You got that right, and before they built the MRT they were saying these stations wouldn't be eyesores.

^^ Actually although pangit talaga ang itsura ng MRT stations sa labas, they are indeed modern looking on the inside in fairness.

The present coaches of LRT-1 can still serve the entire line including the extension without adding their numbers.

Nakakatakot yan. Baka pagdating ng Blumentritt station wala nang makapasok sa loob ng tren.

pangit talaga ang station designs ng mrt3....avoid launching huge projects with limited minds...ganyan ang output...

Nakakatakot yan. Baka pagdating ng Blumentritt station wala nang makapasok sa loob ng tren.

The LRT-1 capacity is 1,000,000+ and presently 500,000+ lang ang ridership. In order to let the people ride the trains from Blumentritt, they skip the trains na medyo frustrating sa mga nasa Monumento up to Abad Santos pero hulog naman ng langit for succeeding stations.

yan ang napapala pag minamadali...yan ang istayl of leadership ni erap....although fvr project to....para mapadali...pinilit na ibahin ang design..kaya pati dun sa taft station na dapat elevated naging at grade...para mapabilis at ang ginawa pinalitan ng fly-over....papuntang tramo....:bash:

Wonder if it's possible to extend it all the way to MOA (SM to SM hehe), or to the proposed PAGCOR City. I just want to take a train ride and go down where I want to go to without having to take a ride on a stupid jeepney or taxi or getting my shoes and socks wet in the rain, is that too much to ask for? :)

Wonder if it's possible to extend it all the way to MOA (SM to SM hehe), or to the proposed PAGCOR City. I just want to take a train ride and go down where I want to go to without having to take a ride on a stupid jeepney or taxi or getting my shoes and socks wet in the rain, is that too much to ask for? :)

Possible pero in order to get past LRT-1, they would have to continue the at-grade portion past Taft Avenue.

^^ And that's not going to be easy, esp. with the current situation there. Right now sobrang traffic na nga di ba.

The LRT-1 capacity is 1,000,000+ and presently 500,000+ lang ang ridership. In order to let the people ride the trains from Blumentritt, they skip the trains na medyo frustrating sa mga nasa Monumento up to Abad Santos pero hulog naman ng langit for succeeding stations.

Pero bakit ang mga trains na nagsasakay sa Monumento, pagdating sa Blumentritt ay puno na agad?

Possible pero in order to get past LRT-1, they would have to continue the at-grade portion past Taft Avenue.

Posibleng mangyari yan. Since sarado naman yung part na yon ng Taft Avenue. Problema lang baka mas lumayo ang U-Turn slot.

Possible pero in order to get past LRT-1, they would have to continue the at-grade portion past Taft Avenue.

they can replan the station.. and putting the tracks below the ground.. nagdrawing na ako dati ng sketch nyan.. that is more alternative .. tulad sya ng buendia station of the mRt3.. nasa ilalim ang tracks.. bale open pa rin ang taft.. malaking aberya yan pag sinarahan so better put the track below the ground.. sa construction matagal yan pero pag naitayo naman ok na.. much better itong style kesa elevated or at grade.. pag at grade sobrang sikip nyan sir.

Pero bakit ang mga trains na nagsasakay sa Monumento, pagdating sa Blumentritt ay puno na agad?



Posibleng mangyari yan. Since sarado naman yung part na yon ng Taft Avenue. Problema lang baka mas lumayo ang U-Turn slot.

pangit isara ang taft... at kulang na kulang ang width ng edsa pag at grade pa yan.. so better dig the whole area.

pwde maging ganito ang taft to avoid the at grade design para hndi na ma sira ang Pasay Rotonda.. nasira na nga ito dahil sa LRT 1 dati sisisrain pa ba natin ito by puting an at grade tracks???

here's my sketch

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Would it be feasible to turn Taft Avenue station fully underground and eliminate the structure above it?

^^ If that happens, that would allow for seamless connectivity with LRT-1. However, that will entail closing a very large stretch of EDSA and Taft since a lot of digging will be involved.

(For that matter, why don't we put EDSA station underground too?)

Taft Avenue at Pasay is too cramped for that.

^^

I think going underground would be better, however it might be below sea level already and there might be some drainage problems.

By the way, there's a spur going to Ayala Ave near the Ayala station, are there still plans of an underground MRT at the Makati CBD?

None that we know of.

^^

I think going underground would be better, however it might be below sea level already and there might be some drainage problems.

By the way, there's a spur going to Ayala Ave near the Ayala station, are there still plans of an underground MRT at the Makati CBD?

A "Makati-Fort Monorail" would work wonders on Ayala Avenue. They just need to convert some of the underpasses (like Ayala-Paseo and Ayala-Dela Costa) into stations.

i think it would be best to leave this monorail project to the ayalas and not wait for the government to act.

Pero bakit ang mga trains na nagsasakay sa Monumento, pagdating sa Blumentritt ay puno na agad?



Posibleng mangyari yan. Since sarado naman yung part na yon ng Taft Avenue. Problema lang baka mas lumayo ang U-Turn slot.

5th Avenue, R. Papa and Abad Santos also have lots of passengers.

pangit isara ang taft... at kulang na kulang ang width ng edsa pag at grade pa yan.. so better dig the whole area.

Once they dig, panibagong traffic iyan but the wait will be totally worth it. Dahil sa lack of planning ayon, nagkakaproblema tuloy tayong mga urban planners.

The LRT-1 capacity is 1,000,000+ and presently 500,000+ lang ang ridership. In order to let the people ride the trains from Blumentritt, they skip the trains na medyo frustrating sa mga nasa Monumento up to Abad Santos pero hulog naman ng langit for succeeding stations.

This is not the way to run the train as a mass transit. Upon the arrival of the train into the last station, the turn around is about 3 - 5 minutes to do passenger run for the opposite direction. Motorman and conductor should be ready to take hold of the arriving train in minutes as soon as it discharged its brake handle and unloaded the passengers. This way, no stations will be skipped due to fast turn around.

The other solution is color coded the train of the same line indicating it will skip stations at interval and stops only at express station stop.

The other alternative is every other train will skip odd number station and the other color coded train stops at even number stations.

This way the passengers do not have to keep on guessing if this arriving train will stop or skip the station they are at.:ohno:

This is being done now in NYC subway serving 5 million pax a day.

^^

I think going underground would be better, however it might be below sea level already and there might be some drainage problems.

By the way, there's a spur going to Ayala Ave near the Ayala station, are there still plans of an underground MRT at the Makati CBD?

Underground subways is very expensive propositions. It needs a lot of government subsidies. Here are the things to consider.
1. drainage from leaking walls. Its almost impossible to waterproof the walls of the tunnel. one of three water pump running constantly.
2. Rat infestation due to some passengers throwing food and leftover into the track instead of into the garbage cans.
3. track fire, due to grease and oil falling from the train cause by brake sparks as train make a stop or slow down.
4. some homeless people used some small space as home, in the by-way of the tracks. or vandalism and thievery.
5. Repairs of the infrastructures.
6. Constant track lighting 24/7 just in case of train breakdown or emergency and people have to walk the filthy tracks due to steel dust cause by friction between rails and train wheels and other debris.:ohno:

While the above ground train, you have only the #5 the rest is minor.

This is not the way to run the train as a mass transit. Upon the arrival of the train into the last station, the turn around is about 3 - 5 minutes to do passenger run for the opposite direction. Motorman and conductor should be ready to take hold of the arriving train in minutes as soon as it discharged its brake handle and unloaded the passengers. This way, no stations will be skipped due to fast turn around.

The other solution is color coded the train of the same line indicating it will skip stations at interval and stops only at express station stop.

The other alternative is every other train will skip odd number station and the other color coded train stops at even number stations.

This way the passengers do not have to keep on guessing if this arriving train will stop or skip the station they are at.:ohno:

This is being done now in NYC subway serving 5 million pax a day.

Ganito ang system ng skipping trains ng LRT:

Supposedly may isang tren na huminto sa Monumento station, ang susunod na train ay hindi magsasakay sa Monumento kundi sa susunod na full-capacity station (say 5th Avenue) pagkatapos noon ang susunod na train ay magsasakay na sa Monumento - in short, alternate skipping train system at once na nagsakay sila sa isang station ang tren ay hihinto na sa lahat ng susunod na station.

^^ i often experience that skipping system ng LRT...

sa 5th ave. kasi ako sumasakay, Baclaran-bound... minsan may mga lumalampas sa 5th ave. station na empty trains... ibig sabihin, hindi rin huminto sa Monumento...

somehow maganda rin yun dahil nababawasan ang overcrowding sa mga stations na marami nang naghihintay na passengers..

Underground subways is very expensive propositions. It needs a lot of government subsidies. Here are the things to consider.
1. drainage from leaking walls. Its almost impossible to waterproof the walls of the tunnel. one of three water pump running constantly.
2. Rat infestation due to some passengers throwing food and leftover into the track instead of into the garbage cans.
3. track fire, due to grease and oil falling from the train cause by brake sparks as train make a stop or slow down.
4. some homeless people used some small space as home, in the by-way of the tracks. or vandalism and thievery.
5. Repairs of the infrastructures.
6. Constant track lighting 24/7 just in case of train breakdown or emergency and people have to walk the filthy tracks due to steel dust cause by friction between rails and train wheels and other debris.:ohno:

While the above ground train, you have only the #5 the rest is minor.

^ add to these the very long years of construction, especially when its raining, construction site is always flooded. its so easy to speak of the beauty of subways but so many problems arise compared to aboveground, especially when the area is below sea level already,:)

Underground subways is very expensive propositions. It needs a lot of government subsidies. Here are the things to consider.
1. drainage from leaking walls. Its almost impossible to waterproof the walls of the tunnel. one of three water pump running constantly.
2. Rat infestation due to some passengers throwing food and leftover into the track instead of into the garbage cans.
3. track fire, due to grease and oil falling from the train cause by brake sparks as train make a stop or slow down.
4. some homeless people used some small space as home, in the by-way of the tracks. or vandalism and thievery.
5. Repairs of the infrastructures.
6. Constant track lighting 24/7 just in case of train breakdown or emergency and people have to walk the filthy tracks due to steel dust cause by friction between rails and train wheels and other debris.:ohno:

While the above ground train, you have only the #5 the rest is minor.

If you're coming from the North going to the Ayala Station, before you reach the station you will see on the right that there is a tunnel heading towards Ayala Ave. They must have had plans to develop an underground system at the Makati CBD. :dunno:

If you're coming from the North going to the Ayala Station, before you reach the station you will see on the right that there is a tunnel heading towards Ayala Ave. They must have had plans to develop an underground system at the Makati CBD. :dunno:

Baka hindi natuloy kasi natayo na ang EDSA tunnel.

Baka hindi natuloy kasi natayo na ang EDSA tunnel.

I think its before the EDSA Tunnel... but anyway, it would have been convenient if there were trains running under Makati

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share ko lang... hehehe excited na ako kung matapos lahat ng project!!!:banana:

^^Don't forget to count in the MRT8 and LRT2 east extension on the map. :)

daming line....dapat ilagay na lahat yan sa underground....

para magkaroon ng express run mula monumento to taft and vice versa eh magkaroon ng dedicated 3rd rail. ang hirap kasi kung gagamitin ang switches papunta sa kabilang lane, pede sana un kung sobrang HIGPIT ng time schedule para matantsa kung kailan dadaan yung train sa kabilang lane. di ba?

^^Maganda sana yan pero saan naman kaya iyon ilalagay? Masikip na kasi sa Manila. I think, PNR-commuter rail will help on this event though not as fast as LRT.

30 minutes daw ang pagitan ng trains sa night shift ng mrt.

Sana sa future expansion or extending sa mga train line, kailangan magkaruon na middle track para express line service. Ang takbo sa express train service galing sa residential area patungo sa officina direction. Pag hapon mula 2 PM reverse direction naman ang express service.

Kapag maganda ang service sa mga train at ang time gap between train maiksi, palagay ko maraming hindi magkokotse patungo sa trabaho. Kailangan magtatayo din nang multi level parking lot malapit sa train station nga long term parking. Isa sa incentive nga mag train ang mga tao. This is what New York is doing in the outer boroughs, away from Manhattan. :)

30 minutes daw ang pagitan ng trains sa night shift ng mrt.

30 minutes subrang haba na waiting time. 20 minutes delicado na mamug na a tao. Makatulog nang saglit at sisusurvey na sa mugger and tao, ayon lagut.

Sa night time waiting area sa station platforms, magkaroon nang designated waiting area at may CCTV camera hook-up sa main security station at naka recorded din, at naka stored ang video for 30 days.

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share ko lang... hehehe excited na ako kung matapos lahat ng project!!!:banana:

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SUBUKAN LANG NILA!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

paano kung may pumalag? obviously hinde matutupad lahat yan

LRT 1 south extension cost shoots up (http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2009/june/02/yehey/business/20090602bus4.html)
Manila Times (http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2009/june/02/yehey/business/20090602bus4.html)

THE construction cost of the proposed southbound extension of the Philippines’ first Light Rail Transit (LRT) rose more than three-fold, according to the Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA).

The state-run agency said the planned extension to Cavite of LRT Line 1 would now cost $1.78 billion, up from the previous $683 million.

“The revised project cost includes the light rail vehicle [LRV] requirements on account of the Line 1 North Extension Project and the System Enhancement Works of the entire line during the 40-year concession period,” LRTA said.

The LRTA earlier awarded the construction of the LRT 1 North Extension Project to the joint venture of D.M. Consunji Inc. and First Balfour. Costing about P6.3 billion, the project involves the construction of a 5.71-kilometer elevated line seamlessly from the Monumento station of Line 1 to the North Avenue station of Line 3.

The LRT North Extension Project is scheduled for completion by February next year.

The LRTA also recommended to the National Economic and Development Authority the use of official development assistance (ODA) for the implementation of the South Extension Project.

The project aims to extend the existing 15-kilometer LRT 1 by an additional 11.7 kilometers, of which about 10.5 kilometers will be elevated and 1.2 kilometers will be at-grade.

The extension will start from the existing line’s last station at Baclaran and will traverse the cities of Parañaque and Las Piñas in Metro Manila and reach the municipality of Bacoor, Cavite. The project will include eight new passenger stations, with provision for two additional future stations. It is expected to serve 800,000 passengers a day and cut travel time from Bacoor to Monumento, Caloocan City, to less than an hour.

The project will also involve system enhancement works over the concession period, which would include fleets upgrade, replacement and capacity improvements. A total of 64 LRVs will be added in 2020 and another eight in 2030. -- Darwin G. Amojelar (http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2009/june/02/yehey/business/20090602bus4.html)

Edsa light rail begins 24-hour operations (http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=news2_june1_2009)
Manila Standard (http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=news2_june1_2009)
By Roderick T. dela Cruz

THE Metro Rail Transit Line 3 running along Edsa starts 24-hour operations today, a most welcome news to the thousands of night-shift call center personnel in Makati, Ortigas, and Cubao.

