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sushi___

March 24th, 2009, 04:14 AM

Moody’s: Gov’t stimulus plan on right track

By Ronnel Domingo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 01:14:00 03/24/2009

Filed Under: Economy and Business and Finance

MANILA, Philippines — The government appears to be on the right track, following its decision to spend more on infrastructure to stimulate the economy rather than focusing on tax breaks and basic services, a unit of credit rating agency Moody’s Corp. said.

Moody’s Economy.com’s report on various stimulus packages throughout the Asia-Pacific said the government’s best bets would be projects on building roads, railroads and power transmission grids.

According to the paper, authored by Australia-based economist Tine Olsen, such projects may offer higher returns considering that there is a lack of these crucial facilities in the country relative to others.

Olsen said infrastructure spending, cash payouts and tax cuts dominated stimulus packages in the region.

Infrastructure spending is adequate for most emerging economies because this may create greater growth in the long run, compared to shopping vouchers for consumers, which governments of more advanced economies prefer, she added.

Citing data on World Development indicators, Olsen said infrastructure projects would benefit the Philippines more from road and rail construction than Japan, India, South Korea and Vietnam — all of which have more of these than the Philippines.

Another area with potential is the development of larger and more reliable electric systems that facilitate higher long-run growth.

WD indicators show that the Philippines, India and Hong Kong have some of the highest levels of power systems loss or the amount of electricity lost in distribution.

“The Asia-Pacific region is in a sense luckier than Europe, since it is still emerging and investment in infrastructure will not only stimulate the economy now, but also increase long-run growth,” Olsen said.

“On the other hand, export-oriented Asian economies also have to respond to a sharper downturn in the current business cycle.”

According to the National Economic and Development Authority (NEDA), the government is embarking on the first wave of pump-priming this year with P160 billion worth of small infrastructure projects.

The NEDA said the amount would be spent in some 3,000 “shovel-ready” projects in rural areas such as farm-to-market roads, irrigation and other fast-moving, community-based initiatives.

The amount is also part of a P330-billion package that is meant to fund the government’s economic resiliency program aimed at sustaining the economy’s growth despite the worsening effects of a global financial crisis.

The second wave of pump-priming through public construction will start in 2010. This involves large projects such as circumferential roads, toll ways and light rail lines.

Stimulus second wave by 2010? im hoping based on the last paragraph

light rail lines -- LRT South Extension? MRT 7?

circumferential roads -- C6?

toll ways -- North Luzon East Expressway, North Luzon Expressway, South Luzon Expressway Extension

venntro

March 24th, 2009, 04:37 AM

Great pic updates! Thanks han742. :)

Colonel Burger

March 24th, 2009, 04:54 AM

Question.... I regularly ride the MRT2 from cubao to santolan.... Im wondering why the train is so slow? it travels at a speed of only around 40kph. mrt3 goes up to 60. LRT 1 somtimes goes 80.

johnmizer

March 24th, 2009, 05:40 AM

maybe because curvy yung track

chris_nigel

March 24th, 2009, 08:48 AM

oo nga going to santolan from cubao station mabagal ang takbo lagi na lang ganun d naman pa curve den while approaching anonas station saka bblisan ano ba reason nila?

han742

March 24th, 2009, 09:39 AM

Nakakatuwa naman... Akala ko line 3 ay dedicated sa EDSA at ang line 1 ay Taft at Rizal Avenues lang. Thanks a lot sa napakgandang informasyon kaibigan:).

actually it was the plan before, MRT-3 should be the one to connect the line up to Monumento but MRT-3 took so long to do it, maybe it is partially owned by foreign investor (and funding was a problem?), so the gov't decided to extend LRT-1 instead,:)

^^ Han742, Thanks sa update :)....kakainis talaga yung mga wires in picture no. 3....

Great pic updates! Thanks han742. :)

It's nice to see the progression, a confirmation that something is indeed being done. Keep it up! Thanks for taking the time to capture them for us. :okay:

thanks as well, for appreciating my captured photos. Everyday I pass this area of EDSA and I'm tempted to take pictures especially if there are developments in their construction. I'd also like to document how construction can be done swiftly without politicians intervening (just out of their personal motives).:) (although one has attempted to intervene, before I forget) :)

oo nga going to santolan from cubao station mabagal ang takbo lagi na lang ganun d naman pa curve den while approaching anonas station saka bblisan ano ba reason nila?

baka kasi walang bakod at baka maderail ang tren, :lol: ang lapad pa naman nito,

winztotoy

March 24th, 2009, 10:32 AM

Question.... I regularly ride the MRT2 from cubao to santolan.... Im wondering why the train is so slow? it travels at a speed of only around 40kph. mrt3 goes up to 60. LRT 1 somtimes goes 80.

solo kasi nya ang riles so hindi na kailangang makipag-karera tulad ng mga bus sa edsa at commonwealth... maganda rin to para sa mga estudyante ng u-belt para may kaunti pa silang time na magreview sa tren bago pumasok sa school at kumuha ng exam :lol:

jefflacs

March 24th, 2009, 10:45 AM

Baka mahina daloy ng kuryente? not sure pero napansin ko every station may malapit na "generator" or building na alam mo LRT-2 ang may-ari xD

jvl

March 24th, 2009, 10:49 AM

Question.... I regularly ride the MRT2 from cubao to santolan.... Im wondering why the train is so slow? it travels at a speed of only around 40kph. mrt3 goes up to 60. LRT 1 somtimes goes 80.

Are these speed figures you mentioned verifiable? Is 40kph only from Cubao to Santolan segment? There could be an explanation for cautious passage in that segment.

kalbongdad

March 24th, 2009, 11:12 AM

Are these speed figures you mentioned verifiable? Is 40kph only from Cubao to Santolan segment? There could be an explanation for cautious passage in that segment.

actually mas faster pa dyan.....depende kasi yun sa trip sked na pinatutupad ng lrt......kung ilang minutes in between....

RonnieR

March 24th, 2009, 12:36 PM

thanks as well, for appreciating my photos. Everyday I pass this area of EDSA and I'm tempted to take pictures especially if there are developments in their construction. I'd also like to document how construction can be done swiftly without politicians intervening (just out of their personal motives).:) (although one has attempted to intervene, before I forget) :)

:applause::cheers1:

AGain ,thanks for giving us update on the progress. It's only here in SSC that we get this kind of information.

RonnieR

March 24th, 2009, 12:41 PM

Question.... I regularly ride the MRT2 from cubao to santolan.... Im wondering why the train is so slow? it travels at a speed of only around 40kph. mrt3 goes up to 60. LRT 1 somtimes goes 80.

LRT's official statement: ..."LRT 2 trains, from Santolan to Recto Avenue, Manila, can travel at the speed of 40 to 80 kilometers per hour...",

han742

March 24th, 2009, 03:46 PM

nagtataka lang ako kung bakit sa area ng balintawak at bagong barrio sa gen. malvar eh maliit pa rin yung nakapatong sa ibabaw ng mga pylons, hindi ba dapat pag may station eh mas malapad ang mga ito para may space hanggang sa bangketa, ano kaya design ng station nila, hmmm...

evilgenius15

March 24th, 2009, 04:45 PM

Baka mahina daloy ng kuryente? not sure pero napansin ko every station may malapit na "generator" or building na alam mo LRT-2 ang may-ari xD

Question.... I regularly ride the MRT2 from cubao to santolan.... Im wondering why the train is so slow? it travels at a speed of only around 40kph. mrt3 goes up to 60. LRT 1 somtimes goes 80.

baka dahil paiba-iba kasi yung elevation...
o di kaya maraming railroad switch kaya ganun...

ionmarx

March 24th, 2009, 05:58 PM

Weird, hindi naman makurbada ang Cubao-Santolan ng LRT2. And yet mabagal nga ang takbo nila. Ano nga kaya ang "safety issue" kung kaya ganun kabagal? O dahil sa kailangang evenly distributed yung mga tren kaya mabagal?

Re: LRT1-North stations, lumalabas magrereclaim sila ng additional space along EDSA para may lugar yung mga escalators/stairways nila di ba. So papicture-picture na lang kapag me mga demolitions na ha :D

johnmizer

March 25th, 2009, 03:36 AM

any1 here who had heard the screeching sound lf lrt2? sakit sa tenga! and to make matter worse, every 4am, they do a test run with their trains, sarap tingnan yung train ng ganung oras, pero an assault sa tenga kapag na pureza - legrada. sa mrt at lrt ba may screechign sound di ba sila?

evilgenius15

March 25th, 2009, 03:44 AM

sushi___

March 25th, 2009, 04:58 AM

Project Status (as of 24 March 2009)
1. Package A1, A2 & B - DMFB Joint Venture

Actual Accomplishment
Package A1 28.26%
Package A2 26.08%
Package B 8.18%

2. Package C (Revised)

* Design and interface activities

3. EMS-1: Signaling.

* Direct Contracting Stage

4. EMS-2: Telecommunications

* Design and interface activities

5. EMS-3: AFC

* Design and interface activities

6. EMS-4: Track Works

* Design and interface activities

-----

mas napapadalas ng update ang LRTA website sa North Extension :D

hecky12

March 25th, 2009, 05:23 AM

completely lost with the updates.. tagal ko nawala sa sirkulasyon.. tinatamad na ko mag view ng pages...haay.. but at least doing good so far ang north ext.

adgaps

March 25th, 2009, 10:01 AM

tnx poh sa update sir han742! maganda yung ganyang nakikita natin sa pics yung construction...

mejo may screeching din bet. abad santos and blumentritt stations sa LRT1, pero mahina lang naman... ska tumatagilid kasi yung tren dun... kung bakit eh hindi ko alam...

Parang kwento lang iyan ni Propesor Balisungsung: Mayroong apong propesyonal si bandalismo.

offtopic: wow! kilala mo rin pala si Prop. Balisungsong... hehe... prof namin yung sumulat ng story ni Prop. Balisungsong...

Sky Harbor

March 25th, 2009, 10:29 AM

I wonder what the new LRT-1 North Extension stations will look like. I wish they're fully air-conditioned with platform screen doors. :D

absinthe_888

March 25th, 2009, 10:48 AM

I wonder what the new LRT-1 North Extension stations will look like. I wish they're fully air-conditioned with platform screen doors. :D

parang katulad sa HK:lol:

ionmarx

March 25th, 2009, 05:05 PM

I wonder what the new LRT-1 North Extension stations will look like. I wish they're fully air-conditioned with platform screen doors. :D

Try to imagine the three new stations with the same 80s look of LRT1's existing stations :nuts:

kaelthas18

March 25th, 2009, 05:48 PM

Try to imagine the three new stations with the same 80s look of LRT1's existing stations :nuts:

katulad sana ung kulay LRT 1 Edsa station, simple lang... ung doroteo jose wlang ka-porma porma lalo na ung paakyat.. wlang ka design-design.. panira ung kulay eh..sky blue( ganun ba kulay ng lrt1?) mas hierarchy kasi ung blue kesa sa bright yellow eh. ung lrt 2 aus un kasi majority of the line is color purple.. ung MRT slight din.. ksi signage nya kulay blue..

Sky Harbor

March 25th, 2009, 05:56 PM

Try to imagine the three new stations with the same 80s look of LRT1's existing stations :nuts:

Two words: Heck and NO. We're too good now for 1984 LRT architecture.

ionmarx

March 25th, 2009, 06:11 PM

^^ Buti na nga lang kahit pano akma na rin sa LRT2 yung mga parapet walls nila eh. Hindi na yung concrete slabs design na animo bigla na lang bibigay at makakasira ng windshield ng sasakyan sa kalye sa baba :lol:

kalbongdad

March 25th, 2009, 07:38 PM

evilgenius15

March 25th, 2009, 07:42 PM

Try to imagine the three new stations with the same 80s look of LRT1's existing stations :nuts:

wow... siguro wala pa isang taon may bad incident na agad na mangyayari
kapag ganyan :lol::lol::lol:

walrus357

March 25th, 2009, 08:10 PM

tnx poh sa update sir han742! maganda yung ganyang nakikita natin sa pics yung construction...

mejo may screeching din bet. abad santos and blumentritt stations sa LRT1, pero mahina lang naman... ska tumatagilid kasi yung tren dun... kung bakit eh hindi ko alam...

yung pag tagilid ng tren sa lugar na yon ay normal lang kasi nga sharp curves yung mga nasabing lugar. hindi level ang mga tracks, mas mataas sa outer side. kung tawagin sa mga highways ay super elevation. hindi ko alam tawag sa mga railways. kaya nila gingawa yun ay para maiwasan ung epekto ng centrifugal force, kung hindi, maraming tatapon na mga sasakyan palabas ng kalsada sa mga kurbada..

johnmizer

March 26th, 2009, 04:36 AM

siguro worst curver yung mula carriedo pauntang central,,, hinde ba nila naisipn gawing gradual yung curve na yun dati?

happosai

March 26th, 2009, 06:22 AM

siguro worst curver yung mula carriedo pauntang central,,, hinde ba nila naisipn gawing gradual yung curve na yun dati?

