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venntro

February 3rd, 2009, 09:01 AM

Body found on MRT station (http://http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/metro/view_article.php?article_id=186875)
By Allison Lopez
Philippine Daily Inquirer

MANILA, Philippines – The body of a 24-year-old janitor was found inside the stockroom of the EDSA-Guadalupe MRT station early Sunday, police said Sunday.

Inspector Tomas Chu, head of the Makati police homicide section, said Roderick Castro of Balara, Quezon City, was found dead by a co-worker around 3:50 a.m.

Initial investigation by Senior Police Officer 2 Danny Ortega showed that the victim was last seen alive at 1:30 a.m. as he entered the stockroom to rest.

Janitress Mila Cardino told authorities that she saw Castro lying on the stockroom's floor as she made her way to the restroom beside it.

When the victim remained motionless despite efforts to rouse him, the witness alerted the MRT's security guard, who informed the police.

Although no external injuries were found on the young man's body, Chu said they were awaiting the results of an autopsy to determine the cause of death.

ona

February 3rd, 2009, 11:00 AM

^^I am actually expecting it to be finished around 2011 pero syempre mas maganda kung earlier...yung Grand Central Terminal naman partial palang siguro, kasi hihintayin pa nila yung LRT4 at MRT 7

adgaps

February 3rd, 2009, 11:25 AM

^^I am actually expecting it to be finished around 2011 pero syempre mas maganda kung earlier...yung Grand Central Terminal naman partial palang siguro, kasi hihintayin pa nila yung LRT4 at MRT 7

most likely ay hindi pa talaga itatayo yung Grand central Terminal, kasi wala pa yung ibang lines... pero yung Monumento to North na line, baka 2009 nga tapos na... kaso baka mga third or fourth quarter na...

Dreamtofly

February 3rd, 2009, 11:51 AM

most likely ay hindi pa talaga itatayo yung Grand central Terminal, kasi wala pa yung ibang lines... pero yung Monumento to North na line, baka 2009 nga tapos na... kaso baka mga third or fourth quarter na...

if ever the grandcentral station will not be built. does the LRT will add new station in north or they will use the existing MRT north station?

ona

February 3rd, 2009, 12:01 PM

^^That's the mystery...Baka gawan nila ng sarilig station yung LRT 1 extension malapit sa SM North Edsa kasi masyado nang masikip yung MRT sa tapat ng TriNoma

queetz@home

February 4th, 2009, 12:18 AM

^^ The original plan seems to be that they were to build a terminus station for LRT1 that will be "beside" the terminus station of MRT3. Note the wiki article below, which hasn't been updated to take the Grand Central Station proposal into account.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Avenue_LRT_Station

The question is what defines as "beside" as it could mean that it would end at where the Grand Central Station is to be placed at, which would mean a LONG walk from MRT3 and LRT1 (hey, LRT2 and LRT1 transfer point in Recto, as well as MRT3 and LRT2 transfer points in Cubao could be almost as far to walk to and from, if not even farther). I also see various statements saying "improvements to the MRT3 terminus station" is included from time to time.

TBH, if this Grand Central station plan wasn't unveiled, how the LRT1 would end is anyone's guess. It would be nice if they just physically connect the tracks and have LRT1 end at the existing MRT3 station, perhaps on the side heading towards Makati (like how it is in the Grand Central Station renderings). But the MRT3 North Ave station really sucks so it really needs to be improved if that was the plan...

I think the Grand Central Station could be partially built, and a photo from RyanR taken on Jan 11 seem to imply that the LRT1 guideways is going beyond the location of the proposed Grand CEntral Station and turning towards the existing MRT3 tail track...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v735/GreyX/IMG_1303.jpg

An updated photo of the area near SM North and Trinoma would help determine its true end point, at least to see if additional markers (those pink squared fences to mark where the columns would be) were added since last month...hopefully implying that they would indeed link with the existing MRT3 tail track.. ;)

chris_nigel

February 4th, 2009, 01:56 AM

tatanganlin ba tong mga footbridges na to? syang ha milyon din yan dapat d na lang kaso mukhang sagabal talaga yan

nayki

February 4th, 2009, 02:18 AM

^^Kung sakali mang tangalin iyong footbridge, base sa design nya mukhang reusable iyong mgaplatforms nya. So di naman siguro masasayang totally.

venntro

February 4th, 2009, 04:12 AM

tatanganlin ba tong mga footbridges na to? syang ha milyon din yan dapat d na lang kaso mukhang sagabal talaga yan

^^ I hope so. Let's hope that when they design the new stations, they have walkways exclusively for pedestrians crossing to the other side. I hpe these walkways are made separate from the MRT/LRT platforms in such a way that they have separate entrances. The present stations require pedestrians to commingle with MRT commuters in entering the stations just to go across the other side.

johnmizer

February 4th, 2009, 05:25 AM

mukha mas didilim pa ito comapred sa shaw crossing

han742

February 4th, 2009, 05:38 AM

kailangan nilang samantalahin ang magandang panahon bago pa man umabot ang tag-ulan, sa nakikita ko naman paspasan din ang gawaan, kahit gabi o madaling araw may ginagawa sa kahabaan ng EDSA Monumento hanggang North Ave.

venntro

February 4th, 2009, 06:11 AM

mukha mas didilim pa ito comapred sa shaw crossing

^^ Looks like it. That's why the preferred design should always be underground like in other countries. Almost all Grand Central stations in other countries are underground not only due to aesthetics but also to accommodate the expected huge volume of foot traffic.

chris_nigel

February 4th, 2009, 07:09 AM

oo nga eh naku laging gabi dyan never ng ssikatan ng araw yang lugar na yan dudumi pa just like all the roads under the lrt stations tapos grand pa yan..d grand panget din yun ilalim nya

rapuy

February 4th, 2009, 07:13 AM

^^ Kaya nga, as I thought, elevated yung front ng SM north, para hindi masyado matakpan and to accommodate easy access for pedestrians. That is kung final na yung plan ng grand central station.

flymordecai

February 4th, 2009, 12:12 PM

Holy crap, those footbridges are eyesores. MMDA/Bayani needs to take a class on the color wheel.

renell

February 4th, 2009, 12:20 PM

^ imo, the least of my worries. Color schmolor. I mean he's not emo so no worries. From my perspective those footbridges keeps heavy traffic on EDSA ticking along without pedestrians trying to board busses, jeepneys or crossing the road.

ona

February 4th, 2009, 11:44 PM

mukha mas didilim pa ito comapred sa shaw crossing

Kaya madilim yung Shaw station ng Mrt kasi flanked ng dalawang building yung roadside. dito naman sa SM North - TriNoma area medyo malawak yung easment dahil parking lot ng TriNoma at SM sky-garden ang katapat ng Grand Central Terminal. Matakot nalang talaga tayo sa Traffic dyan at dami ng tao pag natapos pero I know SM & TriNoma will cooperate by providing complimentary facilities that will accomodate the inflow of people

Planning Democracy

February 5th, 2009, 07:01 AM

Something should be done about the MRT Ortigas Station on the ADB side.

Problem:

People are forced to go down on EDSA from the sidewalk when crossing from Megamall to the Galleria side. Now that there are fences, only one person can cross at a time and they would have to balance themselves on the curb. Totally weird and very inconsiderate to the pedestrians and passengers of the MRT.

Possible solutions:

1) Appropriate or have ADB donate a portion of their property to accommodate a new sidewalk. If you look at what's behind that wall its merely a parking lot and some landscaping.

2) An elevated walkway similar to those found in Glorietta or Araneta Center connecting the station to Megamall and to Galleria.

Its probably gonna cost a lot since the wall has to be demolished and rebuilt (given its height it will probably cost more than a million), and then you have to factor in the cost of the appropriated land. Even more when you build the elevated walkways.

But these improvements would sure make access to the station a lot more convenient and safe. Maybe this could be a joint funding venture between the LGU, MRT, ADB, and maybe even SM and Robinson's if they want to have a walkway attached to their buildings.

Some unsolicited designs and solutions please!

rapuy

February 5th, 2009, 07:03 AM

Kaya madilim yung Shaw station ng Mrt kasi flanked ng dalawang building yung roadside. dito naman sa SM North - TriNoma area medyo malawak yung easment dahil parking lot ng TriNoma at SM sky-garden ang katapat ng Grand Central Terminal. Matakot nalang talaga tayo sa Traffic dyan at dami ng tao pag natapos pero I know SM & TriNoma will cooperate by providing complimentary facilities that will accomodate the inflow of people

^^ Oo nga... pag nagawa na yang Grand Central Avenue, lalong tatrafic sa north avenue... Sana gawan nila ng flyover mula edsa hanggang mindanao avenue kasi karamihan sa mga sasakyan ay ganito ang routa pag dumadaan dyan.

sushi___

February 5th, 2009, 08:19 AM

la bang balita sa south extension? kala ko priority ito along with northrail this 2009?

sushi___

February 5th, 2009, 08:22 AM

adgaps

February 5th, 2009, 08:27 AM

para hindi maging sindilim ng grand station ang shaw dapat incorporate nila natural lighting... taasan ang poste at parang may mga posts or windows para makapasok sa station at sa ilalim nito... parang isipin na lang na "LOFTY" grand central station... i aint an engineer but i have an idea... just dont know how to draw it... i think it is possible... ngwa sa MOA, at SM baguio... pati sa SM north... oh yes i remember sa Osaka parang may grand station din dun na 3 lines ang gumagamit... hindi madalim... parang mall type underground... basta ganun...

ok yang idea mo poh... maganda na, environment-friendly pa...

venntro

February 5th, 2009, 08:29 AM

^^ Let's hope that the government comes up with a modern design of the Grand Central and not like the existing station designs.

ona

February 5th, 2009, 08:34 AM

para hindi maging sindilim ng grand station ang shaw dapat incorporate nila natural lighting... taasan ang poste at parang may mga posts or windows para makapasok sa station at sa ilalim nito... parang isipin na lang na "LOFTY" grand central station... i aint an engineer but i have an idea... just dont know how to draw it... i think it is possible... ngwa sa MOA, at SM baguio... pati sa SM north... oh yes i remember sa Osaka parang may grand station din dun na 3 lines ang gumagamit... hindi madalim... parang mall type underground... basta ganun...

Confirmed na nga na dun sa tapat ng SM North Edsa yung Grand Central Terminal. SM Moa & SM Baguio can never have a Grand Central Station...moreso Underground because SM MoA is in a bay area & not strategic for a Central MRT station while Baguio is very impractical to have an MRT dahil sa makipot na roads at uneven terrain.

sushi___

February 5th, 2009, 09:39 AM

Confirmed na nga na dun sa tapat ng SM North Edsa yung Grand Central Terminal. SM Moa & SM Baguio can never have a Grand Central Station...moreso Underground because SM MoA is in a bay area & not strategic for a Central MRT station while Baguio is very impractical to have an MRT dahil sa makipot na roads at uneven terrain.

no what i mean is, like MOA, SM baguio and SM north(annex, block), is that they incorporate natural lighting with the Grand Central station sa tapat ng SM north at TriNoma. .. :D

ona

February 5th, 2009, 09:45 AM

^^ah okay...na-gets na kita. Tama trendy na nga ngayon ang Sky-lights sa mga buildings...

mr.suroy

February 5th, 2009, 03:27 PM

sana punong puno ng red lights na nagbblink tulad sa tokyo joke hehe

evilgenius15

February 5th, 2009, 03:44 PM

gayahin sana nila yung parang sa santolan station...
yung design lang mismo... open air...
wala masyadong concrete...

hecky12

February 5th, 2009, 04:23 PM

sa tingin ko hindi dapat yan minamadali kasi mahirap na baka magkaron ng disgrasya at magkaron pa ng opportunity ang opposition na makitaan ng butas ang administration... so wait and see na lang tayo.. pasasaan pa yan kundi magagamit din natin yan pag natapos..

about sa grand central terminal napanood ko nung monday sa unang hirit na sinabi ni ed lacson? na tuloy raw ang grand central station.

parang mali ung ruta ng lrt4. alam ko derederecho yun sa españa hanggang sa d.jose.

siguro nga ganyan ang proposed line ng line4..

Blackraven

February 5th, 2009, 05:32 PM

Wala bang balak gumawa ng Tren from NAIA Terminals 1, 2 & 3 ? :)

To connect between the terminals?

Kung ganun, then ang kelangan mo lang is an APM (automated people mover)

Compared to the other train lines we have in the country, madali lang ang APM. One station per terminal x 3 = 3 stations. And because of shorter proximity/distance between train stations, it is possible that you can add Platform Screen Doors as well (parang sa Hong Kong, Singapore, Japan and other advanced countries).

Here's one example:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_International_Airport_Automated_People_Mover

So indeed, an APM between the different airport terminals ng NAIA is indeed possible in the future (and will be cheaper and easier to implement than our regular train lines) :)

leechtat

February 5th, 2009, 05:49 PM

tatanganlin ba tong mga footbridges na to? syang ha milyon din yan dapat d na lang kaso mukhang sagabal talaga yan

^^ it still can be re-used.. so no worries.. eventually they will have to take that down when construction commences for the physical linking of mrt and lrt..

Something should be done about the MRT Ortigas Station on the ADB side.

Problem:

People are forced to go down on EDSA from the sidewalk when crossing from Megamall to the Galleria side. Now that there are fences, only one person can cross at a time and they would have to balance themselves on the curb. Totally weird and very inconsiderate to the pedestrians and passengers of the MRT.

Possible solutions:

1) Appropriate or have ADB donate a portion of their property to accommodate a new sidewalk. If you look at what's behind that wall its merely a parking lot and some landscaping.

2) An elevated walkway similar to those found in Glorietta or Araneta Center connecting the station to Megamall and to Galleria.

Its probably gonna cost a lot since the wall has to be demolished and rebuilt (given its height it will probably cost more than a million), and then you have to factor in the cost of the appropriated land. Even more when you build the elevated walkways.

But these improvements would sure make access to the station a lot more convenient and safe. Maybe this could be a joint funding venture between the LGU, MRT, ADB, and maybe even SM and Robinson's if they want to have a walkway attached to their buildings.

Some unsolicited designs and solutions please!

^^ i agree... the elevated walk paths would be a costly solution, but it can eventually be lengthened to connect galleria to megamall, once more funding is avail..

part timer

February 5th, 2009, 07:43 PM

http://images.jglaz.multiply.com/image/4/photos/209/1200x1200/7/3vivitar-uws5.jpg?et=5eB%2C5nIDMrrSuLE9h01DTA&nmid=192615515

Taken from royal pedestrian overpass last January.

Planning Democracy

February 6th, 2009, 02:20 AM

To connect between the terminals?