MRT 3 general manager Reynaldo Berroya said trains would operate at five-minute intervals between 11 p.m. and 5:30 a.m.

He said the 24-hour operation was on a trial stage, and they would adjust train intervals and staff deployment depending on demand.

For today’s initial graveyard shift, MRT will deploy 23 tellers, four train drivers, and enough security in each of the line’s 13 stations.

President Arroyo ordered MRT’s operations beyond 11 p.m. at the requests of call center agents and employees of business process outsourcing firms.

Berroya said call centers changed shifts at midnight and at 4 a.m., when most of the passenger buses and jeepneys had stopped plying their routes.

There are close to 900 call centers and BPO firms in Metro Manila, with 300 having offices in Makati.

The industry employs 400,000 people, and of whom 90 percent are based in Metro Manila.

Yesterday was really bad at the MRT where northbound platforms at Ayala were full. Despite plenty of trains lined up against each other southbound, the northbound trains took 10 minutes each to arrive.

Lines are quite unpredictable at rush hour.

As I said, the kind of trains they designed are just wrong - they are too narrow.

Wala kayang plano sumunod ang LRTA dito? Kahit "experimental" lang rin :lol:



Edsa light rail begins 24-hour operations (http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=news2_june1_2009)
Manila Standard (http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=news2_june1_2009)
By Roderick T. dela Cruz

THE Metro Rail Transit Line 3 running along Edsa starts 24-hour operations today, a most welcome news to the thousands of night-shift call center personnel in Makati, Ortigas, and Cubao.

MRT 3 general manager Reynaldo Berroya said trains would operate at five-minute intervals between 11 p.m. and 5:30 a.m.

He said the 24-hour operation was on a trial stage, and they would adjust train intervals and staff deployment depending on demand.

For today’s initial graveyard shift, MRT will deploy 23 tellers, four train drivers, and enough security in each of the line’s 13 stations.

President Arroyo ordered MRT’s operations beyond 11 p.m. at the requests of call center agents and employees of business process outsourcing firms.

Berroya said call centers changed shifts at midnight and at 4 a.m., when most of the passenger buses and jeepneys had stopped plying their routes.

There are close to 900 call centers and BPO firms in Metro Manila, with 300 having offices in Makati.

The industry employs 400,000 people, and of whom 90 percent are based in Metro Manila.

I was able to Ride the MRT at 2AM in the Morning kanina oh diba! Saya.

It's the usual MRT experience minus the thickness of people commuting, basically, very few people riding, parang Last Train nung nakaraan. Feeling ko subway sa new york nung dumaan sa undergroung lols. Maraming Security Guards which is Good! One teller i think per station. Medyo basa nung sumakay ako kasi kakatapos lang ng ulan. May nakita pa akong kakilala oh diba (I work in the BPO industry). Ayun, same price, same train, same everything, pure convenience. Kakatakot kasi sa BUS pag gabi dahil sa holdapan, mahal naman mag taxi so. Tipid din! May mga food stalls na open din sa ganung oras sa ibang station.

Habang nasa train ako naisip ko kung susunod ang LRT-1. I think malabo pag LRT-2 kasi masyado nang konti ang mga sumasakay, i'm not sure about the security in LRT-1 though.

LRT 1 south extension cost shoots up (http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2009/june/02/yehey/business/20090602bus4.html)
Manila Times (http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2009/june/02/yehey/business/20090602bus4.html)

THE construction cost of the proposed southbound extension of the Philippines’ first Light Rail Transit (LRT) rose more than three-fold, according to the Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA).

The state-run agency said the planned extension to Cavite of LRT Line 1 would now cost $1.78 billion, up from the previous $683 million.

“The revised project cost includes the light rail vehicle [LRV] requirements on account of the Line 1 North Extension Project and the System Enhancement Works of the entire line during the 40-year concession period,” LRTA said.

The LRTA earlier awarded the construction of the LRT 1 North Extension Project to the joint venture of D.M. Consunji Inc. and First Balfour. Costing about P6.3 billion, the project involves the construction of a 5.71-kilometer elevated line seamlessly from the Monumento station of Line 1 to the North Avenue station of Line 3.

The LRT North Extension Project is scheduled for completion by February next year.

The LRTA also recommended to the National Economic and Development Authority the use of official development assistance (ODA) for the implementation of the South Extension Project.

The project aims to extend the existing 15-kilometer LRT 1 by an additional 11.7 kilometers, of which about 10.5 kilometers will be elevated and 1.2 kilometers will be at-grade.

The extension will start from the existing line’s last station at Baclaran and will traverse the cities of Parañaque and Las Piñas in Metro Manila and reach the municipality of Bacoor, Cavite. The project will include eight new passenger stations, with provision for two additional future stations. It is expected to serve 800,000 passengers a day and cut travel time from Bacoor to Monumento, Caloocan City, to less than an hour.

The project will also involve system enhancement works over the concession period, which would include fleets upgrade, replacement and capacity improvements. A total of 64 LRVs will be added in 2020 and another eight in 2030. -- Darwin G. Amojelar (http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2009/june/02/yehey/business/20090602bus4.html)

haaay... sa wakas, may update na rin ang LRT south extension since 1996! :omg:

Newbie poster po! First post, hehe..

Magrereport lang din ng update na napansin ko sa LRT North Extension, kahapon Northbound mula sa harap ng Waltermart 3 pa lang may spans, hangang tapat lang ng Waltermart. Then nagulat ako ngayong umaga 7 na yung spans, abot na halos hngang Iglesia!? :-O

Sorry walang pics, sira cams ko. :(

^^ because they do most of the work during nighttime... kasi hindi na gaanong maraming sasakyang dumadaan sa EDSA, kaya menos traffic...

Newbie poster po! First post, hehe..

Magrereport lang din ng update na napansin ko sa LRT North Extension, kahapon Northbound mula sa harap ng Waltermart 3 pa lang may spans, hangang tapat lang ng Waltermart. Then nagulat ako ngayong umaga 7 na yung spans, abot na halos hngang Iglesia!? :-O

Sorry walang pics, sira cams ko. :(

welcome evo_Sieg post ka ng photos next time. :)

I was able to Ride the MRT at 2AM in the Morning kanina oh diba! Saya.

It's the usual MRT experience minus the thickness of people commuting, basically, very few people riding, parang Last Train nung nakaraan. Feeling ko subway sa new york nung dumaan sa undergroung lols. Maraming Security Guards which is Good! One teller i think per station. Medyo basa nung sumakay ako kasi kakatapos lang ng ulan. May nakita pa akong kakilala oh diba (I work in the BPO industry). Ayun, same price, same train, same everything, pure convenience. Kakatakot kasi sa BUS pag gabi dahil sa holdapan, mahal naman mag taxi so. Tipid din! May mga food stalls na open din sa ganung oras sa ibang station.

Habang nasa train ako naisip ko kung susunod ang LRT-1. I think malabo pag LRT-2 kasi masyado nang konti ang mga sumasakay, i'm not sure about the security in LRT-1 though.

cool

Sasakay sana ako ng MRT kagabi mga 12:30 am, kaso 30 mins nga ang waiting time natakot ako :lol:

Anyway, from philstar:

4,000 commuters on opening day of MRT 3 24-hour operation (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=473748&publicationSubCategoryId=200)

MANILA, Philippines – An estimated 4,000 commuters have ridden the Metro Rail Transit (MRT) 3 on the first day of its 24-hour operation, an official of the Department of Transportation and Communications (DOTC) announced today.

DOTC Assistant Secretary Reynaldo Berroya said they have to allow the slight maintenance of the tracks by their personnel during the 30-minute interval before a train arrives at a station.

"Kailangan maisingit namin kahit konti para sa maintenance ng tracks and we also have to make sure that they are aligned to avoid any accident," Berroya said in a radio interview.

Berroya, also the concurrent MRT general manager, said he also requested the Philippine National Police to deploy additional personnel at MRT stations.

"Yung ibang lugar talagang madilim. Ang kinatatakot ko ay may mangyari yung mga petty crimes," he said.

The MRT has implemented a 24-hour operation system to accommodate mostly those working in the late hours, particularly call center agents and business process outsourcing employees.

Berroya said they still have to see if they would continue the 24-hour operation scheme in the following days.

Sasakay sana ako ng MRT kagabi mga 12:30 am, kaso 30 mins nga ang waiting time natakot ako :lol:

Anyway, from philstar:

4,000 commuters on opening day of MRT 3 24-hour operation (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=473748&publicationSubCategoryId=200)

MANILA, Philippines – An estimated 4,000 commuters have ridden the Metro Rail Transit (MRT) 3 on the first day of its 24-hour operation, an official of the Department of Transportation and Communications (DOTC) announced today.

DOTC Assistant Secretary Reynaldo Berroya said they have to allow the slight maintenance of the tracks by their personnel during the 30-minute interval before a train arrives at a station.

"Kailangan maisingit namin kahit konti para sa maintenance ng tracks and we also have to make sure that they are aligned to avoid any accident," Berroya said in a radio interview.

Berroya, also the concurrent MRT general manager, said he also requested the Philippine National Police to deploy additional personnel at MRT stations.

"Yung ibang lugar talagang madilim. Ang kinatatakot ko ay may mangyari yung mga petty crimes," he said.

The MRT has implemented a 24-hour operation system to accommodate mostly those working in the late hours, particularly call center agents and business process outsourcing employees.

Berroya said they still have to see if they would continue the 24-hour operation scheme in the following days.

Ano iyan? Tren sa isang regional service? E di dalawang tren lang ang bumibiyahe niyan... anyway that's better than nothing.

^^ lugi sila pag 4,000 commuters lang.

^^ lugi sila pag 4,000 commuters lang.

Baka dahil una palang. I hope it will pick up, para majustify ang operation nila.

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^^ WOW!!!! Meron na pala tayong design eh.... :D :lol:

Nice one, @yhuanista07!!! :okay:

is that official? :)

^^ wow! are those for real???

if the renders above are real, mukhang nakadikit sa SM north at directly nasa ibabaw ng EDSA. does this mean na ieextend yung tracks ng MRT3? the design complements SM North.

tv patrol: di umabot sa kalahati na expected 12,000 riders last night. 134K ang kita kagabi but ang gastos ay umabot ng 289K. giving it a trial period: 2 days more for this 24-hour operation experiment. reynaldo berroya said "100% loss ito". another option if 24 hours operations is the extension of the regular 5am-10pm to a new extended 4am - 12mn.

^^ WOW!!!! Meron na pala tayong design eh.... :D :lol:

Nice one, @yhuanista07!!! :okay:
tnx...hehehe:cheers:

is that official? :)
nope...

^^ wow! are those for real???
gawa-gawa ko lang pu yan... hehehe ala magawa... :bash:

if the renders above are real, mukhang nakadikit sa SM north at directly nasa ibabaw ng EDSA. does this mean na ieextend yung tracks ng MRT3? the design complements SM North.
wala na ata kcng available lot... hehehe alam ko ieextend tlaga un...:lol:

tv patrol: di umabot sa kalahati na expected 12,000 riders last night. 134K ang kita kagabi but ang gastos ay umabot ng 289K. giving it a trial period: 2 days more for this 24-hour operation experiment. reynaldo berroya said "100% loss ito". another option if 24 hours operations is the extension of the regular 5am-10pm to a new extended 4am - 12mn.

La pa ata economies of scale, pag dumami na mga BPO buildings that are attached to the MRT, yung project ng Eton at saka Araneta Center, siguro mas magiging feasible na 24 hours.

At saka kung every 30 minutes, dapat may naka paskil na na definite sked para alam na ng mga tao what time pupunta or else they'll miss their ride.

tnx...hehehe:cheers:


nope...


gawa-gawa ko lang pu yan... hehehe ala magawa... :bash:


wala na ata kcng available lot... hehehe alam ko ieextend tlaga un...:lol:

@yhuanista07: I-update mo agad ang renderings mo. Hindi man official yan, baka mamaya may GOV'T OFFICIAL na mamirata ng work mo at iclaim ang credit. Nyehehehe. :bash: Tip lang. Ang GANDA kasi ng rendering mo pramis. :D Kung yan talaga ang magiging design (sana nga... suggest mo kaya!) ang astig-astig-astig ng kalalabasan nyang GCS na yan :cheers:

6,000 rode MRT in first overnight run

By Riza T. Olchondra
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 19:53:00 06/02/2009

Filed Under: Transport, Consumer Issues, business process outsourcing (BPO), Railway

MANILA, Philippines -- The Metro Rail Transit (MRT-3) on the Epifanio delos Santos Avenue (EDSA) served almost 6,000 passengers on its first overnight operation on Monday, officials said.

Official data as of Tuesday afternoon showed that 5,774 passengers were served by the MRT-3 from 11 p.m. to 4 a.m.

The Call Centers Association of the Philippines (CCAP) president Jojo Uligan said that the BPO or business process outsourcing industry appreciated the MRT-3's 24-hour operation.

Transportation assistant secretary and MRT-3 general manager Reynaldo Berroya said the extended hours were primarily aimed at serving call center agents and other workers in the BPO sector in support of President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo's promise to help the industry.

Metro Manila commuters who often get stranded during typhoons, including students, are also seen to benefit, Berroya said.

Surveys revealed that most call center agents would leave their offices at around midnight and at 4 a.m., Berroya said.

The MRT-3 used to open around 5 a.m. and close around 11 p.m.

^^ bakit po ndi nlng taasan ng mrt ung fare nila kahit cguro 3 pesos na dagdag kakagatin pa din yan ng mga pasahero, ano ba nmn ung konting dagdag sa pamasahe qng feeling safe and secured ka nmn.... ung dagdag pamasahe for the graveyard shift i think mas magiging feasible un,.....??

^^ Yup. Para nga naman pati MRT3 may "night differential" :lol: Anyway experimental pa naman, we'll see along the way. Second night na. ;)

As for the fares, yeah sana nga taasan na nila kahit pano basta makakita naman ng pagbabago :D

That's a good idea, it will provide abit more job for some people who are willing to work the graveyard shifts.

I think I am digging the idea of riding the LRT or MRT at midnight just to go back and forth..LOL That is if I get the chance to do it sometime in the future just to feed my shallowness sometimes.. he he he

if the renders above are real, mukhang nakadikit sa SM north at directly nasa ibabaw ng EDSA. does this mean na ieextend yung tracks ng MRT3? the design complements SM North.

it's a floating Train Station... that couldn't be real. it's inaccurate and it didn't consider Phil Surgeons on the renders...