OO nga. Minsan tumitilapon yung mga t@ng@ng di humakawak sa handrails pag dumadaan doon. Lalu na yung sa area na paglabas ng central station going to monumento. :lol:

han742

March 26th, 2009, 07:01 AM

siguro worst curver yung mula carriedo pauntang central,,, hinde ba nila naisipn gawing gradual yung curve na yun dati?

napagitnaan kasi yun ng mga building yung portion na yun, mabuti nga kahit panu nakasingit dun ang riles ng LRT-1,:)

evilgenius15

March 26th, 2009, 07:27 AM

yung pag tagilid ng tren sa lugar na yon ay normal lang kasi nga sharp curves yung mga nasabing lugar. hindi level ang mga tracks, mas mataas sa outer side. kung tawagin sa mga highways ay super elevation. hindi ko alam tawag sa mga railways. kaya nila gingawa yun ay para maiwasan ung epekto ng centrifugal force, kung hindi, maraming tatapon na mga sasakyan palabas ng kalsada sa mga kurbada..

yan ba yung banked curves? parang nascar?

sushi___

March 26th, 2009, 11:16 AM

Takeover of MRT to cost $800m — Finance

http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=business3_mar26_2009

By Eileen A. Mencias

The government’s plan to take majority control of Metro Rail Transit Corp. by buying the asset-backed securities it issued in 2002 will cost it at least $700 million to $800 million, Finance Department sources said yesterday.

The sources said the cost would increase as the government planned to acquire the company’s equity as well.

Banking sources said those holding a bigger chunk of the instruments, Elliott Associates and Goldman Sachs, seemed receptive to government’s buyout, especially with the volatility in the financial markets and higher risk in emerging markets like the Philippines.

Another source, meanwhile, said it was difficult to trace the securities now because of their high yield and wide distribution.

The source said the government issued some $1.3 billion worth of the bonds at different maturities. About $1.2 billion worth of bonds are maturing in 2025.

Some $66 million of the bonds matured in 2007 and $30.97 million in 2008. Another $30.97 million are maturing this year while $33.89 million will fall due next year.

PhilRatings downgraded the ratings on the securities in 2007 because of uncertainties on the timing and the amount of government subsidy.

Finance Secretary Margarito Teves had said that the government planned to complete the purchase majority of the firm by next week. GOOD NEWS FINALLY!!! NOW THEY CAN BUY THOSE TRAINS FOR MRT!!! :banana::banana:

A Commission on Audit report on the Transportation Department in 2007 said the government paid MRT Corp. P16.67 billion for the undertaking, including P8.91 billion in equity rental fees from 2000 to 2007. The department in 2007 paid MRT Corp. P3.89 billion, inclusive of P2.46 billion in equity rental payments. The equity rental payments serve as the main source of income for the asset-backed securities.

MRT Corp. stakeholders include Anglo Holdings, Fil-Estate Management Inc. and Ramcar Inc.

The government plans to allow Land Bank of the Philippines and Development Bank of the Philippines to buy the shares and the securities from existing holders.

absinthe_888

March 26th, 2009, 11:45 AM

^^ where will Gloria get $ 800M, from issuing bonds?

evilgenius15

March 26th, 2009, 11:45 AM

what station pala sa lrt yung may tumalon sa rail tracks?

RonnieR

March 26th, 2009, 12:45 PM

what station pala sa lrt yung may tumalon sa rail tracks?

Troubled housewife survives LRT jump

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abs-cbnNEWS.com | 03/26/2009 1:50 PM

A troubled housewife tried to commit suicide by letting herself get run over by a light rail train in Manila, Thursday morning.

A radio dzMM report said 41-year-old Teresita Tagle of Tondo district jumped into the tracks of Light Railway Transit Line 1's Tayuman station upon seeing an approaching train around 9:18 a.m.

Fortunately, security personnel were able to immediately pull Tagle off the tracks before the speeding train crushed her.

The radio report said Tagle survived the incident with minor bruises. After a brief medical check up at Jose Reyes Memorial Medical Center, Tagle was brought back to Tayuman station and questioned by LRT officers.

The report said that according to the woman, her family is faced with a "small" financial problem. She said her husband is a delivery helper with a meager salary and she has three children, and the youngest is four months old.

LRT officials said they were supposed to ask Tagle to pay a fine of P15,000 for disrupting the train's operations, but opted to waive it after hearing her story.

as of 03/26/2009 1:50 PM

RonnieR

March 26th, 2009, 12:46 PM

^^ where will Gloria get $ 800M, from issuing bonds?

(AFX UK Focus) 2009-03-26 08:37
Manila to borrow $1.2 bln more in local debt in 2009

MANILA, March 26 (Reuters) - The Philippines plans to borrow 55.5 billion pesos ($1.2 billion) more from the local debt market this year than announced earlier to bridge a wider fiscal gap, National Treasurer Roberto Tan said on Thursday.
"That takes into consideration the updated deficit (target)," Tan told Reuters.
Manila has raised its domestic borrowing programme for 2009 to 442.04 billion pesos from the original plan of 386.55 billion pesos after the government increased its budget deficit target this year to allow for higher spending meant to shore up the local economy, Tan said.
Last month, the Southeast Asian country raised its fiscal shortfall goal for this year to 177.2 billion pesos, or 2.2 percent of gross domestic product, from 102 billion pesos.
It aims to raise 104.5 billion pesos from the domestic debt market in the second quarter, the government said on Wednesday. It borrowed about 60.45 billion pesos in the first three months of the year, based on Reuters' calculations of Treasury auction awards.
Despite the adjustment in planned local borrowings, Tan said the Philippines' borrowing mix remained at 75-25 in favour of domestic debt.
Local borrowings in the January to March period were lower than the 92 billion pesos domestic debt plan it originally set for the period.
The Philippines, which relies heavily on local and foreign debt to fund its budget deficit, raised $1.5 billion from a global bond offer early this year.
Finance Secretary Margarito Teves said on Wednesday the government is sticking to its budget deficit goal this year despite warnings from the socio-economic planning chief that the 2009 budget gap could widen to as much as 275 billion pesos if tax collections fall short and the state fails to sell assets.

(Reporting by Karen Lema; Editing by Kazunori Takada)

kaelthas18

March 26th, 2009, 03:10 PM

^^ where will Gloria get $ 800M, from issuing bonds?

eh di utang sa kaban ng bayan...san pa ba?

kaelthas18

March 26th, 2009, 04:03 PM

bottom line...it should look like lrt1 stations.....original ang concept at pinoy ang dating....bahay kubo...yung lrt 2 modern ang concept...japan hk at singa ko nakita ang mga ganon...yung mrt3 yun ang design na pinakapangit...siguro sa tabi tabi lang na architect yung gumawa nun....

does the current consortium of MRT 3 are the ones who buildt and design it?
For me the most ugliest station along MRT is the Shaw boulevard... the exterior is so ugly.. the design of the station north bound is modern facing edsa central, while south bound facing starmall and shangrila looks like a roof of a public market..hehe:cheers:

evilgenius15

March 26th, 2009, 04:16 PM

does the current consortium of MRT 3 are the ones who buildt and design it?
For me the most ugliest station along MRT is the Shaw boulevard... the exterior is so ugly.. the design of the station north bound is modern facing edsa central, while south bound facing starmall and shangrila looks like a roof of a public market..hehe:cheers:

totoo...?! hehehehe... hindi ko napansin yun...
ang ayoko naman sa mrt3 yung ayala station...
ANLIIT NG PLATFORM!!! paano kung napuno yun,
tapos marami pang bumababa, at yung dumating na train ay puno
na rin, tsktsk...

kalbongdad

March 26th, 2009, 05:09 PM

does the current consortium of MRT 3 are the ones who buildt and design it?
For me the most ugliest station along MRT is the Shaw boulevard... the exterior is so ugly.. the design of the station north bound is modern facing edsa central, while south bound facing starmall and shangrila looks like a roof of a public market..hehe:cheers:

actually i already wrote dotc about it and they made some changes...i mentioned the poor lighting ang the dirt when you have to pass from star mall to the other side...kakatakot dumaan.........sayang we spent billions of pesos on that infra...para lang mababoy ng mga nagtitinda ng laman at kung ano-ano pa...

kaelthas18

March 26th, 2009, 05:39 PM

totoo...?! hehehehe... hindi ko napansin yun...
ang ayoko naman sa mrt3 yung ayala station...
ANLIIT NG PLATFORM!!! paano kung napuno yun,
tapos marami pang bumababa, at yung dumating na train ay puno
na rin, tsktsk...

hehe,one thing for sure... ung mga nag conduct ng feasible study together with the contructors ,operators and consortium as well as the gov't ay pumalpak sa MRT.. sana wag nila pabayaan ang MRt tulad ng ngyari sa PNR..

well in fairness, at least ung PNR may mga new sets of trains na.. kaya lang sad news, habang test run nla kanina , nadiskaril raw..haha:bash:

kaelthas18

March 26th, 2009, 05:56 PM

actually i already wrote dotc about it and they made some changes...i mentioned the poor lighting ang the dirt when you have to pass from star mall to the other side...kakatakot dumaan.........sayang we spent billions of pesos on that infra...para lang mababoy ng mga nagtitinda ng laman at kung ano-ano pa...

yeah... for me, parang minadali ang paggawa and pagdesign nito, w/o proper planning ,consulting and bara bara ung pagkagawa kasi..it takes time to design a building ayan pa kayang major infrastructure.. sana yan mga ganyan na infra project ang well funded kasi para hindi tyo makantsawan ng ibang neighbor countries natin.. syempre kahit sino naman makakita mapapangitan diba, unless tanggap mo na lang na ganun..hayy

and also one thing .. i suggest to mRT they put electronic matrix board.. ung tulad sa lrt 1 and lrt2 .. mas malinaw kasi basahin ng mga passengers lalo na pag delay o skip ang train.. malayo palang kasi kita mo na rather than putting lcds na di naman pinapansin.. ang mga lcds sana nilagay nila sa concourse area..

station designs of mrt di lahat parepareho.. eto ang culprit ICF Kaiser Engineers and Constructors,Inc.. they are incharge of planning,to provide program management and technical oversight of the services for the design, construction management and commissioning of the MRT3 rail system.

north ave,q.ave,kamuning,santolan ,boni,taft- puro flat roof.. pag nasa labas ka ng station mukang isang malaking box na nakalutang..haha :lol::lol:
the rest mukang ewan na (para sa akin lang)...hope one day pag gov't na ang may-ari sana irenovate nila o ayusin man lang ang flow..

le Reine

March 26th, 2009, 06:30 PM

^^Imagine mo na lang ang hassle ng maglakad sa baba ng MRT stations lalo na sa may Oritgas Station, ADB side!

johnmizer

March 27th, 2009, 04:24 AM

any explanatioin bakit galos lang ang najuha ng tumalaon sa incoming train?

absinthe_888

March 27th, 2009, 04:28 AM

eh di utang sa kaban ng bayan...san pa ba?

utang nga:lol:

anyway about dun sa babaeng tumalon sa riles ng LRT, mas maganda yung video ng TV Patrol kehz 24 Oras, "exclusive" binagay ng LRT sa ch2 ang CCTV video, ktang kita yung pagtalon at pagdaan ng tren eh...pero naisip ko buhay yung ale, buhay nga...sa siyete naman celphone video lang na nakahinto na yung tren at nasilip na yung mga pasahero sa ilalim...

evilgenius15

March 27th, 2009, 05:32 AM

^^Imagine mo na lang ang hassle ng maglakad sa baba ng MRT stations lalo na sa may Oritgas Station, ADB side!

diyan ba yung sobrang kitid na sidewalk?
haha... naalala ko tuloy bad experience ko diyan sa mrt ortigas...
dahil punuan yung train, pagkalabas ko may tumapak ata sa sapatos
ko, and then pagkatingin ko... gutom na :ohno::ohno::ohno:

nico216

March 27th, 2009, 05:48 AM

siguro worst curver yung mula carriedo pauntang central,,, hinde ba nila naisipn gawing gradual yung curve na yun dati?

dont you mean from central to cariedo?? ung nakakagulat na curve? hahahahaha.. palagi akong napapatagilid dun.

dati kasing last station ang central terminal kaya 3 ung tracks nya s likod kaya may sharp curve parang sa monumento..

RonnieR

March 27th, 2009, 06:50 AM

does the current consortium of MRT 3 are the ones who buildt and design it?
For me the most ugliest station along MRT is the Shaw boulevard... the exterior is so ugly.. :cheers:

I think Shaw boulevard is not that ugly...the escalators are okay despite being so steep. I also like this station since it has direct access to Shang mall and also direct from parking building facing EDSA.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3069/2834641477_47ac3ece82.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3110/2798545733_2a697133a8.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3132/2798515117_70b75536e4.jpg?v=0
flickr city of mandaluyong

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2036/2469132525_c2062ba44b_m.jpg
flickr eazy traveler

ionmarx

March 27th, 2009, 07:16 AM

diyan ba yung sobrang kitid na sidewalk?
haha... naalala ko tuloy bad experience ko diyan sa mrt ortigas...
dahil punuan yung train, pagkalabas ko may tumapak ata sa sapatos
ko, and then pagkatingin ko... gutom na :ohno::ohno::ohno:

Along EDSA sidewalk kasi yung stairway/escalator ng MRT3 Ortigas northbound -- so kung tutuusin pwede ipademolish ni BF yung mga hagdanan dun kasi harang talaga sa bangketa :bash: Me pader na kasi ng ADB yung area kaya hindi nila naipasok gaya nung sa southbound side.