Kung ganun, then ang kelangan mo lang is an APM (automated people mover)

Compared to the other train lines we have in the country, madali lang ang APM. One station per terminal x 3 = 3 stations. And because of shorter proximity/distance between train stations, it is possible that you can add Platform Screen Doors as well (parang sa Hong Kong, Singapore, Japan and other advanced countries).

Here's one example:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_International_Airport_Automated_People_Mover

So indeed, an APM between the different airport terminals ng NAIA is indeed possible in the future (and will be cheaper and easier to implement than our regular train lines) :)

I think there is a proposal to have the LRT1 connect to the NAIA, hopefully the LRT1 would have better looking trains and stations by then so we won't make a bad impression to tourists.

There really should be a people mover to connect those terminals. Other solutions could be a dedicated busway to transfer people around.

Planning Democracy

February 6th, 2009, 02:26 AM

^^ it still can be re-used.. so no worries.. eventually they will have to take that down when construction commences for the physical linking of mrt and lrt..

^^ i agree... the elevated walk paths would be a costly solution, but it can eventually be lengthened to connect galleria to megamall, once more funding is avail..

I think the problem with that station is that its not that critical to build those walkways, however it is one big hassle to the commuters. I'm thinking that if ever those elevated walkways could be built (not the MMDA style walkway but like the one in Glorietta) there would be an increase in passengers at the Ortigas station. Imagine all those people coming from Megamall and Galleria.

But the MRT better have more trains by then...

renell

February 6th, 2009, 07:00 AM

I think there is a proposal to have the LRT1 connect to the NAIA, hopefully the LRT1 would have better looking trains and stations by then so we won't make a bad impression to tourists.

There really should be a people mover to connect those terminals. Other solutions could be a dedicated busway to transfer people around.

you can get around that issue by making it underground. But there's sufficient space in MIA road so I suppose that's not going to be the government's plan. However the problem is that you need to place it where all terminals can have access to it, as well as accommodating a transportation system where passengers can transfer freely between the three terminals, a system that is separate from the LRT.

Buses are the most simple solution, but having a runway between the terminals is an obvious hassle. A tunnel underneath is the obvious solution though obvious doesn't always translate to immediate. How long does it take to go around the secondary runway from T2 to T3?

hecky12

February 6th, 2009, 02:32 PM

traveljunkie

February 6th, 2009, 06:25 PM

han742

February 7th, 2009, 12:38 AM

Things are really looking good and moving fast concerning the rail link project that would connect the LRT Line 1’s Monumento station in Caloocan City with the MRT North Avenue station in Quezon City. Super busy ang area na ito!

Naku! Sinabi mo pa eh napansin ko mga 4 or 5 na ata ung ginagamit nilang "mega-barena" sa kahabaan ng EDSA, ung pinambubutas nila para sa mga pundasyon, anlalaki pa namang heavy equipment ng mga yun, habang pila-pila naman ung mga dump trucks na kumukuha ng lupang nahukay, sana tuluy-tuloy na'to at wag nang harangin ng mga pulitiko, :banana::cheers::banana::cheers::)

venntro

February 7th, 2009, 01:49 AM

shamhoy

February 7th, 2009, 02:27 AM

To connect between the terminals?

Kung ganun, then ang kelangan mo lang is an APM (automated people mover)

Compared to the other train lines we have in the country, madali lang ang APM. One station per terminal x 3 = 3 stations. And because of shorter proximity/distance between train stations, it is possible that you can add Platform Screen Doors as well (parang sa Hong Kong, Singapore, Japan and other advanced countries).

Here's one example:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_International_Airport_Automated_People_Mover

So indeed, an APM between the different airport terminals ng NAIA is indeed possible in the future (and will be cheaper and easier to implement than our regular train lines) :)

I meant a rail link from the Airports (1, 2 & 3) to the nearest MRT/LRT station. Ang hirap kasi paglabas mo sa airport, ang option mo lang ay sumakay sa mga buwayang Airport Taxi o lumabas at maglakad ng malayo para makakuha ng Taxi na madalas ay buwaya din ang tsuper.

hecky12

February 7th, 2009, 04:03 AM

sa palagay ko hindi pwede yung ganyan kasi airport na yan e. alam mo na! mahigpit ang security jan.. at kung ililink siya sa mrt-lrt line e baka malusutan sila ng terorista.

pero agree ako kung gagawan nila ng line form airport to e-city. dapat nga kasama sa plano yung duty free.. ilagay na rin siya dun sa e-city para mas okay.

kaelthas18

February 7th, 2009, 12:14 PM

^^ Let's hope that the government comes up with a modern design of the Grand Central and not like the existing station designs.

oo nga.. the worse is saw na station is the shaw blvd.. of all the station sya lang ung may dos aguas na bubong sa buong mrt line tpos nagmuka pang palengke dahil sa sobra laki.. sana curve nlng ung roofing tulad ng cubao or ayala.. hndi naman malaki ang span eh.. kapangit tlga ng-design nun..ayos ung station inside but sa exterior perspective.. thumbs down..:ohno:

kaelthas18

February 7th, 2009, 12:26 PM

guys tanong lang regarding sa MRT Taft station... kasi napansin ko na may mahabang excess rail dun sa may taft station ng mrt halos umabot na yung dulo ng riles sa taft avenue.. yun ba e balak i-extend sa future?

no.. tlgang up to taft lang ang mrt.. ksi nung ginawa yan wla pa naman MOA nun.. hndi na naisip ng mga planners..

ung excess length na rails ay para un sa buffer stop.. para sa mga terminal stations un.. it means end of the track and para din un sa mga mawawalan ng preno na mga tren..haha:lol::lol:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffer_stops

sa palagay ko hindi pwede yung ganyan kasi airport na yan e. alam mo na! mahigpit ang security jan.. at kung ililink siya sa mrt-lrt line e baka malusutan sila ng terorista.

pero agree ako kung gagawan nila ng line form airport to e-city. dapat nga kasama sa plano yung duty free.. ilagay na rin siya dun sa e-city para mas okay.

ui.. sa singapore meron link ang international airport to the main mrts ha...pwde rin yan sa aten.. ang problem is sana higpitan pa ang security..para din naman sa ikabubuti at ikagiginhawa ng mga commuter and travelers eh...

btw.. sino na ang leading sa dami ng mga metro lines sa Asia? Japan ba?.. i hope di pa tyo natalo ng vietnam, indonesia , thailand and malaysia sa dami ng train lines..haha

kalbongdad

February 7th, 2009, 03:23 PM

no.. tlgang up to taft lang ang mrt.. ksi nung ginawa yan wla pa naman MOA nun.. hndi na naisip ng mga planners..

ung excess length na rails ay para un sa buffer stop.. para sa mga terminal stations un.. it means end of the track and para din un sa mga mawawalan ng preno na mga tren..haha:lol::lol:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffer_stops

ui.. sa singapore meron link ang international airport to the main mrts ha...pwde rin yan sa aten.. ang problem is sana higpitan pa ang security..para din naman sa ikabubuti at ikagiginhawa ng mga commuter and travelers eh...

btw.. sino na ang leading sa dami ng mga metro lines sa Asia? Japan ba?.. i hope di pa tyo natalo ng vietnam, indonesia , thailand and malaysia sa dami ng train lines..haha

kung matatapos natin ang southrail at northrail....magiging 2nd tayo pagdating sa railways.....sa southeast asia.....btw ang pinas ang una sa pagkakaroon ng lrt sa buong southeast asia...yup....una pa tayo sa singapore....we started..1983.....yup sina makoy pa ang nasa pwesto at planet pa ang classification ng pluto noon...i vividly remember dahil student pa ako ng feati at panay ang pakikibaka...libre ang ride noon ng unang binuksan ang lrt....yung singa followed later....yung thailand only had theirs in late 1998 dahil i was in japan then when i picked up the news about thailand having their first mrt sa cnn.....

barrera_marquez

February 7th, 2009, 03:41 PM

First two steel foundations of LRT Extension are up... may nakahanda nang iba pa.

calaguyo

February 7th, 2009, 05:06 PM

btw.. sino na ang leading sa dami ng mga metro lines sa Asia? Japan ba?.. i hope di pa tyo natalo ng vietnam, indonesia , thailand and malaysia sa dami ng train lines..haha

Unfortunately, no MRT system is being listed in Indonesia, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos and Brunei.

Bangkok MRT
http://www.urbanrail.net/as/bang/bangkok-map.gif

Tokyo MRT
http://www.urbanrail.net/as/toky/tokyo-map.gif

Singapore MRT
http://www.urbanrail.net/as/sing/singapore-map.gif

Kuala Lumpur MRT
http://www.urbanrail.net/as/kual/kuala-lumpur-map.gif

Shanghai MRT
http://www.urbanrail.net/as/shan/shanghai-map.gif

Seoul MRT
http://www.urbanrail.net/as/seou/seoul-map-small.gif

aranetacoliseum

February 7th, 2009, 05:08 PM

tuloy na ba ang another station sa bagong barrio??

anakngpasig

February 7th, 2009, 05:28 PM

Unfortunately, no MRT system is being listed in Indonesia, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos and Brunei.

Jakarta doesn't have
a metro system yet
nor do
Hanoi and Saigon.

Sky Harbor

February 7th, 2009, 05:30 PM

^^ Jakarta is building a monorail. Ho Chi Minh City is building a subway.

anakngpasig

February 7th, 2009, 05:33 PM

Jakarta has been
building their metro
system for the longest
time already.

mauunahan pa sila
ng Ho Chi Minh City.

Planning Democracy

February 7th, 2009, 05:45 PM

you can get around that issue by making it underground. But there's sufficient space in MIA road so I suppose that's not going to be the government's plan. However the problem is that you need to place it where all terminals can have access to it, as well as accommodating a transportation system where passengers can transfer freely between the three terminals, a system that is separate from the LRT.

Buses are the most simple solution, but having a runway between the terminals is an obvious hassle. A tunnel underneath is the obvious solution though obvious doesn't always translate to immediate. How long does it take to go around the secondary runway from T2 to T3?

Maybe a transfer station from the NAIA's hypothetical internal people mover to the proposed LRT NAIA station. But that expense would only be justified once tourism and travel to Manila really booms, hopefully in the not so far off future. What about the passengers' luggage? I don't think that's allowed as per today's policies (correct me if I'm wrong).

If PAGCOR can fund a monorail straight to their development then why not, take the gamblers straight to the casinos hehe.

Planning Democracy

February 7th, 2009, 05:47 PM

Does anyone have any data as to where we are in terms of planned railway projects compared to rest of the world or asia? It seems we're experiencing some sort of railway boom. Good for us!

hecky12

February 7th, 2009, 06:13 PM

wow colorful ng mga lines.. sumakit mata ko dun.. nahilo ako... so in summary ilan lines meron yung mga kapitbahay natin sa southeast?

tayo ilan ba? apat? mrt,lrt1-2, and pnr?

Mithril Cloud

February 7th, 2009, 06:35 PM

PNR is commuter rail, so it doesn't count as a metro line. At present we have three lines, which puts us on par on Bangkok, Kuala Lumpur, and Singapore. However, Singapore has 2 lines under construction, and 2 lines under planning.

Sky Harbor

February 7th, 2009, 06:43 PM

Jakarta has been
building their metro
system for the longest
time already.

mauunahan pa sila
ng Ho Chi Minh City.

In the absence of a monorail, Jakarta will have to make do with BRT and commuter rail. Sayang lang kasi sabi daw, sobrang riddled with corruption ang project.

hecky12

February 7th, 2009, 06:52 PM

Sky Harbor

February 7th, 2009, 06:55 PM

Unfortunately, no MRT system is being listed in Indonesia, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos and Brunei.

You forgot Myanmar. :lol:

Cambodia, Laos and Myanmar are too poor to afford metros.

ryanr

February 7th, 2009, 06:59 PM

^^ Jakarta is building a monorail. Ho Chi Minh City is building a subway.

Jakarta's monorail is canceled. Its quite sad really. Abandoned pylons in the middle of the road...and instead of helping improve traffic, they are making it worse by occupying a lane.

lil dreamer boy

February 8th, 2009, 12:13 AM

I just have one observation...

Why didn't we have those lines constructed on side streets?

Because we dont have side street? then why didnt we created side streets?

a bit off topics but .... :D

venntro

February 8th, 2009, 12:57 AM

Jakarta's monorail is canceled. Its quite sad really. Abandoned pylons in the middle of the road...and instead of helping improve traffic, they are making it worse by occupying a lane.

^^ That's correct. People there have to content themselves with their BRT system.

kaelthas18

February 8th, 2009, 02:58 AM

kung matatapos natin ang southrail at northrail....magiging 2nd tayo pagdating sa railways.....sa southeast asia.....btw ang pinas ang una sa pagkakaroon ng lrt sa buong southeast asia...yup....una pa tayo sa singapore....we started..1983.....yup sina makoy pa ang nasa pwesto at planet pa ang classification ng pluto noon...i vividly remember dahil student pa ako ng feati at panay ang pakikibaka...libre ang ride noon ng unang binuksan ang lrt....yung singa followed later....yung thailand only had theirs in late 1998 dahil i was in japan then when i picked up the news about thailand having their first mrt sa cnn.....

i mean the number of metro lines...

tnx calaguyo

kaelthas18

February 8th, 2009, 03:06 AM

Maybe a transfer station from the NAIA's hypothetical internal people mover to the proposed LRT NAIA station. But that expense would only be justified once tourism and travel to Manila really booms, hopefully in the not so far off future. What about the passengers' luggage? I don't think that's allowed as per today's policies (correct me if I'm wrong).

If PAGCOR can fund a monorail straight to their development then why not, take the gamblers straight to the casinos hehe.

dapat magarbo yang Naia station..hehe. pano pag may bitbit na malaking baggage ung pasahero dapat may xray detector na rin cla.. parang sa airport..haha para iwas tagal ksi kung mano mano maghahalungkat pa ung security guard..hehe

Sky Harbor

February 8th, 2009, 03:22 AM

^^ That's correct. People there have to content themselves with their BRT system.

As I said earlier, PT Kereta Api (the state railway company) operates a fairly comprehensive commuter rail system. Probably out of all the countries that operate commuter rail in Southeast Asia, PNR is the worst.

ZIG

February 8th, 2009, 05:24 AM

Jakarta is the biggest city in the world without a metro.

Sky Harbor

February 8th, 2009, 06:46 AM

^^ Actually, the largest city in the world without a metro is Mumbai.

RonnieR

February 8th, 2009, 07:52 AM

^^ Jakarta is building a monorail. Ho Chi Minh City is building a subway.

