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Planning Democracy
February 15th, 2009, 06:30 PM
The missing link, the buyout is at a standstill with the financial system worldwide in chaos am not sure they can even do the partial buyout to take management control. Without it , it'll be tough to deploy the new trains.

And thus the public suffers...

I now sometimes take a bus going south instead of taking the MRT, I choose the bus companies with the brand new buses for comfort, most of these have DVDs playing pirated movies. Sad part is, the drivers still drive like hell

ionmarx
February 15th, 2009, 11:48 PM
Target naman talaga nila is 2010, kaya hinde ko alam kung saan nila nakuha yung April 2009 na completion.

Nabigla rin ako habang naglulurk dito. April 2009?

Kung 2010 man, photo finish nga gaya ng sabi ng isang pang poster dito. Tapos shempre kung kay GMA lang gugustuhin nya matapos before May 2010 elections para may maipagmamalaki uli siya :p

I saw the PDF on the "Grand Central Station". Ngayon naiintindihan ko na rin kung bakit anlayo-layo ng "North Avenue Station" ng MRT3. Sana "Mindanao Avenue Extension" na lang ang tawag run. Uber-misnomer eh :lol:

Btw, kung ieextend ang LRT1 eastward, ibig sabihin nito pati yung stations ganun din, old design? Hehehe!

ona
February 16th, 2009, 04:38 AM
^^ Modular naman yung pagconstruct sa central station at hinde isang bagsakan. Uunahin muna yung sa MRT-3 and LRT-1 na areas then sunod yung sa LRT-7. Maglalagay na lang sila ng provisions for the other lines

Buti kung ganun...at least oobserbahan muna nila yung increased traffic sa area, tapos gagawan nila ng provision yung design para mas convenient sa mga commuters

venntro
February 16th, 2009, 05:33 AM
Govt to purchase more trains for MRT 3 (http://http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2009/feb/16/yehey/business/20090216bus4.html)

THE Department of Transportation and Communications (DOTC) has decided to purchase more brand new trains for the Metro Rail Transit Line 3 (MRT 3) to expand passenger capacity.

Transport Secretary Leandro Mendoza told reporters that the DOTC, instead of MRT owner Metro Rail Transit Corp. (MRTC), would buy new trains costing about $2 million each.

The MRTC is a consortium led by the Sobrepena family’s Fil-Estate Management. Other investors are Ayala Land Inc., Anglo-Philippine Holdings Corp., Ramcar Inc. and Greenfield Development Corp.

“We decided to buy trains and we want brand new trains to be funded by the government,” Mendoza said.

The DOTC said the government gave MRTC reasonable time to decide, but the company has no intention of buying more trains and address the overcrowding at MRT 3.

Mendoza said the National Economic and Development Authority is studying the proposal.

The government plans to buy 73 light-rail vehicle trains with three minutes headway or four-car trains with 2.5 minutes headway.

At present, MRT 3 uses three-car trains with three minutes headway. The additional trains are expected to be operational before 2012.

The government plan to buy more trains stemmed from commuter congestion at MRT 3 as a result of higher fuel prices and record inflation, which forced many private-car owners to take public transportation instead, especially for trips across Metro Manila

The MRT-3 system is designed to accommodate only about 23,600 passengers per peak hour, but demand has ballooned to 25,753 during rush hour. The MRT-3 capacity of 23,600 had been breached as early as 2004.

The MRT 3 was built to speed up the commute and alleviate traffic congestion along Epifanio de los Santos Avenue (EDSA), a major Metro Manila thoroughfare.

MRT 3 has a fleet of 73 Czech-made air-conditioned rail cars, of which up to 60 three-car trains operate daily. The trains run at a top speed of 65 kilometers per hour to cover 13 stations in about 30 minutes, stopping for 25 seconds to 35 seconds per station.
-- Darwin G Amojelar

Lito
February 16th, 2009, 06:51 AM
kinonfirmed na yan ni ed lacson na tuloy ang grand central station. the who si ed lacson? i dont know pero may katungkulan siya sa gov't. paki tingin na lang po or paki confirm kung sino siya.

Mr. Ed Lacson is the current PCCI President

Mithril Cloud
February 16th, 2009, 06:52 AM
Govt to purchase more trains for MRT 3 (http://http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2009/feb/16/yehey/business/20090216bus4.html)

This is like the nth time that they announced that. All talk, no action.

RonnieR
February 16th, 2009, 07:47 AM
Courtesy of Traveleronfoot: LRT 2

http://traveleronfoot.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/lrt-purple-3.jpg?w=470&h=352

http://traveleronfoot.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/lrt-purple-a.jpg?w=470&h=352

http://traveleronfoot.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/lrt-purple-4.jpg?w=470&h=352

http://traveleronfoot.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/lrt-purple-5.jpg?w=470&h=352

RonnieR
February 16th, 2009, 07:50 AM
From Philippines Travel: LRT 1

http://www.philippines-travel-guide.com/images/lrt.jpg

venntro
February 16th, 2009, 07:51 AM
^^ LRT-2 remains to be the best looking train among all lines. Hopefully the new MRT lines will have the same or better-looking trains.

sushi___
February 16th, 2009, 09:12 AM
Govt to purchase more trains for MRT 3 (http://http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2009/feb/16/yehey/business/20090216bus4.html)

THE Department of Transportation and Communications (DOTC) has decided to purchase more brand new trains for the Metro Rail Transit Line 3 (MRT 3) to expand passenger capacity.

Transport Secretary Leandro Mendoza told reporters that the DOTC, instead of MRT owner Metro Rail Transit Corp. (MRTC), would buy new trains costing about $2 million each.

The MRTC is a consortium led by the Sobrepena family’s Fil-Estate Management. Other investors are Ayala Land Inc., Anglo-Philippine Holdings Corp., Ramcar Inc. and Greenfield Development Corp.

“We decided to buy trains and we want brand new trains to be funded by the government,” Mendoza said.

The DOTC said the government gave MRTC reasonable time to decide, but the company has no intention of buying more trains and address the overcrowding at MRT 3.

Mendoza said the National Economic and Development Authority is studying the proposal.

The government plans to buy 73 light-rail vehicle trains with three minutes headway or four-car trains with 2.5 minutes headway.

At present, MRT 3 uses three-car trains with three minutes headway. The additional trains are expected to be operational before 2012.

The government plan to buy more trains stemmed from commuter congestion at MRT 3 as a result of higher fuel prices and record inflation, which forced many private-car owners to take public transportation instead, especially for trips across Metro Manila

The MRT-3 system is designed to accommodate only about 23,600 passengers per peak hour, but demand has ballooned to 25,753 during rush hour. The MRT-3 capacity of 23,600 had been breached as early as 2004.

The MRT 3 was built to speed up the commute and alleviate traffic congestion along Epifanio de los Santos Avenue (EDSA), a major Metro Manila thoroughfare.

MRT 3 has a fleet of 73 Czech-made air-conditioned rail cars, of which up to 60 three-car trains operate daily. The trains run at a top speed of 65 kilometers per hour to cover 13 stations in about 30 minutes, stopping for 25 seconds to 35 seconds per station.
-- Darwin G Amojelar

This is like the nth time that they announced that. All talk, no action.

itong talaga si Leandro Mendoza mahilig sa recycled announcements... parang 2007 pa nya ito sinasabi ah... ni isang coach ba may nabili or nahiram sa LRT... tsktsk... kung meron man tga DOTC dito... mahiya naman kayo

venntro
February 16th, 2009, 09:33 AM
itong talaga si Leandro Mendoza mahilig sa recycled announcements... parang 2007 pa nya ito sinasabi ah... ni isang coach ba may nabili or nahiram sa LRT... tsktsk... kung meron man tga DOTC dito... mahiya naman kayo

^^ He loves to recycle coz he has no accomplishments to show so far. :lol:

adgaps
February 16th, 2009, 11:25 AM
from GMANews.tv

Parents tag along kids in protest vs QC business district
02/16/2009 | 11:56 AM

MANILA, Philippines - Residents doomed to be evicted from their homes due to the Quezon City government’s plan to convert an area into a major business center picketed outside the city hall in the hopes of getting an audience with Mayor Feliciano “Sonny" Belmonte.

A radio report said that parents tagged their children along in a protest rally to oppose the conversion of some 250-hectare of land in North and East Triangles into a “Triangle Park" that would rival Makati’s business district.

The protesters from the San Roque Community Council – North Triangle Alliance (SRCC-NTA) said the urban development could shore up income for the city but at the expense of local residents from covered villages being evicted from their homes.

An estimated 16,000 families in the two affected villages will be displaced and hundreds of employees will suffer by the time the project gets completed, according to the National Urban Poor Program, a Manila-based urban poor confederation.

The protest movement has already snarled traffic at the portion of the elliptical road along where the Quezon City Hall is located.

Protesters said they staged the rally in time for the weekly “People’s Day," where Belmonte usually takes the time listening to the concerns and grievances of his constituents.

The group said local governments and business players drawing up the plan for the business district construction should first consult with community leaders and residents before laying out the project.

The planned business district, which is also expected to connect three metro rail stations, will be home to high-rise condominiums, technology centers, recreational places, and commercial establishments.

The residents said instead of being sent off to far-flung provinces of Isabela and Davao as planned, they should only be relocated to surrounding areas, near their places of work and study.

Most affected residents are employed by the Department of Agriculture, the Department of Environment and Natural Resources, the Veteran’s Memorial Medical Center, the Lung Center of the Philippines, and the National Kidney Transplant Institute.

The Quezon City government had said that the recent construction of the Ayala-owned Triangle North of Manila (Trinoma) mall was a first step in the said transformation.

Business mogul Lucio Tan is also said to invest on a 10-hectare property at the corner of Epifanio delos Santos Avenue (EDSA) and Quezon Boulevard, as part of his P10 billion development project across the country.

The project had actually begun in 2002 with the issuance of Executive Order 106 that created the North Triangle Development Committee, which is tasked to oversee the multi-billion project.

A later executive order (EO 620) extended the coverage of the project and changed the composition of the oversight committee.

i guess they refer to the Grand Central Terminal... panu na kya yan?

Onynz
February 16th, 2009, 11:57 AM
Just to clarify....

I live in the North specifically Valenzuela and Malolos..... and if I am going to the south (Makati, Taft, Ortigas) of course I would definitely take the MRT/LRT para mabilis (medyo hassle lang coz i need to transfer pa from LRT to MRT)... But if they are to build Bagong Barrio and drop Balintawak from the plan hassle talaga because para makasakay ako sa LRT kailangan kong bumalik pa ng bagong barrio because all of the busses turns right towards the south at hindi na madadaanan ang bagong barrio (that is if it will be built along gen. malvar. kung sa may bandang clover leaf pwede pa, yung dun sa may zesto kase pwede kami bumaba before the bus turns right) and since there is no balintawak station I would have to go further sa munoz and of course dagdag pamasahe yan.

Please keep in mind that provincial buses have their terminal in cubao and not in monumento in effect wlang bus na nag u u turn sa monumento for people to be able to drop by the proposed BB...

In case naman ng papunta ako ng manila galing valenzuela jeepneys are more used than buses at lahat ng jeep dumidiretso na sa grand central sa monumento. because if we use ung bus tatawid pa kame ng edsa tapos lalakad pa monumento station pag sa Bagon barrio naman bababa okay rin pero dagdag pamasahe ulet yan not only sa bus fare but sa train fare din kasi ung dagdag station na dadaanan...

Try mo kuyang sumakay ng sasakyan na Monumento bound... jeep ka if you're coming from Valenzuela and take the Victory Liner if you are coming from Malolos.

Ang Victory Liner may bus terminal sa Monumento...


Just to clarify some of the points you mentioned:
1. Not all buses turns right towards the south.
- Baliwag, Victory, RJ and Siera Madre that are Caloocan bound turns right at the road beside's Bonifacio Memorial Elem. School...so buses will still pass thru the expected Bagong Barrio station either in Gen. Malvar or at the clover leaf area...

2. Not all buses have their terminal in cubao:
- Bus liners that i have mentioned above have terminals in or near the monumento area... so again they will pass thru the BB station

3. Tama ka dyan:
- but logically bat ka pa mag bu-buss eh may jeep from valenzuela na dadaan ng monumento station...


With this pointers, di ko naman sinasabi na disadvantage ang pagkakaroon ng balintawak station, sinasabi ko lang na mas maganda talaga na may bagong barrio station rin...

renell
February 16th, 2009, 01:55 PM
Courtesy of Traveleronfoot: LRT 2

http://traveleronfoot.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/lrt-purple-5.jpg?w=470&h=352

thanks mate

regarding this photo, the map suggests there's no walkway or some sort of connection between either line 1 or 3. I know Araneta's Gateway provides a long-detour between the blue and purple lines, but how about line 1. I've checked maps and there's no suggestion of that. I'd like to ask someone who's travelled/travelling those routes.

le Reine
February 16th, 2009, 02:39 PM
thanks mate

regarding this photo, the map suggests there's no walkway or some sort of connection between either line 1 or 3. I know Araneta's Gateway provides a long-detour between the blue and purple lines, but how about line 1. I've checked maps and there's no suggestion of that. I'd like to ask someone who's travelled/travelling those routes.That map is kinda outdated. Although there are maps on every station that would supplement those.

Anyway, re the detour from LRT2 to LRT1, there's a veeeerrryyy long walkway from LRT2 Recto station to LRT1 Doroteo Jose station.

Mithril Cloud
February 16th, 2009, 03:16 PM
Doroteo Jose-Recto Link

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/87/Recto_link.jpg/600px-Recto_link.jpg

ionmarx
February 16th, 2009, 04:03 PM
Govt to purchase more trains for MRT 3 (http://http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2009/feb/16/yehey/business/20090216bus4.html)

The DOTC said the government gave MRTC reasonable time to decide, but the company has no intention of buying more trains and address the overcrowding at MRT 3.


Bat ganun? Bat ang LRTA kung gugustuhin nilang mag-expand ng capacity magagawa nila? Why would the consortium making up the MRTC not even care about expansion? Dahil ba lugi na sila for such a long time?

I rode the MRT3 just tonight and even if it wasn't the usually jam-packed situation, I can really feel the poor ventilation inside the coach. May "aircon" ngang bumubuga eh ang init naman. Mukhang hindi na rin namemaintain yung filters nun.

Mabuti pa ang LRT1 eh, kahit luma tas nilagyan ng aircon kahit pano hindi maiinit sa loob. Ang MRT3... :ohno:

kratos1211
February 16th, 2009, 04:35 PM
^^Hindi lugi ang consortium. Swapang lang. :ohno: Under the build-operate-transfer contract between the government and the MRTC, the latter is given an assured rate of return on investment of 15 percent a year effectively assuring them of a steady income flow. This is one of the reason why the government wants to buyout the contract.

le Reine
February 16th, 2009, 04:43 PM
Bat ganun? Bat ang LRTA kung gugustuhin nilang mag-expand ng capacity magagawa nila? Why would the consortium making up the MRTC not even care about expansion? Dahil ba lugi na sila for such a long time?

I rode the MRT3 just tonight and even if it wasn't the usually jam-packed situation, I can really feel the poor ventilation inside the coach. May "aircon" ngang bumubuga eh ang init naman. Mukhang hindi na rin namemaintain yung filters nun.