RonnieR

March 27th, 2009, 12:08 PM

I like this shot. Is it in Magallanes station?...flickr M Butler

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2391/2255105192_3dd2e43aca.jpg?v=0

kaelthas18

March 27th, 2009, 12:17 PM

I think Shaw boulevard is not that ugly...the escalators are okay despite being so steep. I also like this station since it has direct access to Shang mall and also direct from parking building facing EDSA.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3069/2834641477_47ac3ece82.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3110/2798545733_2a697133a8.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3132/2798515117_70b75536e4.jpg?v=0
flickr city of mandaluyong

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2036/2469132525_c2062ba44b_m.jpg
flickr eazy traveler

what i mean is it looks like a public market on that view, on the other end naman facing edsa central mukhang modern.. :nuts:

look at the far end after the shaw fly over
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/9711/trtrt565.jpg

look for any resemblance..spot the different
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3069/2834641477_47ac3ece82.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3225/2321382393_78de9eb3e7.jpg?v=0

hehehe..kuha mo point ko?hehe

RonnieR

March 27th, 2009, 12:53 PM

what i mean is it looks like a public market on that view, on the other end naman facing edsa central mukhang modern.. :nuts:

look at the far end after the shaw fly over
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/9711/trtrt565.jpg

look for any resemblance..spot the different
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3069/2834641477_47ac3ece82.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3225/2321382393_78de9eb3e7.jpg?v=0

hehehe..kuha mo point ko?hehe

So, you're not referring to the station but the wet market near the station, actually not so near hhmmmm, just a view. Anyway, I have not seen that . :lol:

renell

March 27th, 2009, 12:55 PM

my house also has a steep roof ;)

btw that station... wow, super steep.

evilgenius15

March 27th, 2009, 02:01 PM

hinabol siguro nila ang height sa edsa-shaw flyover...

bustero

March 27th, 2009, 05:13 PM

Shaw station has disparate looks because Greenfields adopted one part of the station and fixed it up (the one you call nice), they combined it with their mall and actually lease space in it. This is the same with the Ayala station. They are a MRTC shareholder. The other side is the same typical design as other stations. Initially Greenfields was going to fix up the other side as well but they did not make money on their side so they did not bother fixing up Shangrila Star Mall's side.

MRTC buyout funding source just go down a few threads from whence you asked that question and you have your answer.

kaelthas18

March 27th, 2009, 05:23 PM

So, you're not referring to the station but the wet market near the station, actually not so near hhmmmm, just a view. Anyway, I have not seen that . :lol:

waaahhhh.. hndi mo pa rin ba nagets ?wla lang yang market na yan

again, what i mean is:

first ung roof ng shaw station sa picture na yan ay sobrang steep it looks like a public Market.. yang palengke na yan sa baba na pic eh Quinta market sa quiapo manila..

sa aking opinion it looks like a public market dahil kapangit pangit ng naging bubong.. other stations ng MRT hndi naman naging ganyan.. as i said a while ago on the previous page ang ibang stations roof deck (flat roof ) ang naging bubong ang iba curve roof.. dito lang naiba.. gets?

tpos po ung isa pang issue is that when you are travelling EDSA from MAkati (North bound) iba ang facade ng SHaw station.. modern sya tingnan, while the south bound going to Makati looks like a public market becoz of its steep roof .. as a resemblance of the example picture i post ^^

sa Sobrang steep nyan sana ginawa nlng curve roof kesa dos aguas .. look at taft station and cubao station... ganyan din ang design ng station.. boxy type pero ang bubong hndi ganyan kapangit.. im sory pero kasi un ang nakikita kong mali.. im more in design kasi and planning..

bustero

March 27th, 2009, 05:44 PM

@kaelthas , am not sure what you mean, the other stations also have similar roof designs as the northern end of shaw station...

RonnieR

March 27th, 2009, 05:52 PM

^^ yeah, I got it....I didn't know that out of 13 stations of blue line, it's only Shaw Boulevard has a different roof...i'm not really a regular rider....but I do take MRT occasionaly since it's faster, safe and comfortable as well :)

han742

March 28th, 2009, 06:55 AM

@kaelthas , am not sure what you mean, the other stations also have similar roof designs as the northern end of shaw station...

yes, ang alam ko parepareho lang ang design ng roof sa mga stairs nila sa ibang stations, isa lang yata ang supplier nito,:) for example in North Ave. Station...

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/5763/img0223o.jpg (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0223o.jpg):banana:

happosai

March 28th, 2009, 12:06 PM

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3069/2834641477_47ac3ece82.jpg?v=0

OO nga ang panget nya. Its more of a "Bahay Kubo" look than a market.
Pero kahit anung reklamo gawin natin. Wala na tayo magagawa. Nandyan na yan. Kung popondohan nyo baka mabago yan. Hehehe...

wheel of steel

March 28th, 2009, 12:22 PM

OO nga ang panget nya. Its more of a "Bahay Kubo" look than a market.
Pero kahit anung reklamo gawin natin. Wala na tayo magagawa. Nandyan na yan. Kung popondohan nyo baka mabago yan. Hehehe...

Inuumpisan pa lang ang MRT3 noon 1997, kontra kontra na ako dyan. The LRT system is supposedly designed with the use of Semi-Heavy Rail vehicle. Just like of that of Mega TREN. That's why where having deficulties in acquiring LRTVs simply because most of the available LRVs today are like Mega TREN.

Not only that, the infrastructure is so light. It was designed from Tram-like system. It can only accommodate tram-like system. Unlike LRT2, was really designed for mass transport.

Although appears to be an MRT System also, Northrail infrastructure was designed for the heaviest possible load of train like cargo.

paul_nexz

March 28th, 2009, 04:01 PM

has anyone here have pictures of the rail track beams in LRT Extension? i've seen some near MCU.

kaelthas18

March 28th, 2009, 05:13 PM

has anyone here have pictures of the rail track beams in LRT Extension? i've seen some near MCU.

eto ang support post sa tabi ng sidewalk along rizal avenue
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/kaelthas18/d001.jpg

nagstart na maghukay along the curves of the Rotunda of Monumento
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/kaelthas18/d002.jpg

finally the first beam:lol::lol: in front of MCU..haha
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/kaelthas18/d003.jpg

boom_box

March 28th, 2009, 05:44 PM

^^ nice one kaelthas18...
looking the pier and beam seams to sleek and modern design... :)

kaelthas18

March 28th, 2009, 05:49 PM

pansin nyo ba ung MRT puro advertisement all around pati stations and trains.. pero luge pa din.. buti pa lrt 1 noh?... for MRT operators booohhhh!!!.. sana magpataba pa kayo ng pera nyo ha.. tama yan. Diyos nlng bahala sa inyo..hehe

Mithril Cloud

March 28th, 2009, 06:26 PM

eto ang support post sa tabi ng sidewalk along rizal avenue
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/kaelthas18/d001.jpg

From the looks of this, they're not connecting the extension on the end of the tracks but on the sides.

han742

March 28th, 2009, 09:15 PM

^^yup, sa side nga siya idadaan dahil kung sa dulo ng LRT-1 kakailanganing gibain ang monumento ni Bonifacio,:)

happosai

March 29th, 2009, 02:43 AM

eto ang support post sa tabi ng sidewalk along rizal avenue
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/kaelthas18/d001.jpg

^^Di kaya gagawan lang ng walkway yan na parang sa LRT1/LRT2?

Ang galing mo talaga kaelthas18, mapa MRT/LRT o PNR may mga pics ka. :banana:
Puwede ka nang city tour guide. Hehehehe... :lol:

kaelthas18

March 29th, 2009, 03:24 AM

kainis ung area na ito... kawawa naman ang mga may kapansanan..tsk tsk.. they can't use MRT kelangan pa nila pumunta ng shaw station dahil wlang elevator.. loko ADB, di man lang nagshare ng lupa.. buti pa sa Camp crame (anapolis station ng MRT), binenta space para sa mag ka space sa mass transport

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5913/adb1.jpg
ayos na sana na nilagyan nila ng lights sa gabi.. kaya lang ang sikip pa din at MAPANGHI^^
MRT has the most MAPANGHI stations

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/2964/adb2.jpg

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/1862/adb3.jpg
^^eto ang kakainis kapag rush hour.. give and take dapat.. malas mo pa pag umulan kasi ung mga fence ang dumi pag sumabit sa damit mo, malas mo..hehe ung payong din kelangan mong itupi para makalusot ka dito:bash:
Look at the plastic garbage na nakatali sa fence.. hay ang iba tlga mga Juan Tamad... Tinatamad magbitbit ng sariling basura.
Ang galing tlga ng MRT noh? :lol: very nice..:cheers:

kaelthas18

March 29th, 2009, 03:40 AM

Di kaya gagawan lang ng walkway yan na parang sa LRT1/LRT2?

maybe or maybe not.. pero may naka tatak na FB... First Balfour

kratos1211

March 29th, 2009, 04:06 AM

finally the first beam:lol::lol: in front of MCU..haha
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/kaelthas18/d003.jpg

^^ Box girder sana katulad ng MRT2, mas sleek tingnan.

stephencua

March 29th, 2009, 05:28 AM

there's another narrow passageway along the buendia station going north

adgaps

March 29th, 2009, 05:36 AM

finally the first beam:lol::lol: in front of MCU..haha
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/kaelthas18/d003.jpg

wow! naglalagay na ng beams... hehe... ok na ok yan ah...

teka, ano ba itsura ng riles ng MRT2? hindi pa kasi ako nakakasakay dun eh...

pero ang pagkakaalam ko parang ganyan din itsura nun di ba?

wheel of steel

March 29th, 2009, 05:42 AM

^^ Box girder sana katulad ng MRT2, mas sleek tingnan.

Very similar yung structure sa LRT1. The structure for LRT2 girder is designed to carry heavy loads. While it appears only 1 big column for all of these LRT phases, Northrail on the other hand has the biggest of all these columns using 2 columns.

han742

March 29th, 2009, 09:05 AM

UPDATE... 29 Mar '09
May beam na rin po sa tabi ni RR... :lol:

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/2705/img1097l.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1097l.jpg)

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/4836/img1103k.jpg (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1103k.jpg)

:banana::banana::banana:

ADDDDA

March 29th, 2009, 09:05 AM

maybe or maybe not.. pero may naka tatak na FB... First Balfour

Tingin ko idudugtong talaga nila yan...kasi kung Walkway lang yan, hassle sa mga tao palipat lipat pa ng tren.

saka walang Depot na mapaglalagyan para sa North Extension.:)

han742

March 29th, 2009, 09:15 AM

Tingin ko idudugtong talaga nila yan...kasi kung Walkway lang yan, hassle sa mga tao palipat lipat pa ng tren.

saka walang Depot na mapaglalagyan para sa North Extension.:)

add to that they have never mentioned Monumento Station to be built on this LRT-1 North Extension, just North Ave., Roosevelt/Muñoz, Balintawak, and Gen. Malvar-Bagong Barrio Stations, no Monumento Station mentioned, if ever they will build a walkway they should have dug up to the front of Ever Gotesco Grand Central going to Monumento Terminal of LRT-1 which they never did,:)

kratos1211

March 29th, 2009, 09:52 AM

^^ I think magkadugtong sila based sa Description ng project from LRTA website

Brief Description of the Project
This Project involves the construction of a 5.71-km. elevated line seamlessly from Monumento of Line 1 to North Avenue Station of Line 3. The scope of works include:
Civil and Architectural Works, including construction of the three new stations (Balintawak, Roosevelt and North) as well as improvements in Monumento Station, modification of pedestrian overpasses and the provision and installation of all the required elevators and escalators thereat.

evilgenius15

March 29th, 2009, 09:57 AM

Planning Democracy

March 29th, 2009, 10:37 AM

sushi___

March 29th, 2009, 11:50 AM

nung dumaan ako ng friday sa tabi ni RR wala pang beams ngayon meron na

galing talaga ang bilis... sana laging recession at election year hahaha

:lol::lol::lol:

kalbongdad

March 29th, 2009, 12:18 PM

Matagal ko na rin kina aasaran itong side ng station na ito, why can't the ADB donate a portion of their land para naman magka sidewalk dito or magkaroon ng direct connection to Megamall or to Galleria??

As in sobrang weird yung pag babalance ng tao sa sidewalk na kelangan one by one pa.

Let's do something about this station!

Well i think we should clamor for an improvement on this site....talaga naman na nakakainis.....nadadaan din ako dyan pa minsan minsan hazard ang lugar na yan....kawawa ang mga matataba dyan....

as to the beams...well ambilis ha...kudos to the contractor......galing

han742

March 29th, 2009, 12:24 PM

MORE UPDATES... 29 Mar '09
Muñoz Area...
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/2694/img1113g.jpg (http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1113g.jpg)

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/1438/img1112l.jpg (http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1112l.jpg)

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/866/img1109t.jpg (http://img12.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1109t.jpg)

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/6002/img1104w.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1104w.jpg)

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7278/img1105o.jpg (http://img24.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1105o.jpg)

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/3213/img1106jdl.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1106jdl.jpg)

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5027/img1107b.jpg (http://img24.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1107b.jpg)

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/1871/img1114e.jpg (http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1114e.jpg)

Bagong Barrio (Caloocan City-Quezon City Boundary)...
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/4068/img1061i.jpg (http://img17.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1061i.jpg)

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/5541/img1063l.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1063l.jpg)

Bagong Barrio...
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/3470/img1065m.jpg (http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1065m.jpg)

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/9429/img1067z.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1067z.jpg)

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8066/img1068o.jpg (http://img24.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1068o.jpg)

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/4789/img1070tdy.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1070tdy.jpg)

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/7858/img1071roy.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1071roy.jpg)

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/7457/img1075c.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1075c.jpg)

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/9850/img1076c.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1076c.jpg)

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/9369/img1077h.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1077h.jpg)

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/6457/img1082n.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1082n.jpg)

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/6055/img1083trv.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1083trv.jpg)

Balintawak Area...
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/1561/img1058q.jpg (http://img17.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1058q.jpg)

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/4835/img1059u.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1059u.jpg)

Monumento Area...
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/6845/img1090w.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1090w.jpg)

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8330/img1093y.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1093y.jpg)

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/6512/img1091j.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1091j.jpg)

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8919/img1094a.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1094a.jpg)

:banana::banana::banana:

kalbongdad

March 29th, 2009, 12:36 PM

bilis bilib ako....sana lahat ng projects ng government relative to highways bridges and rails makuha ng contractor na ito....galing ibig sabihin magagaling ang mga eng'rs nila.....