I think the monorail will no longer be built but Jakarta's first MRT will be constructed soon.

chris_nigel

February 8th, 2009, 08:22 AM

wala pa sila MRT Jakarta? buti na lang nauna tau kaso napag iiwana na

calaguyo

February 8th, 2009, 09:08 AM

dapat magarbo yang Naia station..hehe. pano pag may bitbit na malaking baggage ung pasahero dapat may xray detector na rin cla.. parang sa airport..haha para iwas tagal ksi kung mano mano maghahalungkat pa ung security guard..hehe

Singapore MRT has a station in Changi Airport. However, may limit ang size ng baggage na pwedeng isakay. Besides, bihira naman sa Singapore ang sasakay ng MRT from and to airport, most probably nag tataxi na lang ako.

renell

February 8th, 2009, 12:26 PM

^ the thing with Manila is that it has a comprehensive public road transport system - it's what... 4 tiers? from the inter-province bus, to the inter-city jeep/FX, then the inter-barangay tricycle then the intrer-street pushbike. Its problem is that its not properly organized all under one wing, and the bottom two tiers cause more problems than solves them in some areas of Manila where I stayed when I was there in January.

Dreamtofly

February 8th, 2009, 12:43 PM

Unfortunately, no MRT system is being listed in Indonesia, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos and Brunei.

Bangkok MRT
http://www.urbanrail.net/as/bang/bangkok-map.gif

Tokyo MRT
http://www.urbanrail.net/as/toky/tokyo-map.gif

Singapore MRT
http://www.urbanrail.net/as/sing/singapore-map.gif

Kuala Lumpur MRT
http://www.urbanrail.net/as/kual/kuala-lumpur-map.gif

Shanghai MRT
http://www.urbanrail.net/as/shan/shanghai-map.gif

Seoul MRT
http://www.urbanrail.net/as/seou/seoul-map-small.gif

Hmmmm actually Philippines in all Asian got the first of everything and left behind.

We are the one who have MRT system, we are the one who has airline, and we are the one who has public utility system.

What happen to them? Hope that Filipinos will really change….

AmbutLang

February 8th, 2009, 01:46 PM

Hmmmm actually Philippines in all Asian got the first of everything and left behind.

We are the one who have MRT system, we are the one who has airline, and we are the one who has public utility system.

What happen to them? Hope that Filipinos will really change….

The big question is why are there still many mangurakot sa goberno particularly sa national level. Parang 40% sa budget nandoon sa kanilang mga bulsa. OK lang kung 10%.

han742

February 8th, 2009, 02:01 PM

these pics were taken from old overpass (beside the new overpass here) of Bagong Barrio

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6973/img0477yk0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8011/img0478uv2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/3619/img0480du4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

han742

February 8th, 2009, 02:20 PM

han742

February 8th, 2009, 02:29 PM

Project 7 pedestrian overpass seen here...
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6973/img0469gr6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/5307/img0470us6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::cheers::cheers:

renell

February 8th, 2009, 02:31 PM

I don't want to state the obvious but, those posts are quite elevated.

WawaY[625]

February 8th, 2009, 02:37 PM

Hmmmm actually Philippines in all Asian got the first of everything and left behind.

We are the one who have MRT system, we are the one who has airline, and we are the one who has public utility system.

What happen to them? Hope that Filipinos will really change….

hmmm ok lang, between KL's MRT system and sa Metro Manila, di hamak mas ok ang sa Metro Manila :okay:

evilgenius15

February 8th, 2009, 03:08 PM

meron part sa LRT1 extension na low elevated...
halos 2-4 meters lang ang vertical clearance...

Dreamtofly

February 8th, 2009, 03:10 PM

thoes pic above is really impresing... it so fast... i saw the bagong bario it seem that there is no propose station in that area.

evilgenius15

February 8th, 2009, 03:16 PM

thoes pic above is really impresing... it so fast... i saw the bagong bario it seem that there is no propose station in that area.

kaya siguro wala pa ginagawa doon kasi gumagawa ulit sila ng
master plan para sa bagong barrio station...
kasi nauna na siyempre yung plan doon na posts lang...

adgaps

February 8th, 2009, 03:22 PM

wow! parami n nang parami ang nagagawa nila ah... ok na ok yan...

anakngpasig

February 8th, 2009, 03:50 PM

if there's a will
there really is
a way! this is
unbelievable!

if only, if only
all mrt/rail/road projects
are done as fast
as this project,
malayong malayo
mararating natin
(pun intended).

:banana:

+1 Pinas!

:cheers:

jefflacs

February 8th, 2009, 03:59 PM

I don't want to state the obvious but, those posts are quite elevated.

Adjusted dahil sa mga Pink overpass ng MMDA xD

renell

February 8th, 2009, 04:07 PM

aah ganon ba, diba dun sa lumang parte ng blue line yung mga pedestrian overpass ang na-adjust.

kailan ba ang estimated matatapos?

anakngpasig

February 8th, 2009, 04:09 PM

^^ before gloria
exits her office
daw kasi ito sasakyan
nya pauwi sa kanila

:lol:

hecky12

February 8th, 2009, 04:14 PM

kasing taas ba nito yung lrt2? kasi parang mataas ito talaga compared dun sa existing line1

evilgenius15

February 8th, 2009, 04:18 PM

kasing taas ba nito yung lrt2? kasi parang mataas ito talaga compared dun sa existing line1

nag-iiba iba yung elevation ng rail tracks...

hecky12

February 8th, 2009, 04:28 PM

meaning yung north extension hindi parepareho ang elevation.. hindi siya consistent na mataas lang.

RonnieR

February 8th, 2009, 04:32 PM

I don't want to state the obvious but, those posts are quite elevated.

yeah and better looking, too.

chris_nigel

February 8th, 2009, 04:58 PM

mabilis talaga pag gusto kaya sana lahat ng projects ng govt. ganito kabilis

riles28

February 8th, 2009, 05:01 PM

taken from Balintawak overpass (vehicles here going Monumento)...
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/5300/img0473xx3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

taken from Balintawak overpass...
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7867/img0472aa5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

zoomed...
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1770/img0475qx1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Balintawak ped overpass seen here...
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6545/img0476jw3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

taken from Bagong Barrio overpass towards cloverleaf interchange... no activity yet here...
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1669/img0479ep6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Wow more progress are awaiting base in the picture... Buti pa ang LRT marami ng na accomplishe kumpara sa Northrail na inabot na ng kung ano anong issue. hay minsan nga naisip kung bakit di na lang ipinasa sa LRT management ang pag construct ng northrail malamang walang mangyayaring mga batikos at anomalya malamang mabilis itong magagawa. Base sa picture malamang before 2010 end ay tapos na ang extension ng LRT.

nayki

February 8th, 2009, 06:30 PM

nag-iiba iba yung elevation ng rail tracks...

meaning yung north extension hindi parepareho ang elevation.. hindi siya consistent na mataas lang.

Mukha lang di mag kakapareho ang taas nya kumpara sa actual ground level. Pero with respect to sea level halos magkakapareho ang hieght ng tip nyan sa taas. Hindi kasi parepareho elevation ng edsa may mga part dyan na paakyat. Iyong Design kasi ng LRT hangat maari hindi nila isusunod sa slope ng edsa, kasi mas hirap ang tren pag may mga paakyat aksaya din sa kuryente un. Kaya mas efficient kung consistent ang hieght ng rail track with respect to sea level not with actual ground level.

Dreamtofly

February 9th, 2009, 07:07 AM

hecky12

February 9th, 2009, 09:10 AM

Mukha lang di mag kakapareho ang taas nya kumpara sa actual ground level. Pero with respect to sea level halos magkakapareho ang hieght ng tip nyan sa taas. Hindi kasi parepareho elevation ng edsa may mga part dyan na paakyat. Iyong Design kasi ng LRT hangat maari hindi nila isusunod sa slope ng edsa, kasi mas hirap ang tren pag may mga paakyat aksaya din sa kuryente un. Kaya mas efficient kung consistent ang hieght ng rail track with respect to sea level not with actual ground level.

thanks for answering my question.. kasi diba yung lrt na nasa taft and rizal avenue e parang consistent yung level niya.. mejo may baba lang na part somewhere carriedo station going monumento the rest e pantay.. yung sa edsa kasi tama ka hindi consistent yung level niya kasi nga naisunod sa slope ng edsa..

flip2_0

February 9th, 2009, 10:29 AM

I don't want to state the obvious but, those posts are quite elevated.

which is a good thing, EDSA won't be as dark as Taft and Rizal Avenues... plus a lot wider.

venntro

February 9th, 2009, 10:33 AM

which is a good thing, EDSA won't be as dark as Taft and Rizal Avenues... plus a lot wider.

^^ Let's hope so plus landscaping should still be there under the columns.

evilgenius15

February 9th, 2009, 12:33 PM

ZIG

February 9th, 2009, 12:41 PM

;31972658']hmmm ok lang, between KL's MRT system and sa Metro Manila, di hamak mas ok ang sa Metro Manila :okay:

why did you say so?

han742

February 9th, 2009, 01:21 PM

thanks for answering my question.. kasi diba yung lrt na nasa taft and rizal avenue e parang consistent yung level niya.. mejo may baba lang na part somewhere carriedo station going monumento the rest e pantay.. yung sa edsa kasi tama ka hindi consistent yung level niya kasi nga naisunod sa slope ng edsa..

I think may kaugnayan din kasi un sa design, ung LRT-1 kasi masyadong mabigat ang istruktura at ginawa sa mga panahon na hindi pa gaanong advanced ang mga gamit, nung ginawa na ung MRT-3 at LRT-2 dun na talaga lumabas ang mga makabagong approach sa disenyo ng mga istruktura. Maaring matataas nga ang mga posteng ito pero wag ka, kung makikita mo lang kung gaano kalalim ang pundasyon ng mga posteng ito, kung gaano yata kataas sa ibabaw eh ganun din naman kalalim sa ilalim ng lupa.
Yung bandang nasa tapat ng Destileria Limtuaco sa pagitan ng Oliveros Drive at Royal, ay may kababaan ang mga poste dahil medyo mataas ang lugar na ito. Kailangan din talagang habulin na pantay ang takbo ng tren.
I'm just hoping na sana magtuluy-tuloy na ito,
:):):cheers::):)

nico216

February 9th, 2009, 02:21 PM

Wow more progress are awaiting base in the picture... Buti pa ang LRT marami ng na accomplishe kumpara sa Northrail na inabot na ng kung ano anong issue. hay minsan nga naisip kung bakit di na lang ipinasa sa LRT management ang pag construct ng northrail malamang walang mangyayaring mga batikos at anomalya malamang mabilis itong magagawa. Base sa picture malamang before 2010 end ay tapos na ang extension ng LRT.

this april na nga ang deadline nito e. haha

kennethologist

February 9th, 2009, 02:56 PM

What is the problem having a high elevation? As far as our concern as long as it is strong enough and usable this is the more important.

I really appreciate the speed of the construction but this is just a post. There are still more thing to be done. Post is only the foundation or the beginning, so please cross your fingers for more things to come.

actually, the girdles (correct me if i'm wrong but it's the thing that will connect the pillars and will hold the train) is now in production: the work is done in parallel with the pillars so that when the pillars are done, all they need to do is make patong! and voila! LRT Extension!

renell

February 9th, 2009, 02:59 PM

I really appreciate the speed of the construction but this is just a post. There are still more thing to be done. Post is only the foundation or the beginning, so please cross your fingers for more things to come.

For me seeing a post up there shows concrete intent (excuse the pun), that all the "Swiss Challenges", ironing out of contracts, creating clearways and all is set aside and finalized to make way for actual construction.

and yeh kenneth is correct in saying the girdles, at least in some posts are up. It shows in those photos, it's just most of us got caught up in post-frenzy:lol:

barrera_marquez

February 9th, 2009, 03:56 PM

At the monumento part, the steel foundations are up already, we already have two and we expect to proceed in a matter of weeks or maybe a month... naghuhukay pa rin kasi sa bandang harap ng General Malvar street kasi dito itatayo ang station ng Bagong Barrio.

lil dreamer boy

February 9th, 2009, 05:04 PM

I was reading the previous threads about the bagong barrio station, I couldn't post a comment before coz of some verification problems... anyways.... about the station...

I live in Valenzuela and I go to Malolos every now and then... If i would be going to Manila from those cities I wouldn't want to get off my ride in Bagong Barrio. Why?

Because...
1. Dangerous.

It is quite dangerous to actually be in that area. Poor lighting, poor police visibility and a lot of people get to be held up at bagong barrio specially at that part approaching clover leaf.

2. Inconvenient

Coming from valenzuela if I were to go to Manila I would be riding a jeep (using McArthur Highway) and get off at Grand Central for the LRT.

If I am going south. I would just get off at North Ave for the MRT instead of riding getting off at LRT. lalo na sa bagong barrio because of the reasons I stated above. I mean why would I ride the LRT pa e kapiraso nalang MRT na. (again this is coming from a point of view of someone who lives in Valenzuela and Malolos)

If I am going to Manila and I am on a bus from Malolos syempre expressway... I would not get off at balintawak and go back to bagong barrio to ride the lrt kung dadaan naman cia sa Grand Central Station ng MRT.

That is why I think the Bagong Barrio station is not worth building

apiong

February 9th, 2009, 05:13 PM

a couple of photos I took of the LRT-2 from World Citi Medical Center

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/7493/pic0121sd2.jpg

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9993/pic0122za1.jpg

RonnieR

February 9th, 2009, 05:15 PM

hecky12

February 9th, 2009, 07:23 PM

di talaga ako makarelate sa mga stations.. alam ko lang monumento at north.ave. heeh.. anyways, lahat ba ng lines e earthquake proof? i mean meron ba silang especial na hinalo sa pundasyon..

walrus357

February 9th, 2009, 08:46 PM

actually, the girdles (correct me if i'm wrong but it's the thing that will connect the pillars and will hold the train) is now in production: the work is done in parallel with the pillars so that when the pillars are done, all they need to do is make patong! and voila! LRT Extension!

ang tamang term ay GIRDER...ang girdles ay yung yata isinusuot ng mga babae, panloob...:lol:

hecky12

February 9th, 2009, 09:02 PM

delikado ba talaga sa bagong barrio pag gabi?

stanleymalls

February 9th, 2009, 10:56 PM

han742

February 10th, 2009, 02:18 AM

di talaga ako makarelate sa mga stations.. alam ko lang monumento at north.ave. heeh.. anyways, lahat ba ng lines e earthquake proof? i mean meron ba silang especial na hinalo sa pundasyon..