@yhuanista07
very nice renders! ayos yan, may matino kang nagagawa kung wala kang magawa. :lol:

it's a floating Train Station... that couldn't be real. it's inaccurate and it didn't consider Phil Surgeons on the renders...
Its just a concept, like concept cars. It doesn't accurately represent what would the terminal would actually look like, but its close to what I saw a few threads back, the picture of the cross-section of what seemed to be a proposed design for the Grand Central Station.

Nice render yhuanista07. So I reckon you're already working with the proposed designs of the MRT7 stations? :D

i'm still baffled with the maintenance of MRT given its 24-hour operation. i think better alternative would be start the operation at 4 am then stops at 12 am. feasible enough.

Grand Central Terminal
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:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

Not sure how accurate this rendering would be though given the absense of tail tracks. By the looks of it, its going to be double tracked for all lines but the Grand Central Station itself isn't long enough to compensate for tail tracks inside so they must protrude on the outside somehow...

UNLESS...in the inside, instead of having an inbound and outbound platform, perhaps the trains would end in a single track platform....you know what I'm getting at?

i'm still baffled with the maintenance of MRT given its 24-hour operation. i think better alternative would be start the operation at 4 am then stops at 12 am. feasible enough.

That will not be a problem as long as the signal system of MRT of any train lines have a reversible signal traffic route which is called single track operation. This way the adjoining track is having some maintenance on progress at night, while on the other track, the trains will alternately ran on opposite directions every 30 minutes the most gap.

It appears that the above rendering of the Grand Central Terminal station is patterned with a layout that we got in the past MRT/LRT thread, also, the perspective of the station is too high, it looks higher than the Sky Garden? And I highly doubt that Phil.Coll.Of Surgeons will allow their building to be forever shadowed. And the details of SM has soo much flaws, like a highschool student took so much time on Google Sketchup. Poor rendition. I hope this is not true as the design itself isn't that fantastic. That rainbow roof is useless and will not stand very high winds in the area. And this is just in the drawings how about it real life?

Many passengers have been getting irked since Monday night as most of them are not aware the trains will have 30 minute gaps pala from 11pm-4am. Like kagabe, when the north bound trains arrived in Ayala at 1130pm and 12mn, super jampacked na sya...

That's a good idea, it will provide abit more job for some people who are willing to work the graveyard shifts.

I think I am digging the idea of riding the LRT or MRT at midnight just to go back and forth..LOL That is if I get the chance to do it sometime in the future just to feed my shallowness sometimes.. he he he

i find this funny

Any updates sa construction ng LRT1 Extension? Anu nang mga improvements na nagaganap sa Monumento area? :D:D:D:D:D

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:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

bakit po lrt 1 g3 train ang nasa grand central station di ba station po iyon sa mrt 3.right??:colgate::colgate:

^^ it will connect LRT 1 and MRT 3...:)

Today, 24 hour operation of MRT will stop, ending 2 day experimenting period. Cost of operation against passenger turnout is the reason, mas mababa ang pasok kesa sa labas ng pera. MRT will operate starting 4 am though. :)

Kailan po ba huling pinatakbo ang lrt 1 g2 train.

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^^ is that Grand central station a proposed project or is already confirmed ? And when they will start building it , and how many years it will take to make it ?

tv patrol: di umabot sa kalahati na expected 12,000 riders last night. 134K ang kita kagabi but ang gastos ay umabot ng 289K. giving it a trial period: 2 days more for this 24-hour operation experiment. reynaldo berroya said "100% loss ito". another option if 24 hours operations is the extension of the regular 5am-10pm to a new extended 4am - 12mn.

Loss ? what about the cars and buses that didn't polluted the streets that night ?
And its a new thing people need to get used to new things , it takes years to educate people to take public transportation.

And let's face it our lines are not even linked.

'Midnight train' to replace MRT 3's 24-hour operation (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=474090&publicationSubCategoryId=200)

MANILA, Philippines – Starting tomorrow, the Metro Rail Transit (MRT) 3 will no longer implement a 24-hour operation amid concerns over passenger safety, the rail system’s management said today.

According public relations officer Lysa Blancaflor, the MRT management instead decided to exercise its second option — the operation of the "midnight train."

Blancaflor said the entry gates of the MRT 3 stations will be open until 12:01 midnight to accommodate riders of the last train, which is dispatched from the North Avenue Station in Quezon City.

During the 24-hour operation, the MRT 3 recorded the highest number of passengers at about 3,000 between 11 p.m. and 12 midnight. Most stations, however, were reported to be empty between 2 a.m. and 4:30 a.m.

“This passenger profile is due to the call center agents' schedule of reporting to work before midnight”, said Transportation Assistant Secretary and MRT 3 general manager Reynaldo Berroya.

He said the passenger profile of the MRT 3 also showed that third-shift workers in Metro Manila, including factory workers, security guards and hospital attendants, report to work at 12 midnight.

In order to prevent the wear and tear of the MRT 3 system, the management decided to operate only when there are passengers, Berroya added.

He said the safety of the passengers and MRT 3 system must be ensured. He added that maintenance of tracks, power and electrical lines done daily between 1 a.m. and 4 a.m.

“Effective maintenance of the system cannot be done if MRT 3 will continue to operate 24 hours daily”, Berroya said.

^^ Well they need to make a schedule, there is no point to make the trains go if the stations are empty in some hours.

nakakatakot naman yang midnight train na yan, parang yung sa movie ng shake, rattle and roll :lol:

Bistek for QC Mayor in 2010 :lol:

'Bistek' seeks MRT, LRT student discount (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=473925&publicationSubCategoryId=65)
Updated June 03, 2009 12:00 AM

MANILA, Philippines - Quezon City Vice Mayor Herbert “Bistek” Bautista is seeking a 20 percent discount for students riding the Metro Rail Transit and the Light Railway Transit.

In a statement issued yesterday, he said students should get fare discounts to help the government entice the youth to go back to school and finish their studies.

He suggested a 20 percent discount be in effect from Monday to Saturday starting this month. – Perseus Echeminada

Kailan po ba huling pinatakbo ang lrt 1 g2 train.

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^^Di naman tinigil ang pag operate nyan. Kanina dyan ako nakasakay.

Midnight train, if ever tumakbo ulit si erap at manalo sigurado dito sasakay ang kanyang midnight cabinet.:lol:

malamang dahil yun sa midnight madness...:lol:

Bistek for QC Mayor in 2010 :lol:

'Bistek' seeks MRT, LRT student discount (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=473925&publicationSubCategoryId=65)
Updated June 03, 2009 12:00 AM

MANILA, Philippines - Quezon City Vice Mayor Herbert “Bistek” Bautista is seeking a 20 percent discount for students riding the Metro Rail Transit and the Light Railway Transit.

In a statement issued yesterday, he said students should get fare discounts to help the government entice the youth to go back to school and finish their studies.

He suggested a 20 percent discount be in effect from Monday to Saturday starting this month. – Perseus Echeminada

wala bang estudyante na sumasakay ng mrt? i think naman na masaya na ang mga tao sa current fare ng mrt kahit itaas pa ito ng piso hanggang limang piso, eh babaan pa kaya? parang lugi naman ata ang tax payers nito.

please solve the overcapacity issues sa mrt 3 first.

'Midnight train' to replace MRT 3's 24-hour operation (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=474090&publicationSubCategoryId=200)

MANILA, Philippines – Starting tomorrow, the Metro Rail Transit (MRT) 3 will no longer implement a 24-hour operation amid concerns over passenger safety, the rail system’s management said today.

According public relations officer Lysa Blancaflor, the MRT management instead decided to exercise its second option — the operation of the "midnight train."

Blancaflor said the entry gates of the MRT 3 stations will be open until 12:01 midnight to accommodate riders of the last train, which is dispatched from the North Avenue Station in Quezon City.

During the 24-hour operation, the MRT 3 recorded the highest number of passengers at about 3,000 between 11 p.m. and 12 midnight. Most stations, however, were reported to be empty between 2 a.m. and 4:30 a.m.

“This passenger profile is due to the call center agents' schedule of reporting to work before midnight”, said Transportation Assistant Secretary and MRT 3 general manager Reynaldo Berroya.

He said the passenger profile of the MRT 3 also showed that third-shift workers in Metro Manila, including factory workers, security guards and hospital attendants, report to work at 12 midnight.

In order to prevent the wear and tear of the MRT 3 system, the management decided to operate only when there are passengers, Berroya added.

He said the safety of the passengers and MRT 3 system must be ensured. He added that maintenance of tracks, power and electrical lines done daily between 1 a.m. and 4 a.m.

“Effective maintenance of the system cannot be done if MRT 3 will continue to operate 24 hours daily”, Berroya said.

ang bilis nmn nilang mgdecide. to think na bago pa pang iniimplement ung 24-hour operations nila. dapat at least one week operations ang ginawa nila. dapat inalam muna nila ng reason kung bakit kokonti ung pasahero. isa sa nakikita kong reason dito is, hindi pa aware lahat ng tao n 24-hours na operations nila. taong gobyerno talaga..walang.......

Bkit hindi kaya nila bigyan ng time limit ung operations ng mga bus companies plying EDSA. Let say, let them operate only until 12 midnight, so that the passengers would then take the mrt. It would be good for the mrt and good for the environment. Because buses emits more smoke into the air that pollute the air in metro manila. Dapat ito ang ipush ng mga ENVIRONMENTALIST!

Bkit hindi kaya nila bigyan ng time limit ung operations ng mga bus companies plying EDSA. Let say, let them operate only until 12 midnight, so that the passengers would then take the mrt. It would be good for the mrt and good for the environment. Because buses emits more smoke into the air that pollute the air in metro manila. Dapat ito ang ipush ng mga ENVIRONMENTALIST!

ganun tlga eh.. MRTs are machines too. kelangan din magpahinga and needs maintenance.. and sa totoo lang di dpat nag 24 hours yan MRT na Yan,bket? kasi kakaunti na nga lang mga trainsets nila , kapag nasira yan .. aberya ung mga gagamit ng pang umaga.. lageng puno.. Kaya ang solusyon, buy more trains.kahit 2nd hand patulan nyo na,pls lang..

ganun tlga eh.. MRTs are machines too. kelangan din magpahinga and needs maintenance.. and sa totoo lang di dpat nag 24 hours yan MRT na Yan,bket? kasi kakaunti na nga lang mga trainsets nila , kapag nasira yan .. aberya ung mga gagamit ng pang umaga.. lageng puno.. Kaya ang solusyon, buy more trains.kahit 2nd hand patulan nyo na,pls lang..

syempre kailangan talaga ng mga machines ng pahinga at maintenance, but hindi naman lahat ng trains gagana sa gabi, right? so ung mga hindi naman gagamit for the operations, pwede nilang imaintain, then ung mga ginamit for the night operations, they can maintain it during the day. they should also make plans on acquiring new trains para mas lalong gumanda ang service nila.

^^ True dat!!!

Lalo na pag galing kang North Station, especially kung galing sa dulong riles(hindi sa garahe ah, yung nakabilad lng sa araw)yung train na sasakyan mo, napaka-init!!!!! Grabe!!!

Kahit secondhand na lang, patulan na....

Bistek for QC Mayor in 2010 :lol:

'Bistek' seeks MRT, LRT student discount (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=473925&publicationSubCategoryId=65)
Updated June 03, 2009 12:00 AM

MANILA, Philippines - Quezon City Vice Mayor Herbert “Bistek” Bautista is seeking a 20 percent discount for students riding the Metro Rail Transit and the Light Railway Transit.

In a statement issued yesterday, he said students should get fare discounts to help the government entice the youth to go back to school and finish their studies.

He suggested a 20 percent discount be in effect from Monday to Saturday starting this month. – Perseus Echeminada

The train system should have a student fare to all public school students from grade school to high school. The fare card can only be issued in schools where the students attended. It can only be swiped twice in going to school and in coming home. If they use the cards to bulakbul sorry it can be swipe twice a day only and the card is disposable. The time limit is from 7 AM to 7 PM. Mondays to Fridays no holidays. The cost is 25% of the regular daily fare.

ang bilis nmn nilang mgdecide. to think na bago pa pang iniimplement ung 24-hour operations nila. dapat at least one week operations ang ginawa nila. dapat inalam muna nila ng reason kung bakit kokonti ung pasahero. isa sa nakikita kong reason dito is, hindi pa aware lahat ng tao n 24-hours na operations nila. taong gobyerno talaga..walang.......

Does the management lost there mind? The trial basis should at least be 30 days to let the riding public get used or adjust to the time schedule. And why 30 minutes per gap. That's too long. :bash: :bash: :bash:

wala bang estudyante na sumasakay ng mrt? i think naman na masaya na ang mga tao sa current fare ng mrt kahit itaas pa ito ng piso hanggang limang piso, eh babaan pa kaya? parang lugi naman ata ang tax payers nito.

please solve the overcapacity issues sa mrt 3 first.

They shold make the train longer(more cars) and the gap every 3 to 5 minutes every trains on each lines. This will make the ride a bit easier.:ohno:

ganun tlga eh.. MRTs are machines too. kelangan din magpahinga and needs maintenance.. and sa totoo lang di dpat nag 24 hours yan MRT na Yan,bket? kasi kakaunti na nga lang mga trainsets nila , kapag nasira yan .. aberya ung mga gagamit ng pang umaga.. lageng puno.. Kaya ang solusyon, buy more trains.kahit 2nd hand patulan nyo na,pls lang..

That is what you call preventive maintenance.
The motorman before he boarded the train for service, he have to walk around the train on the tracks for visual inspection to look for something obvious in his look around.

Then there is 100 hours inspection. That is the train is brought to the barn/garage shop for train maintenance inspection like oiling, geasing, minor repair for lose or broken parts or wheel replacements if worn out. Check the motors that turn the wheels, worn brakes linings and air conditioning systems.

They should have a spare train in the yard for that.

'Midnight train' to replace MRT 3's 24-hour operation (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=474090&publicationSubCategoryId=200)

MANILA, Philippines – Starting tomorrow, the Metro Rail Transit (MRT) 3 will no longer implement a 24-hour operation amid concerns over passenger safety, the rail system’s management said today.

According public relations officer Lysa Blancaflor, the MRT management instead decided to exercise its second option — the operation of the "midnight train."

Blancaflor said the entry gates of the MRT 3 stations will be open until 12:01 midnight to accommodate riders of the last train, which is dispatched from the North Avenue Station in Quezon City.

During the 24-hour operation, the MRT 3 recorded the highest number of passengers at about 3,000 between 11 p.m. and 12 midnight. Most stations, however, were reported to be empty between 2 a.m. and 4:30 a.m.

“This passenger profile is due to the call center agents' schedule of reporting to work before midnight”, said Transportation Assistant Secretary and MRT 3 general manager Reynaldo Berroya.

