall have parameters which are the same as that of CAPEX II-A

Construction Packages (in Philippine Pesos)

Package A: Construction of Viaduct and Pedestrian Overpasses

Package A1 (km 15.133 to km 17.870) .......................... P 1.398B

Package A2 (km 17.870 to km 20.614) ......................... P 1.402B

Package B: Construction of Stations and Station Modifications .. P 0.83B

Package C: Electro-Mechanical Works .................................... P 2.04B

Project Duration

May 2007 - May 2010

Project Cost

P6,322.85 Million

Project Status

The detailed design work on all civil works is in progress.

Excavation works on test pits started at Pier 74 from Balintawak going to Roosevelt a total of 52 test pits were excavated.

LRTA letter to MetroLink Joint Venture, DOTC, PMS and LUB dated September 11, 2008 to immediately start the excavation upon the instruction by President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo thru Administrator Melquiades A. Robles.

LRTA Memorandum for President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo thru DOTC Secretary Leandro R. Mendoza dated September 16, 2008 regarding problems on the LRT-Line 1 North Extension Project.

Quezon City already issued permits.

MMDA already issued excavation permit and traffic clearance as per MMDA letter dated October 14, 2008

Mobilization of Equipment (rigger) October 20, Tuesday (QC portion)

Installation of Barricades & Tarpaulins is on going

Balling & cutting of trees at Caloocan to start today (October 20) per DMCI Project Manager Cunanan.

NEDA-ICC review & Board approval of the Change in Scope of Work. c/o DOTC

Excavation works at Balintawak area is on-going.

Issues/Concerns

Construction permit has been filed with Caloocan City by the Contractor but clearance has not yet been issued pending request to relocate the station to Bagong Barrio.

Immediate release of Budget for the Common station amounting to 777 Million. c/o DOTC

For more information
Please contact:

Engr. Federico J. Canar
OIC, Project Manager
Tel. # +63(2)851-7338 or at
Tel. # +63(2)853-0042 local 8888

Is there even enough space for a grand station like that? A total of 7 tracks and 3 platforms would mean the station would have to be very wide. .. Or passengers on the MRT7 can just switch directly to the MRT3/LRT1 platform without crossing an additional platform....

^^ i believe the central station at north edsa may be patterned to bangkok's central station at siam paragon. where the platforms are stacked on top of another, in this way, limited space will not be an issue... though at that station only two lines converge, silom line and sukhumvit line... in our case, its going to be 3.

it would be wiser if they seamlessly connect lrt1 extension to mrt-3 since as was stated, they have compatible lines, this seamless connection will be situated at the upper level of the sm central station... mrt-7, on the other hand could be situated at the lower level platform..

gusto ko ng underground train system. :lol:

The LRT Line 1 North Extension Project
(as of November 21, 2008)

Source LRTA (http://www.lrta.gov.ph/projects/proj_l1northext.htm)

Brief Description of the Project

The Project involves the construction of a 5.71-km. elevated line seamlessly from Monumento Station of Line 1 to North Avenue Station of Line 3. The scope of works include:

Civil and Architectural Works, including the construction of the three new stations (Balintawak, Roosevelt and North as well as improvements in Monumento Station, modification of pedestrian overpasses and the provision and installation of all the required elevators and escalators thereat.

Electromechanical Works (except rolling stock) shall have parameters which are the same as that of CAPEX II-A

Construction Packages (in Philippine Pesos)

Package A: Construction of Viaduct and Pedestrian Overpasses

Package A1 (km 15.133 to km 17.870) .......................... P 1.398B

Package A2 (km 17.870 to km 20.614) ......................... P 1.402B

Package B: Construction of Stations and Station Modifications .. P 0.83B

Package C: Electro-Mechanical Works .................................... P 2.04B

Project Duration

May 2007 - May 2010

Project Cost

P6,322.85 Million

Project Status

The detailed design work on all civil works is in progress.

Excavation works on test pits started at Pier 74 from Balintawak going to Roosevelt a total of 52 test pits were excavated.

LRTA letter to MetroLink Joint Venture, DOTC, PMS and LUB dated September 11, 2008 to immediately start the excavation upon the instruction by President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo thru Administrator Melquiades A. Robles.

LRTA Memorandum for President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo thru DOTC Secretary Leandro R. Mendoza dated September 16, 2008 regarding problems on the LRT-Line 1 North Extension Project.

Quezon City already issued permits.

MMDA already issued excavation permit and traffic clearance as per MMDA letter dated October 14, 2008

Mobilization of Equipment (rigger) October 20, Tuesday (QC portion)

Installation of Barricades & Tarpaulins is on going

Balling & cutting of trees at Caloocan to start today (October 20) per DMCI Project Manager Cunanan.

NEDA-ICC review & Board approval of the Change in Scope of Work. c/o DOTC

Excavation works at Balintawak area is on-going.

Issues/Concerns

Construction permit has been filed with Caloocan City by the Contractor but clearance has not yet been issued pending request to relocate the station to Bagong Barrio.

Immediate release of Budget for the Common station amounting to 777 Million. c/o DOTC

For more information
Please contact:

Engr. Federico J. Canar
OIC, Project Manager
Tel. # +63(2)851-7338 or at
Tel. # +63(2)853-0042 local 8888

Thanks for posting this update.

gusto ko ng underground train system. :lol:

Not in Manila kasi medyo unstable ang lupa and other areas maybe in QC it's applicable it's one of the hardest bedrock in MM.

I hope that if ever they decide to build a grand central station it will be of iconic design. Just wishing... :D

gusto ko ng underground train system. :lol:

gusto ko rin... or kahit man lang 50-75% ng rail transit underground
:banana:

The Ayalas (i think) also have something to say because they own 49% of the Depot right? I mean i highly doubt MRT3 North Ave. Station will extend to SM Annex? I think that's the reason why MRT3 was not extended to monumento in the first place anyway i got curious...

So will the switching look something like this:

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa18/cq40/SMNorthStationmini.png

^^ The reason why MRT3 wasn't extended to Monumento was some mismanagement f*ck ups by the MRTC and the subsequent legal mumbo jumbo that followed it. Not sure about the Ayalas but you do raise a good point.

Does anybody know of any potential resistance by the current stakeholders of the MRTC to extending MRT3 to the envisioned Grand Central station? I dunno if Ayala still has a significant stake on the MRTC but in the spirit of Filipino crab mentality, I can forsee possible resistance to such a progressive move for the Grand Central Station if it benefits a competitor (SM) even though the full benefits will be realized by the public even more (i.e. commuters who will not need to walk such a long distance to transfer to/from MRT3 to LRT1/LRT7).

grabe na mrt 3 sa north ave, laspag na mga ticket barriers..

Pa- add naman ng Singapore MRT sa pagppilian sa taas

Pa- add naman ng Singapore MRT sa pagppilian sa taas

Hello Golden Boy, he he he.. Paandarin u na mga kamay u sa AutoCAD. Let's built perspective on this. :)

Basta, the plan is the government and business establishments is planning to build a central terminal in North Edsa specifically in front of SM Annex. This terminal will serve the lines of LRT1, MRT3, MRT7 and the proposed MRT9.

EDSA highway is normally 50meters in width. Minimum width of platform is 6m for island and 4m for side. Train width is 3m and the distance between trains is 1m. :cheers:

Hello Golden Boy, he he he.. Paandarin u na mga kamay u sa AutoCAD. Let's built perspective on this. :)

Basta, the plan is the government and business establishments is planning to build a central terminal in North Edsa specifically in front of SM Annex. This terminal will serve the lines of LRT1, MRT3, MRT7 and the proposed MRT9.

EDSA highway is normally 50meters in width. Minimum width of platform is 6m for island and 4m for side. Train width is 3m and the distance between trains is 1m. :cheers:

WOS: MRT 9? Where does it connect?

Isn't it the one that will traverse Quezon ave?

Isn't it the one that will traverse Quezon ave?

I think it's MRT 4....not sure though

^^Yeah. I also thought MRT-4 but that one will end in Quezon Ave. station. I think there's a proposal to end that line in NOrth Ave instead of Quezon Ave. Not sure though.

^^Yeah. I also thought MRT-4 but that one will end in Quezon Ave. station. I think there's a proposal to end that line in NOrth Ave instead of Quezon Ave. Not sure though.

It could be the revised MRT4. As of this moment, we don't know yet the status of MRT4, but a friend from DOTC says they are studying the center islands of Mindanao Ave., widening of Roosevelt, and widening of Espanya and Quezon Avenues because an elevated railway is being sought here. Actually they don't know what are they into and I think based on that analysis, the plan is to build a mass transit directly linking Quiapo to Novaliches.

I don't know if this is appropriate..

LRT Yellow Line 3G train coach
http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/1/photos/174/600x600/81/LRT01.jpg?et=Fj7PP35K7x7n82noATnP%2BA&nmid=97827103

Taft Avenue MRT (Blue Line) 3 Pedestrian Overpass and Passenger Concourse (at the same time)
Earlier this afternoon...the crowd is intolerable...and risk of stampede is very high!
http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/1/photos/174/600x600/82/LRT08.jpg?et=YylUIN6EgbilhWANg8jL4g&nmid=97827103

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/1/photos/174/600x600/83/LRT07.jpg?et=gDBxB2zGwEWWGtIyka3u6g&nmid=97827103

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/1/photos/174/600x600/84/LRT03.jpg?et=yaNADOYQHZsSQ0O8OX7aFg&nmid=97827103

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/1/photos/174/600x600/85/LRT04.jpg?et=QG9ePV%2B5Yhwy3ZccME3iyg&nmid=97827103

[B]LRT Yellow Line 3G train coach
http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/1/photos/174/600x600/81/LRT01.jpg?et=Fj7PP35K7x7n82noATnP%2BA&nmid=97827103



Nice shot of 3G trains....cute.

Taft Avenue MRT (Blue Line) 3 Pedestrian Overpass and Passenger Concourse (at the same time)
[/B]Earlier this afternoon...the crowd is intolerable...and risk of stampede is very high!
http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/1/photos/174/600x600/82/LRT08.jpg?et=YylUIN6EgbilhWANg8jL4g&nmid=97827103

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/1/photos/174/600x600/83/LRT07.jpg?et=gDBxB2zGwEWWGtIyka3u6g&nmid=97827103

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/1/photos/174/600x600/84/LRT03.jpg?et=yaNADOYQHZsSQ0O8OX7aFg&nmid=97827103

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/1/photos/174/600x600/85/LRT04.jpg?et=QG9ePV%2B5Yhwy3ZccME3iyg&nmid=97827103

It's early afternoon... so it's not even rush hour.
I wonder how it is during rush hour.

baka idadaan sa west avenue ang mrt9...
siguro may mga segments sa lrt7 na maghihiwalay ang two railways...
sa sobrang luwang pa naman, hehehe

WOS: MRT 9? Where does it connect?

Yup, saan nga ba dadaan ang proposed MRT-9? Ang alam ko pa lang ay yung MRT-8 East Line which connects Ortigas or Shaw station of MRT-3 up to Angono, Rizal:colgate:

baka idadaan sa west avenue ang mrt9...
siguro may mga segments sa lrt7 na maghihiwalay ang two railways...
sa sobrang luwang pa naman, hehehe

nako po.. sobrang dilim na sa may bandang area na yan pag nagkatotoo.. hehe.
:ohno::ohno: tpos anu kaya pa mangyyari sa propose ng dpwh na mga viaduct and flyovers sa may area (EDSA-West ave - North Ave) na yan..

sana the whole stretch of MRT 3 ginawang Subway nlng .. para magka 2 lanes pa ang edsa.