Ang mga idadagdag na stations from the present LRT Line 1 Monumento ay apat:
1) Gen. Malvar-Bagong Barrio Station
2) Balintawak Station
3) Roosevelt Station
4) North Avenue Station (terminus)

I don't know about the earthquake proof pero sa lalim at laki pa lang ng pundasyon nito medyo mahirap nang gibain ang nasa ibabaw nito,
:banana2::cool::cool:

han742

February 10th, 2009, 02:21 AM

ang tamang term ay GIRDER...ang girdles ay yung yata isinusuot ng mga babae, panloob...:lol:

oo nga ano, medyo nalito ata ako sa girdle na yun,
:?:?:)

venntro

February 10th, 2009, 02:31 AM

this april na nga ang deadline nito e. haha

^^ As previously mentioned, the April 2009 target was most probably a case of misreporting and the proper target may well be April 2010.

han742

February 10th, 2009, 02:34 AM

delikado ba talaga sa bagong barrio pag gabi?

naku, may mga stations din na kapag hindi matao eh may mga nag-aabang na, at pag gabi may mga lugar na kapag hindi natin kabisado eh talagang delikado, dahil sa gabi madalas naglalabasan ang mga "demonyo".
:shifty::shifty::shifty::shifty:

chris_nigel

February 10th, 2009, 02:43 AM

I like the fact na Marcos was the FIRST to really make Manila hassle-free in terms of traffic.

Tsaka kauna-unahan. That is an honor. A reputation na hindi tayo nahuhuli, noon.

kaya nga proud pa din ako sa pinas kahit no. 1 corrupt country in ASia dahil madami tayong una lalo na ngayon sa curroption..anyways kung may mga girders ng nilalagay malapint na nga matapos yan

jefflacs

February 10th, 2009, 02:51 AM

Ang mga idadagdag na stations from the present LRT Line 1 Monumento ay apat:
1) Gen. Malvar-Bagong Barrio Station
2) Balintawak Station
3) Roosevelt Station
4) North Avenue Station (terminus)

I don't know about the earthquake proof pero sa lalim at laki pa lang ng pundasyon nito medyo mahirap nang gibain ang nasa ibabaw nito,
:banana2::cool::cool:

According to news reports, 3 lang itatayo or I am missing something?

hecky12

February 10th, 2009, 04:14 AM

I don't know about the earthquake proof pero sa lalim at laki pa lang ng pundasyon nito medyo mahirap nang gibain ang nasa ibabaw nito,
:banana2::cool::cool:

yeah dapat lang na malaki ang pundasyon niya.. kasi napapansin ko yung lrt ngayon e madami ng cracks... well sa edad niya e talaga naman kakakitaan na siya ng pagkaluma..but still ilang lindol na ang dinaanan ng line 1 buhay pa rin siya..

btw, speaking of cracks.. sa line1 napapansin ko sa may itaas dun sa parang bakod niya na semento may mga numbers na nakasulat para saan yun... im not referring to sa mga numbers na nakasulat sa steel na poste ha..dun mismo sa semento na bakod sa itaas.

RonnieR

February 10th, 2009, 05:19 AM

^^ Actually, the largest city in the world without a metro is Mumbai.

Hi, on the contrary, Mumbai is building their first Metro.

www.mumbaimetro1.com

Piers at Andheri (E) are up!

January 12
pics copyright Vivek Manvi

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/7236/20090101ay9.jpg

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/4217/20090102cj0.jpg

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/8541/20090103no8.jpg

New Delhi's Metro is running....so I think Jakarta, Hanoi, Saigon are left with no Metro but as I said, Jakarta will soon construct their first MRT line.

venntro

February 10th, 2009, 05:26 AM

^^ There are news reports though that Jakarta is putting on hold their planned MRT/LRT line.

le Reine

February 10th, 2009, 06:07 AM

^^Maybe because they're focusing more on their BRT now.

ryanr

February 10th, 2009, 06:16 AM

^^ There are news reports though that Jakarta is putting on hold their planned MRT/LRT line.

lol...its been on hold since 1992. I think it has the highest chance of pushing through now more than ever.

venntro

February 10th, 2009, 06:23 AM

^^ They will only start building it in 2011.

$1.62b MRT system for Jakarta
Work on rail network to start in 2011 in a bid to ease traffic congestion (http://http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking+News/SE+Asia/Story/STIStory_322090.html)
By Wahyudi Soeriaatmadja , INDONESIA CORRESPONDENT

JAKARTA: - Indonesia will start building its first mass rapid transit (MRT) system worth 12.3 trillion rupiah (S$1.62 billion) in Jakarta in early 2011 as it struggles to ease traffic congestion in the capital where the roads are used by 11/2 million cars daily.
The construction of the 14.5km network, going from a densely-populated suburb in South Jakarta to a downtown area, will be completed in late 2015.

Eight of the 12 MRT stations will be elevated, while the remainder will be built underground. The MRT will be served by 117 train coaches.

'We will build a system that's similar to that in Singapore, Hong Kong, Taipei, Bangkok. This will be a standard MRT that offers convenient, reliable and safe service,' Mr Eddie Santosa, director of Jakarta government-owned PT Mass Rapid Transit Jakarta, the would-be operator of the MRT, told The Straits Times.

He said: 'This will be integrated with the existing city bus station network.'

'Anything that offers a chance to ease traffic jams would be good,' Mr Hasan Salim, 31, a South Jakarta resident, said. However, he doubted the project would help alleviate traffic jams significantly.

A trip within Jakarta during rush hour can take over two hours, while that same trip may take only 15 minutes on Sunday.

Mr Surato, in his 40's, who lives in Bekasi and commutes to Jakarta for work every day, has a different view about the planned MRT project: 'They should get rid of the city's flooding problem first before thinking about having an underground station.'

The Jakarta MRT project is a revival of the first plan, proposed by a company owned by the oldest daughter of the late former President Suharto, which did not proceed because of the Asian financial crisis in 1997. A monorail project proposed by a different private company in 2004 was also aborted after its main financial backer pulled out.

'Now we have our national government and city government saying they are in this together. Last time the commitment wasn't as strong as it is today,' said Mr Eddie, responding to doubts that the project may again be delayed.

PT MRT Jakarta is currently on the technical design and land clearing phase, before contractors are invited next year to bid for two separate tenders, one for the construction work and the other to handle the electrical and mechanical aspects of the system, Mr Eddie said.

Jakarta, which extends across 650 sq km, has seen worsening traffic jams in recent years as the number of motor vehicles has been growing by 9.5 per cent a year in the past five years.

There were about 20 million trips everyday in the city at end-2007, and 70 per cent of those are people on private vehicles or public transport, and the remaining 30 per cent on foot, according to the city government's latest data. The MRT will have the capacity to accommodate about 3 million trips a day, Mr Eddie said.

There are about 8.7 million registered vehicles in Jakarta and the surrounding towns of Depok, Tangerang and Bekasi. Many residents in the cities just outside Jakarta commute to the capital for work.

'People living in Bekasi typically spend one-third of their monthly salary on transport costs. This is huge. The average Singaporean may spend only 7 per cent or less because he lives relatively near an MRT station,' Mr Eddie said.

Japan International Cooperation Agency has committed to funding the MRT project. It will be a soft loan with a 0.2per cent interest rate a year, he said, adding that the interest costs will be borne both by the Jakarta government and the national government.

wheel of steel

February 10th, 2009, 07:11 AM

Indonesia is operating their railways in the same way Japan is doing. If you will see their heavy railways network, the trains and tracks is as good as our LRT and MRTs system.

diz

February 10th, 2009, 07:29 AM

The only thing I don't like about ours is that it's not third rail and it has that overhead wires.

But really, I like elevated rail better than underground.

kaelthas18

February 10th, 2009, 07:30 AM

RonnieR

February 10th, 2009, 07:37 AM

kaelthas18

February 10th, 2009, 07:42 AM

adgaps

February 10th, 2009, 09:02 AM

grabe to ah..ang bilis talga.. i remembr pa nun nung kino-construct ung lrt 2..katagal gawin mga poste nya. sana maumpisahan na lrt south extension.. para naman sa mga taga south..:lol:

it's really a good thing na mabilis ngayon... anyway, April pa yata yung umpisa nung South Extension... but i believe magiging mabilis din ang construction gaya ng dito sa North Extension...

kennethologist

February 10th, 2009, 09:22 AM

ang tamang term ay GIRDER...ang girdles ay yung yata isinusuot ng mga babae, panloob...:lol:

i was almost right! :lol: thanks! :D

mr.suroy

February 10th, 2009, 10:54 AM

hehehe..wag naman sana matulad ung sa aten sa mga nangyari sa KObe nung 1995

di naman masyado nasira ang local trains at shinkansen service lines noong kobe earthquake. in 3 months, naraming rail lines na ang nabalik ang service. ganoon kabilis ng pag repair dun.

han742

February 10th, 2009, 11:35 AM

According to news reports, 3 lang itatayo or I am missing something?

Dahil nga sa rally na nangyari sa EDSA, Caloocan last Nov. sa pangunguna ni Mayor Echiverri ng Caloocan at iginiit na "no Bagong Barrio station, no permit to construct" at hindi nila papayagan na padaanin ang LRT-1 kaya inaprubahan na rin ng gobyerno ang panukala, at magkakaroon na nga raw ng hiwalay na istasyon sa Bagong Barrio.

:)

han742

February 10th, 2009, 11:43 AM

yeah dapat lang na malaki ang pundasyon niya.. kasi napapansin ko yung lrt ngayon e madami ng cracks... well sa edad niya e talaga naman kakakitaan na siya ng pagkaluma..but still ilang lindol na ang dinaanan ng line 1 buhay pa rin siya..

btw, speaking of cracks.. sa line1 napapansin ko sa may itaas dun sa parang bakod niya na semento may mga numbers na nakasulat para saan yun... im not referring to sa mga numbers na nakasulat sa steel na poste ha..dun mismo sa semento na bakod sa itaas.

i think yung mga numbers na 'yun sa bakod ay para mas madali nilang mai- identify kung anung bakod ba ang mahuhulog na (nakupo!) o nangangailangan ng repair. :eat::righton:

jefflacs

February 10th, 2009, 11:58 AM

Dahil nga sa rally na nangyari sa EDSA, Caloocan last Nov. sa pangunguna ni Mayor Echiverri ng Caloocan at iginiit na "no Bagong Barrio station, no permit to construct" at hindi nila papayagan na padaanin ang LRT-1 kaya inaprubahan na rin ng gobyerno ang panukala, at magkakaroon na nga raw ng hiwalay na istasyon sa Bagong Barrio.

:)

Err I know that, ang alam ko kasi, based sa mga discussions nung nakaraang taon/buwan eh either Bagong Barrio or Balintawak, hinde pwede i-build pareho, isa lang sa kanila.

han742

February 10th, 2009, 12:09 PM

Hi, on the contrary, Mumbai is building their first Metro.

www.mumbaimetro1.com

New Delhi's Metro is running....so I think Jakarta, Hanoi, Saigon are left with no Metro but as I said, Jakarta will soon construct their first MRT line.

nagtataka lang ako sa mga posteng ganito kung bakit binabalot pa ng tela, nagmumukha tuloy suman, :lol:

han742

February 10th, 2009, 12:19 PM

Err I know that, ang alam ko kasi, based sa mga discussions nung nakaraang taon/buwan eh either Bagong Barrio or Balintawak, hinde pwede i-build pareho, isa lang sa kanila.

nung una un din ang akala ko na isa lang dapat dahil nga sa sinabi nung isang spokesman na "..construction of Bagong Barrio Station instead of Balintawak..." pero as time goes by mukhang nagkamali lang ata ang nagsabi na yun, ipinaliwanag na ng LRT admin na very strategic ang location ng Balintawak with respect to NLEX, but the Bagong Barrio station has been approved as well, dahil nga sa mga isyung nangyari, :)

han742

February 10th, 2009, 12:43 PM

Err I know that, ang alam ko kasi, based sa mga discussions nung nakaraang taon/buwan eh either Bagong Barrio or Balintawak, hinde pwede i-build pareho, isa lang sa kanila.

Caloocan's petition for LRT station in Bagong Barrio OK'd
Updated January 14, 2009 12:00 AM

The Caloocan City government’s appeal for another Light Rail Transit station along EDSA in Bagong Barrio was approved by the national government last week, an official said.

Mayor Enrico Echiverri said the proposed train station in Bagong Barrio would become part of the P6.3-billion LRT-North Extension project or the LRT-Metro Rail Transit Loop.

“We are glad the President heeded our calls for the additional station, the city is united in our petition, both the public and private sectors,” the mayor said.

The original plan of the 5.4-kilometer LRT-MRT Loop project involves only three stations, one beside the end of the MRT-3 North Avenue, another in Balintawak, and one in Muñoz market, all in Quezon City.

Caloocan City petitioned the national government to include in the project additional station in Bagong Barrio to address the “persistent overcrowding” of passengers in LRT-Monumento Central Station, which is expected to get worse with the project’s completion.

Echiverri said the President’s approval of an additional LRT station in Bagong Barrio “is one viable solution” to effectively deal with the problem.

The local government also expects economic growth along EDSA-Bagong Barrio, a priority development area for national government projects and zonal programs, once the LRT-MRT Loop becomes operational.

The loop will connect LRT-1, running from Baclaran to Monumento in Caloocan City, with the MRT-3, which traverses Edsa from Pasay City to North Avenue in Quezon City. – Pete Laude

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?ArticleId=431526&publicationSubCategoryId=65

siguro puwede na ito para makumbinsi kitang apat na istasyon na ang itatayo, :okay:

nayki

February 10th, 2009, 01:25 PM

^^Not really sure kasi may mga kasabay din news yan dati nag sasabi na di na itutuloy. Not sure.

han742

February 10th, 2009, 02:30 PM

Ewan ko sa kanila kung ano na ba talaga anyway,
Sked para sa LRT-1 South Extension
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4576/lrtsouthextskedhi0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

han742

February 10th, 2009, 02:33 PM

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3359/line1southext01iw9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

:banana::banana::banana:

hecky12

February 10th, 2009, 02:45 PM

hecky12

February 10th, 2009, 02:47 PM

yun sa south extension sure na ba yang skeds na yan and yung mga gumagawa ng north extension din ba ang gagawa?

renell

February 10th, 2009, 02:58 PM

han742

February 10th, 2009, 03:02 PM

hahaha.. natawa ako dun ha.. talagang kung anong block yung unang mahuhulog.. hehhe

anyways, about sa picture.. parang matagal na ata yan. wala bang mas updated diyan? saka physically link ba yung redemptorist at baclarang station?

ganun ba,:lol:
wala pa yatang mas updated dito sa ngayon, i think physically link nga siya kagaya din sa north extension, tutal wala naman magiging sagabal sa dulo ng Baclaran station,

han742

February 10th, 2009, 03:07 PM

that map looks old, I would know since I've seen that several time already. Bay City is still called "Asia World", and it hardly ventures into MoA when it'll create a lot less hassles if it did. After the proposed "Redemptorist" station, it should go into MoA but of course the problem is that it has to go a bit further north.

naku, ganun ba, siguro para na lang ito sa mga taong hindi pa nakakakita ng plano, anyway these are just targets and proposals yet, hehe,:)

renell

February 10th, 2009, 03:15 PM

baka ayusin nila ang plan para sa Dr. Santos station, diba meron na SM na malapit?

meron ba tayong narinig na "loan approval" news huling buwan? nakasulat sa listahan January 2009 ...

han742

February 10th, 2009, 03:21 PM

baka ayusin nila ang plan para sa Dr. Santos station, diba meron na SM na malapit?

meron ba tayong narinig na "loan approval" news huling buwan? nakasulat sa listahan January 2009 ...