Mabuti pa ang LRT1 eh, kahit luma tas nilagyan ng aircon kahit pano hindi maiinit sa loob. Ang MRT3... :ohno:Hinid yun aircon, heater kasi yun. :lol:

^^Hindi lugi ang consortium. Swapang lang. :ohno: Under the build-operate-transfer contract between the government and the MRTC, the latter is given an assured rate of return on investment of 15 percent a year, kaya ito ang isa sa dahilan na gustong bilhin ng government ang contract.Yeah. At tinataga nila ang gobyerno nung gustong bilhin. Magandang business ito, i-asa sa gobyerno lahat ng problema ng MRT.

stanleymalls
February 16th, 2009, 05:51 PM
Govt to purchase more trains for MRT 3 (http://http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2009/feb/16/yehey/business/20090216bus4.html)

THE Department of Transportation and Communications (DOTC) has decided to purchase more brand new trains for the Metro Rail Transit Line 3 (MRT 3) to expand passenger capacity.

Transport Secretary Leandro Mendoza told reporters that the DOTC, instead of MRT owner Metro Rail Transit Corp. (MRTC), would buy new trains costing about $2 million each.

The MRTC is a consortium led by the Sobrepena family’s Fil-Estate Management. Other investors are Ayala Land Inc., Anglo-Philippine Holdings Corp., Ramcar Inc. and Greenfield Development Corp.

“We decided to buy trains and we want brand new trains to be funded by the government,” Mendoza said.

The DOTC said the government gave MRTC reasonable time to decide, but the company has no intention of buying more trains and address the overcrowding at MRT 3.

Mendoza said the National Economic and Development Authority is studying the proposal.

The government plans to buy 73 light-rail vehicle trains with three minutes headway or four-car trains with 2.5 minutes headway.

At present, MRT 3 uses three-car trains with three minutes headway. The additional trains are expected to be operational before 2012.

The government plan to buy more trains stemmed from commuter congestion at MRT 3 as a result of higher fuel prices and record inflation, which forced many private-car owners to take public transportation instead, especially for trips across Metro Manila

The MRT-3 system is designed to accommodate only about 23,600 passengers per peak hour, but demand has ballooned to 25,753 during rush hour. The MRT-3 capacity of 23,600 had been breached as early as 2004.

The MRT 3 was built to speed up the commute and alleviate traffic congestion along Epifanio de los Santos Avenue (EDSA), a major Metro Manila thoroughfare.

MRT 3 has a fleet of 73 Czech-made air-conditioned rail cars, of which up to 60 three-car trains operate daily. The trains run at a top speed of 65 kilometers per hour to cover 13 stations in about 30 minutes, stopping for 25 seconds to 35 seconds per station.
-- Darwin G Amojelar

Pu3! Leche! Hindi pwedeng dinedehado nila yung mga atong laging gumagamit ng serbisyo nila. :ohno: :no: :rant: :bleep:

renell
February 17th, 2009, 01:30 AM
haha it makes the MRTC even sound more pathetic when it said they had no intention. I guess if it's running and it's being patronized, who care if they're all crammed in. ridiculous.

habagatcentral1
February 17th, 2009, 01:36 AM
Pathetic MRT? They even did not repaired some of the turnstiles in Taft Avenue Station...it creates bottlenecks....:bash:

kratos1211
February 17th, 2009, 02:14 AM
LRT extension design copied from Filsystems?
By Federico D. Pascual Jr. Philstar

EDSA MADNESS: Everyday, motorists and commuters passing that busy stretch of EDSA between Monumento in Caloocan and North Ave. in Quezon City are incensed by the heavy, bruising traffic, especially during rush hours.

One reason for the mess is the narrowing of the road with the ongoing work of the contractor building the columns for the projected light rail transit line to connect the LRT-1 terminal in Monumento to the MRT end-station at EDSA-North Ave.

The latest tidbit on the project is that Light Rail Transit Administration officials will be sued for syndicated estafa for allegedly copying and using without permission the design by another company that had submitted an earlier bid offer.

The Filipinas (Prefab Bldg.) Systems, or Filsystems, said it would sue LRTA officials headed by their president Mel Robles for alleged infringement on Filsystems’ rights to its extension design registered under Copyright No. 1-2006-07 on April 24, 2006.

* * *

PROJECT UPDATE: The LRTA commitment to President Gloria Arroyo is to finish and start operating the EDSA elevated rail link before the May 2010 elections. (Yes, there will be elections.)

As of last week, ground work on the 5.71-km line on EDSA from Balintawak to North Ave., estimated to cost P1,402 million, was more than 15 percent complete.

Connecting the LRT terminal in Caloocan to the new Balintawak station, covering a distance of 2.7 km, will cost P1,398 million. Work on it was 13.8 percent complete as of last week.

The entire project, including civil and architectural works, three new stations at Balintawak, Roosevelt and North Ave., electromechanical works (except rolling stock), was initially estimated to cost P6,322.85 million.

The copyright suit may cost LRTA officials a hefty sum. If found guilty, they will have to pay for the crime of pirating the exclusive Filsystems design. The royalties due Filsystems will be another matter.

* * *

MESSY MESHING: Although the old LRT-1 and the MRT on EDSA will finally be connected in three points — in Baclaran, North Ave. and Caloocan — to close the transport loop, their rail cars are not interchangeable.

Passengers commuting around the loop will have to disembark and then board again for their train connection. The same problem of lack of planning and integration is true with the other LRT line from Divisoria to Marikina passing through Cubao, QC.

There is supposed to be a centralized LRT authority to coordinate and seamlessly mesh the operation of all the lines, but many factors, including business considerations, prevent a workable integration.

* * *

BID HIDDEN?: Albert Reyes, Filsystems lawyer, said the entire LRT extension design — including the designation of three stations, the train system, communications, signaling, ticketing and electric power system — is owned and copyrighted by Filsystems.

In July 2004, Filsystems submitted an unsolicited bid proposal to LRTA, complete with the required feasibility study, the basic contractual terms and the obligations of the proponent and the government, and the technical and financial components under Rule 10 of Unsolicited Proposals of the BOT Law.

Under the law, LRTA must inform any bidder within 30 days of his submission if the unsolicited bid was complete or incomplete. If complete, LRTA must declare it accepted or rejected within 60 days.

Reyes said LRTA failed to inform the National Economic and Development Authority that there was a pending unsolicited bid, so NEDA was not aware of the Filsystems offer when it shifted to solicited bids.

* * *

PADDED FEE: Reyes said that in its meeting of Nov. 29, 2006, the Cabinet was merely shown a Pentel pen overlay copy of the Filsystems design, which he said LRTA passed off as its own.

In a hearing of the House oversight committee, it was disclosed that LRTA asked the Department of Budget and Management on Nov. 24, 2006, for P101.8 million for design consultancy (for a non-existent original design). The amount was to be taken from a $9.6-million outlay for project supervision.

The going rate in the industry, he said, is 1 percent supervision fee. For a $120-million project, the fee should be $1.2 million - which is only one-eighth of the $9.6 million that LRTA asked for project supervision.

The detailed design is to be supplied by the winning bidder. Since the design concept was submitted by Filsystems, a losing bidder, it should not have been used.

venntro
February 17th, 2009, 02:33 AM
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* * *

[B]MESSY MESHING: Although the old LRT-1 and the MRT on EDSA will finally be connected in three points — in Baclaran, North Ave. and Caloocan — to close the transport loop, their rail cars are not interchangeable.

Passengers commuting around the loop will have to disembark and then board again for their train connection. The same problem of lack of planning and integration is true with the other LRT line from Divisoria to Marikina passing through Cubao, QC.

There is supposed to be a centralized LRT authority to coordinate and seamlessly mesh the operation of all the lines, but many factors, including business considerations, prevent a workable integration.

* * *


The loop is really not seamless. Too bad for commuters.

filcan
February 17th, 2009, 02:42 AM
Ya the grand central terminal will be a hectic place when all passengers will have to leave their previous trains just to board a different train to complete their trip.

leechtat
February 17th, 2009, 03:36 AM
^^ though, it will surely be a haven for food kiosks due to the high-foot traffic...

hecky12
February 17th, 2009, 03:43 AM
sino ba o kanino ba pwedeng isumbong ang pamunuan ng mrt taft station? kasi hinayaan na nila yung mga vendor dun sa corridor papuntang line 1 as well dun sa corridor papuntang mcdo... crowded na nga ang station ayun at andami pang vendor kaya nagsisikip lalo e.. isumbong nyo nga yan.. kairita e..

venntro
February 17th, 2009, 03:58 AM
^^ though, it will surely be a haven for food kiosks due to the high-foot traffic...

^^ Most likely. In fact there are already food kiosks in most MRT stations, what more inside a Grand Central terminal.

queetz@home
February 17th, 2009, 04:11 AM
* * *

MESSY MESHING: Although the old LRT-1 and the MRT on EDSA will finally be connected in three points — in Baclaran, North Ave. and Caloocan — to close the transport loop, their rail cars are not interchangeable.

Passengers commuting around the loop will have to disembark and then board again for their train connection. The same problem of lack of planning and integration is true with the other LRT line from Divisoria to Marikina passing through Cubao, QC.

There is supposed to be a centralized LRT authority to coordinate and seamlessly mesh the operation of all the lines, but many factors, including business considerations, prevent a workable integration.



Just so everyone is clear, the reasons why they are not interchangable is not because of incompatibility of the cars but the "many factors" such as business considerations. It all boils down to the ownership and control of the MRT, which the government has been trying to take over but without success. Bottom line, the fact that MRTC is trying to get some of LRT1's old cars is proof that the cars are interchangable. So the jury is still out whether we will have a seamless one seat ride between the lines either sooner or later...

chris_nigel
February 17th, 2009, 05:32 AM
LECHE yang MRT3 palibhasa alam nila d kaya boyccotin ng tao kaya nagpapalabas sila ng ganyang statement dapat kasi kunin na ng gobyerno yan para magawan na ng paraan eh

venntro
February 17th, 2009, 05:53 AM
Doroteo Jose-Recto Link

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/87/Recto_link.jpg/600px-Recto_link.jpg

^^ Whew, those houses are just within reach! :ohno:

adgaps
February 17th, 2009, 07:02 AM
LRT extension design copied from Filsystems?
By Federico D. Pascual Jr. Philstar

EDSA MADNESS: Everyday, motorists and commuters passing that busy stretch of EDSA between Monumento in Caloocan and North Ave. in Quezon City are incensed by the heavy, bruising traffic, especially during rush hours.

One reason for the mess is the narrowing of the road with the ongoing work of the contractor building the columns for the projected light rail transit line to connect the LRT-1 terminal in Monumento to the MRT end-station at EDSA-North Ave.

The latest tidbit on the project is that Light Rail Transit Administration officials will be sued for syndicated estafa for allegedly copying and using without permission the design by another company that had submitted an earlier bid offer.

The Filipinas (Prefab Bldg.) Systems, or Filsystems, said it would sue LRTA officials headed by their president Mel Robles for alleged infringement on Filsystems’ rights to its extension design registered under Copyright No. 1-2006-07 on April 24, 2006.

* * *

PROJECT UPDATE: The LRTA commitment to President Gloria Arroyo is to finish and start operating the EDSA elevated rail link before the May 2010 elections. (Yes, there will be elections.)

As of last week, ground work on the 5.71-km line on EDSA from Balintawak to North Ave., estimated to cost P1,402 million, was more than 15 percent complete.

Connecting the LRT terminal in Caloocan to the new Balintawak station, covering a distance of 2.7 km, will cost P1,398 million. Work on it was 13.8 percent complete as of last week.

The entire project, including civil and architectural works, three new stations at Balintawak, Roosevelt and North Ave., electromechanical works (except rolling stock), was initially estimated to cost P6,322.85 million.

The copyright suit may cost LRTA officials a hefty sum. If found guilty, they will have to pay for the crime of pirating the exclusive Filsystems design. The royalties due Filsystems will be another matter.

* * *

MESSY MESHING: Although the old LRT-1 and the MRT on EDSA will finally be connected in three points — in Baclaran, North Ave. and Caloocan — to close the transport loop, their rail cars are not interchangeable.

Passengers commuting around the loop will have to disembark and then board again for their train connection. The same problem of lack of planning and integration is true with the other LRT line from Divisoria to Marikina passing through Cubao, QC.

There is supposed to be a centralized LRT authority to coordinate and seamlessly mesh the operation of all the lines, but many factors, including business considerations, prevent a workable integration.

* * *

BID HIDDEN?: Albert Reyes, Filsystems lawyer, said the entire LRT extension design — including the designation of three stations, the train system, communications, signaling, ticketing and electric power system — is owned and copyrighted by Filsystems.

In July 2004, Filsystems submitted an unsolicited bid proposal to LRTA, complete with the required feasibility study, the basic contractual terms and the obligations of the proponent and the government, and the technical and financial components under Rule 10 of Unsolicited Proposals of the BOT Law.

Under the law, LRTA must inform any bidder within 30 days of his submission if the unsolicited bid was complete or incomplete. If complete, LRTA must declare it accepted or rejected within 60 days.

Reyes said LRTA failed to inform the National Economic and Development Authority that there was a pending unsolicited bid, so NEDA was not aware of the Filsystems offer when it shifted to solicited bids.

* * *

PADDED FEE: Reyes said that in its meeting of Nov. 29, 2006, the Cabinet was merely shown a Pentel pen overlay copy of the Filsystems design, which he said LRTA passed off as its own.

In a hearing of the House oversight committee, it was disclosed that LRTA asked the Department of Budget and Management on Nov. 24, 2006, for P101.8 million for design consultancy (for a non-existent original design). The amount was to be taken from a $9.6-million outlay for project supervision.

The going rate in the industry, he said, is 1 percent supervision fee. For a $120-million project, the fee should be $1.2 million - which is only one-eighth of the $9.6 million that LRTA asked for project supervision.

The detailed design is to be supplied by the winning bidder. Since the design concept was submitted by Filsystems, a losing bidder, it should not have been used.

nbasa ko ito sa Phil. Star nung Sunday... ngulat nga ako eh...

ona
February 17th, 2009, 08:48 AM
^^ Most likely. In fact there are already food kiosks in most MRT stations, what more inside a Grand Central terminal.

The LRT North Station will be connected to SM Annex 3rd level, so people can stop by the mall to shop & dine kung puno na kiosks sa Grand Central Terminal.

RonnieR
February 17th, 2009, 12:31 PM
nbasa ko ito sa Phil. Star nung Sunday... ngulat nga ako eh...

I don't believe the report...of course, kakasuhan nila yan, may sagot din dyan ang LRT. Remember, the complainant lost the bidding.

^^ Whew, those houses are just within reach! :ohno:

Illegal squatters sila. Before, Atienza had a plan to transfer them ang iba nailipat na...but don't know with Mayor Lim's plan.

ionmarx
February 17th, 2009, 01:33 PM
That map is kinda outdated. Although there are maps on every station that would supplement those.

Anyway, re the detour from LRT2 to LRT1, there's a veeeerrryyy long walkway from LRT2 Recto station to LRT1 Doroteo Jose station.

True. To think na walang mall sa pagitan para man lang aircon :p

Tuloy pa rin ba ang MRT4? Yung sinasabing yung isang terminus eh sa "Old Bilibid Prison" na katabi ng walkway ng LRT1-MRT2 link. Kung totoo man yun siguro rason na rin kung kaya mahaba yung walkway at pa-L ang korte. Para yung kanto eh link papunta dun sa MRT4... Iniimagine ko lang hehehe :D


Just so everyone is clear, the reasons why they are not interchangable is not because of incompatibility of the cars but the "many factors" such as business considerations. It all boils down to the ownership and control of the MRT, which the government has been trying to take over but without success. Bottom line, the fact that MRTC is trying to get some of LRT1's old cars is proof that the cars are interchangable. So the jury is still out whether we will have a seamless one seat ride between the lines either sooner or later...