He said the passenger profile of the MRT 3 also showed that third-shift workers in Metro Manila, including factory workers, security guards and hospital attendants, report to work at 12 midnight.

In order to prevent the wear and tear of the MRT 3 system, the management decided to operate only when there are passengers, Berroya added.

He said the safety of the passengers and MRT 3 system must be ensured. He added that maintenance of tracks, power and electrical lines done daily between 1 a.m. and 4 a.m.

“Effective maintenance of the system cannot be done if MRT 3 will continue to operate 24 hours daily”, Berroya said.

Instead of the midnight train, why don't they simply lessen the frequency of service instead like making the waiting time from 5 minutes during rush hour to about 30 minutes after midnight. Try all the options first before quitting the proposal altogether. Since some stations are empty, why can't they have them run on express, only stopping on stations with higher volume of passengers.

Newbie poster po! First post, hehe..

Magrereport lang din ng update na napansin ko sa LRT North Extension, kahapon Northbound mula sa harap ng Waltermart 3 pa lang may spans, hangang tapat lang ng Waltermart. Then nagulat ako ngayong umaga 7 na yung spans, abot na halos hngang Iglesia!? :-O

Sorry walang pics, sira cams ko. :(

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Facing Jollibee and Mcdonald's EDSA-Munoz near Congressional Avenue

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Facing VXI Quezon City, Grand Residences and The Annex, SM North

(UPDATE) MRT-3 stops 24/7 ops, tries extended run instead

Source: ABS-CBN News (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/metro-manila/06/03/09/mrt-3-stops-247-ops-tries-extended-run-instead)

MANILA - After experimenting with 24-hour operations for two days, the Metro Rail Transit Corp. (MRTC) will now experiment instead with extending the operating time of the MetroStar Express line, popularly known as the MRT-3.

In a press release, the MRTC said starting Wednesday the "midnight train" operation scheme will be implemented on the Metrostar Express, which extends the operations of the rail line to 1 a.m., instead of the usual 11 p.m. end.

The last train going southbound from the North Avenue Station, the line's northern terminus, will leave at 12:00 midnight and will reach the Taft Avenue Station in the south at 12:30 a.m.

The return trip of the last train will then arrive at the North Avenue Station at 1 a.m.

The MRT-3 operations will resume at 4 a.m., one hour earlier than the usual 5 a.m. start.

"The entry gates of the MRT-3 stations will be open until 12:01 midnight to accommodate riders of the last train dispatched from the North Station in Quezon City," the statement read.

Empty trains

The "second option" was implemented after the MRTC noted that most stations were empty between 2 a.m. and 4:30 a.m.

"During the 24 hour operation, the MRT-3 recorded the highest passengers of about 3,000 between 11 P.M. and 12 midnight," the MRT management said in the statement.

This was due to most workers in the business process outsourcing (BPO) industry, as well as most third-shift wage earners in Metro Manila, such as factory workers, security guards, and hospital workers, report to work at around midnight, Transportation and Communications Assistant Sec. Reynaldo Berroya, MRT-3 General Manager, said.

"In order to save the wear and tear of the MRT3 system, the management decided to operate when there are passengers only," the statement read.

The train system also needs to be maintained, and the 24-hour run would compromise needed maintenance, the MRTC explained.

"Safety of the passengers and MRT-3 system itself must be ensured. Maintenance of the rail road tracks, power and electrical lines that propels the system are done daily between 1 a.m. and 4 a.m.," the statement read.

Low passenger numbers

On Tuesday, the MRTC said they were only able to service 5,346 passengers during their first 24-hour run, instead of the 12,000 expected passengers. They were also only able to earn P134,000, compared to P289,000 in electricity expenses alone.

On the second night of overnight operations, the number of passengers dropped to 3,986, the MRTC said.

Berroya on Tuesday also said that they will announce further changes to the schedule of the train system to the public as soon as possible.

The new schedule will be known by Sunday, Berroya said Wednesday.

The announcement of the 24-hour run of the system, which runs along the length of Epifanio delos Santos Avenue (EDSA), was made last Thursday, a week after President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo floated the idea upon the suggestion of several call center agents whom she had breakfast with on May 21.

Arroyo had paid a goodwill visit to a McDonald's restaurant in Makati to remind call center agents about the government's numerous investments in training workers for the business process outsourcing industry.

The initial 24-hour run started Monday. With reports from Sol Aragones, ABS-CBN News

Unlike MRT, LRT lines can't run 24/7

Source: ABS-CBN News (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/06/01/09/unlike-mrt-lrt-lines-cant-run-247)

Unlike the Metrostar Express (MRT) along EDSA, two other Metro Manila rail services cannot offer round-the-clock rides due to low volume of passengers.

According to Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA) administrator Mel Robles, they cannot open LRT lines 1 and 2 until midnight as passengers seldom ride the train in those times. "Kasi hindi naman kami EDSA (MRT's route), mas konti [ang pasahero] namin. Kung kinakailangan, we will look into that and study the matter seriously," he said.

In the past, LRTA offered rides until 12 in the morning but the the volume of passengers were low in both lines. Line 1 starts in Monumento and ends in Baclaran while Line 2 starts from Santolan to Recto. Majority of Manila's passengers are students and employees who go off at the usual rush hour.

As classes opened in public schools on Monday, Robles took an early morning inspection from Cubao to Santolan and noted that passengers already flocked to the stations as early as seven in the morning.

"Gusto ko din makita kung gano kahanda. Meron kaming ginawa ng paghahanda para sa pagbubukas ng klase at gusto nating makita kung nasusunod ito at kung meron pang dapat gawin at kung tama naman yung pinag-usapan namin na dapat gawin," Robles said.

Fixing kinks

Before classes in all levels open on June 8, Robles said they are trying to fix minor kinks like faulty elevator systems. "Meron mga elevators that are out of service, pinapa-rush na namin yun. We are targeting na matapos yun pero sa procurement of spare parts ang medyo mabagal sa amin."

Passengers are expected to rise by about 20 to 30 percent for Line 2 this school year mostly comprising of students studying at the University Belt. For Line 1, there is an expected 10% increase.

"We need to bring in more coaches, and ang headway namin mga five minutes, even three minutes. Sa line 1, we can do two minutes and 10 seconds. As of the moment, all the coaches are in service, our required number of trains ay tumatakbo," he said.

Satellite stations and ticket vendors have also been put up to minimize long lines.

LRTA is coordinating with the Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH) to make sure construction accidents would not hamper the railway's operations. Last Friday, debris from a nearby construction site fell on the tracks of LRT line 1, causing transportation disruptions.

"We are coordinating with DPWH para higpitan yang ganyang klase ng construction near LRTA. That's unfortunate because that's beyond our control," Robles explained.

Fares remain at P12 and P15, and there are still discounts for senior citizens, said Robles. He clarified, though, that there is still no student discount.

"We give discounts to senior citizens but for the students, we don't do that. For the distance, that's the cheapest that's why this is the preferred mode of transportation. It is the lowest fare in the world. The subsidy of the government is up to P40. The fares have not been increased in six years so there is no need for a discount anymore," Robles said.

oo nga naman bkit kailangan bigyan ng discount ang studyante eh, abala lang yan sa pagbibili ng ticket kasi papakita mo pa id mo,etc.. diba nga pag may senior citizen, ang tagal..

oo nga naman bkit kailangan bigyan ng discount ang studyante eh, abala lang yan sa pagbibili ng ticket kasi papakita mo pa id mo,etc.. diba nga pag may senior citizen, ang tagal..

Diba ang stub ng Senior Citizen ay sa office ng LRTA kinukuha? I mean.. yung stub na gagamitin mo para makabili ka ng ticket na pang senior citizen.

Diba ang stub ng Senior Citizen ay sa office ng LRTA kinukuha? I mean.. yung stub na gagamitin mo para makabili ka ng ticket na pang senior citizen.

sa LRT 2 sa may assistance pa kinukuha eh, aberya nga un sa mga bibili ng stored value at mga nagpapabarya.. kasi ayaw tumanggap ng pangit na pera sa mga vending machines..

^^Buti na lang at puwede stored value ng LRT1 in both lines. Kaya sa LRT1 ako bumibili. Mas maikli pa ang pila.

^^Di naman tinigil ang pag operate nyan. Kanina dyan ako nakasakay.

Kc po matagal ko na di nakikita intong train na 'to sa SERBISYO PAG NASAKAY KAMI papuntang carriedo at abad santos.

buti nalang:cucumber::cucumber::cucumber:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_SxXU5qLSk60/SfpU4k7WmpI/AAAAAAAAAM0/eQKryHBtcgo/s1600/LRT1_1112A.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/j6jvpy.jpg
Facing VXI Quezon City, Grand Residences and The Annex, SM North

getting better...thanks.

some highlights of the update...03 Jun '09
the finished product "sidewalks"... Monumento area
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/2706/img0056tiu.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0056tiu.jpg)
construction workers still busy even on rainy days,


LRT North Ext. stretch from kaingin to Muñoz...
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/1087/img0057m.jpg (http://img200.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0057m.jpg)


the controversial hidden pylons revealed... corrective measures done here wherein pierheads were destroyed to be built again
(better than not doing anything at all)
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5177/img0058x.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0058x.jpg)


http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/8716/img0059t.jpg (http://img200.imageshack.us/i/img0059t.jpg/)http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/img0059t.jpg/1/w640.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img200/img0059t.jpg/1/)


Muñoz area...
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/2177/img0060aij.jpg (http://img30.imageshack.us/i/img0060aij.jpg/)http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/img0060aij.jpg/1/w640.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img30/img0060aij.jpg/1/)


http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/152/img0061l.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0061l.jpg)


http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6379/img0062tiv.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0062tiv.jpg)


http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/210/img0063kiw.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0063kiw.jpg)


Balintawak station...
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/9971/img0064esi.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0064esi.jpg)
four lower pylons under construction,

:banana::banana:

^^Thanks for the updates.:cheers:

Kc po matagal ko na di nakikita intong train na 'to sa SERBISYO PAG NASAKAY KAMI papuntang carriedo at abad santos.

buti nalang:cucumber::cucumber::cucumber:


Sa Abad Santos ka bumababa? Doon din ako bumababa. Ang dami nga makukulit na trisikel driver sa paglabas mo ng station.:bash:

hinde ko lang gets yung design nung station, why construct lower pylons?

^^Buti na lang at puwede stored value ng LRT1 in both lines. Kaya sa LRT1 ako bumibili. Mas maikli pa ang pila.

Ang stored value ng LRT1 pwede rin sa LRT2?

Balintawak station...
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/9971/img0064esi.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0064esi.jpg)
four lower pylons under construction,




lumalabas dito na independent ang mga stations at carriageway sa isa't isa structurally..:)

Sa Abad Santos ka bumababa? Doon din ako bumababa. Ang dami nga makukulit na trisikel driver sa paglabas mo ng station.:bash:

^^ yeah... mga nakaabang agad yung mga tricycle driver dun... umaakyat pa talaga para salubungin yung mga bumababa ng station...

i hope LRTA will do something 'bout them... i have a feeling na maaring maging threat ang ilan sa kanila sa security ng mga pasahero... :ohno::ohno:

Proposed GRAND CENTRAL STATION
latest design proposal...

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv357/yhuan07/fwQwqf.jpg
site development plan

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv357/yhuan07/vdvsv.jpg
front elevation

PERSPECTIVES
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv357/yhuan07/vasv.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv357/yhuan07/xACXac-1.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv357/yhuan07/mljml.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv357/yhuan07/dqwdjpg.jpg

site perspective
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv357/yhuan07/dqwfdqw.jpg
suggestion lang pu...

next... design proposal for bagong bario and balintawak station.:cheers:

it's a floating Train Station... that couldn't be real. it's inaccurate and it didn't consider Phil Surgeons on the renders...
ayan na pu... ndi n xa floating hahaha

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/1087/img0057m.jpg


reminds me of the graphs of trigonometric functions :lol::lol::lol:

Today, 24 hour operation of MRT will stop, ending 2 day experimenting period. Cost of operation against passenger turnout is the reason, mas mababa ang pasok kesa sa labas ng pera. MRT will operate starting 4 am though. :)

See, it's dead. :bash:

very good design....
bagay sa SkyGarden

mukhang maganda ang design kaso dapat ang magbayad nyan ay sm...dahil sm ang makikinabang dyan....obvious naman na sobrang lapit sa trinoma station at grand central station .....

Get rid of the SM logo and the ugly Grand Central Terminal text.

Sa Abad Santos ka bumababa? Doon din ako bumababa. Ang dami nga makukulit na trisikel driver sa paglabas mo ng station.:bash:

Korek ka-dyan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Super talaga :naughty::naughty::naughty::naughty::naughty::naughty:
:naughty::naughty::naughty:

Ang stored value ng LRT1 pwede rin sa LRT2?

Yes puwede gamitin...

^^ yeah... mga nakaabang agad yung mga tricycle driver dun... umaakyat pa talaga para salubungin yung mga bumababa ng station...

i hope LRTA will do something 'bout them... i have a feeling na maaring maging threat ang ilan sa kanila sa security ng mga pasahero... :ohno::ohno:

May nakikita naman ako guards na nagbabantay sa ibaba. Minsan pa nga mga PNP personel pa. Pero parang di nila sinisita yung mga drivers. May pampadulas kaya?

ayan na pu... ndi n xa floating hahaha

Dba naka link dapat ang skygarden sa grand central terminal? Tsaka panu na ang MRT7 ililink dyan kung nasa harapan sya ng SM Annex?

http://www.gmanews.tv/story/164127/RP-defers-construction-of-grand-central-terminal

RP defers construction of grand central terminal
CHERYL M. ARCIBAL, GMANews.TV
06/04/2009 | 09:58 PM
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MANILA, Philippines - The Philippines has deferred construction of a grand central terminal that will connect the capital’s three train systems.

The deferral was made after Vice President Noli de Castro, who is also chairman of the National Housing Agency (NHA), proposed to locate the facility at the vacant NHA property beside Trinoma, Socioeconomic Planning Secretary Ralph Recto said.

Before de Castro’s proposal, the terminal – called the Metro Manila Integrated Rail Terminal (MMIRT) – was originally planned to be put up at the SM City Annex mall in Quezon City.

Trinoma is a Quezon City mall owned and managed by Ayala Land Inc., the Philippines’ largest real estate company.

Meanwhile, the SM City Annex is owned and operated by SM Prime Holdings, Inc., controlled by the Sy family, the Philippines’ richest family.

“I think it is the most pragmatic location for the Central Terminal. But of course, the DOTC will have to decide on it," said Recto, who is also National Economic and Development Authority (NEDA) director general.

Recto made this remark after meeting with Ayala Land president Antonino Aquino.