...naku wala pa pala..

barrera_marquez

February 10th, 2009, 04:25 PM

^^Not really sure kasi may mga kasabay din news yan dati nag sasabi na di na itutuloy. Not sure.

Nakatira kami malapit sa construction area ng LRT North extension dito sa Monumento at sinabi nila na apat nga ang gagawing istasyon... proof? Sa may bandang General Malvar Street ang tagal nilang maghukay dahil mukhang malaki at marami ang kanilang hinuhukay na lupa. Anyway, the steel foundations of the posts are still being assembled here pero may iba nang itinatayo... very nice development around here!

kratos1211

February 10th, 2009, 05:24 PM

Ewan ko sa kanila kung ano na ba talaga anyway,
Sked para sa LRT-1 South Extension
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4576/lrtsouthextskedhi0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Ito naman ang schedule na galing sa uactphilippines lrtline presentation (http://uactphilippines.org/images/stories/uact/media/november/lrtline1_presentation112508.pdf) september 2009 ang start ng construction

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3499/3218862467_d9bbcd28c5_o.jpg

ryanr

February 10th, 2009, 05:36 PM

RonnieR

February 10th, 2009, 05:43 PM

Ito naman ang schedule na galing sa uactphilippines lrtline presentation (http://uactphilippines.org/images/stories/uact/media/november/lrtline1_presentation112508.pdf) september 2009 ang start ng construction

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3499/3218862467_d9bbcd28c5_o.jpg

nice....how long is the construction period for South extension?

lil dreamer boy

February 10th, 2009, 05:53 PM

kaelthas18

February 10th, 2009, 06:32 PM

maganda ciguro kung ung contractor ng North extension ng LRT1 e sila rin ung sa south extension para mganda at mabilis.. and the same time the same ang design ng stations..

kaelthas18

February 10th, 2009, 06:45 PM

that map looks old, I would know since I've seen that several time already. Bay City is still called "Asia World", and it hardly ventures into MoA when it'll create a lot less hassles if it did. After the proposed "Redemptorist" station, it should go into MoA but of course the problem is that it has to go a bit further north.

ung Moa nasa taas pa... bale there are 2 parts reclaimed area one is the Bay City of SM (kasama na blue wave, toyota, manila doctors, MOA,smx, simbahan )
ung kabila pag tawid mo ng tulay un ang Asia World un.. un ung may price smart,uniwide, tska some gas stations..and also the site of future entertainment city ng Pagcor/nayong pilipino

kaelthas18

February 10th, 2009, 06:50 PM

nice....how long is the construction period for South extension?

imagine mo kung gano kabilis ung contractor (dmci) sa paggawa ng north extension.. i-times mo sa magging station ng lrt south..hehe.. siguro mga 2-3 years yan.. kung paspasan 2years kaya

shamhoy

February 10th, 2009, 07:40 PM

MANILA, Philippines—Plans are underway for a rail service connecting the four terminals of the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) complex, according to airport officials.

Manila International Airport Authority (MIAA) general manager Alfonso Cusi and his deputy for airport development and corporate services, Tirso Serrano, said on Tuesday the monorail service would bring convenience to air travelers using the NAIA Terminals 1, 2 and 3 and the Manila Domestic Airport.

“This is part of our program to improve airport services by connecting our terminals for easy access,” Cusi said during the weekly media forum at the Sofitel Hotel in Pasay City.

At present, passengers use shuttle buses, taxis and other public utility vehicles to get from one terminal to another.

The setup has resulted in some inconvenience, particularly for departing passengers who sometimes ended up at the wrong airport, as well as for arriving foreign tourists with connecting flights.

Many foreign tourists who come to the Philippines without advance bookings have a hard time shuttling from NAIA 1 or 3 to the domestic airport for their connecting flights to the provinces.

Serrano said the monorail system would cost around P300 million and would be constructed via the design-and-build scheme, utilizing local technology.

If the project were put out for bids and awarded this year, construction could begin immediately and the train system would be operational within two years, he said.

Serrano added that the MIAA has been studying if the monorail system would be internal, meaning, the service would be located inside airport premises, with trains available only to air travelers and airport personnel.

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/nation/view/20090210-188540/Trains-connecting-NAIA-terminals-eyed

^^ Im so happy. :)

queetz@home

February 11th, 2009, 12:31 AM

This is a question for queetz more than anyone else...but looking at the schedule of construction to operations I can't help but notice how different MRT projects in the Philippines are to Vancouver's Canada Line. Here in Vancouver, the Canada Line schedule calls for 3 years of construction + 1 year of testing. They are already in the testing phase (at least in the elevated sections). While in the Philippines, construction takes about a year (or not more than 2 years) and then operations start right away. Why such a big time difference from start of construction to operations? Yes, I know the underground section in Vancouver does take longer, but even then, the elevated section in Richmond seems to be taking longer than this LRT North EDSA extension.

I'm a little flattered that you think I'm some kind of rail transit expert, I'm just an enthusiast like everyone else here. But I would think the reason why the Canada Line has one year of testing is because its automated while the ones in the Philippines are driven manually. You need to ensure that a lot of redundancies and safety features are in place for an automated system since the last thing you want is the train that doesn't have constant manual supervision to do some funny things that would endanger lives.

Still dunno why they did so poorly with the automated Las Vegas Monorail in which the train sometimes stops and the doors open up, subjecting passengers to a potential 30 foot drop...oh wait...its Bombardier...nuff said... :lol:

ryanr

February 11th, 2009, 12:42 AM

I'm a little flattered that you think I'm some kind of rail transit expert, I'm just an enthusiast like everyone else here. But I would think the reason why the Canada Line has one year of testing is because its automated while the ones in the Philippines are driven manually. You need to ensure that a lot of redundancies and safety features are in place for an automated system since the last thing you want is the train that doesn't have constant manual supervision to do some funny things that would endanger lives.

Still dunno why they did so poorly with the automated Las Vegas Monorail in which the train sometimes stops and the doors open up, subjecting passengers to a potential 30 foot drop...oh wait...its Bombardier...nuff said... :lol:

good point. I've forgotten to consider that the system is automated here.

han742

February 11th, 2009, 01:36 AM

Local gov't trumps national gov't? :(

i don't know but maybe they have considered their reasoning (Caloocan's) na marami rin ang makikinabang from Valenzuela and Malabon, at nasa priority list din ng gobyerno ang Caloocan sa dinedevelop, aside from the fact na dadaanan nga ng LRT-1 extension ang Caloocan pero hindi naman sila makikinabang kung wala nga namang istasyon na ilalagay,:) (including na rin ang pambabraso ni Mayor syempre, hehe):banana:

han742

February 11th, 2009, 01:45 AM

han742

February 11th, 2009, 01:49 AM

imagine mo kung gano kabilis ung contractor (dmci) sa paggawa ng north extension.. i-times mo sa magging station ng lrt south..hehe.. siguro mga 2-3 years yan.. kung paspasan 2years kaya

dalawa silang contractor, joint venture ika nga, DM Consunji, Inc. (DMCI) at First Balfour (FB), dito sa Balintawak area First Balfour yata nakatoka dito,

swahi

February 11th, 2009, 02:16 AM

han742

February 11th, 2009, 02:17 AM

Ito naman ang schedule na galing sa uactphilippines lrtline presentation (http://uactphilippines.org/images/stories/uact/media/november/lrtline1_presentation112508.pdf) september 2009 ang start ng construction

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3499/3218862467_d9bbcd28c5_o.jpg

sana nga maaprubahan na rin yan para umabot naman ng Cavite ang LRT, sobrang traffic jan sa south kaya lalo na pag rush hour,

han742

February 11th, 2009, 02:28 AM

Read the article of the proposed monorail to connect T1 airport terminal to T2. Has there been any plans to connect the MRT to our airport terminals? The base station where some LRT or MRT trains park is just across the road of the end of the runway where the old terminal building that Cebu Pacific used to use. So its not really that far away anymore.

LRT-1 terminal remains as it is, I think the connection will come from Baclaran Station end-of-the-line, MRT-3 at present has no plans of extending its present south station (i.e. Taft Avenue Station),

kaelthas18

February 11th, 2009, 02:34 AM

LRT-1 terminal remains as it is, I think the connection will come from Baclaran Station end-of-the-line, MRT-3 at present has no plans of extending its present south station (i.e. Taft Avenue Station),

"maybe in the future".. pero malaking renovation yan... first mejo panget ata kung embankment method ang mangyayari.. tatama ung overhead wires sa girder ng lrt 1, then masasarahan ang taft avenue.. so sigurado irrenovate buong stretch ng line pati na rin ung taft station gagawin elevated...o kaya gagawin underground tulad ng buendia station.. tatama ata sa tramo flyover pag ginawang elevated ung line

feistyradical

February 11th, 2009, 04:09 AM

DMCI pala ang contractor for the north extension project. They work really fast huh! Relatively new pa ang ang mga equipment and machineries nila.

imagine mo kung gano kabilis ung contractor (dmci) sa paggawa ng north extension.. i-times mo sa magging station ng lrt south..hehe.. siguro mga 2-3 years yan.. kung paspasan 2years kaya

han742

February 11th, 2009, 04:39 AM

DMCI pala ang contractor for the north extension project. They work really fast huh! Relatively new pa ang ang mga equipment and machineries nila.

just like i said, joint venture ang DMCI at First Balfour, may mga segments na DMCI ang gumagawa at meron din naman First Balfour, dito sa Balintawak ay First Balfour ang gumagawa dito.

feistyradical

February 11th, 2009, 04:49 AM

oic, thanks for the clarification. ngayon ko lang ata narinig ang First Balfour. in any case, i'm glad that they work fast para matapos na yan by early next year - or maybe baka end of the year?

just like i said, joint venture ang DMCI at First Balfour, may mga segments na DMCI ang gumagawa at meron din naman First Balfour, dito sa Balintawak ay First Balfour ang gumagawa dito.

venntro

February 11th, 2009, 04:56 AM

This is really needed for our terminals but I suppose it would be better if it's not only confined in the terminals but there must be some connection to the existing MRT/LRT lines.

Trains connecting NAIA terminals eyed (http://http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/nation/view/20090210-188540/Trains-connecting-NAIA-terminals-eyed)
By Jerome Aning
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 22:01:00 02/10/2009

MANILA, Philippines—Plans are underway for a rail service connecting the four terminals of the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) complex, according to airport officials.

Manila International Airport Authority (MIAA) general manager Alfonso Cusi and his deputy for airport development and corporate services, Tirso Serrano, said on Tuesday the monorail service would bring convenience to air travelers using the NAIA Terminals 1, 2 and 3 and the Manila Domestic Airport.

“This is part of our program to improve airport services by connecting our terminals for easy access,” Cusi said during the weekly media forum at the Sofitel Hotel in Pasay City.

At present, passengers use shuttle buses, taxis and other public utility vehicles to get from one terminal to another.

The setup has resulted in some inconvenience, particularly for departing passengers who sometimes ended up at the wrong airport, as well as for arriving foreign tourists with connecting flights.

Many foreign tourists who come to the Philippines without advance bookings have a hard time shuttling from NAIA 1 or 3 to the domestic airport for their connecting flights to the provinces.

Serrano said the monorail system would cost around P300 million and would be constructed via the design-and-build scheme, utilizing local technology.

If the project were put out for bids and awarded this year, construction could begin immediately and the train system would be operational within two years, he said.

Serrano added that the MIAA has been studying if the monorail system would be internal, meaning, the service would be located inside airport premises, with trains available only to air travelers and airport personnel.

kratos1211

February 11th, 2009, 05:50 AM

oic, thanks for the clarification. ngayon ko lang ata narinig ang First Balfour. in any case, i'm glad that they work fast para matapos na yan by early next year - or maybe baka end of the year?

First Balfour is the construction arm of the Lopez Group. Part din sila sa gumawa ng NLEX and soon the TPLUEX and other big projects :)

First Balfour, Inc. (http://www.firstbalfour.com/aboutus.php?sub=companyhistory)

feistyradical

February 11th, 2009, 05:55 AM

Lopez na naman. They seem to be everywhere - media, electricity, water, construction...what else is missing? They're own country? ;)

First Balfour is the construction arm of the Lopez Group. Part din sila sa gumawa ng NLEX and soon the TPLUEX and other big projects :)

First Balfour, Inc. (http://www.firstbalfour.com/aboutus.php?sub=companyhistory)

RonnieR

February 11th, 2009, 06:00 AM

mwg12a

February 11th, 2009, 06:04 AM

Look in NAIA thread, someone put a link about that mono rail. I think it's for passenger use only and would connect the 3 terminal buildings.. still a good news though

renell

February 11th, 2009, 06:28 AM

It wouldn't be a bad idea if the link connecting the terminals was within, not utilizing the LRT system.

if this hypothetical NAIA monorail and the LRT were to connect, that'd be better but i don't see the point in the "monorail" extending all the way to MIA road just to link up with the LRT system because that's not its primary objective.

venntro

February 11th, 2009, 07:02 AM

^^ PAGCOR City actually has a proposal to build a monorail of its own connecting the Entertainment complex to the international airport terminals.

diz

February 11th, 2009, 08:27 AM

It wouldn't be a bad idea if the link connecting the terminals was within, not utilizing the LRT system.

Seattle-Tacoma's airport train system isn't connected with anything.

flip2_0

February 11th, 2009, 08:56 AM

venntro

February 11th, 2009, 10:03 AM

NEDA Board OKs road project in Samar and airport upgrade in Palawan
02/11/2009 | 03:26 PM

Email this | Email the Editor | Print | ShareThisMANILA, Philippines- The National Economic and Development Authority Board, chaired by President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, has approved two new projects aiming to link remote provinces in Samar and increase tourist arrivals in Palawan.

In a statement, NEDA said the two projects, which will be sponsored by South Korea, are worth P6 billion.

The P2.5-billion Samar Pacific Coastal Road Project will link the towns in Samar Island to enhance the development of potential agricultural lands and fishing grounds of Northern Samar and Eastern Samar provinces as well as facilitate the movement of goods and services in the area.

It involves the improvement of the 108.4-kilometer road that traverses the pacific coastal towns of Laoang, Palapag, Mapanas, Gamay, and Lapinig in Northern Samar and Arteche and San Policarpo in Eastern Samar. Of the total project cost, about P1.6 billion will be foreign-funded while the remaining P900 million will be the local counterpart. The foreign cost component shall be sourced from the Korean-EDCF loan facility.