Yeah I read about Mr. Pascual's column too today. Eh dahil lurker dito, naalala ko yung nabanggit about compatibility of MRT3's line with LRT1 LRVs. Teka, talagang technically pwede? As in tipong kung nakarekta yung linya ng MRT3 sa LRT1 walang kailangan i-adjust? Found the news article (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/metro-manila/10/23/08/dotc-mrt-eye-borrowing-40-train-cars-lrt) from ABS-CBN... Sabi i-coconvert daw. So kahit pano may pagkakaiba? (correct me if I'm wrong, binase ko lang kay Leandro Mendoza yung fact na to hehe)

Question: Bakit nga ba nagdepend pa sa consortium (MRTC) ang gobyerno nuong ginawa ang MRT3 kung kaya naman nilang ipasa sa LRTA yung pangagasiwa nito? Kung nagkataon nung oras ni FVR o ni Erap eh di seamless na sana at walang problema sa overcrowding at overheating sa MRT3 di ba?

han742
February 17th, 2009, 03:07 PM
update, update... 17 Feb 09

balintawak pics
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5862/imgbal2mon20ac5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8696/imgbal2mon21tn9.jpg

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http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/822/imgbal2mon22wq2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/2193/imgbal2mon23lx6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/930/imgbal2mon24am3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9398/imgbal2mon25qw1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


monumento area pics
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/3863/imgmon20zn0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/3985/imgmon21bm4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5519/imgmon22mg0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5623/imgmon23xs4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5826/imgmon24yf6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/522/imgmon25ps6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

:cheers::banana:

jefflacs
February 17th, 2009, 03:27 PM
Ang galing nung panghulma nila, naalala ko yung mga Creepy crawlers mould ko hehehe

boroyski
February 17th, 2009, 03:49 PM
Last time I checked this thread 2 months ago, hukayan pa lang. Ngayon malapit na maglagay ng beams. ambilis ah!

han742
February 17th, 2009, 04:05 PM
MORE UPDATES...
17 Feb 09

oliveros area (towards balintawak)...
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oliveros overpass towards royal...
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this one really caught my attention... huh:lol::lol::lol:
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royal overpass towards oliveros...
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royal overpass towards muñoz
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sm north edsa (future site of grand central terminal, EDSA), no activity so far here...
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/8372/imgsm01px8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::cheers::cheers:

boom_box
February 17th, 2009, 04:23 PM
kaya pala ma trapik dahil ginamit ang isang lane para sa construction... hehe

i just can't imagine how it would turn North Edsa when the Grand Station is finished..

RonnieR
February 17th, 2009, 04:37 PM
han742: thanks for the update.....cool :)

kratos1211
February 17th, 2009, 04:39 PM
Great job!!! Very Nice Update!!!
han742 :applause::applause::applause::cheers2:

han742
February 17th, 2009, 04:50 PM
^^
ok, ...just adding more colors to our discussions...:)

mhek
February 17th, 2009, 04:54 PM
sa linya ng kuryente napunta atensyon ko.

han742
February 17th, 2009, 05:03 PM
sa linya ng kuryente napunta atensyon ko.

i dunno, but i think those are PLDT duplex wires, kasi nung nag zoom ako towards muñoz, siyempre naglakihan din ung mga wires na nagkalat na ito, but never mind those wires, focus your eyes na lang sa mga posts na nakataas na,:bash::) or else dun sa sexy man lang...:lol:

RonnieR
February 17th, 2009, 05:13 PM
Question: Bakit nga ba nagdepend pa sa consortium (MRTC) ang gobyerno nuong ginawa ang MRT3 kung kaya naman nilang ipasa sa LRTA yung pangagasiwa nito? Kung nagkataon nung oras ni FVR o ni Erap eh di seamless na sana at walang problema sa overcrowding at overheating sa MRT3 di ba?

To answer to your query:

Bad contract derails MRT 3

Commuters see no respite from jampacked trains

By Darwin G. Amojelar, Reporter

A railway contract that supposedly has put the government at great disadvantage is delaying expansion plans for the Metro Rail Transit Line 3, or MRT 3. The railway line runs from North Avenue in Quezon City to Baclaran in Pasay City.

Roberto Lastimoso, the general manager of Metro Rail Transit Authority, or MRTA, which operates MRT 3, said the plans to expand the railway line were drawn up three years ago but have been stalled by objections from Metro Rail Transit Corp., or MRTC, which owns the assets of MRT 3.

Another option of the government to expand the capacity of MRT 3, Lastimoso added, was the buyout of equity of the railway line. Negotiations with MRTC in May bogged down, however.

“In a buyout, we can follow our expansion plans,” the Metro Rail chief said.

MRTC is a consortium led by the Sobrepeña family’s Fil-Estate Management. Other investors include Ayala Land Inc., Anglo-Philippine Holdings Corp., Ramcar Inc. and Greenfield Development Corp.

“The contract [with MRTC] is onerous to the government . . . [the contract says] that any improvement, any alteration, in the design and improvement in [MRT 3] facilities should have the consent of the owners,” Lastimoso said.

He added that the government cannot procure additional trains for MRT 3 because MRTC has the right of first refusal under the contract.

MRTC, however, has no plans to purchase additional trains, according to Lastimoso. The railway consortium’s stand, he said, has led MRT 3 to seek the legal opinion of the Department of Justice on the government’s plan to buy more trains through the Department of Transportation and Communications.

MRT buyout

Buying out MRT 3 was raised because the government can no longer afford to subsidize the railway line’s operations. The government is paying the Sobrepeña-led consortium $3.33 million a month representing equity payment and $1.43 million a month for maintenance costs.

The government, through the Transportation and Finance departments, entered into an agreement with the consortium to buy out the build-lease-transfer (BLT) contract of the MRTC for $865 million, ahead of the period stipulated in the concession agreement.

The early buyout will result in $380 million in savings for the government, according to the Finance department. An earlier study, though, showed that the savings can run to $1 billion.

Lastimoso said if the government failed to buy back MRT 3, it would pay $10 million in monthly equity payments by 2010 and $1.6 million for maintenance costs.

If the negotiations bogged down again, the two parties will maintain the BLT contract guarantee of a 15-percent return on investment. The contract stipulated that the consortium should be paid for 25 years.

The government’s plan to buy more trains stemmed from commuter congestion at MRT 3 stations as a result of higher fuel prices and record-high inflation. Costlier fuel and food have forced many, including car owners, to use trains and other public vehicles to save on expenses.

D'Watcher
February 17th, 2009, 06:29 PM
sa linya ng kuryente napunta atensyon ko.

linya ng kuryente ang naging focal point hehehhe...but otherwise nice to see the
fast work they're doing ...parang may hinahabol ba!

pi_malejana
February 17th, 2009, 07:01 PM
@han... about dun sa first photo mo dun sa first update... bakit naghihiwalay ung daan when turning right into NLEX?? imbis na 5 lanes nagiging 3 na lang tapos pansin ko wala namang dumadaan doon..:dunno:

han742
February 17th, 2009, 07:26 PM
@han... about dun sa first photo mo dun sa first update... bakit naghihiwalay ung daan when turning right into NLEX?? imbis na 5 lanes nagiging 3 na lang tapos pansin ko wala namang dumadaan doon..:dunno:

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6475/bal2mon201rf4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
as you can see from this picture, yellow arrow are those bound for monumento and manila, green arrow are those bound for NLEX, while red arrow are those bound for quirino highway going to novaliches,

sinarado na kasi yung way dito sa service road na ito (red arrow) papuntang NLEX para maiwasan ang sobrang traffic at pati NLEX nadadamay, so if you are going to go to NLEX, never ever pass this red arrow at naku baka kung saan-saan ka pa mapunta,:nuts::bash: just take the green arrow, un lang,

pi_malejana
February 17th, 2009, 11:47 PM
^^ thanks!! i do remember that road leading to novaliches... madaming bus na pa-norte ang humihinto jan para kumuha ng passengers...

imo, mali ung plan nilang isara un..:bash:

venntro
February 18th, 2009, 01:53 AM
@han742... dami mong pics. Thanks for the update.

chris_nigel
February 18th, 2009, 02:35 AM
nice updates guys:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: kainis lang yung mga MERALCO wires ang linis sana kung wala yan

kaso d ba nakaharang yung monumento ni bonifacio ano gagawin dun d ba lilipat daw yun? ano b na gagawin dun?:ohno::ohno:

el_dasik_oo1
February 18th, 2009, 03:02 AM
kaya pala ma trapik dahil ginamit ang isang lane para sa construction... hehe


MORE UPDATES...
17 Feb 09

this one really caught my attention... huh:lol::lol::lol:
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/4496/imgoliv2royal25vd6.jpg

:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::cheers::cheers:

Paanong hindi magkakatrapik.. Hindi lang dahil sa ginamit ang isang lane, kung di dahil rin sa billboard na yan. matinik talaga si wowowilly :lol:

Kidding aside, mukhang maganda ang kalalabasan ng project na ito ah.. Good thing walang makakain na lane kapag tapos na ang project na ito. Paano ba nila ikakabit ito sa LRT-1 pagdating sa monumento?

venntro
February 18th, 2009, 03:05 AM
^^ Oolala!! :cheers: :banana::lol:

el_dasik_oo1
February 18th, 2009, 03:07 AM
nice updates guys:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: kainis lang yung mga MERALCO wires ang linis sana kung wala yan

kaso d ba nakaharang yung monumento ni bonifacio ano gagawin dun d ba lilipat daw yun? ano b na gagawin dun?:ohno::ohno:

sana nga ayusin ng MERALCO yan.. kung pwede lang gawin underground yan, i-underground na yan..

adgaps
February 18th, 2009, 03:24 AM
update, update... 17 Feb 09


monumento area pics
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/3863/imgmon20zn0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/3985/imgmon21bm4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5519/imgmon22mg0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5623/imgmon23xs4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5826/imgmon24yf6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/522/imgmon25ps6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



nung napadaan ako jan kahapon hindi pa ganyan yung mga posts... hindi pa nasesementuhan... ambilis naman nila...

saka, wala pa yatang naitatayong poste sa Bagong Barrio di ba?

venntro
February 18th, 2009, 03:34 AM
Creation of team to monitor infrastructure fund urged (http://http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=441207&publicationSubCategoryId=66)
By Ma. Elisa P. Osorio Updated February 18, 2009

MANILA, Philippines - Businessmen who committed to putting up half of the P100 billion infrastructure fund are asking the government to set up a monitoring team to ensure that the money will be used properly.

“We want a monitoring group composed of church leaders, representatives of the business organization, the government and probably the academe,” Edgardo Lacson, president of the Philippine Chamber of Commerce and Industry (PCCI) said in a telephone interview.

According to Lacson, funders must be represented in the monitoring team to assure people putting up the money that they will be able to earn from their investment.

He explained that choosing which project to fund is crucial because the aim of the fund is to pump prime the economy. “We need to be careful. The project to be chosen must be the one with the biggest multiplier effect,” he noted.

“We need to be prepared. When the crisis ends, the Philippines must be ready to house new investors and this can be done by improving our country during this time of crisis,” Lacson explained further.

Lacson said the group will choose the project from a list pre-approved by the National Economic Development Agency (NEDA).

Aside from this, Lacson said it is imperative to make the bidding process as transparent as possible. “We cannot afford another controversy related to our infrastructure projects. We want this to run as smoothly as possible,” he added.

Lacson said there are already three possible projects. These are the LRT-MRT connection, the extension of the North Luzon Expressway (NLEX) to Diosdado Macapagal Airport and the extension of the South Luzon Expressway.

Lacson said the combined value of the three projects can be more than the private sector part. He said the infrastructure fund will be able to bankroll its first project by June. Initially, the target was to get the fund running by first quarter. The delays, Lacson said, was due to some of the questions raised regarding the funds.

“This is an unprecedented idea. We have to be careful because we do not want to make a mistake. That will be bad for the country,” he said.

Lacson stressed the importance of the infrastructure fund because he said this will take the place of the overseas development assistance (ODA) funds. The ODA received by the Philippines slowed down as a result of the slowdown in the global economy as most nations focus on their own pump priming measures.

higen
February 18th, 2009, 03:58 AM
^^This might be a good idea

han742
February 18th, 2009, 04:09 AM
nice updates guys:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: kainis lang yung mga MERALCO wires ang linis sana kung wala yan

kaso d ba nakaharang yung monumento ni bonifacio ano gagawin dun d ba lilipat daw yun? ano b na gagawin dun?:ohno::ohno:

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/3379/lrt1monumentozoomcopyzi8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
may mga binubutas na sa side na ito ng Mercury Drug Monumento at hindi na siguro kailangan pang gibain ang Monumento ni Bonifacio, maluwag naman kasi ang area na ito kaya mukhang ililiko nila ang LRT coach sa direksyon dito, meron na rin ngang mga pink fences parallel dun sa dulo ng LRT 1, mukhang dun yata sila maggigiba ng pader ng LRT para dun padaanin ang mga train, parang napagod yata si banana hindi na gumalaw ah:)

han742
February 18th, 2009, 04:15 AM
nung napadaan ako jan kahapon hindi pa ganyan yung mga posts... hindi pa nasesementuhan... ambilis naman nila...

saka, wala pa yatang naitatayong poste sa Bagong Barrio di ba?

mukhang wala pa kasi kakabutas at kakabuhos pa lang ng semento kaya pinatutuyo pa, pero within this week siguro magtatayuan na rin ang mga metal frames na yan para sa mga poste,

venntro
February 18th, 2009, 04:19 AM
mukhang wala pa kasi kakabutas at kakabuhos pa lang ng semento kaya pinatutuyo pa, pero within this week siguro magtatayuan na rin ang mga metal frames na yan para sa mga poste,

^^ They are really fast tracking this loop. One of the fastest if not the fastest construction project (construction phase only) in the metro.

adgaps
February 18th, 2009, 04:34 AM
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1453/lrt1monumentozoomcopydx4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
may mga binubutas na sa side na ito ng Mercury Drug Monumento at hindi na siguro kailangan pang gibain ang Monumento ni Bonifacio, maluwag naman kasi ang area na ito kaya mukhang ililiko nila ang LRT coach sa direksyon dito, meron na rin ngang mga pink fences parallel dun sa dulo ng LRT 1, mukhang dun yata sila maggigiba ng pader ng LRT para dun padaanin ang mga train, :)

yeah, i saw many fenced areas near Monumento Station... kaso matagal nang nabutasan yun... hindi pa tinatayuan ng posts siguro dahil sa traffic concerns... lalo may mga itatayo ring posts sa tabi nung bus terminal dun...