The DOTC had originally designed the grand central terminal, which will connect MRT 3, MRT 7 and the LRT North Extension, to be located in front of SM City.

The facility, which may cost P1.5 billion, will connect MRT 3, which runs from Pasay to Quezon City; LRT 1, which stretches from Monumento to Baclaran; and MRT 7, which will span Commonwealth Avenue to Bulacan.

LRT1 and MRT 3 will soon be connected, allowing commuters to travel from Pasay to Caloocan City.

Since SM is expected to benefit by locating the terminal within its mall, the government has hoped it will pay for at least half of the facility’s construction costs.

The SM Group has yet to issue a decision about the matter.

Like the SM Group, Ayala Land has yet to indicate if it is willing to spend for a portion of the project, Recto said.

"Government will be looking at the alternative location because it’s near both Trinoma and SM. It will satisfy both malls and be profitable for the NHA. In the end, you'll have a better grand central terminal," Recto said.

But NEDA sources said that changing the facility’s original location would require more time which the project does not have.

If approved, the change would delay the project by another two to four months.

No official estimate of the additional cost is available, the NEDA official added. - GMANews.TV

Parang nagaagawan na sila sa grand central terminal.:)

Get rid of the SM logo and the ugly Grand Central Terminal text.
wala cgurong magagawa once na ang sm ang sumagot ng budget... ung txt... hehehe kahit anong font pwede...:)


mukhang maganda ang design kaso dapat ang magbayad nyan ay sm...dahil sm ang makikinabang dyan....obvious naman na sobrang lapit sa trinoma station at grand central station .....
malapit talaga after ng north stationg ng MRT3 next station grand central terminal... dun naman bababa ung mga customers ng SM... pati sasakay kesa naman dadaan ka pa ng trinoma if you want SM dba...:lol:


Dba naka link dapat ang skygarden sa grand central terminal? Tsaka panu na ang MRT7 ililink dyan kung nasa harapan sya ng SM Annex?
ndi cguro kc ung mga abang na post ng LRT extension hanggang annex lang... mabablock ang view ng sky garden if ung GCT nakatapat sa skygarden...

ung link ng mrt7 maganda kung katabi ng extension ng mrt3... pra lahat ng lumuwas papuntang manila hindi makikisiksikan sa mga taong galing sa LRT1(maraming pasahero ang pupunta galing baklaran pauntang SM north... kaya dun xa sa tabi ng extension ng mrt3... kc konti lng baba after dumaan ng train sa trinoma...

at ideal kung nasa 2nd level ung ung MRT3 at MRT7... at nsa 1st level nman ung LRT1. :cheers:

Parang nagaagawan na sila sa grand central terminal.:)

yes, the persuasive power of goverment introducing competition to the still-to-be-finalized location of the grand central terminal :naughty:

which leads us to wonder if SM will still remain silent in the matter with the threat of having the LRT-1 and MRT-3 connection right beside the competition at Trinoma...

on the other hand, notice I didn't mention the LRT-7 line above... 'coz if the grand central terminal does get positioned at the now vacant NHA lot beside Trinoma, is SM obliged to also terminate their LRT-7 line in that grand central terminal?

so it looks like whoever (SM or Ayala) gives the highest share of building costs for the grand central terminal will get that terminal beside their mall...

^^What if underground yung Grand Central Terminal? Wag nga lang babahain.

http://www.gmanews.tv/story/164127/RP-defers-construction-of-grand-central-terminal

RP defers construction of grand central terminal
CHERYL M. ARCIBAL, GMANews.TV
06/04/2009 | 09:58 PM
Email this | Email the Editor | Print |
MANILA, Philippines - The Philippines has deferred construction of a grand central terminal that will connect the capital’s three train systems.

The deferral was made after Vice President Noli de Castro, who is also chairman of the National Housing Agency (NHA), proposed to locate the facility at the vacant NHA property beside Trinoma, Socioeconomic Planning Secretary Ralph Recto said.

Before de Castro’s proposal, the terminal – called the Metro Manila Integrated Rail Terminal (MMIRT) – was originally planned to be put up at the SM City Annex mall in Quezon City.

Trinoma is a Quezon City mall owned and managed by Ayala Land Inc., the Philippines’ largest real estate company.

Meanwhile, the SM City Annex is owned and operated by SM Prime Holdings, Inc., controlled by the Sy family, the Philippines’ richest family.

“I think it is the most pragmatic location for the Central Terminal. But of course, the DOTC will have to decide on it," said Recto, who is also National Economic and Development Authority (NEDA) director general.

Recto made this remark after meeting with Ayala Land president Antonino Aquino.

The DOTC had originally designed the grand central terminal, which will connect MRT 3, MRT 7 and the LRT North Extension, to be located in front of SM City.

The facility, which may cost P1.5 billion, will connect MRT 3, which runs from Pasay to Quezon City; LRT 1, which stretches from Monumento to Baclaran; and MRT 7, which will span Commonwealth Avenue to Bulacan.

LRT1 and MRT 3 will soon be connected, allowing commuters to travel from Pasay to Caloocan City.

Since SM is expected to benefit by locating the terminal within its mall, the government has hoped it will pay for at least half of the facility’s construction costs.

The SM Group has yet to issue a decision about the matter.

Like the SM Group, Ayala Land has yet to indicate if it is willing to spend for a portion of the project, Recto said.

"Government will be looking at the alternative location because it’s near both Trinoma and SM. It will satisfy both malls and be profitable for the NHA. In the end, you'll have a better grand central terminal," Recto said.

But NEDA sources said that changing the facility’s original location would require more time which the project does not have.

If approved, the change would delay the project by another two to four months.

No official estimate of the additional cost is available, the NEDA official added. - GMANews.TV
bahala kayo!!! mga pasaway!!! election kc eh... kya kelangang magpabango cguro ng ilan... hehehe

^^What if underground yung Grand Central Terminal? Wag nga lang babahain.
huhuhu... u mean kelangang tibagin ang edsa... hehehe imagine rush hours with that kind of undergound construction... hai...

Bat nung ginawa yung underpass sa QA di naman tinibag ang EDSA? Puwedeng LRT1 at MRT3 ay elevated at yung MRT7 ay underground.

hmmm. good news or bad ba ito???

^^ ou maganda nga un kc underground ung sa may qmc station ng mrt7 so mas magandang underground rin sya para hindi mukhang roller coaster ung mrt7 na from elevated to underground to elevated again then at-grade ang pangit tignan....

http://www.gmanews.tv/story/164127/RP-defers-construction-of-grand-central-terminal

RP defers construction of grand central terminal
CHERYL M. ARCIBAL, GMANews.TV
06/04/2009 | 09:58 PM
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Recto made this remark after meeting with Ayala Land president Antonino Aquino.

- GMANews.TV

smell of a rotten fish...:ohno:
sana may mag-post ng mapa kung saan 'tong sinasabi na NHA property..

^^ i think he is trying to make a contest between the two giant mall owners. after all, malaking tipid on the part of government kung sasagutin ng mga yan ang gastos. tahimik kasi ang mga Sy sa proposal na sagutin nila ang 50% so ayan pampagising lang.

^^ ou maganda nga un kc underground ung sa may qmc station ng mrt7 so mas magandang underground rin sya para hindi mukhang roller coaster ung mrt7 na from elevated to underground to elevated again then at-grade ang pangit tignan....

sabagay. i prefer underground terminals.

Parang nagaagawan na sila sa grand central terminal.:)

unahan sila kung sino ang kikita sa lupa kung san gagwin ang grand central.... :ohno:

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/1087/img0057m.jpg

Haha sample of an inappropriate use of pink sign! BF version! :lol:

Proposed GRAND CENTRAL STATION
latest design proposal...

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv357/yhuan07/fwQwqf.jpg
site development plan

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv357/yhuan07/vdvsv.jpg
front elevation

PERSPECTIVES
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv357/yhuan07/vasv.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv357/yhuan07/xACXac-1.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv357/yhuan07/mljml.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv357/yhuan07/dqwdjpg.jpg

site perspective
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv357/yhuan07/dqwfdqw.jpg
suggestion lang pu...

next... design proposal for bagong bario and balintawak station.:cheers:


Nice renderings! :)

ayan na pu... ndi n xa floating hahaha

niceness... galing mag-sketch-up! hehehehe!

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv357/yhuan07/fwqefwqe.jpg
yan ba???

mas maganda pa kung ung parking lot ng trinoma ang gagawing GCT...:banana:

kung underground, uhhmm sayang naman ung post dun sa tpat ng annex ng sm north, if dun tlaga ung site... kung sa NHA property... there is no reason para gawin xang underground...:ohno: kung may future development pa gaya ng mall ung site... pwedeng underground... kung sa ibang part ng edsa pwede pa... :)

ung QUEZON ave ndi nya naapektohan ung edsa during the construction of that underpass... kc ung equipments ay nasa quezon ave, wala sa edsa...kaya walang abala... just imagine kung nasa center ng edsa ang construction ng underground station??? eh di nasa edsa din ung trucks and equipments... TRAFFIC!!!! sabihin nating 3-4 lanes kabilaan ang lapad ng construction... remember GRAND central terminal un...:cheers:

niceness... galing mag-sketch-up! hehehehe!
arki ka din pu ba?

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv357/yhuan07/fwqefwqe.jpg
yan ba???

mas maganda pa kung ung parking lot ng trinoma ang gagawing GCT...:banana:




kung yan nga ang balak nilang bagong location ng GCT, maganda resulta ng meeting ni Recto at Aquino, mapapaligiran ang Trinoma ng mga terminals...to SM, thats what you get for being stingy. dadaanan daanan na lng kayo ng mga tren ng LRT 1 kung sakale...

agree!..maganda nga dun sa parking lot ng Trinoma, Edsa cor North Ave. ang problema papayag kaya ang Trinoma?

Hay naku pumapel na naman si kabayan kung sa NHA itatayo yung Grand Central kung titignan mo malapit sa squatter malaking BOTO para kay kabayan...

Mas maganda kng both malls eh mabibigyan ng access nung terminal.

http://www.gmanews.tv/story/164127/RP-defers-construction-of-grand-central-terminal

RP defers construction of grand central terminal
CHERYL M. ARCIBAL, GMANews.TV
06/04/2009 | 09:58 PM
Email this | Email the Editor | Print |
MANILA, Philippines - The Philippines has deferred construction of a grand central terminal that will connect the capital’s three train systems.

The deferral was made after Vice President Noli de Castro, who is also chairman of the National Housing Agency (NHA), proposed to locate the facility at the vacant NHA property beside Trinoma, Socioeconomic Planning Secretary Ralph Recto said.

Before de Castro’s proposal, the terminal – called the Metro Manila Integrated Rail Terminal (MMIRT) – was originally planned to be put up at the SM City Annex mall in Quezon City.

Trinoma is a Quezon City mall owned and managed by Ayala Land Inc., the Philippines’ largest real estate company.

Meanwhile, the SM City Annex is owned and operated by SM Prime Holdings, Inc., controlled by the Sy family, the Philippines’ richest family.

“I think it is the most pragmatic location for the Central Terminal. But of course, the DOTC will have to decide on it," said Recto, who is also National Economic and Development Authority (NEDA) director general.

Recto made this remark after meeting with Ayala Land president Antonino Aquino.

The DOTC had originally designed the grand central terminal, which will connect MRT 3, MRT 7 and the LRT North Extension, to be located in front of SM City.

The facility, which may cost P1.5 billion, will connect MRT 3, which runs from Pasay to Quezon City; LRT 1, which stretches from Monumento to Baclaran; and MRT 7, which will span Commonwealth Avenue to Bulacan.

LRT1 and MRT 3 will soon be connected, allowing commuters to travel from Pasay to Caloocan City.

Since SM is expected to benefit by locating the terminal within its mall, the government has hoped it will pay for at least half of the facility’s construction costs.

The SM Group has yet to issue a decision about the matter.

Like the SM Group, Ayala Land has yet to indicate if it is willing to spend for a portion of the project, Recto said.

"Government will be looking at the alternative location because it’s near both Trinoma and SM. It will satisfy both malls and be profitable for the NHA. In the end, you'll have a better grand central terminal," Recto said.

But NEDA sources said that changing the facility’s original location would require more time which the project does not have.

If approved, the change would delay the project by another two to four months.

No official estimate of the additional cost is available, the NEDA official added. - GMANews.TV

Whoever pays more here in the construction of Grand Central Terminal will have this station near his/her mall. Tapos. Magsubastahan na sila ngayon.

smell of a rotten fish...:ohno:



Recto made this remark after meeting with Ayala Land president Antonino Aquino.



sana may mag-post ng mapa kung saan 'tong sinasabi na NHA property..

I agree, this is so f*cked up. To be honest, it makes far more sense for the Grand Central Station to be located beside the SM Annex, as envisioned here.

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv357/yhuan07/dqwfdqw.jpg

Putting it at the possible lots beside Trinoma will be difficult to extend MRT3 as the curve would be too steep.

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv357/yhuan07/fwqefwqe.jpg

And I have a feeling that if this happens, there won't be an MRT3 extension, hence shoppers will be forced to travel through Trinoma to get to and from MRT3 existing and already ridiculously crowded North Avenue Station (which was never meant to be a terminus) to get to the other lines.

And it makes sense that SM would be a primary beneficiary, since they are one of the principle financiers of LRT7. But they should also pony up some of the costs of the Grand Central Station, its only fair. I think given the recent events, SM Prime should just step up and pay for it now before the Ayalas get their grubby hands on this project and delay it even more. These people don't really care about the travelling public, they just want to benefit from whatever project the government builds.

As for the comment in the article that it should be put where both malls should profit evenly, that is pure baloney!



"Government will be looking at the alternative location because it’s near both Trinoma and SM. It will satisfy both malls and be profitable for the NHA. In the end, you'll have a better grand central terminal," Recto said.



This project isn't to make both profitable but to provide a central convenient location to three rail lines for the interest of the travelling public.

kung yan nga ang balak nilang bagong location ng GCT, maganda resulta ng meeting ni Recto at Aquino, mapapaligiran ang Trinoma ng mga terminals...to SM, thats what you get for being stingy. dadaanan daanan na lng kayo ng mga tren ng LRT 1 kung sakale...

agree!..maganda nga dun sa parking lot ng Trinoma, Edsa cor North Ave. ang problema papayag kaya ang Trinoma?

For profit ok ang Trinoma. What worries me here are the squatters... hindi naman sa matapobre ako pero parang pangit tingnan ang mga squatters against the Grand Central Terminal. Hopefully, Kabayan will replace those squatters with tenements or Gawad Kalinga-style houses.

Yes puwede gamitin...