While the project is set to be implemented from 2010 to 2013, the Department of Public Works and Highways has jumpstarted implementation of the project in “critical" locations in 2008. About P287 million was used to finance the project last year while P500 million is allocated to continue completion this year.

Meanwhile, the Board also approved the P3.5-billion Puerto Princesa Airport Development Project. About P2.8 billion of the total cost for this project shall be sourced from the Korean EDCF loan facility while the remaining P700 million will be the government counterpart.

The project will improve the Puerto Princesa Airport by upgrading its facilities to meet the standards of the International Civil Aviation Organization .

It includes the construction of a new passenger terminal complex and a new access road off the national highway; widening of the runway strip and installation of an Instrument Landing System (ILS); establishment of new security fencing; and improvement of navigational aid, air traffic control, communications and air field lighting.

Moreover, the Board approved the “emergency" repair works for the LRT Line 1 Capacity Expansion Project (Phase II). The LRT Line 1 was constructed in December 1984 and operated as the first light rail line in Asia.

The Line 1 Capacity Expansion Project which was implemented from 1994 to 1998 increased the passenger-carrying capacity by 50 percent from 18,000 to 27,000 passengers per peak hour per direction.

On the other hand, the Phase II of the project, implemented from 1999 to 2008 supported the operations of integrated LRT Lines 1, 2 and 3 networks. This increased passenger capacity by another 50 percent from 27,000 to 40,000 passengers per peak hour per direction. GMANews.TV

stanleymalls

February 11th, 2009, 12:10 PM

stanleymalls

February 11th, 2009, 12:27 PM

http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/qq42/stanleymalls/monrail.jpg

I think ganito dapat. Just my :2cents:! :)

renell

February 11th, 2009, 12:46 PM

ano yung nasa dulo? mukhang tubig lang dude :D ang inisip ko sana loop, so T3, tapos underground link sa ilalim ng secondary runway, tapos T2, T1, PAGCOR tapos loop pabalik sa T3.

someone raised the issue of security. if PAGCOR builds a monorail to their entertainment complex then you almost have to consider their facilities an extension of the airport, security-wise.

anyway enough dream planning - what is the government's requirement on the extension i.e. how many stations and where would they be placed?

stanleymalls

February 11th, 2009, 12:53 PM

^^ Eto ba?
http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/qq42/stanleymalls/monrail-1.jpg

Inedit ko na yan kasi alam ko na may magiisip na kung pwede sa underground ng runway.

ferny123

February 11th, 2009, 01:21 PM

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3359/line1southext01iw9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

:banana::banana::banana:

sana straight nalng ung lrt line. pwede naman cguro i align ang lrt dun sa creek.

kalbongdad

February 11th, 2009, 04:02 PM

well usually ang monorail ay loop.....dahil tuloy tuloy ang ikot ng tren...like the one in sydney, australia....there are those designs na linear....na pagating sa dulo babalik ulit ang tren.... ... sa singa parang yung train link nila is only between terminals....sa disney hk...mula sa mtr.....lipat ka ng monorail papasok ng disney....these days a lot of airports have lrt links directly to their terminal....like hk, narita,...dapat mula sa lrt....may link na monorail to the airport terminals para convenient sa mga pasahero lalo na sa mga tourists....

nico216

February 11th, 2009, 05:28 PM

nico216

February 11th, 2009, 05:30 PM

so ano naba talaga? b.bario, blwk, muñoz, grand central naba o b.bario, muñoz, grand central nalang? tnx

apiong

February 11th, 2009, 06:02 PM

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/metro/view/20090211-188769/LRTA-bought-new-trains-for-81M

:ohno: they persecute the LRTA for adding new trains to the LRT-1 line while they do nothing to MRTC for not adding a single train to EDSA MRT-3 line... :bash:

SANS TRACKS
LRTA bought new trains for $81M

By Gil C. Cabacungan Jr.
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 22:38:00 02/11/2009

Filed Under: Railway

MANILA, Philippines—The Light Rail Transportation Authority (LRTA) is in hot water for buying $81.6 million worth of trains even though it has yet to expand the railway system’s Monumento-Baclaran LRT 1 route to Cavite province.

At a congressional hearing on Wednesday, Palawan Representative Abraham Mitra asked how the LRTA could extend its services when its current volume of riders does not justify the additional investments.

Mitra noted that the LRTA had proceeded with the purchase of the 48 trains – at $1.7 million each through a loan from the Japan Bank for International Cooperation – allegedly without the endorsement of Transportation Secretary Leandro Mendoza.

The congressman also noted that the news trains were meant for the southern extension of LRT 1, the plans of which have yet to be finalized.

LRTA officials at the hearing claimed Mendoza had approved the purchase as chair of the LRTA board, noting that it went through the regular bidding process with the National Economic and Development Authority.

They claimed that the purchase, meant to increase rider capacity, was a “pre-requisite’’ to the extension of train services to Cavite.

The additional trains have jacked up the capacity from 27,000 riders to 48,000 riders per hour per direction.

At the same hearing, Northern Samar Representative Paul Daza said it was unusual for the LRTA to buy the trains before finishing the extension because the tracks and stations are supposed to be built first.

He added that it was also questionable why LRT 1 would have more trains than the EDSA-MRT line that has more passengers.

Cagayan de Oro Representative Rufus Rodriguez also chided the LRTA for singling out a Filipino contractor, Filipinas Systems Inc. (Filsystems), in the bidding for the extension project that would link LRT1 to EDSA-MRT.

Rodriguez said the LRTA had disqualified Filsystems for a “minor thing’’ (Filsystems submitted a manual instead of an electronic copy of its income tax returns), but had allowed foreign corporations and other local bidders to place their bids even if they had also been remiss in submitting complete documents.

Philip Cruz of Filsystems told congressmen that the LRTA, which did not accept his bid, should have disqualified all of the bidders who failed to comply with the requirements instead of targeting only his company.

Cruz complained that not only was Filsystems eased out, LRTA also allegedly copied its copyrighted design for the LRT 1 extension for its unsolicited proposal in 2004 without its consent. Cruz said the LRTA used a design that took 18 months and P106 million to complete.

Mitra invited LRTA Administrator Melquiades Robles to the next hearing to explain allegations that he awarded in 2007 a P1.059 billion maintenance contract to a company that only had P8.1 million in capital.

lil dreamer boy

February 11th, 2009, 08:08 PM

lil dreamer boy

February 11th, 2009, 08:33 PM

WAAAAHHHHH......

Eric: I can't seem to perfect the code... :((

Anyways...

I was trying to upload the vids but like i said above I cant perfect it. I'll just post the links to the vids here...

thanks eric for the tip... i'll practice some more... hehehehe :D

Clip 1: I was going home after shift and I noticed that the MRT 3 train (South Bound) stopped at the middle of its tracks in between GMA Kamuning and Quezon Ave stations.

Link: NSOzSSNiEWY

Clips 2 - 5: Here's a series of vids of the construction site along EDSA for the LRT 1 North Extension.

Link 1: 9Pe9y-d9WyU
Link 2: _ldRW3upZzQ
Link 3: pzYT4YNmWgI
Link 4: orSIE_7klCQ

You can see all the vids at www.youtube.com/ianmateodelapena
I'll practice some more guys with this stuff so I can have them posted directly :D

Eriq

February 11th, 2009, 09:06 PM

orSIE_7klCQ

[youtube]orSIE_7klCQ[ / youtube]

without the spaces

han742

February 12th, 2009, 01:34 AM

so ano naba talaga? b.bario, blwk, muñoz, grand central naba o b.bario, muñoz, grand central nalang? tnx

the real question is "BB (bagong barrio) or no BB? kasi ang balintawak ay sure na lalagyan ng station, pero base nga sa mga huling balita ay nagkaroon na ng permit to construct dahil inaprubahan na na magkaroon ng hiwalay na istasyon ang Bagong Barrio, pero tignan pa rin natin kung matutupad nga ba ito, :)

han742

February 12th, 2009, 01:42 AM

WAAAAHHHHH......

Eric: I can't seem to perfect the code... :((

Anyways...

I was trying to upload the vids but like i said above I cant perfect it. I'll just post the links to the vids here...

thanks eric for the tip... i'll practice some more... hehehehe :D

Clip 1: I was going home after shift and I noticed that the MRT 3 train (South Bound) stopped at the middle of its tracks in between GMA Kamuning and Quezon Ave stations.

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSOzSSNiEWY

di ba talaga naman tumitigil ang train kapag may nakahimpil pa sa susunod na station na dadaanan nito?

venntro

February 12th, 2009, 02:17 AM

LRTA's purchase of 48 train wagons questioned (http://http://www.gmanews.tv/story/148366/LRTAs-purchase-of-48-train-wagons-questioned)
02/12/2009 | 01:06 AM

MANILA, Philippines - Lawmakers in the House of Representatives on Wednesday chided the Light Rail Transit Authority (LTRA) for purchasing 48 train wagons in 2006 at $1.7 million each or a total $81.6 million, without any additional railway tracks to run on.

During the public hearing of the House oversight committee, Northern Samar Rep. Paul Daza, who has a background on railways, exclaimed why LRTA acquired addition train wagons without creating new tracks.

“What I don’t understand is why we have to buy a train without any railway. Normally, you build a track and put a train on it later," Daza told the committee chaired by Quezon Rep. Danilo Suarez,

LRTA corporate secretary Hernando Cabrera admitted the acquisition of the wagons was made through loan from the Japan Bank for International Cooperation.

He added that the Department of Finance facilitated the purchase to increase the capability of the LRTA to accommodate passengers.

“We had to increase the capacity from the usual 48,000 passengers a day. Now, we can accommodate 500,000 passengers. That is one of the pre-requisites in order to have an extension," Cabrera told the lawmakers.

With the acquisition, LRTA that operates in Baclaran-Monumento route now has a total of 148 trains.

This made Daza wonder even more as he cited that the Metro Rail Transit (MRT) on EDSA, which carry more passengers than LRT-1, only has 73 trains.

He said that of the 73, around 60 of them are operational while the rest are on standby. “How come you’re telling us that you needed these trains? Are all of these trains fully utilized? It [the purchase] doesn’t make sense," Daza said.

Cabrera clarified that the additional trains are intended for the LRT extension in Bacoor, Cavite from Baclaran.

However, Melchor Plaza , deputy secretary general of 1-AK (Aangat Ka Pilipino) party-list group, said the project proponent in the Bacoor LRT-1 extension, Lavalin of Canada had backed out from building and financing the railway structures.

Meanwhile, Reps. Abraham Mitra and Rufus Rodriguez, question the LRTA decision to disqualify construction magnate Felipe Cruz Jr. of Filsystems in the MRT-LRT Loop Project.

The project aims to link LRT Monumento to MRT near SM North EDSA.

Cruz, whose family construction company built flyovers along EDSA, accused the LRTA of intellectual piracy for allegedly copying his design for the proposed Monumento-SM North route.

Cabrera explained that Cruz ‘s company was disqualified because he failed to submit an electronic filing of his income tax returns, a requirement very important under the LRTA circular.

Rodriguez said the failure to file an ITR was too minor to disqualify the company.

“I don’t know why this circular is so sacrosanct that you’re singling out a very big company and disqualify them," he said. “I’m surprised that a big company like FF Cruz or Filsystems will be disqualified only because of the manual or electronic filing of ITR. It is, to me, a very minor thing."

Suarez cited his experience when he was still in the private sector when he lost in bidding in a government project because of a missing “table of contents" page. He said he contested his disqualification before the Supreme Court, but the court upheld his disqualification invoking the line “failure to comply" with the requirements. - Fidel Jimenez, GMANews.TV

kratos1211

February 12th, 2009, 02:31 AM

han742

February 12th, 2009, 02:35 AM

venntro

February 12th, 2009, 03:28 AM

^^ It is high time that MRT should also add additional coaches/wagons to their trains. The MRT is designed anyway to accommodate 4 coaches/wagons per train and yet they still rely on three coaches depsite the fact that people are crowding the MRT trains like sardines. :ohno::ohno:

venntro

February 12th, 2009, 03:32 AM

Here's a related article on the matter:

Rails needed for $ 81.6-M trains intended for Cavite LRT project (http://http://www.mb.com.ph/MAIN20090212147925.html)

Train coaches worth about $ 81.6 million (more than P3.83 billion) are in danger of becoming white elephants unless the government decides soon to build the structures, including the rails, for the Light Rail Transit (LRT) extension project up to Cavite.

This was gathered yesterday from Filipino construction mogul Philip Cruz of Filsystems Consortium who also accused the LRT administration of committing serious irregularities in the bidding for the LRT Line 1 extension being constructed along E. de los Santos Avenue (EDSA).

Appearing in a congressional hearing called by the House Committee on Oversight, Cruz said the LRT Administration (LRTA) allegedly infringed on his copyright of the LRT 1 extension plan which the state-owned firm adopted without his knowledge.

LRTA president Melquiades Robles laughed off Cruz’s charges as mere sour graping for losing the billion peso contract to an equally big local construction firm, the DM Consunji Inc. (DMCI)

Robles said he is ready to confront Cruz with the facts of the train purchase made two years ago.

"With regards to the alleged bidding irregularities, Cruz should have challenged the proceedings as provided under Republic Act 9184 or the Procurement Law. He should have exhausted these remedies instead of going to the House and the media," Robles said.

According to him, the supposed copyright infringement issue should be presented to the courts.

Robles explained that the trains delivered out of the .1 million contract were used as part of the capacity expansion program of the LRTA.

"That’s ridiculous, the trains have been rolling for two years now. The Cavite LRT extension will have its own trains, not these ones," he stressed. "He is a losing bidder, he has an ax to grind against us."

In yesterday’s legislative hearing, Melchor Plaza, deputy secretary general of the 1-0AK partylist group, sought an inquiry into the acquisition of 48 train coaches which have reportedly been delivered even before the railway structure could be built

Plaza accused LRTA chairman and Transportation Secretary Leandro Mendoza of sitting on the allocation authority that would guarantee funding for the Cavite mass transit project.

Reacting to the statements of Cruz and Plaza, Quezon Rep. Danilo Suarez, committee chairman, said the House panel will set another hearing to tresh out the issue which was first brought up during legislative assessment of existing railways projects in Metro Manila.

Quezon City Rep. Vincent "Bingbong" Crisologo sought a House investigation on the railway projects as he called for better coordination among implementing agencies to ensure order in Metro Manila streets.

Cruz said the LRTA committed abuse of authority for disqualifying him from the bidding for a supposed violation of the rules allegedly also committed by DMCI.

He claimed that the winning bidder had no previous track record in the construction of railway structures, in violation of the Procurement Law.

Cruz claimed his firm had drawn the full plan and design of the LRT- EDSA extension, adding that he had it copyrighted before giving the government a copy of his proposal.

After junking his offer, the LRTA adopted the same design Filsystems drew, Cruz said.