^^ They are really fast tracking this loop. One of the fastest if not the fastest construction project (construction phase only) in the metro.

correct! i agree... mabilis ang construction na ito... very much good...

han742
February 18th, 2009, 04:39 AM
^^ They are really fast tracking this loop. One of the fastest if not the fastest construction project (construction phase only) in the metro.

sinabi mo pa, eh from balintawak to royal natayuan na lahat ng poste, siguro kung hindi lang nagkaproblema sa permit ng caloocan baka matagal na rin nasimulan dito, pero karapatan din ang iginiit nila dito kaya hindi rin sila masisisi,

kratos1211
February 18th, 2009, 04:40 AM
^^basta may pondo at malaki ang budget $$$$, lahat napapabilis :cheers:

han742
February 18th, 2009, 04:45 AM
yeah, i saw many fenced areas near Monumento Station... kaso matagal nang nabutasan yun... hindi pa tinatayuan ng posts siguro dahil sa traffic concerns... lalo may mga itatayo ring posts sa tabi nung bus terminal dun...

oo nga, sa laki ba naman ng mga heavy equipments eh mangangailangan ng space para makagalaw ng maayos, dapat siguro magkaroon na sila ng rerouting scheme sa banda jan,

han742
February 18th, 2009, 04:46 AM
^^basta may pondo at malaki ang budget $$$$, lahat napapabilis :cheers:

yeah that's right, pinababagal lang talaga ng malilikot na kamay ang takbo ng ekonomiya,:ohno:

ericlucky290
February 18th, 2009, 04:48 AM
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/3379/lrt1monumentozoomcopyzi8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
may mga binubutas na sa side na ito ng Mercury Drug Monumento at hindi na siguro kailangan pang gibain ang Monumento ni Bonifacio, maluwag naman kasi ang area na ito kaya mukhang ililiko nila ang LRT coach sa direksyon dito, meron na rin ngang mga pink fences parallel dun sa dulo ng LRT 1, mukhang dun yata sila maggigiba ng pader ng LRT para dun padaanin ang mga train, parang napagod yata si banana hindi na gumalaw ah:)

The government have no plans to move Bonifacio Monument. Check this old news


BONIFACIO MONUMENT NOT MOVING

Caloocan City, Jan. 25, 2003 (Star) - Caloocan City Mayor Reynaldo Malonzo announced yesterday the shelving of his plans to transfer the Bonifacio monument to the city's northern district, specifically the Tala area.

Malonzo's move came after he received a copy of a resolution from the National Historical Institute (NHI) that finally declared the Katipunan founder's obelisk erected at the city's busiest business area as "a national monument."

The resolution, Malonzo said, was signed by NHI chairman Ambeth Ocampo, members Serafin Quiason and Heidi Gloria, National Museum director Corazon Alvina, and National Library director Prudencia Cruz.

Earlier, Malonzo was criticized for announcing his plan to transfer the Bonifacio monument to the Tala area, purportedly to give way to the expansion of the Light Rail Transit (LRT) station near the monument and for the planned construction of a railway for the Metro Rail Transit (MRT) that will connect EDSA to Malabon City.

The mayor had said that with the removal of Bonifacio monument, the traffic situation in the city's busiest thoroughfare would greatly improve.

He also said that once the monument is brought to Tala, the locality would gain prestige, resulting in economic development in the area.

But Malonzo's plan received an uproar from various sectors and government officials, including Tourism Secretary Richard Gordon.

The mayor earlier said that contrary to public perception, the NHI has not included the Bonifacio monument in its list of national monuments and national heritage.

He also lamented that during the celebration of Bonifacio Day, the hero's monument in Caloocan was not given that much attention.

On Feb. 23, 1918, Republic Act 2760 called for the construction of a monument in honor of Andres Bonifacio, and to authorize the creation of a committee that would take up popular subscriptions and to appropriate funds for it.

On Nov. 30, 1929, Aurora Aragon Quezon laid the ceremonial cornerstone of the monument which was unveiled on Nov. 30, 1933. The marble-wrapped monument was designed and built by architect and national artist Guillermo Tolentino.

Last Aug. 14, the NHI declared the Bonifacio monument in Caloocan including the monument's rotunda a national monument. This coming Feb. 16, the 41st founding day of Caloocan City, the monument's marker would again be unveiled.

Gordon said yesterday he welcomed Malonzo decision to let the Monument stay where it stands.

"I have expressed time and again my opposition to transfer the monument. It should remain there," he said.

The tourism chief said they are now coordinating with the NHI and the local governmnet to develop the monument into a historical park.

han742
February 18th, 2009, 04:59 AM
The government have no plans to move Bonifacio Monument. Check this old news

para namang si rizal na pinatapon sa dapitan nyan kung ganun ang gagawin nila sa monumento ni andres bonifacio,:ohno:

han742
February 18th, 2009, 05:19 AM
sana nga ayusin ng MERALCO yan.. kung pwede lang gawin underground yan, i-underground na yan..

if you look closely dun sa zoomed images mukhang mga wires ng telepono ito dahil duplex wires makikita dito, naku napakahigpit ata ng MERALCO sa mga nagkawing kawing na wire:nuts:, pero i admit maraming dapat ayusin lalo na ung mga dadaanan ng riles,

venntro
February 18th, 2009, 05:23 AM
yeah that's right, pinababagal lang talaga ng malilikot na kamay ang takbo ng ekonomiya,:ohno:

^^ Sama mo na rin diyan yung mga militante at opposition kasi di sila naambunan ng grasya.

Ecija
February 18th, 2009, 05:58 AM
Wow! nakakatuwa naman ang bilis ng construction. Parang maghohost tayo ng olympic games ah hehe. :banana:

Sana di pakialaman ito ni Harry Roque, yung wig na lang nya ayusin nya!:lol:

venntro
February 18th, 2009, 06:03 AM
Wow! nakakatuwa naman ang bilis ng construction. Parang maghohost tayo ng olympic games ah hehe. :banana:

Sana di pakialaman ito ni Harry Roque, yung wig na lang nya ayusin nya!:lol:

^^ Ambisyoso lang yan, KSP kasi.

RonnieR
February 18th, 2009, 06:04 AM
Kidding aside, mukhang maganda ang kalalabasan ng project na ito ah.. Good thing walang makakain na lane kapag tapos na ang project na ito. Paano ba nila ikakabit ito sa LRT-1 pagdating sa monumento?

There was already a render in previous post - dadaan ang train sa gilid ng monumento ni bonifacio papuntang edsa.

chris_nigel
February 18th, 2009, 08:57 AM
syempre isa yan sa mga iiwan daw na legacy ni GMA ..RAMDAM ANG KAUNLARAN

manchowyin
February 18th, 2009, 11:33 AM
Simply great.

Paul George Alcala
February 18th, 2009, 12:43 PM
Thanks sa mga naguupdate. tnx sa pictures.


2 lanes halos pala ang sarado sa paggawa ng LRT. anu kaya magiging lagay ng traffic sa Cavite nyan next year kapag sinimulan na ang LRT south extention. Kaya siguro inaayos na ang daan sa bacoor at imus at gagawing 6 lanes (3 going to North, 3 going to south).

Hopefully sana matuloy na ang LRT sa Cavite. Sayang nga lang hanggang Niyog, Bacoor na lang ang gagawin na lang unlike before na hanggang Dasmarinas ang plano. Sana simulan na rin ang LRT2 extention from Recto to Divisoria, saka ung eastern extension ng LRT2.

lochinvar
February 18th, 2009, 02:38 PM
"mukhang maganda ang kalalabasan ng project na ito ah.."

Maganda talaga itong project, may hawak pang liquor. :banana: :banana:

jefflacs
February 18th, 2009, 05:27 PM
In this time of crisis, I think tumaas ang chance na matuloy lahat ng mga planned/shelved infrastructure projects, kailangan umikot ang pera xD

japimil-noypi
February 18th, 2009, 09:34 PM
http://g.imagehost.org/0066/new.jpg


Matagal na po akong lurker dito! Natuwa lang po ako sa bilis ng pag-usad ng LRT. :)
Di po ako masyadong magaling sa photoshop pero nagtry po akong iedit isang picture dito. Sana mappreciate po ninyo kahit pangit.:)

ionmarx
February 18th, 2009, 11:15 PM
^^ Actually, ang galing! :) Una kong makita akala ko talaga update na. Hahaha! Mas naisip ko pa nung una na, ay, phinotoshop yung puting linya, or yung green grass area sa kanan haha kesa dun sa riles mismo :lol:

Di bale kung ganyan ka-ganda ang kalalabasan di ba?


In this time of crisis, I think tumaas ang chance na matuloy lahat ng mga planned/shelved infrastructure projects, kailangan umikot ang pera xD

Quite ironic, kung kelan kinukulang tayo sa pampondo tsaka nagkakaganito eh no? Pero kung ganun din lang, makes me somewhat wish, sana laging may krisis :lol:

lochinvar
February 19th, 2009, 12:45 AM
Mukha yatang kumitid ang EDSA.

habagatcentral1
February 19th, 2009, 04:16 AM
Thanks sa mga naguupdate. tnx sa pictures.


2 lanes halos pala ang sarado sa paggawa ng LRT. anu kaya magiging lagay ng traffic sa Cavite nyan next year kapag sinimulan na ang LRT south extention. Kaya siguro inaayos na ang daan sa bacoor at imus at gagawing 6 lanes (3 going to North, 3 going to south).

Hopefully sana matuloy na ang LRT sa Cavite. Sayang nga lang hanggang Niyog, Bacoor na lang ang gagawin na lang unlike before na hanggang Dasmarinas ang plano. Sana simulan na rin ang LRT2 extention from Recto to Divisoria, saka ung eastern extension ng LRT2.

Talaga? Parang walang improvement na nangyayari sa Aguinaldo Highway eh...same old same old 8 kilometer parking lot every rush hour...:nuts:

That is why, Molino Boulevard and the Coastal Road Extention should be opened up to the public immediately. Unfortunately for the latter, may isang may-ari ng lupa dyan na ayaw mag-give way para sa Molino project dahil nagbabayad pa daw ng buwis sa Bacoor Municipio....kakapiranggot na lupa pero di pa rin nagagawan ng kalsada....possible bottleneck in the future yan.

Waldenstrom
February 19th, 2009, 04:27 AM
Thanks sa mga naguupdate. tnx sa pictures.


2 lanes halos pala ang sarado sa paggawa ng LRT. anu kaya magiging lagay ng traffic sa Cavite nyan next year kapag sinimulan na ang LRT south extention. Kaya siguro inaayos na ang daan sa bacoor at imus at gagawing 6 lanes (3 going to North, 3 going to south).

Hopefully sana matuloy na ang LRT sa Cavite. Sayang nga lang hanggang Niyog, Bacoor na lang ang gagawin na lang unlike before na hanggang Dasmarinas ang plano. Sana simulan na rin ang LRT2 extention from Recto to Divisoria, saka ung eastern extension ng LRT2.
LRT extension to Cavite has 3 phases. 3rd phase yung Imus-Dasma.

absinthe_888
February 19th, 2009, 06:42 AM
Squeaking wheel (http://philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=441607&publicationSubCategoryId=64)
FIRST PERSON By Alex Magno

I am immediately suspicious of losing bidders who raise a ruckus long after the bidding is done and try to derail delivery of urgently needed public goods. More often than not, they are driven by the Squeaking Wheel Principle: the squeaking wheel gets some oil.

The past few days, a losing bidder to the LRT-1 extension project has been beating up on the agency responsible for the project, raising a host of unrelated issues and making unfounded claims. The losing bidder has threatened to bring the LRTA to court for supposedly violating its intellectual property rights. That is a rather tenuous claim and when people merely threaten to sue rather than actually file a case, it is evident that the sole purpose of the exercise is merely acoustic.

The losing bidder in this case is F.F. Cruz/Filsystems, one of the country’s largest construction firms. Through its publicists, the company claims its design for the extension of the LRT to connect with the MRT at North Avenue has been copied by the winning bidder. This claim is being made despite the fact that the extension of the line replicates, understandably, the existing facility that runs from Monumento to Baclaran.

It turns out, the Filsystems claim is based on an earlier unsolicited bid to extend the LRT from Monumento to North Avenue (as against the other option of extending the MRT to interconnect with the Monumento terminal of the LRT). The other option was obviously less practical. It would have involved removing the monument from the crowded Monumento junction.

The unsolicited bid was submitted to the DOTC and was immediately superseded by the government’s decision to assign the priority interconnection project to the LRTA. The unsolicited bid was thus rendered moot.

At any rate, the unsolicited Filsystems bid offered a concept involving the construction of three additional stations for the LRT at Balintawak, Congressional Avenue and North Avenue to finally close the loop and benefit the commuting public. Why the MRT, in the first place, was allowed to build a line that ends at North Avenue is a prior question that needs to be asked. But that is another matter.

The company had a sketch of that concept copyrighted by the National Library. It was not a patent for some novel engineering breakthrough.

If I, for instance, drew a sketch of a pedestrian walkway from the Luneta to my house in Quezon City, I suppose the National Library would copyright that too. But that will not give me exclusive right to bid for the public works contract in the event government, in some insane moment, decided the project is worth doing.

Filsystems had, at the onset, appeared to have realized the folly of the very claim it now repeats when it participated in the bid for the project. The competitive bidding scrupulously followed every prescribed procedure and was witnessed by representatives from the World Bank, the Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines, concerned NGOs and the Contractors Association of the Philippines.

Filsystems lost that bid because it submitted incomplete documents. That is stupid; but it happens. Complete documentation is the indispensable rule for every competitive bidding process.

The company, in effect, admitted its mistake by trying to submit the absent documents after the bidding was done. By then it was academic. They should not assume the rules might be bent to suit them.

The world does not revolve around trying to appease them. Or buying their peace.

Since Filsystems participated in the bidding process to begin with, they should have fully understood that what was being awarded was design and execution of the project. If this company has any design issues, they should take that up with the winning bidder, not with the LRTA. The agency merely supervised the bidding and oversees the execution of the project according to engineering specifications and schedule of delivery.

In a word, Filsystems has no leg to stand on. The firm might have lost out on a technicality, but that is what bidding procedures are all about. Any firm that loses out on a technicality did not, evidently, exercise due diligence. The fault is entirely on the losing bidder’s lap.

Proper bidding procedure operates on a “pass/fail” principle. Incomplete documentation means the initial requirement for participation has not been met. This principle is essential in ensuring the integrity of the process and its participants.

Having no leg to stand on, however, is not enough reason to keep Filsystems from raising a ruckus. But it does force this firm to resort to extraneous issues and malicious claims.

For instance, the LRTA has been accused of purchasing rail cars for the Baclaran-Bacoor extension which does not yet exist. It turns out, the rail cars were purchased to increase passenger load capacity on the existing track and are all fully deployed.

The accusation is nothing more than a mean attempt to smear the agency that supervised the bid.

Questions have been raised about why the MRT and the LRT use tracks of different gauges, closing the possibility of the same trains literally running around the loop. That is a good question. But it harks back to mistakes made many years ago and does not bear on the present issue.

We could, of course, decide to close down the metropolis for a few months so that the old rails might be torn up and replaced, new rail carriages might be bought and we could all loop around our crowded city. But it is not too late to even think about that. It is much more practical for commuters to walk a few steps and change trains.