JulZ

March 29th, 2009, 01:58 PM

very fast improvements! para bang kabuteng nagsilitawan.. mukhang may lakad ata ang mga engineers nito..:lol: galing! di na aabutin ng 2010 ata to eh

kalbongdad

March 29th, 2009, 02:01 PM

very fast improvements! para bang kabuteng nagsilitawan.. mukhang may lakad ata ang mga engineers nito..:lol: galing! di na aabutin ng 2010 ata to eh

oo nga mukhang gustong mag vacation ngayon holy week..:lol:

ionmarx

March 29th, 2009, 02:16 PM

From the looks of this, they're not connecting the extension on the end of the tracks but on the sides.

So would this mean yung portion ng LRT1 from this point papunta sa Monumento monument (redundant ba hehe :p) eh gigibain later since wala nang purpose? (Or pwedeng hindi rin para may turnaround in case of problems?)

adgaps

March 29th, 2009, 02:42 PM

So would this mean yung portion ng LRT1 from this point papunta sa Monumento monument (redundant ba hehe :p) eh gigibain later since wala nang purpose? (Or pwedeng hindi rin para may turnaround in case of problems?)

palagay ko gigibain, pero yung konting part lang... para lang maikurba yung route ng riles...

kaelthas18

March 29th, 2009, 02:57 PM

curious ako kung ano ialalagay nilang pangharang sa gilid ng girder... precast parapet ba or railings lang tulad ng mrt3...hehe

chris_nigel

March 29th, 2009, 03:23 PM

record breaking to sa mga projects ng Pilipinas kakatuwa tignan ng mga pics cguro by july may girders na lahat yah

keep it up contractors

ADDDDA

March 29th, 2009, 03:28 PM

curious ako kung ano ialalagay nilang pangharang sa gilid ng girder... precast parapet ba or railings lang tulad ng mrt3...hehe

sana naman wag na yung precast parapet na gaya ng sa lrt-1, ang panget kasi tignan eh lalo na kung luma na.

mas maganda sana kung kagaya sa lrt-2...walang railings hehe...sa gitna ang daanan.:cheers:

kalbongdad

March 29th, 2009, 03:48 PM

ako kahit....ano yan basta matapos agad at functional at wag lang kagaya ng mrt3 na panget....

Ecija

March 29th, 2009, 04:07 PM

Ang bilis talaga! Sana sila din ang magconstruct ng south extension.:)

kalbongdad

March 29th, 2009, 04:12 PM

Ang bilis talaga! Sana sila din ang magconstruct ng south extension.:)

hindi malayo...with there track record....that will be an advantage...

kaelthas18

March 29th, 2009, 04:27 PM

hindi malayo...with there track record....that will be an advantage...

bakit may nabasa ako dati na ung may-ari daw ng Harbor Center na si Reghis Romero eh plan nya iconstruct ung LRT1 south line.. is this true?

kaelthas18

March 29th, 2009, 04:39 PM

kelan raw naman ang LRT south extension?

barrera_marquez

March 29th, 2009, 04:53 PM

sana naman wag na yung precast parapet na gaya ng sa lrt-1, ang panget kasi tignan eh lalo na kung luma na.

mas maganda sana kung kagaya sa lrt-2...walang railings hehe...sa gitna ang daanan.:cheers:

Not to mention dangerous kasi sa ngayon ang LRT-1 ay malapit nang magpaulan ng mga precast parapet walls... luma na kasi e.

ionmarx

March 29th, 2009, 05:16 PM

Di man lang nila naisip dati nung 1984 na mas maayos tingnan ang steel railing na lang? O nung oras na yun eh mas mura magkongkreto? Di ba?

Sana nga yung LRT1 North Extension wala na kahit ano. Mala-LRT2 na nasa gitna ang daanan para slimmer. Sexier! :lol:

D'Watcher

March 29th, 2009, 06:00 PM

RonnieR

March 29th, 2009, 07:03 PM

finally the first beam:lol::lol: in front of MCU..haha
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/kaelthas18/d003.jpg

nice, thanks.

Not only that, the infrastructure is so light. It was designed from Tram-like system. It can only accommodate tram-like system. Unlike LRT2, was really designed for mass transport.

Although appears to be an MRT System also, Northrail infrastructure was designed for the heaviest possible load of train like cargo.

I agree...blue line is like a tram - ground level.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/39/118626271_154f591fc5_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3102/2338710171_dfbb951b08.jpg
flickr my_soul_insurance2004

I was wondering why MRT 3 put the trains at the ground level just like tram....

Ph Man

March 29th, 2009, 08:34 PM

FlashCollider

March 29th, 2009, 08:53 PM

the connection of monumento station to the edsa part of lrt 1 will have a sharp curve from the looks of it. this will be like the legarda curve of LRT2.

kaelthas18

March 29th, 2009, 11:56 PM

PNR has a new DMU already. kelan naman kaya dadating ang MRT new trains.. ?

kaelthas18

March 29th, 2009, 11:58 PM

^^ that part is between Guadalupe and Buendia. The track will go underground so it has to be at ground level in that stretch. ;) The stretch that is at ground level for no apparent reason is that part between Magallanes and Taft. Maybe because of Tramo flyover?

i think (my opinion only) the way they put the rails on an embankment instead of an elevated rails on those areas is because embankment method rails are more cheaper to build rather than putting post and elevated rails.. also there's an issue siguro sa soil bearing capacity etc etc.. baka soft ang soil sa mga naka embankment.

FlashCollider

March 30th, 2009, 12:29 AM

kaelthas18

March 30th, 2009, 01:02 AM

OT lang sandali.. post ko lang itong pioneer sa MEtro system..discovery channel parang yung post ko dati about sa Westcoast Line sa Youtube.
Kelan kaya ma-aaply ang ganitong system sa atin?

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Ecija

March 30th, 2009, 03:14 AM

Not to mention dangerous kasi sa ngayon ang LRT-1 ay malapit nang magpaulan ng mga precast parapet walls... luma na kasi e.

Wala po kaya silang plan na irehabilitate na din yung mga precast parapet walls o kaya tuluyan ng tanggalin para safe at milinis tingnan gaya ng sa LRT 2?

chris_nigel

March 30th, 2009, 04:19 AM

nakakaiingit naman

absinthe_888

March 30th, 2009, 04:37 AM

^^ thanks for the updates guys, at the rate of work that FB and DMCI is doing right now, meeting the revised Dec. 2009 completion date seems realistic and feasible...

RonnieR

March 30th, 2009, 08:58 AM

MORE UPDATES... 29 Mar '09
Monumento Area...
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/6845/img1090w.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1090w.jpg)

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8330/img1093y.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1093y.jpg)

:banana::banana::banana:

thanks! :cheers:

RonnieR

March 30th, 2009, 09:03 AM

boroyski

March 30th, 2009, 09:17 AM

nice, thanks.

I agree...blue line is like a tram - ground level.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/39/118626271_154f591fc5_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3102/2338710171_dfbb951b08.jpg
flickr my_soul_insurance2004

I was wondering why MRT 3 put the trains at the ground level just like tram....

If my memory serves me right, this question already poped-up before, at nasagot na rin ng isang forummer.

Gawa yata ng mga taga dasma village, kaya ground level and UG ung MRT sa parte jan...

i think (my opinion only) the way they put the rails on an embankment instead of an elevated rails on those areas is because embankment method rails are more cheaper to build rather than putting post and elevated rails.. also there's an issue siguro sa soil bearing capacity etc etc.. baka soft ang soil sa mga naka embankment.

...it is becasue of the privacy of the village or something.

RonnieR

March 30th, 2009, 09:40 AM

^^ thanks for clarification.

absinthe_888

March 30th, 2009, 09:56 AM

^^ kita naman sa google earth ang mga palasyo nila :lol:

han742

March 30th, 2009, 10:00 AM

^^makikita rin kasi sila sa mga private pools, imagine naka-bathing suit tapos pagdaan ng train eh para silang nasa sinehan na pinapanuod ng maraming tao sa tren, naku,:lol:

kaelthas18

March 30th, 2009, 10:02 AM

If my memory serves me right, this question already poped-up before, at nasagot na rin ng isang forummer.

Gawa yata ng mga taga dasma village, kaya ground level and UG ung MRT sa parte jan...

...it is becasue of the privacy of the village or something.

cguro ung sa part na yan.. e pano naman ung bandang kamuning-cubao? wla naman mayayaman duon ah..naka embankment din

ung santolan(anapolis)-corinthian ,boni-guadalupe bridge,magallanes -taft, ganun din

han742

March 30th, 2009, 10:08 AM

^^santolan-annapolis station has the Camp Aguinaldo/Camp Crame security reasons IMO,

boroyski

March 30th, 2009, 10:19 AM

cguro ung sa part na yan.. e pano naman ung bandang kamuning-cubao? wla naman mayayaman duon ah..naka embankment din

ung santolan(anapolis)-corinthian ,boni-guadalupe bridge,magallanes -taft, ganun din

aside from elite people's privacy and police's/AFP's security, imo the main reason is money. It is cheaper to build tracks on ground level compared to elevated one.

jefflacs

March 30th, 2009, 10:53 AM

^^santolan-annapolis station has the Camp Aguinaldo/Camp Crame security reasons IMO,

balewala din yan kita din loob ng camp aguinaldo golf course side nga lang saka bahay ng mga opisyal from santolan-anapolis station to cubao side. Kita din kahit papano yung sa Camp Crame.

kalbongdad

March 30th, 2009, 11:07 AM

balewala din yan kita din loob ng camp aguinaldo golf course side nga lang saka bahay ng mga opisyal from santolan-anapolis station to cubao side. Kita din kahit papano yung sa Camp Crame.

yung dyan sa may tramo....supposedly elevated yan....tingnan ninyo ang fence ng mrt meron siyang cement wall na meron rebars...at pataas....sa pagmamadali ni erap na matapos ang project.(sa panahon ni erap nangyari ang changes)..ibinaba ang mrt at nilagyan ng overpass.....dahil mas madali i-construct yung overpass....kaya tuloy kung dudugtungan papuntang moa....kailangan mag bakbak...at baguhin ulit ang area na yan....kaya putol putol or bitin bitin ating mga mrt....dapat hanggang moa siya....diba may sense yun....at yung mrt2 diba hanggang divisoria dapat siya?...pero bakit bitin....?....pressure groups....na hindi kayang harapin ng administrayon noon...buti na lang meron political will ngayon...kaya na linis ang mga iskwater at natuloy rehab ng mga rails natin...

kratos1211

March 30th, 2009, 11:35 AM

Colonel Burger

March 30th, 2009, 11:42 AM

LRT's official statement: ..."LRT 2 trains, from Santolan to Recto Avenue, Manila, can travel at the speed of 40 to 80 kilometers per hour...",

I ride the train expecting it to be a faster commute than buses or jeepneys. But at 40kph?! that is slow.... in fact MRT3s 60km/h is not enough for me. trains should go at least 80-100kph.

kalbongdad

March 30th, 2009, 11:45 AM

The main reason is money kaya 50% ng MRT3 ay ground level, puede naman lagyan ng barrier para hindi makita ang mga loob ng subdivision o yun mga kampo kung fully elevated ito. Walang pera kasi naman ang MRT consortium, inutang lang lahat at charge ngayon sa government with fix margin pa. magaling talaga ang nagapprove na si Ramos (very corrupt na hindi halata). Tungkol naman sa MRT2, Takot kasi sila sa mga jeepney group kung hanggang divisoria o kaya hanggang pier ang MRT2.
Mas marami sana ang gumagamit ngayon. Sana sa next president, gawin yun extention ng east at west side ng MRT2. para hindi bitin ang ruta.

yung mrt3 ay project ni tabako...talaga yun dahil wala naman talagang big ticket accomplishment si erap na maipapakita liban sa mag pa cute sa masa....kaya nga siya tinadyakan palabas ng palasyo....but to put things in perspective...i vividly remember the change made sa tramo side...na yan dahil kontra kami nun....as proof...pag makakasakay kayo ng mrt3 hanggang taft...sa right side kayo ng tren pumwesto pag pasok nyo sa pasay observe the cement wall of the mrt3...at makikita nyo yung pataas na cement walls na may nakausling rebars na pinutol at hindi man lang inayos...nilagyan lang ng barbwire....:bash:..ganon ka sama ang project management ng mrt3....go see...living proof yan....

kaelthas18

March 30th, 2009, 12:32 PM

I ride the train expecting it to be a faster commute than buses or jeepneys. But at 40kph?! that is slow.... in fact MRT3s 60km/h is not enough for me. trains should go at least 80-100kph.

pinakamabagal na takbo ng LRT 2 eh pag-alis ng cubao papunta ng ANapolis station.. may interchange kasi dun ng rails..

absinthe_888

March 30th, 2009, 12:35 PM

The main reason is money kaya 50% ng MRT3 ay ground level, puede naman lagyan ng barrier para hindi makita ang mga loob ng subdivision o yun mga kampo kung fully elevated ito. Walang pera kasi naman ang MRT consortium, inutang lang lahat at charge ngayon sa government with fix margin pa. magaling talaga ang nagapprove na si Ramos (very corrupt na hindi halata). Tungkol naman sa MRT2, Takot kasi sila sa mga jeepney group kung hanggang divisoria o kaya hanggang pier ang MRT2.
Mas marami sana ang gumagamit ngayon. Sana sa next president, gawin yun extention ng east at west side ng MRT2. para hindi bitin ang ruta.

bitin nga yung LRT 2...sana magawan ng paraan to nang susunod na presidente. Let's not be held hostage by polluting, traffic causing, no disicipline and driving without-headlights-turned-on-at-night jeepney drivers...