The LRT Line 1 extension up to Cavite is part of the government’s infrastructure blueprint to solve traffic congestion in the National Capital Region. At present, Line 1 runs only from Monumento in Caloocan City up to Baclaran in Parañaque. (Ben R. Rosario)

winztotoy

February 12th, 2009, 03:33 AM

This is what we call foresight, bakit hihintayin na maging sardinas ang mga pasahero na sumasakay bago aaksyon, katulad sa nangyayari sa MRT3. Pag natapos ang LRT north extension, siguradong dodoble ang mga pasahero sumasakay at hindi pa rin siksikan sa train. Tanga talaga ang mga politician.

They are actually smart (or stupid)... I know they know the significance but they have to do this aid of re-election... 400+ days to for Halalan 2010.

RonnieR

February 12th, 2009, 05:26 AM

It is very clear that this Felipe Cruz Jr. of Filsystems who lost in the bidding of MRT-LRT Loop project is sour graping. The politicians, as usual, for publicity stunt, are riding with him.

So, LRT South Extension will use new trains, cool.

Mr. Robles' statement directly hits them:

"That’s ridiculous, the trains have been rolling for two years now. The Cavite LRT extension will have its own trains, not these ones," he stressed. "He is a losing bidder, he has an ax to grind against us."

le Reine

February 12th, 2009, 05:29 AM

@lil dreamer boy: There you go. I edited it for you.

absinthe_888

February 12th, 2009, 07:09 AM

grabe talaga kitid ng utak ng mga pulitiko natin.

Mithril Cloud

February 12th, 2009, 09:21 AM

Here's a related article on the matter:

Cruz said the LRTA committed abuse of authority for disqualifying him from the bidding for a supposed violation of the rules allegedly also committed by DMCI.

He claimed that the winning bidder had no previous track record in the construction of railway structures, in violation of the Procurement Law.

Looks like someone didn't do some background checking on DMCI.

R10 to Tayuman Rail Line (http://www.dmcinet.com/Unv_ProjectDesc.asp?Type=RLP&ProjCd=0641&Category='')
LRT2 Trackworks Project (http://www.dmcinet.com/Unv_ProjectDesc.asp?Type=RLP&ProjCd=1214&Category='')
MICT Inland Container Cargo Rail System (http://www.dmcinet.com/Unv_ProjectDesc.asp?Type=RLP&ProjCd=0472&Category='')

Onynz

February 12th, 2009, 09:28 AM

so ano naba talaga? b.bario, blwk, muñoz, grand central naba o b.bario, muñoz, grand central nalang? tnx

As far as i know its was balintawak at first, then after the rally and by Mayor Recom's push, balintawak was scrapped for Bagong Barrio because they only really intend to add 2 additional stations exlcuding the Grand Central Station.

So its bagong barrio and munoz only for lrt 1 north extension.

Also i would like to counter the statement of a previous poster about having a station in bagong barrio.

1. I disagree that its not safe in bagong barrio, the part( Malvar st. and not near the clover leaf) of which where they plan to have a station constructed is always patrolled by police and is where a check point is always stationed.

2. It will still be more convenient for people coming in from the north (bulacan / pampanga... etc via expressway) that intends to use the lrt, because they will need not to take another transporation (jeep) to go to monumento station which is what most do as of this time.

renell

February 12th, 2009, 10:58 AM

what a load of hot air regarding the "extra trains" matter.

and about being a 'white elephant' the article doesn't say anything about it not being used at all - are they being used? they could always rotate the coaches.

T3 has set the standard as to what a Pinoy White Elephant should be. ;)

Lucentino

February 12th, 2009, 11:57 AM

Emergency works for LRT Line 1 to address 'unsafe structure'
GMANews.TV
02/12/2009 | 05:19 PM

MANILA, Philippines- The government is taking emergency measures to address the “unsafe structure" of the 25-year old Light Rail Transit Line 1, which is “Asia’s first light rail line".

The National Economic and Development Authority board, chaired by President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, has approved the “emergency" repair works for the LRT Line 1 Capacity Expansion Project (Phase II)

The government has yet to determine how much the emergency repair works will cost and what type of rehabilitation works will be included.

Government documents showed that besides having “unsafe structure", the LRT Line 1 has massive leaking workshop roofing, flat rails and poor track condition.

“…Due to the difference in time from project planning to actual project implementation (1999-2008), the condition of Line 1 civil structures and equipment has deteriorated very significantly," documents said.

An instance was also cited when a more than two-ton four-meter by 2.25 meter parapet fell on the street below near Bambang station on September 11, 2005.

“Many of the 6,991 parapet walls are either misaligned or already damaged," the documents said.

It added that the track condition throughout the whole alignment needs immediate attention.

“Most of the rails and sleepers installed around 27 years ago are already worn out. The high level of vibration resulted to damage of the structure thus, imposing speed restrictions along some portions of the line, which in turn decreases the capacity of the line," the documents stated.

Passengers also usually avoid riding the second generation trains because air-conditioning units are no longer working.

The repair works of LRT Line 1 becomes more urgent as LRT ridership had hit its highest ridership recorded in a day on January 9, 2009 at 582,999, besting the 542, 605 in 1996.

Since 1996, ridership has exceeded original capacity of 18,000 passengers per peak hour per direction.

chris_nigel

February 12th, 2009, 12:09 PM

oo nga nakasakay na din ako many times sa Line 1 grabe napabayaan na syan talaga well medyo na modernize yung stations but the rail tracks nakakatakot na tignan.. parang d n sya inaalagaan sana nga ma rehabilitate d whole line gaya nung extension nia

barrera_marquez

February 12th, 2009, 04:25 PM

Apat na yung nasa plano.. Bagong Barrio, Balintawak, Muñoz and North Avenue.

hecky12

February 12th, 2009, 04:57 PM

sandman.ink

February 12th, 2009, 08:10 PM

This is what we call foresight, bakit hihintayin na maging sardinas ang mga pasahero na sumasakay bago aaksyon, katulad sa nangyayari sa MRT3. Pag natapos ang LRT north extension, siguradong dodoble ang mga pasahero sumasakay at hindi pa rin siksikan sa train. Tanga talaga ang mga politician.

di naman sila tanga...they just have their own hidden agendas. :bash::bash:
hehehe...I mean, these people are either our for publicity or are just pissed off that they didn't get a share of the pie. :D

obviously, LRT1 need new trains....kelangan na din ng facelift ang mga stations.

renell

February 12th, 2009, 08:32 PM

napanuod ko din ang balita. nung isang araw lang tinatanong ko yung mga number na nakalagay sa mga wall yun pala may mga parte na palang bumigay na.. tataka lang ako. kung sino pa yung riles na nasa itaas yun pa yung napudpod samantalang yung riles ng PNR e ayos pa.. well dedepende na lang yun sa klase ng gawa ng riles..

hindi naman necessarily tungkol sa klase ng gawa, ang LRT1 araw araw ginagamit, halos walang tigil sa isang taon. PNR, bihira gamitin.

pero baka dahil sa emergency works na ito madedelay ulit ang LRT1 extension. sa tingin ko mas importante ang renovation bago expansion.

Planning Democracy

February 12th, 2009, 08:57 PM

Arciga_01

February 12th, 2009, 09:19 PM

hindi naman necessarily tungkol sa klase ng gawa, ang LRT1 araw araw ginagamit, halos walang tigil sa isang taon. PNR, bihira gamitin.

Not only that, LRT trains run at 70+KPH. While the old neglected PNR Trains runs at an lightning speed of 20KPH!!! :nuts::lol:

adgaps

February 13th, 2009, 01:55 AM

Not only that, LRT trains run at 70+KPH. While the old neglected PNR Trains runs at an lightning speed of 20KPH!!! :nuts::lol:

baka daw kasi masira na dahil sobrang luma na nung tren ng PNR... hehe... :lol::lol:

venntro

February 13th, 2009, 03:32 AM

NCRPO deploys bus, LRT marshals vs potential bombers (http://http://www.gmanews.tv/story/148636/NCRPO-deploys-bus-LRT-marshals-vs-potential-bombers)
02/13/2009 | 09:09 AM

MANILA, Philippines - Police marshals will randomly board buses and light rail systems in Metro Manila during the Valentine's weekend to prevent a repeat of the Valentine's Day bombing in 2005.

Metro Manila police chief Director Leopoldo Bataoil said Friday the marshals will complement ongoing checkpoint operations in key areas and facilities.

"Meron tayong random [na] sumasakay, in tandem at nakauniporme. Yan ay aking ipapatupad uli, to ensure our policemen will be boarding on random basis [The policemen will be in tandem and in uniform. I will remind them to board these public transport systems at random]," he said in an interview on dzXL radio.

He said this is aside from police visibility in seaports and airports, and augmentation in bus terminals.

Bataoil earlier ordered the Metro Manila police on full alert until this weekend, to prevent a repeat of the Valentine's Day bombing four years ago.

He said police have already intensified checkpoint operations, with "reminders" to be respectful and to always be in full uniform.

"So far so good, wala tayong specific threat [we have no specific threat]. They will be seen, felt and experienced in a positive way," he said.

Meanwhile, Bataoil said police in Makati City are scheduled to hold a "simulation exercise" and commemoration of the 2005 bombing this weekend. He did not give details, however.

A total of eight people were killed and scores were wounded when simultaneous bombs went off in Makati, and the southern cities of General Santos and Davao on Feb. 14, 2005. Authories blamed the explosions to extremist groups including the Jemaah Islamiyah, the regional arm of the al-Qaeda terror network. - GMANews.TV

han742

February 13th, 2009, 05:33 AM

As far as i know its was balintawak at first, then after the rally and by Mayor Recom's push, balintawak was scrapped for Bagong Barrio because they only really intend to add 2 additional stations exlcuding the Grand Central Station.

So its bagong barrio and munoz only for lrt 1 north extension.

Also i would like to counter the statement of a previous poster about having a station in bagong barrio.

1. I disagree that its not safe in bagong barrio, the part( Malvar st. and not near the clover leaf) of which where they plan to have a station constructed is always patrolled by police and is where a check point is always stationed.

2. It will still be more convenient for people coming in from the north (bulacan / pampanga... etc via expressway) that intends to use the lrt, because they will need not to take another transporation (jeep) to go to monumento station which is what most do as of this time.

Caloocan's petition for LRT station in Bagong Barrio OK'd
Updated January 14, 2009 12:00 AM

The Caloocan City government’s appeal for another Light Rail Transit station along EDSA in Bagong Barrio was approved by the national government last week, an official said.

Mayor Enrico Echiverri said the proposed train station in Bagong Barrio would become part of the P6.3-billion LRT-North Extension project or the LRT-Metro Rail Transit Loop.

“We are glad the President heeded our calls for the additional station, the city is united in our petition, both the public and private sectors,” the mayor said.

The original plan of the 5.4-kilometer LRT-MRT Loop project involves only three stations, one beside the end of the MRT-3 North Avenue, another in Balintawak, and one in Muñoz market, all in Quezon City.

Caloocan City petitioned the national government to include in the project additional station in Bagong Barrio to address the “persistent overcrowding” of passengers in LRT-Monumento Central Station, which is expected to get worse with the project’s completion.

Echiverri said the President’s approval of an additional LRT station in Bagong Barrio “is one viable solution” to effectively deal with the problem.

The local government also expects economic growth along EDSA-Bagong Barrio, a priority development area for national government projects and zonal programs, once the LRT-MRT Loop becomes operational.

The loop will connect LRT-1, running from Baclaran to Monumento in Caloocan City, with the MRT-3, which traverses Edsa from Pasay City to North Avenue in Quezon City. – Pete Laude

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx...bCategoryId=65

yesterday, binutasan na bago at paglampas sa area ng EDSA-cloverleaf interchange, hanggang sa gabi ay tuloy pa rin sa paggawa...

mwg12a

February 13th, 2009, 05:34 AM

NCRPO deploys bus, LRT marshals vs potential bombers (http://http://www.gmanews.tv/story/148636/NCRPO-deploys-bus-LRT-marshals-vs-potential-bombers)
02/13/2009 | 09:09 AM

I guess it's more expensive to have detectors and security checks before you enter the station itself instead of Marshals??? What if the bomber was able to sneak in and get on the train? Gone with the Marshals I guess with other injured or killed?

bustero

February 13th, 2009, 06:19 AM

bustero

February 13th, 2009, 06:21 AM

Waited for almost 30 mins in Cubao Station to get on a train heading to Makati. The headway was about 2.5 mins for each train, all the trains were full!

Went the other way to North Ave, now that explains it, North Ave pa lang puno na yung MRT. So it took me a total of about 45 mins to get to Makati. The crowded conditions negated the fast travel times because of the long waiting times for an uncrowded train.

The missing link, the buyout is at a standstill with the financial system worldwide in chaos am not sure they can even do the partial buyout to take management control. Without it , it'll be tough to deploy the new trains.

bustero

February 13th, 2009, 06:24 AM

venntro

February 13th, 2009, 06:33 AM

Ay naku, I wonder what this is really all about. Their questioning existing assets and misrepresenting it as some sort of scandal.

In the meantime huwag niyong paniwalaan iyang ff cruz na iyan, I've seen them operate basta di sila nanalo, they always alert the press and management na dinaya sila and may corruption.

FF Cruz has links with Gina de Venecia. Reklamador talaga.

flymordecai

February 13th, 2009, 07:33 AM

http://i44.tinypic.com/30dl0jm.jpg

My friend, who is studying in the Philippines took this picture last week.

mwg12a

February 13th, 2009, 07:38 AM

where is this???

flymordecai

February 13th, 2009, 07:40 AM

No clue! Probably EDSA, he was saying how they closed two more lanes on each side.

han742

February 13th, 2009, 07:52 AM

http://i44.tinypic.com/30dl0jm.jpg

My friend, who is studying in the Philippines took this picture last week.

this was taken while approaching Balintawak (overpass) going Monumento, you can see here on the right side the RC Cola Billboard, :)

AmbutLang

February 13th, 2009, 12:34 PM

An average rails life on a straight line are usually change every 20 years. On the curve areas rails are usually change from 5 to 10 years. If the wearing of the rails are so excessives at a short span of time, then the geometry of the tracks had to be corrected and/or install a greaser pump which squirt a minute amount of grease when every wheels of the train hit the detector to minimize the friction between rails and wheels.

Does the Philippines Transit Authority have a a multipurpose geometry/X-ray inspection train? This train can detect a hairline crack in the rails, the shifting of the rails as compared to previous inspection. This geometry train should be used to all line of the transit system.

Paul George Alcala

February 13th, 2009, 12:58 PM

barrera_marquez

February 13th, 2009, 04:20 PM

In Monumento area they are now beginning the concrete pouring of steel posts...

RonnieR

February 13th, 2009, 04:23 PM

LRT updated their website on the status of LRT1 South Extention Project

Again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They change the date of the start of construction from April 2009 to September 2009.