And it is also too late for the losing bidder to try and behave like a squeaking wheel.

sushi___
February 19th, 2009, 06:42 AM
^^ Ambisyoso lang yan, KSP kasi.

di na nya magagalaw yan... hayaan na lang natin sya dumaldal... sang skul sya ulet? daldal diba? pati si diokno daldal

venntro
February 19th, 2009, 06:58 AM
di na nya magagalaw yan... hayaan na lang natin sya dumaldal... sang skul sya ulet? daldal diba? pati si diokno daldal

^^ Pansinin mo nga na yang si roque at diokno ay parehong mey HIV... Hair is Vanishing... :lol: :lol:

han742
February 19th, 2009, 07:03 AM
^^ Mr. Alex Magno -- i like how he gives his viewpoints on issues such as this,:master::master::master:

han742
February 19th, 2009, 07:07 AM
http://g.imagehost.org/0066/new.jpg


Matagal na po akong lurker dito! Natuwa lang po ako sa bilis ng pag-usad ng LRT. :)
Di po ako masyadong magaling sa photoshop pero nagtry po akong iedit isang picture dito. Sana mappreciate po ninyo kahit pangit.:)

wala na yatang mas bibilis pa sa'yo, :lol: tignan mo nga nalagyan mo na kaagad ng mga beam ang mga poste,
:lol::lol::carrot::carrot::hahaha::hahaha::pepper::pepper:
joke lang ha,;)

RonnieR
February 19th, 2009, 07:15 AM
Alex Magno: You hit it right. These losing bidders are just sour graping.

han742
February 19th, 2009, 07:19 AM
Alex Magno: You hit it right. These losing bidders are just sour graping.

baka nga naman daw kasi makalusot eh,:)

evilgenius15
February 19th, 2009, 10:50 AM
super longest light rail transit na ang LRT1 kung matatapos
lahat ng extension projects from north to south...
kung around 20 stations palang meron ngayon, paano kaya in
the future... 20 + 4 + 5-10??? = 29-34???
gaano kaya kahaba biyahe nun from cavite to sm north??? hehehe...

adgaps
February 19th, 2009, 11:09 AM
In this time of crisis, I think tumaas ang chance na matuloy lahat ng mga planned/shelved infrastructure projects, kailangan umikot ang pera xD

yaps... kelangan umikot ang pera... at maganda yung ganyang dumadami ang infractructure projects... para ma-engganyo ang mga investors...

boom_box
February 19th, 2009, 04:18 PM
yaps... kelangan umikot ang pera... at maganda yung ganyang dumadami ang infractructure projects... para ma-engganyo ang mga investors...

dapat nga eh ganyan ang takbo ng ating bansa natin kung wala yang mga pesteng politiko sa atin... :ohno:

Paul George Alcala
February 19th, 2009, 04:20 PM
Talaga? Parang walang improvement na nangyayari sa Aguinaldo Highway eh...same old same old 8 kilometer parking lot every rush hour...:nuts:

That is why, Molino Boulevard and the Coastal Road Extention should be opened up to the public immediately. Unfortunately for the latter, may isang may-ari ng lupa dyan na ayaw mag-give way para sa Molino project dahil nagbabayad pa daw ng buwis sa Bacoor Municipio....kakapiranggot na lupa pero di pa rin nagagawan ng kalsada....possible bottleneck in the future yan.


sinisimulan na lang ang widening. Pero ang bagal ng usad. ang tagal siguro dahil sa mga affected na properties. sobrang bagal nga ng improvements ng widening. mauunahan pa ata ng lrt north extention. sa talaba hanggang nagun wla pang semento. So slow talaga ang improvement ng daan sa Cavite. kelan pa ba ung Molino Boulevard na yan? tgl n nub

Planning Democracy
February 20th, 2009, 02:50 AM
dapat nga eh ganyan ang takbo ng ating bansa natin kung wala yang mga pesteng politiko sa atin... :ohno:

yep, nakaka asar talaga yung mga SOP na yan, wala silang karapatan sa pera na yon dahil kahit utang, taxpayer ang nagbabayad. imagine niyo na lang yung kaltas sa sweldo niyo sa bulsa lang nila napupunta. sayang talaga sa pera kasi for infrastructure yung mga kinukurakot e.

venntro
February 20th, 2009, 03:20 AM
yep, nakaka asar talaga yung mga SOP na yan, wala silang karapatan sa pera na yon dahil kahit utang, taxpayer ang nagbabayad. imagine niyo na lang yung kaltas sa sweldo niyo sa bulsa lang nila napupunta. sayang talaga sa pera kasi for infrastructure yung mga kinukurakot e.

^^ What's SOP?

el_dasik_oo1
February 20th, 2009, 03:35 AM
SOB ata yun.. :D

venntro
February 20th, 2009, 04:05 AM
SOB ata yun.. :D

Akala ko tuloy Son of Pitches.... :lol: :lol:

boom_box
February 20th, 2009, 04:14 AM
^^ What's SOP?

baka Son of P*ta :nuts: :lol:

na alala ko tuloy yung tula ni Jose F. Lacaba na "For Adults Only".. :nuts:

kalbongdad
February 20th, 2009, 06:30 AM
owww......akala ko sop....as in standard operating procedure....man always on top...:lol::lol::lol:...

ona
February 20th, 2009, 09:40 AM
super longest light rail transit na ang LRT1 kung matatapos
lahat ng extension projects from north to south...
kung around 20 stations palang meron ngayon, paano kaya in
the future... 20 + 4 + 5-10??? = 29-34???
gaano kaya kahaba biyahe nun from cavite to sm north??? hehehe...

estimate ko aabot ng 1.5 hours ang byahe from Cavite to LRT North kasi pag nasa Makati ako papuntang MRT North ave inaabot ng 20-30 minutes depende sa dami ng sumasakay

absinthe_888
February 20th, 2009, 10:20 AM
yaps... kelangan umikot ang pera... at maganda yung ganyang dumadami ang infractructure projects... para ma-engganyo ang mga investors...

Yup, at meh election ban kz next year kaya ngayon na inilalabas lahat ng kaperahan:lol:

mr.suroy
February 20th, 2009, 12:12 PM
baka kelangan ng express trains hehe. (no, lrt 1 have no provision for an express track.)

shyaman
February 20th, 2009, 04:00 PM
MRT-3 over Magallanes interchange

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/shyaman_king/HOLIDAY%2009%20-%20JAN%2031/DSC_0251a.jpg

venntro
February 21st, 2009, 01:08 AM
Finance endorses loan for LRT expansion (http://http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/business/02/20/09/finance-endorses-loan-lrt-expansion)
abs-cbnNEWS.com | 02/20/2009 8:33 PM


The Department of Finance has endorsed the planned P5.5 billion borrowing of the state-run Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA) this year for the mass transit’s capacity expansion and maturing obligations.

In a memorandum, Finance Secretary Margarito Teves asked President Gloria Arroyo to issue a Special Authority to increase the omnibus credit line of LRTA with Land Bank of the Philippines to P5.5 billion from P1 billion.

Teves said the amount would be used to settle actual contractual obligation amounting to P820 million incurred from the implementation of the second phase of the capacity expansion project of the LRT line along Taft Ave. that runs from Baclaran in Pasay City to Monumento.

He added that the amount would also be used to make provision for funding of the projects future billings and other requirements.

According to documents from the Finance Department, LRTA intends to spend P3.5 billion on its capacity expansion project and about P1.85 billion for maintenance and rehabilitation.

Teves informed Mrs. Arroyo that the non-realization of LRTA's proposed borrowing could result to court litigation.

"Non-realization of the proposed borrowing may result to court litigation should LRTA is unable to pay contractual obligations with contractors and would not address the increasing passenger traffic due to delayed operation of down trains," he warned.

A portion of the proposed borrowing amounting to P460 million would be used to fund the acquisition of imported spare parts for damaged trains.

The finance chief added that the contingent liability of the national government would also increase if LRTA fails to service its financial obligations.

The government-owned and -controlled corporation relies heavily on subsidies extended by the national government to cover debt servicing as well as the local counterpart requirements of its capital expenditures.

The subsidy to be extended by the government to LRTA is expected to more than double to P6.59 billion this year from only P3 billion last year. Bulk of the amount would serve as the agency’s counterpart requirement and for the payment of advances.

Despite the fresh proceeds from the proposed borrowing this year, LRTA is expected to be in the red starting 2011 onwards and it would have to resort to more borrowings in the amount of P1.67 billion per year from 2013 to 2015 and budgetary support averaging P2.45 billion from 2011 to 2015.

In 2005, President Arroyo issued a special authority allowing LRTA to borrow P3.5 billion to finance the agency’s debt service requirements, capital and operating expenditures as well as other funding requirements.

ionmarx
February 21st, 2009, 03:05 AM
Finance endorses loan for LRT expansion (http://http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/business/02/20/09/finance-endorses-loan-lrt-expansion)
abs-cbnNEWS.com | 02/20/2009 8:33 PM


Despite the fresh proceeds from the proposed borrowing this year, LRTA is expected to be in the red starting 2011 onwards and it would have to resort to more borrowings in the amount of P1.67 billion per year from 2013 to 2015 and budgetary support averaging P2.45 billion from 2011 to 2015.

In 2005, President Arroyo issued a special authority allowing LRTA to borrow P3.5 billion to finance the agency’s debt service requirements, capital and operating expenditures as well as other funding requirements.

Hindi ba problema sa gobyerno kung palagi na lang subsidy ang gagawin nila para sa LRTA? (Hindi sa gusto kong magbayad ng mas mataas na ticket ha hehehe. )

adgaps
February 21st, 2009, 05:08 AM
hindi nman siguro... anyway project din naman ng government yan...

leechtat
February 21st, 2009, 12:04 PM
siguro, dapat itaas lang ng 2 piso or 3 piso ang fare ng lrt/mrt... that may improve their cashflow..

renell
February 21st, 2009, 03:27 PM
pero kung itataas ang bayad, dapat naman merong idadagdag na service, hindi lang itataas kasi gusto ng LRTA or MRTC ng mas maraming pera. halimbawa, damihan ang carriages sa blue line, or damihan ang frequency ng tren during rush hour sa yellow and purple lines.

pwede din silang mag-invest sa paper-less ticket, long term investment lang nga

ionmarx
February 21st, 2009, 04:34 PM
^^ Kaso nga sobrang laki ng sina-subsidize ng gobyerno di ba, so yung kung magkano mang kakarampot na dagdag singil eh magreresulta rin sa lugi kung may bagong service. Yun yung dilemma nila eh. Na kahit simpleng mungkahi pa lang mula sa LRTA eh shempre umaalma na ang taumbayan.

Planning Democracy
February 21st, 2009, 05:55 PM
^^ What's SOP?

SOP = Standard Operating Procedure

In Local Government Terms, lagay! :ohno: Sometimes up to 30% of the project cost or budget. So the contractor has only 70% of the allotted budget to complete their project.

Why do we have to give those m*therf*ckers an advance or SOP? Anyone who has worked in or with government will know what I am talking about, totoo pala yung mga nababalita sa newspapers. :nuts:

Dreamtofly
February 22nd, 2009, 06:47 AM
In my own opinion I think this is the right time to give complement to the Philippine government. Commuter on the mass transit and light rail should contribute along with the government. They should increase the fair on 3 lines. This extra collection will help the government to improve the existing infra and to build again another infra.

kalbongdad
February 22nd, 2009, 01:53 PM
In my own opinion I think this is the right time to give complement to the Philippine government. Commuter on the mass transit and light rail should contribute along with the government. They should increase the fair on 3 lines. This extra collection will help the government to improve the existing infra and to build again another infra.

gusto niyo bang magka rebolusyon....yung 10cents nga lang na hinihingi para buhayin ang bataan nuclear plant ay mahihirapan daw ang ating mga kapatid na mga taga u.p.....kaya sila nagrarally....malaking pasanin daw yun para sa bayan.....hay buhay.....hindi naman ako mayaman pero di ba ang 10 cents pag sinusukli sa atin...binabale wala lang natin.....pero bakit itong mga raliyista....malaking pahirap daw sa bayan....:lol:....siguro mga poor na lang talaga ang tinatanggap sa u.p....:lol: ....pero mukha naman silang mayayaman...ang ininterview ay as usual sina hontiveros....wala na atang makitang maganda sa gobyerno ng pilipinas......yup siya nga ...yung little insect na sabi ni miriam santiago... :lol::lol::lol:

Dreamtofly
February 22nd, 2009, 02:55 PM
gusto niyo bang magka rebolusyon....yung 10cents nga lang na hinihingi para buhayin ang bataan nuclear plant ay mahihirapan daw ang ating mga kapatid na mga taga u.p.....kaya sila nagrarally....malaking pasanin daw yun para sa bayan.....hay buhay.....hindi naman ako mayaman pero di ba ang 10 cents pag sinusukli sa atin...binabale wala lang natin.....pero bakit itong mga raliyista....malaking pahirap daw sa bayan....:lol:....siguro mga poor na lang talaga ang tinatanggap sa u.p....:lol: ....pero mukha naman silang mayayaman...ang ininterview ay as usual sina hontiveros....wala na atang makitang maganda sa gobyerno ng pilipinas......yup siya nga ...yung little insect na sabi ni miriam santiago... :lol::lol::lol:

Ewan ko nga kahit ako naguguluhan sa pinas. Hindi ko na tuloy ma isip kung ano ba talaga ang tama para sa Pinoy.

Bakit kaya kapag sa sigarilyo at inom eh walang tama at mali...


hehehehehehehehehe dyan ata magaling ang pinoy

ruralvillage
February 22nd, 2009, 11:09 PM
Govt to shoulder MRT 7 common station costs (http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2009/feb/23/yehey/business/20090223bus4.html)
By Darwin G. Amojelar, Reporter
Manila Times (http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2009/feb/23/yehey/business/20090223bus4.html)

IN A bid to meet President Gloria Arroyo’s directive to build a “Grand Central Terminal” for the three mass rail transits (MRT) next year, the government would have to shoulder all the expenses for the project since the MRT 7 investors have yet to get financial closure, an official of the Transport department said.

In a letter to the National Economic and Development Authority (NEDA), Guiling A. Mamondiong, undersecretary for rail transportation, said the government would build an elevated grand terminal that would be walking distance to commuters of all lines situated near the intersection of EDSA-North Avenue and West Avenue.

The plan is to construct a Metro Manila Integrated Rail Terminal (MMIRT) for the existing MRT 3, the ongoing LRT 1 North Extension and the proposed MRT 7.

Mamondiong said the proposed conceptual design and location is a product of lengthy discussions among the stakeholders, which include the Transport agency, the Light Rail Transit Authority, the Metro Rail Transit Authority, Universal LRT Corp. (ULC), the MRT 7 proponent and the Metropolitan Manila Development Authority. The design is compliant with the requirements of the Philippine Chamber of Commerce and Industry.

The Transport official said it would cost the government an estimated P317.7 million. Since the MRT 7 would still have to complete financial closure by December, the P460-million deductive cost to MRT 7 may be advanced by the government.

“Therefore, to implement MMIRT now, the total budgetary requirements is P777,698,717,” Mamondiong said.

According to the official, the additional cost to the government in building the MMIRT would now be lower compared with the scheme that involves dismantling two stations and then building the MMIRT later.

“The MMIRT would surely help to reduce travel time and generate more passengers for Line1, MRT 3 and MRT 7,” he said.

Mamondiong said the target completion of the project is May 2010 and full revenue operation on or about August 15, 2010.

The LRT 1 North Extension is also expected to be completed in May next year, which will cost around P6.32 billion.

The project involves the extension of LRT 1 to the North Avenue station of MRT 3, the construction of two new intermediate stations— Balintawak and Roosevelt—and a terminal station, the LRT 1 North Avenue station.

Once running, the LRT 1 North Extension is expected to serve about 800,000 to 1 million passengers.

The 20-kilometer MRT 7, meanwhile, would cost around $1.235 billion and will run from San Jose del Monte station in Bulacan to SM City station in North Avenue and would be linked to LRT Line 1 and MRT 3.

This line will begin its route from Tala, Caloocan City, passing through La Mesa dam reservoir, Fairview, Batasan, Diliman, Philcoa and end at EDSA-North Avenue.

It will serve an estimated two million commuters in the northern parts of Quezon City and Caloocan City.