May nakikita naman ako guards na nagbabantay sa ibaba. Minsan pa nga mga PNP personel pa. Pero parang di nila sinisita yung mga drivers. May pampadulas kaya?

What about the other way around, stored value ng LRT2 to LRT1?

^^I haven't try that yet. Sa LRT 1 ako lagi kasi bumibili ng SVC.

Proposed GRAND CENTRAL STATION
latest design proposal...

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv357/yhuan07/fwQwqf.jpg
site development plan

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv357/yhuan07/vdvsv.jpg
front elevation

PERSPECTIVES
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv357/yhuan07/vasv.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv357/yhuan07/xACXac-1.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv357/yhuan07/mljml.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv357/yhuan07/dqwdjpg.jpg

site perspective
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv357/yhuan07/dqwfdqw.jpg
suggestion lang pu...

next... design proposal for bagong bario and balintawak station.:cheers:

Mas gusto ko to design na nito pics na to.Suggestion ung green oval ay mas malaki at gawin nyo pong 3 rows ang rail.

I agree with the Grand Central Terminal Station. And SM Should shoulder some of the cost because where-ever they place it, it is always favorable to SM. I highly doubt the TriNoma would allow their parking lot as terminus, it will favor SM as well. :lol:

But what they should not forget is the need for more, i mean lots more trains for the MRT-3 line. Thank You so much :)

Dapat kasi dun nalang sa tapat ng Sky Garden ilagay ang Grand Central Terminal eh.

For profit ok ang Trinoma. What worries me here are the squatters... hindi naman sa matapobre ako pero parang pangit tingnan ang mga squatters against the Grand Central Terminal. Hopefully, Kabayan will replace those squatters with tenements or Gawad Kalinga-style houses.

i agree..

those squatters will surely be an "eyesore" for the Grand Central Terminal..

and i'm wondering why Kabayan is suddenly trying to change the plans for the Grand Central Terminal..

i have a bad feeling about this... :ohno::ohno:

nyak.. if they build the Central station in the NHA property.. how would they plan to connect the possible MRT8 that was envisioned to run on West Ave... i think that was the original idea.. so that if that MRT is built madali maconnect sa central station...

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa18/cq40/gctplanmini.jpg
Feasible din pala sa NHA property. :cheers:

Wala pa tayo LRT-5 (Light PNR), LRT-6 (LRT-1 South), MRT-7 (SMNoE to Bulacan) at MRT-8 (NAIA-NorthRail Underground), MRT-9 (MMla Loop Underground) pa kaya, saka na ang MRT-9 I'm sure in the future plans would eventually change for it. LRT-4 is shelved.

kaya cha cha na tayo para tuloy unlad ng infrastructures sa pinas..

I like the proposal of Vice-President. It really makes sense for the Grand Central Station to be set up in the vacant lot of NHA. We will be looking forward also on how we can able to connect the proposed MRT 9 to this second site. :)

kaya cha cha na tayo para tuloy unlad ng infrastructures sa pinas..

Actually tinatarantado lang tayo ng media, mga gustong umambisyon pulitikal, at kung sinu sino pa. Di hamak, mas magaling naman sa kanila ang kasalukuyang administrasyon. :)

kaya cha cha na tayo para tuloy unlad ng infrastructures sa pinas..

Actually IMHO d naman talga chacha ang kasagutan eh... Political WILL ang kailangan para mapatupad ang batas. Sang katutak na ang batas kaso iilan lang ang nasusunod....

So vote for Eng'r Bayani Fernando! For sure yung INFRA na gusto nting mangyari eh matutupad lahat iyan!

Mas maganda sa NHA property pero kagaya ng sinabi ni barrera_marquez, SQUATTERS...

Ito mga problems natatahakin ng GCS

on SM EDSA:
construction traffic
less area

near Trinoma
steep railroad
less area
good location (between NoE and trinoma)

NHA property
squatters..

kung makikita nyo sa Goggle earth
may railtracks na siya parang U-Turn Slot =)

but for me kung maari dun na sa near trinoma
para may overpass na magcoconect sa NoE and Trinoma but the problem is ok naman kaya sa mga Ayala ito?

kung sa NoE naman
baka magtampo naman ang mga Ayala


basta near Trinoma ang magandang location para sakin...

steep railroad

pde magkaiba ang level ng platform ng lines
i.e. LRT1 3rd level MRT3 & LRT7 4th level

pde magkaiba ang level ng platform ng lines
i.e. LRT1 3rd level MRT3 & LRT7 4th level

pwede yun pero kahit na.... sa dami ng taong dadaan dito....
ang yung mga taong pupunta sa 2 mall sigurado ako ito ang gagamitin nila... pero pwede din...

baka naman maging substandard yan hehe=)

Actually tinatarantado lang tayo ng media, mga gustong umambisyon pulitikal, at kung sinu sino pa. Di hamak, mas magaling naman sa kanila ang kasalukuyang administrasyon. :)

Ganyan talaga kapag magaling ang administrasyon, maraming inggit. :lol::lol:

whatever office is implementing this project is just like a "headless chicken running around in circle". hindi alam ko ano gustong gawin. :lol::lol:

Ganyan talaga kapag magaling ang administrasyon, maraming inggit. :lol::lol:


sus kahit nmn cnung nakaupo eh sure na un na may maninira sakanila never pa qng nakakita ng presedente na ndi nagkaroon ng issue.... kayo ba may nakita na kau?? :lol:

i agree..

those squatters will surely be an "eyesore" for the Grand Central Terminal..

and i'm wondering why Kabayan is suddenly trying to change the plans for the Grand Central Terminal..

i have a bad feeling about this... :ohno::ohno:

Where's the NHA property anyway? Maybe they're gonna use the station as an excuse to evict them.

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/adverg/GCTScheme-A-1.jpg
I just want to share also my proposal design concept for this Grand Central Terminal. Sorry this is just a fast sketch drawing (presentation not nice) just to share only what's in my mind for this terminal. I got 3 schemes that I come out for my design idea., thanks....

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/adverg/GCTScheme-B-1.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/adverg/GCTScheme-C-1.jpg

@adverg

the third concept seems iffy. there's no space for the "legs" on EDSA.

^^I'm not sure about the space there, if there is, I like this "calatrava" effect design.

Monumento station digging has commenced for its foundations. They really intend to build another platform here.

pwede yun pero kahit na.... sa dami ng taong dadaan dito....
ang yung mga taong pupunta sa 2 mall sigurado ako ito ang gagamitin nila... pero pwede din...

baka naman maging substandard yan hehe=)

hindi naman... basta maayos yung structure at yung layout from concourse
area hanggang sa platform (yung hindi malilito mga tao kung saan pupunta)

Monumento station digging has commenced for its foundations. They really intend to build another platform here.

Ibig sabihin ba nyan walkway lang ang linkage mula sa LRT1 papuntang LRT1 extension?:ohno:

^^
time consuming naman para sa mga passengers kung ganun...
lilipat pa ng station

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/adverg/GCTScheme-C-1.jpg

c looks good !

Where's the NHA property anyway? Maybe they're gonna use the station as an excuse to evict them.

NHA property is beside the squatters area...

arki ka din pu ba?

nope... visual merchandiser ako... :D

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv357/yhuan07/fwqefwqe.jpg

Sino ba ang mayari sa squatter area pivate or government? The government should consider it as major train yard sa tatlong line since it subsized them. That will be on the ground level. On the second level it will be a park/garage and housing buildings owned by the governemnt and managed by Housing Authority.The rent of the government housing unit is flexible and base sa salary/paystabs. Mahirap mang daya mayroon pupunta sa trabaho sa prospective tenants kapag tunay ba ang sahud niya. About the security mayroon police station sa isa sa ground floor wing. Kapag wala trabaho bigyan minial jobs.

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?96168

http://www.nycsubway.org/cars/yards_pitkin.html

This particular location, there are four buildings total two more across the two shown. The small building in the middle is the tower which control the track switches, crewroom & lounge and relay room. I work in this location(Pitkin Yard) temporarily for a week only.

^^
time consuming naman para sa mga passengers kung ganun...
lilipat pa ng station

At malayo pa lalakarin mo. Sana naman ay linkage talaga ng tren di lang walkway

^^from what I understand, the extension will utilize the same trains of the existing LRT line 1 so there is no need to transfer to another station; the same trains will run through the rails of the line extension.

Ibig sabihin ba nyan walkway lang ang linkage mula sa LRT1 papuntang LRT1 extension?:ohno:

pangit naman nun kung walkway lang magiging linkage ng LRT1 at MRT:bash::bash:

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv357/yhuan07/fwqefwqe.jpg



T_T yung sa annex nlng sana... para sobrang lapit lng samin hehe

Ibig sabihin ba nyan walkway lang ang linkage mula sa LRT1 papuntang LRT1 extension?:ohno:

akala ko ba LRT 1 ang ie-extend, ibig sabihin nyan, MRT3 ang ie-extend?

^^from what I understand, the extension will utilize the same trains of the existing LRT line 1 so there is no need to transfer to another station; the same trains will run through the rails of the line extension.

Yes, ganyan talaga dapat d ba?

Rather than a walkway, I think they're utilizing another platform for transfer.

pangit naman nun kung walkway lang magiging linkage ng LRT1 at MRT:bash::bash:

Nung umpisa kasi, parallel ng konti ang LRT-1 Extension sa North Avenue station ng MRT-3 on the side of TriNoma. Super lapit dapat sana ng Stations until MRT-7 can and whoever proposed; interfered with the Grand Central Terminal.

Sino ba ang mayari sa squatter area pivate or government?


The National Housing Authority OWNS the land/squatters in the area. For 50 years walang nagawa ang NHA sa land na yan until QC decided on the CBD masterplan. Now, hindi mapaalis ang mga squatters dyan kasi under the law, i think, i'm not sure, parang, all squatters na nasa govt land na nag settle na BEFORE 1990 ay hindi pwede alisin, although karamihan/98% ng informal settlers ay pwedeng paalisin, andun parin sila because of their "special means". :lol:

^^ Wala. Di pwede yang law law na yan!!! Paalisin ang dapat paalisin!!! :mad:

After reading this, para sa akin. Mas maganda dun sa NHA land itayo ang Grand Central kaysa sa ibabaw ng already polluted EDSA. Unless gusto nyo ang estayon ay naglilimahid sa dumi pagnakatayo sa ibabaw ng EDSA...

Alisin lang un walang kwentang squatters nayan and make it a parking lot with mini parks and restaurants. :banana:

^^

yep, mas ok nga siguro kung sa NHA kasi mukhang malaki yung station na yon. di sisikip or papangit yung part ng EDSA kung san sha originally planned.

^^ same page with you guys.

didilim lang ang EDSA and for sure iitim lang sya sa pollusyon. magandang location ang sa NHA.

Sana ang mga train stations ng LRT-MRT ay maglagay ng ganito:
http://dvice.com/pics/hong_kong_subway.JPG

In short, harangan ang access sa riles pag wala pa un tren via automatic doors. At para dun sa mga nagbabalak mag suicide sa riles ay hinde makababa ng riles..

Also, put glass panels along the open windows of the train stations and just aircondition the entire station parang subway ng HK! :banana:

Sana ang mga train stations ng LRT-MRT ay maglagay ng ganito:
http://dvice.com/pics/hong_kong_subway.JPG


Tapos gusto ko tadtad ng Gilette Blade/Labaha yung pinto, para pag may nagtangkang pigilan ang pagsara ng pinto (para makahabol) eh magtanda.

Also, perfect talaga sa NHA property. Pag nakita ng mga tao ang pangit na view duun mas malaki chance na paalisin mga squatters dun.

1. EDSA wont be that dark lol.
2. The planned interchange in EDSA/North/West/Mindanao Avenues can materialize.
3. That area will not be that clogged of traffic.
4. Para tumigil na ang SM sa kanilang pag-higop ng tao sa mall nila :lol:

^^I haven't try that yet. Sa LRT 1 ako lagi kasi bumibili ng SVC.

pwde gamitin ang lrt 2 sa lrt 1 na stored value.. ganun gawain ko eh..hehee

Proposed GRAND CENTRAL STATION
latest design proposal...

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv357/yhuan07/fwQwqf.jpg
site development plan

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv357/yhuan07/vdvsv.jpg
front elevation

PERSPECTIVES
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site perspective
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv357/yhuan07/dqwfdqw.jpg
suggestion lang pu...

next... design proposal for bagong bario and balintawak station.:cheers:

nice concept bro!.. :lol: with all the glass and cladding.. hope it had resemblance a little bit with the future stations of the north extension kahit konti lang..hehe pero good ..nice..
kaw gumawa? export mo na sa MAx or Artlantis.. gnda nyan irender..haha

http://www.gmanews.tv/story/164127/RP-defers-construction-of-grand-central-terminal

RP defers construction of grand central terminal
CHERYL M. ARCIBAL, GMANews.TV
06/04/2009 | 09:58 PM
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MANILA, Philippines - The Philippines has deferred construction of a grand central terminal that will connect the capital’s three train systems.

The deferral was made after Vice President Noli de Castro, who is also chairman of the National Housing Agency (NHA), proposed to locate the facility at the vacant NHA property beside Trinoma, Socioeconomic Planning Secretary Ralph Recto said.

Before de Castro’s proposal, the terminal – called the Metro Manila Integrated Rail Terminal (MMIRT) – was originally planned to be put up at the SM City Annex mall in Quezon City.

Trinoma is a Quezon City mall owned and managed by Ayala Land Inc., the Philippines’ largest real estate company.

Meanwhile, the SM City Annex is owned and operated by SM Prime Holdings, Inc., controlled by the Sy family, the Philippines’ richest family.

“I think it is the most pragmatic location for the Central Terminal. But of course, the DOTC will have to decide on it," said Recto, who is also National Economic and Development Authority (NEDA) director general.

Recto made this remark after meeting with Ayala Land president Antonino Aquino.

The DOTC had originally designed the grand central terminal, which will connect MRT 3, MRT 7 and the LRT North Extension, to be located in front of SM City.

The facility, which may cost P1.5 billion, will connect MRT 3, which runs from Pasay to Quezon City; LRT 1, which stretches from Monumento to Baclaran; and MRT 7, which will span Commonwealth Avenue to Bulacan.

LRT1 and MRT 3 will soon be connected, allowing commuters to travel from Pasay to Caloocan City.

Since SM is expected to benefit by locating the terminal within its mall, the government has hoped it will pay for at least half of the facility’s construction costs.

The SM Group has yet to issue a decision about the matter.

Like the SM Group, Ayala Land has yet to indicate if it is willing to spend for a portion of the project, Recto said.

"Government will be looking at the alternative location because it’s near both Trinoma and SM. It will satisfy both malls and be profitable for the NHA. In the end, you'll have a better grand central terminal," Recto said.