LRT Yellow Line 3G train coach
http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/1/photos/174/600x600/81/LRT01.jpg?et=Fj7PP35K7x7n82noATnP%2BA&nmid=97827103

Taft Avenue MRT (Blue Line) 3 Pedestrian Overpass and Passenger Concourse (at the same time)
Earlier this afternoon...the crowd is intolerable...and risk of stampede is very high!
http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/1/photos/174/600x600/82/LRT08.jpg?et=YylUIN6EgbilhWANg8jL4g&nmid=97827103

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/1/photos/174/600x600/83/LRT07.jpg?et=gDBxB2zGwEWWGtIyka3u6g&nmid=97827103

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/1/photos/174/600x600/84/LRT03.jpg?et=yaNADOYQHZsSQ0O8OX7aFg&nmid=97827103

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/1/photos/174/600x600/85/LRT04.jpg?et=QG9ePV%2B5Yhwy3ZccME3iyg&nmid=97827103
OMG. i'm happy i won't have to ride the MRT everyday. :nuts:

^^ I'm still in favour for the Grand Central Station but can you imagine how much people will be there once its built and all three lines, MRT3, LRT1 and LRT7, all converging into one spot? That would make the Taft Station transfer point look as sparsely populated as the Gobi desert.

I think one of the initiatives that they have to take is to allow tickets to be bought pretty much anywhere, not just in the station vicinity. Its like how in other countries, you can just go to your friendly neighbourhood corner store and buy a transit pass or something. So perhaps there should be ticket outlets in malls, sari sari stores, etc. So people will simply just show up on the station and head straight for the turnstile. It won't solve the long line ups but it would make the movement a lot faster. Of course, this should be complimented by more frequent trains in all three lines.

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/1/photos/270/600x600/10/Malacanang49.jpg?et=deP0IRWwbf5jw3o1o%2BJ1kQ&nmid=138767960

^^ To think of it that this baby runs at maximum speed of 80 kilometers an hour! So far the fastest train in the country.

^^ I'm still in favour for the Grand Central Station but can you imagine how much people will be there once its built and all three lines, MRT3, LRT1 and LRT7, all converging into one spot? That would make the Taft Station transfer point look as sparsely populated as the Gobi desert.

I think one of the initiatives that they have to take is to allow tickets to be bought pretty much anywhere, not just in the station vicinity. Its like how in other countries, you can just go to your friendly neighbourhood corner store and buy a transit pass or something. So perhaps there should be ticket outlets in malls, sari sari stores, etc. So people will simply just show up on the station and head straight for the turnstile. It won't solve the long line ups but it would make the movement a lot faster. Of course, this should be complimented by more frequent trains in all three lines.


^^ Right now, the main cause of the long lines is really not the selling of the tickets but more on the security checks. I caught a TV program which clearly showed that the chokepoint and gridlock is caused by the security check. Although making the tickets very accessible would help, there must be ways to solve the gridlock on the security checks.

^^ And to think that they don't check the bags properly. All you have to do is open it and they peek through it using their sticks. They still wouldn't know if you have a grenade underneath some other stuffs in your bag.

Dapat diyan airport style security checks...

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/1/photos/270/600x600/10/Malacanang49.jpg?et=deP0IRWwbf5jw3o1o%2BJ1kQ&nmid=138767960

^^ To think of it that this baby runs at maximum speed of 80 kilometers an hour! So far the fastest train in the country.

one time pagsakay ko galing recto ambagal niya...
lalo na dun sa mga segments na may malalaking curvature...
pero dati naman mabilis pa rin ung takbo (ung papuntang recto naman)...
:cry:

one time pagsakay ko galing recto ambagal niya...
lalo na dun sa mga segments na may malalaking curvature...
pero dati naman mabilis pa rin ung takbo (ung papuntang recto naman)...
:cry:

really? I thought from the very beginning they always slow down when approaching and traversing the curvature for safety reason. Even if they can go faster, I wouldn't want that, with any moving object. Forces will not be kind to that moving object. There will be greater force that will keep you off the rail than force keeping you on the rail.

^^ Right now, the main cause of the long lines is really not the selling of the tickets but more on the security checks. I caught a TV program which clearly showed that the chokepoint and gridlock is caused by the security check. Although making the tickets very accessible would help, there must be ways to solve the gridlock on the security checks.

I don't recall experiencing a security check when I used the MRT3, including transferring between the two lines in Taft station. Mind you, this was over a year ago so I may have simply forgotten. Or it was so subtle I didn't even notice it.

I suppose we can enforce a similar security check policy that is used in malls and other public places that has high volume of foot traffic but isn't really as gridlocked as the MRT/LRT lines. I couldn't imagine doing it the same way they do with airports since people do need to carry metallic objects and electronics regularly in their commute. In other countries, they don't bother having security checks on trains anyway despite high profile attacks in the rail systems of London, Spain and Tokyo during the past few years. If someone wants to bomb it, so be it.

If someone wants to bomb it, so be it.

you scare me...:lol:

^^ Yeah...scary...Especially when I think security magic sticks are not effective...and Mumbai...

I don't recall experiencing a security check when I used the MRT3, including transferring between the two lines in Taft station. Mind you, this was over a year ago so I may have simply forgotten. Or it was so subtle I didn't even notice it.

I suppose we can enforce a similar security check policy that is used in malls and other public places that has high volume of foot traffic but isn't really as gridlocked as the MRT/LRT lines. I couldn't imagine doing it the same way they do with airports since people do need to carry metallic objects and electronics regularly in their commute. In other countries, they don't bother having security checks on trains anyway despite high profile attacks in the rail systems of London, Spain and Tokyo during the past few years. If someone wants to bomb it, so be it.

^^ Even in the ASEAN region like Singapore and KL, they don't have security checks even if they do recognize the threat of terrorism. While we do have security checks here in Manila, it does not seem to be a deterrent at all since the checks are not thorough and the security guards are merely going through the motions. In the meantime, commuters have to endure the long queues just to go to the MRT station. You can see people spilling over in EDSA and it seems most of them already have tickets. They are lining up just to go through the security checks.

hay naku LAX ang security ng MRT at LRT ... asa pa tayo... mas concerned pa sila sa mga taong umiinom ng tubig o ano... kht nga sa styro ng pagkain puwedeng maglagay ng bomba o granada di naman nila mabubuksan yun... dapat may K9 na lang na taga amoy ng mga bagahe, at hindi stick ng drum , o dapat yung detector... tsktsk... pero malayo namang mangyari sa atin yung sa mumbai (sana) ... oo pala nangyari na dati RIZAL DAY BOMBING...

^^ napagisip-isip ko tuloy bakit ang nyc subway wala ring security checks, not that high of a police visbility either pero hindi sila nabobomba...

ngayon lang ata sila nagdagdag, in response to the mumbai attacks...

^^ Yeah...scary...Especially when I think security magic sticks are not effective...and Mumbai...

They're wands, they apply a special kind of wingardium leviosa to the bombs lol :lol:..I think they're looking for tubes and all that stuff used to make bombs..I just hope they still know what they're looking for and they're not missing out on anything...as i really trust them on my security when i ride the trains...


Taft Avenue is crowded? It's always crowded unfortunately, they now have an efficient system as a solution but the main problem there is that there's just too much people going to that station.

really? I thought from the very beginning they always slow down when approaching and traversing the curvature for safety reason. Even if they can go faster, I wouldn't want that, with any moving object. Forces will not be kind to that moving object. There will be greater force that will keep you off the rail than force keeping you on the rail.

nagddecrease naman sila ng speed pag nandun na sa segment
kaso, iba yung velocity nung sumakay ako... sobrang bagal talaga...
:ohno:

hay naku LAX ang security ng MRT at LRT ... asa pa tayo... mas concerned pa sila sa mga taong umiinom ng tubig o ano... kht nga sa styro ng pagkain puwedeng maglagay ng bomba o granada di naman nila mabubuksan yun... dapat may K9 na lang na taga amoy ng mga bagahe, at hindi stick ng drum , o dapat yung detector... tsktsk... pero malayo namang mangyari sa atin yung sa mumbai (sana) ... oo pala nangyari na dati RIZAL DAY BOMBING...

Yup, oo nga, hindi ganun ka-intensive ang inspection sa MRT/LRT lines, hindi ko rin sila masisisi dahil sa buhos ng mga taong gumagamit nito, matatagalan kung pa-isa-isa pang mabusising inspeksyon, siguro dapat may hi-tech na dadaanan sila (tulad sa mga airport) para ma-detect ang mga dalahin nila at yup, ayos yung may mga Canine dogs sa bawat istasyon ng MRT at LRT para amuyin ang mga bagahe:okay:

Nakakainis kasi kapag may nangyaring terrorist attack sa ibang bansa o dito sa Pinas, tsaka lang maghihigpit ng seguridad...:bash:

Sana nga hindi na maulit ang Rizal Day Bombing...

MRT & Ortigas Skyline
11-27-2008

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/1/photos/272/1200x1200/10/Yesterday09.jpg?et=ZCs1OYi5Y39WKNdYvb4b8w&nmid=139658795

The security checks' a joke. They won't notice a bomb unless you're carrying a bag full of it or something. Dali mag puslit. (Not that i tried. lol)

Tama si barrera bakit di nalang x-ray machines. (though i iwnoder kung san nila isisingit yon)

when i was in hk wala din security checks sa train stations nila. Though i won't compare them to us considering that we do have real terrorists here.

san mo pa ilalagay yung mga x ray machines, napakasikip na nga sa mga MRT stations... I agree with you, the security checks are worthless...para lang masabi siguro na meh "security" ba...

MRT & Ortigas Skyline
11-27-2008

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/1/photos/272/1200x1200/10/Yesterday09.jpg?et=ZCs1OYi5Y39WKNdYvb4b8w&nmid=139658795

Ah hah!! So they ARE adding rebars to the Burgundy Empire Tower!!! Perhaps there is hope for that building to continue on after all.. ;)

Nice pic btw. I guess I can see ryanr's point earlier thinking that EDSA (unless its starts to encroach to private property) may not be wide enough for having three lines with double track to the proposed Grand Central Station. But if its single track for each line, it can definitely fit, as clearly seen above...

i noticed mejo humigpit security check nila kahapon sa LRT. dati kasi parang 2 seconds lang ang magic stick nila sa bag ko. kahapon parang inabot ng halos 10. binuksan pa notebook ko. mukha ata akong terorista. :lol:

^^ Red alert siguro...Pasko kasi tapos yung nangyari sa Mumbai.

Nice pic btw. I guess I can see ryanr's point earlier thinking that EDSA (unless its starts to encroach to private property) may not be wide enough for having three lines with double track to the proposed Grand Central Station. But if its single track for each line, it can definitely fit, as clearly seen above...

i think north edsa is wider than that...

siguro yun security check is one way na rin to actually control the number of passenger entering the stations. kasi may time talaga na super dami ng pasahero.

minsan may nakikita akong k9 dogs sa MRT, pero wala naman ginagawa....

Hindi ba parang mas delikado kung naiipon ang tao sa mga MRT/LRT stations bago pa makapasok sa mismong platform areas? Mas pabor pa nga ito sa mga terrorista na gustong maghasik ng kaguluhan dahil kung mas maraming kumpol ng tao, mas maraming pinsala? Hindi ba't may pinost na ditong picture kung saan animo'y may People Power sa isang MRT station. Eh kung gusto talaga nila mambomba, talagang ang dali lang gawain yun, at tiyak maraming casualties. Kaya sa tingin ko, hindi talaga epektibo yung mga security checks na ginagawa nila sa MRT/LRT, sa halip mas nakakadagdag pa sa abala para sa mga pasahero.

Tingin ko naman, kaya hindi na nagkakaroon ng security checks sa mga bansa gaya ng Singapore o Malaysia kasi maraming mga naka install na cameras sa stations nila para mamonitor yung activities dun sa station. Mas magastos nga lang yun pero mas epektibo naman.

^^ Actually, kahit bomb scare lang pwede nang makapatay yan eh...lalo na ang dun sa North Avenue and Taft Avenue in which a stampede is very very possible...it could create more casualties.

^^^^
Correct. Saka hindi ba parang pati ekonomiya natin apektado ng ganyang mga delays sa pagsakay pa lang ng Mass Transit? Ilang pasahero ba ang laging na le leyt sa kanilang mga opisina, appointments, transakyons dahil dyan? Hindi ba kaya nga may mass transportation ay para mapa bilis ang byahe ng mga pasahero at makarating sila agad sa dapat nilang puntahan? Ang nangyayari, dahil sa mga aberya sa security checks, umaaapaw ang tao, napupuno ang mga tren at ayun laging nasisira.Iniimagine ko lang, kung walang mga security checks sa MRT, siguro mas hindi ganun ka over crowded yung mga tren (pero mukhang hindi rin ganun kasi talagang over capacity na ang MRT).