Apart from the elevated transport system, ULC will also build a 17-kilometer, six-lane asphalt access road in Marilao, Bulacan that will lead to its depot in Tala.

renell
February 22nd, 2009, 11:57 PM
again the Bagong Barrio station doesn't seem to be mentioned..

ona
February 23rd, 2009, 09:00 AM
Govt to shoulder MRT 7 common station costs (http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2009/feb/23/yehey/business/20090223bus4.html)
By Darwin G. Amojelar, Reporter
Manila Times (http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2009/feb/23/yehey/business/20090223bus4.html)

IN A bid to meet President Gloria Arroyo’s directive to build a “Grand Central Terminal” for the three mass rail transits (MRT) next year, the government would have to shoulder all the expenses for the project since the MRT 7 investors have yet to get financial closure, an official of the Transport department said.

In a letter to the National Economic and Development Authority (NEDA), Guiling A. Mamondiong, undersecretary for rail transportation, said the government would build an elevated grand terminal that would be walking distance to commuters of all lines situated near the intersection of EDSA-North Avenue and West Avenue.

The plan is to construct a Metro Manila Integrated Rail Terminal (MMIRT) for the existing MRT 3, the ongoing LRT 1 North Extension and the proposed MRT 7.

Mamondiong said the proposed conceptual design and location is a product of lengthy discussions among the stakeholders, which include the Transport agency, the Light Rail Transit Authority, the Metro Rail Transit Authority, Universal LRT Corp. (ULC), the MRT 7 proponent and the Metropolitan Manila Development Authority. The design is compliant with the requirements of the Philippine Chamber of Commerce and Industry.

The Transport official said it would cost the government an estimated P317.7 million. Since the MRT 7 would still have to complete financial closure by December, the P460-million deductive cost to MRT 7 may be advanced by the government.

“Therefore, to implement MMIRT now, the total budgetary requirements is P777,698,717,” Mamondiong said.

According to the official, the additional cost to the government in building the MMIRT would now be lower compared with the scheme that involves dismantling two stations and then building the MMIRT later.

“The MMIRT would surely help to reduce travel time and generate more passengers for Line1, MRT 3 and MRT 7,” he said.

Mamondiong said the target completion of the project is May 2010 and full revenue operation on or about August 15, 2010.

The LRT 1 North Extension is also expected to be completed in May next year, which will cost around P6.32 billion.

The project involves the extension of LRT 1 to the North Avenue station of MRT 3, the construction of two new intermediate stations— Balintawak and Roosevelt—and a terminal station, the LRT 1 North Avenue station.

Once running, the LRT 1 North Extension is expected to serve about 800,000 to 1 million passengers.

The 20-kilometer MRT 7, meanwhile, would cost around $1.235 billion and will run from San Jose del Monte station in Bulacan to SM City station in North Avenue and would be linked to LRT Line 1 and MRT 3.

This line will begin its route from Tala, Caloocan City, passing through La Mesa dam reservoir, Fairview, Batasan, Diliman, Philcoa and end at EDSA-North Avenue.

It will serve an estimated two million commuters in the northern parts of Quezon City and Caloocan City.

Apart from the elevated transport system, ULC will also build a 17-kilometer, six-lane asphalt access road in Marilao, Bulacan that will lead to its depot in Tala.

Siguradong di mahulugan ng karayom yang Grand Central terminal kung Rush-hour! Pero masaya nanaman sina Mr. Sy at Ayala sa dadagsang milyong-milyong tao sa malls nila :nuts:

sushi___
February 23rd, 2009, 09:08 AM
Siguradong di mahulugan ng karayom yang Grand Central terminal kung Rush-hour! Pero masaya nanaman sina Mr. Sy at Ayala sa dadagsang milyong-milyong tao sa malls nila :nuts:

yung area na puro billboard sa tapat ng sm north ... sobrang lawak nun puwedeng robinson kay gokongwei hehehe

venntro
February 23rd, 2009, 09:14 AM
yung area na puro billboard sa tapat ng sm north ... sobrang lawak nun puwedeng robinson kay gokongwei hehehe

^^ Too many malls already in that area. Hopefully, that area be occupied by a high rise hotel or a supertall. :banana:

barrera_marquez
February 23rd, 2009, 10:18 AM
LRT-MRT Loop Update:

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leechtat
February 23rd, 2009, 10:19 AM
^^ i agree... too many malls.. a commercial office or hotel would best suite that area... or better-yet... a multi-level parking lot that can service the rail commuters.. ala sim-city..

le Reine
February 23rd, 2009, 11:42 AM
OMG! Thanks so much for the updates. Much appreciated! :):okay:

boom_box
February 23rd, 2009, 03:43 PM
^^ i agree... too many malls.. a commercial office or hotel would best suite that area... or better-yet... a multi-level parking lot that can service the rail commuters.. ala sim-city..

Plop and build style... hehe
sana nga ganun ang bansa natin mag lagay na mga infra...

ona
February 23rd, 2009, 03:45 PM
^^ Too many malls already in that area. Hopefully, that area be occupied by a high rise hotel or a supertall. :banana:

SM is about to finish their High-rise Grass Residences sa likod ng mall. TriNoma on the other hand said that they will develop adjacent lands for possible Hotels & Offices so I expect high-rises from them as well. In a few years the area near SM City North-TriNoma may become Metro manila's densest area similar to Tokyo's Ginza District.

boom_box
February 23rd, 2009, 04:07 PM
SM is about to finish their High-rise Grass Residences sa likod ng mall. TriNoma on the other hand said that they will develop adjacent lands for possible Hotels & Offices so I expect high-rises from them as well. In a few years the area near SM City North-TriNoma may become Metro manila's densest area similar to Tokyo's Ginza District.

sana meron ding aka Akihabara district sa Manila... hehe.. :lol:

kalbongdad
February 23rd, 2009, 04:16 PM
tagal pa nun....kailangan pang palayasin ni bf ang mga squatters dyan.....but as we are on our way to being a 1st world country....in 1 yr and 3 centuries....mangyayari din yan...:lol:

ona
February 23rd, 2009, 04:48 PM
^^ conservative estimate pa ba yan? :lol:

kalbongdad
February 23rd, 2009, 04:55 PM
oo very conservative na estimates yan....strict ang parents ko eh...:lol:

Blackraven
February 23rd, 2009, 05:02 PM
Doroteo Jose-Recto Link

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/87/Recto_link.jpg/600px-Recto_link.jpg

Yup eto nga ung walkway/inter-link between Line 1 and Line 2.

It's not far though (para sa akin) and it was a neat walk. Yun nga lang, may ilang bahagi ng walkway na amoy imburnal (galing ata sa me squatters area ung amoy na un :bash:).......and that's the biggest problem of it IMHO.:lol:

mwg12a
February 23rd, 2009, 08:26 PM
Yeah, the walkway looks really nice it's the squatter area houses that is ruining it.

I think these walk ways discourage people from crossing the street as well as enocuraging people to walk to the designated bus and jeepney stops instead of flagging them down anywhere along the whole stretch of an avenue or street.

adgaps
February 24th, 2009, 05:02 AM
di ba pininturahan ng MMDA yung mga squatter houses jan sa tabi ng walkway? kulay pink na yan sa baba eh...

ericlucky290
February 24th, 2009, 06:43 AM
huwag ng pinturahan but paalisin na and convert that place into a central terminal or a park or build houses.

winztotoy
February 24th, 2009, 06:48 AM
sana magkaroon ng sunog dyan... :crazy2:

kalbongdad
February 24th, 2009, 09:24 AM
aray ko....ang lupit mo naman......

renell
February 24th, 2009, 12:44 PM
hindi naman sana, may tao di diyan. takpan lang parang ginawa ni BF dun sa mga building sa tabi ng Marikina River bago mag SM. pag nakatago hindi napapansin ng mga dumadaan.

leechtat
February 24th, 2009, 01:36 PM
^^ uy, you are so mean naman.. why naman you want some sunog happening in the trains... :lol:

han742
February 24th, 2009, 02:04 PM
Doroteo Jose-Recto Link

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/87/Recto_link.jpg/600px-Recto_link.jpg

kahit na long walkway ito eh malaking ginhawa na rin ang naitutulong nito dahil sa hindi ka na dadaan sa ibaba na may mga squatter at maagawan ka pa ng daladalahan mo, at nakatiles naman kaya hindi na mahirap maglakad dito, at may bubong pero walang illegal vendors sa kahabaan nito, :)

han742
February 24th, 2009, 02:05 PM
sana magkaroon ng sunog dyan... :crazy2:

kakaibang request mo ha, :lol::lol::lol: pero ang alam ko malapit na rin jan yung manila city jail, tanaw na yan jan,

hecky12
February 24th, 2009, 04:57 PM
super longest light rail transit na ang LRT1 kung matatapos
lahat ng extension projects from north to south...
kung around 20 stations palang meron ngayon, paano kaya in
the future... 20 + 4 + 5-10??? = 29-34???
gaano kaya kahaba biyahe nun from cavite to sm north??? hehehe...

i think the oldest line will take an hour and a half.. kung hanggang dasma to north ave siguro mga 2hours. kasi yung sa mrt from q.ave to shaw e 10 mins. hindi pa rush hour to ha. kung q.ave to taft nasa 30 mins. ata yun.. kasi hindi ko na oorasan e.. nagtatime ako kaso pagbababa na ako nakakalimutan ko stop yung timer.

Talaga? Parang walang improvement na nangyayari sa Aguinaldo Highway eh...same old same old 8 kilometer parking lot every rush hour...:nuts:

That is why, Molino Boulevard and the Coastal Road Extention should be opened up to the public immediately. Unfortunately for the latter, may isang may-ari ng lupa dyan na ayaw mag-give way para sa Molino project dahil nagbabayad pa daw ng buwis sa Bacoor Municipio....kakapiranggot na lupa pero di pa rin nagagawan ng kalsada....possible bottleneck in the future yan.

actually nagkakaron na rin ng mga markings dito sa dasma ng roadwidening.. infact dito sa may corner aguinaldo hiway and congressional ave e may isang establishment ng nagiba yung printing press ata yun.. but im not sure kung yun yung dahilan pero kasi may activity rin na ginagawa dun sa overpass na kalapit nung giniba na yun.. iaadjust ata yung stairway ng overpass..

hecky12
February 24th, 2009, 05:04 PM
about sa fare ng line if finish na yung north... baka umabot na sa 30 ang maximum.

yung tungkol naman sa monumento picture.. dapat ang pinagadjust nila diyan e yung mga establishment na nakapalibot sa monumento ni bonifacio e..

Waldenstrom
February 25th, 2009, 02:06 AM
sana magkaroon ng sunog dyan... :crazy2:
kahit magkasunod dyan, magtatayo pa rin sila ng mga bahay dyan :)

cq40
February 25th, 2009, 02:31 AM
^^ Too many malls already in that area. Hopefully, that area be occupied by a high rise hotel or a supertall. :banana:

That lot with Billboards in that intersection is apparently and safe to say is now Owned by SM. Because it's now a parking lot with the exact same setup and structures as to that of SM's :)

Dreamtofly
February 25th, 2009, 11:07 AM
The construction of the LRT north extension went to fast. hope that they will operate the line as fast as they can....

evilgenius15
February 25th, 2009, 01:53 PM
marami nang tapos na poste sa lrt1 north extension...
ambilis talaga ng paggawa, anggaling, hehehe...
narinig ko sa kaibigan ko kanina na baka raw tanggalin yung
bonifacio monument sa monumento para sa lrt... totoo ba yun?

ionmarx
February 25th, 2009, 03:38 PM
Sana lang hindi nila na-construct yung mga pillars na yun at the expense of safety ha... Baka naman mala-Manila Film Center yan... Pero in any case masayang by next year makakapag-rail-trip na ko :)

han742
February 25th, 2009, 03:43 PM
marami nang tapos na poste sa lrt1 north extension...
ambilis talaga ng paggawa, anggaling, hehehe...
narinig ko sa kaibigan ko kanina na baka raw tanggalin yung
bonifacio monument sa monumento para sa lrt... totoo ba yun?

hindi na naman kailangang tanggalin pa ang monumento ni bonifacio para lang makadaan ang LRT-1 extension, may space pa naman sa side na paglilikuan towards monumento station,

han742
February 25th, 2009, 03:50 PM
Sana lang hindi nila na-construct yung mga pillars na yun at the expense of safety ha... Baka naman mala-Manila Film Center yan... Pero in any case masayang by next year makakapag-rail-trip na ko :)

sobrang dami ng bakal na ginamit, sobrang lalim ng foundation, sapat na oras namang napapatuyo ang semento, at mukhang hindi naman hilaw ang timpla ng mga semento -- hindi naman siguro ito matutulad sa film center na talagang minadali, kaya gumuho kaagad habang ginagawa pa lang,:cheers:

jefflacs
February 25th, 2009, 05:02 PM
Kaya lang naman medyo tumatagal ang isang project ay dahil sa pera, since funded entirely by the government ito, ayun may pera, saka sabay sabay naman yung pagpapatayo nung poste? kaya siguro mabilis na din

han742
February 25th, 2009, 05:14 PM
^^idagdag pa jan ang marami at bagong heavy equipments na gamit nila, at napansin ko very systematic ang gawaan,

Ecija
February 26th, 2009, 02:23 AM
hindi na naman kailangang tanggalin pa ang monumento ni bonifacio para lang makadaan ang LRT-1 extension, may space pa naman sa side na paglilikuan towards monumento station,

Sana magkaroon ng project ang MMDA para sa redevelopment ng Bonifacio monument para di naman siya masapawan ng LRT. talagang isa sa pinakaimportanteng landmark ang monumento lalo na sa nga viajero.:)

adgaps
February 26th, 2009, 03:19 AM
alam ko hanggang alas onse ng gabi tuloy ang paggawa nila... nung minsang mapasyal kami sa TriNoMa nakita namin gabi na may mga gumagawa pa rin... so nice...

venntro
February 26th, 2009, 03:59 AM
alam ko hanggang alas onse ng gabi tuloy ang paggawa nila... nung minsang mapasyal kami sa TriNoMa nakita namin gabi na may mga gumagawa pa rin... so nice...

^^ Looks like they are hell-bent on meeting the deadline for the loop to be finished before the end of GMA's term.

renell
February 26th, 2009, 04:02 AM
of course if it's finished in her term she gets to inagurate it.

Remember when Skyway got finished, even though it was mostly done in Ramos' term Erap got a lot of the good press for it, same goes for MRT3.

bustero
February 26th, 2009, 04:54 AM
looks good, hopefully they get to fix the mrt3 situation as well so that more capacity can be added.

ryanr
February 26th, 2009, 05:15 AM
of course if it's finished in her term she gets to inagurate it.

Remember when Skyway got finished, even though it was mostly done in Ramos' term Erap got a lot of the good press for it, same goes for MRT3.

yeh...erap even put his face on the mrt-3 tickets.:ohno:

venntro
February 26th, 2009, 05:20 AM
looks good, hopefully they get to fix the mrt3 situation as well so that more capacity can be added.

^^ MRT3 should really add another train coach since the system anyway is designed to accommodate 4 coaches.

bustero
February 26th, 2009, 06:05 AM
^^exactly, but they can't add the trains to expand capacity without fixing up with MRTC.

The experience with MRT3 is exactly why many in DOF are hesitant to move forward with BOT projects with regards to rail lines i.e. line 7. The projections are always good as per proponent but never quite reached then the gov't has to plug the losses or lack of profit to give the BOT provider a fixed return which is very high. This is the situation with mrt3 , with mrtc not bothering to reinvest because whether they put more money or not they will get the same fixed return anyway.


yeh...erap even put his face on the mrt-3 tickets.:ohno:

par for the course with all president!:lol: using this logic don't forget he started line 2 naman and GMA opened it!

han742
February 26th, 2009, 02:38 PM
updates... 26 feb 09
monumento pics
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/5417/img0025z.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


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between project 7 and sm north edsa
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project 7 towards muñoz
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muñoz towards royal
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may nasusunugan pa pala...
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/5068/img0046f.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/1424/img0047q.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

:banana::banana::banana:
(it was later reported that the fire occurred in Baesa, QC):ohno::ohno:

anakngpasig
February 26th, 2009, 02:53 PM
thanks
for the updates!

grabe ang bilis!!!