Anyway, regarding sa MRT 3...ayos talaga ang diskarte, inutang lahat tapos naka charge sa government with fixed margins pa...eh talaga namang hindi bibitawan nang MRT consortium yan...

jefflacs

March 30th, 2009, 12:38 PM

pinakamabagal na takbo ng LRT 2 eh pag-alis ng cubao papunta ng ANapolis station.. may interchange kasi dun ng rails..

LRT2? cubao-anapolis diba sa MRT-3 yun? baka you meant cubao-anonas sa LRT2?

paul_nexz

March 30th, 2009, 12:45 PM

cguro ung sa part na yan.. e pano naman ung bandang kamuning-cubao? wla naman mayayaman duon ah..naka embankment din

ung santolan(anapolis)-corinthian ,boni-guadalupe bridge,magallanes -taft, ganun din

same din pag lagpas ng quezon ave going to kamuning - hindi elevated. the only thing I can think of (aside sa more budget for piers) eh wala naman intersection sa area na yun.

han742

March 30th, 2009, 05:12 PM

LRT2? cubao-anapolis diba sa MRT-3 yun? baka you meant cubao-anonas sa LRT2?

:lol: nagkahalu-halo na, mamya pati PNR magkaron pa ng istasyon sa North Ave.:lol: kasi naman pinuproblema natin ang mga bagay na hindi naman dapat masyadong problemahin, ipagpasalamat natin at unti-unti nang dumadami ang mga linya ng tren, kasama na rin dyan ang PNR, na pansin ko talagang nilinis ang mga dating "home along da riles,":banana:
another thing, ano ba yung piers na sinasabi dito, yun ba 'yung pylons o poste ng tren?

ADDDDA

March 30th, 2009, 07:55 PM

pinakamabagal na takbo ng LRT 2 eh pag-alis ng cubao papunta ng ANapolis station.. may interchange kasi dun ng rails..

Mas mabagal kapag alis ng recto station going legarda, zigzag kasi and sharp curves.

kratos1211

March 31st, 2009, 01:01 AM

good news?

Gov’t takes majority stake in MRT operator
from bworldonline (http://www.bworldonline.com/BW033109/content.php?id=001)

THE GOVERNMENT has acquired a majority stake in the company which runs the Metro Rail Transit (MRT) line on EDSA, a development officials said would generate savings and allow for improvements to the railway.

State-owned Development Bank of the Philippines (DBP) and Land Bank of the Philippines last month bought 56% of Metro Rail Transit Corp. (MRTC) — which operates the MRT-3 line — and is seeking to raise this to 76%, DBP president and CEO Reynaldo G. David told a briefing yesterday.

"The two GFIs (government financial institutions), DBP and Landbank, acquired a portion last December. We ... [initially] bought 26% and then a group came to us and offered us their stake last month, and so we were able to acquire 56%," he said.

"We have signed agreements and by the third week of April, the two GFIs will have 76% of MRT," he added.

Mr. David declined to elaborate on the cost and other details, saying the sale is covered by a nondisclosure agreement.

"We are under a confidentiality arrangement. We can’t divulge it (the details) or major complications will arise," he declared.

Finance Secretary Margarito B. Teves, however, said a government takeover of MRTC would allow for state savings that can be rechanneled to upgrade the railway.

"There will be savings to the tune of $235 million [which] will enable the government to expand the facility of MRT-3, and plans are being formulated to optimize revenues derived from collateral businesses in the rail system," he said.

Mr. David, for his part, said the government plans to increase the number of coaches and to reduce headway — the time interval between two following trains — to ensure the rider convenience.

"Before, we (the government) couldn’t increase coaches and reduce the headway because we did not own it (MRT)," he said.

"[Now] It’s incumbent for to us to make it efficient."

MRT-3 takeover plans were first raised some four years ago, with the government reasoning that doing so would be better than continuing to subsidize the railway while at the same time paying dues to MRTC under a build-operate-transfer agreement. The move was also spurred by the state’s being behind in payments, would have activated default provisions.

Officials considered a bond float of some $900 million to fund a buyout but this was scrapped in the wake of the global downturn. Earlier this year, officials said the government was looking at just taking a majority stake in MRTC.

MRTC is the Sobrepeña-led consortium that built the MRT-3 line, the busiest of Metro Manila’s three light railways and which runs 17 kilometers from North Ave. in Quezon City to Taft Ave. in Pasay City. The firm’s contract expires in 2025.

MRTC officials were not immediately available for comment.

Mr. Teves said the deal was not against privatization policy since the government was looking to divest "as soon as possible".

"We cannot call this a reverse privatization. It is only temporary. We just want to generate savings and expand the facilities. We will privatize this as quickly as possible," he said.

flip2_0

March 31st, 2009, 01:24 AM

queetz@home

March 31st, 2009, 01:55 AM

kaelthas18

March 31st, 2009, 02:22 AM

LRT2? cubao-anapolis diba sa MRT-3 yun? baka you meant cubao-anonas sa LRT2?
^^
hehe.. my fault,typo error.. yeah cubao-anonas pla..:lol:

ionmarx

March 31st, 2009, 03:17 AM

^^ Aye, it is good news indeed. Aside from extending the tracks to the Grand Central Station, it is also possible to physically link the MRT3 and LRT1 lines. Man! I don't want to go through hundred of pages of posts but I do remember that a government official said it was possible. If only they would do so, afterall, the trains are definitely compatible!

Again, here is the rendering that seems to imply that possibility... ;)

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r238/avidtraveler/MRT.jpg

Yup, nakita ko na rin yun dati sa previous thread. Posible nga raw. Kaso may tanong ako: Hindi ba mas malapad ang LRT1 LRVs kesa sa mga MRT3 LRVs? Parehong gauge sila so compatible yung pagtakbo sa riles, pero hindi kaya sa lapad nung LRT1 LRVs, kung mailink nga yung dalawang line physically, hindi kaya magka-issue sa collision sa takbo ng mga tren?

Maganda talagang matuloy yan, yung linking. Magandang ideya yan para sa mga commuter. Sino ba naman ang hindi matutuwa kung mula Taft Rotonda makakarating ka ng Caloocan nang hindi na nagpapalit pa ng sasakyan di ba???

(Yung MRT North Avenue station dapat i-rename na Mindanao station, kasi nakakalito sya sobra)

kaelthas18

March 31st, 2009, 03:35 AM

(Yung MRT North Avenue station dapat i-rename na Mindanao station, kasi nakakalito sya sobra)

hehe.. un ay kung government na ang may-ari.. pag naging link na ung 2 line, dapat tlaga i-rename.. tska mas malapit ang mrt north ave station sa mindanao kaya kesa sa north ave.

hiiamdib

March 31st, 2009, 03:49 AM

thanks sa mga nag post ng update pics, keep it em coming... mabuhay!

ionmarx

March 31st, 2009, 03:52 AM

hehe.. un ay kung government na ang may-ari.. pag naging link na ung 2 line, dapat tlaga i-rename.. tska mas malapit ang mrt north ave station sa mindanao kaya kesa sa north ave.

Di ba nga inextend pa ng mga Ayala para may Mindanao Ave. Ext. side yung kanilang Trinoma? :)

Or better yet rename it as Trinoma-Mindanao station and let Ayala improve the station facilities na bulok talaga! Ang sikip at hindi kaya i-accommodate yung surge ng tao sa tuwing may darating at aalis na tren kasi terminal station :(

bustero

March 31st, 2009, 04:17 AM

The most important thing about this in the shorter term is that they should be able to fast track the addition of coaches.

Also look for increase in fare since now the gov't can allow the mrtc to make money as they own most of it.

kalbongdad

March 31st, 2009, 05:15 AM

this time...mukhang advantageous kung government ang hahawak....dahil kung hindi ang profit motivation ng mrt3 walang magagawang pagbabago sa mrt3 dahil pugrot ang kumpanyang humahawak nito...mukhang hindi magaling...

RonnieR

March 31st, 2009, 05:19 AM

kalbongdad

March 31st, 2009, 05:36 AM

kala ko meron ng mga bagong post na pics on the beams siguro marami rami na rin nadagdag

adgaps

March 31st, 2009, 05:56 AM

hintay na lang muna tayo ng update pics... baka nadagdagan na yung beams...

venntro

March 31st, 2009, 07:09 AM

The most important thing about this in the shorter term is that they should be able to fast track the addition of coaches.

^^ That's the short term objective of the government... to increase the capacity of MRT. We should expect an additional coach per train before opening of classes. That would certainly help a lot to minimize sardine like crowds especially during rush hours.

Now if they can only improve the ingress and egress of commuters in the stations.

le Reine

March 31st, 2009, 07:12 AM

Finally! I am glad. This is long overdue.

Dreamtofly

March 31st, 2009, 07:30 AM

Wooow the buy out of the government is really indeed good news. Citizen will get benefit from it. Hope that the next step of the government should centralized the operation and to have a one ticket system.

I wish to see same government strategy in the next term. This current government indeed looks at their citizen and for the growth of the country and not politicking.

MABUHAY KA GLORIA

happosai

March 31st, 2009, 08:34 AM

Does that mean they can now interconnect LRT1 extension to MRT2?

kaelthas18

March 31st, 2009, 08:59 AM

Does that mean they can now interconnect LRT1 extension to MRT2?

bka mrt 3..hehe

they must test run first all 3 generations of lrt 1 trains thru the whole line of MRT..

kalbongdad

March 31st, 2009, 01:04 PM

Does that mean they can now interconnect LRT1 extension to MRT2?

bk mrt 3

han742

March 31st, 2009, 02:01 PM

31 March 2009
More beams in Monumento...
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/6997/img0210m.jpg (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0210m.jpg)

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9761/img0211cgo.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0211cgo.jpg)

:banana:

sushi___

March 31st, 2009, 02:16 PM

^ im really loving DMCI Fbalfour and LRT sa project na ito... ang bilis... sana ganito din sa Northrail... :ohno:

tonight

March 31st, 2009, 02:44 PM

MRT halts operations on Holy Week (http://mb.com.ph/articles/200967/mrt-halts-operations-holy-week)
By JC BELLO RUIZ
March 31, 2009, 6:58pm

Like the Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA), the Metro Rail Transit Line 3 on Epifanio delos Santos Avenue (EDSA) will also take a break this Holy Week from April 9 to 12 (Maundy Thursday to Easter Sunday).
The three-day break will be used by the railway system for its annual systems maintenance check --- taking advantage of the anticipated decreased ridership because of the usual trek of city-dwellers to the provinces for the long vacation.

The MRT3 serves the North Avenue, Quezon City-Taft Avenue, Pasay City route. The LRTA earlier announced that it will not operate from April 9 to April 12 to pave way for its annual Holy Week systems maintenance check.

The LRTA said it will suspend operations of both its Line 1 (Monumento, Caloocan-Baclaran, Parañaque) and Line 2 (Santolan, Pasig-Recto Ave., Manila ) on said dates.

On the other hand, the LRTA will also implement a shortened operation from April 6 to 8, Maria Kristina E. Cassion, LRTA Public Relations Chief said.

Instead of the usual up to 11 p.m. operating schedule, the following schedule would be followed by Line 1: Northbound (Baclaran-Monumento) – 5 a.m. – 9 p.m.; Southbound (Monumento- Baclaran)- 5 a.m. - 9:30 p.m.; and Line 2: Westbound (Santolan - Recto) – 5 a.m. - 9:30 p.m.; Eastbound (Recto-Santolan) – 5 a.m. – 10 p.m.

The LRT and the MRT systems will resume normal operation on Monday, April 13.

in_a_rush

March 31st, 2009, 02:54 PM

sana talaga ma-solve na yung over crowding at sobrang siksikan ng MRT3. sana more improvements on their stations.. do they have plans on extending it hanggang MOA? para mabawasan na yung mga jeeps on that area.. also do they have plans on connecting the Ortigas station to SM Megamall? medyo hassle kasi maglakad sa bangketa doon. sana may walkway directly going to SM. Sm can fund this project since they will benefit the most. :banana:

thescene

March 31st, 2009, 03:00 PM

If the government will buy new trains for MRT, it still has to go through the red tape which means it will be a while before we get to see them operational.

kaelthas18

March 31st, 2009, 03:12 PM

ako naman, i can't wait LRTA takeover the operations of the MRT 3 (MRTC and its owners), and even the logos of lrt will be visible along mrt stations

a.k.a. soon to be LRT 3 not anymore MRT (MEtro Rail Transit)...hehe, or if ever lrt 1 decided to launch its seamless travel from Baclaran to Taft then the so called "LIne 3" will be history because the 2 lines are merged to become LRT 1..haha

adgaps

March 31st, 2009, 04:35 PM

kapag talagang nagsama na ang LRT1 at MRT3, magiging super haba na yung LRT...

at syempre, mag-iimprove na ang MRT... at last... :banana::banana:

shamhoy

March 31st, 2009, 05:05 PM

I dont get it. Why is the govt buyout of the MRT a good thing? Where will the govt get the money to finance the maintenance of the MRT. Im sure it will be impossible for them to increase the fares since it will incur the ire of the average commuter.

kratos1211

March 31st, 2009, 05:41 PM

kaelthas18

March 31st, 2009, 06:17 PM

The government already pays for everything. because the MRT contract states that DOTC will guarantee and pay a fixed amount rental to MRT regardless of the number of ridership. The government already computed that if it owns MRT and pays for the loans itself. It will save $200+million till the end of the contract.

that $200 million eh pwede na pang bili ng bagong tren, rehabilitate MRT stations and tracks.. luge na nga ang government sa MRTC na yan eh.