Pero dito sa Paris, minsan umaapaw din ang tao sa Metro pero mabilis ang dating ng mga trains. Kaya madali rin na di "disperse" ang mga tao. Subukan kaya gawin ng MRT yan pag rush hour?

nagddecrease naman sila ng speed pag nandun na sa segment
kaso, iba yung velocity nung sumakay ako... sobrang bagal talaga...
:ohno:

Maybe technical problem or maybe they really need to scale down their speed for safety’s sake. I'm just guessing here just think of it as preventive measure. We can never be too safe, right?

^^^^
Correct. Saka hindi ba parang pati ekonomiya natin apektado ng ganyang mga delays sa pagsakay pa lang ng Mass Transit? Ilang pasahero ba ang laging na le leyt sa kanilang mga opisina, appointments, transakyons dahil dyan? Hindi ba kaya nga may mass transportation ay para mapa bilis ang byahe ng mga pasahero at makarating sila agad sa dapat nilang puntahan? Ang nangyayari, dahil sa mga aberya sa security checks, umaaapaw ang tao, napupuno ang mga tren at ayun laging nasisira.Iniimagine ko lang, kung walang mga security checks sa MRT, siguro mas hindi ganun ka over crowded yung mga tren (pero mukhang hindi rin ganun kasi talagang over capacity na ang MRT).

Pero dito sa Paris, minsan umaapaw din ang tao sa Metro pero mabilis ang dating ng mga trains. Kaya madali rin na di "disperse" ang mga tao. Subukan kaya gawin ng MRT yan pag rush hour?

kulang kasi sa train ang MRT eh..ung lrt 1 madaming train pero minsan punuan din, lalo na pag na extend na ung papuntang North extension, dapat magdagdag ulit sila kahit 4 na trains pa..

minsan may nakikita akong k9 dogs sa MRT, pero wala naman ginagawa....
it looks like they're resting but their sense of sense of smell is powerful even at long range/distance.

Is there a plan someday to issue monthly pass? This is common in almost all major cities in the U.S. This will surely result in less waiting and therefore less waste of time.

There are stored value cards. What we need is a card that you can use on all lines.

minsan may nakikita akong k9 dogs sa MRT, pero wala naman ginagawa....

it looks like they're resting but their sense of sense of smell is powerful even at long range/distance.

BREAKTIME... :)

Is there a plan someday to issue monthly pass? This is common in almost all major cities in the U.S. This will surely result in less waiting and therefore less waste of time.


i believe meron na rin pong ganyan... mr. habagatcentral uses this pass i guess...

^^ Nope...hanggang P100 MRT stored value ticket lang ako. Kasi P250 per week yang Flash Pass tapos hindi pa ako masyadong lumalabas ng Maynila sa ngayon so it is impractical...otherwise it is sulit for those who use the MRT-LRT system frequently.

ah hehehe kala ko you used it before.. thanks..

pero lochinvar, there is your answer. meron na pong ganyan. konti nga lang ang gumagamit kasi di pa ganun ka practical sa ngayon...

but i like Singapore's EZ Link system. we should adopt similar technology.

Is there a plan someday to issue monthly pass? This is common in almost all major cities in the U.S. This will surely result in less waiting and therefore less waste of time.

oo nga sana mayroon dito nyan parang sa Japan 2 lines ata yun sa Kansai area unlimited a month

Here in Sweden we have one month Pass. This applies to our tram, bus, ferry, High Speed Train, and regional Bus.

This is really convenient and more cheaper.

Here in Sweden we have one month Pass. This applies to our tram, bus, ferry, High Speed Train, and regional Bus.

This is really convenient and more cheaper.

wow

Philippine version: one month pass: LRT MRT PNR RORO SuperFerry Jeep Bus Tricycle and Pedicab (ASA!!! hahaha)

hoping for a better Transport System in PInas so Obscure so left behind... nakakapagod umasa

MRT & Ortigas Skyline
11-27-2008

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/1/photos/272/1200x1200/10/Yesterday09.jpg?et=ZCs1OYi5Y39WKNdYvb4b8w&nmid=139658795


type ko kuha nito... :cheers:

wow

Philippine version: one month pass: LRT MRT PNR RORO SuperFerry Jeep Bus Tricycle and Pedicab (ASA!!! hahaha)

hoping for a better Transport System in PInas so Obscure so left behind... nakakapagod umasa
maybe we could start with LRT and MRT first. I think it's feasible in 5 years time. hehe. :D

IMO sa naalng ung gpass magexpand nalang pati s lrt at lrt2 then soon sa mga bus etc. even sa mga northrail southrail. at dapat exclusive ang mga turnstile! yan ang problema kaya walang nagggpass s mrt. haha.

eto matagal ko nang dream. sana bilin ng lrta ang mrt3. haha. pera madaling maunify ang mga stations.. pero it's just a dream. hahahaha. i don't know if it's possible under the BOT law

IMO sa naalng ung gpass magexpand nalang pati s lrt at lrt2 then soon sa mga bus etc. even sa mga northrail southrail. at dapat exclusive ang mga turnstile! yan ang problema kaya walang nagggpass s mrt. haha.

eto matagal ko nang dream. sana bilin ng lrta ang mrt3. haha. pera madaling maunify ang mga stations.. pero it's just a dream. hahahaha. i don't know if it's possible under the BOT law

Posible basta magbigay lang ng pera ang LRT para mabili ito...

Our transport system here in Sweden is own and manage by one company which is subsidize by the government.

Student till the age of 27 does not pay transport fee. They are free except on High Speed train and Airline of course. Even though you are not a student and still under the age of 27 your fare is discounted.

the philippine government has so many things to use its money rather than to subsidize every transport fees in the whole country. i think sweden enjoys being one of the highest per capita gdp, higher the per capita, more money the government can spend for the service of each people.

^^ Plus Sweden is paradise on Earth! Simply amazing that country is. And its a rail fan's ultimate dream... ;)

Everything revolves around money. In Sweden they have a policy of "from cradle to the grave." It sounds so nice to hear until you hear the groan from the working people. If I heard it right, almost 40% of the salary is taken from the working people to take care of this "from cradle to grave." It only varies in degrees from country to country. In essence, people who work the most are unhappy, while people who work the least are the happiest bunch.

Uso raw sa sweden e cash kapag namimili, kasi raw yung paggamit ng mga debit cards ay di raw magandang sign, lalo na sa paggamit ng mga credit cards, talagang minamaliit daw nila.... mayayaman kasi ang tao dun....

Everything revolves around money. In Sweden they have a policy of "from cradle to the grave." It sounds so nice to hear until you hear the groan from the working people. If I heard it right, almost 40% of the salary is taken from the working people to take care of this "from cradle to grave." It only varies in degrees from country to country. In essence, people who work the most are unhappy, while people who work the least are the happiest bunch.


Well you are correct. 40% is the lowest percentage we are paying. Taxes here are not solely for the government. This is divided to our Health Insurance, Social, Pension, Some miscellaneous services and the government tax.

e cash is just like an options we do use us well all types of payment.

Our Government is rich due to these high taxes.

We totally depend on Technology, Pharmacy, Automotive and Mining of raw material for steel and raw materials from forest.

The government here is not corrupt and they serve the citizen will.

We do not worry for our future as we already invest on our government and they take care of us.

Our transport system here in Sweden is own and manage by one company which is subsidize by the government.

Student till the age of 27 does not pay transport fee. They are free except on High Speed train and Airline of course. Even though you are not a student and still under the age of 27 your fare is discounted.

wow sarap naman.. sana dito rin sa Pinas!... ay... 29 na pala ako hehehe..

LRT ridership a record high (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/metro/view/20081209-176869/LRT-ridership-a-record-high)
By Riza T. Olchondra
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 01:08:00 12/09/2008

MANILA, Philippines – Despite lower fuel prices, the Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA) Monday said that more and more people are riding the trains.

According to the LRTA, its Line 1 served 525,289 passengers on Friday, Dec. 5.

LRTA Administrator Melquiades Robles said this was the third highest ridership figure in the public transportation agency’s more than 24-year history.

The last time LRT-1 ridership approached that level was on Jan. 9, 1998, when 495,650 passengers took the line’s Baclaran-Monumento route.

“We can safely surmise that train riding has already become a habit for most Filipinos,” Robles said, adding that more people now take the train because it’s faster, cheaper and more convenient.

The LRT-Line 1 fields 30 trains daily.

^^ And IMO, LRT1 is still comfy even if its full or crowded unlike MRT....

^^ And IMO, LRT1 is still comfy even if its full or crowded unlike MRT....

yep, lalo na yung new coaches nila...MRT parang gigiba na yung coaches eh...at meh information signs at guide ang lrt unlike mrt...sabagy dmo na mababasa sa siksik at dami ng taong nakatayo:lol:

Sana lang linisin din nila yung mga lrt stations kasi andumi tingnan.

^^ Sa ibabaw o sa ilalim?...they need more lighting though...sa LRT1 because it seems dark as compared to MRT3 and LRT2.

LRTA adopts ‘no-inspection, no-ride’ policy (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/138339/LRTA-adopts-no-inspection-no-ride-policy)
12/09/2008 | 12:31 PM

MANILA, Philippines - The Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA) on Tuesday said it has adopted a "no-inspection, no-ride" policy as the holiday shopping season started to peak in Metro Manila.

Radio dzBB reported that the LRTA asked passengers for understanding as it started the implementation of stricter security measures to ensure passenger safety in LRT's Lines 1 and 2.

It said that aside from security guards, there will be K-9 teams at LRT stations to sniff out drugs, explosives and other contraband which may be sneaked into trains.

LRTA authorities also asked passengers not to carry banned items such as paint thinner, gasoline, fireworks. - GMANews.TV

Yesterday, I had nothing to do, so I decided to make an LRT map on Photoshop. The map is posted on Wikipedia, but I'll post it here as well.

First, the quintessential English map (high-res (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0c/Manila_LRT_map-en.png))...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0c/Manila_LRT_map-en.png/471px-Manila_LRT_map-en.png

...and an unofficial, but hopefully equally handy, Tagalog map (high-res (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/Manila_LRT_map-tl.png))

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/74/Manila_LRT_map-tl.png/471px-Manila_LRT_map-tl.png

Yes, the LRT can be translated as Magaan na Riles Panlulan or, if you want a more official-sounding name, it would be Sistema ng Magaan na Riles Panlulan ng Maynila (Manila Light Rail Transit System).

^^Sorry but I really can't help laughing at the thought of calling LRT as "Magaan na Riles." :lol: Hoy wag pikon ah. I just find it amusing. :D :nocrook:

^^
Natawa naman ako sa direktang pagsasalin ng LRT sa Magaan na Riles Panlulan, hehehe:lol:

BTW, what's happening with LRT north extension? Are there any progress whatsoever?

^^Sorry but I really can't help laughing at the thought of calling LRT as "Magaan na Riles." :lol: Hoy wag pikon ah. I just find it amusing. :D :nocrook:

^^
Natawa naman ako sa direktang pagsasalin ng LRT sa Magaan na Riles Panlulan, hehehe:lol:

Actually, that's how it's translated in many languages. Think about it: tren ligero in Spanish or aliran ringan in Malay. Are there any other possible translations? For guidance:

Light in this context is used in the sense of "intended for light loads and fast movement", rather than referring to physical weight, since the vehicles often weigh more than those on so-called heavy rail systems. The investment in infrastructure is also usually lighter than would be found for a heavy rail system.

So ibig sabihin nito, ang isang sistemang light rail ay magaan sa bulsa at para sa magaang volume ng mga pasahero, hence the translation :D

(N.B.: The translation is based on the pertinent Wikipedia article made by an anonymous user. Originally, it was Magaan na Riles Pantawid.)