But NEDA sources said that changing the facility’s original location would require more time which the project does not have.

If approved, the change would delay the project by another two to four months.

No official estimate of the additional cost is available, the NEDA official added. - GMANews.TV

sana hindi ma pending ang project na ito.. baka in the end maging MRT style na iiklian at ssimplehan nlng ang design ng susunod na administration.. sana GMA decide kana kung itutuloy mo itong terminal..

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa18/cq40/gctplanmini.jpg
Feasible din pala sa NHA property. :cheers:

Wala pa tayo LRT-5 (Light PNR), LRT-6 (LRT-1 South), MRT-7 (SMNoE to Bulacan) at MRT-8 (NAIA-NorthRail Underground), MRT-9 (MMla Loop Underground) pa kaya, saka na ang MRT-9 I'm sure in the future plans would eventually change for it. LRT-4 is shelved.

^^
may panlaban din pala ang trinoma (ayala corp) eh.. hehe kaya lang masyado ng mdilim at masikip sa north ave in what i see..

After reading this, para sa akin. Mas maganda dun sa NHA land itayo ang Grand Central kaysa sa ibabaw ng already polluted EDSA. Unless gusto nyo ang estayon ay naglilimahid sa dumi pagnakatayo sa ibabaw ng EDSA...

Alisin lang un walang kwentang squatters nayan and make it a parking lot with mini parks and restaurants. :banana:

pero look at north avenue station ng MRT ...parang naging spur line na lang.. mejo ang sagwa ata.. naka - y sya..

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa18/cq40/gctplanmini.jpg

mas makakatipid tayo pag nakalapag sa lupa ang grand terminal station. ang gawin na lang sa MRT eh gibain na lang ang extended part sa trinoma at ilipat ang station sa NHA lot. mas marami kasing magagawa at matitipid kapag sa NHA lot at grand terminal station. mas feasible :)

Maybe the authorities should just extend their operating hours instead of the full 24 hours. I'm pretty sure since most everybody else are sleeping between the hours of 2 to atleast 5 am, there are very few commuters between those hours. And then Saturday and Sundays should have different hours as well.

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa18/cq40/gctplanmini.jpg

mas makakatipid tayo pag nakalapag sa lupa ang grand terminal station. ang gawin na lang sa MRT eh gibain na lang ang extended part sa trinoma at ilipat ang station sa NHA lot. mas marami kasing magagawa at matitipid kapag sa NHA lot at grand terminal station. mas feasible :)

Paano yuong mga establishments na naanduon na at saan mo padadaanin ang mga motorized vehicles? Mahal bilihin ang propertries na may mga business establishments na, hindi ka rin makakatipid duon.

Friday, June 05, 2009


Ayala, SM groups tussle
over MRT grand terminal

By Darwin G. Amojela,r Senior Reporter

THE National Economic and Development Authority (NEDA) Board has deferred the approval of the construction of the Grand Central Terminal for the three mass rail transits (MRT) near SM North EDSA as a rival mall operator lobbied to relocate the station close to its area.

Socioeconomic Planning Secretary and NEDA Director-General Ralph Recto said the Department of Transportation and Communications (DOTC) suspended the presentation of the project before the NEDA Board, which President Arroyo chairs.

Recto said Vice President Noli de Castro has proposed to the transport department the transfer of the planned Metro Manila Integrated Rail Terminal (MMIRT) to the empty National Housing Authority (NHA) property near TriNoma Mall, operated by Ayala Land Inc. (ALI).

Earlier, the NEDA Cabinet Committee approved the P777.6 million MMIRT project to be constructed in front of SM North Edsa Annex.

The MMIRT aims to provide a common terminal for easy passenger transfer between Metro Rail Transit Line 3 (MRT 3) and Line 7 (MRT 7), as well as the Light Rail Transit Line 1 (LRT 1), which is being extended from its Monumento terminal.

At the Vice President’s instance, Recto met with Antonio Aquino, ALI president, to discuss the proposal.

Recto told reporters after the closed-door meeting on Wednesday that ALI, however, did not give any indication whether it is willing to spend for a portion of the project.

“Ayala Land did not give any indication to that effect. But, clearly, government will be looking at the alternative location because its near both TriNoma and SM. It will satisfy both malls and be profitable for the NHA. In the end, you’ll have a better Grand Central Terminal,” the NEDA chief said.

Recto said the Vice President’s proposal “is the most pragmatic location for the [Grand] Central Terminal. It is just at the corner of EDSA. But of course, the DOTC will have to decide on it.”

Earlier, the government was courting the SM group to infuse capital into the construction of an elevated grand terminal that would be walking distance to commuters of all lines situated near the intersection of EDSA, North Avenue and West Avenue.

Changing the approved location of the MMIRT, another official of NEDA said, would mean another two to four months of project delay.

The common terminal has a target completion date of May 2010 for the viaduct and expected revenue operation by August 2010. The LRT 1 North Extension Project has an original four stations—Monumento, Balintawak, Rosevelt and North Avenue.

The Balintawak station will provide modal interchange with bus and jeepney services entering Metro Manila from the north via the North Luzon Expressway.

Once the extension is complete, the LRT 1 is expected to serve about 800,000 to 1 million passengers.

The LRT 1 North Extension Pro ject, which aims to close the EDSA Loop, will need three additional stations from the existing Monumento Station and ending at the North Avenue Station of MRT 3.

http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2009/june/05/yehey/business/20090605bus9.html

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1. No sign of Bagong Barrio?
2. I like the tug-of-war of huge companies like SM and Ayala, because we, the commuters/general public will always be the winners in the end. :lol: [i.e. sites in QC, Makati, Taguig, Pampanga & Cebu)
3. They removed the LRT-4/MRT-9 from the picture which eases the problem.
4. The NHA location is more feasible when it comes to longterm planning.

Paano yuong mga establishments na naanduon na at saan mo padadaanin ang mga motorized vehicles? Mahal bilihin ang propertries na may mga business establishments na, hindi ka rin makakatipid duon.

based sa picture ang madadaanan lang MRT if gawin sa NHA lot ang grand central terminal eh yung mga squatter.

Given that some people support that audacity that Ayala is proposing to screw the commuters with their greed, perhaps this diagram will clear things up as some people are under the mistaken impression that MRT3 will be extended to meet up with the other lines if the Grand Central Station is located at that NHA lot...

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n122/queetz9/Miscellaneous/AyalaConspiracy.jpg

Bottom line, if Ayala gets his way, there will be no MRT3 extension to a Grand Central Station. They are already reaping the benefits of the MRT3 North Avenue Station but we have seen photos again and again how inadequate and crappy that station is to the public.

Its imperative that the Grand Central Station is build as originally intended, which is to provide a central location for ALL THREE LINES to converge. Remember, this project is being built for one sole purpose...convenience for the commuters. Let us not forget that.

http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2009/june/05/yehey/business/20090605bus9.html

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1. No sign of Bagong Barrio?
2. I like the tug-of-war of huge companies like SM and Ayala, because we, the commuters/general public will always be the winners in the end. :lol: [i.e. sites in QC, Makati, Taguig, Pampanga & Cebu)
3. They removed the LRT-4/MRT-9 from the picture which eases the problem.
4. The NHA location is more feasible when it comes to longterm planning.

Bagong Barrio is one of the stations in the revised Grand Central Terminal and delay in it will also delay this station. For now, the land which will be used for the station is still untouched.

Kung ako lang ang masusunod..nang matapos na.
(sketches 5 mins)
http://i41.tinypic.com/2llh6x5.jpg

Given that some people support that audacity that Ayala is proposing to screw the commuters with their greed, perhaps this diagram will clear things up as some people are under the mistaken impression that MRT3 will be extended to meet up with the other lines if the Grand Central Station is located at that NHA lot...

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n122/queetz9/Miscellaneous/AyalaConspiracy.jpg

Bottom line, if Ayala gets his way, there will be no MRT3 extension to a Grand Central Station. They are already reaping the benefits of the MRT3 North Avenue Station but we have seen photos again and again how inadequate and crappy that station is to the public.

Its imperative that the Grand Central Station is build as originally intended, which is to provide a central location for ALL THREE LINES to converge. Remember, this project is being built for one sole purpose...convenience for the commuters. Let us not forget that.
^^
tama.. tska napaka sharp curve ng nha area kung duon ang lrt ilalagay sa nha compound.. didilim ang north ave na wla ng sunlight.. ung north ave ng mrt3 ano yan spur line? ang mganda tlga sa annex.. un tlga ang nararapat. kasya naman ang 3 lines sa span ng edsa sa portion na un eh..

kung sa harap naman ng trinoma, aba, eh di balewala ang pag renovate ng SM,kasi matatakpan ung facade nla ng central station.. kapangit..

Kung ako lang ang masusunod..nang matapos na.
(sketches 5 mins)
http://i41.tinypic.com/2llh6x5.jpg

pwde... pero alam mo ang Ayala.tuso..

hanggat hindi nagddecision at nagsasalita ang lrta sa public tungkol sa bagong barrio at central terminal puro bali baliko mga reports ng media..hayy

Just a thought - Regardless of how the design is, the name "Grand Central Terminal" is a misnomer. It implies there is actually a railway (not just a metro) network operating.

For me, the NHA lot is stil the better choice. Mukha bang maliit? If so, take back the land from the useless squatters that took over the large portion of the NHA's lot and you will have a big span of land. Perfect for the "Grand" Central station.

I don't want the central station be built in the already congested EDSA and i don't want EDSA to loose another 2 lanes due to the huge pylons needed to make the station above ground. We need to learn our mistake from what MRT3 did to EDSA.

change topic naman.. kakabored na eh eto naman tyo sa pistahan
LRT1-LRT2 bridge
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/kaelthas18/PISTA.jpg

change topic naman.. kakabored na eh eto naman tyo sa pistahan
LRT1-LRT2 bridge
<<removed pic>>

OT:Naki-fiesta ka ba? :lol::lol:

Anu bang LRT ang dadaan sa Espanya? Hanggang dyan ba ang terminal nya?

Kung ako lang ang masusunod..nang matapos na.
(sketches 5 mins)
http://i41.tinypic.com/2llh6x5.jpg

This was the original plan of the LRT1 North Extension anyway, prior to the proposed Grand Central Station. But note that since MRT3 North Ave and LRT1 North Ave are separate, people will have to walk far. The Grand Central Station simply makes sense for the commuters since its in one building only, and also includes LRT7. The transfer point is much shorter, and maximizes the accessibility of the three lines, plus MRT9 if it ever gets built someday.

And since the Grand Central Station was proposed, the biggest looser was Ayala as it would diminish the role of that over crowded MRT3 North Ave terminus that has direct access to Trinoma. So now they are trying to sabotage something that makes sense to the public for their own personal gain. :ohno:

For me, the NHA lot is stil the better choice. Mukha bang maliit? If so, take back the land from the useless squatters that took over the large portion of the NHA's lot and you will have a big span of land. Perfect for the "Grand" Central station.

I don't want the central station be built in the already congested EDSA and i don't want EDSA to loose another 2 lanes due to the huge pylons needed to make the station above ground. We need to learn our mistake from what MRT3 did to EDSA.

MRT3 was the best thing that happened to EDSA and if sacrificing two lanes, assuming that would happen, is what it takes to have a centralized transfer point for three (and later four) rapid transit lines, then so be it. You can easily ditch the car and use our train network anyway if all lines are built as envisioned, and integrated properly...

I just want to ask anyone, was this grand central terminal only caters the mrt/lrt transport, does not include buses terminal route along caloocan, to fairview and baclaran. If this caters with bus transport also with some retails and food stalls inside like here in Malaysia the central station, that space allocated in Edsa is not advisable since this is a grand central terminal, there must be a very large area for this and must anticipate parking space. Some of smart car owner nowadays due to economic crisis (in other countries), they just go to the nearest mrt station and park their car there and just take the mrt to their offices to save on fuel expenses. For what I observed parang wala pa tayong mrt/lrt stations with alloted large parking space.

LRT Line 1 South Extension... Planned since 1996 and up to now nothing has started!!! :mad2: :mad2: :mad2:

change topic naman.. kakabored na eh eto naman tyo sa pistahan
LRT1-LRT2 bridge
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/kaelthas18/PISTA.jpg

Ano bayan...Sobrang dumi...:ohno:

For me, the NHA lot is stil the better choice. Mukha bang maliit? If so, take back the land from the useless squatters that took over the large portion of the NHA's lot and you will have a big span of land. Perfect for the "Grand" Central station.

Hehehe napaka-importante pala talaga ng NHA sa bawat riles ng Pilipinas :lol:.

I just want to ask anyone, was this grand central terminal only caters the mrt/lrt transport, does not include buses terminal route along caloocan, to fairview and baclaran. If this caters with bus transport also with some retails and food stalls inside like here in Malaysia the central station, that space allocated in Edsa is not advisable since this is a grand central terminal, there must be a very large area for this and must anticipate parking space. Some of smart car owner nowadays due to economic crisis (in other countries), they just go to the nearest mrt station and park their car there and just take the mrt to their offices to save on fuel expenses. For what I observed parang wala pa tayong mrt/lrt stations with alloted large parking space.

^^May ginawa nang ganyan sa Manila. Yung "Park n Ride" dyan sa Lawton, malapit sa central terminal ng LRT. Pero parang wala yatang gumagamit. Karamihan nakikita ko doon yung mga FX at bus na may byaheng probinsya. May mga food stalls din sya sa gound floor. Pati office ng PAG-IBIG nandoon din.

Hehehe napaka-importante pala talaga ng NHA sa bawat riles ng Pilipinas :lol:.

Buti na lang di naging NHA property ang PNR..:lol::lol:
Dapat siguro may NHA Thread din dito.. hehehe...

LRT Line 1 South Extension... Planned since 1996 and up to now nothing has started!!! :mad2: :mad2: :mad2:

Even the best laid plans do get delayed (for decades), changed (downsized), or scrapped (it was nothing but a lofty dream) sometimes (most of the time in the Philippines). :lol:

tsk tsk isang coach ng MRT umusok...

http://www.gmanews.tv/video/42918/Isang-coach-ng-tren-ng-MRT-3-umusok-sa-bahagi-ng-Kamuning-Cuabo-station-sa-QC

Sana ang mga train stations ng LRT-MRT ay maglagay ng ganito:
http://dvice.com/pics/hong_kong_subway.JPG

In short, harangan ang access sa riles pag wala pa un tren via automatic doors. At para dun sa mga nagbabalak mag suicide sa riles ay hinde makababa ng riles..

Also, put glass panels along the open windows of the train stations and just aircondition the entire station parang subway ng HK! :banana:

Don't count on it for elevated stations. It's too expensive to retrofit. It may make sense though for underground stations.