Juan Pilgrim

March 31st, 2009, 07:15 PM

han742

March 31st, 2009, 07:23 PM

MRT halts operations on Holy Week (http://mb.com.ph/articles/200967/mrt-halts-operations-holy-week)
By JC BELLO RUIZ
March 31, 2009, 6:58pm
...
On the other hand, the LRTA will also implement a shortened operation from April 6 to 8, Maria Kristina E. Cassion, LRTA Public Relations Chief said.

Instead of the usual up to 11 p.m. operating schedule, the following schedule would be followed by Line 1: Northbound (Baclaran-Monumento) – 5 a.m. – 9 p.m.; Southbound (Monumento- Baclaran)- 5 a.m. - 9:30 p.m.; and Line 2: Westbound (Santolan - Recto) – 5 a.m. - 9:30 p.m.; Eastbound (Recto-Santolan) – 5 a.m. – 10 p.m.

The LRT and the MRT systems will resume normal operation on Monday, April 13.

hindi naman up to 11pm ang regular operation nyan, mga before 10 sarado na sila,:bash:

han742

March 31st, 2009, 07:26 PM

Thanks han742 for the photos.
Ang bilis ng construction, :okay:

:horse:

seryoso yata silang wag paabutin ng election ito, come May 2010, para hindi na mapulitika,:)

queetz@home

April 1st, 2009, 12:02 AM

Yup, nakita ko na rin yun dati sa previous thread. Posible nga raw. Kaso may tanong ako: Hindi ba mas malapad ang LRT1 LRVs kesa sa mga MRT3 LRVs? Parehong gauge sila so compatible yung pagtakbo sa riles, pero hindi kaya sa lapad nung LRT1 LRVs, kung mailink nga yung dalawang line physically, hindi kaya magka-issue sa collision sa takbo ng mga tren?

Maganda talagang matuloy yan, yung linking. Magandang ideya yan para sa mga commuter. Sino ba naman ang hindi matutuwa kung mula Taft Rotonda makakarating ka ng Caloocan nang hindi na nagpapalit pa ng sasakyan di ba???

(Yung MRT North Avenue station dapat i-rename na Mindanao station, kasi nakakalito sya sobra)

LRT1 LRVs are the approximately the same width as the MRT3 LRVs. Track gauges are also the same. I would presume overhead wires are also the same but even if they are not, the canterlevers are normally adjustable.

There has been speculation, including a recent article that rightfully bashes FF Cruz for its sour graping, indicating that MRT3 and LRT1 trains are incompatible for various reasons. Fact of the matter is both MRT3 and LRT1 LRVs are "off the shelf". You go to a manufacturer, pick and choose a model, pay for it, and they will ship it to your city and place them on your standardized track. There is absolutely nothing customized about them, and you can theoretically transfer an MRT3 or LRT1 car to one of many "off the shelf" rail lines in Europe, Asia and North America, and they would be able to service its passengers with no issues. Further absolutely proof of this compatibility is the fact that even MRT3 is seriously considering leasing the older 1G LRVs (i.e. Imelda Marcos era trainsets) from LRTA itself to help supplement its fleet.

The reasons for not connecting really is legal mumbo jumbo, especially with the ownership of the line. This is true not only for the MRT3 and LRT1 situations but to all rail lines, passenger, freight and so on, both publicly and privately owned. Its like you own your driveway, that could be physically connected to another person's driveway via a street. You cannot park your car in that other person's driveway without permission and if you do, you are tresspassing.

Given that the gov is only the majority owner of MRT3 now, there could still be some legal mumbo jumbo that can prevent it / LRTA from operating MRT3 or running its trains at MRT3 tracks and vice versa. The devil is in the details so we will only know for sure once the deal is done. But this breaking news does increase the possibility that the lines will physically connect, even if its just to have the ability to exchange trains from time to time on a pre-arranged, limited basis for various reasons (i.e. maintenance sharing, temporary borrowing to alleviate congestion, etc).

barrera_marquez

April 1st, 2009, 01:27 AM

LRT1 LRVs are the approximately the same width as the MRT3 LRVs. Track gauges are also the same. I would presume overhead wires are also the same but even if they are not, the canterlevers are normally adjustable.

There has been speculation, including a recent article that rightfully bashes FF Cruz for its sour graping, indicating that MRT3 and LRT1 trains are incompatible for various reasons. Fact of the matter is both MRT3 and LRT1 LRVs are "off the shelf". You go to a manufacturer, pick and choose a model, pay for it, and they will ship it to your city and place them on your standardized track. There is absolutely nothing customized about them, and you can theoretically transfer an MRT3 or LRT1 car to one of many "off the shelf" rail lines in Europe, Asia and North America, and they would be able to service its passengers with no issues. Further absolutely proof of this compatibility is the fact that even MRT3 is seriously considering leasing the older 1G LRVs (i.e. Imelda Marcos era trainsets) from LRTA itself to help supplement its fleet.

The reasons for not connecting really is legal mumbo jumbo, especially with the ownership of the line. This is true not only for the MRT3 and LRT1 situations but to all rail lines, passenger, freight and so on, both publicly and privately owned. Its like you own your driveway, that could be physically connected to another person's driveway via a street. You cannot park your car in that other person's driveway without permission and if you do, you are tresspassing.

Given that the gov is only the majority owner of MRT3 now, there could still be some legal mumbo jumbo that can prevent it / LRTA from operating MRT3 or running its trains at MRT3 tracks and vice versa. The devil is in the details so we will only know for sure once the deal is done. But this breaking news does increase the possibility that the lines will physically connect, even if its just to have the ability to exchange trains from time to time on a pre-arranged, limited basis for various reasons (i.e. maintenance sharing, temporary borrowing to alleviate congestion, etc).

E di kapag government na may-ari ng MRT-3 itutuloy na nito ang plano na MRT ang i-extend and not the LRT-1?

richard24

April 1st, 2009, 03:47 AM

hindi naman up to 11pm ang regular operation nyan, mga before 10 sarado na sila,:bash:

as far as i know LRT 2's operation is up until 11pm for eastbound. :) 10:30+ for westbound.

MRT3 ang maaga magsara. :(

Mithril Cloud

April 1st, 2009, 04:16 AM

LRT1 1G and MRT rolling stock at their homeland:

http://i40.tinypic.com/4jx6vm.jpg

http://prazsketramvaje.cz/obrazky/vozyosobni/rt8d5m-010.jpg

kaelthas18

April 1st, 2009, 05:33 AM

E di kapag government na may-ari ng MRT-3 itutuloy na nito ang plano na MRT ang i-extend and not the LRT-1?

hndi.. ksi naumpisahan na ang LRT north extension, the most possible way nlng pag Government na ang may-ari is baka maging tuloy2x na ang travel from Baclaran -taft ave .. Bka ung name ng MRT mapalitan na rin ng name into LRT Line 1 LOOP,(mawawala na ang LIne 3 ), kasi magiging isang buong line na lang na mahaba..

frequentflier

April 1st, 2009, 05:37 AM

http://prazsketramvaje.cz/obrazky/vozyosobni/rt8d5m-010.jpg[/QUOTE]

sana ganito kalinis tignan yung MRT. minsan kasi sirasira na yung ads na nakakabit eh,

boroyski

April 1st, 2009, 05:46 AM

han742 for the photos.
Ang bilis ng construction, :okay:

:horse:

oooops! hold your horses, hindi pa nagsisismula ang Package B and C.

Package A: DMCI-FB JV super bilis
Package B & C: Who are the contractors, is it DMCI-FB JV also?

I hope kung sino man ang contractor, kasing bilis din sana sila Packege A.

Anyway, great work by DMCI-First Balfour! :cheers:

brownislander

April 1st, 2009, 05:51 AM

Saan ito?

http://prazsketramvaje.cz/obrazky/vozyosobni/rt8d5m-010.jpg

sana ganito kalinis tignan yung MRT. minsan kasi sirasira na yung ads na nakakabit eh,[/QUOTE]

han742

April 1st, 2009, 05:57 AM

as far as i know LRT 2's operation is up until 11pm for eastbound. :) 10:30+ for westbound.

MRT3 ang maaga magsara. :(

LRT-1 pala yun maaga rin magsara halos kagaya ng sa MRT-3,:)

han742

April 1st, 2009, 06:03 AM

LRT1 1G and MRT rolling stock at their homeland:

http://i40.tinypic.com/4jx6vm.jpg

http://prazsketramvaje.cz/obrazky/vozyosobni/rt8d5m-010.jpg

sa ibang bansa ba ito kuha, maganda pala siyang tignan pag nasa original state siya, parang may disyerto sa pic sa ibaba,:)

brownislander

April 1st, 2009, 06:12 AM

Nice pa rin naman ang MRT ;-)

kaelthas18

April 1st, 2009, 06:27 AM

sa ibang bansa ba ito kuha, maganda pala siyang tignan pag nasa original state siya, parang may disyerto sa pic sa ibaba,:)

sa Czech Republic yan.. dun gawa yang MRT 3 eh.

boroyski

April 1st, 2009, 06:28 AM

sa Czech Republic yan.. dun gawa yang MRT 3 eh.

Yung stamp Made in Belgium ang nakalagay.

brownislander

April 1st, 2009, 06:35 AM

Baka inimport ng Belgium from Czech Republic hehe

ADDDDA

April 1st, 2009, 06:42 AM

Bakit yung LRT-1 1st generation train....may naka lagay na Vito Cruz kung sa ibang bansa?

Mithril Cloud

April 1st, 2009, 06:46 AM

LRT-1 1G trains were imported from Belgium while MRT-3 trains were imported from the Czech Republic.

ryanr

April 1st, 2009, 06:47 AM

Baka inimport ng Belgium from Czech Republic hehe

first gen LRT 1 LRVs are from Belgium while MRT 3's are from Czech Republic. nice pics, I've never seen those before

boroyski

April 1st, 2009, 06:52 AM

Bakit yung LRT-1 1st generation train....may naka lagay na Vito Cruz kung sa ibang bansa?

:bash:

RonnieR

April 1st, 2009, 06:55 AM

LRT1 1G and MRT rolling stock at their homeland:

http://i40.tinypic.com/4jx6vm.jpg

http://prazsketramvaje.cz/obrazky/vozyosobni/rt8d5m-010.jpg

Are they still using this kind of train? Why Vito Cruz? :)

Mithril Cloud

April 1st, 2009, 06:56 AM

More Tatra RT8D5M (MRT rolling stock) photos from the Czech Republic:

http://prazsketramvaje.cz/obrazky/vozyosobni/rt8d5m-01.jpg
http://prazsketramvaje.cz/obrazky/vozyosobni/rt8d5m-02.jpg
http://prazsketramvaje.cz/obrazky/vozyosobni/rt8d5m-03.jpg
http://prazsketramvaje.cz/obrazky/vozyosobni/rt8d5m-04.jpg
http://prazsketramvaje.cz/obrazky/vozyosobni/rt8d5m-05.jpg
http://prazsketramvaje.cz/obrazky/vozyosobni/rt8d5m-06.jpg
http://prazsketramvaje.cz/obrazky/vozyosobni/rt8d5m-07.jpg
http://prazsketramvaje.cz/obrazky/vozyosobni/rt8d5m-08.jpg
http://prazsketramvaje.cz/obrazky/vozyosobni/rt8d5m-09.jpg
http://prazsketramvaje.cz/obrazky/vozyosobni/rt8d5m-011.jpg
http://prazsketramvaje.cz/obrazky/vozyosobni/rt8d5m-012.jpg
http://prazsketramvaje.cz/obrazky/vozyosobni/rt8d5m-013.jpg
http://prazsketramvaje.cz/obrazky/vozyosobni/rt8d5m-014.jpg
http://prazsketramvaje.cz/obrazky/vozyosobni/rt8d5m-015.jpg

From: http://www.prazsketramvaje.cz/

Mithril Cloud

April 1st, 2009, 06:58 AM

Are they still using this kind of train? Why Vito Cruz? :)

They're most likely just testing signages. And since it's a promotional postcard it was probably added to make it obvious that the trains were going to Manila.

chris_nigel

April 1st, 2009, 07:28 AM

ayus yung testing area or what ever you call that parang nasa bicol lang ha..hehehe

kaelthas18

April 1st, 2009, 09:49 AM

Yung stamp Made in Belgium ang nakalagay.

ung MRT 3 sa Czech Republic gawa yan .. pumasok ka sa loob ng MRT nakasulat made in Czech republic.. and also look at the pic it comes from ****.cz... cz=czech republic..

bka ung LRT 1g trains ang Belgium gawa..

Sky Harbor

April 1st, 2009, 10:45 AM

boroyski

April 1st, 2009, 12:44 PM

ung MRT 3 sa Czech Republic gawa yan .. pumasok ka sa loob ng MRT nakasulat made in Czech republic.. and also look at the pic it comes from ****.cz... cz=czech republic..

bka ung LRT 1g trains ang Belgium gawa..

^^ First- and second-generation LRT-1 LRVs were made by current subsidiaries of Bombardier: the first by ACEC in Belgium, the second by Adtranz in South Korea.

Speaking of LRT-1 LRVs, the first-generation trains, seeing as they had no air-conditioning at the time, would have been quite comfortable in the Belgian climate, no?

Sorry hindi kc ako madalas makasakay ng MRT3 siguro mga wala pang 10 x ako nakasakay he he he!. LRT 2 nga hindi ko pa nagagamit eh.

Thanks for the clarification anyway.

oreotm

April 1st, 2009, 01:20 PM

tanong q lang po ung train po ba sa lrt2 pwede ipalit sa train ng mrt i mean if its possible..

kc ung mrt masikip ung sa loob pero sa lrt 2 super luwag...

thx...