BTW, what's happening with LRT north extension? Are there any progress whatsoever?

source LRTA (http://www.lrta.gov.ph/projects/proj_l1northext.htm)

The LRT Line 1 North Extension Project

Project Status (as of November 28, 2008)

1. Package A1, A2 & B - DMFB Joint Venture
Excavation works at Caloocan area starts today 28 November 2008.
Fifteen (15) Bored Piles was already done at Balintawak area latest bored pile was at Pier No. 85.
Test pits were being done at Quezon City area.
2. Package C (Revised)
Invitation to bid was published last November 22, 2008 at Malaya, Tribune and Inquirer newspapers
3. EMS-1: Signaling.
Opening of Financial Proposals on November 28, 2008
4. EMS-2: Telecommunications - ALCATEL - Lucent Philippines
Contract was awarded to ALCATEL - Lucent Philippines dated October 16, 2008.
Preparation and Signing of Contract.
5. EMS-3: AFC
Opening of Financial Proposals on November 28, 2008.
6. EMS-4: Track Works
Opening of Financial Proposals on November 28, 2008

Issues/Concerns

Construction permit has been filed with Caloocan City by the Contractor but clearance has not yet been issued pending request to relocate the station to Bagong Barrio.
Immediate release of Budget for the Common station amounting to 777 Million. c/o DOTC
NEDA-ICC review & Board approval of the Change in Scope of Work. c/o DOTC
LRTA already obtained excavation and grounding permit from DPWH

For more information
Please contact:
Engr. Federico J. Canar
OIC, Project Manager
Tel. # +63(2)851-7338 or at
Tel. # +63(2)853-0042 local 8888

BTW, what's happening with LRT north extension? Are there any progress whatsoever?

Malapit na sa Monumento ang mga butas...

para san ba ito ?
may kuryente ba ito?
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Kapag wala train sa section sa area wala kuryente. But when the train is within a section, The Direct Current from the overhead cable pass thru the motor and the running rail is the negative return. This box in called an impedance box which step down the current (parang step down tranformer) and tap to the signal relay which transmit to the tower and indicate on the board as a red light and give the location of the train. The Impedance box weight around 200 pounds.
Direct current is used to power the train. It will be cheaper since Alternating Current will collapse as it travel longer distance. You will need a lot of substations to boast up the energy and it will cost more. Also AC does not have enough current to propel the motor of the train to load ratio.

The transportation company should consider having a middle track used as an express tracks so speed up the movements of passengers whose destinations are closer to the end of the line. But the best is having four tracks so that it will have express train services in both directions. This is how N.Y. Transit moves 3 million passengers per day. After 9 PM express train services will slow down and stop at 10 PM. It will start again at 6 AM.

Kapag wala train sa section sa area wala kuryente. But when the train is within a section, The Direct Current from the overhead cable pass thru the motor and the running rail is the negative return. This box in called an impedance box which step down the current (parang step down tranformer) and tap to the signal relay which transmit to the tower and indicate on the board as a red light and give the location of the train. The Impedance box weight around 200 pounds.
Direct current is used to power the train. It will be cheaper since Alternating Current will collapse as it travel longer distance. You will need a lot of substations to boast up the energy and it will cost more. Also AC does not have enough current to propel the motor of the train to load ratio.

wah... nosebleed, huhuhu...
hindi ko pa maintindihan kasi wala pa kami sa DC at AC, hehehe...

^^
Natawa naman ako sa direktang pagsasalin ng LRT sa Magaan na Riles Panlulan, hehehe:lol:

ok lang yan, un ngang voice recorder sa MRT eh taglish kung mag announce eh.. "hwag tapakan and dilaw na lines".. hehe pwede naman linya..

Sa tingin nyo ba nakatulong ang mga kinabit na LCD 26" ng MRT?.. mas maganda siguro kung dot matrix infos nlng like the one in lrt2 ang pinagkagastusan nila .. nagpapalabas sila ng parang MTv sa mga lcd tpos wla naman sounds.. db mukang kurakot lang?? tpos ipwinesto pa nila dun sa malapit sa open vent sa station where in pag umulan at humangin eh mababasa ung LCD.

ok lang yan, un ngang voice recorder sa MRT eh taglish kung mag announce eh.. "hwag tapakan and dilaw na lines".. hehe pwede naman linya..

Speaking of the MRT, the translations of the SRTS constituents in Filipino are supposedly as follows:

-LRT: Sistema ng Magaan na Riles Panlulan ng Maynila
-MRT: Sistema ng Pangkalakhang Riles Panlulan ng Maynila
-PNR: Pambansang Daangbakal ng Pilipinas (official)
-SRTS: Sistemang Panlulan ng Matatag na Republika

^^ uu nga eh... parang hindi naman nakakabenefit ng maigi sa mga passengers...
habol lang nila income? hehehe..

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MRT Taft Avenue Station Pedestrian Overpass...

As usual...bottleneck situation and guess what, the queues in the entrance are not long...its just the usual volume of pedestrian traffic squishing themselves in just to cross the overpass or exiting from the MRT coaches...

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:D
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pansin ko lang di na masyadong palasak ang mukha ni gma sa mga card :D

^^ Sa LRT lang, kasama ang dating Prime Minister ng Japan....:D
Remembering Kyle's "Ramdam ang Asenso!" :D

parang sa bus ung line nung mrt... sa partas kasi ganito: "we take pride in our safe and courteous drivers.":D

EDSA Station
Light Rail Transit (Yellow Line) 1
around 9AM...

I never knew that the platform could fill up to its saturation point so quickly in EDSA Station...Looks like it outperformed Baclaran Station so much already that the station itself needs additional floor space, being a hub (connecting station) for EDSA and Taft Avenue mass transits....

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h291/berniemacksouthcentral/Malolos10.jpg
North-bound passengers' platform at EDSA Station LRT earlier this morning

@Bernie, What is the gap or time intervals between trains? Here in NYC is 5 minutes on most lines and a few are 7 minutes intervals. This is how the platforms are being decongested during AM rush hour 6AM - 9 AM. The afternoon rush hours is 3PM - 6 PM. 3PM is the start because elementary and high schools are dismissed for the day.

LRT Lines 1, 2 to cut trips short on Dec 24, 31 for repairs (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/138823/LRT-Lines-1-2-to-cut-trips-short-on-Dec-24-31-for-repairs)
12/11/2008 | 02:07 PM

MANILA, Philippines - To give way for the much needed maintenance of its facilities, the Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA) announced on Thursday that it will be cutting short its operating hours for both the LRT Lines 1 and 2 on December 24 and 31.

In a statement, LRTA Administrator Mel Robles said that the maintenance works will cover rolling stocks, all the physical facilities, carriageways, and signaling systems of both its lines which run from Baclaran to Monumento and Recto to Santolan.

Instead of the usual 11 p.m., the last commercial train of LRT Line 1 will depart from Baclaran at 8 p.m and from Monumento at 8 p.m.

On the other hand, the last commercial train for Line 2 will depart from Santolan at 8 p.m and Recto at 9 p.m. on December 24.

On December 31, last trips for both Line 1 and 2 will be an hour short.

Citing LRT records, Robles said that they expect low ridership on these days, saying that most of the commuters usually stay at their homes to prepare for the Christmas and New Year’s Eve celebration.

Likewise, Robles said that they want to ensure the safety of the passengers and their facility to the hazards of the holiday celebration.

“We all know that many of our countrymen celebrate Christmas and New Year with fireworks which might affect our operations or injure some passengers on their way to or from the stations," Robles said. - GMANews.TV
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eto sasakyan ko ito..:D

LRT, MRT to offer rail tours to boost revenues (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/138433/LRT-MRT-to-offer-rail-tours-to-boost-revenues)
12/09/2008 | 07:50 PM

MANILA, Philippines - The Light Rail Transit Authority (LTRA) is exploring the role of rail travel in domestic tourism to augment its non-rail revenues.

In a statement issued on Tuesday, the LRTA said it will launch the "rail tourism" campaign on December 12 to "integrate leisure and educational tours" on board LRT Line 1 from the Balintawak station in Caloocan City to Baclaran in Pasay City and LRT Line 2 from Santolan station in Marikina City to Recto in Manila. It would also include the Metro Rail Transit Line 3 from North Avenue in Quezon City to Taft in Pasay City.

"The tour is mainly a group tour where participants will be treated to a whole new experience though rail-based adventures, featuring scenic and historic locations, Manila ’s urban skyline, and a walkthrough on the LRTA operations, showcasing the newly-installed state-of-the-art technologies on signaling and operations control," LRTA said.

Tour package rates start at P70.

Tours come with guides and occasional guest lecturers.

LRTA Administrator Melquiades Robles said such tours would help boost the revenues of the train system.

"We don't have projections yet. But more than that, it's a strategic value effect," Robles said in a phone interview. - GMANews.TV

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cool shots! Do you have a shot taken inside Cubao Araneta station or from the GAteway mall food court where you can see the trains that pass?

^^ Ang sa platform mismo ng Araneta Cubao Station...mukhang pahirapan dahil talagang bawal kumuha ng pix sa lugar na yan o kahit saan sa LRT...:D

@Bernie, What is the gap or time intervals between trains? Here in NYC is 5 minutes on most lines and a few are 7 minutes intervals. This is how the platforms are being decongested during AM rush hour 6AM - 9 AM. The afternoon rush hours is 3PM - 6 PM. 3PM is the start because elementary and high schools are dismissed for the day.

During rush hours...wala pang 1-2 minutes ang gap. The train hasn't left the station yet, the next train is already a few meters behind it...That is why during rush hours in LRT1, trains move quite slowly...maybe around 40kph instead of the usual 60.

LRT 2 on the other hand has a longer gap time...usually 2-7minutes.
MRT has about 3-5minutes but the passenger volume is very high in almost all of the stations.

During rush hours...wala pang 1-2 minutes ang gap. The train hasn't left the station yet, the next train is already a few meters behind it...That is why during rush hours in LRT1, trains move quite slowly...maybe around 40kph instead of the usual 60.

LRT 2 on the other hand has a longer gap time...usually 2-7minutes.
MRT has about 3-5minutes but the passenger volume is very high in almost all of the stations.

Sa totoo lang hindi naman lahat ng LRT2 trains ay inilalabas... marami pa silang nasa depot pero kapag kailangan na, ilalabas na sila agad... and by the way, kahit mahaba ang gap ng LRT2, siguradong makakasakay ka, unlike sa MRT... matagal-tagal na ang hinintay mo, hindi ka pa sure kung makakasakay ka na...

sa 3 line, MRT ang pinaka-importante pero pinaka-pinapabayaan.

Speaking of the MRT, the translations of the SRTS constituents in Filipino are supposedly as follows:

-LRT: Sistema ng Magaan na Riles Panlulan ng Maynila
-MRT: Sistema ng Pangkalakhang Riles Panlulan ng Maynila
-PNR: Pambansang Daangbakal ng Pilipinas (official)
-SRTS: Sistemang Panlulan ng Matatag na Republika

Cool! I've always been fascinated by bilingual signage since moving to Canada, since they are an ubiquitous feature in this country. Minor suggestions on LRT's and MRT's translations though:

LRT: Sistema ng Magaang Riles-Panlulan
MRT: Sistema ng Riles-Panlulan ng Kalakhang Maynila

I always thought such technology-heavy terms are untranslatable, but you've found a word that approximates 'transit' really well! Kudos!

^^ That particular rendering of the MRT in Filipino would read "Metro Manila Rail Transit System" instead of "Manila Metro Rail Transit System". Although the dash in riles-panlulan may work.

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Ang ticket sa LRT2...with the former Prime Minister of Japan and the....herself...:nocrook: :D

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buti nalang di pa uso dyan sa metro manila ang tulakan para mahulog ka sa riles ng LRT/MRT platforms.... dito almost every year meron, lahat kasi ng klaseng tao meron di to.... tsk tsk tsk

^^ Malakas yung deterrent kasi. Kung magtutulakan at nahulog ka, may fine and, if I remember correctly, prison sentence. If you fall onto the tracks, the fine is P50,000.