:runaway:

ryanr
February 26th, 2009, 04:50 PM
thanks, buddy...for keeping us updated.:okay:

D'Watcher
February 26th, 2009, 05:30 PM
ganyan dapat kabilis ang ibang infastructure projects ng gov't:banana:

richard24
February 26th, 2009, 05:48 PM
:cry: tears of joy.

habagatcentral1
February 26th, 2009, 05:50 PM
Hay sana ganyan din ang sa south extension...Cavite badly needs the LRT!!!!

absinthe_888
February 26th, 2009, 06:11 PM
^^ thanks for the updates...

panu kaya kung MTD ang nagawa ng project na to? :lol:

oboi
February 26th, 2009, 06:15 PM
^^Actually pareho lang kabilis ang paggawa ng north at saka south extension ng LRT-1. Actually it's all an illusion. Ang pinagkaiba nila yung north ay naka-fast forward kaso yung south naka slow-mo ang pag-play. :D :lol: :bash: :nocrook:

kaelthas18
February 26th, 2009, 06:44 PM
meron na bang napiling contractor para sa south? sana DMCI+First balfour na rin para the same design and sana pinagsabay na ung north and south gawin.. pusta, kaya matapos ito up to nxtyear kung sinimulan na last year sana ung lrt south..hayy.. pero anyways, :dance: i appreciate and hands down ako sa contractors ng north, with all the heavy equipments.. sana wla ng aberya pang dumating.. lets wait for lrt south nman..:soon::cheers1:

manila_eye
February 26th, 2009, 07:03 PM
baka tapos na sya by the end of the year. and early next year start na ng operation. ang bilis...

ryanr
February 26th, 2009, 08:38 PM
ganyan dapat kabilis ang ibang infastructure projects ng gov't:banana:

what people are forgetting is that it took forever for them even start closing the loop. Construction may be fast, but the process leading up to it is still ridiculously slow.

queetz@home
February 27th, 2009, 01:01 AM
^^ You think the LRT1 extension is slow? It was only planned at its current form last year after MRTC crapped out and that awful ENT was proposed and finally shot down by the wise PGMA herself. Contruction didn't come full swing until the fourth quarter of last year and I'm sure the guideways and rails will be done before the year end with just the stations and electrical systems, plus testing, to finish by April 2010.

Look at Evergreen Line in Greater Vancouver...its been planned since 1970, the prime minister finally announced federal contribution today, and even with financing is fully in place, we still won't see it running until 2014...and its 11 measley kilometers. By that time, you will be able to take trains in Metro Manila from Novaliches to Bacoor, possibly even Dasmarinas...

venntro
February 27th, 2009, 01:52 AM
Great pic updates. Thanks.

ryanr
February 27th, 2009, 03:07 AM
^^ You think the LRT1 extension is slow? It was only planned at its current form last year after MRTC crapped out and that awful ENT was proposed and finally shot down by the wise PGMA herself. Contruction didn't come full swing until the fourth quarter of last year and I'm sure the guideways and rails will be done before the year end with just the stations and electrical systems, plus testing, to finish by April 2010.

Look at Evergreen Line in Greater Vancouver...its been planned since 1970, the prime minister finally announced federal contribution today, and even with financing is fully in place, we still won't see it running until 2014...and its 11 measley kilometers. By that time, you will be able to take trains in Metro Manila from Novaliches to Bacoor, possibly even Dasmarinas...

I meant closing the loop in general...not just in its current form. Lines 4, 6, 7 and northrail are no different.
But yes, fair enough, it isn't just in the Philippines where government projects like this take forever. As you say, same thing happens in Canada...Indonesia (more so there, as they've been planning their first MRT line since the late 80s. And their monorail project got cancelled with the support pylons already built). Off the top of my head, it seems like Singapore, UAE and China are the only ones to get things done quickly.

chris_nigel
February 27th, 2009, 04:16 AM
updates... 26 feb 09
monumento pics



http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/2723/img0026c.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


:banana::banana::banana:
(it was later reported that the fire occurred in Baesa, QC):ohno::ohno:

grabe pwede pa lang makipag shake hands sa gumagawa pag dumadaan ka sa foot bridge..:lol::lol::lol::lol: d kaya safety ng dumadaan dyan eh at risk?:ohno::ohno::ohno:

kiretoce
February 27th, 2009, 04:28 AM
Post away folks! :colgate:

Link to Thread 10 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=96027&page=359) in the Archives. :okay:

venntro
February 27th, 2009, 04:37 AM
Hopefully it will be within Thread 11 that we see the operation of LRT-MRT Loop. :banana:

ryanr
February 27th, 2009, 04:49 AM
Kimber (or any mod) could you quote han's latest updates into this thread. Would be nice to start this thread that way.

kiretoce
February 27th, 2009, 05:26 AM
^^ Here are the last photo posts from the previous thread, Ryan.

update, update... 17 Feb 09

balintawak pics
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5862/imgbal2mon20ac5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8696/imgbal2mon21tn9.jpg

(http://imageshack.us)


http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/822/imgbal2mon22wq2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/2193/imgbal2mon23lx6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/930/imgbal2mon24am3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9398/imgbal2mon25qw1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


monumento area pics
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/3863/imgmon20zn0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/3985/imgmon21bm4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5519/imgmon22mg0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5623/imgmon23xs4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5826/imgmon24yf6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/522/imgmon25ps6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

:cheers::banana:

MORE UPDATES...
17 Feb 09

oliveros area (towards balintawak)...
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/7758/imgoliv2bal20ie3.jpg

(http://imageshack.us)


http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/4849/imgoliv2bal21ny7.jpg

(http://imageshack.us)


http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/2706/imgoliv2bal22om7.jpg

(http://imageshack.us)


http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6906/imgoliv2bal23gc6.jpg

(http://imageshack.us)


oliveros overpass towards royal...
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/4769/imgoliv2royal20vh3.jpg

(http://imageshack.us)


http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1349/imgoliv2royal21kz2.jpg

(http://imageshack.us)


http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6521/imgoliv2royal22zs1.jpg

(http://imageshack.us)


http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/8334/imgoliv2royal23ic3.jpg

(http://imageshack.us)


http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5611/imgoliv2royal24hb1.jpg

(http://imageshack.us)


this one really caught my attention... huh:lol::lol::lol:
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/4496/imgoliv2royal25vd6.jpg

(http://imageshack.us)


http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/9820/imgoliv2royal26kl0.jpg

(http://imageshack.us)


royal overpass towards oliveros...
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/5332/imgroyal2o20on8.jpg

(http://imageshack.us)


http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6613/imgroyal2o22xg2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/9950/imgroyal2o23gh9.jpg

(http://imageshack.us)


royal overpass towards muñoz
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1016/imgroyal2munae6.jpg

(http://imageshack.us)


http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5633/imgroyal2mun21ti1.jpg

(http://imageshack.us)


http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/2902/imgroyal2mun23ay6.jpg

(http://imageshack.us)


sm north edsa (future site of grand central terminal, EDSA), no activity so far here...
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/8372/imgsm01px8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::cheers::cheers:

updates... 26 feb 09
monumento pics
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/5417/img0025z.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/588/img0026z.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6549/img0026a.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/9738/img0026b.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/2723/img0026c.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/4499/img0027p.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4297/img0030a.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/8963/img0031.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/2878/img0033.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/397/img0035t.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


between project 7 and sm north edsa
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/3580/img0036.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8629/img0037o.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


project 7 towards muñoz
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/7426/img0038w.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/458/img0039.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/5827/img0041t.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


muñoz towards royal
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/9531/img0043d.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6187/img0044h.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8205/img0045h.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


may nasusunugan pa pala...
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/5068/img0046f.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/1424/img0047q.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

:banana::banana::banana:
(it was later reported that the fire occurred in Baesa, QC):ohno::ohno:

venntro
February 27th, 2009, 05:33 AM
^^ Thanks for compiling all those pic updates into this thread.

mwg12a
February 27th, 2009, 05:38 AM
So, what would happen to that monument and Munomento? Are they going to tear it down instead?

sushi___
February 27th, 2009, 06:30 AM
So, what would happen to that monument and Munomento? Are they going to tear it down instead?

di na tutumbahin yung monument... ililihis na nila (na post na earlier) hindi na 90 degree turn to connect it to LRT 1 na dadaanan ang monument

diz
February 27th, 2009, 06:31 AM
looks like they're installing the ugly piers after all! Oh well.

han742
February 27th, 2009, 06:46 AM
grabe pwede pa lang makipag shake hands sa gumagawa pag dumadaan ka sa foot bridge..:lol::lol::lol::lol: d kaya safety ng dumadaan dyan eh at risk?:ohno::ohno::ohno:
:lol::lol: hindi naman cguro, baka nga ung safety ng mga nagtatrabaho ang at risk, dahil baka manakawan ng mga materyales pag makalingat sila, :lol::lol:


So, what would happen to that monument and Monumento? Are they going to tear it down instead?

as someone here mentioned before hindi pinayagan ng national historical institute (NHI) na gibain o ipalipat sa Caloocan North ang monumentong ito ni Andres Bonifacio, gusto ba nilang "magrebolusyon" na naman ang mga alagad ni Bonifacio,:lol: may space pa naman sa kaliwang bahagi ng EDSA, magagawan nila yan ng paraan nang hindi ginagalaw ang monumentong ito,

^^maraming salamat po for acknowledging my pics, just my one way of updating our friends and kababayans outside the Metro and the Philippines,:cheers::) especially the forumers,:banana::banana:

venntro
February 27th, 2009, 06:56 AM
^^ It would have nice if that part of the link would be underground. Oh well.

han742
February 27th, 2009, 07:01 AM
^^ It would have nice if that part of the link would be underground. Oh well.

baka bahain naman ang LRT nyan,:lol: taon-taon na lang pag may kaunting ulan baha na sa bahaging ito ng monumento, although hindi naman ganun kalalim,:ohno:

venntro
February 27th, 2009, 07:06 AM
baka bahain naman ang LRT nyan,:lol: taon-taon na lang pag may kaunting ulan baha na sa bahaging ito ng monumento, although hindi naman ganun kalalim,:ohno:

^^ At least hindi na baha sa ground dahil nasa LRT na ang tubig. :lol::lol: But seriously, building an undergound station will of course take into consideration all the attendant problems including possible flooding and earthquakes etc..

han742
February 27th, 2009, 07:14 AM
^^ At least hindi na baha sa ground dahil nasa LRT na ang tubig. :lol::lol: But seriously, building an undergound station will of course take into consideration all the attendant problems including possible flooding and earthquakes etc..

ewan ko lang pero malabo nang mangyari un, lalo na hinahabol ang deadline - sa inauguration, :lol:

venntro
February 27th, 2009, 07:26 AM
ewan ko lang pero malabo nang mangyari un, lalo na hinahabol ang deadline - sa inauguration, :lol:

^^ That's why it's just wishful thinking at this point in time. :)

adgaps
February 27th, 2009, 08:43 AM
ok na yung ganyan sa ngayon...

ska na yung iunderground railways, pag mas malaki na ang budget ng gobyerno...

RonnieR
February 27th, 2009, 09:58 AM
looks like they're installing the ugly piers after all! Oh well.

ugly piers?

kiretoce
February 27th, 2009, 10:01 AM
^^ I think diz meant to say pylons instead of piers.

bustero
February 27th, 2009, 10:27 AM
mods, just a question, why can't we just have long threads. I noticed the dubai threads 15,000 iyung post count. The only reason I ask this is that it's hard to monitor past posts in old threads, nawawala na!

RonnieR
February 27th, 2009, 11:50 AM
^^ I think diz meant to say pylons instead of piers.

ah okay :)

lochinvar
February 27th, 2009, 01:08 PM
Wow! Developments are coming in all sizes and shapes. The one holding White Castle has lots of excellent development too!

kennethologist
February 27th, 2009, 02:27 PM
^^ Here are the last photo posts from the previous thread, Ryan.

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/4496/imgoliv2royal25vd6.jpg



The LRT1 Extension looks impressive!! :eek2:

han742
February 27th, 2009, 02:34 PM
The LRT1 Extension looks impressive!! :eek2:

...with beautiful humps and curves,:lol::lol::lol:

absinthe_888
February 27th, 2009, 05:22 PM
sorry for this never ending question....what is the status ba talaga ng bagong barrio station?

habagatcentral1
February 27th, 2009, 06:33 PM
This was EDSA yesterday (27 February 2008, Friday and payday) and the MRT-3 train makes its way towards Guadalupe Station in Makati City.

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/1699/edsa01.jpg (http://img522.imageshack.us/my.php?image=edsa01.jpg)
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/edsa01.jpg/1/w800.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img522/edsa01.jpg/1/)

leechtat
February 27th, 2009, 07:13 PM
wow.. thanks for compiling those updates,... construction is surely going fast... i can't wait to ride this line... property values in the area will surely rise... congrats to early investors...

kiretoce
February 27th, 2009, 09:03 PM
mods, just a question, why can't we just have long threads. I noticed the dubai threads 15,000 iyung post count. The only reason I ask this is that it's hard to monitor past posts in old threads, nawawala na!

The aim is to keep threads running in "real time" (if applicable). Past posts are still there in the Archives and isn't going anywhere.

kaelthas18
February 28th, 2009, 01:45 AM
looks like they're installing the ugly piers after all! Oh well.

much better na nga yan kesa sa mga previous lrt/mrt piers eh.. tingan mo ung piers ng mrt sa may aurora blvd underpass and shaw underpass.. kapangit.. ang papayat pa.. eh ayan halatang purong semento..

barrera_marquez
February 28th, 2009, 02:22 AM
sorry for this never ending question....what is the status ba talaga ng bagong barrio station?

Tuloy na talaga siya...

Jarvijarv
February 28th, 2009, 04:23 AM
The LRT1 Extension looks impressive!! :eek2:

Mmmmmm :nuts:....isn't this RR from Wowowee?

Jarvijarv
February 28th, 2009, 04:27 AM
haha..duh :hammer:, it has her name on the billboard....RR Enriquez

habagatcentral1
February 28th, 2009, 06:16 AM
MRT south bound yesterday afternoon

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/1/photos/347/600x600/33/QuiapoByernes35.jpg?et=gqVkBl78ZDRchrSADrWeIw&nmid=213374811

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/1/photos/347/600x600/34/QuiapoByernes36.jpg?et=8AUtu%2C7wRcUIlh3Wkmxv3g&nmid=213374811

mwg12a
February 28th, 2009, 06:56 AM
sneaky sneaky , ya Sleek!! LOL

I think the first picture above shows that there was that one gentleman who noticed you taking a picture, another passenger... He was looking right at it. Good job though he he

diz
February 28th, 2009, 09:24 AM
Didn't they put LCDs in the MRT? Where are they?

kalbongdad
February 28th, 2009, 09:30 AM
meron pa rin naman diba? nakasakay ako ng mrt kahapon pero hindi ko napansin kung meron pa....kung tinanggal baka tapos na kontrata dahil puro lang naman patalastas ang gamit nun....hindi ata effective...

r93k401
February 28th, 2009, 09:59 AM
very impressive construction development for the mrt extension project!!! thanks for the pics. comparing with the slex and skyway construction which is way too sloooowwww.... napakalayo pag ikinumpara. hopefully eh tuloy-tuloy lang ang gawa dun sa mrt-lrt link/extension and make it working and functional before 2010?