Ano bayan...Sobrang dumi...:ohno:

dapat tinanggal na rin ang mga banderitas na yan...paint the structures.

‘MRT train’s midnight run better, safer’


By Riza T. Olchondra
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 01:01:00 06/06/2009

Filed Under: Road Transport, Government


MANILA, Philippines—Citing safety reasons, a former official of the company that built the Metro Rail Transit (MRT) system supported the government’s decision to run the trains until midnight instead of 24 hours.

Representative Paul Daza of the 1st district of Northern Samar said in an interview that MRT would do well to give its maintenance crew enough time to conduct inspections and minor repairs.

“The intention to provide safe and reliable transit for graveyard shift workers is good but it cannot be through MRT because like all trains systems in the world there must be enough time for periodic maintenance. And this is usually done at night,” Daza said.

“Without the inspections, minor damage along the tracks or overhead wires may result in major accidents,” he said.

Daza was the spokesman of MRT Corp. (MRTC) while it was constructing the overhead train system along Edsa.

“There are not that many passengers after 12 midnight anyway, and if the trains keep running the electricity bill alone will be a serious financial burden to the government,” Daza said.

The congressman then called on industries with graveyard shift workers, including the BPO (business process outsourcing) sector, to seek government assistance for alternative transportation arrangements.

The congressman then called on industries with graveyard shift workers, including the BPO (business process outsourcing) sector, to seek government assistance for alternative transportation arrangements.

Like, bus drivers from hell, jeepney drivers from hell and mga kampon ni Satanas lingering while waiting for the next victim to come? :sly: Hahahaha!!! :hahano:

The difficulty of riding on graveyard...is like really putting your limb on the graveyard literally.

tsk tsk isang coach ng MRT umusok...

http://www.gmanews.tv/video/42918/Isang-coach-ng-tren-ng-MRT-3-umusok-sa-bahagi-ng-Kamuning-Cuabo-station-sa-QC

^^Baka naman gawin pa nilang dahilan yan dahil nag 24hrs operation ang tren. Nangyari na rin dati yan. Nakita ko dati ang ganyan scenario sa Taft Station. May nakaparadang tren doon at bukas lahat ng pintuan at bintana ng tren at umuusok sya ng maitim na nang gagaling sa may bubungan.

^^ At kelan pa naging steam-driven ang mga MRT trains?

‘MRT train’s midnight run better, safer’


By Riza T. Olchondra
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 01:01:00 06/06/2009

Filed Under: Road Transport, Government



Darn. The title sounded Victory Liner-ish. :lol: :bash:

LRT Line 1 South Extension... Planned since 1996 and up to now nothing has started!!! :mad2: :mad2: :mad2:
Our government doesn't prioritize the people in the south of metro, including us in Cavite. :)

Our government doesn't prioritize the people in the south of metro, including us in Cavite. :)

Right of Way acquisition is already in full swing. Once completed, civil works will start immediately. :)

Right of Way acquisition is already in full swing. Once completed, civil works will start immediately. :)

May mga bagong LRV bang bibilhin para sa project na yan?

dapat ma extend na talaga ang lrt1 up to cavite...kung pwede lang hanggang aguinaldo shrine...para maging pasyalan yun ng tourists..

Right of Way acquisition is already in full swing. Once completed, civil works will start immediately. :)

Wow! I can't believe it took more than a decade to have that done..:sleepy:

^It is not yet done brother... says its only in "full swing". A project of this magnitude could always "swing" in opposite direction and/or halt to a complete stop ya know! (i.e. elections, change in leadership, etc.)

So this could take longer (longer than the Americans nor Japanese held the PI).

:lol:

Pile boring has commenced on the Monumento circle.

I just want to ask anyone, was this grand central terminal only caters the mrt/lrt transport, does not include buses terminal route along caloocan, to fairview and baclaran. If this caters with bus transport also with some retails and food stalls inside like here in Malaysia the central station, that space allocated in Edsa is not advisable since this is a grand central terminal, there must be a very large area for this and must anticipate parking space. Some of smart car owner nowadays due to economic crisis (in other countries), they just go to the nearest mrt station and park their car there and just take the mrt to their offices to save on fuel expenses. For what I observed parang wala pa tayong mrt/lrt stations with alloted large parking space.I hope they will also intrgrate bus stations so it will be easier to transfer from one mode of transport from the other.

Hehehe napaka-importante pala talaga ng NHA sa bawat riles ng Pilipinas :lol:.Pansin ko rin. From demolition, land acquisition to railway station. :lol:

^^May ginawa nang ganyan sa Manila. Yung "Park n Ride" dyan sa Lawton, malapit sa central terminal ng LRT. Pero parang wala yatang gumagamit. Karamihan nakikita ko doon yung mga FX at bus na may byaheng probinsya. May mga food stalls din sya sa gound floor. Pati office ng PAG-IBIG nandoon din.Ibs kasi yun. Bus station yun for provincial buses. dapat gawin yung for metro use lang and provincial buses should be outside or in the outskirts of MM because they add to the already congested situation of MM roads. :ohno:

^^ At kelan pa naging steam-driven ang mga MRT trains?:lol: ANo bang nangyari at umusok?

Ito ang proposal ko (actually, pareho lang nung old proposal). Dapat nasa intersection na lang ng EDSA, North Ave and West Ave. I think that's the most efficient way to connect all current and future railways in MM. You could also include the integration of a large bus station as well.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3306/3599853779_49ecb74790_o.jpg

Legend:
brown: Grand Central Terminal
blue: MRT3
yellow: LRT1
green: MRT7
red: MRT9 or MRT4 (what's the difference, anyway?)
pink: current MMDA bus terminal leading to another larger bus terminal south of Trinoma, near the squatter's area (what is it called?)

I just want to ask anyone, was this grand central terminal only caters the mrt/lrt transport, does not include buses terminal route along caloocan, to fairview and baclaran. If this caters with bus transport also with some retails and food stalls inside like here in Malaysia the central station, that space allocated in Edsa is not advisable since this is a grand central terminal, there must be a very large area for this and must anticipate parking space. Some of smart car owner nowadays due to economic crisis (in other countries), they just go to the nearest mrt station and park their car there and just take the mrt to their offices to save on fuel expenses. For what I observed parang wala pa tayong mrt/lrt stations with alloted large parking space.

Again, the purpose of this particular Grand Central Station is to provide a transfer point for three lines. As for parking, they can park at SM. Edsa Shangrila allows MRT3 commuters to park at their mall, no reason why SM North won't.

For buses, I think Balintawak will provide some bus connections, though it was also envisioned that the squatters area near Trinoma would be the hub for buses that already use Cubao as their hub. If that is the case, it would be too inconvenient anyway even if you put the Grand Central station at that NHA lot as it will still be far.

Repeat, the primary objective of the Grand Central Station is to provide a transfer point for the rail lines, all other things, including profit for malls and transfer points for other modes of transportation must come secondary. Any deviation away from the location from the one beside SM Annex will nullify that primary objective as it would result in the non-extension of MRT3, thus a lengthy walk for passengers transferring from one rail line to another, and removes all hope of making MRT3 North Ave station being a non-terminus station...

:lol: ANo bang nangyari at umusok?



Nag overheat yata yung aircon.

naalala ko dati yung nasakyan ko sa MRT
lahat kami pinababa sa cubao station, dahil may technical problem yung
train (napansin ko din yun habang nasa q.ave kasi unusual yung acceleration
ambilis); sobrang dami tuloy namin sa platform (cubao ba naman) at sobrang
sikip sa train

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3306/3599853779_49ecb74790_o.jpg

Legend:
brown: Grand Central Terminal
blue: MRT3
yellow: LRT1
green: MRT7
red: MRT9 or MRT4 (what's the difference, anyway?)
pink: current MMDA bus terminal leading to another larger bus terminal south of Trinoma, near the squatter's area (what is it called?)

Yan ang pinaka effective na plan kaya lang, pag yan ang ginamit, wala nang option para mag tayo ng flyovers, may plan kasi para dun, so if ever dumami sasakyan sa area, wala nang choice. Traffic na.

Trinoma has already promoted parking your car at their parking facilities for a whole-day charge of Php 45. If ever the proposed Grand Central Terminal would be built at the SM Annex SM has more than enough parking space that can be used much like what you say. And I believe it won't be a problem having the parking facilities full since the MRT's used the most during weekdays, and malls aren't as packed during weekdays (well, except during non-sale weekdays :P)

I just want to ask anyone, was this grand central terminal only caters the mrt/lrt transport, does not include buses terminal route along caloocan, to fairview and baclaran. If this caters with bus transport also with some retails and food stalls inside like here in Malaysia the central station, that space allocated in Edsa is not advisable since this is a grand central terminal, there must be a very large area for this and must anticipate parking space. Some of smart car owner nowadays due to economic crisis (in other countries), they just go to the nearest mrt station and park their car there and just take the mrt to their offices to save on fuel expenses. For what I observed parang wala pa tayong mrt/lrt stations with alloted large parking space.

I think so. A couple of threads back sabi bibili ng additional LRVs, if I'm correct.

May mga bagong LRV bang bibilhin para sa project na yan?

Given that some people support that audacity that Ayala is proposing to screw the commuters with their greed, perhaps this diagram will clear things up as some people are under the mistaken impression that MRT3 will be extended to meet up with the other lines if the Grand Central Station is located at that NHA lot...

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n122/queetz9/Miscellaneous/AyalaConspiracy.jpg

Bottom line, if Ayala gets his way, there will be no MRT3 extension to a Grand Central Station. They are already reaping the benefits of the MRT3 North Avenue Station but we have seen photos again and again how inadequate and crappy that station is to the public.

Its imperative that the Grand Central Station is build as originally intended, which is to provide a central location for ALL THREE LINES to converge. Remember, this project is being built for one sole purpose...convenience for the commuters. Let us not forget that.

In short, pahirapan. :mad:

Kung ako lang ang masusunod..nang matapos na.
(sketches 5 mins)
http://i41.tinypic.com/2llh6x5.jpg

Kaya nga Grand Central Station kasi nga isang Station para sa 3 magkaibang lines of light rail.

For me, the NHA lot is stil the better choice. Mukha bang maliit? If so, take back the land from the useless squatters that took over the large portion of the NHA's lot and you will have a big span of land. Perfect for the "Grand" Central station.

I don't want the central station be built in the already congested EDSA and i don't want EDSA to loose another 2 lanes due to the huge pylons needed to make the station above ground. We need to learn our mistake from what MRT3 did to EDSA.

Its not small.. Its just so distant from accessible places like SM North and for those studying at the PCS.

I want it at SM Annex's front or as originally planned, sa intersection ng North Ave. at EDSA.

Kawawa naman yung mga manggagaling ng MRT7 kung maglalakad pa sila sa SM North.

Trinoma has MRT3 already. Alangan naman na halos magkalapit lang ang isang sub-station sa mismong GCS.

Kung gagawa lng flyover, kasama na i-plano ngayon na nasa drawing board ulit ang Extension. Or kung di apt ang flyover, underpass.

MRT3 was the best thing that happened to EDSA and if sacrificing two lanes, assuming that would happen, is what it takes to have a centralized transfer point for three (and later four) rapid transit lines, then so be it. You can easily ditch the car and use our train network anyway if all lines are built as envisioned, and integrated properly...

True. Nung nagkaroon ng 2008 global economic slowdown, halos half or 1/3 ng sumakay sa MRT ay may sasakyan.

Kung alam lang ng gobyerno kung gaano kaimportante ang mga ganitong modes of transpo, di na natin halos kailanagan pang bumili ng sasakyan.

And kung magkakaroon lang lahat ng drivers ng disiplina sa daan, wala naman dapat traffic e.

Kaya nga Grand Central Station kasi nga isang Station para sa 3 magkaibang lines of light rail.


:lol: :ohno:

look alot like one in Bangkok...:)

i just got the feeling that philippinos and Thais are really similar in some way...not only the way we look but the whole city structure and way of life..

:lol: :ohno:

And why? :? :tongue3::sleepy::sly:

look alot like one in Bangkok...:)

i just got the feeling that philippinos and Thais are really similar in some way...not only the way we look but the whole city structure and way of life..

Yep. But a different system runs in our MRT here.

But your city is more onto infrastructure. :)

In short, pahirapan. :mad:



Kaya nga Grand Central Station kasi nga isang Station para sa 3 magkaibang lines of light rail.



Its not small.. Its just so distant from accessible places like SM North and for those studying at the PCS.

I want it at SM Annex's front or as originally planned, sa intersection ng North Ave. at EDSA.

Kawawa naman yung mga manggagaling ng MRT7 kung maglalakad pa sila sa SM North.

Trinoma has MRT3 already. Alangan naman na halos magkalapit lang ang isang sub-station sa mismong GCS.

Kung gagawa lng flyover, kasama na i-plano ngayon na nasa drawing board ulit ang Extension. Or kung di apt ang flyover, underpass.



True. Nung nagkaroon ng 2008 global economic slowdown, halos half or 1/3 ng sumakay sa MRT ay may sasakyan.

Kung alam lang ng gobyerno kung gaano kaimportante ang mga ganitong modes of transpo, di na natin halos kailanagan pang bumili ng sasakyan.

And kung magkakaroon lang lahat ng drivers ng disiplina sa daan, wala naman dapat traffic e.

korek.. go uste!..hehe

Ask ko lang, bakit kaya tinawag na Grand Central yung area ng Monumento? (Ever Gotesco Grand Central?) May plano ba dati na gawing Grand Central station yung monumento area?

Ask ko lang, bakit kaya tinawag na Grand Central yung area ng Monumento? (Ever Gotesco Grand Central?) May plano ba dati na gawing Grand Central station yung monumento area?

Yes. It's supposed to be the area where LRT-1, MRT-3 and NorthRail Terminate and to converge in one station for easy commuter transfer, that is forever shelved (when the MRT-3 is no longer keen in finishing Phase-2, northern and southern expansion sana. :ohno:)

Passengers panic as MRT3 coach emits smoke
ShareThis06/07/2009 | 12:30 AM
http://www.gmanews.tv/largevideo/latest/42939/Passengers-panic-as-MRT3-coach-emits-smoke

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/4671/picturefyj.jpg

yan ang nakikita kong way para sa Grand Central Terminal :)

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/3309/mrttrainsmoking.jpg
picture coming from Philippine Star Newspaper..

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/3309/mrttrainsmoking.jpg
picture coming from Philippine Star Newspaper..

seriously this is bad , people can't just walk on the ramp , they are supposed to wait inside the train till the management solve the problem.

Kaso, mukhang napuno ng usok un loob ng tren. Tapos, mukha talagang tumirik na un tren..

nagpanic nadin yung mga tao kaya naglabas lahat. Sabi dun sa news report madami naiwan na personal belongings sa loob nung umusok na tren.