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MRT badly needs this

http://www.johnnyjet.com/image/PicForNewsletterHongKongMay2008280.JPG

Imagine how convenient Manila's metro system would be with these

^^ Like this one in LRT-2? :D Eh lagi namang sira ang bill intake or ang mismong vendo machine...what more pa sa MRT na dagsa ang tao as compared to LRT2? Maintenance pa lang baka lugi na ang taumbayan sa serbisyo...
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That is why the buyout should proceed so that at least its not just the trains that could get an upgrade (or increased number) but also their service as well.

yeah, LRT 2 has those. MRT 3 should have them too. queues are getting longer and longer. even reaching the stairs. (so i heard)

and to the riding public - i mean the female public. please please be kind to us males. there's a couch dedicated for you. don't try to play ignorant of the simple arrangements by getting into the 2 remaining couches which are already packed up with males.

^^ Sometimes, being a gentleman in this scenario just couldn't get in sync with reality. Pasensya na if I'll not be accommodating to women in the MRT except for the elderly, children and the pregnant.

when in the first place, they should not be there. the front couch is dedicated for them. usually di pa naman sila packed up samantalang yung dalawang couches ay parang sardinas na nga ang mga tao. i'm starting to believe there are more than twice males than are females. pala pati mga females, gustong makisakay sa mga males. pati na rin yung mga magboyfren na ayaw maghiwalay. :ohno:

and to the riding public - i mean the female public. please please be kind to us males. there's a couch dedicated for you. don't try to play ignorant of the simple arrangements by getting into the 2 remaining couches which are already packed up with males.

There are some who just cannot leave their boyfriend even for several minutes :lol:

dapat kasi nabibili na yung mga ticket sa mga convenience store o kaya kahit sa mga sari-sari store:lol: para dire-diretso na lang sa train. hindi na kelangan pumila. lalo tuloy naiipon yung mga tao.

There are some who just cannot leave their boyfriend even for several minutes :lol:


kung magkakasama kayo (kahit with your friends) mahirap naman talagang maghiwalay pa ng couch. paano kung masyadong maraming tao, mahirap nang makahanapan pa (paano pa kung walang load). lalo na kung yung 1 sa inyo hindi naman alam kung saan bababa.

Post away folks! :colgate:

Link to Thread 9 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=96027&page=309) in the Archives. :okay:

New thread! (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=767652) :colgate:



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Balintawak Area

wow ang bilis naman, tapos na ang old thread. Anyway perhaps someone can list down the exact accurate status of :
LRT1 extension to North Edsa
LRT1 extension to Cavite
MRT3 buyout and new trains
LRT 7 new line to Novaliches
LRT2 extension to Cogeo

That way we're all on the same page with this thread.

^^With the extension of the train lines on different locations are they also adding more tracks to four so that two tracks will be devouted to express tracks north and south bounds? Are they utilizing the full length of the platforms with the train length to maximize the number of passengers? I rode the Cubao to Baclaran run a few years back which utilized only about half of the platforms length.

Here in N.Y. transit there are no more fare cards sellers(token clerks previous name) but now called passenger courtesy information counter. They do not sell metro card unless the four vending machines infront of the clerks are broken which accepts cash, credit and debit cards. There are at least six of the vending machines per stations. You can buy the cards also at most banks tellers, convenient stores similar to sari-sari stores. So you will see unobstructive turnstiles.

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Balintawak Area

Hmmm, mukhang matatagalan pa ito ah...

Hmmm, mukhang matatagalan pa ito ah...

baka itatapat daw sa pump priming 2009 kahit di pa fully gamit ang budget this year

meh isang poste na sila na pinoporma kagabi nung dumaan kami...ready to be cemented...

^^ actually, i pass this portion of EDSA going to the north every week.
yung strecht ng balintawak to munoz na ang nahuhukay nila.

in my opinion, mabilis ang progress nila. madami na silang nahukay at nalagyan na ng mga metal frames para sa mga poste. (sorry not familiar with the engineering terms) next step is to pour concrete sa mga pillars.

medyo hindi lang ganun ka lawak nung pictures sa taas.

sa mga MRT expert , ask ko lang sana kung bakit dito sa Singapore eh 4 ang bakal ng riles (diba 2 lang usually?) meron outer na rail (i think yun ang ginagamit kasi makintab) then may inner pa pero di na makintab (so di nagagamit?) same size naman ata sila mga 3inches ang lapad ata

http://img15.exs.cx/img15/9861/MRT_3069_Choa_Chu_Kang_Singapore_970404.jpg

nabasa ko na dati ang tanong na yan dito sa SSC.
yun po ata ang daluyan ng kuryente.. instead na overhead cables, sa ground ang electricity.

kuha ba sa Tanah Merah Interchange yan?

malabong tana merah kasi walang middle track tska di familiar ang tanawin (tampines kasi ako)

ok akala ko old track yun na di na ginagamit pero di lang tinanggal hehe

bakit walang bato sa lrt2? ang dami ng iskater sa buendia stn ng pnr

nabasa ko na dati ang tanong na yan dito sa SSC.
yun po ata ang daluyan ng kuryente.. instead na overhead cables, sa ground ang electricity.

kuha ba sa Tanah Merah Interchange yan?


This Photo Probably Taken at Jurong West (Boonlay) Station.
The supporting middle Track Purpose is for support only.
The Electricity lines can be seen as that about 1 foot from
the Tracks, that aluminum look Channel while the Train contact
on the power lines are at the side of the train.

ganda tlga ng mga mrt's sa singapore... mostly island platform pa sila , so madali makapag lipat ng trains at easy flowing , maganda din ung ticketing sistem nila dhil flflash mo nlng sa detector ung card mo , tpos pwede magamit sa mga pUblic bus, hndi tulad dito pinapsok pa sa slot..:lol:

i miss singapore.. sana natuloy ung lrt 4 dito sa atin.. hayy.. :bash:
inis na inis na ako sa q.ave and espana eh.

This Photo Probably Taken at Jurong West (Boonlay) Station.
The supporting middle Track Purpose is for support only.
The Electricity lines can be seen as that about 1 foot from
the Tracks, that aluminum look Channel while the Train contact
on the power lines are at the side of the train.

nakalagay sa photo choa chu kang daw, pero di ako sure since 2x pa lang ako umabot dyan at tiga tampines ako

pero kung for support yan, bat di makintab? so parang di tinatamaan ng gulong ng tren? sensya na sa OT

;29454368']sa mga MRT expert , ask ko lang sana kung bakit dito sa Singapore eh 4 ang bakal ng riles (diba 2 lang usually?) meron outer na rail (i think yun ang ginagamit kasi makintab) then may inner pa pero di na makintab (so di nagagamit?) same size naman ata sila mga 3inches ang lapad ata

http://img15.exs.cx/img15/9861/MRT_3069_Choa_Chu_Kang_Singapore_970404.jpg

The two rusty rails beside the running rails are used to protect and prevent the train cars from falling off the structure during the derailment. One of the running rails most likely beside the third rail which power the train of DC current is the negative return. The other shinny running rails is the signal rails which has only .5 to 1.5 Volts AC or DC depend of the signal system used which indicate the location of the train in an instant to the tower dispatchers/supervisors Board. The two big rails on the outer side of the train is called the third rail. As shown above its construction is staggered because the conture of the track tilt to the right or the train is entering the station for safety reason.
A gap of no more than 1/8" at each joint allow the metal to expand every few thousand feet on the running rails.

wow! nagwowork ba kayo sa SMRT?

wow ang bilis naman, tapos na ang old thread. Anyway perhaps someone can list down the exact accurate status of :
LRT1 extension to North Edsa
LRT1 extension to Cavite
MRT3 buyout and new trains
LRT 7 new line to Novaliches
LRT2 extension to Cogeo

That way we're all on the same page with this thread.

sorry but what is LRT 4, 5 and 6?

^^ That would be the following:

-MRT-4: shelved pending re-alignment due to overlap with MRT-7
-MRT-5: Phase 3 of Northrail (Valenzuela to Fort Bonifacio)
-LRT-6: LRT-1 South Extension

Just want to ask a question to an earth engineers or civil beginner here in the forum.

Why is that it not possible in Phil to build an underground metro transit?

Why Thailand has an underground metro?

^^ Who says it's impossible?

Has it not occured to you that almost every single infrastructure project ever started in the country was cheap, cheap cheap?

The unscientific, unofficial, hypothetical answer? Flooding during the rainy season is the main concern.

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look at the mass housing, that's what the PHIl govt. should build to clean up the metro.

Just want to ask a question to an earth engineers or civil beginner here in the forum.

Why is that it not possible in Phil to build an underground metro transit?

Why Thailand has an underground metro?

Cost to maintain:
- 24 lighting the stations and the tracks between stations just in case the train stalls on emergency situation.
- Automatic sump pumps at the lowest level of the section train line for the water leaks or wall seppages or underground water river. You need a giant submergable pumps mounted on flatbed that displaced water and fill a supertanker fire truck in less than a minutes. I saw it work a few times.
- You need a vacuum trains with three containers about 39 feet long each for the debris to pick up papers and soda cans on the whole line. It needs to pass back and forth a few times.
- The Train Authority should have a track geometry/X-ray electric/diesel train, a twin power train. It is an intelligent train which examines and records the the integrity of the tracks like if there is a crack rail at the exact location noted and the conture of the track if there were changes on the previous inspection.

wow! nagwowork ba kayo sa SMRT?

SA N.Y.C.Transit

^^^ so much technical details kasi yung post mo sir kaya I assume that you are working for a railway company :)


nga pala yung mga mass housing na yan ang tawag nyan dito sa Singapore ay HDB. parang tenement satin pero halos lahat ng mga tao dito dyan nakatira including mga OFWs tulad ko. anyway back to topic :lol:

sana yung railway system natin sa Pinas would stretch from aparri to bicol. this would really spur growth sa mga far flung areas. pero wala tayong budget :bash:

Project Status (as of December 12, 2008)

source LRTA (http://www.lrta.gov.ph/projects/proj_l1northext.htm)

1. Package A1, A2 & B - DMFB Joint Venture
Thirty Two (32) trial pit has been excavated at Caloocan area
Thirty Four (34) Bored Piles was already done at Balintawak area latest bored pile was at Pier No. 104.

2. Package C (Revised)
Invitation to bid was published last November 22, 2008 at Malaya, Tribune and Inquirer newspapers
Opening of Eligibilty Documents on December 15, 2008

3. EMS-1: Signaling.
Opening of Financial Bids on December 5, 2008

4. EMS-2: Telecommunications - ALCATEL - Lucent Philippines
Contract was awarded to ALCATEL - Lucent Philippines dated October 16, 2008

5. EMS-3: AFC
Opening of Financial Bids on December 5, 2008.

6. EMS-4: Track Works
Opening of Financial Bids on December, 2008

Issues/Concerns

Construction permit has been filed with Caloocan City by the Contractor but clearance has not yet been issued pending request to relocate the station to Bagong Barrio.
Immediate release of Budget for the Common station amounting to 777 Million. c/o DOTC
NEDA-ICC review & Board approval of the Change in Scope of Work. c/o DOTC
LRTA already obtained excavation and grounding permit from DPWH

For more information
Please contact:
Engr. Federico J. Canar
OIC, Project Manager
Tel. # +63(2)851-7338 or at
Tel. # +63(2)853-0042 local 8888

Project Status (as of December 12, 2008)

source LRTA (http://www.lrta.gov.ph/projects/proj_l1northext.htm)

Issues/Concerns

Construction permit has been filed with Caloocan City by the Contractor but clearance has not yet been issued pending request to relocate the station to Bagong Barrio.


^^ The Bagon Barrio station issue seems to be dragging the problem. There was even a rally before to contruct an LRT station in front of the Bagong Barrio area. Hopefully they resolve it at the soonest possible time.