Dreamtofly
February 28th, 2009, 10:14 AM
This was EDSA yesterday (27 February 2008, Friday and payday) and the MRT-3 train makes its way towards Guadalupe Station in Makati City.

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/1699/edsa01.jpg (http://img522.imageshack.us/my.php?image=edsa01.jpg)
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/edsa01.jpg/1/w800.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img522/edsa01.jpg/1/)

Edsa look so ugly. It become same as an wet market place. the billboard is an ayesoar. they should stop and remove it.

michael677
February 28th, 2009, 12:17 PM
^^ It would have nice if that part of the link would be underground. Oh well.

i disagree, i think it would be cooler if above-ground .. bangkok did it nicely in their victory monument, similar to our monumento :cheers:

Look here:
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Sky Harbor
February 28th, 2009, 12:46 PM
^^ What sets apart that from Monumento is the width of the road. The roundabout surrounding Bangkok's Victory Monument appears wider than the width of the roundabout surrounding Monumento.

manchowyin
February 28th, 2009, 12:48 PM
MRT south bound yesterday afternoon

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/1/photos/347/600x600/33/QuiapoByernes35.jpg?et=gqVkBl78ZDRchrSADrWeIw&nmid=213374811

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/1/photos/347/600x600/34/QuiapoByernes36.jpg?et=8AUtu%2C7wRcUIlh3Wkmxv3g&nmid=213374811

Nice shots!

chris_nigel
March 1st, 2009, 10:21 AM
matutuloy pa ba yung lrt2 east extension?

diz
March 1st, 2009, 10:25 AM
Bangkok's Skytrain doesn't have overhead wires.

han742
March 1st, 2009, 12:53 PM
from monumento to (about) gen. malvar of bagong barrio, metal frames were already erected...

kennethologist
March 1st, 2009, 05:40 PM
Edsa look so ugly. It become same as an wet market place. the billboard is an ayesoar. they should stop and remove it.

post "milenyo"... edsa looked boring without the billboards... seriously... it's the billboards at edsa that makes the road very colorful and alive... think of it as a very long version of times square. :D

...at xempre OT nanaman post ko. :lol::bash:

renell
March 2nd, 2009, 01:36 AM
Bangkok's Skytrain doesn't have overhead wires.

plus they're in the sky. MRT3 prefers to keep its feet on the ground most of the time, mocking all the cars stuck in traffic as to how fast it can go.

maybe it's time they regulated the advertisment billboards on EDSA, keep it to a certain number and size. whilst everything in Manila seems to get smaller relative from my childhood days, the billboards are going on the opposite direction.

cq40
March 2nd, 2009, 01:44 AM
plus they're in the sky. MRT3 prefers to keep its feet on the ground most of the time, mocking all the cars stuck in traffic as to how fast it can go.

maybe it's time they regulated the advertisment billboards on EDSA, keep it to a certain number and size. whilst everything in Manila seems to get smaller relative from my childhood days, the billboards are going on the opposite direction.

Just so you know, before the "milenyo" typhoon, billboards we're massive, like everywhere and in it's widest, after that rules are now created and/or strictly enforced, so they're actually limited now.
:)

venntro
March 2nd, 2009, 04:42 AM
Just so you know, before the "milenyo" typhoon, billboards we're massive, like everywhere and in it's widest, after that rules are now created and/or strictly enforced, so they're actually limited now.
:)

^^ The billboards are actually back with a vengeance. They are as big and as numerous as ever.

RonnieR
March 2nd, 2009, 05:33 AM
Just so you know, before the "milenyo" typhoon, billboards we're massive, like everywhere and in it's widest, after that rules are now created and/or strictly enforced, so they're actually limited now.
:)

I don't see the reduction....there are still a lot of billboards, distracting the motorists. I am distracted with these billboards and put risks on the thousands of motorists. They are ugly...except the electronic billboards.

post "milenyo"... edsa looked boring without the billboards... seriously... it's the billboards at edsa that makes the road very colorful and alive... think of it as a very long version of times square. :D

...at xempre OT nanaman post ko. :lol::bash:

Sorry but I don't see these billboards as colorful. They are eyesores and distract the driver of the vehicle. EDSA is ugly because of these billboards.

absinthe_888
March 2nd, 2009, 06:01 AM
^^ The billboards are actually back with a vengeance. They are as big and as numerous as ever.

have you guys seen the Coca Cola billboard in Guadalupe Northbound? It's massive!

venntro
March 2nd, 2009, 06:06 AM
have you guys seen the Coca Cola billboard in Guadalupe Northbound? It's massive!

^^ That's right. That's why there was no reduction at all on the billboards in the metro. Same as ever.

kiretoce
March 2nd, 2009, 07:49 AM
Guys, we have a Billboards (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=179829) thread; I suggest you bring this discussion there.

han742
March 2nd, 2009, 08:02 AM
^^that is when our mod cuts in, :)

lancetrn
March 2nd, 2009, 08:56 AM
Council hits stalling of rail loop project

By Roderick T. dela Cruz

The National Competitiveness Council has criticized a Metro Manila mayor for showing an example of how to derail a key infrastructure project.

Short of naming the official, Ambassador Cesar Bautista, co-chairman of the council, said the executive refused to issue a construction permit to the 5.8-kilometer linkup of Metro Rail Transit and Light Rail Transit Lines unless a station was added for the benefit of a barangay where he enjoyed patronage.

Residents of Caloocan City, instigated by barangay officials, staged a rally along Edsa late last year, calling for an intermediate LRT stop in Bagong Barrio, as part of the P6.4-billion LRT North Extension project.

The interconnection will complete the mass transport loop by extending LRT Line 1 from Monumento, Caloocan to North Avenue in Quezon City.

Caloocan Mayor Enrico Echiverri issued a press statement last year, calling on barangay officials, businessmen and residents to petition the government to build the Bagong Barrio station, which he said would serve 500,000 daily commuters.

“We need a station in Caloocan and we need it on Edsa corner Malvar Street in Bagong Barrio,” Echiverri said in the statement.

The competitiveness council expressed shock over the demand, which it reckoned would cost the government an added P800 million, representing 20 percent of the project cost.

”He claims that he is imposing this demand to benefit the poor people in the barangay. Either the authorities give him the additional station or this important project will be delayed and will not be operational even in 2010,” Bautista fumed.

”How can a mayor hold the nation and Metro Manila hostage to ransom? The public is certainly behind the President and the Light Rail Transit Authority on this one.”

The competitiveness council is identifying model local government units that contribute to national and economic development.

Bautista cited Bohol for using eco-tourism in transforming its economy from one of the poorest provinces to one of the most progessive today, growing by at least 7 percent annually.
http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=police1_mar2_2009

sushi___
March 2nd, 2009, 09:15 AM
Council hits stalling of rail loop project

By Roderick T. dela Cruz

The National Competitiveness Council has criticized a Metro Manila mayor for showing an example of how to derail a key infrastructure project.

Short of naming the official, Ambassador Cesar Bautista, co-chairman of the council, said the executive refused to issue a construction permit to the 5.8-kilometer linkup of Metro Rail Transit and Light Rail Transit Lines unless a station was added for the benefit of a barangay where he enjoyed patronage.

Residents of Caloocan City, instigated by barangay officials, staged a rally along Edsa late last year, calling for an intermediate LRT stop in Bagong Barrio, as part of the P6.4-billion LRT North Extension project.

The interconnection will complete the mass transport loop by extending LRT Line 1 from Monumento, Caloocan to North Avenue in Quezon City.

Caloocan Mayor Enrico Echiverri issued a press statement last year, calling on barangay officials, businessmen and residents to petition the government to build the Bagong Barrio station, which he said would serve 500,000 daily commuters.

“We need a station in Caloocan and we need it on Edsa corner Malvar Street in Bagong Barrio,” Echiverri said in the statement.

The competitiveness council expressed shock over the demand, which it reckoned would cost the government an added P800 million, representing 20 percent of the project cost.

”He claims that he is imposing this demand to benefit the poor people in the barangay. Either the authorities give him the additional station or this important project will be delayed and will not be operational even in 2010,” Bautista fumed.

”How can a mayor hold the nation and Metro Manila hostage to ransom? The public is certainly behind the President and the Light Rail Transit Authority on this one.”

The competitiveness council is identifying model local government units that contribute to national and economic development.

Bautista cited Bohol for using eco-tourism in transforming its economy from one of the poorest provinces to one of the most progessive today, growing by at least 7 percent annually.
http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=police1_mar2_2009


diba resolved na ito? at tuloy na ang station ng BB?

dancethingy
March 2nd, 2009, 12:40 PM
^^ Very much resolved, but people love to recycle old news, especially bad ones.

han742
March 2nd, 2009, 04:05 PM
updates... 02 mar '09
balintawak area...
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5800/img0029y.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0029y.jpg)


http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/5865/img0024e.jpg (http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0024e.jpg)


http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/6827/img0025o.jpg (http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0025o.jpg)


http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/2097/img0026o.jpg (http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0026o.jpg)


http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/4023/img0027.jpg (http://img61.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0027.jpg)


edsa-cloverleaf interchange...
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/9914/img0030z.jpg (http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0030z.jpg)


gen. malvar, bagong barrio footbridge towards monumento...
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/8963/img0031.jpg (http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0031.jpg)


http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8691/img0032u.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0032u.jpg)


http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/4741/img0033y.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0033y.jpg)


gen. malvar, BB towards toyota bagong barrio...
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/6533/img0034q.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0034q.jpg)


http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/3521/img0035o.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0035o.jpg)


:banana::banana::banana:

nico216
March 2nd, 2009, 04:05 PM
Edsa look so ugly. It become same as an wet market place. the billboard is an ayesoar. they should stop and remove it.

wow you speak good england.

kalbongdad
March 2nd, 2009, 04:32 PM
no need to be nasty....we are flips it is not a requirement to speak good english....it is an advantage though.....anyway....nice shots bilis ng work dyan...have you noticed lately that the work area is actually fenced off....mmda ang nagpauso nyan....dati kasi trabahong pawardi wardi...kaya lalo buhol ang trapik....whereas now....nabawasan ang trapik dahil sa KAAYUSAN....bf for president...:lol::lol::lol:

manila_eye
March 2nd, 2009, 06:02 PM
wow you speak good england.

LOL!!!

nice shots... more updates please.

lochinvar
March 2nd, 2009, 07:37 PM
Wow! May nakapatong na sa poste. Susunod niyan ay riles na ang ilalagay. :banana:

jvl
March 2nd, 2009, 07:58 PM
Is schedule on target? Nice job!

no need to be nasty....we are flips it is not a requirement to speak good english....it is an advantage though.....anyway....nice shots bilis ng work dyan...have you noticed lately that the work area is actually fenced off....mmda ang nagpauso nyan....dati kasi trabahong pawardi wardi...kaya lalo buhol ang trapik....whereas now....nabawasan ang trapik dahil sa KAAYUSAN....bf for president...:lol::lol::lol:

OT: Not all were cooperating with MMDA, but still they were able to implement more than 50% of their projects (with positive results).

IndioBravo
March 3rd, 2009, 02:21 AM
For me we should make Bayani MMDA chief for life!

venntro
March 3rd, 2009, 02:21 AM
Wow! May nakapatong na sa poste. Susunod niyan ay riles na ang ilalagay. :banana:

^^ That's great news. :banana:

c0kelitr0
March 3rd, 2009, 04:32 AM
my gad! di ako makapaniwalang last year lang talaga to actually sinimulan! ang laki na nagawa nila! juice ko, kaya naman pala talaga ng gobyerno na mabilisan ang trabaho pag talagang gugustuhin! :banana:

crappypants
March 3rd, 2009, 04:37 AM
For me we should make Bayani MMDA chief for life!

why limit his political will and capability in Metro Manila? the whole nation can use it.

ryanr
March 3rd, 2009, 04:55 AM
updates... 02 mar '09



http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/5865/img0024e.jpg (http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0024e.jpg)


http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/6827/img0025o.jpg (http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0025o.jpg)



EDSA - Trinoma - SM City area
February 03, 2009


http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q128/shyaman_king/HOLIDAY%202009%20-%20FEB%2003/DSC_0120a.jpg

Is it just me or is the LRT1 extension taller than MRT3?

han742
March 3rd, 2009, 06:18 AM
Is it just me or is the LRT1 extension taller than MRT3?

no, it isn't you but rather the EDSA...
portion along oliveros and royal...
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/4858/oliv2royal22zs1.jpg (http://img3.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oliv2royal22zs1.jpg)

:banana::banana:

idunno but upon approaching edsa-cloverleaf interchange, they made it higher than the regular height, but approaching monumento it was returned to the same height as the LRT-1 proper,:)

RonnieR
March 3rd, 2009, 06:20 AM
no, it isn't you but rather the EDSA...
portion along oliveros and royal...
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/4858/oliv2royal22zs1.jpg (http://img3.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oliv2royal22zs1.jpg)

:banana::banana:

idunno but upon approaching edsa-cloverleaf interchange, they made it higher than the regular height, but approaching monumento it was returned to the same height as the LRT-1 proper,:)

ah....so back to the same height pala approaching monumento.. mababa

han742
March 3rd, 2009, 06:39 AM
ah....so back to the same height pala approaching monumento.. mababa

yup, very flexible ang change height nila,
monumento area...
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1185/img0025zk.jpg (http://img15.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0025zk.jpg):banana::banana:

kratos1211
March 3rd, 2009, 07:27 AM
^^ The LRT track is more or less level, the different height of the post gives us the illusion that the train track goes up and down when it is EDSA road that is going up and down.

updates... 02 mar '09
balintawak area...
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5800/img0029y.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0029y.jpg)

venntro
March 3rd, 2009, 08:07 AM
^^ The LRT track is more or less level, the different height of the post gives us the illusion that the train track goes up and down when it is EDSA road that is going up and down.

^^ Looks like it.

Dreamtofly
March 3rd, 2009, 08:25 AM
wow you speak good england.

Ursäkta mig Förlåt, jävla dum

crappypants
March 3rd, 2009, 08:43 AM
that's good it'll be like the mrt, a roller coaster.

kiretoce
March 3rd, 2009, 08:55 AM
^^ They should throw in some cobra rolls, corkscrews, death dives, and uphill accelerators too while they're at it. :okay: ( :lol: )

venntro
March 3rd, 2009, 08:58 AM
^^ They should throw in some cobra rolls, corkscrews, death dives, and uphill accelerators too while they're at it. :okay: ( :lol: )

^^ Throw in some seatbelts as well.

kiretoce
March 3rd, 2009, 09:00 AM
^^ Nah....that's too tame of a ride, they just need to hang on to handrails for dear life while the train is in motion. :rofl:

adgaps
March 3rd, 2009, 09:13 AM
nice updates... sandaling panahon pa at magkakaroon na ng mga riles jan...

Ursäkta mig Förlåt, jävla dum

OT: ano'ng language yan? parang gusto ko matutunan yan... hehe...

kiretoce
March 3rd, 2009, 09:14 AM
^^ Swedish.

crappypants
March 3rd, 2009, 09:16 AM
^^ They should throw in some cobra rolls, corkscrews, death dives, and uphill accelerators too while they're at it. :okay: ( :lol: )

:lol: for real you should ride the mrt the only thing missing is the loop and you'd feel like you're on a theme park.