I think it is the 10th time or more they change its target plan.

Yeah, it was posted before by Kratos1211 on change...let's be patient, 5 mos lang naman :)

Ito naman ang schedule na galing sa uactphilippines lrtline presentation (http://uactphilippines.org/images/stories/uact/media/november/lrtline1_presentation112508.pdf) september 2009 ang start ng construction

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3499/3218862467_d9bbcd28c5_o.jpg

hecky12

February 13th, 2009, 05:45 PM

LRT updated their website on the status of LRT1 South Extention Project

Again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They change the date of the start of construction from April 2009 to September 2009.

I think it is the 10th time or more they change its target plan.

oks lang yan at least namomove yung date kesa naman sa wala na tayong malaman sa project.. i mean mabuti na yung naiinform din tayo na sa ganitong araw mauumpisahan na nagkaron ng pagbabago sa plano e okay lang yan basta wag lang MAWAWALA ng TULUYAN.. di bale ilang araw na lang marso na so malapit na yang setyembre na yan.

lil dreamer boy

February 13th, 2009, 05:54 PM

@lil dreamer boy: There you go. I edited it for you.

Thanks so much Madame

lil dreamer boy

February 13th, 2009, 06:16 PM

As far as i know its was balintawak at first, then after the rally and by Mayor Recom's push, balintawak was scrapped for Bagong Barrio because they only really intend to add 2 additional stations exlcuding the Grand Central Station.

So its bagong barrio and munoz only for lrt 1 north extension.

Also i would like to counter the statement of a previous poster about having a station in bagong barrio.

1. I disagree that its not safe in bagong barrio, the part( Malvar st. and not near the clover leaf) of which where they plan to have a station constructed is always patrolled by police and is where a check point is always stationed.

2. It will still be more convenient for people coming in from the north (bulacan / pampanga... etc via expressway) that intends to use the lrt, because they will need not to take another transporation (jeep) to go to monumento station which is what most do as of this time.

Just to clarify....

I live in the North specifically Valenzuela and Malolos..... and if I am going to the south (Makati, Taft, Ortigas) of course I would definitely take the MRT/LRT para mabilis (medyo hassle lang coz i need to transfer pa from LRT to MRT)... But if they are to build Bagong Barrio and drop Balintawak from the plan hassle talaga because para makasakay ako sa LRT kailangan kong bumalik pa ng bagong barrio because all of the busses turns right towards the south at hindi na madadaanan ang bagong barrio (that is if it will be built along gen. malvar. kung sa may bandang clover leaf pwede pa, yung dun sa may zesto kase pwede kami bumaba before the bus turns right) and since there is no balintawak station I would have to go further sa munoz and of course dagdag pamasahe yan.

Please keep in mind that provincial buses have their terminal in cubao and not in monumento in effect wlang bus na nag u u turn sa monumento for people to be able to drop by the proposed BB...

In case naman ng papunta ako ng manila galing valenzuela jeepneys are more used than buses at lahat ng jeep dumidiretso na sa grand central sa monumento. because if we use ung bus tatawid pa kame ng edsa tapos lalakad pa monumento station pag sa Bagon barrio naman bababa okay rin pero dagdag pamasahe ulet yan not only sa bus fare but sa train fare din kasi ung dagdag station na dadaanan...

venntro

February 14th, 2009, 01:28 AM

Just to clarify....

I live in the North specifically Valenzuela and Malolos..... and if I am going to the south (Makati, Taft, Ortigas) of course I would definitely take the MRT/LRT para mabilis (medyo hassle lang coz i need to transfer pa from LRT to MRT)... But if they are to build Bagong Barrio and drop Balintawak from the plan hassle talaga because para makasakay ako sa LRT kailangan kong bumalik pa ng bagong barrio because all of the busses turns right towards the south at hindi na madadaanan ang bagong barrio (that is if it will be built along gen. malvar. kung sa may bandang clover leaf pwede pa, yung dun sa may zesto kase pwede kami bumaba before the bus turns right) and since there is no balintawak station I would have to go further sa munoz and of course dagdag pamasahe yan.

Please keep in mind that provincial buses have their terminal in cubao and not in monumento in effect wlang bus na nag u u turn sa monumento for people to be able to drop by the proposed BB...

In case naman ng papunta ako ng manila galing valenzuela jeepneys are more used than buses at lahat ng jeep dumidiretso na sa grand central sa monumento. because if we use ung bus tatawid pa kame ng edsa tapos lalakad pa monumento station pag sa Bagon barrio naman bababa okay rin pero dagdag pamasahe ulet yan not only sa bus fare but sa train fare din kasi ung dagdag station na dadaanan...

^^ That should really be addressed since there are a lot of commuters coming from the Bulacan area.

han742

February 14th, 2009, 04:13 AM

the way i see it mukha yatang tatanggalin nila ung barangay outpost (139) na nakalagay sa tabi ng Bonifacio Memorial Elem. School, (malapit sa boundary ng Caloocan - Quezon City), kasi napansin ko hindi nakagitna ung mga posts ng LRT-1 extension sa EDSA, mas nakakiling siya sa side ng northbound (going Monumento), eh samantalang makipot na nga ang kalsadang ito, siguro ieexpand na naman ang bahagi ng EDSA going Monumento in the near future, just an observation...:)

han742

February 14th, 2009, 04:31 AM

...1. I disagree that its not safe in bagong barrio, the part( Malvar st. and not near the clover leaf) of which where they plan to have a station constructed is always patrolled by police and is where a check point is always stationed.

>may nakikita nga akong patrol car ng police banda dyan na nakapark pero madalas yata wala ung pulis at pinababantayan lang sa mga tambay ung patrol car, may iba yatang pinagkakaabalahan sila "bossing",
>hindi yata magandang tignan na pagbibigyan ang Bagong Barrio Station at the expense of Balintawak Station which has more volume of people, residents and non-residents alike, :banana::banana::banana:

han742

February 14th, 2009, 05:03 AM

Woman feared dead after falling off MRT
MANILA, Philippines, Saturday, February 14 - A woman was feared dead after jumping off a station of the Metro Rail Transit along Shaw Boulevard in Mandaluyong City Friday night.

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Fireman Kenneth Santillan told dzBB radio the woman fell off the MRT station, but said she could not be identified immediately.

"No pulse, no breathing. Ang sabi patay na raw (She had no pulse and was not breathing. Witnesses said she may be dead)," he said.

He said the incident occurred at about 7:20 p.m. - GMANews.TV

...kaya ingat lang po tayo...

RonnieR

February 14th, 2009, 05:57 AM

^^ based on witnesses, it was a suicide. She jumped near Waffle food kiosk, Shaw Boulevard station . Ulo ang unang bumagsak...so sad...

han742

February 14th, 2009, 06:13 AM

^^cguro broken-hearted, dahil loveless sa okasyon pa naman ngayon, there are so many reasons to live for pa rin, (sayang hindi na niya makikitang natapos ang LRT-1 extension),:ohno:

evilgenius15

February 14th, 2009, 10:33 AM

^^cguro broken-hearted, dahil loveless sa okasyon pa naman ngayon, there are so many reasons to live for pa rin, (sayang hindi na niya makikitang natapos ang LRT-1 extension),:ohno:

sabay banat ng ganun o, :lol::lol::lol:

chris_nigel

February 14th, 2009, 10:38 AM

at least namatay sya lrt station her memories will live there forever...lalo na sa gabi..ahoooooooo

ona

February 14th, 2009, 01:06 PM

Caloocan's petition for LRT station in Bagong Barrio OK'd
Updated January 14, 2009 12:00 AM

The Caloocan City government’s appeal for another Light Rail Transit station along EDSA in Bagong Barrio was approved by the national government last week, an official said.

Mayor Enrico Echiverri said the proposed train station in Bagong Barrio would become part of the P6.3-billion LRT-North Extension project or the LRT-Metro Rail Transit Loop.

“We are glad the President heeded our calls for the additional station, the city is united in our petition, both the public and private sectors,” the mayor said.

The original plan of the 5.4-kilometer LRT-MRT Loop project involves only three stations, one beside the end of the MRT-3 North Avenue, another in Balintawak, and one in Muñoz market, all in Quezon City.

Caloocan City petitioned the national government to include in the project additional station in Bagong Barrio to address the “persistent overcrowding” of passengers in LRT-Monumento Central Station, which is expected to get worse with the project’s completion.

Echiverri said the President’s approval of an additional LRT station in Bagong Barrio “is one viable solution” to effectively deal with the problem.

The local government also expects economic growth along EDSA-Bagong Barrio, a priority development area for national government projects and zonal programs, once the LRT-MRT Loop becomes operational.

The loop will connect LRT-1, running from Baclaran to Monumento in Caloocan City, with the MRT-3, which traverses Edsa from Pasay City to North Avenue in Quezon City. – Pete Laude

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx...bCategoryId=65

yesterday, binutasan na bago at paglampas sa area ng EDSA-cloverleaf interchange, hanggang sa gabi ay tuloy pa rin sa paggawa...

So talagang gagawa pala ng separate station for the LRT terminus Station malapit sa SM North at hindi palalakihin yung MRT North Ave. Station para ma-accomodate nya yung LRT 1 extension.

han742

February 14th, 2009, 02:42 PM

So talagang gagawa pala ng separate station for the LRT terminus Station malapit sa SM North at hindi palalakihin yung MRT North Ave. Station para ma-accomodate nya yung LRT 1 extension.

ang alam ko may plan na talaga para jan, un na nga ung Grand Central Terminal, may mga previous pics na nito dito, kung saan mgkakaroon ng isang common terminus ang LRT-1, MRT-3 at MRT-7 sa tapat ng SM City North, :)

hecky12

February 14th, 2009, 04:59 PM

kinonfirmed na yan ni ed lacson na tuloy ang grand central station. the who si ed lacson? i dont know pero may katungkulan siya sa gov't. paki tingin na lang po or paki confirm kung sino siya.

barrera_marquez

February 14th, 2009, 10:45 PM

Just to clarify....

I live in the North specifically Valenzuela and Malolos..... and if I am going to the south (Makati, Taft, Ortigas) of course I would definitely take the MRT/LRT para mabilis (medyo hassle lang coz i need to transfer pa from LRT to MRT)... But if they are to build Bagong Barrio and drop Balintawak from the plan hassle talaga because para makasakay ako sa LRT kailangan kong bumalik pa ng bagong barrio because all of the busses turns right towards the south at hindi na madadaanan ang bagong barrio (that is if it will be built along gen. malvar. kung sa may bandang clover leaf pwede pa, yung dun sa may zesto kase pwede kami bumaba before the bus turns right) and since there is no balintawak station I would have to go further sa munoz and of course dagdag pamasahe yan.

Please keep in mind that provincial buses have their terminal in cubao and not in monumento in effect wlang bus na nag u u turn sa monumento for people to be able to drop by the proposed BB...

In case naman ng papunta ako ng manila galing valenzuela jeepneys are more used than buses at lahat ng jeep dumidiretso na sa grand central sa monumento. because if we use ung bus tatawid pa kame ng edsa tapos lalakad pa monumento station pag sa Bagon barrio naman bababa okay rin pero dagdag pamasahe ulet yan not only sa bus fare but sa train fare din kasi ung dagdag station na dadaanan...

Try mo kuyang sumakay ng sasakyan na Monumento bound... jeep ka if you're coming from Valenzuela and take the Victory Liner if you are coming from Malolos.

Ang Victory Liner may bus terminal sa Monumento...

lil dreamer boy

February 15th, 2009, 01:25 AM

Try mo kuyang sumakay ng sasakyan na Monumento bound... jeep ka if you're coming from Valenzuela and take the Victory Liner if you are coming from Malolos.

Ang Victory Liner may bus terminal sa Monumento...

That is my exact reason why Balintawak station shouldn't be dropped off the plan.. :D

ona

February 15th, 2009, 02:36 AM

kinonfirmed na yan ni ed lacson na tuloy ang grand central station. the who si ed lacson? i dont know pero may katungkulan siya sa gov't. paki tingin na lang po or paki confirm kung sino siya.

ang galing naman, akala ko kasi proposal palang itong Grand Central Station at until 2015 pa, yun pala makikita na natin itsura nya dahil sa LRT 1 extension

jefflacs

February 15th, 2009, 04:50 AM

^^ Modular naman yung pagconstruct sa central station at hinde isang bagsakan. Uunahin muna yung sa MRT-3 and LRT-1 na areas then sunod yung sa LRT-7. Maglalagay na lang sila ng provisions for the other lines

barrera_marquez

February 15th, 2009, 02:02 PM

That is my exact reason why Balintawak station shouldn't be dropped off the plan.. :D

Although papunta sila ng Grand Central, pwede mo naman sabihin sa driver na ibaba ka sa Bagong Barrio... although preferably mas gusto ko talaga na gawing 4 yung stations.

han742

February 15th, 2009, 03:03 PM

ang galing naman, akala ko kasi proposal palang itong Grand Central Station at until 2015 pa, yun pala makikita na natin itsura nya dahil sa LRT 1 extension

Govt to fund Grand Central Terminal
Wednesday, 21 January 2009 02:24

THE Department of Transportation and Communications is asking the Department of Budget and Management to release hundred millions of pesos to finance the common stations for three rail systems.
The Transport official, who requested anonymity, said the budget of P777 million will be used to fund the “Grand Central Terminal,” the common station for Metro Rail Transit Line 3 (MRT 3) and Line 7 (MRT 7), as well as the Light Rail Transit Line 1 (LRT 1) North Extension Project.

The new terminal would be constructed near the SM North Annex in Quezon City and will connect the MRT 3 and 7 and LRT 1 North Extension.

The LRT 1 North Extension Project, which is expected to complete in May next year, will cost around P6.32 billion.

Of the total, civil and architectural work would cost P3.3 billion; electromechanical works, P1.9 billion; consultancy services, P317.4 million; contingency, P318 million; and inflation adjustment, P342.35 million.

The joint venture of D.M. Consunji and First Balfour last year won the contract to construct the LRT 1 North Extension Project.

The project involves the extension of LRT 1 to the North Avenue station of MRT 3, the construction of two new intermediate stations (Balintawak and Roosevelt) and a terminal station (LRT 1 North Avenue station).

The Balintawak station will provide modal interchange with bus and jeepney services entering Metro Manila from the north via the North Luzon Expressway.

Once running, the LRT 1 North Extension is expected to serve about 800,000 to 1 million passengers.

The LRT 1 North Extension Project, which aims to close the EDSA Loop, will need three additional stations from the existing Monumento Station of and ending at the North Avenue Station of MRT 3.

http://ipb2000.com/index.php/railways/1669-govt-to-fund-grand-central-terminal-
(Bagong Barrio was not yet mentioned here, but the station was already approved by PGMA) :cheers::)