^^^ so much technical details kasi yung post mo sir kaya I assume that you are working for a railway company :)


nga pala yung mga mass housing na yan ang tawag nyan dito sa Singapore ay HDB. parang tenement satin pero halos lahat ng mga tao dito dyan nakatira including mga OFWs tulad ko. anyway back to topic :lol:

sana yung railway system natin sa Pinas would stretch from aparri to bicol. this would really spur growth sa mga far flung areas. pero wala tayong budget :bash:

tiga green line ka ba? east ? may nakasabay kasi ako kanina umaga sa MRT na naka AMD eh tapos mukhang pinoy hehe

Kanina sa Araneta Center-Cubao Station (MRT Line 3)

Sabi ni miss: "Ohhheeemmgeee!!" :D
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Huwag na kasing ipagpilitang isiksik ang sarili...me susunod naman na train (ang sumunod, jam packed din!)
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If ridership is that high all the time at all hours, they should increase the frequency of the trains. How long is the lagtime in between? Either that, or add more lines to crisscross the Metro and even extend it into the adjacent provinces.

^^ Average perhaps of 3 to 5 minutes...but sometimes it reaches 10 minutes and the trains are still full! Of all the light rail systems in the metro, MRT lags behind in terms of frequency, service, station management and capacity.

The good thing about LRT Line 1 is that on average (my approximate of course) they have a lagtime of at least 2 to 3 minutes...sometimes even if the train hasn't left the station yet, another train is approaching just a few meters behind it.

MRT security guards should also use high-tech detectors or whatever you call that, like the ones being used in the malls. Right now, they're just using a stick. Wrapped gifts are required to be opened upon entering the station. However, not all people wouldn't want that so to save them from hassle, they just take the bus instead. This happened to me last week. :ohno:

But blessing in disguise, it only took 35minutes from North Edsa up to Chino Roces Ave. by bus. :D And that is during a rush hour. hehe. So guys, you might give it a try. :D

Kanina sa Araneta Center-Cubao Station (MRT Line 3)

Sabi ni miss: "Ohhheeemmgeee!!" :D
http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/1/photos/280/600x600/48/Pasay01.jpg?et=AFWXaOYq%2C9dQ%2Ba0k%2BJcs2A&nmid=145430811

Huwag na kasing ipagpilitang isiksik ang sarili...me susunod naman na train (ang sumunod, jam packed din!)
http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/1/photos/280/600x600/51/Pasay02.jpg?et=%2ChyFm2Iuop9zZCAJBH1nfQ&nmid=145430811

^^ the technique there most specially during rush hours is to ride from the farthest station.. the crowding, poor management, etc etc are there to stay, kaya ikaw ang mag-adjust... so from Cubao, take the train to North Avenue tapos tawid ka sa kabila, and then take the train again going to your destination... same thing if your coming from Ayala going North, take the train first going to Taft tapos dun ka na ulit sumakay and you will never ever suffer again...

Kanina sa Araneta Center-Cubao Station (MRT Line 3)

Sabi ni miss: "Ohhheeemmgeee!!" :D
http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/1/photos/280/600x600/48/Pasay01.jpg?et=AFWXaOYq%2C9dQ%2Ba0k%2BJcs2A&nmid=145430811

Huwag na kasing ipagpilitang isiksik ang sarili...me susunod naman na train (ang sumunod, jam packed din!)
http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/1/photos/280/600x600/51/Pasay02.jpg?et=%2ChyFm2Iuop9zZCAJBH1nfQ&nmid=145430811

^^ Not to mention matagal! :ohno:

Kanina sa Araneta Center-Cubao Station (MRT Line 3)

Sabi ni miss: "Ohhheeemmgeee!!" :D
http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/1/photos/280/600x600/48/Pasay01.jpg?et=AFWXaOYq%2C9dQ%2Ba0k%2BJcs2A&nmid=145430811

Huwag na kasing ipagpilitang isiksik ang sarili...me susunod naman na train (ang sumunod, jam packed din!)
http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/1/photos/280/600x600/51/Pasay02.jpg?et=%2ChyFm2Iuop9zZCAJBH1nfQ&nmid=145430811

@Bernie, do they utilized the full length of the station?
As I observed, the distance between stations of MRT is almost like an express stops here in New York City Transit.:ohno:

^^ No. The length of the station itself is for a four coach train, but MRT is only utilizing 3 coach train.

the technique there most specially during rush hours is to ride from the farthest station.. the crowding, poor management, etc etc are there to stay, kaya ikaw ang mag-adjust... so from Cubao, take the train to North Avenue tapos tawid ka sa kabila, and then take the train again going to your destination... same thing if your coming from Ayala going North, take the train first going to Taft tapos dun ka na ulit sumakay and you will never ever suffer again...

That's more hassle than its worth.

^^ Actually, people have been doing that but more on the south bound MRTs because there is no need to transfer trains, just sit and wait for the train to leave Taft Avenue station...because the platform is in the middle, unlike the other stations which their platforms is at the side and so are its concourses.

Usually, people from Ayala Station (3rd station from south [Taft-Magallanes-Ayala]) do this in order to sit and would not opt to stand and be crushed by the crowd....:D

The northern side perhaps is of a hassle...because you really need to transfer trains (except if you are preggy, disabled or old) and will have to shell out another 15 pesos or line up again at the turnstiles and security inspection.

^^ Actually, people have been doing that but more on the south bound MRTs because there is no need to transfer trains, just sit and wait for the train to leave Taft Avenue station..

Usually, people from Ayala Station (3rd station from south [Taft-Magallanes-Ayala]) do this in order to sit and would not opt to stand and be crushed by the crowd....:D

Ah, thanks for the info.

^^ Ganito, sumakay ka sa south bound (papuntang Taft Avenue) if nasa Ayala Station ka...tapos pagdating sa Taft Avenue Station, huwag kang magpahalata sa gwardya na galing ka pang Ayala, kasi most probably iisipin nila na isa ka sa mga pasahero na galing sa Taft Avenue Station mismo (ang dami kasing bumababa, ang dami din kasing sumasakay at the same time...gitgitan kaya pahirapan din ang inspeksyon ng mga coaches, hahaha!!! :lol: )

Pagdating pa lang sa Magallanes Station, tayuan na. Pagbalik ng tren sa Ayala Station, gitgitan at siksikan na. :colgate: Nakaupo ka na, di ka na mahahassle na pigain ng papasok na crowd. That's rush hour 101 sa MRT....:D

^^ Ganito, sumakay ka sa south bound (papuntang Taft Avenue) if nasa Ayala Station ka...tapos pagdating sa Taft Avenue Station, huwag kang magpahalata sa gwardya na galing ka pang Ayala, kasi most probably iisipin nila na isa ka sa mga pasahero na galing sa Taft Avenue Station mismo (ang dami kasing bumababa, ang dami din kasing sumasakay at the same time...gitgitan kaya pahirapan din ang inspeksyon ng mga coaches, hahaha!!! :lol: )

Pagdating pa lang sa Magallanes Station, tayuan na. Pagbalik ng tren sa Ayala Station, gitgitan at siksikan na. :colgate: Nakaupo ka na, di ka na mahahassle na pigain ng papasok na crowd. That's rush hour 101 sa MRT....:D

Just curious, why do I have to be cautious on the guards? Bawal ba to? paying passenger naman? Do I have to get out of the station and proceed to North bound?

^^ Actually, all trains go north bound as soon as they reach Taft Avenue Station, so just sit back and relax...You don't need to be VERY cautious...basta huwag pahalata...anyway, a lot of people have been doing that. :lol:

http://www.bworldonline.com/BW122208/content.php?id=003

Stimulus funding for transport projects

FOUR METRO MANILA transportation projects may be funded next year by a P100-billion initiative that will be jointly financed by the public and private sectors, proponents of the pump-priming plan said.

Some economists, however, say such projects will not have an immediate pump-priming effect because of long bidding processes involved, adding that ventures outside the capital and those targeting education must also be considered.

The four projects — commuter train upgrades and new expressways serving the metropolis — will join at least six other infrastructure proposals under review, the list of which will be finalized next month along with the rules to govern the P100-billion fund, Philippine Chamber of Commerce and Industry (PCCI) Chairman Emeritus Donald G. Dee said.

Half of the stimulus fund, which was announced by President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo as a PCCI proposal in October, will be shouldered by government financial institutions such as the Social Security System (SSS), Government Service Insurance System, and National Development Corp. The private sector will participate by pledging equity in a project via build-operate-transfer schemes or commercial bank loans.

"The President wants [Romulo L. Neri, SSS president and chief executive officer] to oversee the program ... The Development Bank of the Philippines will be the custodian bank," Mr. Dee said in a telephone interview late last week.

"We will be working on the [disbursement rules] over the holidays and then we have to get back to the economic managers and the President. By January, we will give the final list [of projects]."

The four projects likely to make the list are:

* the 47.5-kilometer C-6 highway from Bicutan to Meycauyan;
* a "grand central station" on North Avenue and EDSA to complement the planned connection of various rail lines;
* the 11.7-kilometer extension of the LRT Line 1 southward with the addition of eight new stops traversing Parañaque, Las Piñas, and Bacoor in Cavite; and
* the 17.69-kilometer "Skyway 3" which is proposed to run from the end point of Skyway 1, pass through the cities of Manila, Mandaluyong, Quezon, and Caloocan, and terminate at the North Luzon Expressway.

Readiness for immediate implementation, job creation, and contribution to the country’s competitiveness were among the criteria used to pick the projects, PCCI infrastructure committee Chairman Enrico L. Basilio said in a separate telephone interview on Friday.

Asked to comment, former Budget Secretary and now University of the Philippines economist Benjamin E. Diokno said in a text message yesterday: "These large scale projects may be socially desirable but these are not the kind of projects we need now."

"Bid evaluation ... could take months. Assuming no legal wrinkles, winning bidder starts project within few weeks or months. We need to create a lot of jobs now, not a year or two years from now."

University of Asia and the Pacific economist Peter Lee U concurred, saying: "We can’t waste time. I tend to agree that we’ll probably feel the recession more next year.

He also advised that pump priming projects outside Metro Manila be considered.

"Manila has a lot of economic activity," he conceded. "But you have the whole country to look over. I presume they would study which other areas [to include]," Mr. U said in a telephone interview.

He added, "We also need to beef up our education system. We need hard infrastructure but we need to invest in our people as well."

Construction for the central station is targeted to begin as early as March next year, Mr. Basilio said. But the other projects will start work much later.

Construction to extend the LRT Line 1 is scheduled to begin in September 2009, while groundbreaking for Skyway 3 and C-6 is slated for 2011, PCCI documents show.

http://www.bworldonline.com/BW122208/content.php?id=003

Stimulus funding for transport projects

FOUR METRO MANILA transportation projects may be funded next year by a P100-billion initiative that will be jointly financed by the public and private sectors, proponents of the pump-priming plan said.

Some economists, however, say such projects will not have an immediate pump-priming effect because of long bidding processes involved, adding that ventures outside the capital and those targeting education must also be considered.

The four projects — commuter train upgrades and new expressways serving the metropolis — will join at least six other infrastructure proposals under review, the list of which will be finalized next month along with the rules to govern the P100-billion fund, Philippine Chamber of Commerce and Industry (PCCI) Chairman Emeritus Donald G. Dee said.

Half of the stimulus fund, which was announced by President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo as a PCCI proposal in October, will be shouldered by government financial institutions such as the Social Security System (SSS), Government Service Insurance System, and National Development Corp. The private sector will participate by pledging equity in a project via build-operate-transfer schemes or commercial bank loans.

"The President wants [Romulo L. Neri, SSS president and chief executive officer] to oversee the program ... The Development Bank of the Philippines will be the custodian bank," Mr. Dee said in a telephone interview late last week.

"We will be working on the [disbursement rules] over the holidays and then we have to get back to the economic managers and the President. By January, we will give the final list [of projects]."

The four projects likely to make the list are:

* the 47.5-kilometer C-6 highway from Bicutan to Meycauyan;
* a "grand central station" on North Avenue and EDSA to complement the planned connection of various rail lines;
* the 11.7-kilometer extension of the LRT Line 1 southward with the addition of eight new stops traversing Parañaque, Las Piñas, and Bacoor in Cavite; and
* the 17.69-kilometer "Skyway 3" which is proposed to run from the end point of Skyway 1, pass through the cities of Manila, Mandaluyong, Quezon, and Caloocan, and terminate at the North Luzon Expressway.