Sky Harbor

April 1st, 2009, 02:07 PM

^^ Nope...MRT-2 trains are too wide to fit in the MRT-3 right of way.

oreotm

April 1st, 2009, 02:16 PM

^^ Nope...MRT-2 trains are too wide to fit in the MRT-3 right of way.

ah now i understand thx...

pero sana i renovate nlng nila ung train

gawin nila ung 1st carriage un lang ung may upuan for women, elders and disable tpos ung dalawa wla ng upuan at least mas maluwag ang space dba...

adgaps

April 1st, 2009, 02:29 PM

kanina nasakyan ko lahat ng lines...

LRT1 - mejo malamig sa loob... as usual...

MRT2 - maluwag nga, very modern-looking... da best...

MRT3 - pila pa lang alam ko na kung anong itsura sa loob... at ang init pa! kaasar...

dapat lahat ng susunod nilang gagawin na lines kagaya ng sa MRT2... or mas maganda pa dun...

happosai

April 1st, 2009, 03:24 PM

bka mrt 3..hehe

they must test run first all 3 generations of lrt 1 trains thru the whole line of MRT..

bk mrt 3

:lol:Pasensya.. Nakakalito kasi eh. Bat MRT3 agad? Asan ang MRT1 at MRT2?
Kung naka plano palang. San ilalagay yon?

LRT1 1G and MRT rolling stock at their homeland:

http://i40.tinypic.com/4jx6vm.jpg

http://prazsketramvaje.cz/obrazky/vozyosobni/rt8d5m-010.jpg

Pansin ko sa mga LRVs ng LRT at MRT, wala na yung mga cover sa gulong na gaya nyang nasa picture. Na alala ko dati nung wala pang aircon ang LRT meron pa nyang cover. Pati MRT dati nung bagong bukas may cover pa yun.

Tsaka sumama ang itsura nung 1G LRV ng LRT nung inilagay yung mga boxy aircon condenser sa bubong nya. Di man lang pinili yung aerodynamic ang itsura. Para energy efficient din. Parang yung nakakabit sa MRT.

Juan Pilgrim

April 1st, 2009, 03:49 PM

^^ First- and second-generation LRT-1 LRVs were made by current subsidiaries of Bombardier: the first by ACEC in Belgium, the second by Adtranz in South Korea.

Speaking of LRT-1 LRVs, the first-generation trains, seeing as they had no air-conditioning at the time, would have been quite comfortable in the Belgian climate, no?

In 10 years the PHILIPPINES will have the technology and the manufacturing
capabilities to produce our own trains!

And in 20 years we will be exporting Philippine Made trains to our neighbors in
the Asia/ Pacific Region.

:horse::horse:

brownislander

April 1st, 2009, 03:59 PM

For real? I wish...Para magka-trains na ang ibang parts of the country.

ionmarx

April 1st, 2009, 04:37 PM

In 10 years the PHILIPPINES will have the technology and the manufacturing
capabilities to produce our own trains!

And in 20 years we will be exporting Philippine Made trains to our neighbors in
the Asia/ Pacific Region.

:horse::horse:

Not to sound rude ha, or to be pessimistic about it (in fact I would love to see this happen), but where was this claim taken from? :)

Natuwa ako run sa postcard. Highly reminiscent of the times when LRT1 LRVs still didn't sport the current blue/yellow motif :D

As for the wheel covers, that was a minor detail na hindi ko agad napansin ha! Yeah they look better with those on.

As for the box-type airconditioning units, they do look a bit odd on top of LRT1 LRVs, but at least... MALAMIG SA LOOB!!! :banana:

barrera_marquez

April 1st, 2009, 04:38 PM

Wala kayong napapansin sa mga tren ng LRT-1 ngayon na 1G? Wala na yung cover ng gulong niya, ito ang comparison:

http://i40.tinypic.com/4jx6vm.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/52/140841644_ff4d1db1f3_b.jpg

richard24

April 1st, 2009, 04:41 PM

mas maganda sana kung may cover., sayang., :)

Mithril Cloud

April 1st, 2009, 04:50 PM

http://i41.tinypic.com/2a6oyvc.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/2d1214.jpg

brownislander

April 1st, 2009, 05:11 PM

Sa Manila na ba ito?

wheel of steel

April 1st, 2009, 05:21 PM

^^ Nope...MRT-2 trains are too wide to fit in the MRT-3 right of way.

MRT2 trains is almost a heavy railway coaches...

Mithril Cloud

April 1st, 2009, 05:25 PM

Sa Manila na ba ito?

Not sure from first photo but second one is obviously here.

Sky Harbor

April 1st, 2009, 05:29 PM

^^ The first picture is at the North Harbor, if I am correct. LRVs are being offloaded at the port to be delivered to Baclaran (?), though I'm not sure.

The second picture looks like it's near Gil Puyat station. The building in the background to me looks like Arellano University.

ADDDDA

April 1st, 2009, 05:43 PM

ano yung MRT-2?
yun din ba yung LRT-2? Santolan to Recto?

ionmarx

April 1st, 2009, 06:17 PM

^^ MRT2 = LRT2, depende if you're referring to the type of train (medium-rail, correct me if I'm wrong) or the "branding" (i.e., under sya ng LRTA) :)

Pwede rin tong mga to lahat sila pare-pareho:

PNR / Metrotren (correct me if I remember incorrectly) / Southrail / Orange Line
LRT1 / Metrorail / Yellow Line (Baclaran - Monumento, soon upto North EDSA)
LRT2 / MRT2 / Megatren / Purple Line (Recto - Santolan, Pasig)
MRT3 / Metrostar Express / Blue Line (Taft - Trinoma (technically hindi sya North Ave :p ))

Although yung tarp ng MMDA sa EDSA/Ortigas refers to MRT3 as "LRT Line 3"... Well...

:banana:

Napansin nyo pala yung pattern? Ibig bang sabihin MEGASTAR na ang alyas ng MRT7? :lol: :lol:

han742

April 1st, 2009, 07:32 PM

:lol:Pasensya.. Nakakalito kasi eh. Bat MRT3 agad? Asan ang MRT1 at MRT2?
Kung naka plano palang. San ilalagay yon?

Pansin ko sa mga LRVs ng LRT at MRT, wala na yung mga cover sa gulong na gaya nyang nasa picture. Na alala ko dati nung wala pang aircon ang LRT meron pa nyang cover. Pati MRT dati nung bagong bukas may cover pa yun.

Tsaka sumama ang itsura nung 1G LRV ng LRT nung inilagay yung mga boxy aircon condenser sa bubong nya. Di man lang pinili yung aerodynamic ang itsura. Para energy efficient din. Parang yung nakakabit sa MRT.

sa ngayon ito ang pagkakasunod, LRT-1, LRT-2, MRT-3, MRT-7 (future), ang iba ay binabalak o hindi na matutuloy, (walang MRT-1, MRT-2),
yung cover sa gulong ay inalis dahil sa practical reasons IMO,
i think kaya boxy ang aircon sa ibabaw eh para heavy duty na rin, imagine the length of time the train will run and the very hot temperature outside, i will go for the endurance not the looks in this case,:)

In 10 years the PHILIPPINES will have the technology and the manufacturing
capabilities to produce our own trains!

And in 20 years we will be exporting Philippine Made trains to our neighbors in
the Asia/ Pacific Region.

:horse::horse:

sana nga, sana nga...:banana:

Wala kayong napapansin sa mga tren ng LRT-1 ngayon na 1G? Wala na yung cover ng gulong niya, ito ang comparison:

mas maganda sana kung may cover., sayang., :)

i think pratical ang reasoning nila dito, maaaring para madaling makita kung may nagtatago o natutulog bang tao o anumang hayop sa ilalim eh mas madaling makita di ba, lalo na kapag ito ay nakagarahe sa depot, isa pa eh mas madaling makita kung may bomba o pampasabog bang nailagay sa ilalim, (isang hakbang din ito para hindi na maulit ang nangyari nuon na pagpasabog sa isang coach ng LRT-1 sa Blumentritt),

ano yung MRT-2?
yun din ba yung LRT-2? Santolan to Recto?

mas tama ang LRT-2, at LRT-1, ang MRT ay sa line 3 at future line 7,

^^ MRT2 = LRT2, depende if you're referring to the type of train (medium-rail, correct me if I'm wrong) or the "branding" (i.e., under sya ng LRTA) :)

Pwede rin tong mga to lahat sila pare-pareho:

PNR / Metrotren (correct me if I remember incorrectly) / Southrail / Orange Line
LRT1 / Metrorail / Yellow Line (Baclaran - Monumento, soon upto North EDSA)
LRT2 / MRT2 / Megatren / Purple Line (Recto - Santolan, Pasig)
MRT3 / Metrostar Express / Blue Line (Taft - Trinoma (technically hindi sya North Ave :p ))

Although yung tarp ng MMDA sa EDSA/Ortigas refers to MRT3 as "LRT Line 3"... Well...

:banana:

Napansin nyo pala yung pattern? Ibig bang sabihin MEGASTAR na ang alyas ng MRT7? :lol: :lol:

yes this is right, wag na yung MRT-2 or LRT-3...:cheers:

han742

April 1st, 2009, 07:43 PM

jefflacs

April 1st, 2009, 07:49 PM

yes this is right, wag na yung MRT-2 or LRT-3...:cheers:

I think sa pattern naman eh hinde na sinusunod kung MRT or LRT basta pang ilan line number sia sa plan regardless kung anong type niya (LRT or MRT).

Mithril Cloud

April 1st, 2009, 07:49 PM

They could just continue the color-coded naming scheme that was done with Gloria's SRTS.

han742

April 1st, 2009, 08:23 PM

I think sa pattern naman eh hinde na sinusunod kung MRT or LRT basta pang ilan line number sia sa plan regardless kung anong type niya (LRT or MRT).

pero kapag sinabi kasing MRT sa ngayon di ba ang pumapasok sa isip natin yung MRT-3,:) (or MRT-7)

They could just continue the color-coded naming scheme that was done with Gloria's SRTS.

yes, mas reliable ito,:)

kaelthas18

April 2nd, 2009, 12:57 AM

Sorry hindi kc ako madalas makasakay ng MRT3 siguro mga wala pang 10 x ako nakasakay he he he!. LRT 2 nga hindi ko pa nagagamit eh.

Thanks for the clarification anyway.

you should try it tol.. sayang din, experience din un.. before u ride trains abroad. Try first our own.

kaelthas18

April 2nd, 2009, 01:01 AM

http://i41.tinypic.com/2a6oyvc.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/2d1214.jpg

wala pa sinabi ang singapore dito nun..hehe..

I think kaya nila tinanggal ung cover ng wheels eh para makita nila kaagad kung may sira at madali i-repair,hndi na tatanggalin ung cover.. in short less trabaho na for the maintenance crew. .

kaelthas18

April 2nd, 2009, 01:06 AM

kaelthas18

April 2nd, 2009, 01:10 AM

very busy ngayon ang Monumento area, kanina pag uwi ko nakita ko ang apat na mahahabang beams na sakay ng magkakasunod na trailer trucks, ang hahaba sa kalsada, i think ngayong gabi na iyon iiinstall,
:banana::banana:

APril na eh... ung pag gawa ng stations at mga finishes wla pa.. 1 taon na lang baba na si gloria.. "kung ganun nga ang mangyayari":lol:

Mithril Cloud

April 2nd, 2009, 01:41 AM

wala pa sinabi ang singapore dito nun..hehe..

But when the Singapore MRT opened, they had heavy-rail trains and magnetic tickets, as opposed to the LRT's trams and tokens.

han742

April 2nd, 2009, 07:12 AM

APril na eh... ung pag gawa ng stations at mga finishes wla pa.. 1 taon na lang baba na si gloria.. "kung ganun nga ang mangyayari":lol:

yup, APRIL pa lang at sa bilis ng phasing nila at dami ng workers at gamit who knows kung matatapos ba ito o hindi by 2010, especially may nakaset na deadline, kasiraan naman ito sa kumpanya pag hindi na meet ang deadline diba?:banana::banana:

I think kaya nila tinanggal ung cover ng wheels eh para makita nila kaagad kung may sira at madali i-repair,hndi na tatanggalin ung cover.. in short less trabaho na for the maintenance crew. .

hindi naman yata ganun kadalas masiraan sa ilalim para kailangan pang tanggalin ang takip nito,:) i think its more of a security reason, kaya nga hinahalukay ang mga bag natin kung may mga bagay na bawal para hindi payagan dalhin sa loob eh, tapos sa tren mismo may nakalagay na pala sa ilalim nito kung hindi makikita dahil sa takip,:)

venntro

April 2nd, 2009, 07:22 AM

LRT1 1G and MRT rolling stock at their homeland:

http://i40.tinypic.com/4jx6vm.jpg

^^ That's odd, the signage says Vito Cruz although we all know that it's not in Manila.

Mithril Cloud

April 2nd, 2009, 07:30 AM

Maybe the people in Belgium think otherwise.

han742

April 2nd, 2009, 07:36 AM

^^ That's odd, the signage says Vito Cruz although we all know that it's not in Manila.

i thought of it at first but maybe they have included the printing of the names of the stations with the train prior to shipment, look at the photo being pulled up at the pier, it has the name Abad Santos on it, but they haven't used these names anyway because it would mean changing the names from time to time every station,:)

happosai

April 2nd, 2009, 08:03 AM

i thought of it at first but maybe they have included the printing of the names of the stations with the train prior to shipment, look at the photo being pulled up at the pier, it has the name Abad Santos on it, but they haven't used these names anyway because it would mean changing the names from time to time every station,:)

Ngayon makikita mo na lang na nakalagay dyan ay "SPECIAL" at "TEST" :bash:

Manila-X

April 2nd, 2009, 08:17 AM

MRT2 trains is almost a heavy railway coaches...