Readiness for immediate implementation, job creation, and contribution to the country’s competitiveness were among the criteria used to pick the projects, PCCI infrastructure committee Chairman Enrico L. Basilio said in a separate telephone interview on Friday.

Asked to comment, former Budget Secretary and now University of the Philippines economist Benjamin E. Diokno said in a text message yesterday: "These large scale projects may be socially desirable but these are not the kind of projects we need now."

"Bid evaluation ... could take months. Assuming no legal wrinkles, winning bidder starts project within few weeks or months. We need to create a lot of jobs now, not a year or two years from now."

University of Asia and the Pacific economist Peter Lee U concurred, saying: "We can’t waste time. I tend to agree that we’ll probably feel the recession more next year.

He also advised that pump priming projects outside Metro Manila be considered.

"Manila has a lot of economic activity," he conceded. "But you have the whole country to look over. I presume they would study which other areas [to include]," Mr. U said in a telephone interview.

He added, "We also need to beef up our education system. We need hard infrastructure but we need to invest in our people as well."

Construction for the central station is targeted to begin as early as March next year, Mr. Basilio said. But the other projects will start work much later.

Construction to extend the LRT Line 1 is scheduled to begin in September 2009, while groundbreaking for Skyway 3 and C-6 is slated for 2011, PCCI documents show.


Ulit?! Hindi ba isang malaking graba na ang C-6 pero sa 2011 pa pala groundbreaking? Akala ko completion date...

Construction to extend LRT1 to begin in September 2009. Ok, I'll wait for that. :yes:

^^ Siguraduhin lang nila kasi mukhang dekada ang inantay ko para dito...but Cavitenyos also have to face the traffic that the construction would bring..

trapik na allong trapik pa!

^^ Sad truth. Hopefully, by that time, the Manila-Cavite Expressway extension is already opened (by 2nd quarter of 2009) so the volume of the PUV's will be lessened along Aguinaldo Highway.

^^ Sad truth. Hopefully, by that time, the Manila-Cavite Expressway extension is already opened (by 2nd quarter of 2009) so the volume of the PUV's will be lessened along Aguinaldo Highway.

So we hope that the extension would be open by June 2009. The most.

Ulit?! Hindi ba isang malaking graba na ang C-6 pero sa 2011 pa pala groundbreaking? Akala ko completion date...

OT: Oo nga eh, akala ko nung una matatapos na ang C-6 road by 2011, pero..., hay..., groundbreaking pa lang pala..., kailangan na rin kasi naming mga taga-Rizal ito dahil sa lalong tumitinding trapik dito:ohno:
Of course makakatulong din ito para sa decongestion of Metro Manila:okay:

"Bid evaluation ... could take months. Assuming no legal wrinkles, winning bidder starts project within few weeks or months. We need to create a lot of jobs now, not a year or two years from now."

Construction for the central station is targeted to begin as early as March next year, Mr. Basilio said. But the other projects will start work much later.



I do notice that compared to other countries, construction of infrastructure projects in the Philippines starts pretty fast once the bidder wins. We have numerous stimulus packages happening all over North America but even if the government announces the winning bidders tomorrow with funding at hand, it still takes a while before shovels actually gets on the ground. This especially in rail projects where, if the project is awarded tomorrow with guaranteed funding, nothing happens for at least two years!!!

For our LRT1 North extension, bidding wasn't even completed for all components (and the length of time for the LRT1 North extension's bidding is nothing unusual) but construction pretty much started fairly quickly because of political will. For those of us following this project carefully, it did seem long but to put things into perspective, the 11 km Evergreen Line in Coquitlam, Canada, planning started in 1970 and even if the Federal government of Canada funds it on the January budget and succeeds the political hurdle, construction still wont' start at the earliest 2011 with completion date on 2014. By that time, you can surely travel from Novaliches to Bacoor by rail. :nuts:


On another note, I can't wait for the Grand Central Station start construction, just because of sheer morbid curiousity on how it will be implemented. The one thing annoying about our LRT projects is we simply have NO RENDERINGS for the most part and what we forsee is pure speculation... :gaah:

As of 1130pm earlier, there are pink fences covering both the north and south bound's inner lanes of EDSA as they remove lamp posts on the Munoz and SM Annex areas.

Mayroon nang mga bigating cranes dito sa Monumento at wala nang mga puno... puro hukay na...

Ano na nga palang balita sa Bagong Barrio station? Ibigay na kasi para mapakinabangan naman ng Caloocan. Sila dadaanan hindi naman makikinabang ang lungsod. Buti pa NLEx, kahit maliit na exit lang sa Baesa ang binigay sa amin ayos na... ito ang ganda ng rason ni Robles e. Dahil sa malaki ang gagastusin? E papaano naman kami at saka mababawi niyo rin iyan dahil sandamakmak ang mga taong sasakay sa Bagong Barrio station.

Anyway, mga pictures nung rally:

http://www.caloocancity.gov.ph/images/content/11-2-08_lrt.jpg

http://www.caloocancity.gov.ph/images/content/11-2-08_lrt002.jpg

http://www.caloocancity.gov.ph/images/content/11-2-08_lrt003.jpg

http://www.caloocancity.gov.ph/images/content/11-2-08_lrt004.jpg

^^ Hindi manhid ang mga taga-Bagong Barrio...good mob! :okay: Talagang the people demands it. Its better to have that kind of action rather than no action at all...

Mayroon nang mga bigating cranes dito sa Monumento at wala nang mga puno... puro hukay na...

Ano na nga palang balita sa Bagong Barrio station? Ibigay na kasi para mapakinabangan naman ng Caloocan. Sila dadaanan hindi naman makikinabang ang lungsod. Buti pa NLEx, kahit maliit na exit lang sa Baesa ang binigay sa amin ayos na... ito ang ganda ng rason ni Robles e. Dahil sa malaki ang gagastusin? E papaano naman kami at saka mababawi niyo rin iyan dahil sandamakmak ang mga taong sasakay sa Bagong Barrio station.

^^ LRT officials have taken note of the request and that has been elevated as an important issue/concern for the project.

Project Status (as of December 12, 2008)

Issues/Concerns

Construction permit has been filed with Caloocan City by the Contractor but clearance has not yet been issued pending request to relocate the station to Bagong Barrio.

^^ LRT officials have taken note of the request and that has been elevated as an important issue/concern for the project.

Hay, 'wag lang sana noted (parang sa mga hearing ng Senado at Kongreso...) ang maging status ng dagdag na istasyon sa Bagong Barrio...

^^ Hindi manhid ang mga taga-Bagong Barrio...good mob! :okay: Talagang the people demands it. Its better to have that kind of action rather than no action at all...

^^ Sana ganyan din sa PNR Northrail at Southrail para mapahiya ang mga against dito dahil sa so-called "overpricing."

Sayang naman yung mga puno na hinukay along edsa. napansin ko lang nawala na tuloy yung nature touch dyan sa edsa.

pero malaking tulong din naman sa traffic. sana gawa sila sa sidewalk ng bagong landscape.

Kailan ba matatapos yang LRT ext.?

Sayang naman yung mga puno na hinukay along edsa. napansin ko lang nawala na tuloy yung nature touch dyan sa edsa.

pero malaking tulong din naman sa traffic. sana gawa sila sa sidewalk ng bagong landscape.

Kailan ba matatapos yang LRT ext.?

Ibabalik nila yung mga puno pagkatapos ng construction. Sana nga sa pagtatanim ulit ng mga bagong puno e bagong design naman sa median ng EDSA lalo na sa may Balintawak Market.

Mayroon nang mga bigating cranes dito sa Monumento at wala nang mga puno... puro hukay na...

Ano na nga palang balita sa Bagong Barrio station? Ibigay na kasi para mapakinabangan naman ng Caloocan. Sila dadaanan hindi naman makikinabang ang lungsod. Buti pa NLEx, kahit maliit na exit lang sa Baesa ang binigay sa amin ayos na... ito ang ganda ng rason ni Robles e. Dahil sa malaki ang gagastusin? E papaano naman kami at saka mababawi niyo rin iyan dahil sandamakmak ang mga taong sasakay sa Bagong Barrio station.

Anyway, mga pictures nung rally:

http://www.caloocancity.gov.ph/images/content/11-2-08_lrt.jpg

http://www.caloocancity.gov.ph/images/content/11-2-08_lrt002.jpg

http://www.caloocancity.gov.ph/images/content/11-2-08_lrt003.jpg

http://www.caloocancity.gov.ph/images/content/11-2-08_lrt004.jpg

People have the sole right to demand these things from their representatives for they are public servants. :)

But I don't think they have the right to inconvenience hundreds of thousands of commuters just to air their grievances by blocking EDSA...

^^Yes I agree,they could have protested in the main office of LRT.That's mob mentality they showed!!Kakahiya!!:ohno:

^^ Dapat ngang gawin yan eh...sa mga daanan ng Trece Martires City...kasi if sa Aguinaldo Highway yan gagawin...baka rebolusyon ang mangyayari...:lol: :lol:

Cavitenyos should be active in alleviating the mass transport by lobbying the LRT south extension before as a priority but most keep mum as they either don't care or fear the wrath of the political warlords.

^^Was actually hoping they will get a PNR line in Cavite to Batangas etc.,etc.,pero mukhang malabo:) Imagine going to the beaches of Batangas via rail.Sayang:ohno:

But I don't think they have the right to inconvenience hundreds of thousands of commuters just to air their grievances by blocking EDSA...

True :)

wow ang bilis naman, tapos na ang old thread. Anyway perhaps someone can list down the exact accurate status of :
LRT1 extension to North Edsa
LRT1 extension to Cavite
MRT3 buyout and new trains
LRT 7 new line to Novaliches
LRT2 extension to Cogeo

That way we're all on the same page with this thread.

Hay naku! Kailan magsstart ang LRT1 extension to Cavite???! It's more than a decade na ni isang hollow block WALA! I remember that time na may newsletter na pinamimigay si Manny Villar (Congressman pa siya nun, around 1997 when Las Piñas is converted into a highly urbanized city) at nakalagay dun na magkakaroon na ng LRT going to Cavite passing by Las Piñas by 2000. Hello, papasok na ang 2009!! Naunahan pa siya ng LRT 1 extension sa North EDSA. Aba, mukha yatang less priority yung extension to Cavite! Kaya no wonder na walang matinong transport system going to the south lalo na pag nagkahirapang sumakay. WE REALLY NEED IT!!!

Mahirap pala if opposition province ka pala....hay...oh well life. It may just be my opinion or speculation but its really what the Cavitenyos know about politicians here.

Mahirap pala if opposition province ka pala....hay...oh well life. It may just be my opinion or speculation but its really what the Cavitenyos know about politicians here.

Paano, batuhan ng putik e...

Mahirap pala if opposition province ka pala....hay...oh well life. It may just be my opinion or speculation but its really what the Cavitenyos know about politicians here.

Bernie, sa sunod election, sabihin duon sa mga tao na tatanggapin ang pera pagkatapus bubuto sa polotico nga hindi nagbigay. Vote out the crooks which are almost half of them. Free money parang tax refunds.

Oh! I found pics of the only underground LRT station courtesy of our own habagatcentral1.

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/4/photos/174/600x600/1/P5251911.JPG?et=0pFI%2CL%2CEIQgWwBRwA%2BbOTw&nmid=97827103

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/3/photos/174/600x600/3/P5251913.JPG?et=aDsdelluJkwo7Bu%2CKo3CHQ&nmid=97827103

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/3/photos/174/600x600/4/P5251915.JPG?et=tSbKdfaM%2BRT5JzXwpVZGaA&nmid=97827103

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/3/photos/174/600x600/6/P5251917.JPG?et=e65m8IM96LWNuw3TZh1%2BRA&nmid=97827103

This is the first time I've seen this and it does truly look like a subway. Too bad the entire network wasn't made like this.

^^

hindi ba considered as underground station ang buendia ng mrt 3? hehe

Oh! I found pics of the only underground LRT station courtesy of our own habagatcentral1.

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/4/photos/174/600x600/1/P5251911.JPG?et=0pFI%2CL%2CEIQgWwBRwA%2BbOTw&nmid=97827103


And for a moment there, I thought that was really Bernie in the foreground. :lol:

Oh! I found pics of the only underground LRT station courtesy of our own habagatcentral1.

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/4/photos/174/600x600/1/P5251911.JPG?et=0pFI%2CL%2CEIQgWwBRwA%2BbOTw&nmid=97827103

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/3/photos/174/600x600/3/P5251913.JPG?et=aDsdelluJkwo7Bu%2CKo3CHQ&nmid=97827103

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/3/photos/174/600x600/4/P5251915.JPG?et=tSbKdfaM%2BRT5JzXwpVZGaA&nmid=97827103

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/3/photos/174/600x600/6/P5251917.JPG?et=e65m8IM96LWNuw3TZh1%2BRA&nmid=97827103

This is the first time I've seen this and it does truly look like a subway. Too bad the entire network wasn't made like this.

oooooh I remembered this place, bernie took me there, this is where I formulated my ramdam ang kaunlaran poster-idea....

Providing Metro-Manila and the outskirts a modern mass transport rail and railway system (http://positivenewsmedia.net/am2/publish/Business_19/Providing_Metro-Manila_and_the_outskirts_a_modern_mass_transport_rail_and_railway_system.shtml)
Source: Positive News Media (http://positivenewsmedia.net/am2/publish/Business_19/Providing_Metro-Manila_and_the_outskirts_a_modern_mass_transport_rail_and_railway_system.shtml)

By Lynda B. Valencia

MANILA, Dec. 27 (PNA) -– The Department of Transportation and Communications (DOTC) has focused its attention to the country’s rail and railways system.

DOTC Secretary Leando R. Mendoza, said for 2008, the department’s program for its railway operations and development has been in the expansion, extension, rehabilitation, and construction.

For Line I North Extension Project, closing the Metro Rail Transit (MRT) 3 and Light Rail Transit (LRT) I loop, the department has allotted some Php6.32 billion.

The project involves the construction of a 5.71 kilometer elevated seamless line from Monumento station of Line 1 to North Avenue station of Line 3.

The department has secured from the Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH) excavation and grounding permits with 32 tests pits excavated at Caloocan area and 34 bored piles done in Balintawak area.

Procurement process, at the same time, is ongoing for the electrical and mechanical systems for packages EMS-Package C (revised), EMS-1 (signal), MES-3 (automated fare collection), and EMS-4 (track works).

Mendoza, said MRT 3 will not increase its fares to help commuters cope with the current economic realities but hastened to add that the government is looking at the possibility of buying decommissioned but available second-hand trains from Europe. “The mass rail systems in Europe, particularly in Venice, Austria and Germany, had changed their trains and we are looking at buying the old trains.”

The department is also looking at buying brand new trains. Industry pricing for brand new train couch is about US$ 3 million. “So if the government wants to buy 73 trains, then just multiply that by US$ 3 million and you get the price.”

At present the government subsidizes the operations of the MRT with an average of Php40 per passenger, who only pays Php15 from Taft Avenue in Pasay City to North EDSA in Quezon City.

The Joint Foreign Chambers (JFC) of the Philippines has asked the government to implement the LRT 1 South extension project bidding in order to help business in the Cavite southern Manila area.

It (JFC) said “the project was conceived and has been under discussion for over a decade. Although the last two administrations were unable to implement it, the time is rigth for the Arroyo administration to do so, as part of the strong emphasis of the DOTC on modernizing and expanding rail transportation.”

For MRT 7 project, the department has allotted the amount of Php61.75 billion. It is a 23 kilometer line and will be constructed at the North Avenue to San Jose del Monte, Bulacan.

The project involves the financing, design, construction, testing, commissioning and operation and maintenance of an integrated transportation system consisting of Intermodal Transportation (ITT) and MRT system through Build Gradual Transfer and Maintain (BGTOM) arrangement. The BGTOM was signed on June 18, 2008.

Aside from the expansion of current services of the LRT, more are now being implemented. One of these is the Northrail Section I, Phase I project. It runs from Caloocan City to Malolos, Bulacan, along a 32.2 kilometer double track, at grade and elevated carriageway. It will be utilizing diesel-powered locomotives/rolling stocks, with project cost estimated at Php27.667 billion (US$ 452.32 million) financed by China Export-Import Bank.

The second one is the Northrail-Southrail Linkage Project or the South Manila Commuter Railway Project which runs from Caloocan City to Alabang, Muntinlupa..

It seeks to rehabilitate the 34 kilometer line along its old route. Estimated to cost US$ 50.42 million, it is funded by Korean Import-Export Bank (KEXIM). p>More projects are under evaluation and final approval by the National Economic and Development Authority (NEDA) and other concerned agencies. These include the MRT 3 Capacity Expansion project, LRT Line I South Extension Project from Baclaran to Bacoor, Cavite, LRT Line 2 East Extension from Santolan Extension in Marikina City to Masinag in Antipolo City and LRT Line I Airport Extension Project from the Baclaran station to NAIA Terminal 3.

Plans are also afoot to implement the South Manila Commuter Railway Project that will extend from Alabang, Muntinlupa to Calamba, Laguna; and the Southrail and Sorsogon Extension Line-Phase I running from Calamba City, Laguna to Lucena City, Quezon Province. (PNA)

Providing Metro-Manila and the outskirts a modern mass transport rail and railway system (http://positivenewsmedia.net/am2/publish/Business_19/Providing_Metro-Manila_and_the_outskirts_a_modern_mass_transport_rail_and_railway_system.shtml)
Source: Positive News Media (http://positivenewsmedia.net/am2/publish/Business_19/Providing_Metro-Manila_and_the_outskirts_a_modern_mass_transport_rail_and_railway_system.shtml)

By Lynda B. Valencia

MANILA, Dec. 27 (PNA) -– The Department of Transportation and Communications (DOTC) has focused its attention to the country’s rail and railways system.

DOTC Secretary Leando R. Mendoza, said for 2008, the department’s program for its railway operations and development has been in the expansion, extension, rehabilitation, and construction.

For Line I North Extension Project, closing the Metro Rail Transit (MRT) 3 and Light Rail Transit (LRT) I loop, the department has allotted some Php6.32 billion.

The project involves the construction of a 5.71 kilometer elevated seamless line from Monumento station of Line 1 to North Avenue station of Line 3.

The department has secured from the Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH) excavation and grounding permits with 32 tests pits excavated at Caloocan area and 34 bored piles done in Balintawak area.

Procurement process, at the same time, is ongoing for the electrical and mechanical systems for packages EMS-Package C (revised), EMS-1 (signal), MES-3 (automated fare collection), and EMS-4 (track works).

Mendoza, said MRT 3 will not increase its fares to help commuters cope with the current economic realities but hastened to add that the government is looking at the possibility of buying decommissioned but available second-hand trains from Europe. “The mass rail systems in Europe, particularly in Venice, Austria and Germany, had changed their trains and we are looking at buying the old trains.”

The department is also looking at buying brand new trains. Industry pricing for brand new train couch is about US$ 3 million. “So if the government wants to buy 73 trains, then just multiply that by US$ 3 million and you get the price.”

At present the government subsidizes the operations of the MRT with an average of Php40 per passenger, who only pays Php15 from Taft Avenue in Pasay City to North EDSA in Quezon City.

The Joint Foreign Chambers (JFC) of the Philippines has asked the government to implement the LRT 1 South extension project bidding in order to help business in the Cavite southern Manila area.

It (JFC) said “the project was conceived and has been under discussion for over a decade. Although the last two administrations were unable to implement it, the time is rigth for the Arroyo administration to do so, as part of the strong emphasis of the DOTC on modernizing and expanding rail transportation.”

For MRT 7 project, the department has allotted the amount of Php61.75 billion. It is a 23 kilometer line and will be constructed at the North Avenue to San Jose del Monte, Bulacan.

The project involves the financing, design, construction, testing, commissioning and operation and maintenance of an integrated transportation system consisting of Intermodal Transportation (ITT) and MRT system through Build Gradual Transfer and Maintain (BGTOM) arrangement. The BGTOM was signed on June 18, 2008.

Aside from the expansion of current services of the LRT, more are now being implemented. One of these is the Northrail Section I, Phase I project. It runs from Caloocan City to Malolos, Bulacan, along a 32.2 kilometer double track, at grade and elevated carriageway. It will be utilizing diesel-powered locomotives/rolling stocks, with project cost estimated at Php27.667 billion (US$ 452.32 million) financed by China Export-Import Bank.

The second one is the Northrail-Southrail Linkage Project or the South Manila Commuter Railway Project which runs from Caloocan City to Alabang, Muntinlupa..

It seeks to rehabilitate the 34 kilometer line along its old route. Estimated to cost US$ 50.42 million, it is funded by Korean Import-Export Bank (KEXIM). p>More projects are under evaluation and final approval by the National Economic and Development Authority (NEDA) and other concerned agencies. These include the MRT 3 Capacity Expansion project, LRT Line I South Extension Project from Baclaran to Bacoor, Cavite, LRT Line 2 East Extension from Santolan Extension in Marikina City to Masinag in Antipolo City and LRT Line I Airport Extension Project from the Baclaran station to NAIA Terminal 3.

Plans are also afoot to implement the South Manila Commuter Railway Project that will extend from Alabang, Muntinlupa to Calamba, Laguna; and the Southrail and Sorsogon Extension Line-Phase I running from Calamba City, Laguna to Lucena City, Quezon Province. (PNA)




SEE every year <in and out> we get all this summary of plans and DREAMS... and yet we cannot even see even 1 project completed from that list... it seems its all press and publicity... if all talk of infra is serious then why just now that the financial crisis is kicking in? why not start from the previous financial crisis of 1997? see, LRT 1 South extension talk started 1996 , and now still all talk... i mean... we die looking at these things blahhed all over the papers every time but NO SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENT WORK has been made. NEDA DOTC DPWH LRT PNR MRT PNCC DOF DBM : the NATIONAL government, should you be really concerned about mass transit and really want to at least minimize traffic in the metro, you should stop the talking and just build and make , execute ANCIENT plans. From Cory to Ramos to Erap to Gloria, where is all the mass transit infra? It's like per administration only 5% gets done about the rail plans... so its already 20% from Cory to now (1986-2008) that is 22 years, so the remaining 80% ? (16 more presidents? , 6 years each?, 96 more years == 2104) wow i should be dead by then... Just stop the talk. start building... my taxes are going nowhere...

^^ though we are seeing the lrt loop being constructed now, as well as the pnr, and the ROW for lrt 1 south extension.. now we can surmise that the current government is not all talk... so patience, we will get there..

^^ though we are seeing the lrt loop being constructed now, as well as the pnr, and the ROW for lrt 1 south extension.. now we can surmise that the current government is not all talk... so patience, we will get there..

A simple explanation:

LRT LINE 1 SOUTH EXTENSION: 1996

LRT - MRT CONNECTION: 2000's

Ubos na ang pasensya ng mga taga South sa tagal! And I would like to quote sushi____ "SEE every year <in and out> we get all this summary of plans and DREAMS... and yet we cannot even see even 1 project completed from that list... it seems its all press and publicity... if all talk of infra is serious then why just now that the financial crisis is kicking in? why not start from the previous financial crisis of 1997? see, LRT 1 South extension talk started 1996 , and now still all talk... i mean... we die looking at these things blahhed all over the papers every time but NO SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENT WORK has been made. NEDA DOTC DPWH LRT PNR MRT PNCC DOF DBM : the NATIONAL government, should you be really concerned about mass transit and really want to at least minimize traffic in the metro, you should stop the talking and just build and make , execute ANCIENT plans. From Cory to Ramos to Erap to Gloria, where is all the mass transit infra? It's like per administration only 5% gets done about the rail plans... so its already 20% from Cory to now (1986-2008) that is 22 years, so the remaining 80% ? (16 more presidents? , 6 years each?, 96 more years == 2104) wow i should be dead by then... Just stop the talk. start building... my taxes are going nowhere..."