They are heavy rail coaches. They have the same size of HK's MTR except it has a 4 car config. BKK's BTS system only has a 3 car config on their system and so is the Red Line of LA's subway system.

Honestly its hard to distinguish which is light rail, medium or heavy.

Just an example,

MTR
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/TCL.JPG

Taipei MRT
http://www.citycat.hdud.idv.tw/tpmrt/mrt33.jpg

Which is bigger/broader?

brownislander

April 2nd, 2009, 04:17 PM

But when the Singapore MRT opened, they had heavy-rail trains and magnetic tickets, as opposed to the LRT's trams and tokens.

Look at Singapore now.
They are in the top 5 of the least corrupt countries in the world.

Mojacko

April 2nd, 2009, 06:27 PM

http://prazsketramvaje.cz/obrazky/vozyosobni/rt8d5m-012.jpg

From: http://www.prazsketramvaje.cz/

If I didn't know any better this could have been at the then-newly-built MRT depot on North Avenue, near its corner with EDSA (before TriNoMa was built over it!). :lol:

By the way, Mithril Cloud, how did you know where in http://www.prazsketramvaje.cz/ to look for these cool shots of the MRT? I tried visiting the site myself, to try to find them, but NOT A SINGLE link in the site's navigation is in English! Any help on this will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.... (and also for sharing the shots here on SkyscraperCity)... :)

venntro

April 3rd, 2009, 04:43 AM

Foreign firm withdraws Metro Rail Transit suit (http://http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=business2_april2_2009)
By Eileen A. Mencias

Elliott Associates has withdrawn the arbitration case it filed against the Philippines over the Metro Rail Transit project, an informed source said yesterday.

Elliott Associates is one of three major groups that have substantial interest in the MRT project along Edsa, in which the government is acquiring as much as 76 percent.

“By withdrawing the case, it tells you that they are no longer interested in pursuing it,” the source said. “And without a hostile owner, government can now properly upgrade and improve MRT.”

Goldman Sachs and the Ashmore group are the other two with substantial interest in the MRT project.

Goldman Sachs (Asia) Finance bought Ayala Land Inc.’s redeemable preferred shares in Astoria Investment Ventures Inc., representing a 15.79 percent indirect beneficial interest in Metro Rail Transit Corp.

Ashmore, which is listed in the London Stock Exchange, has been active in the Philippines, taking over Petron Corp. last year.

Government sources said Elliott Associates, Goldman Sachs and Ashmore were selling their stake in the project.

“People are going back to cash and it’s no different with them,” the source said.

Development Bank of the Philippines president Reynaldo David said in a briefing Monday that the government would purchase a 76-percent stake Metro Rail Transit this month.

Banking sources said the purchase alone of asset-backed securities of Metro Rail Transit would cost the government $700 million to $800 million.

The government is buying shares and bonds in Metro Rail Transit to take over the project through DBP and Land Bank of the Philippines.

edly

April 3rd, 2009, 04:52 AM

edly

April 3rd, 2009, 04:59 AM

very busy ngayon ang Monumento area, kanina pag uwi ko nakita ko ang apat na mahahabang beams na sakay ng magkakasunod na trailer trucks, ang hahaba sa kalsada, i think ngayong gabi na iyon iiinstall,
:banana::banana:

At nang mapadaan naman ako kahapon diyan may mga workers na naghuhukay na rin sa bored pits sa Mercury Monumento. It means sisiumlan na nila ang Pagtayo ng poste para makonekta na sa existing Line 1.

Mithril Cloud

April 3rd, 2009, 05:35 AM

By the way, Mithril Cloud, how did you know where in http://www.prazsketramvaje.cz/ to look for these cool shots of the MRT? I tried visiting the site myself, to try to find them, but NOT A SINGLE link in the site's navigation is in English! Any help on this will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.... (and also for sharing the shots here on SkyscraperCity)... :)

I stumbled upon it while looking for information about the MRT trainsets using RT8D5M as the keyword.

http://www.prazsketramvaje.cz/view.php?cisloclanku=2006041014

absinthe_888

April 3rd, 2009, 05:40 AM

Maybe B-O-T is no cure all (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=454634&publicationSubCategoryId=66)
DEMAND AND SUPPLY
By Boo Chanco Updated April 03, 2009 12:00 AM

Government, through the DBP and the Land Bank, has bought control of the EDSA MRT. The GFIs are increasing their combined shareholdings in MRTC to 76 percent by the end of the month from 56 percent now, and that would increase the government’s board seats in the company to ten from six.

Both banks started acquiring shares in MRTC in December, when they bought 26 percent, and eventually increased that to 56 percent in February. What looks like a reverse privatization move will actually benefit the riding public. The MRT had long been aching for additional investments to increase capacity and improve maintenance but the funds are not forthcoming from the private investors.

The problem with the MRT is that government guaranteed the investors a 15 percent return. Because government does not have the nerve to increase fares, it ends up paying a hefty sum in subsidy to the investors. Government’s usual cash problems have prevented it from making up to date payments and the delinquency has led to arbitration cases being filed by the MRT Consortium in Singapore and in Washington. Maybe, this buy out by the GFIs solves those cases.

They should have thought of doing this some years back. The Filipino taxpayer has spent a bundle on MRT subsidies to guarantee the profits of the private sector investors. The service to commuters could have also been upgraded sooner. In a sense, the MRT seems to indicate that there are some services that should remain with government. Mass transit systems all over the world are usually government.

Besides, the MRT B-O-T proposal had been plagued with problems and questions from the start. It would seem that the only one who really made money on the deal with no money risked was a glib-talking early proponent with a well connected network in government and local big time investors. And he was out of it by the time they were breaking ground.

It also seemed that government was being cooked in its own fat, so to speak with the sovereign guarantee of the consortium’s loan and the subsidy to guarantee the 15 percent return to the investors. Government is also running the system which leaves the question, what did the private sector really contribute to the deal?

This is why I don’t think Finance Secretary Gary Teves should sound too apologetic for this seeming reverse privatization. “This will only be temporary because eventually we’ll dispose of the shares,” Teves said, “we don’t want to be involved in the business, and we will go back to privatizing it again.”

Gary should take his time privatizing it again. Before he does that, he must make sure there is a benefit to the taxpayers and the commuters. He must sit back and learn the lessons from this unfortunate B-O-T experience that led him to eventually do the right thing: undertake a government buyout of the MRT consortium’s build-lease-transfer contract for the rail transit system.

I understand that when government finally decided to bite the bullet, it was estimated that government would be paying $865 million for the remainder of the contract while realizing savings of up to $380 million. It is a case of a B-O-T gone wrong. The B-O-T deal for the MRT was conceived as a good way of financing a key infrastructure project with little or no funds from the government. That didn’t happen.

MRTC, the private company awarded the B-O-T contract, is majority owned by a holding company, MRT Holdings Inc., a consortium that originally consisted of Ayala Land Inc., Anglo Philippines Holding Corp., Fil-Estate Management Inc., Ramcar Inc., and Greenfield Development Corp. Some of the original shareholders divested from the holding firm and sold their shares to fund managers. It was simply a money deal for them with no commitment for the service MRT was supposed to provide. After the consortium members milked the project of such benefits as the MRT stops at their malls, their interest in the service vanished and the commuters suffered.

Now the government can start investing in an upgrade of the 16.9-kilometer system running from North Triangle in Quezon City to Taft Avenue in Pasay City. They can buy more coaches to reduce the waiting time and accommodate more commuters during rush hours. At its peak during the Christmas holidays, MRT 3 was reportedly ferrying 27,000 passengers per hour in one direction. The government would also save at least P5.7 billion in annual subsidies to keep fares low while paying the guaranteed 15-percent return on investment to shareholders.

Before more mass transit system BOT proposals are approved, government should let the public know the lessons from the MRT 3 experience so that the taxpayers will at least benefit from the high tuition fee that was paid on their behalf. B-O-T isn’t for everything, it seems.

adgaps

April 3rd, 2009, 05:44 AM

any update pics poh for the North Extension?

baka dumami na ang mga beams...

han742

April 3rd, 2009, 06:05 AM

More Tatra RT8D5M (MRT rolling stock) photos from the Czech Republic:

http://prazsketramvaje.cz/obrazky/vozyosobni/rt8d5m-06.jpg

http://prazsketramvaje.cz/obrazky/vozyosobni/rt8d5m-014.jpg

From: http://www.prazsketramvaje.cz/

If I didn't know any better this could have been at the then-newly-built MRT depot on North Avenue, near its corner with EDSA (before TriNoMa was built over it!). :lol:

By the way, Mithril Cloud, how did you know where in http://www.prazsketramvaje.cz/ to look for these cool shots of the MRT? I tried visiting the site myself, to try to find them, but NOT A SINGLE link in the site's navigation is in English! Any help on this will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.... (and also for sharing the shots here on SkyscraperCity)... :)

I think I would disagree with you Mojacko that these shots were taken from Quezon City in North Ave. Mithril already noted that these photos were taken from the Czech Republic and also because there are no houses nor vehicles on the sides except trees, and the coaches on the top picture still has the transporter with the Czech language (which I think were not included in the package IMO),:)

Sky Harbor

April 3rd, 2009, 06:22 AM

^^ He said "If I didn't know any better..." :D

han742

April 3rd, 2009, 06:25 AM

^^oo nga naman,:lol: sorry po tao lang,:lol:

flip2_0

April 3rd, 2009, 06:27 AM

le Reine

April 3rd, 2009, 06:35 AM

^^Remember the news that they're accusing of government buying "unneccesary" coaches? Wala daw kasing rail pero bumili ng trains. Now that's the answer to their stupid accusations.

flip2_0

April 3rd, 2009, 07:05 AM

^^Remember the news that they're accusing of government buying "unneccesary" coaches? Wala daw kasing rail pero bumili ng trains. Now that's the answer to their stupid accusations.

You got that right!

Besides, they're adding 3-4 more stations for the LRT North Extension project so its definitely not "unnecessary" even without the majority stake in MRTC.

Mojacko

April 3rd, 2009, 09:39 AM

I stumbled upon it while looking for information about the MRT trainsets using RT8D5M as the keyword.

http://www.prazsketramvaje.cz/view.php?cisloclanku=2006041014

Yes I've found it. Thanks, Mithril Cloud! :)

boroyski

April 3rd, 2009, 10:30 AM

[QUOTE=le Reine;34588148]^^Remember the news that they're accusing of government buying "unneccesary" coaches? Wala daw kasing rail pero bumili ng trains. Now that's the answer to their stupid accusations.[/QUOTE

Talangka talaga yang mga taong ganyan. Ayaw yata nla ng kaunlaran.

sushi___

April 3rd, 2009, 10:32 AM

from LRTA website

Project Status (as of 31 March 2009)
1. Package A1, A2 & B - DMFB Joint Venture

Actual Accomplishment
Package A1 29.69%
Package A2 31.12%
Package B 8.41%

2. Package C (Revised)

* Design and interface activities

3. EMS-1: Signaling.

* Direct Contracting Stage >>> UMUSAD NA ITO, dati DESIGN Activity lang

4. EMS-2: Telecommunications

* Design and interface activities

5. EMS-3: AFC

* Design and interface activities

6. EMS-4: Track Works

* Design and interface activities

Reference sa Project

Package A: Construction of Viaduct and Pedestrian Overpasses

Package A1 (km 15.133 to km 17.870) (Caloocan to Balintawak Area)...... P 1.398B

Package A2 (km 17.870 to km 20.614) (Balintawak to Trinoma Area)....... P 1.402B

Package B: Construction of Stations and Station Modifications .. P 0.83B

Package C: Electro-Mechanical Works .................................... P 2.04B

phichanad

April 3rd, 2009, 12:19 PM

http://prazsketramvaje.cz/obrazky/vozyosobni/rt8d5m-010.jpg

I showed this pic to my friend here in Dubai, sabi ko, "Pre yung MRT sa EDSA, may biyahe na papuntang Nueva Ecija (his province)....paniwalang paniwala eh hehehehehe!!!

adgaps

April 3rd, 2009, 01:11 PM

I showed this pic to my friend here in Dubai, sabi ko, "Pre yung MRT sa EDSA, may biyahe na papuntang Nueva Ecija (his province)....paniwalang paniwala eh hehehehehe!!!

haha!! ayos yan ah...

lagot ka kapag umuwi yun at hinanap nya yan sa probinsya nila... hehe...

kaelthas18

April 3rd, 2009, 01:48 PM

LRT BEAM UPDATE april 3,2009

Aproaching Muñoz (photo taken going to NORTH)
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/kaelthas18/dsds010.jpg

concrete pouring
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/kaelthas18/dsds011.jpg

JAC-distileria area (ung may billboard ni RR) there are 2 spans of beams already(photo taken going to NORTH)
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/kaelthas18/dsds012.jpg

In Front of Family Wet and Dry Market there is a span of beam (photo taken going to NORTH)
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/kaelthas18/dsds013.jpg

MCU-Monumento Area there are already 6 spans of beams

(photo taken going to South) 1 span
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/kaelthas18/dsds016.jpg

in front of MCU Main Entrance 2 span
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/kaelthas18/d003.jpg

(photo taken going to NORTH) in front of MCU Gym 3 span
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/kaelthas18/dsds017.jpg

^^ another pic of this beam
(photo taken going to South)
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/kaelthas18/dsds015.jpg

Beam connection (photo taken from the overpass near MCU)
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/kaelthas18/dsds014.jpg